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Nov. 4, 2024 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show with Mike Hammond, Dr. Avery Jackson, Dr. Robi Ludwig, and Lisa Hill
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Special Guests Share Insights 00:07:30
Hello and welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show, coming to you from the village of Morningside, USA, nestled in the beautiful Ozark Mountains.
Today, our special guests are co-founder of Signal Relief, Mike Hammond, board-certified neurosurgeon and best-selling author of the book, The God Prescription, Dr. Avery Jackson, product developer, entrepreneur, and former trauma nurse, Lisa Hill, and nationally known psychotherapist and award-winning reporter, Dr. Robbie Ludwig.
Our co-host today is Reverend Mondo De La Vega.
And now, live from Gray Street at Morningside, USA, here's your host, Pastor Ricky Baker.
Hello, you're watching the PTL Television Network.
Today is an exciting day.
Friends, it's always a good day when the Lord wakes you up and you have another opportunity to either A, get right with him or B, serve him all the days of our lives.
It's a wonderful day.
Jacqueline is here with me.
This is Jacqueline Baker.
Jacqueline, how old are you?
Tell the people how old you are.
Four.
Four years old.
And what is your favorite thing?
This is a dangerous question because I didn't ask you before.
What's your favorite thing, Jacqueline?
Whatever that, yeah, yeah, there we go.
Being silly is your favorite thing.
And grandpa is not feeling good today.
He's a little bit under the weather, so he's working.
He did, what, I think, six broadcasts this week.
We worked him a lot this week.
He was a workhorse this week.
Listen, the miracle is that he had an interview scheduled with a documentary.
Yes.
And weeks prior to they said, oh, I don't know if I can do it.
Well, we got cardio miracle, and then we got the signal relief patch on him.
And then a few days later, he ended up doing about two hours interview without stopping.
And cognitive, that's a miracle because the stress.
Yet, going back to 35 years of experience, he spent two hours.
I said, I thought you weren't feeling good.
That's what he says.
That's right.
Once you get him going, it goes.
Grandpa, we were with him right before the show started, and he has a message.
What does he want you to tell everyone, Jaclyn?
He loves them.
He wants Jacqueline to say that he loves them.
He loves them.
That he loves them.
That's right, that he loves them.
This is Jaclyn Bel Baker.
I don't know where Miss Deborah is, but I'm going to send Miss Deborah.
Can I send Jacqueline off with you?
There we go.
Miss Deborah's wonderful.
Come on here.
Don't take your drink.
There you go.
We're going to take that.
You know, a lot of people, we get the letters, we get emails, and they always say we love seeing the family on the show.
It's funny because I was Jacqueline's age when Pastor Jim adopted me, four years old, and that's when he immediately introduced us to television.
I don't know what's in that thing or what it done.
Me neither.
That's what I'm saying.
We'll fix that.
But I was Jaclyn's age whenever we first started.
Wait a minute.
One thing about television is you can't just go buy that in that.
I'm just forget about it.
Whatever.
It's not God.
I don't know who it was or what it was, but we'll move on, my boy.
So we're going to talk about stress today.
Life is stressful.
Life is funny, but that was awesome.
Hey, Jim Baker's motto.
The reason I moved on so quick, Jim Baker's life motto is nothing can go wrong.
Hey, that was meant to happen somewhere.
We'll find out who that is later in the show.
If you're curious, his face is going to pop up.
That reminds me of an old quote.
An old preacher used to say.
He used to get up every morning on Sunday morning and say, this is the day that the Lord has made.
Don't mess it up.
Don't mess it up.
Yeah, seriously.
There we go.
We'll figure out what that is.
But hey, you know what?
We love this being the Jim Baker Family Show.
The reason that he rebranded and renamed it was because we love bringing our family in with this.
Friends, the message will never change.
We believe that Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven.
We believe in the fundamental rights that we have here as American citizens and as citizens of the kingdom of God as well.
Friends, this is a platform and a message where we do not compromise.
And that's what the PTL platform is all about.
It's no censorship.
And we love the fact that people can come and share their hearts.
Absolutely.
And talking about family, talking about health, talking about our faith is something that America really holds tight to their hearts.
But I want to tell you something.
On our worst day in America, America is still the greatest nation that has ever been.
I'm from a third world nation.
I understand what it is to live under dictatorship and leaders that really want to control you.
But here in America, when you can talk about your health freely and discuss, you know, some of the matters that are affecting us every single day, this is why we do this because we want to tell you that there is hope today.
And on today's program, we have some special guests that are going to talk about stress.
They're going to talk about the brain, but they're also going to talk about where you and I live.
And that is in a state of warfare constantly.
And I say that because everything in America is all about warfare.
We're dealing with this war.
We're dealing with that war.
Yet, at the end of the day, what makes everything is family.
That's right.
And I love seeing Jacqueline.
She's such a cutie.
Amen.
Yeah, she's our oldest child out of three children.
She gave me a thumbs up.
That's right.
And she's four years old.
We love Jacqueline.
But hey, today we have with us some special guest friends.
These are people who are not strangers to the PTL Television Network.
We have Michael Hammond with us here today.
You're the co-founder of Signal Relief.
That's right.
So let's get into a little bit about your family.
Where are you based out of and your children?
Let's talk about them for a minute.
So I have six kids.
All right.
My oldest is on a church mission in Brazil.
All right.
And then my second just went to college.
Amen.
And then I have three teenagers and then an eight-year-old.
So you're busy is what you're saying.
It's crazy.
Not only that, but you're also inventing new products.
You're fine-tuning the ones you've already created.
So you have a lot of time on your hands, I guess.
Tons.
Tons of time.
But we live over by Jackson, Wyoming, in that area, up in the Yellowstone area.
And it's a lot of fun.
We need to have you guys come out.
We'll have it.
We'll come film and see the signal relief facilities as well.
That'd be awesome.
That'd be amazing.
We also have with us back again, Dr. Avery Jackson.
You're a board-certified neurosurgeon and best-selling author of a book called The God Prescription, which we dove into a little bit ago on a few episodes ago of the Jim Baker show with Pastor Jim.
The God Prescription.
If somebody wants to get that book, where could they go?
They can just go to the website, which is going to be thegodprescription.com.
Thegodprescription.com.
It's an honor to have you here.
And we have a good friend to the PTL Television Network.
I've said it here many times.
If you see something you love at the PTL Television Network, it's most likely because Lisa Hill brought it to us.
So Lisa, we want to thank you for that.
And Lisa, you were a trauma nurse for what, 25 years?
22 years.
22 years.
And then you do product development as well.
Isn't that correct?
Correct.
That's amazing.
And then we also have another Skype guest with us, Dr. Robbie Ludwig.
And she's a nationally known psychotherapist and award-winning reporter as well.
We're going to get into some conversation with her in a little bit.
But today we want to focus on America's health.
You know, there's essentially, Mondo, you said it perfectly.
There has really truly been a war on America's health, whether it be through our food institution, whether it be through pharmaceutical companies.
And what you have done, and I love this, is you've provided another alternative for people to find health, for people to find healing in their body, for people to find some pain relief.
Pain Relief Patch 00:10:19
Because, Mondo, I know you had a torn meniscus.
Is that what it was?
Torn meniscus, and then I tore my muscle in the back of my leg.
I'm falling apart.
I just want to say, I was waiting for some cool story on how it happened, too.
He came in.
He was, I mean, he was in a lot of pain.
I said, what happened?
I think you told me, you know, you were trying to race your son or something.
I was trying to teach my son how to take off faster, to run faster.
It didn't work out well.
It didn't work out for me.
It was working out very good for him.
But, you know, within 24 hours, I could not walk.
And they told me it's going to take about three to six months for this to heal.
And I said, I don't have three to six months.
I'm a father, full-time father, full-time husband, you know, and I work all the time.
I cannot afford to stay down.
And then I thought about, wait a minute, we always talk about the signal relief.
Why am I not using it?
I immediately went to my car, grabbed it, and put it in the back of my leg.
Within a few hours, I'm not kidding you, the inflammation started going down.
And I didn't understand signal relief at that moment.
All I knew was that I was able to drive my son to practice the next day, and the healing of the process started happening.
And I came back to the program, and I'm a champion for signal relief because I know it worked for me.
He really is.
You know, we want to introduce you to the signal relief.
I want you to watch this about the signal relief patch.
I don't know what's in that thing or what it does, but it works.
It really, really works.
Normally, when I get up, I have to hold on to something to get up.
It does feel better.
That's like a dream.
I haven't been able to do that on my shoulder for a long time.
Hi, I'm Steven, and I'm here to introduce you to a product that will change your life.
It's called the Signal Relief Patch.
Your body runs off of electricity a lot like a machine.
That's right, your body is electric.
Now, why is that important?
Because this electricity controls every aspect of your life.
Everything from moving your muscles to taste to touch.
These electrical signals also tell you when something is hurt, like your back, head, foot, shoulder, or knee.
But sometimes there's interference, kind of like static.
This makes the healing process take a really long time.
Enter the signal relief patch.
The signal relief patch is a super antenna that works off electrical fields like your body.
Meet Red and Tony, the creators of the patch.
Hi.
They originally developed communication technology for these guys.
Their technology made communication much clearer and more efficient.
That's right.
The same antennas that were used for our military are now used to help our bodies.
I know that that sounds a little strange, but take it from Red and Tony.
It really works.
Yep.
There are countless people just like you who will say the same thing.
It gave me my life back.
I've never felt better.
It's changed my life.
It's been created to give you that life back.
Grab a patch, put it on, watch it work.
So, Micah, we want to jump right into this.
Does the signal relief patch work to relieve pain in essentially anybody?
Can anybody use this patch or is there a demographic it has to be?
No, it works for everything.
In fact, our biggest weakness is that it worked for everything.
Yes.
It makes marketing.
And I mean, the Jovi patch is a perfect example.
It's the same exact thing as the signal relief patch.
No difference, except that we tell people it works for menstrual cramps.
So we narrowed the messaging down.
And it took off.
Yes.
Right?
Because people are like, oh, it'll work for that.
But the reality is it works for any kind of discomfort, actually.
Like you noticed in your knee, back, shoulders.
One of the weaknesses we had is, man, baseball players, pitchers.
Yes.
Usually when they pitch, they have to wait three days before their arm can pitch again because it get hurts.
Yes.
And when they use a patch, it's overnight.
And so because it takes the inflammation down, right?
Wow.
And so it's applicable for so many things.
And I think what's so cool about it is so many of us, especially as you get older, everything starts to hurt.
And you're popping aspirin and Advil like it's like candy, right?
Because you're just trying to get through every day.
And what I love about the signal patch is it works for things that normal medication doesn't seem to help people with.
So a lot of people have given up.
They're like, there's nothing I can do.
Like a phantom leg pain, right?
Like the soldiers.
Yes.
They lose a leg and they have $100,000 pump installed and it still hurts every day.
And you just think then there's nothing that can work.
But I mean, I love putting this on one of those guys that thinks there's nothing.
that can actually give them relief.
And they stick it on and in 10 seconds, there's tears coming down their eyes every single time.
And I'm not a doctor.
So I see the results and I'm like, we need to get this to the world.
But we've been praying for people that we could get on our team that could help us actually explain to the world why this works so well, right?
That Jesus says, if you pray and believe, all things are possible, right?
And we've been praying for an answer to that.
And that's actually Dr. Avery and Dr. Robbie.
They're two of the answers to those prayers that you have on the show right here today to help explain to you why it works so well.
But it's a game changer.
Amen.
And so affordable.
Dr. Avery, we're going to get into that.
I just want to say I have mine here in my back pocket.
Trust me, I'll tell you if I don't leave the house with it.
You can tell my mood probably.
But I've had this thing.
I want to ask you real quick just on this.
What is the shelf life on this?
Because I have had this thing in my pocket for probably about this one, probably about nine months or so, and it's still working just as good for me.
It will work till they wear out, which is well over a year, usually every day.
That's amazing.
Unless it's one of these, we have a newer one we just came out with that doesn't have quite the shelf life, but these original ones will last over a year.
That's amazing.
Dr. Avery, what is it about the signal relief patch?
Because I noticed this.
You know, I was one of those people who was taking, you know, your Tylenols, your Advils multiple times a day, trying to get relief for those weird spots in my back that I felt like nothing could relieve.
And I put this in my back pocket.
I just set it in my back pocket.
I wear it in whatever pair of pants that I'm wearing, and I get instantaneous relief to that entire area.
What is it that's happening to my brain to tell me that area is not hurting anymore?
So this is really cool, okay?
The way that God made us is that basically the small version and then the longer version, the small version is it's basically like a lightning rod that slows down your pain signaling to your brain, okay?
And it's the cool technology.
I love the fact that it has these nanocapacitors in it and the capacitors, the long answer is that your nerves are like these electric cables and they have a certain amount of electrical amplitude, right?
And so the patch, it actually kind of wicks some of that amplitude away and it's just enough so that your brain doesn't see the signaling of pain.
And it's really, what really got me about this was the fact that my wife and I have used it.
We put it on and within a couple of minutes, it's like pain went away.
We had some back pain and it was really, it was really amazing, number one.
But number two, to know that in terms of neuroscience, like it doesn't affect the motor.
So that was really intriguing to me to say it's so eloquent that it's able to decrease the amplitude of signal at the level of sensory nerve going to brain, but it doesn't affect the motor or anything else.
That's amazing.
Right.
So it's really, I mean, there's a lot of science going into capacitors and dielectrodes and all of that.
But basically, it really, really works.
And as a neurosurgeon, I'm so stoked about the science behind it.
So is this something that you would recommend to people who are coming through your clinics to say, hey, I'm dealing with pains.
I'm dealing with things that nothing else has been working for?
Totally give you an example.
So over the last couple of months, we transitioned to a new pain clinic.
So now here I am, a pain doc in a pain clinic.
Yes.
And like every single person fit the bill to get one of these because of the fact that it would make a difference.
I mean, whether it was knee pain, back pain, whether they had a major injury, whether they had an amputation.
And so it would work for everybody, right?
And so that's kind of different because people looked at me crazy because they thought, well, you're not providing any pain medications.
And I'm like, well, but if you don't need the pain medications, you have the technology that's advanced and it's working and there's like no side effects, you know.
at least none that I could tell, like, why wouldn't you offer this first?
That's right.
And people are really happy.
So it's like.
Lisa, what is your experience with the signal relief patch?
Because I know you brought this product to the ministry because you truly believed in this product.
You showed us it worked, and now you're here.
So what was your experience with this?
Well, you know what was interesting?
When I met them, it was almost four years ago, isn't that something?
And I had just had hip surgery, total hip surgery, which I didn't mention because I thought I was too young to tell anybody.
But I still had residual discomfort because it had been just a little bit.
But I put that on, and right away, as we were sitting there in Nashville, it started getting hot.
And I thought, this is interesting.
But as I learn more about Mike, who Mike is, his background, because I think that's really important.
As we make products and create products and bring them to the market, there's a trickle-down effect from the owners and the founders and how the product actually works and is presented in the future of the company and the products.
Mike is the absolute best.
Organs Deteriorate: The Pain Connection 00:07:55
So when I started to learn about his background, I started to learn about his heart, his faith, I was excited.
And then I started thinking about all the other people that are on medication that are damaging their body over a period of time.
And, you know, we're going to talk about our veterans in a moment.
And I thought we talked about that extensively.
How can we help the people that we haven't been able to reach?
Absolutely.
So that was many, many stories since then.
You know, Dr. Avery Jackson, when I look at the studies of mental health illnesses that is happening all over the world, it's blowing the numbers out of the water.
I don't think any of us were ready to really understand.
And many years, no one really quoted what it was.
Yet we've been dealing with mental health for years.
The trauma of life, the trauma of divorce, the trauma of sexual abuse and just all kinds of things.
What does the stress and the pain does to the brain on changing the signals that it releases?
Because I feel like the brain is connected to our organs in some weird way.
I'm not a doctor just like you, Mike, but I do experience things in my life that I don't understand how the brain works.
Maybe I should go back to school because I'm intrigued about the brain.
What happens to the brain when we deal with mental health illnesses and the stress and the trauma?
Yeah, right.
So great.
That's a great point.
So Walter Cannon was the first person to describe what we know as a fight or flight phenomenon, right?
And he looked in the animal model and the human model, civilian and non-civilian, and he noted that there is, there's a chemical exchange in the brain that's worse with stress, our perception of something going on that's stressful, right?
And then 70 years later, Herbert Benson, a major cardiologist, looked at the same issue and noted that you get all this feedback from just life's issues plus extraordinary issues, and your brain then sends these signals out to all the cells of your body.
And it has a negative effect oftentimes.
Short bursts, great for some stress, but long bursts deteriorate all of your organs and your neurotransmitters and your brain and the rest of your organs can be really bad.
Lots of inflammation.
So to have something that's going to block those signals and help you get some relief in terms of sensory, in terms of pain, that's going to change your brain chemistry.
And literally, your dopamine increases, and there's a lot of negative feedback loops that are now righted or stopped.
And so you actually get some relief and some rest, mental rest, as well as the physical sensations going away of constant pain.
And that leads to constant worry.
Which is one of the things people email us about all the time is they sleep so much better when they leave it on.
And I think it's because it gives the brain relief from a lot of that stuff.
And so, well, you know, Lisa, whenever I first met you, you told me, because I was telling you I had trouble sleeping due to some things in the military, but you said, hey, throw the signal relief in your pillowcase.
Yes.
I don't know if you remember telling me that.
You said, throw it in your pillowcase and sleep.
Yeah, and you told me you do it.
So that's a common practice here, but I really appreciate that because you're right.
It really does help sleep.
You know, we have with us also the special guest, Dr. Robbie.
I want to hear about your new book.
It's called Your Best Age Now.
Your book can also be ordered at drrobbyludwig.com.
We'll put that up on the screen for you.
I want to ask you about that book, and then I want to get into some signal relief questions with you.
But tell us about this book that you've written called Your Best Age Is Now.
Well, I was inspired by a big birthday, and I noticed that in midlife, many people and many books out there, it was all about how one would deteriorate.
And some were funny and comical, but there was a lot of information out there that I didn't think was reflected in myself or the people that I knew and surrounded me.
So I started to do a deep dive on some of the latest research and found quite the opposite, that people actually, in terms of their self-esteem and self-confidence, really felt better as they got older.
They knew themselves better.
They found a strategy that worked for their life and their psyche.
And that there were possibilities at every age.
And I really wanted to put information out there so people wouldn't assign an expiration date to themselves because we're living a lot longer.
We should enjoy every single decade and what that chapter has to offer us.
That's amazing.
You know, what does the signal relief patch mean to you in terms of now you know people can have a pain-free day-to-day life?
What does that mean for you?
Well, I used it.
So I don't know if you know that story and I had great success with it.
And I'm a New Yorker and a healthy doubter.
So I wanted to try it myself.
And I was really amazed at how I had pain in like my hip and then it seemed to go away.
And quite frankly, it hasn't come back in the same way at all since I used it.
So I don't know how that works, but I certainly understand the psychology of pain.
And I have many patients that want a natural approach to treating their various symptoms.
So it's very popular with people who like that organic route almost of trying things other than medication and prescriptions.
But here's what we know about pain.
It affects 40% of people worldwide.
And it can have a very isolating effect on a person.
And it's a double-edged sword.
So if you're feeling pain, it might get you to isolate more, to attack yourself, lower your self-esteem.
And then it prolongs the intensity of the pain and the illness trajectory.
So it's really important for people who are experiencing pain, intense or great pain, to remain connected in some way.
Because when we stay connected to other people or a community, we start to feel better.
And it's almost like a healthy distraction.
We matter to other people, and that impacts how we experience ourselves.
So, these healthy distractions are also involved in what's called mindset science, where you can make some psychological interventions, mind-body interventions that can have a very powerful positive effect on pain.
And, like with these patches, if you can anticipate maybe having a pain-free day or you're not in pain as much, then you can say yes to that luncheon.
You could say yes to going to a community event or that family event without having to worry about yourself that much.
And it really opens up the possibility of healing both mentally and physically.
Dr. Robbie, welcome to the program.
Such a pleasure to have you.
We've watched you over the years on so many other programs, and it's a pleasure having you.
I want to talk about what you discuss in your book because stress has crippled the lives of many people.
And we want to learn how do we let go of the stress.
This is a battle that, whether you're a politician, whether you're a pastor, whether you're a doctor, whether you're a stay-at-home mom or a grandma, we all battle and fight with the stress levels.
Forgiving Together 00:09:52
But how do we learn to let go of the stress?
Well, I think in part, we have to know that stress is a part of life.
Not all stress is unhealthy.
So, when you manage your expectation and you know, stress is part of life, so how do we cope with it in a healthy way?
We're really good at avoiding pain, but we're not so good at figuring out how to cope with pain.
So, part of dealing with stress is getting out and about with people, get out in nature, make sure you're exercising, have people that you can really talk to in a meaningful way.
I also think the spiritual factor is so important in terms of understanding that we are not the controller of everything that happens in our lives, and that there is something grander or more part of the grander scheme.
So, connecting to purpose, having a therapist you can say anything to is usually helpful because they call it the talking cure, and it actually changes the chemistry in the brain when you are talking about what's bothering you.
Once you do that, it seems less heavy, and you have somebody else offering you guidance.
We're not supposed to be in this world alone, we're meant to share it with other people in order to get through and align in the world in a proper and healthy way.
You know, you're quoting scripture without you even knowing it, but I want to tell you something.
The Bible says that in the beginning in Genesis, the Bible told us that God said it's not good for men to be alone.
Then you go back to the scriptures in the book of James, and this is what it says: Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another.
That's what she was just talking about.
Find somebody that you can find that you can trust to talk.
I have a friend of mine that he just discovered that when he was a young boy, he had a terrible trauma happen to him, being sexually abused.
And now that he's in his 60s, he realized that that trauma is related to his kidney problems.
Yet, he had nobody to talk to.
Yet he works with multiple people around him.
He's always around people.
He's a happy-go-lucky kind of fella, yet he's not talking.
The Bible says it is so important that we lean on one another.
I don't know if you know the definition of a friend is, but the Bible says that a friend loveth at all times and a brother or sister is born for adversity.
That means we need one another.
If we're going to go through this process of life, we have to lean on one another.
I don't get it, Ricky.
Christians are so bad on not talking to one another.
Christians are so bad on about dealing with mental health illnesses.
It's like we try to avoid, oh, we don't live in pain.
We have to be perfect.
The reality is life is not fair.
Life is not perfect.
When you seem to have it all together, life falls apart and most people go through it alone.
Yeah, a lot of people have to deal with, you know, what they think would be the shame and guilt would come of telling someone, oh, I'm, you know, I work at a church actively or I actively go to church every Sunday and every Wednesday, but I still have physical pain in my body.
I go to church every Monday or Wednesday or Thursday or whatever it is that your denomination meets.
But, you know, I still struggle with things.
I still struggle with mental health problems.
And they, you know, they gather this shame and this guilt about it so they deal with it alone.
But I'll tell you right now, there is no such thing as dealing with it alone, friend.
The Bible even says that there is wisdom amongst the council.
It's the Proverbs.
Friends, you have to find that group of people that you trust and support.
Go talk to your pastor.
Go talk to your deacons.
Go talk to the elders in your church and say, hey, listen, I want to be the healthiest version of me possible.
I know that in order to have a good relationship with Jesus Christ, I need to be whole and I need to be healthy.
And friends, I need to get something off my chest or I need to vent to you.
I need someone just to talk to you about traumas that I went through as a child, the traumas that I'm going through currently.
Friends, I promise you, when you get it out in the open, when you're no longer just holding it within your body and just harboring this, there is a freedom that comes within it.
You know, I like to say this because a lot of people I know, Mondo, they hold on to unforgiveness.
Unforgiveness is one of those things, friends, that is detrimental to your body.
It is detrimental to your spirit.
It is detrimental to your physical body.
But listen, I want to tell you this, believer, you're watching this right now.
Forgive.
Not for the other person's sake of being right.
Forgiveness doesn't mean that they were right.
Forgiveness doesn't mean what they did to you was correct.
Forgiveness means that you're free.
Forgiveness means that you're releasing it back to God to deal with, saying, you know what, me and my human understanding, I want to hold on to bitterness.
I want to hold on and harbor anger, but I'm not going to.
I'm going to give it back to God and vengeance is mine, says the Lord.
The Lord will deal with it appropriately as he wishes.
I'm going to say it again, friend.
Forgiveness doesn't mean the other person was right.
Forgiveness doesn't mean that their actions towards you were good.
Forgiveness simply means you are going to be free, friend.
We want you to be free, spiritually free, most importantly.
We want you to be physically free as well.
Dr. Avery, and you and I were talking at the beginning of the show, it is important because spiritual freedom is first and foremost.
We want you to have a relationship with Jesus Christ.
That's the most important decision you'll ever make.
But people need to be physically healthy as well.
For sure.
You know, it's interesting.
And the word says that don't forsake the assembly, right?
Just come together.
Studies show, though, there's this one study I'm thinking of that shows that when you are in proximity with people who you love, you have a relationship with, that your heartbeats literally sync up with each other.
Literally, right?
And another study that shows that your respiratory, your breathing syncs up with someone that you have a relationship with.
So I believe when God says in his word about not forsaking the assembly, he's like, look, look, little children, you know, I love you as a loving heavenly father.
And when you come together, you help each other just by being around each other.
And I think that's so powerful, not only physically, but also emotionally.
One other thing, there's a study looking at 10,000 people, the CDC study, and it's called the ACES study, and it's adverse childhood events.
And they looked at people who in childhood had one of 12 different issues occur in their homes that affected them emotionally or physically and found that there was a correlation when they later in adulthood by those people, they had more cardiac disease, cancer, and other problems.
It really affects their physical body.
Exactly.
It really did.
I was going to say, I actually went, this has nothing to do with signal relief, but I managed a mentalist who was the top mentalist in the world.
And a doctor wanted to study him in Phoenix.
He's a brain doctor, and he has a place called BioCybernaut.
And they basically hook like a bazillion electrodes up to your head.
And then he has you go through a whole series of things you do every day to increase your alpha brain waves.
And I'll send you the charts so you can put them up for everyone to see because I have my before I left.
I'll put them up on the screen.
Yeah.
So he literally put me in a black room and had me for, I wrote down, he would have us take a 300-question test, and then it would tell us within 97% accuracy if we were right or wrong.
And you'd find out what you thought you thought.
So like, are you happy?
Yes.
And then it would come back and say, actually, you're not.
So then you would write down everything that you were harboring bad feelings about.
And you spent five days in a black room forgiving yourself.
That took a day or other people.
Sorry, it took a day to forgive other people.
And then all I was doing was forgiving like things that I was holding on to.
And it's nuts is when you see the charts every day, my alpha waves are increasing.
My brain was getting healthier every day as I was letting go.
It was healing as I was letting go of things I was harboring and holding on to my whole life.
And I watched it physically in his charts.
And it was crazy.
And people pay him like 30 grand a week to do that to forgive themselves.
You know, you're right, Mike, because there's people, and I, you know, I don't mean to talk about my book, but I write about my experience of the power of forgiveness to forgive my father.
The power to forgive.
Now, the unforgiveness I carried for a long time towards my father held me back emotionally.
And it crippled me to the point where I didn't believe in marriage.
I didn't believe in being a father.
I didn't believe in having kids.
I didn't believe in many things.
Yet, today I'm a father of twins.
I'm a husband of one wife.
No, I'm kidding.
But I'm telling you, the thing is this, that the power of forgiveness can unlock the dreams that God has for you, the dreams that you have, the potential to love unconditionally.
But talking about it, I don't get it, Ricky.
I don't understand why Christians don't counsel with people.
I don't understand why don't we reach for counselors and therapists.
I had to find a therapist, one of my best friends, and I write about it here, Dr. Gary Smalley, one of the greatest relationship counselors in the world.
He's in heaven now, but I want to tell you something.
I had to learn to talk.
And maybe you have a problem talking.
Men don't talk.
I preach all over the world.
And one of the things I teach about is men don't talk.
We carry the pain inside.
But listen, today you have the key to forgive someone that hurt you.
Maybe your father abused you.
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Maybe your mother left you.
Maybe the feeling of abandonment.
Maybe you're sick because you don't understand how can I let this go.
But I want to tell you something.
Don't do it anymore.
It's okay to be hurt.
It's okay, but it's not okay to do it alone.
You need people around you.
And I'm glad that you tuned in today to hear this message because you are loved.
You are important.
You are valued.
You matter in life.
And I don't know what someone told you, but I want to tell you something.
You are loved.
And I'm glad you tuned in today.
Don't pull that trigger today.
Don't walk away from your family.
Don't give up on your health.
Amen.
God is on your side.
Amen, and we love you.
You matter so much.
You need to know that today.
Amen.
You know, one of the things that you do that has always been touching to my heart is your activism within the veteran community.
Because, you know, Mondo, there are so many veterans who leave the service.
They did things that were heroic, and people will never know about it.
And yet they go and they really get minimal help.
And a lot of them become homeless, or a lot of them resort to alcohol, drugs, or suicide because they feel like that is where their life has become.
But you have a heart for the veteran community.
You've been helping the veteran community.
I have a video.
I wonder if I can play it.
Can I play this video of the veteran that the signal relief patch sell?
Because I want to play this and then I want to talk about this because what you're doing for our veteran community is amazing.
Because, Mondo, I believe what you're saying right now is totally applicable to the entire church.
It is totally applicable to the entire veteran community.
You matter, friend, and you are seen by the Almighty God who created everything and He loves you, friend.
Watch this video, and we're going to talk about what you do for our veterans.
You bet.
Do you deal with any phantom limb from it?
You know what gets me worse than that, brother?
What?
Oh, I'm just gonna go.
It itches like crazy.
Yeah, dude.
Well, we actually were just getting gas over here, and uh, so we have a crazy new product that works for vets.
We've actually been focusing a lot on vets because a lot of them have lost limbs.
Yeah, and uh, our product actually takes so your phantom link will probably disappear, we're thinking, within seconds.
And the hitch, we wanted to first of all take care of you, hook you up with money, get something to eat.
Take that, just the bad, they're gonna help you right now.
I quit all the galvan, bro.
This is an inch can in the big bill.
Put it on the top.
Put it on right there, very top of you.
No joke, put it on right here.
Yeah, right here on your leg, right here.
Yep, watch this.
Hold them on there.
You feel that?
You feel eating up?
I'm feeling like can I put it in there, brother?
Your gone, isn't it?
Yeah, can I put it in there?
Is your leg connected to here right here?
Yeah, about right here.
Oh, sweet.
There's a screw right there.
See that right there?
Yep.
Your leg goes down to there then.
All good.
That's perfect.
That kind of feels right.
Keep it right there.
You guys made this.
We did.
We actually made it through the military.
So do you feel any now at all?
No.
Gone.
Yeah.
Itch gun.
I do.
Try it.
Really?
Stand up.
Try it.
I think this thing's going to change your life.
I'm going to make a difference.
How long will this last?
Two years.
Two years.
You just don't lose it.
Oh my God, we need to parade now!
That's crazy.
Hey, brother.
Oh, another song.
Thank you.
I love that.
He said, I can lead the parade now.
So tell us a story.
You said you were just pumping gas and you saw him over there.
One of the most impactful stories.
I didn't know my employee was recording it on the phone.
So this is what's cool.
You can't pick up two of these aspects in the video that he had.
When he saluted us, tears were coming down both eyes.
Coolest part of the story.
We go back to the office.
We find out that my employer recorded it with his iPhone.
We didn't know.
And we're like, no way, you got that on video?
Because we didn't know it would happen, right?
So our guy told us we can't use it unless we go get a release form.
So me and Zach drive back to get the release form signed, and the veteran was running around in a circle around his chair.
And instead of crying, now when we get back, he has the biggest smile on his face.
And he's like, can you believe this?
Because he hadn't been able to walk for 30 years.
That's amazing.
And that's actually what really gets me with this story: I feel like we're a country where everyone doesn't have to serve in the Army.
I feel like it would serve us well if we all had to.
But we don't.
But I think because of that, we don't realize what some of these people give up to keep us free.
And thousands of veterans are like him.
You think of them as, oh, they're just homeless.
They don't want, no, they're homeless because they're in so much pain they can't function anymore.
You can't sleep anymore.
That's right.
You can't function anymore.
And we're the ones that actually need to get involved to help give them their life back.
And signal relief is one of those crazy, amazing products that can do things other products can't.
That's right.
And so it's gotten us into this mindset where we're like, we need to get all of our veterans that have pain, these patches, and we don't want them to pay for it.
So we've been setting up a nonprofit actually that Dr. Robbie, Dr. Avery, we have a lot of doctors that are going to be on the board with that company, but that nonprofit's going to be focusing on the veterans and what we can actually do to give them their life back.
And not just from pain.
There's other aspects to it, but give them their life back that they've lost to pain.
Amen.
Amen.
Lisa, what does this project mean to you that we're helping the veterans?
Signal relief is helping the veterans.
Well, as a nurse, I took care of a lot of veterans, you know, for years.
And what I felt most bad about is what Dr. Robbie talked about earlier, and that is that the psychology of pain, we had to get them out of that, but it was difficult to do so because no matter how much medication you gave them, there would always be breakthrough pain, and then they would end up just being vegetables.
So it was very frustrating as you were taking care of these patients.
And at the same time, you were trying to maintain their dignity.
Because in my home, we were taught respect for our veterans and our police officers and those that provide care and protection for us.
So when he mentioned that he's excited about starting this foundation, man, this has been a really, really rewarding opportunity for us.
Amen.
Well, PTL wants to support whatever that is.
We want to get the message out there and tell people to get out and support this because I truly believe that we need to take care of our veterans.
There are some men who have paid the price, trust me, friend.
And like you said, they're not out there homeless because they want to be.
It's because they are dealing with such chronic issues, such chronic pain that they don't have another choice.
Friends, we want to provide a solution that they can be healthy again spiritually and physically.
You know, Dr. Avery, I want to ask you this question.
What does it mean to you that there is something that can provide help to people without an invasive surgery or without prescription medication?
Yeah, that's really big.
Ricky, so 21% of the United States population, so about 51.6% of people, suffer from chronic pain.
That's pain for more than three months.
And that's a real problem.
It is.
And so it means the world to be able to have a solution with signal relief where you're not, people aren't getting addicted to medication, right?
And now they can think clearly.
There's a whole science that's called psychoneuroendoimmunology.
Look it up.
It's a whole science.
And it's connecting your belief system and your physical body and your endocrine system, your immune system together because pain affects all of those systems.
So signal relief is the answer that can unravel the noise that's in our lives because of the pain that affects our sleep.
That even affects the rest of our bodies.
And I'll just say that Dr. Robbie had mentioned about an expiration date that we have.
So literally, when you're in that type of pain, something that's called apoptosis, which is basically programmed cell death, occurs, and it's sped up.
So this can actually slow down cell death indirectly through all of the pathways that get corrected with signal relief.
So it's just awesome.
That's amazing.
Mondo, we've been talking about this product.
We have this available for our partners as well as anyone who's watching the Jim Baker show.
Absolutely.
Listen, what we would like for you to do is write this number down, 1-888-988-1588, and order one signal relief for yourself and try it.
But better yet, we want you to try three of the signal relief patches or maybe five of the pack because it's going to help you, but it's also going to be something that you can give to someone that you love.
Maybe you have a veterans group that you're, you know, talking to, maybe you're part of in your church, in your community.
And I urge you to show them that video and try this patch on them and see what the results is going to be.
But when you call the number, you can order one signal relief patch or you can order three of the pack of the signal relief patches or better yet, five pack of the signal relief patches.
And do this, this one right here.
The Jovi patch and the signal relief combo, that means one for your wife and one for yourself.
You're not going to be, I'm telling you, if you just get one and your husband finds out and he uses it without your permission, now you're going to be left without one.
So we want to make this available.
So go to the website, jimbakershow.com and go to the signal relief affiliate page.
And there's multiple options there.
One Jovi band, or you can get the Jovi and Signal combo or the Jovi combo and then the three pack of the Jovi band.
Whatever works for you is what we have available.
Go to the website, jimbakershow.com and get your order in right away.
We want to hear your testimony and hear what the patches are doing for you.
I know what it's done for me.
I know, Ricky, you know, you had a terrible trauma happen to you, but that's when you started using the patch.
And do you mind sharing?
I was on a parachute jump.
My parachute failed right at the very end.
Yeah, so I smacked the ground.
So this thing has been a, I'm talking about a literal game changer for me, a life changer.
Somebody was telling someone the other day about this story, and they were kind of bantering back and forth with me about how this would work to heal that pain because they thought I should be on medications and this.
And I said, well, listen, one man's experience or one man's argument can't trump another man's experience.
You can have all the arguments all day long about why something like this wouldn't work, but I know when I put it in my back pocket, I'm pain-free.
So that is what I live by.
That's why I love this thing.
And I'll put it, you know, whenever I'm wearing gym shorts, I don't have pockets or I go do jiu-jitsu, I'll take the adhesive patch and I'll stick it on my back because this thing is going to stay on me at all times.
That is my experience with it.
And friends, I believe you will have a similar experience once you try this.
Put it anywhere where you have pain and watch that pain disappear.
That's my experience of it.
But they have different types of signal relief patches and then Jovi patches.
Can you explain for someone who may be just tuning in, they're just not watching, what's the difference between the two and what are the different models that they can get of all the truth.
So Jovi's actually marketed towards menstrual cramps, but it's actually the exact same thing as a signal relief.
So same technology.
All reality is Jovi's for women.
It's girls' colors for the most part.
I love it.
Build up for women.
Signal relief is kind of the universal everything patch, right?
But they do the same thing.
One of the biggest complaints we ever had, though, was like a baseball player on the shoulder, on the knee, someone that has like your injury.
It's tough to have that patch stay on a knee that's bending all the time.
And so we just came out with a new patch.
It's called the Raya.
Yes.
And it's with the Jovi line.
But the Raya patch is actually the one I wear every day.
Do you wear one of these every day?
Because I do because it's like a bandaid.
He's in touch with this feminine.
It literally can go on your elbow, your shoulder, anywhere, and it's like a band-aid.
It's so thin.
It is more flexible.
Yeah, you can't feel that it's there, and it works just actually, if not better, than the original patch.
It's awesome.
So you're telling me someone can get the signal relief patch right here.
This one is going to be, you said waterproof.
It is.
You can shower with it.
It's just the difference.
This is made for about a week.
It lasts a week, and then you have to get a new one.
But for someone that wants to try it out, this is awesome, right?
Or if you're dealing with an injuries that are off and on, this is a great alternative because you can't fill it.
It's non-invasive.
You don't even know it's on your body.
So it's peel and stick.
That's right.
It's about a seven-day patch.
And you can order them every single month and they give you discounts, actually.
You get like 20 or 30% off if you just put it on a monthly subscription.
That's it.
But this is my favorite one of the three.
Lisa, what does this mean to you that they're providing a more, for someone who wants to try this, a more affordable option, a more flexible option, something that's more active for those users?
It's just something that provides more variety on this brand.
Well, if we can make a bodysuit with it, it'd be great.
I was going to say, I need a dry suit.
I mean, seriously.
A body suit.
That's what I said earlier about Mike.
He's always forward-thinking.
And when people call in with comments, including your audience, can we have a lower entry price?
Maybe it's a little stiff.
The patch is a little stiff.
Doesn't fit around my elbow, doesn't fit around my knee.
Mike goes right to work.
So he's always in development.
And I believe that the signal line, Jovi line is going to continue to expand tremendously.
But I want to remind everybody, if you've ordered the original patch, let's say when you first started this journey three and a half years ago, it's time to get a new one.
You need to get a new one.
And don't be afraid, you know, to order both of them.
And so if you're not having the same results that you were in the beginning, that's because it is a technology that is in kind of a material.
So over a period of time.
So it's guaranteed for a year.
But I would encourage everyone, you know, the fall is coming, winter's coming.
People want to get out there and get active and continue to be active.
Make sure you increase your supply of the signal and if not the Jovi, but the new patches as well.
Well, I know this for a fact.
The price of a signal relief patch, I know people who are paying that every single month to get pain relief right now.
I mean, the fact that this is so affordable for pain relief, that is non-invasive surgery.
It's not an addictive.
There's nothing like it out there.
Exactly.
It's not an addictive substance that you have to take every single day to make sure you feel good.
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And if you don't take it, you know you felt it.
You know you didn't take it.
Friends, this is going to be the best entry price for being pain-free you can get.
You know, I wanted to ask you this question, and I'll direct this towards Dr. Avery if you don't mind.
Can someone take this if they are on prescription medications?
And the answer is yes.
It's completely compatible, which is totally fine.
And I would urge all the pain management docs and any of the docs that are listening to this that are patients that they really need to try this themselves.
And if you really care about your patients, it'll change how you see pain management a lot, right?
Because the goal is to benefit patients without creating big risks, right?
The risk-benefit ratio.
And I can tell you, in my pain practice, there's been a huge shift once we learned about signal relief because it's like I'm helping people and I'm not getting them addicted.
I'm not causing any other interactions or polypharmacy, right?
So it's great.
That's awesome.
No, I want to ask you this question.
We were just joking about putting a dry suit together, this thing.
I would wear it if you had it, trust me.
But would someone be able to get this?
Let's say I ordered the combo pack.
Mondo, you said that you can get a Jovi as well as a signal relief patch.
Can I wear them both?
That's actually, yeah, you can.
And that's what I'd recommend.
I would personally, well, I do.
I personally would have one of these because it's the best for like everyday stuff or you have a headache in the morning, right?
You just want to throw it on.
Yes.
And I'd be on something with this coming every month because this is like what I wear.
This is what I enjoy the most every day.
But like for the little things that you do in the mornings at nights.
Or this is the thing.
And it never, and it lasts forever in that scenario.
So I would have both.
I'm intrigued about this one right here.
Can I see that one?
Yeah.
Because I know Rick is going to take mine.
So I got to.
I'm sure.
100%.
Yeah, 100%.
This is going on my back.
I want to tell you something.
It's awesome.
An entry level.
We want you to try it.
Write the number down: 1-888-988-1588.
Try it for yourself.
And then when you go back to the website, jimbakershow.com, visit the affiliate page of Signal Relief, and you're going to find different options that are available to you.
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But if you just want to try it today, I can't believe this is so affordable.
That's incredible.
Listen, call right now.
The number is available to you.
And we want to make this affordable to you.
We have been working on this together.
Signal.
Mike, by the way.
Wait a minute.
No, I like this color.
I want to tell you something.
I want you guys to know something about Mike.
He loves this ministry.
And when we found ourselves through a situation that we just couldn't get out of, I'm talking about being in debt.
And you walked through the process with us.
And Mike, on behalf of our partners, on behalf of our family, you didn't have to do this, but you did it anyways.
Why did you cancel the debt on us?
Why did you stand with us?
Because people need to hear this.
That's true.
You know, I had, I got told by a really good friend, mentor, that in my business life, I'd probably only meet five people that would put me before money and people who really cared about me, who valued me more than they valued money.
And that's how I felt about you and your ministry.
Money's money, right?
It's great when you can use it to actually build the kingdom and do things.
But at the same time, it's just a tool.
And what you guys are doing for others is more important than that debt ever was to me.
And so for me, keeping the ministry alive, allowing you to continue to preach and to continue to help people believe and love and understand that they have a savior was more important to us than that debt ever was.
And I just believe when you help each other and you take care of each other, it comes back.
Amen.
And so thank you.
It was critical on behalf of the BTL Television Network, the Jim Baker Family Show, for our partners as well.
What you did for the ministry is always going to be something that we have on our legacy wall.
I mean, it's just an amazing testimony of friendship as well.
I mean, this is a moment where, like Mondo said, it was critical for us.
We were saying, Lord, if there is a way you are going to have to provide it, and then you give us that phone call and the Lord use you.
And I want to say thank you again for that on behalf of Pastor Jim Baker, on behalf of our ministry and our partners as well.
Because honestly, it's people like you that have allowed us to continue to be here to keep telling people Jesus is coming soon, friends.
We want you to have a relationship with him.
We want you to be in the right standing.
We want to tell you about how you can improve your health, how you can live pain-free.
And that platform is still here because of people like you.
So thank you so much.
Thank you.
And that's why we get to bring Dr. Avery's here.
I mean, it's the relationships that are birthed through that.
But this is something that we truly believe in.
Friends, if we have brought it here and we stand here and we tell you about it, it's because we believe in it.
Lisa, you know this.
I mean, Mondo, you know this.
There's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of products that hit our doorstep every single year where people are saying, hey, you know, can we get this on the show?
Can we get this on the show?
It is the ones that we believe in.
We have tested.
We have vetted.
Have used and they actually work.
Friends, the reason we are so passionate about the signal relief patch, the reason we're passionate about the Jovi patch, the reason that this is so exciting to me is because I know that once this gets in your hand and once this gets near your body, on your body, on a spouse, friends, they are going to see a difference and it's going to be a it's going to make a difference.
Mondo, when you were going through your pain and you were walking, I saw you hobbling around.
I'd make fun of him.
I can't even lie.
I saw him hobbling around.
I make fun of him, but I realized you were in a lot of pain.
Then to a week later, see you walking around normal.
I'm wondering, did you already have your surgery?
Did you already?
He's not.
He hasn't changed anything in your routine other than putting signal relief on your body.
That's been the key, and I want that to be your key.
You don't have to be in depression.
You don't have to be, you know, losing hope.
Sometimes the Bible says that witty ideas come about.
And I want to tell you, this is a witty idea that was birthed to help you to help this ministry.
And call the number today, 1-888-988-1588, or visit the website, jimbakershow.com and go to the affiliate page called Signal Relief and order some today.
Christmas is coming.
Oh my goodness.
Christmas is around the corner.
This is a great, help me with this because my English is not that great sometimes.
A great gift is the word you're using.
No, the stuffer.
What do you call that?
Stalking stuffer.
There you go.
Imagine working with your little brother all the time and you have to ask him for help.
Oh boy.
David, we only have one minute left.
If somebody right now, they're saying, you know, I've heard about signal relief.
I've watched the program many times.
I've never taken the step to order one.
They're riding the fence on if they should try it or not.
What would be your word to them?
I would say you have to do it.
I mean, if you really want to be out of pain and without any of the side effects, right?
It's amazing.
It's a miracle.
I'm stoked about it and I would endorse it 100%, especially being in a pain practice and treating people with different types of pain.
It works.
Amen.
Well, hey, we want to thank you for being on our broadcast with us today.
Dr. Mike Hammond, Dr. Avery Jackson, and Lisa Hill.
Friends, it's that time.
I want you to call that number.
It's 1-888-988-1588 or go to jimbakershow.com.
There's a button that says shop our affiliates.
Click that link and you'll find a button that says signal relief.
Friends, you are not going to want to miss it.
We want to see you in heaven.
We want to be with you in heaven.
We want to relish in the love of God for eternity with you, friends.
I want you to remember this as you go throughout your day, whether it be you're laying your head down right now to go to sleep or you're just getting up and starting your day.
Remember that God loves you.
He really does.
Bye-bye for today.
We'll see you next time.
Thank you guys for being on.
Good to see you.
We want to thank you for your prayers and support.
We would not be able to be here without you.
If you want to see more from us and our family, go to watchjimbakershow.com.
And as my dad always says, remember, God loves you.
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