Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Fox News goes full RINO with latest Biden poll
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It has to do with the stakes of the November election.
Let me play first for you a doorbell camera recording.
The sound quality is not the best, of course, because it is a doorbell camera.
To prove to you that what's happening in America is not just about President Trump or Peter Navarro or Steve Bannon.
It's about you or any American.
All you're going to see is footage from the home of Vanessa Savage, who is a nurse at the Texas Children's Hospital, who has two FBI agents ring her doorbell.
Play cut, please.
Hello?
Hi.
I'm looking for Vanessa Savage.
OK.
Yeah.
Who are you?
I'll make some FBI agents.
Hi, how are you?
You want a seat, too?
Are we interrupting dinner?
I'm really sorry.
That's alright.
What's going on?
Let me start at the beginning.
So I'm sure you're aware of some of the things that have been going on at your work lately.
Are we interrupting dinner? I'm really sorry.
That's alright. What's going on?
Um, let me start at the beginning.
So, I'm sure you're aware of some of the things that have been going on at your work lately.
With regards to...
Yeah, so, I gotta... Can I... Can we sit down for a minute?
Let me do my song and dance and stuff.
Thank you.
Can we sit down for a minute and you let me do my song and dance?
What is that fat agent doing anyway?
Since when does the FBI have corpulent individuals who are as wide as they are tall?
I'd love to see him do his basic fitness test.
Let me do my song and dance.
And then he says, the thing's going on at work.
What are you talking about going on at work?
Well, here are the details from the New York Post from Jenny Tear.
Headline.
Whistleblower nurse claims FBI threatened her after she accused Children's Hospital of illegally billing taxpayers for, quote, transgender medicine.
This isn't about President Trump.
It's not about his advisers in the White House.
It's not about his attorneys.
Rudy Giuliani.
Christina Bobb.
It's about an average American.
Just listen to this story.
A whistleblower who accused the nation's largest children's hospital of illegally billing taxpayers for quote transgender medicine claims that the FBI showed up at her home to intimidate her for speaking out.
Vanessa Savage, who is a nurse at Texas Children's Hospital, said the alleged feds, quote, promised they would make life difficult for her and that she was, quote, not safe at work after she started speaking out about the facility's, quote, gender-affirming care practices.
Hey, New York Post, it's not gender-affirming, all right?
Don't be PC.
You did that last week by calling a transgender woman she.
They're men, okay?
So you might be a conservative newspaper, but don't cede the language.
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is investigating her allegations, a spokesman for his office told the New York Post.
Savage has told conservative journalist Chris Rufo, God bless you Chris, that the hospital was billing gender-affirming care to Medicaid.
Excuse me?
Children being mutilated?
Being, quote, transitioned?
And government?
Medicaid pays for it?
Texas law prohibits the use of taxpayer funds for such gender-affirming care for children.
Hey, New York Post, that's three times.
You're not affirming gender, you're denying gender.
Quote, this is from the nurse.
It is evident that the hospital continues to believe it is above the law, not just by concealing the existence of their transgender medicine program from the public, but by stealing from the federal government, she said.
Two weeks later, Chris Rufo reported the men who identified themselves as FBI agents showed up at her door and accused her of breaking federal privacy laws.
So that's how they're going to go after her, is it?
Savage told Chris Rufo, they threatened me.
They promised they would make life difficult for me if I was trying to protect the leaker.
They said, quote, it was not safe at work for me and claimed that someone at my workplace had given my name to the FBI.
In her conversations with Rufo, Savage also alleged that a doctor she worked with took a totally uncritical approach to providing medical intervention for children who said they wanted to transition to another gender.
Quote, the doctor is extremely encouraging of their transition and will essentially do whatever he can to make sure they are happy, at least externally.
But I am absolutely certain that they are not happy internally.
We need to get this nurse, if possible, on the show.
Because if the FBI is being used as a propaganda tool to intimidate those who are protecting children, then we have arrived, ladies and gentlemen.
Nobody talks about what transition surgery and hormone therapy does to these children.
For the rest of their lives, they will have to be medicated, they will never have any form of real sexual pleasure, and they will be sterilized.
Just like the Nazis did with the Untermensch, the subhumans, who they weren't yet ready to put into gas chambers, they sterilized them.
Why is it being done here in America, at the biggest children's hospital, and why is the FBI covering for it and intimidating those who are revealing the facts?
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All righty.
Want me to dial Matt now or give it a minute?
You can give it a minute.
Okay.
Play me cut five.
Five.
Do you know, in past debates, did he do mock debates?
I mean, did he have somebody playing somebody else?
Well, Chris Christie, I mean, played a version of Hillary Clinton and he played a version of Biden in 2020 and then in 2016 before that.
So, yeah, I mean, those were, look, Trump doesn't like I mean, he considers it school.
So the fact that they've gotten him to do it this way is actually pretty revealing and also speaks to the fact that I think he knows that this has to go well for him.
He has said to people multiple times that he knows that he interrupted too much in the first debate with Biden in 2020.
And having just rewatched that debate recently, it's really striking.
I mean, we all talked about it at the time, but Biden could barely get a word in edgewise and Biden was kind of smiling throughout as this was happening.
Okay.
Cut seven.
Seven.
Well, Martha, I think you know that this is just ridiculous.
The Democrats seem to have two strategies.
One is be afraid, and the second strategy is be even more afraid.
There's no basis at all in these assertions that they're making.
It's all this fear-mongering.
President Trump served as our president for four years, and during that time, we had peace and prosperity.
Under Joe Biden, we're actually living under a dictatorship today where he's bypassing Congress on immigration policy.
He's bypassing Congress on protecting our border.
He's bypassing Congress on student loan forgiveness.
And he's defying the Supreme Court.
I mean, those are the things that authoritarians and dictators do is they don't follow our democratic processes and they just assert their own liberal view.
And that's what the Biden administration is doing.
All right.
And we have Matt.
Hey, Matt.
Hey, Dr. G. How are you, sir?
Good, good, good, good.
How you doing?
Doing good.
We want to talk about your interview with Navarro.
Done.
All right.
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And sometimes it is hard to go back home after that.
But, you know, we also give those kids a Bible.
And so many times, we'll get a report back from the parent or caregiver.
Okay, good.
All right.
I'll use it.
The other thing that I think is really interesting, because I really got to know Donald Trump and those presidents, and I see what he was like.
And one kid was talking about how Joe Biden needs to take a cognitive test.
Joe Biden, you know, isn't all there.
Donald Trump had severe memory issues.
How did you do that interview with him?
with him I have to say he couldn't remember things he couldn't even remember
me we spent an hour together in 2000 50-some in May and then a few months
later I went back to the White House I went back to Trump Tower
how did you do that interview with him what was it over phone or what was in
I had to send the questions into somebody with him, uh, who took them into him in prison, then he sent back written answers.
Wow.
Yeah.
It's pretty incredible.
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wanting to talk to him about one of his recent articles since the moment it dropped.
We are delighted to have him back on the show.
He's the Washington bureau chief for the conservative juggernaut that is Breitbart.com.
Matt Boyle, happy Thursday.
Dr. G, always a pleasure.
Great to be here.
So you published a piece recently on your interview with my former White House colleague Peter Navarro, who is inside a federal prison.
I'd like you to share with us the key points of that interview.
But first, talk to us about the logistics.
He's in a federal prison for contempt of Congress, for which Merrick Garland is also guilty right now.
The Attorney General to the Biden regime is not in prison.
How did you affect this?
Did you go to the prison?
Did you do it over the phone?
How do you interview somebody who's being persecuted by the Biden regime?
So yeah, Peter's coming out with a new book as soon as he gets out of prison next month.
And the book is titled The New MAGA Deal.
And so I had to work with his publisher to send questions in writing through his publisher.
His publisher went in person into the prison.
And then he had to give out written answers back to us, which, I mean, just goes to show you just how terrible it is in a Joe Biden prison, right?
Like, I mean, this is the, he's only in prison because Joe Biden wants him in prison.
If Joe Biden didn't want him in prison, he wouldn't be there, right?
Like, Joe Biden could commute his sentence today and release him right now, but he refuses to do that.
This is what they want for anybody who believes in America first, who believes in President Trump.
uh... the job i want to lock up his political opponents right like i mean
this is a third world banana republic and that's what we had to do
is we had to send in written questions his publisher uh... took them into him by the questions that i had sent
in on that he sent back written answers through his publisher
uh... several days later i was almost a week i think later but by the time we
got the answers back There were several illuminating things that he said in this interview that I think people should all take to heart and take warning of.
Before we get to the contents, can you give us a sense of what Peter's spirit is like, Matt?
His spirits are high, but he did say that there's not much, he's somebody who, people who know him well would know that Peter used to ride his bicycle around Washington D.C.
when he worked in the White House.
He would always ride his bicycle everywhere.
And there's not much exercise equipment there, he said.
It's all dysfunctional.
an old, decades old exercise bike.
So he's having trouble on that front.
He says he's having trouble, he's 75 years old, he's having trouble getting access
to prescription medication that he needs, as well as high protein foods.
He said all their foods are like junk food, like sugar foods and stuff, right?
Like so troubling in that regard.
But he also said that many of the people in there are familiar with his work in the White House
and they are huge fans of President Trump.
So both the guards and the other prisoners, because of the First Step Act.
If he was a Biden guy, he said he would be having a lot rougher time in there.
Well, that's good to know.
I didn't know about the bicycle thing.
All I know is that when I got to work at like, you know, 6.45 to the White House, Peter would be coming back from his morning run.
I think he got in at about 6 a.m.
It's very irritating.
I did not know he's 75 years old.
That's shocking.
He must have the same kind of genes as President Trump.
All right.
So give us a couple of the key takeaways from your interview with Peter.
Yeah, so Peter's saying that, because again, the time we published this was right around the time President Trump was convicted in the New York sham trial that he was going through.
And so Peter was obviously behind bars when this was happening.
And so Peter says that all these people expecting that Murshan is not going to try to put him in prison are just wrong, right?
Like he would have said the same in his situation.
But they did it anyway to make him a political prisoner.
Look, Peter's saying that he expects that they will try to put Donald Trump in prison
when the sentencing happens right before the Republican National Convention in just a few
weeks.
And in addition to that, he warned that if Donald Trump does not win this election, that
this is going to be the new normal.
The Democrats are going to keep doing this to everyone.
There's nothing normal about this new normal, right?
I mean, they are going to engage in this level of weaponization, whether it's against Peter Navarro, Steve Bannon, Donald Trump, or really anybody, right?
Like all these different people that we're seeing charged in all these different sham cases around the country.
So the fact is that the only way to actually return to real normal is to elect Donald Trump to the White House.
So that way we can actually have real justice under the law and not this nonsense that's been going on.
Yeah, I don't think they're going to break Peter, but he's absolutely right.
My expectation is three days before the convention they wish to put, it is clear I was there in the courtroom with President Trump, Judge Mo Chan is there as a political weapon of the DOJ and he will put President Trump in prison or the very best case scenario is that they will attempt to put him under house arrest to make it impossible for him Not only to attend and be physically nominated at the convention, but also to campaign.
But just as they did with the conviction and everything else, they will only make him more and more popular.
Stay with us, Matt, for one more segment.
In the meantime, make sure you are following Truth Social at Real Matt Boyle and read his interview with former assistant to the president, Peter Navarro at Breitbart.com.
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Oh my gosh, where did all those people come from?
Mike, Dave, Derek, another Dave, an Antoinette.
Hold on, we'll talk to you after we are finished with our good friend Matt Boyle.
You did, yeah.
Oh, that was total bite and brain fart.
Okay, um... What am I doing here?
PhD.
C. PhD.
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Alex says pillow.
Because it's C?
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C. Um, I'll do, uh... Come in with cut three, then I'll do, um... Pillow, and then I'll go to Matt.
Three, then pillow.
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Cut three is fun.
Alrighty.
Play cut four.
In this poll today, the top two issues in this Fox News poll, Anna, say that voter-to-voters are the future of American democracy and the economy.
Both of them.
Yeah, I don't know why polls think and why some strategists think that the American public isn't capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time.
Of worrying about their pocketbook issues and worrying about democracy.
And I don't understand how you don't worry about democracy when you are constantly hearing Trump and the people around him talking about retribution and revenge.
That would worry me tremendously as somebody that might be the target of his revenge.
That worries me personally, but it worries me for the country as a whole.
And look, I'm so glad he's no longer on trial, that he's been convicted, and he's no longer on trial because he's now out doing rallies and speaking publicly.
And every day he says stupid things.
Delusion.
Her calling anybody stupid, that is quite something.
I love that she has to go out of her way to pronounce it as DEMOCRACY.
Like, for no reason.
DEMOCRACY.
Play the whole Josh Hawley thing.
Um, oh yeah, this is pretty good.
You said at the time that definitively SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct.
Is not a laboratory construct.
Of course, our own government, key agencies have concluded otherwise.
And on the basis of this, Dr. Fauci and others cited this piece and went out to use it to mobilize our own government to censor people who ask questions about it.
People lost their jobs because of this.
They lost their jobs, they lost their standing, they were kicked off Facebook, they were kicked off Twitter.
Do you regret being part of this effort, this propaganda effort?
Sir, I was simply just writing a paper about our scientific opinions about where this virus came from.
Oh, no, you weren't.
You said in an email that we now have that you tried to withhold, but that we have, February 2, 2020, you wrote, I really can't think of a plausible natural scenario where you can get from the bat virus, or one very similar to it, to this.
I'm quoting you.
I just can't figure out how this gets accomplished in nature.
It's stunning.
Of course, in the lab, it would be easy.
Well, of course.
And I actually figured it out.
That's the whole point of that.
You figured it out?
You wrote this while you were writing your propaganda piece.
I wrote that somewhere around February 2nd.
Yeah, it was exactly February 2nd.
And you testified that you were writing your proximal origin paper in early February.
So you're saying that, what, did it come to you overnight?
There was new data that came in.
Like a revelation from God.
No.
It's simply the scientific method.
I got it.
I got it.
I figured it out.
I figured it out.
And now I can definitively rule out.
It's amazing.
Is that what happened?
It's just the scientific method.
Oh, it's just science.
Oh, it's the scientific method.
That happened at lightning speed.
And then was used to propagandize and lie to and shut down.
Street.
We are releasing new Fox polls right now about the presidential race.
President Biden gets his best result this election cycle in the head-to-head against former President Donald Trump.
He leads 50 to 48.
That is within the margin of error.
President Biden hasn't been ahead of former President Trump in the polls since October 2023.
He trailed Trump by one point last month.
Again, All within the margin of error, a very tight race.
When listing extremely important issues to their vote, registered voters in this survey citing the future of democracy at 68%, the economy at 66, followed by stability and normalcy, then healthcare and immigration, abortion and guns.
I guess calling Arizona early for Biden wasn't bad enough.
That's when everybody ditched Fox and came over to Newsmax.
Then they had that segment a few months ago about, oh, transitioning a nine-year-old boy is great.
Paul Ryan and Lachlan, you are destroying that network.
And now we're supposed to believe that Biden's winning in the polls and most voters care about the threat to democracy?
Yeah, we'll discuss that with our good friend from Breitbart momentarily.
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I mean, every significant poll, New York Times, Sienna, the leftists say battleground states are President Trump's, Pennsylvania, Virginia is a toss-up, and then Fox brings us a poll that Biden's winning.
You're a media maven.
What's going on?
There are so many problems with this Fox News poll that, I mean, look, at a certain point, you just got to really just turn off Fox News, right?
If you're a real Republican or you're a conservative, you believe in America, even if you're a Democrat, like you're not going to get it straight from them.
They just aren't going to tell you accurate information anymore.
They're not worth watching.
There are some good people who work there.
Don't get me wrong.
I like different ones who work there.
But the fact is, is that with Paul Ryan on the board of the Fox Corporation, It's just a broken network and it's not going to get fixed until there are major systemic changes there.
This poll shows, if you look, you pull open the hood and you look at the cross tabs and whatnot, it shows Biden and Trump tied in urban areas, but Biden winning rural areas.
That's not going to happen in this election in either way, right?
Like Trump might do better in urban areas than he's done in the past, but the Democrats generally win the cities, right?
Rural areas are going to go Republican.
The issue set that you showed up there, that picture of that, where they said just saving
the future of democracy or whatever, the term is, there's no way that's the number one issue.
Absolutely not, not even close.
There's absolutely no chance if you ask any real poll of the American public, that is
not the number one issue.
I could see immigration, I could see the economy, national security maybe, crime even, but there's no absolutely way.
It's impossible.
This also comes as Emerson College polls, which are actually pretty good.
Across the board, show Donald Trump leading head-to-head in six battleground states.
All six battleground states he leads Joe Biden.
He's tied head-to-head in Minnesota.
If you add in all the third party candidates like RFK and Jill Stein and Cornel West, Donald Trump leads across all seven states.
Right?
Like, if Donald Trump wins even half of them, he's president again, right?
Like, so there are more pathways to 270 electoral votes right now for Donald Trump than there are for Joe Biden.
It is very clear, abundantly clear.
I was just in Michigan this past weekend at the Turning Point event that the Charlie Kirk folks were putting on there, and they're doing the ballot chasing stuff and everything.
That stuff is working, right?
Like, we're seeing what's happening in Georgia, Arizona.
Right?
Like, those states are basically back in the fold now, if you look at it across the board.
And if Trump has those two back, along with everything he had in 2020, he's one state away from the presidency.
Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Virginia, all could put him over the top.
And frankly, it's looking very good for Donald Trump right now.
I'd much rather be Trump than Biden.
But also, don't get complacent out there, right?
Like, you need to keep fighting all the way through.
We've got four months to the election.
The Democrats, as we saw in 2020, Are very capable of some real nasty dirty tricks and I fully expect them to do everything they possibly can between now and then.
But again, I don't know if they can save the old man from himself at this point.
I think that Donald Trump is destined to head back to the White House and we are going to make America great again.
We don't take anything for granted, and as a military man said to me, you run and you climb up that ramp like you're the third monkey trying to get onto Noah's Ark.
We must save the republic, it's up to us.
Matt, am I going to see you in Atlanta next week for the debate?
I'm not sure yet.
We'll see if I'm going to make it there or not.
I've got another thing coming up early next week, so we'll see.
He's always busy.
He's always writing stuff.
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PhD.
PhD!
PhD at the top.
You know that Fox poll had to be worded with the most weasel word ever, didn't it?
Oh, completely.
And I bet it was, like, three people.
Yeah.
Well, and for that top result to be, oh, top issue is future democracy, you know, was framed as, like, do you support, like, the possibility of Trump staging another January 6th and that then ties back to Wi-Fi?
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Totally, totally, totally.
Garbage.
Into the trash it goes, as Rich would say.
Alright.
30 seconds.
Did you want to come in with something here?
What do we have?
They're all pretty bloody long.
We have the Bernie.
I'll come in with 8.
8.
I was going to say a Bernie.
All right.
All right.
Thank you.
So I would say to working people, look, you'll have differences with Biden on this or that issue.
I have strong differences with the president on this or that issue.
But at the end of the day, if you want to move working families forward, I think the choice is clear.
And Biden is by far the preferable candidate.
He sold his soul to Hillary, right?
Right?
Endorsed her after they stole the nomination from him with the superdelegates.
And now he's whoring himself to Biden.
Working Americans?
Working Americans are going to do better under Joe Biden?
You filthy, filthy prostitute.
You just want to stay near the trough, don't you?
Unbelievable.
Alright, interesting breaking news.
Colin Rugg, he gets so many of the stories before other people.
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The FBI has provided no other information.
Tao We will keep you apprised of any developments from that story.
The Mayor of Oakland?
Arrested by the FBI.
Was she wearing a MAGA hat?
Hmong minority, American mayor of a major city in America.
Tao is currently facing a recall vote as crime in Oakland continues to skyrocket.
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Line one, Mike, California.
Hello, Dr. Gorka.
I wanted to bring up an issue where it's another example of how the other side, the genocidal Marxists, the jihadist Muslims, always accuse our side Of what they themselves are actually guilty of, and I heard this recently, I think it was on the Dennis Prager Show, that at UCLA, the pro-Hamas terrorist, excuse me, protesters, pro-Hamas terrorist protesters, protesting in support of Hamas, were calling a rabbi there, who was supporting Israel, a pedophile.
And then also, months ago, at the Long Beach City Council meeting, where they had a three-hour hate fest against Israel, Muslims there were claiming Israelis are pedophiles.
Of course it's all false.
But let's put this in perspective.
Muhammad, he married Aisha, one of his many wives, when she was six years old, so that's kindergarten age, and he consummated the marriage with intercourse when she was nine years old, third grade age.
So wouldn't that make Muhammad a pedophile in addition to the fact he was a genocidal mass murderer, a mass torturer, a huge thief?
A whole lot of other horrible things, and he was nothing like Jesus, or like Moses, or Abraham.
Well, he wiped out whole Jewish tribes.
He wiped out whole Jewish tribes.
And if you want to know the real message of the Quran, read it!
Chapter 9, verse 29.
Thank you, Mike.
Dave in Arizona, line 2.
Thank you, Dr. G. Ultramag fully engaged in an act of GOP dittos from state 48.
Greetings, my friend.
What would you like to talk about?
It was great to see Matt Boyle today.
He did a good hit with you and a good hit with the Admiral earlier on War Room, like a Breitbart 2024 reunion tour.
I love it.
Nice.
All right.
Is that why you called?
No, no.
I'm just alarmed how far the Republic has fallen based on that FBI clip you showed today.
I mean, it's just it's unreal and it's just For lots of us, it's since May 25th of 2020 when we the people have, you know, we previously all believed that law enforcement was on our side, but after the fall of Somaliopolis and law enforcement was totally inactive defending us, we the people, but now, you know, since we've got two systems of justice, we might as well have none.
And it's just, it's aggravating.
You know, I'm excited to go to a PC meeting today, but I don't know if I can plant enough seeds to turn this around.
And I'm just, I'm shocked based on the test case of 2022 here in State 48.
I don't see the establishment class counting enough votes for our side to win, no matter how many we put in.
I don't understand what that means.
Counting enough votes for us.
What does that mean?
Are you talking about trying to steal an election?
Yeah, we saw very clearly that's what they did here in Arizona.
In Arizona, three out of five polling stations... But that's why we have to be engaged.
Don't talk to me about how you're not confident.
If you're not running for local office or working on a campaign or getting voters registered, I don't want to hear from you.
I don't want to hear negative views.
I want to hear what are you doing to win the election.
Thank you, Dave.
Derek Cleveland.
Thank you, Dr. G. Now, normally, I wouldn't be calling off just talking about Mr. Rogers' neighborhood, but you and Jennifer Horne started it yesterday.
I did.
I started it.
I started it.
My wife loves Mr. Rogers.
I said I find him a little bit too nice.
What's your contribution, Derek?
So, Bob France, our Salem host here, it's funny because it seems synchronized because this morning he played again.
And he's played this before.
Mr. Rogers has a song.
And you know, decades ago from the 70s.
And it's almost as if you Mr. Rogers is trolling.
I think I know which song you're talking about.
Is it the one that a boy is a boy a girl is a girl and they always will be?
Is that the one?
Yeah, exactly.
And yeah, the lyric Yes.
Boys are boys from the beginning.
Girls are girls right from the start.
Girls grow up to be the mommies.
Boys grow up to be the daddies.
A little wisdom there from Fred Rogers.
I know.
I know.
I will.
I might have to reassess Mr. Rogers based upon that one song.
And I think we might have to dig it up and play it on the show today.
Nicely done.
Nicely done, Derek.
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What do you, um, what did I put for Matt?
Thank you.
Just turn off Fox News for good.
Excellent.
and for the monologue and also for Chris.
FBI the threatens
the Whistleblower nurse?
Whistleblower nurse, yeah.
That really is insane.
The greatest cop movie ever made.
The greatest buddy cop movie ever made.
Mm-hmm.
I don't understand the Michael Steele thing.
Do you understand that?
I mean... They're really doubling down on the whole, like, oh, he called me a walkie terrible thing to try to, like, turn the base against... And, because it's a swing state as well, to try to turn them against him, but...
Yeah, I mean, again, I love at the very beginning that his delivery is so awful, he's like, it's noteworthy, um, uh, to take notes.
I know, he sounds stupid.
He's so awkward, yeah, he's clearly not, like, I don't know if he was a guest host or something, but like, he clearly is not cut out for part-time.
Can you, can you, um, come in with nine?
9.
The Greatest Showman.
10.
Now that it is a federal holiday, let's also incorporate into our tradition, our new traditions, that we will think of Juneteenth of a day for us to have a call to action to register folks to vote.
Let's think about Juneteenth as a way that reaffirms our commitment to holding on to our freedoms and rights, especially in this environment where there is a full-on attempt to attack fundamental freedoms and rights.
So, what?
Sorry?
Juneteenth is for registering voters?
I thought it had something to do with emancipation.
She really is the dumbest politician.
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Hey, Dr. G. How you doing?
Good.
I've got a couple things.
You've got one thing you can talk about because we've got Antoinette waiting in the wings.
Alright, gotcha, gotcha.
Okay, it's great that President Trump is going into the minority neighborhoods now.
I've been saying that for years, that he's already got his loyal followers.
He doesn't need to keep going there.
If he keeps going into these neighborhoods now, I live about five minutes from Chester, which is a suburb of Philadelphia.
It's got about 32,000... So are you going to the rally on Saturday with the President?
Why not?
Yeah, I'm open.
You gotta go.
He's gonna be there Saturday afternoon in Philly.
Right, I'll definitely go.
But he's definitely got it.
There's a stadium where the Union plays soccer.
It's right in Chester.
And if this fall, like in October, September, if he did a rally there, I'm telling you, it would win the election for him in Pennsylvania.
Okay, let's start with this Saturday, Phil.
Be there.
Antoinette.
It's Thursday!
The Gorka Man.
Hello, Dr. G. How are you today?
I'm good, but I've only got 70 seconds for you.
Tell me what's up with the voice of the voiceless.
Oh, hell.
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Eric, what's your take on that chap, uh, Doug Burger?
He's a governor, right?
And he's super rich?
Yeah, he is very independently wealthy.
His net worth is over a billion dollars from a software company he sold before he became governor, I believe.
Um, and yeah, he ran very briefly for president.
I think I've said this before to you privately.
I don't know if it's been said on the air.
One thing that people have noted about him is kind of a meme online.
If nothing else, working for him, he has that founding father physiognomy.
He has like those... Well, in that case, yeah, in that case, he looks like a guy from, you know, 250 years ago.
Um, I just remember one thing from the debates.
Didn't he, his favorite line was always, um, and I'm from a small town.
And I'm from a small town!
And did you know I'm from a small town?
It wasn't the most captivating, but Eric, this cut you found for us, this is pretty hardcore from him, right?
I think so, yeah.
He just lays it down like it is in this interview on the Fox.
Alright, so talking about the real threat to democracy, let's listen to a man from a small town, Governor Doug Burgum.
Well, Martha, I think you know that this is just ridiculous.
The Democrats seem to have two strategies.
One is be afraid, and the second strategy is be even more afraid.
There's no basis at all in these assertions that they're making.
It's all this fear-mongering.
President Trump served as our president for four years, and during that time, we had peace and prosperity.
Under Joe Biden, we're actually living under a dictatorship today, where he's bypassing Congress on immigration policy.
He's bypassing Congress on protecting our border.
He's bypassing Congress on student loan forgiveness.
And he's defying the Supreme Court.
I mean, those are the things that authoritarians and dictators do, is they don't follow our democratic processes, and they just assert their own liberal view.
And that's what the Biden administration is doing.
Again, not exactly the most stimulating and exciting delivery, but good for him.
He's saying, yeah, the only thing the Democrats have for the next four months is, be afraid!
And what's their other plan?
Be more afraid!
But what about the police state?
It has arrived, and that's from Governor Bergen.
Good for him.
Somebody who's not impressive at all.
In fact, The left is the left, right?
We know what they're going to do.
We know that they're just evil and all they care about is power and it doesn't matter who they have to trample over to keep it.
But when you're an alleged Republican or an alleged Conservative, but you actually betray everything you once said you stood for, In Dante's Inferno, there's an extra lower level of hell for people like that, and it includes Michael Steele.
Eric, what is going on here?
This is the most unimpressive... This makes me think this man is not only immoral, he's not very...
He can't talk well.
He's not very clever.
Yeah, that was the first thing that caught my attention with this clip.
I don't know if he's, like, guest hosting.
This is on Joy Reid's show on MSNBC.
I don't know if he was guest hosting or not.
But he says, like, at the very beginning he says, um, it's noteworthy to, um...
Take note of the facts.
He can't find the words.
And then I guess he's trying to go for a joke here.
Like, oh, Trump tries to say he doesn't hate Milwaukee, but he loves Chicago.
But it just it falls flat completely.
It's terrible.
Yeah, especially the first line.
We should note it's noteworthy or something.
So let's listen to the former chair of the RNC.
Incredibly, the former Chair of the RNC who now just lives on mainstream legacy-lying media talking about the convention and Milwaukee and some weird thing about Chicago, Michael Steele.
Now it's also notable to take note of the fact that this rally took place... Hang on, hang on.
Stop, stop, stop.
That is so delicious.
It's also notable to take note of... Do I sound clever to you or do I just sound really stupid because my name's Michael Steele?
That's just... Yeah, I think that's who he is.
Sorry, I had to interrupt.
Play that again.
Now it's also notable to take note of the fact that this rally took place in Wisconsin, just 30 miles outside of Milwaukee.
You know, the city Trump called horrible last week?
Well, that also happens to be the location of next month's Republican National Convention.
Trump made somewhat of an attempt to sort of clean up the mess he made on aisle 9 by claiming he really loves Milwaukee.
Even as new reporting shows he wasn't even planning on staying there during the convention in the first place.
Trump was reportedly planning on staying 90 miles away in, yep, Chicago.
That is, until reporters actually pressed him on it.
What's the point there, Eric?
He wanted to stay in... Is that a bad thing?
He's trying to make it sound like Trump really just hates Milwaukee.
You know, previously he talked about how bad the crime was there.
That's what the comments are really about.
But the easiest solution, what he conveniently leaves out... Yeah, Chicago is, you know, however far away from Milwaukee.
You know what else?
What isn't Chicago?
Let me think.
Does it have a big Trump sign on it?
It's one of President Trump's flagship hotels, the Trump International Hotel and Tower in Chicago.
Of course, why wouldn't he want to stay at his own hotel when it's relatively close to where the convention will be?
Michael Steele.
Don't give up the day job.
Somebody else who's a fraud, but at least it looks like she's discovered shampoo.
I just love it.
Chris Platt always used to talk about her lack of personal hygiene habits, is the New York Times' Maggie Haberman, who, um, Has a weird theory as well, though.
Just non-analysis analysis of the debates or the prepping for the debates.
Let me preface this.
This interview was given before we found out.
Do you know what's on President Biden's schedule today?
This is incredible.
What time is it now?
4.12.
I think he's already left according to the schedule.
President Biden has left the White House for?
Camp David.
Where he will be for a week.
Of?
Is he, like, working on some peace treaty for Ukraine or some nuclear deal on North Korea?
No.
Debate prep.
A week of debate prep?
Or is he going to receive some kind of transfusion of the chemicals they used during the State of the Union Address?
So he's disappeared because I guess nothing's really happening in America.
In the meantime, this is what Haberman has to say about President Trump and the debate.
Cut five.
Do you know, in past debates, did he do mock debates?
I mean, did he have somebody playing somebody else?
Well, Chris Christie, I mean, played a version of Hillary Clinton and he played a version of Biden in 2020 and then in 2016 before that.
So, yeah, I mean, those were... Look, Trump doesn't like...
I mean, he considers it school.
So the fact that they've gotten him to do it this way is actually pretty revealing and also speaks to the fact that I think he knows that this has to go well for him.
He has said to people multiple times that he knows that he interrupted too much in the first debate with Biden in 2020.
And having just rewatched that debate recently, it's really striking.
I mean, we all talked about it at the time, but Biden could barely get a word in edgewise and Biden was kind of smiling throughout as this was happening.
You know, the New York Times, it's that level of analysis when you have one of their leading reporters say, and Trump knows that this debate has to go well for him.
I mean, where do they find people with that mental acuity, that gargantuan collection of brain cells where they say, the presidential debate has to go well?
Maggie, what a giant, what a true Pulitzer Prize winning giant you are.
The shocking, the most shocking cut of all comes from another fake journalist who, just like a broken cock, can be now and again correct.
This is Chuck Todd.
I do believe he was a former Democrat staffer who said something nice about Donald Trump.
How shocking. Cut 10. I don't mean to simplify this but you know Donald Trump's rhetoric even
and even his sort of swagger looks more like 2016 in the campaign you covered so closely Katie
um then he looks in 2020 and in fact I was just discussing this with somebody we all know
on this call on this um on this program I'm gonna leave his name out of it because he didn't know I
was going to quote him just now but he even noted we were talking about this idea that when Trump's
losing the worst version of Trump shows up And when Trump's winning, or he thinks he's ahead, he's actually a different person, a different candidate.
I think Vaughn could probably speak to this now.
Donald Trump in Detroit, and those events he did, he was oddly loose.
He was trying to be funny, and all of this.
Trying to be funny?
He's always flipping funny.
When he goes off teleprompter and tells the story about how he dealt with the Mexican president or landing in Iraq with the lights off Air Force One.
But it's interesting.
Chuck Todd has said President Trump got his swagger back recently.
I thought he was not able to put sentences together.
I thought he has mental issues.
He's off the reservation.
What are they going to do to Chuck Todd?
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It is after the fall of Saigon, perhaps one of the most tragic Unnecessary and awful stains on America.
And that is the surrender of Afghanistan to the fundamentalists, to the Taliban, to those who host organizations like Al-Qaeda and ISIS.
I was in Afghanistan in 2006 and the idea that all the blood that was spilt The lives that were lost were for naught and on the day of our surrender 13 marines, corpsmen and an army sergeant were murdered by ISIS.
What does it mean today?
What is the future hold for that region?
And why does it matter to America?
I am honored to have with us a man who was responsible for the Afghan Armed Forces, a man who is fighting for the future of his nation and the relations between America and Kabul, Lieutenant General Sami Sadat Saminullah Khan.
Welcome to America First!
Thank you, Dr. Gurkha.
It's an honor and a privilege to join your show today.
You are the head of an organization I was honored to meet with recently called Afghanistan the United Front.
It's afghanistanunitedfront.org.
Would you tell for us first what the anniversary in September means to you and the Afghans who worked with America?
We are coming up on the September anniversary of the betrayal as far as I'm concerned.
What does it mean to you and the people who served under you?
Thank you, Dr. Gurka.
September brings us a lot of dark memories from September 11 up until.
Unfortunately, the fall of Afghanistan and the withdrawal of the U.S.
forces.
There is a lot of, it is a very difficult month personally and collectively for our nation in Afghanistan, and I'm sure it's the same for many in America.
However, this year's anniversary, which will unfortunately mark the third year of the Taliban rule in Afghanistan, we decided to stop mourning And instead, we're holding an event that will mark a new beginning for us.
And we are beginning our conquest to go back and free our country.
So this August and this September, we're holding events on how to foster and manifest a new partnership between America and Afghanistan that will enable the Afghans to go back and defeat the Taliban and free Afghanistan from the Taliban's tyranny.
Tell us a little bit about what has happened in the years since Biden betrayed the people of Afghanistan.
What have the Taliban done?
What is the influence of Iran?
Does Afghanistan function as a nation or is it broken up under various warlords or Taliban influences?
What is the diagnosis today of your country general?
Thank you, Dr. Gurkha.
So three fundamental issues rose from the fall of Afghanistan.
The first one was return of international terrorism into Afghanistan, especially Al-Qaeda and ISIS.
Many of ISIS members were in prisons.
They were released by the Taliban and many other international organizations like Boko
Haram, Al-Shabaab, Al-Qaeda in Indian subcontinent, and so on and so on, returned to Afghanistan.
Today, as I speak to you, there is around 40,000 Al-Qaeda members training or in ready
units that are ready to be deployed across the world.
And these are not Afghans.
These are from India, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, other countries in Africa like Libya, Egypt.
There's Europeans amongst them as well that they are training and have been traveling to Afghanistan to prepare for overseas The second major issue was a humanitarian catastrophe of five million Afghans left Afghanistan in the last three years.
There has been thousands and thousands of women and men being prisoned.
Today, as I speak to you, there is 30,000 ANDSF members in Taliban prison, 10,000 Afghan security forces have been killed, and around 80,000 Afghan women, the activists, journalists, Judges, prosecutors, and media workers have been thrown
into the Taliban prison, with many of them suffering unspeakable horror and abuses at the
hand of the Taliban.
The third matter really is more geopolitical matter.
Literally, the Chinese government moved in to fill the vacuum of international presence, and they have contracted around $20 billion worth of mining of latium, uranium, copper, iron ore, gas and oil, and so on and so forth.
So, America's largest strategic adversary now has a stranglehold on the resources of
Afghanistan?
Yes, Dr. Gurkha.
So, these resources, as I understand them, you understand, are being used in development
of satellite, supersonic rockets, and other engines and machines that will then be used
against the United States in some shape or form of strategic competition with the U.S.
The other thing also is... Hold on, hold on.
We're up against a break.
I want to hear your continued analysis and especially what could happen if, God willing, we re-elect President Trump.
What happens then in Afghanistan?
We talked to the chairman of the Afghanistan United Front, Lieutenant General Sami
Sadat. Follow him at Sayed Sami Sadat on Twitter and the website is AfghanistanUnitedFront.org.
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But first, I have a few more questions for our very special guest, the former commander of Afghanistan's armed forces, the chairman of the Afghanistan United Front today, Lieutenant General Sami Sadat.
Sami Nullah Khan, Lieutenant General Sadat, will you explain how the system we put in place worked?
The last 18 months of the Trump administration, we had a relatively small footprint, we had some special forces guys to help you out, and there was no loss of life amongst US troops.
That scenario, that formula seemed to work, and when Biden left, it was chaos.
Absolutely.
So not only did it work, but actually it allowed us to take the initiative against the enemy.
When this new arrangement came, we not only halted the Taliban advances, but remember,
we took back 25 districts from the Taliban, and the Afghan army was advancing relatively
very well after we found out that the Taliban were deliberately, you know, not abiding by
the Doha agreement.
So we went after them, and we had a lot of success.
And President Trump not only allowed 2,500 special forces, but also allowed them to be
trigger pullers, meaning that they could call in the air support, they can support the Afghan
forces, but also allow the CIA to have a robust presence across different, you know, places
in Afghanistan in support of the Afghan forces.
So we, the Afghans, took the leadership, and the Americans stayed behind us in form of
support, strategic advisory and equipment support and all that.
And it worked.
It worked very well up until President Biden issued the Go To Zero order.
Not only did he issue that order, but actually Secretary Blinken, and it's public news now, you can find it on the internet, he wrote a letter to President Ghani to resign, and deliberately he would send his envoy, send his people around to the opposition of
the Afghan government in order to create a disbalance and hurt the coherence and our
national coherence to make us weak against the Taliban.
What we see is a man-made disaster, and it's a Biden-made disaster.
It could have been avoided.
It absolutely should have been avoided.
Unfortunately, not only did he not help, but actually he went behind our back and stabbed
us while we were moving.
Not allowed to take the fight back to our enemy.
Look, Dr. Gurkha, today the world is in unsafe In every single sector and by any measure of any metrics you want to measure the global security today between now and President Trump's time, it has degraded to an unspeakable level and there is no recovery plan.
And our hope is that President Trump can come back and he could put some kind of a, you know, recovery plan to recover from whatever The world can today.
And you mentioned about the future.
I think in this great disaster also comes great opportunities as the world is going into this strategic competition, the rise of terrorism and all that.
Afghanistan is one of the most significant locations in today's world that could play a vital role in stability of the world and bringing the terrorism back to their knees
and actually putting the evil powers back in their places by helping Afghanistan to have a
responsible government, restarting partnerships, some kind of partnership with America. This
is good for us. This is good for our region. And this is good for the world. I think this is
possible. We are definitely ready to restart a new partnership with America. We have learned
our lessons as well. And we will, I'm pretty sure together we could do a significantly better
job in Southeast Asia.
Let me just make the point.
It... it... it...
It's clear that you and your colleagues don't want America to fight for you, but you want to be our ally and our partner.
And I want to thank you in front of millions of Americans for fighting with us to destroy organizations like Al-Qaeda and ISIS, and we need you back.
Lieutenant General Sami Sadat, Chairman of the Afghanistan United Front.
Please follow him and his colleagues at AfghanistanUnitedFront.org.
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They say Iowa has an important caucus.
Somebody has been listening to the show and been quite motivated to do something about it.
Let's go to your calls.
Glenn in Iowa, line one.
Hello, Dr. G. So tell us, what did you do after you heard my show?
What was your big plan?
And what did you do also?
What did you convince your wife to do recently?
Well, first off, we decided to go to an Iowa caucus.
We've always voted, but we've never been to a caucus.
So we went to the caucus, and they were asking for volunteers to become county precinct committee members.
So I volunteered, and I went to the county caucus and tried and worked on our plank and helped vote in our plank that we submitted.
And then we were driving down the road one day, and I said to my wife, she had a trip planned to somewhere warm.
It might have been Mexico or somewhere south for January in Iowa, which is kind of cold.
And I said, wouldn't you rather go to Alaska?
And we canceled our Mexico trip and we're heading to Alaska with Dr. G and Katie.
So we'll see you on Friday.
We will be there.
We're flying in Friday morning.
Fabulous.
Have you ever been to Alaska before, Glenn?
I have not.
Me neither.
The two of us.
We will find out what it's like together.
So tell me, what was it like to go to your first caucus?
Uh, well, we caucused for Trump.
It was, uh, very interesting, but very overwhelming Trump in our, in our, uh, little town, uh, town of about 1,500 people.
And it was probably 75, 80% Trump and a few, a few DeSantis' and a few, uh, oh, what's her name?
That's not in there anymore.
Oh, you're talking about Nikki Haley.
Nikki, yeah, Nikki's, but.
But yeah, it was interesting.
I'd never been to one.
All right, Glenn, give me your wife's first name.
My wife is Amy.
Amy, all right.
With a Y?
Yes.
Are you Glenn with one and or two?
All right, for convincing her to come on the cruise, I will be hand-carrying a signed copy dedicated to Glenn and Amy of Katie's new book, and you're going to get to meet her as well.
That's what we like to hear!
They heard the battle cry, they stepped up, and they got politically engaged.
God bless you, Glenn and Amy.
I'll see you soon.
Let's go to John in Florida, line two.
Yes, hello.
How are you today, Dr. Walker?
Good.
What's your comment?
What's your question?
Well, I believe that Obama almost doubled the number of federal agencies during his administrations.
I don't think so.
There were already quite a few hundred federal agencies, but he got government bigger, that's for sure.
But anyway, at it.
But I would suggest that maybe we check every agency for excess funds that they hold in
their accounts and take those funds and pull them back down and put them in the general
fund for the country.
Well, I just want to slash the budget.
My wife and I have already done the math.
We think we can halve the size of the bureaucracy and still keep America safe.
So absolutely, John, couldn't agree more.
We have to do one more cut before we end this hour.
Josh Hawley.
eviscerated one of Fauci's lackeys who said that COVID could never have come from a lab.
We need more of this on Capitol Hill. Senator Josh Hawley with the disgraced Dr. Robert Gary.
You said at the time that definitively SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct.
Is not a laboratory construct.
Of course, our own government, key agencies have concluded otherwise.
And on the basis of this, Dr. Fauci and others cited this piece and went out to use it to mobilize our own government to censor people who ask questions about it.
People lost their jobs because of this.
They lost their jobs, they lost their standing, they were kicked off Facebook, they were kicked off Twitter.
Do you regret being part of this effort, this propaganda effort?
Sir, I was simply just writing a paper about our scientific opinions about where this virus came from.
Oh no, you weren't.
You said in an email that we now have, that you tried to withhold, but that we have, February 2nd, 2020, you wrote, I really can't think of a plausible natural scenario.
Where you can get from the bat virus, or one very similar to it, to this.
I'm quoting you.
I just can't figure out how this gets accomplished in nature.
It's stunning.
Of course, in the lab, it would be easy.
Well, of course.
And I actually figured it out.
That's the whole point of that.
You figured it out?
You wrote this while you were writing your propaganda piece?
I wrote that somewhere around February 2nd.
Yeah, it was exactly February 2nd.
And you testified that you were writing your proximal origin paper in early February.
So you're saying that, what, did it come to you overnight?
There was new data that came in.
Like a revelation from God.
No.
Overnight you concluded.
It's simply the scientific method.
I got it.
I got it.
I've figured it out.
I've figured it out.
And now I can definitively rule out.
It's amazing.
Is that what happened?
It's just the scientific method.
Oh, it's just science.
Oh, it's the scientific method.
That happened at lightning speed.
And then was used to propagandize and lie to and shut down.
For those of you who are simply listening on radio, Eric, the creepiest thing about that is that guy who lied in Nature magazine saying it can't be man-made, can't be from the lab, and that was used to shut down scientists and average Americans.
He's grinning, he's smiling through that whole interchange.
Why is he smiling, Eric?
He even heard chuckling at one point.
I think it's because he knows that at the end of the day the media is going to run cover for this, you know, other than shows like ours here.
You know, no one's going to be, that clip's not going to go viral of Josh Hawley just absolutely grilling him.
In front of the cameras.
He knows that this will be swept under the rug and no one's gonna know the name Robert Gary and he'll get away with it just like Fauci got away with it and they all got away with the hoax that led to the disaster that the lockdowns were.
And that man, quote-unquote, has a prestigious position at Tulane University.
Mark his name, Dr. Robert Gary, the co-author of the seminal article in Nature.
Oh, COVID!
Totally natural!
Nothing to do with the lab!
A pangolin, a bat, an ocelot, that's where it came from.
Hmm.
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What happens if, God willing, we do our part and we win?
The good guys win and President Trump is inaugurated January 20th next year.
What do we do about the FBI, the DOJ, the CIA, the corrupt judges across the nation?
We're going to ask two of your favorites next here on the one-on-one.
Joe DeGeneva and Victoria Tunsing.
I did it again.
I'm doing complete Bidens.
What did I say earlier?
I announced the death today of Donald Sutherland.
And what did I say, Eric?
You accidentally said the name of another beloved actor with the first name Donald.
Donald Pleasance.
Oh my gosh.
Truly, truly shocking.
Both great actors.
Donald Pleasence, the best Ernst Stavro Blofeld out there from the Bond movies.
Also the Halloween movies.
Let's cheer ourselves up before we talk about serious things.
It's hard, it's really hard.
Who is the dumbest person on mainstream media?
There's a lot to choose from.
In Congress, there's many to choose from.
In the mainstream lying legacy media.
At the top, probably in the top three, we've got to have Anna Navarro.
And the best thing from this clip, on her commentary of a Fox poll, a fake Fox poll, is her last sentence, cut for.
In this poll today, the top two issues in this Fox News poll, Anna, say that voters to voters are the future of American democracy and the economy.
Both of them.
Yeah, I don't know why polls think and why some strategists think that the American public isn't capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time, of worrying about their pocketbook issues and worrying about democracy.
And I don't understand how you don't worry about democracy when you are constantly hearing Trump and the people around him talking about retribution And revenge.
That would worry me tremendously.
As somebody that might be the target of his revenge.
That worries me personally.
But it worries me for the country as a whole.
And look, this... I'm so glad he's no longer on trial.
That he's been convicted.
And he's no longer on trial.
Because he's now out doing rallies and speaking publicly.
And every day he says stupid things.
Eric, Ana Navarro saying somebody else said something stupid.
How does one even react to that?
The complete lack of self-awareness is what makes it so funny.
Because like you said, who is the dumbest person at CNN?
I think it's a constantly revolving title.
It's an idea.
No one person holds it.
It's like Antifa, right?
It's an idea.
It's not a real thing.
It just rotates, right?
Everyone at CNN just simultaneously says, we are all the dumbest person at CNN.
We are all the NPCs and the dumbest people.
And then this thing that they're going to come after her.
How often was she arrested when we were in the White House, Eric?
Zero.
How many journalists did we arrest?
The number is none, right?
As much as they'd have us believe, it was zero.
Yeah, maybe they should ask Peter Navarro about the politicization of the judiciary and the FBI.
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Next up, what do we do if, God willing, we win?
We'll ask two of the bravest fighters out there.
you you
Their reign will be over.
And they know it.
And America will be a free nation once again.
We're not a free nation right now.
We don't have free press.
We don't have free anything.
In 2016, I declared, I am your voice.
Today, I add, I am your warrior.
I am your justice.
And for those who have been wronged and betrayed, I am your retribution.
I am your retribution.
Not gonna let this happen.
Do you want to understand why that man, my former boss, the 45th, and God willing if we do our part, the 47th President of the United States, is facing over a hundred, no, over 750 years in prison?
Because of that soundbite.
It's very easy, simply because of what he said from the stage at CPAC.
I am your retribution.
Why?
Because we have a judicial system, an intelligence community, a federal police force that is out of control and is the political right arm of an unaccountable establishment and a bureaucracy that will target you If you dare to politically disagree with them, or if you are a threat to their power center and to their sinecures.
None understand that better than our next guests, firm favorites of millions of our listeners across the nation, an indefatigable power couple who never give up, never give in, and fight corruption wherever they see it.
And it's always a delight to have them back on the show.
A special one-on-one, or is it one-on-two, with Victoria Tunsing and Jodha Jennefer.
Welcome, friends.
Welcome.
Great to be back.
Good to see you again.
Now, I have a little bone to pick with you, Mr. DeGenova, because as I was coming in... Oh, good.
A bone, yes, a rather full marrow bone, who, as I was coming into the show today, my executive producer, we just call him Mr. G, said, Joe wants to know the topics for our interview.
I said, what do you mean?
I've known these people for years, the topics for... I don't even tell President Trump what we're going to discuss!
And thus I responded to him, I texted him, tell Joe I want to discuss his favorite Italian dishes.
So let's begin with that.
Joe DiGenova, if you could only have one Italian dish for the rest of your life, what would it be?
Gnocchi.
Ah, the little potato dumplings.
Interesting, interesting.
Victoria, what is your choice for last supper?
What would you choose?
Oh, I'm not Italian.
I know, but you're married to an Italian, so tough!
What would you choose?
Right, but listen, I have a confession to make.
It's because of me that Joe texted that message.
Ah, so I'm going to pick a bone with you.
Why on earth would you ask me what we wish to discuss?
Do you not trust me after all these years, Victoria Tunsing?
Of course I do.
But I wanted to text you that because I had been chief counsel for the Senate Intelligence Committee.
No, no, no.
Is that true?
Did you work for Barry Goldwater?
Yeah.
And I wanted to discuss all the brouhaha over the House Intelligence Committee.
And then we didn't hear back from Jeff, so I didn't do it.
All right, we shall discuss that.
We shall discuss that, because that's indeed where you worked.
And, well, that's quite shocking.
You've kind of stolen my thunder for my first question.
So you have an incredible perch from Wentz to analyze.
What we have sunken to as a nation, because you have that experience at the highest level in the Senate, Victoria.
And then, Joe, as U.S.
Attorney for the District, you understand the executive.
You understand, especially in that position working with Congress, working with the then Speaker of the House, you understand the interplay between those two branches.
And then, of course, we have all that's happened.
With the assault on the Supreme Court of late, with now two conservative justices being attacked incessantly, clearly for political reasons, Thomas and Alito.
So let's start with a diagnosis, if you'll permit me.
Can you give us your diagnostic assessment of where the Republic stands in terms of the checks and balances and the separation of powers, because it seems to me as if we just have an executive that does whatever it wishes to do.
We have an attorney general who's in contempt of Congress and seems to be completely immune.
So, Joe, give us your assessment from all your years of understanding how this city works.
But we are at a precipice.
We're on the edge.
This next election is vital to restore balance To restore literally the rule of law because it's been completely denigrated by the Biden administration and the Justice Department and the Democratic prosecutors around the country.
I don't think we have to repeat the litany of sins against former President Trump and the abuse of the legal process of this country.
And the ignoring that by most people in politics, including many Republicans, Donald Trump must win on November the 5th.
If he doesn't win, we are in for a very long period of disconcert.
If Biden wins, he will never finish his term.
Hang on, hang on.
Brett, we're losing you for a second.
If Biden is re-elected, we won't use the word wins, but if he's re-elected, carry on your sentence, Joe.
If Biden is re-elected.
We're going to have a situation that he will not complete his term.
There's no doubt about that.
He's barely going to be able to make it to the election.
When that happens, we end up with Kamala Harris and the disaster that befalls the country with someone who is that ignorant, that out of touch and that inarticulate.
Very, very dangerous situation.
Seb, I'd just like to add something to that, because I think people ought to know how it used to be up until Joe Biden.
And that is, after Trump was elected, I was talking to people in the Justice Department, and I said, well, are you going to investigate Hillary?
Because, of course, the Clinton Foundation was a walking indictment, and she had destroyed multiple thousands of emails that had been subpoenaed, both criminal offenses.
And they said, no, we aren't, because that would not be appropriate.
Now, that has all gone by the wayside.
That's no longer how we operate in Washington.
And I don't believe in making up crimes.
This was done to Donald Trump.
But certainly, clearly, there are leftover crimes if Trump is elected to the presidency.
For example, the FARA violation, that would be against both Joe Biden and Hunter, because they—in Ukraine, there was a Foreign Agents Registration Act.
He lobbied his father to get Shokin fired, and he never registered.
The Democrats have never had a problem using that made-up crime against all of us.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm just making down a making a list of all the things that you've made me remember.
I want to ask you questions about with regards to, God willing, if he does win, what should happen and legally what can happen after that.
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Can you come in with the sacrifice audio from the president?
And then you have the other thing that maybe is even more disrespectful is the gag corner.
Where I can't basically, I have to watch every word I tell you people.
You ask me a question, a simple question, I'd like to give it, but I can't talk about it.
Because this judge has given me a gag order and said you'll go to jail if you violate it.
And frankly, you know what?
Our Constitution is much more important than jail.
It's not even close.
I'll do that sacrifice any day.
I'll do that sacrifice any day.
I'm just a common old garden immigrant to America.
A legal one, by the way.
I waited my time.
I got in line.
I filled out the forms.
I paid my dues.
I took a test.
I'll tell you about that another day.
And then, with a raised hand, I took an oath of allegiance to the U.S.
Constitution.
I never thought I'd hear the day that a former president, a likely future president, the leader of the opposition, would have to say in public from outside a dingy courtroom in Manhattan, as I was there with him as well, that he's prepared to go to prison because the Constitution is more important than his freedom.
Joe, Victoria, you were born in America.
Can you help me, an immigrant, understand what we just heard?
Well, I think it's important.
Victoria, by the way, was born in the Panama Canal zone during other times.
So can she be the president or not?
This is the question.
John McCain was born there as well.
Correct.
John McCain was born there as well.
Trick question.
I think what it shows me is that patriotism is not popular anymore.
Things are happening in this country that have never happened before.
And Donald Trump will be responsible for a revitalization of belief in America, patriotism,
the American way, the American flag, and belief in our country.
Joe Biden has done more to destroy the notion of allegiance to the country than any president in our time.
He's even worse than Barack Obama, who didn't know what he believed in.
He just knew that he was a victim as president of the United States, if you can figure that out.
But the bottom line is, Trump stands for rejuvenation and revitalization of the spirit of America, another reason why he has to be elected.
Victoria, hearing your reaction to that clip?
Well, I'm right with Joe.
I mean, Donald Trump has made it just wonderful to be patriotic.
and there are Democratic presidents, have not.
They look at it as you're waving the American flag, like, even upside down, like Sam Alito's
wife did, Martha Ann.
Because somebody did that on January 6th.
You can never do that again.
You can never wave the American flag upside down.
You can't wave certain church flags, according to the left, because that means you're a Christian
and you believe in Christianity.
So we've got to take the country back, as Joe says, and it has to be with the Trump
election because if Biden continues.
We're down the bad pathway.
Now, you are the legal mavens.
I'm just a layman and observer, although I did work for President Trump in his administration.
But my expectation on the 11th, three days before the GOP convention, Is that this judge, who unbelievably is also supervising three other Trump-related cases beyond any mathematical, you know, probability, that he will meet out in the sentencing a custodial sentence for the leader of the opposition, or at least house arrest at Mar-a-Lago so he can't campaign, given what I witnessed
Well, I think he's going to do two things.
He's going to want to appear to be creative, but he won't be able to help himself.
And he will be vindictive and demeaning.
And he will try to humiliate the former president.
I think he's going to give him a house arrest.
Probably at Mar-a-Lago, which is where the president does live.
That's his residence, in order to restrain him.
I think that that will lead to two things, an immediate appeal directly to the United States Supreme Court to intervene, and also the filing, if that doesn't work, of a federal writ of habeas corpus in Manhattan to stop it.
Uh, I think that, uh, Merchant is vindictive.
Would you explain that, that fancy Latin phrase, a writ of habeas corpus, Joe?
It means give up the body.
Right, but what is it?
I know that.
I did study Latin, but what does it mean in this context?
It means that you ask a federal court to free you from the constraints that have been placed upon you by the judge, so that you can travel.
You can file a writ of habeas corpus.
And notice Joe said federal court, because we have no faith in the New York legal system.
Are there examples where somebody skipped over the next level of appeal and said, OK, no, I'm going straight to the highest court?
There are some rare instances of it.
Not many that anyone can cite.
However, It is quite obvious that in order to get relief so he can campaign, he cannot wait for the traditional appeal process because he will have already been victimized by both the gag order and the physical restraint of staying under house arrest.
And I think that he will get relief if he goes to federal court.
I can't imagine that a federal court wouldn't grant relief under these circumstances for a first offender, nonviolent crime, Yes, I think that'll be the very least.
He's going to do something like that.
He's not going to send him to Rikers.
He's going to do something that he thinks is very clever.
And I think that Joe's right.
We've talked about it.
But that means that Trump right away has to appeal it to federal court.
We talked to Victoria Tunsing and Joe DeGeneva.
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Come in with Ron Johnson.
What Speaker Johnson now is pursuing is civil contempt.
So he'll go to court and try and get a court, remember the third branch, to enforce their subpoena.
There's actually a third type of contempt that Congress has used in the past.
It's called inherent contempt.
And that is where you basically send the sergeant at arms to the individual who is holding Congress in contempt, and you arrest that individual until they comply with your subpoena.
Now, it has been used in the House since 1916.
In the Senate, the last time it was used was 1935.
But I think the way this is going, the way that administrations just completely blow off Congress and its constitutional responsibility and authority to enforce these things, at some point in time, some committees are going to have to start looking at inherent contempt as well.
A fascinating recommendation from Senator Johnson with my Newsmax colleague Rob Schmidt that the Speaker of the House, well, he is in control of the Capitol Police Force, or at least the Sergeant-at-Arms.
And if you're in contempt of Congress, like Biden's Attorney General is, well, why hasn't he been arrested?
Why don't they actually take law enforcement action against him?
We will unpack that momentarily with our good friends.
Victoria Dunsing and Joe DiGenova.
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All right, so it hasn't been done for a long time, Joe, but what about the Sergeant of
Arms, and what about Attorneys General who just ignore what happened in Congress last
week which wasn't an option for my White House colleagues Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro?
Bye.
Well, I think while it is an option, I don't think that Speaker Johnson is going to do it because of the controversy that would ensue of physically seizing an attorney general.
I think that by going to court, they've done the best thing that they can do to seek civil condemn because I think they're going to win.
I think that's the most important thing about the filing of the lawsuit, is they have very, very good basis for the civil contempt, and they will be able to secure a victory, I think, in relatively short period of time.
But what does that mean?
What difference does it make if they get a civil contempt?
Well, because then he'll be forced By court order, he will be forced to provide the video or the audio of the interview of the president.
Now, he'll be able to appeal any decision by the district court, but that will move relatively quickly.
Are we still, Victoria, if we don't do what the senator says, are we still falling into the trap of playing by the Marquis of Queensbury rules while the other side pulls out a bazooka?
Well, I don't think, Ron.
I know Ron.
I don't think he was really suggesting it.
He was saying what an option was.
And I think, as Joe says, it's much better to go to court and try to do it through a court procedure.
And then the attorney general would have to be violating a court order, which I don't think he can do.
And besides that, just a practical matter, what are all those FBI agents who are Merrick Garland's security?
Well, it happened at Mar-a-Lago, didn't it?
I mean, it's not like it hasn't happened before.
That's really a standoff that I don't think is...
Well, it happened at Mar-a-Lago, didn't it?
I mean, it's not like it hasn't happened before.
The Secret Service had to stand down.
They did.
They had him stand down.
But also the president wasn't at Mar-a-Lago when it happened, and if he had been there, I'm afraid there would have been something akin to a confrontation that we would not even like to think about, because they would have to decide whether or not they were going to allow the president to be touched or moved.
And I just don't think you can have that happen.
I mean, one of the reasons they did it when he wasn't there was because they wanted to avoid that.
It's about the only good thing that they did in that absolutely outrageous act was make sure that the president wasn't at Mar-a-Lago when they executed the search warrant.
Everything else they did there was absolutely outrageous and should lead to the dismissal of the case, such as laying out on the ground Yeah.
all of those so-called classified documents with fake classified document covers on them.
That's not the way they found those documents.
They laid them on the ground like that and then put them back in the boxes in the wrong
order so that they cannot certify this chain of custody now in front of the judge.
They actually brought those cover sheets with them as props that we now know.
That's how outrageous it is.
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not going to shut up MAGA.
If you look right here, you reporters, in the two and a half or three years we've been here, look at the rise of MAGA, look at the rise of Donald Trump.
If the election was held today, according to Harry Enten over at CNN, President Trump would win in a landslide.
All of this, besides the major legal issues that have to be addressed, all of this is about one thing.
This is about shutting down the MAGA movement, shutting down grassroots conservatives, shutting down President Trump.
Not only are we winning, we are going to prevail, and every number and every poll shows that.
There's nothing that can shut me up and nothing that will shut me up.
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I was strategist in the White House.
That was the chief strategist, my immediate superior, Steve Bannon.
Why is he making a political statement outside a courthouse?
Because he's being politically targeted by the Department of Justice, with the establishment now celebrating the fact that he has to go to prison, and he might even be sent to Rikers Island.
For what exactly?
Yeah, being one of the loudest MAGA voices out there.
What can Steve, what can Navarro, what can Nauta do about it?
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Are there any legal tools?
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these men and women have been put through.
And yourselves.
Well, the first thing the president would do as soon as he's sworn in is issue pardons,
a series of pardons to various people, including Bannon, Peter Navarro, the appropriate people
in January 6th, people who did not commit violent acts and others.
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all of the security clearances of all the 51 people who signed the letter about the
laptop, which in my view was an overt act and a conspiracy to subvert the election.
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issuance of that letter by the 51 people.
So, this is music to my ears, but what is the crime that you can charge people with?
Bye.
Conspiracy to deny Donald Trump his civil rights.
Conspiracy to interfere in a national election by putting into the chain of interstate commerce
false information about a material fact.
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the outcome of the election.
And so what's happened since then is.
is that Mr. Clapper and others have said they would do the same thing again, and they stand by what they did.
So every one of those people involved in signing that letter is subject to a conspiracy investigation by the Department of Justice, because every time they speak out about it, they extend a brand new setting of the statute of limitations.
Seb, I want to add something that the House of Representatives could have done and has not, because they are so feckless, and that is they could have revoked The vote for contempt for Ben and Peter.
And why haven't they done that?
Shame on them.
Explain that in more detail, because those charges that have led to Peter being incarcerated and Steve imminently, they're a function of that January 6th committee.
So could you explain what the Congress could do, please, Victoria?
Which was an illegal committee, by the way, because it didn't follow the rules of how the House had voted on a resolution and how to comprise it.
Those were violated by Nancy Pelosi, who has no problem violating the rules.
And so, the House could have taken a vote and taken back the contempt vote that they gave to Peter and Bannon and said, we're no longer holding them in contempt.
Why haven't they done that?
Do you have a theory?
Yeah, I use the word, the F-word, feckless.
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Let's focus on Capitol Hill for our last few minutes together, Victoria.
You served, you were Chief Counsel to Barry Goldwater to the Intelligence Committee of Senate.
What's going on in the Upper House with the Intelligence Committee, Victoria?
Well, when I was working in the Senate for Goldwater, it was a really bipartisan committee.
And that's because of the nature of the Senate and the rules in the Senate.
The House, not so much.
But they at least made the attempt to look like they were bipartisan for a number of years.
Yet, when Nancy Pelosi used the House Intelligence Committee and Adam Schifte to head it, to impeach President Trump It's no longer a bipartisan kind of committee.
It is partisan and mean as hell.
And then, if you had any doubt about the Intelligence Committee, which is supposed to be non-political or apolitical, the 51 people who signed the lying laptop letter took it all away.
I mean, it's forever gone and it's political.
So now the House, and good for Speaker Johnson, says, OK, we're going to get a couple of fighters on the House Intelligence Committee.
And oh, was there angst from the chairman, Mike Turner, who's a Rhino Republican?
We're losing you there for a second.
There was angst on the committee.
Carry on, Victoria.
Well, Kevin McCarthy and then another Republican member, David Joyce, who was the only Republican to not vote for Merrick Garland's contempt.
It seems to me that the rules are, when the Democrats are in charge, they can use the Intelligence Committee as a weapon.
Or any other device in the house.
But when the Republicans get in charge, they're supposed to make peace and be nice.
We can't do that anymore.
And good for Johnson for appointing two fighters to that committee and get over your angst, people.
Yeah, these things have to be fixed.
You heard Steve Bannon's prediction from that clip earlier that we have to win the White House, the House and the Senate.
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