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Grace Encounter Changes View
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| Why did you write this book? | |
| You know, because my experience has been that absolutely it's the one thing we all need. | |
| And there's a lot of people who've left the church because they never, they never, though the church should be the place they would hear it, they never got the message. | |
| And Christianity goes bad if it doesn't have grace wrapped around it and woven through it. | |
| And so recognizing that and pastoring people who frankly were really good people, but never felt they were good enough. | |
| And to watch people go through that, and that creates a joyless Christianity. | |
| We need grace. | |
| And then my own journey of recognizing that I didn't understand it. | |
| See, that's the thing I loved about this book, Pastor John, is that you made yourself so vulnerable to me. | |
| I'm looking at you like you're a mega church pastor. | |
| Oh, here's the thing. | |
| You made yourself vulnerable to your congregation and to everybody that watches you on TV. | |
| You're reading the book and you think, boy, this guy's been through something. | |
| But here you are, one of the most successful pastors in America. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And yet, you're talking about, I felt like you had a new grace experience. | |
| It's almost like another baptism in grace to bring this book about. | |
| I mean, that's exactly right. | |
| Honestly, I can remember as I was studying the book of Romans, sitting in a Starbucks parking lot at about five in the morning and reading, studying. | |
| I had the light on, I was reading and reading off my iPad and began to weep. | |
| And I cried out, God, why didn't anybody ever tell me this? | |
| Why have I never heard this? | |
| Because it is such great news. | |
| A lot of people, they understand that grace is about forgiveness, but that's just the tip of the iceberg. | |
| There is so much more that brings a wholeness and a fullness to a person's life and a joy. | |
| So I just really, it's been transformative for me. | |
| It's transformed the way I view God. | |
| And ultimately, Jim, and I think you know this, you and Lori, you can't give to people what you don't have. | |
| That's right. | |
| That's true. | |
| And when you have that, when you have a grace encounter with the Lord, it changes how you view other people, how you handle things. | |