Jim Bakker Show - Grace Is More Than Forgiveness - John Lindell on The Jim Bakker Show
Aired: 2019-05-01
Duration: 02:29


=== Grace Encounter Changes View (02:28) ===

[00:00:00]  Why did you write this book?
[00:00:02]  You know, because my experience has been that absolutely it's the one thing we all need.
[00:00:08]  And there's a lot of people who've left the church because they never, they never, though the church should be the place they would hear it, they never got the message.
[00:00:18]  And Christianity goes bad if it doesn't have grace wrapped around it and woven through it.
[00:00:26]  And so recognizing that and pastoring people who frankly were really good people, but never felt they were good enough.
[00:00:34]  And to watch people go through that, and that creates a joyless Christianity.
[00:00:38]  We need grace.
[00:00:40]  And then my own journey of recognizing that I didn't understand it.
[00:00:46]  See, that's the thing I loved about this book, Pastor John, is that you made yourself so vulnerable to me.
[00:00:54]  I'm looking at you like you're a mega church pastor.
[00:00:57]  Oh, here's the thing.
[00:00:58]  You made yourself vulnerable to your congregation and to everybody that watches you on TV.
[00:01:04]  You're reading the book and you think, boy, this guy's been through something.
[00:01:07]  But here you are, one of the most successful pastors in America.
[00:01:10]  Yeah.
[00:01:11]  And yet, you're talking about, I felt like you had a new grace experience.
[00:01:16]  It's almost like another baptism in grace to bring this book about.
[00:01:22]  I mean, that's exactly right.
[00:01:24]  Honestly, I can remember as I was studying the book of Romans, sitting in a Starbucks parking lot at about five in the morning and reading, studying.
[00:01:34]  I had the light on, I was reading and reading off my iPad and began to weep.
[00:01:38]  And I cried out, God, why didn't anybody ever tell me this?
[00:01:45]  Why have I never heard this?
[00:01:48]  Because it is such great news.
[00:01:51]  A lot of people, they understand that grace is about forgiveness, but that's just the tip of the iceberg.
[00:01:58]  There is so much more that brings a wholeness and a fullness to a person's life and a joy.
[00:02:05]  So I just really, it's been transformative for me.
[00:02:08]  It's transformed the way I view God.
[00:02:10]  And ultimately, Jim, and I think you know this, you and Lori, you can't give to people what you don't have.
[00:02:16]  That's right.
[00:02:17]  That's true.
[00:02:18]  And when you have that, when you have a grace encounter with the Lord, it changes how you view other people, how you handle things.