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Oct. 31, 2024 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show with Bishop Jeffrey Larson, Moshe Bar Zvi, and Lisa Hill
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Israel's Role in Prophecy 00:15:20
Hello and welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show, coming to you from the village of Morningside, USA, nestled in the beautiful Ozark Mountains.
Today our special guests are the founder of Start Again Ministries and global financial advisor Bishop Jeffrey Larson.
A former ITF tank commander, seasoned Israeli entrepreneur and former senior executive, Moishi Barz V. And product developer, entrepreneur, and former trauma nurse, Lisa Hill.
Our co-hosts today are Reverend Mondo De La Vega and Pastor Ricky Baker.
And now, live from Gray Street at Morningside USA, here's your host, Pastor Jim Baker.
Thank you, everybody.
It's so good to be back with you.
And we have Bishop Dr. Jeffrey Larson.
Hello.
Hello, Pastor.
How are you doing today?
You have, what, 1,500 churches worldwide?
Yeah, so I'm affiliated.
We have an organization that actually creates pastoral training centers, among other things, around the world.
And so we take someone who has given their life to Christ that wants to be in the ministry, and we teach them to reach their own Indigenous people groups.
Of over 1,650 churches now, and the number keeps going up, I've never planted a church.
So I have not.
But this is a great thing that you're doing.
It's a wonderful thing.
And so each church becomes its own entity.
We sow into it.
We may buy land.
We may, you know, we'll pay the pastor's salary for the first couple of years, but we make them and we create them to be self-sustaining.
So they all become a blessing and an input to their neighborhoods, to their villages.
Predominantly, we have people, about a thousand churches that have been established throughout India, and then about 500 on the African continent.
Then we have some South America, Central America.
Now we actually have some of the Revelation Churches International here in the United States.
Amen.
Oh, I like the name.
Revelation.
I'm a Revelation preacher.
I've heard that about you.
No, but I had to go to prison to learn Revelation because while I was there, instead of just saying, woe is me, I studied the book of Revelation is one of the things I did.
But I studied it in the Hebrew and Greek.
I studied Revelation word by word.
I mean, I'm serious.
Every word.
And boy, it's a lot easier to understand it when you go to the depth of the meaning.
You know, you say something there that is so critical.
So many people look at the books of the Apocrypha or Revelation in particular in our Christian Bible and they, oh, I don't read that.
It's so confusing.
Or it's all allegorical.
Oh, no.
It's not.
As if it's there.
And, you know, my recommendation when we're studying the word.
It's a roadmap to be able to do it.
It is.
It is.
And it's not just a roadmap.
It's real.
It is real.
It's real.
And so we take things at their face value and at their word value every single step of the way, unless we absolutely can't.
And then we look at what the spirit of the message is.
That's right.
But if we're not reading in Revelation, if we're not studying and getting the word, well, first of all, it calls us blessed for even reading it.
That's right.
But if we're not, how do we understand what period of time we're in today?
That's right.
As the end of this dispensation of grace that we have, how do we understand what's coming next for the world?
That's right.
And for Israel, this timeline.
Why do you love Israel so much?
I mean, I know you're kind of a fanatic about Israel.
Well, I'm in good company here with everybody today.
We have our flag out today.
I've been there hundreds of times.
Wow.
And I've done documentaries on Israel.
Excavations.
Have given me awards of friend of Israel.
That's right.
And I'm not ashamed to say I love Israel.
Amen.
And I know this.
The Bible is very clear.
If we don't stand for Israel, we're doomed.
That's right.
Well, it says, if you bless Israel, you'll be blessed.
If you curse Israel, friends, you will be cursed.
That's a promise.
Can you read that from the Bible?
You read it from your version.
I'm pretty sure you got the King James unlock right here.
So we'll read it from that version.
That was the Ricky Amplified version.
Now the Lord said unto Abraham, get thee out of the country and from thy kindred.
I'm reading from Genesis chapter 12.
That's right, verse 1 and 3.
I mean, this is pretty near to the beginning.
He says, Get thee out of the country and from thy kindred and from thy father's house into a land that I will show thee.
That's the Holy Land.
I call it the Holy Land.
Is that okay?
It is, yeah.
Amen.
And I will make of thee a great nation.
Amen.
Can you put that on the screen, please?
Yeah, it'll be on the screen for the viewers at home.
They can see it.
We'll put it in the middle of the day.
And thou shalt be a blessing.
Amen.
My God.
Just that much is good enough.
It gets better.
And I will bless them that blessed Israel.
Thee.
Amen.
And curse him that curse thee.
That's right.
Bishop, come on.
If you curse Israel, and some of our leaders are cursing Israel.
Don't get me on my soapbox.
It's your show today.
It's my show.
I got to come everybody.
You know, I agree with you.
And literally, the time has come.
We used to be able to just, and I don't want to use the worm watchman on the wall yet.
We'll get to that.
But we used to sit on a fence.
And we used to be okay to jump from this side of the fence to this side of the fence, this in our belief systems.
I shouldn't say we were okay, but that was the common practice.
And today, we don't have the luxury of complacency.
That's right, we don't.
And so we absolutely have to be vehement, active, purposeful in our activities, in our prayer life, in our studies, in our relationships and stuff to support the plan of God.
If you want to be in the will of God, you need to be doing according to what his word says.
But you don't have the luxury whether you love Israel or hate Israel.
That's right.
You have to love it, Rick.
Well, we're in a Revelation 3.16.
You're my boy.
And you believe that, don't you?
I absolutely do.
Yes.
I love my boyfriend.
Well, you have another 20 years in your hands.
We stand for Israel.
100%.
Why?
Because book one of the Bible says that we are to stand with Israel and book 66 of the Bible says that we are to stand with Israel.
Let me read that.
That's another sentence from Genesis.
And I will bless them that bless thee.
Amen.
And curse him that cursed thee.
Did you ever read that book?
Yeah, by William Koenig.
A tremendous book.
I really recommend it for anyone.
Please get that book.
How many times I think is in that book?
Thousands.
Do you know Mondo?
Thousands.
Thousands of times.
Where there are direct correlations.
When we do something against Israel, God punishes America.
Yeah, any nation in Israel.
Do you know this horrible, one of the worst storms, hurricanes that we ever had was a few weeks ago?
Yes.
Just after.
You know what our president said?
Nothing at first.
Yeah, sorry.
No, President.
Not President Trump.
President Biden.
Yeah, probably nothing at first.
No.
He said, oh, don't bomb.
Iran.
Don't bomb Iran's atomic warfare.
Nuclear facilities, nuclear.
They have a big nuclear.
And it's online now and it's ready to go.
That's right.
We have direct correlations between 9-11, Hurricane Katrina, the Joplin tornado of Joplin, Missouri.
Direct correlations where William Koenig in this book shows that every time we have harassed Israel and provoked them that the Lord has done something back to our country in a physical manner.
And you know, it's a tremendous book.
Please go out and get it.
It's called I for I by William Koenig.
It's a tremendous book.
If you want to understand this, I didn't mean to go into this deep, but Genesis chapter 12, verses 1 through 3.
Yes.
Go there and look at it.
I always want you to carry your Bible wherever you're in the church and follow along.
Hopefully the church.
See if your preacher is saying the right stuff.
But it says, and I will bless them that bless thee.
That's Israel.
And curse him that curses Israel.
Yes.
In thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Amen.
Do you know we get so much from Israel?
The desert has blossomed as a rose.
That's right.
Most of our flowers come from Israel.
Some of the top technology in the world comes from Israel.
Some of our best scientists come from Israel.
Some of the best lawmakers and brilliant people.
They're trying to get their nations.
It's a little country.
How big is this?
It's about the size of New Jersey.
That's what people are.
That'll help me.
That's right.
And the world is one of our states.
That's right.
And the world hates this country, the size of this little country be bombed out.
The whole land, we call it.
That's what it is.
And I love the holy land.
I love God.
I love God's land.
That's where Jesus is coming back to.
That's where he's going to rule and reign, right there.
And thee, all families of the earth shall be blessed because of Israel.
Israel has created great things.
Amen.
They were a part of that great dome, iron dome.
That's right.
And by the way, Mr. Trump, if you know him, he wants to put an iron dome over America.
Well, America would need, yeah.
We sure do need it, Ricky.
Absolutely.
But, you know, to finish this point out, Bishop, I think it's important.
You said, you know, we no longer have the luxury of riding the fence.
We no longer have the luxury of jumping from the world's opinion to a biblical perspective.
Revelation 3.16 says, So because you are lukewarm and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth.
Friends, there is a line drawn in the sand, and we as believers must pick a side to stand on.
You will either believe the Bible and what it says and support the nation of Israel or you won't.
Amen.
You know, you were bringing that up.
Thank you.
You asked me earlier why I love Israel and why I have a passion for Israel.
Yes, I've been there many times.
I've taken two groups there, etc.
And I absolutely love the place.
But it is such a personal experience to go to Israel, to walk the places that you read about in the Bible, if you bother to open it up and read.
And one of the premises and themes that's throughout the Bible that you brought up, Pastor, and stuff, was about blessing Israel, and he'll be a blessing to you, or cursing and be a cursing.
That's not a new premise.
But it's in the Bible!
Why don't people know that?
Not only is it there in Genesis, but let's look every place you want to go and talk about the children of Israel, you know, in Exodus or whatever.
Let's go to the book of Daniel and see this timeline, the 70th week of Daniel.
That's for Jerusalem.
That's for Israel.
Let's see what is in Revelation where God sends a stimulus, just like he did with leading the children out of Egypt with Moses.
Moses would go say, Let my people go.
And he's like, Pharaoh's like, Yep, I'll let them go.
Nope, I'm not going to let them go.
And here comes the plague.
And then here comes another one.
And then he agrees.
And then there's another one.
Then he doesn't agree.
Then there's another one.
And what's happening in Revelation is the exact same picture that we see in the children of Israel in Exodus.
Can I say this?
If we don't stand with Israel, America's not going to be stood with.
God's not going to stand with America if we turn our back on Israel.
You know, there comes a point in Israel there where the people recognize the wrath of the Lamb.
And there comes a point where nations will be judged for what they do.
And they'll stand before Almighty God, and God the Father and God the Son will sit, and they are judgment according to the book of Daniel.
And so they will sit as judgment over the nations.
What did you do?
This wooing that we see in the book of Revelation is a calling to Israel to recognize Messiah.
And each time they get another chance, and then there's another plague or another trumpet or another seal.
Recognize Jesus.
One day all of Israel is going to be saved.
That's right.
Many are coming to Jesus.
Absolutely.
And, you know, Rabbi Jonathan Kahn is Jew.
And he's a rabbi.
And he loves Jesus.
Amen.
And he does.
He's an amazing man.
He's my friend, and he always will be.
I've heard this part of the world called the Pentecostal center of the universe and stuff.
But you have to look at Israel and understand that they are the apple of God's eye, that they are the center of our universe, as it were.
It's a place where Christ is going to rule and reign.
That's right.
We've got to introduce a guest.
Oh, we have to do it.
Another exciting guest.
Okay.
And I haven't met him yet.
He is in Tel Aviv, I believe, right now, but he's in Israel.
I know that.
And he was born in Tel Aviv.
Yeah.
So he's Jew.
Yes.
That's right.
Born in Israel.
And is a seasoned Israeli what they call him entrepreneur, but he's a businessman.
That's right.
And former senior executive.
He began his career after serving as a tank commander in the IDF.
What was that?
In the IDF, the Israel Defense Forces.
That's right.
That's right.
And he held key leadership roles, including president and CEO of the Jerusalem Post Global Group.
That's the newspaper, isn't it?
Yeah, it's a little one.
Yeah, one of the most respected publications in the world.
But he has built a really strong base of Christians for Israel.
And I can't get it close to people, I don't think.
Maybe you can help me.
Iran's Atomic Goal 00:04:36
Yes.
But if we don't stand with Israel, America's going to crumble.
The storm we just had, I believe, was the direct result of us turning our backs on Israel.
That's right.
We must stand with Israel.
Churches across the country have chosen to meet them.
I understand it.
Mondo, help me.
Because Iran has the atomic weapons.
And I've said I believe they already have it.
So maybe I'm wrong, but everybody says, oh, it's only a week away.
Well, that's very close.
But I believe they already have the bomb.
If we don't destroy that atomic warfare in Iran, they're going to bomb Israel off the map.
Well, they've made it very clear.
That's their goal.
That's their goal.
That's right.
They call Israel the Lord.
Come on, I'm not a crazy old man.
No, you're just an old man, not crazy.
Yeah, I'm to Israel.
We used to banter back and forth.
I've been to Israel so many times.
I love Israel.
Israel imports so much good stuff, even technology.
Well, you know, a wise man once said, when somebody tells you who they are, believe them.
And Iran has told the world who they are.
They have told us what their motives are, that they would love nothing more than to see the nation of Israel turned into dust, turned into something that is no longer identifiable on a map of the world.
Friends, we have to believe them when they say who they are.
And it's not just going to stop with them.
Okay, I'm going to ask you a question, Ricky.
America, they said, would be next.
If they say they're going to bomb Israel off the face of the earth, and they just developed atomic warfare, they got all the underground is way deep under.
That's right.
But they got all the material.
They got all the refined atomic uranium and other things.
Uranium.
You know more.
You've been in the army.
Yes.
And you know more than I do.
In fact, you know stuff I don't know because you won't tell me.
I can't tell you.
That's right.
Because he's on the sinkers.
This boy jumps out of airplanes, people.
That's right.
How many airplanes do you think you jumped out of?
Oh, I don't know.
There's a lot probably that I wish I hadn't jumped out of.
There were some that I wanted to get out of very quickly.
But you were hurt badly when you jumped out of one.
Yeah, my parachute failed on one of them.
Yep.
But God's faithful.
Are you okay now?
Well, I'm getting there.
Yep.
God's faithful at the end of the day.
Some would say I'm a little slow, you know, but they've been saying that my whole life.
What did you know?
What did you injure?
Oh, the right side of my body went into a temporary, essentially what they call like paralysis.
It was paralyzed for the army.
Yes, I still serve.
That's right.
What do you do once a month?
Do you have to go somewhere?
Yep.
So I serve in the Missouri National Guard, and I love serving in the capacity as someone who just goes and supports in any way that I possibly can.
So you know more than you ever tell me.
There's some stuff you can't tell me.
Well, there's some things that it's better just to kind of keep within the realm of the military.
But, you know, that is how it is with anyone.
But when you have a military like the Iran regime telling you every move that they have, you have to watch them.
Do you believe the Bible's true?
Oh, 100%.
I believe it's more real than me sitting here right now.
Do you believe that we're possibly near a third world war?
Oh, if you see the climate of the world, it'd be foolish to believe that there wouldn't be a third world war knocking at the door right now.
That's right.
Because think about this.
And why do people want to put...
Oh, God.
They're going to send somebody.
But there's a man and a woman running for president.
What are we going to do?
Well, we have to vote in leadership that supports the Bible.
That's what it is, friends.
Even at this point, I know you maybe say, well, I've voted Democrat my whole life, or I voted Republican my whole life.
Friends, you need to right now be voting the Bible.
If a candidate leans more towards pro-Bible issues than, friends, that is the candidate that the church needs to be supporting.
Go out and do your research.
Research the Republican Party platform, the Democratic Party platform, and whichever one lines up closer to this word of God, friends, that is who we need to be giving our support to during this time.
Moshe Barzvi: Israel's Champion 00:05:33
And it's very clear.
You would have to be almost living under a rock to not know who's supporting Israel and who's not supporting Israel, especially in this upcoming election.
We must support Israel.
And I believe we have to have a footprint in Israel as well.
Not everybody has the capability of going to and visiting Israel in their lifetime, but there's an opportunity, and we're going to talk about this today, where we can benefit the country of Israel from our homes.
Let's introduce our guest.
You do it.
It's your show now, Bishop.
I would love to.
I am literally just pleased to call this gentleman my friend.
And we've gotten to know and love him there.
Lisa's known him a little longer than I have and stuff.
But he is truly my friend.
And Moshe Barzvi is his name.
Moshe Barzvi.
That's an Israeli name.
And I hope I'm getting it right.
Yeah, no.
And he is one, a lover of Israel and a real patriot.
But one of the beautiful things that I see in him, and I believe this will come through that you'll see this when we talk to him on air here in just a moment, is his love for the believers in Christ and the passion that he has to unite and reunite the Christians with the Jews and the lovers of Jesus with the Jewish people and the land of Israel.
And so he has had an organization, I think he founded Love Israel in some 2007.
And I know he's got a great following on Facebook, et cetera, et cetera, and stuff.
But he works tirelessly to build that relationship and to strengthen the relationship.
And of all the times in the world, we'll get to more of this later, of all the times in the world that we need to demonstrate our love, in comes this guy that has the programs in hand to literally take a step-by-step and take the average person to be able to make a difference in Israel right now.
And so Moshe, I think, is standing by there.
That's right, yep.
He's standing by in Israel.
I know we're getting his computer connected right now.
He's in Israel.
You know, a lot of the bandwidth, whenever they're going through a time of war, they need to designate it for the IDF to be able to control the bandwidth communications.
So Moshe's going to be back on with us in just a few minutes.
Rumors that Israel just killed one of the top leaders of Hamas.
That's right.
That's right.
And what is it?
They've killed almost all the leaders of terrorist organizations.
That's right.
And a lot of our leaders don't like it.
Oh, the world at large is condemned.
They said, don't bomb their nuclear facilities.
Don't bomb their oil.
That's right.
Isn't it interesting that so many countries in the world around there that are thousands of times larger than the total landmass of Israel?
Yes.
And isn't it amazing that people get their bee in a bonnet or get a bee in their bonnet over the nation of Israel that's done nothing but try to love their neighbors and try to exist and have the same rights of existence as anyone else.
And by the way, there are other countries mentioned in the Bible.
Obviously, it's a historical, historical book.
That's right.
But Israel is the one that God says will live forever.
That's right.
It's the one that God says will exist forever.
It's the one that our Messiah came through.
That's the bloodline in the lineage through the house of David, etc., that Messiah came.
That's right.
And so how can we turn around and not love the very roots?
Jesus was a Jew.
That might really startle some people, but he's Jewish.
And so we serve a Jewish Messiah.
And so he fulfilled the feasts.
He didn't come to abolish the law.
And so the Jesus that we serve is from there.
We're having a little trouble with connection to Israel.
Lisa, help me.
Yes.
Moshe, I can't even see Moshe is a friend of yours.
So, could you introduce a little bit since I'm.
Yes, absolutely.
So, I met him some time ago, and he was very committed to creating opportunities and programs to bring Israel and America and the Christians and Jews together.
So, this is a project that he's been working on for a long time, and he was so excited to bring it to your network and yourself.
And he's been a big fan of yours for a long time.
You're I'm gonna start calling you the ambassador for God.
He's an ambassador to the world, mayor of the world.
I think you, I'm just a daughter of the world.
You know more people than I ever met.
Oh, I don't think so.
I'll tell you.
And I've met thousands of people, but uh, I think he's ready.
Is he?
I think that's right.
Moshe, are you there?
Can you hear me?
Yes, sir.
I'm there.
Greetings from the Holy Land.
How are you all?
Israel's Crisis: Wiped Clean? 00:15:27
I'm from the Holy Land.
Amen.
Moshe, you're at your home right now.
Is that true?
Yes, I'm at home because everybody's here on alert because of the conflict between Israel and the seven fronts.
I've been listening very carefully to what you're saying, but before everything, before the project, before touching politics and biblical responsibility that we are all having, I want to share with you the great news that 20 minutes ago, the Israeli government have confirmed that Muhammad Sinwar, the architect of the slaughter of October 7,
was eliminated and killed in battle against Israeli commando of the IDF.
You do have that confirmed because our news said they didn't confirm it yet, but you have confirmation there in Israel.
It's confirmed by the IDF with a DNA test that was approved 25 minutes ago.
You're a brilliant man.
I know that.
But Israel is so careful in their war.
They have pinpointed these leaders.
Do you know how many leaders they wiped out so far of the enemy?
We are talking about dozens, dozens.
And they pinpointed.
That's right.
They do not want to kill.
No casualties.
But they don't want to kill civilians.
That's right.
They don't want any innocent civilians to be casual.
You don't understand how difficult that is a war.
Is that right, Oshi?
It's very complicated because I want to explain something to the distinguished viewers that I respect very highly.
Israel today is at the front of the world, the Western world, fighting the war for the entire free world.
That means, while Israel is fighting Iran and all its proxies, that means that if Israel would not prevail, which cannot happen, Europe will be next to fall in the hands of extreme Islam.
And sorry to say, if you in America would want to make any order about it, America would be next to fall.
So Israel is fighting for the entire world now.
Is it true we're the big Satan that they call a big Satan?
Iran is the big Satan, but the bigger Satan is if you combine Iran to the bigger Satan, which is China and Russia, and then you get China, Russia, Iran, and the entire proxies of the world that are too many to count.
And on the other side, you see the U.S. administration, so soft, vulnerable, and sorry to say, even frightened.
Because, you know, a few months ago, President Biden had warned Iran not to attack Israel by saying, I advise you, don't.
And Iran has attacked Israel twice with hundreds of ballistic missiles.
And what do you think happened ever since?
Nothing.
And tonight, and maybe tomorrow night, Israel alone will be retaliating against Iran.
I don't know what would be the targets, but Israel, the one that is having, so to speak, the guts to ask for a price for those that are attacking her.
You know that even Yemen is attacking combat vessels that are carrying the US flags, and nothing happened, I'm sorry to say.
And you know that the ballistic plan missiles of Iran eventually are planning to carry nuclear bombs to beyond 10,000 kilometers.
That means that very soon, if Israel is not going to take care of it, very soon America would be part of the targets.
It's very clear.
But I think you have mentioned previously in the program that now we need to elect God to come into the politics in America.
So whomever is supporting the Bible, we need to be standing behind him.
Can I ask you, how soon do you think Israel is going to move to wipe out Iran's nuclear ability?
I'm very concerned about this.
I'm sorry to say publicly that Israel cannot wipe out Iran nuclear facilities by itself.
But I think that there would be some combat action that Israel would revenge the attack that had been on April 13th and 10 days ago or two weeks ago.
And then Iran would retaliate back.
And then there is a very good possibility that if and when the US administration would become Trump's, there will be some action against the nuclear facilities.
So until November 4th or beyond, I cannot see this happening.
But there is a clear possibility because from a micro point of view, you know, looking from 30,000 feet, we have arrived into unforgettable moment that Iran and its all evil path can be wiped out.
And this would be the fall of the regime of Iran that killed Americans back in 1979.
So America has failed to replace the regime of the Ayatollahs in Iran, but probably Israel might be doing that within its last attacks against Iran and its proxies.
But there is a chance now to wipe them out of the map.
Not the nuclear facilities.
I'm talking about the regime, because we need to understand that the Iranian people is a great people.
They are not the Muslims that we know from Hamas or Hezbollah or Syrians.
In fact, they are not Arabs.
They are Persians.
And in fact, they love Israel.
I'm telling you that millions of Iranians are loving Israel.
But the problem is that they were hijacked by this Ayatollah, crazy, crazy regime.
And the moment there would be some holes in this net, you would see that the Iranian people would stand up and give its battle for freedom.
I'm sure about that.
But I'm saying that the next six months are going to be very interesting, if not dramatic.
There is really a chance of a lifetime that we are holding for 45 years now.
Moshe, I am so concerned.
I'm old, Blanche.
I'm old, but I'm not stupid.
Israel can be wiped out with atomic bombs.
Somehow, Israel to survive has to wipe out their facility.
I'm not talking about all the people.
I'm just talking about that bomb.
They have a complete atomic warfare underground, that kind of thing.
Yes.
And our president, I call him that loosely, but he's the man in the White House.
And he doesn't want to, he doesn't want.
He said, don't touch their atomic bomb.
Don't touch their warfare.
I think we have to understand what Moshe just explained is so powerful because the ties that American presidents have had with the Ayatollah and the regime is far deep than what we can understand.
One of the reasons we're watching America and the government making ties with Israel by giving them billions of dollars.
And I'm not talking about the people of Iran.
I'm talking about the regime of Iran has received millions, if not billions, of dollars.
Why would American government want to even attack what their investments have gone to?
Mandu, you're so correct.
We've given them billions for their oil, billions of aid.
Why in the United States make a picture for her?
Why in the world?
But why in the world would they arm the enemy of Israel?
And then say, don't bomb their atomic warfare.
I do have some good news, though.
I cheated.
I read the back of the book.
I know.
God does win.
Israel does exist forever.
Amen.
All of Israel, we say as we watch.
God uses men.
Amen.
And we have to have that wisdom.
And he used to use America.
Amen to that.
And we have to.
The president said, don't bomb their atomic warfare machinery.
It's really difficult for our military to take the stances that most of the leadership of the military wants to take.
How can we elect a president who wants to save the enemy and give millions of dollars to the enemy?
Well, that's where the responsibility of the American people comes in, to get out there and vote, get out there to your polling stations, whether it's sunny or raining or whether you don't like get out there and cast your vote.
It's your American duty to go into it.
It's important to me.
This is life and death.
This is biblical because I know the book a little bit.
And I am concerned.
And Moshe's one of the most intelligent men from Israel that I've ever had on the show.
And I know that.
I know who he is.
And he's warning us.
But the one thing about Israel, they're so kind that they don't want to hurt even their enemy if they don't have to.
But they bomb the leaders, but they want to save the people.
And is it possible, Bishop, if you do another show with me?
I'd love to.
And what about Moshe?
Moshe, can you stay for another?
Because I've gotten long-winded.
I'm very sorry.
But could you do another taping with me right away?
I'm the one who serves.
Jesus said it in John 12.
I am the one who serves.
And we're supposed to be his servants, right?
But Moshe.
Ricky, Moshe came here to tell about what he's doing in Israel now, too.
That's right.
We have a very special project we're partnering with.
But this is life and death for Israel.
Don't anybody get it?
Yeah.
I don't want Israel wiped off, the map.
And they will be, they'll still be standing when Jesus comes back.
But I'm not talking about that.
I don't know.
A lot's happening.
The end of time, there's going to be war and rumors of war.
There's going to be trials beyond.
I believe the last, this big hurricanes that we had one of the worst in history is because what we've done to Israel.
Yes.
Do you believe that, Rick?
I do.
You know, the Bible talks about a time where the nations will face and they'll all look towards Israel with malice in their eyes, with hate in their eyes, and they'll all be attacking Israel.
There'll be a catalyst moment where it looks like the nation of Israel is about to be destroyed, but the hand of God will intervene.
And I really believe we're living in that time frame where we are going to see the hand of God intervening where the world will have to say there is a God who is alive and living and that God loves Israel.
We need to elect a president that can take charge.
And that loves Israel.
That's right.
That loves our allies.
It's strange that we have to say we need to elect leadership that loves our allies.
It is strange that we even have to go there because our leadership should love our allies regardless.
And Israel is non-negotiably, undeniably, our best ally we have.
Absolutely.
And there's been a pulling away from those traditional allies, especially Israel.
Yes.
And the restraint that Israel has used going through this is nothing short of miraculous in and of itself.
Amen.
Because as you said, they don't want the ancillary deaths, et cetera, et cetera, that usually go with that, with the war.
So they're being so restrained and so strategic.
I would say they're the gentleman at the table.
They really are.
And they're really, really balancing quite a thin line, having to be that.
And as Moshe said, right now, they are the fighters for freedom in the world.
America, and you said I could go political here, but I'll just be gentle for a minute.
America needs to understand the crossroads we're at.
This is not another four-year election.
This is the history of the world.
We're going to be in the battle of Revelation, man.
Yeah, absolutely.
Don't you believe we're at the end times?
I mean, it's square.
I'm a student of Revelation.
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We are here.
We are in the end times now, and nobody can tell me we're dead or listen.
As Ricky said a moment ago, you know, that there'll be wars and rumors of wars.
So what we're looking at is all of those setups for this.
I mean, we know there's going to be a battle of Armageddon down the road, et cetera, et cetera, and the culmination of Christ's return and stuff.
But we're seeing those wars, those rumors of wars, that posturing.
You know, I read in a little book that as it was in the days of Noah, and look at the wickedness that we have now.
Look at the perversity that we have now.
Look at where our government here in the United States, look where they have gone to absolute perversity, where we have leaders, leadership that'll go to a drag queen show instead of going to celebrate the anniversary of October 7th or the anniversary of people being killed here in America of terrorist attacks, the 9-11s.
Look at the January 6th people, etc.
So we have this moment in time that we as Americans, we as believers, have to stand up and we have to go out and vote what that word says, what this Bible says.
We have to.
It's not about, and I'm just going to go there.
It's not about mean tweets or the occasional naughty word that you've got somebody that loves Israel, that loves America, that's a patriot, and then you've got the whole antithesis, these persons that have been running roughshod with your money.
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We don't have money to fix anything to go help hurricane victims, but we can send our enemies.
And we can spend billions more and send it to Lebanon or Iran or wherever else we want to send the money to, but we can't take care of our own people.
This is a perversion of the mind, and it's wrong.
That's right.
And imagine getting a hurricane victim $750.
They've just lost everything.
Their homes are ravished.
Their lives are up.
They've been neglected.
And they're saying, well, here's a $700 check.
Yet we have people who come into our nation not by the book.
They are coming in illegally, and we are giving them thousands of dollars.
The average one gets $9,000.
Thank you for coming over.
I want to get to the gardens that Mosé is building.
Yeah, we're going to talk about that.
And I do want you to stay for one more show, if you will, to me.
I think show two is where we're going to really detail this project.
We're blessed them that bless Israel.
Amen.
That's why God says Genesis chapter 12, verse 1 through 3.
Read it.
Look at it yourself if you don't believe me.
I will curse him that curseth me.
And you don't want to be cursed by God.
That's the last thing.
And these shall all families of the earth be blessed.
If you curse Israel, we're going to be cursed.
Our leaders are cursing Israel.
Our Israel is saying, oh, those bomb, the enemies' warfare.
Atomic bombs are not optional.
Yes.
Can you get that?
We've never had an atomic bomb explode in our country.
You don't know what it's like.
It's going to be hell on earth.
I studied it.
We dropped atomic bomb and it melted people and it killed and killed millions of people.
But it is destructive beyond reason.
People, I beg you, do it God's way.
And Moshe, one of the reasons you came to our show today was to talk about the project called the prayer garden.
And I love this so much.
And that's one of the reasons I wanted to have you on the show.
I'm going to run a tape.
And then, Moshe, I want to talk about it.
But here's the prayer garden.
This is where Jesus was baptized.
That's right.
York and that.
We're going to watch this video.
Watch this.
As we pray for the peace of Jerusalem, we welcome you to Yardinit, the historic baptismal site at the southern point of the Sea of Galilee, where more than 900,000 believers come each year to be baptized in the same waters where Yeshua Jesus was baptized, immersed by Johann, John the Baptist.
While the spiritual experience here is profound, visitors face challenges due to limited facilities.
That's why we are embarking on a transformative project.
The prayer garden at Yardinit will be a serene sanctuary for reflection with memorial walls etched in Jerusalem stone, a symbol of shared unity of both Christians and Jews.
Join us in this divine mission for just $250.
Have your name engraved on the garden wall and create a lasting legacy.
Support Israel.
Become a watchman on the wall.
I'm Israel Khai.
Oh, become a watchman on the wall.
That's the title.
That's what I am.
That's right.
And you know what?
We have the opportunity as a ministry to become watchmen on the wall for the nation of Israel.
Moshe, can you tell us about this project, how it came about, and what our partners would be doing when they support this project?
Thank you very much for the opportunity.
This is something that I had carrying in my heart for many years because the number two most visited place in Israel in terms of pilgrims, Christians that are coming to follow the footsteps of Jesus, is the Yardanit.
It is second to the old city and Nativity Church and the Western Wall, but the Yardanit is the number one visited place in the Galilee, up to the north.
And this is a place where the Sea of Galilee is, that's the meeting, the intersection point with the Jordan River, one of the most beautiful places.
I don't know how many of you have been there.
I think that Bishop Larson had been there.
And I'm sure that most of you, if you had been visiting Israel, you had been there baptizing.
So we are going to create, when I say we, it's the Yardanit management, the landowners, and Love Israel, which is the brand that I'm carrying out towards the Christian world of lovers of Israel.
So we are going to carry out a vision, a mission, A blessing to bring to this place a great prayer garden at the size of five,
six acres that would be a legacy, a real salute for Christian lovers of Israel that want to stand with Israel.
Typically, you know, Isaiah 62 is referring to for Zion's sake, I will not keep silent.
And I think that the reflection of this is becoming a watchman on the wall.
And I think that this beautiful garden that would allow more than 900,000 Christians that are visiting every year to go around the garden, to meditate, to pray,
to be with the Lord while in Israel, to have the essence of Jesus that was really there thousands of years ago, and they will be able to leave a legacy and in fact stand with Israel physically.
That means that they would become watchmen on the wall, physically, because then they will be able to have this Jerusalem stone that is written so nice and profoundly.
And this stone, Jerusalem stone, would be put on a wall that would carry tens of thousands of names and locations and churches of lovers of Israel that decided to stand up and do something for Israel.
And the reason that I'm saying stand up and do something for Israel is because this project is reflecting the very, very high level of what I'm referring to be the bridge between Christians and Jews that are walking together in the path of life,
and walking together on the same bridge and facing the evil that's surrounding us.
And I'm telling you that this would be a great cause because first of all, this prayer garden would become the number one attraction place in Israel for sure because later in the year of 2025 we are about to launch and build the first ever museum in Israel on behalf of Jesus.
So this would be Jesus Museum that would give more than one million pilgrims the idea of the hundred footsteps of Jesus from birth to resurrection.
And third, we are going to keep developing the area and we are planning also to build a five-star hotel on location so people that are coming from all over the world to baptize would be able to stay overnight and walk in the early morning and go in the evening in the beautiful scenery of the Jordan River,
which I can tell you that this is one of the most beautiful places in Israel and also have a lot biblically.
Wow, this is so amazing.
I want a stone.
I'm going to buy one before you.
I'm going to get the first one.
You were baptized right there.
That's right, right there by your son.
That's right.
In the river.
It was a beautiful experience, and it's something that I'll never forget.
It is such a tremendous thing to be in the same footprint that our Lord and Savior was in.
And to have a piece of legacy that's going to be there is also a tremendous feat.
This prize is going to help wounded soldiers.
That's right.
That's why I want Bishop to go into the details of this because you're not just purchasing a brick to go on a wall at a memorial.
This is actually going to have long-lasting effects for men and women who have gone through tragedies in Israel, as well as etching your legacy and your family's legacy at a place where Jesus will come back and rule and reign.
That's one of the things that really spoke to me when first meeting with Moshe and seeing one the love and the passion between the Christians and the Jews.
And what a time, such a time as this, to show that love towards them and support.
But I love the legacy side of this, that Moshe wanted not just to have some garden that's going to be a beautiful place of meditation, everything else, and it's going to complement the baptismal site so well.
A place of reflection and a broadcast center where when people are baptizing their church groups, they can live stream it back home and all of the thoughtfulness that went into there.
But this brick itself, to be able to engrave into the surface of this brick and etching that will be there for the next millennia.
I mean, literally during the rule of Rain Christ.
And to be able to make that at a point and a price point and stuff where we as just average people can join in and be part of the support for Israel, even though we may never get there.
So I fell in love with it.
And I'm just going to say, you know, for $250, where do you leave a legacy someplace for $250?
I mean, literally, you're helping the soldiers.
We are helping the soldiers.
And so one of the things so special that Rick is baptized there, but I've been there several times.
That's right.
And it's a beautiful spot, but this will make it even more beautiful.
It will.
It will make it more beautiful.
But you touched on something there, and that is the caring concern of the people of Israel.
And this is where another step of our love and compassion comes and why I love this program.
Because as it so eloquently puts in the video we just watched, a tithe goes to help the soldiers stuff.
And, you know, those that have been there, those that understand the structures in Israel, you know, man and women, they both serve in the military.
And so those that have served is everyone, every adult has served in the military almost without exception.
And the issue that's going on is PTSD is running rampant because they're constantly in the state of war.
Right now they're in their longest engagement, literally since their War of Independence.
You know, October 7th, we look at this massacre and we look at the hostages and we look at the attack on the Israeli people and not only the soldiers that are killed, but the civilians.
You know, it's been over a year now.
Over a year.
So they've been fully engaged.
And as Moshe is hunkered down there in his home because they're under alert and they can't go out in the streets.
What you're seeing is post-traumatic stress disorder running rampant into half million people plus million people.
A large portion of their people are affected by this because everybody knows somebody in the military.
Everybody has family.
They're underground in the shelters.
How often have they done it?
Do you know?
I don't know that, but I mean, it's almost a daily event.
Yeah, a daily occurrence they're being affected.
Can you imagine the stress?
Can you imagine the stress that you're saying?
I love you, Israel.
And telling God I love Israel.
That's what this project is doing.
It's saying, I love you, Israel.
I will bless them that bless Israel, and I will curse them that curse Israel.
This is a blessing for Israel and to the Israeli people.
And I want you to be a part of it.
It's $250, and it helps so much.
It helps them.
And this is on Israeli stone as well.
Jerusalem stone.
Jerusalem stone.
It's a lasting, it's a lasting life.
It's the same stone that's still in the stone.
It's everywhere.
It's ubiquitous throughout Israel.
And it literally speaks for longevity, like our love for them, God's enduring love for Israel.
And so the social speaks for that.
Well, we'll get you on the website and get you signed up.
I'm only on Social Security, and I don't say this makes you feel sorry, but the government has taken all my income for years.
I have nothing.
I will die a pauper, but that's fine.
I'm going to be with the king.
Amen.
But I want to do something.
I love Israel.
I've been there many a times.
And I believe that if we stand with Israel, God's going to stand with us.
That's so important.
Amen.
Just write me and put it in the envelope and put your gift in the envelope and spell your name real clear so it's going to be put on the stone properly.
Do that, okay?
And you can call and find out how to do it: 188-988-1588.
Or you just use the address there on the screen, JimBakershow.com, and you can send it to email.
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Or you can.
Our mailing address is 7330 Branson, Missouri, 65615.
That's right, it's a P.O. box.
Oh, let's do this.
Come on.
I have to go.
I know we're out of time today.
We're going to be doing a day two, and we're going to be going into the details about this project and the benefit it will have for the Israeli citizens and the benefit it'll have for you, friend, when you partner with the nation of Israel.
Yeah.
We want to thank Bishop and thank Moshe Bar.
And our good friend Lisa.
Yes.
Remember, God loves you.
He really does.
He really does.
Do it his way.
And you'll understand when you stand before God.
Amen.
God bless you.
Gotta go.
Bye-bye.
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