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June 19, 2024 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Marc Elias and the Dem plan to steal 2024

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	Joe Biden is humiliating our country on the world stage.
	He's actually humiliating us.
	You saw what happened this weekend.
	It's turning the United States into a total joke all over the world.
	First, he wandered off the G7 in Europe, the stage.
	It looked like he didn't know where the hell he was, but he didn't know where he was.
	He's blaming it now on AI.
	He's saying... He doesn't know what AI is, but that's okay.
	Now they're saying the media is manipulating... Oh, he's saying the media is manipulating now.
	On that one, I have to stick up for the media, I have to tell you.
	He said the media is manipulating the pictures of him constantly not knowing where the hell he is.
	They're doing just the opposite.
	They're making him look better.
	At the G7 in Europe and he had to be rescued by other world leaders.
	They had to pull him back.
	Then he bizarrely put his face on the Pope's forehead.
	What was that all about?
	That was weird.
	That was weird.
	President Trump on four.
	I can't believe that said Racine, Wisconsin.
	But Eric, was that like two days ago?
	That thing when I was complaining that they were having a campaign event during my show?
	That was yesterday as a matter of fact.
	What?
	I think it's going to be like this for the next four months.
	Do you remember what it was like when President Trump was still in the White House?
	Things just move so quickly.
	Guys, you gotta buckle up.
	Things are happening thick and fast.
	President Trump is right.
	They can't hide it.
	Look at what's happening.
	They're still gaslighting us.
	Oh, welcome, dear friends.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, your host for the next three hours here on America First.
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	Okay, back to business.
	They're still trying to tell us.
	What you saw, all that footage we've shown you here of Normandy, Of the 80th anniversary commemorations of Biden trying to sit down on a chair that's not actually behind him.
	Of him looking away from the parachutist who just literally landed in front of him as the Italian Prime Minister has to go and scoop him up as he's walking off into the distance.
	Or walking into columns.
	Well, when he's at the Juneteenth, oh, by the way, I guess happy Juneteenth to you, as he's frozen, completely static, with his arms stuck out there like a mannequin in a shop window, as everyone else is bopping up and down, even George Floyd's brother.
	Eric, what is George Floyd's brother doing at the White House?
	I'm a bit confused.
	What's his claim to fame, that his brother robbed a pregnant woman at gunpoint?
	I mean, these days, that's all it takes for a claim to fame, especially when the Democrats are in charge.
	That's all it takes.
	That gets you a ticket to the White House?
	Yep, that's all it takes.
	Interesting, interesting.
	Yeah, that's who's standing next to Joe Biden as he's standing there like a pillar of salt.
	But let's get serious.
	I want to read to you the words of the mother of the first woman who was murdered in Maryland, 20-year-old Kyla Hamilton, by an illegal who was let into this country by Joe Biden.
	But first, let's listen to Joe Biden as he lectures you on how stupid you are when it comes to not understanding what's going on on the border, cut one.
	They don't understand a lot of it?
	Well, let's listen to those Americans.
	that the patience and goodwill of the American people is being tested by the fears of the poor.
	They don't understand a lot. They don't understand a lot of it?
	Well, let's listen to those Americans. This is from Zach Jewell from the Daily Wire.
	The mother of 20-year-old Kyla Hamilton, who was raped and killed in Maryland in 2022
	by an illegal immigrant, blasted Joe Biden after another illegal was recently arrested
	for the rape and murder of 37-year-old Rachel Morin, who was also killed in Maryland.
	Tammy Nobles, whose daughter was murdered by an El Salvadorian in 2022, told the New York Post that the Biden administration's border policies are to blame for her daughter's murder.
	Nobles said that strategies such as Hamilton's and Maureen's murders keep, quote, occurring because Homeland Security and Health and Human Services are not doing their jobs and other agencies in power like the police and government aren't doing anything to prevent this.
	And Biden sure isn't trying to prevent these types of crimes from happening, she added.
	He is the one that is welcoming the illegal immigrants here.
	Government agencies, federal and local, need to take responsibility and put American citizens first and not last.
	Our safety is not being put first.
	Hamilton, who had autism, was raped and strangled to death inside her mobile home in Aberdeen, Maryland.
	A 17-year-old El Salvadorian who was a member of MS-13 was arrested for committing the murder.
	ICE confirmed that he had entered the United States illegally.
	Earlier this year, Hamilton's family filed a $100 million wrongful death lawsuit against the federal government and accused Biden's Department of Homeland Security of, quote, operational negligence.
	God, I'd love to get them on the show.
	But for the mainstream media, the whores, the prostitutes that work for the White House and for the DNC, this kind of stuff, it's just a laughing matter.
	She wasn't murdered, but a 13-year-old girl was raped in New York.
	And what's Joy Reid's response?
	And Democrat Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal?
	They're laughing about the chyrons, the lower thirds, on conservative cable news.
	Just listen to these people.
	Cut to.
	Fear mongering?
	Fear mongering?
	that people have these sort of thinking, this sort of thinking. Here's the three cable networks
	reporting on this. Our banner said, soon Biden announces legal protections for undocumented
	spouses. The Citizen CNN's banner said, Biden announces new protections for some undocumented
	spouses. Here was Fox's banner, migrant arrested for raping 13 year old. Yes. And so I think that's
	part of the problem. Exactly. Fear mongering. Fear mongering.
	Fear mongering. Really?
	Was she raped or was she not, Joy Reid?
	Was that 13-year-old girl sexually assaulted by an illegal immigrant?
	Was that mother of five in Maryland raped and then murdered by another illegal?
	And was that autistic 17-year-old raped and then killed in the same county in Maryland by an MS-13 gang member?
	This is when you realize they literally have no soul.
	Women, autistic girls, raped, murdered, 13-year-old children, raped, and your discussion is, what, fear-mongering?
	On the lower third, Chiron banners of Fox News.
	Go to hell, Joy Reid.
	You disgust every decent person in America.
	We need President Trump back.
	Are you on his team?
	Are you America first?
	Do you want to seal the border?
	If you do, stand with him.
	Show the world.
	Get your America First t-shirt, your yard sign, your mugs at SebGorkerStore.com, but most important of all, support him directly at DonaldJTrump.com.
	This cannot be allowed to continue.
	It's up to you, dear friend.
	DonaldJTrump.com Keep the mics on.
	Have you got an image of Charlie's book?
	Alright.
	I can't hear you.
	I don't have sound.
	Testing, you got me?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Have you got an image of his book?
	Yes, I do.
	Okay.
	Can you keep the mics on?
	Give me one.
	Outline one.
	Hey, David, you've got some advice for President Trump?
	Yes, I do, Mr. G. All we need to do, and I just come from a U.S.
	military veteran, we need to just talk about the economy, how bad it is, how bad our military's got, how bad the border is.
	Don't worry about Biden, what he says, that he can't walk off the stage.
	We need to worry about the basics of what's going on with the country, not his decline.
	We all know that.
	Worry about the economy, worry about how bad our military... So I don't understand.
	Why shouldn't we talk about it?
	It's a threat to America.
	Yes, but we all know that.
	No, no, no.
	Some people are trying to deny it.
	The mainstream media is denying it.
	They're saying they're cheap fakes.
	Well, the mainstream media doesn't understand what me and you know, sir, because they don't want to see that.
	We do see that.
	So if they won't talk about it, shouldn't it be more important that we do?
	Yes, but our border, what you were talking about... I understand, but explain to me why President Trump shouldn't be talking about the fact that Biden is a threat because he's senile.
	Why should he not discuss that?
	Because the mainstream media is not going to allow that to be said.
	Well, that's why he should talk about it.
	That's the whole point.
	I still don't understand.
	If they won't talk about it, he should.
	But yeah, but our border is trash.
	Are you listening to me?
	Sir, I am.
	So, I'm going to say it one more time.
	If they're not talking about it, President Trump should talk about it.
	Why do you disagree with that?
	Your great show is doing a great job.
	Then tell me why he shouldn't talk about it.
	Because him, as one of the greatest presidents in my lifetime, and I'm 57 years old, this needs to be focused on the main issue.
	You're not answering my question.
	I'll try one last time.
	Why should he not talk about that as well?
	Because he needs... He can talk about it, but let the other things be... You're not answering my question.
	I tried four times.
	Okay.
	Thank you, buddy.
	God bless.
	One minute.
	He's on the line.
	Mic's on.
	All right, Charlie.
	Two segments.
	Let's sell some books and save America.
	Oh, we don't have any audio.
	No audio from... We've got no audio.
	Charlie?
	You know, I'm good.
	I fixed it.
	Can you tell that it's book launch week, based on my shot?
	I saw that yesterday.
	I thought, look, I think he might be selling a book.
	How was your event last week?
	It was spectacular, praise God.
	Good, good.
	I feel like a gooseberry.
	I never get asked anymore.
	You need to get me back on the distro.
	We got to get you back on the dance card, for sure.
	Right.
	Absolutely.
	Alright, two segments.
	Let's talk about the book and then let's talk about what you're doing with 20 points of action
	Absolutely. Gorka. Did I see the Gorka man?
	Yes, stand up Gorka, quick, get up!
	How good, how good is he, Sebastian?
	Seb, they call him Seb, I call him Sebastian.
	America first.
	You can call me whatever you want, sir.
	That's the president with one of our favorite liners.
	Gorka man, Seb, Sebastian, Dr. G, hey you with the funny accent, all of it works.
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	All right!
	He's been far too much of a stranger for far too long, but it's understandable.
	He's saving the Republic one event and One book at a time.
	Could it be the one and only Turning Point USA founder and president, my colleague at Salem, Charlie Kirk?
	Greetings, my friend.
	Dr. Gorka, great to be here.
	I was joking around, you know, everyone on the radio driving right now, they can't see.
	Can you tell it's book week here on the Charlie Kirk Show?
	It's tough, you know, I'm not one for subtlety.
	For those of you who aren't watching us on the Salem News Channel, I've got one copy of my wife's book behind me, my wife's new book, Next Gen Marxism.
	Can we frame that so you can actually see it?
	Okay.
	And then my first book that got me into the White House, Defeating Jihad, I don't even have my other two books out here.
	I've got to step up my game.
	Charlie's got like a hundred copies of his new book behind him, Right-Wing Revolution, because, you know, this is how he built what he built.
	Charlie Kirk, Right-Wing Revolution, How to Beat the Woke and Save the West.
	All right, I've got so many questions to ask you, especially about what Turning Point Action's doing, the whole college scam thing.
	I've read a sample chapter of your new book about what is woke.
	Let's dive into that for a second.
	Woke was meant to be like a cool thing, a good thing that the left said.
	I'm awake now.
	I know the reality about social injustice and what have you.
	It's kind of been flipped, the way President Trump flipped the phrase fake news.
	So, in a nutshell, tell us what woke is today and where it is.
	Are we winning?
	Are we losing?
	Is it 50-50?
	What's your analysis, Charlie?
	Yeah, it's a great question.
	So we give a very simple definition of woke.
	Some people stumble over themselves when they're asked the question, what is woke?
	Here it is.
	The woke complain until they control.
	They complain about an injustice until they control an institution.
	It is a means to control society, a means to control the FBI, a means to control what they did not build.
	And that is critical.
	They do not build.
	And that is why when Elon Musk calls them a virus, it is a perfect term.
	They operate like a bacterial infection or a virus.
	They take over the host and they're very good at it.
	They're not good at running it because all they do is destroy it, similar to a virus or a bacterial So to give a more philosophical answer, and we don't have to spend too much time on this, in the book we describe it as a blend of three ideologies, really four, but it's three.
	It's a blend of nihilism, post-modernism, and deconstructionism, with a little taste, if you will, of Marxism.
	And Marxism is an important component, but it doesn't tell the entire picture.
	It is nihilistic because they believe that there's no purpose for existence, It is post-modern, because they are trying to usher us into a post-truth era.
	And it is deconstruction, because they believe anything that would once exist, that society or civilization was built upon, must be relentlessly challenged and deconstructed to its core.
	For example, is the Bible really God's Word?
	Did God really say that?
	This is exactly what the serpent did in the Garden of Eden to Eve.
	And yes, I do connect, by the way, the forces of the demonic to the woke.
	I'm unafraid to do that.
	So anyway, that is what the woke is.
	You asked a question, are we winning?
	Let me just embroider that question with, you said they never build, they only take over.
	Does that mean that sooner or later we have to win?
	Because if they can't build, then sooner or later, then the good guys who can build will win.
	Or do we have to be more aggressive?
	No, by no means does that mean we're going to win.
	Because eventually they could take over everything.
	And look at North Korea.
	Eventually you can get an entire society where there's no production, no private property rights, and it's just basically an open air concentration camp and graveyard.
	So the woke ideology is not anything new.
	It is a multi-thousand year belief system that infects healthy hosts.
	Now, here's the key though.
	If someone calls himself woke, a vast majority of Americans believe that to be a negative thing.
	Number two, we are starting to fight back against it and we're starting to see the introductory stages.
	The argument I make in the book though, Dr. Gorka, is we have not been radical enough, we have not been revolutionary enough in our counter-revolution.
	I'm very careful in trying to argue for a revolution.
	I know what that means.
	that comes with serious heaviness and implications.
	French Revolution, Russian Revolution, Chinese Revolution, but don't forget the American Revolution.
	The American Revolution, which founded this country, which is a return back to classical truth,
	a return back to the belief of ethical monotheism, a return back to the promises
	of the Declaration of Independence.
	And so the woke, if you will, again, I don't love the term, but it's a good cutesy term in the sense
	where people know what it is, because if it doesn't make any sense,
	it kind of gets fits under the woke because it goes into those elemental untruths of society.
	Men can give birth, borders don't matter.
	James Lindsay, one of the best, dear friend of mine.
	He's the best.
	And we use some of the stuff in the book.
	So I didn't want to replicate that or duplicate it, but I felt it was necessary to at least mention a little bit.
	However, 90% of the book is about what I've done the last 12 years.
	who they are. There's been plenty of literature done on that. James Lindsay,
	one of the best, dear friend of mine, he's the best. And we use some of the
	stuff in the book. So I didn't want to replicate that or duplicate it, but I
	felt it was necessary to at least mention it a little bit.
	However, 90% of the book is about what I've done the last 12 years. You
	know this, Dr. Gorka.
	Action, action, action.
	We'll talk about that in a second, but let me just, you know, give you my tuppence worth.
	So, it is, you know, ballsy to put that word revolution on the title of your book, but you appreciate clearly, you know, the line from Os Guinness and many others, that the difference with our revolution in 1776 is it wasn't a real revolution, it was a restoration.
	It was a return to the founding principles of Judeo-Christian civilization.
	The other revolutions, the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, was a destruction of everything that worked before.
	The book, you've got to get it.
	It is out now.
	We will continue the discussion.
	Just go to 45books.com.
	It's Charlie Kirk's right-wing revolution, How to Beat the Woke and Save the West.
	Beyond that, I'd like you to support Charlie.
	Follow him on Twitter at CharlieKirk11.
	And along with PragerU, seriously, one of the most important organizations in the nation fighting back, clawing back the republic as it should be, is Turning Point USA.
	So, if you want to support something good, instead of giving money to your woke alma mater, go to TPUSA.com.
	That's TPUSA.com.
	The book is at 45books.com.
	We will continue in a moment.
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	We'll be back with Charlie Kirk after these messages.
	Do not touch that dial.
	You mentioned the book, but because of everything that's happening in the next few months, can
	we talk about Turning Point Action and what you're doing across the nation?
	Yeah, no, absolutely.
	No, no, you did great with the book.
	That's fine.
	And we'll just plug it one more time.
	But yes, the ballot chase and the voter reg stuff, let's get into that.
	Super important.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	And thank you.
	Cliff Malone was great.
	Isn't he terrific?
	Yeah, I saw a thing on Newsmax with you and Buzzkirk and Barris.
	That was a good interview.
	Yeah, I love the data that Barris gets.
	It's so good.
	And also, Buzzkirk does some polling as well.
	Yeah, it's good stuff.
	So what do you think of these reports?
	Are we really, you know, are these states becoming toss-up states or not?
	I think it's a huge distraction.
	It does us no good.
	You don't get extra points.
	Here's the analogy that I give.
	It doesn't matter if you win the Super Bowl by 30 points or by a last-minute field goal.
	I think it's good in the sense where it gets It gets the bad guys to spend money to defend turf.
	I know they've dispatched a bunch of Democrat staffers to Minnesota.
	I know that.
	But let's not take the eye off the ball.
	We need to win Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, one of those three, and run up the score in Arizona, Georgia.
	The key really needs to be let's run up All right.
	in Arizona, Georgia early on. So Democrats basically disengaged by those two states by September. But
	Arizona is a lot tighter than I think people will realize.
	I mean, we're on the ground here.
	We're working our tail off. But the good news is the voter reg numbers are really good here,
	like really good. All right. In that case, um...
	Yes.
	What was I gonna say?
	Oh, come in with 11 and I'll tee that up.
	Come in with that, then I'll do my pillow, then I'll go straight back to Charlie.
	Come with 11, that'd be alright.
	Yep.
	And I still need a title for the monologue and for uh...
	For the monologue, um...
	Joe... Joe Vittoria as well.
	The left...
	Um...
	Uh...
	80 seconds.
	Uh, um...
	Girls being raped, question mark.
	Droidery doesn't care.
	And then for Joan Victoria, Trump must win.
	Okay.
	What's the story that Bill O'Saley wants to talk about, Jeff?
	Did you see that in the text?
	It said Newsom's emails.
	Oh, Newsom's emails.
	Can you find me something about that?
	There's some scandal about his emails.
	Thank you.
	30 seconds.
	Yep.
	I'll be back, brother.
	I'm coming.
	A Alito struck me almost immediately upon sitting down to talk with him as a radical, as a fanatic about his views of culture and the role of religion in our society and his religion, not maybe yours or mine, Marx, but his religion.
	And I found him scary and I said so on the floor of the Senate when I voted against him.
	My religion?
	Hillary Clinton lecturing us about my religion?
	Uh, yeah, right.
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	I think we know who you worship.
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	We are back with my Salem colleague, the author of the brand new book, Right Wing Revolution, How to Beat the Woke and Save the West, Charlie Kirk.
	Charlie, I only played that clip because I said to Jeff, my producer, What?
	Hillary's on whose podcast?
	Mark Elias?
	So Mark Elias, as far as I am concerned, is the architect of the theft of the 2020 election.
	You have turning point action that gets engaged with making sure we have a secure election.
	I asked you a dumb question in the break.
	You slapped me down.
	I said, do we have toss-up states?
	Is Virginia, Pennsylvania?
	And you said, we don't care about that.
	We have just got to push, push, push everywhere.
	What?
	Yeah, Pennsylvania we care about.
	Again, I think trend line, it's interesting that Virginia and Minnesota might fall.
	Make Democrats spend money there.
	So let me ask you the only question that matters.
	In comparison to 2020, are they on the back foot without COVID?
	I mean, we have to play, we have to, as somebody said to me from the Green Berets, we have to behave as if we're the third monkey going up the ramp to Noah's Ark, right?
	We have to, as if they're winning, we have to just push, push, push.
	Where are you in terms of diagnosing how bad it is this year by comparison to when Mark Elias deployed what he deployed in 2020?
	Give us an update.
	Yeah, so I mean, I'll just give you the odds.
	We have a 50-50 chance of winning, and there are things that are definitely in the Democrats' favor, and there are things that are definitely in our favor.
	Some of Joe Biden's poll numbers are abysmal, and those are legitimately bad.
	Whether they poll him or not, I'm not so sure.
	That's a lot easier said than done.
	But Donald Trump needs to camp out in western Pennsylvania, southern Michigan.
	He had a great rally in Wisconsin.
	That's exactly where he needs to be, and I want to Compliment the campaign team.
	I was very critical of the RNC prior with Rana.
	They are now running a wonderful ship.
	James Blair, Susie Wiles, they're doing a great job.
	Think about where the president spent the last 72 hours.
	Detroit, Michigan, Racine, Wisconsin.
	Boom.
	Home run.
	Strike zone.
	You see a direct correlation with voter registration numbers, with volunteers when he visits a city.
	So what we're doing at Turning Point Action is additive.
	We are registering low-propensity voters voters in Arizona, Wisconsin in particular,
	Arizona where I am right now, it's my home, is needs to course correct.
	And we're doing everything we possibly can to do that.
	Again, I give us a 50, 50 shot across the board on that.
	The voter registration numbers are interesting.
	And let me just brag on Arizona and turning point action for a second here, Dr. Gorka.
	In 2020, and this is why this is one of the things going in our favor.
	When Mark Elias was orchestrating all that nonsense, Democrats in Arizona enjoyed, Republicans enjoyed,
	I'm sorry, 110,000 more registered Republicans than Democrats in the state of Arizona.
	In 2024, that is now 240,000.
	We have increased net new We've only got 60 seconds left.
	Let me cut to the chase.
	You're doing what you're doing with action.
	We've got the likes of Scott Pressler.
	We've got Lara doing her thing.
	You're talking to about three and a half million people right now.
	What role do they play?
	Do they volunteer with Turning Point Action?
	Let me cut to the chase. You're doing what you're doing with action. We've got the likes of Scott Pressler
	We got Lara doing her thing. You're talking to about three and a half million people right now
	What role do they play? Do they volunteer with Turning Point Action? What do they do?
	Yeah, it's all harmonious harmonic all Our number one focus at Turning Point Action, though, like a sniper rifle, is getting low-propensity voters that otherwise would not vote to vote in voting month.
	That's it.
	To go engage securely in voting month.
	Not voting on election day, Now I'm not talking about your audience.
	I'm talking about the people that otherwise would not be voting.
	These are the plumbers, electricians, the people that are low props.
	If we get the lower propensity voters out to vote, we will win in November.
	Let me say that again.
	For the first time in our lifetime, the lower propensity voters favor Republicans, not Democrats.
	It is a turnout game.
	We turn out new voters.
	Donald Trump is the next president.
	Everybody go register voters.
	You can go to tpaction.com slash vote to become a force multiplier.
	TP Action.
	dot what was that dot com slash vote.
	Okay.
	TP action dot com slash vote.
	Love it.
	Where you can register anyone to vote in real time.
	Become a force multiplier.
	Our democracy is at stake.
	Dr.
	Can you, can you tell this guy didn't go to college?
	He can actually say he can use the words nihilism, post-modernism and
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	Because that's what we did when we were in the White House, right, Jeff?
	We had massive portraits of President Trump and visiting dignitaries, you know, all over the Lincoln Memorial, right?
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	Have you seen how fat he's begun?
	I did notice that.
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	Do you think they're allowed like, you know, for-profit diet systems in North Korea?
	Well for him, he gets to do whatever he wants.
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	He is a good guy behind enemy lines in California.
	He's a state rep.
	He's just always shaking the tree.
	I think one of his favorite phrases is, smoke him out!
	And he had a absolutely viral tweet recently that I want to discuss before we get to his latest news regarding Governor Newsom.
	Bill Asale, are you there?
	I'm here, yes.
	So I'm looking at your latest tweet you sent me, which has got 958,000 views.
	You're like this close to a million for one tweet.
	I want to talk about this given the The news out of Maryland, the news out of New York, the 13-year-old that was raped by an illegal.
	What was this bill that you were trying to see to fruition concerning protection of children, Assemblyman?
	Yeah, it's really simple.
	Basically, the bill is to reverse California's sanctuary state as it applies to one class of criminals, people that commit sex acts against minors.
	California has full sanctuary state for any criminal.
	Murder, rape, it doesn't matter.
	They refuse to deport you out of the state.
	So I said, how about this?
	Can we agree that pedophiles, child rapists should not get protection in the state of California?
	And apparently the answer from the Democrat party is no.
	We will continue to protect them.
	So that was my bill.
	It was to just reverse sanctuary state for pedophiles.
	And they killed it.
	They voted it down.
	I'm curious.
	Did any Democrat tell you why they want to protect pedophiles and child rapists?
	No.
	They gaslight.
	They say, well, it's a procedural vote.
	Your bill didn't get a hearing in committee.
	And I said, yeah, it didn't get a hearing because you didn't schedule one.
	So they hide behind procedure.
	But anytime they want to pass something, of course, they suspend the rules, they get it through.
	It's not about procedures, it's about substance.
	It was very clear.
	If you voted yes on my motion, you said you wanted to reverse sanctuary state for pedophiles.
	If you vote no, you support pedophiles.
	So we did take that messaging and we took it to a bunch of Dems that are vulnerable and we blasted it in their district that they voted to protect pedophiles.
	And for that, the Democrats lost their mind and they kicked me off my committees, which is fine.
	I don't care.
	God bless you.
	He's the Assemblyman for the 63rd District in California.
	Follow Bill at Bill Asayli on Twitter.
	That's E-S-S-A-Y-L-I, Asayli4Assembly.com.
	Alright, the reason we've got you on today is, what's this about, you know, gruesome news from Nancy's nephew and his emails, Bill?
	Yeah, so let me walk you through it because if you're not from California, you might not have the full background.
	But about 10 years ago, George Soros sponsored this ballot initiative called Prop 47.
	And what it did is it basically decriminalized theft, drug use, All the low-level offenses that you just see rampant now in California.
	People go in, they steal every day.
	You have the homeless that are self-medicating on all kinds of drugs and there's nothing you can do about it.
	You can't get them into treatment or rehab.
	And so we finally have a ballot initiative that was written by our law enforcement community to reverse this terrible law, this Prop 47.
	So it's going to go to the voters this November.
	The Democrats and the governor are freaking out because it's basically an indictment on their policies that they're being reversed by the public.
	So what they're saying is you don't need to vote for this ballot initiative because we're going to pass some public safety bills here in the legislature.
	But if you pass your ballot initiative, we have a clause, we're calling it a poison pill, they're putting in their bills.
	that say if the ballot initiative passes, then all of our public safety laws that we
	passed will be reversed.
	So what they're going to do, this is how it works in California, they're going to write
	a ballot title and summary that says if you vote for this law enforcement initiative in
	November, you're voting to reverse public safety laws.
	This is what they're going to do.
	But the voters are going to see right through it.
	Incredible.
	All right.
	We've only got a minute and a half left.
	Assemblyman Asale, you're in California.
	We're going to have our mutual friend Jan Horn on the show in the next hour.
	Given the last three and a half years and what we've seen, What is the issue?
	Is there one issue that more than another is red-pilling Democrats or independents?
	Is it the economy?
	Is it the illegals?
	Is it the protecting pedophiles?
	Are you seeing something that is really like the hot-button issue?
	You know, I think it's quality of life is the best way to say it.
	It's quality of life.
	It's affordability.
	It's a crisis affordability.
	You can't afford rent, food, gas, electricity prices.
	It's the crime, the theft.
	We're all treated like criminals now.
	You go into Walmart, everything's locked up.
	You gotta like raise your hand and ask for permission to buy something.
	There's no good jobs.
	Job wages aren't going up.
	So I just say quality of life is totally going down.
	People are miserable.
	And there's only one party to blame.
	It's the Democrat Party, who've been in charge for over the last 10, 15 years.
	So they have no one to blame but themselves.
	And so just ask yourself, if your life isn't better than it was before, why would you continue to vote for these people?
	Quality of life, I would say that, Sebastian.
	Public safety.
	And then for me, always, this number one issue right now is parental rights.
	The Democrat Party wants to erode and destroy your relationship with your kids.
	They want to raise your children, and we can't have the government doing that.
	Yeah, this is a very smart way to think about areas that aren't distinctly Republican, that these issues are not party political.
	Quality of life and parental choice, these are not party political issues.
	These are issues that every American should care about.
	That's why he's fighting the good fight and smoking out the crazies in California's 63rd district.
	Follow Assemblyman Bill Asale at Bill Asale.
	That's E-S-S-A-Y-L-I and Asalee4Assembly.com.
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	Greetings, Nancy.
	Greetings, Dr. G. You're discussing very important topics, but I wanted to wish you a happy Juneteenth.
	And in celebration, I'm wondering if from now on, or maybe on a t-shirt, The Democrat Party can be called the Democrat Plantation.
	Well, I have used that phrase many, many times on this show, the Democrats' new political plantation, Nancy.
	They want to keep all of us, Dr. G, not just my black brothers and sisters down on the planet as slaves.
	All of us.
	Yeah.
	What do you think of this new federal holiday?
	I mean, it's nice for me and Jeff and everybody else because there's no cars on the roads here in the swamp.
	But do you think most Americans even understand what what day it is today?
	Well, you know, Dr. G, we have Kwanzaa.
	We have Martin Luther King Day.
	We have Black History Month.
	And as far as I can determine, there will never be enough holidays to satisfy some people.
	Do you know the story about the man who created Kwanzaa Nancy?
	Vaguely, vaguely.
	Yeah, a convicted rapist.
	Delightful.
	Like George Floyd, the hero.
	Yes, the man who held up a pregnant woman and stuck a loaded .357 Magnum at her belly.
	That is the hero of the left.
	Thank you, Nancy, for your rather dry, your wittily, wittily dry call today on Juneteenth.
	I hadn't even thought to mention it.
	Another absurd, absurd what?
	Rewriting of history, because remember who the KKK were created by.
	All the Jim Crow laws.
	It's all Democrats.
	They do miss having their slaves, don't they?
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	For those listening on the radio, we just gave you a pretty bloody heavy hint.
	For those on Rumble, one of you already guessed it.
	I'm getting all kinds of disparaging comments on my neckwear today, because I'm wearing the skinniest of skinniest ties.
	But I think it's rather amazing, because my daughter gave it to me.
	And it is also associated with one of the greatest TV shows known to man, which is still broadcasting in a very woke, crappy form, but was superb, especially when I was a kid.
	And its first episode aired on the day JFK was shot.
	No TV show has been running since 1963 today.
	And I'd like, for those who know what this tie is representing, We've already had somebody on Rumble.
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	She knows what it is and it's not... What did you say, Alex?
	What did you say this time?
	You thought the TV show is what?
	Well, you said PBS, so I said Mr. Rogers.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	This is a running, this is a running, running problem between me and Katie.
	I think Mr. Rogers is a little bit creepy.
	She loves Mr. Rogers.
	Jennifer Horne!
	Mr. Rogers is not associated with my tie.
	Do you like him or is he creepy?
	I'm going to tell you right now that you're both right.
	I do like him and he is a little creepy, so you don't even have to argue.
	I mean, he used to do like his little change of clothes every day before he got started.
	Like, who does that?
	Yeah, the cardigan and then untying his shoes and putting on his slippers.
	It's just, you know what my problem?
	I'm a, I'm a, I'm a SOB publicly.
	Um, but he's just too nice.
	You know, and he really was.
	Did you ever watch the documentary on him?
	I did, I did.
	I mean, he was really incredibly great.
	I know.
	I mean, he was huge.
	I don't believe any of it.
	There's nothing bad about him.
	I think it's all a put-on.
	I gotta ask, the most cynical man in the world, Jeff, are you a fan of Mr. Rogers, or do you think it's a fake?
	I'm not that interested in it.
	I don't remember it.
	Do you even know who he is?
	Yeah, I remember.
	I guess I watched him when I was little, but I don't remember.
	Which is very weird, because I have a very good memory.
	So you just don't care, right?
	One of the biggest icons of TV history.
	I think when I watched as a kid, it didn't really do much for me.
	I didn't like it.
	I think it was overhyped.
	Well, there you go.
	The judge has spoken.
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	Can you believe, forget about that debate next week with Slow Joe and my former boss, we're like a week away from our Alaska cruise.
	Is that possible?
	I am so excited about this.
	I can't believe it.
	I was looking at my calendar.
	I'm like, gosh, I got to get my schedule together for next week.
	And Friday, I'm going to be in the air.
	Saturday, we're going to be on the boat.
	I mean, we're going to have an amazing time.
	And I've already had people calling my radio show saying, can't wait to see it.
	We have 400 people coming with us to Alaska.
	And I'm super excited to kind of see it through your eyes, because you've never cruised or seen Alaska.
	So I can't wait to see what you think of And I've never done karaoke, and I think I may have to do... We're doing it.
	I think on this ship, there may be a karaoke bar.
	What do you think the likelihood of that is?
	Oh no, I've already looked.
	Because, you know, I had to make sure I could figure out what exactly our activities would be.
	There is a karaoke bar.
	And actually, it's better than a karaoke bar.
	Kind of.
	It's a guy who does the piano, and you sing along with the piano.
	Ooh.
	Wow.
	What do you think?
	You like that?
	That's pretty fancy, huh?
	Well, that's funny, because I was actually suggesting that to Joe Piscopo, because he is actually an amazing singer.
	And he talked about doing, you know, a piano kind of Frank Sinatra thing.
	But you're saying they're actually going to have an accompanist?
	Yeah, no, it's a piano bar, I think, and they do karaoke with the piano.
	At least that's what it looks like on the website, so I guess we'll have to see.
	Alright, so my favorites are, of course, Billy Joel, Queen, Hall & Oates, you know, British 80s pop.
	Who do you sing karaoke to, Jen?
	You're gonna laugh.
	Alright, but it's, you know what, it's true.
	So I can do Pat Benatar pretty well.
	Whoa!
	I love Pat Benatar!
	I can do that.
	That's probably what I'll have to do because my go-to is... What about Joan Jett?
	I'm a big Joan Jett fan.
	I can do that too, absolutely.
	Yeah, those two I'm pretty good at.
	But the... But do you have leather miniskirts?
	Maybe.
	Maybe I'm going to bust those out for the crews.
	You never know.
	I saw Joan Jett play in a tiny, sweat-filled venue in London when I was a kid.
	I was like 10 feet away from her.
	It was mind-bending.
	Oh, I bet she was amazing.
	And her voice.
	Holy smokes.
	I could never live up to that.
	She was amazing.
	But, you know, I'll do my karaoke version.
	Pat Benatar, Joan Jett, who else?
	Come on, come on, come on.
	This is the one that I, this is my go-to.
	It's Salt-N-Pepa.
	Oh, yes!
	Love a bit of Salt-N-Pepa.
	Come on, really?
	Yes!
	I thought you were gonna make fun of me for sure on that one.
	No!
	Come on, I grew up on that stuff.
	Totally.
	I know, me too.
	I'm pretty good.
	In fact, one of our colleagues at Salem Radio said, so what kind of music would you like to have around?
	And I said, look, I have terrible taste in music.
	I like 80s and 90s pop, I like 90s hip-hop, and I like country music.
	So, like, you know, you can choose for me if you like.
	But real country music or like the Luke Bryan pap country music?
	Both.
	Both actually.
	I like the real deal and I like some of the new stuff too.
	Interesting, interesting.
	Do you like country music, Jeff?
	Are you a big country music fan?
	Yes, that is pretty much the only music I listen to.
	See, this is why I can't understand this man.
	I cannot understand this man, alright?
	He's just so unreadable.
	He doesn't like any movie made before he was born.
	He won't watch science fiction, but he's into country music.
	What's going on there, Jen?
	I like that, actually.
	I think that's on brand with Jeff.
	You know, he's kind of a no-nonsense kind of guy.
	Because you're from where?
	If you had to say where you're from, Jeff, what would you say?
	New Jersey?
	Philly?
	Where would you say you're from?
	Yeah, but that doesn't matter.
	Country became popular then in the 90s.
	But, Jen, you can't be from New Jersey and it's a country.
	Back me up, Jen.
	No one watches science fiction, though.
	That's what you don't get.
	I'm serious.
	It's a weird genre.
	Have you heard of this little movie?
	Just a little movie called Star Wars, Jeff?
	No one from the age of 30 to 43 watched science fiction.
	When we grew up, that was not a thing.
	That's very specific, 30 to 43.
	My generation.
	Nobody.
	Nobody watched Star Wars, Jen.
	Nobody.
	Nobody.
	I do have to take issue with that.
	I think a lot of people watched Star Wars.
	I think a lot of people watched Star Trek.
	I don't know.
	I think, look, there was Alien, and there was all kinds of sci-fi movies that were popular.
	I don't know about that.
	You know, I think sometimes people think sci-fi is just too dorky to admit that they like it, but I think everybody kind of likes sci-fi a little bit.
	And I just think half of his life is just winding me up.
	I mean, have you ever had a producer that just exists to wind up the host?
	I've had a few, actually.
	Right?
	They just want to get you going.
	It's a risk of the business, right?
	It is.
	It actually keeps you better.
	It keeps you on your toes.
	All right.
	Let's start some work.
	We just spent nine minutes on karaoke.
	And Mr. Rogers.
	Don't forget that.
	That was very important.
	And that relates to Biden.
	He's in the land of make-believe.
	Let's talk about it.
	Let's play the B-roll in the background.
	I got to ask this question in the last two minutes we have.
	Whether it's the Normandy beaches, whether it's the stage in LA, whether it's the Juneteenth, I'm just reveling in the White House seeing this video does not exist.
	You are not seeing what you are seeing.
	I feel naive.
	I feel like I've walked into a trap because I think there's no way around this.
	They've bust through the gaslighting.
	Everybody's laughing at them.
	There's no way they can run him.
	Am I crazy, Jen?
	Oh, I just feel so sorry for you.
	You just don't know a cheap fake when you see it.
	First of all, I love that term cheap fake and it is so it's just I actually think it is so disrespectful to the American people.
	We know what we're seeing, right?
	You can't hide it.
	And they have gas lit us all the way through when it comes to like the real issues like the border being secure and inflation not being a problem.
	We all know that that's a lie and so now things have gotten so bad that they're gonna stand up in front of people and just try to say no we're not really seeing what clearly we are seeing and the worst thing is the thing that's even more despicable is that they have some mainstream media outlets following them along now marking videos as fake.
	I mean So I've got to cut to the chase.
	I don't know if he's going to show up in Atlanta next week, but are they going to get rid of him before the election?
	You know what?
	I think about it.
	I think it's going to be very hard to get rid of him because I think he and Jill want to stay.
	But the stories have been out that they're going to try to pressure him out and I think it's going to depend on how he plays it.
	And I've even heard some rumors.
	My co-host Grant Stinchfield was telling me today he had heard that CNN's going to go hard on Joe to try to see if he can really withstand it.
	Now, I would love to see it, but I also really want Joe to stay in the race.
	You know what?
	I like Weekend at Bernie's.
	I'd like to continue it into November.
	Let's just let him lose the old-fashioned way.
	We don't want somebody who can say, oh, the last four years, nothing to do with me.
	We do not want that.
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	We'll be back talking about karaoke or something else.
	I don't know, with Jen in a moment.
	I can't remember what I had for breakfast, but I can remember every word of Salt-N-Pepa.
	Isn't that crazy?
	That's funny.
	That's our brains.
	There was a British version of Salt-N-Pepa who were really good as well.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Well, kind of equivalent.
	Two sisters, black sisters.
	Were they sisters?
	I think they were sisters.
	And they sang Respectable... What was that song?
	Who were they?
	Hang on a second.
	Song... Respectable... Mel and Kim.
	Mel and Kim!
	Yes, dude!
	Wow, very good pull.
	Did you Google that?
	All right, let's play a little bit of Mel and Kim.
	No, I've learned his Spotify library.
	Oh, yeah, because you've got access to it.
	Look at this guy.
	He's inside my machine.
	He's an insider.
	Respectable.
	Come on.
	You're a hacker in a movie.
	I'm in.
	Respectable.
	Gotta hear that one.
	Here we go.
	I'm Melvin Kim.
	It's like Jeff's ringtone.
	I don't love it.
	Jeff's disappeared in a cloud of smoke.
	Ha ha ha!
	I need to get this clip right.
	This is pretty good.
	This is very on brand.
	80s and 90s.
	I like it.
	They were huge.
	Mel and Kim.
	Especially because one of the sisters was well endowed and never wore a bra.
	So when she danced there was a lot of stuff for the young boys to watch.
	Shimmying.
	Yes.
	Shimmying.
	Mel and Kim.
	Respectable.
	And sadly, she died of cancer very young.
	Can you come in with Respectable?
	Hey, I went to Steve Hilton's fundraiser last night.
	Oh, mics are hot, by the way.
	Oh, that's okay.
	Diane Cannon was there.
	Really?
	Yeah, and Camille Grammer from, you know, Kelsey Grammer's wife.
	But Cannon's not a conservative, is she?
	I think she is actually, or at least she is now.
	Wow.
	I don't think he's got a snowballs chance.
	Well, I mean, California's always rough, but gotta start working now, that's for sure.
	Hmm?
	80 seconds.
	Well, I know there's some stories Jeff gave me about California.
	Peace.
	We're banning cell phones in the LA Unified.
	We're just having far too much fun.
	Far too much fun.
	Secret Service getting mugged and then the San Francisco mayor's debate.
	And we're banning cell phones in the LA Unified School District.
	Wow!
	That'll lead to some fights.
	Angel tree.
	Yeah.
	I don't need any audio.
	Okay.
	Just the, uh, Mel and Kim.
	Gotta love that.
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	All right, Jennifer Horne, we're having far too much fun.
	Can I annoy you and destroy your fun?
	Please.
	You know, I always let you destroy me.
	You build me up just to take me down and remind me about California and all the nuttiness in Washington, D.C.
	Well, I don't know if there's anybody nuttier than this or more treasonous than this.
	This is the woman who hung out with the Viet Cong during the Vietnam War.
	I don't know if she... I think she's Dorian Gray.
	She must be like 120.
	But she's clearly sold her soul to the devil.
	She just gave an interview.
	This is, of course, CNN and Jane, I love all commies, Fonda.
	Well, just one other thing.
	If the orange man wins next November, it's going to be much worse for Palestinians.
	I can say that.
	I don't know what the spitting on your hand and doing like a mini Hitler salute is, but if the orange man... Do they still use that phrase or is it just the demented ones that say orange man?
	How out of touch do you have to be to say, if the man who's currently defeating the incumbent wins, then it'll be bad for... Palestinians?
	Well, just think about how they suffered when Trump was in office the first time.
	I mean, it's just, it's so ridiculous because everything they say that's happening out there, this has all been created by Biden.
	Biden is the reason that we have this problem.
	Biden is the reason that Israel's been slow trying to take down the Palestinians and to take down Hamas.
	They were allowed to get empowered because Iran has been funded and has been able to ship money off to them to help them in their cause to wipe out the Jews.
	These are all Biden administration created problems.
	What I'm looking forward to, and Jane Fonda I think is totally deluded when it comes to this, is that President Trump, we actually had world peace when President Trump was in office.
	We didn't have wars.
	We didn't have people stepping out of line trying to wipe an entire group of people off the map.
	And that's because they knew there would be consequences.
	And they knew that Israel had an ally, a staunch ally in the United States.
	And I can't say that today because I don't know what is going on with Israel's relationship with the United States right now.
	It's pathetic.
	Yeah, Bibi Netanyahu spoke out publicly about Biden refusing to sell arms and as a result this administration cancelled the meeting with the Israeli government.
	So that will cause great attention.
	Let's play that B-roll of Jane Fonda.
	I think she is Dorian Gray.
	I think she has sold her soul to the devil.
	This woman... You think so?
	Yeah, she's 86 years old.
	I mean, I'm sorry, that's like... Plastic surgery is one thing, but I think... I mean, what's your theory?
	What's going on there?
	What's odd, and for those of you on the radio, so Jane Fonda, look, I don't like her politics, but she looks great.
	I mean, she's like a robot for an 86-year-old.
	I mean, it's just incredible how good she looks, and obviously, listen to how she speaks compared to 81-year-old Joe Biden.
	I mean, there's a huge difference here.
	That being said, for those of us on the radio, you've got a silver, icy-cold gray shirt, icy gray hair.
	Kind of these gray eyes peering out.
	So maybe she has just sort of become a robot or something.
	I don't know.
	Maybe she's she sold her soul at some point.
	But she does look incredibly good.
	It's just she's just it has always been.
	This is not new for her.
	She's always been misguided.
	She's always been off.
	Yeah.
	I just love the fact that whether it's Jane Fonda, whether it's Biden with Obama in L.A.
	at a fundraiser where the top tickets were $500,000 per person, or whether it's any of these events.
	President Trump is in Racine, right?
	He's in Cheeseland.
	He's in, you know, the Bronx.
	At the Black Church in Detroit.
	Yeah, in Detroit, as the host is saying, nobody ever comes to the hood.
	Thank you for literally, thanks for coming to the hood, Mr. President.
	Don't you find it fascinating that there's not one Democrat out there who says, you know what, we may want to preach to beyond the Hollywood set.
	They just cannot get out of their bubble, Jen.
	Well, I'm going to tell you right now, it is not going to be white elitist liberals that are going to decide the 2024 election.
	So I'm glad he's spending the time talking to Jane Fonda and George Clooney.
	Good.
	Do that.
	Spend your money.
	Win.
	You know, it's not even about money this time around.
	People know who Biden is.
	They know who Trump is.
	Yes, money is helpful in running an election, but it's not the only thing at this point.
	You know what will decide the election?
	Young people.
	Blue-collar workers, Latino voters, and black voters.
	And so, you know, while he's out there talking to elitists who can spend $500,000 on a ticket, Trump is out there winning votes.
	He's winning hearts by going to places Democrats won't go.
	But how stupid are they?
	They just dropped $50 million this week.
	$50 million on ads calling President Trump a felon.
	I mean, he's more popular since the verdict.
	Is it Republican agents inside the DNC saying, yes, spend 50 million on calling him a felon.
	That'll really work.
	I mean, how stupid are they?
	I mean, I love it, but how stupid are they?
	Money well spent, right?
	I mean, this is because, and the only reason they're still gripping to the felon nonsense that they created, by the way, is because they have nothing else.
	Can you tell me how long the commercial would be if Joe Biden said, let me tell you about my accomplishments over the last four years?
	You'd have crickets.
	They would just be chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp.
	You'd have nothing.
	There is nothing that they could talk about.
	So they might as well grip to what they can, I guess.
	He couldn't even say with honesty that I have successfully walked up the stairs of Air Force One.
	I mean, seriously, he couldn't even say he couldn't even say I successfully remembered the name of my cabinet member, Alejandro Mayorkas, yesterday as he was standing next to me.
	I couldn't even do that.
	Or I'm energized.
	Is it is it the caffeine or is it Jennifer Horne?
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	I know.
	There's not much of it.
	Salt-N-Pepa is pretty good.
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	Alright, well I will talk to you guys next week.
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	Not quite.
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	Did you make a buffer of that thing?
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	Okay.
	You can open them for a minute.
	Although we've got lots of cuts.
	I need titles as well.
	Or a title for Jen.
	Come in with five, that's funny.
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	Well that picture right there kind of tells it all with Chuck Schumer.
	He's been up here forever.
	He's trying to show people that hey he's just an An average guy, you know, that goes out and cooks and all that, you can tell he's never cooked in his life.
	You know, I've been up here almost four years, Benny.
	I've been in the Senate.
	There's only a hundred of us, right?
	I've never spoken a word to Chuck Schumer.
	Wow.
	He never acknowledged, you know, if you're a leader of some, I don't care if even the other side and you got people that come in, come up, Hey coach, glad you're here.
	You know, I know we don't agree on a lot of things.
	Maybe we can agree on something.
	I mean, this guy could care less.
	What's the worst thing about that photograph, Eric?
	About Chuck Schumer and the frozen beef burger patties?
	It's that there is a slice of cheese just slapped right onto one of the raw patties.
	There's actually something much worse than that.
	Oh no.
	I just realized something looking at that photograph.
	I've got the same grill.
	Jeff, what do I do now?
	Can I proceed in life knowing that I have the same grill as Chuck Schumer?
	Well, if you look at the photo, your grill probably isn't right next to your house, so it's not covered in smoke and silt, like as you can see that he has there.
	He needs to power wash it.
	Oh, dear.
	That's a frightening thought.
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	All right, so this is going to be a story, as long as we keep it alive, in the alternative media, in the non-legacy lying mainstream media.
	It is the murder of innocent Americans by illegals.
	It is the rape of a 13-year-old in New York, a man who was run down and captured by the citizens of that city.
	And Jim Acosta asked the man responsible, the individual, could you imagine Being the Secretary of Homeland Security, you're literally responsible, not only for preventing the next 9-11, but for keeping our borders secure.
	That is your job.
	And what did Alejandro Mayorkas have to say?
	Cut 12.
	I do want to ask you about the murder of this Maryland mother that has been in the news.
	It's gotten a lot of attention.
	She was killed last year.
	An undocumented immigrant was just arrested and her death last week.
	He's suspected of multiple crimes since he crossed the border illegally in early 2023.
	Jim, a criminal is responsible for the criminal act.
	The criminal who committed this heinous act Should be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law and forcefully so.
	That is my response.
	How is that criminal here, Mayorkas?
	Because you opened the borders.
	We've got the cut we played last week.
	You're also being interviewed by the mainstream media and somebody asks you about what you did when you came into office.
	And you literally say on camera, I can't tell you, I don't have enough time to recount to you the number of actions we took to undo the Trump border regime.
	Which means what, Alejandro?
	The fact that he is like one of the Peter Pan kids, came here from Cuba as a child, And then he just doesn't get it.
	He doesn't get it.
	That how it's meant to be done.
	And he says, I'm not responsible.
	The long list of things I did as Joe Biden's secretary to literally open the borders and allow in 8 million illegals that we know of that you can double with the God of Waste to at least 16 a million.
	How many mothers of five have to be murdered?
	How many 17-year-old autistic women have to be raped and killed?
	How many 13-year-old girls have to be sexually assaulted?
	For you to say, you know, we should close the borders.
	Well, it doesn't matter anymore, does it?
	Because we need to bring back the man who won because of this issue.
	The amazing irony of it all.
	If there's one issue that led to what?
	President Trump winning the first time.
	It's the border.
	What was his mantra?
	Build the wall.
	If there's one issue you should have run from as Democrats for the last four years, it's illegal immigration.
	Instead, you quadruple down.
	God bless you for being such an arrogant...
	Pieces of human excrement.
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	Uh, no.
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	You You
	You I'm infuriated.
	And our state is still mourning.
	I mean, this is a mother of five.
	Someone who had her life ahead of her, many celebrations with her family ahead of her, and her life was cut short.
	And when people think about the border crisis, and they think that this is only impacting a handful of states, you know, Hartford County, in our state, where this brutal murder happened, is 1,800 miles away from the border.
	And so when people think this is only impacting a few states, this is impacting every single one of us.
	This inaction, that we continue to see to get any form of sensible immigration policy done, is impacting all of us.
	Eric, isn't that the governor of Maryland?
	Isn't that Wes Moore?
	That is indeed the Democrat governor of West, of Maryland.
	A Democrat is saying that the open border is a problem?
	Every single day, only when it works its way all the way up here, when it works its way up to New York City or Maryland, then they finally say, okay, maybe this is a bit of a problem, guys.
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	Interesting.
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	Alright, messaging.
	The left's good at messaging, but what they message is all lies.
	We have the truth on our side.
	We're not that hot at messaging, with the odd exception like my former boss, President Trump.
	Another organization led by our next guest.
	They're rather good at it.
	It's the Job Creators Network and the president, the CEO, Alfredo Ortiz.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Thank you very much Seb.
	Glad to be back.
	So you have a knack at your team for buying space on rather prominent billboards and pulling no punches.
	Here's the latest story with a triple billboard, a rotating billboard linked to the website kickoutaoc.com with a photograph of that commie listing, you know, Look at the kinds of things that she's managed to do.
	It's a great list of accomplishments.
	Rising crime, illegal immigration, defunding the police, sky-high grocery prices, out-of-control energy costs.
	She's been a great, great representative for her constituents, hasn't she, Alfredo?
	Oh my gosh, I have to tell you, I mean, I still can't decide which is the worst for our country, Randy Weingarten, the head of the American Federation for Teachers, or AOC.
	But I think yesterday I decided it was AOC, so she got the punch.
	So talk to us about why you chose AOC, and what kind of response you've got to your brand new billboard so far.
	Have you annoyed all the right people, Alfredo?
	Oh, I am really annoyed.
	I have to tell you, within two minutes of the New York Post article going out, they had already responded on X, so I definitely annoyed them beautifully.
	But look, Seb, whenever I have an opportunity to potentially kick out of Congress a radical leftist socialist extremist, I'm going to take it.
	Right.
	And, you know, Martin Dolan is a Democrat, but that's OK, because he's actually a moderate Democrat.
	You know, he actually is interested in refunding the police, not defunding the police.
	He's interested in fixing the illegal immigration and the border issue.
	He's interested in addressing the crime issue.
	He's interested in really helping small businesses, which is really the thing that actually interested him most.
	And attract the most in supporting Martin Dolan.
	But look, AOC is horrible for our country.
	She's horrible for the economy.
	I mean, she just has to go.
	So talk to us about this other person or the race you're supporting, her challenger.
	Because people forget, if you look at her original election, she barely won.
	This is not a woman who is really supported in her constituency.
	So she might be in for a real fight, correct?
	Yes, exactly right.
	The first time when she actually went to the primary, the first time she ran, it was really, I would have to say it was basically a handful of votes.
	We're not talking tens of thousands of votes.
	So, you know, she barely got through that.
	And then on the last go around, you know, she's had, you know, a lot of popularity.
	But look, over the past couple of years, everything has fallen apart because of crime, the illegal immigration issue.
	And basically, she doesn't care.
	She's never in her office.
	She doesn't really, you know, spend any time with her constituents.
	If you go down to those areas, it looks like a third world country now.
	Yeah.
	And so look, I think people are fed up.
	I think there is an opportunity for change.
	Look, the reality here is, would I love a Republican to take that seat?
	Sure, I would, right?
	But it's a D plus 28 district, right?
	So the odds of a Republican taking that district are probably slim to none.
	So again, I'd much rather boot out a socialist and put in at least a moderate Democrat that I might actually have something in common with that I can talk to and maybe reach some kind of agreement.
	We're talking to the CEO of the JobCreators Network, Alfredo Ortiz.
	JobCreatorsNetwork.com or go to them, follow them at JobCreatorsUSA.
	We've got about a minute left.
	Alfredo, you represent the lifeblood of America.
	The medium, small-sized businesses that employ more than 60% of the workforce in America.
	You must hear horror stories every single day of companies that are just On the brink of collapse or struggling to survive under the Biden economic situation.
	How hard is it to hear those stories?
	I mean, it really is hard.
	I mean, I have to tell you, I sometimes get phone calls and these are, you know, adult mature people have been in business for a long time.
	And they start talking about their business.
	They start tearing up.
	They start, you know, like they start choking up because this has been their whole life.
	Right.
	And many times it's their whole savings.
	They've mortgaged everything to keep it going.
	And in many cases, they've mortgaged everything to make sure that their employees get paid.
	Right.
	And so it's just heartbreaking to see that this administration What's, in 10 seconds, what's the first thing you'd like to see happen in the first day of a new Trump administration?
	do it continues to pummel our small businesses and look enough is enough
	we've got to make a change and that's why I said let's at least start with AOC
	get her out of here. What's in 10 seconds what's the first thing you'd like to see
	happen in the first day of a new Trump administration if God willing we do our
	part and he wins?
	Drill, baby, drill.
	We got to make sure we reverse the energy crisis because that's where it all started, Seb, as you know.
	When Biden declared war on the domestic energy production, that was it.
	All hell broke loose.
	Very simple message.
	Drill, baby, drill!
	It is the lifeblood of all our economy.
	Please support.
	Check out the JobCreatorsNetwork.com and follow our friend at JobCreatorsUSA on Twitter, Alfredo Ortiz.
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	I'm Um, Jeff probably knows.
	He seems like they're trying to, like, groom him as, like, the moderate them.
	To run for president one day?
	Yeah.
	Oh boy.
	I can see it.
	He's very moderate, but I know he's not.
	But he just got elected.
	He's one of the new young and up-and-coming guys.
	It's kind of funny they're trying to mold him that way.
	Yeah, I can see that.
	Sneak a tattle for that.
	Coming with, um, seven.
	Seven. Yep.
	He used to go on Oprah and stuff too.
	Oh really?
	What was he before?
	He has a decent background.
	He's like a veteran.
	Oh yeah?
	Yeah.
	And some type of business career.
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	Joe Biden is humiliating our country on the world stage.
	He's actually humiliating us.
	You saw what happened this weekend.
	It's turning the United States into a total joke all over the world.
	First, he wandered off the G7 in Europe, the stage.
	It looked like he didn't know where the hell he was, but he didn't know where he was.
	He's blaming it now on AI.
	He's saying... He doesn't know what AI is, but that's okay.
	Now they're saying the media is manipulating... Oh, he's saying the media is manipulating now.
	On that one I have to stick up for the media, I have to tell you.
	He said the media is manipulating the pictures of him constantly not knowing where the hell he is.
	They're doing just the opposite.
	They're making him look better.
	At the G7 in Europe, and he had to be rescued by other world leaders.
	They had to pull him back.
	Then he bizarrely put his face on the Pope's forehead.
	What was that all about?
	That was weird.
	Biden's blaming AI for the cheap fakes, but he doesn't even know what it is.
	Great line from the president just yesterday in Wisconsin.
	Let's go to Cheryl in Orange County waiting patiently on line one.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	First of all, I just want to say God bless you and God bless President Trump.
	I'm sitting here with my mom.
	She's an almost 97-year-old Holocaust survivor.
	And when Joe Biden talks about, you know, they use these fancy words, like one of the things Charlie Kirk said, and that's, you know, that they attack the language.
	These are not migrants.
	These are not, you know, undocumented.
	These are people who are breaking the law.
	My mom was in the concentration camp.
	She was rescued by the U.S.
	Army after she was in Auschwitz, Geislingen, and liberated by the Americans in Dachau.
	She waited in displaced persons camps from 1945, the end of World War II, to 1950.
	My aunt had to send affidavits of support saying, my mom will not take a job from any American.
	She is not a socialist.
	She is not a communist.
	The United States government will not have to support her.
	She will have a place to live.
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	President Trump, everybody talks about, oh, the Abraham Accords or whatever.
	He did so much more than that for the state of Israel and the Jewish people.
	He sanctioned Iran, not like when Biden and Obama left and they gave the $221 billion or whatever it was as they walked out the door to, you know, help fund terrorism.
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	what was being accused in those by others.
	And he said this did not happen in the sense of what people were saying they were seeing, right?
	Or what was being falsely reported that they were seeing.
	Let's not forget, President Obama, President Biden have a relationship.
	They are friends.
	They're like family to each other.
	And I think that's what you saw.
	Uh, you saw the president put his hand behind on the back of President Biden and they walked off the stage.
	These are not the droids you are looking for.
	What you are seeing with your own two eyes did not happen in those viral videos.
	They're just cheap fakes.
	I don't know where she got that from.
	What is the level of gaslighting they will resort to?
	Well, it is in overdrive.
	I'm going to dedicate this hour to what would happen to the world in a second Trump administration, God willing, if we do our part, with the man best positioned to tell us, a former member, of the Trump Cabinet the first time around.
	But I would like first to address the issue of the constant gaslighting with a man who,
	with his senior strategic contributor for Newsmax hat on, was watching not just the
	G7, but the Normandy celebrations, the 80-year anniversary, a very good friend of the show,
	Secretary of Veterans Affairs, the Honorable Robert Wilkie.
	Secretary Wilkie, welcome back in studio.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for having me.
	So you were there doing the coverage for our colleagues at Newsmax.
	I was watching.
	Yes, watching the coverage as you were analyzing.
	So you saw what was happening.
	Let's just run some of this footage.
	From Italy, from Normandy.
	First we have the chair that's, you know, far behind him.
	He thinks it's right there.
	He's looking for it.
	He bends down.
	Jill tries to ignore him.
	So that's the chair incident.
	Then there's the walking up to the column and just vaguely walking into the middle distance as everybody else is actually representing their nations.
	And then do we have the parachutist?
	Do we have the rocket?
	Here we go.
	All the heads of state are applauding the skydiver who just landed.
	And off he walks into the middle distance.
	And then Maloney has to go from the other side of the group to grab him by the arm and lead him back.
	And the worst of all is what we saw in Los Angeles a few days ago.
	His former boss have to grab him by the wrist And lead him off the stage, holding him by the nape of the neck.
	And then we're told this is all fake.
	This is, this is, you know, MAGA extremists with their cheap fakes.
	You watched this, these feeds as you were there for Newsmax.
	Could you talk to us about what you saw and also the significance from, well, let's say a national security perspective?
	Well, let's start with the President of the United States arriving 50 minutes late to this solemn celebration.
	On the stage were veterans of Overlord, both British and American, all of them over 100 years old.
	Wrapped in blankets because even though it was a beautiful blue sky, the wind coming off of the water creates a very cold environment.
	So as each minute went by and the president was not there, French soldiers brought out more blankets.
	And you could see on Mrs. Macron's face her anger being made manifest as each minute went by.
	And then there were certain times during the ceremony, and the camera wasn't on him, but I could see it.
	For instance, when the old guard, U.S.
	old guard, Bugler, played the French version of Taps and then Taps, Everyone's facing the bugler with hands over the heart or saluting.
	Biden's off looking at the rear of the amphitheater, off to the side, wandering, his wife trying to turn him around.
	And then I did commentary on the G7 and the Italian parachute jump.
	If you look at that film, despite what the White House says, all of the leaders, plus Ursula van der Linde, the head of the EU, are looking at the paratrooper who came down.
	Right.
	You see him right there.
	Now, the only thing off to the side were an Italian soldier who was rolling up the parachute.
	We're about 40 feet away.
	Right.
	Biden is looking off at the sea.
	He's not acknowledging anyone.
	And you see the expression on Ursula van der Linde's face.
	And then Maloney realizes what's happening, and she goes over and directs him.
	This is a moment only reached one time in American history.
	And that was Woodrow Wilson.
	When you did not have a president capable of pushing a button or responding to a button being pushed against you.
	And his wife was running the country.
	And his wife and his doctor was running the country.
	And talk about, let's also put it into the context of World War II, which we were commemorating.
	I mean, there's a reason that Roosevelt and his team hid the fact that he was in a wheelchair.
	Right.
	Why? Why is it so important that the world thinks that
	we have a commander-in-chief who's actually physically and mentally there?
	Who's there. Who's virile, who's up to the enormous and intractable demands
	that world leadership bring to the table.
	And it's only in the last months of Roosevelt's presidency that they couldn't hide it any longer.
	You know, after Yalta, he goes to address Congress.
	He's not at the podium anymore.
	He's sitting at a table, and he has a cadaverous look on his face.
	And Truman talks later in life about his one meeting With Roosevelt, after he became Vice President.
	And he talks to, he tells his daughter, Margaret, he put more milk in the saucer than he did in the cup.
	And he went back and told his wife, this man's not going to be with us very much longer.
	And of course, the one group that took advantage of that was the Soviet Union.
	We are nine days away.
	It's hard to tell.
	I'm going to be there, if it actually happens, for the debate between the incumbent and your former boss and my former boss.
	Just for a moment, would you speak as a cabinet member responsible for all our veterans, prior to that responsible for the readiness of all our warfighters, you know, they're dealing with Operation Warp Speed under COVID, Talk to us about the comparison with the 45th president and I still to this day
	Do not know how he does it, because he's 25 years older than me.
	Right.
	And I could not keep up with him in the White House.
	Right.
	And it was amazing to me that this man, from what I was told, and certainly what I experienced in some respects, this man slept two or three hours a day.
	The rest of the time he was on the job.
	He was constantly calling us.
	He was constantly engaged with the Cabinet.
	Now, I will quote Brit Hume.
	and make a comparison between our cabinet and this one.
	And Brit Hume said a few weeks ago that in his almost 60 years of covering cabinets,
	he's never seen a more nondescript and ineffectual group as this one.
	Wow.
	Because what you have there are...
	people functioning primarily as clerks.
	Yes.
	Where the White House staff expands and the 30-year-old Princeton radicals run the show,
	which is why the Secretary of Defense could disappear for 10 days.
	If I disappeared for 10 days in the middle of an epidemic, I would have been fired on
	the spot by the President of the United States, who demanded the highest level of sacrifice
	from all of us.
	Particularly in my case, because VA was really the federal government's response.
	We provided thousands of nurses and doctors, engineers, policemen, mobile clinics.
	Not to mention all your patients.
	Not to mention all the patients.
	We were able to open up several veterans' hospitals to civilians.
	I mean, there was no FEMA without VA.
	And if I had taken off a few days... Let me give you one other example of how mendacious the press is.
	I visited every state and all of our territories with the exception of the Virgin Islands.
	If I didn't have anything on my schedule, The Washington Post and the New York Times would dissent.
	Why isn't he doing his job?
	We had a Secretary of Transportation during the logistics crisis who went away for two months.
	Washington Post is silent in seven languages.
	Look at the President's schedule.
	It's empty most days.
	If he has one, it starts at noon and ends at two.
	Or it's a fundraiser in Los Angeles.
	We're talking to the former Secretary of Veterans Affairs.
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	All right, so we've dealt with the gaslighting, Secretary.
	I want to spend the next hour talking about what happens if, God willing, the good guys
	win.
	President Trump is installed.
	He becomes the 47th Commander-in-Chief.
	What our foreign and defense policy looks like for the next four years, there is no one better to give us that manifesto.
	But before we start with the various theaters, Europe, Asia and so forth, will you talk to us about your recent trips?
	Because we had our friend, you know Jim Carrafano, just returned from Europe and he was on the show on Friday and he said, I really want him back.
	Tell us about what you're seeing.
	So I have been through Eastern Europe.
	I'm going back on another swing.
	Budapest, Bucharest, Prague, Warsaw at the beginning of September.
	Let's look at the countries that you are most familiar with.
	They are part of your patrimony.
	They have been under two boots in the lifetime of my parents, the Nazi boot and the Soviet boot.
	They understand what it takes to push the Russians back.
	These are the nations who are saying, Joe Biden will destroy us.
	They were safe under Donald Trump.
	They understood that Putin was in his box and that he wasn't threatening them.
	That is the attitude, I think, of every Eastern European nation, and I would add probably the Italian leadership now.
	And I imagine that after the next elections, when the Lilliputians you saw at the G7 summit, including Mr. Trudeau, Monsieur Trudeau.
	He's in trouble right now.
	I think he's like 20 points behind.
	I think you'll see more of those leaders saying yes.
	And this will bring the European community together, because they understand that if they carry their weight, Trump is there.
	I'm just amazed—I had this conversation with a French intelligence officer who went to pieces when President Trump said, well, if you're not going to spend on your own defense, the Russians could have you.
	And I said, your service didn't do its first—didn't carry out its first responsibility.
	Read his book.
	It's called the art of the deal.
	The art of the deal.
	You say something that staggers your opponent and then you have control of the field, which they didn't do.
	Let's just put it into concrete perspective.
	When we walked into the White House and you walked into the VA, we had two-thirds of NATO were delinquent in their contributions to a collective defense alliance.
	By the time we left the White House, that figure had been halved and people were paying the dues they had promised to pay.
	And I left out the Greeks.
	The Greeks are fulfilling their obligation in spades.
	There is a conservative leader who has turned that country around.
	He's pro-Trump.
	So I would add him to the equation.
	They don't need platitudes.
	They don't need more U.N.
	resolutions and U.N.
	debates, which is the hallmark of this administration, led by Brother Blinken.
	They need concrete support, and they will get that, and they will see that in the form of a realistic defense budget.
	What they are seeing now is a glide path on the part of the United States to 2% of GDP on defense.
	We haven't achieved that since the administration of William Howard Taft, and he left in March of 1913.
	And that's what they are seeing.
	They are seeing America's capacity to respond to crises shrivel up.
	At the same time, they are seeing American leadership unwilling to respond to direct
	attacks not only on American troops, which is bad enough, but also on international shipping
	in the sea lanes that Europe needs to keep things flowing.
	The other thing, when you look at what I call the Paris-Berlin axis, and these are the two
	great malefactors, there are a lot of talk.
	Don't forget the Berlin-Moscow axis.
	That's the next point.
	The Berlin-Moscow axis.
	Moscow in the last year has now replaced, because of France and because of Germany, the United States as the largest supplier of natural gas to Europe after all of this.
	But that goes back to Biden.
	The other thing the Europeans will see on day one is that American energy independence will be restored.
	We have more than enough for ourselves.
	It goes to Europe.
	The prices come down.
	You bankrupt both Tehran and Moscow, which is what Trump was doing.
	Yeah, we had Iran on the brink of collapse, the regime on the brink of collapse, which would have meant what?
	The Persian people could have taken back their country, a proud people who Well, we don't want to liberate them, but they need to liberate themselves.
	The idea that when we were in the White House, America was exporting energy.
	We had more energy than we could use ourselves.
	What happens day one?
	Keystone pipeline extension shut down, fracking licenses suspended on federal lands.
	And what happens?
	The bad guys make money off us, including Tehran and Moscow.
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	You mentioned what China is doing.
	We've got the B-roll of what they did with our military aircraft, buzzing incredibly close to our military aircraft.
	We have, I think, what was it, a Philippine vessel that was hit by a Chinese vessel just a few days ago.
	And there were injuries.
	People were wounded on the Philippine vessel.
	Will you explain, Secretary, What this means, because this isn't accidental, this is
	China doing something important.
	This is China flexing its muscles against a president it has no respect for.
	And you certainly see that being played out in other theaters of the world.
	The Chinese are sending a message.
	And the message is one where they don't want to take Taiwan by force if they don't have
	to.
	But you know what they are telling the Taiwanese and the Koreans and the Japanese now.
	Bye.
	This president has thrown over the side the two nations on the planet with the deepest historical and spiritual ties to the American nation.
	First, the United Kingdom.
	By even saying something so bizarre as telling Boris Johnson that Northern Ireland is not part of the United Kingdom.
	Referring to it as part of the Republic.
	And then opposing Britain's departure from the EU and embarrassing the United Kingdom, not even telling the British that we were leaving Afghanistan.
	Well, I think that's the one that really was the marker.
	So that's one.
	And the second is, of course, doing everything that it can to undermine the duly elected government of Israel, playing up to the Ayatollah.
	So what the Chinese are doing is saying, how can you trust these people?
	Look what they're doing.
	Couldn't it be more than that?
	Couldn't it be that we're not afraid of America, America is afraid of us because we can do this stuff?
	Well, I think that would be part of it, but it's all part of the same package.
	And you just mentioned what's going on in the sea lanes.
	I think the most stark Example of Biden weakness is what's going on in the Gulf of Aden and the entrance to the Suez Canal, where Iranian-backed brigands have managed to cross the Gulf and bracket the second busiest sea lanes on the planet.
	They fire with impunity.
	Tehran's proxies on the mainland continue to fire at American troops in the region, and there is no sustained response.
	This emboldens the Ayatollahs.
	Because of the three-headed monster out there, I could make the argument, and I think it's pretty accurate, that the weakest is the Iranian regime.
	The Israelis are taking care of one of its proxy armies, yet another is attacking America with impunity.
	China points to that.
	Venezuela points to that.
	And it goes back to something I experienced as a child.
	And I've told you this story before.
	My father was a senior officer in the 82nd Airborne when the hostages were taken in Tehran in 1979
	under Mr. Carter.
	And I'm at a junior varsity football game.
	And there are three of my history teachers in front of me.
	And one of them says, after the hostages are taken, anybody who wants us can have us.
	That has come back to us in spades, because unlike Mr. Carter, who acknowledged that he was wrong—too late to save his presidency, but he did say, I'm wrong—and he gave us the B-1 bomber.
	You're not going to hear that from the I hate America crowd that is running American foreign policy now.
	You mentioned Antony Blinken.
	I recommend the article the Secretary has given me in the Spectator.com.
	It's from Ben Dominich, lately of The Federalist.
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	Sounds like Ben's been listening to our show.
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	All right, I want to go quickly, theater by theater, because we've only got two segments left with you, Secretary Wilkie.
	But first, would you just spend a minute on the significance of the three frigates and the tugboat and the submarine off Cuba?
	Let's talk about the practical military side.
	It says a lot about Putin's desperation and the state of his armed forces that in this mighty flotilla of four vessels, two of the vessels are rescue ships.
	And remember what Ukraine has done to the Black Sea Fleet.
	They've sunk half the vessels without even having a Navy.
	But if this were Donald Trump or Reagan or Nixon, of course they wouldn't be playing around like this.
	The United States Navy would have said, no, you don't come into.
	Our hemisphere like this, but this is Joe Biden, and you see the panic amongst the Biden national security team.
	They take from this more impetus to tell the Ukrainians to stop because the
	Russians may not be nice to us.
	But they're so blinded, so blinkered, they don't realize that this is actually an act of desperation.
	That Putin is looking for the few friends that he has, Cubans, and that basket case off of Florida.
	Maduro and his thugocracy in Venezuela.
	By the way, a thugocracy that this administration turned to, once it cut off American energy independence, to go hat in hand to Maduro to ask him to give us Venezuelan dirty oil.
	And then warn them not to imprison the leader of the opposition, which is a tad ironic.
	Can I change the subject real quick?
	Real quick.
	You asked about what Trump would do.
	The greatest danger to this republic is the erosion of our military power.
	And tangential to that is the erosion of the military ethos, the political indoctrination of our force,
	to a level where they're now being told how to use pronouns, and they're being indoctrinated on climate change,
	and senior officers are making promotion decisions based on an individual's race or sexual orientation.
	This has happened once before in Western history.
	You're probably one of the few people who have studied it.
	During the French Third Republic, when the socialists came to power at that time, when socialism was achieving its first tide, what did the socialists do to the French army?
	They started to remove monarchists and Catholics.
	They decimated the army leadership.
	And guess what happened?
	When the Germans came through Belgium, The generals who were relieved for incompetence once the Germans attacked were those who were put in place because of politics.
	They were politically correct.
	They were politically correct then for France and France suffered millions of casualties as a result of that.
	So don't think That this erosion does not have downstream effects on the battlefield.
	That is something that the president has promised to address.
	It is something that must be addressed.
	We get back to the bayonet, we establish firm physical fitness standards, and we say once again to the young people of America, this is a noble profession.
	Duty to your country is the highest aspiration that anyone can have as a youngster.
	And get back to the way things were done before Joe Biden came to office.
	I've been shocked at the rapid decline in morale.
	The recruiting numbers, everyone knows.
	It is shocking.
	Let's look at the first two theaters that are of greatest concern, Europe and the Middle East.
	What are the directions for a second Trump administration in those?
	What are the priorities?
	Well, to lead Europe by getting NATO on board with spending.
	But we can't do that until we clean our own house up.
	I think that a Trump administration would do what the Reagan administration did.
	Which was to provide extensive air and naval power to Europe.
	Let the Europeans provide most of the boots on the ground.
	Although, as Trump showed, which the media has ignored, when push came to shove against Putin, what did we do?
	We put combat brigades in Eastern Europe.
	We put them in Lithuania and Latvia.
	We put them in Poland.
	The Polish president created a base for us called Camp Trump.
	The media will not tell you that.
	Joe Biden has pulled troops out of Europe.
	That's the message that he sends.
	Navy, it was a 600 ship Navy was the target for Reagan.
	Yes.
	We are now the smallest we've been since what?
	Well since 1938.
	What do we need?
	Well we need a rethinking about what naval power is and I'm in the minority.
	When we have the naval establishment building $13 billion aircraft carriers, that, as my
	old boss Bob Gates says, you can't put within range of a half-million-dollar Chinese anti-ship
	missile.
	A cheap missile.
	A cheap missile.
	We need to rethink.
	The fight in Ukraine is showing us a way on several levels.
	First, the use of mass drones, both at sea and on land, that can overwhelm any defensive
	system and overwhelm naval power.
	Big targets.
	Big targets.
	The second, it's also telling us that we have to retool.
	In the next few weeks, our friends in the Czech Republic will be sending 1.2 million artillery rounds to the Ukrainian army.
	What does that tell us?
	That the lessons of the 20th century, the 20th century warfare, have not been forgotten.
	Ukraine is showing us that it is still a brutal, ugly business, and that we need to retool artillery shells, precision-guided munitions.
	The monster of the battlefield, artillery.
	That's exactly right.
	And then for our air and space force.
	But unless and until We get morale back to where it needs to be, and we get rid of the politicians in uniform, then a lot of this will fall on deaf ears.
	But I think President Trump will go to the people and say, just as Reagan did, we cannot afford to be weak any longer, because this is a much more dangerous world than the one Reagan faced.
	Well, I know a man who could do that job, because I think he was responsible for all readiness across our armed services in a prior incarnation, and he's sitting right here in this studio.
	I'm talking to the former Secretary of Veterans Affairs in the Trump administration.
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	Secretary Wilkie, you have been one of the stalwart advocates, along with myself and a handful of others, for explaining that America First, which is President Trump, isn't America only.
	Would you give us two minutes on why it's not America only and why isolationism could never work?
	Isolationism was never part of the Trump worldview.
	What the Trump worldview was, was the accumulation of really Republican thought.
	But I also go back to an article that Dean Acheson, the gray eminence of the Democratic Party's foreign policy establishment, President Truman's Secretary of State, Acheson wrote a piece a few weeks after the Cuban Missile Crisis, January 1st, 1963.
	Where he talks about the United States having to make Europe carry its own weight.
	That was the message of John Kennedy's first inaugural address.
	That is what Ronald Reagan preached.
	That is what Donald Trump preached.
	America is your friend, but you have to help America.
	We cannot be everywhere in the world, particularly in Europe.
	Well, thanks to de Gaulle.
	Thanks to de Gaulle.
	times the size of how they have the money they have the money and I
	mentioned the two great freeloaders Germany and France now France does have
	a credible nuclear deterrent I don't think they've ever been given enough
	credit for how that played into the equation the defeat of the Soviet Union
	because you always had to guess particularly well thanks to the goal
	thanks to the goal there's no de Gaulle there now but that that is what we ask
	We will be your friend, but you have to be a friend and a partner.
	And we saw that.
	We saw that in Europe, not only with the dispatch of American men and materiel, but also with half of the NATO nations stepping up to spend what they need to spend.
	I mean, think about what this administration has done.
	Let's go to Asia real fast.
	The Chinese threat.
	The Chinese are controlling the other two heads of this monster.
	The Iranian head and the Russian head.
	They're the most important.
	This president calls Japan a nation of xenophobes.
	He then turns around and calls the world's most populous nation, and next Your superpower, India, a nation vital if we are going to contain China.
	They're also a nation of xenophobes, that they don't understand what America understands that you let your borders open.
	The insults coming from this administration to our friends, it happens every day, and the press doesn't cover it, but they are taking note around the world, and that's why our friend Jim Carrafano is right, that these nations are praying for someone who treats them with respect, understands their particular histories, and does everything to support them because they are supporting us.
	And I would also add that I think our alliances in Asia, once Biden is gone, will be stronger than they are in Europe, because when you look at Korea, Japan, Australia, Singapore, India.
	They have powerful militaries.
	They understand 5,000 years of Chinese aggression.
	They've been victim to it.
	So there are no blinkers on those people.
	And we just have to maintain our presence and maintain those partnerships.
	And they all want somebody back who their enemies are afraid of, and that is President Trump.
	We've been talking to Secretary Robert Wilkie of the Trump Cabinet, formerly of Veterans Affairs, and a readiness in the Pentagon.
	Now you can follow his work at the America First Policy Institute and his analysis with regularity at Newsmax.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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