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Why did I say that?
Why am I saying if anybody hears us?
I got a text message from Dr. Gorka just before we started the show, about 10 minutes ago to be precise.
And it was his message that he put on Twitter, in response to Mark Levin, the great one.
And the message that Dr. G sent was, let the radio wars begin.
What's he talking about?
He's talking about George Soros.
He's talking about the radical left attempt to silence the one dissenting point of view that continues to be the thorn in their side.
The burr under their saddle.
We are the pain in their ass.
That's what conservative talk radio is.
And they're doing everything they can to silence it.
They're going after Elon online.
They're doing everything they can to pass laws, to promote legislation, to silence the voices of people who dare dissent with the radical left government, the tyrannical Overreaching, authoritarian government that says, First Amendment?
What?
What are you talking about?
You don't have First Amendment rights.
What are those?
Those are not absolute.
You can't say things that aren't true, you know.
That's misinformation.
You can't spread misinformation or disinformation or malinformation that just gets in the way of our own narratives.
You can't do that.
Do that and watch and see how quickly you get booted.
Watch and see how quickly you get fined.
Hey, what the hell?
Watch and see how quickly you get put in jail.
They're doing it in former free Western democracies, like, I don't know, the United Kingdom?
They're doing it in France?
They're doing it in Germany?
What makes you think that the First Amendment is going to mean any more here in the United States than that pesky little Bill of Rights that it does with their versions of it in those other countries?
They're trying to silence us, and now they're coming for radio.
You knew this already, but I want to share with you what Seb linked to me, which he got from the great one, our colleague and patriotic friend, Mark Levin.
Mark Levin tweeted, breaking FCC Soros Enron around federal licensing rules to fast-track the sale of Audacity's 220 stations before the election.
is now under investigation by the House Oversight Committee.
The sale includes WPHT in Philadelphia, which just announced, out of the blue, it is dropping Mark Levin's show in seven days.
Mark Levin, one of the most powerful patriotic voices in media, radio in particular.
Obviously, Dr. Gorka is going to be on the line of fire.
Most of the Salem programming is going to be in the line of their fire, and they're doing everything they can.
Soros is buying 220 stations across 40 different U.S.
markets, and they want the ability to take over and change the programming before the election.
In case you're wondering, the number is 39 today.
I've been tracking this for the last two months, counting it down on my radio program here in Cleveland.
And so I do the Ohio number and then the national number.
11 days now until we early vote in Ohio.
It starts on October 8th.
11 days.
Probably a lot of other states that have 30-day early voting periods that are doing the same thing.
So in 11 days you can cast votes.
39 until actually Election Day on November 5th.
They are trying everything they can to make sure that all of the messaging that counters the left-wing narrative Um, that they can possibly quash.
They're going to quash.
They're trying to make sure that you don't hear the truth about what and who Kamala Harris is.
But the reality is what they're doing right now is exactly what we need to know about Kamala Harris, about Tim Walz.
I want to say something here as we get started.
And if you're getting itchy to call 833-33-GORKA, that's fine.
We'll get you.
Go ahead and get online if you want.
But I want to... name-calling in politics, as you know, has become a bit passe.
And I don't mean Trump making up names for people that he doesn't like, but, you know, the left, if they see anybody that is to the right of, you know, center, they scream, fascist!
Right?
Fascist and bigot and all of these other things.
And those of us on the right side of the spectrum look at a lot of people on the left side of the spectrum and scream what?
Socialist!
Communist!
Marxist, Maoist, and sometimes we say these things just because we're trying to make a point that they're an extremist and so forth, but you know, most of the people aren't actual avowed communists that don't believe in private property and don't believe in personal rights, they don't believe they should be able to advance and earn what they want to earn, that they should have to share all of their belongings and possessions with other people, and you know the drill.
I say that because when we call Kamala... Look what I just did.
That was accidental, I swear.
I just combined communist and Kamala Harris in one word and called her Kamala.
That was an accident, I swear.
But it does make the point.
After all, remember how mad they got when people started calling her a roll?
I have been for a long time calling her Kamala.
And I always tell people, I think I've said that to Dr. G's audience before, you.
You know, don't make the mistake of thinking it's Kamala, which kind of sounds like capitalist.
Kamala, capitalist.
Those don't go.
It's Kamala, which sounds, of course, a lot more like communist.
That's been just an accepted fact, and it's supposed to be that way.
That's literally, she'll tell you, it's Kamala.
When I call Kamala Harris a communist, it's not just name-calling.
And it's not just, you know, throwing out, you know, pejoratives at the opposing side and suggesting that these people are, you know, are aiming for the downfall of the country when all they really are is just, you know, social justice warrior Democrats.
They are not actual communists.
No, no, no, no, no.
When we're talking about Kamala Harris, we're talking about actual communism.
And it's not new found.
She didn't become communist when she became vice president.
She didn't become communist when she became a senator.
She's been a communist for virtually her entire life.
How do I know that?
Because I've talked to people who have chronicled her history in depth.
I was going to have on the program today, author and journalist and historian, political historian, Trevor Loudon.
He got a travel snafu, so he wouldn't be able to join us.
But I talked to him on my Strictly Speaking TV podcast about a month and a half, two months ago.
And he gave me the lowdown, because he had written a book about Kamala Harris, the communist.
Um, and he gave me a good hour and fifteen minute, um, primer on Kamala Harris and her communist upbringing.
Literally, her upbringing as a child, and then through her political upbringing into, you know, the, uh, into the Senate, and before that, of course, into being a California prosecutor and so on and so forth.
An attorney general.
So Trevor was going to come on, but he couldn't do it.
But I did interview him, as I said, on the TV side about two months ago.
I pulled just a three and a half minute clip that I'm going to share with you after the time out here.
So you can see what I'm talking about when I say from the beginning and what she is and who she is needs to be known between now and what they say, 11 days until we vote in the state of Ohio and a lot of other states, 39 days until we vote nationally.
These things must be known when we tell you this is a communism versus capitalism election.
It's not just right and left, and it's not just Trump and Harris.
It's communism and it's capitalism.
Head-on clash.
There's just no other way to see it.
If you don't believe me, stay right here on America First.
I will give you the evidence next.
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Alright, thanks Dr. G. Twenty minutes after the hour.
So, um, look.
Kamala Harris is a clown.
We know this.
We're supposed to laugh at clowns.
They make us laugh.
They're funny.
And it's true.
It's all well and good.
When she tosses her word salads and sounds like a complete buffoon when she's asked, what are your plans to lower the cost of living for the American people?
And she gives you, well, you know, I was raised in a middle class family where we liked our lawns.
We are ambitious, and people who are ambitious and who have goals and hopes and dreams should all have an opportunity here, and that's my plan.
I mean, when she does that stuff, it's either infuriating, and you want to punch cats.
Don't ever punch cats.
That's just a joke to talk about how literally mad it can make you.
When she infuriates you or makes you laugh, it's one thing, but we have to take it seriously.
Who she is and what she is.
She may be a clown, but she's a dangerous clown because she is one heartbeat, no, not a heartbeat, that's the wrong way to say it.
She's already the president.
She was a heartbeat away from Joe Biden, but Joe Biden's heart stopped a long time ago, or at least his head did and his heart hasn't caught up yet, but so she kind of assumed the mantle already, right?
And now she is on the verge of being president of the United States for a long period of time, at least four years.
At which point we will begin the systematic destruction of this country.
So my point here is we need to know exactly who she is and not just laugh at her cartoonish inability to communicate.
She's a dangerous person.
She is a communist and has been from the very beginning.
Historian, author and journalist Trevor Loudon was going to join us as I said.
I interviewed him in a long form hour plus long chat about a month and a half ago and Trevor gave us some of the backgrounder that you needed to hear.
You need to hear right now.
It's only about three minutes worth but I want you to listen to this and if you're watching you'll see Trevor Amidst some of the little graphics that I put on this thing when I posted it on my social media page as well.
But I want you to listen to the history of Kamala Harris and how she got where she is and the danger of having somebody who is an absolute communist in right now a coin flips race with Donald Trump to win the presidency.
We're talking about literally a coin flip situation here with polls in all of the battleground states within the margin of error no matter who is on top.
So that's how serious this is.
If you don't know who Kamala Harris is, please listen now.
Because everybody, you know, we're talking about the woman who may be the President of the United States six months from now.
Willie Brown was one of the leading communist supporters in the Bay Area for 50 years.
Nobody has brought this out.
Willie Brown was elected in the early 1960s with the help, first elected with the help of the W.E.B Dubois Club, the Communist Party's youth wing.
He worked very heavily with Bob Truehaft, one of the leading communists of the area, who just happened to give a young Hillary Clinton her first job out of law school, by the way.
Willie Brown was completely in bed with the Communist movement for 50 years, including for several years after his relationship with Kamala.
He was still sponsoring Communist Party dinners in the Bay Area in 1998, 2000, 2001,
five or six years after his relationship with Kamala.
Willie Brown is a hardcore Communist Party supporter since the 1950s.
But this is a pattern with Kamala Harris.
Everywhere she goes, she works with Communists.
Even her first job as an intern when she was at college, everywhere she leapfrogged to, there was a Communist to help her, a Communist to work for, a Communist to fund her, a Communist to date her, whatever it was.
They were all communists.
How did she find her way to these individuals?
Did she join the communist network?
Is that the way that worked?
She was brought up in it.
She is completely ambitious.
But she was chosen, like Obama, for big things at an early age.
She would have expected That her role is, she is going to be a leader of the revolution.
She would have known that since the teenage years.
And Obama, you know, when Obama left Hawaii and came to Chicago and New York, the networks were prepared for him.
You know, he just slotted straight in.
And same with her.
The networks have always been there for Kamala.
See, this is what the communists do.
They pick out promising young people of colour who have left-wing backgrounds, communist parents or whatever, and they do everything they can to promote them.
And that might be to get them on the San Francisco school board.
It might be to get them into a state rep's job, or on the board of a big foundation.
Or, like Kamala Harris, it might be to get them as high as they can take them.
But it's not the talent of these people so much, it's their ethnic background and their ideology that determines how far they rise.
Okay, so that's such a tiny little taste of the research that Trevor Loudon has done.
He's put into numerous books about this subject, and particularly about Kamala Harris.
His most recent book, Kamala Harris is a communist, okay?
Every step of the way, she has been surrounded by communists to help her along.
What do you think the goal was with Kamala Harris?
The goal was that she would succeed Barack Obama, who also had communist ties and communist training and communist roots.
She would be the next golden child, or to be more precise, red and golden child, the colors of communism.
You don't think it's a coincidence the Soviet flag and the communist Chinese flag look the way they do, do you?
So anyway, she was the next golden child.
She was supposed to be next up.
That's why in 2019 she ran.
Um, as a Uh, as a primary candidate and she launched that campaign in January of 2019 with millions and millions of dollars and tons of backers and about 20% support.
Um, and one of the very leading candidates, uh, in the primaries, uh, in the early part of 2019 she was a favorite.
Okay.
She had all of this money.
She had all of this backing and then she had to campaign.
Then she had to start talking.
Then she had to get on some debate stages and then people started to realize who she is.
And the more they heard of her, the more they realized she's an idiot.
The more they heard from her, the more they realized she's a communist.
The more they heard from her, the more they disliked her.
And by November, her campaign was broke.
In 11 months, she ran through all of that money, millions and millions, tens of millions of dollars, and 20-some percent support had been whittled down to one to two percent.
She ended her campaign on December 4th of 2019.
She never even made it into The election year of 2020.
She didn't even get to Iowa.
So she was supposed to be that.
She was supposed to be that woman, that next person of color, female as well, to carry the communist mantra forward.
Emphasis on the word forward.
After this time out, you're going to find out why she chose the campaign slogan she has.
We're not going back.
Forward together.
Keep those words in mind.
We're not going back.
Forward together.
It's not an accident.
It wasn't some brainstorm from some publicist.
It was an intentional nod to the Communist Party.
You don't believe me?
I've got receipts.
I will play that for you and share that with you coming up next.
If you get nothing else out of today's show, I want you to go into your weekend telling everybody you know, holy crap, we're about to elect a real, true, avowed communist.
Back on America First after this.
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I Bye.
I'm Seb Gawker.
Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
All right, Dr. G, thank you.
It's 33 minutes past the hour.
That means 27 before the hour.
Thanks for being with us on this Second Amendment Friday.
Yeah, we're going to be talking with John Lott a little bit next hour.
John Lott, the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, one of the... We're going to have a little fun talking about Kamala.
What kind of gun do you think Kamala owns?
Do you think she owns a car?
I doubt it.
I don't think she owns anything.
She was lying.
She wanted everybody's handguns to be taken away from them, and now she's bragging about how, man, you come through my house, you're gonna get shot.
Unbelievable.
So we'll talk about that.
But I want to get and stay on Kamala Harris, the communist.
You need to understand this isn't name-calling.
This is true observation and identification.
It's one thing to just call somebody a name.
Oh, you're a Republican, so you're a fascist.
No, you're an idiot.
You don't know what a fascist is.
You don't know what fascism is.
You don't know how closely related, quite frankly, it is to socialism.
You call Hitler a fascist, for crying out loud, it was the United Socialist Party.
So what we're talking about here when we say communism, we're not just throwing names around.
We're talking about true, a true belief in, a dyed-in-the-wool, trained and raised from birth all the way up through school-age years, into the professional years, and into some of the halls of power.
Kamala Harris is a straight-up communist.
Now, I mentioned to you about her slogan.
Her slogan for her campaign is, we're not going back.
You see it all the time.
You hear it in her speeches and then forward together or moving forward together, forward, forward, forward.
That is the buzzword.
Do you think that some, you know, public relations firm just sat down and strategized and brainstormed with her and said, well, we got to think of something uplifting.
We got to think about something that's forward thinking.
Do you think it was an accident?
I'm telling you something right now.
It was no accident.
It was intentional.
The language should sound familiar to you.
If it does not, I want you to listen to this.
I'm going to play for you.
This was a very astute content creator who posted this.
I listened to it, researched it myself.
It is 100% true about the Communist Party USA.
Wondering about this?
Search on your browser right now.
C-P-U-S-A dot, is it org?
I think it might be org.
But it's C-P-U-S-A.
It's Communist Party of the United States of America.
Watch and take a look and see what you see.
But for those listening right now, listen to this and if you're watching on the Rumble channel or Salem News or wherever, take a look and we'll respond after this.
We are not going back.
America is ready for a new way forward.
We are not going back.
We, together, will chart a new way forward.
We're not going back.
Together, we'll move forward.
We're not going back, forward together?
Folks, this has literally been the slogan of the Communist Party for the past 10 years.
I'm not even joking.
If you go to the Communist Party USA's website, three years ago, Communist co-chair Rosanna Cameron literally wrote an article titled, We're not going back, forward together.
Rosanna is a communist to and through, and she's unashamed of it.
That's how we communists work.
This is how you build that movement that's going to be the massive movement that we need to topple capitalism.
It's not a coincidence that this just so happens to be Kamala Harris' campaign slogan, nor did she plagiarize it from the Communist Party.
Communists have long acted as the kind of ideological undergird of the Democrat Party here in the United States, and Kamala Harris is just a continuation of that.
Again, for the past decade, communists have been giving speeches all over the country where they have the banner, we're not going back, plastered behind them.
them.
Chicago has produced more outstanding communist leaders maybe than any other place around
in a lot of ways.
So this begs the question, do you continue to pretend that Kamala Harris is not influenced
by communist ideology, choosing instead to blindly accept the Marxian policies that she's
pushing forward?
Or do you choose not to be the idiot they think you are?
They do think we're idiots.
And that content creator, I think his name is Chad Jackson or something, he stumbled onto something or researched something that I went ahead and followed up on, and he is 1,000% correct.
The banner behind the speaker in Chicago said, we're not going back, forward together.
That's what the banner said.
The speech given by the other avowed communists you heard at the beginning there was entitled, because they put the transcript on the Communist USA website, was entitled, we're not going back, forward together.
The word forward, if you don't know, it should sound even more familiar to you.
You know the last time it was used in a campaign?
It was used in 2012 in the re-election campaign of one Barack Hussein Obama.
Forward was their chosen word.
Forward is reflective of the conviction of European Marxists and radicals that their movements reflected the march of history forward past capitalism.
and into government-controlled societies under socialism and communism.
This was literally the Obama campaign released a massive seven-minute video talking about how forward, forward, forward, with the O in the word forward being replaced by the Obama O. Remember the insignia?
This is not new.
Open your eyes.
We'll be right back.
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All right, 17 minutes before the top of the hour.
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I'm looking forward to hearing what you have to say about Kamala the Communist.
And I tripped over myself and called her Kamala before, but you know what?
It friggin' works.
Kamala Harris.
It just absolutely works.
This is not name-calling.
This is straight-up observation of her entire political career, her associations, and her... By the way, you know what I didn't get to?
Her choice of running mates.
Is there, could there have been a more radical communist supporter to run with her than Tim Walz?
Tim Walz, who is an avowed Chinese communist revolutionary fan.
Do you understand that the guy that she picked to run along with her has been to China 30 different times?
He takes students with him to indoctrinate them into the Chinese communist culture.
The students, some of them ratted him out.
Some of them said that, you know, when he goes there, he buys up as many of Mao's Little Red Books.
The Little Red Books that all Chinese were forced to carry during the Cultural Revolution of Mao Zedong.
Um, bought up as many of them as he could find, and then brings them back home and gives them out as gifts.
Communist training!
I mean, this is extraordinary.
And it's obvious.
And you know what's really frustrating about it is?
They think you're too stupid to know any better.
They think you won't believe it.
They can choose a slogan like, we're not going back, which is the slogan of the Communist Party, and the forward together thing.
And that you'll just go, yay!
Isn't that wonderful?
Look at how positive!
We're not looking backwards, we're looking forward.
They think you're too stupid to do your homework, to do the push-ups.
Don't be too stupid and don't be too lazy.
Do the work.
And if you must be, well then let somebody else do the work for you.
That's me.
That's Seb Gorka.
That's patriots all over America who are going to bring you this information.
And that's why George Soros Uh, is buying up hundreds of radio stations to shut people like us down so nobody can hear this truth.
We'll go to the phones.
Line one is Sam calling us from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
I got a lot of fondness for Pittsburgh despite being a Clevelander.
I got family from Pittsburgh, a lot of them.
Uh, Sam, welcome to the show.
You're on the air.
Go ahead.
Hey, um, I heard you say earlier that we have to tone down the rhetoric because there were two assassination attempts on Trump, correct?
Well, actually, I didn't talk about that in this show.
Maybe if you heard me in another location talking about that.
Yeah, I would agree with that statement.
We absolutely must.
Okay, so why are you calling Kamala dangerous and a communist and an existential threat to this country?
Why are you putting words in my mouth?
I never called her an existential threat to the country.
That's what the conservatives say and the Republicans say.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, don't tell me what conservatives say.
You said, I said, you said, why did you call her an existential threat to the country?
I defy you.
This entire show is on tape.
Find me a spot where I called her an existential threat to the country.
I'll wait.
Do you think she's dangerous?
I think communists are absolutely dangerous to the republic because they bring with them authoritarianism and tyranny, the kind that we fought very, very hard to get away from in 1776.
So yes, I think communism is very dangerous and I would caution anybody from ever voting for a communist.
Okay, but you said she is dangerous, correct?
No, I didn't.
I said communism is dangerous for the country.
Communists bring communism and that is dangerous.
I see what you're trying to do.
You're failing miserably.
You're not good at this, Sam.
You're calling a conservative radio show host who's trying and trying to compare what I am saying about Kamala Harris as a communist to the nutjobs on the left that are saying Donald Trump needs to be extinguished.
That's an actual word that was used on MSNBC, that Donald Trump needs to be taken out.
Those words can be taken a lot of different ways.
You're trying to accuse me of using the same thing for Kamala, but two things are blocking you.
Facts, because I never said any of those things, and the second fact is, or the second part is, nobody's taking shots at Kamala Harris!
Nobody is planning assassinations of Kamala Harris.
Nobody in Iran, or Russia, or China, or North Korea, or any of the other geopolitical enemies, foes of the United States, are there plans to try to take out Kamala Harris.
They are cheering her rise from 28% approval rating in January to over 50% approval rating now.
What did she do between January and now to get better?
Did she do anything to earn higher approval ratings?
No, she did not.
You know what she did?
She was announced as Joe Biden's successor, or Joe Biden's replacement.
That's what she did.
That's it.
Suddenly the media brought her to a level where people are saying, yay, Kamala.
Kamala, the leading cheerleaders in yay Kamala are Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Un, and the Ayatollah Khomeini and every mullah in Iran.
That's the reality of the situation.
Nobody wants to take her out.
They want her to absolutely take over.
They're licking their chops at the best attempt they'll ever have at taking down the great Satan that is the United States of America in their eyes.
Can I say something?
Sure, go ahead.
Okay.
Is Kamala the one that has mine companies on her nightstand that quotes Hitler all the time?
Probably not, because she's a communist.
She's not a Nazi, she's a communist.
You're missing the point here.
I just spent an hour telling you about our communist ties.
You're really bad at this, Sam.
You need to practice.
Thanks for the call.
Try it on a local show someplace and see if you can get better at it.
If you're going to try to troll a radio show, don't do a national radio show, and don't do it with people like me.
You're really, really bad at it.
Let's go to the other side of Pennsylvania.
Phil from Philadelphia.
Hi Phil, go ahead.
Hey, Bob, thanks for taking the call.
You know, with everything that Donald Trump has been through over the last year, and not over just last few months, what are your thoughts?
Would you agree with me that on Inauguration Day, he should take the oath of office at the Resolute Desk with X, and Elon Musk being the only ones authorized to broadcast the event?
I like the idea of him getting right to work, no pomp and circumstance.
They're not going to show up for his inauguration anyway, so why the hell not?
Thank you, my friend.
I like the idea, I like the idea about, and thank you for the call brother, I like the
idea of him getting right to work, no pomp and circumstance, they're not going to show
up for his inauguration anyway, so why the hell not?
Thank you my friend, we'll come right back on America First.
America First.
Thank you.
I'm Seb Gawker.
Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
All right.
Thanks, Dr. G. We are live in Cleveland, Ohio.
Find me online, if you would, at Strictly Speaking on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and Truth Social.
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Love to keep up the conversation.
I'm trying to get into the rumble thing, too, with the folks who are online right now with Seb's channel, and I'm just unable to get my own channel to be listed up there.
But thanks to those who are watching and commenting on what we're talking about.
We're going to go back to the phones at 833-333-GORKA to San Diego.
Leo, you're on America First.
Bob Franson for Dr. G. Take it away.
Yeah, Bob, I think Trump should take a page out of Kamala and Biden's book.
And when he sees a microphone, this is after he's re-elected, of course.
When he sees a microphone from one of these MSNBC reporters, CNN and so forth, smile, nod, wave, and keep on walking.
And he can let you guys, you and Sebastian and other people who support him, to just go ahead and speak for him on his policies and so forth, because he doesn't owe them anything.
He doesn't owe them an interview.
He doesn't owe them anything on any of his policies once he becomes president.
They gave them a free pass for four years, He should do the same thing and let them howl as much as they want to.
But he should not stop for microphones anymore for these lunatics.
And I just think he has to wean himself from seeing a microphone and wanting to speak into it after he's reelected, that is.
Leo, I love you, man.
I love the idea.
I do.
And thank you for the phone call.
I've mixed feelings on it only because I know how President Trump thinks.
Not like Dr. G does, because I don't know him personally.
I've only interviewed him once.
Nice half-hour interview on this program in 2021, or on my program.
But from what I observe, and from what I read, it's not how he's wired.
You know, it's funny.
Joe Biden came into office saying he's going to be the most transparent president with the most transparent administration in history, blah blah blah.
Obama said the same thing.
And they all kept things from the press.
And Joe Biden, in fact, has been the worst in terms of transparency.
Trump wants to say, I'll talk to you, because I'll tell you the way it is, and I'm not afraid of how you report it, because you're fake news.
I just don't think he's wired that way.
From my own observational perspective, I just think he wants to have CNN question him, and he wants to say, this is the way it is.
You're wrong.
Here's why.
This is the truth.
And take them all on.
And then, yeah, have conservative media.
What's left of us after Soros buys all the radio stations and tries to boot us all off.
But have the conservative media still have his back, sure.
But I don't think he'll ever run and hide from a microphone.
Not one that's held by MSNBC or CNN or ABC or anything else, because I think he likes... You know what I think he likes as much as anything else?
He likes being right, but more than that, he likes people to know that he was right.
And when he proves that, what better way to do it than to be on the microphone with those people?
Prove them wrong and put it into their faces, and I think he derives great joy from that.
I do, when he does it.
I would be joyful of that if I was doing it.
Not that he's running a campaign of joy.
That's the other one.
That's Kamala.
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All right, thank you, Dr. G. So good to be with the America First audience once again on this Second Amendment Friday.
I almost called it a free-for-all Friday.
That's what I call my morning show on WHK Radio AM 1420, The Answer.
We call it a free-for-all.
We allow everybody to pick their topics, but on Dr. G's show, it is Second Amendment Friday.
Coming up in just a bit, we're going to be chatting with John Arlott, the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, about all things 2A.
But I want to talk about the economy now, talk a little bit about money.
You know, Janet Yellen, the Treasury Secretary, said yesterday, families are doing way better.
Families are overcoming.
Things are getting better for them now.
And I'm trying to figure out whose family.
I haven't seen any family, but literally quoting her, she said, families are getting ahead because inflation is going down.
Well, I'd like to know what the hell you waited until four months before the end of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris's term to make inflation go down, because it's been a disaster for three and a half years.
So we're going to talk about it with Steve Moore.
Economist Steve Moore.
Do we have Steve on the line?
We do!
There he is.
I see him now.
We had a little trouble getting him on before.
Steve Moore, economist, author of a new book, by the way, The Trump Economic Miracle.
Steve, thank you for coming on.
How are you?
Bob, good to be with you.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, that book just came out.
Thanks for mentioning it.
You know who came up with that title, The Trump Economic Miracle?
I would say President Trump.
It's very funny.
The book I wrote about four years ago with my buddy Arthur Laffer called Trumponomics, and we were going to call this book Trumponomics 2.0.
We met with him about four months ago and talked about the book, and he said, I love this idea.
He said, what are you going to call it?
We said Trumponomics 2.0.
He said, I hate that title.
He said, call it the Trump Economic Miracle.
So I thought, OK, that has a good ring to it.
But he wrote the foreword to it.
It's a book that people can read in three or four nights.
It's a great way to just keep up with, you know, the contrast, the sharp contrast between what Trump wants to do for the economy and has done for the economy versus this disastrous policy of Biden, which would be twice as bad, in my opinion, if we had Donald Harris in office.
Yeah, I think that's well said.
And I love that story, by the way.
I love the fact that you let him actually name it.
That is perfect.
And you know what?
Well, let me ask you.
Was the Trump economy, Steve, a miracle?
Or was the Trump economy just following the tried-and-true methods that we have seen work before?
We saw work under President Reagan.
We have had some really wonderful times of prosperity and peace before.
And President Trump followed that model with some twists, including the largest tax cut in history for all Americans.
But was it a miracle or was it just good sound economy?
Maybe a little bit of both, Bob.
It's a great question.
Of course, you know, in my meetings with Trump, and I've met him with him a lot, and I think I met him just a little over eight years ago, I think it was January of 2008, when I had my first meeting with Trump.
And I've been an advisor to his, just for full disclosure, I am an economic advisor to the Trump campaign.
But he gets it.
You know, here's the thing, you know, he was always fascinated with rates.
And that's a person, and he wanted to be like Reagan, and that's a good model, don't you think?
A good role model is Ronald Reagan.
And so he was always asking us, like, what would Reagan do?
And why, you know, in different situations, why did Reagan do this?
Why did Reagan do that?
And he has really followed, for the most part, kind of the free market supply side pro-growth, pro-America agenda that Reagan adopted in 1981
caused the greatest expansion in history.
But my gosh, don't forget about those three years before COVID.
I mean, we had a booming economy.
Remember that, Bob, how strong the economy was?
Well, that's what's so frustrating, Steve, about this.
The way they're trying to paint this, it's like between two competing ideas.
And here's Kamala's ideas, what you can get of them anyway, because most of it is just
a bunch of platitudes and joy and vibes and ambition and dreams and so forth, but no actual
But here's what she might do and here's what Trump might do.
And I'm thinking, we don't have to wonder what Trump might do because Trump has already done it.
We've seen the movie and it was a hit.
I couldn't say it better.
I mean, you're precise.
I've said that many times.
So great minds think alike.
This is not—you know, most of the time you have two candidates, and oftentimes you have one incumbent, and we know what the incumbent has done, and then you have an outsider kind of coming in.
But in this case, we actually have two people who have been in office.
I mean, Kamala's been the vice president, but she's the one who was the czar on the border and all these other issues.
So that's why we wrote the book.
Folks, just look side by side, very objectively.
On 18 of the 20 major statistics, whether it's small business conditions, the stock market, real incomes of middle-class families, mortgage rates, I could go on and on.
18 out of those 20, Trump is superior to Biden and Harris.
I laugh when I see Goldman Sachs say, oh, well, we think that Kamala is better for the stock market economy.
I'm like, what are you people talking about?
What are you drinking?
I mean, tell me this, Bob.
How are you going to grow the American economy and make America a more prosperous place with a $5 trillion tax increase?
It's idiotic!
Yeah, it is.
Every bit of that.
We are talking with Steve Moore here on America First.
I'm Bob Francin for Dr. G on this Second Amendment Friday, but we're talking about the economy right now.
You know, we keep saying the Trump economy versus what the Biden-Harris economy is.
I think we can drop the Biden part from that now.
This is Kamala Harris's economy, and how do we know that?
Because Joe Biden said so.
On Wednesday, Joe Biden said that he delegated, quote, everything, including foreign and domestic policy, to his vice president.
So whatever successes have happened in the last three and a half years, she can claim.
Whatever failures we have seen, which have been just extraordinary, 9.5% inflation in 2022, up over 7% for the better part of the rest of 2022 and into 2023.
And now they're bragging about the fact that it's down to 3%, which is still compared to 1.3% under Donald Trump.
So if she's going to own the last three and a half years, as Joe Biden is saying she should, then we need to hold her accountable for the inflation and the economic woes we suffer right now.
Yeah, look, I mean, this is not a complicated election.
If people vote on, I don't know, abortion or they vote on, you know, Trump's, you know, name-calling and things like that, you know, Kamala Harris may win.
If the kitchen table issues that every poll shows Americans care most about—I mean, the two issues Americans care most about, as you know, Bob, you cover these every day—is the out-of-control border and the lousy economy, and the fact that middle-income families are poorer today than they were when they came into office.
And so you've got to keep it focused on those two things.
Can you imagine what the border's going to look like if Kamala Harris is president?
She was the border czar.
I just saw today, by the way, a statistic.
Several hundred thousand criminals have been let into the country.
I saw it too.
What's the number?
I didn't know the number, but I saw the same story about the hundreds of thousands of criminals with criminal records have been allowed to come into this country and stay.
You're exactly right.
It's something like 10,000 murderers.
I mean, come on, what are we doing?
Are we trying to destroy our country here?
And by the way, I'm very pro-immigration.
I think immigrants are very good for our country, but they've got to come in the right way.
And we've got to know who's coming in.
That's the right of a sovereign country.
So I hope this election is about people's pocketbooks.
Who's going to put America's interests first?
We just did a study at Unleashed Prosperity.
We found all of the top Democratic advisors, both in the Biden and Kamala's
campaign, virtually none of them have any business experience. None!
Well, I picked up that one year of experience.
That's when Kamala allegedly voted for work for McDonald's, but we don't even know if that was true.
Brilliant.
We're talking to economist Steve Moore, who is a part of the Trump economic advisement team.
And, you know, you're also with the Heritage Foundation.
Can you clear something up for us, Steve?
Because it's important.
I know you're a visiting fellow, right, with the Heritage Foundation.
Heritage Foundation was among the groups that, you know, think tanks that put together the Project 2025 that the left continues to try to say is Donald Trump's Project 2025, and they continue to vilify it.
Personally, I haven't read all 900-plus pages, but I have read enough of the analyses of it to think I think it's pretty good, actually.
I wouldn't be running from that at all.
But President Trump is not married to this, and yet they are continuing to try to hang this around his neck as some sort of an albatross.
Can you clarify what Heritage's role was in that, your role in that, especially since you're on the Trump team?
So, you know, I've been involved in this project that Heritage has done now for 40 years, dating back to the Reagan years.
And what this is, every four years, Heritage puts out—it used to be called Mandate for Leadership.
This year it was called Project 2025.
And it was basically a conservative agenda for the incoming administration.
And, you know, Reagan used some of our ideas.
Some of them he discarded.
Same thing with Bush.
The Democrats didn't take a lot of our advice.
But For the Democrats to say this is the Trump agenda is just blatantly false.
It isn't.
Trump had nothing to do with this.
Now, I wrote the chapter on tax reform, how to fix our tax system.
I think it's great.
Let's have a flat tax.
Let's get rid of deductions.
Let's make it really simple.
Let's make it based on consumption.
Let's get rid of the death tax.
That's what we stand for as conservatives.
Democrats are saying this is some kind of a sinister plot.
No, it's how to make America more prosperous.
Well, that's because they love the tax code the way it is.
They love to raise taxes and they love the death tax.
They like to tax as much as they can because, I mean, their agenda is all about that.
So that's why they are trying to paint this as some sort of nefarious thing and then hang it around Donald Trump's neck.
It's completely indefensible.
Steve Moore, thank you for coming on.
Keep up the great work.
We really appreciate what you do.
And the book, again, The Trump Economic Miracle, brand new, just came out by Steve Moore.
Grab that book.
Thank you, Steve, so much for the time.
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Alright, thank you Dr. G and thanks again to Steve Moore.
Great conversation about the economy.
That whole Janet Yellen thing, like I said, just bragging that the economy is getting
better and families are getting ahead when the average American family is down $29,000
thanks to her and Kamala Harris's and Joe Biden's policies.
It's unbelievable.
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Did you see that story?
The latest on the list of lies coming out of Kamala Harris' mouth?
Kamala Harris tried to claim during her interview with, well she said it in the debate that both she and Tim Walz are gun owners.
We know Tim Walz is because he lied about where he used them.
He said he used them at war.
He was never at war.
But she said that she was a gun owner too and then she repeated it on Oprah and actually said something to the effect of, you break into my house, you're getting shot.
You know, she got all, you know, strange axe-heady at that point, but she tried to make it sound like I'm definitely a Second Amendment supporter.
Well, lo and behold, look what has re-emerged.
November 4th, 2005, the San Jose Mercury News reported, quote, Although Mayor Gavin Newsom at the time has not taken a position, several of the city's most liberal leaders are supporting the far-reaching ban, including District Attorney Kamala Harris and four supervisors who are listed as sponsors.
What kind of a ban, you say?
A ban on the possession of handguns.
That's it!
No assault weapons, no weapons of war, none of that ridiculous rhetoric that they threw, just handguns.
Second Amendment protected handguns.
The ban that was supported by Harris was structured so as to require city residents to hand over all handguns within four months.
The New York Post noted that that ban was approved by San Francisco voters on Election Day 2005, but struck down by the state courts before it could take effect.
So how about that?
Kamala Harris.
Miss, I've got a gun.
Tried to.
And by the way, they asked Kareen about that.
Kareen Jean-Pierre, the black and gay press secretary.
Did you know that Kareen Jean-Pierre was black and gay?
I don't care, but she does.
She calls herself historic because she's the first black and gay press secretary.
So let's give a nod to history there.
She's historic.
The press secretary was asked about that yesterday.
And her response was really quite interesting.
She said that she's talking about responsible gun control.
But one of the reporters shot back and said, no, she's talking about no gun control, no gun possession whatsoever, because that's what she supported.
If she has pivoted on that, add that to the list of fracking or no fracking, Medicare for all or no Medicare for all, Green New Deal or no Green New Deal.
I mean, seriously, we just go on up and down the list of things she is lying that she's saying she supports or does not support in order to win the election.
Which, of course, was made clear by Bernie Sanders on TV about three weeks ago when she said, he said, yeah, she's being pragmatic.
She's trying to win an election.
In other words, she's allowed to say whatever she wants, no matter how much of a lie it is, because she's trying to win an election.
I mean, come on, who wouldn't lie to try to become the president, right?
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We're going to Atlanta.
Let's go down to Line 5.
Todd in Atlanta.
You are on America First.
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Hey, Bob.
Great show.
Yeah, Marxism is political Satanism, so everything coming out of their mouth is going to be a lie.
And, you know, you're talking about the economy.
Trump's tax cuts went to everybody who got a paycheck.
Me and everybody in my warehouse and every warehouse on the block remember that Friday when his tax cut came through and we all saw it on our paycheck.
So that's another lie.
But, you know, and also this Project 20, you know, the project they're trying to put on Trump, you know, they're enacting... Project 2025, yeah.
Yeah, they're enacting UN's Project 2030 right in front of us with this migrant invasion of Europe and North America.
They're just projecting everything.
I think it's great you're exposing the Minnesota Marxist Tim Walz.
It blows my mind that Red China owns 40 million acres of land in America.
And that's what we know about.
Could you imagine that happening under Ronald Reagan?
Do you want to see how far to the left we've gone?
So thank you so much.
Well, it's not just the land.
It's the fact.
And you know, here's, I don't, and thank you for the call.
Great, great messaging there, Todd, from Atlanta.
Great call.
Thank you.
I was talking to Jim Simpson the other day, who's got a great book out called Manufactured
You should read it.
I was talking to him about not just the number of acres of land that the Chinese have bought here inside the United States.
I mean, let's just first shake our heads and say, what the hell?
How can we be selling land to a foreign country, and more specifically, to a communist country that is one of our greatest geopolitical foes?
It makes no sense at all.
You add the fact that that massive amount of acreage is being sold to Chinese, and that we have had a 700% increase of Chinese nationals being amongst those crossing Kamala Harris's invisible border.
She's made it invisible.
The borders are.
Why the hell are so many Chinese coming into the United States, the overwhelming majority of them military-aged males?
And why do they have so much land?
Because if you're not at least wondering, I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but if you're not at least wondering what kinds of things thousands and thousands and thousands of Chinese can do on Chinese-owned lands, near American military installations, near American energy hubs, if you're not wondering what they might be able to do, then I probably can't help you.
You're probably listening to the wrong show.
But if you are correctly wondering if there are some training that might be going on in those sites for some kind of a strike within the... I mean, look, what have we always said?
What have we always known?
The United States military is so powerful, nobody would ever be able to take us out from the outside.
If America is to crumble, it's going to crumble from within.
Typically that means American citizens turning on one another and turning on the Constitution, shredding it just a little bit more every day until what America was is torn asunder from within.
Because there's nobody powerful enough to do it from without, right?
Well, what if within also includes not just Americans, but foreign nationals with an agenda and with money and with land and with personnel?
What if from within means, you know, look, Nobody likes to say that we're being invaded.
Nobody likes that because it makes it sound like all of the world's, you know, hungry and poor that are trying to come across that border here, that they all have nefarious intents.
Some of them just don't care.
They just want some help.
They want to make some more money than they can make at their own place.
They want to feed their families.
Blah, blah, blah.
So nobody likes to say we're being invaded, but when you're talking about the scale of Chinese military-aged males coming into this country, they could never come into this country if they were all wearing the same color shirt, because that would be an army.
But they can come in individually, can't they?
They can come in wearing different clothes and not affiliating themselves with the Chinese military, and then gather on the thousands and thousands of acres and do Lord knows what, and we'll be none the wiser.
That's something you better be thinking about.
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He'll be joining us in a few minutes to talk about the Second Amendment assault or the assault on the Second Amendment in this country.
Do not believe one word you hear from Kamala Harris about being a gun owner.
Don't believe one word about Kamala Harris saying she would shoot somebody who came through her door.
Not a chance!
I doubt very seriously, of course she lives her entire life surrounded by security details, which is why she was no problem whatsoever cheering for the defund and abolish the police movement in 2020, so much so that she started encouraging people to donate to the fund to free The bail fund to free some of the criminals in Minneapolis in particular during that time.
She's not worried about criminals coming for her because she's surrounded by armed security all the time anyway.
Don't believe she believes in personal handguns.
She literally sponsored a bill to get rid of them in California in 2005.
She literally called for a mandatory gun buyback as recently as 2019 when she was trying to run for president in the primary cycle.
We know what she believes.
Don't even go there, but we're going to talk about it with John Arlott coming up here in a few.
Phone lines are open to you at 833-33-GORKA.
That's 833-334-6752.
We're going to hit Ray in Livermore.
Ray, thanks for your patience.
You are on America First.
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Thank you for being there, Bob France from Ohio.
I've got two questions, if time allows, but I'm in Harris Country.
I was born in Oakland, lived in the Bay Area almost my whole life.
Thank you for bringing that guest on, because he told me stuff about Harris that even I didn't know, and about California politics, Willie Brown.
I mean, I knew about the Brown connection, but I didn't know it was as deep as what you had exposed today, so thank you for that.
Certainly.
Before you ask your question, I want people to know that's so important.
We've got jokes about Willie Brown because Willie Brown was 60 and she was 29.
He was married, even though he was separated from his wife, he was married at the time officially and she was of course working in Angle to try to get a job and she was willing to do whatever to do that.
But what people don't know is that sexual part of the relationship is not the story.
The story is who he is, who he associated with, the fact that he was one of the largest communists and communist supporters in the Bay Area for 50 years and helped train her and introduced her to the next level of communists to get her to where they wanted her to be.
That's the story people need to know.
And that's why I brought it up.
So I'm glad you caught on.
Make sure that other people know it too.
Go ahead, sir.
Indeed, in the rap lingo, I think they call her a fly girl, is what she is.
And it's not a complimentary term.
So, she keeps talking about this gun that she has.
I want to see Gucci or somebody stand up and say, Harris, tell us what kind of gun do you have?
Is it a Glock?
Is it a .45?
Is it a .38 revolver?
Is it a Colt?
9 mil, 10?
.45 ACP?
How many times did you go to the range?
What's your shot group look like, Harris?
I want to dig down on this, and you're going to find out, just like the McDonald's thing, that she's a complete phony.
Complete and total... Well, here's the thing.
If she had worked at McDonald's, there would have been a W-2 with her name on it.
There would have been a pay stub.
There would have been some way to prove it, and she can't.
If she actually owned a gun, what you just said about how often you go to the range, it would be on video.
You know they're trying to sell her as an actual supporter of the Second Amendment.
So you're right about this, Ray.
She would be on video.
They would be saying, look, here's her gun grouping.
Look at her.
Look at the job she did.
Here she is at the range.
She's never picked up so much as a straw and blown a spitwad at somebody, much less had a firearm.
Indeed.
And second question, here in Ohio, what's up with this goose and cat and dog thing?
Is this for real?
The left is saying that they're just BSing us on this.
It's a long and complicated story.
I will tell you, and thank you for the call, Ray.
I don't have time to tell you that story right now because it's very complicated, but I will tell you this.
In all seriousness, the people in Springfield, Ohio, small-town Ohio, small-town America are suffering because of these massive influxes of Haitian immigrants, particularly in this case, Haitian immigrants.
And yes, they are from a different culture, and they do things very differently than we would do them here.
Does that mean they're eating every dog that they can find?
No.
But there is a story there that I will give you when I get more time to tell you.
It's just that I don't have that time now.
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He is the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, one of the most influential
Second Amendment advocates in the country.
Today he's testified before Congress on numerous occasions, and he testifies with us right
now on America First.
Hey, John, good to have you.
How you doing, sir?
Doing okay.
Glad to talk to you.
Thanks for having me on.
Hey, John, before we dive into some numbers, because I know you've been doing a deep dive
about crime statistics.
You know, Joe Biden has said that crime is down.
Kamala Harris has said crime is down.
You know, David Muir says crime is down.
And yet, the statistics don't tell the whole story.
I know you've been researching that a lot.
We'll dive into those in a moment.
But can you tell me, do you think Kamala Harris is telling the truth when she said she's a gun owner?
No, I mean, I wish somebody would have asked her what gun she owns.
I wish somebody would have asked her, you know, could she tell you the the shooting facilities that she's trained at?
At least then it would be possible to kind of verify some things that were there.
But, you know, my guess is her Holsters or whatever told her that there was probably a good move to try to do that.
But, you know, she doesn't understand the gun control laws.
She doesn't understand what we already have in place.
I was just watching a video earlier where, after the Heller decision, which said that there was an individual right to self-defense, she was attacking it.
And she had put in an amicus brief there Uh, trying to support DC's complete ban on the ownership of handguns.
Obviously, she's been the gun control czar during the Biden administration.
Not only that, John, not only that, John, but you know, this is in her history.
This is what makes this so hilarious for her to try to pass herself off as a gun owner.
She said on Oprah that she would shoot anybody who came into her home.
In 2005, she co-sponsored a bill in California when she was the San Francisco DA to ban handguns.
Under the terms of that bill, every resident would have to hand over all handguns within
four months.
She lost it in the courts, but she backed it every step of the way.
No, I mean, there's a lot of things about gun bans.
She's talked about confiscating guns that people already owned.
You know, it's just a long list of things that she has there.
She's talked about being able to go in to people's homes without a search warrant to go if they own a gun, just to check on how they've stored it.
Yeah.
We can barge into your house and check on that anytime we want, she said.
We have the right to do that.
I mean, it's incredible the fact that the entire Bill of Rights, as far as I'm concerned, she just thinks is a suggestion.
It's like she got it on a Stuckey's Place mat or something.
Look, Biden has been the most anti-self-defense president that we've had ever.
He's put thousands of gun dealerships out of business over trivial, tiny paperwork mistakes.
He's set up a national gun registry.
He's revived Obama's Operation Chokepoint, which allows the federal government to put pressure on financial institutions not to go and do business with companies that they don't approve of, and has raised their costs and put even more out of business through that.
You know, and if anything, I mean, Kamala Harris has overseen many of these operations, but if anything, she would push it even further.
She was to the left of Biden during the 2020 presidential primaries.
You're exactly right.
She would say, hold my butt light if she was ever taking over as president.
She would say, you think you had gun control?
You think you were tough on the Second Amendment?
Joe Biden, watch me.
John, let's pivot to some of the numbers now.
You've got another report out right now from a couple of days ago, the Crime Prevention Research Center website, crimeresearch.org.
New 2023 FBI reported crime data is out.
FBI data adjusted for previous years.
What did you find?
What did they find, John Lott?
Right.
Well, for the last year or so, we've been seeing headline after headline saying crime is down, people erroneously believe that it's been increasing.
Well, that was the data for 2022 that they've been talking about.
The 2023 data just came out on Monday.
And, you know, just like the Biden administration went out and said, you know, we miscounted the number of people who were employed by 818,000.
Now they've gone back and redone their data on reported violent crime rather than a 2% drop that they claim, and what the media parroted over and over again, that supposedly occurred in 2022.
They're now saying that reported violent crime in 2022 increased by 4.5%.
So rather than a drop, it increased.
But the thing is, again, that's just looking at reported crime, but there are other measures of reported crime.
The National Crime Victimization Data also has a measure of reported crime, which I think is more accurate.
And it showed a 29% increase in reported violent crime in 2022.
And, you know, it's just a staggering numbers there.
But if you look at total crime rather than just reported crime, what you find is that during the Biden administration, total Serious violent crime, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault increased by 55%.
Wow.
That's the largest increase over three years that we've ever seen.
The next largest increase was in 2006, and that was only 27%.
So this is slightly more than double the largest previous increase that we've seen over a three-year period.
John Arlott is our guest.
He is the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center.
Yeah, I mean, reported crime and actual crimes are different things.
You know, you and I have talked about this and you report on it all the time.
You know, there is a reporting of crime, there is arrest for crime, there's prosecution of crime.
Many of those things have gone down because of decisions made by prosecutors and police officers' unwillingness to go out and be proactive.
But the number of crimes that are taking place is a different story.
John, can you hang for a second segment?
Sure, I'd be happy to.
Good.
I want to finish that topic, then we want to talk about the tens of thousands of illegal immigrants you were just referencing with sexual assault and murder convictions roaming the streets of this country right now according to new ICE data.
So we'll pick that up with John Arlott as we continue here on America First.
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Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
All right, Dr. G, it is Second Amendment Friday on America First.
Bob France live in Cleveland, Ohio, along with John Arlott.
He is the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center.
Check his website out, crimeresearch.org.
Hey, John, here's the headline for you.
Tens of thousands of illegal immigrants with sexual assault and murder convictions are roaming U.S.
streets.
We are told by the left that, no, the criminal aliens are not the criminals.
But the illegal aliens that are here, now they're peaceful.
They're not as dangerous as the American citizens are themselves.
This would seem to say something different.
What say you?
It's stunning.
This is information that just was released by ICE today.
We have 13,000 of these illegal immigrants that are roaming the United States who have been convicted of murder.
Almost 16,000 who have been convicted of sexual assault.
All told, we have 425,000 illegal aliens who are in the country who have been convicted of crimes.
Another 222,000 are facing criminal charges.
So, I mean, you're talking about, you're talking about about 650,000 that have either been convicted or are facing charges for serious crimes.
All of whom are still free.
According to the report, these are people not in detention.
So the 425 and the 222 you're talking about here, these people are literally on the streets right now.
Right.
You know, I know the Democrats want to claim crimes down in part because they want to say, look, illegal aliens aren't committing crime.
We have all these millions coming in and crimes down.
But as we were just talking about, crime has been up dramatically.
If you look at total crime during the Biden administration, total serious violent crime, rape, robbery and aggravated assault is up 55 percent.
And, you know, is it surprising when you have literally hundreds of thousands Of criminal illegal aliens that are roaming the streets in this country?
Yeah, it's a staggering thing to think about.
And again, we are told all of the time that, you know, this is a right-wing talking point, it's a trope, that illegal aliens mean, well, since they broke into the country, there must be, you know, criminals as well, and violent criminals.
And they try to tell us it's not.
These numbers are just very sobering.
The fact that these are people not even in detention, and these are the ones that have just been caught, you know, and are being charged or have been convicted.
So Lord knows how many more there are that are still on the loose, not being charged.
There are two other categories.
There are ones who are so-called gotaways, people that we see come across but we don't catch.
And then there's a third group, which God only knows how many millions are in that, which we don't even see because 90% of the border agents have been pulled off guarding the border and instead are handling paperwork to get people into the country.
So we have no idea how many more, because it's probably the most serious ones who came in without being caught.
John, we've got to wrap here, but I want to close with a message I just received from a fan of yours.
He happens to be a member of the United States Commission on Civil Rights.
Peter Kersenow says, John Lott is right about everything related to illegal immigrants and crime.
That's a pretty good feather in the cap to get a compliment from that guy.
John R. Lott, thank you.
I'm Bob France in for Dr. G on Second Amendment Friday.
We'll be right back.
Thanks for joining us.
We'll be right back.
Thanks for joining us.
All right, thank you, Dr. G. We move into hour number three, and now live here from Cleveland, Ohio, where it's five minutes after the hour of five o'clock.
But five minutes after whatever it is where you are, we appreciate you being with us.
Last hour of America First on Second Amendment Friday.
Great stuff from John R. Lott, Jr.
talking about the criminal, illegal aliens.
Six hundred and sixty-plus thousand.
Violent criminal aliens are roaming the streets.
According to ICE numbers, we're talking about some extremely dangerous people who have been released into this country.
Among those not in detention, illegal aliens who have either been charged with or convicted of sex offenses and homicides.
625,431 convicted, 222,141 pending charges.
That's a total of 662,566 non-citizens.
This is as of July 21st.
Non-citizens with criminal histories are on ICE's national docket who are free in this country.
pending charges. That's a total of six hundred and...
Where's that math so I don't have to do it myself?
Six hundred and sixty-two thousand five hundred and sixty-six non-citizens.
This is as of July 21st. Non-citizens with criminal histories
are on ICE's national docket who are free in this country.
That's a staggering statistic.
And you know, I wonder why...
And we're going to talk to Sheriff Mark Lamb from Pinal County, Arizona here at the bottom of this hour.
I wonder why a different sheriff took the approach that he did to complain about the danger of illegal aliens in this country.
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So here in Ohio, where I'm from, Northeast Ohio in particular, Portage County, is a relatively conservative county and it's got a sheriff by the name of Bruce Zukowski and I don't know if Seb has talked about this with you in the last few days or not or Mark yesterday or whoever but Sheriff Bruce Zukowski is in some hot water and you want to know why?
Because he told the truth in an unvarnished way that made some feelings get hurt and people And I have to admit, when I first heard it, I did a little bit of a cringe, and a little bit kind of just that, eh, probably want to pull back at least one of those words in this post.
But he didn't, and it's probably what got him in the most trouble.
I want to read it to you.
And this is somewhat in relation to what's going on in Springfield, Ohio.
We had a caller here ask me last hour about eating dogs and cats and everything else, which is absolutely burying the lead of what's really going on down there in Springfield, Ohio.
It's down near Dayton.
But the Haitian migration of some 15 to 20,000 people being protected under TPS statute, Temporary Protected Services, these individuals are allowed to essentially run roughshod over this poor small town in Ohio.
And it's led to some really, really dangerous situations.
But in response to that and just the overall 10, 11, 12 million illegal aliens that have been allowed into this country under Border Czar Kamala Harris's watch, Um, Sheriff Bruce Zukowski of Portage County, Ohio wrote the following on Facebook.
Quote, when people ask me what's going, well what's gonna, he said gonna, I'm going to read it exactly as it's written.
When people ask me what's gonna happen when the flip-flopping laughing hyena wins, I say, write down all the addresses of the people who had her signs in their yards, so when the illegal human locusts, which she supports, need places to live, we'll already have the addresses of their new families who supported their arrival.
Which I'm sorry, I'm going to stifle a little bit of a laugh here, but I can tell you I'm smiling, because I support the message!
Maybe not the language!
Maybe the locus, and I get it, locus, you know, it's...
What locusts do is they move from place to place, absorbing every resource they can get their hands on or their little locust libs on and mouths on until it's gone and then they move to another place.
Illegal aliens are absorbing a lot of resources, educational resources, health resources, living spaces, jobs, and so on and so forth, everywhere they go.
I get the reference, but it's not nice.
It's just not nice, and it probably rubbed people a lot more the wrong way than the message itself.
But they used it, did the left, to threaten to sue him.
The ACLU said his post violated the First Amendment because it's going to scare people into not putting their Harris signs in their front yards.
And so he took it down.
He took down the post.
But in doing so, he reminded everybody that the reality is that if they vote for this person, and if this person wins the presidency, and this person brings in millions more illegal aliens, and they show up besieging your town the way they have Springfield, Ohio, and taking up all of the apartments in the cities where you are because of sanctuary city status, you know what I'm talking about.
Not just the apartments, but the hotel rooms that are being given to them free of charge If this starts happening to small town Ohio, small town America, wherever you are, the way it is in Springfield, Ohio, you're going to have only yourself to blame.
And if you voted for her in order to let this happen, guess what?
You should probably bear some of the responsibility.
Open your door to these people.
You got a spare bedroom?
Fill it with an alien.
You got a basement space?
Fill it with an alien.
I mean, in all seriousness.
And I know right now some people listening to the sound of my voice are probably bristling at the fact that I'm using the word alien.
What do you want me to use?
What exactly would you like me to use other than the word that continues to exist in American law?
And an alien is somebody who is foreign to this land.
It doesn't mean spaceships.
It means straight up foreign to this land.
And if they are illegal aliens, that means they are here on our land without permission.
So I'm not going to change my vernacular.
I'm not going to call them undocumented immigrants, undocumented.
You notice how they've gradually gone from illegal alien to illegal immigrant because alien was so is so offensive.
Then we had to drop the illegal because that was offensive to so it became undocumented.
So illegal alien became illegal immigrant to undocumented immigrant.
And the immigrant is still just a little bit severe.
So they're migrants, they're just migrating from one place to another.
So there was undocumented migrants.
And then it was well migrant he still kind of makes them sound like they're just you know, vagabonds.
So we're just going to call them workers.
They're migrant workers.
That's how we that's how far we've gone.
And now they're not even migrant workers.
Now they're guest workers, and now they're just new arrivals.
Have you followed the train, the language that they have shifted to try to make illegal
immigration look like a victimless crime, when the reality is it is very much a victimization
It causes victimization in so many different ways.
And look at what happened in New York City.
Look at what has happened in Chicago.
Look at what has happened in Denver, where they're literally forcing hotels to open their doors to illegal aliens and their families, and putting them up for free in luxury hotels.
Feeding them food that homeless veterans can't get, but that they get.
I saw an interview with somebody in Springfield just this, was it this morning?
Was it last night?
Whatever, it's running together.
But I saw an interview with a store owner who was almost in tears as she was saying the people were coming in, in Springfield, the illegal, well, they're illegal aliens because they are not supposed to be here, but they've been given temporary protected status, kind of like asylee status.
But the Haitians who are here in Springfield that have been brought by Harrison Biden, they're going through these store lines and they're buying all kinds of food and they're presenting their EBT card.
They've been given EBT cards, which is basically like, you know, the welfare card.
And when you swipe it as a store owner or as a clerk or whatever, when you swipe the card, you can see to make sure that the card will cover the bill.
And you can also see how much is left on the card, so it's kind of like a gift card.
You swipe a $100 gift card, when you make a $30 purchase, it'll show $70 left.
She said she is swiping cards for Haitian immigrants in Springfield that are showing $29,000 remaining.
$13,000 remaining.
These are just the two examples she gave.
We are giving them more money and resources than homeless Americans, particularly veterans, have ever seen in their lives.
So if you're wondering why people like Sheriff Zukowski are just a little bit put off by the quote-unquote human locusts, there's a good reason why.
And this is going to come to your town next.
It cannot help but.
If we don't return them to their home, we are inviting more people to come under whatever circumstances they can and to escape their homes.
And it's just going to continue to get worse and worse and worse and worse.
Now Kamala says she's going to go down to the border to have a look-see.
I mean, is somebody going to show where it is?
Does she even know that the direction south exists?
Has she ever seen a compass?
Does she think there's just three?
There's just north, west, and east and that's it?
Because I don't think she's ever gone south in her life.
She doesn't know where the border is, but now suddenly she wants to go down and pretend like she is taking border security seriously?
We'll see what Sheriff Mark Lamb thinks about that.
He'll be coming up at the bottom of this hour.
Stay here.
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Bob Franz sitting in for Dr. G. We'll take your calls next.
I'm Seb Goker.
Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
Yeah, that's a good idea, Dr. G. We're talking about...
The border czar's absolute, complete failure to do anything even remotely resembling protecting the border.
I still remember the language that Joe Biden used when he proclaimed her to be the border czar, that she will be responsible for getting under control the flow of humans coming across that border.
It wasn't just about, oh, root causes.
Find out why we know what the root causes are.
President Trump told us a long time ago, blank hole countries.
Isn't that what he said?
Blank hole countries!
People want to get out of blank hole countries and come to a better country!
For some of them, for some of the other people around the world who are coming here, it's because they have nefarious intent.
They're coming here for very, very, uh, well I guess I'll stick with nefarious reasons.
For their own personal gain or for advancing that of a foreign power that is trying to harm the United States of America.
So Kamala says she's going down to the border to do something.
Now let's play a cut here.
Cut number four.
Byron Donalds, a congressman from Florida, is telling the truth.
Why is Kamala finally going to go to the border after three and a half years of completely ignoring it?
Because she has to.
Here's cut four.
Well, she's going down to the border because what's happened is polling for her candidacy is not going well.
So they're trying to do everything they can to try to shore up voters who are not leaning their way.
They're starting to trend more and more towards Donald Trump.
But it's not going to work because if you cared about border security, you would have done this at some point over the three and a half, last three and a half years that she was vice president of the United States.
Members of the House Republican Conference, we've been to the border multiple times.
We've spent days at the border going through these issues.
She's in the executive branch and she was nowhere to be seen.
That's exactly how she intended it.
She did exactly what her job was.
Her job was border czar, and that means to erase the border and be the czar of making that happen.
So what does it look like when Kamala goes down to the border?
What might it look like?
Let's try to imagine this.
In a world of Kamala Harris in charge of the border with Joe Biden's permission, what does it look like when she goes down to the border to talk to the would-be border crossers?
I think I have an idea, and let's see if you enjoy this.
We have to understand that there's a reason people are arriving at our border.
and ask what is that reason?
the little sachet to the other side of the border she saw men from all over the world
just wait for her order so they started walking her way
She said, this is no good place to stay.
And they knew, yes they knew, they could come to the U.S.
of A. Come on, let's take a closer ride into my land.
Just come right along.
Come on, let's take a moment.
I'll make the rules, and you just can't go wrong.
I've been working on this issue for a very long time.
They began to advance as the borders I was inviting.
Pass a bill to create a pathway to citizenship.
We've got plenty of room and got cash for you too.
It's in writing.
They need opportunity.
They need assistance.
They need support.
They heard the cartel leaders say, Vamanos, I think Trump's on his way.
And they knew, if they knew, they should run.
But she said, please stay.
Kamala said, come closer, right into our land.
Just come right along.
Kamala said, come over, he can't stop you.
The borders are, it's not wrong.
Do you have any plans to visit the border?
We are going to the border.
We've been to the border.
So this whole, this whole, this whole thing about the border, we've been to the border.
We've been to the border.
You haven't been to the border.
And I haven't been to Europe.
Then they quieted down when they saw a strong man at the border.
Why hasn't she secured the border?
Then they heard Trump say, starting next year, we'll all be deported.
Afuera!
So they looked at the borders our space And said, you know you can't win this race
And as they drove away they could hear the borders are gay Yeah, yeah
They were coming up closer right into our land What the hell have you done?
They were coming right over, now they're all gone My new voters are gone
Unburdened by what has been That's the laugh of a crazy person, I will tell you.
She's crazy.
That's the laugh of a crazy person, I will tell you.
If you haven't told her.
She's crazy.
She's crazy.
I gotta tell you, we like parodies where I come from.
We have been writing, I have been writing parody songs.
That one of course is Jay and the Americans.
Come a little bit closer.
We modified it a little bit.
And I gotta give props to Johnny Hiles, who's one of my producers here in Cleveland.
I've got a vocalist and I've got a producer who can put songs together like nobody's business.
So we're gonna put an album out, I think, one of these days.
In all seriousness, we've got some really, really good parody songs.
But that's Kamala said, come a little closer.
And you know what?
I think that's exactly what the plan was.
The end of it?
They're furious if Trump wins, all of these would-be voters are going to be gone.
The whole goal here is to, of course, bring in 10, 11, 15, 20 million people, declare mass amnesty, declare mass citizenship, and give them all ballots.
Or even if you don't declare it, give them ballots anyway, because too many of the states are not up on their voter rolls, and make sure that these individuals can vote Democrats into power forever, forever, forever.
That's what it's all about.
All right, let's go back to the phones.
We'll go to Arizona, since we're going to be talking to Sheriff Lamb here in a few.
Dave in Arizona, you're on America First.
Dave, go right ahead.
I appreciate the opportunity, Mr. Prentz.
Yeah, it's perfect that Sheriff Lamb is going to be on soon.
Met with him probably a dozen times since 2020.
A question for you, but a question for him as well.
What can we, the people, do?
Because we know that the federal government is but a backstop.
The states are sovereign, but when they fail, are we the people not duty-bound?
I can't get anybody to cover my six.
I've been to a couple of Yuma rallies, and unfortunately, we were five miles away from where we needed to be, much like Chameleon Kamala will be today.
She won't be within five miles of that border in Douglas.
But are we not duty-bound to forcibly contain people and not allow them to enter our sovereign nation?
And I'm just concerned.
I've talked to Sheriff Lamb a couple times about that, to deputize us here in Arizona, and we'll just post a border posse down there and prevent people from coming in.
Let the federal government take the state of Arizona to court.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you for the call.
I appreciate it.
You know, I wish the answer was as simple as the question, so I could just say yes, of course, and I really do, but I would never give that advice.
I would never give that advice because the last thing I think we ever want to see is American citizens trying to protect themselves and their land and getting into a firefight.
I mean, you've got to remember, a lot of these migrants who are coming over are military-aged
and maybe even military-armed.
We don't know.
We don't know how dangerous they are.
We know they smuggle in human beings.
We know they smuggle in drugs.
We know they smuggle in fentanyl.
If they're smuggling guns, do you want to get into a situation like that?
I would never advise that.
I would never live with myself, be able to live with myself.
I bet Sheriff Lamb would say the same thing if we told American citizens, yeah, do what
you want to do to protect your land.
It's a dangerous, dangerous game we'd be playing there.
But I wish there was something we the people could do to protect ourselves if the government
won't do that.
Love it.
Great job by Johnny, my guy, writing my parodies, er, singing my parodies for me.
We'll check in with Sheriff Lam here in just a few, right here on America First.
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No, it's not a partisan issue.
However, that poll should be probably 80-20 if people were being honest.
Because the reality is, over the last three and a half years, this administration, and really predominantly under Kamala Harris as the borders are, has been a complete and utter disaster.
We've seen countless number of people come in.
We're seeing crime across this country.
We're seeing fentanyl deaths.
Just ravishing this country.
I mean, the list goes on and on, Lawrence, of the problems that come along with this.
And Kamala Harris has been one of the architects of this.
So that pole should be much higher.
She is the architect.
She's the border czar.
She accepted that job.
And for three and a half years, she has neglected that job.
That was the voice of Sheriff Mark Lam, Pinal County, Arizona, who joins us now on America First.
I'm Bob Frantz sitting in for Dr. G. Sheriff, good to have you.
How are you doing?
I'm doing great.
Thanks for having me on.
You describe her as the disaster.
She's been a disaster at her job, you know, and they're trying to cover for her by saying, well, she wasn't exactly supposed to, you know, like, you know, strategize the security of the border.
She was trying to look at the root cause of why people wanted to come here.
That's not what Biden said when he appointed her to that job, did he?
No.
He asked her to go down and figure out the border situation.
But he knew that she was not competent enough to do it, which I think they probably sent her on an errand they knew she would never complete.
And she didn't.
The reality is, she has failed the American people.
And look, when you're there with Joe Biden, Joe Biden decided he wasn't going to run.
And he threw her out there.
Guess who gets to take the fall for it now?
Kamala Harris.
And she has been absolutely one of the architects of this disaster.
Yeah, there's no question about it.
I was just talking in the last segment before you came on about, you know, what the goal was here.
I mean, it's astounding.
I think they'll admit to around eight million illegal border crossers in the last three and a half years.
That does not count the two million or so gotaways, the known gotaways.
And then there's the unknown gotaways who are the real dangerous ones because they're not turning themselves into border patrol because they've got something to hide, whatever that might be.
So we're looking at probably 10, 11 million people, 11 million illegal immigrants into this country
in the last three and a half years with the goal of doing what?
If it isn't to make them all citizens and make them vote for Democrats from now until eternity,
I don't know what in the hell the goal is of bringing that many people here.
Yeah, and look, I think the number's closer to about 15 million people,
because they're not telling you the numbers from the CBP One app that they're using,
which they're not claiming as apprehensions.
They're not telling you the real numbers of the people that they fly in here from some of these other countries.
So there's a lot of other It's to reinvent America.
Joe Biden told us when he was running for office the last three and a half, four years ago, he said, we're going to reinvent America.
Same with Obama.
They said they wanted to fundamentally transform America.
And what better way to do that than to undermine the rule of law, open the border, allow criminals to come in, which I know we're going to talk about this, but there's been some staggering numbers released today, and this is part of a plan.
Whether it's globalism, whatever the ultimate goal is, this administration is marching to that beat.
Sheriff, let's talk about some of those numbers.
If you just turned on the radio, Sheriff Mark Lamb from Pinal County, Arizona is our guest.
I'm Bob Francin for Dr. G on this Second Amendment Friday.
We're talking about some staggering numbers here.
According to the reports, Sheriff, some 440,000 plus illegal immigrants who have been convicted of crimes ranging from from sex crimes to homicides, including armed robberies and
other things as well, and some 220,000 whose charges are pending.
These people are all loose.
These are people who are on the streets in small and big-town America all over this country.
This is according to ICE.
Yes, it is.
And look, every month they've stopped, not every month, every year it's about 20 to 40,000 people who have been convicted of crimes or wanted for crimes here in America who have active warrants who are now trying to come back in the country.
A few months ago, Border Patrol They released something where they, in Arizona, in the Tucson sector, they had seven people they caught in one day that were sex offenders.
Some of them ranging from, you know, sexual abuse to sexual abuse of a minor.
Very, very heinous crimes that these guys are guilty of, or at least being alleged of having committed.
Trying to get back into this country.
And now we're finding out there's all these other criminals that are being arrested.
And whether it's sanctuary cities not holding people accountable, not notifying ICE, or in my case, I do work with ICE.
But because of the policies of this administration, they are handcuffing the good men and women of ICE.
And instead of coming and picking these people up for me, which we have an agreement for that, they're now not picking them up.
And they're only a half a mile to a mile down the road from me.
So if they're not picking them up from me, why are they going to pick them up from somebody else?
Now, I will say it's not all ICE's fault.
There are some law enforcement guys out there that are also not.
All right, Sheriff, your phone is breaking up there just a little bit.
That's okay, though.
We got a quick timeout here.
I want to come back with you with Sheriff Mark Lamb from Pinal County, Arizona.
If it's happening in Arizona, it's happening in your state, too, because, yes, we are all border states now, thanks to this Border's Ours policy.
We'll be right back.
Thanks for watching.
See you next time.
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I'm Seb Gorka.
Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
Oh, I'm picturing Chubbs.
I'm picturing Chubbs in heaven when I hear this.
Lord, that's not good.
That's not good at all.
Welcome.
We continue now.
It's 43 minutes past the hour.
Bob France live in Cleveland.
WHK Radio AM 1420.
The answer is the home base there.
We're joined by Sheriff Mark Lamb of Pinal County, Arizona, talking about some of the crazy numbers we found out from ICE today of sheriff.
Not just, you know, I mean, violent crime is violent crime, a sex crime and assault, you know, an armed robbery.
These are all violent crimes, but murder is murder.
13,099, we have been told, amongst that crowd of 600 plus thousand violent criminals who are illegal aliens who are on the streets of this country right now.
Not in jail, not in prison, not in detention, on the streets.
At least 13,099 murderers, Sheriff.
And we're told that we're bigots if we say that the criminal illegal alien population, or the illegal alien population, is more criminal than the American population.
Well look, when you lose an argument, which there's no way for them to argue these numbers or the open border or all the bad stuff that comes along with it, but when you lose an argument, what do you do?
You result in insults.
And that's why they result to the racism, all this other stuff.
And the reality is, I don't ever see any of them down here on the border with us trying to save these people or trying to help the people who are losing loved ones to fentanyl.
I don't ever see them down here.
So I don't think it's us that's the racist.
The reality is this isn't about racism.
This is about protecting America.
This is about skin color.
This is about protecting families, protecting us from criminals.
We now know for a fact there's 13,000 murderers that they've released into this country that they didn't send back.
That's ludicrous, Bob.
Yeah, and it puts everybody in danger.
I mean, you know, you're a border sheriff.
I'm in Ohio.
I'm secluded from all of this stuff.
But you know what?
It's been a catchphrase for a while now that every state is a border state, but it really is because they're flying these people in, or they're crossing the border illegally, coming into Pinal County, coming into Texas, coming into, you know, California, Mexico, or whatever.
And then they're just being given bus passes and told to go wherever you want.
Catch and release.
Go and bring Whatever it is that you're here to do, to whatever state that you want.
And so, in Springfield, Ohio, as you well know, you know, these are people who are here on this Haitian TPS, Temporary Protected Status type of program, where 20,000 people are making life miserable for, you know, the people of that small town.
We are all in the same boat.
It almost seems like we really are all on the border now.
Yeah.
And look, in Ohio, with, you know, Sheriff Zukoski, he talked about Where do we put these people?
You know, and that's really what it was.
It was frustration of where do we put these people?
And there's a lot of people that support Kamala for president, but they're not willing to take these people in into their own home.
And I think that's how you really have to look at these policies.
How would they affect you if you were to take these folks into your own home, the murderers that they're letting out?
The rapists that might be able to come in here.
Look, if I have to stop nine good people to stop one bad person, that's my responsibility as a sheriff.
That's what I'm expected to do.
But if we continue to let people in here, we don't have anywhere else to put them.
We're going to have to start putting them in people's homes.
What?
I mean, I don't, I do not endorse that in any way, shape or form.
But clearly these folks that are supporting Kamala and these terrible plans, they haven't thought through the fact that where are these folks going to go?
And I think Sheriff Zukoski is merely saying, well, why don't we bring him to your house?
You're exactly right, and by the way, for those who don't know, if you just turned it on, Sheriff Zukoski is sheriff in Portage County, Ohio, right in my neck of the woods, who said, what's gonna stop, or I'm sorry, what's gonna happen if the flip-flopping, laughing hyena wins, I say write down all the addresses of the people who had her signs in their yards, that way, when the migrants need a place to live, we'll already have the addresses of their new families who supported their arrival.
And he got in trouble for that, especially because he used the word locust, and it was kind of, you know, a little bit offensive, but the message is true, and Sheriff, It's not out of the realm of possibility.
In fact, some of the real radicals have already said, you know, if you live in a big house, if you're wealthy and you've got a lot of rooms that aren't being used right now, we'll pay you.
They should start some sort of a program where we'll pay you with taxpayer dollars to take some of these migrant families in.
So it's not like Sheriff Zukoski was making this stuff up out of whole cloth.
Why don't these self-righteous, elitist, leftists lead the way and show us how it's done?
Why don't they take some of these folks in that we can't even, we don't even have time to vet them.
Border Patrol doesn't have time to vet them because they've let so many people come in.
And then they take like a Springfield, Ohio, where they threw in, you know, 20,000 people into a town with 60,000 people.
Those are astronomical numbers that have, you don't even have the housing to support that.
So what Sheriff really the point is, he was trying to make is saying at some point we're gonna have to figure out where do we put people.
Here's the simple solution to it though, Bob.
Don't let them come in in the first place if they come in illegally.
If they don't go through the legal process that Congress, whether you agree with it or not, has established, then we shouldn't let them in.
Because we don't know who they are, we don't know if they're criminals, and we can't afford to continue to permeate our society with people with criminal intentions.
What we've seen in the last six to twelve months, you know, New York for example, complaining, uh, we're full.
We have filled up our luxury hotels, our luxury hotels that you or I could never afford to stay in.
They're giving them to these families for free, and then of course feeding them as well, and then they're getting complaints that they don't like the kind of food, it's not their culture, blah, blah, blah.
So then they're just giving them checks or, you know, EBT cards or whatever, so they can go buy whatever food they want to.
And then, was it Denver?
I think it was Denver who said, basically, we're full.
Our hotels are full.
Our shelters are full.
We got nowhere else for these people to go.
You gotta send them somewhere else.
These are places that said, we're sanctuary cities, and now they're angry that they have to provide sanctuary.
You know, it's not free.
That's the other thing that people don't understand.
It might be free to those, those people that came into this country illegally, but it's not free to us, the taxpayers.
Every hotel room, every meal, every gift card, every flight, Every single crime that is occurring against Americans committed by illegals has a financial impact and burden on the American people.
This is why government is now wanting more taxes.
First of all, there's way too much government, way too much, but that's a conversation for another day.
But also, the problems that they have created through these horrific open border policies That Kamala Harris is responsible for.
It's having a huge burden on Americans criminally, financially, emotionally.
It's not good.
I love when law enforcement officers are willing to tell the truth.
Unvarnished.
I don't care what it means.
I don't care who it hurts.
Tell the truth.
This is what's going on.
Sheriff Lamb, you were one of those down there in Pinal County.
Thank you for speaking truth.
Thank you for shining a spotlight on this huge problem.
It affects all of us.
God bless you, sir.
Thank you.
God bless you too.
Alright, that's Sheriff Lamb from Pinal County.
We've got one more segment to go.
I'm Bob Branson for Dr. G. If you're still on hold, stay there.
We'll take your call before we're done.
I promise you.
See you right here on America First.
I'm going to be talking about the importance of the art of communication.
I'm going to be talking about the importance of communication.
Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
Yes, indeed.
Thank you, Dr. G. We're going to wrap it up with phone calls here on America First.
And boy, Pennsylvania might be the ultimate swing state of swing states, so I want to get these Pennsylvania voters on the line here.
Mary in Pennsylvania, on line five.
Welcome to America First, Mary.
Mary, what part of PA are you in?
Seville.
All right.
Well, welcome to the show.
What's on your mind?
Um, when I heard all the things about Camilla and Trump should itemize each one of those things, her relationship with foreign countries and her relationship with, um, well, I'm, I'm, I'm too excited here.
But the other thing is words are very, very important and the other side uses words and what we need to call him and introduce him as America's Blue collar worker who made New York the greatest city in the world will make America the greatest city in the world.
OK.
I love it.
I love the messaging.
Yeah, and he does appeal to the blue-collar workers.
And thank you for the call, Mary, in Pennsylvania.
Look at what happened just a... What did Kamala do a few days ago?
Rallied with some of the wealthiest celebrities in the world, and Donald Trump's out there in blue-collar, middle-class America, giving a $100 bill to a struggling mom trying to feed her family in a grocery store.
He's got a $189 bill that she couldn't pay.
And he's like, here, that'll help a little bit.
Yeah, he is America's blue-collar leader.
Thank you.
Danny, also in Pennsylvania.
Danny, what part of the Keystone State?
I'm in Langhorne, Pennsylvania, Bucks County, folks.
Listen, how could the incumbent vice president let in millions of invaders into this country and still be in this race?
I can tell everybody it's the 1965 Immigration Act is kicking in, along with 60 years of illegal immigration.
We're going to win on November 5th.
But everybody, that week is a birthday.
And when everybody votes, I want everybody to wish a happy birthday to Patrick Buchanan.
Great show, Bob.
Thank you.
I appreciate the phone call.
Good messaging, too.
We need you guys in Pennsylvania to carry the load.
We really do.
And I don't know if it's you or if it's North Carolina or if it's Arizona or Georgia, which is the key.
We need all of those.
We can't mess around and allow them to steal it again.
We need every single one.
Everybody in a state like Pennsylvania.
God bless you all.
Take nine more voters with you and make every vote you cast ten votes.
And I'm not kidding about that.
Make sure they're registered, make sure they're legal, because we're not Democrats.
But make sure you take people with you and tell them that literally.
I think Jack Posobiec said it best on Twitter a couple of days ago.
On November 5th we will decide whether we are going to be able to afford groceries again or whether we're in World War III.
We're literally, it's that much of a binary choice.
We will either improve our own lives and be able to enjoy ourselves again, or we're going to be in the middle of a war.
World War III, because that's exactly what the difference between Trump and Kamala is.