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June 28, 2024 - Sebastian Gorka
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Doug Collins LIVE: Joe Biden will still be on the ticket
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This is America First and we are delighted to welcome our very special guest host, former
Congressman Doug Collins.
All right, welcome everybody.
Glad to be with you today.
I mean, I just sort of the day when Seb asked me to do this is, oh, what are we going to talk about?
I mean, well, it's going to be after the debate, but yeah, what could happen?
The idea that we don't have anything to talk about today is just unbelievable.
It is one of those days that you just sit back and from a perspective of analysis, a perspective of going through everything, you can't beat This discussion is kicked off.
Normally we wait, you know, you always after the conventions, after everything else into September, people says, okay, we're all involved.
Well, after last night, most of the political world is now fully involved and the storylines are just massive.
I mean, you think about, you know, the issues here.
We can go to the Democrats and we're going to talk about, you know, their discussions on, you know, Joe Biden good, Joe Biden bad.
Did we have him?
Did we need him?
You know, was James Carville right?
Maybe that's the theme of the day.
The new Democrats were wanting to say that Carville was off his mind.
You know, why are we doing this?
Don't have it.
But then you see the debate last night and Carville, the old school Democrat, comes in.
and and his predictions were true correct they were talking about this is a lagging campaign that they're not connecting and it came into full focus last night but but before we go further and we're going to have full in-depth analysis we're going to go a lot of issues today we got supreme court rulings we need to talk about today we've got the breakdown of this event last night We got the democratic meltdown going on.
But also I want to issue a warning because just today Biden went to North Carolina.
Uh, I guess rested up, you know, monster drink in him or whatever, and then put him in front of a teleprompter and he performed not good from my perspective or anybody else's.
But yet in front of a teleprompter, he did fine.
And you're seeing the media, you're seeing the influencers, you're seeing the people on Twitter and social media are all running to the fact that, um, he is, you know, look how good he did today.
Where was this guy from last night?
All of these issues that we're going to be talking about today.
In fact, I want to hear from you a lot today.
I'm always glad to be with this team, this great team with Sebastian Gorka.
I appreciate America for him letting me be a part here.
And we've got a long time to sit and talk as we get going, but I want your input on this.
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We're going to have plenty of time for calls today and getting you involved.
We're going to have plenty of time for calls today and getting you involved.
But let's, let's just start off at the beginning of where we were a few days ago.
Let's just process this out just a little bit.
Remember, just a few days ago, Karine Jean-Pierre, in addition to her many falsehoods that she tells on everything else in the fantasy world that she spins from the White House press office, she was also leading the charge on fake videos, fake media, all of these things because they were showing Joe Biden in his sort of natural state right now, sort of wandering off, getting distracted, moving along.
And just a little bit ago, if you can remember, Joe Scarborough really taking offense at a lot of what was going on.
In fact, I think we have a clip from Scarborough as Cup One.
Let's listen to Joe Scarborough.
He's far beyond cogent.
In fact, I think he's better than he's ever been intellectually, analytically, because he's been around for 50 years.
And, you know, I don't know if people know this or not, Biden used to be a hothead.
Sometimes that Irishman would get in front of the reasoning.
Sometimes he would say things he didn't want to say.
This is... And I don't really... You know what?
I don't really... Start your tape right now, because I'm about to tell you the truth.
And F you if you can't handle the truth.
This version of Biden Intellectually, analytically, it's the best Biden ever.
Not a close second.
And I've known him for years.
The Brzezinski's have known him for 50 years.
If it weren't the truth, I wouldn't say it.
Okay.
Fast forward to this morning.
Fast forward to this morning and it was not, you know, Blank you if you don't believe me.
It was not Joe Biden's the most mentally agile person that I've ever met before.
None of this with Joe.
And also for y'all out there who remember Joe Scarborough when he actually got started and he supposedly was a Republican.
I mean, for those of us who actually remember the Scarborough country, you know, remember when he was actually a congressman from North Florida who actually undoubtedly had principals at that point who now become, I guess, Manhattan principals in what they're dealing with.
But this is the same Joe Scarborough that got on the TV this morning and basically said, I love Joe Biden.
I don't know what happened to Joe Biden.
It's time to change and think about removing him from the ticket.
And here's you a better one.
You know who the most, uh, the one that was being the most logical on Morning Joe this morning?
Was Mika!
The others were all wringing hands and going through the machinations of death and grieving and all of the things that we've seen from Democrats over the last, you know, 12 hours since the, you know, we even had got 24 at this point, you know, are going through right now.
And she was saying, look, hang on.
It's going to be, it's going to be okay.
You know, we're going to, you know, don't, don't do this.
And, and, and Joe again goes at her and said, you're the only one yelling here.
Well, he's been yelling for months.
This is the Democrat problem here.
You got to deal with the Democrat problem.
The Democrat problem is they've been concerned.
Let me break it down.
They've been so worried about Donald Trump winning again.
And the fact that he could win again, and the fact that Joe Biden's poll numbers are terrible, the fact that he's within eight points, he's single digits in New York.
There was a flash poll I saw today out of New Jersey where he was up one in New Jersey.
I mean, These are very concerning numbers, and yet you had people like Joe Scarborough, you had people like Crane Jean-Pierre from the press pool, you had Casey Hunt, you had all these other, uh, Joy Reid, just go down the list, in the line, saying, no, he's fine, he's fine, and the reason was is because he was always in that presidential bubble where they could protect him.
He never had to step out of that presidential bubble and ask real, answer real questions.
Remember, even the Mirror interview from over in Normandy just from a couple weeks ago, if you watched that interview, he had no stamina to even go.
It was amazing he barely got through that interview.
And there were people saying, is he going to be able to make it 90 minutes?
Well, the answer was last night, he literally made it 90 minutes, but rhetorically, he did not make it 90 minutes.
And I think this is the concern that you're going out of.
Now, you can just say, well, Joe Scarborough is saying this, what else?
Let's go to former Fox, now at CNN, Chris Wallace.
Cut to.
But what accounts for someone with so much experience doing so much preparation and this being the outcome?
Honestly, I think the question answers itself.
He wasn't capable of doing any better than he did.
Well, there's a world where he prepared to not go over the two minutes.
He was incapable tonight, on the biggest of stages, that he sought, he in effect dictated, and with all of that preparation, he was incapable of doing better than he was, and you can't come back from that.
You can't be in a stage where tens of millions of Americans watched you and come up empty, and that's what he did tonight.
Chris Wallace sort of summed it up there.
Did you notice how he was being interrupted there?
He was getting ready to get interrupted and said, oh, he was trying to get to the two minute, you know, making sure that he wasn't going to go over the two minutes.
Joe Biden really had no problem.
And this was an interesting part about this.
Joe Biden had no problem with the clock, neither did Donald Trump for the most part.
And I think that was an interesting quirk of this debate that the Biden team had wanted, you know, the mics cut off, the Biden team had wanted, uh, the, you know, no audience, nothing to feed off of.
And, you know, this became back to, I really think bite them because he was stuck on stage, no help, no nothing.
And you know, as Chris Wallace said there, he said, how do you come back from this?
Now I'm going to take what Chris Wallace said, and we're going to break this down a good bit more as we go through the show today, because I'm going to take it from another perspective.
Not just how does Joe Biden come back from this?
How does, The Democratic paparazzi, and you know who they are from MSNBC, from NBC, CBS, ABC, and the whole Politico, Punchbowl, all the crew on Capitol Hill.
How do they come back from this?
That's going to be the bigger issue with the Chris Wallace.
It's not as much as how does Joe Biden come back from this?
And we still, I mean, we've just scratched the surface here, folks.
We're just getting started on how he comes back.
The real question It's going to be on how the paparazzi come back from this because they've now put them out there in a position.
Look folks, we got a lot coming up.
Lee Zeldin is going to be joining me here in just a minute.
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We're just getting strapped in for the ride.
Glad you're with us.
Want to hear from you.
Let's talk about it.
What you saw, what you didn't see, what we got to do moving forward in this timeframe.
So with that, we're going to come back.
We're going to get more into this.
We'll be right back with your calls and Lee Zeldin here in just a minute.
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Coming on now, we got Lee Zeldin.
Lee's a good friend, good colleague that I had in Congress, but also still should be, I believe, Governor of New York.
We work together on a lot of projects now with Air America First Works, America First Policy Institute.
But today, it's going to be all about some just good old political stuff.
Lee, how we doing, buddy?
It's great to be with you, Doug.
Hey, it's always fun.
Hey, just right off the cuff, last night, I mean, I'm sure you've been talking about it a lot.
What's your gut right now of last night and, you know, follow-up since then?
If you set your lowest possible expectations for Joe Biden, he would have come in at a zero.
Under that, I thought President Trump was ready, serious.
prepared and the contrast was stark between the two of them inside of the Democratic Party.
I can't even imagine the amount of texts and calls and emails of people freaking out.
They nominated the wrong guy.
They should have identified this earlier.
It's not like none of us saw this coming.
They certainly should have saw it coming.
And they went through their primary process, and now Joe Biden is their candidate.
And he's going to not just drag down the race for the White House, he's going to potentially cause a lot of down-ballot effects and the branding of the party.
And what exactly is the future of the party?
If you're running Joe Biden as your nominee for President of the United States, how can you talk about This representing the future of the party.
So they have, I mean, the challenge of how to try to spin this.
We've seen a bad spin in the past, but going forward you just really have to hope that all Americans are smarter than the Democrats give them credit for.
They see through everything that they should see through and make a smart, informed decision in November.
Yeah.
Well, one of the things, Lee, and I want to focus on this today, is we're coming back on this discussion, is that we see all of the, what we'll call the outward signs.
We see the shuffling, we saw the mumbling, we saw the late stares, we saw the just, you know, off into the distance.
But actually, when you peel off that, you also get to some real issues that he spoke of.
For the first time, we now have a president uh... the democrats have actually said in no unequivocal
terms we want to have abortion
with no excuses no reasons and no limitations all the way up until birth
and possibly after if you believe uh... the former governor virginia
uh... he also went into the fact that he had no problem basically with the border
uh... in the sense that what he thinks he has done is good uh... he had no sympathy in many ways for the those who are
have been a victims of crime
uh... and economically he'd still tried to play the fact that that he had
nothing to do with this economy uh... how can we you take not only his bad performance fit
you know from a physical visceral standpoint
but also capitalize on these very large uh...
what you would call is very uh... revealing moments uh...
from a uh...
issue perspective Reach out directly to these Democrat voters, these independents who are out there who are saying that their top issues are related to the border, the economy, crime.
And have a direct conversation about conservative America First solutions to address those issues.
Because there are longtime Democratic voters who have been voting Democrat a long time, and they went into last night's debate open to voting Republican for the first time ever.
And now after last night, they're likely waking up this morning even more ready to hear from us.
What we can't do is make an assumption That these Democratic voters are going to just come around on their own.
Some will.
But to really get the bulk of those gettable votes that are out there, you have to go out and you have to earn it.
And President Trump is rallying the South Bronx.
He was recently in Detroit.
He was in Philadelphia, D.C.
And he keeps getting into these blue cities and talking directly to voters who, as I'm talking about here, you and I get it.
We've had this conversation off air, on air, about how there are long time black voters,
Hispanic voters, Asian voters and more who are disenfranchised by the Democratic Party.
They're being harmed by the Democratic Party and they're ready to try something differently.
Well, I think that's going to be the key here because I don't want people to take from last
night and I'm going to transition here.
I don't know if you caught any of this from last night.
There was this jubilance among our side.
Oh, we always knew he's bad.
We're going to win and then they I'm thinking you're going to see a 2020 redo on the Biden campaign of the basement campaign.
What we'll call it.
Is because he went to New to North Carolina this afternoon.
He 12 today.
He had a rally.
He was the same old Joe Biden still fumbling and mumbling around, but yet he had the teleprompter.
He had nobody asking him questions and he came across his normal Joe here.
We can't.
I think they're going to.
They're going to have to come back to this assumption, not just getting rid of him as the answer, but they're going to have to say, look, we're going to have to sort of go underground here and hope that the Republicans take this for granted.
Yeah, and we have to wake up on a day like today and be motivated to work harder than we worked yesterday.
And same thing when we wake up tomorrow.
Whether there's a good day or a bad day, good poll, bad poll, good debate, bad debate, it doesn't matter.
Use every single development every day as motivation to work harder the next day.
As far as the Democratic strategy, I think that Joe Biden stays I mean, we'll see where the polling looks a week from now, if there's any additional mistakes that get made.
I mean, listen, Joe Biden hasn't gotten a nomination yet, although he's the presumptive nominee, and he's locked up the delegates.
And they have a lot of internal issues, because you can't just simply replace them with someone else, because there's a dispute as to who that should be.
And there are legal challenges as to how to exactly pull that off.
But there's no telling.
Between now and November 5th, how many more horrible strategic mistakes Joe Biden might make?
And it might be as simple as shaking the air or stumbling over a teleprompter or Uh, or falling down steps.
And listen, he's the president of the United States.
You and I both have, you know, we're proud of our service in the military.
We want to see a strong president, a strong commander-in-chief.
But we're also dealing with the reality of what we have right here, and we understand we need a new president.
Yeah, and I think that's it.
Quickly, Lee, before we get out of the bottom of the hour here, one of the things that I think is going to be interesting to see is if the Trump campaign last night, I think Donald Trump was very focused, and I think he picked up early on that Biden was not where Biden needed to be, and I think Donald Trump measured that with his answers, especially in that first 30 to 45 minutes when most people made their decision about this debate.
There was no need to go an hour and a half.
Most people decided in 30 minutes.
But he decided to just let Biden sort of be Biden in his bad way.
And I think that played very well for Donald Trump last night.
Yeah, and his mics were muted.
And there really is more eyes on body language and facial expressions at this point because it wasn't going to be words from President Trump that you're going to hear as President Biden was speaking.
So President Biden, he's trying to land a blow and then Yep.
It is.
the audience will look at President Trump, try to see if there's confirmation that the
blow has landed.
And every time that I looked over at President Trump, it looked like these punches were just
falling off of him.
And it looked like, it wasn't a smirk on President Trump's face, it was just that look of confidence
that I just can't wait until it's my turn to speak again because I'm about to punch
back.
Ladies and gentlemen, you knocked it out of the park as always.
Brother, go have a great weekend.
We'll look forward to having you back on again.
Folks, we'll be coming back here in just a minute.
We'll be taking your calls.
That's Doug Collins filling in for Seb Gorka here on America First.
Thanks for watching.
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Alright, we're back banging our head just like Joe Biden did for 90 minutes last night.
Banging his head, trying to get the cobwebs out.
Never could seem to do it.
But, and again, as we were just talking to our good friend Lee Zeldin, I think the big thing was also is Donald Trump led him.
There's an old adage, if your opponent is committing political suicide, you don't have to push.
And Donald Trump didn't have to push last night.
And he did real well.
We'll dig into some deeper answers on that.
But I've been telling you, I wanted to hear from you today.
Let's start off with Sean in New York City.
Sean, welcome to America First.
Colin, I love your accent.
Sir, I just wanted to say that, you know, Trump does not have to get into another debate Uh, all we should do is just set the terms and say, listen, we were in your barn.
You had home ice advantage.
You had your crew as the moderators.
I want the same.
And let's see where it goes.
I also would like to say that, uh, you know, Trump should have, after he was going back to the previous questions and giving his followup, he should have given a short answer.
For instance, just in his example, they were saying, okay, what are you going to do about lowering the cost for childcare?
Whatever it is, all he had to say was, look, We're going to lower inflation.
We're going to have growth.
And then people will be able to afford things.
That was the only critique I had of him.
Other than that, he was pretty good.
John, I don't disagree with you.
I do have a question for you.
Did it surprise you?
I've said this before.
He was focused last night.
He gave a good answer.
His abortion answer was good.
His immigration answer was good.
I think as the debate went on, both of them sort of got back into some old habits.
But I think the first 35 minutes set the tone.
Was you expecting that from Trump?
And did maybe the mic issue have a play in that?
No, I thought he overall was much more disciplined than he was in 2020.
And of course, in 2020, he was also sick.
He had COVID.
A lot of people forget.
He was under a lot of stress with that.
When Biden was hitting him about COVID, I thought it was very good that he said, you lost more people under COVID than I did.
But what he should have said was, listen, COVID was not my fault.
All the countries around the world suffered, but you opened the border and you have blood on your hands.
That's where he really has to hit him.
Yeah, I agree.
Hey, look, you know, it's also the thing about it.
I was always asked, how do you handle the convicted felon?
Donald Trump could look at him and say, I was convicted in a kangaroo court in New York, but the special prosecutor found that you were incompetent to stand trial.
Sean, thanks for joining us today.
Great points on that.
But look, if a Fox interview is going to happen, we'll see what they have to say on that.
But I'm not sure that that would, you know, it couldn't play.
Donald Trump, after last night, Blessings to you, Doug.
debate Joe Biden again. This is not. And so it's gonna be interesting to see how
that other debate plays out, especially the next little bit.
Brent in LA. Brent, welcome to the show. Blessings to you, Doug. It's always
good to be with you. As a Jew, I feel terrified by the devil's democracy of the Democrats.
That bloodbath Biden would invent slander and broadcast a gerbils-like lie
linking our righteous and courageous President Trump to Adolf Hitler is
especially evil, egregious and inexcusable when in fact President Trump is the greatest
benefactor to the world's Jews since President Harry Truman.
And I want President Trump to ask Jihadi Joe why, as a supporter and multi-billion dollar funder of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran, intent on delivering the thermonuclear final solution to 6 million Jews in the God-given land of Israel, why Biden and the Democrats should not be identified as the true heirs to Adolf Hitler.
Yeah, Brent, thanks for the call.
That was also something I thought that was very interesting last night, Brent.
You brought it out that Joe Biden last night did something a little bit later in the debate,
about an hour into the debate, when he went after the comments that have been now debunked,
not just debunked on Snoop, Snoopstockcom, whatever it is, but also the main networks
have also said that's not what he said about both sides in the context of that.
But yet Joe Biden doubled and tripled down and also implied the Nazi-esque kind of theme
in that is going forward.
And it was interesting to me that even after, even last night, you saw it even from the
moderators, whether you want to give them credit or not, basically said, you know, that
wasn't true.
And Joe Biden went right back to it after Donald Trump said, you're lying.
You are lying about that.
You know you're lying about that.
You know, here goes Joe Biden putting it right back in.
So I think when you look at this debate last night, and we've heard from Sean and Brent both, I think in these interesting issues here, The debate should set the table for what we as conservatives need to do.
Those of us in the America First movement need to be out there now talking about and bringing in voters who may not have been listening.
Lee Zeldin said that great, and it's why Lee Zeldin came so close in New York in such an interesting governor's race there, is because he was willing to go to voters who were willing to listen.
Democrats are taking advantage of people's ignorance or willful ignorance or even just passive ignorance about what's going on and then telling them what they want to hear.
Donald Trump and America First, we have a chance now to go and say, look, you know, look what's happened to Israel.
Look what's happened in our country.
When we do that, then we actually win.
We'll be right back.
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Doug Collins filling in for the great Sebastian Gorka here on America First.
We'll be right back.
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Oh, here we go.
We're just getting fired up for a Friday.
I am glad.
And we're getting into a short week next week.
Got a lot of stuff going on.
And I am coming off of a summer cold.
I don't know about you, but you do not want a summer cold.
I am telling you.
It is not fun.
Um, but I do have to point out something here and I know our listeners all across the country and especially our great listeners here in the state of Georgia.
It was something happened earlier this week and it was, uh, a couple of Democrats because that's what they are now.
Um, the, by their own choice, uh, former Lieutenant governor of Georgia, Jeff Duncan and Adam Kinzinger, former member of Congress who came to Georgia to fly into it, basically an empty Capitol in Georgia and endorsed Joe Biden.
Wow.
Do not be getting lottery number picks from those two.
I don't think that is a very good idea at this point.
But just to let you know, it's not always as bad as you think.
For everybody, some actually have it worse.
We're back on the phones now.
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And we've got Judy in Pittsburgh.
How we doing, Judy?
Hey, Doug.
Good to talk to you.
Are you ready for a weird idea?
Judy, you bringing a weird idea.
I'm sitting down, so let's go.
From a skeptical old lady.
I think the whole thing last night was a cheap fake, as Kareem Jean-Pierre likes to say.
I know it sounds stupid, but I think the whole thing was a show.
After hearing Biden refer to Donald Trump as Something about having the morals of an alley cat.
It's like, you know, there's that Joe Biden is just a nasty old man.
And he's been nasty from probably from the day he was born.
But ever since he got in front of into into Congress, he's just nasty, nasty.
And they're all power trippers.
And I don't know what why they would let something like that take place.
Yesterday in front of the whole audience.
What was the purpose of that exercise?
I can't figure that out, but I know that there is nothing that they won't do.
If it's going to benefit them in one way, shape or form.
Judy, I don't think you're wrong at that at all.
You're, you're, you're right.
I think you're, you're looking at it deeply.
Thanks for giving us a call.
But I mean, Judy brings up a point.
What was the, I mean, remember though, let's go back here.
It's easy to look at this in, in terms of right now and yesterday, but go back about a month and a half ago when they actually came up with this event and look, nobody actually thought it would happen.
And yes, it did happen.
They were looking at poll numbers that were telling him the border is killing me, immigration is killing him, his trust is lost, we're having a lot of issues.
The only thing that they could think of to bounce back to show that he was a presidential material was to have a debate.
So they got their buddies at CNN, they got everything they wanted, and Trump called their bluff, and this is what happened last night.
So, look, they can't blame anybody but themselves on this one.
And, you know, it's going to be interesting.
We're not going to get into it a little bit later about this is going to be hard for them to remove.
Democrats have got a real, real problem right here.
Phil in Philly!
Glad to have you, buddy.
This is Doug Collins filling in for Sebastian Gorka.
What's up?
Thank you for taking my call, Congressman.
In my humble opinion, I believe, and we watched this last night, that this was done for one person and one person only.
And this debate was done for Joe Biden to replay to him later on and say, Joe, look, you're not the man you used to be.
You're getting in the way of our, you know, our next set of eight, maybe 12 year run in the Democratic Party.
You've got to step aside, Joe.
And, hey, Doug, this is not about President Trump anymore.
This is about after Trump.
I mean, he was an unconventional president, so why doesn't he do something unconventional for us, for Americans that love him deeply, and let us have a say-so on who the VP pick is going to be.
Get five of these people up on it and let them hammer it out, and one person that's got to be up there, Doug, is Kathy Barnett.
I mean, she's a mom, a veteran, she's the firebrand, she loves this country, she checks every box.
And I'm telling you, the nation will fall in love with this lady.
She loves this country.
And it's my suggestion, but maybe let us take a pick because it's about the next
eight years after Donald Trump.
It's not about Trump over the next four.
Yeah.
Phil, I think you got a point there.
Thanks for giving us a call.
Look, all right, we're going to weigh in on VP stakes.
Look, I know that we've not really talked about this.
It gives me a chance to weigh in on it here as we go.
I think there was a remote possibility that by today you would have seen a Vice presidential pick made by Donald Trump, if for some reason CNN just went full CNN last night and botched the debate and tried to make it all look bad for Donald Trump, I think that could have been a possibility that we could have seen today.
Because he was leading up to it a little bit, they were teasing it a lot.
I think now that pick is going to come a lot closer to July convention time frame.
I'm going to be a little bit different.
I know that others on this show have said J.D.
Vance.
I think J.D.
Vance is considered.
I think he brings some things to the table that are important.
I'm not sure that he's going to be the pick.
I think Doug Burgum because of some of the similarities.
With Donald Trump, also with the financial possibilities with Doug Burgum, the executive experience, I think you're going to see that is still out there.
I don't think it's going to be from Florida.
I'm really one of those that just does not believe it's going to be Marco Rubio or Byron Donaldson.
Byron Donaldson is a dear friend of mine.
Good guy.
I just, because of electoral issues, I'm just not sure that's going to happen.
I think there's still some consideration on is the possibility of a female on the ticket, at least Stefanik, is definitely being disconsidered out there.
But I'm just going to lay one out there.
I'm going to still lay it out there.
It probably won't.
I've talked to her dad.
I've been on his show.
And that's Sarah Huckabee.
I know she's just getting settled in and out there, but she provides a clear voice.
She's a very loyal ally of Donald Trump.
She has a good record so far in Arkansas.
Whether she would want to leave that is going to be an issue.
But Phil brings up a great point.
We're both parties right now are looking to this election and through this election Because you're this is this is an eight-year.
This is the the term after that.
That's why the vice presidential debate I've been asked about that.
Will there be a vice presidential debate?
I believe that they will be definitely a vice presidential debate and it's going to have implications far far beyond what we have Mario got a chance to get you in rock quick here Mario.
What's going on?
A lot of topics, but I'll touch on a few.
The reason why Joe Biden and Democrats... Hey, Mario, Mario, let's do this.
Mario, let's just do this, because I just got a call.
I want you to get in for a second.
We'll bring you back in in just a second to get this.
I don't want to... I want you to get at least a little bit more time, and I got about 45 seconds here, so I don't want to cut you off, okay?
Thank you.
So just hang on, just hang on.
Back to my point real quickly.
This is a problem that the Democrats and Republicans are going to be looking at.
Democrats have the bigger issue is because even if they wanted to get rid of Joe Biden.
They have a lot of mechanical problems to it.
And also, though, which Democrat will be willing to step up in front of the Trump train this year and take a chance on not being ready for 2028?
I think that's the big problem they got.
Harris is their only topic, and she is not there.
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I don't think that Joe Biden needed to pour sugar poured on him.
I think he needed sugar put in his veins last night because he was not doing all that well.
All right.
I promised you, Mario, that you'd be able to get in at least a little bit more of your conversation.
We don't have a long break here, but let's get at it.
Go at it.
Yeah.
The reason why Democrats can say anything they like is because I believe they think That most of their voters are imbeciles, to include a lot of suburban housewives.
And the rest of them are either Marxists or Communists.
Like today's crowd in North Carolina, cheering and yelling.
Probably all patronage job people that were given the day off.
No one attends this guy's rallies.
He's a walking empty suit.
I don't get it.
This bunch that's in the White House, that has done what they've done to this country, wouldn't even need a resume to be hired by Joseph Stalin's regime, in Stalin's Russia.
They would be perfect fits.
And that includes one of the chief henchmen, would be Barack Obama.
The reason why he's tweeting, that Joe did, you know, a little weak, but he's, I love him, he's a great guy.
He doesn't want to lose his part-time manipulator job.
Yeah, and that's basically why they get away with everything.
They truly believe that.
And I know it's hard no to say no to free stuff, which is what they do.
They've been giving a lot of these people the vote on free stuff since our old racist buddy, Lyndon Johnson, decided that's the best way to go.
Yeah, I got it.
Yeah, I'm serious.
Let me jump in here because we got just a little bit of time trying to get one more call in.
But Mario, look, they've got this.
They believe for years in inner cities that they can tell them whatever they want.
They give them whatever they want and they get the vote.
That's the problem the Democrats are now having to overcome because Donald Trump's going in there and saying, look, you've been treated this way all this long.
I mean, you're still in bad shape.
What can you do worse by talking to me?
You can't do any worse than what you're doing.
Marla, thanks for the call.
Charlotte, real quick, I got you in Pittsburgh.
Got a lot of our Pennsylvania friends today.
You got a quick question before we go to break here.
I listened to an alternative radio station this morning and they were talking about what the Democrats would do.
And the guy who says he has insiders to tell him is that they're going to go to the convention and nominate Biden Okay.
But they're not going to have an open floor.
And then they'll have the superdelegates, which are the state chairs, nominate someone
else.
They're going to go to the convention and put Biden in and let the delegates commit
their vote.
And then the super chairs will intervene and change the candidate.
That's something that Hillary Clinton established in 2016 when she wanted to make sure there was no trouble from the Bernie Sanders people.
So the DNC came up with those super delegates.
I agree.
Charlotte, I mean, it's an interesting idea.
Actually, thanks for the call.
That actually goes back to the 2006 election in which Hillary Clinton again had a hand in that with Obama.
Look, they've got a lot of other structural issues they've got to deal with.
In fact, right after the first of the hour, we're going to dig into those problems right now.
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That's exactly where we're at in this world today, mainly because of what we've seen out of the Biden administration.
I've got a call, I'm going to go to Dick here in just a minute, but before we get there, there's a last caller, and I want to go through this with you very quickly, but we can break it out a little bit further.
There's a lot of discussion right now, and we've talked about it from the Democrats' perspective on the fact that they're, you know, the talking heads, the pundits, and everybody are saying they need to get Joe Biden off the ticket.
Only Joe Biden can get himself off the ticket, and even if that happens, there's already some issues developing in states like Nevada, Wisconsin, and some others in which they have timeframes on when you can get off of the ballot.
Also as a reminder, The Democrats are going to have to do basically nominate Joe Biden before their convention because they slept on the issue of the fact that Ohio had to have a nominee transmitted to them by a number of days out before the election.
So on August the 7th, The Democrats are going to be doing a virtual nomination process for Joe Biden so they can technically submit those names in the state like Ohio for consideration for the ballot.
This is how messed up this has actually become.
So, it's not as easy as, you know, all the talking heads and Joe Scarborough and Van Jones and everybody crying that they don't want to have Joe Biden on the ticket anymore.
And it's not the, you know, the vast conspiracy.
Joe Biden, and more importantly, and look, if you blame last night on those around Joe Biden, like Jill Biden and the Associates and the members of the White House and on the campaign team who have their meal ticket tied up in Joe Biden, They don't want to see him go anywhere.
And today they brought him back out enough to where, you know, at least you can say, look, he's, you know, he made it through a rally.
Keep him away from that mean old Donald Trump and keep him away from the mean old media and we'll be okay here.
Um, that's what they're depending on.
So look, it's not going to be an easy just to move him out.
It's got to come from him and it's got to come from, you know, really the gatekeepers that are around him, Jill Biden and family members, and also those who have a financial stake in Joe Biden.
Um, this isn't just as simple as saying, look, he terrible in a debate last night.
We're going to kick him off, uh, the ticket.
So a lot, uh, to, to deal with here, a lot going on into this.
Uh, we're going to dig into, uh, some more of the stuff, uh, last night.
I do want to say this though.
If you, one of the things that summed it up, one of the best moments last night for, for me was, uh, in it.
And what I say is the tone and temperament of Donald Trump came and, uh, when he was.
mumbling when Joe Biden was mumbling and Donald Trump had this expression, it's cut five.
We're going to move until we get the total ban on the total initiative relative to what
we're going to do with more border patrol and more asylum officers.
I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence.
I don't think he knows what he said either.
I mean, there was your mic drop moment right there.
That was the moment that, you know, again, it highlighted the mumbling Joe Biden.
And if you, and look, I was one of those last night that I haven't shared this before.
I listened to this debate.
I did not have a chance to watch it.
I was coming back from Columbus, Georgia.
Our great friends down there, um, who were opening a Trump, uh, headquarters and we opened it last night and I was coming home.
So I got to listen to the debate and I had friends of mine saying, and I kept saying, this is not good.
And they said, wait, you hadn't even seen the video of this and that video clip.
If you're looking at watching this on rumble, you saw Joe, uh, Donald Trump just sort of look at him like.
Uh-huh.
But, and again, the, the way that Donald Trump handled that, he didn't jump on it.
He didn't yell.
He didn't do anything.
He said, I don't really know what he said.
I mean, and I don't think he knows what he said.
So, uh, I think we're seeing a lot of that coming out of today and, uh, let's jump back into it.
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Looks like we have Dick from Dayton.
Dick, how we doing?
Hey Doug, how you doing today, buddy?
Hey, we're rocking and rolling today.
This is a good day to talk politics and to see, uh, get us all together.
But you know, I watched it last night.
Being here from Ohio, you know, I know you're from Pittsburgh and I'm up there, but I just didn't figure out.
I thought it was, uh, I know Trump stood up, but I just thought it was a joke on America.
I mean, I don't think this president has got any Nobody likes him.
He's not following the American dream.
And we're in bad shape, Doug, unless something is done to America that they get this back to the decoration that founding fathers of the dream of America and not this hate for America.
You know what I'm saying?
I agree.
Dick, you're right on target.
Thanks for calling.
And Ohio's going to play such a big part there.
It was embarrassing.
And I think, in fact, there was a clip last night, I'm not sure if I have it here and I'm talking about it, that, you know, Donald Trump even talked about this.
Oh yeah, it's cut six.
Go to cut six.
I want y'all to hear this.
When Donald Trump was talking about this issue that, you know, it basically, he didn't want to be here if you were actually, you know, doing your job.
Play cut six.
I wish he was a great president because I wouldn't be here right now.
I'd be at one of my many places enjoying myself.
I wouldn't be under indictment because I wouldn't have been his political opponent.
Because he indicted me because I was his opponent.
I wish he was a great president.
I would rather have that.
I wouldn't be here.
I don't mind being here.
The only reason I'm here is he's so bad as a president.
That I'm going to make America great again.
We're going to make America great again.
We're a failing nation right now.
We're a seriously failing nation.
And we're a failing nation because of him.
His policies are so bad.
His military policies are insane.
They're insane.
These are wars that will never end with him.
He will drive us into World War 3, and we're closer to World War 3 than anybody can imagine.
We are very, very close to World War 3, and he's driving us there.
And Kim Jong-un, and President Xi of China, Kim Jong-un of North Korea, all of these are Putin.
They don't respect him.
They don't fear him.
They have nothing going with this gentleman, and he's going to drive us into World War 3.
I mean, that was just an amazing statement there and the way he did it.
And folks, again, like you said, if you, if you were like me and you only saw that on audio, it was powerful, but it doesn't do justice to what actually happened last night.
Because if you look at that video is we just showed it on the screen is Joe Biden is looking down.
He's looking away.
His mouth is open.
His eyes are dilated.
I mean, it's just, he's just not there.
But what he said there about our military, and I think Donald Trump, uh, Emphasize this over and over and it really got under Joe Biden's skin because as someone who's in the military and been around the military most of my adult life yeah there is a grand fondness for Donald Trump and not Joe Biden and that's not he's not a hundred percent it's not universal nothing ever is but with inside the military communities and especially the veteran community Donald Trump is very much appreciated for what he's done and what he has said that leads us into our another call we're glad to have Texas checking into the house Roy calling in from Dallas
Yes, sir.
Thank you for taking my call.
I saw a few things in last night's so-called debate.
Among those, Joe Biden said he did many things for the veterans versus what Trump did during his presidency.
Well, Trump, he went into the Veterans Affairs and he heard so many complaints and saw so many matters
in which our veterans were not getting the proper care and treatment, and he fired those people.
But what did Biden do when he came back into the presidency?
He hired those people back.
He gave them their jobs back again.
And that's not helping the veterans and the Veterans Affairs, absolutely not.
Then also, has he talked to those guys in El Paso, Texas or down there in the Valley?
I do because I'm a retired member of law enforcement.
And he hasn't got the support of those guys in El Paso and the South portions of Texas.
He doesn't even have support from the law enforcement here in Texas.
Because he said, he bragged that he did so much for hiring, getting more officers hired and on the streets.
That is not true.
Roy, you've hit it.
One of the things that I want to point out, thanks for giving us a call and space to just keep the great state of Texas rolling down there, but one of the things that he said last night that was fact-checked immediately, not by CNN, not by CBS, not by NBC, Fox, ABC, or anybody else, it was fact-checked by the U.S.
Border Patrol Association, was we have never endorsed Joe Biden for president and never will.
They popped that out, I mean just right after he said it.
Most amazing line of the night and it just sort of summed it all up for Joe Biden.
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We're almost halfway through the show and we have not even broken a good sweat yet, folks.
This is it.
I mean, get some good ZZ Top, get some Leonard Skinner.
We're going to break a sweat because we're getting ready for some more calls as we go about this debate last night, the future of it, as we go forward.
Scott in Houston, down in Houston.
How are you doing, buddy?
I'm doing good, Mr. Collins.
I just, I got two things if you let me real quick.
You said that it's not easy to replace him because there's rules.
My question is, do you really think the Democrats will play by the rules?
You don't think they'll try and use the court and say, hey, this is actually just circumstances.
You have to allow us to do what we want to do or else you're interfering with Free and fair elections.
I mean, I just, I don't see them playing by the rules.
Well, here's the problem, uh, you know, Scott, thanks for calling.
You know, the problem is, is this, is it's not an issue of their own internal rules.
It's an issue of state law.
And in many of the states, you can't be taken off the ballot for, uh, in some of the cases that we even have a death issue that you can't even be taken off the ballot.
So look, they're going to have a real hard time unless he beforehand gets, uh, and says, I'm look, I'm out.
And I think that's going to be your issue.
But Scott, you also bring up another point here, and I'm going to bring this up right now.
I am sick and tired.
And last night, the CNN tried to help Joe Biden along to talk about J6, talk about democracy, which, by the way, the Supreme Court ruled that one of the charges for many of these J6s was not even applicable to what they went into.
But the other issue that bothers me greatly is that the Democrats want to lecture us about democracy.
They wanted to lecture us down here in Georgia about our Senate Bill 202, which actually strengthened our election process, which actually, after instituting a signature and an actual ID verification for absentee battling, cut down on our issues and possibilities of fraud, and we made better elections because of it.
These are the kind of things I'm tired of.
Joe Biden in his red speech in Philadelphia actually talking about how that is the old Jim Crow laws.
It is how Republicans want to take away the right to vote for minorities.
That is just bull hogwash, malarkey, whatever you want to do it, Joe Biden, you're lying through your teeth and you probably not even sure you are.
But we know that you're lying because that's not what happens in these elections.
And when we come forward here, You now have all your Democrats.
Joe, these are your Democrats.
They're not my Democrats.
I don't have Democrats.
You've got Democrat members in your party who are wanting to take you off of the ballot.
They want to remove the votes of the primary voters in this country over the last six months, and they're wanting to remove you from the ballot.
Is that not sort of the biggest hypocrisy lately?
Oh, wait.
I'm sorry.
We're talking about Democrats.
Nobody cares about hypocrisy on your side because nobody's going to call you on it.
For all of the MSNBC criers this morning, for all the CNN criers this morning, for all the NBC criers and all the ABC and CBS and online and everybody else out there, your paid influencers who are crying about last night and saying, can we remove Joe Biden from the ballot?
Cry me even a bigger river because you are a fraud, fake, and a phony.
Don't ever let the word democracy come out of your mouth again.
By the way, we're a public.
Look it up.
And when you understand that, don't let me talk about how you want to keep people from voting or how the voters vote don't count because you're willing to put all of those hundreds of thousands of millions of voters who voted for Joe Biden in the primary because y'all were the ones that put him up as the Democratic candidate You're wanting to take him off now because he had a bad night at the debate.
Cry me a river.
I am sick of it.
Do not come forward.
There should never be another person on any mainstream media, New York Times, Washington Post, any of those other wonderful little rags that come out here and talk about the threat to democracy that Republicans bring to the table without mentioning the outright assault on these voting processes by Democrats who want to remove Joe Biden.
If you think I'm wrong and you're a liberal, you're first in line.
Representative Collins, great to talk to you.
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With that, there you go, Tom from Chicago.
There's your introduction.
Welcome to the show.
Representative Collins.
Great to talk to you.
Uh, I wanted to make, if you remember when I, this president accepted the, uh,
the challenge to debate president Trump, he made a specific comment, a smart
comment about maybe we can do it on a Wednesday.
I hear you're available on Wednesdays because Biden's DOJ was prosecuting President Trump.
Well, he got his debate and karma kicked him right in the teeth, sir.
Hey, I love it.
Maybe Joe Biden don't want to debate on Thursdays.
Maybe that was the problem, you know, as we go here.
Tom, look, you've hit it perfectly.
Thanks for calling in.
I mean, this is the problem with the Democrats.
They have no self-awareness.
They depend on voters believing everything they say.
They depend on making comments like that about President Trump because nobody's going to follow up.
There's a long saying in politics that presidents in first term debates, first debates in their first relay, have issues because they've never been challenged.
They're like a spoiled child.
For three and a half years, the fawning press follows them around, never really questions.
They can be limited from actually talking to him.
They can do whatever interviews they want to do and not talk about things that they don't want to talk about.
And then finally, you have a debate in which, look, CNN was his own platform, his own rules, his everything else, but Jake Tapper and Dana Bash actually asked questions.
Here's the sad part.
And there was a big to-do online and social media today about CNN admitting they gave him questions.
I don't think that's what the person meant when they said he knew what the questions were going to be.
The questions are going to be pretty simple.
You and me, we could have sat here on a show with Seb Gorka and we could have picked them out.
They're going to talk about J6, they're going to talk about democracy, they're going to talk about abortion, they're going to talk about immigration, they're going to talk about China, they're going to talk about taxes.
Anybody who's ever been in this thing, and for folks like myself who've ran for office, who've done these question-answer sessions, frankly, they're not debates.
So, let's get over the fact that you think it's a debate.
A debate is actually me stating a premise, you arguing your premise and why you differ from me, and then I say, no, this is where you missed up, you didn't take this into account, and we go back into a debate.
That's a debate.
This is a question-answer session.
Okay?
It's not a debate.
And all you got to do is, you know, time your lines.
I mean, look, how many times do you think then in, uh, if you were a fly on the wall in Camp David over the past few weeks with the 16 advisors that were advising Joe Biden.
How many times do you think the term morals of an alley cat came out of that conversation?
Don't think that Joe Biden thought that up on his own last night in the middle of a pressure pack debate.
He had been waiting.
He had been practicing.
He had been told when to say it, how to say it, what the tone should be.
That's why these debates are, you know, not debates.
They're question answer session in which you look strong or you actually try to make the other person look weak.
walked into a buzzsaw last night of his own choosing and his own making.
And Donald Trump actually laid it out for him and said, Joe, this is yours.
You're walking down it.
You own it.
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Maybe that's what it felt like down at CNN last night.
Thunderstruck.
Maybe that's what happened.
I heard there was some rain down in Midtown yesterday.
Maybe it was a thunderstruck that happened.
What did happen was a thunderstruck that has put the Biden campaign on its heels and made Democrats across the country begin to really question a lot of what's going on.
This is Doug Collins filling in for Sebastian Gorka here on America First.
Glad to have you with us.
He'll be back soon, but I'm glad to fill in, especially on such a day in which, you know, really nothing's going on.
I mean, it's amazing.
I've talked with the guys.
We, by the way, keep cranking out killer music and also keeping your calls screened so I can get to them.
Great guys, but it's like, you know, hey, we got stuff to talk about today.
It's going to be a debate.
Speaking of the debate last night, Chris from Columbus, Ohio would like to weigh in.
Chris, what's going on?
Hi there, Mr. Collins.
I just wanted to change the subject a little bit with the debate regarding President Trump.
I'm a huge fan, huge supporter, but as a women's health nurse practitioner, I was a little bit concerned because of the fact that he was asked the daycare question twice and it was It was avoided probably just because there's bigger global issues and I understand but I do feel like we need the suburban moms.
We need their vote.
And I feel like at some point these these domestic issues have to be addressed because I deal with women every day that are contemplating not even having children because they literally cannot afford to, you know, work and stay home or both or have, you know, one or two income.
So it is a concern because I know in the past we've had issues with the suburban moms and I just want to win them over because I feel regardless we need their vote.
Yeah, Chris, look, I understand your point there and I don't disagree with you at all.
I think my problem was where the question came in the debate and at the timing of the debate we were into this back and forth over budgets and back and forth over who's the better president and some of this other issue and it got lost.
There's an art to this, Chris, and I thank you for calling, by the way.
Thank you so much for hanging on, because I was really wondering where you were going with
that question. But there's an art to this debate, and I think, frankly, it's a good issue
that you're right, needs to be discussed.
It was just brought up at the wrong time in this debate.
And also, I'll throw both of them a lifeline.
Neither one of them answered the question.
Neither Biden nor Trump answered the question.
I think Donald Trump could have said, look, we're going to make the economy better so that the economy is better, so people have better jobs, they can make more money, and they'll be able to afford child care, and that we're going to bring down inflation so that other costs of other items, you know, won't be as impactful.
I think that could have been a simple answer to that.
Uh, you know, he could talk about some of the stuff that, uh, he did in his first term with the child, you know, tax credits and things that were pushed.
There were things that could, but I think sometimes when you're in the middle of a debate and someone who's been there on several occasions, you get a question that frankly just doesn't fit.
It's the square peg in the round hole and maybe putting it another time in the debate would have probably been answered better.
But yes, we need to, uh, to, to basically pick out.
Peter in California.
that people are affecting. I think that's why immigration, the inflation, the
economy all are such on high list and that would of course include you know
taking care of your family. So Chris thanks for bringing it up. I think the
problem was when it was done and then you know in the middle of the discussion
that was was happening. So again thanks for that. All right Peter in California
what what part of California you calling from Peter? Hi Doug I'm from Orange
California. Live in Orange County, Phil
Pendleton, WKYT.
There you go.
I like it.
I've been out there many times.
First, I'm so overjoyed that the Chevron deference has been overturned by the Supreme Court.
It's a major and necessary decision.
Laws that affect the lives of Americans need to be made by us legislators that have the answer to the public, not unlected individuals.
The administrative state has grown out of control.
Second, regarding the debate, I believe Donald Trump won it.
He did better than expected.
He was more disciplined.
He did a great job calling out the Russia hoax and the Charlottesville hoax.
The horrendous, dishonest, biased, pathetic mainstream media, which did everything possible to cover up for Biden and the Democrat Party, are now reversing course, knowing that the American people saw that Biden failed during this debate.
Third, Michelle Obama or Westmore or Gretchen Weber will be the Democrats' nominee in 2024.
All right.
Well, buddy, you covered enough that we could have a whole show on that.
Uh, Peter, thanks for calling.
Let me just hit your questions.
Uh, Peter, thanks for calling.
Number one, uh, the Chevron doctrine.
Yes.
I mean, we're going to try and talk about that in the five o'clock hour.
Please stick around, Peter.
We're going to, I'm going to try and get to that.
The abortion question and then the Supreme court decision on Chevron to a huge issues that we've not discussed today.
I want to get to those, uh, here in just a minute.
Um, I think the Michelle Obama question, Gretchen Whitmer question go to this bigger issue of will they be able to actually remove Joe Biden?
I personally don't think they will.
Also, I don't think that Michelle Obama wants to run for president.
I don't think Gretchen Whitmer will run because she don't want to waste her chance for quote 2028 along with Gavin Newsom and others.
So we'll see how that, you know, goes forward.
In looking at this in through the debate eyes, the main issues that I see here.
So look, we got a lot coming up in just a minute.
We're going to continue to be back with our Second Amendment Friday as we go forward.
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Doing great. Great to talk to you again. Thanks for having me on.
Hey, it's always good to talk to you.
Hey, look, one of the things that's been very frustrating for me, and you and I have talked a lot about this, is the regulations, the Biden gun regulations, the mass shootings, the issues that were passed two years ago by basically very weak Republicans who allowed the bills to go through just a couple years ago after the Texas shooting.
The problem we have is they do nothing Well, I mean, the types of regulations that they put forward just make it a lot more difficult for law-abiding citizens to be able to go and own guns.
And as you say, they don't deal with the basic problem.
The media refuses to go and talk about the diaries and manifestos of these mass murderers that explain why they pick the targets that they do.
You know, you have something like the Nashville Shooters manifesto or diary that was just Finally revealed about two weeks ago in that she describes how she was thinking about going after other targets.
Her first target was the Greenfield Mall there in Nashville, but they had armed people there, so she didn't want to go there.
And then she looked at two other targets and they had armed security.
So she picked the Covenant schools there because there was nobody there to go and protect it.
And that's what you see time after time after time in these guys.
Maybe crazy, but they're not stupid.
They're overwhelmingly, like that mass murderer, suicidal.
They feel unappreciated or what have you.
And they want to get media attention.
And they know the more people they kill, the more media attention they're going to be able to go and get.
And so they know if they go to a place where their victims aren't going to be able to go and defend themselves, they're going to be able to go and kill more people and get more media attention.
Yeah, I have to say Biden was the guy who sponsored the 1990 law that was the gun-free school zone act.
OK, the notion that somehow he would go and realize that maybe that type of law actually caused the problems that we're talking about here.
But instead of trying to go and undo that type of legislation,
the solution seems to be to double down and have even more regulations and restrictions
on people having guns.
But you know, the legislation that you're talking about, one of the things, they're just having some new regulations
that they're just putting in place that would essentially define virtually everybody
as a firearms dealer.
If you go and sell one gun and even talk to somebody else about selling a second gun, you're a firearms dealer.
If you sell one gun and keep the paperwork on what you sold it for.
And so you're a firearms dealer, just selling one gun.
And then there's all this gray area where they'll kind of know whether you're a firearms dealer when they see it.
But you know, they claim that this is important for keeping their national gun registry that they've been putting together, because somehow that's going to be useful in solving crimes.
We've had places in the United States, like Hawaii, that's had registration licensing of guns since 1960.
They can't point to one single crime that they've been able to solve as a result of those policies.
And yet Honolulu alone has said that it takes 50,000 hours worth of police time each year for them to go and run the program.
Think how many crimes you could have solved or prevented if you had taken that 50,000 hours of police time and used them for things that we know work in law enforcement rather than Having them thrown away in something where they can't even point to one crime that they've been able to solve.
Well, and I think that's the other part.
Let's just take, I want to continue on that same train of thought there, because we're talking a lot about crime and the crime statistics, but I wanted to also say that the other problem is simply adding more, quote, statutes to the books is not solving the issue because we're not even prosecuting much of what's already on the books.
Right.
Well, I mean, you look at a lot of these sororous prosecutors, like Alvin Bragg, who's been in the news recently because of his trial against Trump.
He's reduced 60% of felonies.
He's reduced the charges on him.
overwhelmingly, those are assaults, aggravated assaults with weapons.
But he's refusing to go and prosecute criminals for weapons offenses.
And so what he's done is he's taking what would have been an aggravated assault and
reduced it to a misdemeanor simple assault that's there because he won't prosecute him
for a weapons offense and an assault.
Well, and I think that's the part that everybody gets so frustrated about.
Look, going back, and you mentioned that again, that people don't understand, and this is the part that has got to be changed.
I want to see this changed.
You know, when Trump wins, and we go back into this with these regulations that DOJ and ATF and others, this idea that I sell a gun and I'm a firearms dealer is just ludicrous.
But you can think, frankly, folks like John Cornyn and others in the United States Senate that pushed this thing through.
Yeah, well, Cornyn's responsible for this going through.
He was the one that was in charge of negotiations.
He also had a part in the Bipartisan Community Safety Act that would have let the Biden administration strip any federal funding from public schools that had an archery team or a riflery team or had a hunter safety class that was there.
Fortunately, that was overridden because That was too much for the rest of Congress when they realized what had been negotiated there.
To me, John, thanks for everything.
That puts him not even in consideration for Majority Leader in the Senate.
We take the Senate back.
John, thanks for all the information.
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Um, the one of the things I love about Donald Trump is Donald Trump typically has no filter and his little, he gets in sort of remarks, especially in some of these, uh, if you go back to 2016, it was just classic, especially when there was all of them on stage with him and Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio and all these others.
Um, look, last night, the best part of this whole debate, there was a lot of good parts from Donald Trump's perspective, a lot of bad parts for Joe Biden's perspective.
But toward the end of the debate, um, you could tell everybody was getting tired.
They were, it was one of those Joe Biden, I think already knew he was in a bad spot.
Trump knew he was, you know, winning this thing.
And Dana Bash and Jake Tapper were just trying to end it well.
And they get into this issue of fitness and it presents one of the funniest exchanges of this entire debate.
Play cuts in.
Look, I'd be happy to have a driving contest with him.
I got my handicap, which when I was vice president, down to a six.
And by the way, I told you before, I'm happy to play golf if you carry your own bag.
Think you can do it?
That's the biggest lie, that he's a six handicap of all.
I was an eight-handed cap.
I've seen you swing.
I know you swing.
I've seen you swing, I know you swing.
Let's not act like children, Joe.
Let's not act like children.
You are a child.
You know what's specific?
I mean, folks, really?
I mean folks, really?
I mean, it's Donald Trump saying, let's not act like children.
I mean, are you kidding me?
I mean, that was the absolute best.
I mean, it reminded me of watching, you know, if you've ever played golf.
Okay, this is for our golfers.
This will be our Second Amendment Friday, but we're also going to be golfer Friday here.
Look, it's like me playing with my kids and I've got both of my boys and I'll play we'll play golf sometimes and I got one who likes to have fun golf is what he calls it.
I mean this is when my son the look that Donald Trump had when Joe Biden said that he had his handicap is the look that my son gives he puts down a face that put out a five he's lost two balls and three putted okay is no five coming up here.
And to look at Donald Trump's face there, like, no, no, I've seen this before.
No, I've seen your swing.
That, I've seen your swing, is probably the cruelest cut of the entire thing.
When he said, I've seen your swing, I mean, it was just, folks, if you want, the light moment in that debate, and then, who would have had on their bingo card, in any form or fashion, on the bingo card, Donald Trump uttering the phrase, let's not be children.
I'll have to admit, I would not have had that one on the bingo card, would not have been even remotely possible coming into this.
So there's your highlight of the night from the debate in which ended very badly for Joe Biden.
They are still in recovery mode.
Donald Trump now heading in with full sails into the Republican convention in Milwaukee as we go forward.
So, with that, we got one more hour.
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I want to hit a couple of things before we jump right back into phone calls, and there's
two parts that we really need to talk about.
Number one, there was one of our earlier callers mentioned the Chevron decision out of the
Supreme Court.
This is huge because this decision, and I know it sounds wonky, but what has happened
in years is that things, big pieces of legislation like Obamacare, clean air, clean water, all
of these are given to agencies to define and to regulate.
In the past, if states or individuals would sue about these regulations, the courts would give what is called Chevron deference, or as it was known as, to the agencies to be right.
In other words, you have to go even a step further to win the case in court because the court would view the evidence from the government as more authoritative than your evidence.
So you'd have to be even better to win.
What the Supreme Court did today in this case was basically say no, the administrative state is not going to get a deference.
Everything comes to its own merits.
The concern, and I'm still trying to read some of the legal opinion here, is that they've now moved it to a judicial deference, which is Not good either as we go forward.
This is why we've got to follow these things because it really needs to go back to a legislative deference and the Congress has to actually do its job, which is going to be difficult because it means you actually have to dig in on issues.
You have to dig in on bills.
Bills could be longer, but it's actually going to define what you actually mean.
You're not leaving it to a president or an executive branch to make the rules on a bill that you have passed.
I believe that is the best way we can get back to doing this because the more Congress deferentially gives to the executive branch strengthens the executive in this country and that's not what our founding fathers anticipated.
In fact, right now we have over the last 50 to 60 years in our federal system have had a Congress that has been deferential to its party leader which they have designated as the president.
For instance, Republicans, when controlling the House and Senate and having a Republican president, tend to give too much deference to the political president that is elected in decision making and budgeting and other things.
This is also why you have the differences of opinion when you have a president of one party in control of members of Congress in either the House or the Senate or both that are opposite the party of the president.
So, look, this is a decision many of us have fought for, and I had legislation that actually addressed this.
I'm glad to see the court has done this, but I'm also going to, you know, raise a flag and a warning here that this will be something that will be harder for Congress to wrap their head around.
And if the courts, after reading this decision more, have sort of intertwined themselves as becoming the arbiter of what is a proper regulation or what is not a proper regulation,
then this is going to be a little bit bigger as we go forward.
Another issue that I'm going to get to in a little bit that I want to, this is from
the debate last night, and this is about abortion.
And last night you had, for the first time in history, the Democratic nominee for president,
or just the head of the Democratic party, basically say, we're for abortion anytime,
anywhere, anyplace, any options.
No regulations, no extreme.
And they call Republicans extremists who want a six-week or 16-week or even a 20-week ban on abortion or no late-term abortion.
Joe Biden so messed this question up last night and so got it wrong that Donald Trump
had to correct him as to what actually Roe v. Wade did and Joe Biden tried to give this
professional law school talk about three trimesters and this is who's in charge and who's not
in charge.
The reality is, Joe, as Donald Trump told Joe Biden, you have late term abortions, although
Joe Biden said, I don't, we don't approve of late term abortions, but yet Joe Biden
would not say when he would want to see abortions stopped.
Don't let this happen folks.
You conservatives, pro-life conservatives out there, don't let Joe Biden and the Democrats get away with this.
I'm tired of Republicans running away from this fight.
Simply ask the Democrat what Point.
Are you willing to stop abortion?
Are you willing to stop it after they're born?
Will you kill them on the table?
As we heard from, and we've got a clip on this that I want you to hear.
This was from Northrum, who used to be governor of Virginia.
Listen to what Democrats really think about the life of newborns.
If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen.
The infant would be delivered.
The infant would be kept comfortable.
The infant would be resuscitated, if that's what the mother and the family desired.
And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mothers.
Did you hear what he just said?
This is Democrat thought.
And if a Democrat in your local races, your county seats, your state legislatures, your United States Congress, and others, if they won't answer this question, do you believe that abortion should be legal at any moment, any time, for any reason, then they're on the same Path here is Northrop who actually said we're going to deliver the baby Let it sit there on the table and decide if we're going to let it live or not
Folks, this is evil.
This is pure evil.
And Donald Trump called Joe Biden out on it last night because Joe Biden said, I want to keep Roe v. Wade.
Well, Roe v. Wade allows late-term abortions.
Roe v. Wade allows you to get to 35 weeks and say, you know, I really don't want another little girl.
I wanted a little boy.
And go in and take the life of that little girl in the womb.
Or better yet, 23, 26, 28 weeks.
Oh, I found out now that my child has a birth defect.
And I don't want to have a birth defect.
They have a cleft lip.
They have a spina bifida.
They have other issues that are not life-threatening.
But I don't want to have to go through the issue of that.
I'll go and have an abortion based on that child's disability.
Folks, if you think I'm lying, look it up.
Sex selection.
Ease.
Oh, the mother says, I just don't feel like having a child.
It'll be a mental strain on me to have a child.
Let's have an abortion.
39, 40 weeks.
Doesn't matter under the Democrats.
By the way, if you don't believe me and you want to read it, go to the Democratic Party platform.
It's in the Democratic Party platform.
So for all of you out there Democrats who say the Republicans are extremists on abortion, no, you're lying.
Go back.
You're not going to get away with it.
You're the extremists.
You want to kill babies at any point at any time.
And with that, we got Phil from Texas.
Hello, sir.
Thank you for your service.
We don't we prosecute people for suffocating animals.
I'm just throwing that out.
That wasn't my question, but I'll let that go.
I think Trump should have stopped Dana Bash and said, did you ask Hillary Clinton these questions after the 2016
election if you would believe it was stolen?
I just think Trump should have brought that up because he's not the first one to question an election.
Obviously we had some way in the back, but Hillary Clinton was just a few years ago
and she would say, well, you run the best campaign and you do this and then it gets stolen from you.
I've never heard anybody question her the way they do Trump, sir.
Well, Thaville, thanks for calling in.
I've also never heard anybody question Jamie Raskin from Maryland, whose first speech in the United States House was questioning the electoral votes in 2016.
One of his first votes, he actually voted against it.
These people get away with things because the mainstream media does not want to have the same narrative.
I mean, you can just name the list.
I mean, this will be too long to actually name.
I mean, from, you know, the folks in Sheila Jackson Lee back even earlier in the 2000, the George Bush election out of Ohio.
You have Stacey Abrams, who, you know, for the most part has never conceded.
She's lost two governorships in Georgia.
I think she thinks she's midway through her second term now.
This is all a part of their plan, but they never get called on it as we go forward.
Karen in Louisville, glad to have you with us.
Hi.
I'm, uh, after watching that debate, which I had to turn off because it was so painful.
I'm more worried about Iran, China.
If I were Iran, I'd lay back.
I know I'm getting my nuke.
I'd nuke the United States before Trump got in.
The Democrats would probably call a state of emergency, call the election off, and we're toast.
Yep.
Karen, thanks for bringing that up and thanks for calling in today on this Friday.
Look, I think this is a concern right now that last night, I believe, just like Donald Trump said last night, that when Putin saw the weakness in Afghanistan, led to his decision that Donald Biden would not stop him going into Ukraine.
Now what stopped him was a lot of problems with Ukrainians who said, by the way, you Back off.
We're not letting you in.
But they saw weakness in Joe Biden in Afghanistan and his lie last night about not losing any troops was a spit in the face of 13 brave Americans who lost their lives over his stupidity in Afghanistan.
So yeah, there's a lot left.
Look, we got Dave, we got Todd, we got Alicia, we got many more who want to be on this call.
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Everybody needs a little Southern rock to get you through a Friday afternoon.
I want to pick back up on something that one of our last callers were talking about, and that was the weakness that was shown last night with Joe Biden still being the president after the weakness that came across in his answers and his cognitive ability last night.
And that was the discussion of Afghanistan, and I think that Donald Trump rightly brought up that Putin was watching when he decided to go into Ukraine.
Donald Trump, you know, talked about the fact that he needed to fire people and that people should have been fired over that.
Listen to what he said during that part of the debate.
The general got fired because he was no good, and if he said that, that's why he made it up.
But we have 19 people that said I didn't say it, and they're very highly respected, much more so than him.
The other thing is He doesn't fire people.
He never fired people.
I've never seen him fire anybody.
I did fire a lot.
I fired Comey because he was no good.
I fired a lot of the top people at the FBI, drained the swamp.
They were no good.
Not easy to fire people.
You pay a price for it.
But they were no good.
I inherited these people.
I didn't put Comey there.
He was no good.
I fired him.
This guy hasn't fired anybody.
He never fires.
He should have fired every military man that was involved with that Afghan The Afghanistan horror show, the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country.
He didn't fire.
Did you fire anybody?
Did you fire anybody that's on the border that's allowed us to have the worst border in the history of the world?
Did anybody get fired for allowing 18 million people, many from prisons, many from from mental institutions?
Did you fire anybody that allowed our country to be destroyed?
Joe, our country is being destroyed as you and I sit up here and waste a lot of time on this debate.
This shouldn't be a debate.
He is the worst president.
He just said it about me because I said it.
But look, he's the worst president in the history of our country.
Again, if you saw this debate, you saw the visuals there of Joe Biden's eyes and as Donald Trump was talking there.
But I mean, again, it just goes back to a simple truth here.
He doesn't fire anybody.
He doesn't, you know, keep, you know, he lets people get away with what they want.
With that, let's go to Dave in Arizona.
Ultramag active Pete precinct committeeman did us from state 48 sir. Thank you
Thanks your service in the in the in the force and in the house as well
You were one of the people that woke me up you and Admiral Bannon back in 2019
I have to admit I was not a Trump supporter in 2016 I voted against Hillary, but I didn't really vote for
Trump But after the whole of government seemed that they were
attacking him I dug into to him and recognized him as the great disruptor
what I'm shocked about though is We in dr. Gorka, and I've talked about this for a couple
years We know the decline of Joe Biden and he's a puppet for
Obama or whomever But my concern is with the gilded old pathetic GOP.
We don't have fighters in there like you were.
We need people of action, because if we look back to the Afghanistan defeat, because they attacked us and we withdrew, it was a defeat, there's been no accountability.
And if we are not holding the whole of government accountable, are we not complicit as the GOP party?
Appreciate your thoughts, sir.
Yeah, Dave, thanks for calling, buddy.
Yeah, I mean, we've got to move forward, and you've got to move forward just like we do in everything from military to good politics.
You move through it in very strategic ways, and that's what I don't see right now among many times of my former colleagues.
Some do.
They're willing to talk about it.
They're willing to do videos about it.
They're willing to do, you know, tweets about it, but it's in getting in there and doing the hard work to hold the accountability and then do something besides that video or that tweet.
That is going to be the big case here.
Donald Trump gets re-elected here in November and they have got to kick in in January, hopefully with the new Senate, hopefully with maintaining their role in the House so that we can make some progress here because people have to be held accountable.
Congress has got to get back to relevancy at some point and it's going to only come when Congress realizes That as long as they are dysfunctional, as long as they don't get anything done, as long as they don't fight strategically, then they can really frankly only, uh, gripe about themselves because that's all that is there.
Dave, you're right on track, uh, and look forward to it.
All right.
A little bit closer to home with me down here in the, uh, Southern command, uh, on the SIP Gorka show today.
Todd out of Atlanta.
Todd, how are we doing?
Hey, hey, uh, Doug doing great.
Um, just like James Brown.
I feel good today.
There you go.
It's amazing seeing the liar-in-chief and his house of cards collapsing all around him.
President Trump was calling him Sleepy Joe four years ago, and the CNN and the rest of the media and the Democrats are only catching on now.
And you know, Jake Tapper actually admitted that the comment about, you know, good people on both sides in Charlottesville was a fraud, and he let Joe Biden get away with it last night.
You know, it's the same network that lied for four years about Russia and Biden's laptop.
So, you know, they're all being exposed.
And it was great to see Trump, after all he's been through, all these malicious prosecutions, espionage and sabotage, a sedition of the FBI against his campaign, against his presidency.
You know, it was so good to see him standing strong and getting some justice.
I think for the Democrats, I need a bumper sticker that says, vote Biden because you're as smart as he is.
Yeah, I mean, Todd, I think that's something that we got to look at.
Thanks for calling in today, because a lot of people saw it last night.
They saw the normal Joe Biden version today up in North Carolina, but today they also saw the, last night they saw the Joe Biden that everybody, including James Carville, I started the show with this today, James Carville, many of the others, old line political consultants in the Democratic Party were seeing, and that's why they were raising such a fuss here.
In fact, we got to cut eight.
I think it is folks, uh, my guys in the back.
Um, I want to, you know, look, if you really wonder about this and, and if you're not, if you watched it last night, I want you to, you know, some people said, well, if you read the transcript, Donald Trump might not have won this.
He actually lost.
Well, the truth is you don't have to use a transcript on this.
You can actually just listen and know that the transcript wouldn't have helped.
Hit cut eight.
They in fact pay 8.2% in taxes.
If they just paid 24%, 25%, either one of those numbers, they'd raise $500 million, billion dollars, I should say, in a 10-year period.
We'd be able to wipe out his debt.
We'd be able to help make sure that all those things we need to do, child care, elder care, making sure that we continue to strengthen our health care system, making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what I've been able to do with The COVID, excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with, look, if we finally beat Medicare.
Thank you, President Biden.
President Trump?
Yeah, he was right.
He did beat Medicaid, beat it to death.
Go ahead and go ahead and cut, hit cut five here too.
Move until we get the total ban on the total initiative relative to what we're going to do with more border patrol and more asylum officers.
President Trump?
I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence.
I don't think he knows what he said either.
Are y'all, you hear me?
Okay, good.
Sorry about that.
Folks, we have you live from Capitol Radio.
They don't know what he said, and he doesn't know what he said.
And I think that's the issue that we have with Joe Biden last night.
But look, you can take the transcript, you can take whatever, and it didn't make sense.
So as we look at this debate last night, it was a win for Trump with his Not only his answers, but also his willingness to let Joe Biden sort of just take the rope and walk out on his own.
But a lot left to go here.
We've got about another 30 minutes left here on the show.
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Alicia in California.
Let's talk.
Hi, Dad.
Thank you for your service.
This is Alicia.
Alicia, I am so sorry, dear.
That's okay.
I'm from the Santa Clarita Valley, California, District 27, and a big shout out to Congressman Mike Garcia.
On the topic, I watched the debate, and about 20 minutes into the debate, Jake Tapper's question was, on immigration and the border security.
The question was first directed to Biden.
And then President Trump's response was, we have the safest border in the history of our country, according to the Border Patrol, who are great.
And by the way, who endorsed me for president.
Then President Trump looked over at Biden and stated, Brandon, just speak to them.
I thought that was hilarious.
I don't know how many people caught that, but if you DVR'd it, go back and watch it.
Yeah, that was great.
Alicia, you're right.
And that was also one of the best comebacks, especially on Twitter.
Talk about getting fact-checked pretty quickly.
Biden got fact-checked pretty quickly on that one.
And it went away, and nobody even talks about it now.
Because again, when they get fact-checked, they don't like it very well.
Look, Joe Biden had a rough night last night.
I mean, when you think about this, the lies that he told, I mean, just think about this.
Lies that were told, this is, you know, as you can find, you know, he called, said that Trump says they were suckers and losers.
Lie.
Hitler did good things.
Lie.
Fine people.
Lie.
My son died in Iraq.
Lie.
I capped insulin at $15.
Lie.
I capped Medicaid drug expenses at $200.
Lie.
Retaliation.
Lie.
I mean, he just goes on and on and on about, you know, the things that he lied about last night.
And people are getting, you know, way past the point of realizing, you know, that he's not only just cognitively not as sharp as he needs to be, but he's also just wrong on the issues as well.
All right, let's move back across to Ohio, out of California, Ohio.
Tony, how are we doing today?
Doug, hi, how are you?
Hey, thanks for your service.
I'm a former Army veteran.
I happen to be running for state representative in the state of Ohio, and I'd like to give you a little bit of outlook of what's happening in Ohio.
I'm running in a district that is very, very heavy blue and was recruited.
I was not looking for this job.
I don't come from politics, but I was recruited to flip this district because I've been living here long enough, 30 years, and I am amazed as I walk And knock on doors and you know what it takes.
Yep.
I am amazed at the low level of support among the electorate here in my district that is blue.
Folks do not talk and nor do they mention President Biden.
What they do when we have a conversation Is, oh, are you voting for Trump?
Do you support Trump?
And we avoid that, but you know, they understand from my literature that I'm a Trump supporter.
Right.
This is a very, very interesting cycle in the election.
Our district is tight, probably 51-49 favoring the blue side, but people are receptive to the messages.
They're totally, totally disenchanted.
With the rise of, with the increase in prices, there's nothing, nothing in this economy that has not gone up 25%.
Nothing.
Yep.
And it hits people in the pocketbook.
Tony, you're in the districts that we need for people to be in.
And people, sometimes they don't get this.
They say, well, it's a blue district.
Let's just white it off.
No, they're open right now to alternatives that they've always been told.
You in that district and folks out there who are running in these conditions have got to keep that up.
Because look, Democrats understand this.
They go into red districts all the time and try to get just a number of voters to vote because they understand in the plurality, in the bigger scheme of things, that if they can get one or two percent better in these districts, then they can do better statewide.
So, Tony, keep that fight up.
Get out there.
Talk to the voters.
They're willing to listen right now because they're not happy with what they're seeing out of the Democratic Party, and you can provide an alternative for that.
All right, we're coming back in.
We'll be back in a minute.
We're going to have Steve and Brad and rolling up on the end of here of my time with you today.
So look forward to it.
We'll be back here in just a minute.
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New Year's Day.
Come New Year's Day this year, hopefully we will be getting ready for the inauguration of Donald Trump as the 47th President of the United States.
And that will be a good day.
A couple more calls as we're rolling it into the final part of the segment.
Glad to be with you today.
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Steve, in Ohio, you're with me now.
Well, thank you.
The assessment of the moderators is pretty much that they did a good job and were fair and all like that.
There was one question, however, for which we need to call foul, and that was when Dana Bash asked the question of Trump.
What are you going to do about the climate crisis?
And Trump was criticized for ducking the question, but actually it's the question itself that
deserves the criticism because it assumes that there is a climate crisis and that the
federal government could and should do something about it.
If it had been properly asked, it would have been, do you believe that there's a climate
crisis and is it something about which the federal government could and should do something?
That was one, at least one, where, once again, we have to cry foul.
Yeah, look, it was going to come.
We knew it.
I think you made a great point there that you need to phrase the question, not as a material fact that has to be solved by Congress.
Again, odds against us and the rest of the world, it's an idea of, okay, what is going on?
How can we make it, if there is something going on, how do we make it better?
But this has always been the Democratic talking point that Republicans want dirty water and dirty air and everything else.
Steve, you're exactly right in that question, but we knew it was coming.
And look, that was CNN.
Biden got what he wanted and he still fumbled the whole thing.
So thanks for calling.
We appreciate it.
All right.
We're going to end up with a call today with Brad from LA.
Brad, let's talk.
Hey, Doug.
Doug, thank you.
Seems to me the most important thing that happened last night was the way all the Democrats and pundits have been outed.
Uh, it's like the Emperor's New Clothes allegory come to life.
Yesterday they were all about how sharp Biden is.
Today they want somebody new.
And it really just shines a light on how these are just sycophants and toadies who don't really care about anything.
And they're just willing to flip in a heartbeat.
Yep.
Brad, thank you for teeing up my final point of the day, and I appreciate you calling, and thanks for keeping the fight up out there.
Look, the worst time in this debate was last night.
It was not really completely 930 to 945, which was the debate in whole, and it was over after that because Biden was doing so bad.
The really the worst time for Democrats is now come from between 10 30 and 11 15 last night when they got on CNN MSNBC and all the others it started exactly what you just talked about Brad and that was saying that you know Joe Biden has to go Joe Chicago this morning others we got one more clip I want you to hear and this is Jen circle back Saki on the cut for Well, I've been listening to what y'all have been saying and I don't think we should sugarcoat this.
This was not the debate performance that the Biden campaign team wanted or needed from this debate.
In part because they wanted to do this debate as early as they did to change this up, right?
To bring the Joe Biden who is at the State of the Union to the debate stage.
That's not the Joe Biden who showed up at the debate stage.
I mean, folks, I got to tell you, if you lose Jen Psaki, you lose Circleback.
I mean, she couldn't even Circleback on this one.
It was, uh, you know, it was just bad and she knew it.
And, and, and this was somebody who's made, you know, look, a career out of being very loyal to Joe Biden.
I'm not going to fault that.
I mean, loyalty is loyalty, but, but she understood that this was bad.
And the reason I say that last night, because I think it sums up the whole issue we've talked about today on the show, and that is, you know, is the Democrats going to get rid of Joe Biden?
My opinion?
No.
Joe Biden is on the ticket.
Joe Biden will be there barring a health catastrophe.
He will be on the ticket on November.
All this other stuff is just, you know, the same kind of Uh, discussion that we've heard now from a while.
Remember, most of the Democrats were saying, Oh, Donald Trump will never show up for this debate.
He'll find some reason.
He's already talking about how bad the moderators are.
You know, look, the debate was going to happen.
It happened.
Uh, Joe Biden is going to be on the ticket.
Now they may not like it.
They may grind and moan and complain about it, but he's going to be on the ticket.
But here's what will also be on the ticket in the fall.
And I talked to some folks who do political consulting, who do ad work today, and here it is.
That's why I said 10.30 to 11.15 last night was the absolute worst for the Democrats.
Why?
Because now, how do you walk that back, Jen Psaki?
How do you walk back?
Her's was not as bad as Joe Scarborough, who said, we need to look for a possibility of a new candidate.
Van Jones, who said, I love Joe Biden, but we need to look at it for a new candidate.
And all these others down the line who kept saying, We've got to look for new candidates, but all over Twitter, it's all over everything.
You can't walk that back.
You can try to erase the Twitter feed.
You can try and erase everything else, but it's going to be there.
And if the Trump team and the Republican National Committee are smart, they are now making ads that are going to start running in September and October that remind people of how bad Joe Biden was and how bad he is and how the Democrats abandoned him at the first sign of trouble that they were actually trying to get him off the ticket and you can see the tagline coming if you think you know look you we're telling you Joe Biden's policies are bad we're telling you Joe Biden is not up to the job but let don't worry what we say listen to what his supporters are saying
And you will see that on ad after ad after ad.
And I think that's going to be the key coming up here is do the Republicans keep the pressure up?
Let me send out a warning.
The warning is this race is not over.
It's nowhere close to over.
It's nowhere.
Look, you may see a bump in the polls for Donald Trump in the next few days.
He's already leading.
I think you may see a few more points, but we're over 130 days.
That's four months.
that we're out here.
If you don't think this can change, then you've not been around politics.
You've not ever run for office.
You don't know how to take a poll in June that actually means nothing in November.
Issues that you think are going to be prevalent in June are not going to be prevalent in November.
So when you look at this, folks, all I got to tell you is, is if you think it's gotten
easier, if you think Joe Biden is going to just lay down and die, and the Democrats are
going to quit spending money, and they're going to give up, although they've all called
for him to be replaced, this will drag on a week.
It'll drag on another week.
It'll drag on a couple more weeks.
And the next thing you know, August 7th is going to show up, and they're going to nominate
Joe Biden to be president of the United States of the Democratic Party again.
So it's time for us to buckle up.
Get ready, take our message to the places that people need to hear it, who are longing to hear it, and when we do that, then we can win this election, and Donald Trump becomes the 47th President of the United States, and we reverse all of this stuff that we've talked about.
Until then, you can't quit.
Take a minute, have a victory lap, but then get right back on the track.
It's time to keep running.
We'll be back to close it out here on the Seb Gorka America First Show.
Doug Collins filling in for Seb.
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For the final segment here, before we go, we're getting ready for a weekend.
It's going to turn into a long week for many of you.
Uh, not on the weekend.
You'll come in maybe Monday, Tuesday, and then we probably will see most of you until the 8th of July.
So again, doing a lot of things, but again, thanks to Seb for allowing me to fill in today.
Had a great time.
Also the best crew in the back as well.
We appreciate them.
Uh, going forward, but we can't let it go.
A sweet emotion.
The sweet emotion flowed last night.
It amazed me as much as both of them guys, both the guys last night called each other the worst president ever.
They called him everything.
But the only time is I heard somebody play on social media this morning.
The only time either one of them got really just ticked off was when they talked about their golf game.
It was classic.
This is classic Trump.
This is classic, uh, in this, uh, going forward.
And it just showed, you know, really the sums up this base.
So look, before we get gone here in a minute, I got to play this, uh, clip again, clip 10.
Look, I'd be happy to have a driving contest with him.
I got my handicap, which when I was vice president down to a six.
And by the way, I told you before, I'm happy to play golf if you carry your own bag.
Think you can do it?
That's the biggest lie there is.
He's a six-handicap of all.
I was an eight-handicap.
Yeah.
Eight?
I've seen you swing.
I know you swing.
Let's not act like children, Jim.
Let's not act like children.
You are a child.
I mean, what kills me about this is the way that they actually turned the mics on for both of them.
Instead of killing the mics, they actually turned Trump's mic back on for this.
And it was just hilarious he didn't have to sing your swing.
And the facial expressions.
It was just classic.
I mean, it's like everybody who plays golf at any point, when you have somebody say, Oh, that's a, I partied that on.
No, no, you didn't.
You know, you moved it five feet and you just took a gimme from 20 feet.
I mean, no, you didn't do that.
And, and what got me was is, is I, if you may admit the, the, the fun quote from Trump was no, I've seen your swing, but the better quote for me on that whole thing was, is, is when he looked at it.
And, uh, and Trump said that, uh, you know, that's the biggest lie you've told all night.
Now think about this.
Joe Biden has called him everything, but really a child of God in that debate.
He got mad.
He was cussing.
He was doing a lot of different things in there, but he called Trump a liar, actually called him, you know, aligned him with Hitler.
I mean, everything else.
And off of all of that, Joe Biden told Joe, told Donald Trump, Donald Trump said the biggest lie of the whole night.
Was his golf handicap.
I can't think of a better way to get into the weekend.
I can't think of a better way to end what has been an amazing 24 hours of politics here in the United States.
If it wasn't so sad to have our president act and respond like he did last night, showing the world the weakness of a president who seems to be cognitively in decline, it would be worth laughing about.
This ain't worth laughing about.
It's worth getting out there and voting for Donald Trump.
Do whatever you can, go to Donald Trump, give money, give volunteer time, do whatever you need to do.
Cause last night we need to make sure we never have to see Joe Biden in that position again.
This is Doug Collins signing off today on America First with Seb Gorka.
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