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May 2, 2019 - Jim Bakker Show
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You Are Not Worthless - Pastor Debbie Lindell on The Jim Bakker Show
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Interview Insights 00:02:26
In the opening of the book, you're talking about you and John and the story about an interview.
And you were told essentially that you had limited ability.
I hate to say this.
I didn't want to ask this question.
But you started your book with it.
That was good.
And that is so crazy.
I would say I was a strong personality, but I was really, really shy and insecure, even when we got married.
And it was about six months into our marriage that we had the interview.
We were asked by a pastor to consider going on staff, or John was.
And he said, but I'd like to interview you first.
And will you meet me at a particular restaurant for the interview?
And we're like, sure.
And so I was so petrified.
And I remember, I think I changed like 10 times.
Exactly where.
You know, Laura.
I know.
I know.
Because I wanted to do well for him.
Exactly.
So we sat for an hour.
And this is a man of God.
So when I tell the story, I want to honor him.
Yes.
But he had misconceptions.
And actually, he just viewed women in a way that wasn't as honoring as it should be.
But the interview, he never looked at me one time.
He directed all his questions toward John, which I was like, well, that's appropriate.
He's hiring him.
So he got done with the interview or came to a close.
And he said, well, John, he said, you have answered all these questions so masterfully.
He said, I am so impressed with you.
And I was like, yes, he's an amazing man.
You should hire him.
That's what I was thinking.
That's what you're thinking about.
And he said, on a scale of one to ten, he said, I would say you're a 10.
And he said, but I just need to be honest with you.
He said, I've got to tell you, he said, on a scale of one to 10, I'd rate your wife at a four.
And he never looked at me.
Oh, that's so crushing for a woman.
Here's what I thought.
Immediately, I was like, a hand on her leg.
Yeah.
On her knee.
I ran up on her leg.
The Lie That Lasts 00:00:46
I was like, oh, I was like, how does he know in just an hour?
How could he assess me so accurately?
That's what I was thinking.
Yeah.
Because I really viewed myself in a limited, honestly, unbiblical way.
I can't believe you put that in the book, especially as your husband.
Oh, I love it.
I love it.
I'm telling you, it could stay with you the rest of your life.
Well, it stayed with me a lot of years, you know, 15.
It's a lie, though.
But you know what?
The enemy uses all sorts of tools.
That's right.
And the lie is the same to every woman.
Actually, every man.
Every human being.
But here you are.
Here she is.
The woman was a four.
That's a put-down.
That is not good.
But she is rated a four.
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