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Everybody saw what happened today.
I don't think we have to do any explaining.
I'm not allowed to anyway, because this judge is corrupt.
He's a corrupt judge.
This judge, what he did, and what his ruling was, is a disgrace.
Everybody saw what happened today.
He's a corrupt judge, and he's totally conflicted.
And I gotta get back on the campaign trail.
I'm not supposed to be here.
We are so innocent.
There's never been anything like it.
We need every single analyst, legal analyst.
I'm innocent, and I'm being held in this court with a corrupt judge who's totally conflicted.
Take a look at his conflict.
It's a disgrace to the city of New York, to the state of New York, and to the country.
Thank you very much.
President Trump outside the courtroom in Manhattan.
He's not standing down.
He's calling out the Democrat Biden donor judge for what he is utterly corrupt.
Greetings, dear friends.
I'm Sebastian Gorka, your host for the next three hours here on America First.
For decades, they called us racists.
Today they occupy campuses across America calling black conservatives Uncle Toms and race traitors.
For decades they called us misogynists.
Today they allow fake women into female restrooms.
For decades, they called us misogynists, but have opened the borders to a wave of illegal migration under which up to 60% of the women being trafficked into America are raped and sexually assaulted by the coyotes smuggling them into America.
For decades, they say we were waging a war on women.
This month they destroyed Title IX and thus destroyed the sports careers of millions of young women.
They say they're saving the planet from environmental Armageddon.
The electric vehicles and solar power systems they're mandating require the mineral rape of the earth, the empowerment of communist China, and the systematic exploitation of the developing nations where the essential rare earth minerals for the batteries and panels are mined.
For decades, they labeled us racists, bigots, and even white supremacists.
In the meantime, they have inculcated a whole system of racist ideology into our schools and government under the banner of critical race theory, which is predicated on the white-skinned Americans being inherently oppressors and all-colored people being inherent victims.
They preach tolerance and acceptance, yet if you dare to question their ideological orthodoxy, you must be cancelled.
They say we deny science, but think a magic gender incantation or chemical and surgical castration turns a man into a woman.
They say we deny science, but lectured us for two years that the COVID vaccine stopped the spread of the disease and protected you from ever catching it in the first place.
They called us, conspiracy theorists, for positing the lab leak theory.
Yet, it is now apparent that the disease originated from the Communist Army's Level 4 biolab, and not the Wuhan meat market.
They call us conspiracy theorists every day, but they still say Russia stole the 2016 election from Hillary Clinton.
They lecture us on President Trump being a, quote, wannabe dictator who wishes to create a police state.
Yet it is the current administration which has charged the leader of the opposition with 730 years in prison.
Oh, and imprisoned his former White House staff for a misdemeanor contempt of Congress charge.
They originally labelled conservative media fake news.
Yet when conservative outlets reported on the Hunter Biden laptop story, they used the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security to suppress the story before the election via their social media lackeys in Palo Alto.
They said President Trump denigrated the vaunted U.S.
intelligence community, yet the deputy director of the CIA and 50 other former CIA directors and intelligence officers issued a statement labeling the Hunter Biden laptop story Russian disinformation when it was real.
They accused President Trump of colluding with Russia.
Their presidential candidate actually paid millions of dollars to a former British spy to repackage a fake Russian disinformation dossier into a smear package targeting the future president and to acquire secret FISA warrants to surveil members of his campaign and later his White House staff.
They daily lecture us about the threats to democracy if President Trump is re-elected.
At the same time that Biden's FBI is targeting innocent Catholics because they go to Latin Mass or because they attend school board meetings as conservatives.
Need I go on?
I could for the rest of this show and Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday and Friday.
I don't think I need to.
We need to stand up to those who hate America and hate you and hate the very idea of truth before it's too late.
Today I spent two hours debating one of the people of the left who perfectly illustrates all the lies I just listed.
He's known as Destiny.
I don't know what his qualifications are.
Eric, what did he do?
He, like, played video games online or something?
Yeah, he got his start as a video game streamer on Twitch and then decided to make the sudden shift into the political sphere.
Yeah.
This is a man who has no moral compass.
None.
Steven, you have zero.
To sit in front of me And to say that President Trump, through the Abraham Accords and the moving of the embassy and the recognizing of Jerusalem, is responsible for October the 7th?
You better not believe that.
If you do, you're insane.
You're a lunatic.
But what is worse is you probably know you're lying.
But you're such a political prostitute.
For those who hate America, you'll say whatever you need to score points, to look cool with your buddies, and to get a senile old man re-elected.
I look forward to having the whole debate.
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Does anything really matter that happens on Capitol Hill?
Not so much.
But sometimes the evil people get read the riot act.
Here's a recent example.
Mr. Secretary, how many children have been sold into sex slavery under your administration?
Senator, we are taking it to the cartel.
How many children have been sold into sex slavery?
Do you know how many children have been sold into sex slavery?
To an unprecedented degree.
Mr. Secretary, I want to say to you right now, your behavior is disgraceful, and the deaths, the children assaulted, the children raped, they are at your feet, and if you had integrity, you would resign.
And I will tell you, the men and women of the Border Patrol, they've never had a political leader undermine them.
They despise you, Mr. Secretary, because you're willing to let children be raped to follow political orders.
This is a crisis, it's a disgrace, and you won't even admit this human tragedy is a crisis.
What the Senator said was revolting.
I'm not going to address it.
Biden has a lot to answer for, but I think the most evil person in the administration is Alejandro Mayorkas, because of things like this.
I'm just going to read from an article in the Daily Signal.
The EMS professional working at the facility says that in addition to the obvious physical signs of rape and beatings, he recognizes the trauma in the eyes of these broken young women, some of whom are just teenagers, and wonders With tears in his own eyes, what will become of them?
Those words were written by our in-guest studio, the president of the Counterpoint Institute.
Delighted to have her here on America First.
Shea Bradley Farrell, welcome to America First.
Thanks for having me, Sam.
So, tell us about where these words come from, who told them to you, and what you saw, because this is what, the fourth time you've been down to the border?
Since Biden's been in office, yes.
Those words come from a heart of frustration and anger.
From residents on the border as well as my own, we have, President Biden's policies have created one of the worst human rights catastrophes, I would call it, on our border.
We have, you know, what was told to me in this instance, this is not unusual, but two emergency professionals who work down there on the border, We're visibly drained and fatigued and emotionally scarred by the number of young women and children that they deal with that have been raped by the cartels as they come across the border.
The thing is, Sabet, bears repeating, nobody gets across that border without the authority of the cartels and paying the cartels.
And in the words of this guy that you said with tears in his eyes, this big burly guy, you know, You have to pay them or you will be killed.
And it's not just taking a toll on emergency professionals such as himself.
It's taking a toll on our Border Patrol.
I talked to Border Patrol down there.
Domestic violence is up with Border Patrol agents.
Alcoholism.
Suicide, actually, is up.
So this is a very serious issue, Seb.
And here's the problem, because I work on policy in D.C.
I work on securing the border policy.
The Biden administration, President Joe Biden, has the authority to close the border right now.
Our Congress could close the purse strings off from his open border policies, and nobody will listen, and the people at the border are disheartened.
The article is in the Daily Signal, who will tell her story by our guest Shea Bradley Farrell.
I want us to be explicit here and crystal clear.
The U.S.
Constitution is unequivocal on this issue.
Texas doesn't control immigration.
Massachusetts doesn't control immigration.
The President controls immigration.
He decides who comes into the country.
The State Department, which works for him, decides who gets visas.
The President has every authority he needs to solve this issue.
Letting in at least 16 million, so we have 8 million we know of, you can probably double it with the gotaways, at least 16 million illegals into this country, That makes him the chief human trafficker in world history.
This is not an accident.
It's not dysfunction.
It's not, oh, Trump broke the system.
They decided to create this, correct?
Oh, absolutely.
They know.
Mayorkas, who you brought up, knows.
It was, in the words of the people I talked to, a slap in their face when the Senate decided not to bring Mayorkas to trial.
You know, Democrats and Republicans keep going down there.
And what the residents were telling me is, it doesn't matter.
They get hope when somebody comes down there.
They think they're going to be helped.
When whoever it is goes back to D.C., then the residents, in their words, nothing ever happens.
So they're disheartened.
Biden has created this.
You know, under the Immigration and Nationality Act, he has the power to detain, push back below the border.
Anybody who comes in here, he won't do it.
So for him to say he needs new authorities is a lie.
And our Congress, they could cut off the purse strings.
It's led by Republicans.
And why is that?
Is that the Chamber of Commerce that they want illegals working here?
Is it just a lack of testicular fortitude?
Why are the people who say we are strong on national security facilitating or just standing by?
I keep asking myself that question.
And you know, with the foreign aid packages that we just passed, the whole Ukraine and Israel issue got mixed up in this, which I believe should have been a separate issue.
My organization, CounterPoint Institute, is one of the organizations that helped push HR2 through the House.
If the Senate would take up HR2, then what it would do, it would make future presidents not be able to do what Biden has done.
and open our borders.
And Seb, I don't even call him on this last trip now, I don't call him open border policies.
He's destroyed the border.
There is no border.
There is no border.
I didn't realize that fully till I was down there.
You know, there were gaps in the wall, no DPS, no border patrol there.
But what I realized is it doesn't matter because even if border patrol catches somebody,
and I will tell you, you know, the local sheriffs in Texas have arrested many
CRIMINAL TRESPASS.
It's brought it down some.
But Border Patrol, under Biden's policies, has to release people.
So it doesn't matter whether they arrest them, stop them, or not.
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the elevator pitch.
That one I went over to Hungary to do research for whatever I did know what it was.
People kept telling me the rhetoric coming out of the United States reminded them of their Soviet era.
So it became a historical review of communism in Hungary and the likeness between progressivism and Marxism in the U.S.
today.
Did you like Hungary?
Seb, I cannot believe it.
I have a book in the car.
I'll bring one and leave it with the guys before I leave.
I love Hungary.
Yeah, I love it.
And I know you're originally from there, correct?
My parents, yeah.
Your parents were, yeah.
And your dad was a freedom fighter?
Yeah, he was liberated.
He was an anti-communist who was given a life sentence at the age of 20 and then was liberated in the revolution.
And did he immediately leave at that time?
No, he hung around for a bit with his widowed mother and then they had his great-aunt was a typist in the interior ministry and she saw his name about a week later on a shoot-to-kill list.
So if they caught him he wasn't going back to prison he would be just shot in the gutter.
So then he He said, sorry, mom, I gotta go.
And two years previously in prison, there was this older gentleman who was in prison because he was one of the leaders of the YMCA.
That was his crime.
And he had this strange sense.
This is when Starling died in 53.
He said to my dad, hey, Paul, if you ever get out, my dad had a life sentence.
He said, Paul, if you ever get out of here, will you take my daughters to the West?
And my dad, who thought, well, I'm going to die here, George.
Yeah, sure, whatever.
And then he's out.
He's on a shoot-to-kill list.
He remembers the promise to George.
George had escaped as well.
So he walked across town, knocked on his door, said, George, I got to leave tonight.
Where are your daughters?
And so with a 15-year-old and a 17-year-old, they made their way to the West.
The 15-year-old had polio.
It was a cold November.
So she had to turn back.
And then literally underneath the train carriage, They made their way to the Austrian border, gave their last penny to a local peasant who knew the route through the minefield.
They tripped a flare, but made it over into the Austrian refugee camp.
And that 17-year-old girl became, two years later, his wife and my mother.
Wow!
What a story!
Yeah, it's a movie.
It's a movie story.
It is a movie.
Where was he imprisoned?
The big Jutu fog house, the big political prison on the outskirts of Budapest.
It's still a prison, massive prison on the outskirts.
Not the House of Terror, although he was here first.
That's where he was interrogated.
When he was arrested, he was tortured in the basement and I went back there with him.
I don't know how a human being does this because he was actually physically tortured there.
And we walked through the reconstruction of the torture chambers in the basement and said, yeah, this is where I was.
Wow.
Has he passed away?
Yeah, my parents passed 20 years ago.
Okay.
What a story, man.
What a story.
And people ask why I do what I do and I say, easy.
My dad had scars on his body from secret police tortures.
Yes, absolutely.
I've got an excuse.
I don't know how President Trump does it because he doesn't have any freedom fighters in his
recent history or political prisoners, but I've got an excuse.
He's got a love for his country.
He does.
He loves his country.
Last time I went down to the border, I gave him a report on it.
Oh wow.
Yeah.
And what struck me is his love for our country.
Yeah.
We are a growing, growing nation.
Growing coalition that says no, no family in our city should be evicted.
Right now, We've got to be clear that this mayor has created a separate and unequal shelter system for asylum seekers.
That's New York City Councilwoman Shahana Hanif, who wants you to pay for permanent housing for illegal aliens.
They really are quite stupid, aren't they?
Yeah, keep doing that.
The issue that got President Trump in office the first time, you're doing a great job making that the issue that'll get him in office the second time, God willing.
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I know you're a policy person.
You said it three times in the last segment, but I'm going to ask you to force you into the political domain for a second, then we'll go back to policy.
Two things.
Isn't it weird what I just said?
That, you know, build the wall is probably the thing that most got President Trump elected in 16.
And if there's one issue I'd stay away from if I were a Democrat is immigration.
Because that's why he won last time.
Now, it's a thousandfold worse, and they're probably making him even more likely to win because of that issue.
I find that a little ironic.
And then secondly, I thought the left were the people who cared about women and minorities.
You've catalogued the fact that they don't care if you're raped, murdered, indentured, as long as, what, we naturalize you and you become a voter?
Yeah, they say they're the party of women, don't they, Seb?
What a lie.
What deception that is.
Because they know, good and well, that it is a usual thing for women coming across to be raped.
Children to be raped.
I had a border patrol agent tell me a story about a young girl that actually he wasn't able to save.
She drowned.
But when they pulled her out, They discovered she had been raped by the cartel, and they believe because she had been raped, they tried to cover it up by drowning her.
So this is not an unusual kind of story.
You know, our people are being traumatized by this.
We have a zone down there at the border described to me by a border patrol agent's wife as like a war zone.
The rapes, the assaults, the beatings, she herself lived on a ranch for many years up until just recently
because they couldn't take it anymore and She had to defend herself and her three small children from
illegal aliens on her property Trying to get in and you know break into her house
Chased by one that she believed at a separate time that she believed was trying to rape her and and
And over and over, actually, the stories that she told me I could tell you over and over.
So where's her protection, Seb?
Where's her protection?
And I'll leave you with this.
You know, every policy, going back to policy, that the Biden administration has put out, The article is Who Will Tell Her Story.
You can download it for free right now at the Daily Signal, dailysignal.com.
We've got literally a minute left.
an example of the rule.
Oh yeah, destroy it.
Destroy it.
The article is Who Will Tell Her Story?
You can download it for free right now at the Daily Signal, dailysignal.com.
We've got literally a minute left.
I have to ask you back to policy.
The rhinos aren't doing anything about it.
Biden is the largest human trafficker in human history.
Is there a role for states?
Is there something states should be doing more of?
Because I'm unimpressed with Abbott.
I'm unimpressed with DeSantis.
Can't they be doing more?
I think that Texas is more on the local side.
I talked to the county attorney in Kinney, Texas, and he's arrested probably about 12,000 illegals in the past three years for criminal trespass.
Now, ultimately, play out the prosecution, they're going to have to still release them to the Border Patrol, but it has been a deterrent.
There are numbers in that area of illegals trying to cross.
I have gone down and said that's the point.
We have to broadcast to the world that our borders are closed, that there are consequences for coming across the border.
Then people will stop coming.
Yeah, well, that only happens if the right man wins on November the 5th.
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The outside of this building is closed down like Fort Knox.
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We have so many police down here, New York's finest, and they are New York's finest.
They're just told what to do, but they don't have them at Columbia, they don't have them at NYU or any other place.
This is like an armed camp down here, and you have nothing to worry about.
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Big problem from the left.
It's from within, from within our country.
That's a bigger, in my opinion, a bigger danger than China or Russia.
You have it from the outside, and you have it from within.
From within is a bigger danger to our country, and it's from the left, not from the right.
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He is the president of the Zionist Organization of America.
Mort Klein, welcome back to America First.
Great to be with rational, centrist Americans, because that's what you are.
Truth is not a political position, Dr. Gorica.
You speak the truth, that's not right-wing, it's rational centrist.
I like that.
I have to test something with you, if I may, President Klein.
I have some friends of mine, Jewish friends, and when they heard the CNN interview with Joe Biden, They called it a blood libel.
And I was a little bit confused because I'm interested with, I'm familiar with the blood libels of yore that were used against the Jewish community for more than a century.
And I said, guys, can you, how is this a similar occurrence?
And they said, oh, well, of course it is.
Because Joe Biden, the president of the United States, said on a television interview that the Jewish state is deliberately
targeting civilian population centers.
Once that was explained to me, I think I agree with him.
Could you comment on the interview the current incumbent of the White House gave and what he
said about Israel?
It is, Professor John Spencer of West Point said Israel had the lowest proportion of
civilians to combatants killed in any war.
It would be a great way to get a little bit of a break.
Less than one to one.
Average wars, it's nine and a half to one.
Our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, fourteen to one.
So to say that Israel is intentionally killing civilians is a blood libel.
Worse than that, it's an unbelievable lie, because Israel is doing more to try to prevent
civilian loss of life than any army in history.
And let me tell you something else.
These are not such innocent civilians.
Ninety percent of them support Hamas, a terrorist regime.
Ninety-three percent support 10-7, October 7th, this massacre of 1,200 Jews.
They're not even so innocent.
They're a monstrous culture.
And so, it's hard to have sympathy for people who have those types of attitudes.
And the fact that the only Jewish state America is in a fight for its very existence, the greatest loss of life since the end of the Shoah, since the Holocaust, and America is now refusing to provide munitions.
Your reaction?
Isn't it amazing that Joe Biden and Blinken and his whole national security staff is defending and protecting a terrorist group that's on our list of terrorist organizations who are dangerous for America?
We have people on campuses now saying we are Hamas, wanting to kill Jews and Americans.
By not arming Israel to allow them to destroy Hamas, we're encouraging more terrorism.
We're strengthening and bolting Iran.
What's worse, people have to understand, Joe Biden since day one has given Iran $26 billion, this terrorist regime, has ignored sanctions allowing Iran to earn $50 to $100 billion more in oil revenues, which they weren't entitled to under the restrictions under President Donald Trump.
And they take this money and they fund Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis and other terrorist groups.
Joe Biden's policies are strengthening and encouraging terrorism and murder.
And let me make it clear, this is not against Jews only.
Mahmoud al-Azhar, the co-founder of Hamas, has said in an interview at the end of October First, we're going to kill all the Jews, but I want everyone to know.
Next, we're killing all the despicable Christians and the non-Muslims, and we're going to set up a caliphate with Islam running the world.
Strengthening Hamas and Iran is a danger to all Americans, to the entire Western world, and Biden is strengthening these people.
Intentionally.
It is not for the votes in Michigan, Dr. Gorka.
And why do I say it's not for the votes in Michigan?
First of all, he's going to lose as many votes by harming our greatest ally, Israel, as he will be gaining.
Moreover, he's been attacking and taking policies hostile to Israel since day one, before Michigan was a twinkle in his eye.
He has not allowed the Prime Minister of Israel at the White House.
He allowed the President of Jordan.
He allowed the head of Egypt.
Never allowed Bibi Netanyahu to come to the White House.
And every person he's appointed to important posts that affect Israel is somebody extremely anti-Israel.
Hadi Ammar, Maher Bitar, Robert Malley, Samantha Powers, Blinken.
People don't know these names.
These are people who are extremely hostile to Israel.
So this is intentionally strengthening enemies of America and enemies of Israel.
And it's really sinister.
It's sinister.
It's not simply politics that he wants to get elected.
Yeah.
It is a war for Judeo-Christian civilization.
As the President of the United States, President Trump said on my show a month ago, if you're a Democrat and you're Jewish and you vote for Joe Biden, you hate America.
He's proven that because he's betrayed America.
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Biden has betrayed Israel.
Biden has betrayed Israel.
Who will tell her story?
And then monologue.
It's a good thing.
It's them or us.
I need you to post that on Substack, but for each thing where I say they said this, this is what the truth was, I need a link in each one of those.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
The article.
I read, that was an article I read in the monologue.
Well, it's on AMAC, but I'll send you the text.
Yeah, yeah.
This is the guy we've had on, right?
Andrew Bailey.
Have we had him on?
Yeah, he keeps DMing me.
Let's come in with something.
Bye.
Let's go.
Um...
They're coming with Biden.
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It's been a banner year for women's basketball.
More of watching y'all than anybody else.
The most watched women's college game ever.
It matters to girls and women finally seeing themselves represented.
And it matters to all of America.
That's why as a nation we need to support women's sports.
by showing up in person, watching on TV with more sponsorships and programming,
and helping grow the business of women's sports and keep inspiring an entire nation.
And that's not hyperbole.
Why does he always say that's not hyperbole?
What is he doing?
Someone must have told him somewhere that makes him sound smart to use a word like hyperbole, which not too many people probably know what that means.
But it literally didn't apply there.
Hyperbole literally means dramatic exaggeration.
He wasn't exaggerating anything.
He's literally saying, buy tickets, go to the game.
That's not hyperbole.
I'm like, People already do that.
How is it hyperbole to suggest that?
And what is that woman behind him doing?
Instead of clapping, she rubbed her two fingers on her thumb.
What is that?
I think maybe she was trying to snap?
That's the thing I remember in college, that some people say, oh, like, it's better to snap instead of clap.
But she wasn't snapping.
She was, like, doing, like, what is it, like, oompa loompa clapping or something?
I don't know.
What is that?
Like, show me the money sign?
I don't know.
Yeah.
But let's talk about the content of that quote, Eric.
He said, Women need to represent, and that's why we support women's sports, by letting hairy-ass men destroy Title IX last week.
I mean, he literally destroyed Title IX.
Men can't pretend to be women in women's sports.
Is that what he means by, women must represent?
It almost sounds like, if anything, he's trying to take credit for it.
Like, oh, I fixed Title IX, and now, look, women's sports are really taking off, as if that has nothing to do with a Very popular basketball player from Iowa right now.
It's just, it's...
The delusion is off the charts here.
The delusion is indeed off the charts.
Let's wrap up the first hour with somebody else who's delusional.
Greta is back!
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Now it's not about the environment.
It's about Jew hatred.
It's about genocidal calls for the river to the sea.
She's asked about how many more of these Jew-hating protests we need.
The one and only prophetess of Armageddon, Greta Thunberg.
I think they should be everywhere.
And once again, young people are leading the way, showing the world how we should react to this.
By chanting what?
to this. By chanting what? We are Hamas. Globalize the Intifada.
I'm sorry.
I'm a rather large individual.
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She creeps me out.
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you Now some people say Joe Biden is doing this for his re-election, which would be bad enough.
It would also, I have to add, be grounds for impeachment under the Democrats' Trump-Ukraine standard withholding foreign aid to help one's re-election.
Only with Joe Biden, it's true.
That's Senator Tom Cotton saying, uh, you can impeach this guy for what he's doing over Israel aid, just like you tried to impeach President Trump.
But in fact, in that case, it wasn't true with regards to Ukraine.
I'm not sure six months out an impeachment move is the wisest thing.
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We played a video, I think yesterday or the day before.
Eric, can you play the video that was rather frightening of violence at a Turning Point USA event.
Antifa is back.
I don't think they ever went away.
And they were attacking a member of the American minority.
Is Antifa racist?
That's so strange.
I thought that they were on the side of minorities.
Man, he's got some speed to him.
Um, I don't know if I want to have that person on my show today because... I look behind me in my studio.
He's got more toys than I do and I'm already jealous.
Jonathan Cho, Frontline's TPUSA correspondent.
Welcome to America First.
Thanks for having me.
So, uh, you have all those- all of those toys because what?
Because it's cheaper than a drug habit?
Yeah, I need an outlet.
I'm constantly being chased and I don't like beating people up, so, uh... I thought I had a problem.
Eric, look at- look at that- look at that studio!
I've got a couple of tchotchkes, I've got a Millennium Falcon on the wall, I've got some of my Star Trek stuff, a Simon Man from Doctor Who, the OG Battlestar Galactica Viper, and R2-D2.
I think that guy's got a flipping toy store!
Alright, we're gonna have to visit you sometime.
Alright, let's get down to business.
Jonathan, talk to us about the video.
Where were you, what were you doing, and who were those masked scum?
Yeah, just a few days ago I was covering a Turning Point USA event with Charlie Kirk, and the event was well advertised.
And because it was so well advertised, you have the far-left activists here in Seattle, the Antifa bunch, calling for a direct action.
And of course, we were anticipating this.
My team was out there.
I had two security guards.
We weren't sure exactly what we were going to encounter, so of course we went through the University of Washington Quad.
For your viewers who don't know, it's essentially become a Hamas encampment.
You have pro-Palestine activists, students who have now taken this over.
And I want to be very clear, it's not just students.
You have the professional outside agitators here now.
We're essentially, you know, running point on this insane situation, and school leaders aren't doing anything about it.
So, of course, you know, getting back to our coverage, we wanted to show our audience what was actually happening on the ground, real time.
Unfortunately, that's when these Antifa lunatics, who, by the way, have taken over an entire tent with a sign that reads, death to fascists.
Okay, there's a tent there, and I see not one, two, five, ten, twenty Antifa members a lot of people are coming out dressed up in black cloth.
And of course my security is there to defend me. But at this point we're backpedaling. And when they finally caught
up with us that's when the melee broke loose. You know I had to get in a few blows. I don't like violence you know.
But I have to defend myself. So you know I dropped the hammer on a few fellas. But at that point I just started
running. You know thankfully our security guys you know neutralized the threat once again.
One of my guys, you know, got a gash under his eye, but otherwise, you know, we made it out alive, overall unharmed.
But the worst part about this is, you know, I'm pro-law enforcement, and I really want to support the cops, especially university police.
You know, everyone's been, you know, essentially, you know, outmanned and outgunned due to this insane,
defund the police movement that's essentially infected our major democratic cities.
And I asked the officer, will you follow me back into the quad
so I can point out exactly where the Antifa thugs were staying and the officer declined
and wouldn't tell me why.
So we have filed a report.
Is that campus officer or is that local municipal?
It's the campus officer.
No Seattle police officers inside.
This is strictly being handled by campus cops.
You know, I reached out to the administration.
I mean, is this what it's going to take, finally?
Well, look, clearly, Jonathan, you're a white supremacist.
I don't know where in the Nordic kingdom your Asian ancestors came from, but it's absolutely clear.
You look remarkably unscathed.
I'd like to see photographs of what the Antifa guys look like under their masks.
But to be serious, What do we know?
You say outside agitators.
We saw the reports of the Tides Foundation, funded by Bill Gates, Soros, David Rockefeller, the Pritzkers.
Do you have a sense who's funding, who's coordinating, and what the correct response is?
I mean, God bless you and Charlie for going into the fray, documenting it.
But what do we do about these people who hate America?
Yeah, and you know, unfortunately, as you know, and that's why independent media is so important right now, more than ever, mainstream local media in Seattle won't even touch this, because it's just not brand safe.
It's too controversial.
But look, here on campus, if you come here right now, you have, again, Middle-aged men and women waving commie flags, the sickle and hammer.
You have the revolutionists, you know, communists on campus recruiting.
You have these socialist groups that are waving signs during these pro-Palestine protests.
Again, this is no longer about the innocent civilians in Palestine.
This is a group of far-left activists who have taken over, hijacked another movement, and they hate America.
They want to destabilize this country, and they found another opportunity to do that.
Do you think this will fizzle out now that the graduation is occurring, semesters are ending, or is Antifa just one spark away from coming back again everywhere as we saw in the quote-unquote summer of love in 2020?
Oh, and you were right with your assessment, Sebastian.
They actually didn't go anywhere.
They were just kind of dormant and in hiding, but they're looking for these, again, social causes and sparks in our society to latch onto and push their agenda.
On Sunday, there's going to be a counter-protest back here at the University of Washington, a group of Evangelical Christians and Jewish groups are getting together, they're planning to do a prayer, and they're going to march through.
Already Antifa, on all the social media networks here in Seattle, they put out a call to counter-protest, another direct action.
So we're inevitably going to see a clash on Sunday, and graduation is still about a month away, okay, on June 8th.
So who knows what's going to happen if this quad situation is allowed to go on, but this really is remarkable, Sebastian.
I've never seen Leaders like this, spineless, not taking any action and allowing this encampment now to flourish and we're going into week three.
Unbelievable.
Well, we commend you.
I don't know if you have to take up a sidebar career in Muay Thai or boxing, but you've definitely got some natural talent there.
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Give me camera two, please, guys.
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This is my Millennium Falcon from the 1980s.
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That's the one I'm most excited about.
What's the toy you're most excited about, Jonathan?
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Ha ha ha ha!
That is a wicked collection.
He had stuff all over the place, still in boxes, because he has so much of it.
Okay, here's the question.
Is he married?
Because I doubt it.
That many toys?
That many?
Either that or he's married and he has no kids.
Cause that's a lot of money.
Oh my gosh that- Okay, I'm looking that up right now.
Makes the warp sound when you open the lid.
That is... How do I not even know about that?
TARDIS...
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Oh my gosh.
Oh, there's a- this is a wooden TARDIS cookie jar.
I'm going to put it in the oven.
It was 9% when I came to office.
9%.
Inflation was actually 1.4% when Biden was sworn in, peaking at 9.1% in June 2022.
It has since come down to 3.5%.
Eric, did you just make a deep fake?
Biden was sworn in, peaking at 9.1% in June 2022.
It has since come down to 3.5%.
Eric, did you just make a deep fake?
Did ABC News fact check Joe Biden?
ABC News just royally fact checked.
What?
It was not 9%, it was in fact 1.4%.
That was Breitbart, right?
No, that wasn't OAN or Newsmax or Fox.
No, that was ABC News.
So Joe Biden lied by a factor of 900% and ABC checked him on it.
As the late, great Rush would say, a rare act of journalism.
Yeah.
Random act of journalism, drive-by journalism.
What do they say about broken clocks?
Either that or they're throwing him under the bus.
Dan Bongino thinks he's toast.
It's fascinating.
He thinks that, but we'll discuss that in the next segment with you guys.
I need to know what you think, whether they're getting rid of Joe Biden.
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I don't know about you guys listening out there, all three and a half million of you, but I get a feeling that every week... I was talking to a former student of mine.
Great guy.
Eight years in government service.
Now he's running for local office.
Every week there's somebody, whether it's my wife Katie, who's now head of the GOP for the biggest county in Virginia.
Every week I hear about people who say, okay, um...
I've had enough with the rhinos, with the lunatic leftists, and I'm going to step into the arena.
And that's why I was delighted to hear from my friend, Amy Kramer.
Amy, welcome to America First.
You're a patriot.
Thanks for having me.
Totally.
We know you from the Women for Trump and all the other great MAGA movements.
What crazy thing have you just decided to do in Georgia?
Oh, Seb, I'm just tired of Georgia losing and not securing our elections.
And so I've decided to run for national committee woman to represent Georgia at the RNC.
And also as an RNC committee woman for Georgia, you get a position on the state executive committee.
And so we need another America first activists, grassroots activists on our Georgia GOP executive committee.
That's another vote we need there.
I've decided to put my name in the hat, and they are coming after me big.
They don't want me there.
I'm not part of their club.
They don't want me in their club.
And I don't want to be in their club.
And that's what they really hate, because they can't control and manipulate me.
But I'm doing this because Georgia has a losing record since 2016.
We have not secured our elections.
We've lost 15 state house seats,
five senate seats, Georgia state senate seats,
and Georgia seven flip blue, and that's not acceptable.
So the status quo has gotta go and that's why I put my name in
and I'm running for the seat.
I like that.
I think we might have to make that one of our new bumper stickers.
The status quo has got to go, with your permission.
You're on the ground in Georgia.
Georgia should absolutely be a state of patriots.
Can you give us the diagnosis?
What on God's Green Earth is happening in Georgia.
Is it incompetence by the establishment?
Or is it cowardice?
What's going on?
Why are patriots like yourself having to step into the arena?
Well, I think there's a lack of courage here.
And it's been a battle for the soul of Georgia, the soul of America.
It's grassroots versus the establishment.
And last election cycle, last June at the Georgia GOP convention, we took over across the state, almost all the counties off.
We have 14 congressional districts.
We took over all but three of them.
And we took over a number of positions on the state executive committee.
But this is the thing, Seb.
I'm not going in to tear down the Georgia GOP or the RNC.
We need to build them up and make them better and stronger.
But unfortunately, there are people that have been involved in politics for a long time here in Georgia that are on the executive committee, that are on the state committee, and they work for the state.
And they're not being, I mean, that's a conflict of interest.
And we know the problems we have with Brian Kemp and Brad Raffensperger.
Our legislature has not done enough, in my opinion.
And so we need more people to stand up and take a stand and say, this is not right.
We need to secure elections.
We will still be voting on machines in November that are insecure.
And Georgia has 159 counties, second to the number of Texas.
And every state in every county in our state is required by law to vote on electronic voting machines for all state and federal races.
Well, that means we have more Dominion machines than anybody, and they're not secure.
And CISA has said it.
The EAC, we've seen it.
The Halderman report, it's in.
Brad Raffensperger said, I'm not going to fix it until after the 2024 election.
And the legislature did nothing.
And to me, that's not acceptable.
And so we have a committee of man and woman that have not been really effective.
They have not shown up at any of our grassroots events across Georgia.
Went after the November election in 2020.
I mean, you know what we did.
I mean, we had the two rallies in D.C.
and then again January 6th at the Ellipse with President Trump.
We invited our committee woman to come and speak at the one on November 14th.
She declined.
She never showed up at any of the events here in Atlanta.
And actually said today, our state, our state committee, the executive committee and the state committee are having an emergency session to deal with the matter that they're all required to vote on.
And our state, our national committee woman, instead of showing up at this meeting today, that everybody has come from all four corners of the state, she's at her boutique trying to sell her clothes, get her clothes ready to take to the convention that she wants to sell at the convention next week.
I mean, that's not acceptable.
That's not representing The people of Georgia and the grassroots, and so we need change.
Well, we've got one minute left.
I want to ask you one question because you're so in touch with the grassroots across America.
I see amazing things every week.
I need a sanity check.
When you see Harlem screaming, we love you, Trump.
When you see the black lady at Chick-fil-A give him a hug.
I think things are looking very good.
Yes, we have to secure the elections, but what are you seeing?
30 seconds, Amy.
I think that things are looking very good, too.
We cannot just assume those people are going to turn out.
We've got to continue to register voters, and we've got to make sure people turn out on Election Day.
It's very easy to think back to four years ago when all cylinders were firing and things were rocking along under President Trump, and these people have not forgotten, and they want change.
And so we can start it here in Georgia.
President Trump cannot win without Georgia, and so that's what we'll be working on from now until November.
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No, that was not for you.
Although we could use that in the 2A1.
I need the one of Jared's latest video.
Jared, Jared, Jared... I just need a title for... Hang on!
And this is C anyway, so we got another segment.
Yeah, come on.
Come on, guns and gadgets.
Got some gadgets.
There he is.
I'm going to try to get him to move.
He's not moving.
Thank you.
I don't know if this is gonna be...
Good enough in terms of resolution.
Let me see if I can... Let us find out.
Come on, back you go, back you go, back you go.
Two and a half.
Probably not gonna be good enough Tell me if it works
If not, I'll send you something else.
Okay.
All right, we've got... I did car at the top.
Yeah.
I did two cars so far.
Yes, you have.
So here I'll do... I'll do a Patriot Mobile at the top.
Yeah, Patriot Mobile at the top.
And only two cuts left we haven't used yet, and that's cuts one and two.
One and two, okay.
Janine or that weirdo on CNN.
Because yeah, it's relief this read and then Patriot is next read.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll do Patriot at the top here, then Relief.
Yep, good.
Got two patriots in.
Is that is it how's the resolution on that?
It looks good.
I'm resizing it now.
Hot second, and... Banzai.
That's all right.
Actually, when I mention it, his new video, have us in two box plus one.
Two box plus this.
So this squeezes down a little bit.
Gotcha.
Okay.
And then I have that other, the gun image as well that you said.
Okay.
Okay.
Just need a title for, well, titles for Cho and Kramer.
Joe and Crema.
Crema, crema, crema.
45 seconds.
Can we fix the Georgia GOP?
Alright.
Then show... The guy with cooler toys than me?
You should see the Antifa guy.
See the Antifa guy, alright.
You You
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The Gorka man Yes, stand up Gorka, quick, get up!
How good, how good is he, Sebastian?
Seb, they call him Seb, I call him Sebastian.
Thank you, John.
I appreciate it.
That always cheers me up, hearing the president.
I'm in trouble now.
Our last guest, Jonathan... No, the guest before last, the penultimate one, Jonathan Cho.
He said, thanks for coming.
We're texting each other.
I said, thanks for coming on the show.
He said, I hope our paths cross at a toy convention soon.
I don't need another excuse to spend money, okay?
Guns and cigars is bad enough.
Eric, there are things called toy conventions.
That sounds really dangerous.
It does.
Like, that's the kind of thing that will make many a man's wallet cry.
That is like... Ammunition's expensive enough.
Toys!
Stop it, Jonathan Show!
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The loyal listeners, the ones who never call in because they're shy, the ones that are too busy driving a truck.
Whatever it is, we love every single one of you.
One of them, Donika, my rugby buddy, just sent me this photograph.
Thank you, Danica.
It is, with the Detective Shield, the headstone of Jonathan Diller, the man, the NYPD officer, who was recently murdered by a man who had 21 prior arrests.
Let me read that.
Let's put that full screen.
September 15th, 1992.
End of watch.
March 25th, 2024.
Loving husband, dad, son, brother, uncle, and friend.
It's a beautiful, beautiful headstone.
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We salute his memory.
We keep his family in our prayers.
And every single one of you in the bag.
Every single police officer who protects us every single day.
Thank you, Donika, for sending us.
That's so incredibly thoughtful of you.
All right, so I want to have a little poll.
We are down.
How many people are running this show now?
NPR, it's like 42 people per hour.
John, how many people are running this show apart from the guy with the weird accent?
Uh, we've got three today.
Three?
For three hours?
That's not possible.
Yep.
That's it.
So, no Mr. G, no Alex.
What's going on?
I don't know.
Alex decided to leave us and go to Europe for a week and a half.
I don't know if that's all.
What?
So what does that mean if we could run this show for three hours with four of us?
What does that mean about Geoff and Alex?
We should get rid of them and split their salaries amongst the three of us.
Dangerous, dangerous man.
OK, we're doing pretty well.
I think we're going to be pretty strung out by the time Alex gets back.
Jeff is enjoying himself with his family today.
God bless all of you.
Stay safe, my friends.
But I've got to ask you, I'm kind of teetering.
I have certitude in most everything.
I don't know if they're going to let Biden run.
All this stuff they're leaking.
Eric, do you think Biden's in trouble or not?
When you see ABC fact-checking them as coldly as they did, yeah, I'm starting to get the sense.
And again, don't forget, one of the most prescient, you know, political observers today, Donald J. Trump, predicted a little while ago that Biden would not be the nominee.
And if he's willing to make that bold of a prediction... He's pretty good, I have to say.
The boss's predictions are pretty flipping good.
Guy, is it going to be Biden or are they going to replace him?
I totally agree with Eric, sir.
You agree?
Alright, well that's two out of four.
The math is getting interesting.
The final vote that could tip the balance... John?
Who would they replace him with though, and how quickly would they... They'd have to do some kind of shenanigans at the convention, or he'd have to say health reasons blah blah blah blah blah, I'm standing down.
And you know, Gavin Newsom or somebody else gets parachuted in.
Yeah, I mean, that's possible.
That just seems kind of ridiculous.
I mean, they're six months away to the election, so it's like... Yeah, it's less than six months.
I don't know.
I don't know how they're going to do that.
I'm just going to tell you, we learned this in the Trump White House.
Don't count anything out.
We are living in peculiar times, and as the ancient Chinese curse goes, May you live in interesting times, and we most certainly do.
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Gandhi is like an Oscar for those in the Second Amendment community.
And this man, I don't know why, for some reason they think he's the best out there.
Jared Yanis, welcome back to America First.
How are you doing, my friend?
How's things?
I'm good.
So are you polishing that award every day?
Do you travel with it everywhere you go?
Industry secret, I'm still waiting for it.
Oh!
Guys!
Where's Jared's award?
Or are you just going to recycle it next year when you give it to him again?
Is it just a cardboard cutout?
We need to know.
Alright, he's MrGunsAndGadgets on YouTube.
You can follow him on Twitter at guns underscore gadgets.
I really do this.
I really prep.
any of our interviews because it's more fun to just be manic and crazy and unpredictable but
I'm a gun guy so I'm watching your channel and everybody else's channel that Brandon Herrera
is going to be on my tv show on Sunday so I thought I'll call you up I'll see what what
you're you're doing and you pitched me on a story that I thought ah that's too wonky
And then I thought about it, and I thought, uh, it is a bloody popular handgun platform, Plastic Fantastic, so we should probably talk about it.
This is one of your most recent videos.
The bill from New York to ban Glocks.
Is this possible, Jared?
Walk us through this insanity.
Sure, so I'll lay the groundwork real quick.
Anytime we have a landmark decision, Second Amendment related, by the Supreme Court, most recently the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association versus Bruin, there's always two states you can count on to try to weasel around and find any gray area where they can still take away the rights of we the people.
And it's always California or New York.
Well, New York is at it again.
This bill, while they're saying on the face it's to reduce the proliferation of the Glock switch, which as you might know, is a cheap switch people can either 3D print or buy from overseas and install them on a Glock and then illegally transform that semi-automatic pistol To a full automatic firearm.
Yeah, so let's just stay on this for a second.
So the back plate of a Glock slides out.
You can put all kinds of designs and cool stuff there.
But other people use this facility to turn that semi-automatic handgun into an utterly, completely useless machine pistol.
So that's the excuse, right Jared?
Yes, they want to take those off the street because law-abiding people shouldn't have those types of guns.
Well, only criminals are doing that stuff and that's already illegal.
However, this new bill, it's S.
9225 in New York, it's looking to not only make the switches illegal, but the guns that can be converted would be illegal as well.
Possession, transfer, sale, manufacture.
So they're pitching this as the Glock switch, but every semi-automatic handgun in the world can be converted to full auto.
It's very easy to do if you know how to operate machinery.
So this bill would, in fact, if it was passed, be a segue to ban every semi-automatic handgun, period.
And then this would set the stage for confiscation because New York Already has the safe act, they mandate registration of who has what and where they are.
So what happens happen in any time throughout our history, anywhere in the world when government tries to take a note of who has what as far as firearms or weapons.
The next step is confiscation.
And New York is trying to be the first of its type in the country to do this.
And all of the groups, Moms Demand Action, Brady, Giffords, Everytown, they're all for it.
They helped write the bill.
So it's extremely dangerous.
And it's not just for Glocks.
It's for every semi-automatic pistol.
And it's extremely dangerous because As you know, other anti-gun states will jump on board.
Right.
But let's just unpack the logic here.
The thing that turns it into a machine gun goes on the Glock.
Instead of making that more illegal or noting that it's only criminals that do that, They want to ban the legally owned Glocks completely.
That's like saying terrorists make explosive out of ammonium nitrate fertilizer and diesel, therefore we should ban diesel and fertilizer.
That's the logic, right Jared?
Exactly.
It's everybody else's fault.
Don't go hard on the criminals.
All right, let me ask you the real question.
We've only got a minute and a half left.
The buddy we were having cigars with at the Shot Show in Vegas, the great Braden Langley, he always approaches the so what question.
Okay, what do we do about this?
What's the right response to this insanity in New York, Jared?
I think we the people, the silent majority, need to stop being silent.
We need to absolutely let those legislators in New York know where we stand.
I know it's going to fall on deaf ears a lot, but silence is acceptance, folks.
You have to be loud.
You have to be proud.
This cannot be allowed to stand.
It's a violation of everything that our forefathers set up for us.
I'm not a big fan of the Glocks, at least not out of the box.
They're like picking up a brick.
I have lots of them, but they're all shaved, customized, Robar when they still existed, Bowie Tactical.
But this is a way to get rid of all Americans legally owning handguns.
That's what this is really about.
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Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, she walks into mine.
Impressive.
Most impressive.
See things you people wouldn't believe.
See things you people wouldn't believe.
I'm a top-tier guy.
you Let's go see him together.
He's a good kid.
I didn't kill him.
I didn't kill my wife.
Bye.
I don't care!
That classic tactical move where you pull the gun out and stick it right out beside you and walk with it sticking out
in the wrong direction because Because...
That's how the camera picks it up in full frame.
It's 1993!
It's the fugitive Tommy Lee Jones' best ever performance and I am wallowing in my own embarrassment.
The line of the movie that I didn't recognize last week when my co-host, the one and only Chris Coles quoted it to me.
Chris, are we gonna make movies great again again?
Oh.
Every week.
Yeah, it's look, I knew you were gonna pick up on that gun thing.
What was really funny about it is I was watching I noticed the same thing.
Him walking with his gun.
It just like pointed at the ground far away from his body.
And I thought, okay, they're doing that stylistically for the film.
I mean, that's why they're shooting it that way.
And I was thinking, OK, yeah, in the modern age, I think people would, because of the Internet, would tease them about that, would get on them about that.
And so it's a little bit, you know, they try to be a little bit more true to say, you know, what a U.S.
marshal might actually do today, because they don't want that kind of criticism.
No, I completely agree.
And the unfortunate part about that is that I think cinematographically, that really worked.
It actually worked really, really well.
And you could kind of get away with stylistic things like that in the 90s and the 80s that
you really can't get away with today.
No, I completely agree.
The internet has ruined so many things.
And you're absolutely right.
Nobody would ever do it in real life, especially an armed professional, you know, walking down
a sewer with your arms stretched out to the side, pointing the gun in the irrelevant direction.
But, dude, does it look cool?
And I'm sure back in 1993, on a massive silver screen, it really got you into the right mood.
We're coming up to the moment in the movie where he jumps off the dam.
None of this was filmed where they said it was actually happening.
Most of it was in North Carolina.
Let's start with the obvious question.
Why The Fugitive, Chris?
I'm actually going to have to blame my brother for this one.
I have a list like you have a list.
We've both compiled our lists of great films that we have enjoyed throughout our lives.
And yeah, I had this one on the list.
My buddy Kurt was helping me choose.
My brother was helping me choose.
And we worked it out.
And this is just one of my brother John's favorite films.
So I said, You know what?
Let's give this one a go.
You know what?
I wanted to pick a film that I knew was solid, right?
Oftentimes I pick films because it's a little bit lighter, right?
We need to go in a more light-hearted direction.
Or, you know, I want to have a little bit of fun or something like that.
And sometimes when you choose a light-hearted film or a film that's a little bit more fun, Sometimes, not always, but sometimes you have to sacrifice quality, right?
Now, this film isn't as fun as, say, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, right?
It's not a comedy.
There's not a lot of jokes.
There's a couple of funny moments in the movie, a couple of clever lines, but it's not like a ball of fun.
This is a suspenseful, thrilling film, and it is incredibly well made, but it is solid from the beginning to the end.
It's a solid movie, and so I just wanted something In this era that was a solid film that we could all kind of just agree, yep, this is what we're trying to do and we're trying to make movies great again.
I would actually go beyond that because, you know, I was watching this with a very critical eye because I'd actually seen it with my wife not too long ago, a few months ago, so I could really hone in on the movie itself, the pacing, the writing.
It's not just solid.
Dude, this is tight.
I mean, you just don't see.
There's, again, there's no flab.
There's no extraneous anything.
The ensemble cast, which is always a crapshoot, the marshals, the ensemble cast of marshals, is just pitch perfect.
Harrison even, you know, with the beard, not in his usual roguish, handsome visage, is also pitch perfect.
And you're on the edge of the seat.
Right?
You're there.
Somebody murdered this man's wife in front of him.
He wants justice and he will not, you know, take no for an answer.
And then you've got Tommy Lee Jones!
I don't know, you know, I'm not a big expert on Tommy Lee Jones, but I think this is one of his best performances.
The way Tommy Lee Jones delivers his lines throughout this film is...
I'm hard pressed to think of any actor in any project who has ever delivered lines as just cool, charming, effortless as Tommy Lee Jones.
Like the way he delivers lines in this, it seemed so naturalistic that at one point in the film, I was actually sitting there, I may have even paused it to just think about this for a minute.
Like, were those lines written?
By a writer for Tommy Lee Jones?
Or did he modify these lines to make them more Tommy Lee Jones-esque?
Because I don't know if I've ever seen lines written so perfectly for an actor before.
Like, it almost seemed like every line was tailor-made for Tommy Lee Jones's voice, his accent, his persona.
exactly the kind of things that you would expect that man to say he's saying on screen,
and he's throwing away some lines that are actually really profound and brilliant.
But in the way that you would expect a character like that to do so, I mean, it was just, like
you said, it was pitch perfect from beginning to end.
That character in particular, I think he probably made this film.
Obviously, Harrison Ford is, you know, he's a professional.
He's been around for a long time.
And you know, he was a sort of known asset.
Of course, he was going to do well.
But the director of this film, I believe, had Tommy Lee Jones in Under Siege, which
is which was, I think, the director's big, you know, first big movie, like first major
hit.
And so he brought Tommy Lee Jones onto this project after I believe after other actors
had turned it down.
And what a great choice.
I mean, this obviously exploded Tommy Lee Jones' career.
You know, he was a big star after this.
And, you know, the rest is history.
But yeah, what a great What a great undiscovered actor, kind of.
Not really undiscovered, but more or less undiscovered.
And the other people who are considered for the role of Marshall Gerard, Gene Hackman, and one of our guests here on Making Movies Great Again, the one and only Jon Voight.
They didn't play it, but Tom Lee Jones owns it.
And not just because he's kind of charismatic, but he's charismatic and grumpy and mean and funny at the same time.
Let's show the moment where he says, OK, I'm in country.
Control!
I've just arrived!
The prisoners have escaped, and this is what I want you to do.
Listen up, ladies and gentlemen!
Our fugitive has been on the run for 90 minutes.
Average foot speed over uneven ground, barring injuries, four miles an hour.
That gives us a radius of six miles.
What I want out of each and every one of you is a hard target search of every gas station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse, henhouse, outhouse, or doghouse in that area.
Checkpoints go up to 15 miles.
Your fugitive's name is Dr. Richard Kimball.
Go get him.
He wants a hard target search.
That's Tommy Lee Jones, US Marshal Sam Girard.
We are revisiting the 1993 movie based on an incredibly popular TV show my father loved.
It's The Fugitive.
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Reprieved by fate when a train wreck freed him en route to the death house.
Freed him to hide in lonely desperation.
To change his identity.
To toil at many jobs.
Freed him to search for a one-armed man he saw leave the scene of the crime.
Freed him to run before the relentless pursuit of the police lieutenant obsessed with his capture.
The original fugitive TV show with the incredibly charismatic, handsome David Janssen, extended over several years, now compressed down to one movie.
This is risky business, isn't it, Chris?
In this case, you know, we've seen some remakes.
Sometimes they work, Mission Impossible.
Sometimes the A-Team, not so much.
But in this case, they took a very successful TV show and turned it into a whopper of a great movie.
Yeah, yeah.
Back then, in the early 90s, I think in the late 80s, they were doing this with some frequency.
They were trying to, there was like the TV show Maverick, they remade into a movie with Mel Gibson.
And they even had James Garner actually in that movie, which was a good film.
Actually, I should write that down on my list.
I kind of, I forgot about that one, Maverick.
But they did a few old TV shows into movies, obviously, like you said, Mission Impossible.
And this one, you know, it's really weird.
I feel like people kind of forget about this movie, The Fugitive, because it didn't spawn a series of films after that, like Mission Impossible did.
It isn't one of the most groundbreaking films ever, like Silence of the Lambs or something like that, which I do think Silence of the Lambs has a somewhat similar style to this.
In the fact that there's all this suspense.
It's shot in a somewhat similar way.
It has a similar kind of soundtrack.
Soundtrack in this is pretty epic.
I mean, it enhances the suspense from the beginning to end.
But yeah, there was a lot of these remakes.
Again, it kind of just comes down to The production value, right?
Was everybody at the top of their game when they were producing this project?
And they certainly were.
It also comes down to the simplicity of the story.
Yeah.
We talked about this before, these sui generis ideas, these sui generis concepts for films that you can't really categorize this film neatly or easily in one genre or another.
Because it's just such a brilliant concept that it transcends genre.
It's just a great idea and a great film.
And this is something that's so—it's sort of like when you read a short story about somebody literally hanging off of a cliff, right?
And you talk about the sweat beating down from their forehead and all this, and you can just feel, oh, this person's about to fall.
And that concept of that suspense is such a It's such a simple idea, in the primitive brain of man, creates fear, creates tension in us, that it's compelling.
And in the same way, this idea that this one man is running away from the law, right, which they eventually did this again in The Bourne Identity, one man versus the entire police force after him, you know.
But this was kind of the initial project in which you saw this play out in the movie theater.
And it was just done really, really well, but it was a simple idea from beginning to end.
And those two things in combination, simple idea, executed excellently, makes a brilliant picture.
And also, I mean, you know, a masterpiece scene that kind of was hyped up hugely at the time.
This no CGI here, a real train hitting a real bus at full speed.
This cost over a million dollars, took weeks to prepare, was a one-take stunt.
And Eric, what did you tell me yesterday about the site where this was actually done in real life?
It was in the woods in North Carolina as you said most of the film was shot there and the wreckage of that train and the bus are still there to this day.
We might have to make a trip to the site of the stunt, the classic stunt from the movie.
But there's also another aspect of this that makes it even more unique or so generous,
is that unlike the Bourne Identity or Mission Impossible or all of those other ones, this isn't some super agent.
This isn't some killing machine.
This is just a doctor, right?
This is a normal person, no special training, no special background, but he uses his intelligence,
his contacts, people who help him, like the old black guy who runs the archives at the
hospital.
He uses his own innate capability to uncover who actually killed his wife and stay one step above, in front of the law.
So I think, Chris, that's another reason why It's it's enjoyable because you can relate.
This isn't some, you know, super Muay Thai secret agent.
It's just just a doctor.
Have you ever noticed the way that Harrison Ford punches as well?
Yes.
He doesn't punch like a fighter.
He just kind of goes, you know, like he's got this weird old man punch, but it looks great.
I mean, it just looks it looks so Harrison Ford, you know, there are moments in this where I When I commented to Katie, I said, oh, look, there's Indiana Jones.
Because when he's herding, when he's running, he has this funny gait.
And you don't need the leather jacket or the fedora.
You can recognize somebody you know from a great distance, even if their face is not visible, simply from their gait.
And this guy has a unique gait.
Interesting little tidbit here.
The other people who were chosen or they wanted to have for this, they wanted Alec Baldwin.
Kevin Costner, Michael Douglas.
Harrison Ford took it.
You know why?
Well, one of the reasons they say he took it, because he hated always having to be clean shaven,
and he wanted to be in a movie where he wears a beard for most of the first part of the movie.
Actors are so weird, don't you think, Chris?
He took this because he wanted to have a beard.
That's why I took this job.
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Yes, sir?
What are you doing?
I'm thinking.
Well, think me up a cup of coffee and a chocolate donut with some of those little sprinkles on top, will you, as long as you're thinking?
All right, I'm going to get a little technical here, because I want to ask a thespian.
I want to ask an actor.
I don't know, Chris, there's something unique about Tommy Lee Jones.
Just that little, what was it, 12 second clip.
He's grumpy.
He's irritated.
But then he says, make sure you put the sprinkles on my donut.
That line.
would be hard to deliver in a way that doesn't mess up everything that went before it, meaning he's not a grumpy guy, or it just screws it all up and the whole thing's a comedy.
Tommy Lee Jones, just, he is made for this role of grumpy guy who's also funny.
Am I reading too much into his performance?
No, no, no.
It's really a strange performance because he kind of delivers everything the same way, but some lines are kind of funny.
Some lines, he actually is more irritated.
And that adds to the charm.
You know, you're talking about how you can identify how Harrison Ford runs very easily from a distance.
You know that's Harrison Ford.
You know, certain actors, the reason they get paid so much money, I figured this out a while back, Uh, it's that they're kind of weird, right?
This is a kind of quirky, you know what I mean?
Like, uh, there's nothing like Jack Nicholson is a weird dude.
Yes.
You know what I mean?
Like, there's nothing about him that if you met him in real life, you would be like, Oh yeah, yeah.
This is like, you know, you remind me of my uncle.
No, no.
Uh, Jack Nicholson doesn't remind anyone of anyone.
No.
Jack Nicholson is just Jack Nicholson.
And I think the same is true maybe to a slightly lesser extent, uh, of Harrison Ford.
Harrison Ford, He's relatable in some ways.
He does remind you of your uncle in other ways, in some ways.
But he is also a very unique guy with very unique stylistic aspects to him.
What's unique about Ford for you?
What's that?
What's unique about Ford for you?
I think I told you once there was this line in Temple of Doom where he's yelling through this little square hole as they're about to be crushed and his face is totally contorted and he goes, we are going to die!
And his face is completely distorted.
It's such an exaggerated expression.
And yet it still almost somehow seems understated.
Somehow everything Harrison Ford does, no matter how extreme he speaks or shouts, it all seems subtle somehow.
I don't know how he does it.
And he's got this great way of screaming, right?
He's like, Chewie, turn it off!
You know, everything's this kind of rough You know, a fist-shaking shout when he's aggressive.
And when he speaks quietly, he's still got this, like, rumbling tone to him.
He almost seems like an old man.
That is one aspect of some actors that I think, you know, is fairly common, right?
Who is it that you mentioned before who was in... who was in... 1979's Superman... Oh, Gene Hackman.
Gene Hackman.
Yeah.
Gene Hackman's kind of the same way.
We saw him in Young Frankenstein.
Yes.
And Gene Hackman, he was like an old man at age 30.
I think probably Tommy Lee Jones was like an old man at like 14.
Some of these actors, they just have this gravitas to them like they're curmudgeonly old men, even though they're maybe not that old.
And I think that adds to something.
You have an instant respect for them.
You know, they command respect on screen.
And I don't know about you, but I just love the ensemble cast, Joe Pantoloni and the other marshals.
They work.
They work together, don't they?
There's the goofy kid who's scared when, you know, Tommy Lee Jones saves him.
You know, there's the sassy black woman.
There's Pantoloni, who's the sarky little Italian.
They are, you know, cliches, but it works.
Yeah, in fact, you it might have even been better in the film to see more of them working together and giving each other crap and joking around and, you know, maybe better define their relationship.
Because if you've seen the movie multiple times, I think then you'll get a sense of what that group of people is like.
And it works really, really well.
But this movie is so fast paced, that you don't really get a chance to enjoy that ensemble group, as well as I think you should have because I think it was actually a very good group.
Uh, that's one thing about this film that's a little, uh, I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing.
I mean, I think it works, but it is a very fast-paced film where, yeah, toward the beginning, there's a lot of setup, but then it's like cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut.
And this scene, by the way, where they shot, uh, at the, uh, St.
Patrick's Day parade, This was an actual St.
Patrick's Day parade.
They didn't, I mean, it was so chaotic, this shoot.
They didn't even, like, set this up.
They just said, OK, we're going to do some guerrilla filmmaking.
You join the crowd and they're shooting Tommy Lee Jones and Harrison Ford in the crowd in a real parade, running around.
And they're just shooting it, hoping they get enough footage that they can cut it together.
And it worked out great.
I mean, this film, this film is a weird movie.
But they did a great job.
They did absolutely a banger, banger job.
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I guess I'll take over your investigation.
On what authority?
Governor of the state of Illinois, United States Marshal's Office, 5th District, Northern Illinois.
Alright, fine.
Uh, you want jurisdiction over this mess?
You got it.
Okay boys, gather around here and listen up!
Uh, we're shutting it down.
Wyatt Earp's here to mop up.
Sam, where are you going?
We're gonna need Sam.
Sam, excuse me.
Sam.
Wyatt Earp is taking over Sheriff Rawlins.
He's not impressed.
He's getting a little bit sarcastic.
And, as soon as I heard that voice, I said to my wife, I recognize that voice.
Who is that?
He may have a lot more hair back in 1993, but it is unmistakable.
We should get him on the show.
Nick Circe!
Are you there?
I'm here.
It's sad to see how old I've gotten, but that really was me.
That voice is absolutely unmistakable.
You're our surprise guest today for Making Movies Great Again with my co-host, the one and only Chris Coles.
Nick, so excited that you could join us at last minute when I thought, We've got to get this guy on the show, because we've had some... You're in very good company.
So far, in our movie reviews, we've only had three surprise guests.
One of them, David Mamet for The Untouchables, and then Jon Voight for Deliverance.
So you're in good company, my friend.
You're in good company.
I certainly am.
It's a good company to be in.
Absolutely.
Alright, so Chris, I'm sure has got some questions for you.
Tell us about your experience working on this movie in the scene around the incredible train bus crash.
Well, the craziest thing about this movie is that I originally auditioned to be one of the gang, to be one of Tommy Lee's gang.
Wow.
And it wound up that I didn't fit in there for whatever reason, probably because I had a Southern accent.
But they liked me, and so they decided to use me as the sheriff.
And the other crazy thing about it was that this was six months after I had finally moved to Los Angeles from North Carolina.
And they shot that train scene in my hometown.
Are you kidding?
I know it's going to be North Carolina, but that's your hometown?
That's my hometown.
They flew me back to Sylvan, North Carolina and they said, you know, do you need a hotel room?
And I said, no, I'll just stay with my parents.
It's fine.
And what kind of a shoot was it?
What was it like working with the director?
It was clearly a night shoot.
How long were you there and what was it like working with Mr. Davis?
It was very cold.
Andrew Davis was great.
We shot at night.
The train wreck is actually still there.
They just wrecked the train and left it there in Sylva.
You can go and see it if you want to.
But yeah, it was an interesting shoot because Tommy Lee didn't really like the way I played the role.
He said so at the rehearsal.
He said, you know, I think you're playing him too intelligent.
I think you should dumb him down a little bit like he's a stupid redneck.
And I said, well, I don't see the role that way, Tommy Lee, and I think he kind of is just like maybe a politician who's in over his head, but I don't really want to play him like he's a like a dumb hick.
I've been playing too many dumb hicks lately.
And how did Tommy Lee Jones react to your pushback?
He didn't like it.
He didn't like me very much after that.
Andrew Davis was a nice guy, but he wouldn't take up for me.
He was like, yeah, Ty, it's a good point, Nick.
And I said, nah, I'm not going to do that.
Chris, you've never had that as an actor, have you, Chris?
You've never had your fellow actors give you grief because they're more famous?
Well, you know what?
I do think that there is a little bit of ego that goes on on sets most of the time.
You will get at least somebody who is, I don't know, some actors, they get a little nervous because they think, oh, I don't want this person to overshadow me or I want to make sure That things are framing my character exactly as I want.
You even have characters that will try to change major aspects of their role while they're shooting, talking to the director and stuff.
And it's like, you can't do that.
I mean, some actors are very scared.
They're very scared of the director.
They're very scared of the other actors.
They're very scared of everybody on set.
So they just obey and do everything that they're told and they don't get out of line.
But then other actors, they got an ego and they'll push back and things like this.
So yeah, I mean, every set's different.
Every actor's different.
You just kind of got to roll with the punches and deal with the people as they come.
And it's nice that you pushed back.
That was great.
Say this about Tommy Lee.
He rewrote his entire role.
He improvised almost everything.
We were wondering, Chris actually said earlier, was this script written for him or did he just like do it himself?
He rewrote it for himself, absolutely.
Okay, I think it shows.
Alright, you may not have got the job on The Marshal's Posse in this movie, but you are rather well known, not just for guest hosting for The Great Rush Limbaugh, but for a certain role you played for many years in the TV show Justified, and you've got a brand new book out, Justify This.
Tell us, Nick, about especially the subtitle here, A Career Without Compromise.
Well, you know, Seb, the thing people always ask me is, how do you still continue to work, even though you run your mouth about not being a Democrat?
And I really don't know.
But basically, I don't think they pay attention.
I think they don't know who I am or whatever.
But I've been very fortunate.
And this is a book that's not necessarily about politics, but it's just sort of about How a kid from North Carolina who didn't know any actors decided to be an actor and how it all happened for me.
And what word of advice, give us the number one Nick Searcy rule for being a success and for insulating yourself from, you know, Holly Weird and staying normal and a patriot.
What advice do you give to the people, you know, in the industry who are still duking it out with the loonies?
My advice would be, number one, don't be afraid.
Be yourself.
You don't have to be obnoxious, but you know, don't be afraid of these people.
And number two, just keep at it.
Don't accept it when they tell you no.
That's kind of what I did.
I just outlasted everybody.
And I think I didn't really start making a living as an actor until I was 31 or 32.
Wow.
I just basically ran everybody else out until there was nobody left but me.
And then he moves to L.A.
and then they give him a job back in his hometown.
Chris, questions for the great Nick Ciaci?
About Fugitive or anything else?
Well, you know, it is a great question how you stay grounded.
It is a great question how you stay conservative.
But I kind of get what you mean.
Like, the lefties in Hollywood, they don't want to hear a conservative idea.
So they would not even listen to a show or listen to a radio program in which you might appear.
So it could very well be That there are people that would not work with you in Hollywood, but because they don't know about you, I think that that's absolutely fascinating.
But, you know, what do you think about the direction of Hollywood?
Do you see?
Because I see a little bit of this where I see actors who are and even producers and like high level people who are sort of closeted conservatives.
They'll kind of tell me privately, but they'll say, don't talk about it to anybody.
Don't let anybody know.
How do you think it's going?
Do you think that it's shifting a little bit more right?
I think that it is, but it's incremental.
I mean, it's a very small shift, but I think people are less afraid now, and that's because, you know, the woke Hollywood has been destroying itself for the last few years, and people have stopped purchasing or buying a lot of their products, their movies are failing.
The only reason they're able to keep going right now is everybody's addicted to these subscription services where you're just sort of paying for the whole and all and you pay for everything on it. You're not buying
a ticket to a single movie.
So but I think more and more people are realizing that the audience out there is getting a little
sick of this relentless sort of one-sided portrayal of everything and I think it's
going to open things up a little bit. All right stay with us Nick.
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Okay, before we have a rating, we have to rate the movie as we do all of our movies.
Final thoughts from you, Chris, and final thoughts from our special guest Nick Sirsi about this movie, which, oh, we always have to do the rundown.
Cost, I always get, you know, It's hilarious when you look at the figures for making blockbusters you know back in the 90s.
44 million including the train stunt.
44 million to make this movie and grossed 370 million.
Not too shabby an investment.
We haven't mentioned other people in the cast.
Julianne Moore.
Tiny role for Julianne Moore and of course I love Are we going to give it away, spoilers?
The bad guy, Jerome Krabbe, was rather excellent as Chuck, although why he called a Danishman Chuck is kind of confusing.
Chris, final thoughts on The Fugitive?
Look, you pointed out the ending and how he does come around at the very, very end there.
And I actually love how they set that up.
It's a little bit of a convoluted story, I would say.
It's a little bit difficult to follow.
I had to say that I think when I was a kid watching this for the first time, I don't even think I understood what happened.
I had to pay very close attention this time around.
And I understood incrementally what happens.
And there's a moment when Tommy Lee Jones and They're in the hospital, and they see a guy with one arm walking past them, and they kind of look at each other, and they follow this guy into this sort of amputee room.
And it's at that point when I figured, okay, now they know why Richard Kimball is there.
He's trying to solve the murder.
Still, Tommy Lee Jones doesn't indicate that he believes that Harrison Ford's character is innocent, but you can tell that it's in his mind a little bit.
It's really subtle storytelling.
I think that was the real genius of this film.
Is that they put all these plot elements in place, but they didn't spoon feed you anything.
Everything was like really subtle and slowly delivered.
And then by the end of the film, there's this moment where, you know, Dr. Richard Kimball essentially saves Tommy Lee Jones's character, saves his life, you know, hitting the villain with a club or a pipe, I think it was.
And so Tommy Lee Jones turns around, points the gun at him, walks toward him, and then just sort of casually lowers the gun.
And says to him just, I believe he says something like, you know, I'm glad all this is over.
I'm tired.
Something like that, right?
Just talking to him like a normal person.
And in that moment, you realize, okay, they're actually on the same side now.
Now, he's of course explained that he knows he's innocent and all this stuff, but it's not clear if that's a bluff or not, but it's in that moment where he lowers his gun and he just talks to him as a fellow human being.
They're like, all right, these two guys are on the same side.
And then they cap it off at the end where he uncuffs him and he gives him an ice pack and everything and shows he cares about him a little bit.
He's a human being.
He's a human being.
And it's nice.
There's nice closure to the end of the film.
And I'll tell you what, in the 90s this was a problem.
Films sometimes led up to something.
that you would expect to be this really brilliant, satisfying ending, and then it would end crap.
You know, then it would end really, really poorly. So big problem in the early 90s,
especially, I noticed. But this film, they did that ending justice. They let up and they had
a satisfying conclusion at the end, which I love about this movie. Nick, I have to ask,
did you ever watch the original TV show in the 60s with Michael, with David Janssen?
Absolutely.
I remember the very last episode, which was the most watched episode in the world at that time.
I remember it.
I remember sitting up with my parents.
I must have been six or seven, you know.
The moment I remember most about this movie, because I actually thought about it when I was playing a U.S.
Marshal for six seasons, there's a moment where I can't remember exactly where they were, but Harrison Ford is explaining to him that he's innocent, and Tommy Lee Jones looks at him and says, I don't care.
And that's the whole thing about being a U.S.
Marshal.
When you're a U.S.
Marshal, your job is to go get the fugitive.
It's not to decide whether he's innocent or guilty.
You just have this task that you have to perform.
And that always informed me, you know, whenever we all through the show and that was that we held that idea to be true and justified is that we're not here to decide justice.
We're here to bring this guy in and that's it.
We don't care whether he's guilty or not, we just have to bring him in.
And a beautiful segue to Nick's new book, Justify This!
Justify This!
Six seasons in that superb TV show.
Nick, let me ask as we close out here.
By the way, Chris, what unit of measure?
We always pick a unit of measure.
Is it going to be out of 10 blood samples in a liver experiment or doughnuts with sprinkles?
Is it going to be doughnuts with sprinkles?
Well, I think it's got to be fake arms.
Fake arms?
Oh, prosthetic arms.
We were rated out of ten prosthetic arms while you're thinking.
Nick, you've been a busy bee.
You've got a new book.
You did a movie, Terror on the Prairie, for the Daily Wire.
For my colleague, my friend, Dinesh D'Souza, you were in the Police State movie as well.
Everybody needs to watch that.
It's a documentary about what's happened to the deep state and our rights in America.
You can watch it at SalemNow.com.
I'm curious, what do you think the future is?
You talked about these streaming platforms and people getting fed up of paying whatever it is, $16, $17, $18, and then having to fund all this other garbage on their platform.
What's the future?
Is it everybody putting their own videos out on Rumble?
Are we going to have conservatives build their own studios?
What would Nick seriously like to see and what does he expect?
I think what it's going to ultimately get to at some point is a pure pay-per-view.
Pay on demand for what you want.
So each thing, you just pay for each film, each TV show?
Yeah, that's where I think we're headed.
I also have a film that's coming out May 17th which is a sequel to Capital Punishment called The War on Truth.
And it's going to be at thewarontruthmovie.com.
It's also going to be on the Salem Now website.
And that's an example of, you know, our movie wouldn't be accepted by Netflix or Amazon because it's It tells the truth about January 6th and they want to keep the pie going.
So I think eventually we're all going to get to a point where we're just purchasing what we want to see and we're not paying, we're not subsidizing all the garbage that you're subsidizing if you subscribe to Netflix.
Well, when The War on Truth comes out, we'll have you on the show for a whole hour.
In the meantime, get the book Justify This and follow Nick at yesnicksissy.
Alright, nothing left to do, Chris, except rate The Fugitive and pick our next movie.
So, how many prosthetic arms out of ten for a modern audience do you give The Fugitive?
Don't forget, Nick was in it and he's listening right now.
Well, Nick, the way that I tend to rate these films, we have different scoring systems.
And I rate it specifically out of how a modern audience might go back and watch it.
Because we typically review films from the 80s, early 90s, even all the way back into the 30s.
And some of these films are a little bit, I think, hard to digest for a modern audience, even if they're considered a classic of cinema. And but you know what this one I think is very
digestible. I think that this is a kind of a timeless film really. There's not a lot of stuff in this
movie that I think dates it very strongly.
Obviously the cars and some of the outfits and stuff but I think for the most part this is kind
of a timeless film that you can watch in any era and you can enjoy it.
I think the score is amazing.
I think that it's stylistically of its era, but not so much so that it's difficult to watch.
And that guy who played the Sheriff, he was pretty good.
That Sheriff Rawlins guy.
You know what?
The best performance in cinema history, I think, probably.
No, I think everyone will go back.
I think they can enjoy all of the actors.
Everybody was brilliantly cast in this.
It was just a really well-made production.
So I'm not gonna give the highest score because I think that there are some films that people are going to absolutely love.
But I think that people will love this in a very solid way.
I think this is an 8.
8 out of 10 prosthetic arms.
Wow, wow.
You're a mind reader.
I rate it out of the galaxy of all movies.
And not for a modern audience, just in the catalog.
And I, too, give it an 8 out of a 10.
It's just a rip-roaring thriller.
No flab, no fat.
You know, you can't get bored watching it.
I mean, I told you, I watched it with Katie a couple of months ago, so it's fresh in my mind.
I know who the killer is, I know how it ends, and I had To watch the whole film intently.
Alright, 8 out of 10.
Last thing we have to do is choose the movie next week.
You said you try and keep things light, a little bit light, and then maybe now and again do something heavy like this one.
Dude, are you ready for heavy?
Oh, no.
Okay, yeah, here we go.
You tested me last week on a quote from The Fugitive that I failed.
This one is a little bit easier.
Are you not entertained?
I was literally just thinking about this film like two days ago.
Alright, with a guy who's almost as handsome as I am, my double when I do any stunts, Russell Crowe, the Gladiator from 2000.
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