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Sebastian Gorka LIVE: Latest updates on New Orleans jihadi attack
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I think we're going to do fantastically well as a country.
We're going to bring it back.
It has to be brought back.
People are not respecting our country very much, and they're going to respect us a lot.
I think a lot of progress has been made over the last five weeks.
It's been pretty amazing when you look at what's happened.
There's a whole light over the whole world, not just our country.
There are a lot of very happy people.
Have you got any New Year's resolutions for 2025?
Well, I just want everybody to be happy, healthy, and well.
President Trump's message from Mar-a-Lago on New Year's Eve, hours, just hours before the deadly attack in Bourbon Street, New Orleans, that has killed 15 and injured scores and scores of Americans.
On top of the attack that occurred in Las Vegas, the detonation of a Tesla Cybertruck in front of the Trump Hotel there, I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First.
I wanted to dedicate our show to thanking those who've supported us over the years and made this whole enterprise possible.
Yesterday was the sixth anniversary of the show, and we'll be talking to those guests, but given the events of what occurred, I have to discuss those as well.
In New Orleans, a 10-year veteran of the active-duty U.S. military, who also continued service in the reserves, called Shamsuddin Jabbar, drove his vehicle into those who were celebrating New Year's Eve.
The 42-year-old Texan did so wearing military fatigues and after crashing into the innocent revelers, opened fire after he got out of his vehicle, injuring two local officers.
There is an incredible viral footage as the attack was occurring of local police hearing the call on their radios and swarming, running, and we're showing it right now, running towards the gunfire.
This is why we owe so much to our brothers and sisters in blue who literally ran towards the carnage to save more lives.
Two of those officers were wounded in the exchange during which Jabbar was killed.
Afterwards, multiple exclusive devices were discovered in his vehicle that had been rented, the F-150 Ford pickup truck, a truck which was flying the Shahada jihadi flag that is used by groups like ISIS and Al-Qaeda to connote their membership inside the global jihadi movement.
The FBI Well I don't know what to say here because the special agent who spoke at the first press conference should never have been given a badge or a gun.
She couldn't make proper English sentences with her mouth and in contravention of FBI regulations she stood there in front of the world as a representative of the federal government A nose ring which magically disappeared a few hours later when somebody reminded her that she may be a DEI hire, but there are certain regulations that just look like an embarrassment.
She said there is no terrorist aspect to this attack, despite the fact the local authorities just prior to her at that press conference said it was a terrorist attack, and despite the fact that an ISIS flag was flying on the truck and that IEDs, improvised explosive devices, were found inside the vehicle after the murderous assault ramming with that truck.
The terror attack comes just 10 days after the similar vehicular attack at the Magdeburg Christmas Market in Germany that killed five innocent revellers, including one young boy.
To put this all into context...
Al-Qaeda and ISIS, in their jihadi propaganda publications, Rumia and Inspire and others, have repeatedly published tactical advice on how members of the global jihadi movement should use vehicles as part of their attack tactics.
We've seen this again and again, multiple instances of this, horrific ones we have seen across America and Europe.
You just have to think about it for a second.
Using a gun takes skill.
Using a knife, you have to be very close to the people and you have to shock them and get within an arm's length.
A vehicle like an F-150 is one and a half tons of steel.
That you can drive into soft, innocent bodies at 40, 50 miles an hour and create utter and complete carnage.
Joe Biden praised the FBI and the DOJ for their investigations of this attack.
An attack which, if they had been doing their job, would never have actually happened.
President Trump was right that this is an imported threat.
He published a very harsh statement, and he said this is because of our open borders.
And he's right.
Irrespective of the fact that Jabbar may have been born and raised in Texas, that's irrelevant.
As Stephen Miller later pointed out yesterday, there's no such thing as indigenous jihadism in America.
The jihadi global movement came to America from the outside of the continental United States.
It was imported to this nation, whether physically, such as by the 9-11 hijackers, or electronically, with regards to the propaganda and recruitment of those who take the jihadi message to their fellow Americans here in the United States.
I've never believed in the lone wolf jihadi theory.
When it comes to successful attacks, there's never really been a successful attack that is one person and one person alone.
Jihadi Jane, the plot from Pennsylvania, was a pathetic failure.
She wasn't connected to the broader movement, and that's why she failed.
If you're a jihadi, you are recruited.
You are talent spotted.
Your attack is usually blessed by an extremist imam before you execute the attack.
That is a conspiracy.
Accordingly, the FBI has now said they are looking for other members of this conspiracy, but I doubt they'll find them, at least not in time.
Why?
What have they been doing for the last four years?
Hunting down innocent grandmothers from January the 6th who were praying inside Congress peacefully and giving them prison sentences.
Sending armed agents to swat President Trump's residence at Mar-a-Lago and plant evidence inside his private residence.
They've been surveilling Catholics in Richmond, Virginia because they went to Latin Mass.
Or they've been trailing my former colleague, Peter Navarro, all the way to Reagan Airport, waiting till he got on a flight to arrest him and leg shackle him and walk him through that airport on a, quote, contempt of Congress charge from Nancy Pelosi's illegal January 6th committee.
You're not going to find jihadists.
If you're looking to imprison grandmothers for praying in Congress, you're not going to stop the next attack if your priority is to raid Mar-a-Lago and plant evidence there.
18 days can't come fast enough.
Hopefully, Kash Patel will have an accelerated Senate confirmation, along with Tom Homan in the White House, Governor Noem as Secretary of Homeland Security, Stephen Miller in the White House, and myself.
Everything changes when we start working officially at 12.01 for the 47th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
In the meantime, you are...
You are on the front line.
The second you exit your home, you're on the front line of this war with the jihadists.
Keep your head on a swivel and take responsibility for your safety and your family's safety because Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Chris Wray, they're not on America's side.
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Yo, um...
What you need to know about...
the New Orleans and the threat to you.
What you need to know about New Orleans and the threat to you, yep.
And the threat to your family.
Mm-hmm.
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got no confidence in this administration to be honest with us and read us, and they've been lying about this from day one, lying every day from the White House podium about the border being secured.
I am grateful President Trump got re-elected.
President Trump's going to come into office and we're going to secure that border.
We're going to run a deportation operation.
We concentrate, prioritize public safety threats and national security threats.
I think this country is about to get a lot safer under President Trump.
Absolutely.
I love that man.
In part, we're going to be safer in 18 days because of him.
Tom Homer and the incoming borders are no one better.
I mean, literally, no one better in America to secure the borders.
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It's also the incredible guests.
Jeff, we have to have a...
I don't know if you've got a spreadsheet somewhere, but I'm just going to be curious before we finish on Monday, how many guests we've had on the show?
What do you think it is?
What's a rough number?
We had it one time.
We did, didn't we?
Like a year ago, you added it all up.
It was a couple years ago.
It was over like 500, I think, or maybe...
Over 500. And of course there are those who we wish we could have on every day because of the value they bring in telling the truth.
And one of them is our first guest for today.
He's the author of a whole slew of works.
The most recent is The Disappearing President, The Plot Against the President, The Permanent Coup, and of course the movie made out of The Plot Against the President.
He is of course our good friend Lee Smith.
Lee, Happy New Year.
Happy New Year to you, Seb.
I was actually getting very, very moved when you were saying, yeah, there's only a few shows left.
And I'm thinking, so what I'm going to do for your listeners is I'm going to call you up a couple times a week and just, you can talk about anything.
You can read off the shopping list.
But people will, if they don't hear your voice...
You know, that's why I still say we have to make a radio play and put it out there.
I'll write a radio play for you so people can hear your voice because, of course, listeners, viewers love learning from your guests and stuff, less so from me.
But why most of us are here, of course, day after day is to hear your amazing voice.
Now the NSC staff will benefit where the rest of us will be sorely missing hearing your voice.
Well, thank you, buddy.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And I will be using all the things I learned from you in my new job because of your expertise in the domestic threat from the deep state and your expertise in the Middle East.
I think the first book we discussed of yours when I got to know you many, many moons ago is your book on the Middle East, which is The Strong Power, politics, and the clash of Arab civilizations.
By the way, you reminded me, if you're really desperate to hear my funny, accented voice, a couple of years ago, Eric worked overtime for me, and we spent, what was it, like three months, Eric, recording the whole New Testament every day after the show, right?
That's right.
We called it getting with God, is what we called it.
Yeah, Getting With God.
Just look for it on a podcast.
It's free.
I will.
You can hear me read the New Testament chapter by chapter.
So if you really need a hit, guys, when I'm inside a skiff planning, you know, counterterrorism for the president, you can listen to at least me reading the Bible.
You can play your recording and Johnny Cash's side by side.
Wow.
Who read it?
Who read it better?
So that'll be great.
Okay, that's what I'm going to start the new year now.
All right, we've got to promote that, guys, because I think my media presence may be a little bit different in 18 days' time.
Okay, I want to talk about the Middle East in the next segment, but let's talk about what Tom Homan said, what the president said, what Stephen Miller said yesterday, because the president said the threat is from the outside, and people said, oh no, this guy was born in Texas.
But the president is right, and so is Stephen Miller.
It doesn't matter where you were born.
The jihadi threat isn't indigenous to America.
It's not because Al-Qaeda was born in America.
It is an infection from the outside.
Given what you've done to map the deep state and their targeting of grandmothers, conservatives, Kash Patel, President Trump, Rudy Giuliani, is it Not fair to say that these attacks could have been prevented if the FBI wasn't a political Gestapo working for the DNC, Lee.
Right.
Well, let's remember what happened after 9-11.
I mean, Robert Mueller was FBI director.
He'd been on the job for about a week.
The planes crashed into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, the one in a field in Pennsylvania.
And so Robert Mueller was empowered.
Got more resources, more money, much larger budget, much more power inside the beltway.
And what did they do?
I mean, we saw what the FBI did with that.
And that's part of that partly explains.
These two terror attacks yesterday.
The FBI has used all of that power and used all of those resources to target its domestic opponents instead of keeping Americans safe.
So that's a real tragedy for the United States.
And this is something, of course, that Kash Patel, as FBI director, is going to have to spend an awful lot of time doing, getting people back on the job, not just fighting crime, but penetrating networks like this.
Not framing people, as the FBI has done a lot of in the past, but actually getting into these networks and finding out what's going on and stopping these attacks and keeping America safe.
Let me run something by you that somebody said who's actually a former CIA station chief I had lunch with a few days ago.
He likes cash, but he said...
Don't be so declarative about what you're going to do because you may make enemies of those who maybe didn't commit crimes against conservatives but just want to keep their pensions and could actually function as good FBI agents.
What's your take as a professional communicator about how much a nominee says in public and how much they keep to themselves?
Well, I think, first of all, I think that advice is really interesting, because, Seb, this has been my case about the deep state.
Look, we're not talking about 2.2 million federal workers here.
We're talking about a lot of people who are simply bureaucrats, and as you say, they want to keep their paycheck.
They want to make sure they get their pension.
So if they're directed to do the right thing, right, that's why so much of it has to do with leadership.
First of all, you have to have the right leader, someone as President Donald Trump, as FBI director, someone like Kash Patel.
And then you have to target the leadership that has done bad things.
To set an example, that's how you have to hold accountable, right?
Not people who are way down on the ladder and they, you know, look, they may not have done the right thing.
But the most important thing is to go after leadership.
So I think that's very important.
And look, one of the things, I think we've talked about this before, but one of the great things about Cash is that he's said the right thing, and he has so many Americans excited.
And there's lots of FBI, lots of agents there who have done the right thing, and they're excited about someone like him coming on board so they can focus on their mission, which is to serve and protect Americans.
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We'll be back with Lee after these messages.
And with the mics are hot, I was meeting with this absolutely grizzled, you know, I was meeting with this absolutely grizzled, you know, MAGA CIA guy.
And he said, Cash, stop pissing people.
No, he didn't say that.
Stop getting people who could be on board worried about their pensions.
And it kind of like, you know, because I don't...
You know, measure myself very often or tone it down, but if that CIA, I think he was like a six-time station chief, if he's saying it, maybe there's something to it.
There might be, but I think it might also be a way to, you know, to get people on the right side before you even walk since it.
That's right.
I'm ready to go.
There's a lot of bad stuff that went down here, Director.
And I saw some of it.
If you want me to talk about it, I will.
But I want to bear down and do the job.
And we really appreciate your leadership.
And thank you for setting direction for this very important institution, even before you stepped into the building.
Yeah, yeah.
Got to meet you.
Are you coming up for the inauguration?
Are you guys coming up?
I'm not.
I'm not, unfortunately.
You know, I'll be up in the beginning of February, though.
I'll be up in the beginning of February for three days.
Liel and I are doing something.
Oh, good!
And so we will alert you to the thing that we are doing, and I hope that you will join us.
Love it.
Since we are both big fans of yours, and for the sake of argument, we're going to assume that you're a fan of ours as well.
Indeed.
Indeed.
Go ahead.
No, I was going to talk about these attacks, and I really appreciate what Tom Homan says, and I think that we will eventually be a safer country.
But I think right now, and I talk about this a bit in disappearing the president, I think we're heading into a very, very rocky moment.
A very rocky moment.
Yeah.
With all the different factors.
And there's a lot.
So I don't know if that's what you want to talk about in that segment.
Yeah, let's talk about it.
Let's talk about it.
What are we doing here?
Come in with four.
I'll do my pillow and then I'll go to Lee.
And then we'll just mention the latest book and the oldest book.
So we'll do Disappearing and the Strong Horse.
Yep, got it.
80 seconds.
I mean...
Yep.
I mean, we're talking about—I think an important piece of this that people have already forgotten about is the Luigi Mangione thing.
Yes.
You know, I mean, this is—so I'm obviously concerned about, you know, Islamic terror.
But we've also got a big problem with left-wing terror.
We've got a problem with the DEI military.
Yes.
I mean, it appears...
I mean, we don't know anything about...
We don't know enough about these two guys yesterday and their commitment to wokeism.
But we know what happened over the last four years.
Good.
Let's talk about all of that.
That's great.
That's great.
Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen.
We'll see you next week.
We'll see you next week.
it's just not showing networked at this point, more inspired, and then even that inspiration, it's a little bit thin at the moment.
Normally in these cases when we see ISIS-inspired, we see a longer history of someone talking about ISIS, a lot more witnesses or others that know about it.
Maybe that will come out today as the investigation proceeds.
Right, Clint Watts, former FBI agent, professor at George Mason University.
No, it's not really.
He had problems at work.
Somebody, you know, used his milk up in the fridge and he couldn't get, you know, creamer for his coffee.
That.
Is exactly the problem with the deep state and the FBI. Absolutely shocking.
We will continue in a moment with our buddy Lee Smith first.
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It is incredible, Lee Smith.
Your latest book, you've got the gamut.
We've got the despairing, the president, the latest title.
Originally, you're an expert on the Middle East, the strongest horse.
This isn't just about jihadis.
Yes, that was a jihadi attack.
But we have to think about the other things.
You mentioned in the break the Mangione case, what we know about the left's worshipping of this killer, so that the threat environment is a disturbingly broad one, isn't it?
Yes.
Well, I mean, you know, I talk about this and disappearing the president.
I also talk about Clint Watts, and it's, of course, It's somewhat spectacular that he's going on about Russian disinformation, this and that.
And of course, all these people are missing the real threat to our peace and prosperity, to our national security.
And that's this kind of political violence.
And so the reason that I mentioned during the break is, as you said, the Luigi Mangione, because the way the left responded to this, right?
And you look, they've taken a major setback with the Trump victory, but that's not the only setback.
The other setback, when Tom Homan is talking about closing the borders, the country is going to be safer.
This is a core issue.
For the left, right?
To keep those borders open.
It's part of their electoral program.
It's enormous.
They have to keep those borders open.
There's going to be a big fight about that.
And that's one of the things I describe in disappearing the president.
So while we relish the relative peace that we have right now in the country, I think these two attacks taken together with the Mangione attack, they suggest that we're going to be heading into a pretty rocky period.
And look what we're talking about here, Seb.
We're talking about people who have crossed the border, one.
We're talking about existing terror networks in the United States, Iran, Hezbollah.
Also, we're talking about the pro-Hamas demonstrations.
We see the money coming in there from abroad.
We see some foreign students, but there's even plenty of Americans there.
So these are creating new terror networks.
And then another very important aspect is the DEI or the woke military.
Now, I don't think we have enough information yet on these two terrorists, what their exact relationship was like to the military.
Well, we'll get that, but in the minute and a half we have left with you, let's focus on this first incredibly disturbing thing, the left-wing adulation on Mangione.
You know broken political systems.
You understand the Middle East, for example.
There's no way to excise this normalization of violence by the Democrat Party until a leader comes up from within the party and says, No, we refuse to dehumanize those who disagree with us.
And that doesn't seem likely in the near future, does it?
No, it's something important.
And again, I don't want to be a dark cloud over what should be a great time with Donald Trump about to be inaugurated in three weeks.
But it's important to remember that Kamala Harris, in spite of the Democratic Party's insanity, What's the final count now?
70 million votes.
And a lot of those people, when we're talking about a lot of the far-left progressives, they believe in all these different things.
We're not just talking about woke.
We're also talking about political violence.
We're talking about targeting their adversaries.
Remember, all of this is the assassination attempts on Donald Trump's life, the other political violence we saw during the George Floyd riots.
So I'm extremely concerned that what we're seeing is Some sort of perfect storm, all these different elements coming together, and the jihadi attack is only one element of it.
So we should be concerned about political violence in a very large way starting to form.
Look what happened.
Over the last four years, these guys have done nothing.
Well, on the contrary, they've targeted the conservatives that actually believe in the republic and excuse those or, you know, raise the bail money for BLM rioters as Kamala did.
We're going to miss you, Lee Smith.
See you in the swamp in the not-too-distant future.
He is the author of Disappearing the President.
Follow him right now at LeeSmithDC.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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And we're so happy for you and so excited.
And keep us safe.
That's my job.
That's my mission.
God bless you.
Happy New Year, buddy.
Hope to see you in the not-too-distant future.
I look forward to it.
Bye.
Thank you.
See you, buddy.
Have you got the website for Jerry and images of Matt?
Yes, yes, yes.
Want the mics off for her?
Yeah.
mic's off okay mic's
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off I will When it is appropriate and this investigation is complete, you will find out what happened and who was responsible.
Or I will raise fresh hell.
And I will chase those in the federal government who are responsible for telling us what happened, like they stole Christmas.
That's Senator Kennedy talking after the attack in Bourbon Street.
Jeff, he always has, you know, the scripted, very cute one-liners, the zingers from his Senate testimony.
But I kind of believe the guy that if he doesn't get answers for his constituents who were murdered, he will raise hell.
Do you?
I think so, because he wouldn't have said it and made such a big deal out of it.
Right, right.
Eric, do you believe Senator Kennedy?
I do believe.
And the fact that he obviously knew this was not a time for little quips, he just said exactly what was on his mind.
That's how you can tell how serious he is.
We need answers and we need them yesterday.
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In the last couple of days I have left with you, my dear friends, I want to say thank you to those who've supported this show as experts, newsmakers and friends, and those who are just simply important, really important because of the stories they brought to you.
One of them is somebody I count as a dear friend today, a person who told the truth about January the 6th and what happened to her dear, dear nephew, Matt Perner.
Jerry Perner, Happy New Year and welcome back to America First.
Happy New Year, Seb.
Thank you for having me once again.
So everybody needs to go back and watch the prior interviews we did with Jerry.
They need to go to the website, Remembering Matt Perner.
Matt did nothing wrong on January the 6th.
He was charged with one crime and then on the anniversary of his mother's death, They said they're going to turbo up his charges to a terrorist enhancement.
And instead of going through that hell under Matthew Graves, the prosecutor here in D.C., your lovely nephew took his own life.
I need to get your reaction to the rumors a couple of days ago that the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia is suddenly resigning, Jerry.
Well, I wasn't surprised.
Everything the man does disgusts me.
But I'm pretty sure that there's probably a pardon waiting for him, as there have been for how many degenerates that Biden has pardoned so far.
I don't know how the legal system works, but I hope that there will be justice down the road for the lives that this man ruined and the lives that were taken because of his death.
We have, I think, you know, probably better than I do, at least half a dozen January 6 victims who took their own lives instead of being put in the gulag with hundreds of other innocent victims.
Your nephew can't come back.
He's lost forever.
We keep him in our prayers.
How important is it to you and the people you know from the other January 6 families that President Trump has made a promise that the January 6s will be pardoned as soon as he is sworn in?
Well, it's very important to me.
It is also...
Maybe a subject of controversy because people have been calling for blanket pardons, and I simply am not in agreement with that, because there were people on January 6th who instigated and agitated and brought about the false narrative that the media ran with, that it was a violent insurrection.
Those people are the reason that people like my nephew suffered so badly and eventually killed himself.
Because of the threat of lengthy prison terms.
So I am very hopeful that the right people do receive the pardons.
And I know that President Trump has told me twice personally that Matthew would receive a posthumous pardon.
So this is super important because this is personal for you, but I'm so glad you said what you did.
And I agree with you wholeheartedly.
The likes of Ray Epps, who we have on video instigating the violence before January 6th and during January 6th, people like that, whether or not they worked for the FBI, they should go to prison.
And those who are caught up and who were charged as a result of the incitement, they're the ones who should be pardoned.
Is that what I'm hearing?
Exactly.
Exactly, Seb.
And there are people, granted, should people be serving 10, 12, 14 years in prison for their actions that day?
Probably not.
But does that mean they deserve a pardon at the same time?
People like Ray Epps, people like John Sullivan, who collected his $70,000 paycheck from CNN and NBC for reporting that day.
I just don't feel that they are in the same category.
That's the BLM anarchist.
Who pretended to be MAGA and then filmed the murder of Ashley Babbitt, correct?
Exactly.
Wow.
They're not in the same class of people as many of the J6ers or my nephew.
I don't know the best way to do this.
I should probably do this in person, but...
I just want to say right now in front of millions of people, Jerry Perner, that you're not just a credit to the memory of Matt, but you're a real hero because you never stood down and you're an inspiration to people like me as well.
Thank you, Jerry, for never ever backing down.
Thank you, Seb.
I can't.
I have to do what's right.
And even though some of the times that I have spoken out about the blanket pardons have been unpopular among many people, nobody except me and the other families who lost their loved one, who aren't going to be at a pardon ceremony, could ever understand how I feel.
Well, you know what?
I hope to see you at a pardon ceremony where you receive what you should receive in writing posthumously for Matt Perna.
Please go right now.
I look forward to that.
So do I. RememberingMattPerna.com RememberingMattPerna.com And follow her.
Jerry with a G. Jerry Perna.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First. - And I wish they could follow me on Twitter.
Do you know I'm being censored right now?
Oh, I believe you.
I believe you.
I posted a picture of Hunter Biden in his underwear, and I received a warning from them saying that I now have a sensitive content warning.
So every picture, even if it's of my dog or of Matt— Will you text me a tweet about your being censored, and then I'll tag Elon?
Yes.
Oh, I would so appreciate that.
And I'll even text you the meme that I posted.
Just send me a tweet.
No, the best thing is text me a tweet with the screenshot of whatever they messaged you that, you know, you are now in the sin bin.
Send me that.
I will do that.
Oh, thank you, Seb.
Yeah, of course.
You're the best.
All right.
God bless.
Hope to see you in a not-too-distant future.
God bless you.
I hope to see you too.
Bye.
I'm looking forward to that tour of the White House.
Anytime.
Anytime.
Okay.
Bye.
Take care, my friend.
Bye.
You too.
Steve Tuttle for that and for Chris and Lee.
J6 colon.
It's not about blanket pardons.
What else?
Lee and Chris.
Lee.
It's not just the jihadi threat.
And then Chris.
MMGA, colon, the end of an era.
Yeah.
Alrighty.
One minute.
Any cuts you want to use here?
Yeah, I'll tee up ten.
Alrighty.
Oh, come in with one and the Nazi upturned.
Going with one and then tee up 10.
Yep.
Okay.
I think with respect to former President Trump, there's some question about whether or there's some question about whether or not it's a bullet or shrapnel that hit his ear.
So it's conceivable, although as I sit here right now, I don't know whether that bullet, in addition to causing the grazing, could have also landed somewhere else.
But I believe we've accounted for all of the shots and the cartridges.
Hey Jeff, do you think Chris Wray as director of the FBI, his time would have been spent better looking for jihadists in the U.S. military than cooking up theories about shards of glass cutting President Trump's ear?
I think you could say that.
Yeah, yeah.
Has he left yet?
He said he is resigning.
Do we know when he's actually leaving the building?
He said, I think it was the 19th or something.
Oh, the 19th.
He's got a lot of records to change.
Yeah, a lot of white-out.
What is it that Hillary used?
Bleach Pit, right?
Yes.
What a Bleach Pit.
I think he's got a special deal on Bleach Pit.
Let's talk about something amusing it was.
I'm not familiar with this woman.
Is she famous, Jeff?
Who is this lady who was with CNN, Whitney Cummings, for New Year's Eve?
She's a pretty popular comedian.
Yeah?
Yes.
Does she use dirty language, or is she clean?
No, she's not clean.
Yeah.
Eric, have you heard of this woman?
I have.
I believe she was at the roast of President Trump, if I remember, on Comedy Central.
I think she was one of the participants.
Do I see Alex?
Is that a meme?
Is that CGI? Are you back?
It's the real me.
Wow.
Are you refreshed?
I'm very refreshed.
Very refreshed.
Do you know who this woman is?
Have you heard of her?
No, I'm out of the loop on comedy.
I'm a serious person.
He's a serious dude.
He's a diplomat.
He's the in-house diplomat.
He's a serious dude.
This was funny.
I'm surprised they didn't grab the mic from Whitney Cummings with the Beta Boys at CNN. New Year's Eve, Times Square.
Cut 10. I love going around the country because you see that Americans really are more reasonable than they would be portrayed.
They're pretty great, and I'm playing bigger and bigger venues now.
I thought being a mom would mean that less people would want to come see me.
I'm now playing, you know, like 3,000-seat theater, which is about the viewership of CNN these days.
Not this show, though.
Nice, nice.
All eyes are on this show.
Wow, you're off airings today.
They didn't know how to react.
Nice 300-seat events bigger than CNN's viewership.
What's going to happen to CNN in the next four years?
Is President Trump being in the White House going to save them?
I hope not.
I think we have to get real media in the White House press corps.
Can't wait for Caroline Levitt's first day as the press secretary.
Stephen Chung as the press boss.
My gosh, comms boss.
It's going to be exciting.
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expressing desire to kill, desire to kill.
The ISIS flag was found in his vehicle, which he rented to conduct this attack.
Possible explosives were found in the vehicle as well.
And more explosives were found nearby.
So we have Biden slurring his way through information concerning the New Orleans attack, that it was ISIS-inspired.
In fact, Jabbar, the army veteran who killed 15 revelers on Bourbon Street, actually posted pro-ISIS videos prior to the attack, which is strange given that the...
Local deputy FBI field office lead said, no, no, no, not a terrorist attack.
I wonder why that is.
Could that be because the FBI has not been looking for jihadis in the last four years?
Remember what the FBI was actually looking for?
Here's Joe Biden just last year talking about what they thought was the big threat.
This is Cut 3. Stand up against the poison of white supremacy as I did my inaugural address to a single out as the most dangerous terrorist threat to our homeland is white supremacy.
The most dangerous threat to the homeland is white supremacy.
That wasn't just some throwaway political statement.
The Secretary of Defense shut down the Army, shut down all the armed services for months on end.
Why?
To search for white supremacists.
Maybe, if they'd been looking for jihadis, those 15 people would be alive today.
We'll continue the analysis in a moment, but as we continue the last few days of our show, we're going to thank somebody else who's been a stalwart supporter of America First and fighting for America on Capitol Hill and across the country.
We are delighted to be joined.
Sadly, the video isn't working, but we're going to have photographs of her and And I at CPAC and elsewhere, the CEO, the President of the Association for Mature American Citizens, Rebecca Weber.
Happy New Year.
Hello, Dr. Gorka.
Happy New Year.
Don't call me doctor or this interview will be over.
You are a friend of mine.
Call me Sebastian.
So let's talk about the last seven weeks.
How excited are the 2.3 million members of AMAC with regards to January the 20th, Rebecca?
Oh, they are just beyond excited.
You know, I will always remember 2024 as a year when AMAC members stood up and took action.
And that's exactly what we've got to do now more than ever.
We've got to get more and more Americans involved with AMAC. You know, we had over almost 3,000 AMAC members step up as poll watchers.
We have over 400,000 AMAC members as part of the AMAC Army.
But you know, Sebastian, what we need to do is ensure that our elections are free and fair.
We've got to stop non-citizens from voting in future elections.
We've got to encourage all eligible voters to get to the polls, and that's the work that we're going to be focused on, not just in 2024, but beyond 2024. And I'm real excited to share with you as well that we'll be tracking the first 100 days.
We've got the 100 days tracker.
So for everyone who's interested in learning more about what's happening and what kind of promises made and promises kept we're seeing, they can go to amac.us slash first100.
But we will be very focused on working alongside some great leadership.
We want to see the Trump tax cuts extended.
That's very important to AMAC members.
So tax reform is at the top of our list.
Of course, immigration is illegal immigration.
Devastating our country.
Devastating our cities and towns.
Our streets aren't safe.
We've got to be sure that we have secure borders and a sovereign nation.
So we have a lot of work cut out for us in 2025. First, 100. First, 1-0-0.
Wow.
Superb.
And we'll be updating that information on a regular basis.
And for those who aren't aware that AMAC provides all kinds of services and help with coverage and expertise, you're also doing AMAC Action.
What are these boot camps that you held throughout the year?
Who are they for?
What did you do at the AMAC boot camps, Rebecca?
That's a great question.
So it's all about each and every one of us.
Never underestimate the power of one person, and we're encouraging every American to get involved in some way.
So these boot camps are designed to help inform, train, educate, and motivate individuals so that they can take a part in their local community and beyond.
You see, when we go to Washington, D.C., and we say we have 2.3 million AMAC members, they listen.
The AARP, which is the behemoth, it's like the David versus Goliath story.
AARP has betrayed you.
If you're not aware of that, you've got to look up a lot of what they've been in support of, things like the Inflation Reduction Act, Medicare for All.
These are dangerous, dangerous policies for America.
So we are countering AARP. We need more members.
The more members we have, the more powerful your voice is in Washington.
The Bootcamp for Boomer events, we'll be doing them throughout 2025. We had some incredible events, including in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, where we had a good showing.
And we saw the impact of really mobilizing people.
We want to give every American A platform.
Your voice deserves to be heard.
And we've got to do this today more than ever.
I mean, it's...
Can you imagine if Donald Trump hadn't won?
Where would we be?
So it's very fragile.
Ronald Reagan said it.
You know, if we don't fight to protect and defend our great country, it can be lost in a generation.
We're going to make sure that doesn't happen.
That's why I want more people to go to amac.us.
AMAC.US. AMAC.US. Join today.
You mentioned another organization, AARP. I'm so glad I got to know you and the Association for Mature American Citizens because, like so many other Americans, I'm only 54 years old, but I thought AARP were good guys.
And thanks to what you've revealed, They're basically just a Democrat organization that is funding woke enterprises and also really doesn't give their members any kind of choice, do they?
They don't appear to, and we've done our research, we've looked into it, and I was shocked to see that although the majority of members, and Kimberly Strassel wrote a report in the Wall Street Journal many years back when Obama was in office, the numbers, the number of AARP members that were against Obamacare, they betrayed their members.
They did the same thing again recently with the Inflation Reduction Act, costing seniors a ton of money.
This whole Medicare rebate, I call it, scandal, if you will, that occurred just before the election to ensure that Medicare premiums wouldn't increase, they didn't talk about that.
They're not fighting on the Social Security front.
You know what I think it is, Dr. Gorka?
Unfortunately, when organizations like AARP get so big and so powerful, and you follow the money, and you see they're giving money to Planned Parenthood and that sort of thing, this is what we really want people to understand.
You have a choice, and the right choice for America and for our children and grandchildren is AMAC. So, everybody needs to go.
amac.us.org to join amac.us.org and then amac.us slash first 100 for the Trump administration's first 100 days.
But the final thing I'd like to discuss with you, and I'd like to thank you For your support, for your friendship.
Tell us about your father.
Tell us about the man who created this organization, Dan Weber, and why he really did it.
Because to go up against AARP, to create a new entity to represent Americans, why did he do that?
You know, my father, he cared a lot about people.
He also understood that life is short, and he thought, my God, what kind of a country are we leaving for the future generations?
He had real good insight and foresight, and he saw that there was a massive cultural shift in America that was happening.
I mean, he said, this isn't the America that I grew up in, and he became very concerned.
One story he shared with me that was a big decision for him I'm one of five children.
When I went through graduation, there was no prayer by a minister, a priest, or a rabbi.
And when he went to the school principal and said, what's up?
Why is that happening?
This is my other three children.
We all saw that.
And the school said we had too many parents that complained.
He said, there's a problem with that if here in America we lose our freedoms.
So these were the very reasons, you know, it's the kinds of things that people care about, rising soaring health insurance and health care costs.
There's got to be a way to let the free enterprise system work for itself.
So Dan had a lot of ideas.
So many of those ideas are currently in motion.
We've got a lot of ways to reduce the cost of health care, increase price transparency, and secure social security for future generations.
My dad, a great man, the great Dan Weber.
We keep his memory alive, Dan Weber, and we thank you, Rebecca, and your brother and the whole team at AMAC for doing what you do to tell the truth and for supporting millions of Americans across this nation through the Association of Mature American Citizens.
Join today, amac.us.org, and follow Rebecca at The Rebecca Weber.
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That was great.
Thank you, Rebecca.
Hi, I'm so sorry.
I don't know what the heck's going on with my camera.
Oh, it's typical.
Skype isn't the easiest.
Weirdest thing ever.
Thank you so much.
That was so kind of you to have me on.
I appreciate you so much.
Good, good, good, good.
Can't wait to continue in my new position as well.
So if you come to D.C., don't forget to give me a call.
I will see you soon, that's for sure.
Thank you so much.
God bless you.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Want to post that?
Yeah.
Okay.
Looks like we're going to be having another guest on in this hour.
I know.
Title for that?
The truth about the AARP.
Why does no one know what day it is?
That's what happens when you have a holiday in the middle of the week.
Thank you.
Christmas tree.
Put the mics on.
Happy New Year, Mike.
Happy New Year.
So, uh, have you got your ticket booked for the inauguration?
Yeah, I'm coming.
Yeah.
Good.
Hope to see you in perfect, in person.
Right on, absolutely.
How's business?
It's pretty good.
It's been, you know, it's our slowest time between Christmas and New Year's usually.
But, um...
Yeah, it's been pretty good.
We've gotten through all the attacks for the whole year.
Crazy.
Am I breaking up, or is that a good signal, you guys?
It's good.
Yeah, the sound went down.
Is the sound dropped down for a reason, or is that just me?
Are you good at your end?
I didn't hear the sound drop.
Okay, then it's just me.
Here, let me try.
No, no, it's okay.
Mike, we just lost you.
Okay, good.
No, no, no, you didn't.
You there?
Good.
Yeah, we got you.
Now the sound should really be good.
It sounds a lot better now, right?
Good.
It's excellent.
Excellent.
All right, so I'm going to tee up cut two for Mike.
Two.
After I do, I'll do sat phone.
Sat phone, yeah.
Okay, sat phone here.
Did you ever play the Mariah Carey Christmas song?
Don't you play that once a year?
I don't think so.
Wasn't that the first thing we played?
No, we didn't play it this year.
Oh dear, you better come in with that.
No!
You better come in with that.
Then we'll know that Alex has finally returned and it is not an AI. And New Year's is over.
Christmas and New Year's is over.
Doesn't matter.
Play it.
Why you gotta do that to me, Alex?
Alex is just being undiplomatic.
He's a troublemaker.
Alright, 30 seconds.
tomorrow I carry.
I carry.
America First, MAGA News.
Magnificent.
What's going on?
It's January the 2nd, Alex.
What's going on?
I just realized that we have not played Mariah Carey's All I Want For Christmas Is You song this year.
And that just cannot be permitted to occur, correct?
And our next guest has a Christmas tree in his...
That's your excuse.
Alex is back and he's causing trouble.
But if you're a good Christian or a good mackerel snapper like me, there are 12 days of Christmas, right?
12 days.
It goes all the way, guys.
All the way to the 6th.
Ooh, is that my last show?
Isn't that ironic?
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Look, President Trump is a lion.
What happened at Butler, what he's been through for the last nine years, it's kind of unique, really.
I mean, it is the complete apotheosis of courage of manhood.
But he's not the only one.
There are people he likes and people who've supported him for a long, long time who, well, even in the White House, as successful businessmen, are prepared to tell the truth.
God gave us grace on November 8, 2016 to change the course we were on.
God had been taken out of our schools and lives.
A nation had turned his back on God.
And I encourage you to use this time at home to get back in the Word.
Read our Bibles and spend time with our families.
That man is one of the greatest supporters of this show for the last six years.
A great friend to Salem, a great friend to the Republic.
Michael Lindell, Happy New Year.
Happy New Year.
And you see the tree, why can't every day be like Christmas?
Remember that song?
Oh yeah, exactly.
And if you go to MyPillow.com, every day is Christmas.
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Mike, tell the story again.
And I want to say thank you for your support.
Tell the story of that speech you gave in the Rose Garden and how it wasn't exactly fully planned out, was it?
No, it really wasn't.
You know, I was called to the White House.
This was like maybe a week before, a couple of weeks before we all went into lockdown for the virus.
And I remember getting invited to the White House on a Thursday.
And it said, and I'm signing my books and they go, and my assistant says, I said, yeah, tell them I'll come.
It was invited to the White House for a manufactured, like a roundtable thing.
And I said, she says, well, you have to have approved remarks.
I go, I go, approved remarks.
I said, what are you talking about?
She says, yeah, they want to know what you're doing for the pandemic and what we're doing as a company.
I said, oh, just write down whatever you want.
Well, so she wrote the stuff down.
I said, I've been to those little roundtables.
Before, you don't have to get them approved.
I said, that's what I thought anyway.
So I fly into D.C. and I get there and to the White House and we have this big, there's about three manufacturers there and And we go around the table and the president wasn't in there yet.
The vice president wasn't.
He asked what each one of us is doing.
I said, we're converting over our whole company, about half of it, to help with this Mickey Mouse and stuff and whatever it was.
And anyway, then the president came in and he says, He went around the table again and asked us all and shook hands, whatever, and said, Dave, how's, you know, what y'all doing?
Welcome.
And then he went to leave, and I asked the vice president, I said, what about these remarks we were supposed to read?
And he says, oh, no, you might be called out at the Rose Garden here.
You might be called out.
And I wasn't paying attention that they were doing these press conferences every day.
So I didn't have a clue what was going on at that time.
And...
I said, really?
Well, then we go into the Oval Office and I'm sitting there Next to this Dr. Burke, and it was very uncomfortable.
I turned to her and said, you know, what are you here?
Or who are you?
And she said, Dr. Burke.
I said, why are you here?
You know, I just didn't register because I thought she was with some of these manufacturers.
And she kind of gave me this look.
And anyway, it was like a very uncomfortable feeling, like being in an elevator.
Like, what do I say now?
Well, that moment in time, I go, oh, I act like I'm doing something.
So I pulled out those notes of what my assistant had wrote.
At that moment in time, I flipped the note over.
I said, I'm going to write something really good.
I'm not going to say this stuff out there.
So I wrote what you just seen on the tape there, everybody.
But when I wrote it, I was crossing stuff off and making lines down below.
And you know how you do that?
You cross this up and connect it down here.
And I was just about to rewrite it.
The president slaps me on the back.
He goes, come on, Mike.
A hundred million people are going to see this.
I'm going...
I'm looking at my notes.
And so that's how that came to be.
But when I got out there...
If you watch the beginning part of it as I, and I went right at the podium, there was no, I kind of was looking at my notes and I kind of like, This thing I had wrote, and I looked around and nobody was by me.
It's like you lose your group.
And so I'm asking the Secret Service, where do I sit?
I didn't get any instruction or whatever.
And then when he called us all up on stage, I went right up the stage.
None of it was scripted.
I was just like, okay, I stepped up.
So then it was just me and the president.
As you guys see when I'm reading that, because when I'm reading the first thing that my assistant had wrote of what we were doing for the pandemic, I turned to him and said, do you mind if I say something off the cuff now?
And he's, okay.
And that's when I started reading that.
But just the expression on his face is, because he's looking at what I wrote, he's either going, What is he saying?
Or how are you even reading your writing?
How are you even reading that?
When I completed it, I turned to him, and he grabbed the microphone.
He goes, I did not know Mike was going to say that, but he's a friend of mine.
Thank you, Mike.
Because that exploded.
That tape...
I did 109 interviews over the next five days.
You would think half the world thought that I... How dare him talk about God?
We know why it exploded, because you're standing next to the most powerful man in the world.
You're in the Rose Garden, and you talked about God, and you talked about the Bible, and you talked about faith.
Sadly, we're out of time.
I just want to thank you for the last six years for your support, for supporting President Trump.
And I hope to see you at the inauguration in just 18 days.
He's so smooth.
He said, I was there to sign my books.
Of course, he mentioned his book.
He just slid it in there.
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All good.
Thanks, buddy.
Hey, buddy.
Hey, buddy.
Happy Friday.
Oh, well.
All right.
Good timing.
Good timing.
We're going to basketball game more anyways, huh?
Oh, yeah?
Somebody we know, who I had coffee with today, a very good person, said that somebody called Carafano would come in...
Mic's off.
What?
Walt can pre-record tomorrow at 1.45.
1.45?
Yeah.
Is the calendar open?
Let me check.
Is that from Hewitt?
It should be.
Yeah.
Good.
Excellent.
Confirm.
That was the best hint, by the way.
He's such a great...
Mike.
He's just so great.
He's just so great.
Watch the clock.
But what a great story.
It's like, yeah, the White House.
Like, oh, yeah, we're going to...
Let's write something down.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, actually, I want to find that book.
What was your book?
It was just Homeland Security, right?
It was.
It was just called Homeland Security.
What was it, blue or black?
It was a black cover, right?
Yeah, it was three editions.
Yeah, one volume, but multiple editions, right?
Yeah.
Oh, here we go.
Yeah, with the helicopter.
Oh, yeah, there's Pentagon Burning, and then there was the newer one, second edition.
I don't even remember the third one.
Any cuts you want to use here?
No.
Yes, I'm going to use the Homan we haven't, and I'm sending you an image of Jim's book.
That would be such a hard book to update now, because you have to explain the politics, right?
It's very sociological as well as the policy.
Yeah, yeah.
And that's...
Alright, so we'll do...
Are you referring to Brutal War, Seb?
Huh?
Were you referring to his book Brutal War?
No.
No, no, no.
Another book.
Oh, another book.
Let's talk to you, Joe.
Dr. G is ready for anything on America First.
Especially when I have guests appear out of nowhere because they think it's Friday.
You've got to be, as the Marines say, Semper Gumby!
And we are here.
It's a delight to have him here because the timing couldn't be better.
He wrote a book, which was in its third edition, that I used to teach when I was...
The Associate Dean at National Defence University, and it is literally the textbook on homeland security, and there couldn't be a more apposite guest for the show today.
Jim Carafano, Senior Counselor to the President of the Heritage Foundation.
Happy New Year!
Well, I was excited to come.
I couldn't miss the end of an era here.
And you've been supporting us since the get-go, so thank you, mate.
Well, that's true.
So if you actually got a copy of this book, what you would find out is nothing in it is useful.
Because in the last four years, this administration has diverted, diminished, disabused, Abolished everything we created since 9-11 to actually combat terrorism.
It's either gone or it's used for some other purpose.
So a purely policy-based analysis of homeland security doesn't work without the broader context.
Right, because it's literally, everything was, if you had a filter that just said politics, everything was poured into to fit the politics of the administration.
And this is true for every federal agency, but it's most startlingly true for the Department of Homeland Security because it was purpose-built.
It was built for one thing, which was to prevent the next 9-11.
And literally in the last four years, the department's been doing anything but that.
Well, let's listen to the man who's going to be central to fixing all of that, working hand in glove with Secretary Noem as the Secretary of Homeland Security, with Stephen Miller inside the White House, the genius behind our first immigration policy under the first Trump administration.
Tom Homan will be a real border czar, and he just made a very simple statement.
Cut six, Tom Homan.
Just another danger this country faces because this country's been lax on national security in groups like this been emboldened.
I mean, when you've got, you know, protesters walking down the street to New York City carrying terrorist flags, chanting death to Israel and death to the United States, and nothing's being done about it.
And when you have a border that was secure under President Trump and this administration unsecured it on purpose, it's an open invitation for those around the world that hate this country.
Unsecured on purpose.
Now the detractors, the deniers have criticized President Trump for saying, you know, this threat is a result of what happened with the dismantling of the borders.
But then Stephen Miller made this incredible comment yesterday.
He said, well, of course, even if the jihadi murderer from New Orleans was born and raised in Texas, global jihadism isn't organically part of America, It came in from the outside.
That's a really great comment, but fixing the border and immigration is only part of this.
And Tom's going to do his part, but there are so many other pieces.
As you well know, first of all, the most important thing is It's not whether it's a gun or a knife or a dirty bomb.
It's the perpetrator.
It's not the knife or the gun or the truck, Ford truck that kills anybody.
And so you know this really well.
It's called get to the right of the boom, right?
So you want to interdict the terrorist network as far to the right as you can.
So in a perfect world, you would wipe out the leadership.
You would take down the network.
If you couldn't do that, you'd go after the money.
And then you work your way down.
But at the very least, you'd rather catch a perpetrator...
Yeah.
Before they pull out of the garage with the IED in it, right?
And having said all that, right, you still need to do the basic blocking and tackling of protecting the American people because you never can assume you're going to be 100% correct.
And to me, this is the glaring problem with both Vegas and New Orleans is that the fundamental basic blocking and tackling of physical security and public safety was not adhered to.
I mean...
This may shock you.
You probably never heard this in the army, right?
But if you have an obstacle that's not really an obstacle, it's not an obstacle.
And they just removed the bollards on Bourbon Street.
So if you can drive around the police car and get on the sidewalk and kill people...
If you haven't seen what Jim is talking about.
So they were reconstructing Bourbon Street.
They'd removed the bollards.
There was this low-lying thing.
And you can see Jabbar in his rented white pickup truck just jump the curb and go around the traffic into the humans.
And how is it to prevent that?
And the answer, it is not frickin' hard, right?
And the notion that you would leave that kind of wide-open vulnerability on New Year's Eve and Bourbon Street, I mean, that's just, no, I'm sorry, that does not cut, that, they should all be fired.
Yeah.
Add to that, no surprise.
If you haven't seen it, go to my Twitter feed, go to my Truth Social feed.
Not only is it the deputy FBI agent in charge with her nose ring saying it's not a terrorist attack, we also have what?
We have the chief of police.
I mean, is anyone surprised that the chief of police...
Her last post was Oakland in California.
I don't think anyone is surprised.
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Oh, wow.
Because he had a co-author and the co-author bailed on him.
I know how he got my phone number.
He just called me up and said, hey, do you want to write that?
And it wound up, I wrote like 98% of it.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
And then I went to the thing and anyway, it's fine.
Whatever.
It's fine.
And then, yeah, so we got through three editions.
It was mandatory reading for us.
What was great about writing a textbook was I was teaching Homeland Security for years.
I was teaching Homeland Security for years, and so I wrote the textbook based on the teaching, which is the way to write a textbook.
And then what was cool was I got to update it because things really changed.
But it would be hard to update now because you'd have to explain to people that It was dismantled.
What Homeland Security looks like has everything to do with politics.
It would be a book about politics.
It wouldn't be a book about Homeland Security.
The sad thing is, in the Trump years, they had it just about right.
They were probably hitting it 75%.
There was some Yahoo stuff, but the last two years were pretty decent.
Kelly would have been great if he'd just stayed there and done his job.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Yeah, totally.
We all know that's true.
Yeah.
Do you see this thing with Henri?
You remember Henri, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he wrote an op-ed the other day that said, Elon Musk is a threat to national security because he's doing the Chinese bidding because he has all his Chinese business.
I'm like, no.
A, that's not right.
And B, you know, he's not going to know Donald Trump how to deal with China.
So that's funny.
I just love these.
It's so transparent.
You know, he's the real president.
Have you been alive for the last 50 years?
Do you know who Donald Trump is?
It's like, Elon Musk is like, I have an opinion.
If you don't like Elon Musk's opinion, don't listen to it or disagree with it.
He's not throwing his $3 trillion, whatever, or whatever he has behind the opinion.
He's just saying, I have an opinion.
Like, excuse me.
And the Germans are like, oh, they're all upset because he has an opinion.
It's like, okay, so disagree with him.
Nobody ever attacked joint swords.
Nobody ever attacked.
Whoever on the Democrat side thought it was okay to have that dementia addled, barely animated carcass behind the most important desk in the entire world owes all of us a big apology.
They have cost American lives, they've cost lives around the world, and now we're paying the price.
We need leadership.
When Donald Trump was president, He kept all these kind of attacks away from our shores.
Even as president-elect, he's done more than Biden has by threatening Hamas, telling them to get the hostages freed.
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Especially because of the people President Trump is bringing in.
My boss, as of 12.01 that day, will be former Green Beret Mike Waltz, who said something very simple about how we should be doing counterterrorism.
Love to get your reaction.
Incoming National Security Advisor Mike Waltz, cut 12. We've got to take a hard look at our defenses.
First and foremost, close our border, where we've had over 300 people on the terrorist watch list traverse our border in the last years, number one.
Number two, I'll remind everyone, just in the last year we had eight ISIS operatives rolled up, surveilling sites to hit in three different cities.
A number of them from that cell are still unaccounted for, based out of Tajikistan.
And there's a defensive aspect of this, the law enforcement and intelligence, and then there's the offensive aspect.
And taking a hard look at our strategy overseas, our posture, our basing for our special operators and our intelligence operatives to keep a lid on ISIS, Al-Qaeda, and others, whether it's Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and other places where they may be plotting and planning to hit us.
This is such an important aspect of President Trump.
He's not an interventionist, but he understands isolationism doesn't work.
And going on the offensive, when you have four of our servicemen and women murdered in Jordan by an Iranian drone, one of U.S. ships being targeted by the Houthis, it's not just about the CONUS, the continental U.S., is it, Jim?
Yeah.
So we should run the tape from last week when I said you were going to have the most important portfolio in the White House, right?
And we can go through all the reasons why counterterrorism is on the rebound, but in terms of stopping it, the key words that Walt said was offense-defense, right?
The offense-defense mix.
It's the most stable, deterrent environment environment.
You can have.
And we've got, actually, four case studies in Homeland Security.
If I went back to rewrite the textbook now, I'd say, look, you've got the Bush model, which, let's be honest, there was a lot of knee-jerk act before thinking in that response.
Then you had the Obama, which was deliberate indifference.
Which we forget, it was under Obama because of the withdrawal from Iraq that we saw the explosion of ISIS, that really metastasizing.
Then we had the Trump.
And then we had Biden, right?
And what we've seen of all these models is the Biden-Obama models of do less.
Only leads to more, and the Bush model of this kind of over-aggressive knee-jerking thing is wrong.
The only model that's worked is the Trump model, which is, on the one hand, protect your people, but on the other hand, demonstrate peace through strength, both the willingness and the capacity to go out and defend your interests, if it's in your interest to do that.
You talk about red lines, but when you see the Wagner Group running around the Middle East, you whack them.
When you see Syrian Air Force prepare chemical weapons, you don't say, don't do it, Mr. Assad.
You just dropped 52 cruise missiles.
I think that's exactly right.
It's remarkable that we actually have an opportunity to have a leader come back who's demonstrated leadership and can do this again.
There's a reason why George Marshall led the military in the Second World War.
He was actually one of the most effective military leaders in the First World War.
He never was under fire in World War II, but he was under fire in World War one, right?
And he saw the front lines and he saw what war is like and he knew how to do that.
So we are so blessed to have a president again who really knows how to do this.
But again, this is why your portfolio is really so important because it only comes together in one little office in the entire U.S. government with the three-plus million employees.
And that's that little tiny office either in the West Wing or over in the old executive office building where a person sits down and says, we need offense?
We need defense, and they need to work together.
And the person that does that, that's the guy that's keeping you safe, ladies and gentlemen.
Thank you.
Thank you for the vote of confidence, Jim.
I know you don't do predictions, but I've got to ask you, little shades of 79, 1980. President Trump didn't just tweet it.
He said at Mar-a-Lago on New Year's Eve, the hostages must be released.
Do you expect something to happen in the next 17, 18 days?
Well, the short answer is I don't know, but What we've seen in this situation, which I think is identical to what we're seeing in the example of the Ukraine war, is when President Trump says no mas, there are consequences for that.
And then either very publicly or behind the scenes, they tell you what the consequences are.
And then if you don't do that, you get hammered with the consequences.
And it's like, dude, your call.
Do the math.
And so I expect either people will make the play and give the president what he wants or live with the consequences which are going to make life really miserable and bad for them.
Be a rational act.
Make the right decision.
Jim, thank you for all your support over the last six years.
You've been a real mensch.
Yeah.
God bless, brother.
God bless.
Don't be a stranger.
Next time, I'll be interviewing you.
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And the same man who stood there and mouthed the words fight, fight, fight with blood on his face after being shot by a wannabe assassin.
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Some of whom, well, let's be clear, at least 3 million of them.
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The new dawn is coming in just 18 days.
So take heart, my friends.
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In the meantime, as we open the show, remember, you and your loved ones are on the front line of the war against global jihadism.
As such, you need to be responsible for your safety and the safety of your loved ones.
Keep your head on a swivel as I sign off every single day.
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An expert on drones, on cyber warfare, on disinformation.
Very special one-on-one with our good buddy, Ryan McBeth.
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A cyber-extraordinaire expert, a YouTube phenomena, and a man who I'm very glad to have called until I had my last show on Newsmax.
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From the Ryan McBeth programming channel on YouTube, Ryan McBeth, welcome back to America First.
Thank you.
It's always a pleasure to come on the show.
Thank you so much for inviting me.
So I just want to talk about the whole phenomenon that is Ryan McBeth.
Your videos.
We'll give an example of just a couple of things you've put up recently.
Have you got the image of just the top of his YouTube feed recently?
Oh, yeah.
Syria explained in 14 minutes.
You are a brave man, Ryan McBeth.
And then the thing that kind of...
Introduced you to me originally when my son saw an absolutely viral video of yours about a Russian tank turret blowing off in the middle of nowhere.
And that's the nature of warfare today.
And that is the future of drone operations, something which you are very, very familiar with.
So for those who have missed our prior discussions, let's start with a little bit of your background, because one of the things you have done very valiantly is to identify when people In the mainstream legacy media are woefully unqualified to talk about military things.
And you have a bit of a background in military affairs, don't you, Ryan?
Just a little.
I did 20 years on the Army side as an infantryman.
And while serving, I actually got my bachelor's degree in computer science, then a master's in engineering management, and then a They're a cybersecurity, an MSC in cybersecurity.
And eventually ended up working for Accenture doing C4ISR, basically finding bad guys.
Explain what C4ISR is for those who haven't served in the military.
Absolutely.
Command, control, communications, intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance.
So basically we find the bad guys.
It's the eyes and ears for the military.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So I ended up doing some work for them.
While working for them, I interviewed a guy who's a software engineer, and he didn't do well in the interview.
I thought, you know, this guy knows what he's talking about.
He just can't articulate it.
So I started a YouTube channel where I taught people how to answer interview questions while they're interviewing for a programming position.
And, you know, as it just so happens, the That content did okay.
Then the war in Ukraine happened, and I did a couple of videos on cybersecurity inside of Ukraine and why Russian tank turrets pop off their hulls, because I knew why.
And all of a sudden, I go from 5,000 YouTube subscribers to 50,000, and all of a sudden, I have a new career.
And a new career that has made you very, very successful.
In many cases, not just about the technological aspects and your background in cyber, but also this woefully undercovered issue.
Of disinformation and misinformation in the mainstream media, and especially when it comes to warfare coverage.
We'll talk about that in a moment.
But let's drill down on the expertise that I think is perhaps closest to your heart in terms of the changing battlefield, and that's drone warfare.
Now, I've seen this.
I've been teaching.
I've been involved in national security affairs since 1991. So there's always, you know, the guy who says, Oh my gosh, warfare's completely changed.
It's the 48th generation.
It's this, it's that.
It's the new dimension.
And they usually flash in the pan or a good way to sell books.
Tell us about why drone warfare, although we've had aerial platforms for over a hundred years, manned aerial platforms and balloons, Why drones should be treated a little bit differently?
Give us the bottom line up front.
Why is drone technology significant for the millennia-old practice of warfare?
Well, the first reason, and probably the most important reason, is that it democratizes persistent strikes.
It wouldn't be all that difficult for a terrorist To take a civilian drone platform and rig it, not even with a bomb, but just a dart.
There's something that they can drop from a platform on top of somebody's head.
And that was the kind of technology that prior to 2003, 2004, when the civilian drone market started to become popular, it just wasn't...
In reach of terrorist operations.
And now, your average garden-variety terrorist can go to their equivalent of Radio Shack, buy a drone for $2,000, and have a precision strike platform, and have a precision ISR platform.
They can now act as eyes in the sky for insurgent operations, all for Let's talk about what's novel about that, because in terms of gathering information from a non-permissive environment or guiding munitions in a very,
very accurate fashion onto your target, that capacity in the past Either required nation state assets or budgets, satellites, GPS systems, cruise missiles.
The big difference is now you don't have to be a nation state to afford it.
You're absolutely correct.
And imagine if Fidel Castro had drones, right?
Now, if Fidel Castro wanted to attack one of Batista's military bases, well, he'd have to get an insider in there to tell him what the base looks like.
He would have to have someone draw a map.
He would have to do this.
He'd have to do that.
And if Fidel Castro had access to drones, he'd be able to fly a drone right over the base, map out where everything is, bring it right back.
They might not even hear it.
So it is certainly a game changer when it comes to ISR and precision strike because it gives that capability to people who never had it before.
You focused your comments on non-state actors, terrorist use of these weapons, which of course is a great interest to me as I prepare for my new work in the National Security Council.
But talk to us about non-terrorists and state actors and tell us what we've witnessed in the last three years on the tragic battlefield that is Ukraine when it comes to, you know, People who are traveling into Ukraine from Poland, journalists who saw just these stockpiles at this train station of UAVs that literally had been bought off Amazon.
Talk to us about how it's been not a force multiplier, but really a quasi-leveler for the Ukrainian government forces.
You know, if you want to think in bigger terms, the real impetus behind Ukraine's use of drones was President Biden's failure as a commander to get Ukrainian munitions that they needed.
Now, whenever you use a drone, especially in what's called an FPV mode, where you're using a first-person view, and you strap an explosive to it, and you go after a single person, you are losing that drone.
And I think Ukraine is going through about 10,000 drones a month.
Now, what you should use that drone for is ISR, Intelligence Surveillance Reconnaissance.
You find where the bad guys are, and then you send artillery or precision munitions toward the bad guys.
And because we gave Ukraine just enough munitions to lose, and that is a failure of this president, that Ukraine had to somehow compensate for that.
And they compensated with it by creating drones that could drop explosives or drones that were the explosive in addition to ISR drones.
So Ukraine was literally forced into this because of the incompetencies of President Biden.
So because of the lack of access to the, you know, the real mother of the battlefield, which is artillery, and these are unclassified, you can see these videos, you literally see, you know, a commercial drone bought by the Ukrainians dropping a hand grenade or an RPG warhead through the turret, open turret of a tank because necessity is the mother of invention, correct?
Yeah.
You're absolutely correct.
And it's something they became very skillful at.
But you also have to wonder how many lives could have been saved had we gotten the right munitions to Ukraine at the right time, as opposed to the other policy, which was, let's not make Russia mad.
That doesn't work in warfare.
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Ryan, I think it's undeniable to state that the incredible improvisational measures taken by Kiev and Ukrainian forces were a function of not adequately supporting them at the beginning from those who have an interest that nations shouldn't be invaded in Europe.
We can pull back a little bit and draw what we can already as the requisite conclusions for US forces and for future wars.
If you look at how the Ukrainians have, you know, With duct tape and bailing wire, really exploited an erstwhile civilian technology.
What do our forces have to prepare for?
Is it just newer, more, sexier drones?
Or is it anti-drone technology?
This is unclassified as well.
We know the Russians are using very, very, Very high energy microwave emitters to literally fry UAVs out of the sky.
What do we have to think of as a new administration takes the reins in terms of exploiting this technology for our troops' benefits?
Well, we need to think about drone swarms, and at least the adversary of drone swarms.
And one of the things that we need to think about is how to counter these swarms.
Because if we are using a $1 million missile to shoot down a $2,000 drone, that is not sustainable, right?
We need to think about how we can do counter drone with near future systems right now.
Because trying to shoot them down kinetically, it's not going to work.
And even using electronic warfare, which we thought in the past would work, might not work, especially if some of these drones are autonomous.
You give these drones mission parameters, you allow them to kill electronically, and you send those drones out.
Those drones can't be jammed, they can't be stopped using electronic warfare because everything is internal.
It's probably using either inertial guidance or terrain pattern matching guidance.
So we need to be thinking about that.
How will our adversaries use these weapon systems to overwhelm our defenses and then send in the real killers?
That's kind of number one.
And the second thing we need to be thinking about is how we're going to use drones on the offense.
You know, there have been some ideas of getting troops as well as a squad their own drone.
And that might not be a bad idea, but remember the U.S. Army fights as a platoon.
And we have different squads, separate squads, but typically we tend to fight the platoon.
And all the squads are supporting the platoon's effort and all the platoons are supporting the company's effort.
So we might not It might not be a bad idea to think of a way of getting a drone specialist down at the platoon level, and perhaps even at the company level, establishing a warrant officer type program where you have an ISR officer, what I like to call the swarm officer, which is probably the coolest name for a position ever.
And this swarm officer, you make him a warrant, that way he has no other job other than to do drone stuff.
It gives him motivation to stay Army.
And you have a path to reach that swarm officer, war officer rank through the platoon as you come up through the ranks.
And I think that by doing that, what we'll get is a subject matter expert who will stay long-term within a company and become that teacher that can teach about drones and can actually manage the drone fight.
So the commander can actually concentrate on winning the battle, and the swarm officer will actually concentrate on how to use drones as effectors to help the commander do his job.
It sounds to me, and that makes a lot of sense, we're just talking about how to exploit a new technology down to the requisite level and kind of build in that expertise right down to at least the platoon level.
But beyond that, does the technology...
Change the way we fight in any significant way in terms of standoff, in terms of tempo, or is it just another technology like a scope on a rifle?
I think that it changes the masking spectrums.
Really.
That's what it changes.
So when you look at a typical military unit kind of before the advent of drones, they would use masking.
They would use camouflage, right?
You camouflage your equipment with branches.
You camouflage your body with a camouflage uniform.
But now we have to think in multiple spectrums.
We can't just think in the visual spectrum that we're used to.
Since the adversary can have drones that can do things like detect heat, We now need to think about what kind of radio spectrum am I emitting?
I think the days of the Taj Mahal Talk, the Taj Mahal Tactical Operations Center where the commander would sit, those days are over.
Because they emit too much radiation?
They emit too much radiation.
There's just too many.
Look, all these radio antennas coming out of it.
You've got the commander on the phone trying to fight the fight.
You have about 10, 12 people in that talk, and that is a big bullseye to any kind of drone that's looking for electronic munitions.
We also have to think about heat, heat coming off of our vehicles.
And an engine on a vehicle can be detected from very far away using thermal cameras.
So how do we supply soldiers?
We might have to go back to, as crazy as this might sound, go back to using things like pack animals in some cases.
Using back animals that give off less heat than an engine or using soldiers as porters, moving equipment from place to place just to reduce the amount of heat that we're actually emitting that a drone can detect.
So that's probably the biggest thing.
It's masking in multiple spectrums.
That's the game changer that we need to start thinking about.
So it sounds to me, I'm just trying to put it into other words, that I watched a fascinating video yesterday on stealth bombers, the proto-stealth B-1 originally, and then, of course, the F-117, etc., and then the Spirit.
We're going to have to think about not just sexy stuff flying up there that's stealthy, but making our warfighter on the ground a little bit more stealthy to the things that UAVs can pick up.
You're absolutely correct.
And some of that is on the soldier.
You can have the best armed battle plan in the world, but the second a soldier picks up his cell phone and takes a selfie with his GPS coordinates in it and posts that on Facebook, Well, now the adversary can go, oh, I've been following the soldier who just posted a picture.
I know exactly where he is.
Let's call in a high march strike on those guys.
And if you think he's exaggerating, he's not.
Just look at the open source stuff concerning exactly that from Ukraine where privates were taking selfies they shouldn't have been taking and then posting them.
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All right, let's get back to drones in the news and the New Jersey, the latest.
It's like, you know, the devil of New Jersey or the Sasquatch for, you know, weeks on end.
What's happening?
And one very viral video, a drone manufacturer said, a guy told me that they lost a nuke in the Ukraine in the 1990s and these drones are searching for that nuclear warhead.
A, one source concerning a nuke from 30 years ago.
There are problems with that to begin with.
But Ryan, you did a great response to this.
Anybody who's just studied a little bit of...
High school physics should know.
When we get into the administration, I think we'll deal with this issue and the president will explain it to everyone after drowning the 20th.
But let's knock this on the head.
Why is there a problem with using UAV drone technology to look for loose nukes in New Jersey?
There's a couple of issues to it.
The first is that radiation spreads out from the source.
And there's something called the inverse square law, which for every double distance, the radiation goes down by a factor of four.
So if you're trying to search for radioactive materials, you have to be fairly close to the source.
Now, the U.S. does have a team called the NEST team, the Glimmer's Your Response Team.
Those guys, they'll fly like a helicopter over a stadium before a football game, and they'll do that, and then they'll fly it over during game day just to see if the background radiation has changed.
But that stuff like that is for a dirty bomb.
Nuclear weapons are actually fairly well shielded because if they weren't well shielded, they could pose a danger to their operator.
Not a lot of radiation is actually getting out of a nuclear weapon, even one that had been manufactured in the 80s or 90s.
And kind of the other issue Any nuclear weapon that was manufactured in the 80s and 90s and has not been maintained is Probably not going to explode, or at least not explode, to the point where it would be useful as a nuclear device, and that's because things like batteries need to be replaced.
Explosives decay over time.
Even the plutonium inside the warhead, as it's decaying, it's creating little helium bubbles inside the plutonium, and you periodically need to remanufacture the plutonium because of that.
So something like that, it would be a great novel or a great James Bond movie, but it isn't very accurate when it comes to physics.
So, do you have a theory?
I'm sticking with the one that was shared with my radio colleague Chris Plan a couple of weeks ago.
Back in the summer of 23, Flying.com magazine reported that the FAA, the DOD, and the Department of Commerce approved a drone testing corridor through Pennsylvania, New Jersey and New York.
And the most likely explanation is that this is just a swarming of experimental drones of US origin.
Would you like to add anything to that?
What's your working theory?
I think that could certainly be the case.
I also believe it could be a red team.
So there may have been an exercise.
Explain the U.S. military concept of red teaming.
So, Red Team, essentially, if you ever read that Richard Moschenko book where he creates SEAL Team 6 and these guys, they go and penetrate bases to later give the commander an assessment of, hey, this is what it was like trying to penetrate your base.
Here's where you can make improvements.
This could have easily been a Red Team exercise where people knew what was going on.
But not everybody did because they're part of the exercise.
And in order to effectively do a red team exercise, not everybody can know what's going on.
So the right people might have known it was going on, but they couldn't say anything.
So actually, I'm kind of going with the idea that this sort of thing was a red team exercise.
Sounds likely to me, but it's not good for clickbait, is it?
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He did ask for topics to discuss, and I don't do that.
I don't give out topics in advance.
I want to do gotchas with my guests.
No, I don't.
I just want to have free, unfettered discussions.
And I apologize in advance, Ryan, if I didn't add this to the list.
I just said, we'll talk about your last videos and fun stuff like that.
It's such the rage.
I don't know if it's just a fashion thing.
President Trump is taking it very seriously.
I think last week he appointed three or four Thank you.
Thank you.
end of the world, the Terminator 2000s are going to come, and the other people who say, "No, this is a useful tool.
It's going to simplify very mundane work, and it's going to make things better for all of us." What is your expectation with artificial intelligence and the benefits or hazards?
Well, I guess to start, we've had killer robots since the 1980s.
The Patriot system is essentially a killer robot.
When it detects a theater ballistic missile coming in, you turn that thing on and it will automatically decide how to engage that threat.
The Aegis system on Navy ships like destroyers and Ticonderoga cruisers, that is a killer robot as well.
It's fully automated.
It talks to other ships and decides how it's going to engage air threat targets.
So we've had killer robots for a while.
I think that people kind of get freaked out when they think about robots killing human beings or robots sent out to kill human beings.
Here's the issue.
If we don't figure out how to do this ethically, the Chinese will, and they will figure out how to do it expeditiously as opposed to ethically.
And once the Chinese figure that out, then they can get inside our OODA loop or observe, orient, decide, act loop.
So if the Chinese are moving at machine speed, And we're still moving at human speed, we are going to lose the next conflict.
We need to really start thinking about AI in that sense.
Now, when it comes to the average sort of AI where you're using AI to help you draft a letter or to create a will, that kind of thing I think is going to help remove mundane tasks.
In jobs, things like proofreading.
If you're a proofreader, those jobs, I don't want to say they could be in trouble, but you might have less work to do and you might be more down to the fine polishing.
Other things with AI, like creating a will.
I mean, that's something that ChatGPT can do right now.
Then it's signed off for by a lawyer and they're done.
I would have a hard time believing that any lawyer likes doing wills.
Seriously, so why not offload that to AI and have the lawyer come in and do a review?
So I think that AI will eventually get to the point where it can do a lot of the mundane tasks that we don't want to do, which could mean trouble for some people if you were in a job that is essentially glue.
If the reason you exist is to get two departments to talk to each other, then your job might be on the chopping block, because AI can probably do that better than you, and certainly faster and cheaper than you, and it doesn't get tired.
But it sounds to me that if we take it seriously, you're an optimist on how we can exploit AI. I believe I am.
I believe I am.
And I say that because I've worked with AI, I've programmed AI, An AI before.
I've worked for a drone company that used AI. There's a lot of advantages to it.
One good example is if you have autonomous munitions.
These autonomous munitions will go and find the enemy by themselves, and if it detects, all right, this is a bad guy, it can drop a munition on that bad guy.
And people talk about mistakes.
What if the AI makes a mistake?
What if a human makes a mistake?
We shoot the wrong things all the time.
An AI might actually be better at identifying and servicing targets because the AI doesn't get scared.
It doesn't feel pain.
It doesn't get tired.
It isn't exhausted from staying up all night and being on a road march for hours.
So in some cases, AI could actually do target identification better than a person.
So it's not something that we should ignore as a possibility.
In recent months, as you spread your wings on your technical content that you provide on your YouTube channel, your analyses of what's happening in Ukraine, you ventured further afield into the strategic or the geopolitical.
And I want to recognize you here in front of millions of listeners and viewers.
For the stance you've taken with regards to pushing back on the nascent isolationism in certain parts of the U.S. political culture, would you talk about, as somebody who spent many years in the cloth of the Republic and now who's analyzing current conflicts, why something happening thousands of miles away needn't always be relevant to American national security?
Absolutely.
You can take a look at this pen right here.
I know the rubber for this thing comes from Indonesia.
The ink, it comes from Brazil.
The plastic is recycled, but initially it might have come from oil made in Saudi Arabia.
It would be great for us to produce these pens by ourselves in the U.S., but not a lot of rubber trees in Texas, right?
So we kind of have to recognize that we are a global economy.
And if you can take a pen and you scale it up to something like an iPhone, we might be able to manufacture the iPhone in the U.S., but some of the rare earth metals we might not be able to find here in the United States.
So we need a strong military to establish and protect those trade routes with other countries so we can live the American lifestyle that we're all accustomed to.
Isolationism, I've likened it before to building a fortress whose walls are so high that you fail to look over and see the threat on the other side.
Because I can tell you right now, literally as we speak, right now in Africa, you have people from Huawei in China.
Going over to Africa and they sit down with an African leader and they say, hey, we're going to give you 5G wireless service all over your country.
We'll do it for 20 cents on the dollar when you purchase our equipment.
Your economy will skyrocket because now you're Citizens will be able to use their cell phones to like, oh, here's the price of my goods in the market, and so on.
You'll be able to profit because you can skim 20% off for your own, you know, put your own cronies in there.
And all we ask is that you let us listen into your phone conversations every once in a while.
And then this African leader comes to the U.S. and says, hey, China just offered me a cell phone service for $20.
It's going to skyrocket my economy and make me rich.
What do you have?
And we go, oh, well, don't do that.
What deal are you going to take, right?
It probably benefits us to be engaged with foreign nations, especially when China is trying to do the same thing and also develop those relationships which can mine rare earth metals out of the ground.
Isolationism didn't work in 1941. It didn't work on September the 11th, and it doesn't work today.
Build the wall high and not see what's happening outside.
Not a strategic approach.
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Let's change the azimuth a little bit for the last couple of minutes we have with you, Ryan.
You've really exploded onto the social media scene.
You've been a great success in a very specific niche of countering disinformation and the new technologies of warfare.
What words of advice would you give to those who maybe likewise have a niche capability or expertise and want to, you know, dip their toe in the social media waters?
I know you're pushing up against censorship very often and demonetization, and that's why you're on Substack.
What advice would you give to the people who are trying to follow, perhaps, in your footsteps, but in another topic range?
Boy, that's a very good question.
I think that if you want to do the YouTube thing, I think one of the things you need to recognize is that it is a job.
A lot of people, I believe they think, oh, this is my side hustle.
I can work for a couple of hours.
When I make a video, typically one minute of footage takes about an hour's worth of editing and research.
Wow.
So if you make a 10-minute video, that's 10 hours of time.
Now, you might be able to do that in one day, like on a weekend, or you might have to do it over the course of multiple days.
But I think that's kind of the first thing, is to recognize that this is going to take some time, and you need to treat it like a job.
That's kind of number one.
And the second thing here is I would strongly suggest people do it.
Like, it doesn't...
Seriously, if you have this idea, it could be knitting.
You know, I'm really good at knitting...
Food.
I'm thinking of like a niche subject here.
Niche subject.
I'm really good at knitting or crocheting things that look like food.
If you're good at that, well shoot, make a YouTube channel.
You're going to make mistakes.
It's going to take a while for you to figure out your footing.
But eventually you will find people who are into that content and that information is going to start spreading and people might appreciate it.
So just my advice is just get started doing it.
Just do it and think less about what the audience will like.
And focus on your passion and what you want to provide content on.
And trust me, the audience will follow.
I want to say thank you to you, Ryan, for being so gracious with your time on numerous occasions, for always bringing gifts to the studio, and for also joining me at Newsmax.
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A happy new year.
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