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Greetings dear friends.
Who is my former boss, Donald J. Trump?
Bye.
There was a man at his rally in New York who wished to share a personal story about who President Donald Trump really is.
I have an amazing story to tell you real quick about what President Trump's father, Fred Trump, did for myself, for my brother, for my sister, for my mother.
1974, my dad suffered a major heart attack.
I went to the same school as Donald Trump, the Kew Forest School.
Three days after my father's burial, there was a knock on the door one school morning, 7 a.m.
I answered the door.
It was a distinguished gentleman.
I was 10 years old.
My father just died.
Gentleman said, kid, call your mom.
I called my mom from upstairs.
She came down.
Gentleman said to my mom, I am Fred Trump, Donald's father.
And my mom says, yes, I know Donald went to the Kew Forest School.
And Mr. Fred Trump said to my mom, yes, Mrs. Revin, very sorry about Joseph's death.
And what you don't know is I'm still on the board of trustees at the Kew Forest School.
And this morning, I let headmaster Mr. Philip Rogers know that from this day forward, myself, Fred Trump, out of my own pocket, is going to pay for your three children's tuition because I don't want the kids have to go back into the public school system.
Thanks to his son, Fred Trump did that for that young boy and his two brothers.
Jeff, that clip, that heartfelt clip, that gentleman has been interviewed by CNN and MSNBC, correct?
No, you'll never hear from him again.
Wow.
I'm shocked.
I'm shocked.
You will never hear those stories.
Why?
Because they humanize President Trump.
A man who, well, he fights for you.
How much so?
What politician would say the following?
Cut Eight was yesterday, wasn't it, Jeff, at that event that the President had, that roundtable?
Yeah, in Pennsylvania.
Okay, so John Deere, big, big American company, famous company, historic company, a company that went woke recently, went left-wing, went all diversity, equity, inclusion, until Robbie Starbuck got on the case and said, you don't want to do that.
And he gave us all the details last week in our hour-long interview with him.
President Trump Had a message for that company by name.
And it goes to that clip about the Trump ethos of doing things for the other, doing things for your fellow American.
Listen to what President Trump told this historic company just yesterday.
Cut it.
I just noticed behind me John Deere tractors.
I know a lot about John Deere.
I love the company, but as you know they've announced a few days ago that they're going to move a lot of their manufacturing business to Mexico.
I'm just notifying John Deere right now.
If you do that, we're putting a 200% tariff on everything that you want to sell into the United States, so that if I win, John Deere is going to be paying a 200%.
They haven't started it yet, maybe they haven't even made the final decision yet, but I think they have.
John Deere is going to, and anybody else that does this, because it's hurting our farmers, it's hurting our manufacturing.
Jeff, what other politician of any party would make a public statement like that?
That is the best part of it, too.
I love that, too.
And he's exactly, he's dead serious, too.
That's the other part.
Oh yeah, because he did it!
He did it!
He told Ford, he told everyone else, you want to take American jobs to Mexico?
Boom!
100% tariff, 200% tariff.
And what happened?
Oh!
They opened those factories in America instead.
Eric, what do you think the C-suite executives at John Deere, Ford, GM, what do you think they're thinking right now after yesterday?
I imagine they just got done wiping their brows after dealing with Robbie Starbuck and then President Trump comes along and basically just kicks down the door and says, my turn!
Yeah, it's, how is this even a thing?
Why would you take jobs away from Americans?
Why would you do that?
What kind of quote-unquote American company with the history of John Deere?
How can you think that's okay?
Beggar's belief.
In the meantime, what is the other candidate doing?
These events are so funny, so amusing.
The annual Al Smith White Tie Dinner that is ostensibly organized by the Catholic Church.
And it's really a very fancy roast.
If you haven't seen what President Trump said about Hillary Clinton back in 2016, I think it was 2016, with Maria Bartiromo standing right behind President Trump.
You need to go off after the show because we've got three hours of an amazing programming for you and watch that video.
But for some reason, I guess she's too busy not doing anything, Kamala Harris is not attending and it's the first time ever since I think the 80s that both presidential candidates aren't attending the Al Smith dinner and God bless Cardinal Dolan who um he's a tough guy and he's speaking out publicly about that decision and maybe she'll change her mind.
Cut 11.
We're disappointed.
We were looking forward to giving the Vice President an enthusiastic welcome.
And we were confident that she would find this.
You know, she speaks very much about the high ideals and how it's good to get away from division and come together in unity and all.
That's what the A.L.
Smith dinner is all about.
We haven't given up yet.
We're not used to this.
We don't know how to handle it.
This hasn't happened in 40 years since Walter Mondale turned down the invitation.
Remember, he lost 49 out of 50 states.
I don't want to say there's a direct connection there.
So we're not used to this.
And we're not giving up.
You know who's been a help to us, Lauren?
It's Senator Schumer and Governor Hochul.
They both are working hard to see that they convince her to come.
So there's still a chance?
Yeah, and Senator Schumer said to me, he said, I don't think she made the decision.
I think her schedule is at odds with our state.
She can't make it.
So we're not giving up.
We hope she's here.
Wow, that's a Cardinal.
Jeff, I know you're making your way back to the One True Church, so I gotta get your take on this.
Are you impressed that a sitting Cardinal just said, you know, the last Democrat to not come to the Al Smith dinner was creamed by Ronald Reagan in a 49 to 1 landslide?
Are you surprised a Catholic Cardinal said that?
I was surprised he was as aggressive as he was, but there is no way Cardinal is doing that.
No way?
It's a roast.
She's not funny.
Number two, you have to sit there for 15 minutes and you have to laugh while the other person making jokes about you.
You won't think they want their cackle, that cackle, for 15 minutes.
That's why she's not doing it.
Because she's not funny and because she doesn't have a sense of humor and she can't take the roast?
Yes, and then she can't laugh because her laugh is the biggest thing that they try to act like doesn't happen.
Eric, is she gonna go?
Absolutely not.
Like Jeff said, it's a double-edged sword.
A. Her own jokes aren't funny.
B. She cannot handle legitimate criticism, let alone good-humored roasts.
Alex, is she going to change her mind?
Is she going to go or not?
Is she going to run and hide like Biden?
If she gets within five feet of that cardinal, she's going to start melting.
There's no way she's going to.
I'm melting!
I'm melting!
Guy, is she going to change her mind?
Is she going to go?
Yes, sir.
Let's see what happens later.
We've got a new diplomat.
It's not just Alex anymore.
Now we've got Guy.
Let's see what happens.
Indeed, is she going to burst into flames if she arrives at that Catholic-organized dinner?
Oh dear, oh dear.
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Ooh, dear.
That was good.
Something else, Geoff.
Bursted to flame, Alex.
Not very diplomatic of you there, Alex.
What happened?
Did you get a double ice brew today?
Only one cup today, actually.
Geoff wants to know if you want to take line three, by the way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Give me line three.
Mic's up.
Mic's are hot.
Hello, who's this?
I was going to say the Bible was bullshit.
I can't understand what you're saying.
Your accent is a little bit too stupid for me.
Can you try speaking in English without that stupid fake accent?
Hey, Uncle Jesse.
Bang that banjo.
Try again.
One more time.
Try speaking in English.
Try it one more time.
I'm from America.
Just one more time.
Try it one more time.
Go ahead.
Say I am not stupid.
Just try and say that.
We'll see if it's serious.
Just try it one more time.
I'll give you one more chance.
Failed!
Goodbye.
You could hear the accent break several times.
Like when he used the very impolite word, you could very briefly hear the southern accent break.
I think it was Miranda who actually pointed out on Twitter that polling shows Kamala is also down big among Catholics.
Oh, really?
I didn't see that.
Oh yeah, down by like double digits.
And that's another historical trend.
Whoever wins the Catholic vote usually wins the general election.
Oh, you want the mics out?
Come in with cut one, then I'll do Patriot Mobile, then I'll go to Miranda.
Hello, Miranda!
The mics are hot.
Hello, Mr. Gorka.
How are you?
It's been too long.
Far too long.
It has.
I know.
It has.
Have I actually seen you since that dinner in Sydney?
I think we have seen each other in America, yes.
Okay, good.
You know what Chris Plant, my friend, said of you on air this morning, and I had to immediately text him and correct him?
What?
He said, that woman's British accent.
Ah!
Outrageous!
I told him, that is not what you want to say to Miranda.
Alright, do we have the image of the book, Eric?
Yeah, one second.
Oh, yep, there it is.
The big guy.
The big guy.
Okay, good.
And then is it true that your window closes so you can't come on Newsmax Thursday but you'll have another window in October?
Exactly.
I've got today and then I've got a week, October 14.
But that's nuts!
The old contracts used to give you two weeks when the book was launched.
Yeah, well, the thing is, because I'm doing Tucker, I asked for that week.
Oh, I see.
Got it.
Got it, got it.
All right, well then, we'll book you for Newsmax the week of whatever it was.
You said the 14th or something?
14th, yeah.
Good, good, good, good.
All right, well, you look wonderful.
The book looks good.
The book was out today, right?
Or yesterday?
Out today, yeah.
Perfect.
All right, stand by.
And did you see?
What?
Did you see Donald Trump?
Yes!
On Truth Social?
On Truth Social.
I will send it to you now.
Text it to me, that'd be great.
Alright, 30 seconds, stand by.
Patriot.
Patriot.
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You So in this purported letter, the FBI says Ruth was motivated to kill Trump because he believed the former president was unfit and destructive to America's moral fabric.
Does that sound familiar?
The American people must decide whether Donald Trump's assault on our democracy on January 6th makes him unfit for public office.
I've been saying for now well over a year He is not fit to serve.
Donald Trump is not fit to do the job of president, be the commander-in-chief.
And he literally is putting to the test this invisible moral fabric.
Hang on a second.
The big guy is using language that was then used by Ryan Routh, the second would-be assassin?
Huh.
That's interesting, isn't it?
It's as if the rhetoric of the White House and the Democrat Party is leading to the use of deadly violence against the leader of the opposition.
We will dissect with a wonderful woman who knows a thing or two about the big guy in a moment.
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She is the lady who brought us the truth about the laptop from hell.
And now...
Her brand new book released today, The Big Guy, How a President and His Son Sold Out America.
We're delighted to have with us Miranda Devine.
Miranda, welcome back to America First.
Thanks for having me, Sebastian.
Alright, so is it true my former boss gave your book a bit of a shout-out already on its first day?
He did!
That was incredibly generous of him.
Yes, President Donald Trump posted a truth social saying it was a great book and that people should go out and buy it.
So I was very grateful for that.
Now, you make a very bold statement, I'd like you to explore it for the next five minutes and then we'll keep you over for the next segment as well.
In a kind of analogue to the Watergate scandal, it's not the crimes committed By the Biden crime cartel.
But the real story is the cover-up.
And you say the combined cover-up of the FBI, the CIA, the Department of Justice, the Department of State, and the IRS to protect the Biden family.
Is that the main thesis of your book, The Big Guy?
Yes, it is, because the first book, Laptop from Hell, was the sort of definitive story of the corruption that was shown in Hunter Biden's abandoned laptop, the sort of influence peddling scheme that the Bidens had been carrying on for decades, actually, out of Delaware.
And then when Joe Biden was vice president, he internationalized it.
They made millions of dollars from China and Russia and Ukraine and so on.
But what happened when we at the New York Post first published those stories from that laptop, which Rudy Giuliani had given us a copy of the hard drive, when we first started publishing stories, we were immediately censored by social media, by Twitter and Facebook.
And then 51 former intelligence officials, including five former CIA directors or acting directors, A couple of days later wrote a dishonest letter falsely claiming that the laptop and our stories were Russian disinformation.
So we knew there was something fishy going on that was beyond the usual protection by the Democratic Party of their candidate.
This was something more sinister.
And as the years have gone by, what we've discovered in part thanks to very courageous whistleblowers and also because the Republicans ...roll of Congress after the 2022 midterms, and they had used their subpoena power to investigate the money trail going to the Bidens, but also to look at some of the cover-up that was going on.
And so we know now, and plus thanks to Elon Musk and the Twitter files, that it was the FBI that pre-bunked our story to the social media giants, to Twitter and Facebook in the weeks and months before the 2020 election.
So that they said, you know, that expect there to be a hack and leak operation from a foreign actor, Russia, probably or likely in October and likely involving Hunter Biden.
And so, of course, when Twitter and Facebook saw our story on October 14, 2020, the first one in the New York Post, they immediately recognized it for what the FBI had warned them against and they censored it.
And what none of us knew at the time, not even Rudy Giuliani knew, was that he was being spied on.
His iCloud was being spied on with a secret warrant by the FBI.
Trying to catch him out, I think, in foreign agent violations.
They never charged him with anything.
But at the time, he was President Trump's personal lawyer.
And so you remember at the time the FBI was conducting this Russia, Russia hoax against Donald Trump, there was a real deep state sabotage operation going on.
And we presume, and Rudy Giuliani and his lawyer, Bob Costello, presume that This warrant, this spying on his iCloud was part of that.
So, of course, the spies would have seen in August of 2020 an email that came to Rudy Giuliani from the owner of a laptop repair shop in Delaware who had a Hunter Biden's abandoned MacBook Pro.
And he'd looked at it after Hunter had not picked it up and not paid his bill and found alarming evidence on there of what he thought were crimes.
And so He sent it to Rudy Giuliani, Rudy Giuliani's lawyer, Bob Costello.
And also the FBI, since they had Rudy Giuliani's iCloud monitored, they would have seen messages between me and Rudy, just not saying very much, just along the lines of, look, you know, we're very interested at the New York Post.
Please don't give the story to anyone else.
So they knew what was coming.
So they were well prepared to pre-bunk the story.
And the same goes for those 51 dirty intelligence officials.
We know now that there was more to that letter than we originally thought.
For instance, Antony Blinken, now the Secretary of State, then a senior adviser for Joe Biden,
he reached out from the campaign to Mike Morrell, former acting director of the CIA, and put
the idea in his head to write that letter and get 50 colleagues to sign off.
And we know- Hold the story right there, and I'm going to use it with your permission.
I love this label, the Dirty 51.
We're going to continue with Miranda Devine.
The book is out today!
President Trump has already endorsed it on Truth Social.
We'll share that with you in a moment.
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I don't get, and I'm so glad you brought up Blinken and, you know, Michael Morell.
I'll mention the truth social endorsement and I'll read it on air.
Okay. After the pillow? Yeah, my pillow. So I gotta ask you this question Miranda. I don't get,
and I'm so glad you brought up Blinken and the, you know, Michael Morell. Blinken,
whenever I see him in public, seems like this guy who couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery,
but he's this seminal figure?
He just looks like this twit.
Well, I mean, of course he is, because anyone associated with Joe Biden is going to be a twit, because Joe Biden's a twit.
But I keep looking for this, you know, super operative, sharp individual behind the scenes, like, you know, the Axelrod to Obama.
And this guy's pathetic!
I think that was Tom Donilon and, you know, those guys.
And I mean, he's gone now.
But I think, look, Antony Blinken was a junior staffer who really impressed Joe Biden because he had a big Ivy League education.
He'd grown up in Paris and he was the sort of, you know, a feat diplomat that Joe Biden aspires to be, I guess.
Yeah, I knew his dad.
His dad was the Clinton donor who was made ambassador to Budapest when I lived there.
Stepfather, yeah.
A stepfather, yeah.
And like a super rich, I mean, just... Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He'd been a JFK advisor, I think.
Right.
At some point.
Can you show me the true social post?
There we go.
Good.
All right.
I'll read that on air.
And then I'm going to ask you one question because it's a shorter segment.
I want to ask you how any of this translates or is relevant to Kamala.
Great.
Who's the publisher?
HarperCollins.
Nice.
Do send me a signed copy, please.
I will.
Text your address.
I will.
And send me yours, and I'll send you a signed copy of Katie's brand new book that you will enjoy.
Oh, show me.
Next Gen Marx.
Oh, yes.
That looks good.
I've actually seen that on the Amazon list.
That looks great.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll ask her to send a signed one.
So otherwise, things are good?
Yeah, things are great.
They're fabulous.
Good.
New York's getting lovely and cool now.
Not cool, but it's not humid.
It's just beautiful weather.
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Is the Alien one any good?
It's got decent reviews.
Yeah, it's got decent reviews.
Okay.
I'm actually watching at the moment, I've got a preview of Justin Wells, Tucker's EP's fantastic new documentary on Donald Trump called After the Siege or something.
Oh, wow.
Anyway, no, The Surge, something about The Surge behind The Surge or something.
Anyway, they had the most amazing behind the scenes access to the Butler assassination attempt.
Well, I'm not familiar, will you connect us?
I will, yeah.
All right, stand by.
It's really good.
No, no.
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Well, I think what we've seen is this book is really about the cover up.
We know about the corruption of the Biden family that's been well aired and the laptop contained a lot of that.
But what we see is that the CIA, the FBI, the State Department, the Department of Justice, the IRS, at every stage of the way, they protected Joe Biden and Hunter Biden.
Because that's what the Deep State does.
We'll continue our discussion with Miranda Devine in a moment.
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We are back with the author, out today, of the book you must get, The Big Guy, How a President and His Son Sold Out America.
And why do you have to get it?
Well, because President Trump says so.
Here is his endorsement just today on Truth Social.
Wow, with a capital G, the great Miranda Devine.
Understood the harsh reality of the laptop from hell before the fake news media would even acknowledge its existence.
Now Miranda has written another blockbuster, The Big Guy.
Get it today.
Make America great again.
Miranda, I'm annoyed at you because you have removed from your bio on Twitter the fact that you are a sci-fi geek.
I don't know why you did that.
Maybe it's because there are no Decent sci-fi movies being made at the moment, or very few of them, but we can discuss that offline.
Let's get to the crux of the matter.
The big guy is out.
He's toast.
He has ceased to be like a certain parrot from the Monty Python sketch.
Kamala is the anointed candidate.
So explain to us why what you have uncovered from the laptop to the big guy is still more relevant than ever as we stand 42 days before this election.
Well, for one simple reason, which is the very people who covered up Joe Biden's corruption and then his senility are the very same people who are propping up Kamala Harris today.
And you saw just this week that letter written by 741 senior national security officials, shades of the dirty 51, endorsing Kamala Harris as the stronger and more capable of the two candidates to be commander in chief, which is a complete joke.
But, you know, nine of those 741 overlap. They were also the Dirty 51, including Leon Panetta,
former CIA director, who shows no shame. None of the nine have any shame about the fact
that they misled the American people in the 2020 election, possibly altering the outcome
of that election in order to get their favoured candidate over the line and to ensure that
Donald Trump didn't win the election because Donald Trump, to them, to these shady
figures in the deep state, They see him as an existential threat, not to America, not
to democracy, but to their power, their control of the American agenda, particularly
the foreign policy agenda.
And you know, that's because Donald Trump is a property developer from Queens.
He treats all problems in the presidency, including foreign relations, like from first
principles as a sensible, logical way of how do you most effectively fix this problem.
And under him, we had peace breakout in the Middle East.
We had Iran on its knees.
We had no invasions by Russia.
And ISIS was kaput.
And under Joe Biden, we know what's happened.
The world is on fire.
And that's because he is the puppet of these shadowy forces who are now propping up Kamala Harris.
And her running mate, Tim Walz, who was really playing the role of Joe Biden in the Obama administration because he, like Joe Biden, is completely captured by the Chinese.
He, like Joe Biden, as a young politician, went to China, got co-opted, came back, waxed lyrical.
Joe Biden waxed lyrical so much about the marvels of the CCP that the Weekly Standard, I think, put him on the cover and they mocked him mercilessly.
But he's been doing China's bidding ever since and so has Tim Walz.
And so that's what we'll see.
And Kamala Harris has been endorsed by these bad actors the same way that Joe Biden was.
So it'll be situation normal, only worse, because she is a far left radical, as you
know, and Joe Biden was only playing one.
I think we need to nominate a certain Ms.
Devine for anti-Deep State Tsarina in the Trump administration.
In the meantime, at Miranda Devine on Twitter, NewYorkPost.com, NYPost.com, and the book is The Big Guy.
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No, she's gone.
She's gone, okay.
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Something that incorporates the title of a book, for sure.
Yeah.
So, something like, uh... Um... The Big Guy is Still Guilty, or something like that?
Don't forget the big guy's crimes.
Something like that.
Yeah, that's good.
Don't forget the big guy's crimes.
Don't forget the big guy's crimes.
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And then I'll do PhD.
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I'll come on 12, then PhD, then line one.
And the monologue?
Um...
The real reason Kamala won't attend the Auspeth dinner.
Yes, good.
Thank you.
You see all the stuff that Google and Facebook and all what they got caught cheating on the last election, the bad things they did, the 51 agents and all of the stuff.
The laptop, remember, it was Russia.
It was Russia, Russia, Russia.
Now it was Hunter, Hunter, Hunter, as we said.
And they affected, you know, they affected the election very much.
They came out many, many points.
Many 11 points, 12 points.
But that's what we have.
And we can never let that happen again.
And I said, we're going to go after anybody that gets caught cheating on the election.
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Line 1, Sean, New York City.
Dr. Gorka, you know, as we know, our great President Trump has said, if you go woke, everything turns to a four-letter word that begins with S. So I'm proposing Operation Enema.
Operation Enema will pulverize the Democrat Party once and for all.
The first prong is that the people who come in here illegally, and we know that most of them are not legitimate asylees, When we do the mass deportation, we bring back indentured servitude.
Send them to the wall to build the wall.
After five years, if they have a clean background, they can get a green card, but they can never vote because they're never going to become citizens because they broke the law.
If they want to become citizens, got to go to the back of the line like everybody else who's been waiting over a decade.
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And you must replace our current social safety net with Workfare for our American citizens and permanent residents.
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And that is how you pulverize the Democrat Party, because their business model is based on freebies.
And when you cut the incentive for people to come here, they're going to stop coming here.
Yeah, the only issue is you're not really giving them an enema because you're not dealing with the deep state.
You're all talking about stuff that's economically related.
I'm not sure we could legally institute indentured servitude, although everybody who comes here as an illegal is a criminal.
But I like most of what you've said, not all of it, but then we have to tack on what we're going to do with the deep state.
If you missed it, You've got to listen to our hour-long interview with Kash Patel last week for the details on how we destroy the deep state.
Thank you, Sean.
Let's go to Florida.
Rain, line two.
Hello.
Hello.
Can you hear me?
Okay.
I just wanted to mention to all the communist idolaters out there, however you say that, why do you want communism if If we had communism, we would have nothing left.
Literally.
They would take it all, they'd kill us all.
I don't understand you people who love that ideology.
It's hell.
Well, because they know nothing about real communism.
They don't know that it's cost the lives of a hundred million people in the last century.
They think it's about equality reign.
Oh, okay.
So they're brainwashed, I see.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I mean, otherwise, why would you agree with an ideology that cost the lives of a hundred million people?
Okay, well I just wanted to send a message to Kamala if she can hear this.
Hey Kamala, you know God gives us all a chance to change our ways, do better, and improve the lives of others surrounding us.
Take this message, I hope it gets to you, because not many people pray for their enemies, but I pray that you will see the light, and you will see how important this election really is, and if you choose to do evil, And continue to do evil, even if you did win, then you're going to be condemned for eternity.
Is that really worth it?
No money is worth losing your soul.
I pray that you find Jesus.
Well, God bless you, Grace.
Stay on the line.
You're clearly a godly woman.
You have a large heart.
This is not a woman who has followed the Christian path.
You look at how she started her career.
You look at what she has cost the people who are let across the border illegally, the lives
of those murdered by the illegals, from 12-year-old Jocelyn Nungare to Lake and Riley to the mother
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and you open the borders.
But you're a good person, Rain.
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Rick, Phoenix, Arizona.
Hello, Dr. Gorka.
I'd like to share some serious humor regarding Kamila and her avoiding the Al Smith dinner.
Go ahead.
Over the weekend, I had a chance to see an old episode of I Love Lucy from the 1950s.
She has a group of her bridge club overplaying and one of them has this real annoying laugh.
And Lucy finally says, Oh, quit cackling.
I've been waiting ten years for you to lay that egg.
And you think that's why she's not going to the Al Smith dinner?
I think that might be it.
She doesn't want to lay that egg.
I think that may be part of the problem.
Thank you, Rick.
Let's squeeze in one more call.
Randy, Knoxville.
Hey, good afternoon, Dr. Gorka.
Hey.
Yes, sir.
I wanted to ask you, Zelensky of Ukraine did that campaign stop for Kamala with her people and they started signing bombs on the Pennsylvania, the start of the Pennsylvania early voting thing.
I'm wondering what you think.
It seems to me like Zelensky is campaigning for Kamala to become president.
I think he's an idiot.
I think that what he did in Pennsylvania, what he said about J.D.
Vance is moronic, especially if, God willing, we do our part and President Trump wins.
I'm going to be asking that question to Lord Conrad Black in about seven minutes, but God bless him for fighting against the Russian invaders, but Volodymyr Zelensky, what you did yesterday, whilst you may not have said, vote for Kamala, what you said about J.D.
Vance and President Trump means you've lost the plot.
And really, it was one of the dumbest things you've done as the Premier of Ukraine.
Thank you for the question, Randy.
We're out of time.
We shall continue on that topic with Lord Black momentarily.
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You're right, Joe.
It is narrowing.
The gap between Harris and Trump on who do you believe will chart a better economic future for us has narrowed quite a bit, by half.
Part of it is that Americans, when you ask the question, are you better off today than you were four years ago, many Americans misremember just how bad the economy was four years ago.
Wow!
That's... Jeff, is that a serving senator who said that?
That we had a bad economy under President Trump?
Yeah, you just miss remembering.
I miss... Well, it was, what, like, you know, five years ago.
It's hard to remember.
Well, his commander-in-chief doesn't remember, so I can see why he wouldn't.
But how much was gasoline back then?
A lot less than it was now.
And the average mortgage was $1,000 cheaper, right?
Yeah.
I think Chris Coons.
What is that thing they sell Prevagen for memory loss?
I think Senator Coons need to get some of that.
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Welcome back to America First.
Thanks very much, Sebastian.
So much to discuss since last we met regarding what's happening in presidential politics.
I have your latest article in the New York Sun in front of me.
We haven't rehearsed any of this, but I have to get your take in just the rationale or the lack of a rationale we see coming out of The head of state of that beleaguered, benighted nation that is Ukraine.
Yesterday he was in Pennsylvania touring a munitions factory and signing the shells that I presume are going to be shipped to the Ukraine once he gets back to Kiev.
And at the same time, he gives a big interview for an American magazine in which he goes on record calling the vice president nominee No, I'm astounded at him being so undiplomatic.
I think if he were to have uttered that criticism of President Biden, it would be accurate.
the war. This doesn't seem to be a very wise move for an individual just 42 days
before an American election. No I'm astounded at him being so undiplomatic.
I think if he were to have uttered that criticism of President Biden it would be
accurate. It would be of course a discourtesy to the incumbent president
but he doesn't appear to have any idea how to win the war.
I mean, I think it is not the case at all that President Trump doesn't have an exit strategy.
He does.
And it's one that the Ukrainians should be happy with.
And basically, it is that fine, they'd have to give up some of what, maybe even most of what the Russians have occupied, but they would get real guarantees Worldwide acceptance of their legitimacy as a completely independent country.
All this bunk about being part of a near abroad with a compromised sovereignty would be over.
And the West would achieve its second objective in this, which apart from protecting Ukraine from being reabsorbed into Russia, is to create the conditions in which we can assist the Russians out of their deadly embrace with China.
I mean, those are our strategic objectives.
They aren't particularly to win back every square inch of Ukraine.
And I agree with his concerns about J.D.
Vance, although my impression is he's had a bit of thought reform since he was nominated.
But when he said he didn't care who ruled Ukraine, he wasn't thinking properly.
But I don't see where he has any complaint with President Trump.
Is there any premise, any theory?
That could justify criticizing President Trump so close to an election, especially.
What did you say, Eric?
The latest poll as of today.
Who was that from?
Siena?
No.
Quinnipiac University has President Trump up by one against Kabbalah National.
So Quinnipiac, not exactly a conservative outlet, has President Trump winning?
No, no.
They had him trailing by five points last week.
Yeah.
I mean, you can't believe them either way, but that From the Trump side, that's certainly good news.
No, look, you don't do that.
I mean, it's just bad protocol.
And furthermore, it constitutes something perilously close to interference in the democratic election process of a friendly country, and you don't do it.
I mean, you know, the British have just had an election.
None of the rest of us, allies of Britain, the Americans, the Canadians, the French, the Germans, none of us Intervened and had our leaders go there and say what they thought might happen in the election.
I mean, you don't do it.
You don't do it.
And the incumbent did something that he has a right to do, but was rather unfortunate.
If you look at the history of the assault on Israel at the United Nations, the current commander in chief said the following about the conflict in the Middle East.
That's Joe Biden cut five.
As we look ahead, we must also address the rise of violence against innocent Palestinians on the West Bank and set the conditions for a better future, including a two-state solution where the world, where Israel enjoys security and peace and full recognition and normalized relations with all its neighbors, where Palestinians live in security, dignity, and self-determination in a state of their own.
Strange verbiage to use as we approach the first anniversary, the focus on the innocent Palestinians, is it not?
Yeah, and furthermore, it's in his imagination.
I mean, the Palestinians could have had their own state anytime they wanted in the last 20 years.
But the trouble is, it's not the state they want, which is essentially everything that's there, including what is now Israel.
And as for Hamas, they have made it absolutely clear that they will never accept the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state.
So there's no chance of peace.
Well, that Hamas terrorist apparatus is extant.
And I mean, I don't know what the president thinks he's doing.
This wasn't a year ago.
The invasion of Israel wasn't just another border skirmish.
It was an act of war.
It was declared to be an act of war.
The de facto declaration of war was responded to.
Well, as we've discussed before, Sebastian, A year after Pearl Harbor, nobody was telling Roosevelt to stop the war because he killed more Japanese than Americans who had died at Pearl Harbor.
A year after 9-11, no one was telling President George W. Bush that he'd killed plenty of terrorists now, so now he could stop.
I mean, that's not how wars work.
Once they break out, in this case in the most savage and barbarous manner, You fight them until you've won, or lost, and you can't compromise with the Hamas terrorists.
So all this talk of, I mean, I agree, ultimately it's a two-state solution.
The British gave the same territory away to two different parties, and there was never any solution except to divide it.
But you can't make an agreement with people who don't want to make an agreement, and Hamas doesn't recognize the right of Israel to exist.
Are you as impressed as I am with the operation that we now hear took six years to gestate, of getting 2,000 pages through a Hungarian front company into the pockets of Hezbollah jihadis?
That's some coup, is it not, Lord Black?
Inspiring.
Inspiring, and a marvelous and enviable sequel.
To eliminating the head of their enemy while he was a guest in the Iranian government guest house.
And not only that, we now have confirmed, which is kind of shocking, a kind of black eye for America, that one of the people who was neutralized by those explosive devices was a seminal actor in the Beirut barracks bombing of Nyon four decades ago.
Yeah.
No, it's...
Look, that history of terror in the Middle East is a terrible one, and it isn't over.
But nobody should be under any doubt that running Hamas to ground in Gaza, pushing them into their caves, and doing the necessary eventually to flush them out or kill them there, is a contribution to peace.
Yeah, it is a civilizational war and is best understood in the broader civilizational context, which you can receive from an eminently readable tome.
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No, I did not.
Did he criticize her?
Very gently and made a connection to Mondale.
We'll play it for you.
Could you scooch back a little bit and angle the camera down?
Oh, perfect. Yes, yes, yes. Ideal, ideal.
Yes. Perfect.
Would you play for Conrad?
Eleven?
Yeah.
We're disappointed.
We were looking forward to giving the Vice President an enthusiastic welcome.
And we were confident that she would find this.
You know, she speaks very much about the high ideals and how it's good to get away from division and come together in unity and all.
That's what the A.L.
Smith dinner is all about.
We haven't given up yet.
We're not used to this.
We don't know how to handle it.
This hasn't happened in 40 years since Walter Mondale turned down the invitation.
Remember, he lost 49 out of 50 states.
I don't want to say there's a direct connection there.
So we're not used to this, and we're not giving up.
You know who's been a help to us, Lauren, is Senator Schumer and Governor Hochul.
They both are working hard to see that they convince her to come.
So there's still a chance?
Yeah, and Senator Schumer said to me, he said, I don't think she made the decision.
I think her schedulers are saying she can't make it.
So we're not giving up.
We hope she's here.
Just that bringing up Mondale was hilarious, I thought.
What was his excuse for not coming?
Oh, back then?
I don't know, I don't know.
Let's tilt you down just a tad.
A little less headroom.
That's perfect, perfect, perfect.
Good, good, good.
All right.
Come in with John Paulson.
And then I'm going to tee up the President's Rally yesterday in Pennsylvania.
Cut.
Nine.
Oh, wait, which one's the Paulson cut?
Paulson is cut two.
Two, okay.
I'll come in with that.
And then I'll tee up cut nine.
Alrighty.
Do your articles always appear on the day of our interview?
Are they always Tuesdays?
They usually come out on Monday.
On Monday, okay.
Yeah.
Those ones, the New York Sun, yeah.
90.
You don't know the title of this latest one because I only have the meat of the article.
You don't know the headline they gave it.
Conrad?
No, I'm sorry.
You don't know the title they gave your article?
Because I just have the text.
I'm afraid I do not, no.
I sent you what I sent them.
Got it.
I mean, normally my stuff is run without alteration.
Right, it just doesn't have the headline.
As you can see, I think the whole thing, the entire fraud of the 2020 election,
they tried to stop the disintegration of that fraud by easing Biden out and putting her in.
but i think they just paused for a few weeks and i think they collapsed
yes i mean did you see the remote
Yes, I did.
If you can't, can't you suck?
I'm not.
I'm not.
Under Biden, they've declined 2.1%.
So the American worker is the most vulnerable.
So the tax policies he articulated, no tax on tip, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security, they benefit the people that need the help the most to restore their income so they can meet the higher cost of living today.
Jeff, can you send Senator Coons that clip?
Because I don't know if Senator Coons has ever had a real job in the economy, but that's John Paulson, right?
Billionaire investor on Wall Street, correct?
Yes, that is him.
He says that the economy actually grew 7% under Donald Trump and it's shrunk 2% under Biden?
I think he knows a little bit more about the economy than Coons.
Yeah, I think we should find the staffer's email and send that to him.
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Lord Black, Your latest piece in the New York Sun speaks of the imminent or the continuing collapse of the House of Cards that is the Kamala campaign.
Will you unpack the fragility of the campaign and what the Achilles heel really is?
Yeah, you see, my theory is that it's all of a piece going back to 2020.
At that time, as you know, Sanders was going to win the nomination for the Democrats.
But the party bosses intervened and said, look here, you can't win because you're too far left.
So we'll get an innocuous person you can live with as the nominee.
He's unfrightening.
And because of the pandemic, he can campaign from his basement.
But he'll stand on your platform.
And so Joe Biden was put in, having completely failed in the primaries up to then.
And because he was pledged to having a non-white woman as his vice presidential candidate, the only such person that any of them could think of was Kamala Harris, she was nominated.
And despite the support of 95% of the national political media and outspending Trump two to one, they had to resort to casting millions of harvested ballots that could not be verified.
In an election where 44,000 votes lived in three states, Trump would have won.
And on that basis, they got in.
But because it was a terrible program, and because neither the president nor the vice president were competent for those positions, it has been a disastrous administration.
On every major policy area, the debacle in foreign affairs, inflation, 15 million people pouring in illegally across the southern border.
And struck skyrocketing crime rates and so forth.
So finally, they realized that they simply didn't have a feasible candidate in President Biden.
He left as if through a trapdoor.
But in his act of vengeance against those who, as he thought, betrayed him, he did not release his delegates and told them to vote for her.
She came in and it is now clear after a joy and vibes interregnum in which the Democratic media went completely out of their minds with joy.
They didn't have to carry Biden across the finish line and portrayed her as the woman America and the world were waiting for.
It is clear that she hasn't a clue what she is doing.
She cannot answer.
She cannot answer even softball questions from Oprah Winfrey.
And and I think I think the Scales are falling from the eyes of the country, and it is now resuming its disintegration.
So this is interesting.
So it's not just the fraud of the 81 million mailed out ballots, but you're taking the fraud of the election To a kind of genetic point of, you know, genesis, whereby the removal of Bernie Sanders was the beginning of this shell game, the kind of Wizard of Oz behind the curtain.
And that puts its stamp on the last five years, whereby it's all a decrepit con, and now it's just fraying at the edges.
Yes.
You see, they agreed to give Sanders his socialist program and do their best to put it across, but they couldn't do it with him.
And he accepted that like a good sport.
We got his program.
It's been a disaster.
Inflation has skyrocketed.
The country is under terrible strain with these millions and millions of unauthorized migrants.
And the foreign policy has been a slapstick farce.
with a great deal of tragedy involved in it.
And so the whole thing is coming apart and you can't just put lipstick on that.
You can't, I mean, that wasn't a gender specific comment.
You can't suddenly whitewash an administration of which the present nominee was the co-captain.
I mean, she was on the bridge while the ship foundered.
She can't suddenly say, we want change.
We'll get change.
All right, but not from her.
And can she avoid another debate?
If President Trump wants to do one?
Can she do another version of hiding in the basement?
Well, if she I think if he really challenged her to one, she would say that she would accept but what would happen is I think she would Her negotiators would insist on the same sort of rigged debate we had a few weeks ago, where the people moderating it were so violently partisan.
A moron, literally a cigar store Indian, could win for the Democrats.
And obviously, I don't think Trump is going to accept that again, and I don't see why he should.
And in the meantime, more Puff P softball interviews with the likes of Oprah Winfrey, and that's all we're going to get.
Sebastian, they backfire.
Mr. Lincoln was right.
You can fool some of the people all the time, all of the people some of the time, but not everybody all the time.
And too many Americans see that for what it is.
I mean, the aspirant to the office of president and the current vice president says, a community of children is a community of children.
I mean, it won't fly.
Yeah, it just won't do.
Yeah.
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of dictatorial regimes.
It's like, when everything is based on a lie, there's that moment, like Ceausescu on the balcony, where it can just, like, go from seemingly intact to just fractured in an instant.
Unless you have the state run by cadres and fanatical believers in something, no matter how outrageous it is, like the Nazis and I agree.
communists, I mean they actually believed in what they were doing. But I mean
there where it was just a mounty bank, a rank opportunist misgoverning the
country, it's all of a sudden the Emperor had no clothes. I agree, look
obviously the Democrats haven't been committing atrocities like... No, no, no, but the point is and I didn't
appreciate it, I think you're absolutely right.
It's not just the 2020 election in terms of, you know, malfeasance and corruption during the election proper.
It starts with Bernie Sanders and the superdelegates.
I mean, the gene code of the victory was corrupt from the beginning.
Bernie was schlung, as Trump said, and he accepted it to get his Yeah.
It's such a good point.
I want you to know I have to leave here and race downtown to have a debate at a prominent institution in this country named after famous Canadian statesmen of the 50s and 60s, and I am upholding your future and past, present And my associate on my side in this debate is none other than Chris Christie, which means that he's back in the reservation now.
Wow.
Is it being recorded?
I think so.
Yeah.
If it is, I'll send it to you.
Please.
All right.
Good luck.
I'm going to have to leave you now because I've got a bit of... Yeah.
Good luck.
Thank you, Conrad.
Bye.
Yep.
Coming in with car 10.
Does that excite you, Jeff?
What?
I didn't hear it.
He's going to a debate.
I heard Chris Christie though.
On his side, promoting Trump, is Chris Christie.
Oh, is that one of those monk debates?
Oh, interesting.
No, it is.
No, it's not the monk debate.
No, I was talking to John.
Okay.
Yeah.
Because usually that's how they do it, it's a 2v2.
Alright, Knowles is good for a Newsmax style, so we're just waiting.
So, you mean he confirmed?
Yeah.
Excellent.
Alright, what did you say, Eric?
Um, I said usually those monk debates are like a 2v2 thing, right?
Uh, yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
That'll be something.
I'm gonna go.
Oh.
And then I'm going to do the french fries cut 9.
Ugh, right.
We've got John's song, right?
Um, the clip, yeah.
That's a 57 second long clip.
Good.
10. Oh, I'm done.
11.
Kamala Harris is the tax queen and she's coming for your money.
She's coming for your pensions and she's coming for your savings
unless you defeat her in November and want to take away your guns.
Remember that.
Always remember that.
As President, I will keep Kamala's greedy hands out of your pockets, and we will deliver gigantic tax cuts.
I gave you the largest tax cuts in history, and we are going to go further.
Jeff, what do you think of that new nickname?
Kamala is the Tax Queen.
Could that stick?
I like the greedy hands, too, part of it.
That one's even better.
The Tax Queen with the greedy hands.
But it gets better, guys!
At the rally in Pennsylvania, President Trump, he went there.
The McDonald's story.
Play cut.
Remember this.
For a long time, she's been talking about her experience at McDonald's.
I worked at McDonald's over the french fries.
It was so hot.
I think I'm going to go to a McDonald's next week someplace.
I'm going to go.
It might not be here in your place.
I'm going to go to a McDonald's and I'm going to work the french fry job for about a half an hour.
I want to see how it is.
But she said she worked and she grew up in terrible conditions.
She worked at McDonald's.
She never worked there!
And these fake news reporters will never report it.
They don't want to report it because they're fake.
They're fake.
They don't want to report it.
She never worked at McDonald's, but it was a big part of her resume.
They went to the different places.
Did she work here?
She said, we don't know who the hell she is.
Leave us alone.
We're making hamburgers.
Leave us alone!
We're making Big Macs!
Get out of here!
I mean, seriously, how many Kamala Harrises can there be in America?
I mean, if a Kamala Harris worked at any McDonald's, you'd know, right?
It's not like, did John Smith, because there's lots of John Smiths.
But I presume there's only one Kamala Harris.
It's got to be pretty easy to verify.
All right, I need to know, guys.
Does President Trump At his next campaign.
I mean look, I told the campaign he's got to go to a grocery store, he's got to help out a woman who can't afford the groceries.
What did he do yesterday, Eric?
What did the President Trump do?
He gave a $100 bill to a woman who was trying to pay for her groceries.
I think he pulled out a couple of Benjamins.
He said, and then he said, and this is what we're going to do for you from the White House!
If we win, God willing.
So, do we have President Trump?
Come on guys, tell me.
Do we have President Trump?
Stop.
Adam McDonald's go behind the counter and shake that basket of fries.
Eric, what do you think?
A thousand percent he will, because he did something similar back when he was in charge of the Trump Organization.
There was a video he did for a TV show where he, for a day, did the jobs in his hotel.
He worked as a bellboy.
He did, so it's familiar territory for him.
Well, there's that scene, that skit from SNL when he comes in in the overalls, right?
And he's the plumber or something.
What do you think, Guy?
Should he cook some French fries at McDonald's?
Well sir, I think this event should be filmed and being put together as a package and put it on President Trump's social media.
Plus it will be one of the most powerful, you know, campaign contents, you know.
But Alex, do we do that?
Do we do what Guy says?
Put the video on all social media platforms with the music of the eating the cats and dogs?
Is that what we do?
That's it.
Maybe he can get the ice cream machine working there too.
It's always broken.
Why is the ice cream machine always broken at McDonald's?
What is it with the ice cream machine, Alex?
Beats me.
I don't know.
Jeff, is it a good idea or am I being silly?
I think you need to do it and put it, blast it all over social media because people will see it and they'll say, why is he doing this?
And then people are going to say, because Kamala Harris lied about working at McDonald's.
And Kamala, she has not responded which McDonald's.
It's very simple.
Which McDonald's did you work at?
It's just like Springfield, right?
They're eating the cats and dogs, everybody laughs, and then everybody looks at Springfield, he goes behind the counter, fries a batch of those lovely, lovely thin french fries, and then people say, the undecideds, what is the former president doing?
At McDonald's with that massive salt shaker they use to put the salt in and that little scooper thing that gets the cardboard and it goes in there and they're going to say what what is he doing and then of course what's the answer because Kamala Harris Lied about working at McDonald's.
Oh my!
This is the Sun Tzu combined with Machiavelli and a little pinch of von Clausewitz art of political communication.
You draw them to your flame with something that makes them scratch their heads, but then you have the opportunity To ask the question and then boom!
Why would she lie about working at McDonald's?
Power communicated through images that make people ask questions.
All right, it's gotta be done.
He went to the grocery store.
Next time, it's the french fries at McDonald's.
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Hey Jeff, do you like it when I sing on air live?
Do you like that?
Do you enjoy that?
Not really.
Why?
I'm not a big... No, I'm not too much big in your singing.
You don't sing very much at all though.
I don't?
So what's the problem with my singing?
My dulcet tones?
Give it a try then.
Eric, why would my executive producer say he doesn't like my singing?
For a moment, I thought he was going to say he's not much of a music person, and I would have believed that answer.
Yeah, but he didn't, and then he went straight for my heart.
He just, like, got a dagger and shivved me in the heart.
Alex, you're my engineer.
You are the radar.
You are the audio meister.
What do you think of when I let myself go a little bit on air?
That reminds me, we never got a video of your karaoke on the cruise.
Shh, it's top secret.
So don't avoid the question.
Answer the question.
Sure, we love it.
See?
That's what team members should do.
That's how you make the host of the show feel good.
In the meantime, whilst I deal with Jeff behind the seats, have you heard about our friend Dinesh D'Souza's latest movie?
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But does it have as good a soundtrack as this song rocketing up the charts?
I'm a fighter.
I get back up.
That's what I do.
I didn't soldier on this far just to lose.
So take your shot.
Is that all you got?
It's co-written by veteran country music hit maker Chris Wallin.
President Trump posted it on his Instagram account, calling it a great and unexpected honor to have this song written about him and performed by my friend, the Minister of Culture, Breitbart.com, John Kahn.
It's been a minute.
Hi, Doc.
How are you?
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, it's great to have you.
I'm still recovering from what my producer said about my song talents.
But we are celebrating your success.
Is it true, I'm just reading here, that you have beaten out in the last few days Songs by, I don't know who Shaboosie is, but Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars, and even the Cacklers supporter Billie Eilish.
John, are you like the hottest thing in music right now?
Well, I don't know that I'd go that far, Doc, but we've been super excited and sort of dumbfounding.
We've been on top of the iTunes download charts for six straight days.
We just found out this morning that we cracked the top five on Billboard on all digital sales.
And I also found out that President Trump played at his rally last night, which is just Hang on, hang on, hang on.
You found out?
Was that a surprise to you?
Did they not tell you?
Yeah, yeah.
I was actually screening.
I was looking at the stream on Right Side Broadcasting and I saw the video come up and I just was like, oh my gosh.
So what do you do now?
Do you say you've done it?
Do you retire?
Are you finished?
Well, Doc, I think we've got a job to do until November.
So maybe after November, after a win in November, I'll consider retiring.
But until then, I think we all...
We all have to fight alongside President Trump, and being that he's had to withstand so much.
Yeah, being shot in the head, being one of those things.
You are one of the OG gang at Breitbart, that's why we call you the Minister of Culture.
Follow John at MrJohnDavid, no H, MrJohnDavid on Twitter.
Why did you write this song, John?
Why did you feel compelled to do this?
So, you know, I was watching President Trump go up to the microphones after the bogus conviction of a bogus case and he's got that walk that just says everything's gonna be okay and you're not gonna get me down and I just shook my head I started thinking like what how does this man get out of bed every day with what's been thrown at him and
You know, I sauntered over to the piano, which is out of tune and I don't know how to play it very well, and hit a few chords, came up with a few lyrics, and then I realized I had something that I really liked.
And I had a writing session in Nashville with Chris Wallen, who's written for Garth Brooks and Kenny Chesney and Toby Keith, among others.
And I brought it into a writer's room with him and I said, what do you think about this?
And I knew he shared the same ideology.
And he goes, let's do it.
And in about an hour and a half, it was done.
So the song was actually written before the first assassination attempt.
And when everybody, the whole world saw that, when he stood up and said, fight, fight, fight, you know, I got goosebumps all down my body.
And knowing that we had this song written and I called Chris and I said, we got to get this out, we got to produce it and get it out.
And then the video was super.
I think that the video helped to get it out too.
So what next?
Are you going to continue?
What is your message to those out there in your industry who don't have the backbone to do what you just did?
Well, I wish I could tell everybody to go back and know who Andrew Breitbart was, because he's the one.
He was a good friend of mine, and he was out there taking slings and arrows so that other people didn't have to.
I'm not saying I'm taking slings and arrows, but without meeting Andrew, without his inspiration, I never would have had the courage to put this out, particularly living in L.A., in the belly of the beast.
Yeah, as you know, I was National Security Editor for Breitbart before I joined the Trump administration.
It's one of my great regrets in life that I never got to meet Andrew.
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Title for that and also for black How does Trump get up in the morning?
And for black...
I'm going to tee up Cut 13 here.
13, okay.
And then Jeff has got to comment on it because it's just so mind-blowing.
When have you ever sang on this show before?
Occasionally with Jen, I think.
I've sung on this show.
No, you've never.
I have.
When?
Alex, back me up.
What would you have sang?
A couple of times I sing the liners, right?
Alex?
I've heard whistles.
Eric!
Whistles.
This is like a political response now.
Whistling without singing.
Eric!
Every now and then when you and Jen talk karaoke, you two will sing a little bit.
So I think that's more in the breaks than on the air, but yeah.
But sometimes I'll get so carried away by a liner, I'll sing the liner.
I don't think I've ever heard you sing.
So, you're not just being nasty to me, you're denying I ever did it.
Because that's better.
If you deny I ever did it, that's better.
I'm not asking if I like it, but if I've never heard it, how can I not know if I like it?
Something's suspicious about Jeff's answers today.
I don't know what's going on.
It's like, a little suspicious.
It sounds like he's goading you and singing just so you can prove you're fun with soccer.
Shut up.
Shut up.
Come up to you guys to get cheaper drugs.
Yeah.
Come over the border for cheaper drugs.
You guys okay with that?
We're happy to try and help you out, but it'd be really easier if you guys had universal health care.
Every single person in that audience is a clinical cretin.
You're cheering the healthcare that Justin Trudeau is discussing with regards to Canada?
Hey, Eric, do you think that Justin Trudeau ever gets in line to have his healthcare doled out to him by the National Service there?
Absolutely not.
He probably has all the doctors come to his mansion or whatever it is to give it to him directly.
Bingo.
What cretins.
Unbelievable.
The sooner they get rid of that man.
Somebody else is elected Prime Minister, the better.
You know how nice I am, Alex?
Do you know how nice I am to Jeff?
I've worked my tail off for the last two hours to make sure that I use every single one of the cuts he worked on today.
How many radio hosts make sure to reward their executive producer for all the work they did by making sure that his cuts don't remain unused?
That's why you're one of a kind.
You're a gentleman and a scholar.
Yeah, you're the diplomat.
I'm a gentleman and a scholar.
We'll get Jeff to comment on this next cut.
I think it's the last one I have to play.
It's probably the most cringe thing on Fox since they did that transgender thing.
So this is allegedly one of Kamala's advisors being asked by Sandra Smith about her economic plan.
Play cut.
What is Harris' plan?
We're waiting.
Okay.
There's a lot of aspects to it in regards to looking at it online.
So let's talk about lowering the grocery cost because that's something that's brought up.
The viewers can look at this online.
She talks about certain things in regards to advancing the first federal ban on price gouging on food and groceries to set clear rules to the road to make it clear that big corporations can't unfairly exploit consumers as well.
Is that happening?
It's not at this moment.
No, this is her plan that's laid out for the first hundred days when she becomes president of the United States of America.
Is that currently happening?
In regards to that, I don't know exactly if that's currently happening or not because I'm not privy to that type of information, but there are people who are costing a lot of money in regards to groceries.
Okay.
I think you're having a hard time articulating your plan.
Honestly, that's not true.
I'm constantly being interrupted by you, which as a woman, I think is...
Disrespectful.
When I'm trying to speak, every time I try and speak, you speak over me.
Okay, final thought.
Thank you so much for having me.
Jeff, have you ever seen anything that bad on Fox?
I think it was a perfect surrogate for Kamala.
Just like the candidate.
Talks in circles, doesn't give her her plan, and then say it's sexist.
Here's the most important thing about her plan.
What is the thing you're talking about happening?
I don't know!
That's just perfect!
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A woman has its own duty, and a man has its own duty.
And a lady cannot do the duty of a man, and a man cannot do the duty of a woman.
A woman has her own duty and a man has his own duty.
And a lady cannot do the duty of a man and a man cannot do the duty of a woman.
Can a man become a woman?
No.
No?
No.
What about a transgender?
Transgender?
No. No? No. What about a transgender? Transgender? No. No?
Something wrong.
Yes, indeed.
How do you take back the culture?
You make movies, you make documentaries like that one.
What is a woman?
Something wrong.
Yes, indeed.
How do you take back the culture?
You make movies.
You make documentaries like that one, What is a Woman.
Could it be outdone?
Well, possibly, but only by the man who made it.
He is from The Daily Wire.
He's our special one-on-one guest, and he's outdone himself.
The new one is Am I Racist?, and we are delighted to have with us for the whole hour the one and only star director-producer Matt Walsh.
Matt, welcome to America First.
Thanks for having me, really appreciate it.
All right, so, full disclosure, I don't know how I got on the list.
I think it was an accident.
The fact that your publicist is my old publisher's publicist may just be a happenstance.
I made it to the premiere in Nashville of your new movie with luminaries like yourself, with Jordan Peele and the rest of the Daily Wire team.
It was superlative, and I feel very bad for the individual sitting next to me, Siaka Massaquah.
Because I don't laugh a lot in movies, but I was guffawing through almost two hours of this movie.
So we salute you.
Am I racist is even better than what is a woman.
This is a labor of love.
How long?
Let's start with this.
Let's start with this question for those who are unfamiliar with the private Matt Walsh.
Is it an affect?
I'll tell people what I saw of you in the reception afterwards.
But your deadpan is just, it seems like nothing gets to you.
The lunacy of what you are witnessing never gets to you.
How is that possible?
Is that the real Matt Walsh?
It's maybe 75% real, and I give it about 75%.
I mean, I probably do tend to, I guess what the therapist would say if I talked to one, which I don't, internalize.
I do tend to internalize things quite a bit.
You know, in reality, a lot of what I'm hearing and what I'm talking to these people, what I'm seeing, you know, I do have an urge to respond to it.
Only it's not, you know, people often say, well, how do you keep a straight face in these, you know, when you're in these environments?
And for me, it's not so much an urge to laugh.
I mean, laugh when you're watching the movie, because when it's all put together in a way, it's very funny.
But when you're in the moment, when you're actually in the room with these kinds of people, Uh, in real time.
It's actually, it's less funny than it is often quite infuriating and depressing and so I do have the urge often to, you know, start arguing with them, start yelling and ranting.
And I have to, that's the impulse that I have to contain, I guess.
Well, I don't want to give away spoilers.
Everybody needs to see this movie right now.
Amiracist.com.
I think at least 1,300 movie theaters across the nation.
It is superb.
This is what, forget conservatism, this is what patriots need to do to take back our civilization.
Amiracist.com.
I've seen it.
It's incredible.
I'm going to kind of go straight to the heart of the matter and then we'll wind our way around other topics.
I have to ask you this because the story is you go undercover in a kind of nominal disguise.
It's not like Planet of the Apes.
You're not exactly in prosthetics.
you put a man bun on, change your hair a little bit, and then you get DEI certified, or you pretend to be,
you interview the main proponents of this lunacy, and then you have a training where people pay to,
what is it, de-center their whiteness?
I don't want to get the terminology wrong.
The one thing that I have to ask, given you did, what, at least a year and a half
or two years researching this movie, what is your sense when you're there, Matt,
with the Robin DiAngelo's of the world, with the people who are saying,
if you're black, you're a victim, if you're white, you're an oppressor,
do these people actually trust you?
truly believe this garbage?
Or are they playing along to make money or to virtue signal?
How much of this is true, deep indoctrination?
And how much of this, hey, look at me, I'm a good person.
I think for the people that are saying it, the people that are pushing it, I think that it's very phony.
There's a it's a I'm sure that some level they believe some of what they're saying.
But I think that they're in it for the money.
They're in it because they have a lot of influence over other people and their lives.
I think that, you know, when you have people coming to you as kind of a moral authority, that has to be kind of intoxicating for them in a certain way.
I think that's what they get out of it.
On the other hand, though, the people they're talking to, the people that go to these seminars willingly or buy the books, they buy, you know, White Fragility and all the rest of it, I think those people do believe it.
I think that they are true.
There's an element of virtue signaling for them also, I'm sure, but just my sense in being around those people, the dupes, you know, the sheep, I think that they really do believe it, that it's infected them deep in their soul, and that's probably the most disturbing thing about all of this.
And when you look at the broader environment, Which one of these do you think is collapsing first?
I was of the opinion that the transgender lunacy was going to be the largest red pill for tens of millions of people who don't see themselves as political but then understand that a You know, a hairy 18-year-old man walking around naked in their daughter's changing room and pretending to be a woman is just insanity.
Is that starting to collapse, in part thanks to your first movie, quicker than this?
Or do you see a difference between the two insanities?
I guess it depends on what you mean by this, because there's... The CRT.
The CRT versus the transgender.
Yeah, okay.
If it's trans ideology versus kind of left-wing racial ideology, then I'd say trans ideology is certainly collapsing quicker and eventually will collapse entirely.
I think it's not sustainable.
20 years from now, is there going to be anything remotely resembling kind of modern-day trans ideology in the culture?
I think probably not.
Whereas left-wing racial ideology, you know, In one form or another is probably going to that's that that's much deeper.
That's that thing that's that's kind of burrowed much deeper in the culture.
And I think that that probably is going to persist in one form or another.
It's just that you have you know D.I.
is one of the latest iterations of it.
It's one of the ways that this idea is packaged.
And I think D.I.
is going away.
I'd be surprised if 5 10 years from now There's any company in America that has any kind of DEI program that they actually call DEI.
Really?
Yeah, I think it's because it's once people wake up to the fact that it's happening and notice it, it's becomes a kind of, it's a joke.
And it's seen that way by the public.
People don't take it seriously anymore.
And so that becomes unsustainable for them.
But what you have to look out for is, well, do they just take these ideas and repackage them?
It is.
And call it something else, which is which I think is what they're going to do.
And the left is very good at that.
I mean, they're very good at taking ideas, coming up with euphemisms for them.
And then once everybody figures out what this euphemism really means, well, and they drop it and they come up with a new euphemism and they get a little mileage out of that.
They just repeat the process forever.
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One of them is at that...
I hope they're not doing this anymore.
I presume they are.
These two women who organize dinners for white women to chastise them on how racist they are.
And there's a moment during that dinner where you're playing the waiter who chimes in at the end.
Where one of these women basically says, F America.
It isn't about race.
It's about America is the problem.
And this vituperation just comes out.
Then, later on, when you hold this fake DEI seminar, and you roll in your alleged racist uncle in a wheelchair, and you invite the participants who've paid to come there, To respond to your actor uncle, one of them, who's just met this person for the first time, he's in a wheelchair, says, F you!
In front of everyone, just this bile, this kind of demonic hatred comes out of her.
How much of this do you think is not a con, a money-making venture, But really, and I don't want to get psycho babbly here, but is a function of godless people who hate themselves and just want an excuse to hate America and hate their fellow Americans?
I think you nailed it.
I mean, that's, that's, and I thought about this a lot as we were making the movie and what you just mentioned, that scene there at the end with my poor, my dear old Uncle Frank.
For me, there are a lot of things that happened while we were filming the movie that I found surprising.
But that was the moment that shocked me personally when I was in the moment and honestly didn't see it coming.
We set up our seminar at the end, which you see if you watch the movie, kind of walking people through how to de-center their whiteness and it gets progressively more ridiculous.
And we had set it up so that By the time you get to the end, it's gotten so absurd that nobody will go along with it anymore.
And that's going to be kind of our end, our out.
Once people refuse to go along, it'll be my sort of awakening moment.
What I didn't expect is that there'd be anybody in the class who would actually accompany me across this threshold.
You mean to insult your quote-unquote uncle?
Right.
Right.
Well, it wants to follow me in berating this like poor old guy is wheelchair bound guides just completely.
It's very dark, you know, and it's I didn't think anybody would.
And I think I've thought about a lot about why that happened.
And I think part of it is is some people are very suggestible.
And when they see me in that environment, getting emotional and You know, and I'm standing there.
It's kind of this ridiculous, but authority figure, but still an authority figure.
They're sitting there in the at the desk.
I'm standing at the class, the head of the class.
And so there are some people that are just kind of.
They're just programmed to sort of go along with wherever that authority figure takes them.
So there's some of that, but I also think that deeper than that, yes, there is there.
It's a it is a spiritual.
A spiritual problem.
And I think there are a lot of, and the DEI hustlers, race hustlers, they take advantage of that.
Because there are a lot of people in this country that they've got a lot of resentment deep in their heart.
They have, I don't know, disappointment about how their own lives have turned out.
Looking for somebody to blame.
Yeah.
Guilt.
You know, we all carry around guilt because we're all sinners in a fallen world.
And so a lot of that, it's like, those are normal human emotions.
We all experience that to some degree.
But if you're a godless person, and you don't have a traditional faith, well then, you know, so you don't have a framework for understanding these kinds of things and why you're feeling this way.
And so then these DEI race hustlers come along as kind of the new priestesses of this new religion.
And they tell you, okay, well, I'll tell you why you're feeling that way.
I'll give you a way of understanding these feelings.
And so it becomes kind of like a religious conversion in a lot of ways.
It reminds me of...
Something, a recommendation my friend Rich Minita, the great investigative journalist, made to the late great Andrew Breitbart around the time of the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations and all those people camped out at Wall Street.
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There is a moment... How do I do this without spoiling it?
Well, I think it's probably out there.
At the end of the movie, there's a moment where you deal with the greatest race hustler, who, by the way, She's white, or she looks very white to me, and it's Robin DiAngelo who wrote the book White Fragility.
And you bring in one of your team, Ben, the superb Ben who I met At the bar in Nashville at the cinema.
And you basically managed to force her or use her ideological constraints against her to pay reparations to your black production team member.
What was the massive sum she gave, Ben?
I think it was $30 was the total amount.
And how much had you paid her for the interview?
$15,000.
She gave us back a little bit less than $15,000.
And so she gets $15,000 to be interviewed and then decides to give $27, I think it was, in reparations to your black member of your production team.
Have you had any reaction to that epic scene from the woman or any one of the DEI hustlers that you unveiled during the show?
Tell us about any backlash you've received in that.
Yeah, well, it was interesting because for the entire time after we filmed those scenes, before we announced the movie, we didn't really hear anything.
And then we announced the movie, didn't hear anything from any of these people that were in it until a couple of days before the movie came out, they finally came out and started issuing their statements condemning us.
So Rob and D'Angelo put out a statement that might still be on our website, I'm not sure, but a rather lengthy statement on our website.
What was the criticism?
Was she saying that reparations are now bad or what?
which I thought was funny, the Southern Poverty Law Center, of course, a very, you know,
not exactly a reputable source, but links to them as a,
links to their hit piece on me to explain what a dastardly guy I am.
What was the criticism?
Was she saying that reparations are now bad or what?
I think she says that, she says that reparations are supposed to,
kind of like she does in the movie.
She first objects and says that reparations supposed to be a systemic approach.
And she kind of repeats that in her statements.
But my point to her in the movie was, hey, look, are we going to sit around waiting for this broken racist system, as you call it, to catch up?
Or are we going to do what we can in the moment?
And so she doesn't really grapple in her statement.
She doesn't really grapple with that at all.
He just kind of calls me racist and says that we tricked her, but I didn't trick her into paying reparations.
All she could have said no.
I mean, at first, I think it's interesting is he did say no initially, but all I had to do was throw some of her own talking points at her.
And then I guess she felt like she had to, but she wasn't actually being compelled.
There was no trickery involved.
Um, In her paying it, but, uh, it was, you know, it's just, it's just, here's your own logic used against you.
And that was kind of the point of that scene was, and we, um, take her ideas and flip them around just to show people what it looks like.
And that's, that's really not just the point of the scene, but the point of the whole movie is let's take these ideas that people are, that these people are preaching and promoting and let's put them into action.
So that the audience can see what it looks like when you actually try to act on all of this.
And it looks, you know, it's humiliating, it's degrading, it's embarrassing, it's unintentionally hilarious.
Like, it's all of those things when you try to put these ideas in action.
And not only that, it's deliciously ironic, because you followed and executed one of Solzhenitsyn's foundational rules for radicals, where they say, use your enemies' avowed values against them.
Make them live by their own standards.
And that's exactly what you did to Robin DiAngelo.
You threw her garbage ideology in her face, and then she had to comport with those, which made her look like an absolute, well, scoundrel.
She gets paid $15,000 and gives, you know, $27 cash to the black man just because, well, uh, reasons.
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The white participants in the group feel that there's something in themselves that they have to overcome.
When all that's being requested of you is that you be.
Hello.
Hi.
How are you?
How are you?
Sorry about that.
Oh, no problem.
You good?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Remind me of your name again.
Uh, uh, Stephen.
Stephen?
Yeah?
Okay.
Um, did you want to come up?
Come up?
Yeah, do you want to come up and share anything?
Sure, what do you want me to share?
Whatever's on your mind.
I just want to know that, like, my physical safety and yours and everybody else's here is okay?
Why would your physical safety not be okay?
Did I miss something?
I don't feel comfortable.
What?
Can you guys catch me up to speed on what's going on here?
You don't need to be caught up.
We're gonna be silent.
Is it because I said I had 17 black friends?
It might have been 15.
It depends on how you count them.
I would really appreciate it if you left so that the people who actually want to be here and deserve to be here can get what they need.
I do want to be here.
Can you please leave?
Mr. Walsh, is it 15 or 17 black friends that you have the world needs to know?
Uh, well I don't even have 15 or 17 friends of any race in real life in US time.
I'm so annoyed at you in that moment where you were interloping.
That was before you put your disguise on in that DEI training.
And they broke your cover so quickly, Matt.
What happened there?
You shouldn't have snuck out because they immediately checked who you were online, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I guess when I wasn't in the room, it gave them a chance.
You know, they actually, they pulled up, they were actually looking at me.
You saw in the clip there, they're looking at their phones.
They were looking at my Wikipedia article.
Which I guess is not very flattering to me.
And they were finding all these things that were really upsetting to them.
So by the time I came back, uh, they felt unsafe, which I think is, it's, it's, you know, it's very interesting that, uh, the girl said that woman that said she was unsafe.
Well, she didn't decide that she was unsafe with me in the room until she had confirmed that I, that I actually don't agree with her.
Uh, and then that's when all of a sudden it becomes unsafe.
And of course, if you watch that scene in the movie, I am, I never show any aggression towards anyone.
If anything, I'm... My sin in that scene is I was a too eager participant.
Yeah, you started to cry.
You contributed too often.
And I'm so glad you mentioned that point because for me...
The whole thing about that scene, which I find, you know, as a child of those who escaped a totalitarian regime whose father was liberated from a political prison, the moment I find creepiest of all is when this woman says, I don't feel safe.
You're sitting there at a workshop.
For me, that statement is almost cultic.
It's the kind of, I'm dehumanizing you by imputing that you're a threat to my safety physically.
That's like a cult member language for me.
It is, and I think that we're so used to it, we're so used to hearing leftists talk about feeling unsafe because you disagree with them, that Yeah, at a certain point it kind of rolls off, you know, it kind of goes in one ear and out the other, but it is, it's kind of the quintessential cry bully strategy of you're presenting yourself as the victim, but what you're saying, if people take seriously, it has extremely dark implications for the person you're saying it about.
You are, I mean, We see what's happened with Donald Trump twice now with assassination attempts.
And how do they, you know, this is 10 years of them saying that Trump is, he's a danger, he's a threat and all this kind of stuff.
But when you say that about someone, you say it enough, you're kind of building an argument for really bad things that happened to that person.
And yeah, you see that in that scene.
Well, and then they blame him after he gets shot in the head.
They blame him for his language for getting shot.
That's when you realize this is, this is a cult.
Exactly.
Exactly.
It's a cult, but also the only reason I stopped, it is cult-like language, but sometimes I'm cautious about using that word because I don't want to Let them off the hook.
If you're in a cult, you're brainwashed.
And there's a lot of brainwashing that goes on here.
But also, I think the people that use that kind of language, they know what they're doing.
They know exactly what they're doing.
And so there's an element of that too.
It's like an intentional There's intent behind it, I guess is what I'm saying.
All right, let's talk about the joyous moments of the movie.
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There are three moments that are just joyous.
You have the biker bar.
Where underneath the flag that you're not supposed to mention anymore, the General Lee, you know, let's airbrush it out of the Dukes of Hazard flag, you have this grizzled biker say, I don't care what color someone's skin is.
Then you have, I think it's from Guyana, you have the immigrant from the 70s who runs a body shop and he says, I've never been oppressed in America and the only book I need is the Bible.
And then the last one that I thought was the most joyous and afterwards I asked you, did you tell the guys who you really were?
And you said you didn't.
You run into some kids on the street, young men, who say, why are you obsessed with race?
Race doesn't matter as you're pumping them this DEI garbage.
Which of those did you find the most stirring or did buoy your hopes for the future?
And how do you feel in terms of the common sense?
Are there enough people with common sense out there who see through this garbage?
Yeah, I think so.
I thought I was very encouraged by all three of those, all three of those interactions.
Probably the immigrant from Guyana that you point out who's in New Orleans, we went down to talk to the black community in New Orleans.
And his name was Milton.
I don't know if that's in the movie or not, but his name was Milton.
And that was the one that, yeah, the moment that I found most personally, I guess, rewarding or refreshing really was that.
And I guess it's because By the time we talked to him, you know, we had already gone and we've done the Robin DiAngelo scene and we've done race dinner and all of that.
Just just like being around this narrative and these people that are pushing it.
It's quite exhausting.
And then so you sit down, you talk to someone who's just like the normal person who's so far outside the bubble that these people inhabit.
Um, never even heard of Robin DiAngelo.
And when you see that when you talk to someone who's who is outside of that bubble, Uh, it's not just that they disagree with what Robin DiAngelo says.
It's actually that they don't even really speak the same language that you speak.
Um, you say things like systemic racism, even to me, like systemic, I don't, I don't think systemic racism is real, but, uh, I'm very familiar with the concept.
So to me, systemic racism seems like a, an everyday kind of concept.
But talking to Milton and the people at the biker bar, they, you know, I had to kind of explain what that's even supposed to mean.
And then when I explain it, they sort of laugh at it because they're like, well, what are you talking about?
That's not what I see when I live my daily life.
And as an immigrant to America, a legal immigrant, I came here, I waited in line, paid my money, took my oaths, took the test.
I arrived in 2008.
Back then, I didn't see any form of systemic racism anywhere.
I taught for the military, all hues of officers in my classroom, but then along came a president called Obama who changed things quite drastically.
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The thing that vexes me so much, and it's a perennial discussion between my friend Andrew Klavan, your colleague, and myself, you have done something unusual in that You've captured a niche in cultural production, not movies, not fictional ones, but documentaries that actually push back, shed light, and make the ideologues look insane as they are, whether it is What Is Woman or your new movie.
What does our side not get?
Those who live in the real world and who'd like to live by Judeo-Christian principles.
And what do they need to do more of?
What are they doing wrong?
Because we have lots of, quote-unquote, conservative movies that are badly written, badly acted, bash you over the head with, you know, God is good.
Can you give us your take of what drives how you choose what you do in terms of your productions, Matt?
Yeah, and I've thought about this a lot, too, and I think that, well, first of all, And I think that our, that conservatives understand this intellectually, at least in theory, that we talk about the culture war where you're not fighting the culture war at all.
If you aren't producing art, um, because art is what drives and forms the culture.
And so there is, there is no culture war unless we're actually seriously in that, in that game.
Um, and then when you are producing it and whether we're talking about movies or, or shows or, Music, anything along those lines.
I think what conservatives have done wrong for the past several decades, with, of course, with exception, but generally speaking, what we've done wrong is looking at a film, let's say, just take film, as nothing more than a vehicle for sermonizing, you know, just as nothing more than just a vehicle for a message.
And putting that as the number one top priority and then treating everything else as secondary.
You mean as opposed to wrapping it inside a good story?
Right.
Because if you're making a film, even if you're making a documentary, you're a storyteller.
And the story has to come first.
It has to absolutely be the first priority.
Because if the story isn't good, if it's not a good film, then you're not getting the message across.
No one's going to watch it.
And if they do watch it, they're only watching it because they agree with the message already.
And so those are like the last people you need to reach.
Right.
If you want to have any chance of getting your people, getting your message across to the people that need to hear it, it needs to come packaged in a good story.
And in our case, we also wanted this to be a comedy.
And so in a lot of the scenes that we go into it, yeah, I want to get the message across.
We want to do, we want to expose the Grifters, but I also want to make people laugh.
And so Finding comedy in all the scenes was like our number one priority.
We want to get people laughing, and laughter is very disarming.
Comedy is a very disarming thing.
It's also kind of the universal language.
If something is funny, it's funny.
And so we put that as our top priority, and I think that that pays off in the end, because now you're going to get people who otherwise would have no interest in watching something from me, and they're going to watch it anyway, and they're going to be exposed to the message.
In the form of entertainment, and I think that's, you know, that's the future of the culture war for conservatives, I think.
And your message to the conservative billionaires out there who for the last 40 years haven't really invested in the culture?
Why should they?
Explain to the rich people who think another ad in the conservative newspaper will make a difference why they have to think differently.
Well, I think I'd say it's kind of exactly what I just said, but for them, they're the ones who have the purse strings.
And that's one of the reasons why the right has not been able to compete in the entertainment world.
We could break it down and get into all the differences, but a big part of it is a lack of funding.
It takes a lot of money.
I mean, we're discovering this now, just getting a movie into theaters.
It's you're going up.
This is the big leagues now and you're going up against against these studios that have hundreds of millions of dollars and not only not just the money they have access.
They have access to every you know, they get on all the late night shows.
They can get commercials on all the TV channels.
They have all the major media, you know companies that are going to cover them and all the you know, the mainstream news outlets are covering them.
So this is a massive advantage that they have.
And if we want any hope of overcoming that in a sustainable way, then yeah, it takes like you got to have good quality, but it also takes money, it takes funding.
And we're not going to get that from the mainstream film industry.
And so, yeah, it has to come from somewhere.
Well, he's showing the way at Matt Walsh blog on Twitter.
The website to find out where you can watch his latest movie is amiracist.com.
And truly, it is hilarious, but also important.
I'm Sebastian Gawker, this has been America First One-on-One.