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March 19, 2019 - Jim Bakker Show
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Is America Mirroring The Roman Empire - Derek Gilbert on The Jim Bakker Show
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From Republic to Empire 00:02:26
There is a viciousness.
What do you think is going on?
You got intellect that you thinking about this every day.
You are amazing.
I think we can learn a lot from history.
And when we look at ancient history, look at the history of the Roman Republic, which was a republic long before it became an empire.
But it only lasted a few centuries before the infighting became too much, and it finally fell to men like Julius Caesar and Caesar Augustus and the other emperors who basically seized control themselves.
And I think what we're seeing in America is the danger of us going in that same direction.
We are getting to a point where the legislature won't do anything because they're too busy fighting over their little pieces of the budget.
It was the very thing Benjamin Franklin said in those very early days.
Okay, we'll be a republic, but you'll be lucky if you can keep it.
We've given you a republic if you can keep it.
And that's exactly what happened to Rome.
They tried to become an empire.
They had armies all over the known world at that time.
We in the United States are doing the same thing.
We've got soldiers now in Afghanistan for going on 20 years now.
I mean, it took us, what, four to defeat Hitler and the Germans?
It's now 17, 18 years in Afghanistan, and we still...
But we're still in Germany.
And we're still in Germany.
Yeah, actually, we're still in Japan, too.
So we are stretched like the Roman Empire was 2,000 years ago.
And what happened to Rome?
It went from becoming, it went from a republic to an empire where we had a dictator.
They had a dictator.
And sadly, I think we're in the last days of this republic where we are going to see a dictator emerge.
Now, does that make America the end times Babylon?
We have some friends, some very learned Bible scholars and prophecy teachers who think it is.
I disagree, but I can see why they think so.
I think that the political infighting we're seeing right now is just the symptoms of America entering what could be its last days.
Well, what do you think about the fact that New York City, you know, I studied everything when I was in the prison, and I came up with, it looked like New York fit the whole description of mystery Babylon.
There's some, again, some very well-respected prophecy teachers, yourself included, who reached that conclusion.
God's Need-to-Know Basis 00:00:52
I tend to agree with Joel Richardson.
What does he think?
Who thinks that Mystery Babylon, in fact, his most recent book, is actually Mecca.
And in fact, my next book deals with that.
Now, I disagree with Joel on some points.
We've been exchanging email the last week or so, telling each other why we're wrong.
But we'll argue about it on the way up.
How come Christian teachers disagree?
God is not called the Lord of hosts, which means Lord of armies for no reason.
He reveals information on a need-to-know basis.
He is the greatest general in all of history, and there are some things that we don't need to know just yet.
Like they used to say in World War II, loose lips sink ships.
Too many of us are talking to the enemy.
Right.
We're going to have a great show tomorrow.
Oh, yeah.
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