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Dec. 31, 2024 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka LIVE: AMERICA First Year-in-Review

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	Thank you.
	How do you like my garbage truck?
	This truck is in honor of Kamala and Joe Biden.
	We have so many cuts like that.
	Why?
	Because we're celebrating.
	We're actually at work today.
	Nobody else is.
	I mean, nobody.
	I went to the local county clerk's office to renew some paperwork this morning.
	I ride there.
	I could park right next door.
	Why?
	Because nobody was in the building.
	We're at work.
	This isn't a best-of because we still have to save America even on New Year's Eve.
	And we're delighted to have with us somebody who I'm saddened We'll not be walking into the Trump administration with us on January the 20th.
	But just like I decided to support the first Trump administration from the outside, that's exactly what he'll be doing as a firebrand, as a man that we owe so much to.
	And here as well at America First for his support.
	Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to the irrepressible Matt Gaetz.
	Thanks so much, Seb.
	And it gives me great comfort as I make the transition from public service into the activism and journalism and media space that you've occupied, that there are other people heading the other way, that you're going from this incredible audience and this credible platform that you've built In to assist Donald Trump.
	And it's really a great arc for you.
	I remember first getting to know you through all of those Fox News interviews that you used to give about the threat of radical Islamic terrorism.
	And, you know, now you went to Salem and you've had this great Newsmax program and you've really done great things.
	And so to be returning to that life's work of yours, to be able to shape the way our government thinks about The threats that face our people.
	It really is fantastic for you.
	And in this, your last week on air, I wanted to be here to really draw a fine point on the role that this show has played in the America First movement.
	There are a few platforms, you know, maybe Bannon's War Room, Dan Ball's program, Charlie Kirk, where It makes up the key orchestra pieces of the America First song.
	And, of course, Donald Trump is the conductor, but your program has been key for strategy, for analysis, for breaking news, for rapid response.
	Whenever we've had to get people focused on whether it's a macro issue, on just getting out the vote with anyone you know, or even tweezing through some of the specific parts of the budget process, And the debt limit and these things that substantially impact the country.
	So I know there are millions of people who are going to be saddened that they won't be hearing you in this time slot.
	But one thing we know about life, you know, we have to keep our skills sharp.
	We have to always be ready to serve.
	And we've also got to make sure that the outside is mobilized to support the great decisions that you're going to be advising President Trump on in the coming months and years.
	Well, thank you kindly.
	It is a dream job for me after having worked the field of counterterrorism as a trainer and a researcher and professor for nigh on a quarter of a century.
	And I'm very grateful to President Trump.
	But you are not going to disappear.
	On January the 2nd, you will be launching your brand new show on OAN, the Matt Gaetz Show.
	So I cannot wait to see the first episode of that.
	Guys, honestly, I texted him yesterday and I said, can we get you on the show before we finish?
	And he immediately said, yes, this is who this man is.
	No ego, no pretensions, just a man who wants to save America.
	And a man very different from the person he managed to eject from his prime position in Congress.
	I want to play this clip for you to...
	Just illustrate the challenge we will face inside the administration and outside the administration for the next four, and maybe, hmm, let's add another eight years to that afterwards with J.D., the former Speaker of the House.
	Cut 18 now.
	And when I look at the Democrats, they actually look like America.
	When I look at my party, we look like the most restrictive country club in America.
	A reprehensible individual, a person who has no honour.
	Kevin McCarthy, who you're instrumental in having removed.
	Mike Johnson, his successor, has been endorsed yesterday by President Trump.
	I've got to ask you to reflect on that.
	Absolutely scurrilous phrase that he said outside our borders.
	He was in the UK at the Oxford Union where he said, my party doesn't look like America.
	The Democrats do.
	Well, if that's the case, then the whole of America has blue hair and our lunatics.
	Talk to us, Matt.
	About the reality of the Republican Party.
	When you have people like Mitt Romney say, it is MAGA now.
	It is Donald Trump's party.
	Give us your take about the next four years.
	Yeah, there's probably a big distinction between the Republican Party of Mitt Romney and Kevin McCarthy and the Republican Party of Donald Trump and Seb Gorka and Matt Gaetz.
	And, you know, when you look at those comments, it's sort of laughable through the lens of history, because it was Donald Trump, a white guy in his late 70s, who ultimately built a Republican Party that was multigenerational, multiracial.
	We had Hispanics showing up.
	We had African Americans We had people in rural America, urban America.
	He built this great coalition and we proved that you don't do that just by judging people by what's on the outside.
	You actually have to judge people what's on the inside.
	Kevin McCarthy made a great point during his time as leader of the Republican caucus.
	That he wanted to find candidates who were black, who checked the box of being a woman, or this or that.
	And at the end of the day, that doesn't build people around a common ideology, a common vision, the type of unity and teamwork You need to execute on the America First agenda.
	And as always, Seb, we gotta break a little news when we're talking.
	Moments ago, I got off the phone with a current member of Congress who was saying that Kevin McCarthy was actually trying to block Mike Johnson as speaker and then hope that he could be a dark horse candidate To return and be speaker of the 119th Congress.
	I said I didn't believe that that was possible.
	It's probably just a strange ambition floating in the ether.
	But it was interesting that a current member reached out to me to ask if I had heard that that was being assembled.
	It doesn't surprise me at all.
	That person is an absolute reptile, although I don't want to insult reptiles.
	We're talking to Matt Gaetz, host of the new Matt Gaetz Show on OAN starting January the 2nd.
	Follow him at Matt Gaetz.
	Matt, I really miss our strategy sessions.
	You used to actually come in studio as a congressman.
	With Marjorie Taylor Greene, we'd sit there on air live for an hour and we'd strategize.
	One of the biggest strategic challenges outside of stopping the wars that have broken out across the world in the last four years, securing the border, getting the debt crisis under control, is the deep state.
	You are a victim of the deep state.
	What is the one thing you would say right now to a man who's Tackled it head-on, faced 700 years in prison, been shot by a Democrat donor.
	What is the one thing you, Matt Gaetz, would say to the 47th President of the United States?
	Well, I could tell you from the standpoint of the Department of Justice, you have to defang the weaponization and you have to change a lot of the personnel.
	You have to have very rigorous HR. I know Pam Bondi is a great leader and will do great things there and will ensure that people who are not focused on the agenda are not working there anymore.
	And you can't be afraid that if you fire somebody in these years of the Trump administration that, oh no, they may have a claim to come back and sue the government.
	You just have to fire them.
	You just have to say you don't work here anymore.
	And I think that's actually a big part of what Doge is working on, getting the mechanics in place so that the bureaucracy isn't able to slow down the work that unquestionably must be done.
	So the other thing is that when you have people like Kash Patel at the FBI, you get a clear message that we're going to just return to the business of going after bad guys.
	We're not going to use these institutions for politics.
	When the deep state, such that it is, is not focused on retaining its own power, but is instead working on a lot of the strategic objectives that you've laid out over the course of your career in academia and in public service, I think that there can be a common national purpose.
	That's what we're missing.
	And when that void exists, These guys fill it with their own craven desires to maintain power.
	It's going to be different.
	With people like you and Pam Bondi and Kash Patel advising the president and executing on this stuff, you're going to have a change of course, and that's what the country voted for.
	We've got 20 seconds left.
	I just want to say thank you to you, Matt Gates, for being fearless, for being a fighter.
	You know my cell phone number.
	Don't be a stranger.
	America First salutes you.
	Happy New Year, my friend.
	I appreciate the handoff as I head out and you head in, but we're going to be working together.
	God bless you, Matt.
	Thank you, buddy.
	Yep.
	Mm-hmm.
	Um...
	Hang on, let me just...
	The person you are trying to reach is not accepting calls at this time.
	Please try your call again later.
	I would never expect that.
	So we get him instead of Scott.
	I thought you were the one who's like always like having a break and sunbathing and Scott is the guy that actually works.
	No, actually I was drinking a bottle of tequila and I figured, you know, after doing about five shots, it's the best time to come on and visit with Seb.
	When I used to drink, the one thing I refused to drink is tequila because that stuff is dangerous, dude.
	You know, tequila and Brits do not go together.
	Tequila and human beings don't go together, dude.
	Yeah.
	How was your Christmas?
	It was really good, as is right now.
	I gotta show you something.
	I just showed this too.
	Can you see my monitor?
	Yeah.
	It's very blank.
	Yeah, well, hang on.
	Here's a control home.
	I wanted you to see this.
	Whoa, what is that?
	This number right over here is Q2 2017. And this is Q4 2024. So in about 2020, when we put God first, look what happens.
	Wow.
	Man, God.
	Let's talk about that in the second segment.
	Let's talk about that.
	That's really cool.
	You know, second segment?
	How long are you going to have me on?
	Alright, we'll do just one segment if you don't have time for me.
	Alright, I get it.
	No, no, no.
	Sebastian, you know I have more time for you than you want.
	Why did you disappear from AmFest?
	I saw you guys waving as we were on air and then you guys just pissed off.
	You know, it really boiled down to the kids.
	We wanted to get home, and I did not want to get stuck by the president, and so we took off on Saturday.
	Yeah, but this was Friday.
	I'm talking about Friday.
	Well, you were supposed to have dinner with us, or at least that's what I heard.
	No, I was flying out right after my speech.
	Who told you that?
	That is fake news, Glenn Story.
	Fake news.
	Yeah, well...
	Hey, we always want to invite you no matter what.
	You are the spice of life.
	That was quite an event.
	Oh, let's come in with something fun before we do Angel Tree.
	We did Garbage Truck.
	Let's do more Garbage Truck.
	What a good looking family.
	Let's do 12. Which one was garbage truck?
	Oh it's 13. A
	good-looking group.
	Hello, everybody.
	This is not a normal situation, is it, huh?
	How are you?
	What a good-looking family.
	How did you produce those good-looking kids?
	Oh, they look like the wife.
	They look like the wife.
	How are you?
	Nice to see you.
	That's great.
	Thank you, man.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	And there'll be no charge.
	Trump is paying for it.
	Is that okay?
	There'll be no chance.
	Trump is paying for it.
	What a fine-looking family.
	All right.
	We're going to take more calls than usual, I hope, today, because I want to ask you, what is your favorite moment from this year?
	This isn't a recording.
	This isn't a best-of like everybody else in the media.
	We are in studio.
	We are working.
	We want to hear from you.
	We've got some selections, multiple ones from McDonald's and elsewhere.
	But what's your favorite moment of the last 12 months?
	And...
	Since we're still in the season of Christmas until the 12th night, don't forget, if you promised yourself that you'd support the incredible Prison Fellowship Program and things got away from you and you didn't make a donation to the program that provides Christmas gifts to the children of incarcerated Americans, it's not too late to make a difference.
	The program goes through the whole year.
	It supports the summer camps as well for these very vulnerable girls and boys.
	Until midnight tonight, you can make a donation.
	It is tax-deductible.
	Just go to my website, sebgorka.com, and click on the Prison Fellowship Angel Tree banner at the top, or call them up to make a donation.
	The number is 888-206-2794.
	That's 888-206-2794, or just go to sebgorka.com and the Angel Tree banner.
	In prioritizing our guests for the last, what do we have, three days left of my show?
	I wanted to say thank you to those who made it possible, those who stuck with us through thick and thin, through the insanity of the left, and who are true patriots.
	And one of the greatest supporters we've had are the people at the company that make my cell phone service possible and who make sure that the profits that accrue from my subscription don't go to things like Parenthood order, gun control foundations.
	And that company is, of course, Patriot Mobile, and we are delighted to talk to the man at the top of the pyramid.
	He couldn't avoid me.
	I bugged him relentlessly.
	The CEO of Patriot Mobile.
	Glenn Story, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
	Well, Seb, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your team and your family.
	You know what a great time of year it is.
	It is a superb time of year.
	It's a time to give thanks and to also be excited for the future.
	I just want to say something about you and your team, Scott, and somebody from the Salem team who will remain nameless, who is one of your young staff members as well.
	Anywhere I go on this planet that is America First, that is about MAGA, that is about patriotism, whether it's CPAC, whether it's SHOT Show, whether it's AmFest last weekend in Phoenix, you are there.
	You don't just send people.
	You're there with your Deputy Scott.
	You're there with your team.
	So you are serious about America First.
	Your phone service is the only Christian conservative cell phone company in America.
	Will you talk to us about...
	What is it like to not just be a businessman, but to be a businessman who wears his patriotism and his faith on his sleeve, Glenn?
	You know, I think it's what we're commanded to do.
	Those of us that believe are to really stand on the proverbial street corner and share our faith and our love.
	But at the end of the day, I think when you incorporate God into your business, it really changes the scope of it.
	And, you know, anytime I stand on stage, I like to say, you know, that God is at the helm of our business and we're his stewards.
	And when you really profess your faith, it flows down through your business.
	And I would just like to say that, you know, You walk through our business.
	You've been here.
	It is a different world.
	I mean, you walk in, you feel this warmth, and you know it's God moving through the folks that are here, the families of the folks that are here, etc.
	I would really like to just say, look, put him first and it'll impact your business in such a positive way.
	I don't want to avoid unpleasant issues as well.
	We know the left will do whatever it takes.
	We've seen what they've done to President Trump.
	How have you dealt with the downsides of it, the attacks, the labeling, the smears?
	What has that experience been like for you and the Patriot Mobile team?
	You're probably not going to believe it, but it just does worlds of good for us.
	To circle back around very quickly, you asked, why are you always at these shows?
	Well, we believe in patriotism.
	We believe in supporting our fellow right-winged God-loving patriots.
	And so we attend every show.
	And I'm not just talking about our staff.
	Yes, we have staff that come by and attend our shows, but at the end of the day, 15 to 20 of us show up.
	We like to go and do everything that we can.
	And you ask, you know, what has the left done for us?
	Well, look, every time they say something bad about us, our Phones ring off the wall.
	Our website traffic increases.
	It's really a blessing.
	As a matter of fact, I'm looking at my screen right now and I have a window.
	And out on that window, about once a month, we get a couple of protesters.
	The real beauty of it is, you know, last summer I walked out and offered him four or five bottles of water.
	I said, dude, it's 105 degrees out here.
	Why don't you take some water?
	And he ignored me for a little bit and then You know, he started grumpily mumbling at me like most liberals do, you know, they don't know how to speak coherently when it comes to patriotism and the Trump movement.
	But anyway, he goes, you know, get out of here, you know, and I said, well, look, I love when you're here.
	I love that you have the freedom of the right to protest, the right to speak, the right to vote.
	And I said, I even love the Second Amendment and I know you don't like it.
	He shows me his gun, you know, He goes like this, shows me his gun, and I said, oh, even great, you and I have more in common.
	And by the way, every time you hear, our phones ring two or three times more than normal.
	And he was like, ugh!
	And he storms off.
	And now he's a subscriber to Patriot Mobile, right?
	Yeah, right.
	Yeah, right.
	Now he's on the payroll for Soros.
	We know who he is.
	We did some research.
	This guy's a full-fledged communist.
	All right.
	So what are the plans for the future?
	More growth?
	I want to stay in touch with you when we're in the White House.
	It looks to me from what you've been telling me that it's just an upward trajectory for patriots who don't want to fund left-wing companies with their cell phones.
	Yeah, really.
	We sell cell phone service, right?
	We sell cell phones and cell phone service.
	But at the end of the day, The real beauty is we're not selling something you don't already have.
	We're just asking you to support organizations like ours where we buy wholesale from the major carriers, we repackage it and sell at retail.
	And the real beauty of it is if you get coverage today, we can provide coverage to you tomorrow.
	And the real beauty is when you call, you speak to somebody here in the U.S., Either California or Tyler, Texas or out in East Texas.
	And the backside of it is, you know, you're supporting causes that align with your customer base.
	It's just like the name Patriot Mobile.
	It is that simple.
	Join a company today.
	You've got a phone already, but join a company that's on your side and loves America as much as you do.
	I want to say thank you to you, Glenn, to the whole team, Scott, for being such friends and such supporters.
	Switch today.
	You know it makes sense.
	PatriotMobile.com.
	Follow him at Glenn P. Story on Twitter.
	Thank you, Glenn.
	God bless you and the whole team.
	Whilst you're online and you're picking your new service with Patriot Mobile, make sure to give me a follow on all the social media platforms that matter.
	Look for Seb Gorka, Sebastian Gorka, and don't forget my Substack as well.
	Sebastiangorka.substack.com.
	Your calls next year.
	What's your favorite part of the last year?
	833-33-GORKA.
	We did it all in one segment.
	Hey, and I really wanted to tell my favorite part.
	I wanted to give you my favorite part.
	Oh, go ahead.
	We're broadcasting on Rumble.
	What is your favorite moment of the last year, Glenn?
	Well, okay, I'm going to extend that to two or three years.
	My favorite moment when you were standing on stage at CPAC, you went like this.
	You went, I am so...
	Plastered mad that I am never, ever, ever going to use a major carrier again.
	As a matter of fact, I'm walking to the Patriot Mobile desk right now at their booth.
	As soon as I finish speaking, because I trust them, I love them, I've been working with them for years, you walked over and it just blew up.
	So that was my favorite moment.
	That's when I had the FedEx envelope in my hand from Verizon who said they were surrendering to Nancy Pelosi.
	Yeah, I'm sure that had an effect, but it had an effect on me as well.
	God bless you.
	And are you free maybe Thursday to talk to my guys?
	I am, yes.
	Yes.
	Because he wants to walk you through the mock-up.
	Yeah, I'm either in D.C. I'm supposed to be up there at some inaugurations, not inaugurations, but some swearing in.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	There's a swearing in.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But isn't that on Friday?
	No, the swearing in for the congressmen and senators are on Thursday, and then dinners are Thursday night, and then some stuff on Friday, too.
	When are you flying in?
	When would you have, like, half an hour on Skype?
	I am...
	Well, here's the two things.
	Now, my friends don't know that I'm thinking about this, but I'm...
	I'm...
	Good.
	Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good.
	Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good.
	Good.
	Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good.
	We'll see you next time.
	Likewise.
	See you, buddy.
	30 seconds.
	Pillow here.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	Come in with eight, and then I'll do pillow.
	Coming with eight.
	You actually have worked at McDonald's now.
	Now I have worked at McDonald's.
	I've now worked for 15 minutes more than Kabbalah.
	Are you going to put this on your resume?
	I've never worked here.
	Why would she lie about something like that?
	I've now been at McDonald's for 15 minutes, and I've worked longer at McDonald's than Kamala ever has.
	There's so many gems just from that one visit of President Trump's, but we want to celebrate so many other things in the last 12 months.
	I want you to chime in.
	What is your favorite moment from 2024?
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	Kate!
	God bless you.
	I am so glad that I get to speak to you before you go back to where you belong.
	Thank you kindly.
	I wish you Godspeed, good luck.
	I am so excited, so happy, so content about where you're going and that you're joining our president's team.
	I had no doubt you'd be there.
	I'm not going to miss you because I hope I hear you again.
	I never knew who you were except from hearing, you know, your press conferences and your comments and learning from you.
	But when you got your show, I was thrilled, and it's been wonderful having you here.
	It's a blessing.
	I have to thank you for something else and tell you one other great thing, but you did something wonderful that just made my day.
	I still tell my friends about it, and they marvel.
	Do you remember that horrible accident in East Palestine where the train derailed and those people were left with no one from the White House doing anything for them?
	Yeah, I do.
	Everybody was so—we were just like, how can we help these people?
	How can there be no one going?
	In my frustration, I told my friend Anne, who listens to me all the time, and I said, I'm going to call Seb Gorka.
	And I called you, and I just said, Seb, I'm so frustrated.
	I'm praying for these people.
	I don't know what to do, but could you possibly maybe talk to the president?
	He's got to have tons of water, you know, with all of his hotels and golf clubs.
	Could you possibly just maybe make a suggestion somehow and ask him if he could?
	And you interrupted and you said, I just texted him.
	And within two days he arrived with a pallet, pallets, trucks of water.
	But in addition to that, watching him just talk to people, to a mayor who had been ignored, to talking to the people, to walking the town, seeing the disaster, to seeing the hope restored, you made me feel like a rock star.
	I don't take credit.
	I have no doubt it was in his plans anyway.
	But that's what you do with a million other things.
	You don't know how you touch people.
	And it just made my day.
	But you know the best day that I've had this past year was the moment that he was declared the winner.
	First time he won.
	I screeched.
	I was with two other friends.
	You know, we were just dancing and happy and crying with tears.
	This time it was such a peace, and I tell you literally, it's been such a despairing, you know, hopelessness.
	not hopelessness, because I have great faith in God and I know he's got a plan, but I felt such peace saying our country is back to normalcy, to honor, to tradition, to law, and I trust this president so implicitly.
	I ignore everybody who has anything nasty to say because they will try to destroy him, but when I see the team, I am so confident, I'm so happy because of the good he will do, his strength, and because of the joy that he does it with, you know, he probably won't be driving garbage and because of the joy that he does it with, you know, he probably won't be driving garbage But he does everything with such joy to have him there.
	For example, when we're celebrating our 250th anniversary, God is awfully, awfully good.
	And to see this team I've got to tell you, it's literally the answer to a prayer, and it has restored my faith in the American people who I despaired were just stupid or didn't care.
	You know, it has been such a blessing.
	Yeah, you know, it's so funny, Kate, that you call in because I'd completely forgotten about that original call.
	And Jeff, that did happen, right?
	I haven't gone full Biden.
	I have this hazy recollection of Kate calling in and saying we've got to get water to the people of East Palestine.
	I'm sure it happened.
	I know it happened.
	I'm in the same place as you, Kate, that it was so easy to think, oh my gosh, do people really not care?
	Have they all been brainwashed?
	And then you see what happens.
	I think we have to get the cut.
	We'll celebrate with Lord Black.
	We have to get the cut of President Trump announcing his victory and his victory.
	Kate, stay on the line.
	That was such a thoughtful and beautiful call.
	Kate gets to pick whatever she wants from the website, from the Seb Gorka store website.
	So stay on the line, don't go anywhere, and we will get your order and we will ship it to you, whatever you want from the website.
	Your calls are flooding in.
	The number is 833-333-Gorka.
	That's 833-334-6752.
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	I got the cut of Trump declaring victory.
	Good, we'll use that with...
	Lord Black.
	Lord Black.
	Yeah, it's just over a minute long.
	Mm-hmm.
	Alrighty.
	Just need titles for story and gates.
	Come in with 15. 15, oh yes.
	God makes your business better.
	Mm-hmm.
	And then gates.
	Yep.
	Matt Gates, Mark 2.0.
	Say again, Matt Gates?
	Matt Gates, colon, on a new mission.
	On a new mission, okay.
	Are we going to screen call two?
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, he's doing something though.
	Okay.
	One minute.
	Mmhmm.
	Come at 15.
	our emcee this evening, Jim Gaffigan.
	Most recently, Jim has been playing Tim Walsh on Saturday Night Live.
	And that'll be a very short gig, I hope, Jim.
	But it was fun while it lasted, wasn't it?
	Let's see how that lasts.
	It better be quick.
	We don't want him, and I'm not going to stay anymore.
	But unfortunately, Governor Walz is in here himself, but don't worry, he'll say that he was.
	He's going to say he was.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Congratulations to the man who wrote that speech, the Al Smith speech for the president.
	He's a friend.
	I'm not going to burn him in public now, but that was really quite good.
	Can you play that as B-roll in the background?
	I mean, just, guys, look.
	Look at Chuck Schumer.
	It's just so flipping creepy.
	Unbelievable.
	Eric, what is wrong with Chuck Schumer?
	I mean, he is Gollum.
	He's frozen in place.
	He's a statue.
	But like this?
	He's like Gollum!
	What is that?
	Goodness.
	He's just seething because he knows how funny these jokes are.
	And he knows that people are loving this.
	And again, remember, Kamala wasn't here for this.
	Kamala didn't show up.
	No!
	Right!
	So Trump got to steal the whole show.
	That's why he's so mad.
	Oh, so crazy.
	I didn't even mention it while he was on.
	I said thank you to him.
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	Let's go to Rex in Oregon!
	Yes.
	Good morning.
	Good afternoon.
	Well, I live in Salem, Oregon, so I thought, wow, it's here on my TV, Salem, and I love it.
	Good.
	I love listening to you this year, too.
	All the interviews that you've done and all the Various people you brought on.
	Kate, that you just had on.
	She was absolutely wonderful and very heartfelt.
	What a great call.
	What a great call.
	What else would you like to talk about, Rex?
	Well, a couple of my favorite interviews that you did, the former Secretary of Veterans Affairs.
	I don't know, between you two, you have Wonderful chemistry and amazing history.
	He is such...
	Robert Wilkie is such an educated...
	He's like a Renaissance man.
	I don't think there's a topic of import that Secretary Wilkie can't opine on for hours.
	Such an educated man.
	What a vessel to have on your team.
	It's just amazing when I see it, though.
	And every time I listen to the two of you, I... I found I was learning something, and I'm only 70 now.
	Oh, a young man.
	Jeff, we're going to have Secretary Wilkie on for one more hour-long discussion before we hand over, correct?
	Monday.
	Superb, superb.
	Who else did you enjoy, Rex?
	Just going through this morning, I was watching the McDonald's segment.
	I'd forgotten all about that.
	And then Kate had mentioned Trump on the garbage trucks.
	Yes.
	And I felt that was very appropriate with all the stuff that he has to deal with.
	And he's going to be taking out the trash big time on January 20th.
	Thank you, Rex.
	Hardly agree.
	Could speak for hours every day with Secretary Wilkie.
	Thank you for your kind comments.
	Let's go to Lynn in Ohio.
	Hi.
	Hey.
	Hey.
	I'm a brand-new viewer, and I was saying that I enjoyed getting to know you and all of the other people that do the different conservative channels, and it's just been wonderful being a part of it, even though it's just been a part now.
	But I'm a supporter.
	I take care of my mom and my uncle, so I didn't get to get out there in March, but I have every sign on my front lawn that Trump can have set out, and I even pulled out one from 2020 and put 2024 on it.
	Love it.
	Love it.
	I'm a veteran, and we just love all of this.
	We know you're going to do a good job in the White House with President Trump, and we're supporting you as best we can here in Ohio.
	I love also your lady from our town down here in Palestine, Ohio.
	Without you guys, we would feel definitely left outside the box.
	You're so very, very kind.
	Thank you for your support for the President, Lynn.
	It's people like you that made that incredible victory possible.
	Let's stay with the ladies.
	It's Ladies Day today.
	Let's go to Esther in Arizona.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	Congratulations.
	I'm so happy that you're going to the White House.
	Not happy you're leaving the radio, however.
	I am a fellow Hungarian, and I want to give you a quick rundown of what a Hungarian is.
	There is a theory that explains them perfectly.
	A theory that says they are not natives of Earth at all, but were quietly deposited here many generations ago as colonists from a superior civilization on another planet.
	This would seem ridiculous, of course, were it not for the intriguing facts.
	The Hungarian language has no resemblance to that of any nation around it, nor any other on Earth.
	Second, Hungarians are all very intelligent.
	Third, Hungarians possess an almost superhuman egocentricity.
	Think about it.
	When did you last encounter a dull, humble Hungarian?
	That's a very good point.
	I'd be happy to send you a copy if somebody will give me your address.
	All right.
	That's very kind of you.
	I think I've heard this theory before that Hungarians are from Mars.
	And it is true.
	Their language is not cognate with any other language.
	It is part of the Finna Ugric family, but that's kind of irrelevant because we can't communicate with the Finns.
	We can't communicate with the Turks.
	We have a few words that we share.
	After their 150-year occupation of Hungary.
	So yeah, and in fact, there is no one today, there are competing theories, but there is no one who can tell you where the Hungarians came from.
	They think somewhere from the east, some say Korea, some say, you know, Mongolia.
	Nobody knows.
	How is it possible that nobody knows where this nation of just 10 million people came from?
	Is it from outer space?
	Hmm, maybe.
	Thank you for your great calls.
	We shall continue.
	Thank you, Esther.
	Stay on the line, and you'll get our mailing address to here in the studio.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Can we get the clip, Jeff, from the President's acceptance speech?
	Thank you.
	The victory speech?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I got that.
	Okay, good.
	Yeah, it's a minute six long.
	where he talks about winning the popular vote.
	Thank you.
	Five seconds.
	Can we do something else here?
	I might tease something out, but if you've got calls coming in.
	Okay.
	We do.
	Yeah.
	30 seconds.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Oh, there he is.
	There's my guy.
	Good job.
	How's your new show going?
	Good?
	Very well, thank you.
	I heard good.
	Thank you.
	Yes, indeed.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	And to our caller, celebrating our amazing interviews, or rather discussions with Secretary Wilkie, he was on point.
	He was on form regarding what happens with one of our foes on January the 20th, Secretary Robert Wilkie, on President Trump and that former KGB colonel.
	Cut five.
	The Russians, I think, are dealing from a position of weakness.
	They know What's going to happen on day one?
	And Kelly mentioned it in the previous segment.
	Donald Trump's going to open the energy spigots in the United States.
	The Russian economy is already reeling, but it has survived because of Joe Biden and his disastrous energy policies that have driven oil to $100 a barrel.
	When Donald Trump comes in, we'll see those numbers plummet to $40, $35 a barrel, and we'll tank the Russian economy.
	On top of that, Putin is losing between 1,700 and 2,000 soldiers a day.
	This is something that his economy and his nation can't sustain.
	He's bluffed his way past Joe Biden.
	He's not going to be able to bluff his way past Donald Trump.
	And that's what the Russians are dealing with right now.
	They're really in the mode of trying to save face.
	They're not going to be able to bluff their way out of this one with President Trump.
	Secretary Wilkie absolutely on point.
	We'll have a whole hour with him on Monday, my last show.
	Let's go to Ron, South Carolina, line two.
	Hey, Seb Gorka.
	Hello.
	Happy New Year.
	Happy New Year.
	Thank you, sir.
	I just wanted to let you know what my favorite moment of this past year was.
	And I was so excited when Trump returned to Butler, Pennsylvania.
	Yes.
	And I actually got to see Elon Musk run out there, all excited, jumping up and down, all excited, and just saying...
	How proud he is to endorse President Trump as president.
	And I was just so amazed to see something like that happen and the excitement That Trump had and the crowd had when he returned to Butler.
	Yeah, and you're so accurate with that.
	I was actually there in the second row, and it was something special from the Ave Maria rendition by the opera singer who was paying tribute to chief comparator to Elon Musk saying, what kind of president do you want?
	You want a man who gets shot and then says, fight, fight, fight.
	Yeah, we'll ask Lord Black.
	Was that the most important event?
	What was his favorite?
	Thank you, Ron!
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	Thank you.
	Hello, Lord Black.
	Can you hear us?
	I hear you, yeah.
	I don't see you.
	Okay, yeah.
	Are you able to enable your video for us?
	It says currently not enabled.
	Just a second.
	Here we go.
	There we go.
	Yes, we've got you now.
	Perfect.
	How's that?
	If you could adjust the camera down for a little bit less headroom, if that's possible.
	Yep.
	Perfect.
	Thank you, Lord Black.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Lord.
	You got me, Eric?
	Yep, got you.
	Much to discuss on our final conversation, Lord Black.
	Well, of the year, you're soldiering on, aren't you?
	No, I'm done.
	I'm done.
	Monday is my last episode, and then I prepare for January the 20th.
	This is it.
	This is our last discussion.
	Okay, well...
	I'm sorry to hear that.
	Who's going to take your place?
	Hugh Hewitt is stealing my slot because he doesn't want to get up in the morning anymore.
	Is that the guy in Texas?
	No, no, no.
	He's here.
	He's the guy who runs the Nixon Center, Hugh Hewitt.
	Oh, Hugh Hewitt.
	Yeah, sure, sure.
	Of course, I've often seen him on television.
	Yeah, he has the six to nine slot and he wants to steal the afternoon slot.
	Does he want me to stay or not?
	Oh, that's a good question.
	I'm sure he's a fan.
	Let me broach it with him.
	Yeah, well, I guess if he wants me, he'll tell me.
	But you're in principle interested if he says yes?
	Yeah, sure.
	Good.
	But he may have other ideas, so I'm not...
	Well, we've got to keep my audience happy, so he's well advised to keep our favorites on.
	Okay, well...
	Tell him I would be happy if you...
	I will, I will.
	I'll tell him today.
	I'll tell him today.
	I'm happy to do it, but I'm not asking for anything.
	Good.
	All right.
	60 seconds.
	60 seconds.
	So you said you want to play that clip of Trump victory speech here?
	No.
	Well, at some point, yes.
	But first we're going to do the Al Smith.
	Oh, yes.
	Cut 16. And then I'm going to ask what his favorite moment is.
	And then I want to broach Carter.
	All right.
	Come in with 16. And then...
	Yep.
	Favorite moments.
	30 seconds. 30 seconds. 30 seconds.
	30 seconds.
	Chuck Schumer is here looking very glum.
	Disney looks glum.
	But look on the bright side, Chuck, considering how woke your party has become.
	If Kamala loses, you still have a chance to become the first woman president.
	I mean, truly, he's a statesman, he's a billionaire businessman, and he's also a comedian.
	What an incredible performance at the Al Smith Dinner.
	We have so many cuts here.
	We're going through the best moments of 2024. I'm going to ask our regular guest what he puts at the top of that list momentarily after we've given him time to cogitate on it, to ruminate on it.
	But it is our last discussion with one of, well, I know he's your favorite.
	He's definitely one of my top favorites, along with VDH and the president himself.
	I'll be sad to miss our weekly discussions with the author, most recently, of the seminal work, The Political and Strategic History of the World, Volume 1, Lord Conrad Black.
	Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
	Same to you, Sebastian.
	I'll miss you, too.
	Anyway, I know all your viewers will wish you every success in the White House.
	You're one of the trustees of our hopes, so good luck to you.
	Well, thank you kindly.
	It is the dream job after a quarter of a century of analyzing and teaching about terrorism to actually be running that portfolio for my former boss and my future boss.
	I'm going to ask you what the highlights of the year were for you.
	But before we get to that, given that you are a historian of repute and you've written numerous works on American presidents, what is the right context?
	To put this man in, this is, of course, Jimmy Carter, who passed at the age of 100. We have a very strange interpretation from the erstwhile Democrat strategist James Carville, who seems to think we owe peace in the Middle East to Jimmy Carter.
	This is Cut One.
	Well, pick up the paper.
	What do you read about it?
	The Middle East?
	There's no war.
	No one in Egypt and Israel is shooting anybody.
	Why?
	Because of President Carter.
	Now, Trump has started this idiotic Panama Canal thing that will go nowhere.
	We forget that President Carter did this.
	If you fly, it was President Carter that deregulated the airlines.
	If you get goods by trucking, it was President Carter that deregulated the trucking industry.
	Now, I think it's just become too convenient a thing for people to say, well, He was just an okay president, but he was a great man.
	He was actually a very significant president.
	He started the military buildup.
	Everybody remembers that Reagan was the guy that had the military buildup that contributed to the end of the Cold War.
	He was actually started under Carter.
	Things that were left out there, including the Iranian hostage debacle, the price of oil, the oil crisis, the malaise in the economy.
	Between the two extremes, how will history look on the one-term presidency of Jimmy Carter, Lord Black?
	I think—look, I hate to be ungenerous to a person who has died and was a sincere man who Who was, I think, something of a pioneer in the civil rights movement.
	I remember when he was elected governor of Georgia, he got national attention by saying that he would accelerate the decline of segregation.
	He had his good points, without doubt, but I don't think he was a good president because he was too subject to changing his mind.
	And I don't think he was quite as virtuous as he pretended.
	The thing that sticks in my mind is during the hostage crisis, the Iranian president made a speech.
	And the next morning, very first thing in the morning, President Carter issued a statement saying that he had in his speech made very significant conciliatory statements.
	And he was going to follow up on this.
	And that was a primary day.
	They have a primary when he was being challenged, as you recall, by Senator Ted Kennedy.
	And the real translation didn't come through for another day.
	And when it did, there were no conciliatory references in the speech at all.
	It was complete fraud, what the president said.
	I never thought that he was quite as Quite as virtuous as he pretended and as his supporters said.
	Now, as to Carville, I mean, I certainly think we all would give President Carter great credit for the Camp David Agreement, but he was the one more than anyone else who pushed the Shah out.
	And the Shah was the best ruler Iran has ever had and certainly the best ally the West has ever had in Iran.
	And I think that blotted President Carter's record.
	And yes, he started a defense buildup, but that was after he was completely blindsided by the Russian occupation of Afghanistan.
	I mean, he had his moments, and he meant well.
	And in any case, we should all honor the dead, and especially those who have held such great office.
	But the fact is, he was not an effective president, and that's why he was not reelected.
	Let's talk about the year in review.
	There are so many moments to choose from in terms of heartwarming and favorite moments.
	I'm curious what for you stick out.
	I'm going to pick my most underrated significant moment.
	We've played several clips today from the president's visit to that Pennsylvania McDonald's.
	And people talk about the apron and the French fry stand and everything else.
	And I've worked longer in McDonald's than McDonald's.
	You know, Kamala Harris ever has.
	But for me, this upcoming clip, and you've got to turn the volume up a little bit, is really one of the most heartwarming, touching moments, because it's not about retail politics.
	It's not scripted.
	There's no teleprompter.
	There's no cue cards.
	It's his response to the wife.
	They're both from the Indian subcontinent.
	You can tell from their accents.
	But an Indian family pulls up to the takeout window.
	He hands over the food.
	And what the woman says To the leader of the opposition, soon to be the president-elect, and his response for me was truly my favorite moment.
	This is cut-tent President Trump at that Pennsylvania McDonald's.
	I could do this all day.
	I wouldn't mind this job.
	I like this job.
	I think I might come back and do it again.
	Thank you.
	Look at that.
	Look at that.
	How are you?
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	You made it possible for ordinary people like us to meet you.
	You're not ordinary.
	I mean, thank you so much.
	I can see.
	We pray for you, and you are the type of person we want to be the president.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you for taking the bullet.
	Thank you very much.
	When you think about it, I guess that's all.
	Thank you very much.
	So the first part when he says, thank you for doing this for us ordinary people, he said nobody's ordinary.
	But then when the wife says, thank you for taking a bullet for us, and then there's this pause and he says, I guess I took a bullet for you.
	For me, that was, I think, my favorite moment of the year, Lord Black.
	I have to say mine was when it was confirmed that Pennsylvania had voted for him and he had been elected.
	Re-elected President of the United States.
	But in terms of an amusing moment, there have been many of them.
	I thought when President Biden referred to his followers as garbage and he kitted himself out as a garbage truck driver, that was brilliant.
	But my absolute favorite in that category was just one of these ex...
	Posts.
	It used to be a tweet, whatever you call an ex-tweet.
	That he sent out on the issue of the drones in the northeastern states, and there was a picture of Chris Christie munching a hamburger, and behind him were these drones approaching with Big Macs, and it just struck me as Indicative of his hilarious sense of humor.
	Not necessarily presidential, but part of the secret of why he's so successful as a politician.
	Very amusing and not nasty.
	I don't think Christie necessarily would have found it funny, but it wasn't nasty.
	Christie had called him Donald Duck and all this stuff.
	I thought it was just an amusing, good-humored Return of American politics to get a little fun in it, you know?
	We backed off that era of hurling thunderbolts at everybody in every direction and could at least get a laugh out of some of it, you know?
	So I thought it was a nice touch.
	Let's play one more from that McDonald's when President Trump is at the Fry Station shucking those fries into that carton.
	This is Cut Savin'.
	Nice and clean.
	Of course, my hands are nice and clean.
	This guy's a good instructor.
	I appreciate it.
	I'm going to give a really big one so that they're just pouring out.
	How good is that, Margo?
	Here, Margo, have them.
	Marco is a carton full of french fries.
	Just absolutely superlative.
	He's the author of the book.
	You've got to get it right now.
	It is The Political and Strategic History of the World, Volume 1, From Antiquity to the Caesars 14 Anno Domini.
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	in the next four years and what to expect with Lord Black after these messages.
	I'm coming with the orange best, coming with 14, then I'll do angel tree, and then we'll talk about the years ahead of the president, and then we'll talk about the years ahead of the president, Okay.
	When are you planning your next trip to the East Coast?
	Well, I guess to the inauguration.
	I'm informed that my wife and I are judged to be family and friends, so I guess that will be it.
	Good, excellent.
	Hopefully we can see you on the margins of that great event.
	I'll send you an email when I know exactly what our plans are.
	You must be in full preparation, are you?
	Yeah, I'm actually going to my first official meeting with my Biden counterpart this Friday, so I'll be going to the NSC to have a very peculiar discussion with the current incumbent for counterterrorism.
	Who is that?
	Just some woman.
	She has no social media presence.
	I presume she's at the CIA. I see.
	But everyone's cooperating, right?
	I mean, at least the transition's going in a civilized way?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Civilized, civilized.
	We'll see what happens when we put in our requests for documents on Friday and whether they actually comply.
	So that will be interesting.
	Yeah, well, you know, that clip you ran from Carville reminded me What an appalling blowhard that guy is.
	Oh, he's the worst.
	He holds forth on things he doesn't know anything about, you know?
	No.
	And he looks like a homeless man.
	Yes, yes, a bum.
	Is his wife still a Republican?
	Um, I don't know, because she's not been in the limelight for some time.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You know, they were a funny pair in their day, but...
	Anyway.
	We'd love to have you over for dinner if you arrive a little bit early.
	When were you thinking of coming?
	That's very kind of you.
	I haven't really started planning it yet, but we'll be working it out next week.
	Good, good, good, good.
	No, I'd like to do that.
	It's certainly remarkable.
	And I guess this has been much commented on, but, you know, like you, I've seen a good many changes of administration over the years, going back to Eisenhower and Kennedy, and I have never seen the incoming president take charge of so much before he was inaugurated.
	I mean, just the number of ambassadors that usually we wouldn't get to for months after the inauguration is stunning.
	And these changes that the Mexican president has made over the border, where they The penetration of the border has been, as I understand it, reduced by 90% because of actions the Mexican president has made because the incoming American president has requested them.
	Well, and I think this is one of the genius moves that they said to Tom Homan, you know, we want you coming out of the taps on every media channel.
	I mean, Tom Homan's media blitz is turning whole caravans around already.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and these attempts to attack him in a few circles have been a total failure, as they deserve to be.
	Thank you, Barry.
	Stand back.
	Thank you.
	I got in the car, and I'm driving over here, and I have this still on, and I come into the arena, and I say, where's my jacket?
	I want to get out of this thing.
	And they said, it would be unbelievable if you could wear it on stage.
	I said, "No way." I got 25,000 people standing outside.
	I got all these people here.
	There's no way I'm wearing it on stage.
	They said, oh, okay, sir.
	I said, get me my jacket.
	But if you did, you know, it actually makes you look thinner.
	I said...
	And they got me.
	I said, I want to wear it on stage.
	When they said I look thinner, I said, in that case...
	I'll wear it right now.
	I may never wear a blue jacket again.
	I may go in this.
	I said that.
	That was the word.
	That was the key.
	Sir, you look thinner.
	So anyways.
	And they got me when they said I look thinner.
	I may never wear a blue jacket again.
	Oh my gosh.
	Truly stunning.
	Truly stunning.
	The Grand Rapids rally with President Trump after the garbage truck moment, which now I can talk openly about it because the president just posted about it today.
	The individual who was responsible for that, who actually got that dump truck, that garbage truck within 30 minutes, Justin Caporell, recognized by the president today.
	Genius.
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	We're back with the co-host of the podcast, Scholars in Sense, with Victor Davis Hanson and Bill Bennett, reminiscing over the last 12 months and what to expect in the next four years for President Trump.
	You've written works on numerous presidents, Lord Black, We were talking in the break.
	Maybe I'm too close to it as one of the nominees for the NSC, for the National Security Council, but the alacrity, the speed, the quantity of nominations that are occurring, the reactions already from other heads of states, other governments, it's truly remarkable, isn't it, the rate of knots that President Trump's already functioning at?
	It is.
	It is, I think, certainly the fastest production of nominees to the positions requiring Senate approval in all my time, which, as I say, the first transition I witnessed closely as an observer watching television and reading the press was President Eisenhower to President Kennedy in 1960-61.
	And, you know, most of them have been quite professionally done, but here they...
	They just came out of the gate like a fire horse announcing these people.
	And apart from the gates business, they've all proceeded.
	As of now, they all look like they'll be confirmed.
	And it's not only the swiftness that these people have been produced, but the novelty of many of them.
	I mean, it's been a very fine, to me anyway, a very fine combination of putting plausible people in With fulfilling the mandate and the promise of change.
	And I mean, I think this health and human services group is indicative of that.
	Marty McCary and that man, I never quite get his name right, the man from the Indian subcarsis.
	Bhattacharya from Stanford?
	Yeah, that's it.
	But those two in the key posts under Robert Kennedy Jr. is just a very interesting combination.
	No one can question The talent and track record of the two senior people that have been put forward in the department.
	And while there is some controversy about Robert Kennedy, I think it's all set up that the reforming and unquestioned qualifications of the other two can be counted upon to be a force of stability and reform.
	And that will enable, this is the idea, and who's to say it won't happen, I think we should give it the benefit of any doubt, that the reforming ideas of Robert Kennedy will be given a good play, and those areas that might cause some people to wonder about him will be offset by this high level of professionalism in the ranks immediately beneath himself.
	It just looks like a very well-thought-out combination.
	You know, I'd say the same, some of the departments that I'm a bit familiar with in those also.
	I mean, in defense, I mean, Hegseth is a soldier's man, but Feinberg, I mean, in my dealings with the Cerberus Company, I was never, frankly, particularly, they weren't very satisfactory dealings, but he obviously is a very capable businessman.
	And so I think he, I think the president-elect, president-president-elect has Put a lot of thought into this, and in the same measure that he was scrambling as a newcomer to Washington eight years ago, this time he'd given a great deal of thought.
	We only have about a minute left with one of our favorite guests.
	Please get his book right now, The Political and Strategic History of the World, Volume 1. Lord Black, your projection, what is the biggest challenge President Trump will face?
	Is it going to be a very slim margin in the House?
	Is it identifying all the malefactors who've been Let into the country in the last four years.
	What do you think will be the toughest challenge?
	I think because of the narrow margin in the House, I was delighted to see him emphatically endorse the Speaker.
	I agree.
	I think Speaker Johnson has performed with great distinction in the difficult situation.
	Just to get that majority, I assume the congressmen who moved into appointed positions will be replaced by Republicans, so the margin in the House will rise a little bit.
	But it's not going to be like falling off a log, getting a majority for some of the Things they want to do, the continued election reform, for example.
	But it's a technical matter, and they're clearly focused on it.
	And I'm optimistic.
	I think we're going to have a fine reform government, but not an absurd or amateurish or kind of wild government.
	I think it'll be carefully thought out, presented in sequence, And in some respects, not the ideological tenor of it, but the manner of moving these measures through and keeping public support for them, it'll be somewhat reminiscent to those who have studied the period of the first hundred days of Franklin Roosevelt,
	where he came into a collapsed economy in a country that was psychologically shattered and rebuilt it in three months with a comprehensive program of We will be recommending that our weekly meetings with Lord Black continue with Hugh Hewitt.
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	Well, Sebastian, I started out to try and do it in public and didn't succeed, but I know all your collaborators I started out to try and do it in public and didn't succeed, but I know all your collaborators and viewers wish I look forward to our next meeting, even if it's a slightly different forum.
	Well, hopefully we'll be in person in a couple of weeks' time.
	Happy New Year, Conrad, and thank you for all your support over the years.
	Not a bit.
	Thank you, Sebastian.
	Thank you.
	No, we're not going to do regular guests on Monday.
	We're just going to do something special, I think.
	All right, so...
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	We can save that till the end.
	Come in with 11, and then we'll go to calls.
	Come with 11, and I'll do the pillar.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	President Trump's biggest challenge.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah.
	A friend of mine just found this t-shirt at an event.
	I don't know if...
	Bitch, I'm the president.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I've seen that one.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	We should buy one for Hugh.
	Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
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	Of course, it is G-O-R-K-A. Favorite moments?
	Let's go to Steve in Phoenix.
	Steve, what's your favorite moment?
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	This is my first time calling your show, by the way, and I just want to wish you the best with President Trump's administration.
	I know loyalty was one of the things that he was missing the last time, and I look at you as being one of the most loyal people that I could think of going into his administration, so I thank you for that.
	Thank you.
	What's your favorite moment, Steve?
	Favorite moment?
	This was kind of a small moment, I guess, but I Do you remember when Mark Cuban made the comment towards the end of the campaign about Trump not having smart women around him?
	He's afraid of smart, strong women.
	Three of smart, strong women, yes.
	And his comment back just had me on the floor laughing when he said, you know, when someone asked him about Cuban's comment and President Trump said, well, you know, yeah, I know Mark Cuban.
	I played golf with him.
	He's not a good golfer.
	He has no club head speed.
	And they're just...
	It just was like, in my mind it was a genius comment back to a very And he was so roasted by not just President Trump, everyone else for that stupid comment, including by amazing strong warriors like Alina Haber and others who are coming into the administration.
	Thank you, Steve.
	Thank you for that great reminder of an incredible moment I'd forgotten.
	Let's go to Joe in Orange County.
	What's your favorite moment, Joe?
	Yes, Dr. Gorka, two days.
	Yes, my favorite moment was when he stood up after being shot saying, fight, fight, fight.
	Yes, yes.
	We will be playing that before we finish today's show.
	Absolutely on the money.
	Sorry, what was that?
	Was that for me, Jeff?
	Okay, let's go to...
	Oh, on Carville, Darren, Minnesota.
	Hello, Dr. Gorka.
	Hi, you want to comment on that little clip we played of James Carville?
	Well, what I want to say is I think a prerequisite to being a Democrat is you're a pathological liar.
	I can tell you, I have research in school even we went through.
	In the 70s, Iran was a very free country.
	People loved it.
	They had a beautiful life.
	Just look at the photographs from Iran before 1979. What an incredible country.
	Exactly.
	But Jimmy Carter promised support, even militarily, for the Shah against the radical Muslims.
	And what did he do?
	He backed down and didn't help him at all.
	And that forced the Shah to go into exile, and radical Islam took over Iran.
	So all the problems we're having today, James Carville, you should know this if I do, Is directly related back to Jimmy Carter.
	No, I think you're absolutely right.
	The fact that they're trying to paint him as some kind of success.
	People forget, Darren, you couldn't buy gas in America unless you had the right last digit on your license tag, whether it was odd or evil.
	I remember that.
	Right?
	You know, my favorite moment, if I can say, of my life...
	I can say, well, other than being married, I think, but is when Trump at 830 on Central Standard Time on November when we were voting, I counted them.
	I'm like, she can't win.
	There's no way.
	She has no path to 270. Trump won the election.
	I didn't know he would take all six swing states and the popular vote by 4 million.
	But I literally was crying.
	We're going to play that clip for you, Darren, when that moment arose that he won.
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	We'll be back with your calls in a second.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	So you say you want to play the victory cut here?
	Yeah, come in with the victory cut and block calls.
	Okay.
	You can go ahead and block the lines, Paul.
	And then I'll do PhD after the cut and then I'll go to calls.
	PhD after the cut and then calls.
	Yep.
	Any response from Lindell?
	Not yet.
	I'll try them again.
	Do you want me to ask them for Monday, I guess?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Two minutes.
	Two minutes.
	Thank you.
	90 seconds.
	Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
	One minute.
	30. This
	is a magnificent victory for the American people that will allow us to make America great again.
	And in addition to having won the battleground states of North Carolina, I love these places, Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.
	We are now winning in Michigan, Arizona, Nevada, and Alaska, which would result in us carrying at least 315 electoral votes.
	But it's much easier doing what the networks did, or whoever called it, because there was no other path.
	There was no other path to victory.
	We also have won the popular vote.
	That was great.
	We were standing there with thousands of others in the convention center at West Palm Beach.
	It was 2.30 in the morning, and they called it.
	It was unstoppable.
	A freight train 77 million Americans, all of the battleground states.
	Not one county did she get more votes than Biden did.
	Absolutely momentous event and it will presage an amazing four years.
	God bless every single one of you who made it possible.
	I was on the phone with somebody who was not too long ago responsible for all of our special forces and I'm going to talk to him before I go into the White House and he said...
	This is really shocking.
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	Mike in Pennsylvania, what's your favorite moment?
	Good afternoon, Dr. Gorka.
	First of all, I would like to thank you for taking my call.
	I would like to thank you for everything you have done, you are doing, and you will do for our country.
	We're all going to miss you, which, you know, is our loss, but we're going to ultimately, it'll be a net gain, I'm sure, based on what you're rolling into.
	Thank you kindly, Mike.
	My favorite moment, one of my favorite moments was during the debate.
	When Biden was mumbling something in an answer to a question, and then they turned to Donald Trump and they said, you know, what do you think about what he just said?
	And Donald Trump said, point blank, I don't know what he just said, and I don't even think he knows what he said.
	And that was the end of it.
	They just moved on to the next question.
	That was it.
	That was when they realized, nope, Joe's got to go.
	You're absolutely right, Mike.
	Dr. Gergen, can I ask you one other thing?
	Uh-huh.
	So I am a lucky owner of one of your 1911s.
	Oh my gosh, the custom 1911. Okay.
	Have you shot it or is it in still pristine condition?
	Oh dude, it's in pristine condition.
	I'm waiting for a time to fire the thing.
	But it's in pristine condition.
	It's hanging on my mantle right now.
	Nice.
	But how about one with Donald Trump maybe?
	Could one of those be in the offing?
	Yes.
	But it's a Desert Eagle.
	It's not a 1911. It's a Desert Eagle with President Trump and the Fight Fight Fight emblem on it.
	We're about to announce it when we've made the final decision as to who gets to carry it.
	But stay tuned, my friend, and make sure you're following me on all social media when we announce the Carr Firearms MAGA Magnum Desert Eagle.
	It is the Fight Fight Fight Desert Eagle.
	I'll be posting about that imminently.
	Thank you for your kind words, Mike.
	Truly appreciate it.
	Let's go to Sandra in Florida.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	I just wanted to congratulate you on your new position.
	Thank you.
	Our president has made a fantastic choice in choosing you, and I know you're going to make us proud.
	We're going to miss you.
	I'm going to miss you.
	I've never called into your show before, but I wanted to let you know that I have listened to you faithfully for the last four years, and I knew that I could tune in anytime.
	And know that I was going to get the truth and the latest on what was happening in our country from you.
	And I want to thank you for that.
	Well, you're very kind, Sandra.
	I can't believe you waited until almost my last show to call in.
	Stay on the line, Sandra, and we'll gift you a signed copy of The War for America's Soul, my latest book.
	You can get all of my books at sebgorkastore.com.
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	Let's go to Joe in L.A. Hello, Sebastian.
	A couple things.
	My favorite moment, simply, when Mark Zuckerberg looked at his data, looked at his website, and felt that he needed to send a conciliatory letter to Donald Trump, a nice worded letter, a nice send-it-and-a-nice friendly letter.
	That was the moment I knew that tides had turned, when Zuckerberg, who had been working so well with the left, And the current administration saw fit to send Donald Trump a nice letter discussing his newfound cooperation with the administration.
	That's one issue.
	The other issue I was hoping to bring up for you here is whether this falls into your purview, I hope it does.
	Hey, no one—you know, we had an attack on the electrical grid in San Jose, California, recently, and I believe it was this year.
	And this is a terrorism issue.
	This is a dangerous problem we have because a couple of well-placed attacks on our electrical grid could send half the country back into the Stone Ages for a while.
	And I'm hoping that's something you're going to pay attention to.
	I've been told, apparently, according to Dick Morris, it's not even that expensive to defend the electrical grid against bombing.
	Absolute garbage.
	Dick Morris doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
	To actually do this job properly is not going to be cheap, but President Trump understands the threat, and it is, you're absolutely right, a very, very serious threat.
	We have to harden the grid, not just from EMP attacks, but from various sundry sabotage measures.
	But you're absolutely right, Joe.
	But rest assured, come 12.01 on January the 20th, we will finally have people in charge.
	Who are adults, who are professionals, who are patriots.
	From President Trump to National Security Advisor Mike Waltz.
	Think about that.
	A former Green Beret.
	To everyone on the National Security Council.
	To everyone who's running our intelligence communities, the Department of Defense.
	We will be on a mission to make sure every American is safe and can prosper.
	Stay with us here on America First.
	America First What's
	wrong?
	Yeah, come in with that.
	What's the name of that lunatic who used to work for us?
	The female attorney?
	No, that's it.
	No, that's that's it.
	No, that's that's it.
	No, that's that's it.
	What's the worst thing?
	No, no, no, worse than that.
	No, no, no, older.
	I don't know.
	Thank you.
	There's a group called White Dudes for Harris.
	Have you seen this?
	White Dudes for Harris.
	Anybody know?
	Are some of you here?
	White Dudes for Harris.
	Doesn't sound like it.
	But I'm not worried about them at all because their wives and their wives' lovers are all voting for me.
	Every one of those people is voting for me.
	Absolutely stupendous.
	We could fill the whole three hours with clips like that from President Trump on and on and on.
	But we could talk about serious things as well and what's going to happen in the next four years.
	Here's a very simple observation about the Department of Justice after January the 20th from the, what is he, the GOP du jour individual on CNN, Scott Jennings.
	Cut six.
	I also think on the people who work there that prosecuted Trump specifically, you know, with all due respect, you know, Donald Trump is the president-elect.
	He's going to be the president.
	Those people should not be in the federal government while he's the president.
	I mean, if you're the president of the United States, you should not have employees who have been actively trying to throw you in jail.
	I just, common sense to me, they need to find something else to do until there's another administration.
	What a crazy idea that you should have people in the DOJ who have been prosecuting President Trump.
	Rumour has it that they're all resigning very fast and getting attorneys.
	Do we have Brent?
	Is Brent with us in line one or have we lost him?
	I can't see his name on the board.
	Is that Brent?
	Hello, hello?
	Yes!
	Are you there?
	I am.
	Alright, greetings my friend.
	My fine, loyal and lovable friend Sebastian.
	Lovable?
	That's not been used for me very often.
	What would you like to share with us today, O Poet Laureate of America First?
	Well, I will greatly miss our weekly calls.
	And when I first called you over five years ago, I began by saying, I am not worthy.
	But you immediately and graciously assured me that I was indeed worthy.
	And like President Trump and every great leader, you bring out the very best from your family, friends and followers, and fear and trepidation from our nation's enemies.
	I thank God that you and President Trump have been touched and chosen to lead America to do his will.
	And as you righteously redeem our exceptional nation under God, and you humbly and biblically seek global human harmony, I believe you are truly ushering in the messianic age and will blessedly provide for all people of goodwill to avoid the devil's apocalypse.
	I'm not talking about universal human harmony.
	That sounds a little bit globalist to me.
	But as I was asked by the Epoch Times in a recent interview, dear friend, I've got one thing I want to keep before my eyes for my time serving the president in the National Security Council, and that's to protect the innocent.
	And to do justice to evildoers.
	That is my mission.
	In that way, we can protect America and all those who live here.
	Thank you, Brent.
	I will miss our weekly discussions as well.
	Don't forget, you can continue to listen to the really dangerous Gorka every week on her podcast, the Happy Women podcast.
	It's Katie Gorka and Jennifer Horne.
	Real stories every week of heroes and heroines who are pushing back on the lunatic left.
	Wherever you get your podcasts, blowing up on YouTube as well, the Happy Women podcast.
	Next up, a former SEAL who was in the first Trump cabinet and now is returning to Congress, the one and only Ryan Zinke.
	What did you say, Eric? Eric?
	No media, right?
	Okay.
	Thank you.
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	Bobby Lurie, thank you.
	That's perfect.
	Looking live now.
	We're going to show and have a good New Year, Bobby.
	So looking live now, Athens, Greece, where the clock's about to strike midnight, and Times Square, where New Year's So again, we started to see the New Year trickle through the time zones around the United States.
	I want to say Happy New Year to everyone out there.
	Thank you for watching, and the five is next.
	Hello, everyone, and happy New Year.
	I'm Kennedy, along with Dr. Nicole Southfire, Charlie Kirk, Katie Thompson, and... ...funding extension until March 14, and that would have been an easy thing relatively to pass, but here's what happened.
	We also had to add, and due to circumstances... ...theirly kick in the teacher and saying hello to 2025.
	So let's get our glasses on, make some noise with our beautiful loisemakers, and brace ourselves, because we're blasting... ...short. because we're blasting... ...short.
	-term funding extension until March 14, and that would have been an easy thing relatively to pass, but here's what happened.
	We also had to add, due to circumstances outside of any of our control, emergency funding.
	We have two major emergencies.
	We had a record historic hurricane season that we all know, Helene and Milton and the rest, that destroyed a big swath of the country.
	We have to have Funding for that.
	That's $100 billion to rebuild six states.
	And then on top of that, we have our farmers, our small farmers and ranchers, our food producers in this country, are in jeopardy of going under permanently.
	They've had three lost years in a row, primarily because of Bidenomics and inflation and lots of other factors outside their control.
	Speaker Mike Johnson, really, we need a 1,500-page continuing resolution to help our farmers?
	Not so sure about that, especially when it was whittled down to 100 pages and finally passed.
	Why do we constantly have to have continuing resolutions?
	And what happens to him after the president's endorsement yesterday?
	Will he survive when Congress reconvenes in just a few days?
	Let's ask a man who...
	He knows the swamp very, very well, who actually had the coolest office in all of federal government.
	Yes, the Oval is cool, but we'll talk about where he used to work.
	He's from the number one congressional district in Montana, a good friend of the show, former frogman.
	If you know what that means, you know what that means.
	Congressman Ryan Zinke, welcome back to America First.
	Hey, great to be with you.
	By the way, congratulations.
	Can't wait until you're at 1,600.
	Yeah, it's exciting.
	It's a dream come true.
	20, 25 years teaching and studying counterterrorism, and then I get to run it for President Trump.
	Super exciting.
	You know the sharp end of that, having been a former SEAL. We'll talk about all that kind of stuff later in the state of the world after the last four years.
	But first, because we were chatting, and Merry Christmas to you and your family, we were chatting offline before we decided to come back on, and we're very excited to have you back, about Speaker Johnson and About 77 million vote mandate for President Trump.
	And look, of course I'm biased because I've worked for him before.
	We're going back into the administration in a couple of weeks' time.
	But it's the people choose the president and advise and consent.
	I mean, he's the president.
	Shouldn't he actually get to implement the mandate that the American people voted for, Congressman Zinke?
	Well, it set the stage.
	One is that we would not have the majority in the House of Representatives had it not been for Trump at the top of the ticket.
	So the reason why we have the majority at all is President Trump, not only was he engaged in many of the races, and remember, his endorsement on this cycle was a gold standard.
	In many cases, in many races, he chose the winning candidate.
	And he also worked hard, I mean, every day in people's districts.
	So, to a degree, you know, Congress would not have the majority.
	Absolutely.
	And secondly, is the American people, as you pointed out, have spoken.
	They have said, this is what we shall do.
	President Trump has said, you know, this is my agenda.
	This is what I'll do.
	This is a campaign promise.
	So, you know, the background is this.
	Congress, the House, get with it.
	Trump is the quarterback.
	And look, our job is to advise him the best way we can, give him all the information, but in many cases, it's his call, and when he makes the call, we need to support it.
	It's that simple.
	So let me ask you the impolite question.
	When you look at some of the discussions around people that we know, I mean, Pete Hegseth is a friend of mine and others and Cash Patel.
	It seems to me as if there are some of your colleagues on Capitol Hill, some in the upper house, the Senate, who seem to like have missed what happened on November the 5th.
	I don't know whether it's just kind of chess something, you know, we're important too.
	Is this just them making noise?
	Do they realize what happened?
	I mean, look, when you've got the likes, and we played the clip last week, when you've got Mitt Romney, Mitt Romney, say on CNN, this is the MAGA party now.
	This is Donald Trump's Republican Party.
	Are there some people who are like asleep in a cave?
	Well, let's break down what Trump is promulgating and supporting.
	A border.
	Jeez.
	Safe streets.
	How about this one?
	Strong military overseas.
	So when the president of the United States and the commander-in-chief says something, I can tell you, if you're Iran, you better listen up.
	And lastly, the economy.
	You know, all this is what Donald Trump and the American First policy is about.
	And so if you're missing that, and you're a politician, maybe you should reconsider who you serve.
	You serve the people.
	You know, as a representative, you serve those people that voted for you.
	And in my case, Montana.
	And all of us in the Congress would also raise our hand and say, you know what, we'll support the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, both foreign and domestic.
	And, you know, as we go forward in this program, we should talk about, you know, you played a strip about continuing resolutions.
	If we would follow the Constitution and our oath, Article I, Section 9 of the Constitution is pretty clear.
	No money should be withdrawn from the Treasury unless by consequence of appropriations.
	Congress has not done their job.
	We shouldn't have had a CR. We should have done our constitutional duties and had the appropriations done, because the Constitution says funding bills start in the House.
	It's that simple, too.
	Matter of fact, I have 35 trillion reasons why we should do this.
	So let's talk about this fact that we're 20 plus years into CRs.
	I don't think you can blame just the Democrat Party for that.
	Why is this happening again and again and again?
	And why can't we have clean bills that say, okay, this is defense authorization, this is education, this is agriculture, this is whatever.
	Why are we again here with this Abortion of a bill that has everything packed into it.
	You are at the heart of the issue.
	All right.
	The Constitution is pretty clear that appropriations and funding bills start in the House.
	But over time, Congress has invented these tools.
	And you know them.
	Mandatory spending, discretionary, omnibuses, CRs.
	These tools were invented by Congress to do what?
	To defer really tough decisions.
	To punt the ball.
	So we've been punting for 20 years.
	When I came back to Congress, there was a commitment that we would go back to regular order.
	And regular order means you're going to pass the 12 appropriation bills, the funding bills are going to start in the House, and then you're going to send them to the Senate, and the Senate will pick them up.
	There's a process to do this.
	And Sebastian, this is how bad it is, is that I sit on appropriations.
	So, how much of the federal budget does appropriations actually look at and appropriate?
	Well, first, it's only about 25%, because the other 75% have been put in this mandatory column where it's growing exponentially.
	And then, of the budget we do appropriate, half of its defense And it gets one layer worse is most of the other things that are not in defense, they're not even authorized.
	So our founding fathers were brilliant.
	They were merchants.
	And they looked at a checks and balance system where you authorize funding.
	The budget guys get in there and says, you know what?
	This is on the menu.
	This is what's authorized.
	But this is how much money you have.
	And the last step to appropriations is supposed to say, look, it's authorized.
	This is how much money we have.
	And this is how much we have to spend.
	When you only look at less than 25 percent of the budget now and the rest of you don't look at, that's the problem.
	And I think all of us that are fiscal conservatives that understand our Constitution, we need to be firm in this point.
	So what's going to happen?
	Is the Speaker, after yesterday's endorsement, is his seat safe?
	What do you expect is going to happen on January the 3rd and then January the 6th, Congressman Zinke?
	Well, my hope is that we rally around Trump's statement.
	I think Trump's assessment was exactly correct in the case of Speaker Johnson.
	He's a good man.
	He is.
	He's the most conservative Speaker we have ever had.
	He's a religious guy.
	There's no doubt about it.
	And he can succeed as long as everyone pulls their weight.
	You know, in the military context, look, it's not the generals who win wars.
	So, you know, Speaker Johnson is not going to win the battles in the House.
	It's always the front line.
	And the front line are the members themselves.
	In a battlefield, this front line, you're sergeants.
	You're guys that are actually doing the job on the front line and winning the war.
	So all of us as the Republicans, if we agree and believe in the American first policies, which are secure border, strong military force, an economy that thrives, it's open to everybody, then you need to do your part.
	And some of these members, I think, for either media, hype, Or they want it their way and not the highway.
	That can't happen in a body.
	Everyone has to work together and I'm hopeful that will happen.
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	S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A SebGorkaStore.com All right, we've discussed our side of the aisle, whether they're going to get in line with the mandate the president has been given with 77 million Americans, not just the Electoral College, but the popular vote as well.
	Let's talk about the other side.
	This is the thing.
	I don't think I could do what you do.
	I couldn't go to Capitol Hill and work there with...
	Because I've heard some stories from people who work with the Democrats.
	How do you work with these people?
	Because...
	Some of them, they're not play-acting, Congressman Zinke.
	They actually are lunatics.
	And they believe the, you know, white supremacist, neo-Nazi garbage that is being peddled by the mainstream legacy media.
	So I'm curious, on a day-to-day basis, do you just pick and choose between the sane ones and the crazy ones?
	How does it work?
	Well, you know, I have friends on both sides of the aisle, but you were right.
	The Democratic Party itself, you know, in a Montana tone is, look, we got crazy on the right and we got commies on the left.
	At least our crazies, with the national anthem plays, they stand.
	So they're patriotic crazies.
	These commies on the other side, they want to destroy the country and everything that we fought so hard for.
	And let me give you a litmus test, is that Marie Salazar, she's a wonderful member from Miami, she's Cuban-American, and one thing about the Cuban-Americans that are down in Miami, boy, they hate the Communists, because they understood what Fidel Castro meant, right?
	So she puts a bill in, 108th Congress, and the title is something like, Condemning Marxist-Leninist Theology.
	And the bill's only about a page.
	It goes through a number of people tortured, murdered, raped by Mao Zedong, Stalin, Fidel Castro.
	It comes to the floor, 80 Democrats can't find their way to vote for that resolution.
	And 20 take a pass.
	So how is that possible?
	You're condemning just true, true horror.
	Can you explain that?
	Well, you look at it, and that's the Democratic Party today.
	You have 100 members, which is about half the caucus of the Democratic side in the House of Representatives, can't find their way to condemn Marxist-Leninist theology, nor could they condemn Hamas.
	I mean, children are taught in Gaza to count 1 to 10 by 10 dead Israeli soldiers.
	And you can't find your way to say this is wrong.
	So, you know, again, on the Democratic Party, what I do is I find people that are interested in the same topic as I am, probably narrowly focused.
	You know, for instance, Senator Heinrich, you know, out of New Mexico, he's an outfitter, and we both share a passion for the outdoors and public access, etc.
	So I can work with him on that issue, but I can't work with him on a lot of other issues.
	So what's your expectation then?
	Because in the last seven weeks, we see them digging the ditch deeper.
	You see one person, Van Jones, say, we were idiots.
	We didn't understand the American people.
	Immigration is important.
	But everybody else is...
	I mean, the cable news, you switch it on at night, and they're saying black men voted for Donald Trump because they hate women and they hate Kamala, and Hispanics voted for him because they're uneducated.
	I mean, this is actually what Democrats are saying every night.
	So this party is just going to dig itself deeper, isn't it?
	Well, I hope so.
	Because they don't represent, certainly Montana, they don't represent the majority of Americans.
	You know, look, if you ask the American, you know, what's important to you?
	On a government that's transparent, that's trusted, that provides security for our families and our communities and our border, That we protect American interests, whether they're foreign or abroad.
	And the government should run, given that the government just by the name government is inefficient, the government should run to a degree within a budget prescribed and be accountable to taxpayer dollars.
	I mean, you have to believe that.
	If you don't, you know, I'm sorry, but the Democratic Party wants to destroy the very thing that has built the essence of a great country, which is building opportunity.
	So a bigger trouncing in two years' time, Congressman?
	Pardon me?
	A bigger trouncing for the Democrats in two years' time?
	Yes, if we do our job.
	But the expectation from America is also, look, they've given us the mantle of power and their vote.
	Now we actually have to do something with it.
	That means we have to get the job done and secure the border.
	We have to make sure that we look at our tax position and extend the tax credits to allow families and ranches and farms in Montana to exist.
	So we need to get the job done that we said we would do.
	And you remember when we were in Trump's first term, we'd walk into Bannon's office, in your office, and there was a big board.
	And it listed every campaign promise.
	Every one.
	Yep.
	And that's where President Trump was going on his agenda.
	And as we'd go through energy independence, we'd mark it off.
	And you know what?
	That's what Trump delivers is a promise made should be a promise kept.
	And that's why I'm an optimist.
	These guys that get in the way of making good on our promises, you know, there should be a consequence for bad behavior.
	Yeah, I remember our young colleague who didn't have the best handwriting, who was tasked with putting every promise up on that whiteboard.
	That was our first day in office, in Steve's office.
	And then every Monday morning, we'd call him in and we'd say, okay, Red Mark, which one are we going to check off?
	It's actually, it's not classified.
	There's a big photograph of that in my second book, Why We Fight.
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	We are back with decorated frogmen.
	SEAL, for those who don't know.
	He is Commander, U.S. Navy, retired former Secretary of the Interior.
	A man who, I don't know if I'm going to get in trouble with my former and future boss, but I'm going to say it right now here, Congressman Zinke, the Oval Office is cool.
	Don't get me wrong.
	But the Secretary of the Interior's office, it's just a kind of notch above because you've got stuffed grizzly bears, you've got wood paneling, you've got dinosaur heads, you've got just this office.
	I mean, is this why you took the job, Congressman?
	Is this why you said, okay, I'll do it for you, President Trump?
	Well, you know what?
	I never knew about...
	And the best view.
	Look at this.
	This is the view from outside of the Secretary of the Interior's office.
	Sorry.
	You know, I had never actually been in the office at all prior to being sworn in.
	I'd heard the rumors about it.
	Wow.
	But I'd never been in the office, and I found out that every inch of that office, including the doors, were part of our nation's historical preservation program.
	And that office is on the historical register because when it was built, it was built during the 1930s.
	It was just built beautifully.
	It's the largest office of any cabinet secretary.
	And I would say the grandness of it certainly competes with the Oval Office, but there's nothing like that desk, as you know.
	So tell the world what the first thing is that you did in terms of the natural heating options in your office.
	What's the first thing you did, Congressman Zinke?
	Well, it was funny because it has a beautiful fireplace in it.
	And there was a little sign that said the fireplace no longer in use due to global warming.
	And I looked at it and I called the facilities guy.
	I said, hey, do we have any wood in this building?
	He said, yes, sir.
	The wood hasn't been burned in over two years.
	I said, you know what?
	Let's bring a couple logs up.
	And that was one of the first signs I burned along with the Washington Post every day in the New York Times.
	Nothing lights a fire like the New York Times.
	And we don't have time to go into the details, but give a little flavour.
	You brought in a map, and I think your chief of staff was there as well, showing the different kind of authorities with regards to land management, bureaus, waterways.
	I mean, Byzantine is not the word of the things you had to try and fix as Secretary of the Interior.
	Well, I'm going to make you lose your mind.
	You ready for this?
	Let's say you have a trout and a salmon in the same stream.
	Upstream is a forest, national forest.
	Downstream we have dam.
	I've just described most of the watersheds in the U.S. This is how we manage it.
	The salmon are actually managed by Department of Commerce through NOAA. The trout are managed by Department of Interior through U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.
	The forests out there, the surface is managed by Department of Ag, U.S. Forest Service, subsurface to Department of Interior, Bureau of Land Management.
	The dams are either Army Corps of Engineers or Department of Interior, Bureau of Reclamation.
	And you wonder why we can't get things done.
	If you want to repair just a bridge, you have to go through multiple leadership, different divisions of the United States government, with oftentimes conflicting regulation.
	And this is where Elon Musk and Vivek, they got to look at reorganization, because it's not about adding or subtracting dollars.
	It's that we have structural problems that we need to reorganize so we can get things done.
	And I got a taste of it in Interior.
	I certainly enjoyed the job, but boy, they went after me.
	Looking at it, they were shooting at Trump, no doubt, you know, no pun intended.
	But he was out of range, and every day was a battle.
	We'll talk about what the deep state tried to do to you, and then your advice for President Trump and his returning and new team members in just a few weeks' time.
	We're talking to Congressman Ryan Zinke, former SEAL Rep.
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	You see something that said, take a look at what happened.
	Congressman Zinke, Commander Zinke, given your knowledge of what it means to wear the cloth of the Republic and to go into a war zone, don't you find it
	Don't you find it very strange that what we just played happened in America just a few months ago and that that man was the leader of the opposition and is now the president-elect?
	Have we drawn the requisite conclusions for how we got to a place where a Democrat donor could try and kill President Trump and almost succeed in doing so?
	Well, again, I'm a hopeful American that the American First policy is America's policy and not just Donald Trump's.
	I think we all deserve, as citizens, safe borders, etc.
	But you're exactly right.
	The violence of the opposition is uncharacteristic, not American.
	It's in the terrorist zone.
	And I think it was the divine intervention that saved President Trump.
	Huge questions on how it happened and competence.
	You look at, you know, The action's prior to the shot.
	You know, 20, 30 minutes in many cases.
	This kid is up on a roof.
	He's not marked, et cetera, et cetera.
	He's spotted.
	And then, of course, the shot.
	But even after the shot, you know, in my experience of doing this, you have a ballistic blanket.
	You wrap your, in this case, former President Trump, you wrap him.
	He should have been two miles away from that target by the time he noticed he didn't have shoes.
	So there was gross incompetence all the way along the line.
	At some point, you have to say, was it intentional?
	And this goes back to the question about how deep is the deep state?
	It's deep enough where you would pursue through the justice system to hurt, harm citizens to your political opposition.
	So I'm absolutely encouraged by Trump winning.
	And restoring trust in the government, that's transparency and that's getting to the bottom of this.
	Where there's a lot of evil in D.C. that needs to be rooted out.
	The most charitable thing one can say about the events of Butler were failure by design, and we still have to have a lot of answers for what really happened.
	Let's talk about a wonderful thing you did for me and about 40 Americans who are visiting the U.S. that typifies the Trumpian effect, which is People who are citizens first and politicians second.
	You asked me to come to your offices in March of 2018, and you didn't tell me why.
	We had a great chat, and then you said, let's jump in the car.
	And you took us down to the Lincoln Memorial.
	Here we are with one of the park rangers.
	And then you stood outside the Lincoln Memorial, and just to anyone standing there, you said, hey, I'm the Secretary of the Interior.
	Would you like a special tour underneath the Lincoln Memorial?
	And people were like...
	Sorry?
	Who are you?
	What?
	You're the Secretary of the Interior?
	I didn't know.
	This is something you do with quite some regularity.
	And you took us underneath the reflecting pool, the Lincoln Memorial, to these massive catacombs.
	And it was, I mean, one of the greatest things...
	I've done in D.C. You're standing in front of some of the graffiti from the original workmen that built the memorial stanchions underneath.
	So tell us what we were seeing, Congressman, and why, as a member of the Cabinet, it was important for you to do this again and again for Americans visiting D.C. Well, you know, the American monuments belong to all of us as citizens.
	And I so much enjoyed...
	If I had 45 minutes, I'd sprint down to the mall.
	And you're right, I'd go up to people and say, hi, I'm Ryan Zinke, and would you like a tour of the Undercroft?
	And they'd look at me and say, well, how much does it cost?
	It's nothing.
	But believe me, you want to take this tour.
	And so we'd go underneath the Undercroft, and, you know, real quickly...
	Lincoln Monument is the most visited of all.
	But it's the only monument that's built down to bedrock.
	It's actually built all the way down on the banks of the Potomac, but built down to bedrock.
	And there's this huge space underneath the memorial.
	Absolutely.
	What you see from the top is really a reflection of the size and the bottom.
	And remember, it has millions of tons of marble up on top.
	So underneath is the structure of the flying buttresses and on all the architectural marbles of when it was made in the beginning of the 19th century.
	How do you put together this beautiful monument?
	And to go underneath, it has graffiti from the workers there.
	There were a lot of Germans during that period of time.
	In the late teens, in the 20s.
	But it's really a reflection of, one, is why it's there, and it's the only bedrock of our values, as well as our monument, and a lot of fun.
	But that's one of the things I really enjoyed as Secretary, as well as becoming energy independent, energy dominant, and we fixed our park.
	Tell us what the plans were originally for that space and what could happen to it in the future.
	On the memorial on Lincoln?
	Yeah.
	Oh, underneath.
	A donor and a wonderful man who also gave us a lot of money for the Marine Corps monument.
	He made an endowment there and they're going to take the undercrop, make a mezzine deck.
	And open it up so viewers can see it, but you won't be able to see it like we did before the construction, walking down.
	Nor does the reconstruction take to the scalactites that we saw underneath the pools from years and years and years of water penetration.
	Yeah, it's an amazing, incredible space.
	You have no expectation.
	You're literally moving into this huge cavern underground, the memorials of Washington, D.C. Hopefully we can do something with that in the next four years.
	And maybe somebody from Montana could be involved in making that happen.
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	Ryan, the thing that's always the same with you, even after the deep state came after you, talking to you today, during the last four years, you have this spirit that's kind of...
	Indefatigable.
	What is the genesis?
	What is the source of your happy warrior flame, Congressman?
	You know, I'm an optimist.
	And look, I was the first SEAL in the House of Representatives.
	There are now six SEALs in the House and one in the Senate.
	I'd say we're halfway there.
	I'm chairman of SEALPAC. Follow us at SEALPAC.org.
	But, you know, I'm such an optimist in the American spirit.
	That America is strong, but it's strong because we're strong as a people.
	And believe me, I've seen enormous, as we all have seen, enormous talent in this country, the innovation.
	So I remain an optimist.
	But the fight for freedom never ends, and you've got to earn it every day.
	And there's a saying in the SEALs, you have to earn your trident every day.
	And I think for those of us in Congress and leadership and influence like yourself, we've got to earn our freedom every day.
	And just remember how difficult it was to be a nation that we are and how challenging and what an honor it is to serve and make sure that the next generation has the same opportunity that we do.
	And when you look at the next four years, and especially the next two years until the next election, you know, you were in the crosshairs of the swamp.
	How optimistic do you feel about the next couple of years?
	You look at the team, the nominees, is it going to be as difficult, as sabotaged as it was, or do you feel it's going to be easier?
	You know, I think we're a lot smarter this time.
	I think we know where the obstacles are and we know where the challenges are to a degree, but also we have a good lineup.
	You know, Pete Hegseth, you and I know Pete very, very well.
	You know, the criticism, oh, he's young.
	Well, Rumsfeld was young, you know, and McAmera was young.
	And he goes, well, he doesn't have experience.
	Well, wait a minute.
	Les Aspen had no military experience.
	Perry had no military experience.
	Obama had an accountant.
	You know what I really like about Pete?
	Is the deck plates like him.
	Because he's a soldier.
	He's one of us.
	He's a double bronze star.
	Look, he's for real.
	So I like the lineup and I like the opportunity.
	But I really like the message.
	The message is we're going to get things done.
	And it kind of goes back to here comes our first fight.
	And I understand fiscal discipline.
	But members of Congress, we've got to unite.
	As our country should unite behind an agenda that is important for the survival of this country.
	So let's all do our job.
	He's not the only one with two bronze stars.
	Our guest is also a holder of two bronze stars.
	Commander, former SEAL, now Congressman Ryan Zinke.
	God bless you.
	Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and your family.
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