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Nov. 4, 2024 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show with Dr. Jeffrey Larson, Moshe Bar Zvi, and Lisa Hill Day 2
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Hello and welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show coming to you from the village of Morningside, USA, nestled in the beautiful Ozark Mountains.
Today our special guests are the founder of Start Again Ministries and global financial advisor Bishop Jeffrey Larson, a former ITF Tank Commander, seasoned Israeli entrepreneur and former senior executive Moishi Bars V. And product developer, entrepreneur, and former trauma nurse Lisa Hill.
Our co-hosts today are Reverend Mondo De La Vega and Pastor Ricky Baker.
And now, live from Gray Street at Morningside USA, here's your host, Pastor Jim Baker.
Hello!
You know who's announcing today?
Our director, Weston Peters.
He's the director of the show.
That's right.
Weston, can you stick your head out the door?
Oh, come on.
Somebody turn around and get a shot of Weston.
I want you to see me.
Turn around and get a shot of Weston.
Weston's my director now.
Here he comes.
Here he comes.
Hello, Weston.
How long have you been directing this?
I've been here at school for six years.
Two years.
Six years.
Two years ago.
This is a good guy.
He got married here.
He married a girl he met here, right?
Right.
Who's directing right now?
It's on autopilot, right?
It's an autopilot.
Yes, it's on autopilot.
It's like a plane.
I love you.
I love you too.
You're a good boy.
Thank you.
Weston's a man.
Sure.
You can't do it.
Just a boy.
Director boy.
We train them up here.
And I want some more kids to come in our school.
You know, COVID stopped the school, but we want to start again.
That's right.
And you're going to train them, aren't you?
Come on.
That would be great.
And this boy's going to train him.
We have hands-on in our school.
Do you understand that, Bishop?
Yes, sir.
We do have a hands-on media school where they actually get real life experience.
They're not just sitting behind a computer.
She comes in with high heels on.
She's standing on that camera, running it, one of the cameras.
We had a student one time come in, and she was wearing exactly that, and she didn't realize you don't want to stand behind a camera for three and a half hours.
She didn't wear high heels the next time.
She never wore them again.
That's right.
You're wearing those comfortable, you're wearing those comfortable tennis shoes after that.
High heels are not the ideal for standing behind a camera.
That's right.
Mondo, you know that?
100%.
I've never tried it.
I need our word for it.
Mondo.
It's an interesting time.
Wait a minute.
Let me make it straight.
Mondo is one of the best directors I've ever had.
Oh, thank you.
I think, let me do the math.
I directed over 10,000 hours for this program.
You did?
Yep.
How long did it do?
What period of time?
My goodness, over a decade.
That's right.
I spent over a decade directing, producing.
And so in this school, you're going to teach kids how to.
No, I don't want to teach any.
No, I'm kidding.
No, I will teach everything that I know.
Pastor.
You teach people.
And your church just puts the man in the missions and trains them to be a pastor.
And on the fireground, I'm on the pool.
It's the way to teach them in the church doing it.
Don't you think people, you know, I'm a trained?
Somebody asked me recently what the gospel, what preaching the gospel meant to me, and I forgot to tell them that I stood up and taught, or I forgot to tell them that I could preach a message.
Because preaching the gospel to me is showing the love of God, the love of God that's shed abroad in our hearts.
So it's feeding people.
It's training people.
It's being a productive input into your community and a representative.
We're ambassadors for God.
We have the mayor of the world here.
And I teach also in the school.
Yeah, you do.
That's right.
And I'm a...
You taught a Bible class and a camera class.
I've been doing television for about how long, Ricky?
70s.
You've been doing it for 60 years.
So since you were two.
You know what my motto is?
What's that?
Nothing can go wrong.
I love that.
It's all part of God's plan.
That's right.
That's right.
No, if something breaks down, you just keep going on.
That's right.
If I mispronounce them, I just talk.
Just go on.
Just keep moving forward.
That's right.
People don't even know you made a mistake if you don't act like it.
My beautiful bride says that about me, but somewhere the words talk too much for you to be in there.
Yeah, we do.
We get to train people to reach their own indigenous people.
I want to ask you something.
Yes, sir.
Do you think it's possible that you and some of your people could teach in our school?
I'm sure we could come as guests and do that for a period of time.
We would love to do that.
Even via Skype or Zoom and just...
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
In fact, we got a great big building here we want you to use.
Four Years of Growth 00:08:48
Yeah.
Trying to get you to commit on live television.
That's right.
Let go of my arm, Pastor Baker.
Please.
Just between the two of you.
No one else listening.
Just mono e-mano.
That's funny.
Half of what I've ever done in my life is done on television.
That's right.
We're trying to, you know, teach Ricky.
I'm a kid since you're going to take my place someday.
20 years from now.
No, right now.
But you're helping run the place.
You're doing a good job.
I appreciate it.
You're a good boy.
You were so cute when you were young.
You always use the past tense.
Four years old.
You were so cute.
He came in four years.
Do you have any pictures when you're four years?
They're going to put them up on the screen probably.
I know our director, so you'll see them up on the screen.
You were really a cute boy.
The past tense again, I'm telling you.
I appreciate that.
Can I talk about you for a minute?
Just a short while.
All right.
When we adopted you, and we already had a whole house full of kids we adopted from the inner city.
And Lori had met you in Phoenix First Assembly of God.
That's right.
I was on her.
And she had a bus route, and then she was master's commissioner.
And Ricky, you were living in a house with a lot of people, right?
Yeah, there was probably about 15 or 16 kids, give or take, in that home, no adults.
It was a crack house.
That's just the reality of what it was.
In the inner city, I think you would go to the house.
Well, that's just the reality of what it was.
You know, there's no sugarcoating what it was.
We have food sometimes.
No, yeah.
We had to steal food to survive.
We were always hiding food, even after we got you.
I still am.
My wife gets on to me all the time.
What are you doing with those brownies in the coward?
But Ricky, wow, when Lori found him, all he had on was some underwear.
That's everything I owned.
There's true poverty there because, you know, they were selling drugs, they were abusing drugs, and they weren't really taking care of the children at home.
You don't know his story.
Someday when you got a lot of time, I'm going to tell your story.
His book is coming.
I can help you.
Amen.
That would be a good book.
Amen.
It just shows you the power of what, you know, when the Lord has a plan for somebody, there's nothing in the world that can stop it.
But there was times this boy was locked out of that house.
It was a crack house.
Yes.
And they wouldn't let him have the food.
So he would steal food.
And he fed his little baby sister.
How old was she?
I was four years old, and I was taking care of my one and a half-year-old sister.
Oh, my goodness.
And you feed her and steal food for her.
I would.
That's right.
Yep.
Amen.
And it's a true story.
Amen.
It is a true story.
And I still have a beautiful relationship with my younger sister.
She was adopted by another family of doctors in Florida, and we have a wonderful relationship.
She's getting married this December.
Yes, yes.
And I'm going to go be there at the wedding with her.
It's going to be such an exciting time.
That's awesome.
But it goes to show you, you know, the Lord has a plan and He has a purpose.
And I could have looked back at my entire life and said, boo-hoo, you've had several years of college, of Bible college.
That's right.
I went to Bible college and then pursued a higher education as well.
I went to Christ for the Nations.
Which is one of the best schools, by the way.
That's where I got my first degree from.
Like it or not, it's a good school.
Because it's, can I say old-fashioned?
It's old-fashioned.
It really is.
He believes in the gospel.
The Voice of Healing magazine.
And one thing I loved about my time at Christ for the Nations is they love Israel.
They actually have a Western wall room inside of the college where kids can go and pray at their mock of the Western Wall there.
It's beautiful.
It's a whole room dedicated to it.
They're passionate.
It's one of the pillars of the school: love and support Israel.
And that's one of the reasons why I loved it.
But God's been faithful.
I'm telling you right now, whenever you think that there's a point in your life, friend, where God has abandoned you or he's left you, be encouraged to know that if you are his, he is yours and he will always walk with you.
He'll always be there for you.
He will always be there to sustain you, even during hard times, friend.
There were times in my life where you may have looked and said, Hey, you shouldn't have made it through that, but Jesus Christ, but Jesus dying on the cross so that we could have redemption and walk in the fullness of what he has for us, friends.
And that's what he wants for you.
Everybody at some point in their life spiritually was that broken little boy like I was.
But I'll let you know right now: the Holy Spirit comes in and he refreshes you, he gives you what you need, and he raises you in the way you're supposed to be raised, friend.
You just need to let the Holy Spirit move into your life and accept him into your heart.
You don't listen to him.
He's a Bible scholar.
You've been to the prison.
I'm depressed.
You've been to war.
Yeah, in the army.
Pretty much the same thing.
Yeah.
And he learned war, how to do it.
That's right.
He's tough.
And I love it.
He's jumping out of airplanes.
That's right.
It taught me spiritual warfare.
Crazy.
Physical warfare was a little bit different.
Why did you learn to jump out of airplanes?
Close my eyes.
I really did every single time.
They tell you to keep them open.
What was the first time like?
The first time was very fun.
The second time was scary.
Yeah, because I knew what to expect.
But I loved it.
You know, the physical war will always teach you kind of what spiritual warfare looks like.
So now when I'm reading our Ephesians chapter 6, putting on our full armor of God, it's no longer just a cutesy Bible story that we're supposed to tell our kids.
Friends, we realize that we are truly fighting a spiritual warfare.
For we're not warring against flesh and blood, friends.
We're warring against principalities, powers, cosmic rulers of this dark age we're living in.
So, friend, put on your armor every single day and wake up and ask our general, God, where am I supposed to go wage war for the kingdom?
You've had a lot of training and a lot of things.
Yes.
You've gone through a lot.
Yes.
For just a young boy.
How old are you?
I'm 27.
I just turned 27 this year.
And you have three kids.
Three beautiful children.
And a beautiful wife.
Yes.
Brooke.
Mondo's pretty busy.
Amazing twins.
Tall.
He does.
They're taller than Mondo.
And they're going to a would you call it a Christian school?
Oh, absolutely.
And you're, I mean, you learn things like even the Constitution.
Yeah, patriotic school.
What a concept.
And they learn languages.
Yeah, they're learning different languages.
They're learning Greek.
They're learning Hebrew.
They're learning Latin.
And they don't accept Spanish.
I don't understand why they don't want to learn.
Well, their dad can teach them that.
Yeah.
Say something to your Spanish friends.
Muchas gracias por estara aque conosotros es un placer estar aquí entu casa y queremos de cirte que Cristo teama.
Where were you born?
I was born in Central America, Guatemala, and raised in East LA, California.
Was Guatemala warm?
Warm?
Very warm.
Very tropical.
Was it a nice place to be?
Beautiful.
Beautiful.
I mean, it's by the beach.
You're surrounded by two oceans.
Well, today I'm so thrilled to have my special guest back, Bishop Jeffrey Larson.
And he's the pastor over thousands of churches.
He's a bishop.
And we have with us also Lisa Hill, a friend to the ministry.
She's an ambassador to the world.
That's right.
Shout out to Kimber.
Everybody knows Lisa in the church business.
You know what I love about Lisa?
Lisa's kingdom-minded.
There's not ever been a conversation, I say this with great honor.
There's never been a conversation I've had with Lisa that wasn't kingdom director, that wasn't kingdom-minded.
Where we were saying, how can we benefit the kingdom and how can we spread the name of Jesus?
And we're going to connect to Israel again today with us right now.
Ziv.
Zvi.
Ziv.
Zvi.
You got to be able to kind of, yeah, say it right.
Moshe, are you going to be able to do that?
Would you go?
Moshe can tell us.
That's right.
Can you tell us how to pronounce that?
Moshe, forgive me for mispronouncing your name a little bit, but you are forgiven because of your great heart for Israel.
You are forgiven.
Israel.
Israel is my home.
You don't know that, but when I arrived in Israel the first time even, and they said, welcome home.
Israel Under Threat 00:14:39
Welcome home.
And I never felt like home anyplace else in the world.
You understand what I'm saying?
Wow.
It was wonderful, Moshe.
I loved it there.
What's going on?
Can you tell me what's going on in Israel with this war?
And what is it like to have to go into shelters and things that the people are going into?
This is really, this has been the most difficult year that Israel have had since 1948 when we have fought for our independence.
And it's a little bit ridiculous that it has been going for one year because Israel, unlike other nations, are really trying to avoid any harm to a population that is not involved.
If you go and look at the Russians against Ukraine and all these kind of wars around the world, you would see that the ratio between involved and uninvolved casualties is about 10 to 20 times more than the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
But for this, we are paying A, with time elapse, because it takes much more time because you are very careful.
And B, it makes us to suffer much more casualties because we are very hesitant on pulling the trigger because we really want to prevent uninvolved casualties.
And just give you a great example.
Earlier today, the Israeli government just announced the death of Idy Sinwar, the architect and the Satan that have led to the massacre of October 7th.
He has blood off his hands of thousands of Israelis.
And by the way, hundreds of different passport holders, including hundreds of Americans, but that's another story.
And We killed him today.
The IDF killed him today in Babel.
But we know for sure that Israel had at least 10 different opportunities to kill them, to kill him.
And we decided not to kill him because there were uninvolved Palestinians behind or beside him.
So by God's miracle, he was killed today.
And three weeks ago, Haxa Nasrallah was killed.
And slowly but very surely, all the chain of command is being eliminated.
And I just hope that the head of the snake, which is Iran, there would be similar faith to its Ayatollah's leaders, Khaminai and others, because unlike the Ayatollah and the Revolution Party behind, the Iranian people are good people.
This is a great people with a great legacy, and they do not have anything against Israel.
Israel is 1500 miles from Iran.
There is no religious conflict, no border conflict, not even culture conflict.
It's only the heads of Khaminai and its devastated party to diminish Israel and to wipe her from the map.
But he's going to be surprised because he would be wiped out long before he would be even able to harm Israel because Genesis 12:3 is saying, those who bless Israel will be blessed, but those who curse Israel will be cursed.
Masarallah was cursed.
He just went to meet the 72 virgins.
And today, this Satan still vanished, became dust.
You were born in Israel.
Were you born in Tel Aviv?
Is that right?
Yes, sir.
I was born in Tel Aviv 65 years ago.
I was raised in Tel Aviv.
I was a tank commander in the IDF.
I have the honor to be in one operation in Lebanon, 1977, and then in the Lebanon War, First War, 1982.
And there I moved to the States and I was studying in the American University that brought me the start of my admiration towards the American people, being really the great democracy in the world.
It doesn't look that anymore because so many things happen.
And then I came back to Israel.
And after I was serving as president and CEO for the Jerusalem Post, located in New York City, I came back to Israel.
And for the last 18 years, my entire life is dedicated to build bridge between Christians, lovers of Israel, and the Jewish people and Israelis, because there are nine millions of us Israelis, but there are about one billion lovers of Israel around the world.
And I really want to put all of them together because the world has become a very ugly place.
And if Christians and Jews are not standing together for the same interest, we would all suffer because the world has become a very problematic place.
And this is the time to bring on the lines and to fight back.
And by the way, Israel is fighting back now, even in the name of those Christian lovers of Israel.
And really, frankly speaking, Israel is fighting now in the name of the entire Western world because that's the only nation that is fighting Iran.
And Iran is the head of the snake, which is being backed by China, by Russia, by Turkey, by crazy, crazy regimes.
And the only upside that I can tell is that if Americans would wake up on November 4th and make a difference in the elections and the lack the biblical point of view,
that means faith and biblical would come back to America, that's my hope because this would open the door to destroy the regime in Iran.
Because during the Biden administration, we had been on the edge of a nuclear bomb that is threatening not only Israel, but also Europe and even the USA, by the way.
I'm going to ask you another stupid question because I haven't.
I want people to know the size of Israel.
Can you explain how big Israel is where people like me can understand?
Israel is the size of New Jersey, which I guess is not the largest size in the States of America.
But I can tell you that if you drive from Tel Aviv, if you're driving east, you would hit the border within 25 miles.
25 miles is, you know, going from somewhere in Long Island into New York City.
I'm very concerned about Iran.
Iran has vowed to destroy Israel.
And yet our president says don't destroy their ability to bomb Israel, Iran's ability.
They have underground.
You see it on television.
Yes, the nuclear facility.
It's big.
It's underground.
It's so far under that it can't be bombed.
Yeah, no.
We can get to it if we want to, but we have to want to.
What do you think?
And I'm very disturbed about this.
I believe they already have the bomb.
Don't argue with me over that because you can't convince me they don't.
And I believe the time has come to an end for Israel to be able to be secure from being bombed off the face of the earth.
Now, do you know anything that I don't know?
You're a smart man.
You're a journalist.
I know journalists.
I am one.
I started journalism.
I was editor, my college paper, my school paper, and I like journalism, but I don't like some of the nasty journalism we have today.
I hope we haven't lost Moshe.
The government may have taken the government plays games too here in America.
I have a very simple question for that.
In the next coming day or two days, Iran would suffer a very severe attack coming from Israel as a retaliation for the missiles attack.
There has been two missiles attacked with ballistics missiles.
Now, Iranians would have two options.
First option would be to retaliate back, and then they would be under the severe risk of losing their nuclear facilities and energy ports.
How many miles is it to Israel from here?
Do you know anything?
Oh my god, thousands.
Yeah, I mean, you're crossing an entire ocean.
I mean, this is the other side of the world.
We're coming live from Israel.
Moshe, can you hear me?
I hope they get you back.
There you are.
You're back.
Go ahead.
It's 2,000 miles.
2,000 miles.
Now, if Iran would retaliate, they would be at the risk of losing the nuclear facilities plus the energy ports where they are supplying.
By the way, they are supplying billions of dollars worth of oil and they are using their income not in order to feed or improve the quality of life in Iran, but they are just paying money to their proxies in order to help them destroy Israel.
But of course, Israel will prevail because Israel is the choice of God and the Holy Land is God's election people.
So I'm telling you that Iran would have to choose because if they would retaliate and then there would be a ping pong between Israel and Iran, they will be losing both the nuclear and energy facilities.
And then there is a great opportunity that happened once in 50 years to destroy the regime of the Iranians completely.
Because there is no problem with the Iranian people.
The only problem is with Khomeini and this Satan representative that are under these revolution guards.
Donald Trump is running for president.
Is it true that he rebuilt the embassy in Jerusalem?
Yes, sir.
A few years ago, the embassy was relocated and now is being operated from Jerusalem.
And of course, President Trump considers Israel capital as its eternal capital, unlikely so many European countries that are living in denial, you know.
But this denial is a lose-lose situation because they deny the fact that Jerusalem is the capital city of Israel for generations and for really eternity.
But on the other hand, they're living in denial because by the year 2050, which is only 25 years from now, the UK and France and the entire Scandinavian countries.
Become a Watchman 00:15:22
will be majority of Islams, including Uk.
The number one name in the UK today, number one name in quantities is Muhammad.
And this is Europe, the year of 2024.
So Israel, by fighting the extreme Islam, is making a big war on behalf of the Western free world.
But not everybody understands it.
Are you convinced that Trump is a friend of Israel?
Yes, sir.
Yes.
All right.
Ricky, you got a question to ask.
Well, I just want to get into the, you know, the reason that we brought Moshe on is there's a project we're partnering with their ministry on, and this is important.
It's the prayer garden at Yardinette.
I want to make sure I'm saying that right.
Before we get into the details, we have Bishop Jeffrey here, Lisa Hill, as well as Moshe.
We're going to get into the details of this project.
Watch this video and see what you can be a part of in the nation of Israel.
Shalush, shalom, Yerushalayim.
As we pray for the peace of Jerusalem, we welcome you to Yardinit, the historic baptismal site at the southern point of the Sea of Galilee, where more than 900,000 believers come each year to be baptized in the same waters where Yeshua Jesus was baptized, immersed by Jochan, John the Baptist.
While the spiritual experience here is profound, visitors face challenges due to limited facilities.
That's why we are embarking on a transformative project.
The prayer garden at Yardinet will be a serene sanctuary for reflection with memorial walls etched in Jerusalem stone, a symbol of shared unity of both Christians and Jews.
Join us in this divine mission for just $250.
Have your name engraved on the garden wall and create a lasting legacy.
Support Israel.
Become a watchman on the wall.
I'm Israel Chai.
So anyways, as you can see, there is a footprint that somebody will be able to leave in the nation of Israel.
Bishop Jeffrey, can you explain whenever somebody partners with this project, what is it that they're partnering with and what are they getting involved with?
Sure.
One of the most prevalent questions that we get is, okay, all of this stuff is happening.
There's a tremendous setup talking about what's happening.
Israel's at war, longest, you know, battlefront and everything that they've been in there.
They'll be wiped out.
Absolutely.
So the person sitting at home right now watching this is saying, what can I do about this?
I may not be able to go fight.
I may not be able to go, you know, whatever.
Here's the beauty of this.
We can show our support right here today.
Right now.
Right now.
And we can share that we love the nation of Israel because we have a very unique opportunity.
So one of the things that Moshe there, and he's a mover and shaker in Israel and carries a really big stick around the globe.
And I just love him because he seems so humble and stuff.
And he is.
Amazing.
But he has a project and a love, a program called Love for Israel.
And out of that, what happens?
Well, what he focuses on, let me get back to the point, is that he is one that wants to enhance the love affair between Christians and Jews, between the Christian world, those billion people, and the 9 million people that live in Israel and demonstrate love, mutual love and admiration and support for one another.
So the garden program, it's called the Garden at Yardanit.
Yardanite is a Hebrew word that literally means like beautiful place on the Jordan.
It is beautiful.
And it's gorgeous.
It's down just off of the southwestern edge, the very southern part of the Sea of Galilee.
It's beautiful.
Yeah, and it's where the River Jordan runs from there, literally 800 meters, yeah.
It's a traditional place of baptism where we celebrate John the Baptist baptizing Jesus into his ministry.
And so it's an absolutely beautiful place.
And some 900,000 to a million people a year show up there to get baptized.
And so Moses' vision and our vision that we as we call ourselves the coalition because we're a great support and stuff for what they're doing with this project is to is to set an example of the love and unity between the Christians and the Jews and for us as believers to say, I love you, Israel.
So what we're doing is we're building a garden there adjacent to the baptismal site where you got to baptize Pastor Ricky.
And so many people have been there, but many people don't get to go there.
So we're building this beautiful garden in there, and it's there as a place of meditation, a place of prayer, a place of serenity for all walks of life to come.
And on there, we're going to build these walls and stuff there that we're going to place on the outside of these walls a Jerusalem stone, an enduring, beautiful legacy stone.
I mean, look at places like the Western Wall and stuff.
Look at places that have Jerusalem stone.
It is an enduring and a lasting legacy stone.
So even the materials are chosen specifically for this.
There's a sample they're sharing on the screen there.
But we're going to put, when a person helps to support this program with only $250, we help to build the actual garden itself and these walls, but we're going to put up as a memorium to that person.
I should say memorium.
It's for the living and those that are gone.
You can put someone up in remembrance of somebody or as a gift for someone.
But when we sell one of these stones, they will get their name engraved deeply into this Jerusalem stone.
Now, what's interesting about that, that we've spoken of previously, as we've been talking, is the longevity of that stone.
I mean, this is something that, you know, our Bible tells us that Jesus is going to rule and reign from Jerusalem.
That's right.
This is something that, for all intents and purposes, is going to be there during that time.
Amen.
And until Christ comes, this is a way that we get to put our name on the wall as a watchman, as someone that loves and cares for Israel.
So we can place our name as part of that support, saying, we believe in you and we love you.
And wouldn't it be fun to go there some years from now where someone in the family says, that's my grandpa's name.
That's my grandma's name right there that left a legacy there that showed support for the nation of Israel.
That's right.
If I might continue, because I know I'm bogarting the time here.
We love it.
You know, so many people are vocally bashing Israel.
They are.
And people are protesting for Palestinian rights or whatever else.
Well, they don't even know what they are.
That's right.
I mean, the people that are protesting, they're just out there mindlessly, you know, going after Israel.
We don't love it.
You know what?
We love Israel.
Amen.
We're not only commanded to love Israel.
I love Israel.
Israel is so tiny, but his enemies all around us.
Isn't it amazing that they all want to wipe him out?
And so here's something we can.
I'm going to get a map.
I'd show it.
We'll put it up on the screen.
It's a little tiny place.
It's probably on the screen.
It's so tiny.
It's a tenth of a percent or a hundredth of a percent of what the Middle East is.
All of those things, all those stories that we look at.
We read earlier about Abram leaving his land and go to a land that God would show him, a land of promise.
That's right.
And all of the things that happened with.
I'm going to give you a chat to my stone.
There you go.
And if I can do it, I have Social Security.
I do not get a salary.
My salary goes to the government.
True.
They have taken all my royalties, everything for years.
They took my houses.
They took my mother's house, my wife's house, my wife's mother's house, and all that.
And they stripped us of everything.
And yet you and you.
And that's my Social Security.
That's for my Social Security.
So amazing.
If I can do it, I think other people can do it.
And Christmas is coming.
And the holidays are coming up.
I think we all have enough socks and other things that we don't need.
And a lot of times we return them.
What a legacy.
You know, since I was a young girl, I've been wanting to leave a legacy.
Please real.
I want you to book me with either the bishop or somebody who's going.
I want a group around me because I need a lot of help.
Absolutely.
Get my boy.
Moshe, you're listening, aren't you?
He's on his way.
There you go.
I'm going to take a tour.
And I can.
Yes.
By then, by Christmas, I'm going to be able to walk.
Amen.
But I take my cane and I steady myself with that sometimes.
I want to go.
I want to go to Israel.
That's my goal.
There is something before I die.
Absolutely.
There's something to be said about a name.
When you are engraving your name in something, I mean, biblically, you know, we talk about a name all the time, how important it is.
So to have it there forever and ever, amen, in this type of technology.
And you use a different technology on the stone, don't you?
That's what I think is so fascinating as well.
So it's the most perfect, perfect gift and the perfect, you know, our gift to Israel.
Legacy.
It's a legacy product.
You know, in America, I was surprised to know that people buy stars for people.
Right.
And they get certificates.
And I want to tell you something.
That's nice, but nothing says more to leave a legacy with than become a part of biblical history.
And when you become part of a biblical history, you can go there with your family and share the story that so many of us have heard since we were kids, Bible stories that come to life.
But engraving your name on the Jerusalem stone creates a legacy, not only for you, for your family.
Maybe your church wants to do this.
What we want you to do is go to the website, jimbakershow.com and visit the affiliate page that is titled, I believe, the Prayer Garden.
Prayer Garden.
That's what we're going to call it.
That is the affiliate page.
We want you to visit or give us a call, 1-888-988-1588.
And don't just get one, get two or three and write the names of the people that you want to remember and a legacy.
And you can write me.
I mean, you can just write here, our address is Ricky.
I mean, I'm over here.
What's my address?
That's right.
It's P.O. Bucks.
That's right.
We do have the mail-in order.
You can put that on the screen.
You'll see it on the screen, our websites as well.
But just like any other affiliate program we have, you will go to that affiliate landing page.
You'll call that number or you'll go onto that site.
And that's where people are.
We're so busy all the time because we don't have very many operating.
Yes.
One of the beautiful things is we've taken that labor away from you.
And we're so appreciative of giving us the opportunity to be on here and your partnership with this program because of your ongoing love, the love affair with Israel.
And so this is a natural, this is a natural thing.
So we've actually taken all those technical things and we've made it exceptionally simple.
You can go to JimBakershow.com and you can click on the affiliate link or a shoot screen.
Yeah, and you'll see a link to theprayergarden.com or thepraygarden.org, pardon me, go to theprayergarden.org.
You're going to see all about the project.
And when you want to order a stone to be part of this, to be part of this legacy, it's real simple because there's a click right there to say, I saw this on the Jim Baker show.
I'm part of that.
I'm part of this legacy.
Wouldn't it be cool to see about half of the stones out of the total of 100,000 that we're going to do?
Wouldn't it be fun if half of that just was the people that are watching here?
Yeah, the PTL.
Wouldn't that be a blast?
We could all take a trip and see it.
There you go.
That's right.
And I want to put my mother and dad there.
Amen.
I don't have enough money in my Social Security, but I will.
I bet we can take care of you somewhere in there.
I don't want you to have my dad's name there and my grandmother.
I love you.
You bring up a point.
And I'm going to take advantage of your statement for just a moment because there are many, many people on limited incomes.
And the last thing they want to do is say, oh, here's somebody hit me for $10 or $5 again.
I don't know where it's going or $100.
What does it normally take to do a legacy program like this, to have your name on a wall somewhere?
Well, it's in the thousands.
You know, you can go and sign up for something and give thousands of dollars.
But we've made something that a family can do or a group of families can do or you can get all the grandkids together to put soldiers there on top of it.
Yeah, absolutely.
Thank you for bringing that up.
So $250, we construct the garden.
We maintain the garden.
We put the beautiful walls and the trees and everything else in there.
But a portion of that, and the film, the video that you saw, adds so eloquently, it says a tithe of that, a tithe of that $250, goes to take care of the people of Israel, the October 7th survivors, their families, and all of those that served in the military, which is both male and female in Israel.
Everybody does.
But the post-traumatic stress disorder that they're suffering is unbelievable.
Well, Ricky, let me ask you a question.
You know, you're in the service here in the United States.
Can you imagine if you were at a year of battle with one or two days of break?
Yeah.
I mean, their entire country is under siege, and every single day is at this.
That's right.
And they're facing, it is true, this post-traumatic stress disorder that they're facing.
It is true.
And friends, what we do here at the PTL Television Network, the Jim Baker Family Show, is we are getting the opportunity to partner to help serve these men and women because there are a lot of people who are facing these health challenges.
And I'll tell you, that is something that if it isn't treated, it will be a lifelong effect for these people.
And as we've seen, it can affect generations and generations of people.
Why?
Because that is a heavy burden to bear alone.
But friends, we're getting the opportunity to bear this burden with them, friends, to help them with this.
And there are programs with success rates of up to 95% we were talking about yesterday, Bishop.
Can we talk about that?
Yeah, sure.
You know, it's a really neat thing that we have people from the U.S. that are experts, psychologists, et cetera, and train other psychologists and social workers, et cetera.
And so Moshe has already had these people.
This is an idea we've come up with because the average person that's experienced PTSD has to begin some type of counseling within the first three months or so, or they begin to pick up traits and habits that last them a lifetime that are hard to beat.
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And so what they're trying to do is they're already having counselors trained to go out and reach the people.
This is a thing that's happening already.
We're not waiting for a nebula somewhere.
And so we already have that.
And so, what these funds will do is help us to be more effective, bring more people and stuff.
And we're training people in country that, again, are reaching their own peoples and with counseling and valid answers and support and help, not just to the military, but to those October 7th families that lost someone or the 11,000 that were wounded that we never talk about.
That's right.
And the thousand that, you know, the couple thousand that were killed are close to that, you know, 1,500 plus.
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That's right.
And so this program, I love it because we're building the long term.
We're building the garden.
We're showing a legacy there.
But in the moment, we're meeting a need.
That's what's important in the moment.
Now.
And this is what's so beautiful because this isn't just a program that's taking.
That's right.
It's not just taking from people.
It's giving to people.
It's speaking into people's lives today.
What's giving life back to these men and women who have suffered atrocities?
It's giving hope back to them to say, you know what, I can continue to live without picking up lifelong addictions, without picking up harmful habits.
This is giving hope back to a nation, friends.
This is something we need to be partnering with.
I know me and my family, we will be partnering with this.
I know Mondo, we had communicated.
Mondo, you and your family are partnering with this.
Pastor Jim already gave his check.
He was determined to be the first one.
Now, friends, we have the opportunity to physically serve the nation of Israel through this project.
You know, by donating, you become part of a cherished biblical site in Israel where your name will be engraved, your family's name in Jerusalem stone as a watchman on the wall, making you and your family guardians of the Holy Land.
Yes.
You don't even have to be there, but knowing that your family is there and pray about doing this today.
Write this number down: 1-888-988-1588.
Or better yet, go to the website, jimbakershow.com.
Become a part of the biblical history of the prayer garden.
It is an important action that you're going to take today.
This is going to spread the love and the partnership.
When it comes to Israel, there is a non-negotiable with God.
That's right.
There's no negotiations.
I want God's blessing.
And if sowing a seed and becoming part of that legacy, giving gives us a chance to reconnect our roots back to the Holy Land.
I know, Dad, when you and I went there a few years ago with Rabbi Khan, I had to stop filming because my eyes were filled with water, just tears, and knowing to stand there as I watch Israel.
I never saw you cry.
I know.
Listen, I became like a little baby, but I felt like I was home.
And why not sow back into your home?
One day we're going to be walking the streets of Jerusalem together.
One day is going to be a home for all of us.
And can you imagine?
The Bible says that he will grant you the desires of your heart.
Today, by you calling 1-888-988-1588, you're making a statement of faith that I will stand with Israel.
My family and I will stand with Israel.
My church and I are going to stand with Israel.
Gift it to your pastor.
Gift it to your youth, Pastor.
Make it a gift this year, knowing that in the middle of turmoil, the Bible says that joy comes in the morning.
What a joy it's going to be to walk into Israel and see a family legacy.
Knowing, you know what a joy it was for us when dad said, I want you guys to learn that my family, the Baker family, has a tree because we saved the Jewish people from being burned in that Holocaust, from being murdered.
And I want to tell you something.
Something as simple as a tree was a reminder of the strength of the Baker family.
I was going to say the Bacher family.
You know what?
What a statement of faith that one day your children will show up to Israel in that site of that garden and say, that's where my family will be permanently in the Holy Land.
Correct.
To leave your lasting legacy.
I have so many bakers.
I wish you guys knew.
The bakers saved Jews during the Holocaust.
Amazing.
And I went there amazingly.
And then I've looked up.
Mrs. Bacher, they call them Baptist Bakers, mine.
And they had saved the Jews during the Holocaust.
Wow.
And her husband was found out by the Nazis and was killed the last days of the Holocaust.
What a legacy.
What a legacy.
She was still alive, and I got to visit her.
And she took me out to the farm where they saved him and showed me the burials underground where all of them were saved.
Oh, thousands, really.
And they still were coming every year.
The Jewish families, they come to thank her.
Look at your bloodline.
Well, you know, people don't realize the one of the things that typically happens with the post-traumatic stress disorder is, you know, if they're not treated, if they're not helped, suicide is typically an option for these people because they feel like they're hopeless.
They feel like they have nowhere to turn.
So while you were talking about this, I really do feel like this is a lasting legacy.
The reason that I'm going to do this on behalf of me and my family in Morningside Church, and I know Mondo's going to do it on behalf of him and his family, because we spoke about this, is because we have that same opportunity again to save Jewish lives, friends.
This could be the catalyst to let somebody know there is hope for me.
There is hope for my family.
There's a reason to continue to show up every day for my daughter, for my son, for my mother, for my father.
Friends, what we're doing is not just building a garden there.
That is a wonderful aspect of this.
We want to be able to leave that legacy, but we are saving people with this treatment.
I want people to understand, this is where Jesus was baptized.
Is that right?
Yeah, we read in the Gospels there that Jesus went to the Jordan River and found this guy named John the Baptist who was baptizing people.
And John makes an interesting introduction.
He says, you know, make ways, you know, straight paths for himself.
But he said, there's one coming here whose shoes I'm not even worthy to lose.
So you have to do the latching on his shoes.
And so I was going to talk about that for a moment and that experience of baptism there at Yardenet.
And this is one of the spots that has been a celebrated place.
They've had all the improvements there for the last four decades plus.
But 900,000 to a million people show up there each year to celebrate and to walk through that same thing that Jesus did, to go and make that declaration.
I know that the Spirit of the Lord descended on like a dove, and we hear the Father, this is my son, in whom I'm well pleased.
And we get that picture.
But there is something spiritual that happens to the individual that goes into it.
It's really the Holy Land.
Yeah, it is the Holy Land.
And to go there and walk there.
And think about this.
In this day in time, 2,000 years later, we're sitting here at this desk and we're sharing with you out there that we have an opportunity to be part of this history.
That this place that we go to remember, this sacred, this holy place, Israel, and this holy place that's so important to us and the introduction of Christ's ministry here on earth, that we get to go to that place.
That's right.
And that this piece of land has been preserved all these 2,000 years for us to come and put that garden and to have that surrender, that peace and that union with our Heavenly Father, to walk with the Holy Spirit there.
And then if we're blessed and we're there in the land, we go down and we get baptized.
Amen.
And we take part in that same suffering that Jesus did in that death, burial, and resurrection.
But right there, we get the opportunity to build a garden that could have been built 2,000 years ago.
And until today, it wasn't done.
And leave our name.
And put our names in there.
I want to speak to the esters out there.
I have wanted to be an esther since I was eight years old.
And this is our chance.
We just had the million mother martial million woman march.
It's our chance.
It's our chance to really do something and really leave a legacy.
So be an esther and really get your name in that and show your support in that brick and leave a legacy for your family.
Moshe, I want to ask you a question.
What does it mean to you as an Israeli, as a Jew?
What does it mean for you whenever a Christian from America or really from wherever in the world says, I want to leave a legacy in the nation of Israel?
This is a great question.
You know, that there are so many people in the world that wake up and ask themselves, How can I help?
How can I participate?
How can I become involved in the Israeli daily life?
And you know, we are all lean back and say, those who bless Israel will be blessed.
Genesis 12:3.
But Isaiah 62 is getting a higher level, saying that you should never be silent and you should be a watchman on the wall of Jerusalem or a watchman on the wall of the Yardenid prayer garden.
So for me, the fact that these people would stand up and say, I stand with Israel through clear and immediate participation that not only would help us create this great legacy prayer garden that would allow more than one million Christian pilgrims, the idea of praying and meditating nearby.
the holy water where Jesus was baptized, but also we should now walk together on this bridge, and bridge of fellowship and partnership and friendship and also mutual responsibility, because Christians and Jews should stick together now,
because the world has become a very dangerous place.
And for me now, the most important thing is to bring Christians and Jews together in one line that would fight back against the evil of so many different directions.
One direction is coming from China to the US, Russia, to the US, Iran and proxies, on the US, Europe, and of course Israel.
So the idea is now not only 9 million Israelis, 9 million Jews are fighting, but I really want to bring to this front 1 billion Christian lovers of Israel that can stand up and say enough.
We want to do something for Israel.
We stand with Israel.
And the first evident would be taking part in this great project of initiating the prayer garden at Yardenin.
I want to watch have you watch this video from the prayer garden there and how you can see how you can have your name etched in stone where Jesus was baptized.
Watch this.
We invite you, faithful friends of Israel, to have your name etched in stone overlooking the waters where our Lord Jesus was baptized.
This act of love will forever link you to this holy place.
Your support reaches beyond the garden walls.
A tithe of every gift will help heal the brave soldiers of Israel who suffer from PTSD.
As we nurture this garden of faith, we look to a future promised in the book of Zechariah.
Once again shall the streets of Jerusalem be filled with boys and girls at play.
Join us in this labor of love.
Engrave your name in stone and forever be part of the prayer garden at Yardanite.
Ask Jesus into your heart and join us to do something to say Israel, we love you and millions of people will be there and see this great wall and the great garden that's being built there at the garden at the riverside where Ricky was baptized and Jesus was baptized more importantly.
Yeah, but Jesus followed in the footsteps.
Amen.
We have the opportunity to partner with the people of Israel to give the IDF soldiers and civilians who have been traumatized through these horrific events that have happened to them, give them help that they need through PTSD, through emotional traumas.
But also we have the opportunity to leave our names in stone.
Legitimately, Jerusalem Stone is marching in the streets against Israel.
Yes, but it's time for the church to stand up and say we support you.
You look taller than me all the time on television.
I am about four inches taller than you.
I'm a shrinked up old man.
But I want you to stand up for Jesus.
That's right.
I want you to, it's the only way you're going to survive.
You may get the world to applaud you by turning against God, but God's not going to applaud you.
I want to hear, well done, thou good and faithful servant.
God loves you.
He really does.
Amen.
Bye, right for today.
We want to thank you for your prayers and support.
We would not be able to be here without you.
If you want to see more from us and our family, go to watchjimbakershow.com.
And as my dad always says, remember, God loves you.
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