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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Iran's plots to kill President Trump

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	So, we're going to go ahead and start our little experiment.
	So, let's go ahead and get started.
	Okay.
	Let's do this.
	My good friend, Chris Plant, greetings, dear friends, welcome to America First with me, Sebastian Gorka, has a saying.
	He has the morning show in D.C., a very good radio show, and then he has the nighttime show on Newsmax, modeled on The Five, and a very good show it is as well.
	And he says one of the greatest achievements of the left of recent decades ...is to guarantee that a decent Conservative would never run for public office.
	Why?
	Well, I can tell you from personal experience, having worked in the White House, that Solzhenitsyn's rules for radicals, about attacking those who politically disagree with you, isolating, triangulating and destroying, have been perfected.
	And if you're very good at what you do, especially if you're a good communicator for conservative values, you must be destroyed.
	I am hardened after my experience, as are the members of my family, but that doesn't mean that they don't continue to do it to those who they see as a political threat who they cannot defeat otherwise.
	Recent stories in the last few days, headlines across the mainstream legacy media, attacking somebody I like a lot, the Lieutenant Governor of North Carolina, Mark Robinson, saying that he's implicated in some pornographic website and that he said things about slavery that are not fit for a decent human being.
	And since I like this man and have supported him in the past, I want to give him a platform in front of three and a half million people to address those accusations.
	Mark Robinson, Lieutenant Governor, welcome back to America First!
	Hey, Dr. Gorka, it's good to be here again.
	It's been a while.
	It's been far too long.
	I know you're a busy man in that great state of North Carolina.
	You're running for the governorship, and that's probably why the left has to take you out.
	So let's play a little cut of what they're accusing you of, and then I will give you the opportunity to address absolutely live what they are saying about you.
	Play cut.
	Yeah, we're hearing from the state GOP and closely watching a looming deadline.
	Robinson has less than an hour to decide whether he stays in the race for governor amid political pressure from some to drop out.
	And first tonight, let's break down the allegations against Robinson that led to this point.
	So CNN was first to report that Robinson made comments on a porn site called Nude Africa prior to his getting into politics, I should say.
	Some of the comments were lewd and sexual in nature, and the report claims Robinson referred to himself as a, quote, black Nazi.
	Comments from the account that CNN linked to mention also, quote, slavery is not bad, and, quote, I would certainly buy a few.
	Those are Robinson's alleged words.
	Now these fit into a pattern of assaults against you, Mark.
	We've had cartoons representing you and your colleagues as members of the Ku Klux Klan in white hoods.
	They really don't like you at all.
	But I know you're a man of faith.
	You're a Christian.
	You have a little bit of the preacher and the pastor of you.
	You've given some fiery, fiery sermons in the past that we've played here on the show.
	So, if these accusations are true, then, you know, you're a fallen man like every one of us, and you can say that they're true right now, and we move on.
	If they're not, then it's another instance of what the left does.
	So, first, Mark, is any of this stuff based in fact?
	Well, first off, let me say, first and foremost, absolutely not.
	And when it was brought to my attention, I was absolutely flabbergasted and confused.
	You know, there are a lot of things that they can say about words that I've spoken and written.
	And we've had to deal with that since we became lieutenant governor.
	Actually, since we came on the scene back in 2018.
	But to have something attributed to me that I did not write, that I did not craft, and I did not post, it was something that was very, very confusing to me, had me in a place where I just absolutely was just, again, confused, didn't understand how this could happen.
	It's like that old identity theft thing.
	You just don't understand how it can happen.
	But once we pulled it together and started to assess things, we immediately realized Where it was coming from, the source, of course, CNN, the same news station, in quotation marks, that was responsible for reporting Russia, Russia, Russia, while not reporting the Hunter Biden's laptop.
	We, of course, we knew it was fake because we didn't do it first off.
	And we knew we were dealing with very nefarious people.
	So we took a step back, we assessed what we needed to do, and we moved forward.
	We now have attained a national-level attorney who is going to adjudicate this case, is going
	to investigate this case, get to the bottom of it, find out who did it, and we're going
	to hold them responsible.
	And while they're doing that, Sebastian, we are going to do exactly what these folks don't
	want us to do.
	They don't want us to continue to campaign.
	They want us to put our campaign on hold to fight CNN.
	We're not putting our campaign on hold to fight CNN.
	We've hired a great attorney to be able to do that.
	We're going to keep campaigning, and we're going to keep fighting Josh Stein, because
	like CNN, he's a liar also.
	So I'm glad to hear that.
	Of course, CNN is not a news agency and I hope you sue them into the ground like, oh, what was it that young boy who did when they accused him of being a racist with that Native American outside one of our monuments here in America.
	So, good luck to you.
	I hope you win.
	I hope you win the campaign.
	However, it has been reported that the Trump campaign is distancing themselves from you.
	The president has been on this show with regularity.
	We know his team watches it.
	What message would you have to the broader MAGA movement and to the Trump campaign right now, given the situation you find yourself in, Lieutenant Governor?
	Yeah, that is absolutely not false.
	If anything, you know, we've got a lot of fire coming our way.
	And I personally, as a candidate, have always said that I never want to draw fire to any other candidate and put them in a position that's going to make it harder for them to win.
	I certainly don't want to do that with the president.
	And so we have backed away from the president to give him his space to run his race, while we have space to run our race.
	Do not want to draw fire on him.
	Trust me, you know as well as I do, he's got enough fire to handle on his own.
	So we have chosen To pull ourselves back from President Trump.
	We've spoken to him, had great conversations with him, but we have chosen to do that because we want to make sure that he wins this state.
	How is your family doing after all this?
	My family is strong, and that's one of the things that I'm very dismayed about as well.
	This transcends that.
	When I first started in this, Sebastian, they were simply attacking me.
	But then it moved from an attack on me to an attack on my wife.
	And now it's moved from an attack on my wife to an attack on my entire family, it seems like.
	And that, to me, is very distressing, and I take that very personally.
	That's why we've taken the steps that we've taken to fight back against CNN, and that's why we refuse to give up in this race, because we are fighting for a bigger cause here.
	We're fighting for the cause of North Carolina, and quite frankly, we're fighting for the cause of freedom in this country.
	So much of what we see the news media doing right now is It's shades of Soviet Russia.
	It's the show trials.
	It's the propaganda.
	It's Pravda.
	They have become an arm of the leftist Democratic Party, and we have to fight back if we intend to change those things.
	We only have 30 seconds left.
	What is your message to CNN and Politico and everybody else that are launching these attacks against you based upon something they allege happened 14 years ago?
	What do you say to them, Mark?
	What I say to them is this, they are doing this to take their eyes off the real issue, and the real issue are the issues.
	Our open border, our rising inflation, and all the things that matter to people.
	Our economy, our education system.
	That's what matters to the people.
	If they want that to change here in North Carolina, I suggest that they go to MarkRobinson4NC.com and give to my campaign so that we can win this state and turn this state completely red.
	I've seen it before so many, many times and they can't beat you in a fair fight.
	They go dirty and they go dark.
	Mark Robinson for NC.com is the website.
	Mark Robinson for NC.com and follow him at Mark Robinson NC.
	God bless you, Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson.
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	Now she wants to be president.
	We can't let it happen.
	And she's a Marxist.
	We're not ready for a Marxist president, and we never will be.
	You know, I'm biased, but I'm happy the president is just calling her out for what she's a Marxist.
	And it's true.
	It's absolutely true.
	Jimmy Carter must be happy now.
	Yesterday at the UN, Biden was quoting a British poet about how the world's just chaotic.
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	All right, first guest in studio today is a lady I've come to know as a thoughtful journalist who now has decided to reveal another side of herself.
	It's her autobiography.
	It's called Motor Home Prophecies, A Journey of Healing and Forgiveness.
	And we're delighted to have from the Daily Signal and the Independent Women's Forum, Carrie Sheffield in studio.
	Carrie, welcome.
	Seb, thank you so much for having me.
	So this is something I didn't expect from you.
	It's a harrowing story.
	It's a tough story.
	Tell us why, given all the other things you do journalistically, why you had to write this book and write it now.
	Yes, so I wrote it for two main reasons.
	One, it's a spiritual memoir of how I went from extreme religious, abusive religious trauma, to agnosticism, to denying the existence of God because of my response to that trauma, to then finding what I describe as healthy faith and my baptism into the Christian tradition and the Protestant tradition, and that journey.
	And how and why, because I wanted to share that testimony for people who might also be doubting.
	I also wrote it because our country right now is dealing with a mental health tsunami, a mental illness tsunami, I should say.
	We have the highest suicide rate since the Great Depression.
	We had, last year, 50,000 people commit suicide, which is 17 times the number of people murdered in 9-11.
	And that's just happening in one year.
	And when you look at Gen Z, it is the most depressed, suicidal, young generation we've ever experienced.
	And when I delved into the science, because we're all about trusting science, right?
	There's an undeniably strong relationship between God, religious practice, faith practice, religious community, and strong mental health.
	And what I experienced in the motorhome was an outlier.
	And I had, like many in the media, had associated religion with abuse and something
	to be thrown away with, sort of the old chattels of sociological constructs.
	And that's why I called myself a secular conservative for 12 years.
	And through some very unexpected experiences which I attribute to God and just my observations and studying actually the science of metaphysics and probabilities and astrophysics and how unlikely our universe is, I came around.
	Basically, my argument is if you believe God doesn't exist and you understand science, you're a cretin, right?
	I mean, without the unmoved mover, there is nothing and that is another name for God.
	All right, so let's talk about your experience in that motorhome and what was that abusive religious context.
	So what did you grow up in, Carrie?
	Yeah, so the title is Motorhome Prophecies because my father, he's 86 now and he has severe Alzheimer's, so he's not very active.
	But growing up, he forced myself and my seven biological siblings to live in this motorhome.
	We had several different motorhomes over the years.
	We also lived in sheds and tents.
	My mother gave birth to my brother in a tent.
	And in the end, I went to 17 public schools and homeschool.
	And it was all done under the mantle of my dad claiming to be a Mormon cult leader.
	He was eventually excommunicated from the official Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
	I know we were just at an event with Glenn Beck, which I loved.
	I loved his message of, if we're all believers in God, we need to work together.
	So I'm not here to cast aspersions on the LDS community.
	In fact, lots of my family members and friends are still LDS.
	But my father's interpretation was very twisted and extreme and abusive.
	And part of it was because he had been sexually molested by a Mormon babysitter and had passed that trauma on to us in terms of just perpetuating intergenerational sin.
	And so the book is about intergenerational sin as well and intergenerational trauma and mental illness.
	Eventually two of my brothers developed schizophrenia.
	One of them groped me and tried to rape me.
	And eventually I told my father I don't believe you're a prophet.
	If you are, you're a false prophet.
	How old were you when you said that to your father?
	I was 18, and I said, I want to go away to college.
	I have four older brothers, and I was the first to leave, the first girl and the first to leave.
	And he raised his hand like making an oath, and he said, I prophesy in the name of Jesus you'll be raped and murdered if you leave.
	Your father said that.
	Your father said that.
	My father put a curse on me and I had to make that choice.
	Do I stay living in a motorhome with my very large, almost twice my weight, schizophrenic
	brother who wants to rape me or go to college?
	And I made that choice and I did go to college.
	With zero support I imagine.
	I had no support from them.
	My father said my blood changed.
	I was no longer his daughter.
	I did eventually get some support from aunts and uncles.
	And I wrestled with my aunts and uncles, you know, in terms of, why didn't you guys do anything?
	And I think their solution was to give my father money.
	And what he did with the money was he would take the money and he would buy Billboards and newspaper ads in USA Today sometimes he'd spend like $60,000 to run his political essays instead of feeding us and so we Described in the book at one point we were eating grass from the town park because we had no money because he was spending it on his political obsessions and vanities and Yeah, so that was their solution, but it's like giving money to the Iranian regime if they're not going to be using it for the people
	We've only just begun to discuss the new autobiography of our guest in studio, Carrie Sheffield, Motorhome Prophecies.
	Next up, how did she break out of that?
	And then how did she find God after 16 years in the wilderness?
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	I'm going to have fun with that with Jen.
	I'm going to have fun.
	I'm going to go get my coffee.
	protectors. Yeah. He would protect us. Yeah. And I get extremely upset when I hear
	him speaking this way just because I don't want myself or my daughters
	protected by a convicted felon who was found liable of sexual abuse in a case
	that the judge actually said it was tantamount to rape liable for defaming a
	woman bragged out loud that he likes to grab women by their genitals and that
	they like it. Yeah. What kind of production is that if you play that as a
	B-roll? All you see is the back of the guest's head for half of that. What it's
	That is just like a high school TV.
	Yeah, that's... That's weird, isn't it?
	Especially when it's a well-known guest, like a cabinet secretary.
	Okay, come in with that, then I'll do my pillow, then we'll go back to Carrie.
	Come in with two, then pillow, then Carrie.
	Two and a half minutes.
	What is Raimundo's... She was Rhode Island Governor and now I'm pretty sure she's Commerce Secretary.
	Commerce Secretary, you're right.
	Yeah, Rhode Island for six years.
	Wow.
	She did some good things in Rhode Island and now she's gone crazy.
	She did like pension reform.
	I see a title for Robinson as well and also for taxes.
	For Metaxas... Where are all the brave Christians?
	And then for Robinson... What did you think of Robinson?
	I got nothing from that.
	I couldn't tell whether he was lying, I couldn't tell anything.
	He denied it pretty, like... He did, unoccusiously.
	Yeah, which...
	I get the sense he's very angry and he's trying to contain it.
	More so at the allegations and now, like Jeff said, he's kind of cut off and people have quit his campaign.
	Righteously angry, I think so.
	I think it was good.
	I think he kind of... Alright, give me a good title then.
	Oh, and can you make a buffer out of the tweet you printed for me about the two actors?
	Yeah, give me a bit.
	No hurry.
	We'll do that with Jen.
	Something like, you know, what they'll do to good people or something like that?
	With your prologue?
	No, no, no.
	Let's get his name in it.
	Mark Robinson's response to pornographic smear.
	Right?
	Yeah, that's good.
	Okay, good.
	Who was the publisher for the book?
	Hachette.
	Jonathan Brennanski's my agent.
	Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.
	I love your set.
	Thank you.
	I think it might be one of the best sets.
	I think it's a great set.
	I have to ask about Donald Trump, saying that he would be...
	Our protectors.
	He would protect us.
	And I get extremely upset when I hear him speaking this way just because I don't want myself or my daughters protected by a convicted felon who was found liable of sexual abuse in a case that the judge actually said it was tantamount to rape, liable for defaming a woman, bragged out loud that he likes to grab women by their genitals and that they like it.
	Well, he didn't brag out loud.
	He said it privately in a private conversation.
	I'm sure you say things behind closed doors.
	Mika Brzezinski that you wouldn't like to have broadcast across the planet.
	And our guest Carrie Sheffield made a good point.
	What did Mika leave out of that conversation of President Trump's proclivities?
	Well, no mention of her husband, Joe Scarborough, and whatever happened to his intern.
	You mean the very young intern who died in his congressional office?
	Yes.
	Weird that you don't have segments on that, Mika.
	So strange.
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	We're back with our in-studio guest, Carrie Sheffield, who writes for the Daily Signal and is associated with the
	Independent Women's Forum.
	But we're here to discuss her new book, Motor Home Prophecies, A Journey of Healing and Forgiveness.
	So, you escape from your fake LDS prophet father who curses you age 18 and then for the next decade plus What are you an atheist agnostic?
	How do you live your life?
	Well at that point I was still what I would call mainstream LDS and that was part of why I left was because I saw in he had written and it's called motor and prophecies because I'd found handwritten prophecies he'd written down and at that moment I had to make a stark choice because In the LDS tradition, there's only one prophet and he's like the Pope.
	He lives in Salt Lake City and his name has never been Ralph Sheffield.
	And so when I saw these handwritten prophecies, you know, I'd always thought my father just had a special spiritual call because my father claimed that he would be the U.S.
	President someday and heck, I wanted to help my dad fulfill that.
	But to see him write down prophecies in the same way that Joseph Smith, the founder of the LDS tradition, using the same Elizabethan English, the same format and style, that just cut me to the heart.
	And I said, you know, I'm choosing the LDS tradition over my father, not to mention I'm physically at risk with my brothers.
	And so I chose freedom, and at that point I was LDS.
	I eventually made my way to Brigham Young University, where I graduated.
	But it was while at BYU that I really had an existential crisis of my faith within the LDS tradition, and I decided to leave.
	I eventually worked my way to D.C., and it was here in D.C.
	in my early 20s that I decided that I don't believe in God, because if there is a God... I was never atheist.
	I was always agnostic.
	I thought about a fence-sitter.
	I took pride in what I thought was being humble because I just said, I don't know.
	I'm a shoulder shrugger.
	I can't say either way.
	But that's where I sat for about 12 years as an agnostic and called myself a secular conservative and wanted conservatism to be more secular or more tolerant of secular conservatives.
	And it was in that place that I, I mean, the whole book, you know, gives a more in-depth detail of my conversion, but a big part of it was science and studying the just astronomically small probabilities of Earth being at this velocity, at this temperature, without our heads exploding.
	Just one argument, the Goldilocks zone, if our planet were just slightly in a different orbit in relation to the Sun, Just slightly closer, or further away, we would have no liquid water, we would have no atmosphere.
	There would be no life!
	And the probabilities of all of what you described, you have to take it almost infinite zeros.
	It's like point, point, point, point, that it's random chance.
	And I describe that as the probability of a tornado going through a junkyard and randomly assorting a perfectly fine-tuned nuclear weapons system.
	Basically, you have to have more faith to be an atheist than a believer.
	But it's okay because the atheists, to get around this infinitesimal probability of life occurring on this one
	planet in this Goldilocks zone, say, Oh, that's okay. This is only one universe of a multiverse
	of universes where the Earth is in lots of different positions and we are just the one verse.
	It's like... It's insanity!
	It's insanity!
	The problem with that, also, is there is literally no evidence for multiverse.
	Of course!
	None!
	And number two, it violates Occam's Razor, which is the simplest explanation must be true.
	All other things being equal, you don't scratch your left ear with your right arm, okay?
	You do the left ear, left arm, all other options being equal, you do not use The most complicated theory to answer a problem, you use the simplest.
	We're talking to Carrie Sheffield.
	Follow her at Carrie Sheffield.
	The book is Motorhome Prophecies.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	Everything just made so much more sense with Marxism.
	It's like when you read Lenin, like Lenin literally said there is no objective truth.
	The only truth is what we define for the benefit of the proletariat.
	He hated his father, God, and everything else.
	No, and that's what I realized for me.
	I had my father wound and that's why I hated God.
	And once I got that out of the pic, I'm just like, wow, this makes so much more sense from a spiritual warfare standpoint.
	There's this great story, I can't stop Telling that Rich Mineta told me one day, so he was talking to Andrew Breitbart around Occupy Wall Street and all those lunatics camped out there at Wall Street.
	Oh yeah, I was working on Wall Street at the time.
	So, Andrew was sending out a team to like cover it and Rich Mineta said to Andrew, ask them one question.
	Go to every single one of those lunatics in those tents where they're raping them and everything else, ask them one question.
	What do you think about your father?
	Right?
	Right?
	I would love to see that tape.
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	So how did the conversion happen?
	Was there an individual involved?
	A priest or anything like that?
	Uh, yeah, it was several, several influences.
	I would say, I talk a lot in the book about Tim Keller.
	I love Tim Keller.
	Uh, sad he passed away.
	Um, his writings.
	Um, there's a book that was really influential for me called Counterfeit Gods.
	And it's about, uh, each chapter is a false god that we worship in the face of God.
	Interesting.
	And one of them is politics.
	And I realized that I had made politics my religion.
	Don't say that.
	Don't say that.
	I was basically like a leftist You know, millennial, but on the right, with making it my religion.
	And I went to the Harvard Kennedy School, which is named after JFK.
	I went there.
	Oh, yeah?
	Which program did you do?
	In 99.
	I was a fellow there.
	Oh, nice.
	Okay.
	I hated it.
	It was the worst thing out there.
	Well, it's only worse now.
	But I'm only mentioning Kennedy because I realized that I had subconsciously in some ways kind of put Politics as a messiah type figure with JFK or Abraham Lincoln where you're assassinated for your people and that was my religion basically.
	I'm going to tee up six very quickly after Patriot Mobile and then I'm going to go back to Carrie.
	Say that again.
	I had put subconsciously JFK as like a messiah type figure or like Abraham Lincoln you know who was shot on Good Friday which I learned very symbolic and that was my religion was that's how I found my ultimate purpose.
	Interesting.
	Alright, stand by.
	What is wrong with Kennedy?
	He's always so stiff.
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	In your latest book, Carrie, The Motorhome Prophecies, you touch upon the question of
	the really shocking mental health crisis in America today.
	And I'd like to illustrate it by... I can't believe they actually did this.
	This is Jimmy Kimmel's wife, Molly McKearney, who... He called on stage yesterday, during his show, And I think it's a perfect exemplar of the mental health crisis in America, cut six.
	The party you run so bigly and so beautifully, the party that cares so much about motherhood, just blocked a bill that would protect our access to IVF.
	Women are dying and good doctors are quitting because they can't get or give the reproductive care women desperately need.
	So my advice for you is to shut up and go away.
	That is a woman who has mental issues, okay?
	Help us understand the enormity of the situation outside of politics and, you know, people with Trump Derangement Syndrome like Molly McKinney and the fact that today The stats are shocking.
	Between a quarter and 30 plus percent of women in America have psychiatric issues or are taking drugs for psychiatric issues.
	What's going on and what do we do about it, Carrie?
	Well, for whatever reason, God gave me a 20-year lead time to work through those things.
	I was diagnosed with PTSD, depression, fibromyalgia.
	I had extreme suicidal ideation.
	I was in and out of the hospital nine different times.
	So I've been through some stuff, and the most potent Antidote to this has been my relationship with God that was
	truly the anchor that I was missing and I was searching for it in all the wrong places
	I would imagine I'd bet I'd bet you dinner or anybody watching we interview her ask her what she thinks about God
	Yeah, right and and the human or her family or
	Or her father, exactly, yeah.
	We, as humans, are built with a God-shaped hole in our hearts.
	And nothing can fill that hole.
	And when you look at Gen Z, because a lot of these numbers that you're citing are being driven by Gen Z women, and a Gen Z woman today is almost twice as likely to kill herself as a Gen X woman was when she was the same age.
	And also there's this peculiarity if you look at the twenty-some... well, the 18 to 28 demographic.
	That the men are trending towards God.
	The men are trending towards conservative traditional values.
	And the women are going in the opposite direction, like the speed of sound.
	Yes, and that's what's quite different because typically women tend to be more spiritual or more religious, and that's what's so unique and different about this age that we're living in.
	But in general, when you look at the statistics on suicide, men are actually more likely to actually successfully commit suicide, almost four times more likely, but women are almost four times more likely to ideate or think about it or attempt suicide.
	And fail, yeah.
	And a lot of times women have multiple symptoms leading up to their attempts, whereas for men, they hide their symptoms, they mask them, and then they're one and done.
	So what do we do?
	You've come through this, you had two decades to get out in front of it, you seem stable and healthy today, so what do we need to do as a nation, as a civilization?
	Yeah, and this is much deeper.
	That's why I'm glad we're having this deeper conversation, and why you've talked about, you know, next-gen Marxism.
	That's ultimately what's happened here, is that the Gen Z generation is the most biblically illiterate, atheist, agnostic generation we've ever seen in 250 years.
	And that is basically a massive social experiment.
	And not coincidentally, people who are not religious and not spiritual are significantly more likely to kill themselves, significantly more likely to die of a drug overdose or be alcoholic and die of alcohol overdose.
	And that's what the statistics show.
	And so the work that I'm doing now, I mean, I do my typical political rabble-rousing as well, but I've opened almost a new ministry.
	I have an organization that I work with called Healthy Faith.
	And we organized a conference on June 12th.
	It was hosted at the Museum of the Bible.
	And I brought in scholars from Harvard Medical School, from Catholic University, from Baylor College of Medicine, from Liberty University.
	These are all scholars in mental health and faith and the intersection.
	And we talked about the robust science.
	Here are some statistics that might surprise you, but also might not.
	How many therapists or what percentage of therapists are atheist agnostic?
	Oh, I would say two-thirds.
	Actually, 61%.
	Yep.
	And yet, 81% of Americans, according to Gallup, say they believe in God.
	So you have this massive disconnect between what people believe and what will actually save their life and the so-called experts meant to deliver the mental health care, you know, just regimen.
	And so, David Rosmarin, he'd be an excellent guest if you're interested more in this topic.
	He's a devout Jewish scholar at Harvard Medical School.
	He's done extensive research with McLean Hospital, which is the mental health hospital there.
	He's found among the patients, 76% say they want mental health care infused with spirituality and faith.
	And yet, among the practitioners and the physicians and the so-called experts, 71% say, I don't know how to do this.
	I haven't been trained in it.
	I'm ignorant.
	So that's why people are dying and what they're doing, what they're doing, Sebastian, is they are creating, if you do not believe in an ultimate truth or an outside reality or like solution, you will create up all kinds of BS like cut off your breasts or whatever.
	I'm so glad that you came in because it's such an obvious thing and it's like a sledgehammer of truth.
	If those who have faith are mentally healthier.
	Surely shouldn't we promote that faith lifestyle in our society?
	How about that instead of drugs and everything else?
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	Kamala's illegals are also crushing your wages and stealing your jobs.
	Last month alone, think of this, American-born workers lost 1.3 million jobs and migrants gained 635,000 jobs.
	So we're putting our migrants to work at a much higher level than our own people, our own citizens.
	So as we create millions of new manufacturing jobs here in Georgia and nationwide, we will make sure that these jobs go to American Citizens, not illegal citizens.
	People that came into our country illegally.
	Your wages will rise, your costs will fall, your job opportunities will grow, because we will conduct the largest deportation operation, sadly, in American history.
	We have no choice.
	This is not sustainable.
	That's incredible.
	Americans are losing jobs.
	Illegals are getting jobs.
	And what is Kamala Harris?
	Somebody just sent me this.
	Kamala Harris.
	This is actually from her Twitter feed.
	For Donald Trump, our economy works best if it works for those who own the big skyscrapers.
	Not for those who build them.
	Not for those who wire them.
	And not for those who mop the floors?
	Unbelievable.
	They just denied the reality of the four years, of the economy, of the price of gas, the average mortgage payments.
	The president continued, if you want to save the economy, this is what the president does.
	Cut 13.
	If you don't make your product here, then you will have to pay a tariff, a very substantial tariff, when you send your product into the United States.
	And by the way, you know, for years, they knocked the word — the word tariff, properly used, is a beautiful word, one of the most beautiful words I've ever heard.
	It's music to my ears.
	A lot of bad people didn't like that word, but now they're finding out I was right.
	And we will take in hundreds of billions of dollars into our treasury and use that money to benefit the American citizens.
	And it will not cause inflation, by the way.
	It's a beautiful word.
	If you want to build something, if you want to sell something, and you're an American company, under President Trump, you're going to have to do it here, in America.
	And that's exactly as it should be.
	You can call it protectionism, but at the end of the day, it's about American jobs, in America, To make us safe and secure.
	It's really that simple.
	How did we get here that one party denies all of that?
	It's very simple.
	They're Marxists, like Kamala.
	Katie has all the receipts in her latest book with Mike Gonzales, Next Gen Marxism.
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	you you
	Talk to me about your level of interest in the criminal charges and so forth.
	February 6th.
	January 6th.
	So I remember that day.
	I know he was the standing president.
	I'm not familiar with the charges that are being brought against him for that.
	I'm not following that charge.
	No, there's multiple court cases going on I'm just not familiar with.
	I mean, that doesn't sound like it's going to be a factor in deciding who to vote for.
	No.
	Okay, so when I say January 6th, what do you think?
	Oh, I just remember seeing it on the news, like all the riots and stuff.
	Don't really know what it was about or what happened, though.
	Did it... I mean, how did it make you feel when you saw it?
	I don't know.
	I don't really feel any way about it.
	I don't... I mean, people showed their emotion, I guess.
	Probably in the wrong way, but it happened.
	Jeff, what show is that?
	Is that Fox or Newsmax?
	What is that?
	That's Rachel Maddow's time slot.
	It's currently, supposedly her show, but she hosts it on Mondays.
	Then Alex Wagner does Tuesday through Friday, but it's Rachel Maddow's show.
	Wow.
	You mean I could do my show one day out of five?
	Yeah, I know.
	Wow.
	And those are union workers saying they don't care about January the 6th?
	Yep, in Michigan too.
	Interesting.
	I wonder why they would show that.
	Let's ask a woman who gives us her sage media analysis every week here and tells us how Californians are staying sane.
	She keeps Los Angeles sane every morning with that.
	What should we call him?
	A radio broadcaster in training, the one and only Grant Stinchfield.
	Jennifer Horne!
	Welcome back to America First!
	Hi!
	What a good gig for Rachel Maddow, right?
	You work once a week.
	It's like buy one, get four free.
	So that's pretty good.
	I know, I know.
	Not a very hard-working lady.
	Follow this very hard-working lady at Jennifer Horne right now, crntalk.com.
	And every morning, AM 870, AM 590, the answer.
	First, I have to settle an argument here, which has been Festering for the last 24 hours.
	Uh-oh.
	My executive producer, who's been working with me since day one, says that I've never sung on air on my show.
	Ooh.
	Haven't you heard me trip the light fantastic and with my dulcet tones sing a few tunes?
	I feel that you have and I think you also rapped if I'm not mistaken one time when I was on the air.
	Yeah when we were talking about what was the British rappers that you like?
	They're like the British Salt-N-Pepa.
	Oh yeah, the British Salt-N-Pepas.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I know who you mean.
	Oh my gosh, that sister, those two sisters.
	I think you sang it to me, if I'm not mistaken.
	Mel and Kim, Mel and Kim.
	I think I did sing it to you.
	Let me tell you something though, Jeff.
	I did hear, this is in the Sebastian Gorka dossier, from a very good source.
	Is this like the Steele dossier?
	Yes, it's just like that.
	I have dossiers on everyone.
	You know, I like to keep them all.
	So, from a source, Mike Gallagher, that Dr. G on our cruise to Alaska was singing the theme to The Love Boat out on his balcony.
	So, I don't want to reveal any secrets, but you know, here's one.
	I can't believe he gave that away.
	I can't believe he gave that away.
	That was big.
	That was big.
	Yeah, because Gallagher had the suite next to us.
	Yeah.
	And the ship was docked along with some other ships.
	And it was the cutest thing.
	The ships, do you remember?
	Maybe you didn't know why I was singing.
	The ships were using their ship's horn to play the love boat theme.
	Oh, that's right.
	I did hear that.
	Yeah.
	And I just, I had to start singing along.
	Right?
	Right?
	Of course.
	It's just the rules.
	You have to do that.
	And I'm thinking I'm doing it on the privacy of my balcony with my wife and my daughter and the bloody Mike Gallagher spy next door on his... I think he recorded it probably on his phone.
	Don't you think?
	It'll be used against you at some point in a court of law or when you're running for office or something.
	I'm sure Gallagher's going to come out with that one.
	You know him.
	All right.
	Well, thank you.
	Thank you for proving to me that I'm not insane and that I have sung on my show and Jeff was just having a little nap somewhere.
	He probably blocked it out because it was so good.
	It was so good!
	He couldn't compete.
	He had a seizure.
	He blocked it out.
	You know how nice I am?
	Not only do I sing on this show, I teach my team things.
	I'm an educator.
	Do you know that?
	I taught them a new phrase today.
	It has to do with the next clip.
	Have you ever heard the phrase, rat fink, Jen?
	I have heard the phrase ratfink, not for many, many years, but I think the reason I know it is that when I used to like professional wrestling in the 1980s and the 1990s, I think they used to say ratfink a lot.
	Okay, so ratfink is a... Not a nice term.
	It's not a nice term.
	I looked it up.
	It refers to somebody.
	Let's just get the etymological correct.
	RATFINK is a slang term used to describe someone who is contemptible, undesirable, an informer, or a traitor.
	And I think it's a perfect description for Michael Cohen.
	Absolutely.
	I mean, that's actually being nice.
	I think Ratfink's the nicest thing.
	He's probably even been called by his mother.
	Well, it's an insult to rats, and none of my guys knew it.
	So Dr. G educates his team every single day, and this is why he is a Ratfink.
	And I love this cut, the latest from that contemptible piece of human excrement.
	Cut seven, Michael Cohen.
	What do you think happens to you if he wins?
	Well, I'm out of here.
	I mean, I'm already working on a foreign passport with a completely different name.
	I don't know how it's going to work as far as dealing with my wife and my children.
	I certainly don't want them moving to where I'm looking to go.
	Um, I will pay.
	I will pay for your ticket as long as it's a one-way ticket, right?
	I will pay business class, okay, for you, Michael Cohen, to leave this country, if God willing we win.
	And the strange thing there, he says, um, I'm getting a passport from another country in a completely different name.
	Huh, interesting.
	And then, um, he hopes his wife and children don't come with him.
	What kind of man is this?
	Not a great one.
	I've got a special place that he can go.
	Actually, I've got a few suggestions of places we can send him.
	I'll be FCC compliant.
	It's warm.
	Bring your Bermuda shorts.
	I think that Michael Cohen is quite the study.
	When you talk about people who have very inflated egos and very inflated senses of self, this is the guy that comes up in the dictionary.
	When you have President Trump, people, assassins, Plural, the country of Iran, the United States government all gunning for you.
	I'm sorry to say, Michael Cohen, but I think as much as you are a rat fink, you are down very far on the list of people that is going to be at the top of President Trump's attention once he gets back in the Oval Office.
	It's shocking what you just said, because the Office of the Director of National Intelligence just briefed President Trump on the active Iranian assassination plots against him, and he kind of just joked about it, because what else are you going to do?
	But at the same time as he's getting briefings about the multiple teams trying to kill him here in America, This is a member of the Biden administration.
	This is the Commerce Secretary, Gina Raimondo, who says, what?
	Just listen to this cut.
	Cut three.
	You know, what he says is the opposite.
	It's just another lie.
	Like, how did we get here?
	Let's extinguish him for good.
	We have an answer.
	We have a remarkably talented candidate who is sincere, who's pragmatic, who's open.
	Let's just get it done.
	Extinguish him for good and then Biden goes on the view and his reaction to what Whoopi Goldberg says is even worse.
	Cut 12.
	Then he just wouldn't go.
	He was like a bug.
	He just kept being there.
	He was like a bug right there.
	So you felt...
	Whoopi Goldberg calls President Trump a bug and then Joe Biden slams his hand on the table as if he's killing President Trump.
	I know.
	I didn't see the Biden clip yet, but that Gina Raimondo one talked about on the Inland Empire Answer today.
	And I have to tell you, Seb, that that is Nazi language.
	You know that.
	You would think after two assassination attempts, after the country of Iran coming after President Trump, that it might just be time to cool the rhetoric.
	I mean, the guy that was arrested before President Trump was even shot at the first time in Butler
	said that he was trying to hire multiple assassins in the name of Iran to go and take him out.
	There could be operatives in this country right now who are just waiting to take a shot
	when they get a chance.
	And they can't cool the rhetoric.
	And you just mentioned something kind of in jest, that you teach your staff things.
	And you have been haunting me over the last week.
	You may not even realize it.
	But the last time we talked on the morning answer, you said something that just has stuck
	with me and I think you're absolutely right.
	And that is that the news media and the Democrats are trying to normalize the death of Donald Trump.
	And it is clear.
	After the first attempt, you know, everybody did the right thing and they kind of took a break, but that was when they were still trying to remove Joe Biden from office.
	Now that they have their candidate, this is what they're trying to do.
	Like, somehow he's asking for this.
	And I think it's reprehensible, and I think it's disgusting, but I hope people are watching, because if you think that we can save our country, these people cannot be left in control any longer.
	Something has to happen to disrupt the current cycle, because they are willing to take him out if it's for their greater good.
	Breaking from Mr. G, despite everything we've just discussed and what Jen just mentioned, President Trump's team has announced Butler, Pennsylvania, he will be returning on October the 5th.
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	Wow.
	So cool.
	Glad he's going back.
	And then Grant told me something about the Secret Service or someone telling him he couldn't go back to Wisconsin, that it wasn't safe.
	Did you hear about that?
	Yes.
	Yeah, I did.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	They gave him a briefing.
	Election interference much?
	Right.
	Can you show me the tweet, Eric, what it looks like?
	Yeah, one second.
	There's the tweet.
	Part one of the tweet.
	Okay, part one and then the images, right?
	Yeah.
	Part two has the images and I have the individual images after that.
	So I don't know how much you want to read of the text itself.
	Uh, no, just the, um, yeah, you can, you can put those up while I'm reading the text.
	You can, you can put those up.
	Then their contributions and then order supervisors.
	Okay.
	Okay, we did Whoopi.
	You said just use the images, not the actual text?
	No, the text as well.
	Text as you're reading it.
	I'll be reading the text here.
	Okay.
	And then we'll get Jen to react.
	Okay.
	Let's need a title for Kerry.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	We did Cohen.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Open up the lines.
	Come in with ten.
	And then I'll do the tweet.
	And if we have time, I'll do four and five.
	Alright, come in with ten, tweet, and then four and five.
	Two minutes.
	We've got a plan!
	I know, it's weird.
	It's weird, we've got a plan there.
	Weird.
	Did you like that Andrew Lester story that I told you yesterday on the Morning Answer?
	Yes.
	The Max Factor guy?
	124 years and he's going to be out because of her.
	What about Ryan Raff's son being arrested for child pornography?
	I know.
	My dad would never do anything bad.
	What a surprise.
	Unbelievable.
	Or maybe just totally believable.
	Look at that.
	Cheers to water.
	Here's the big cup today.
	Don't you usually have soda?
	Coffee.
	Diet Coke usually at this time.
	I'm a Pepsi man.
	I used to be a Diet Pepsi girl, but then for some reason I started liking Diet Coke.
	I don't know when the switch happened, but I felt betrayed by myself.
	You drink regular, right?
	Nobody does that.
	Nobody does that.
	Nobody makes a switch midlife, right?
	Nobody switches.
	What's going on?
	I don't know.
	I think they started using, you know what I think it was?
	What?
	One of them stopped using aspartame.
	Ah!
	You know what I miss?
	I think it might have been Pepsi.
	Tab.
	It was so good, wasn't it?
	And the can was so pretty.
	It was like that pink coral color.
	Oh, I loved it.
	Loved it.
	We've identified one time you sang in five and a half years.
	Sure wasn't doing cuts out that day.
	I'm sure you were slaving in the salt mines, and yes, we know, we know you're working hard, Jeff.
	On the golf course.
	Are you wanting to see it?
	Are you wanting to hear it?
	Smoking cigars I gave you, we know, we know.
	That's what I said, he's trying to goad Seven to sing it.
	He is, he loves to goad me.
	Yeah, are you wanting it?
	Just goad him!
	Ten seconds.
	And I'm going to see ELO tonight.
	What is that?
	What?
	Mostly just immigration.
	Can you talk a little bit more about that?
	What about immigration have you been paying attention to?
	Um, there are thousands and thousands of illegal immigrants coming across the border every day, and the Vice President has done minimal work to fix that, um, based on what I've seen.
	So, I'd like that to change.
	I love that MSNBC host.
	Well, uh, what about immigrants?
	What do you mean immigrants?
	Why is immigration a problem?
	Explain to me what the issue is.
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	We're back with Jennifer Horne, and I don't know if you've seen this story.
	This was sent to me by one of my listeners.
	It's a couple of tweets, and this is how fake, this is how gaslit the other campaign is.
	So let's put these up while I read.
	The Harris-Walz campaign is running an ad in Pennsylvania claiming to depict two ordinary Pennsylvanians who are former Trump supporters and lifelong Republicans turned off by January 6th in Charlottesville and now voting for Kamala Harris.
	After doing some research, I found information on these two individuals whose names are Robert Lang and Christina Chadwick.
	Both are trained actors Film producers and farmers who recently debuted a film called Hayride to Hell at the Far Left Center Film Festival in State College, Pennsylvania, which features films about interracial gay fathers who find themselves raising a child after one of their dads becomes a widower and another about the struggle of illegal immigrants.
	Lang and Chadwick are also co-owners of a farm in Pennsylvania, and Lang serves as the chair of a three-member Williston Township-Chester County Board of Supervisors.
	They are both—and this is where we have the details, because he dug them up, the federal files—for the last decade, they are prolific Democrat donors, including donations to John Fetterman and Hillary Clinton and ActBlue.
	This is stunning.
	Jen, this is a campaign ad for Harris and Waltz.
	I'm not surprised.
	And I'm starting to feel, you know, I think we were all like the shakeup of the campaign.
	It kind of, I don't know, you start to believe all the headlines and the polls and you kind of feel, oh gosh, can people really be that dumb?
	I don't know.
	I'm feeling more optimistic today than I have in a long time, and it's for reasons like this.
	How many people do you know have switched from Kamala to Trump?
	I mean, I can't think of anybody.
	I talk to a lot of people.
	I hear a lot of anecdotal stories.
	I am hearing about more and more excitement for President Trump.
	We heard that in the early voting states so far, that that information is looking good.
	Of course, Kamala Harris has to bring in actors because she doesn't have the people who are that excited to see her.
	I mean, you saw those union workers coming into this segment who were saying she had a chance to fix things.
	And even though she tries to pretend like she is the future and she is the change, she is a person who's been in charge for the last four years.
	And people can't handle any more of this.
	This is going to be a pocketbook election.
	And people are going to be really concerned about where the economy is and what their safety looks like.
	And I don't know.
	It doesn't surprise me she has to hire people to pretend they're appalled by January 6th.
	The next two clips are not from actors.
	They're from people who live in the real world.
	Business owner Raphael Arroyo and business owner Shanna Gray.
	Let's listen to these cuts.
	Cut four.
	As a businessman, you look at past performance.
	So I saw what the economy was doing during the Trump administration.
	I was able to grow my business.
	I was able to open more locations.
	And, you know, that hasn't been the case in the Biden-Harris administration.
	I've been, you know, stagnant.
	I've been dealing with fighting these rising costs, having to battle, you know, for employee pay and trying to raise the prices, you know, so I can keep up.
	And let's listen to Ms.
	Gray.
	Nina, you unfortunately had to close your cafe during the Biden-Harris administration.
	You voted in 2020 for Joe Biden.
	Not going to do that this time.
	No Kamala Harris for you.
	It's definitely not looking that way.
	It's definitely not looking that way at all.
	So I think there's an angle here that we have to focus on for a second.
	As a Hispanic business owner, as a black female business owner, It's one thing to vote for Biden and then now decide after four years you're going to vote for President Trump and not Kamala.
	But to go on national media and say that, Jen, I'm sorry, that's a whole different ballgame.
	It means you are outraged by what happened to you, right?
	I mean, that means that you're ready to just not just quietly go and vote for somebody else, but you're ready to scream it at the world because you've obviously suffered, which is a story of so many small business owners.
	And I just have to tell you, there's a correlation here with the story that has come out in California about businesses, because this is an idea that is championed by Kamala Harris on a national level, and that is raising the minimum wage, raising the minimum wage.
	We always hear about that.
	California raised the minimum wage specifically for fast food workers to $20 an hour.
	And there's a new study that came out almost a year into this policy.
	98% of those restaurants have had to raise their prices, which is what would happen.
	78% of them have laid off employees.
	And now you're looking at almost 10,000 employees that have been laid off from the fast food industry in California in just, what, the last seven or eight months of this.
	So look at the policies, how they are rolled out in California.
	These are policies that Kamala Harris will endorse with, I mean, just full-throated endorsement of these policies that happen in California.
	It's her state.
	And ask if you can handle that if you're a business owner or if you are someone who's just trying to make ends meet and part of the middle class.
	That is what she wants to do to the rest of the country.
	That's what Joe Biden attempted to do with his lack of economic planning.
	They don't understand because they've never worked.
	They've never run a business.
	And then you get what we have here, literally across the street, is the McDonald's that went to the kiosk model about a year ago, and so nobody's got a job.
	It's just a kiosk.
	Right, that's not great for workers.
	Again, 78% of the restaurants in California have had to do layoffs because of the high minimum wage.
	That will come to a fast food restaurant near you if she gets into the White House in November.
	Bingo, bingo, bingo.
	Follow her at Jennifer Horne.
	But more importantly, make sure you subscribe to her podcast with somebody you may have heard of called Katie Gawker, the happy women podcast on every platform that matters and blowing up on YouTube as well.
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	And whilst you're online, you can give me a follow as well.
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	That's very cool.
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	And for my analysis, go to my substack, sebastiangawker.substack.com, where I might have to post a video of me singing.
	I don't know.
	We'll think about it.
	And I'm excited.
	I thought it was funny that Jeff said, what's that?
	Because I actually said the same thing.
	I know who they are now, because I looked up their songs.
	But yeah.
	We play their music.
	They're amazing songs, you mean.
	You mean they're incredible songs.
	No, that one's not bad.
	And then the other one I saw that I recognized.
	Mr. Blue Sky.
	No, not that one.
	I guess I've heard it from a movie.
	I've heard those from movies.
	That checks out.
	Oh, Don't Bring Me Down, that's another one.
	Don't Bring Me Down, that's a classic!
	Those are the two that I know of.
	Yeah.
	Come on, James.
	That's exciting!
	I know, I know, I know, I know, I just, I heard the ad on WMAL, I went to the website, my daughter this morning from California taught me how to use Ticketmaster, I asked my old colleague from National Defense University, he used to teach counter-terrorism with me, same age as me, big gun nut, he said, hey, do you like ELO?
	I love a yellow!
	Do you want to come to the concert tonight?
	So we're both going.
	Oh, my gosh.
	You guys are going to have so fun.
	You're going to take the tie off, though, right?
	I might loosen it.
	He'll go in character.
	Just loosen it just a little.
	I might loosen it.
	Halfway through, I may loosen it.
	Yeah.
	You should do it and then lasso it and throw it up at the stage.
	I think I might actually wear casual clothes this evening.
	There you go.
	I think that's a good idea.
	I think it's going to be fun.
	Take pictures.
	Can't wait.
	I know.
	My daughter said, you've got to have lots of pictures, lots of movies.
	If you don't take pictures, you are not there.
	I was not there, clearly.
	That's how it works.
	Thanks, Jen.
	Bye, guys.
	Bye.
	Bye, Jen.
	All right.
	Titles for Jen and for Carrie.
	For Carrie, um...
	What should we call it?
	What should we call it?
	My father was a fake prophet.
	Oh, that's actually pretty good.
	Let's do that.
	And then for Jen... Why is Kamala Harris hiring actors?
	Is that good?
	Why is Kamala Harris faking her ads, maybe?
	Something like that.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Good.
	Yeah.
	And then you can block.
	He says you can block.
	Did we play 10?
	I think we did?
	Play 10 again?
	We did that with Jen just now.
	Oh, we came in with it, right.
	So the only thing we've got left is Vindman, right?
	Yes.
	Okay, good.
	I'll go to calls.
	Gotta do that.
	And Brandon Johnson.
	I thought we had a second call.
	Oh, you can open it up.
	Uh, and which one?
	Oh, Johnson!
	Yeah, oh yeah.
	Real quick, yeah, play it.
	While 34 aldermen voted for the 51 million, it did not come out without a lot of controversy, especially from some black residents who say the money should go towards Chicago residents who have been neglected for years.
	Very much committed to the revenue stream, or revenue streams, that ensure that we are... Can you get rid of the chyron?
	Well, 34 aldermen voted for the 51 million.
	It did not come up without... And then we'll go to Judy.
	Okay.
	Did you hear Mark Levin had almost exactly the same accident as me?
	What?
	What happened?
	A quad.
	He didn't separate it, but he, like, ripped his quad.
	I heard him say he was doing the show, like, in his wheelchair.
	and then he had like two...
	You You
	you you
	On the side of the U.S. Constitution, America first.
	We only will be playing electric light orchestra music for the rest of the show because we
	are celebrating.
	I never thought I'd get to do this.
	I never saw ELO or Jeff Lynne live as a kid.
	And tonight, in the nation's capital, I will be there with one of my good buddies.
	It's supposed to be their farewell tour, but you know what bands are like.
	But maybe it is!
	I'm super excited to see ELO live.
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	Alright, it's not just the fact that they're using fake supporters.
	Actors being paid to appear in ads for Kamala Harris.
	The people in Democrat cities have had enough of the Democrat lunacy, and Chicago is amongst them.
	Just listen to this report.
	While 34 aldermen voted for the 51 million, it did not come out without a lot of controversy, especially from some black residents who say the money should go towards Chicago residents who have been neglected for years.
	Very much committed to a revenue stream or revenue streams that ensure that we are dealing with the crises of those who are unhoused in the city of Chicago while also making sure that there's room for those that we are welcoming.
	We need to allocate some of this money for our black children, for the black community.
	51 million dollars for migrants brought some loud and vocal opposition from the public, to the point where police had to escort people out of the city council meeting several times.
	Mayor Brandon Johnson asked for a two-minute breather.
	We want to make sure that we can continue to conduct the business of the people.
	Jeff, how stupid are these people?
	You're voting in public to give 51 million to illegal immigrants in your city and you think you're just going to get away with it?
	Oh, I can't hear you.
	Yeah, well, that's Mayor Brandon Johnson.
	He's the one that's already been in the hospital for anxiety when he first started taking over the job.
	Don't remember he did a dead sprint, ran away.
	He ran away from the journalists.
	Yeah, he really is one of the dumbest politicians, I think.
	But is there nobody around him who says, you know, right now, Mr. Mayor, we're like 42 days away from the election.
	Maybe you shouldn't give tens of millions of dollars to the illegals in Chicago.
	No, they don't care because they're used to the media covering everything up for them.
	So they think it won't be a problem.
	Yeah, I guess you're right.
	Let's go to your calls.
	We haven't had any calls so far.
	Let's go to Judy in Brooklyn.
	Yes, I've been trying to call the whole time.
	Well, we're very busy.
	I'm sorry, but you're number one.
	Well, you know what?
	That's exactly what Jeff told me.
	You're all very busy.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Okay.
	Oh, okay.
	You know what?
	Persistence pays off, because I kept dialing, dialing, and now I'm through!
	So, by the way, I believe God loves you very much, by the way.
	I just want to tell you that.
	He loves all of us.
	He loves all of us, but that's very kind.
	He loves you more.
	He loves you more, I'm telling you.
	Don't let it go to my head.
	Alright, get to the point before I get flattered beyond belief.
	Go on.
	Okay, so let's see how I could, like, put this together, alright?
	I heard a, I think, filmmaker called Joe Gilbert, A couple of days ago.
	Two days ago.
	And I was fit to be tied.
	I was fit to be tied.
	And he made a film that's called like this.
	Arrested by Kamala.com.
	Arrested by Kamala.com.
	And now I call her Cruella Kamala.
	She is the most wicked woman on the planet Earth.
	It's not even funny.
	It's not funny.
	You know something?
	When she was A.G.
	in California, listen to what she did.
	She rounded up people that were black people, her people, yeah?
	And she rounded them up and she was out to get them and put them in prison and prosecute them.
	Why?
	Because their children were not going to school as many days as they're supposed to, whatever.
	Yes, I remember.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, but wait.
	Now, here comes this one woman that she really, the campaign for the Trump should really promote her every which way.
	Her name is Sherry People.
	Now, Sherry People, Her daughter came down with something called sickle cell anemia, okay?
	She was in the hospital so many times.
	She had notes to show that she was in the hospital, she was sick.
	They didn't care.
	This Kamala told the prosecutors to go after her, prosecute her, and be very mean to her, and she cackled all the way.
	You know, they have her on recording.
	Will you stay on the line and talk to Jeff because I did a quick search online and I can't find this movie, Arrested by Kamala, and I want to know more about it.
	So don't go anywhere.
	We're up against the clock, but I'd like to get more details.
	So Judy, don't go anywhere.
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	I'm Scott Thuman.
	Tonight we are hosting a debate for the 7th Congressional District in Virginia.
	Joining us is Republican candidate Derek Anderson.
	Democratic candidate Eugene Vindman declined to participate this evening despite a month of working to find a date that worked for both campaigns.
	We provided multiple offers for him to change his mind, but so far have received no response.
	Eric, what did we just witness?
	That's like, uh, WABC 7, ABC 7, right?
	The local station in DC.
	And that's supposed to be, what, like a debate between two congressional candidates?
	For a very competitive congressional district here in Virginia, I think it's the 7th district, where yes, the Democrat nominee, Yevgeny Eugene Vindman, uh, was a no-show.
	And who is Yevgeny Vindman?
	He is the brother of Mr., he doesn't like when you call him that, Mr. Sasha Alexander Vindman.
	You mean the guy who betrayed President Trump and leaked classified phone transcripts to the media?
	That guy?
	When he was a serving Lieutenant Colonel in the National Security Council?
	That same guy, and his brother's now trying to ride that notorious family name into Congress.
	Why did he turn up for the debate, Eric?
	It has echoes to me of when Terry McAuliffe was so confident he was going to win the governor's race in 2021.
	He didn't feel the need to talk to reporters.
	It's kind of the same thing here, I think.
	He thinks he has this race in the bag.
	What's that Republican candidate's name?
	Derek Anderson.
	All right, let's get candidate Anderson on the show.
	I think we should, because he doesn't seem to be afraid.
	Unlike Yevgeny Vindman, who was born in the Ukraine, of course.
	All right.
	Do you remember?
	It seems like everybody's forgotten him.
	I'm not surprised.
	Allegedly, this is the person who, after the anointing of Kamala Harris, is now the Democrat vice president candidate.
	Here's a reminder of who he is.
	Let's start with inflation.
	What do you tell people who wake up, frankly, each morning wondering, how am I going to get by financially?
	Yeah, I tell them, Kamala Harris and I know something about it.
	We're middle class folks.
	Our families sit at the table trying to pay the bill.
	We were being asked about what you're going to do about inflation.
	And your answer is, you're middle class.
	Yeah, a very strange member of the middle class who visited China 31 times as a member of the National Guard.
	Maybe we need to get to the bottom of that.
	And I think the America First Legal Foundation is going to do just that.
	Let's ask their Senior Vice President, Reid Rubenstein.
	Welcome to America First.
	Thank you, Doctor.
	How are you today?
	I'm good, I'm good.
	So tell us about this interesting news we heard from America First Legal this week.
	What are you guys up to when it comes to the man who loves Communist China?
	Well, it certainly seems like Governor Walz has An interest in the Communist Chinese Party.
	Certainly not every day that an American, especially one who is a congressman and then a governor, visits Communist China 30 times and has their honeymoon there.
	But this is what Governor Walz reportedly has done.
	On top of that, He apparently operated an outfit called Educational Travel Adventures, a for-profit enterprise that organized trips to China for American children, and was a fellow at a Chinese institution, Macau Polytechnic University.
	And this was all after the communist takeover of China in 1948, right?
	This is as China remains a communist dictatorship.
	I just want to be sure here with the timeline.
	Yes, sir.
	This is Communist China.
	While he was governor, and this should concern everybody, while he was governor, the University of Minnesota and St.
	Cloud State University operated Confucius Institutes.
	Confucius Institute was a Chinese-influenced peddling operation that bipartisan action in Congress and in the Trump administration eventually convinced most U.S.
	universities to shut them down.
	It took a while, though, and apparently St.
	Cloud State's Confucius Institute was one of the last 10 operating in the country.
	And really, the fact of the matter is that everybody should be concerned that a governor appears to have such a cozy relationship with America's peer competitor and the People's Republic of China.
	Now, obviously, there's been a lot, a lot, a lot written about the Biden family's connections to China and Hunter Biden's business operations there.
	Again, a little bit concerning and puzzling that you would see Governor Walz having these kind of connections to the Communist Chinese Party.
	So what is America First Legal proposing right now, given these concerns?
	Well, we have opened up an investigation.
	We're trying to find out what the government knew about Governor Walz's Chinese connections.
	We anticipate that there were probably defensive briefings given before he went to China while he was an elected official.
	We're trying to find out what the Minnesota state authorities knew about the Confucius Institutes and why Governor Walz was working with and speaking to groups that frankly are fronts for the Chinese Communist Party while he was governor.
	And over a period of years.
	This was a long-term relationship and we need to find out more about what's going on.
	And beyond that, as I said at the very beginning of the when he was anointed, it's not just what he was doing, it was how did he maintain status inside the National Guard as he's going to Communist China repeatedly.
	We need answers for that.
	I think that's the buried story.
	Yeah, and that's certainly one of the things we're looking at about, again, what the government knew, and more importantly, whether and to what extent they were tracking Governor Walz, now Governor Walz, then Congressman Walz, and before then National Guard member Walz, and whether or not, for example, he was reporting his foreign contacts the way he was supposed to.
	You know, was there ever a security analysis done?
	We need to find all of these things out because, obviously, there are very significant concerns about our elected officials, or there should be very significant concerns about our elected officials and their relationships with the Communist Chinese Party.
	All right.
	Well, we cannot wait to find out what you discover in your investigation.
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	I don't think so, no.
	But shouldn't he?
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	Isn't that a reason for someone to sing?
	Just let him choose which song he sings and then have him sing away.
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	I have no interest in it.
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	Isn't it hard?
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	Stop it, stop it.
	He's not a foreigner.
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	He is an American national, okay?
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	Well, he's got foreign influences.
	I think that's what the act is for.
	But it's the latest salvo in repressing our free speech.
	First, they took Admiral Bannon off the playing field.
	I'm sure you've probably heard Alex Jones' empire is going to be liquidated in November.
	Like him or not, he's another independent voice.
	No, it's not a question of liking him or not.
	He's a scumbag.
	He made money out of the death of children.
	But carry on, Dave.
	Yeah, I think that they're just looking to monopolize information.
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	Information, Dave.
	We live in a technocracy.
	If you look up Trevor Loughton and Brian T. Kennedy, those people are doing amazing work exposing this.
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	welcome dear friends to a very special one-on-one with a gentleman I just met
	recently in Wyoming who impressed me immensely not just because of what he has
	created there truly a world-class institution that all three and a half
	million of you listening right now need to go and visit But also because of his dedication to those who stand on the wall to protect all of us and because of his patriotism.
	We are talking to the founder, the president of the National Museum of Military Vehicles, my new friend, Daniel Starks.
	Mr. Starks, welcome to America First one-on-one!
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you for having me on your program.
	It's really an honor for me.
	Well, I don't know where to begin because My visit with you at your institution was not what I expected.
	My good friend Rudy and Terry invited me to a charity event in Jackson Hole, which you attended.
	And before that, he invited me to a rodeo.
	My first ever, which means I am now permitted to say, not my first rodeo.
	And then he said, I've got a friend who's got a museum and we need to go and see it.
	And after my wife and myself and a small group of people were escorted around by you, the founder, for about four hours, we started in front of the amazing vault for a gun safe I wish I owned the contents of.
	And then you walked us through this A collection of the likes of which I don't think exists anywhere else.
	A friend of mine is the former chairman of the board of the National Rifle Association, who has, I think, the biggest non-museum private collection of functioning tanks in America.
	I thought that was pretty impressive, but then I met you and your museum, the National Museum of Military Vehicles, and I was blown away.
	So before we talk about Your institution, what your strategic intent is.
	Say a little bit about yourself and what you did before you built this incredible, incredible museum, Daniel.
	I spent 32 years in the high-tech cardiovascular medical device business.
	I served as chairman, president, and CEO of a Fortune 500 New York Stock Exchange company.
	We had the privilege of being able to create innovative medical device technology at a level where we calculated we were helping to save a life once every three seconds of every hour of every business day.
	So that success created a lot of financial success for me.
	And now that I'm retired from the medical device business, I chose to use my personal resources to create a tribute to American veterans and their families and to do my part to help educate next generations on the history of American freedom.
	So when did it begin?
	How did it begin?
	I know there's a story.
	You showed us one of your first tanks that you owned and the fact that you have it in the parade every year where you live.
	Did it start with you having an interest in heavy metal and then starting your own collection and then one day saying, oh, I need a museum and I need to make this public?
	Give us the genesis.
	When did it begin and how did it begin?
	I would start with me as a youngster.
	I always enjoyed, I was always personally fascinated for reasons I can't articulate, with American military history.
	When I could first chip books out of the public library, I'd check out books on the American Civil War, the Revolutionary War, enough so that in fifth grade when we studied the American Civil War, the teacher had me teach the class because I knew more than he did.
	So that really marks the beginning of my interest in this area.
	On the armor itself, that's never been my interest, but along the way with my interest for history and with my association with a number of Americans who have served,
	particularly served in combat, I got an opportunity to buy a 30-ton paperweight, really a
	derelict, totally junked, World War II Sherman tank for the price of $50,000. It was gutted. It
	was rusted through in the hull. But I was fascinated by it, not knowing a civilian could own a
	tank, even though this was a piece And my fantasy was to buy it and find somebody capable of restoring it to driving condition so that my wife and I could drive it in the Dubois-Wyoming Fourth of July parade down the main street of Dubois.
	So that's how I got into all of this, just intending to buy one tank to use to personally help celebrate the freedom of the United States.
	And when did you purchase that junked out Sherman?
	What year was that?
	2010.
	Oh my gosh, so recently, wow!
	Oh my gosh, so recently, wow.
	Yeah, yeah, and from 2010 until 2014, that was the only military vehicle I owned in 2014.
	I have to stop it because I want people to understand the gargantuan magnitude of what this man has done.
	And sit down if you're listening, okay, because you will fall down if you're standing up.
	So he had one tank that he was restoring from a junker, 2010 to 2014.
	It is now 2024, so that's a decade.
	That's a decade.
	You had one tank back then.
	How many tanks and other military vehicles Do you own inside the museum and in the storage facilities outside the actual display area?
	Today, 10 years later, Mr. Starks?
	Just over 500.
	Guys, you have to see them.
	They're immaculate.
	They could be, you know, you could smell the cosmoline if you weren't in a museum and see these.
	And how many of the ones that we saw, how many are on display inside the buildings that we walked through with you?
	229.
	Okay, 229.
	How many of those are functioning?
	At least 220.
	OK, 229. How many of those are functioning?
	At at least 220.
	There's just a handful that are not functioning.
	OK. And which foundation, which government entity funded this?
	How did you go from one tank to 500 vehicles?
	Whose money did you use?
	I used all my own money.
	So this, I invested well over a hundred million dollars of my personal funds to make this happen.
	Okay, so we haven't rehearsed any of this, I'm just going to jump straight in with this question.
	And God bless you for what you've done, because it is truly a stratospheric contribution to recognize the warfighters that have done so much to keep us safe over the centuries.
	How was that decision arrived at?
	When you say, oh, I want a tank so, you know, once a year we can parade it down the high street in Boise.
	What is that moment where you say, uh-huh, no, I'm going to build a museum with hundreds of vehicles?
	Or was it just an incremental growth?
	Or did you say, no, I'm doing this and I'm going to go big?
	From 2014 until 2016, I began increasing my collection to the point where in 2016, I decided to go big.
	increasing my collection to the point that I'm not going to be able to go big.
	In 2016, I'd had a number of people just anecdotally call me.
	They knew I had some military vehicles on my ranch.
	They'd ask if they could come see them.
	And those anecdotal calls increased to the level where I was hosting three different private visits a day, day after day, showing people my personal collection, which at the time consisted of about 30 vehicles.
	And the stories surrounding these vehicles, because that was really what drew people in.
	The initial bait was, can I see a tank?
	Can I climb in a tank?
	But then what made people stay and what made people come back and what made people bring children, grandchildren, veterans back was the stories of the history of American freedom and being able to really What was it like if you were one of those people inside one of these vehicles with your life at stake day after day after day?
	And so the way that that storytelling resonated with visitors motivated me to share this more broadly, to share it with the public, to create a public venue rather than just private vehicles on my private ranch.
	In 2016, I said, I'm going to create a museum.
	And everything since then is history.
	Absolutely stunning.
	What a story.
	If we had a few more hundred Daniel Starks, this nation would be absolutely fine.
	Go right now to the website nmmv.org that stands for National Museum of Military Vehicles.
	You need to visit this nmmv.org in Dubois, Wyoming.
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	Mr. Starks, you're not prior service.
	You've never worn the cloth of the Republic.
	So how does this begin?
	Is it a hobby with that one tank?
	Or do you say, okay, this is how I give back to our veterans?
	What's the logic behind what you've built in this incredible institution?
	It's exactly what you said in the second point.
	Since I did not serve in the military, and I always tell people if I did serve in the military, I never would have created this museum.
	In my experience, veterans are humble.
	They downplay the importance of their service.
	They don't brag about themselves.
	They don't brag about other veterans.
	It takes somebody like me who did not serve to give veterans their due without any conflict of interest and without having to hold back at all.
	So this is a way for me to give back.
	And I tell people that Here I came out of my schooling, I went into private business, I became very successful, while other people decided instead to serve their country.
	I made a lot of money in private business.
	People who instead decided to serve their country did not make a lot of business.
	Here's an opportunity for me to now give back to those who made it possible for me to be successful in business.
	But for the Americans who stepped up and served, I would not have had the freedom, I would not have had the quality of life, I would not have had the stability, the predictability to pursue medical device innovation to help save lives in that fashion.
	So to me, I've come full circle here at the end of my career to help give back.
	I could ask a very simple, prosaic question.
	How hard is it?
	you for what you're doing. We really thank you. I could ask a very simple
	prosaic question. How hard is it? I mean you've sunk a hundred million dollars of
	your own money into this, but just in a technical domain, because you say for
	example your first tank was was a Junker.
	How do you get?
	229 vehicles Into the condition they are today.
	And how do you find them to begin with you?
	You've got items We'll talk about one later on That I've never seen before and I'm a bit of a geek on this stuff.
	And you've got one thing that I don't think anybody else in the world has.
	So walk us through the logistical challenge of what you've built with the National Museum of Military Vehicles.
	One skill set I developed during my medical device career is the ability to solve problems.
	And so that's what has made it possible for me to be successful and successful in such a short period of time with this museum.
	I knew absolutely nothing about a museum.
	I mean nothing about a museum.
	I had no idea how big of an undertaking, how complicated of an undertaking I was embarking on.
	I had not had direct hands-on oversight of multiple major construction projects.
	And so again, that was new to me.
	But I was good at listening.
	I was good at learning.
	And I was good at being analytical and problem-solving.
	And so just a step at a time, this museum evolved into what it is today.
	So that's what I would say about the process of it and kind of The difficulty of it.
	It's amazing how much work there is behind the scenes and how many different subcontract specialties get brought into creating a project like this.
	We have tens of thousands of pages of specifications On every image, on every reader rail, on audio, on visual, on computer interactions, on images.
	And the amount of content research that I did to get smarter about the American experience in World War II, in Korea, in Vietnam, again, was just a tremendous undertaking.
	But it was all a labor of love.
	So although it was Extensive?
	It was fun extensive and helped me get out of bed every morning.
	And for example, you said as we were walking around with you for hours, one of your restoration and refurbishment shops is a company out of Europe?
	Yeah, we work with a very capable company, BAIV, a father-son owned and managed group of about 30 restorers and related technicians, and so they've been very helpful to us since 2018, restoring vehicles that I've sourced in Europe, for example, but then most of my restoration work is done in-house here.
	I have a 47,500 square foot restoration shop with eight restorers working full-time in it.
	We have 10 years of work ahead of us, but I've got a good team of people tackling projects depending on priority.
	So that's the trust here behind getting vehicles in good shape.
	And how large, we've mentioned the hundreds of vehicles you have in the museum and outside the museum, how large are the buildings that we walked through?
	The main museum building is 140,000 square feet under roof.
	A secondary building with some additional displays and with other museum capabilities is another 20,000 square feet.
	We additionally have an outdoor pavilion that we call our Veterans Pavilion that is under roof of another 25,000 square feet.
	We have room on this campus To put another building as large as 200,000 square feet, and I aspire to do that in the future, to continue our storytelling about the history of American freedom, particularly to talk about the Cold War, to talk about the Gulf Wars, to talk about the global war on terror, and hopefully to have room left over to talk about the history of American freedom that hasn't happened yet.
	And why Dubois, Wyoming?
	My wife and I came out here to retire, to get away from it all.
	We thought we might hide in the Rocky Mountains and just enjoy solitude and firearms freedom, beautiful scenery, enjoy the wildlife, and that worked as a pretty good retirement plan for a couple years, but then we ended up going nuts again and getting involved in the museum and in working cattle ranch, working buffalo ranch, and other businesses here in the local area.
	But once we came out here to retire and committed this is where we're going to live the rest of our lives, when we decided to do a museum, the museum had to be where we live.
	Now, Although on the one hand, it seems like we're out in the middle of nowhere, we're right next to Yellowstone National Park, Grand Teton National Park, two million acres of national forest.
	This is very much a tourist area.
	We get a million cars a year going down the road that passes right in front of the museum.
	So we're actually a surprising, we're a bit of a sleeper operation, but a surprisingly good location for a museum like ours.
	He is the founder, the president of the National Museum of Military Vehicles.
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	While we talk in the next segment, Eric, you can just go back to the B-roll of the museum.
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	and our little troop when we recently visited the National Museum of Military Vehicles.
	And it was stunning because...
	Uh, no.
	Not only were you completely knowledgeable about everything in the building, you put it all in the right historic context and then you added geopolitical analysis.
	And we'll get to that in the next segment when we talk about the industry, the arsenal of democracy that was America by the end of World War II.
	But one thing I'm stunned by is you didn't pull any punches.
	And there's this one moment where we're talking about Vietnam, and you're walking us through the various technological advancements, the four-gun recoilless rifle platform used by the Marines that was essential, and then we walked over to these two drums that were symbolizing Agent Orange, the defoliant that our government used in the jungle that caused illness for untold numbers of our veterans in Vietnam, and nothing sugar-coated.
	You're not political in a biased sense, and you told the tough stuff when it was necessary, and I just want to salute you for that, Mr. Starks.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Seb.
	That story of Agent Orange is one of the darkest chapters in the history of American freedom.
	And to me, it's absolutely critical to make sure that that story does not get swept under the rug, that that story isn't forgotten about.
	We've got to do a better job of safeguarding our veterans and making sure that things like what we did to our veterans and then the way we abandoned them after they were injured through their exposure to Agent Orange just does
	not happen again.
	If we don't take better care of our veterans, Americans are going to quit
	being willing to step up and serve in future wars and so this this is not just a matter of
	the right thing to do.
	It's not just a matter of personal ethics to have the disinfectant of daylight on the story of Agent Orange, but it's also in our self-interest.
	I won't stay free unless Americans are willing to continue to step up and serve, and they won't serve if we abuse them when they do so.
	And at the end of that display, we were looking at the Brownwater Navy patrol boats just a moment ago.
	You have a tableau of all the figures, of not just the dead and wounded, but everybody else who was affected by the Vietnam War.
	And one thing you said that changed my life.
	And I knew that our GIs had been mistreated when they came home, spat on, called baby killers and what have you.
	And you gave me a piece of advice.
	You gave all of us a piece of advice.
	You said, our men were not welcomed home.
	And if you meet a Vietnam War vet, say to them, welcome home.
	And I thought, Is that tacky?
	Can I do that?
	And literally three weeks later, I was on a speaking engagement in Sioux Falls, and they sent one of the organizers to pick me up, who turned out to be a Vietnam veteran.
	And I used that phrase to this gentleman who's, you know, late 70s.
	I said, welcome home, sir.
	And he was very grateful that I said that.
	And I'm grateful to you, Daniel Starks, for giving me the gumption to do that.
	The legacy of our Vietnam veterans is really widely misunderstood here in the United States.
	So that's one of our major goals is to Is to educate more Americans, particularly younger Americans, but older Americans as well on on the legacy that our Vietnam veterans created.
	They were not appreciated in their time.
	What they accomplished is mostly not really understood.
	The price they paid is underestimated.
	And so that this is the part of the museum that is most important to me on an emotional basis is to do the best we can here To honor our Vietnam veterans, to talk about every single one of them came home a battlefield winner.
	Sometimes people refer to Vietnam veterans as having lost the war.
	That absolutely is a false narrative.
	The fact that the United States decided to withdraw from Vietnam.
	Took nothing away from the battlefield valor and battlefield victories of our Vietnam veterans any more than withdrawing from Afghanistan took away from the battlefield success of our Afghanistan veterans.
	So that's the first thing is every single Vietnam veteran came home a battlefield winner.
	And they paid a higher price as a whole than any other group of veterans have in the entire history of the United States.
	We calculate about a one-third casualty rate for our Vietnam veterans, and nobody is thinking like that.
	But when you add Just over 58,000 names on the Vietnam Memorial Wall, and add another 153,000 Vietnam veterans wounded in action on the battlefield severely enough to be hospitalized, and then add to that more than 650,000 Agent Orange casualties, many of whom died, none of whom are remembered on the Vietnam Memorial Wall.
	Many of whom, if they did not die as a result of their exposure to Agent Orange, were at least as severely debilitated in their health as anyone who received a Purple Heart for being wounded in action in combat.
	Those Agent Orange casualties have to be added.
	To our casualty count and then of course the final category would be post-traumatic stress casualties.
	A lot of those casualties lost their lives because of their post-traumatic stress, committing suicide, self-medicating with drugs or alcohol.
	Others have had their life, their quality of life impacted every bit as much as anyone who received a Purple Heart for a combat battlefield injury.
	We have to include our post-traumatic stress casualties.
	And when you add all those four categories of casualties together, we, and conservatively, we could support a much higher number.
	Vietnam veterans as a group suffered between 1.1 and 1.2 million casualties.
	Out of 3.4 million Americans deployed to all of Southeast Asia in the 20 years ending with our evacuation from the American Embassy April 30th of 1975.
	That's a one-third casualty rate.
	No group of American veterans have paid a higher price than our Vietnam veterans did to come home battlefield winners.
	If you meet one, Tell them.
	Welcome home.
	We're talking to Daniel Starks, founder and president of the National Museum of Military Vehicles.
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	I have to say, I'm very grateful to you, Daniel Starks, because I have a really good excuse now.
	I'm into guns.
	I've got several hundred of them.
	And if my wife has an issue with me buying a new one, I'm saying, I say, Katie, it could be worse.
	I could have hundreds of tanks instead.
	So you've made my life a lot easier, and I appreciate that.
	Thank you, Mr. Starks.
	It's not just, however, about the acquisition of hardware.
	I mean, incredibly impressive as your museum is, it's also about the context of not only what we did in World War II, and I understand, we think of the Normandy beaches, we think of everything that was done by those very young men to liberate the world, not just Europe, from the scourge of Nazism and Imperial Japan's threat to Asia as well.
	But the story of whether it's Overlord, whether it's the Battle of the Bulge, it doesn't happen, isn't possible without, of course, the bravery, the valor of our GIs, our airmen, our Marines, our sailors, our submariners.
	But also without what has been termed the arsenal of democracy.
	And you stopped for one of the longest moments during our visit in front of a massive photograph of various factories in America that were churning out the vehicles, the munitions, the weaponry, that was needed to win the war against the Third Reich and
	Imperial Japan.
	Will you explain this thing that is forgotten all too easily, and just the sheer, mind-numbing numbers
	of what was achieved by America during those years?
	There is no message more important than this message that you're asking me to elaborate on here
	through everything that we show at the museum.
	There are other important messages, but no message more important than this one.
	Everybody creates a stockpile of military equipment during peacetime.
	Once countries enter a state of total war, as we did in World War II, and as every other participant in World War II did, Countries burn through those pre-existing stockpiles at very high rates, putting pressure on resupply.
	Can you replace what you used on the battlefield?
	In modern warfare, to replace what you used on the battlefield, you have to manufacture it.
	So our major theme, one of our major themes is to help people understand the connection between American manufacturing and American military capability.
	In World War II, What we had going for us more than any other thing is we dominated global manufacturing.
	We had by far the largest manufacturing economy in the world.
	We also had the most innovative, most productive manufacturing economy in the world.
	And that, more than any other single factor, in addition to the will of the American people and sacrifice of the American people, is what made the war end so quickly once we geared up and let us prevail with relatively few casualties in relation to other participants who did not have dominant global manufacturing.
	To give you an idea of of the impact of our manufacturing.
	In the 12 months leading up to Pearl Harbor, the entire United States manufactured only 12,000 aircraft, both civilian and military.
	In the next three years, the United States manufactured 300,000 aircraft.
	And a lot of the first part of that next three years was consumed by needing to build new factories.
	One of the famous accomplishments on the aviation side is represented by one of the images that you saw, Mr. Gorka, which was the Ford Motor Company Willow Run Manufacturing Facility.
	That became the largest, the longest assembly line in the world, more than one mile long.
	That factory that was built on bare dirt during World War II came to produce one B-24 Liberator bomber every single hour.
	And that kind of manufacturing capability played out in every major class of weapon system and military supply.
	Chrysler Motor Company, for example, staffed the Detroit tank arsenal and came to mass-produce Sherman tanks.
	We manufactured about 54,000 Sherman tanks.
	We didn't even have a design for the Sherman tank at the outset of World War II.
	Kaiser shipyards became the most prolific shipbuilders.
	Kaiser created brand new shipyards on the Pacific coast, on the Gulf coast, and on the Atlantic coast.
	Prior to World War II, Kaiser had never made a ship.
	During World War II, Kaiser and others Manufactured 124,000 ships.
	And if you start to translate these kinds of just statistics to the battlefield, for example, in the fighting against the Japanese at the Battle of Coral Sea in May of 1942, we had only four aircraft carriers in our Pacific fleet.
	The Japanese sunk one.
	The next month at the Battle of Midway, we had three aircraft carriers remaining.
	The Japanese sunk one.
	We're down to two aircraft carriers.
	We're sinking Japanese aircraft carriers, too.
	They had many tens of aircraft carriers at this point in the war.
	But the difference between what happened in Japan and what happened in the United States is we manufactured more than a hundred new aircraft carriers during World War II, including escort carriers.
	The Japanese struggled To manufacture more than one or two new fleet carriers.
	And so their capability withered while every time they sank one of our ships, we replaced it with 10.
	The same thing happened with tanks.
	The same thing happened with two and a half ton trucks.
	The same thing happened with 155 millimeter artillery shells, for example.
	And so once we transitioned our economy from manufacturing consumer goods to instead manufacturing military equipment, We provided a crushing superiority of equipment in every theater of war, and the war was over just over a year after we brought this crushing production to bear on the battlefield.
	So we don't learn about this in school.
	The media doesn't cover it.
	A lot of our political leadership doesn't understand it, but there is an absolutely critical, unavoidable connection
	between manufacturing and military capability on the battlefield.
	It's as true today as it was in the 1940s.
	The only difference today is we don't dominate anymore.
	And so one has to ask, what would stop China from doing to us what we did to Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan if we get into a war with China, whether it's over illegal islands, illegally claiming more territorial waters and natural resources, or whether it's over Taiwan.
	And there's not a good answer to that.
	We're asleep at the switch on the unintended consequence of outsourcing American manufacturing over the last four or five decades.
	And so I'm a little bit like Paul Revere raising the alarm to say, hey, If we don't do something differently, we're going to have to all start learning the Chinese languages.
	And let's not put ourselves in that position.
	We need to restore strong American manufacturing, not just for purposes of the American economy, but to safeguard American freedom.
	Yeah, and as I mentioned at the time, while you were standing in front of those massive photographs of those incredible industrial facilities, I said, there's one person in politics who understands very well what you're saying, and that's my former boss, President Trump.
	He gets it that we cannot be dependent On communist dictatorships like China for our basic essentials, even steel.
	How would we win a new war if we can't manufacture our own steel?
	And I think he made a comment about that just two days ago during one of his rallies.
	We're talking to Daniel Starks, the founder of the incredible National Museum of Military Vehicles.
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	I just have to relate this funny story as I was finishing our amazing tour with Mr. Starks.
	Having served in the British Army, the Territorial Army Reserves, I like the kit we use there.
	I love the FN FAL battle rifle.
	I like the Sterling submachine gun.
	I love my Browning High Powers.
	And then I said to Mr. Starks, you know, if you really do expand this museum to go beyond Korea and Vietnam and World War I and World War II, and if you talk about the Cold War, you've got to get a Challenger tank, because those British tanks with the Cobham armor, they're pretty good.
	What does he reply?
	Oh, don't worry.
	I've got two already.
	That's how serious this man is.
	It is the National Museum of Military Vehicles.
	Go to nmmv.org.
	Mr. Starks, I'm so glad you're sitting in front of the chart that I photographed.
	I have the full chart because it's... I think it's the most important part of the museum.
	Will you explain what the liberation chart is and why you put it up at the end of our tour?
	We're pushing back against a faction of educators who want to erase American history, who want to revise American history, and who want to teach young Americans to be ashamed of the United States.
	And so here is a truth about American exceptionalism.
	That people don't know.
	This is our original research.
	We showed our work so everyone can check our facts.
	And it's remarkable that the United States is the only country in the history of the world to have liberated more than 475 million other people from foreign occupation or from subjugation by an armed minority.
	And immediately returned that liberated country to self-government.
	And our definition of liberation was the most conservative definition.
	It was American boots on the ground.
	It wasn't things like in the Cold War, our efforts contributed to the fall of the Iron Curtain.
	We didn't send American boots on the ground.
	We don't claim we liberated Eastern Europe.
	So it had to be American boots on the ground.
	Number one, we had to directly throw out the foreign occupier, or in the case of Iraq and Panama, the armed minority.
	And then immediately return the country to self-government.
	So if there was a step in between, as there was with a lot of liberated countries at the end of World War II, a lot of those liberated countries, a number of them, returned to colonial status.
	We didn't claim them.
	So this is just the most pristine black and white definition of liberation.
	And there's something special about Americans.
	There's something special about the United States that it was worth our while.
	And no one else has ever found it worth their while to liberate this many other people and deliver freedom to them.
	And so our conclusion is, here's an example of American exceptionalism, and there's no objective way to undercut it.
	There's something special about the United States.
	And what's that total again?
	400.
	What was the total again?
	Over 475 million.
	And then add to that the hundreds of millions more where we have protected freedom.
	They never became occupied, like the UK during World War II.
	Add to that our humanitarian missions.
	Add to that our peacekeeping missions.
	And again, there's just something special about Americans, something special about our values, about our way of life, about our system of government.
	All right, one last question.
	Let's get back to the geeky tech stuff.
	The piece of equipment, I'm going to ask you what piece of equipment you're most proud of, but the one that kind of blew me away because I hadn't even heard about it is this incredibly fragile tin can item that was used to fly into the middle of Allied squadrons and then launch rockets into them in a last-ditch effort to save the Third Reich.
	Why is this stubby-winged little manned rocket, why has this got a special place in space technology history, Mr. Starks?
	NASA refers to this experimental German weapon system as providing the dawn of manned spaceflight.
	The weapon system sounds nuts, sounds like a suicide mission, but actually these were very sound, very innovative concepts that were improved to put Americans in space.
	It all started with this experimental German weapon system.
	And how many of them are there in the world, like yours?
	Only 36 prototypes were created.
	I'm only aware of one other example on display.
	So we are one of only two or one of maybe there's a third one I don't know about, but very rare.
	Alright, I'm impressed at that piece of German desperation that of course didn't help them to win the war the good guys won in the end.
	Can I ask you, out of the 500 vehicles you have, which is the one you would save if there was only one you could take with you?
	It's a little bit like asking a parent to name a favorite child.
	So my official answer is always that I don't have a favorite, but Anything that has a particular human connection, it means more to me.
	And so one of the most mundane items here, a German hedgehog beach obstacle that is in our amphibious combat assault diorama, is special to me because it was recovered from Utah Beach.
	It was actually on Utah Beach, June 6, 1944, when we landed in Normandy.
	And so that makes it especially near and dear to me.
	Wow, incredible.
	All right, everyone, the balloon has gone up.
	I offer you this challenge.
	You need to, in the next 12 months, visit this facility and bang the gong as loud as you can.
	You will not regret it.
	It is a tribute to all those who have died for us, have bled for us, and today stand on the wall for us.
	Daniel Starks, National Museum of Military Vehicles, the website nmmv.org.
	You've been listening to a very special episode of America First One-on-One.

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