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June 27, 2024 - Sebastian Gorka

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	Bye.
	Now I want to give you a sense of what it will look like for viewers at home if a candidate whose microphone is off interrupts a candidate whose microphone is on.
	So I'm standing at one podium and I'll ask Phil to come in and take the other podium.
	And so let's say I'm answering a question.
	My light is green and I'm speaking.
	Phil's microphone is off and his green lights are not illuminated.
	He's going to interrupt me as I'm speaking and this is what it will sound like.
	My volume remains constant while Phil's interruption can be difficult to understand.
	Let's try the opposite.
	My microphone is now off.
	Victor's microphone is off.
	And he's going to interrupt me.
	My volume remains constant, while Victor's interruption can be difficult to understand.
	Jeff, welcome back.
	Did you have a pleasant vacation?
	A pleasant trip I did.
	A return, not so great.
	How many airline cancellations?
	Um, I don't even know.
	It's one, two, then there's a standby, then I was offered a great way to come home, which I didn't want to do.
	I don't know why that was.
	Then another one, then I got back to Miami, it was delayed by two hours, and when I got there, then my one to DC was cancelled, then I cancelled on them, and had to book a new one.
	Did you at any time resort to violence with the airline?
	Nobody became very close.
	Well, we are very glad to have you back.
	I need to know, that clip we just played, Mr. G, did you make that with AI whilst you were on vacation?
	No, I honestly, the same thing is I thought it was a Senate Live clip at first too.
	Especially because CNN has replaced all their anchors so you don't know who they are.
	So it looks like when CNN would be spoofed on CNN Live.
	Right, because I don't recognize... I mean, I don't watch CNN, but, you know, we've played the clips that you find for me.
	I don't recognize either of those people.
	They look like AI-generated, you know, people from central casting.
	But that's actually real.
	They played that on CNN, that this is a microphone, and this is how you switch off a microphone.
	Yeah, nobody knows what a mute button is.
	That's why they had to explain it so everybody understands what's happening.
	Hang on, hang on.
	I think I've got one here.
	I'm going to keep talking.
	What?
	I'm going to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
	Did that work?
	Did the off button work?
	Did that work?
	Nope, you cut out a little bit there.
	Okay, so...
	This is too good because CNN is garbage now and that was actually a really funny CNN skit so will you indulge me Mr. Eric and will you just play again CNN demonstrating how tonight President Trump, because you know it's only going to be President Trump, is going to be muted by something called a mute button that mutes something called a microphone.
	Now I want to give you a sense of what it will look like for viewers at home if a candidate whose microphone is off interrupts a candidate whose microphone is on.
	So I'm standing at one podium and I'll ask Phil to come in and take the other podium.
	And so let's say I'm answering a question.
	My light is green and I'm speaking.
	Phil's microphone is off and his green lights are not illuminated.
	He's going to interrupt me as I'm speaking and this is what it will sound like.
	My volume remains constant while Phil's interruption can be difficult to understand.
	Let's try the opposite.
	My microphone is now off.
	Victor's microphone is off.
	And he's going to interrupt me.
	My volume remains constant, while Victor's interruption can be difficult to understand.
	I'm sorry, I can't move on.
	I can't move on.
	Eric...
	So there's about three people who watch CNN.
	Do they really think that all three of them are like chronic cretins in an asylum?
	Because not only do they demonstrate how this microphone is muted, they'll say, and now let me demonstrate how his microphone is muted.
	Because, I mean, these are really The idea that you press a button and electricity ceases to flow to the microphone, these are really, I mean, that's up there with E equals MC squared, correct, Eric?
	It serves two different effects in that sense.
	In the one, yeah, it's clarifying for a very dumb audience, because people who unironically watch CNN are definitely IQ challenged, but also it's giving this fake air of like, this is how we're going to be fair, because see, we muted both microphones.
	We promise we'll be fair tonight, guys.
	Yeah.
	All right, let's do a round, Robin.
	I want all the team to chime in.
	Even, I want John.
	I don't know if John's hiding out in his bat cave, but tonight I'm kind of...
	I'm a little torn.
	I'm a little torn, because you know me, if this were Seb Gawker running for president, although I wasn't born here, we can't change the constitution, although that's an interesting idea, it would be like, you know, me with Jake Tapper on CNN, or talking about CNN's ratings being beaten by Nick at Night with Anderson Cooper, and I'd be full throttle, because I just love it.
	However, Who was it?
	I think it was Bongino or Chris Platt.
	Maybe Bongino said, we don't want to win this debate tonight because we don't want Biden to be replaced.
	We want to run against him.
	Interesting logic.
	And then I've come up with another one.
	President Trump, he will be, you know, attacked.
	Jake Tapper is a prostitute for the left.
	Dana Bash, his husband, worked for Obama at the CIA.
	So we know who these people are.
	President Trump should play it cool, calm, collected.
	Why?
	Because he's got the base.
	He's got MAGA.
	What he needs to appeal to is the middle, the independents, the soft Republicans, the questioning Democrats.
	So don't come out of the gate like a berserker and super tough and super maggot, but just play it cool.
	I'm kind of leaning towards that, but I'm curious.
	Let's do a little poll here.
	Let's start with the man at the controls of the Starship America First.
	Alex, what do you think is the right play for the president?
	I can get behind that.
	Calm and collected.
	Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
	Like Muhammad Ali.
	Ooh, a bit of Muhammad Ali.
	Alright, so play down for the middle vote, the undecided, the independents.
	What do you think, Mr. Gee?
	Oh, sorry, sir.
	I totally agree with Alex.
	One point I would like to make is tonight's debate is more like a kill box, you know, being set up against Mr. Trump, President Trump.
	That's correct.
	That's a very well, yes, indeed, it's a rhetorical political kill box.
	Nice phraseology there.
	Let's go to, I think I can guess his answer.
	Mr. Eric!
	I agree with your take because he has the base.
	He has the base more than ever before.
	He's won the primary.
	He crushed all of his opponents.
	The witch hunts against him, the threatens of throwing him in jail has gotten people more riled up and more enthusiastic about him than ever before.
	If he just plays it cool and presidential as it were, you know, presidential in the traditional sense, and just lays out the facts of Biden's disastrous open border, all the foreign wars, that this man is a horrible record and you cannot give him another four years.
	I think that is a smarter play at this time.
	Even when they're gonna be muting his microphone, he plays it cool.
	If they go so far as muting his microphone, then he can, I think, if anything, direct the Berserker energy at the moderators and call out the fake news media.
	That works, I think.
	But to go against Biden in that way?
	I don't think so.
	I think that energy was better used in, say, primary debates, which obviously he didn't need to do this year.
	But, like, when he was calling out Little Marco and stuff like that, that worked wonders.
	I see, I see Mr. John.
	Does he have a headset on?
	He's grabbing a headset.
	Let's go to John quickly.
	We've only got a minute left.
	John, play it cool tonight or go Berserker?
	No, go Berserker.
	Roast him.
	Roast him.
	At least one.
	Go for it.
	Go big or go home.
	Go big or go home.
	Alright, let's go to our frequent flyer champion, Mr. G. What is the play for tonight?
	Uh, first of all, I think the muting of the buttons helps Trump way more than Biden.
	Why, why, why, why, why?
	Because that's all Biden does is interrupt.
	Look, but before he was senile, the Paul Ryan debate, which he won.
	The rambling, the rambling stuff.
	No, he interrupted Paul Ryan all the time.
	But are they going to mute him?
	Because he's that guy.
	No, no, but I'm saying having Trump not do it, that's what he wants to do.
	He always just interrupts back and forth, back and forth.
	He's the one that did it before.
	I'd rather want to see Joe have to talk two minutes.
	That, I think, actually helps him.
	Trump much more than Biden.
	So how does Trump play it?
	Uh, you gotta let Trump be Trump.
	This is the same thing.
	Remember the town hall?
	He tried to play it cool for about five or ten minutes.
	She kept asking ridiculous questions.
	He just went off and then it worked.
	Oh dear, oh dear.
	Okay, it's three to two.
	I am the deciding vote.
	And I'm going to keep you in suspenders for the next couple of hours.
	I'm going to decide on the hoof.
	All right, guys.
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	You were surprised with my answer?
	I know, I thought you'd go and let Trump be Trump.
	Look at Biden.
	He already looks 10 years younger than last week.
	Who does?
	Biden at the airport.
	Oh.
	They've got to.
	Whatever they have, the cocktail is in the special one.
	What is he doing right now?
	What is he doing at this moment?
	He's talking to people he wants to campaign for him in Georgia.
	But it looks like he's shaking his hand constantly.
	Yeah, he is.
	Let's post that.
	Watch what President Trump do tonight.
	Yeah.
	But the whole thing is, uh, that's if you want him to win.
	If you want Biden to still be the nominee.
	Do you want him to win?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, Trump tonight.
	Do you want him to crush Biden or no?
	Well, that's the whole thing about the Bongino thing.
	I know, that is true.
	Isn't it good?
	We want to run against Biden.
	It also doesn't take much to beat Biden at this state.
	Again, with his horrible record and everything.
	So, I mean, you don't need... Going berserk would be wasting too much energy that you could use elsewhere, I think.
	Because it's...
	Trump, it's impossible for him to sit there for 90 minutes.
	No.
	And because you're the two moderators, too.
	You're right.
	Yeah, again, he can go after the moderators.
	I think that'll win.
	Come in with six, I'll do PhD, then I'll go to Matt.
	And you just want me to keep the phones off?
	Off.
	Phones blocked.
	Alrighty.
	Alright, I'm gonna go try to get that clip.
	When did you see it, Brown, when you texted me from the funeral?
	Huh?
	The clip from the funeral.
	Yeah, exactly when I texted you, folks.
	Yo!
	What's going on?
	How's it going?
	Living the dream.
	Very good. All right.
	We're gonna talk debate, my friend.
	Two minutes.
	Very good.
	Very good.
	It's gonna be fun tonight.
	Maybe also ask Matt about Veep Steaks.
	Oh, totally.
	Veep Steaks.
	Yeah, we're talking about the debate, we're talking about Veep Steaks.
	What are you working on?
	What's your latest big project?
	So I just got back from Montana.
	I was out there with Senator Daines for a couple days and we did a big film thing with him, laying out the path back to the Senate majority.
	Uh, for the Republicans.
	And so we put out the first clip of that, which was just him talking about the debate last night.
	And we'll have more in the coming weeks.
	And then in the second segment with Matt, I'm going to use the, uh, Jamal Bowman cut.
	All righty.
	Let me get it again.
	Hang on.
	Does, does Ryany Gaines work for Outkick now?
	I think that's in her Chiron on Fox now these days.
	Yeah, she does.
	What, did Fox buy Outkick?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, they did.
	Oh.
	And so she's not allowed to promote her book?
	That's a bummer.
	Loud static noise Loud static noise
	Loud static noise What's that noise?
	Something on your end, Matt?
	Background noise.
	Background noise.
	Music playing.
	Background noise.
	Hostile, uh, interviewers.
	I don't think that, um, I don't think that Jake Tapper and Dena Bash are planning to be hostile.
	I think they want a fair debate.
	Well, they'll be tough to both sides.
	I think they will be tough to both sides, and I think the hostility, from what we're seeing already from the Trump campaign, is coming from Trump towards them.
	Oh yeah, they'll be fair!
	They'll be fair to both sides!
	Because, you know, Dana Bash's husband was, you know, Chief of Staff for Obama's CIA.
	And, you know, Jake Tapper called President Trump Hitler.
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	Really?
	Let's ask the Washington Bureau Chief for the conservative powerhouse that is BrightBar.com.
	Matt Boyle, what are you expecting from those lovely, lovely moderators this evening?
	They're going to be extremely biased.
	They're going to try to frame the conversation in terms that help Democrat Joe Biden get out of the funk that he's in, even though they got their headline Donald Trump convicted felon for the last month or so.
	Donald Trump is now taking a clear and convincing lead in all of the polls that have just come out.
	Quinnipiac, New York Times both have Donald Trump up four points.
	Nate Silver released an analysis That shows that Donald Trump has a 66% chance of winning the election.
	Nate was very, very sad when he posted that, wasn't he?
	Yeah, he was extremely sad.
	And by the way, he didn't even expect his own model to show that, right?
	And he lays it out in this big, long, well thought out piece.
	It's worth reading just to see how they underestimate Trump.
	But the fact is, is that, and for what it's worth here, Nate Silver gave Obama less of a chance of winning his elections in 2008 and 2012 than he gives of Trump winning this upcoming election.
	So, the fact is that Donald Trump is the dominant candidate going into this debate.
	CNN is the only thing that might be able to if they try to turn things around for Biden.
	That's why Biden, the sitting president of the United States, would even agree to this, right?
	Biden knows he's losing.
	He sees the same numbers that we do, right?
	The Democrats know that Donald Trump is the odds-on favorite candidate to win the White House in November.
	So why would Biden agree to a debate so early?
	Why would he agree to do this?
	It's because he's desperate to try to change the trajectory of this race.
	I don't think there's Anything that can do that.
	The only thing that I... The big thing to watch for tonight, there's a couple of big things.
	First off, does Biden have any senior moments like we've seen recently?
	Well, we were just commenting in the break that he just got off Air Force One in Atlanta and he looks very, very different.
	Very rested after his seven days in Camp David.
	So, either they pumped him up or something or those seven days off have prepped him rather well for tonight.
	Right.
	And then secondly, also, does Biden have a command of the issues or not, right?
	Like, I think all the pressure's on Joe Biden tonight.
	As long as Donald Trump just goes in there and kind of does the fundamentals, talks about the issues, etc., Donald Trump's going to emerge from this debate the winner.
	So, you know, does Trump get in some good digs on Biden on things like immigration, particularly the Angel families, who I think President Trump's bringing with him to the debate?
	And then in addition to that, also Trump's sense of humor, right?
	Like, how does that come through?
	It's one of Trump's most underrated qualities, I think, from people who know him.
	And you see it a little bit in the rally stages and whatnot.
	But I really think Trump's going to be himself.
	Right?
	Like, so, you know, yeah, the rules are stacked against him.
	Yeah, he's three-on-one on that stage.
	Yes, they're going to do everything they can to try to rig this thing.
	But Trump's just going to go up there and have a ball, right?
	Like, and at the same time also convey the seriousness of this election.
	But if, you know, he's got a massive audience here tonight.
	So if Trump does that, I think he'll do just fine.
	Let's go back to the question of the current polling and how the presidents are doing.
	We were discussing this in the pre-production meeting here in the studio, that if you look at the last couple of elections, the polls have undercounted President Trump's performance significantly.
	And I think, you know, that's an obvious factor of people who won't admit to a stranger, a pollster, that they're voting Trump.
	So if he's, you know, slightly ahead in battleground states, We don't take anything for granted, but could that mean that he's like double digits ahead in some places?
	Yes, I think there's still a hidden Trump vote.
	That's still a major thing.
	The idea that that's gone away in this rematch between Trump and Biden is just not true.
	And both of the last two elections, we saw tons and tons of Trump supporters light up holsters.
	They either wouldn't talk to them, or they would tell them they're undecided, or they'd tell them You know, they're not voting for Trump and then they voted for Trump, right?
	And so the more important question that you see pollsters ask oftentimes is not, who are you voting for?
	But who do you think is going to win?
	And the New York Times poll, I believe, asked that question this week.
	They just published it.
	That was one of the two polls that came out yesterday that showed Trump up four nationally.
	When you ask them, who do you think is going to win?
	He's up seven, right?
	Like, so I think there's a, a definite hidden Trump vote out there
	across the battleground states and nationally.
	And again, Biden enters this debate as the loser, right?
	Like he is the losing candidate right now.
	Everybody knows it.
	All the pressures on Joe to deliver tonight.
	Now, if Joe doesn't fall down off the stage, the entire media is going to claim that it was a win for Joe Biden.
	You know, he sounded coherent for once, right?
	Like, so look for that.
	And I wouldn't count on there being a a major senior moment from him. But at the same time, the
	expectations are so low for Joe Biden, but he is also losing. So he is the one that has all the
	pressure on him. As long as Trump just goes in and does his thing, I think Trump's going to come
	out of this thing a winner, no doubt.
	Well, I think the big, big strategic goal is to make sure that Biden stays the candidate,
	because we want that binary choice.
	We want the Biden versus Trump choice because that indisputably plays to our strengths.
	As Reagan said, Are you better off than you were four years previously?
	We'll continue with Matt.
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	All right.
	For what it's worth, I decided to ask the Rumble Chat for their take on the discussion we had the first segment of Common Collected versus Berserker.
	10 to 0 landslide in favor of Common Collected.
	Wow!
	Wow!
	What would you like to see, Matt?
	A very cool President Trump tonight?
	Yeah, I think so.
	I think this is the moment.
	I think Senator Daines in our interview, the clip we published last night, put it best.
	It's like you're the leader up a few strokes on the 18th hole coming down.
	Augusta, you don't need to smash the ball, right?
	Just hit it out in the fairway, put it on the green, sink the putt, and walk away a winner, right?
	Donald Trump's the leader here.
	He doesn't need to do anything fancy.
	Joe Biden's coming from behind.
	He's going to pull the driver out of the bag and risk hitting the ball 40 yards out of bounds, right?
	And so Trump's going to act like the leader in the clubhouse here.
	You think he's going to lose his cool?
	You think Biden's going to lose his cool?
	I think Biden could lose his cool.
	I don't think Trump will.
	No, no, no.
	I think Trump knows what he's walking into.
	He understands the enemy.
	He understands that it's three on one.
	He knows what they're trying to do to gang up on him.
	And as long as he sticks to the Trump we all know and love, he'll be fine.
	Go ahead.
	He has to come out.
	Say that again?
	Trump needs to be funny.
	The sense of humor, that comes out, he wins.
	Self-deprecating, that type of thing.
	Does he drop the Veep pick tonight?
	I don't think so.
	No.
	I think that's all hype.
	I do think he's enjoying the game.
	Yes!
	Oh my gosh, he's playing them, like, perfectly.
	Yeah.
	It's like he's playing this all over again.
	Everybody is just hanging on every little bit of information, and so we'll see what happens on that front.
	I don't know who it'll be.
	I think that all the finalists are all fine and well, and I have no issue with any of them.
	My gut tells me it's probably gonna be JD Vance, but we'll see.
	Or Vivek?
	I don't know if Vivek is in that finalist list, so... Why?
	What's your gut?
	What do you think?
	I think that the reporting that shows that it's down to Vance, Rubio, Burgum, and Tim Scott.
	Why Burgum?
	Apart from his money, I do not understand that man.
	They're both business guys.
	They hit it off really well on energy policy, right?
	That's kind of one of Burgum's big things.
	Yeah, but he's got zero charisma.
	He's like a black frickin' hole.
	Yeah, but I mean, I know that they hit it off well personally together, so, you know.
	Personally, my pick would be Vance, but like, you know, I mean, I don't have a personal issue with the other ones, so, you know.
	It can't be Burgum, please, because Burgum can't be the new MAGA guy in four years' time.
	Yeah, look, it's particularly telling, isn't it, that Rupert Murdoch's properties are all pushing Burgum?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	30 seconds.
	Totally.
	Alright, my pillow and then I'll tee it up.
	Pillow and then, sorry, which cup will you tee up?
	The Bowman.
	Oh yeah.
	Bye-bye.
	Bye-bye.
	You You
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	Alright, we can continue the discussion of the debate, but we've got to put it into a broader context.
	This is meant to be a concession speech.
	Not much of a concession speech.
	It's like a Blue Anon conspiracy theory.
	Here is Mr. Fire Alarm, Jamal Bowman, on why he lost.
	Cut 11.
	We should not be well adjusted to a sick society.
	We should be outraged.
	We should be outraged when a super PAC of dark money can spend $20 million to brainwash people into believing something that isn't true.
	Unfortunately, some so-called Democrats are aligning themselves with radical, racist, right-wing Republicans.
	That's Matt Boyle.
	Please, could you comment on this dangerous new phenomena of Democrats aligning themselves with extreme Republicans?
	What's happening in politics in America?
	Is AOC getting in bed with Matt Gaetz?
	What's going on?
	Oh my gosh, it's so great to watch them fighting each other, isn't it?
	So the fact is that, by the way, Jamaal Bowman's just the first one, right?
	So the establishment Democrats are coming for the rest of the squad, right?
	I mean, it's pretty obvious, isn't it?
	Their next sights are set on Cori Bush in Missouri.
	So Congresswoman Cori Bush is in very big trouble.
	The polls show it's tied there and wouldn't be surprised to see a massive rush of money pour into that district from the establishment side of the Democrat Party to try to wipe her out.
	And then they're going for Ilhan Omar, right?
	Like in Minnesota.
	I don't think they get Tlaib or Presley or AOC this cycle, but their sights are set on them in the future, no doubt.
	These people are crazy, and the fact is that I think the reason why the establishment Democrats are even going after people like Bowman and Cori Bush and Ilhan Omar, etc.
	It's because they know that these crazy people are crazy and they hurt Democrats, right?
	Like, what they're doing is they're pushing people, middle-of-the-road voters, and maybe even some long-time, more establishment-type Democrats towards Trump, right?
	Like, you know, watch Jamal Bowman.
	He's a psycho.
	Like, he's an absolute crazy person.
	I don't know if you saw the rally with him and AOC right before the election.
	No, we played it multiple times.
	psychopathic right like and so it is the only way to describe it and so
	uh... i think that they're feeling the heat and it's great to see the civil war
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	right to see an animal but the traveling press pool with the with the white house press pool
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	just issues statement blistering cnn it's so glorious to see them all
	fighting with each other uh... this is what happens when
	you know how you put you have deceptive uh... psychopathic people
	running their movements in their institutions and uh... you know i i
	think it could be anything better I love seeing them all destroy each other.
	It's great.
	Break each other apart, by all means.
	The revolution sooner or later eats itself.
	We've got 40 seconds left.
	He's been playing with the media like a cat with a crippled mouse.
	President Trump, is he going to announce the VPIC tonight, or is he going to keep trolling the MSM?
	We'll see what happens.
	I don't think it comes tonight.
	I think it'll be sometime between tonight and the convention.
	But, you know, I think he is enjoying the game, playing itself out here, right?
	Like, and he's watching the process play itself out, and he's kind of like doing almost his own real-life version of the Apprentice audition, if you will, right?
	Like, for the position.
	So we'll see how it goes, but I don't think you get a decision tonight, but I think it's coming soon.
	Just fun to watch.
	Far too much fun.
	We've been talking to Matt Boyle.
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	There's that short little poem from Tate Roosevelt about don't judge the man who steps into the arena if you haven't.
	You don't get to.
	If you haven't dared to take a public stance, challenge authority, run for something, make enemies because you stood for something, then keep your mouth shut.
	That's why it's all the more impressive when people who could have just stayed in the shadows And who have an important story to tell, decide, no, I am going to step into the arena.
	And our next guest is exactly one of those people.
	You may not be familiar with her name, but I think you know the story and it is an important story.
	Her name is London Roberts.
	Her daughter is called Navy and she is the author of an upcoming book.
	It's called Out of the Shadows, my life inside the wild world of Hunter Biden.
	And she's our guest in studio.
	London, welcome to America First.
	Hi, thank you for having me.
	So who are you?
	Who's your daughter?
	And what's this book about?
	My name is London.
	So I'm from Arkansas, born and raised.
	I came to D.C.
	for a grad school, and I lived here for a few years.
	And I'm at Hunter, and our daughter is our daughter, Navy Jo.
	So you met Hunter Biden.
	You called the subtitle of the book his wild world.
	My life inside the wild world.
	We'll talk about just how wild that was.
	We know some things about you.
	We know about the paternity case and everything else and then the Biden family not recognizing who your daughter is.
	You could have just disappeared, gone back to Arkansas, Why have you written this book?
	What is the importance of coming out of the shadows for you?
	Because this has got to be tough.
	It is.
	It's very tough.
	And it gives me lots of anxiety.
	But it's something I'm dealing with.
	It's because, you know, I have a daughter that I have to be her voice.
	I have to stand up for her.
	And when you have a child, you realize all the things that you want to teach them and
	instill in them, like resilience and strength and open-mindedness and forgiveness and all
	these traits that you want to.
	But this is unique because this is also, you know, I want my daughter to know that I fought
	for her and I want her to know my story.
	And I want her to know that I stood 10 toes down and I dedicated my story to her.
	So someday she can look back on this and, you know, maybe admire her mother for standing 10 toes down and giving her story, telling her story, and for her sake.
	Solely for her.
	So tell us your story.
	Tell us about what happened after you met Hunter Biden, what that wild world of his was like.
	Because in a previous interview with a friend of mine earlier this week, I heard one story where you might have saved his life from an overdose.
	I mean, how wild was this world?
	It gets wild.
	It's wild, wild.
	You know, Hunter was was deep in his addiction during that time before I got pregnant and there was some fun times.
	You know, there's some funny stories and there's some darker stories like that night and there is a chapter about a night that I'll never forget and I wonder if Hunter even remembers because He was so deep in his addiction that he was not himself.
	He stumbled in, he falls on the floor, and you know, I run to him, I lift his head up, and I get him some water.
	I've got, you know, I've got some friends there, and they're witnessing this, and they know that, you know, I only have certain friends around him that protect him and don't go out, you know, saying everything that they've seen him do or anything.
	So, they see this, and they're like, is this normal?
	You know, does this happen a lot?
	And I'm like, It's fine.
	It's fine.
	Like he just needs some water and I'm terrified on the inside, but they're like, should we call the ambulance?
	Is it normal?
	Is it?
	No, no, that was, that was not normal that night.
	I knew something was different.
	Um, I lift his head up and when I say getting water, he raises his head and he hits it on the, there was a marble coffee table, um, in between the two couches and he hits his head on it.
	But right before that, he yells waters of world war two.
	And we were like, And then he falls back down.
	I was like, oh my goodness.
	I could see his heartbeat through his neck.
	It was so bad.
	And I'm sitting there and I'm holding him as his head's like hanging over my knee and I'm on the ground with him.
	And I'm watching his heartbeat and I'm thinking, this is not normal.
	Like, this is not good.
	I don't know what to do.
	But his breathing was really shallow.
	And at that time, you know, he'd come to hit his head, now he's back out.
	And so I asked them for help, like, help me get him to the bed, and they helped me.
	And, you know, one of them, it freaked her out, she left.
	She's like, I don't want to be here.
	And the other one stayed with me because she was worried about me.
	And, well, she was worried about him, but she was also worried about me because she could tell I was kind of, I'm normally one to keep my composure, but I was not doing that very well.
	And I get him in bed, and his breathing's really shallow.
	I'm watching his heart.
	And then I have the phone in my hands the entire night, wondering, am I going to call the ambulance?
	Because I know if it gets to that, to save his life, I will.
	And he'll hate me forever.
	It'll be another Hunter Biden scandal.
	Another story.
	Exactly.
	And this scandal-plagued son, another story.
	And I didn't want to do that to him.
	And so I sit there, and I watched him.
	And put water by the bed.
	I laid with him.
	You know, even I talk about in the book, in my champagne buzzed mind, I prayed.
	I, you know, prayed that he would be okay.
	Like, please God, you know, I don't.
	And I think about, you know, that night he could have found his way to anyone.
	He could have went to Annapolis.
	He could have went to Hallie.
	He could have went to his parents.
	But he came to you.
	But he came to me.
	And you might have saved his life.
	And I was with him that night.
	I watched him the entire night.
	So you did that for him.
	You bore his child, Navy.
	Then you had to take him to court because he denied paternity.
	Will you talk to us about how you've been treated by him and by his father, the Bidens, in the last couple of years, please, London?
	Well it's been rough because you know after I told him I was pregnant and he he told me you know he took accountability for it to my face and then he eventually just kind of faded off and so I come home to Arkansas and I think I'm just gonna have a child and You're unaware.
	Before you're a mother, you don't truly understand.
	And so I think, I'm just going to have a child, and I'm not going to tell her who the dad is.
	I'm not going to tell her who her father is.
	I'm just going to raise this child in rural Arkansas and never tell anyone.
	No one will ever know about it.
	And then you have a child.
	And that's why it took months after to file a paternity test, because it took time for me to process what I needed to do, what was best for my daughter.
	And I'm not going to raise a child, and someday when she asks who her dad is, say, I don't know.
	Or tell her I don't want to talk about it or we'll talk about it some... I'm not gonna do that.
	And so I realized that I would do anything after I had her for my daughter.
	And so it was getting thrown around to a few friends.
	He had met with a couple of my friends after I had her.
	And, you know, he had told them, well, I mean, how do I even know if it's mine?
	And they were like, Hunt.
	So he played that game.
	Yeah.
	Hunt, you know it's yours.
	And then when I heard that he had done that, I was like, OK, he's not going to take accountability for this ever.
	And I'm a mother now.
	And I'm looking at my daughter knowing that I can never tell.
	She's deserving of the world.
	And I'm not going to tell her that, well, you don't have a father.
	Like, no, yes, you do.
	Yes, you do.
	And he's going to take accountability for it.
	So I took him to court for a paternity test.
	He denied it.
	And, um, you know, we had a lot of media and stuff putting press on, or press putting, you know, pressure on him as far as getting him to take the paternity test.
	It took, it took a while to get it.
	But isn't there also an aspect that he denied your right to have his name be the last name of your daughter?
	What's the story there?
	So he doesn't get to be, your daughter can't be Navy Biden.
	She can someday.
	We agreed that she can someday if she chooses that.
	But right now?
	But right now, she is a Roberts.
	Why?
	Why?
	I mean, this is his daughter, correct?
	Correct.
	Absolutely.
	And it was proven with scientific certainty.
	But yes, he claimed that, you know, it's probably better for her safety.
	Do you believe that?
	Is that his main concern?
	Well, I...
	I don't think her safety is his main concern.
	I wrote a letter to my attorney to give to him and his attorney back when it was first brought up.
	I believe during the paternity suit or shortly after.
	I talk about that letter throughout the book.
	Now you have this newfound care for your daughter's safety and well-being.
	And I talk about that.
	There's, I mean, there's a lot of angry times through this book.
	And that's another reason people are like, why are you telling your story?
	And it's like, it's first, it's, it's a process.
	It's taken a complete journey to do.
	But I want my daughter to know that even through those darkest times and those angry moments and stuff, you know, like she can get through them.
	And my story is something, you know, that I think that one day she would admire.
	I could only hope.
	Well, I think you're a brave woman.
	Stay with us for one more segment.
	We're talking to London Roberts, the author of the imminent book, pre-order it right now, Out of the Shadows, My Life Inside the Wild World of Hunter Biden.
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	We are back with London Roberts The mother of the beautiful Navey Roberts, the author of the upcoming book, pre-order it right now, Out of the Shadows, My Life Inside the Wild World of Hunter Biden.
	Now, we've all seen that clip of the current president, Joe Biden, not knowing how many grandchildren he has and definitely not having a Christmas tree ornament for your daughter, Navey, on the White House Christmas tree.
	But she is Hunter Biden's daughter.
	So I presume you get Secret Service protection like all the members of the Biden family?
	No, Navy doesn't get protected.
	Why?
	I'm not sure.
	I'm not sure.
	It is something that my attorney... But you've proven the paternity of your daughter is Hunter Biden's daughter.
	So you're related.
	She is.
	She is.
	She's a Biden, regardless of what her last name is.
	I don't understand.
	It's kind of... You know, it's something I don't understand either, and I was asked in interviews before, you know, if you had one question, what would it be?
	If you got to ask one question, what would it be?
	And it's, why?
	I'm not sure.
	I don't understand.
	All right, so the subtitle of the book is, you know, Hunter Biden's Wild World.
	In one of the stories from the book I've been sent, it says that you feared for your life one night, You were barricaded in your bedroom and you loaded every gun in the house and were ready to go.
	What happened that night?
	One, I'll say it, as crazy as that sounds, That night actually, I was engaged during the paternity suit.
	I was engaged and I met a guy, but the paternity suit just kind of drove him crazy.
	He couldn't deal with it.
	He was very conservative and could not handle the media, the publicity, and who my child's father was.
	And so it led him to his own newfound addictions.
	He, you know, when we separated and I broke things off, you know, I even came up here and stayed, me and my child, for about a month to get away from it because there was a lot of harassment and a lot of things that were happening during that time.
	And he actually came to the house that night, banging on the door with a knife.
	He had cut the wires to the security cameras.
	We'd already called the cops twice.
	He was beating, trying to knock the door down to get in.
	And I was barricaded.
	He had claimed he was on his way to take our souls.
	So that's when, for example, Secret Service protection could have been very useful for you and your daughter?
	Could have, yes.
	And there's been, there's actually been other times that we've, even me and my daughter, we sleep in the same room for this reason.
	And I have these guard dog sticks that I put up on every door.
	So my nightly routine is a lot different.
	To secure your bedroom?
	Yeah, bedroom and all doors.
	So, you know, my nightly routine's a lot different than most mothers.
	I go out and I turn the lights off, I lock all the doors, and I put guard sticks up on every door.
	You wedge the doors?
	Yes, and even at Airbnb's, like, if I go stay somewhere, somewhere else, like, there's booby traps and stuff in every door and places of the house, so in case somebody does get in, I can hear them if I'm asleep.
	And that's part of our life.
	Like, that's something that I've done that's not normal.
	And it's been a normal part of my life for a long time.
	It's been normal to Navy her entire life.
	And there's been times that, you know, our house has gotten broken into or our security system has, like, just failed us.
	Completely disconnected from the Wi-Fi and you don't know what's going on out there or what's happening.
	And there's been nights that there was someone in the house, and I've had to call my dad to come over 2, 3 o'clock in the morning, as I sit at the end of my bed with a Glock.
	Of course, I keep guns hidden in certain places for that reason, but yeah, and it doesn't seem normal, like me saying that to you, but that's our normal.
	The book is Out of the Shadows.
	My life inside the wild world of Hunter Biden.
	If you could say one thing to him, to Hunter Biden and to his father, Joe Biden, what would it be, London?
	I mean, if he's denied paternity, if Joe doesn't recognize your child as his granddaughter, what message do you have for them?
	Well, you know, I wrote a letter to Hunter at the end of the book.
	But I'd like them to know that on the family values that they stand on, they've missed out.
	They say they stand on.
	That they say they stand on.
	They've missed out because there is a beautiful little Biden that they've missed out on so much.
	And she's incredible.
	And I just ask them why.
	I mean, it's clear that they don't stand on those values, so... That's what I don't understand.
	If that's something that you stand on, then... Wouldn't you like to protect Navy from their values?
	Probably.
	If their values are... Because their values are proven in actions, not in what they say.
	Right.
	And their actions with you have been reprehensible.
	Right.
	And that's why I keep wanting to know why.
	Because these are the values that you stand on.
	So why?
	Why is this case different?
	Why is, you know, why is... Because this is a question my daughter is going to have one day.
	So it's a question that I have.
	It's tough.
	Because you don't...
	It puts me in a tough spot because I mean it's like you know it's like I say I I dedicate my life from the time I've had her to my daughter that's what this book is dedicated it's what I dedicate my life to and I I think she's good enough good enough if not too good.
	Do you have a support network, London?
	I do.
	I have a very good support network.
	I have, you know, my family back home, my mother, my father, sister, all my friends, everybody is pretty tight-knit back home.
	And the community itself has surrounded themselves around, you know, Navy to protect her.
	They protected her identity and all that.
	Will you come back for a longer discussion when the book is finally released?
	Sure!
	All right.
	Well, I want to say to you that you are a brave woman.
	Thank you.
	We salute you.
	You've come out of the shadows.
	It's the perfect name for the book, Out of the Shadows.
	She is the mother of Hunter Biden's daughter.
	Oh my gosh, what a beautiful... Look at that little girl.
	Look at that beautiful, beautiful girl, Navey Roberts.
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	you If you look at the statistics, the crime rate among immigrants is far lower than the crime rate among native-born Americans.
	So the whole issue is wrong.
	Aren't the crimes preventable, though, if these people don't have a right to be here in the first place?
	I've said what I'm going to say.
	Oh, so immigrants, illegals, create less crime.
	But what if we got rid of them and they'd commit no crime?
	Jerry Nadler's response?
	I've said what I'm going to say.
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	And what's gonna happen if the good guys win on November the 5th?
	Who better to ask than the author of the book, yes, The Attack, the one and only Colonel K. Kurt Schlichter!
	Welcome back to America First.
	Well, thanks for having me, Dr. Gorka, and I frankly hope that tonight that Jake Tapper and Dana Bash ask about the possibility of an attack.
	I mean, we've got 400 ISIS-connected people in the country.
	Oh, wait a minute!
	I'm sorry!
	Zero!
	Mallorca says there's none!
	Can you see through my... I think you're like using the Vulcan mind-meld.
	Who told him about Cut 12?
	This is the man who's meant to secure the border.
	He's allegedly the Secretary of Homeland Security being asked exactly that question about the 400 ISIS-connected illegals.
	DHS confirms that at least 400 migrants with potential ISIS ties recently crossed into the United States.
	That is incorrect.
	Tell us why.
	That reporting is incorrect.
	We do not have identified 400 people with potential ISIS ties.
	And let me again assure you that individuals who are identified to have those ties I think it is inaccurate.
	Reassuring, right, Colonel K?
	safety and security perspective and they would be priorities for detained
	detention and removal. Calling that initial NBC report inaccurate over the
	400 potential ISIS ties? I think it is inaccurate. I think it is inaccurate
	reassuring right Colonel Kaye? Oh I feel really good about it. I'm super excited
	You know, when you let 10 million people in without monitoring them, and you have enemies around the globe, it's, you know, call me crazy, but if I was one of the enemies, I'd slip a few folks in just to cause a little trouble, just to have a little edge, but what do I know?
	Oh wait, I know a lot more in my orcas, as does anyone who's conscious.
	So that's exactly what I've been saying.
	If you do the, you know, the red team.
	So now, you know, the U.S.
	military has this concept that there's, you know, a red team cell next to every combatant commander who tries to think like the enemy.
	And if you're North Korea, if you're ISIS, if you're Russia, if you're Iran, we know 8 million illegals.
	That's the official figure.
	You can double that with 8 million gotaways.
	If that's 1% are bad guys, that's 80,000 bad guys.
	80,000 is a lot of bad guys, Kurt.
	Yeah, that is a lot.
	And it's a real problem.
	But apparently not to this administration.
	And the fact is, something's going to happen, Dr. Bork.
	Something horrible is going to happen.
	People are going to get hurt.
	And of course, they're going to blame everyone else but themselves.
	And we have a regime media that's going to go along with it.
	If something happens, I mean, given the level of gaslighting we've seen in just the last seven days, if something happens now before the election, they're going to try and blame Trump, aren't they?
	Of course they are.
	Of course they are, and the regime media will go along with it, and a number of stupid people will go along with it, or cynical people.
	The reality is that normal people are seeing through it, and we've seen the polls.
	And again, look, I readily admit, I thought Donald Trump was going to have trouble getting a majority of voters to accept him in this election.
	Well, I underestimated Joe Biden's capabilities for failure.
	I underestimate his ability to give James Buchanan a run for the money as the worst president in American history.
	I think that is an empirical statement.
	I've read the book.
	I fact-checked it.
	It is very disturbing about what could happen to America.
	In an October the 7th style assault on our nation.
	It's called the attack.
	You need to get it right now.
	You need to follow Kurt at Kurt Schlichter on Twitter and at townhall.com.
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	So many possibilities.
	Yeah, I know, I know.
	We gotta get Hunter and Joe in.
	Maybe just The Wild World of Hunter Biden?
	No, no, no, no.
	No, that's too nice.
	Something about their so-called family values.
	Or maybe about how she feels unsafe.
	And they won't protect her.
	Yeah, they're both good.
	Should we split it in two?
	You want to split it in two?
	What do you think, Joe?
	You know what I would put?
	What?
	Hunter's crackhead son gets Secret Service Protection, but not his three-year-old granddaughter.
	Yeah.
	It's pretty long.
	Something like that.
	That is pretty good.
	The Secret Service protect Hunter, but not... Hunter gets protection, but his daughter doesn't.
	Hell, RFK doesn't!
	Yeah, yeah, but we're talking about the interview we just did with London Roberts.
	Let's get it really right.
	Let's wait till we're done with Kurt.
	Okay.
	Or how about Navy, say your name, Joe, like they do, like to do something like that.
	Oh, that's good.
	Let's keep thinking about it.
	Okay.
	Okay. 90 seconds.
	Oh, crap.
	We've got to do 13 if we have time.
	Um, come in with 13.
	Come in with 13?
	I actually got the, uh, groceries thing.
	I cut it out.
	Oh, good!
	Oh, you did?
	We'll do that in the e-block.
	That's great.
	Eric, grab that one again.
	PhD.
	Yep.
	I'll call it cut 15.
	The grocery.
	Coming in with 13.
	And then PhD.
	Come with 13 and PhD.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	But it's in our national security interest to stand up for LGBTI plus persons around the world.
	When nations came together 75 years ago, they affirmed in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, respect for the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family.
	That's the foundation of freedom, justice, and peace in the world.
	And we see that here at the State Department every single day.
	Countries that respect the rights of every individual tend to be more stable.
	That's the definition of diplomacy.
	America has to fight for LGBTQ LMNOP rights.
	That is Antony Blinken.
	How bad can it get?
	I'm looking for it on my phone.
	I can't find it right now, but I found a lovely, lovely tweet from the State Department about music and how they're using music to stabilize the world.
	I'm sure Putin loves a bit of Vanilla ice.
	Goes perfectly with with this tweet.
	I don't know if we have it yet.
	I found this yesterday.
	I'm sure our friend Kurt Schlicht has something to say about it.
	The CIA spies, spooks intelligence agents or Animal therapy headquarters.
	Yeah.
	The CIA has announced that they have a canine animal support team now for... I guess it's for all the LGBTQ LMNOP people who work there.
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	Eric, if you get that image, just put it on as we're talking to the good Colonel, because he won't believe me after what I just said.
	Your reaction, Colonel K, to LGBTQ, LMNOP, that's what the world needs right now?
	You know, there's nothing smarter than going out to a foreign country, an ally or something that maybe has a different culture, and flying your pride flag.
	This is such a good point.
	This is just another version.
	This is woke neocolonialism, isn't it, Kurt?
	Yeah!
	Look, they've tried to conquer us and now they want to go conquer foreigners.
	And foreigners don't want to have anything to do with it.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	I've got it here.
	So, Kurt, you might have missed this.
	This is the official CIA Instagram account, okay?
	I've stood on that.
	That is the symbol of the CIA in the foyer of Langley.
	And it's got five dogs on it.
	And here is the entry.
	This is the entry on Instagram from the CIA.
	Had a rough day?
	Are you FF?
	Well, you know, I like dogs as much as anybody.
	Charlie, ha ha ha, have you heard that dogs can have a positive impact on your well-being?
	This month the CIA is celebrating one year since the launch of our super popular canine
	well-being program.
	Hey, how do you think, what do you think Vladimir Putin thinks of that post?
	Well, you know, I like dogs as much as anybody.
	And by the way, I've seen your tweet of your new dog and he's fantastic.
	But I would prefer a CIA that understood how to spy on our enemies and undermine them.
	Instead, the CIA, of course, has a legacy of ashes.
	It's the perfect scam, Dr. Gorka.
	All their successes are, like, secret.
	We can't tell you about our successes, but, boy, we know about their failures.
	But it's okay.
	It's okay.
	They've got a canine wellness division now, Colonel K. Relax.
	Yeah, maybe I need to go get my, uh, maybe I need to go get Barky and Bitey and chill out a little.
	All right, I wanted to talk about the debate.
	We've only got like three minutes left.
	You've, you know, you were on team De Santis.
	Now you say we've got our man fully behind the president.
	What should the play be tonight?
	Because I've kind of convinced myself that he's got the base.
	He's got people like you.
	He needs to play to the middle, behave nice and just let the crippled, senile old man make a fool of himself.
	Does he play nice tonight?
	Look, I think there's a real danger in winning too much, because people may feel sorry for Joe Biden, because he's so obviously decrepit, senile, and perverted and corrupt.
	So, you know, the President, look, he obviously knew he was walking into an ambush when he agreed to do this.
	He knew the entire deck was stacked against him.
	He got that.
	He understood.
	So I think he has a plan, and frankly, You know, who's better at public relations than Donald Trump?
	Who knows better how to get his message out than Donald Trump?
	And I'm not saying that as somebody who is, you know, I mean, that is an objective fact, rather than, you know, a fanboy talking about him.
	He really understands how to make things clear.
	And I think, I'm curious to see what he does tonight.
	I think Joe Biden will do very well because he's going to be hopped up on a combination of amphetamines, goofballs, and Imodium.
	And those little white baggies from the White House.
	Oh, we just, the Secret Service, who knows?
	All right, we've been doing the sweepstakes here.
	As you say, the president has been playing with the mainstream media like a cat with a mouse about the Veep pic.
	Who would you like to see in the second position?
	Look, my dream vice president is J.D.
	Vance, of the people that are being talked about, you know, ideologically.
	But I think you need to add something that you don't have on the ticket.
	I think you need someone to kind of reassure the weirdo sissies and weak-heart Republicans who are mad because Trump made a mean queen.
	So I think somebody like Glenn Youngkin or Doug Burgum would be good.
	Glenn Youngkin may actually help in Virginia, which, my gosh, already appears to be in play.
	That's crazy.
	But what about Burgum's eyebrows?
	Can you get over the caterpillars?
	Well, Vice President Frida Kahlo.
	If you don't know who that is, look it up.
	It's the most famous unibrow in history.
	Alright, what does 700, 600, 500, 400 ISIS-connected illegals in America mean?
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	you Dr. G is ready for anything on America First.
	Mr. G, did you edit that Instagram video I found earlier?
	Because we don't want to get in trouble with the FCC.
	I did.
	Hopefully that's the one that Eric has.
	We're about to find out.
	What did you think?
	Wasn't that cool?
	I did like it.
	It was actually pretty good.
	So here's a relatively young guy, looks like a bit of a millennial, who shops at Walmart online and he does his groceries by month and he found an old basket of his groceries from two years ago And then priced out the same basket, now under Biden.
	Wow, this has to be a campaign ad.
	Maybe President Trump will use it tonight.
	They don't allow props tonight, but what are they going to do to him?
	Are they going to get the FBI to pull him off stage if he pulls out his phone and plays this video?
	It's all rather good.
	Hit it.
	I feel like I'm going to be sick.
	I just, like, looked through my Walmart history, and I found this, like, um, Walmart order from two years ago for the whole month worth of groceries.
	45 items cost $126.
	A whole month of groceries just for me, basically.
	But, I did notice this reorder all button, and I wanted to see how much it would cost now.
	Now?
	This order of 45 items for one month would have cost $414.
	That is four times more.
	How?
	That is four times more!
	How?
	Like, what?
	I mean, it's just normal stuff, like, you know, like chips, Ritz crackers.
	He's by himself, it's a month's worth of supplies.
	Two years ago, $126.
	Now, here's your Bidenomics.
	$414 for exactly the same items from Walmart.
	economics. $414 for exactly the same items from Walmart.
	What's the question Reagan asked? Oh yeah, you're better off than you were four
	years ago.
	I think we can change that to, are you better off than you were just a year ago under Biden?
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	Vote Trump.
	That was, of course, the president when he was in Philadelphia.
	And somebody I know, I think, has some connection to Philadelphia.
	Maybe he does some radio show there.
	Not only that, he interviewed my former boss.
	And we're going to have a very special one-on-one with him.
	He keeps that city, amongst others, sane every morning.
	And I'm going to be cruising with him and my wife, Katie, to Alaska in just a couple of days.
	Chris de Gaulle, welcome back to Back to America first.
	I can't wait, Seb.
	I'm looking so forward to seeing you in person on the ship with your lovely wife.
	Good to be back.
	Likewise, likewise.
	All right, we'll play a little clip of you and the boss later.
	But first, since Biden's still hiding out at Camp David, in the meantime, President Trump's going from New Jersey to the Bronx to Detroit to Philly.
	Tell us what the rally was like.
	Had you been to many before?
	You know, Seb, I had only been to rallies outside of major city centers, and I think that's what makes this so unique, as you well know and have been talking about on your show.
	He's now choosing to play offense, and he's going into deep blue country.
	He's going into deep blue cities.
	In fact, even the Philadelphia Enquirer had to acknowledge He is playing in deep blue Philadelphia, the bluest city in Pennsylvania.
	And I thought what was most notable about this rally was not what was going on inside, but I sent you this video myself because I wanted everybody to see it.
	The news to me about this rally was what was going on outside, and that is nothing.
	There was nothing going on outside.
	Well, hang on, hang on.
	They were like two demonstrators or something.
	Really?
	And that is remarkable when you consider cold, right?
	Particularly deep blue cities.
	They hate Donald Trump.
	And there's this rage against Donald Trump.
	Not true.
	This is a majority-minority city.
	This is a pretty rough area of Philadelphia, North Philly.
	And there was virtually no opposition to the man.
	Now, does that mean there's universal love in North Philadelphia for Trump?
	Maybe not.
	But it means there's antipathy at best.
	And that's very good news for Trump.
	All right, so talk to us about what we're hearing, because I live in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
	You keep, you know, Pennsylvania, Philly sane in the morning on the AM 990 channel, The Answer.
	When you hear, and I just, I feel like I have to take a cold shower every day, but when I hear, you know, my Commonwealth is in play, When, you know, my wife who runs the GOP for the biggest county in Virginia says, yeah, the RNC sending us 27 staff members to have a ground game in Northern Virginia, what never happened in the last 16 years I've been here.
	When we talk to Cliff Maloney and others and Scott Pressler, who are registering voters across Pennsylvania, and you hear PAs in play.
	Chris, give me a sanity check.
	How do you look at all of these reports?
	Seb, the numbers are there.
	Undoubtedly in Pennsylvania I can speak to this.
	The registration numbers are there.
	We've talked with our old buddy Ted Nugent about this before.
	You know he's big on getting the hunting community engaged.
	Do you know the number of hunters in Pennsylvania registered to vote that don't vote?
	It's shocking.
	Yeah.
	And so, the point is, the numbers are on our side.
	I mean, Republican registrations have surged in the last couple of years, particularly thanks to the efforts of guys like Scott.
	But will they show up?
	And I just can't imagine this year people would be apathetic and not show up.
	If people show up, if we do what Trump says, swamp the vote.
	I have no doubt he can win Pennsylvania.
	But, you know, people have their misgivings.
	I've told you this before.
	We've talked.
	There are a lot of sad sacks and naysayers who sit on the sidelines and say, Philadelphia will rig it.
	They'll never let him win.
	I do worry about the pessimism on our side sometimes.
	That kind of fatalist, nattering, nabob business.
	He can't win.
	They'll never let him win.
	It's all fixed.
	Why bother?
	I hope that attitude is not pervasive.
	Look, it is a very special self-selected group when we have our listeners call in to the show, but do you have a sense of what it is that's turning Pennsylvania or Virginia into these states in play?
	Is it just the hoary old, it's the economy, stupid, just the economics, or is it more than that?
	Are we seeing Democrat voters or independents Finally say, yeah, it's got to be Trump.
	Maybe it's too easy or simple to say, but certainly when you're paying north of $3, sometimes flirting with $4 a gallon for gas, when groceries are just unbelievably expensive for a handful of items in your cart, the safety issue in places like Philadelphia and the surrounding suburbs, it's spilling out into the collard counties of Philadelphia.
	Now the crime Sab is very real and getting worse.
	We've seen many illegals, of course, now raping and murdering women and children, maybe not in Philadelphia specifically, although we found some ISIS-linked terrorists who have illegally immigrated into Philadelphia.
	So I think the safety issue is a huge one, of course.
	Coupled with the economy, it just seems to me, as Trump once said, what the hell have you got to lose?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So tell us a little bit, for those who've never been to a Trump rally, you should go.
	Tell us what the atmosphere was like.
	We'll talk about the president in the next segment.
	What was the rally like in Philadelphia?
	Yeah, it was.
	Look, they're the lefties that are trying to make the news.
	Well, he didn't fill the Lea Cora Center.
	That's the facility where the Temple Owls play basketball.
	10,000 seat arena.
	And you've seen these arenas before.
	They have to cordon off parts of it for the media and things like that.
	So left wing media were trying to make a deal out of it that every seat up to the Raptors wasn't packed.
	And I said, no, what a stupid story.
	What a stupid angle.
	He came to North Philadelphia that there was half An arena full is a remarkable story.
	And it was over half full.
	I don't know how much.
	But the enthusiasm was through the roof.
	The faces, frankly, of people that I typically wouldn't see in a rural farm field rally, there were a lot of them.
	There were a lot of folks of color, a lot of Latinos for Trump, a lot of black faces.
	And that was a remarkable thing to see, I think.
	And if you watch the video of it, behind him, The number of black Americans you will see sitting behind Donald Trump cheering him on when he talks about the economy, when he talks about security, when he talks about the border, when he talks about the instability around the globe.
	That matters, no matter your skin color.
	And I think the black community is starting, particularly black men, are starting to buy into what Trump said so long ago, which is, I don't know what the hell we have to lose.
	Why wouldn't we try Trump?
	Things couldn't be any worse.
	Yeah.
	For those who missed the rally, go back.
	You can find the footage on Rumble right side broadcasting.
	We'll have the whole thing.
	There was there's a lot of black, you know, Philadelphians in the audience and behind literally right behind the president is the funnest thing to watch.
	There's a black woman with her.
	I think Hispanic boyfriend or husband and she was constantly tickling him and making fun.
	It was just And he's hilarious, as you know.
	He loves them.
	of these people just having fun behind him, hiding behind the banners, it was quite a
	treat.
	But that's what it's like, that's what these rallies are like.
	Super fun, a big family, yeah, that's why.
	And he's hilarious, as you know.
	He loves them.
	He's so much fun.
	And when he goes off script, forget being the president.
	I said in the White House, forget having the nuclear launch codes.
	The hardest job in the presidential administration is to be the young man who operated the teleprompter.
	Because you're like, he's gone off script.
	Okay.
	Oh, what is he?
	Oh, is he back?
	Is he back?
	So the guy who has the big, you know, dial to operate the teleprompter, that is the high pressure job.
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	There were terrible stories in the last just few weeks from Texas to Georgia to New York and Maryland.
	Murders, rapes, children, women.
	And meanwhile, our Justice Department seems to be targeting parents at school board meetings.
	And certainly you know a thing or two about them.
	I do.
	Me, and parents, and Catholics.
	Christians, but Catholics.
	I don't know what's going on with Catholics, but they're really going after Catholics.
	The only one they don't target are bad people.
	And killers, murderers, drug dealers.
	The country's really lost its way.
	It's lost everything.
	It's just so bad, and we have to win this election.
	If we don't win this election, it's going to be such a tragedy.
	The only people they're not targeting is the bad people.
	Yeah, pretty well put.
	The reports of ISIS terrorists being let into the country.
	If you beat up an NYPD cop on camera, you'll be let off without bail less than five hours later.
	And then, of course, we have the horrific stories of what's happening to young girls across America.
	That was Krista Gall with the president at Philly.
	I just want to Leverage that.
	I want to build upon that.
	Eric, will you play that incredibly powerful cut from the mother of the 12-year-old girl from Houston who was raped and then strangled by those two illegals?
	Look at the people that are here.
	They care about you.
	What is your message as her mother to the justice system?
	Please don't fail us.
	Please don't let us down.
	The city of Houston has done everything in their power to bring this to light and now it's the justice system to do their part as well.
	It's a community effort.
	It's a partnership we all have to follow through and we all need to give them their punishments that they deserve because my baby didn't deserve this.
	What do you hope that punishment is?
	They have to get the punishment they deserve.
	Chris, had you met the president before?
	I'm sure he'd be on your show telephonically.
	Had you met him before?
	Very briefly and not like this and I will tell you that my impression of the man given this tight constraints that I had in my time with him Boy, he was nimble on every single issue I threw a lot of different issues at him fast and this guy not only is he soft-spoken and sharp but he's focused and he has answers to everything without fumbling without groping and Are you kidding?
	Are you kidding me?
	great exception when he said that he practices for the debate by talking to
	people like me. CNN really thought that was newsworthy and literally turned that
	into a story. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Not kidding. Not kidding.
	They thought that was a joke. They thought it was a laugh that Trump says
	talking to real people, talking to talk show hosts and taking our questions is
	some sort of laughable prospect while Biden is holed up at Camp David prepping
	for an over a week and not going to the White House.
	With his 16 sycophants.
	Guys, I didn't make that up.
	He has 16 advisors advising him for a week for a 90 minute debate.
	Let me just go down that rabbit hole for a second.
	I don't care what you are.
	I don't care if you're, you know, Ben Carson brain surgeon, or if you're an astronaut going to Mars.
	If you have 16 people prepping you for 90 minutes, you're doing something wrong, Chris.
	For over a week, no less.
	He has not been on the job.
	I mean, probably never been on the job, but I mean, he's not literally been at the White House in over a week prepping for this thing.
	And as Trump says, probably getting his shots, his juice.
	And I... What I love about Trump is, and I believe he's sincere, he doesn't really need the prep.
	He wants to hear what people think.
	And, you know, you write no tax on tips.
	That excites people.
	When you say, they're coming after me while our women and girls are being raped and killed, what sense does that make?
	That's really all you need to prep for, it seems to me.
	The country's in a mess.
	He tells that story.
	There's your prep.
	You're a deep thinker.
	You know politics very, very well.
	You're a superb radio host.
	Let me ask you the dangerous question, because we have to kind of channel Wicked people, or I don't know what we're channeling, demons or something.
	You listen to that mother.
	You listen to all the angel mothers.
	What is going on with the Democrat Party?
	I mean, you cannot deny, if you're breathing and you're sentient, You know America is in danger.
	Innocent people are being raped, killed every single day because of decisions being made by a Democrat administration.
	What happened to that party?
	They're godless.
	Ann Coulter wrote the book on it years ago, Godless.
	They quite literally, I love to remind people of this, literally debated keeping God out of their party platform altogether years ago, and when they slipped it back in, I was there at that convention, they booed on the convention floor that the Democrats quickly slipped God back into their party platform.
	They do not believe in a Creator.
	They hate the American family.
	Those two things are the biggest enemies of the Democrat Party and the American Left.
	I know people who are agnostics or even atheists, and they try to be good.
	They're utilitarian.
	They try to be nice.
	He hurt the least people.
	How many years have we been told, Chris, If one life can be saved by banning guns, then we have to ban all guns.
	Okay, well with that logic, if one girl, if we can stop the rape and murder of one girl, then we shouldn't let any immigrants in this country, none, zero.
	So it's got to be more than just denying God.
	It's got to be something actually proactively wicked, doesn't it?
	Well, yeah, and I hate to throw this in there, but you could include abortion into that discussion.
	I mean, this adoration, this love, this commitment to run on that as an issue this fall, of all the things that's facing this country, and they're still going to run on killing babies in the womb.
	I mean, they love death.
	They're a culture of death.
	Death does not bother them at all, as a matter of fact.
	And the violence that's in cities like Philadelphia, in mostly black cities, the black-on-black violence, they don't talk about that.
	So they are a culture of death.
	They don't value human life.
	They don't value a creator.
	They don't value the family.
	They don't value God.
	And so when you take God and you extract those things out, I mean, you can start to convince young children that they're not fearfully and wonderfully made, that they maybe were born as a mistake and they were assigned the wrong gender.
	It's wicked.
	It's devilish.
	And if there's no reality, there's no truth, then you can construct this country in any way you can imagine after that.
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	Well said.
	Thank you.
	Years of training.
	You said, I think you said right, and if I'm incorrect, please correct me, that for you the tipping point, the Damascene moment, Was the raid on Mar-a-Lago, when the FBI sent agents with loaded guns, ordered his attorneys to stand outside, switched off the CCT cameras, bought the cover sheets for classified documents as props, that that's when it changed for you.
	Can you walk us through that moment for you politically and spiritually?
	It horrified me, Seb.
	It really horrified me.
	And I'm not unique there.
	I know you felt the same way, as did everyone else.
	But that was the moment that I said to myself, if that's allowed to stand...
	If we normalize that, and that's not just Trump, I mean any president of the United States going forward is now subject to some rogue Department of Justice weaponizing itself against its political enemies.
	That is something we see done in third world dictatorships, not the United States of America.
	We can't abide it.
	That's why this Supreme Court ruling, I think, is so Critically important, and we gotta reign that in.
	To me, when there was a discussion of a primary, I mean no disrespect to the other Republicans.
	I really don't.
	Well, maybe a couple of them, but I was never anti-DeSantis, for instance.
	But I said to the audience at the time, I gotta be honest with you, I've tried to be Switzerland in Republican primaries before.
	But I cannot abide, I cannot stand by and allow that to happen to Donald Trump.
	And if that guy is willing to put himself and his family through that and all that he's been put through, all the many, many indictments and fought at great personal cost and his time and his energy when he could have just packed it up and left.
	If he's willing to do that, then we've got to hang with him and fight behind him.
	Because if he doesn't correct this, if we can't correct this, it inexorably changes the country's direction forever.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Do you have any Democrat friends, Chris?
	I do, a few, and family, believe it or not.
	And what do they think?
	Do they think, oh well, Mar-a-Lago's fine because the guy's a criminal?
	Yeah, I think they are just inclined to believe, naturally believe.
	They can't really, when you drill down on anything, as you know, what specifically did he do?
	They can't answer that.
	If you really ask a Democrat, what did he do?
	Can you articulate specifically what law he broke?
	They can't.
	It's just over the years they've worked themselves into this froth that he's just a bad guy.
	He's like Al Capone.
	Well, how?
	Well, they can't tell you, but they're pretty sure Jake Tapper knows, and he tells them, and that's fine.
	So, you know, I've never found anybody to articulate why they think he's a bad guy.
	That's the thing that always amazes me the most.
	They just instinctively feel he is.
	And, you know, that's the thing.
	I've stopped trying to debate it.
	You can't debate with people that Trump's, in fact, a good guy.
	So I don't, I really don't bother.
	I don't know how many people in this country you can reach And say, no, Trump really is a good guy.
	Listen to me that way.
	I think it's just, you know, damn your lying eyes.
	If you're looking around and you don't see that things are demonstrably worse, I don't know what more we can do for you.
	It's, you know, it's not, you know, when Corinne Jean-Pierre says it's a deep fake that we're leading this husk around by the arm at fundraisers, it most certainly is not.
	And that's just up to the American people.
	Are you going to ignore your own eyes and ears and what we're living and seeing or not?
	If it's all about a personality, we've got to start being adults in this country and voting policy, not personality.
	Yeah, I'm not sure that's possible if tens of millions of people are indoctrinated and they can't justify why they liked him, they loved him, they wrote songs about him, they made him, you know, have cameo appearances in their movies and then he comes down an escalator says he's a Republican and then he's You know, the devil incarnate.
	That's not the act of a logical human being.
	That's a child.
	That's somebody who doesn't have mental capacity.
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	Okay, then... I could use a clip of him with a little boy.
	From Philly.
	No, that's really hard on video.
	Oh, come in with eight.
	Today's eight.
	And part of the thing is, we're living in the United States of amnesia.
	People really just don't remember how awful and terrible the Trump days were.
	I mean, there was a reason that he got voted out.
	And so now there's this weird kind of nostalgia for the Trump days, which if you look back at any of the headlines or any of what was going on, nobody was happy during that period of time.
	It was a complete upset.
	Nobody was happy during the Trump years.
	Oh my gosh.
	I'm not even going to waste time on what Van Jones just said.
	He is an avowed communist.
	He did work in the Obama administration for a short while.
	If you pinioned them down.
	So we know what those four years were like, especially before COVID.
	The economy, the border, crushing ISIS, no new wars anywhere, lowest unemployment on every metric, the mortgage rates, the price of gas.
	So that's what we want back.
	Prosperity and safety.
	And I'm just curious, can you imagine What would the likes of Van Jones say if we asked them, so what exactly is so great about the last three and a half years?
	Any ideas?
	Any suggestions?
	Any ideas?
	Yeah, that's right.
	Not only could he not answer it, again, I would just go back to, would you please Articulate what made you so unhappy.
	That's another great question to ask Democrats.
	What made you so unhappy about Trump during his presidency?
	They can't answer that.
	I can.
	You can.
	And we know that this Department of Justice is quite literally at this hour still knocking on the doors of patriots who just showed up to make their voices heard on January 6th.
	They're still rousting good Catholics and Christians out of their beds in the early morning hours because they dare protest outside an abortion clinic.
	We are targets of this government.
	We are being victimized and bullied by this government.
	They're working with social media to collude and keep us quiet and censor our voices.
	They are actively bullying the half of this country that they don't like.
	Now tell me one time that Donald Trump or his administration did that to one single Democrat.
	They can't.
	Wow, so powerfully put.
	All right, let's try one last sector that you may be able to help me with, because I ask this of all the smartest people I know.
	We know why the left does what they do.
	You're right.
	It's because they're godless.
	It's because, really, I think they hate America.
	You can't be helping out Iran unless you hate America, and that's exactly what the Biden administration does.
	You can't be, you know, opening our borders to rapists and criminals and murderers unless you hate America.
	What about the Never Trumpers?
	You got me in a lot of trouble in front of your audience.
	You just would not let me walk out of that cigar bar without me giving my full double-barreled explication of who the governor of Florida really is.
	We'll leave that to another discussion on another day.
	What is it about people who say That they're conservatives who say that they're Republicans.
	The Romneys, the Cheneys, the Kinzingers, the Paul Ryans.
	To them, Donald Trump is like, you know, garlic to a vampire or kryptonite to Superman.
	I'm still trying to work out why they detest a man so deeply to the marrow of their existence Who is loved by tens of millions of Americans, including the working class and the middle class who they say they represent.
	Have you got a theory on that hatred and what causes it?
	It always seems like the Republicans that are angriest about him are the wealthiest because of the system he opposes.
	That's my working theory.
	It's not more complicated than that.
	It is that these people have really, really, really enriched themselves in ways they probably wouldn't be terribly proud we find out about if Donald Trump were successful in truly getting that swamp drained and exposing a lot of them.
	Liz Cheney in particular.
	I mean, her family.
	I'm embarrassed to admit how gung-ho I was post-9-11 for the Bush-Cheney ticket.
	I was all in.
	I'll admit it.
	I'm one of the guys that years ago cheered, you know, let's build a DHS.
	To have a direct homeland security, that was that stupid kind of jingoistic let's go get the terrorist thing that I got into as a younger conservative.
	Today I see the error of my ways.
	Those people benefited from that era and they don't ever want to let it go.
	And Trump is a representation of a new era and a tide turning where we don't build a military-industrial complex.
	Some people get rich off the Pentagon and all their K Street lobbying.
	Trump's an affront to that.
	And the gravy train is good to those people.
	Yeah, it's interesting.
	When we came into the Trump administration, this was a demand the president made upon us presidential appointees.
	I think it would be unenforceable in a labor court, but everyone who's a presidential appointee, including me and my wife, we had to sign a document saying we would, after our appointment to government, we would refuse to work for any lobbyist for 10 years, and we would refuse to work for any foreign government for the rest of our lives.
	I mean, even if it's unenforceable, think of what that says when your boss, the president, demands that of you, a presidential appointee.
	That's what I was going to ask you.
	That was a Trump expectation?
	Yeah.
	No, that was directly from the boss.
	The president said, if you're going to be one of the 4,000 presidential appointees who has a, you know, a political commissioning document on vellum signed by me, the president, you will sign this declaration about not being a lobbyist.
	I'd never, I'd never heard, this is literally the first time I'd ever heard that.
	I wish that story would be told everywhere he goes.
	And challenge, that's something I would have loved to see him bring up on the stage with Joe Biden.
	Hey, I'm willing to demand that everybody that works for me and with me is exclusively United States focused and no lobbying
	efforts after they leave the office.
	How about you Joe? Well he can't even say that about himself, his brother and his own son.
	He's not gonna be able to...
	Hang on, hang on Chris. I mean are you telling me that you don't have 21 shell companies like
	Joe Biden does?
	No I don't.
	Maybe just a couple.
	Just a couple in Singapore, in Vanuatu, right?
	I send my sons around the globe constantly, just making cash off my name.
	Sure, it's standard practice, isn't it?
	Just the idea.
	I mean, think of it.
	You know your son is a whoring, reprobate junkie.
	And you make him the bag man?
	I mean, maybe pick, you know, Beau Biden, who's not a whoring junkie, to be your literal bag man for the Russians, for the Ukrainians, for the Chinese.
	No, no, no!
	We'll take the guy who's getting strippers pregnant on K Street and who likes to sniff white powder off the buttocks of Russian prostitutes.
	That's how much of a loving father Joe Biden is.
	All right, we'll see what happens tonight in the debate.
	Maybe the president will bring that up.
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	Coming with today's nine, please Well, that's great
	And listen, what do we do at Hezbollah, sir?
	What's the plan?
	And I know you don't want to give away all the strategy, but I'm sure you've got an idea of the way you would handle that.
	Well, it's Hamas.
	It's Hezbollah.
	It's 28 different cells of terror, they call them.
	And, again, Iran was busted.
	They had no money when I was president.
	Now they have a lot of money, $250 billion.
	So it's different.
	But you handle situations as you handle them.
	You got to be respected throughout all the world.
	You have to be respected.
	I hate to use the word feared, but that's not so bad either.
	And once we get it going and once we're In power.
	And we have to be because we're not going to have a country left.
	If we don't win this election, November 5th, if we don't win this election, we won't have a country left, Corey.
	We're not going to have a country.
	And you know that better than anybody.
	We are laughed at.
	They think we're fools.
	They can't believe that Biden is the president.
	And we're going to turn that around.
	We're going to turn it around very fast.
	We won't have a country left.
	That was President Trump with our buddy Corey Lewandowski, who's actually running the convention in Milwaukee.
	Chris, are you going to be there in Milwaukee?
	Unfortunately, I will not be, but I know our colleagues will be there covering it, and I'll be very, very interested to see what they have to say.
	You going?
	I am, since I have to be my wife's driver and bodyguard, since she's the chair of the Fairfax County GOP.
	She's going ex officio, and she needs somebody to carry the luggage.
	Seriously, with regards to that clip, it is that level, is it not?
	November the 5th, if he doesn't win, We've lost more than an election, haven't we, Chris?
	You know, one of the things that I asked President Trump yesterday, you know, I had a very short window, but one of the things I really wanted to ask him was, Sir, what do you make of Russian military vessels sailing off of the Florida coast?
	And he said, Chris, do you know you're the first person in media to ask me about that?
	Wow.
	And I'm not saying that to pat myself on the back.
	I'm saying that's an exceptional thing.
	We had a nuke sub from Russia floating, what I'm told was visibly from the Florida coast, not far from Miami.
	I can't confirm that, but that's what I heard.
	But nevertheless, even if it's in Cuban waters, That's alarming stuff.
	That's a big deal.
	And nobody thought it was worth it.
	John Kirby shrugged it off and said, oh, it's common.
	They're constantly taking little voyages out in the water.
	The hell they are.
	I mean, you can speak to this.
	When was the last time Russia sailed around the southern tip of Florida while you were in the administration, Seb?
	With a nuclear submarine and two other frigates.
	Shades of 1962.
	But God bless you, Chris.
	He's the one.
	Look, that's why he's one of our best hosts.
	That's why he's sailing.
	That's why he's the chair, the grand mufti of the Harumph Society, because he asks the questions.
	Other people don't ask.
	All right.
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