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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: New Jersey - Biggest MAGA rally ever
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So, we're going to go ahead and get started.
Music.
You know, you can't even see the back.
There's so many people here.
There's so many people here.
Man!
Over 100,000 people.
This is supposed to be... You know, they thought they'd hit 40.
So they more than doubled it.
But you can't even see the end.
I wish we didn't have the press here.
I wish we moved them the hell back so they'd have... Because they can't see in the back.
You know, I always tell the press, turn your cameras around to show the audience, okay?
They never do it.
Look.
Look.
Fake news.
They never do it.
They never do it!
They never ever do it.
Why?
Absolutely stunning.
And, um... Well, let's just show some footage of the campaign rally.
In this New Jersey location.
This isn't Texas.
This isn't some MAGA country.
Wildwood, New Jersey.
We've been talking about it with our team today.
Oh, greetings!
Welcome, dear friends.
It's great to be back with you.
I can't remember a Trump rally with 100,000 people.
100,000 people.
I wasn't there.
I could have been.
But that's okay, because we had friends there.
We had colleagues there.
One of them is with us right now.
Chris de Gaulle, the man who keeps Philly sane every morning.
Welcome, dear friend.
Is it true that you were at that incredible event?
Yes, I was.
I was honored to be there, as a matter of fact.
Even, Seb, now I know this is no hill for a stepper for you, because you're Mr. Mar-a-Lago, but I was invited as a special guest, I'll have you know.
Ooh!
But you look like you've got a bit of sun.
Did they not have a tent for you to sit under?
I mean, you've got a nice color to you today, Chris.
Also against white.
But, you know, I was out in the sun.
I mean, it was, you know, from 11 to, well, sundown is how long I was out in the sun enjoying it, except for the brief moment I got back and shook the hand of the big guy, which I'll tell you more about if you want to know.
I do, I do.
But first, tell us about, because I've been at Trump rallies, but nothing like that.
What was the atmosphere like?
Just walk us through, for those who've never been to one of these, what was the biggest Trump rally like, Christagal?
This was special, and I have been to a couple myself, and I will tell you that there was something so special about this because while he'd come to the town of Wildwood before, this was so special because it was outdoors on the beach.
He's never done anything like this on the beach, and it was, Seb, when I tell you it was as though God himself had made the day perfect, That's what it felt like.
It was rainy and cold Friday.
It was rainy and cold Sunday.
But Saturday morning, it was blue sky and sun and absolutely gorgeous.
There was a light breeze off the ocean water, about 70 degrees.
It was just perfect.
And people were in such good spirits.
Music was playing.
People were dancing.
They showed up.
Ten o'clock, maybe in the morning, and I gotta tell you, they stuck around well after he got back on his plane and flew away.
People didn't want to leave that beach, Seb.
It was so much fun.
Let me, for a second, we can try and be apolitical, but I'm just trying to imagine, would a Biden run, because I love the energy.
You go to these events.
And it's like a family reunion, but only with the relatives you really like.
I can't imagine a Biden rally where everybody is smiling and happy for hours as they're waving, Chris!
And in fact, they're trying hard today to spin this as though, well, the only thing they could do was, Trump praises Hannibal Lecter.
That's seriously a CNN headline today.
And you know how these go.
He's joking.
He's making a joke about a criminal.
Hang on, hang on.
You mean he wasn't serious about liking a fictional character who is a cannibal?
What?
Are you saying CNN is lying about President Trump praising a cannibal?
I'm shocked, Chris!
Yeah, no, that was their honest-to-goodness Chiron headline this morning.
That's the best they could do.
Trump praises Hannibal Lecter.
And so when I corrected it, and I responded to this on X this morning, all the left, all the haters started coming out of the woodwork.
Well, why is he even talking about that anyway?
What's that have to do with anything?
He's insane.
He's just rambling.
And I said, you are the most humorless, Bitter, angry people.
He was having fun.
We were joking and laughing.
I'm sorry I'm going to flex here because he did call me Mr. Mar-a-Lago.
When I was at Mar-a-Lago the last time, he used this line.
It was a small crowd of us and he said, they're letting out the worst of their criminals In our hemisphere, to flood our country, that's why the crime rate in Venezuela has dropped 50-60% because they're all coming here.
People who are scarier than Hannibal Lecter!
It's easy to understand if you actually listen to it in context, but of course they don't do that.
And can I just tell you that for a guy that would seem to have the weight of the world on his shoulders, and I know you can attest to this, I was stunned at how much fun he was having, how effervescent he was, how friendly he was.
And you know something that was really cool?
I was sitting next to a law enforcement official, retired for 25 years after serving as a police chief in the community there.
She gave a speech pre-Trump speech, two hours before he even took the stage.
He watches those pre-speech speeches on the plane.
And when he came out and spoke, he was kind of surveying the crowd.
He saw her, recognized her from watching her on the plane, pointed to her and said, that was a fantastic speech, you did a great job.
And I tell that story because anecdotally, these are the things, these are the small ways that Donald Trump notices people.
He loves people.
And he likes being around people.
I've got to tell you a story about that.
I've got to tell you a story about that in a second.
We've got the CNN Chiron.
Let's put it up.
This is actually today.
Trump praises Hannibal Lecter.
These people, the desperation knows no bounds.
You mentioned law enforcement.
Let's put up the amazing men in blue who protected us for our Cigar event at the Cigar Republic in Concha Hawkins.
Sergeant Murray and his colleague, thank you guys.
Was that last week?
Oh my gosh, that's crazy.
Yeah, just last week.
Wasn't that amazing?
Let me tell you a story about how he pays attention, because people won't believe.
What do you mean?
He was watching the rally on Trump Force One two hours before he arrived?
Yeah, he was actually.
So I traveled to Singapore for the Kim summit, right?
The North Korea Trump summit.
And I'd left the administration two years prior, but Hannity was filming from Singapore and he brought me, Daniel Hoffman and Sarah Carter for the whole week to comment on this historic summit.
And we're on the roof of the hotel, it is blazing hot, and we're commenting on the meeting, the signing, the peace accord.
And then I've done this hit with Hannity and I go back to my room to just, like, get some AC.
And I see my phone, and when your phone rings 2-1-2, but nothing else, you better pick it up.
If it just says the area code for DC, that's the White House.
So I'm in Singapore, and I pick up the phone.
We have a call for you from the President, but...
But the president's over there.
What?
Uh, OK.
And he said, he's literally just walked out of the ballroom with Kim and says, Seb, Seb, that hit on Hannity, that was great.
What?
He's like, what?
He's like, are you busy?
Don't you have better things to do than to call me up?
That hit was great, Seb.
People don't believe this stuff.
The attention to detail, the humanity of the man.
Oh, my gosh.
All right, Chris, thank you.
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He is, of course, the former Secretary for Veterans Affairs, my Newsmax colleague, distinguished fellow at the American Affairs Policy Institute, Secretary Robert Wilkie.
Welcome back in studio.
You know, looking at those forlorn faces on CNN, it reminds me of one of my favorite moments in my life.
I was still a college student, and the one man that the press hated more than Ronald Reagan was my future.
Boss, Jesse Helms, from North Carolina.
And on election night in 1984, what was then the most expensive Senate race in history, Helms was late to the victory rally.
And he looked at the audience and he said, Ladies and gentlemen, I apologize for being late, but I have been at home watching the grieving face of Dan Rather.
Oh, he actually said that?
We need more of that.
rather and the place went crazy in Raleigh back we need more of that I mean
that's President Trump style but we need more humor don't we? Yeah we do and and
Helms had been the editor of the largest newspaper in the state at one time and
then he he ran the largest TV station in North Carolina so he knew all the news
and he He knew how to push the buttons.
It was fascinating.
But the grieving face of Dan Rather, I'll never forget.
That's a great line.
We have so much to discuss.
If we could get to all of it in this hour.
Will you indulge me with a clip I found on social media that is quite shocking because it's from a guy who I've seen more and more recently.
He's a professor at UC Berkeley and at the Stern School of NYU which is that's why it's interesting where it's coming from.
His name is Scott Galloway and I don't know how he got away with saying what he did but let's talk about The numbers coming out of the war in Israel, and put them into correct context, and let's listen to Professor Scott Galloway on All Places MSNBC.
Play cut.
Here's some more numbers.
2,200 American servicemen killed at Pearl Harbor.
We go on to kill 3.5 million Japanese, including 100,000 in one night.
2,800 Americans in 9-11.
We go on to kill 400,000 people in Afghanistan and Iraq.
We weren't accused of genocide.
You had, if Mexico had elected a jihadist cartel to run their country and then they incurred into Texas, and on a per capita basis killed 35,000 people of the population of the University of Texas, and on the way back took the freshman class at SMU hostage and hid them under tunnels, What would we do?
It'd be the great Sonora radioactive parking lot.
But Jews are not allowed, and Israel is not allowed to prosecute a war.
And they are prosecuting a war more humanely than we have done.
The ratio of combatants to civilians, of civilian death to combatant mortality, is lower than it was in Mosul, lower than it was in Japan, lower than it was in Germany.
So, there's just a different standard for Jews in Israel when it comes to prosecuting a war.
They're allowed to fight back to a truce, But unlike America or any other Western nation that has
attacked this viciously, they're not allowed to win a war.
It's a double standard.
Well, he won't be asked back.
I think he won't be the favorite guest of the week.
You know, pick up on his point. I've looked at some of the statistics that this White House has been using.
And of course they're using Hamas statistics.
And if you look at the daily progression of the reporting coming out of Hamas, you'll see that on four or five days in a row, only women were killed.
And four or five days in a row, only children were killed.
This is American technology.
Our JDAMs can identify the gender of the targets.
Absolutely.
And that is what we're dealing with here.
One other thing I'll say to him, Mexico did invade in 1916.
And of all people, Woodrow Wilson said, enough of that.
They were burning towns along the New Mexico-Texas border, Pancho Villa.
And the next thing the Mexican government knew, General Pershing and two divisions of the United States Army were in northern Mexico, including his young aide, George S. Patton Jr.
And just to read this headline from, this is from Fox News.
What a surprise, Mr. Secretary.
The United Nations revised the Gaza death toll.
50 percent, 50 less women and children were killed than reported.
I mean, the Health Ministry of Gaza is run by Hamas, which executed the October 7th attacks.
Why does Israel get such different treatment?
Well, we should even stop using the term antisemitism.
It's become banal in the society.
I would just use the term Jew-hatred.
There has always been this, particularly in Europe, this underlying current of hatred for the Jewish people.
I would argue that the UN would go out of existence if Israel didn't exist.
I think 80% of the deliberations in the UN Human Rights Council deal with Israel.
And the UN again debased itself last week by the General Assembly voting to include Hamas as a sitting member of the General Assembly.
This is ancient hatred and it is a double standard.
I was hosting guests last night from the UK and one of them reported something that someone had said to him.
Antisemitism of this scale always presages something very, very bad.
Do you have that expectation?
Well, Israel is always the canary in the coal mine.
And let's talk about the political dimension of this with the current Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
People forget, even people on our side, Barack Obama spent eight years trying to destroy this man.
Actually, let's remind people, sending members of his campaign staff to Israel to help strategize with the opposition.
So he's the incumbent president!
And funded by the State Department.
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Yeah, you can put the mics up.
And he got, what's that, the last BB cut?
That was great.
Do you remember the last BB cut we had?
You can put the mics up.
Western Civilization.
And he got it.
What's that, the last BB cut?
That was great.
Do you remember the last BB cut we had?
That no one will stop us?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
After Biden blocked the weapons.
Friday or Thursday.
Let's play that.
How was the ROTC?
Oh, it was wonderful.
But First time in my life I've heard parents in southeastern North Carolina saying, we're not sure about this anymore.
Not sure about?
Serving.
That's not good.
172 youngsters.
Now you would expect when you've got Fort Bragg and then you're, you know, you're 90 minutes away from Camp Lejeune and Cherry Point.
Wow.
That's 40% of the entire Marine Corps on North Carolina Highway 24.
Coming with six... Oh, actually, it's a minute five.
Play it for me quickly.
Eighty years ago, in the Holocaust, the Jewish people were totally defenseless against those who sought our destruction.
No nation came to our aid.
Today, we again confront enemies bent on our destruction.
I say to the leaders of the world, no amount of pressure, No decision by any international forum will stop Israel from defending itself.
As the Prime Minister of Israel, the one and only Jewish state, I pledge here today, from Jerusalem, on this Holocaust Remembrance Day, if Israel is forced to stand alone, Israel will stand alone.
But we know we're not alone.
Because countless decent people around the world support our just cause.
And I say to you, we will defeat our genocidal enemies.
Never again is now.
That's a long cut, so let's come in with that on D.
And then here, let's come in with...
Come in with Blinken.
Come in with nine.
No, actually, I'll tee up nine, but come in with Bernie.
Come in with six, I'll do my pillow, then I'll tee up Bernie, and then I'll go to the secretary.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, so the president's gonna speak soon.
I'm sure Jeff can hear us.
Jeff, just keep an eye on the president in Manhattan.
I'll be right back.
I'm sorry.
The reality is, as I think any objective observer knows, Israel has broken international law, it has broken American law, and in my view, Israel should not be receiving another nickel in U.S.
military aid.
Unbelievable.
I understand that man, that Senator Bernie Sanders is Jewish by extraction, and he's lying about Israel, and he wants to isolate Israel.
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We are back with former Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie.
We heard from a Democrat Senator.
Now let's hear from the Secretary of State regarding the Biden administration's latest decisions.
Cut nine.
But what we've been clear about is that if Israel launches this major military operation into Rafah.
Then there are certain systems that we're not going to be supporting and supplying for that operation.
So, just a kind of leadership thing.
He always looks worried.
Blinken always looks worried.
And that is important, because our allies see that, and our enemies see that.
You have such a vast historic perspective.
Is there an analogue to what we're seeing today, where a senator of the ruling party, along with the Secretary of State, Unequivocally say, no, you're not getting our help and you shouldn't get a nickel?
No, I can't think of anything.
The closest thing that comes to that was the resignation of Cyrus Vance in the Carter administration when the president approved the Desert One operation that sadly did not work.
To rescue the hostages.
Right, and he quit and trashed the administration for using the Sounding the war toxin, instead of continuing diplomatic efforts.
But that's one man's decision.
Right.
But to have a senior senator of the same party, plus the chief diplomat... Yeah, yeah, I've never... not that combination, because if you go back to Johnson, you had Fulbright and the rest of them trashing his Vietnam policy, but Dean Rusk didn't do that, from Foggy Bottom.
No, there's nothing So what effect?
Let's go outside of politics.
What does this mean?
What are the geopolitical consequences of having a Senator Sanders and a Secretary of State say, Israel, we're going to cut you off?
Well, I'll just give you the words of an uber-moderate, someone you and I would not support for dog catcher, even though he has a conservative label and that's the current Foreign Minister of the United Kingdom, Lord Cameron, he said on Sunday, U.S.
cutting off aid to Israel is playing right into Hamas' hands.
Bingo.
And the cascading effect of this, this is what this crowd doesn't understand.
But we have to take a step back, Doctor.
Biden, Blinken, Sullivan, these are people who bloviated for 50 years in the United States Senate when nobody really cared about what they said.
They had no impact on kinetic operations.
And now they're in charge.
And you see what Bob Gates was saying about them.
Don't let these people near a button.
But look, the Muellers are watching.
Putin is watching.
We can make an argument that in the last few months Putin is moving his country.
Well, I mean, we've seen Cameron visit President Trump.
since Stalin. He just... We'll talk about that. But they sense weakness and from my
discussions and I won't name the embassies or where I've been, they're
praying that these next six months go fast and Trump comes back. Well I mean we've seen
Cameron visit President Trump, we've seen the former Prime Minister of Japan, we've
seen the active president, the incumbent president of Poland going to Trump Tower.
These people are desperate.
You'll probably see the Prime Minister of Italy as well.
They're reaching out to Trump world.
But they are voicing their concerns about American weakness, particularly in the form of this president and his Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense.
Less than six months to go.
We're talking to the Honorable Robert Wilkie, former Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Senior National Security Analyst for Newsbags.
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Get ready to go to live audio.
And then just have B-roll of President Trump outside the court running.
Okay?
While he's talking, yeah, so it's not just me, right?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Have you seen this cut from MSNBC?
Play cut 15 for the secretary.
This is MSNBC.
I agree with Sue wholeheartedly.
This was very much what I'd call a nuts and sluts defense.
There was a portion of the cross-examination where Susan Necklace was focused on the fact that Stormy Daniels now claims that she is a medium and that she communicates with dead people and has participated in a TV series about the paranormal where she explores Oh, yeah.
Unbelievable.
All right.
the fact that at one point an ex-boyfriend of hers was inhabited by spirits. She was
Full BB.
mocking Stormy Daniels. She wants the jury to think Stormy Daniels is a liar and she
is crazy.
Unbelievable.
Alright. Ah, full BB. Yeah, yeah. We did cut eleven at the top, right?
Bye.
you Yeah, okay, good.
All right.
And you want to talk about blinking again.
Blinking?
Yeah.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
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The world was in a state of crisis.
80 years ago, in the Holocaust, the Jewish people were totally defenseless against those who sought our
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No nation came to our aid.
Today, we again confront enemies bent on our destruction.
I say to the leaders of the world, no amount of pressure, No decision by any international forum will stop Israel from defending itself.
As the Prime Minister of Israel, the one and only Jewish state, I pledge here today, from Jerusalem, on this Holocaust Remembrance Day, if Israel is forced to stand alone, Israel will stand alone.
But we know we're not alone.
Because countless decent people around the world support our just cause.
And I say to you, we will defeat our genocidal enemies.
Never again is now.
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We are back with former member of the Trump cabinet, the Honorable Secretary Robert Wilkie.
Before we move on to some very interesting news that you wanted to share about Russia, let's return to Secretary Blinken.
Right.
Well, you don't hear this Secretary complain or bring the resources of U.S.
diplomacy to the fore when Bashar Assad kills 800,000 Muslims.
You don't hear the Secretary say anything when the Houthis kill and displace 450,000 Muslims.
And you don't hear him say anything to criticize Hunter Biden's friends in China when they set up a Chinese version of the Gulag just to imprison Muslims, torture and kill Muslims.
It's only when Jews are involved.
And you and I have talked before about the long campaign the Democrats have been engaged in to destroy Benjamin Netanyahu.
They used State Department funds when Obama was in office.
We just had the Senate Majority Leader demand that the people of Israel remove Netanyahu.
It's interesting.
The people who talk about election interference And threats to democracy.
And threats to democracy are interfering in the day-to-day life of the only democracy in the Middle East.
And you may be reading something that they are withholding aid to Israel whilst they're
giving aid to the actual people responsible for October 7th.
I mean, it beggars belief.
There's aid going on U.S. Navy built piers, which in and of itself is an insanity in a
war zone, but it's going to the side who's responsible for the massacre.
Remember what they did one week after October 7th.
It wasn't even five, six days after they handed 20 billion dollars to the Ayatollahs.
This is insanity.
And look, the reason, one of the reasons they hate Netanyahu is because he stands for the forces of the left who decry the glories of Western civilization.
He says, you know, our civilization began in the Judean desert 5,000 years ago, and it moved from us to Athens, to Rome, to London, and its latest manifestation, its most powerful manifestation, is the United States of America.
But we are the font of that.
But if you hate that civilization, you'll hate the other side.
That's right.
All right.
Talk to us about fascinating.
Nobody else is talking about what's happening in Moscow.
So Putin was just reelected miraculously.
He dismissed the clown Shoygu, the defense minister, who was a civil engineer, no military experience.
But it looked like he had enough medals that he actually took.
A lot of shrapnel on his chest.
Looked like he took Berlin single-handed.
And he replaced him with a fella named Andrei Bushelov, an economist.
And I think some of the clowns over at Foggy Bottom are laughing.
Oh, he replaced a civil engineer with an economist.
He's not military.
Well, first of all, Gerasimov is still in charge of day-to-day operations, the general chief of staff.
But what does this signal?
This man is an expert in mobilizing an economy.
He's the equivalent of an Albert Speer.
Yes.
And he believes in the Stalinist mobilization model.
What is this signal?
Putin is going to a war footing, war economy, the likes of which we haven't seen since the early 1950s before Stalin died.
And he's preparing for a longer fight.
First of all, he's got to deal with Ukraine, but the menace is growing to the Baltics.
The Finns are on guard.
It's good to have the Finns on board.
It is very good because now his northern flank is exposed.
But this is a serious change from a hack to someone who actually, in theory, knows how to put an economy together,
an authoritarian economy, that can produce weapons and put things in train to cause problems.
This is the kind of coverage, this is the kind of information you will not find anywhere else because, oh by the way, this isn't just a former cabinet member.
He was responsible for all of our veterans.
Prior to that, he was responsible for making sure not just one of our services, all of our services were ready for World War III.
That was his job in the Pentagon prior to that.
So, listen to what this man says.
If they've put an economist in as the Secretary of Defense, it does not bode well for the future.
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What is a topic we should talk about?
Let's just... You want to finish with Israel?
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As the canary in the coal mine.
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This would have never happened on President Trump's watch.
It didn't happen on his watch.
And if he were president, this war would have probably already been over with much less civilian suffering in Gaza because he would have backed Israel to the hilt from the beginning.
Senator Tom Carton making a statement.
I don't think it's hard to argue with.
You're more polite than I am, sir.
But when I get asked, what would President Trump do about the situation in Ukraine or Gaza?
I actually laugh when people ask me.
I say, what do you mean?
It wouldn't have happened.
Right.
We have a track record.
Four years.
They have a four-year track record.
The Iranians were in their box.
Putin was in their box.
And what happened when they tested him?
Soleimani was killed.
Trump bankrupted the country.
They had $4 billion in reserves left when President Trump left.
We were so close.
Close.
And then with the Russians, he got out of his hole in Syria once.
He was told, get back in.
He didn't.
And the mercenaries disappeared.
And he also put combat brigades in the Baltics.
Oh, and lethal aid to Ukraine.
Right.
So let me ask you the question everybody asks me in terms of when I'm doing interviews for the European media.
How long does it take for our old boss to just stabilize things?
Well, it would be pretty fast.
Because the first thing he would do is say, our defense spending is going this way.
We're getting rid of all the nonsense.
This is a defense department that will now be devoted to war fighting.
Not like the Secretary of the Army's number one goal is climate change.
And finding all the white supremacists in the army.
Yes.
By the way, real quick for your viewers and listeners.
I went back to all the courts martial, back to the Obama administration.
Do you know how many American soldiers were court-martialed for extremist political views since 2012?
Three?
One.
I got it wrong by a factor of 200.
One.
Well, a massive threat in an armed force of how large?
That's right, 2.1 million.
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You I just want to say, I grew up a Democrat.
And I've always been a Democrat.
Until I met this man right here.
And I'll tell you why.
He will not have to worry about nobody in my family ever voting for a Democrat again.
Jeff, who is that?
He's got a very cool voice.
He could do radio.
Who's that at the massive 100,000 person New Jersey rally for the president?
That is Lawrence Taylor.
Probably the best defensive football player ever.
People were worried about that guy, right, when they had to play him?
Oh, yeah.
Big time.
Okay, so that's a thing.
He's famous in sports.
You're a political animal.
Is that a big deal that he said that?
That me and my family are never gonna vote Democrat again and we're voting for President Trump?
Does that matter?
Here's what I would say is we keep having these questions about three times a week now.
Yeah.
Let me give you a look at collectively.
Yes!
It's all going the same direction.
And where is the one person that says, I voted for Trump in 2020 but I screwed up.
I should have voted for Biden.
There's not a person like that that exists.
Wow.
Jeff, you always bring it.
You always bring it.
This is happening every week on multiple occasions.
Can you just play?
Let's go through the pictures of the rally.
So first you have the one from, what, like an hour and a half beforehand.
OK, so we have this already just massive, massive group of people.
And then there's the still of the flag.
I love this photograph.
I don't know.
How big is that flag?
I don't know.
Two, three hundred foot long flag up on a crane.
Beautiful day.
You heard from Christagal who was there.
Our buddy Joe Piscopo.
I think we've got a recording of Joe with the President.
He got to interview President Trump at the rally.
And then just do the panning shot of the crowd.
It's just absolutely stunning.
You think it's going to stop and it just keeps On going.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
It just keeps on going, panning for half a minute.
I just, as far as the eye can see, It's Americans who are there from near 10 o'clock in the morning to listen to President Trump.
Why?
Because he said things like this.
Let's listen to President Trump talking about the current incumbent in the White House.
Cut it.
Crooked Joe surrendered to the terrorists just like he surrendered to the Taliban, and now he's surrendering our college campuses to anarchists, jihadists, freaks, and anti-American extremists who are trying to tear down our American flag.
They want to tear it down.
Every single place they go, they want to rip down our flag.
The chaos and violence happening on our college campuses right now is all because Crooked Joe Biden doesn't know what the hell he's doing.
The very same people who are funding the violent campus uprisings are also funding Joe Biden's campaign.
Do you believe this?
Tonight, I'm officially calling on Joe Biden and the Democrat National Committee to return the donations of all anti-Semites, American haters, and financiers of chaos who have funded the chaos on our campuses.
Return the money, Joe.
Return the money, Joe.
Return the money.
He has surrendered to the freaks, the pro-Hamas, pro-jihadi, American-hating lunatics.
It's not just the squad now on Capitol Hill, it's all across America.
So here's the question.
We debated it.
How many people, Eric, did we have running our national show on Friday across the nation to 3.6 million listeners?
How many people were running this show?
Hang on, let me give you a chance to count the numbers.
You might want to borrow John's calculator.
If we've got an abacus, you might want to do that.
How many people was it, Eric?
What's known as a skeleton crew, we had three people running the show.
What?
In addition to you.
Like, what?
One an hour?
That's crazy!
Three people?
NPR needs 48 people for 60 minutes.
And we had a debate amongst our massive team of three people, because...
Alex is like eating fish and chips in England, I think.
I don't know what he's doing.
And then Jeff was having a long nap on Friday, I think, because he deserves it.
Jeff, we asked everybody, we spent quite some time on this question because, you know me, my show prep is very laborious.
I spend hours at home in front of the computer.
Well, no, I listen to Dan Bongino and Chris Plant.
And Dan is convinced convinced as of i think it was thursday said biden's gone
they're not gonna run him he's over where are you at on that jeff um i feel like they're
running him but it wouldn't be surprised I wouldn't be surprised if they replaced him.
But you look at the polling.
I mean, what are the latest pollings, what do the polls say, Eric?
I mean, they're just, there's like double figures in some states.
New York Times and Siena has Trump up over Biden in five swing states and the biggest one to me, up over Biden in Nevada by 12 points.
Twelve points in Nevada.
Jeff, there's no way they run him.
I mean, I'm coming to the conclusion that they will do whatever needs to be done at the convention and parachute somebody in.
Well, if you didn't want to run them, this would be the smartest way to do it, is to keep them in there, that way you're not focused on anybody else until the absolute last minute.
Okay, if that's what happens, how bad is that for President Trump, that somebody can come in who's a Democrat and say, oh, you don't like the economy, oh, you don't like the war in Israel or Ukraine.
Not my fault, that's Biden's fault.
Is that dangerous?
Um, a little bit.
I think it makes it a little bit tougher.
But not significantly?
Um, I think people are really getting sick of the Democrats right now.
So they just want to get rid of him?
Yeah, you just got to tie it in together now though, that any Democrat would do what Biden did.
That's what you got to be pitching.
So here's why it sounds like Dan might be right.
Here's one of the pillars of the propaganda network that is Fareed Zakaria talking about something that I'm sure CNN did not approve of previously but had to clear now.
This is one of the key CNN faces talking about the trials of President Trump, Cutthroat.
And the trials against him keep him in the spotlight, infuriate his base, who sees him as a martyr, and even may serve to make him the object of some sympathy among people in general who believe that his prosecutors are politically motivated.
This happens to be true, in my opinion.
I doubt the New York indictment would have been brought against a defendant whose name was not Donald Trump.
A majority of Americans are skeptical that Trump will be able to get a fair trial, according to a CNN poll.
That's CNN.
That's incredible.
All right, Rudy Giuliani will be up next.
Let's squeeze in a couple of calls.
Dave, Arizona, line one.
I actually have a surprising example of somebody that's anti-Trump in State 48, sir.
But let me do my regular opening first.
Ultra mega happy warrior dittos from State 48.
Thank you, buddy.
My point to speak on is we must continue to resist the Marxist takeover, which officially
began, as you know, when the grievance culture launched Operation Chaos in May of 2020.
And I saw over the weekend Ms. Katie, lots of kudos to her.
She could be the next budding author in the family, and I'd be honored to be able to purchase
a signed book, because she threw it out on the Marxist, within the wire.
And I loved what she did on the TV this weekend.
It was an excellent interview.
Alright, thank you kindly.
Stay on the line.
We'll give you one for free.
You're a great supporter of the show.
I'll get a dedicated copy signed to you.
Stay on the line.
Let's go to John in Orlando.
Hi, Sebastian.
Hey.
Hey, yeah, I think at the convention, what do you think?
I was like 50-50, then the State of the Union kind of locked it in for me, whatever they injected with him, you know, LSD or whatever it was.
But now, when President Trump brings out 100,000 people in New Jersey, the Democrats must be thinking about getting rid of him.
I think at the convention they're going to say, Biden's, you know, got some medical problem and Harris can't take the place.
Let's put Mansion and Cinema in as our ticket.
Mansion and Cinema?
Mansion's not going to do it.
Do you think he's going to do it?
I think they are desperate.
They don't want Mansion and Cinema, but I think they'd rather have Mansion and Cinema.
Interesting.
All right, we're going to debate that with the team in the break.
For the Rumble viewers, a Mansion Cinema ticket.
Wow, you pulled that out of the ether.
Thank you.
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You What?
They would never allow cinema.
Mansion, even if they stomached mansion.
But why wouldn't they allow them if they want to get independence as well?
I couldn't find any clips from his radio show.
I don't think there's a camera in there.
But they sent it to us.
What are you talking about?
In the emails.
That site doesn't work.
Link's dead.
Oh.
It won't open.
Well, that's crummy.
Can you email him?
Can you email his producer?
Yeah.
Umm...
Oh, I need a title for Wilkie.
.
What do you think?
Israel is the main focus, so... Israel will defend itself?
Say that again?
Israel will defend itself?
What about the Putin preparing for war?
Oh, that's good, that's good.
Is Putin preparing for war?
war question mark another war a Russia prepares for all-out war
Bye.
Eagle block.
Okay.
Piscopo's off air now, right?
He's only mornings.
Yeah.
You want mics off for a...
Yep, okay, mic's off.
Okay.
Thanks.
Okay.
Thanks.
you you
you Gorka, did I see the Gorka man?
Yes, stand up Gorka, quick, get up!
How good, how good is he, Sebastian?
Seb, they call him Seb, I call him Sebastian.
Sir, you can call me whatever you want.
Sebastian, Seb, or you, the guy with the funny accent.
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I was on Twitter on Friday and up popped that little pink box at the top.
Rudy Giuliani is live.
And I said, oh, let's go and see what's happening with Rudy.
And I watched him for the next hour with my buddy, Steve Bannon, talking about Rudy has been fired from the amazing WABC station in New York.
That monster of a station run by...
I thought he was a conservative, John Katamatidis.
Well, let's get the truth from the man himself.
What do we call him?
I mean, he took down the mob, five families in New York.
He got New York back on its feet after 9-11.
He's a friend of mine.
He's one of the greatest patriots alive.
Let's just call him what he is, America's Mayor.
Mayor Rudy Giuliani, welcome back to America First!
Very nice to be with you, Sebastian.
I mean, I can tell you in a very... Well, hang on.
First, first, first.
Before we get to this outrageous story that I still can't quite internalize, somebody called Dr. Maria has sent me something that I need to demolish instantly.
She just texted me some fake news.
That I have to demolish live in front of three and a half million people.
She said, people are spreading the fake news that Rudy Giuliani, America's mayor, is turning 80 at the end of the month.
That's a misprint.
Must be 60, right?
60.
Yeah, yeah, 60.
May 28th, yeah.
Okay, all right, we got the real figure.
We'll be sharing some news about that birthday celebration, so in advance we wish you Godspeed.
Okay, so what I know is WABC, that used to host my friend John Batchelor, in the industry we call them sticks.
It's a great stick, a great antenna, a great radio platform, and John Katsimatidis bought it recently, who's allegedly a conservative.
His daughter runs the The GOP for New York, and then John cancelled your show?
What's going on, Mr. Mayor?
Yeah, here's what's going on.
I got a letter on Thursday of last week.
The first paragraph is the operative one.
It says, according to the policy of the station, you are not to have conversations on WABC or as an agent of WABC about the 2020 elections,
and you have violated that policy numerous times.
And then the reality is, I knew of no such policy not to talk about the 2020 elections.
I'm confused.
So it's not in your contract.
You weren't informed of any policy.
It's four years later and you're the chief investigator of those elections.
So were they asleep for the last, you know?
I don't know if there was a policy.
I violated it almost every day of the four years because I spend I'm not going to say every day on it, but for example, just in the last week, new information came out in Atlanta about 3,000 ballots that were triple counted and 375,000 ballots that are missing.
Nobody else covers it, so I cover it.
ABC, this is their policy, not mine, says that nobody there is allowed to comment on the 2020 elections.
Now, in their dissembling, they'll say things like, well, he was told not to talk about Dominion.
Not true.
I agreed not to talk about Dominion because they were suing me.
But that's all I agreed to.
And I didn't.
As to the rest of it, I'd be ridiculous to be taking a censorship on the thing I know the most about.
And at this particular stage to do it, makes me extraordinarily suspicious.
One, there's a lawsuit coming to a head between Dominion and Newsmax, in which Castamatidis was not named as a defendant.
And the Newsmax people are arguing that Chester Matitis made a special deal with Poulos, who is the head of Dominion, and got himself out.
And they want him to testify, and they want him to turn over his documents.
John refuses to turn over his documents, because I don't know what the hell he agreed to with Poulos.
Poulos is not an honorable guy.
He is not a decent guy.
You could be in the same situation as what they're theorizing about Tucker Carlson, that you had to be thrown under the bus by the corporation you were working for, so Fox gets rid of him to protect themselves, and then Katz Matides has to cancel you to protect himself.
I'm certain that's one part of it, without any doubt, because they certainly, policy or no policy, they never did anything about four years of this, four years of talking about Plus, the news I reported today about Atlanta, in which new evidence has come out that's quite dramatic, that you know isn't going to get reported by anybody else, I'd be prohibited from reporting.
And I'd probably get more information About these new pieces of information, just by virtue of, you know, where I was, right?
I started all this.
I'm the one who put all the witnesses on the witness stand, you know, endlessly for three weeks.
So it all relates to—every bit of this relates to things I did in the past and people I know.
And information has come out, whether they like it or not, since the election that completely dispositively proves they stole the election.
It's not even a question now.
It's not even a doubt.
Wisconsin, for certain.
Pennsylvania, for certain.
Atlanta, about four times—I mean, Georgia, about four times over.
I'm a little bit behind on Arizona, but Christina Bragg, who tragically got sued by them, Uh, is up on that.
And that's probably why she got sued.
Look, I'm being sued twice and they want to put me in jail for the rest of my natural life.
We, we, we, we, um, we want all of our listeners to support you.
Stay here.
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I don't think things are going very well for the prosecution in the court of law.
And in the court of public opinion, they're doing even worse.
Matt Whitaker, another day at trial, and they're keeping the president off the campaign trail.
Byron York on the hush money trial, which is not hush money.
Majority voters in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, say Trump cannot get a fair trial.
That's too bad.
That's really true.
Too bad.
Andy McCarthy, again, Bragg knows exactly what he's doing.
It's improper, completely political case.
Maybe Mershon, Judge Mershon, is having second thoughts.
They haven't come to close to proving, they have not come close to proving fraud, or that any fraud has taken place.
There's no fraud here.
There's no crime here.
This is four weeks of keeping me from not campaigning.
Jonathan Turley can't imagine...
Every single day he's in the court, they give him an international, not just a national, platform.
That's how cretinous these Democrats are.
They try to gag him, but they fail.
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We're back with Mayor Rudy Giuliani who has had his show cancelled at WABC by, we were talking in the break, by somebody who's at least a rhino If not worse than that, the new owner of the company, of the radio station, John Catsimatidis.
Mr. Mayor, as soon as I heard the news, I couldn't believe it.
I've met John...
Katsimatidis, I've been on his Sunday show, and I texted him immediately, and I texted him the following, Rudy saved, we're putting the texts up on the screen, Rudy saved New York twice.
Rudy is an American hero.
The decision to silence him is despicable and un-American.
Shocked you are in league with the fascists destroying the republic.
That's what I told Katsimatidis, Then I get this.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, it had to be done.
This is the kind of weird response he sends me.
He says, Sebastian, you know better than that.
I don't know what that means.
And my final response to him, to which he has not sent any replies, I know the truth is what matters, not censorship of actual heroes.
Who is John Catsimatidis, Mr. Mayor?
John Castametidis is a very wealthy man, made it on his own, billions of dollars.
He has pretensions of being mayor.
When he ran, he spent millions and millions and was a terrible failure.
He teasingly blames it on me endorsing his opponent.
It wasn't me.
I helped Joe Loda, but Joe would have won anyway.
Because John is not a particularly good candidate, but all the people around him are like little servants because they want part of his money.
And they don't tell him the truth.
And the reality is that now, the part that shocks me is, he is surrounded by several people that are basically what you would expect about a sort of narcissistic billionaire.
But I never thought of him as a dishonorable man.
The statements about my being consistently warned about this policy are straight-out-and-out lies, which are proven by the fact that it would be insane for me to have talked about this for four or five straight years if there was any kind of policy against it.
And they just kept warning me, and I just kept doing it, and they just kept warning me, and I just kept doing it, and I just kept warning me, and all of a sudden now it's necessary to fire me?
Or maybe it's necessary to do because we're getting near the election.
I can see that.
And I also think the second part of it is they don't want me to comment on my $145 million judgment against me.
Now, they are relying on a stipulation in the lawsuit that I stipulated defamation to avoid a trial, but only for purposes of the litigation.
It doesn't prevent me from alleging whatever I want outside the litigation.
Otherwise, I couldn't appeal.
And I do.
And they also claim they told me not to talk about that, which I have done almost every day since the judgment.
But interestingly, their own personnel have questioned me about that in detail.
So this is like I'm in some kind of Orwellian Never Neverland.
And that one, the interpretation they're using, even the legal argument comes straight from the Biden lawyers.
The guy involved was a partner of Hunter Biden.
And that, I suspect, there's some degree of coordination with the Biden lawyers.
Well, isn't that a coincidence?
Just like we're seeing with every Trump case as well.
He's going to make even more time for us.
I'm going to keep my fingers crossed.
Stay with us.
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John Katsimatidis fired you a few days ago because I guess the election's getting close and we can't know what you have uncovered.
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Talk to us about, you mentioned it twice already, the latest evidence out of Atlanta, out of Georgia.
Well, for quite some time, there's been an investigation, of course, interfered with by the governor and the Secretary of State, our Republican turncoats.
And finally, they came up with the results.
The board did, the SEB.
The board found that there were 3,000 ballots that were counted two, three, or four times, which is an allegation, of course, we made that we were told was totally untrue.
I think I can show it's a lot more than 3,000 times.
But 3,000 is the beginning to knocking away only a 10,000 vote lead.
Can you explain for the layman out there, why does it take so long for these revelations to be revealed?
Because they're covering it up.
From the beginning, I wanted only one thing.
As his lawyer, I wanted an opportunity to see the absentee paper so that it could be examined by an expert so we could determine were the allegations true that they were having fraudulent ballots printed up and inserting them to the thousands.
Now, I had an expert who had various forms of technology that, as you can imagine, could determine whether it was the original stationery, there was only one stationer they used, or it was new stationery.
And we happened to have a lot of evidence that it was new stationery.
So we knew what we were looking for.
We also knew that there were a number of ballots that were never basically checked off by a pen or pencil.
They were checked off by a machine They were just one candidate ballot in the thousands.
So the voting mark was clearly not done by hand?
Yeah, and that can be examined by an expert.
Wow.
And finally, a number of our inspectors said that a lot of the so-called absentee ballots were straight pieces of paper.
Unfolded?
And you have to be folded, because they have to come in an envelope.
This is what Mark Meadows called the pristine ballots.
Correct.
Pristine ballots for an absentee ballot are 90%, 100% phony.
They have to be phony.
But in any event, we wanted an examination of that.
They kept recounting and coming up with different results, but Biden win it.
And I kept saying the recounts are useless.
If we're right, they're counting the same phony ballots.
Yeah.
You can count them 100 times.
If the phony ballots are there, they're there.
Under no circumstances were we ever allowed to look at a single piece of paper.
That's also true in Pennsylvania.
It's also true in Michigan.
And it's true in every state where we were winning on election night.
They took a halt that wasn't scheduled.
And in those states, five of them, we lost every state.
And we've never gotten to see the paper ballots that I contend fixed the election.
I know there's a lot of talk about the machines, and it is quite possible the machines did a lot of damage.
But honestly, he won the machines.
On election day, if it was just election day, he'd be president, by law.
They cheated him with the paper ballots.
With the machines, they have given Biden a 1% boost, a 2% boost.
But that wasn't the difference in the election.
The difference in the election was the absentee ballots.
Because they did not ever predict that he was going to win on election day by the numbers he won by.
This is what I've been saying for years.
They thought that by election day, they thought by election day he was going to have enough votes to win.
And all of a sudden you have Trump ahead by 800,000 votes.
You're on the front lines, I'm not, but I've been saying for the last four years that it's the old school cheating that they've been doing for 70 years.
That's how they did it, right?
Because they've been doing it since Joe Kennedy stole the election for JFK in 61.
Right?
In my city, they've been doing it since Boss Tweed!
All right, sir, we're out of time.
I'd like to get you back for a longer discussion.
In the last 30 seconds we have, President Trump has been saying the following, and it looks like from the rally from New Jersey, he may be making it happen.
We have to win so big that even if they cheat, they can't win.
Is that a realistic approach?
Yeah, it is.
And part of the effort to get you to not talk about 2020 It's so they can get away with 2024.
Yeah, yeah.
And who's the biggest big mouth on 2020?
Me!
That's it, that's it.
That's why you're the troublemaker who had to be silenced, but that's impossible talking to millions of Americans right now.
Tonight I'll be on 8 o'clock live.
Alright, he'll be on Twitter tonight.
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Your 60th, yeah.
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Oh, yes.
Uh, title for that.
Um... America's Mayor Turns Sixty.
Heh heh heh heh heh.
Let's call it the real reason WABC 4 is on.
Fired Me.
The Real Reason... Yeah, W.A.B.C.
Fired Me.
Good, good, good.
That's right, yeah.
Councilman Titus ran for mayor back in 2013.
As what?
As a Republican.
He was the runner-up for the primary.
He is... Have you ever heard him speak?
Well, he's been on the show, hasn't he?
Or maybe it was one of your guest hosts who had him on, but I think we've had him on the show.
No, I haven't had him on.
Who?
Katz Macidas?
Yeah, we had him on before.
We have?
Yeah, when he was... What was it about?
The old CEO.
I think it's when he was... Wasn't he talking about running for mayor, maybe, or something?
Or maybe governor, because he ran for mayor back in 2018.
Oh, do we have the clip?
It's converting.
Yeah.
Crap.
And I believe his daughter runs the Manhattan GOP.
Correct.
Andrea, yeah, yeah.
It's not Trump that did the shout-out, it was Joe Piscopo that mentioned you guys' name.
Whose name?
Phil said that you guys were both mentioned.
I didn't hear that.
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30 seconds, we have the Piscopo clip.
Come in with it.
Come in.
Thank you.
Welcome.
Can we get back to the old days, Mr. President?
We are.
And I think we're going to make these even better than the old days.
That's what it's all about.
That's why I'm doing this.
We're going to make it better than the old days.
And, you know, we had four incredible years.
And then this guy came along and he destroyed our country.
What he's done with millions and millions of people coming in from prisons and mental institutions.
And they're all over the place.
And what a shame.
But we're going to turn it around.
We're going to make we're going to make it greater than even before.
We're going to make it greater than ever before.
And this guy, Biden, turning his back on Israel.
Mr. Trump.
He doesn't have any idea.
Look, I don't think... You think he turned his back?
Somebody turned his back.
I don't think he has any idea what's happening.
Joe Piscopo, my buddy, trying to keep a straight face.
Somebody turned his back for him.
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Number one, I saw on a Chiron this morning on Newsmax where the UN said they're reassessing their civilian casualties.
Yeah, we mentioned it in the first hour.
Yeah, they've halved them.
I mentioned it with Robert Wilkie.
OK.
Number two, Northern California has an awful lot of America First folks.
Correct.
I think it would be to our benefit for President Trump to hold a rally up here and make a weekend of it.
I think you're right, and it may indeed happen.
Lots of patriots in Northern California.
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Before we actually talk about real men and brave men, our special manhood, our guest
in studio, there's one cut from MSNBC I cannot but not play.
I can't believe they said this.
MSNBC had a take on the Stormy Daniels testimony.
Cut 15!
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
This was very much what I'd call a nuts and sluts defense.
There was a portion of the cross-examination where Susan Necklace was focused on the fact that Stormy Daniels now claims that she is a medium and that she communicates with dead people and has participated in a TV series.
about the paranormal where she explores things including the fact that at one point an ex-boyfriend of hers was inhabited by spirits.
She was mocking Stormy Daniels.
She wants the jury to think Stormy Daniels is a liar and she is crazy.
Nuts and sluts.
Nailed it.
Stay with us.
the man who hour next.
Thank you.
After two decades of progress towards freedom, rights, and equality for our communities, we have entered a period of backlash.
Far-right activists, aided by certain politicians, and a powerful anti-LGBT lobby are spreading disinformation, sowing division, Oh, shut down, shut down the freak.
Enough, enough, enough.
I just found that on my Twitter feed on Friday and it was perfect timing because it was posted by somebody who may or may not be able to explain it.
He is a man amongst men on the Manhood Hour.
It is a complete honor to have someone who is fighting for all of our children and just For sanity.
He's known to his friends as Billboard Chris.
Chris Elston, welcome to the Man at Hour.
Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
Yes, so that was Faye Johnstone.
He was on the cover of the Hershey's Hershey Bar last year.
And he's blaming some powerful lobby group.
And what position?
She looks like some very official event with flags and podium.
What was that?
So that's a man, first of all.
You can tell by the voice.
And that's just some government press conference where they're complaining about the powerful anti-LGBTQ lobby in Canada, which doesn't exist.
There's literally a handful of parents like myself raising noise about this madness.
And then he goes on to blame Texas and Florida for what's going on, which is a very nice honor to them, I guess.
But I should add, I was standing in the rotunda of the Texas state capitol with my signs on.
Saying children cannot consent to puberty blockers long before they ever did anything about this child abuse.
So what is the phrase he used at the beginning?
Sludge QTP?
Because I usually just say LGBTQ LMNOP.
What did he say?
So in Canada, to properly virtue signal, you start off with the 2S or two spirit.
Are you kidding me?
Representing the myth that indigenous people somehow were always trans.
Yeah, yeah.
You always start it off with a 2S in Canada if you're some government official.
OK.
All right.
So for those who've missed our interviews with Chris here on America First and on Newsmax, this guy is kind of crazy.
He's like the man who doesn't care about his own safety because children are more important.
And he goes around the world, I think you were in Europe recently, with billboards, what we call sandwich boards in the UK, a sign on his front, a sign on his back.
And what does the billboard say, Chris?
So the one on my front is usually children cannot consent to puberty blockers.
And on my back, I've usually got my definition of a dad, which is a human male who protects his kids from gender ideology.
And I just spent 10 days in Australia having a great trip there.
And what was the reception like there?
Because now I see you're doing something, you're having other people hang out with you.
I think you had a woman with a billboard as well.
What was the... because Australia is a bit of a mixed bag.
You know, it's the land allegedly of Crocodile Dundee and toxic masculinity.
And on the other hand, they locked down half the country and put people in camps if they didn't get the COVID shot.
So how was billboard Chris received in the Antipodes?
Yeah, so my goal is always just to have conversations, to start conversations.
I record them, I post them online.
It helps to educate people.
So sometimes I go out with one or two people or a member of the media, especially these days when I travel.
But in Australia, I went to some of the universities and I went to the downtown core and it was full of people with colored hair.
Almost all of the young women had a big problem with me.
There happened to be a domestic violence rally going on one of these days.
It was about a couple of hundred yards from me.
And as all these women filed by me, you would think because they're against domestic violence that they might not want to have creepy pedophiles and rapists in their female spaces.
But they were fawning over the man in a dress who was with them and they all thought I was evil because I think we shouldn't be stopping puberty in children.
Because the type of women who go to these events are modern-day feminists and modern-day feminists don't even know what a woman is.
So let's stop there for a second.
I've got a long list of questions I want to get to because you are really in the trenches on this issue and it's such a key issue that could actually could mean so much if we communicate properly.
What is in it For the adults who aren't undergoing the mutilation,
aren't quote-unquote transing themselves, but are on board.
So there's clearly, we've talked to Miriam Grossman, another incredibly brave woman, a child psychiatrist who tells the truth about these mutilations, and she says, she's confirmed that in many cases, parents are quote, transing away the gay.
They have a young boy who's clearly effeminate, tending towards homosexual patterns of life, and they're horrified with the idea that their son is going to grow up to be gay.
And so they say, hey, don't you like dresses?
Shouldn't we call you Julie instead?
And so they can have a girl which is normal as opposed to a gay son.
I see the motivation there, this evil inclination for your own appearance sake to disappear the homosexual progeny.
But for the women who are walking past you in Australia, who haven't transitioned, didn't forcibly mutilate their child, why are you the enemy and why are they pawing and, you know, adulating the man in a suit, the man in a skirt, who's actually a parody of a woman?
Have you worked out what the motivation is, Chris?
So we've gone through a couple generations of indoctrination here where girls in high school, then they get into university.
They don't take women's studies anymore.
They take what are called gender studies.
And they're all being sold this lie that first of all, children are transgender.
There's no such thing as a transgender child.
Nobody can define it.
Nobody can define what gender is.
And we can get into that in a second if you want.
Yeah.
But this is one big virtue signal for the left.
They've been taught that kids are going to kill themselves if they don't transition, that puberty blockers were reversible, and that this is the new gay rights movement.
They've turned what is a mental health issue into a civil rights movement.
But it's fundamentally, it's not about helping anybody.
They always say that, oh, it's helping people and you know, the body dysmorphia.
This is about the most selfish thing possible.
I am prepared to agree to something that isn't real and to support the mutilation of children and adults in the name of looking cool.
Right, Chris?
Yes, we're enforcing a mass delusion on society, and I guess we can get into all the reasons why people fall for these delusions.
People tend to use their intelligence to justify their existing belief systems instead of challenging their own beliefs due to foolish pride, I suppose.
But yes, this is just one big delusion, and it's a huge psy-op, essentially, going on all across the Western world.
And when you put it in simple terms like you just did, it's crystal clear.
But people don't want to acknowledge that this is true.
I love that.
I think we found the title for our manhood hour today.
Trans.
It's a huge psy-op.
How does he know that?
Because he's in the trenches.
He's risked his personal safety.
He's been beaten up.
He's had his arm broken by the tolerant people.
You know, the people who accept you if you're different.
Well, not if you believe in biology and science.
The ones that call conservatives science deniers, they're the ones that think putting on a skirt and cutting off your sexual organs turns your chromosomes into the opposite of what they actually are.
I want everybody out there, if you want to find a role for yourself in protecting children across the globe, in America, in Canada, everywhere, I'd like you please to support this man.
This is his job now.
He travels the world, standing up for the rights of those who cannot choose for themselves and are being targeted, more than 40% of whom Actually consider and in many cases commit suicide after they walk down this path of quote-unquote transgenderism.
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Chris, Where are we right now?
If you took a snapshot, when did you start?
When is the first time you put on a billboard?
Two years?
Three years?
What was it?
I put up real billboards in September of 2020 and then at the end of that month I started wearing them because no sign companies would work with me and they tore down my I love JK Rowling sign because they said it was hate speech.
We'll talk about JK in a moment.
In the four years since then, what have you seen?
Are we still in the, is it like Smaug the dragon in The Hobbit that, you know, that the people of the world are like slowly opening one eye to this reality?
Do we have a lot more convincing to do We'll have the likes of Riley Gaines on the sane side and the likes of Dylan Mulvaney on the lunatic side.
Have they made more people wake up than you expected?
Yeah, the lunatics certainly do a great job for us of helping to wake people up.
But I think there's been phenomenal progress.
When I started, nobody knew what puberty blockers were.
Yes.
They would come up to me on the street and say, what the heck are those?
And it felt very similar, actually, when I was in Australia recently, because they haven't had as much media exposure down there and not as many people knew.
But here in North America and in Western Europe, look at the progress we've made.
They've stopped this in England.
They've stopped it in Scotland, Finland, Sweden, stopping it in Denmark and Norway.
Germany just did a systematic review.
They found this wasn't helping kids.
The Academy of Medicine in France has said great things.
I think it's 24 Republican states have now put a stop to this child abuse, whereas just two years ago, None of these politicians wanted to talk about it because they didn't understand it.
When they don't understand something, they're not going to talk about it.
So we've really educated the population.
People like yourself cover this all the time.
And more mama and papa bears are turning into lions every day fighting back against this abuse.
And it's simply a matter of time until we end it worldwide.
Wow, that's what we love to hear.
What is the first reaction?
I'm sure you see lots of different reactions, but there must be some trends.
Is it people have no idea?
You know, you talk to the indoctrinated, or what is it Rush calls the low information voters, and I know people like this.
Who are well-meaning, who are intelligent, who say, no, no, no, no, no.
Children aren't having their breasts removed by doctors.
No, no, no.
Young boys having their penises cut off or taking hormone blockers that will sterilize them for life.
No!
Are you crazy, Seb?
That's not happening in American hospitals.
When you talk to people who aren't informed and haven't been indoctrinated, is the first reaction, what are you talking about?
That's right.
And a lot don't believe me because I don't blame them.
This is too unbelievable for words.
But I have all the evidence at the touch of my fingertips.
I have all sorts of videos from these trans health professionals.
We have several detransitioners now speaking out.
We have more than a dozen lawsuits going on in the U.S.
today.
So the evidence is very easy to find and show them without a shadow of doubt that this is occurring.
And with these normal people who at first are gobsmacked and their jaws hit the floor, Those are really the people I'm trying to reach.
I'm not trying to reach the radicals.
I'm not trying to change any hateful person's mind.
They're gonna have to come to this years later and acknowledge what they were part of.
But we just need to reach enough of the normies in the middle.
You know, three, four, five percent and this whole thing comes crashing down.
So we're doing it.
Yeah.
How significant is it that the gender reassignment surgery center, the Tavistock in the UK, was shut down and they released the CAS report a few weeks ago?
An eminent medical professional said there is no, no benefit to transgender surgery.
How big a victory lap did you take, Chris?
Yeah, that was huge.
And to be honest, there's really nothing new in there.
We've known all this, but it's nice to have it in a three and a half year long report, 388 pages long, because the politicians love these sorts of things.
They can go to it as a credible source and say, look, we're all for loving all of these kids.
None of this is about hate, but the evidence shows this isn't helping them.
And so, for example, in Western Australia, the leader of the Liberal Party there, Libby Mettam, I think is her name.
She now wants to ban puberty blockers.
They're not in power, but that's a major political party.
And when they do get in power, they'll stop this there.
A lot of people are going to continue to lie and to double down like the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Endocrine Society, who are part of this child abuse.
They don't want to admit their own complicity in it, particularly when there are lawsuits going on.
But it's simply a matter of time because the truth is inescapable and when we bury these people under it, they can't ignore it any longer.
And how telling is it that we now have moves afoot across America to limit the statute of limitations for medical MAC practice suits to 24 months?
Which is, you know, the surgeon that cuts off the breast of a healthy child knows it's wrong and wants to make sure that three years from now he's not sued.
How telling a metric of success is that, Chris?
Yeah, that's huge.
So previously, in all 50 states, the statute of limitations for medical malpractice was one to three years.
In many of these bills, they're extending that out 20, 30 years.
So, for example, what happened in Missouri, after the whistleblower, Jamie Reid, Blew the whistle on what was happening at the Washington University Gender Clinic.
They passed legislation to stop new clients from being seen, but the existing kids were still allowed to get treatment.
However, the lawyers for the gender clinic said, whoa, whoa, whoa.
These kids can sue for 20 years now.
We don't like that liability.
We're shutting it all down.
So they shut it down themselves because they know they're going to get sued.
They're running for the hills in large part because of what this man, what Miriam Grossman, what the author of the latest book, I see it on the shelf behind you, The Queering of American Children, James Lindsay, have done.
God bless you, quite the triumvirate.
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More importantly, I'd love to have you, Chris, meet her.
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Rowling, or I think I heard her interviewed, it's Rowling, so she says it Rowling, so we'll just call her J.K., the most successful author in my lifetime who struggled for years writing books nobody was interested in, and then the first Harry Potter drops.
A woman with a megaphone the size of Nebraska.
And I don't think she's a conservative like me.
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But on this issue, I think she's absolutely fearless.
Give us your take on the influence of J.K.
Rowling and what the trans community have done to her.
Yeah, so she first stood up for a woman named Maya Forstater in December of 2019 when she wrote a tweet saying essentially, love whoever you want, sleep with whoever you please, but cancel women, fire women from their jobs for stating that sex is real.
I stand with Maya.
And she came under all sorts of attacks for being some sort of transphobe because she believes that, you know, there are these classes of people called males and females.
So she's just common sense.
And this year what was pretty cool was Scotland passed this hate speech bill and on the very first day this bill became law, just about a month or so ago, she tweeted out this 10-part thread where she misgendered these 10 separate men who are all violent criminals and rapists.
Explain the bill, explain the significance of the bill that she responded to.
Sure, so this bill would criminalize you for Hate speech, which supposedly would include misgendering somebody.
Meaning, calling a biological man a man if he's wearing a skirt, you could go to prison for that.
Yeah, I would have to get into the text specifically because this is the question with all of these bills that pop up across the world, is how do you define hate?
Right.
This is a subjective measure, which they never put proper definitions to these terms.
But they've been showing up at women's houses in the UK literally for calling men, men and threatening them because of their social media posts.
So on the very first day this bill became law, she wrote this 10 part thread about 10 different violent men and challenged the Scottish government to come and arrest her.
And she basically nullified this law in one day because they came out and officially stated that they weren't going to press charges against her.
because they know what a catastrophe that would be.
And she also said if they went after any other women who don't have the megaphone that she has,
that she will retweet their words, she will say them again,
and she'll challenge them to arrest her as well.
So she's basically made it safe for all the women and men in Scotland to tell the truth about transphobia.
And let's be clear here, especially in Scotland and in the UK, this isn't about targeting men who want to, you know, get into autogynephilia and get sexually aroused because they put on, you know, a women's dress.
In the UK, they were putting male rapists, male rapists, Who'd just been convicted of multiple rapes and, you know, last day in court as they're being sentenced, they put on some lipstick and a wig and wear a skirt and they demand to be housed in a female prison.
And they are housed in a female prison where they proceed to sexually assault the women, the real women, that they're incarcerated with.
So this isn't just about, you know, some person who gets their kicks dressing up funny.
This is the safety of women, whether it's in a locker room, in a prison, in a school, we've seen here in Virginia, Young girls being raped in female restrooms by boys who are quote-unquote Transgender it all being hushed up and then the boy who did the rape being moved to another school secretly This is about the safety of real women and it's Posey Parker that great woman out of the UK.
This is about a The denial of womanhood.
The transgender lobby is deleting the concept of woman.
Just ask them to define it and you'll realize that they have already deleted it, at least for themselves.
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Let's also, so we're being specific about the threat to women.
We're being specific about the threat to children who can't smoke, can't drink alcohol, can't get a tattoo, but can get their breasts removed or their penis removed.
It's just saying these sentences out loud, I still find it hard to do.
Let's talk about the adults.
Let's talk about those who transitioned, quote-unquote, after the age of 18.
What should we say to them?
Because 10-15 years ago, in the DSM, in the Diagnostic Medical Manual, their condition was a psychiatric condition.
And it's the only condition today, they've rewritten the DSM, of course, because of the activists.
Now it's a completely, you know, non-psychiatric issue.
But if you think you're a woman when you're a man, you have mental issues.
And as the great Jordan Peterson pointed out, this is the only psychiatric condition that we quote-unquote affirm.
If I walked into a psychiatrist's office today and said, I'm Napoleon, They wouldn't say, yes, you're Napoleon, here's a tricorn hat.
If a 70-pound woman, whose ribcage you can see, walks into a psychiatrist and says, I'm fat, will you help me vomit up my breakfast?
We don't say, yes, dear, you're overweight.
What is the right response, or how do you How do you deal with, not the children, but the adult issue, Chris?
So, first of all, doctors have sworn an oath to first do no harm.
They are not order takers.
They are not individuals working at the drive-thru at McDonald's where someone comes through and says, I would like a double mastectomy, please.
And they just fulfill the order.
They have a duty and an honor higher than that, that they need to hold.
These kids, even when they're 18, 19, 20, they've got autism, they've got trauma, they've got sexual abuse, they've got other mental health comorbidities going on.
They should be treating all of these things first before they start cutting off body parts.
If someone wants to get their leg cut off, we don't just cut it off.
There's a condition called apotemnophilia where people think they shouldn't have certain limbs.
And even in Canada recently, they actually cut off, I think it was two fingers of some man who had this disorder where he felt like these fingers didn't belong.
It's totally outrageous.
They should be treating these other conditions first, because guess what?
People who transition as adults aren't doing better either.
If you look at the suicide rates, the best study was out of Sweden.
10 years after sex reassignment surgery, suicides were 19.1 times higher than their peers who also had similar mental health comorbidities.
They were 40 times higher than the general population.
You can look at a recent study out of California.
Within the last two or three years, they looked at these individuals two years before surgery and two years after.
For the men, Suicide attempts in the two years prior 1.5% in the two years after 3.3% so suicide attempts more than doubled so they're not helping these people at all but my main issue is of course with kids but with these young adults too we shouldn't be doing this this whole thing is
Insane.
And how much beyond the ideological, the perverse, the insanity, the denial of truth and science.
I gotta ask the dirty question, Chris.
How much of this is about money?
Because if you quote-unquote transition, you are on drugs for life.
If they provide you a A fake female organ, that's actually an open wound till the day you die, right?
So these are medications for the next 30, 40, 50, 60 years.
How much of this is driven in your estimation by just big business?
This is slated to be about a $6 billion industry by 2030.
So yes, that's a huge part of it as well.
I will say it's not just money.
I think this is a cult.
This is a quasi-religion, and we have all of these true believers.
So you have these young people getting into university.
They've been indoctrinated.
They now want to help these kids.
These people believe that trans people exist, but they can't define what it means.
You can define what a gay person is.
They're same-sex attracted.
They get aroused by people of the same sex.
Nobody can define what gender is.
People should watch some of my conversations recently.
With these four trans-identified males in Australia at the University of Melbourne.
Not one of them can tell me... What's the first thing you say to, you know, the standard response is, well, there's assigned sex at birth, the doctor just kind of flips a coin, but then you have gender.
What do you say about the gender canard?
Gender doesn't exist.
So we used gender as a synonym, a polite synonym, For the word sex.
Yes.
But the left uses gender to mean something entirely separate from sex.
They say that gender is a social construct.
It's based on the stereotypes associated with each sex.
So if a girl is more masculine, if a boy does more female roles, if he likes to dance and to bake and to cook, apparently this puts him on the female spectrum.
But we know how ridiculous this sounds.
And guess what?
All the trans activists know how ridiculous this sounds too.
I was talking to a trans-identified male just last week at the University of Melbourne.
I asked him, what is gender?
I don't get it.
He said, well, you know, it's roles.
I said, OK, so if a boy likes to bake and dance, does that make him a girl?
And he knew, of course, that was absurd.
So he said, OK, well, what roles is it then?
He says, well, it's not roles.
It's really, and they can't figure it out.
Because the whole thing is garbage.
It's nonsensical.
And then the ultimate philosophical kill shot, their argument is, well, gender is just a social construct.
It's something we invented in society that's imposed upon you.
And then the response is, well, if it's artificial and a social construct, why do you have to cut your sexual organs off to change your gender?
Sorry, what?
Why do you have to take Lupron, which is what we use in prison to castrate, chemically, paedophiles?
Why do you have to take that chemical if it's all just a function of mystical incantations and a social construct?
The whole thing... You're right, Chris.
You're just right, as usual.
It's just a cult.
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I just want to salute you as much as I can for what you do.
You are an exemplar of what we want to talk about here on the Manhood Hour.
Regale us again, Chris, with what made you do this?
Because you're the only person standing with a billboard that says, minors can't, what is the phrase, can't consent to puberty blockers.
What is the thing that made you go from being just a dad to being a warrior?
We can't tolerate a world like this, Sebastian.
We cannot live in a society that doesn't know what a woman is.
We cannot live in a world that's trying to change the sex of children.
I'm a dad, first and foremost.
I used to have a normal job.
I was a financial advisor.
But this world is sliding downhill fast, and it's not the politicians who are going to fix any of this.
It's all up to us.
You need to be your own hero.
You need to take responsibility for this yourself.
So that's what I did.
We can't just talk about this on social media where people are in these little echo chambers.
I felt I had to talk about this in the real world with people from all walks of life.
And I knew going outside with signs looking as ridiculous as I do would generate millions of conversations.
And it works and it's old school.
And we still need to talk to people face to face.
And so I'm just going to keep doing it because it's remarkably effective.
Will you please do me a favor right now?
Understand who the Warriors are.
So, read the books of James Lindsay, especially Queering the American Child.
Read the book Lost in Transnation by Miriam Grossman, especially if you're a parent, if you're a grandparent.
She has a whole, the book is dedicated to the parents and has a whole section of tools
for you to reach out, to build community and to help protect your children.
And right now, if you're listening to this, a personal favor to me, please support Chris.
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What do you say to those who say, okay, my kids are grown or I don't have kids yet and
I can't stand on the street corner with a billboard.
What should they be doing, Chris?
They should do something.
I get asked this question all the time.
People have different skills and connections and passions.
So just get off the couch and start doing something.
Join a Moms for Liberty.
Go to a school board meeting, run for your school board, write your representative.
Better than that, book a meeting with your representative.
Start educating the people in power.
But you got to do something.
And once you get in motion, you'll find other people who are also in this fight.
And now you'll have a team around you and friends fighting this battle with a purpose-driven life.
And you'll make a lot of the best friends of your life.
That's what I've done in my mid forties.
I've made the best friends I could ever have hoped to have had.
And this is far more satisfying than anything I'd ever done previously.
So, yeah, just get going.
I consider you a friend as well, Chris.
Let's close with some good news.
Where are you seeing really exciting things?
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Tell us what you're seeing that makes you go, yeah, yeah, we've got this.
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Fighting for our kids.
The three people, the three groups who lie the most are the media, the politicians and the universities.
And there's a big pushback coming and there's an awakening happening.
So this pendulum is going to swing back.
We've all been asleep for decades while the left took over all these institutions.
But the people are waking up.
They're not going to tolerate it.
We still have freedom of speech, especially in America.
That's not going away anytime soon.
So we just need to use our voices.
Get your speech heard.
And one conversation at a time we're going to put an end to this child abuse.
Beautiful.
A very wise man once said, a civilization is measured by its treatment of the most vulnerable.
The elderly, the handicapped, and children.
Let our civilization not be judged.
By what is being done to our children today in the name of transgenderism.
It's up to us to stop them and they are a cult.
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