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Mark Davis LIVE: Election home stretch provides America with stark choice

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	I'm Sebastian Gorka and this is America First with our very special guest host, the voice of Dallas, Mark Davis.
	Peace.
	Thank you, Dr. G, and welcome everybody on this Thursday, the 26th day of September 2024.
	40 days, 40 days and 40 nights to save America.
	Very Genesis biblical flood imagery there.
	40 days, Forty nights, and there will be a flood of developments, to be sure, between now and November 5th.
	Obviously, the ridiculousness of early voting is underway in a couple of states, and it'll soon unfold everywhere else.
	Two things are true at the same time.
	Number one, all this early voting is ridiculous.
	And number two, do it.
	Yeah, and let me square those coming right off the bat.
	And in fact, we're just so glad to have everybody here.
	Thank you, Dr. G. I'm here today and Monday for what we might call vice presidential debate pregame, because that'll be the following day, Tuesday, October 1st.
	Can't wait to see J.D.
	Vance and Tim Walz.
	Boy, on paper, that's that's Just almost not fair.
	But debates don't happen on paper.
	They happen in real time, in real life.
	We might get to a little bit of that later on today.
	But as we gather together at this 40-day point, there is voting that's underway.
	The best kind of informed democracy, small d, because we are a constitutional republic, is for everybody to be operating off the same informational window.
	We used to have election day.
	It was one day.
	It would be November 5th.
	Everybody voted, and we tended to have the results before we went to bed.
	If it was really close, maybe it was the wee hours.
	But this following morning, following day lunchtime, that was all nonsense.
	What do we do?
	Get too many people?
	Are we just not able to do that anymore?
	I will play ball with a growing country.
	We're knocking on the door of 350 million people.
	I get it.
	I'll give you three, four days.
	In fact, let's go weekend, Monday, Tuesday.
	Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, November 2, 3, 4, 5.
	I'll do that.
	Like for this year, that's how that would go.
	Man, that's four times as much voting as we used to have.
	This days and days and weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks is crazy now.
	So we need to stop that.
	But until we do, use it and use it well.
	And the logic here has always been that, well, you know, these are kind of Democrat tricks.
	Well, let's beat them at their own game.
	If indeed they're going to give us the opportunity to vote, and you are a Trump voter, especially in a swing state, which I am not.
	I'm with you from the SNC facilities.
	In Texas, where I'm the happy morning host at 6.60am, the answer.
	In Dallas, Fort Worth, Trump's going to win my state.
	If you're listening in California, Kamala Harris is going to win, sadly, the state that you are in.
	But if you're in Arizona, if you're in Michigan, if you're in Wisconsin, if you're in Pennsylvania, Get out there, and whenever voting, be there that day, because you could get hit by a bus, break a leg if something happened.
	So play the field the way that it is striped, and we'll work moving forward to get it striped more sensibly.
	Make sense?
	So the secondary of those two facts is that all this early voting is for the birds.
	But the primary fact is that if it's there, use it.
	Use it long, use it loud.
	It's fun to say, like Chicago, vote early, vote often.
	Nope, we are the folks who actually believe in following the rules, so let's follow those rules.
	And if the rules provide for early voting...
	Or even mail in stuff.
	Do it.
	Do it.
	Because it helps us win.
	And victory is so necessary.
	I know that everybody always says, oh, it's the most important election of our lives.
	I guess in a weird way, with things being ramped up as they are, it's not...
	I mean, was 2008 the most important election of our lives where, you know, Obama or McCain?
	It was pretty important, you know, but Obama served for eight years and we somehow survived.
	Was 2016, Trump and Hillary, the most important election of our lives?
	Oh yeah.
	Oh, because while Reagan, listen, 1980, where people say in the 1980s, that was the first election where I was actually working in media.
	I was doing a radio news job in Charleston, West Virginia.
	Oh my gosh, look where we've all come since then.
	The first election I voted in was 1976.
	I tried to prevent the Carter presidency.
	I just didn't have enough company.
	So, hey, I tried.
	And that was important.
	You know, Carter won, but Carter gave us Reagan, right?
	Carter gave us Reagan.
	And as Reagan was running and then running again and winning his landslide in 1984, if you go back to 80, was it really important to dodge the bullet of a second Jimmy Carter term?
	Absolutely.
	But if we dodged a bullet...
	By Reagan beating Carter in 1980.
	We dodged a cannonball with Trump preventing a Hillary presidency in 2016.
	And now we're looking to dodge a thermonuclear explosion in the heart of the country as Trump faces Kamala Harris.
	She simply cannot win.
	This can not happen.
	I dare think about what the next few years are like if she does.
	So, as we embark on a day where we're going to mention a lot of things, talk about a lot of things, take a lot of calls, and welcome a lot of folks, Matt Boyle is going to join us from Breitbart here a little later on.
	Dave Brat, who ran for and served in Virginia's 7th District of Congress, he's now an economics guy at Liberty University, a fine place.
	Mark Lotter, who is on the Trump 2020 strategic team, he'll join us in the second hour.
	So lots of opportunity to talk about how the economy is doing, where the race is, and plenty of opportunity for hot opinions slung back and forth between you and me on where we are.
	So I'll start.
	Here's where we are 40 days out.
	You can look at polls and then all the cliches start to rush in.
	The only poll that matters is the one taken on election day.
	That is true.
	Trump was way behind in 2016 and won.
	He was at this point, I mean just post Labor Day, substantially behind in 2016 and he won.
	He was substantially behind in 2020.
	And he kind of won there, too, to start another talk show.
	The point being that the way the race looks, even now at T-minus 40 days, is not in any necessary way an inclination as to how it's actually going to go.
	There are so many things that can happen, so many things on the ground, so many things on the campaign trail.
	It doesn't look like we're going to have another debate.
	We have the VP debate Tuesday of next week, of course, but it doesn't look like We're going to have another Trump and Kamala debate.
	I kind of would like one.
	We all remember the first one where President Trump was, shall we say, not up to the best expectations we might've had.
	And Kamala Harris was, by completing a sentence or two in a well-rehearsed performance, substantially above what the expectations for her might've been, even in her own party.
	I believe that in a second debate, that Trump would be better and Kamala would not be as good.
	As such, count me among those who think a second debate would be pretty awesome.
	I'm not going to lament if we don't have one.
	I understand his logic in not wanting one, especially if it is in another enemy coven like CBS.
	CBS is going to do the VP debate.
	Let's see how they do.
	You know, it's kind of funny.
	Is Trump sitting there looking at how CBS does on the vice presidential debate?
	Before figuring out whether to maybe walk into that den to face Kamala.
	I mean, honestly, it's Trump, right?
	It's him.
	He should, and I believe would, have a field day if they attempt to armor up with hostile moderators against him again.
	As ABC did in one of the worst moderated debates in the history of debates.
	So we'll see.
	If we may have one, we may not.
	But my point being, there are a lot of things, there are many, many things yet to happen.
	It seems like every week contains all kinds of things that are to happen.
	President Trump will have remarks later this afternoon.
	We'll listen in on those, play them for you as time allows.
	So there's just a lot going on.
	So where are we right now?
	It's up to us.
	It's up to us, U.S., as Paul Harvey used to say.
	He's a known quantity.
	She's a known quantity.
	He's great.
	She's terrible.
	And I know that's my conservative glasses, but even for people that aren't that political, the country was doing better when he was president.
	The country will either realize that and elect him again, or they won't.
	It comes down to the country.
	Are we fallen enough?
	Are we dumb enough to buy what she's selling?
	I pray that we are not.
	Alrighty, Mark gave us in for Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	It's America First for this Thursday.
	Great to have you here.
	Stick around.
	I'm David Platt.
	I'll see you next time.
	Bye.
	you you
	...
	It's a good thing.
	It is Thursday on America First with Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Mark Davis filling in the great Bob France of Cleveland's own radio fame.
	We'll be with you tomorrow, and then I'm back on Monday.
	So what are we going to do today?
	The answer is a lot of stuff, and guest-wise, let's start with our friend Matthew Boyle.
	Matt is the D.C.
	Bureau Chief of Breitbart News.
	Matt, welcome, sir.
	How are you doing on this busy and fascinating week?
	Uh, very, very busy.
	We're, uh, what, about 40 days out to the elections?
	So, crazy, crazy.
	40 days, indeed.
	Let me ask you the question that is so broad that you can truly take it absolutely anywhere you like, because so much can happen in one day, much less 40, predicting is the riskiest business ever, but just overall, 30,000 foot level, how's it looking to you?
	I think Donald Trump has the edge.
	This is his election to lose.
	The numbers across the battleground states, the polls, etc.
	Look, it's a tight race.
	Don't get me wrong.
	So the polls out there show a tight race.
	But the thing that we're seeing in early vote numbers from places like Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia, etc.
	Early voting in Virginia.
	It seems to suggest that the polls are underestimating Donald Trump again, right?
	And so while the polls look good for him, I think they're underestimating him again.
	So we'll see if that ends up being the case or not on Election Day.
	And I encourage everybody across the right to work as hard as they can all the way to Election Day.
	But the numbers are looking strong.
	Trump seems to have the momentum.
	And let's put it this way.
	Kamala Harris would not be going to the border as she is tomorrow.
	If she was winning the election.
	She would not be demanding another debate if she was winning the election.
	She would not be doing interviews like she did last night.
	With MSNBC's Stephanie Ruhle, or with, you know, answering press questions as she started doing from the traveling press corps around her.
	And trust me on this, the press conference is coming, right?
	Like, she will end up doing a full big girl press conference, just like Joe Biden had to do a full big boy press conference in the works of the great Jean Pierre.
	She will have to do that, and the reason why is because she's trying to turn the trajectory of the race around.
	So again, Trump has the edge.
	This is his race to lose, but it's close right now, and it could break either way.
	Let's peel away something you said early on, because I hear it a lot, and everybody hears it a lot, and I want to hear why you think it is, and that is that Trump underpulls Carville himself, and when the enemy says something, politically speaking, of course, I think it has bipartisan clarity, and that is that if Trump pulls here, his actual result may be slightly higher here.
	Why is that?
	I think for a number of different reasons.
	First off, if you look at, and CNN did a fascinating segment about this the other day as well, Harry Anton, he's a very smart guy.
	He's a lefty at CNN, but a data guy, so he's looking at the numbers and whatnot.
	The first is that Donald Trump's personality doesn't turn people on very much.
	They don't really like his personality, but they like his policies, and they like the results that they got from the administration.
	So, you know, that's the first thing.
	And secondly, I think because of that, and because of the social pressures from the media, the Democrats, etc., and this has lessened a little bit, I think, since 2016 and 2020, but they try to shame people into not being Trump supporters.
	I think that that's broken a little bit, especially in the wake of the assassination attempts.
	Definitely the first one, and even more so after the second one, where it's okay to go out and wear your red Trump hat in public.
	It's okay to have a Trump bumper sticker on your car.
	It's okay to have a Trump sign in your front yard.
	But it didn't used to be like that.
	I mean, you used to be the pariah of the neighborhood if you wore your red hat around, right?
	And so that's lessening a little bit, but I think the social pressures have dropped a little bit.
	And then also, a lot of people don't like to admit, you know, you see the gender divide out there, right?
	Like women are breaking to the Democrat side and men are breaking to the Republican side, especially among young men and women, right?
	Like Kamala Harris is significantly underperforming.
	When we take a look at those constituencies where she just doesn't seem to be doing as well, young voters, voters of color, the Hispanic vote for Trump, the black vote for Trump could absolutely break records.
	do it anyway.
	So that's a view that you can't expect.
	When we take a look at those constituencies where she just doesn't seem to be doing as
	well, young voters, voters of color, the Hispanic vote for Trump, the black vote for Trump could
	absolutely break records.
	Is that because I'm taken back to an NBC camera crew that went to a barbershop in Queens probably
	six, seven months ago and talked to like five or six black guys who all appear to be roughly
	a couple of years either side of 30.
	And they said, who are you going to vote for?
	And not all of them, but most of them said Trump.
	But they said, those of you saying Trump, why would that be?
	And their answer was, well, we're old enough to remember two presidencies, Biden and Trump.
	And with Trump, we had money.
	Do we stand the possibility of people actually looking past peer pressures, looking past culture pressures, media pressures, and looking at their actual lives and using Earth logic?
	I think so, and I think that's how a lot of people vote, right?
	That's why Kamala Harris keeps dodging the question, are you better off today than you were four years ago?
	She and her team cannot answer that question because the answer is a resounding no for the vast majority of Americans.
	And again, she's in office.
	She's the Vice President of the United States.
	She's really the acting President of the United States because we know the other guy's not even there.
	There's a reason why.
	he had to drop out of the race. Now, as for the various demographic breakdowns,
	the fact is, is that what we've seen, part of the reason why they ditched Biden, in addition to,
	I mean, they were perfectly okay with running a corpse when he was leading in the polls, right?
	Like, and so they ditched him because he dropped off significantly among the various demographic
	groups he laid out there, and they were hoping that Kamala could fix it. She's fixed it a little
	bit with some of those groups, right? Like, so you see it a little bit with the black voters,
	you see it a little bit with the Hispanic voters, you see it a little bit with the young voters and
	the women, but not to the numbers that they need to be able to pull together.
	A resounding victory.
	And so Trump has kept some of the gains that he made in the black community, a lot of the gains he's made in the Hispanic community, in fact.
	There's a lot of polls out there that show him even or very over-performing where he's done in the past with Hispanic voters.
	It's a real fascinating thing.
	But also young voters, Kamala's made some inroads there, but not enough, not as much as the Democrats would hope.
	And again, same thing with women.
	It's our job in conservative media to honestly assess what she brings to the table and what she does not.
	I'm fond of saying she's terrible.
	She's been a terrible vice president.
	She's a terrible communicator.
	However, you got to take a look at the better-than-expected debate performance.
	Makes me want a second debate, even though Trump says he doesn't want one.
	He says he doesn't want one.
	I think he would be better.
	She would not be as good.
	Let me ask you about whether you want a second debate, but also the notion of, if Her hiding strategy of just not subjecting herself and not facing accountability for not subjecting herself to media scrutiny It looks like she can run out the clock.
	It's only 40 more days.
	I think that for a couple of things here I think that as somebody works in the media business I would like to see a second debate because it's good for business, right?
	As for if I was giving Trump political advice though, I would tell him not to do it And the reason being is that the current trajectory of the race did not change during that first debate.
	So yeah, she may have won the battle, but she's losing the war.
	She's been on path to lose the war for a while.
	And if you give another debate, then all you're doing is giving her an opportunity at a change in the trajectory of the race and ability to gin up her side even more again, going into I don't know if that's a smart move for Trump politically.
	So again, I would love to see one for business reasons.
	For political reasons, if I were Trump, I wouldn't do it.
	Alright, we're going to take a pause and come back with another segment with Matt Boyle because we could do forever with him.
	He's that great.
	Maybe this is just me getting inside my own bubble, but I want another one because I know, that's right, it would be an opportunity for her to overperform again and gin up her bass.
	It would also, to me, I think it would be an opportunity for him to shut the door on her and I think that's a distinct possibility.
	So I don't know, we'll see.
	Whatever happens, we'll roll with it and we'll cover it.
	Back in a moment with more with Matt Boyle at Breitbart.
	Mark Davison for Dr. Gorka on America First.
	Happy Thursday.
	Back in a moment.
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	Welcome back to America First with Mark Davis.
	Thank you, Dr. G. Dr. Gorka, he'll be back on Tuesday.
	He would not miss debate day itself.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	But I'll be here Monday for sort of pregame day.
	Let's do a little pregame right now, a few days out.
	The wonderful Matt Boyle is here, D.C.
	Bureau Chief of Breitbart.
	We spent a lot of time talking about the presidential matchup.
	But let's spend a little time talking about J.D.
	Vance versus Tim Walz.
	It is tempting to say that on paper that J.D.
	Vance will simply mop the floor with the Minnesota governor.
	It's so obvious that I hesitate to say it.
	You know what I mean?
	How might this go?
	Yeah, well, look, I mean, you see J.D.
	Vance in interviews and with the establishment media on the Sunday shows.
	I mean, he's just a warrior when it comes to this stuff.
	And I think that, you know, as long as he stays on point on the issues and whatnot, they won't be able to get fast, you know, quick ones by him, right?
	Like, they can't do it.
	And he's just an incredible debater.
	I've gotten to know J.D.
	really well over the years and all the way back to before he was running for the U.S.
	Senate.
	In Ohio.
	But I mean, if you go back to watch some of those debates he did in the Ohio Senate race, both in the primary, and then later in the general, those primary debates were really fascinating, right?
	Those were like five-way debates.
	And it was an internal Republican primary.
	So it was a little bit different than what we're going to see here.
	But you want to see what he's going to be like in this debate.
	I mean, watch his debates with Tim Ryan when he was running for the U.S.
	Senate in the general election.
	Leaps and bounds ahead of the Democrats and the moderators.
	He's quick on his feet.
	He's a great communicator.
	And now the latest thing is new data shows that he's more trusted than Tim Walz on the major issues on the economy and inflation on national security and on immigration.
	I got this polling data exclusively from the Senate Opportunity Fund, which is a Senate
	leadership fund connected to Senator Don Barrasso from Wyoming.
	They've been out there polling all sorts of different questions.
	They pulled the VP question, which one is more trusted on the issues, and JD runs away
	with that against walls.
	Walls, meanwhile, when you inform people about his ties to the Chinese Communist Party, he took dozens of trips to China in the lead up to and then during his time in Congress.
	Dozens and dozens of them as a teacher while he was in the National Guard.
	And, you know, there's some real troubling stuff there.
	You inform people about the congressional investigation into that, you're talking about a 54-point swing against him.
	People are 54 points less likely to trust him, Tim Walz, on the issues that they care about.
	And that's not even getting into the fact that Tim Walz repeatedly stole valor and claimed that he went to fight in combat in the War on Terror.
	He made it look like he served in Iraq or Afghanistan.
	He served in neither.
	He went to Italy.
	Now that's fine.
	If he just told the truth and told people that he went to Italy, nobody's saying that that's bad.
	Uh, the actual service that he did is honorable.
	But the point is that lying about it, making it sound like you were in combat taking gunfire from the Taliban or Al Qaeda or something, he wasn't.
	And so why lie about it?
	Well, he was lying about it because he was going out there trying to sell gun control.
	Right.
	He's trying to say that he carried weapons of war in war.
	He didn't carry weapons of war in war, right?
	He carried weapons of war in Italy on an air force base, right?
	Like, so there's a huge difference between, and again, that, that lack of honesty, that dishonesty that you see from Tim Wallace repeatedly, as well as a radical agenda that he supports.
	You can see it in the product of, out of what's happened in Minnesota.
	I think it's really going to hurt him on the debate stage, and I think this debate could be a really monumental VP debate next week, more so than the usual.
	I think it could, too.
	And I think J.D.
	Vance will point out those inconsistencies that Tim Walz has brought to the tail end of his military service.
	The notion about carrying weapons of war in war, lying about the rank that he had achieved upon his exit.
	At which point, Governor Walz will say, hey, nobody should criticize anybody else's military service.
	At which point, J.D.
	will say, I'm not criticizing your service broadly defined, just the dishonesty you showed at the end of it.
	Will that resonate?
	I think it will, and I think that also, because you see the interviews of people who served with him that were in his unit that he was commanding, they knew for months and months and months leading up to that deployment that they were getting deployed, I believe to Iraq, and they knew they were getting deployed.
	He bailed on them, right?
	He had been leading them for decades leading up to that, and he bailed on them.
	He had previously told them that he would go with them if they got deployed.
	and he got out of the way and decided to instead run for Congress.
	The fact that he bailed on his own guys tells you a lot about him, right?
	Like, do you really want him leading the country, right?
	Because you're a heartbeat away if you're the vice president of the United States.
	Do you really want him leading the country?
	Pretty, pretty like I.
	I wouldn't want somebody that runs the ducks for cover after telling his guys that he would go with them and lead them into battle.
	And there are guys in that unit who died or lost limbs and lost severely injured.
	And they're dead because he didn't go.
	Matt, thank you so much.
	It's always time well spent with Matt Boyle.
	Always time well spent reading his stuff at Breitbart, so go do that anytime he writes on me.
	He's been spending a lot of time with Trump, talked a lot about Trump and Vance.
	We're going to talk a little economy with our good friend Dave Brat out of Liberty University in Virginia.
	You remember him in Congress.
	Got a big economic brain.
	We'll talk a little bit about what Kamala's trying to do, what Trump will do.
	Put those side by side when we continue on America First.
	Mark Davison for Dr. Gorka.
	Stay here.
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	you It is America First with Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Just not today or tomorrow, where Bob France will fill in from Cleveland, or Monday, where
	But on Tuesday, Dr. G is back for Vice Presidential Day.
	So let's see what kind of good trouble we can get into fresh off of our chat with Matt Boyle.
	Let's head to Liberty University, a fine community and a fine guy doing the economics game there at Liberty U. You remember him from Congress and you remember him from being on the show.
	And I remember him fondly in both posts.
	Dave Brad is here.
	Dave, welcome, sir.
	Very nice to have you.
	How's it going?
	Thanks.
	You bet!
	Great!
	Thanks for having me on Mark!
	So there was Kamala, on with Stephanie Ruhle, and she offered up all of these softballs.
	It's like, please tell everybody about your economic plan.
	And it's now a meme.
	I mean, my wife wanted me to take out the garbage.
	I told her I was raised in a middle-class family.
	Ba-dum-boom.
	I mean, that's not the go-to thing that you say when you don't want to answer the question.
	So what would her answer be if we were to hook her up to a lie detector and make her answer it?
	And what are your thoughts about a Kamala presidency from an economic viewpoint?
	Yeah, well, my views on the economics profession as a whole are dismal.
	And for the Biden administration and Harris potential candidacy, all political views of my own, it's even worse.
	And the evidence and the way to track this very easily, without showing bias, is just follow the polling on what's most important to the American people.
	And so issue number one is inflation, 25% inflation over the past four years.
	I don't think she knows what it is.
	She mentioned inflation and talked about a loaf of bread for 30 seconds or so, but that was her answer on inflation.
	That's the most troubling issue to the American people and no response, no understanding of the issue and certainly no solution.
	Secondly, 14 million people, border invasion, illegal immigrants.
	Economics is supposed to track the full cost of that, right?
	Not just the price tag, but the full health care cost, crime cost, social trauma to cities where they import 20,000 into a small city of 50,000.
	Where's the economics profession?
	And she was in charge of the border.
	And so, you know, nothing on that.
	They're just dancing around, avoiding all these tough issues.
	And then the final one is the cost, the total cost of the never-ending wars.
	What's the cost of a million dead young boys, dead and injured, a million in Ukraine, due to our foreign policy, where we imposed a coup d'etat in 2014, and we're now preaching democracy from our State Department after a coup d'etat?
	Now we have long-range missiles.
	Biden is having Zelensky over to his hometown in Pennsylvania on just a, I don't know what you call it, crony capitalism of the worst sort, right?
	$88 billion, I think, in munitions that are going to go to his hometown in Pennsylvania conveniently.
	And there's going to be more death.
	When Zelensky walked away from a peace plan with Russia two years ago, And so on the economics, there's nothing there.
	I wish the American people were more concerned than they already are.
	The problem is the middle class is concerned, but the top 10% of this country own 90% of the stocks.
	And so the Federal Reserve is jacking up the stock market.
	The rich are loving it.
	There's going to be a crash.
	Every financial analyst knows there's a huge bubble just like in 07-08.
	All the cards are going to come tumbling down and just nobody knows what the Black Swan credit event that's going to cause.
	So that's in brief.
	It's not looking good right now.
	That is the great value of asking you this, because if you take something like the border, people view it as kind of a cultural or social or security issue, which it is, but it's also economic.
	People think about Ukraine and people think about the global strategies of all this and European issues, which it is, but it's also economic.
	In our remaining couple of minutes here, let me run something that's hardcore economic at you and see what your thoughts are.
	Because I have a back and forth, even in my own head, about tariffs.
	I saw President Trump in Pennsylvania earlier saying, hey John Deere tractor, love John Deere tractor, you start trying to build tractors in Mexico, I'm slapping a 200% tariff on them.
	Is that a great America first way to encourage buying and manufacturing in America?
	Or is it a cost to consumers that makes it a bad idea?
	Which do you say?
	Well, I say it all depends on what your objective is.
	China just launched ICBMs into the Pacific Ocean with nuclear warhead attached, a dummy one.
	First time that's ever happened in 45 years.
	So if you're the President of the United States and you're looking out for our economy and you're facing an enemy that's a totalitarian communist surveillance state, I think tariffs are a very good solution, and that's just the starting.
	I would cut them off from all financial institutions, the stock exchange, Hollywood, all of our universities, everything, until they learn the golden rule over there in the communist setup, which they'll never learn, because they don't believe in human rights, they don't believe in God, etc.
	Yes, they're economic.
	But what's the objective you're trying to reach as the President of the United States?
	I hope it's peace and prosperity like Trump had for all four of his years, and which we're suffering.
	We have four wars and 14 hotspots right now.
	They're damaging this country down to the core.
	This is tremendous because I've mentioned two things that people don't think of as first being economic and you
	remind us that they are And then I ask you something that is absolutely economic
	like tariffs and you you spin it very skillfully to tell us that really it's more
	Than economic. It's almost kind of a larger moral issue of what you're trying to do on the world stage. All right, so
	last thing What's the the strongest Trump economic message to make to
	people?
	Especially these younger folks the folks just starting out in life
	What's the strongest Trump economic pitch that he should make in these remaining 40 days?
	Yeah, I'd say love your neighbor as yourself.
	If I was President Trump, I'd say I gave you peace and prosperity four years ago, and now you're plunged into war, inflation, a border invasion, and it's all a totality, right?
	The economics is moral.
	The moral is involved with geopolitics and whatever.
	We used to teach this, you know, in the great Western tradition.
	It's all related.
	It's called systematic theology, systematic philosophy.
	Adam Smith knew all this.
	All the great minds knew all this, but Unfortunately, the neo-Marxists are running the education as well.
	With about 60 seconds left, let me flip the coin and say, if Kamala tells the truth about what her economic plan is, it should repel people.
	if she remains unresponsive, will she be able to get away with another month and a fraction
	of simply being unresponsive?
	Um, unfortunately, I think the answer is yes, because they own all of it, Inc.
	But this is, you know, it's not ultimately about the president.
	This is on we the people.
	And if we the people allow that to run our system, you know, morally, God's up in the heavens looking at us and giving us the option to do the good thing.
	And if we fail, it's on us.
	It's ultimately up to us.
	I kind of started this hour saying that.
	It's always like when smart people say stuff that we seem to be in agreement.
	Dave Brat, thank you.
	Best to you in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
	I'm Mark Davidson for Dr. G, we will continue.
	Thank you.
	I I
	I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it.
	The Pointer Sisters said it well, and I'm short-term excited about the remaining time we have to spend together here on America First today.
	Excited in advance about Monday.
	Who knows what will happen this weekend?
	We'll sort it out together on the Monday get-together here on America First.
	Dr. Gorka returns on Tuesday.
	Excited about Tuesday night.
	Listen, having just come off our chat with Dave Brat about the Kamala word salads on the economy, enjoy this, if enjoy really is the verb.
	She's sitting down with Stephanie Ruhle, and listen, as Kamala, who actually, remember, wants to be President of the United States, wrestles with the notion of, she said, I'm going to bring prices down, I'm going to bring prices down, I'm going to bring prices down.
	Really?
	How?
	Prices are still high.
	Yeah, I agree with you.
	You said you want to take this on by going after those who engage in price gouging.
	Yeah.
	But as somebody who supports free markets, who's a capitalist, how do you go after price gouging without implementing price controls?
	Because once we get in this zone, people start to get worried and they say, I don't know what she stands for.
	So just to be very frank, I am never going to apologize for going after Companies and corporations that take advantage of the desperation of the American people.
	And as Attorney General, I saw this happen.
	In the midst of an emergency, whether it be an extreme weather event or even the pandemic, we saw it.
	Where those few companies, not the majority, not most, but those few companies that would take advantage of the desperation of people and jack up prices.
	Yeah, I'm going to go after them.
	Yes, I'm going to go after them.
	And that is part of a much more comprehensive plan on what we can do to bring down the cost of living, including housing, including the everyday needs of the American people.
	And what more can anyone add after that?
	What really is there to say?
	Well, I've got about a minute, so maybe I'll say a couple of actual things.
	Like, there's such a thing as a politician whose policies are bad.
	That's Obama.
	There's such a thing as a politician who wanders astray and becomes even more noxious as the years pass.
	That's Biden.
	She is all of those things.
	And one other really important thing that we must all remember, and that is that she is dumb as a mud fence.
	I know a lot of stupid people.
	I had stupid moments myself.
	I mean, none of us is immune, but I mean, I know some people who are hardcore dumb.
	But often they're recognizable, and that makes them kind of harmless.
	But there's nothing quite as bizarre as watching somebody who is genuinely this intellectually challenged trying to assemble these refrigerator magnet sentences and seem smart.
	Like the college freshman trying to cobble together something in a 500-page composition book and just throwing words out.
	Just, please, oh please, oh please, let it make sense.
	That's her.
	That's what we've got to deal with.
	November 5th is coming.
	What are we going to do?
	Mark Davidson for Dr. G, stick around, much more to come.
	You're welcome.
	Thank you.
	Have a great day.
	Thank you.
	Bye.
	you you
	I I'm Sebastian Gorka and this is America First with our very special guest host, the voice of Dallas, Mark Davis.
	Thank you very much, Dr. G. Appreciate it.
	We are here together on this Thursday, the 26th day of September, 40 days to the election.
	So there are a couple of things that I wanted to dive into here.
	And just our next segment, we'll be talking to Mark Lotter, who is on the Trump 2020 strategy team.
	So let's talk a little bit about strategy.
	Let's talk a little bit about issues, because if indeed It is our goal for this election to be driven by issues and not shallow sideshows and meaningless things that just don't matter next to the actual concept of who's going to run the country for the next four years.
	there are some truths that come to mind.
	And when I say truth, I don't just throw that around.
	As Daniel Patrick Moynihan once said, we're all entitled to our own opinions,
	but we're not entitled to our own facts.
	So here are some facts that should guide the election 40 days from now.
	We've spent some time today talking about the economic facts, the fact of our wrecked economy,
	the fact of inflation, the fact of mortgage rates now versus under Trump, the fact of gas prices now
	versus under Trump.
	And if anybody has the eyes to see and the brainstem to process what the last few years have been like versus what it was like under Trump, and I don't just mean pre-COVID, I mean during COVID, a lot of times folks on the left will say, You know, that Trump left us with an economy that was troubled in 2012.
	Well, that's because COVID had resulted in our economy collapsing onto itself.
	And we willfully did that to ourselves, state by state.
	And early on, when Trump was president, and you know, before Fauci became an epithet, nobody knew what was going on.
	Everybody wondered, you know, what we need to do.
	Ron DeSantis in Florida spent time saying, hey, wait a minute, maybe there's some things we need to hit a pause button on.
	And then the measure of life in the COVID era is how fast did you learn?
	Did you stay attached to that strange teat of misinformation?
	that led people to mask their toddlers, that led people to this six feet of distancing nonsense, that led us to all manners of horrible science offered to us by people who cloaked themselves in the literal white lab coats of science.
	And as Fauci told us, that to disagree with me is to disagree with science.
	An arrogance so stunning that it resonates still today.
	So even in, and it's so funny, every time I invoke COVID, are you like me about this?
	Do you even believe that happened?
	I feel like we were in a terrible movie, just some terrible, you know, role-playing game where that, you know, that, that, that is forever etched onto.
	And it's kind of funny.
	I mean, I'm a functioning adult and, and it took whatever toll it did on my industry, on my family, on, on my, you know, entire wave of life in terms of what was open and what was not.
	But imagine being a kid.
	Imagine being seven, or maybe even a little younger.
	If you're a little younger, we're masking kindergartners, we're making first graders do school from home for months when they have the attention span of a gnat.
	I didn't mean to get bogged down on the whole COVID thing, but even through that nightmare and during that nightmare, Trump was a better manager of that on his last months as he
	handed an economy that was in the process of trying to recover over to the Biden-Harris administration.
	And what have they done with it?
	With profligate spending, with COVID slush funds, my gosh, follow the money.
	Not to make everything about COVID, but that's kind of where I am chronologically at the moment.
	And then as the Biden-Harris administration played out and COVID sort of blended back into our into the tapestry and into our rearview mirror, the economy was theirs to do with as they pleased.
	And what they and a Democrat Senate did with All due honesty, sometimes insufficient pushback from a Republican House, was apply all kinds of leftism and economic chicanery, more spending out of control, more money down the rat hole of Ukraine, more COVID slush funds, more things in the so-called Inflation Reduction Act
	Something with a name that you laugh lest you cry at the fraudulent title of the Inflation Reduction Act.
	They have wrecked our economy.
	And that's just a fact.
	The facts are on Trump's side.
	The fact of the borders.
	are on Trump's side.
	They are as open as they've ever been.
	They are as unserious as they've ever been.
	Our border agents have become travel agents, simply stamping by routine everybody's documents.
	In you go, in you go, off you go, here's a phone, here's some money, you know, plane ride to Missouri and we'll see you in six years.
	As if that will ever happen.
	These are, the economy is like a 75-25 issue in terms of people who think it's
	great and people who think it's crappy.
	The borders are probably an 80-20 issue in terms of people who just, if they just honestly open
	their eyes and say, look, do we have a border? Is it working well? Who in the world can say
	that this is working well? And let's go globally for a moment.
	This seems like, have you been keeping track of Israel these last few days?
	Have you been keeping track of what America, a supposed ally of Israel, has been doing and saying in these past few weeks and months?
	Joe Biden and this group of frat boys around him, your Antony Blinken and some of these other folks, your Jake Sullivan, They talked a good game for a few weeks.
	I'll be generous.
	Maybe a couple of months.
	Israel has every right to defend itself.
	It has every right to defend itself.
	That's a lovely thing for you to say.
	It's an accurate thing for you to say.
	But you know what it requires of you?
	If you say that Israel has a right to defend itself and you are President of the United States, you have to give them what they need and not stop.
	So, was there money?
	Was there war material?
	Were there things that we did for Israel?
	There were.
	Up to a point.
	Up to the point at which the Hamas wing of the Democrat Party called a halt to it.
	The Hamas wing of the Democrat Party will not allow Joe Biden and surely will not allow Kamala Harris to support Israel in the way that a real ally does.
	And right now comes the story that we are withholding intelligence that could be of value as Israel wages a battle in the north.
	Hamas was sort of a southern war theater.
	Hezbollah is up toward the north where Lebanon meets Israel.
	And it's the same kind of thing.
	Israel, faced on so many fronts by countries and communities and ideologies that want it
	violently wiped from the map.
	And when you have that going on, when those are the states that are next door to you,
	you can't have a two-state solution.
	You can't have a ceasefire.
	A ceasefire, are you high?
	A ceasefire would allow Hezbollah to regroup, rearm, and kill more Israelis.
	And that is exactly what the Biden administration is, I won't say it was what they want, they actively want, but they're willing, they are willing to have that result, and it shows through their shameful abandonment of our ally Israel.
	And you know, these are also facts, and they are facts that should be clear.
	I don't know.
	I talk to people for a living.
	Dr. Corker does, too.
	We do talk shows around here.
	And I've had a lot of conversations with Jewish voters.
	And ultimately, the ones who have been conservative have been, you know, voting for Reagan, voting
	for, you know, the Republicans that we cough up from McCain to Romney, and ultimately voting
	for Trump.
	Some have not.
	For the American Jewish voter voting for Kamala Harris, it is simply true that there are things
	more important to you than Israel, which, by the way, is your choice to make.
	We all get our priorities.
	Silly, silly me, I want strong borders, not because I'm a conservative, but because I want a functioning country.
	I want Trump's tax policies, economic policies, pro-business policies, not because I'm a Republican, but because I like prosperity for my country.
	I want a president who knows how many genders there are, not because I'm a conservative or because I'm a Republican, but because I'm a human being and I don't want to see our children sexually mutilated on this altar of trans lunacy.
	So to the American Jewish voter, if other things matter to you, if Kamala is just attractive to you in certain ways, domestic leftist policies, global leftist policies, okay, that is a priority list that you get to make.
	But it does mean it means that there are things more important to you than the ultimate fate of Israel.
	And what an interesting irony it is that evangelical Christians, of which I am one, that Israel means more to us than it does to you, the Jewish Democrat voter, the Jewish
	voter for Kamala. So I don't know.
	That either resonates with you or it doesn't. They're either facts on the ground that mean
	something to you or they don't. And if this is a fact-based election, Trump will win and it's not
	that close.
	I fear that it'll be dominated by some irrelevancies like Kamala's pigment or plumbing, the whole woman of color thing.
	I don't care.
	It's not a positive or a negative.
	You want a woman president?
	Give me Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
	You know, you want an African-American president?
	Give me Alan West.
	I mean, you know, none of those things matter to me.
	So we'll see how it all goes.
	Let's run these things by Brother Lotter.
	Mark Lotter joins us next on the Strategy Team for Trump in 2020.
	We'll talk 2024 strategy when we continue.
	Stay here.
	you you
	you I'm going to go ahead and end this video here. Thank you
	for watching.
	Great to have you here on America First with Dr. Sebastian Gorka, even when the fill-in guys are here.
	Mark Davis, fill-in guy from Dallas-Fort Worth, where I'm the happy morning host at 6.60 a.m.
	The Answer in DFW.
	The great Bob France of Cleveland fame will be with you tomorrow.
	I'll be back on Monday to see what the heck happened over the weekend.
	And then Dr. G back on Tuesday for, oh my, are you ready, Vice Presidential Debate Night on Tuesday night.
	With J.D.
	Vance and Tim Walz.
	How's that gonna go?
	How are the next 40 days going to go?
	Let's talk to a familiar face and voice, Mark Lotter, Chief Communications Officer at America First Policy Institute.
	And of course, he was Director of Strategic Communications for Trump and Pence in 2020.
	Mark, great to have you, sir.
	How you doing?
	Good to be with you, Mark.
	Great to be with you.
	Thank you.
	So let me ask you the same broad question I'm asking everybody.
	It's so vague that you can take it anywhere.
	40 days out.
	What's your crystal ball look like?
	What are the variables?
	What gets us there with a Trump success?
	What's your thought, your take, 40 days out?
	Well, having worked on the 2016 and the 2020 campaigns, I can put this in perspective.
	Donald Trump is sitting in a better position right now than he was in 2016 and in 2020.
	Kamala Harris is underperforming Joe Biden from this point in 2020 by about five points nationally, three to five points in the battleground states, and she is even underperforming Hillary Clinton In 2016.
	So it's Donald Trump in the driver's seat and I think it's for one reason and one reason alone.
	People understand that with Donald Trump things were more affordable, border was more secure, world was safer when he was in the White House rather than Kamala Harris and Joe Biden.
	I hope they do.
	I'm so glad you phrased it that way because I was cobbling together some thoughts earlier and I said, listen, this is what's right in front of everybody's face.
	If it's earth logic, as I call it, if it's fact-based, then Trump wins and it won't even be that close.
	But there's so many obfuscating things, so many people getting their news off of TikTok, so much weirdness in the corrupt media culture, etc, etc.
	And a lot of these polls, I hear everybody say, oh, it's going to be a razor-thin race, which it could be.
	But if people look at the factors you describe, it's simply not going to be that close.
	So what do we have to do in 40 days to drum into people's heads to focus on facts and not on sideshows?
	Well, you know, obviously, The media is going to create its own narrative.
	They have to because they can't win on the facts.
	That's why they're running basically a campaign with the media in cahoots for against Trump.
	You can't be for Kamala because she's not for anything.
	Her record is horrible.
	So you have to run against Trump.
	But I do want to correct one thing.
	This is a razor thin race.
	I still think it's razor thin with advantage to Trump because even though Kamala is performing
	five points worse well it was a 43,000 vote difference in three states. Go
	back to 2016 Kamala still doing worse but it was an 80-some thousand vote
	difference in three different states.
	So, where the vote differences show up, that is absolutely key.
	I think Donald Trump is doing well.
	But this isn't gonna be a Ronald Reagan runaway.
	It's not gonna be Barack Obama in 2008.
	And the only way we can make sure that it isn't one of those things?
	Is, for the next 40 days, go find 5 people, or 10 people, who may or may not vote, don't know if their vote's gonna count, don't trust the outcome or the media, so I don't know.
	I mean, my kids are gonna have soccer or gymnastics or football.
	Nah, doesn't matter.
	Get your vote out.
	Get it out early if you need to.
	Go on election day if you want to.
	But make sure that if you're not registered, register.
	Get an early ballot if you need one.
	Go there on election day.
	And if your friends have to drag you there, voluntarily of course.
	Of course!
	And by the way, Mark's message is particularly germane, and please follow this practice in Arizona, in Michigan, in Pennsylvania, in Nevada, etc., etc., in the swing states.
	Do you subscribe to the notion that national polls, I hear this a lot, oh, Kamala has a three-point lead in the national polls.
	Well, if you heavy up, if California is 100% Kamala, which it pretty well is close to being, that's going to skew the national polls.
	It is the state-by-state polls in the swing states.
	That's really all that matters in this home stretch, isn't it?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Look, if we elected presidents by national vote, then we would campaign differently than we do.
	You would spend time in Los Angeles.
	You would spend time in Southern California, which, by the way, produces one of the highest numbers of Republican votes of any state.
	Problem is, they're outnumbered 10 to 1.
	But they still produce a huge amount of Republican votes.
	And I want those Republicans out there because we need those to carry House races.
	Same thing holds true for New York.
	But we don't do it that way.
	And so if you win by 90% or 9 votes, it's still the same number of 53 Electoral College votes in California, no matter the margin of victory.
	But one thing I would tell you is that, remember, the final margin in 2020 was about 4.5 percentage points. 4.5%.
	It came down in reality to 43,000 votes in three states.
	So it doesn't, the national polls don't matter.
	If you start seeing the polling averages, not just some individual polls because those things are fake and baked, but if you start seeing like the RealClearPolitics average showing Kamala Harris up 7, 8, 9 points, then you've got to have, then you're worried.
	If you show her up tied 1, 2, maybe even 3 points, that means Donald Trump's winning.
	Is that where we are?
	Because I'll frequently hear people on the left say, boy, when's the last time you guys won the popular vote?
	I'd love to win the popular vote so that we could say we did.
	That is not how we elect presidents, thank God.
	The president is sort of the CEO of the federation of 50 gathered states, and you have to win all 50 states.
	Some people apparently need a civics lesson on that.
	But is that sort of where we are?
	That as population centers continue to grow and continue to skew left, That the Electoral College is our savior?
	That that's really the only way we can win?
	I mean, I don't know when we might win a popular vote election moving forward.
	Well, I gotta think at some point the land that produced Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon's gonna come to its senses and ditch the People's Republic of California and say, I can't deal with the high crime, the high taxes, the homelessness, the out-of-control energy prices, and it's time to start getting some American leadership Back into California.
	Same thing for New York.
	Would you look, I was just up there earlier this week.
	I mean, there's homeless on the streets and there's immigrants everywhere.
	Crime is out of control.
	Their mayor now faces indictment.
	Their state is being investigated.
	I mean, when do you start going, hmm, definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
	But until then, yeah, we win the Electoral College.
	Some of those things may be in progress as we speak, especially in New York.
	You know, Trump and his famous appearance there in the South Bronx.
	I invoked earlier in the show an NBC camera crew going into a barbershop in Queens where like five or six black guys said, all of the things being equal, I'm voting for Trump because with him we had money.
	When people look at facts rather than just family histories and peer pressure and what the local culture wants you to do.
	then really interesting things can happen.
	And you take a look at, we've got 60 seconds for this and we'll do another segment.
	Interesting that the Teamsters did not endorse Kamala.
	That's not the same as endorsing Trump, but boy, the non-endorsement from Kamala was conspicuous
	in its absence, was it not?
	Now, here's your headline, Mark.
	Donald Trump is breaking apart the Democrat coalitions one by one.
	When he is doubling his support with black Americans, when he is now in the lead with Hispanic Americans, at least a 10 to 15 point increase, when you're getting 60% of the Teamsters and the UAW president has to say, even though we're going to do what we always do, our members are voting Trump, he's picking them apart one at a time and he's blowing the whole thing up.
	Works for me.
	Let's talk some VP debate preview.
	Mark Lotter's here.
	We're going to take some more moments with him and talk about a wide variety of things.
	We're going to start taking calls from you as well.
	833-33-GORKA.
	833-334-6752.
	Grab a line because I want to trade some hot topics with you as well on America First.
	Stick around.
	Mark Davidson for Dr. G will continue.
	You You
	You Well, welcome back to America First with Mark Davis.
	Thank you, Dr. G. Mark Davis, whether you're from DFW, home of the North Texas headquarters of Salem News Channel, Salem Radio Network, et cetera, et cetera.
	Whether you are listening or watching, we welcome you.
	And we're welcoming Mark Lotter, who had that wonderful gig in 2020 as director of strategy for Trump and Pence.
	Let's talk strategy moving forward.
	Mark Lotter, do you or do you not want another Trump and Kamala debate?
	I do not.
	For one simple reason.
	Kamala failed to seal the deal during the first debate.
	She could not tell the American people what they wanted to know.
	How are you going to lower gas and grocery prices?
	How are you going to secure the border?
	How are you going to deal with the wars that started on your watch both in Europe and in the Middle East?
	And what we got was a bunch of nonsense and words that really don't say anything.
	And so why on earth would you give Kamala Harris another bite at the apple?
	Why would you stand on a stage next to her and bring 60 million people in to watch her to try to get a do-over?
	She botched it, and so I'm not giving her another shot.
	She had it, she missed, and now it's gonna be on her.
	And as of, you know, the interviews that we saw earlier this week, and that speech in Pittsburgh, she still can't do it.
	So that's on her.
	Well, that's just something the matter with me.
	I mean, I'm asking everybody, all these people I respect.
	And by the way, there is no really wrong answer to this.
	If you don't want one, as you don't, and as Matt Boyle didn't at Bright Party, that I don't want it, I don't want it.
	The reason I kind of do is I think he would be better and she would be not as good.
	And for the reasons you just described, you almost made my point for me.
	She's terrible.
	And I know she'd be well rehearsed again.
	But I don't know.
	It's moot because he doesn't seem to want one.
	Well, the other thing about that too, you have to remember is that if you do that, if you give her another debate, you've now just created a one-week news cycle where the mainstream corporate media are going to say Kamala won the first one, Kamala won the first one, and short of her actually pulling a Joe Biden, they're going to say Kamala won the second one.
	So you're not going to win.
	The American people are sitting there shaking their head going, I don't understand what she just said, but the media loves it.
	So don't even give them the opportunity to try to claim some fake victory.
	All right, I'll stop saying those crazy things, because that is a really good point.
	Because just on paper, Trump would be fine, I'm sure, and she would be incomprehensible, I'm sure.
	But if she, again, is somehow able to survive the night, it will be viewed as a Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan, Harriet Tubman-style moment of American greatness.
	So let's talk about a debate that absolutely is going to happen.
	Another one on paper, I would think that J.D.
	Vance would again just destroy Tim Walz, but that's probably a little bit of my conservative bubble talking.
	I think it might still happen, but what's your thought in real terms of how you think that debate night's going to go?
	Well I absolutely think J.D.
	is going to do a great job.
	He's a great storyteller and he has this way of connecting with people because he's real.
	And so I think he goes into this debate very well prepared.
	And he's also been doing a lot of media interviews which I was actually telling somebody before the show today that that puts Tim Walz in a difficult position because A. he doesn't know what the media is going to ask him.
	B, he hasn't been able to road test and fine-tune his answers because he's doing the basement strategy alongside Kamala, so that puts him at a disadvantage.
	But, let's be realistic here.
	Nobody votes for the undercard.
	Doesn't matter who you are, nobody votes for the undercard.
	They don't go into the voting booth and go, I'm voting for so-and-so for vice president.
	So, as long as they don't self-implode, as long as you don't get a Lloyd Benson, Dan Quayle moment, which even then destroyed him, but didn't destroy the campaign they went on to win, they don't matter.
	Once both of these candidates check the box with the American people that, eh, should the worst happen, I can see myself, they're fine, they've probably got enough experience to do the job, And then it becomes a proxy war where J.D.
	is going to be attacking Kamala through Tim Walz.
	Tim Walz is going to deflect and try to lie about, you know, Donald Trump through J.D.
	Vance, and that's really what this is.
	Last minute, minute and a half, is it a good message?
	Because I know I could open up the phone lines right now and hear from all kinds of people scared to death about cheating, scared to death about fraud, and they should be.
	It's a human system and it's never going to be perfect.
	I'm a big fan of the optimistic, the thing you said, get five people to go with you, especially in the swing states.
	Let us outvote the cheat.
	Let us show up in such numbers that any sinister skullduggery is rendered mathematically insignificant.
	Is that good messaging?
	Yes, absolutely.
	If you worry about that, if you don't think it matters, remember all of the stuff they did.
	During the pandemic.
	Mailing out live ballots to anybody and everybody.
	To people that didn't live there, might not even be alive.
	Removing signature verifications.
	All of the things that in some cases have been declared illegal.
	In some cases they've said cannot ever happen again.
	Think of all of the stuff they did.
	And it came down to 43,000 votes in three states.
	That's what it was.
	Mark Lotter, such a wonderful session with you, sir.
	Thank you very much.
	Best to you, and congrats on all you do, and it's always great to spend time with you here on America First, or on any show where I might run into you, because I'm everywhere.
	What can I tell you?
	The great Mark Lotter.
	All right, and with that, let's hand things over to you, shall we?
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	Let's go.
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	Mark Davis in for Dr. Gorka on America First.
	And I'm Dr. Gorka.
	I'm Dr. Gorka.
	you you
	you I'll see you next time.
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	Let's talk to America, shall we?
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	All kinds of things on the plate.
	We kind of have an election.
	It's 40 days away.
	The mayor of New York indicted for all kinds of improper campaign contributions.
	From Turkey?
	What even is that?
	And was Eric Adams thrown under the bus in a liberal state because he had the courage to speak some actual truths about immigration?
	We'll play you some of what the good mayor had to say and see if that's why he's in such trouble.
	And a vice presidential debate coming up next Tuesday.
	All kinds of stuff going on.
	Pick something.
	We're here for you and glad that you are here.
	Mark Davis in for Dr. Gorka.
	Let's roll to Pittsburgh.
	Sam, Mark Davis in for Dr. G. It's a pleasure to have you.
	How are you doing?
	I'm doing well.
	How are you?
	Good, thanks.
	Hey, so I hear you and other Republicans indicate that U.S.
	citizens or immigrants, they're always getting handouts and they're always getting welfare and they're getting their Obama phones and their whatever you guys make up.
	And somehow, Uh, Republicans hate that.
	Hate that the government provides any kind of support or assistance to Americans.
	Ooh, that's kind of broad.
	Let's find two.
	That's way too broad.
	The things that I oppose are things that are wasteful, things that government should not be spending money on.
	Kindness is never something that's been attached to government.
	That's what people are supposed to do for each other.
	We may have a different view about that, which is fine, but the spending that I criticize is things that government should not be spending money on.
	So is there an example that occurs to you of something you don't think that I would approve of government spending money on?
	But you do.
	I would 100% not give one cent to Israel.
	Wow, why not?
	One cent.
	I know, I asked why not.
	Well, I'm curious why MAGA wants to give all the money to Israel.
	I thought the people were American.
	Wow, Matt, I think there are plenty of Jewish Democrats who actually would like to as well.
	That's one of those things that tends to cross a lot of political lines.
	Israel is an ally, the only true democracy in the Middle East.
	We have a historic, for some people it's biblical, it doesn't have to be for everybody.
	So those are the reasons why, yes, they're a long-time historic and traditional ally.
	So the question comes back to you, why do you want to cut Israel off completely?
	Because I don't care about Israel.
	I'm an American.
	I love America, and Americans should be getting that money.
	And I don't really care about Israel.
	I don't care about any other country.
	I don't know why you...
	I don't know why evangelical Republicans love Israel.
	Hey, you know what?
	If you love Israel, why don't you go move there?
	I don't need to move there.
	I just believe that they're an ally worth supporting.
	And I'll tell you something, rather than being driven by... because I was going to say it reeked of anti-Semitism there for a moment, but I'm going to give you some benefit of the doubt.
	You just don't think a dime of... you're against foreign aid 100% to any other country.
	Do I have you right?
	Well, you know, we have given Israel over $40 billion.
	Actually, let me have you answer the question first.
	Are you consistent in that you oppose a dime of foreign aid going to any other country?
	Am I correct?
	I have a question then.
	Are there any other countries that we give and support to the level of Israel?
	Not many.
	And again, and you have my answer for that.
	I've given it to you like three times.
	So I'm just trying to, for the third time, trying to find out if indeed you got some company.
	There are some people who don't believe in any foreign aid for any other country at all.
	I'm going to presume that's you unless you tell me that it's not.
	And let me provide the following consequence for that.
	So our ally in the Middle East, is might be overrun by hostile enemies that want it wiped
	from the river to the sea, and that's okay with you? I don't care. That's called life.
	That's called life and history.
	You know what?
	That is a stark and, to me, cold viewpoint, but there's a consistency to it, and you're not the only person who feels that way.
	Sam, I appreciate you.
	Thanks for being on the program.
	Let us roll to Orlando.
	JJ, Mark Davis, in for Dr. Gorka.
	Welcome to the show.
	Happy Thursday.
	How are you?
	Happy Thursday, yes.
	I was calling about your last guest, Mark Lotta.
	I couldn't agree more with him that he should not have another debate with Kamala.
	She had a chance to have a second debate and turned it down.
	And here she's saying she wants to go back again to CNN.
	That's destroying norms.
	They don't normally go back to the same network.
	Yeah, correct.
	But let me ask you something, and it's a question I would have for Mark Lotter, and it's a question I would have for Matt Boyle.
	All of whom don't want the second debate, and that's fine.
	I'm not going to sit here and lobby for it and say there's something horrible if it doesn't happen.
	But one of the reasons that I think a second debate would be better than okay is I have enormous confidence in Trump.
	And I also have pretty strong confidence that she'd be terrible.
	I mean, you think she's going to do two pretty good performances in a row?
	I mean, even the media culture that loves her can't spin last night and say that it was great.
	The New York Times said last night was lousy on MSNBC.
	I think there's a strong chance that Trump could shut the door on her if there were a second debate.
	She's just going to tell us again, try to keep working in how she's from a middle-class family.
	I know, I know.
	And you know why she's doing this?
	To kiss up to people that would probably actually vote.
	You know?
	She's just kissing up to people.
	Indeed so.
	We're a nation of this and that.
	She sounds like she's trying to be like Obama, where she's like, that's not who we are.
	We're a great nation.
	Indeed so.
	Kissing up to the voter.
	In a couple of final minutes, since you are in Orlando, well inland, how's your state doing as the Hurricane Helene bears down on you?
	It's really a big state, and sadly the people in Tallahassee look like they're going to get the direct hit.
	If they can't handle it, it's really going to get the brunt.
	So we're just getting some occasional out-of-bands right now.
	It's funny.
	Well, we are thinking about you and all of you in the Sunshine State.
	J.J., thank you very much.
	I appreciate it a lot.
	And in fact, speaking of people who we're thinking about and who I've been sharing time with, who I share time with every day, those of you here in the Salem Radio Network, Salem News Channel environment know my great friend, Mike Gallagher, Who knocked out his show.
	Mike lives in St.
	Petersburg, out on Pinellas County, sticking out into Tampa Bay.
	Now the hurricane is plowing into what's called Florida's Big Bend, up toward Panama City and Destin and some of those.
	And it's going to plow right over the state capital of Tallahassee.
	And then roll into Georgia.
	I mean, Atlanta is going to have hellacious rains.
	I've heard from Mike.
	He did his show, got home.
	I asked him, that's good.
	How are you going to get into work tomorrow?
	Because he's got to come across the Howard Franklin, the Courtney Campbell Causeway, some of those bridges that span Tampa Bay.
	Good luck with that.
	All of our thoughts, all of our prayers, all of our good wishes with our fellow Americans in Florida.
	Mark Davis, wherever you are, thanks for listening.
	Thanks for watching.
	In for Dr. Gorka on America First.
	We'll be right back.
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	You It is America First with Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Short segment to wrap up the hour, so let's get one person on and then we'll carry things forward.
	Our phone number again, 833-33-GORKA, 833-33-GORKA, 833-334-6752.
	Let us head to the magnificent state of Utah, Esther Mark-Davison for Dr. G. Welcome and happy Thursday.
	How are you?
	Good, thanks.
	Hey, I wanted to comment on a caller, a few callers ago, his name was Sam, I think, who said that if all of the If the nation of Israel was wiped off the face of the earth, then that's life.
	I know.
	A little cavalier, huh?
	You said, well, at least you're consistent.
	And I wanted to call and say he's not consistent, because the first thing he said when he called in was that, why do we oppose giving aid and handouts to illegal immigrants?
	And I would say, well, if he was going to be consistent, that's giving aid.
	To another country.
	And so if he's going to be consistent, then it needs to be, well then if these people don't get phones, don't get food, don't get housing, or get shipped back to their other country to die, well then that's life.
	That is a superb point.
	I've got to talk about people after they're gone, but I sort of understand certain viewpoints
	and the consistency that I envisioned, that I noticed from him, was he doesn't like money
	going directly to any other foreign country, but he's fine with all kinds of money, all
	kinds of slush funds going to various things that are kind of domestically liberal, which
	made him kind of intriguing, like is this kind of an almost hardcore libertarian, no
	foreign aid for anybody kind of thing, up against a domestic, socially liberal viewpoint
	that the COVID slush fund was fine and Obama phones were fine.
	I don't know.
	Esther, thank you.
	I appreciate it a lot.
	As we wrap up the hour, the conservatism and fiscal restraint in me, Everyone wants to take a really hard eye at all foreign aid and make sure that every dime of aid that we give to other lands is well spent and serves a vital American interest.
	I believe spending on Israel does.
	I believe spending on Ukraine had the chance to there for a little bit, but now that it's clear that there is zero chance.
	of Ukraine actually ousting Russia from its soil, these additional billions of dollars become a rat hole that will lead, I believe if Kamala wins, our sons and daughters will be sent off to die in Ukraine.
	I think they view, and if Nikki Haley were the nominee and she won, same thing, that our sons and daughters would be sent off to die in Ukraine.
	That money is not a direct and vital American strategic interest.
	So, I guess there's a list I would make of countries where I'd say yes and countries where I'd say no.
	Everybody's lists will differ.
	Various presidential lists will differ.
	The last gentleman, his list is a pretty easy one.
	Nothing for anybody.
	And whatever ill effect that may have, that's life.
	Okay.
	Well, here's a little bit of life.
	Let's cruise out of this hour and talk to some more of you in the next.
	833-33-GORKA.
	Talk about life, talk about the election, talk about politics, talk about the culture, anything you want.
	Mark Davis, I'm here for Dr. G on America First.
	We're going to be back in a minute.
	We'll be right back.
	All right.
	of Dallas Mark Davis.
	Thank you, Dr. G. Mark Davis in for you, and glad to be.
	Bob Frantz in tomorrow from Cleveland, and we're back together on Monday, and then Dr. Gorka is back on Tuesday for the VP Debate Day.
	That was some hauling oats, and let me tell you, I can't go for that is what I hope voters say on November 5th to this whole Kamala agenda.
	In this hour, we're going to talk to the great Joel Pollock, who has a lot to say about Israel things, which we brought up so far on today's show, and a number of things to say about a number of things.
	He's just a great writer and a great guest.
	He'll be along.
	But right now you guys are here at 833-33-GORKA, 833-33-46-752, as we've talked about what
	lies ahead 40 days hence, talked a little bit about foreign aid, who we give money to
	and whom we do not, various other things in the news.
	Eric Adams getting indicted in New York.
	Is it possible that he was thrown under the bus in an admitted blue state because he had
	that rare Democrat courage to speak some unpleasant truths about the effects of waves of illegal
	immigration? Hmm, that's a theory making the rounds.
	What do you think?
	Asking your thoughts on a number of things at 833-33-GORKA, 833-334-6752, where in Ohio we find Vivian.
	Welcome, ma'am.
	Mark Davison for Dr. G. Good Thursday to you.
	Hi, good afternoon.
	Thank you for taking my call.
	I appreciate it.
	My pleasure.
	I wanted to support what you were saying, but just clarify something that I was concerned about.
	The person who called earlier, who did not want to give a cent to Israel, that whole... Or anybody else, he said.
	Right.
	So I wanted to just clarify, first of all, you asked him a couple of times, do you mean you would not give to anybody else?
	He wouldn't answer the question.
	Yeah, that was tricky.
	He drew it back to, how much do we give to Israel?
	Is there anybody else?
	Yeah, it seemed obsessive.
	It was more clear that he wouldn't give to anyone else.
	That was one.
	The other thing was that he asked if, how much, you know, do we give them more than anybody else?
	And I know that America does, so I quickly Googled it.
	And we give four times as much to Ukraine.
	And then there's a long list of Arab countries and Eastern European countries
	absolutely over a billion dollars to in aid as well.
	So it's not only Israel.
	And we throw we throw a lot of money around and hopefully much of it to good
	ends. But those paying particular harsh attention to Israeli aid makes a little bit of a red
	flag.
	I can't read minds or reach for the phone lines and know what anybody's motivation is.
	All I can do is ask people stuff.
	The answers are curious, and I had the same head-scratching moment you did.
	Vivian, thank you, appreciate it a lot.
	And maybe the best counterpoint is if someone comes in with some hot opinions about foreign aid, ask them about Israel, ask them about Ukraine.
	My answers would be Israel, absolutely yes, and Ukraine, not anymore.
	I was absolutely fine with just flooding the zone with all kinds of Ukrainian support in the hope that America, plus the other countries in Europe, because hey, it's a European problem, hello, that maybe we would land the half-court shot and have Putin think better of the Ukrainian invasion.
	That's no longer going to happen.
	As such, waves upon waves of aid to Ukraine are no longer a sustainable idea.
	How sustainable is the Eric Adams mayorship?
	Let me let you hear something here that is kind of interesting.
	It's been offered up, and again, if there's anything I'll tell you 37 times, it's that mind reading is impossible.
	It's curious to examine the degree to which some Democrats are willing to—it's like Fetterman on Israel has a boldness that runs directly counter to what his party says.
	Eric Adams on immigration had some boldness, and what you're about to hear here, that runs directly counter to what his party says.
	So here's Eric Adams with some thoughts about what the effects of waves of migrants are going to have on his city, New York City, and a lot of people think these words are what made him expendable to the Democrat power brokers.
	Never in my life have I had a problem that I did not see and ended to.
	I don't see an ending to this.
	I don't see an ending to this.
	This issue will destroy New York City.
	Destroy New York City.
	We're getting 10,000 migrants a month.
	One time we were just in Venezuela.
	Now we're in Ecuador.
	Now we're getting Russian speaking coming through Mexico.
	Now we're getting Western Africa.
	Now we're getting people from all over the globe have made their minds up that they're going to come through the southern part of the border and come into New York City.
	And everyone is saying it's New York City's problem.
	Every community in this city is going to be impacted.
	We have a $12 billion deficit that we're going to have to cut.
	Every service in this city is going to be impacted.
	All of us.
	There you are.
	Actual truths from a Democrat mayor.
	Well, he's still a Democrat.
	He may not be mayor for long.
	Now, if there were indeed genuine transgressions and genuine illegal campaign contributions from the Turks or anybody else, then here's a guy who deserves to go down.
	Irrespective of party, I believe.
	Looking at evidence, looking at the facts, looking at the law, giving people benefit of the doubt, giving them the presumption of innocence that our system gives.
	But obviously, presumption of innocence, that's what the system has to do.
	You and I don't.
	If this guy looks guilty as all get out, we get to say so.
	If somebody else looks like they're being railroaded, we get to say so.
	And everything in between.
	But if Eric Adams is going to talk about the borders, let me hop back onto the Kamala list.
	This one has cut three guys in this disastrous sit down with Stephanie Rule.
	So, uh, she gets opportunities every few days to say something coherent.
	And I'm just, doggone it, this is why I think another debate would be a really good idea.
	I get it.
	I've been beaten into submission about that only so much.
	But imagine this on a debate stage here in Cut Three as Kamala attempts to explain her border logic.
	What would a Harris administration do for those communities who've taken in many, many legal immigrants but are at capacity?
	Well, first of all...
	We do have a broken immigration system.
	And it needs to be fixed.
	And if we take a step back, months ago, some of the most conservative members of the United States Congress came together with others, proposed a border security bill.
	That would have put 1,500 new border agents on the border to help those hard-working border agents who are there right now, working around the clock.
	Would have put more money into stemming the flow of fentanyl, which is killing Americans around our country and devastating communities would have put more resources into our ability to prosecute transnational criminal organizations, which in my career I've prosecuted.
	Donald Trump got word of the bill, realized it was going to fix a problem he wanted to run on and told him to kill the bill, don't put it up for a vote.
	He killed a bill that would have actually been a solution because he wants to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem.
	And that's part of what needs to be addressed.
	And my pledge is that when elected president, If the American people will have me, I will bring that bill back and I will sign it into law.
	And we need a comprehensive plan that includes what we need to do to fortify not only our border, but deal with the fact that we also need to create pathways for people to earn citizenship.
	Are you sure you don't want another debate?
	Are you sure?
	Because just making notes while the Vice President was talking, our immigration system is broken.
	No it's not.
	We have laws.
	They're fine.
	They're just not being followed.
	That bill That she just loved that for some reason, Oklahoma, your Senator James Lankford tried to sell us like a pig in a poke.
	It was a terrible bill.
	It would not solve the problem.
	Its thresholds were ridiculously high for how many illegals would have to pour over and how many amnesty requests we'd have to field before the border shutdown would be triggered.
	It was a terrible bill.
	And that's why Trump opposed it.
	That's why I opposed it.
	That's why most conservatives opposed it.
	Oh, it would provide so many more agents, as I've said already.
	More agents is not that great a thing if all the agents are doing is waving people through
	with cell phones and bags of cash and a bus ticket to, you know, Columbia, Missouri or
	wherever they're going so they can vanish into the American interior, never to be seen
	or heard from again.
	And look, I think we're all anti-Fentanyl.
	I believe that's something I can boldly proclaim.
	I don't think I'll take any calls.
	I don't think I'll hear from any politicians who are, hey, we're pro-Fentanyl.
	But this is the safe refuge for the soft-on-borders Democrat.
	Or the soft-on-borders Republican, because we got some of those, too.
	Of course fentanyl is bad.
	Of course transnational gangs are bad.
	Of course MS-13 is bad.
	Of course trafficking is bad.
	But here's the thing.
	She can talk about all these things and tell us how ardently she has prosecuted all of them.
	Well, business has been booming, ma'am, hasn't it?
	Business has been booming because the fentanyl, the tracking, the transnational gangs, they're all thriving.
	They all exist in large numbers because of your policies that have opened up the border.
	Now, look, I didn't even break a sweat saying that.
	Don't you think Trump could have replied that way?
	Now, listen, if it's not going to be on a debate stage, maybe in a news conference, maybe in a media appearance, because unlike her, he actually makes media appearances.
	Mark Davidson for Dr. G, be right back.
	Thanks for tuning in.
	Welcome to the GEDxResearch Session.
	This is a presentation on the GEDxResearch Session.
	Ah, but just not today.
	Or tomorrow when Bob France joins you from Cleveland.
	Or Monday when I'm back.
	But Dr. G is back on Tuesday for Vice Presidential Debate Day.
	That looms large.
	So does the election that is 40, count them 40, days away.
	If we are blessed with the Trump victory, he'll be inaugurated on January 20th.
	And maybe he would do well to read a little book that I know something about called The Agenda, what Trump should do in his first hundred days.
	Because the last time I talked to this gentleman in this venue, we talked about that book.
	It's Joel Pollack here from Breitbart.
	Joel, welcome back.
	How you doing, sir?
	Congrats on the book.
	Thank you very much.
	Doing fine, thanks.
	I want to get to some of those things there.
	But first, the book contains wisdom about foreign policy, specifically Middle East.
	The timing here is really great because there's so much going on in Israel.
	I think last time we spoke, Hamas was the theater in question.
	Now it's Hezbollah news today that the Biden administration is actually going to be holding a short leash on valuable intelligence that Israel could actually use.
	In its battle against Hezbollah, as we continue these insane calls for a ceasefire, which essentially means, hey Israel, stop all this winning.
	Where do you think we are, and where even is this relationship right now with a country that we're supposed to be an ally toward?
	Nobody is running the White House right now.
	Biden is basically gone.
	Harris is out campaigning, and the officials who are left behind managing U.S.
	foreign policy don't know anything and are pushing different agendas.
	But just to rewind a little bit, Israel left Lebanon in 2000 after occupying the southern portion of Lebanon for 18 years in self-defense, it must be added, because Palestinian guerrillas had set up shop there and were firing rockets at the communities of northern Israel, which led to a war in 1982.
	So Israel invaded in 1982, got rid of the Palestinian guerrillas, and occupied a small security zone north of the border Then Hezbollah started up and was getting some support from Iran.
	They would kill Israeli soldiers now and then.
	The Israeli public tired of being there and so the Israelis withdrew and left in 2000.
	And the UN certified the border.
	Israel was behind its border and Lebanon was on the other side of the border.
	In 2006, Hezbollah kidnapped three Israeli soldiers and killed them launching the second Lebanon war.
	Israel was not really prepared for that.
	It did not have the Iron Dome at the time.
	Hezbollah fired thousands of rockets at northern Israel, caused a lot of damage, caused some deaths.
	And Israel invaded Lebanon and fought Hezbollah, but the international community basically came down and said, no, you can't do this anymore.
	And so there was a ceasefire under the United Nations Security Council in a resolution numbered 1701, which required that Hezbollah withdraw from the border and that it be disarmed.
	Well, the United Nations never enforced that resolution, and so Hezbollah just set up camp along the southern border with Israel, quietly building up a stockpile of weapons with help from Iran.
	And on October 8th, the day after the Hamas terror attack, Hezbollah started firing at Israel without provocation, in solidarity with Hamas.
	The Israelis moved 100,000 troops to the northern part of Israel to prevent a possible Hezbollah invasion of Israel and meanwhile they fought Hamas in Gaza.
	All the attention was on Gaza for a year while Israel and Hezbollah traded blows across the northern border.
	Something like Two dozen or so Hezbollah rockets, drones, missiles coming across the border every day, Israel firing back at the point of fire, and sometimes taking out a senior Hezbollah official or two, but never really escalating beyond that.
	Then, it comes up on a year basically since October 7th, more than 60,000 Israelis have had to leave their homes in northern Israel, and Israel having basically wrapped up the war in Gaza, with the exception of freeing the hostages, Has decided, okay, now it's time to make sure that our citizens can go back to their homes.
	And all of these diplomatic efforts by the Biden administration and others have failed.
	Amos Hochstein, who is the Biden administration's special envoy to the region, tried to shuttle back and forth between Israel and Lebanon to try to get some kind of a deal, but Hezbollah doesn't want a deal.
	And so Israel said, OK, fine.
	And the pager attack happened where there were thousands of Hezbollah officials who were wounded, about a dozen or two dozen killed when their pagers exploded.
	Then the walkie-talkies exploded.
	Then Israel launched a targeted airstrike on one of Hezbollah's senior commanders.
	And the war essentially started.
	Now, they're not calling it a war because it's just a series of intense airstrikes.
	And Hezbollah is also trying to up the intensity.
	fired a missile at Tel Aviv earlier this week that was intercepted by Israel's David Sling
	missile defense system, which is an upgrade or really a different system than Iron Dome.
	It aims at medium-range missiles rather than short-range rockets.
	But that's where we are now.
	Israel is advancing its battle plan, preparing for a ground assault where they intend to push Hezbollah back from the border.
	You know, if you've been to the northern part of Israel and you've stood on the Lebanese border, you know that it's basically indefensible.
	It's an international boundary, but Lebanon has all the high ground.
	And there's no real natural geographic feature that creates a boundary.
	It's just a line on a map.
	So you can see why it's a temptation, if you hate Israel, I guess, to fire downward, down the mountain, onto Israeli communities below.
	The natural boundary, the nearest natural boundary, is the Litani River, which is several kilometers north of the mountain range that divides Lebanon and Israel right now.
	And that's where Hezbollah is supposed to retreat to under that UN Resolution 1701.
	Israel is probably going to try to push Hezbollah back on the ground, beyond the Litani River, and then its citizens can come home to their homes, their villages, both Jewish and Arab in northern Israel.
	That's the Israeli war effort.
	They've also taken out most of the Hezbollah's senior leadership in airstrikes and pager attacks and so forth.
	And Hassan Nasrallah is still in charge of Hezbollah, but basically is running out of people to give orders to because most of these commanders are being killed, including the drone commander killed on Thursday by an Israeli airstrike in Beirut.
	So that's where we are.
	The Biden administration has decided that a ceasefire would be a great idea.
	And that's for domestic political reasons because Joe Biden doesn't want to leave office without any foreign policy achievements.
	Kamala Harris also looking for some kind of foreign policy achievement that she can wave around as she closes her campaign over the final months.
	But it doesn't make any sense because Israel is winning and the resolution or the proposal that Biden put out with French President Emmanuel Macron and a bunch of other nations doesn't even mention Hezbollah.
	It mentions the governments of Israel and Lebanon.
	But Lebanon is basically a puppet state at this point.
	It's controlled by Hezbollah.
	Not that the Lebanese people want it that way, but Hezbollah basically controls Lebanon and has pulled Lebanon into this war.
	And in many ways, Israel is not just fighting for Israelis, it's also fighting for ordinary Lebanese people who want their country back.
	So I think the ceasefire idea is bad.
	It makes the Biden administration look weak.
	It's not going to be accepted by Hezbollah or Israel.
	But Israel has the upper hand here, strategically and militarily.
	Hezbollah is probably thinking, well, the Israelis didn't do so well on the ground in 2006.
	We have tunnels, we have advanced weapons now from Iran.
	We're going to make Israel pay a very heavy price for any ground invasion.
	It may be that Israel loses perhaps several hundred soldiers in a ground invasion, but the Israelis are no longer willing to simply sit there and be attacked whenever Hezbollah feels like it.
	So, I think this is heading toward a greater conflict and expansion of the war, and what remains to be seen is if Iran intervenes to save its terrorist proxy, or perhaps Russia could intervene because Russia now is also involved in supporting Iran and supporting some of these terror groups, at least indirectly.
	I do think the likeliest outcome is that Israel will push Hezbollah back and that you won't see Iran intervening unless there's some reason Iran doesn't fear a U.S.
	deterrent or an Israeli deterrent.
	And I think that Biden's weakness may invite an Iranian intervention.
	What a superb encapsulation of where we are.
	Let me take the break, come back, explore some other things on this and a couple of domestic issues as well with Joel Pollack, author of The Agenda, What Trump Should Do in the First Hundred Days, Gotta Win First.
	We'll ask how that's going and a number of other things as well.
	Joel and I back in a moment.
	Mark Davis in for Dr. G. It's America First on a Thursday.
	Stick around.
	You You
	Welcome back to America First with Mark Davis.
	Thank you, Dr. G. Mark Davis in for Sebastian Gorka on America First on this Thursday, and join a little back and forth with Joel Pollack of Breitbart, author of The Agenda, What Trump Should Do in His First Hundred Days, talking a lot about the Middle East, but about a couple of other things domestically as well.
	But before we leave there, Joel, you invoke something.
	You said if you've ever been to that northern border where Israel meets Lebanon, and as it so happens I have.
	It was about 20 some years ago, the Jewish Community Relations Council of Dallas, the wonderful Marlene Gorin and some others, we got to go to Israel.
	We got to do shows from Jerusalem for a week and a half.
	And we at one point went up to a kibbutz up there called Mizgav Am, and it was a literal stone's throw from the fences and the yellow Hezbollah flags.
	And I just want to tell you, you're precisely correct.
	We stood there.
	The gentleman who was there, he had come from Brooklyn.
	To live in that kibbutz, I said, with Hezbollah hundreds of yards away, he said, why would you move here from Brooklyn?
	He said, Brooklyn's too dangerous.
	And so, in that good humor of that moment, and yet the clarity of the proximity of Hezbollah, let me ask you one more Israel question, and then we'll go to some other things.
	Are we looking at, if they're going to push Hezbollah forces north to that river, are we looking at another Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon, and how long will that be sustainable?
	I don't think so, although it is possible and it may be the only solution that works.
	But I do think that Israel is going to push Hezbollah back and then ask for some kind of much stronger UN force.
	There is a UN force there that does nothing.
	But there will have to be some kind of serious military force between the Litani River and the northern border of Israel.
	Again, I don't think Israel wants to occupy that area.
	Now, in one version of events, Israel could actually try to annex that area, make it part of Israel, and use the Litani River as the new northern boundary of Israel.
	I don't think the world would accept that.
	But it might be a long-term solution to this problem But I don't see that happening in the short term at least not in the next couple of months that may change if a Trump administration comes into office because Remember it was Trump that recognized Israeli sovereignty in the Golan Heights The Golan Heights was annexed by Israel after it was taken in the 1967 six-day war from Syria Syria used the Golan Heights in much the same way that Hezbollah uses its higher mountains and that is It used it to shell the Israeli communities of the Galilee.
	So taking the heights above Israel on the northern border might make sense, and then
	seeing if a Trump administration would recognize Israeli sovereignty in that thin strip.
	There are many thousands of Lebanese natives who left Lebanon after Israel withdrew in
	2000 who would certainly like to go back to their villages and would be happier living
	under Israeli sovereignty than under Lebanese sovereignty, at least as far as Lebanese sovereignty
	is right now, where Hezbollah dominates the Lebanese government.
	But I think long term, the only solution to this problem is to stop Iran from arming and funding Hezbollah and other terrorist armies in the region, whether it's the Houthis in Yemen or the militias in Iraq that have also attacked American troops.
	And you can only do that with sanctions and to some extent with a military deterrent.
	Right now, Iran does not fear Joe Biden because it has seen, as in this case, every time there's a conflict, Joe Biden wants a ceasefire.
	Joe Biden wants diplomacy.
	The White House said this week that diplomacy is superior to everything else.
	Well, that's true in the sense that it doesn't involve killing people in the short term, but it's not true in the long term if it doesn't work.
	You have to win the war.
	You ultimately have to win the war.
	And the prospect of a Trump presidency improving things hangs out there on the long horizon.
	I know the election is only 40 days away, but we still will have, even if he wins, four more fetid months of a Biden-Harris administration.
	How much will Israel be rocked by our continuing treachery, pardon me, in that span of time?
	Well, I don't think that Israel is going to allow the mistakes of the Biden-Harris administration to affect it.
	And remember, there's something interesting happening right now that also happened under Obama in 2014.
	In 2014, Hamas attacked Israel and it didn't cause the same kind of damage it caused last October, but it was a very serious conflict.
	It was the first time the Iron Dome was used in a very significant way.
	And the White House tried to stop rearmaments from going to Israel in much the same way that Biden tried to stop munitions of certain kinds from going to Israel.
	What happened was the Pentagon kept sending the weapons.
	And that's because the Pentagon has a very close relationship with the Israeli defense establishment.
	Now, you and I may criticize the deep state, quote-unquote, and certainly they have not been good for domestic politics in this country, but the fact is that there is a core of national security institutions that really has its own prerogatives, and you see that happening right now.
	Israel today, in fact, as I speak to you now on Thursday, had a meeting with the Pentagon and concluded an agreement For I think it was $8.7 billion in military aid.
	Now that was already appropriated by Congress, but that's going on even as Biden is doing all this ceasefire stuff.
	So I think Israel will be okay.
	Lots of moving parts.
	Lots of moving parts.
	Joel, thank you so much and congrats on the agenda.
	What Trump should do in his first hundred days.
	Great book.
	Get it on Amazon or wherever fine books are sold.
	Mark Davison for Dr. Gorka.
	America First continues in just a moment.
	It is the Thursday, September 26th edition of America First with Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Mark Davison for Dr. G today and Monday.
	The great Bob France joins you from Cleveland's talk show Salt Mines tomorrow.
	He's great.
	You'll enjoy that.
	And we're enjoying your company at 833-33 Gorka.
	Let's go to line one.
	We're in Tampa, Edward.
	Mark Davison for Dr. G. How are you doing, sir?
	Yeah, Mark.
	Thank you for taking my call.
	You know, with this indictment with Mayor Adam Saltoni, I think Mr. Trump should definitely make an extra push to get New York Because that puts extra pressure on the Democrats trying to get more states than they really want to.
	Yes.
	So I think in the screening process, did you suggest that Trump ought to come out and deliver a little bit of support to Mayor Eric Adams, at least, if not against the actual content of the indictment, but at least giving him some grudging appreciation for speaking truth about immigration?
	Oh yeah, definitely.
	Yeah.
	Speaking of that, like in Chicago, because I'm from Chicago formerly, they're passing illegals in school.
	They're promoting them to the next grade.
	They don't even speak English.
	There you go.
	Just how... Don't even get me started.
	Or you can get me started.
	Edward, thank you.
	Appreciate it very, very much.
	That would seem like a particularly Trumpian thing to do, wouldn't it?
	To reach across party lines again and go to Eric Adams, who is decidedly not a Trump fan, but who clearly shares some Venn diagram overlap there.
	There's some things you can find both guys saying.
	The ill effects of waves of illegals on the city of New York.
	That's a point Trump would make.
	It's a point that Eric Adams has made.
	We played the audio in the video for you.
	I mean, it's tricky because Trump right now doesn't even want to say the words Mark Robinson in North Carolina because we have no idea what he did or didn't do.
	Can I give you 60 seconds on wisdom about Mark Robinson, whom I have loved ever since his ascendancy in that, what was it, a Greensboro, North Carolina City Council meeting where he showed up as a proud black man talking about the Second Amendment and how black folks in particular ought to be really valuing their gun rights in today's America.
	And that was what kind of launched his ascendancy.
	And then turn your head and boom, he's lieutenant governor.
	And now he wants to be actual governor, which I've generally thought would be a good idea.
	I still do.
	I mean, I'd rather have him than the, I guess it's the Democrat attorney general of North Carolina that's running against him.
	So, but we got to get this kind of worked out and cleared up.
	This seems to be a question with an answer.
	He is suing CNN.
	For what he says is an inaccurate smear, okay, it either is or is not true that he was lollygagging around in porn sites saying all kinds of incendiary things.
	Just own it and say, wow, my bad, that was terrible.
	That's not me anymore.
	If there are some things that are false, steadfastly say they're false.
	But to the extent that anything in there is true, I think we're a country that is very forgiving.
	Which is good.
	We are a country that believes in stories of atonement, stories of redemption, which is good.
	So if he can be one of those stories, then great.
	Maybe we can actually have him still win.
	The question arises, is this Harmful to Trump.
	I don't think that it should be.
	People talk about reverse coattails, where people are so repelled by something in the Mark Robinson story that they all of a sudden want Kamala Harris to be president.
	I don't think so.
	I don't think that's going to happen with the conservatives, who I still believe are in a slim majority in the Tar Heel state.
	Alright, let's go to a state where Republicans are decidedly not in the majority, but we're working on that.
	We're in California, line 2, Kevin Mark Davis.
	Hi, welcome.
	And for Dr. Gene, good to have you.
	Hello.
	Hi, welcome.
	Hi.
	Hey, I would just like to make a point.
	This electoral system, this electoral college, it's not, it doesn't work anymore.
	Of course it does.
	Why does it happen?
	Well, because you have a small minority.
	44,000 people in the last Trump election, deciding the fate of the rest of America, even though there was a 7 million point difference in votes.
	I know, but that's the popular vote.
	Let me give you 30 seconds and then tell me why you either don't like or don't recognize the way the country works.
	When the founders set this up, they recognized that the President of the United States was never supposed to be our one-man, one-vote, direct representative.
	That's what the House of Representatives was for.
	The President was a CEO of this federation of states.
	Well, because exactly what you just said.
	of the 50 states to win each of the 50 states. It was not not like other countries. It was
	something we did that was different. That's what we do. We don't have a the popular vote
	is not what determines it. That's just the way that it is.
	And I'm pleased with that.
	Why why are you not?
	Well, because exactly what you just said, the president is supposed to campaign and
	win the vote in 50 states. These candidates are not winning the vote.
	Every president we've had has done that. If you win the Electoral College, you won the
	fit. You won the majority of the votes apportioned to you by those 50 states. That's how the
	system works.
	But they're campaigning in seven states.
	Okay, I get it.
	Fair point.
	And I do hear this.
	My state of Texas, your state of California, right?
	Ain't nobody gonna be in either place.
	Kamala knows she won your state.
	Trump knows he won mine.
	But okay, that's the system.
	I mean, do you need a visit by either of them to change that?
	Do I need a visit by either of them?
	Those are the states that are close.
	In some elections, we may have 20 states that are razor thin.
	In others, we may not.
	I don't think I'd go change in the system just because there are only about seven states that are really razor thin.
	That's just what the marketplace yields right now, and I'm okay with it.
	I'm not, because the value of my vote should equal the value of anybody in Pennsylvania's vote.
	If I want to vote for Trump, I should have my vote.
	I understand.
	We vote at district, and it's not fair.
	People in North Dakota... But it's completely fair.
	It's not the system that you want, and I understand that.
	It's completely fair.
	Both of these people are running to win California.
	Kamala will win California.
	They're both running to win my state of Texas.
	Trump will win Texas.
	We don't know Michigan yet.
	We don't know Arizona yet.
	We don't know Pennsylvania yet.
	Your points, I understand your points.
	There are people who just want to wish we were like other countries and just do straight
	popular vote.
	I'm glad that we don't for various reasons.
	And Kevin, I appreciate you.
	I truly do.
	And again, this does involve some understanding of history.
	The founders said that we're not like a monolithic country.
	We have states for a reason.
	We're not just a country called America.
	We are the United States of America, with 50 states that are their own little laboratories, run in their own specific ways.
	And our president is going to be running to win all of those states, however many we have.
	We started with 13, and now we have 50.
	I'm good with 50.
	I don't need any more.
	Thank you very much.
	So, that's the way the system works.
	The president was never intended to be your one-person, one-vote direct representative.
	It was never the intent.
	It was never the idea of the founders, and it's not how it works now.
	All right, a couple of final moments left.
	How shall we spend them?
	Mark Davison for Dr. Gorka on America First.
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	Mark Davis has been here with you today.
	It has been a joy.
	Great to hang out with Jeff and Eric and Guy and Alex, always making every day a pleasure.
	And they get to do it again on Monday, because I'm back on Monday, and they're going to do their glorious job with Bob France of Cleveland Radio Fame, answer fame at the Cleveland answer station here on the Salem Radio Network and Salem News Channel.
	And Bob will be with you tomorrow and wrap up the week.
	So as we wrap up this day, though, here and on Monday, we're going to do definitely anticipation will be running hot for the vice presidential debate, which is on CBS and will be moderated by Nora O'Donnell and Margaret Brennan.
	OK, how are they going to do?
	Will they be on best behavior or will they display traits like we see in this little clip of them at work?
	A new line of false attack on Vice President Harris.
	Kamala Wentz, full communist.
	Will tell you why that's wrong.
	You write, it is time to take a stand against Trump.
	If he is dangerous to democracy, as you say, should he be removed from office?
	There are so many legal issues in this campaign.
	And I want to ask you about one involving the president's son, Hunter Biden, who's going to appear in court this week.
	And I wonder, after this plea happens, if you would advise your party to move on.
	The president of the United States castrating the facts of the election, disenfranchising millions of voters whose ballots have not been counted.
	Sadly, because of the raging pandemic and the failures of the administration.
	This is Uncle Joe, you know, regular Joe from Scranton, Pennsylvania and the Rust Belt states.
	And he's really talking about that the core values of this nation are at stake.
	I mean, he comes with a wealth of background and to take him on and essentially what are issues of character.
	He is recovering from these injuries now.
	This was a traumatic event, no doubt for him.
	But I did notice there was no call for lowering the temperature.
	Condemning all political violence.
	Does Donald Trump bear some responsibility for that?
	Does he need to change his rhetoric?
	Not feeling good about that debate Tuesday night, if you just... Now again, that's the ladies in the trenches.
	Margaret Brennan, longtime Face the Nation host, and Norah O'Donnell, a longtime CBS anchor.
	They hate him.
	They hate him.
	Of course, so did Jake Tapper and Dana Bash, and they did pretty well on the Trump-Biden debate, didn't they?
	Didn't they?
	Yeah, but that was very, very different.
	In the Trump-Biden debate, they were glad to be part of the process that led to the shelving of Biden so that somebody, anybody, could be brought into the fray.
	Once it was Trump and Kamala, you saw how the dominant media culture operates.
	You saw what ABC did there with David Muir and Lindsay Davis in the worst moderated debate in debate history.
	So how will Nora and Margaret do on Tuesday night?
	All eyes will be on them.
	It'll be J.D.
	Vance and Tim Walls.
	We'll see.
	That's Tuesday night.
	You and I are together on Monday.
	As I said, Bob Franz with you tomorrow.
	Have a fantastic rest of your week and a great weekend.
	See you back on Monday.
	We'll talk about all the interesting things that happened over the weekend.
	Follow me on Twitter at Mark Davis.
	I'm A.R.K.
	Davis if you're of a mind to do so.
	And I'll see you next time on Monday right here on America First with Dr. Gorka.
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