Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Harlem loves President Trump
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I should be right now in Pennsylvania, in Florida, in many other states, North Carolina, Georgia, campaigning.
This is all coming from the Biden White House, because the guy can't put two sentences together.
He can't campaign.
They're using this in order to try and win an election.
And it's not working that way.
It's working the opposite way.
So check it out.
Legal expense.
It's called legal expense.
That's what you're supposed to call it.
Nobody's ever seen it.
Nobody has ever seen anything like it.
He should be on the campaign trail.
That was President Trump outside the court in Manhattan yesterday.
He should be in Pennsylvania.
Guess who was in Pennsylvania?
The kid from Scranton who can't pronounce the word Scranton.
This was also yesterday.
Joe Biden cut to.
My grandfather would tell me when I walked out the door in North Washington Avenue in Scranton.
I'm sorry.
Just play it again.
My grandfather would tell me when I walked out the door in North Washington Avenue in Scranton.
Scranton.
It's not a difficult word.
It's got two syllables.
Scran-ton.
Ton.
It's not like press the digitation.
It's not like anti-disestablishmentarianism.
It's two syllables.
Allegedly you lived there, as you were brought up by the Puerto Rican Jewish... Well, Jeff, what were the other communities that Joe Biden has said he's been brought up by in the last few speeches?
Let's see here.
Lots of black churches.
Lots of Puerto Rican churches.
He always goes the Irish.
The Irish.
We're missing something.
We're missing something.
I know he's a truck driver that one time, too, but what else is there?
Puerto Rican.
Puerto Rican, Irish, Jewish.
Amtrak, too.
Israel.
Choo-woo!
On an Amtrak.
Okay.
Can we just dig up, while I'm talking, guys, just play the B-roll of what President Trump did yesterday.
Can you find the B-roll of him going into the bodega?
And what some of you may have missed about this, just... I'm sorry, I'm a cynical...
Bar steward as they say but whoever's running the campaign I mean look we've got our buddies that we know of Jason Miller but he's super busy I know he's writing a lot of the the video texts that the president is reading we've got Steve Chung who does a lot of the social media along with that genius Dan Scavino so I don't know who's planning these impromptu What do they call these?
Retail... Eric, what's the phrase here?
Retail campaign?
What do they call these?
I honestly couldn't tell you.
I would think, I think back to like the 60s, like train stop campaigns, like what Nixon used to do.
Retail politics.
Sorry, retail.
I never understood why.
Why is it called retail politics, Jeff?
What does that mean?
Because you're going into a shop?
I don't know that, but I know that Ron DeSantis is the worst at it and he tried it.
Right.
Oh, hang on.
When he was doing, was he doing the egg thing?
The eggs on a stick?
Yeah, all this stuff in Iowa that worked out well for him.
Just keep playing the B-roll.
So after court yesterday, In this travesty, it's not even justice, it's this travesty of lawfare, President Trump stops at the bodega.
Alex, did you catch which bodega this was?
No, what is it?
This is the bodega that Jose Alba used to run from Puerto Rico or Dominican Republic who stabbed the man who was trying to rob his store.
Do you remember that case?
I do, yes sir.
This is the same bodega, okay, where he was attacked He stabbed the person attacking him, killed him, and Alvin Bragg put him in Rikers for defending his store until there was such protest that they had to release him.
And what did the owner do, the immigrant?
He went back home.
He said, I'm sorry.
New York is too dangerous under the Democrats, under Alvin Bragg, and he left America.
He sold it to somebody else.
President Trump dropped in yesterday.
Apparently there's some association of bodega owners in New York, and they invented, they invited the president.
What does Jill Biden call them?
Bogotas.
The Bogotas.
The Bogotas of, okay, no, Bodega, okay?
And President Trump went in, he gave a little speech.
We'll find that and we'll play that later in the hour.
But then, and this was Caroline Leavitt.
She confirmed this for me of the campaign.
She had her phone out and she saw some kids who were screaming at the president I love you Trump!
I love you Trump!
We love Trump!
I love you Trump!
We love Trump!
what maybe 10 years old, maybe five years old, a black boy, a white girl and what do
they scream at the president? Cut one.
I love you Trump! I love you Trump! We love Trump! We love Trump!
We want Trump! We want Trump! We want Trump!
Alright, I'm gonna talk to Mr. Cynicism.
Mr. G, I don't know.
I think that's just bloody genius.
Does it make a difference?
I mean, it's Harlem.
It's Harlem.
While I was watching his little trip to the Bogota, that little crowd that just formed there, that's larger than Biden's had at any event this year.
That's not even an exaggeration.
Just right there in Harlem, just outside, they're trying to climb over.
He's not even doing a speech or anything.
And there's more people than Biden's had at any campaign event.
And to have just the image of that, Jeff, have young kids start the chant, we love you Trump.
Does it indicate something bigger?
I think it matters that CNN and MSNBC refuse to show it or even mention it.
Or they would usually make fun of something like this.
Saying that he's trying to play to these people.
They didn't even mention it.
It does seem like this is not a one-off, too.
There's been like five or six of these now.
These situations where you never expect to see Trump supporters.
And they're there and they're passionate, too.
They're not just there.
They're screaming and yelling.
My friend Andrew Clavin said this to me, and I think he might be right.
We don't want to tempt fate.
We don't want to jinx it.
But this case, of all the places to have the worst instance of lawfare, New York?
How dumb are you, Democrats?
New York?
This is where President Trump built his fortune.
This is where he fixed that ice skating rink that the government couldn't fix.
This is where Trump Tower soars into the skyline.
And every time you force him, instead of allowing him to go to his son's high school graduation, instead of allowing him to sit with his attorneys in the highest court of the land, the Supreme Court, To hear the arguments on his presidential immunity as it applies to his control as president of classified documents.
You're going to force him on the penalty of being put in irons and in jail?
To sit in that court and then you tee up these organic moments every day.
Not just outside the court with impromptu press conferences, but then stopping by.
You know, it was the Chick-fil-A in Orlando.
Now it's the Bogada.
Bogada.
What did she call it?
Of Harlem and the kids.
The kids are chanting for him.
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Just how stupid are the Democrats?
Can you get the clip, Jeff, of what he said outside the Bogadar yesterday?
He says that's the last cut.
Oh, good!
Can you play it for me?
Can I see it?
Twelve.
Come on, give it to him.
That's a different angle.
I saw one of him with the shot behind him.
be given back their authority. They have to be able to do their job. And we're going to
come into New York. We're making a big play for New York. I love this city, and it's gone
so bad in the last three years, four years, and we're going to straighten New York out.
So, running for president, we're putting a...
That's a different angle. I saw one of him with the shot behind him.
Yeah, that's him facing to the left of the shot.
I will tell you this, if you believe...
The Harlem Dagobah.
That's the first thing I thought of.
What even is a Bottega?
I'd never heard of that before, prior to that story.
Just a little shop that sells snacks and cigarettes.
Okay.
Must be an East Coast thing.
Oh, you want mics on?
He's on the line.
Oh, you want the mics on? He's on the line.
Two minutes.
two hours.
That's where the Biden's is.
What business did Joe Biden's family own?
What business were they in?
Did they have hotels?
Did they have a social media company?
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Mr. Carden.
Thank you.
Mr. Carper.
Mr. Casey.
Mr. Cassidy.
Ms.
Collins.
Okay, they're doing another vote.
As you can tell, Senior Congressional Correspondent Chad Pergram watching all of this for us expertly from Capitol Hill.
So, Chad... Happening right now in the Senate.
The trial of Secretary Mayorkas has begun.
Impeached months ago in the House.
I don't know what took so long for them to get it to the Senate.
Will it go anywhere?
Well, no.
We don't have the numbers, but Doesn't really matter, I don't think.
Why?
Because you get the truth out.
That's the purpose of this, unlike the fake impeachments of President Trump that didn't prove anything except the dementia of the left.
Here, we actually have the goods on perhaps, I think, the most evil person in the administration, a guy who I'm sure Would not have any problems with burning books.
Wow, that's a clever segue.
It joins the topic of the Parents' Revolt, a book just out.
My wife has been involved deeply in the Parents' Revolt.
It's by our good friend Corey DeAngelis, Senior Fellow at School Choice, now also with the Hoover Institution.
Corey, welcome back to America First.
Hey Sebastian, thanks for having me. I'm a bit worried about the red fists raised on the cover
of your book, or even if they have a pencil in them and in the fist on an AK. Of course,
it's a reference to the socialists, the commies who are taking over our schools.
You DM'd me, I think yesterday or this morning, with a very shocking tweet. Let's put it up.
This is the spine of your book. It is the parent revolution.
And someone called Rachel Schulte wrote this.
Good day for a book-burning party.
Is she one of these red MAGA hat-wearing extremists we hear of who wants to burn books, Corey?
No, she's a hypocrite, far leftist.
She's actually the Teachers Union executive board member in Wisconsin.
And she later on deleted that tweet after it being up all day.
But it really just goes to show you these people are total hypocrites, the same yahoos
who are complaining about conservatives, banning books, in other words, just removing sexually
explicit content from elementary school libraries.
They're the ones actually calling to burn books that they disagree with.
Hopefully all the teachers unions don't go out and buy a bunch of copies of the parent
revolution and burn them.
That would hurt my feelings so much.
I hope they don't do that.
Yeah, hey, by the way, Democrats, he still gets paid, okay?
If you buy the book and you burn it, Corey still gets the money.
So just go and buy some, and then we'll actually see you for who you are when you burn them.
All right, the book is out imminently.
You're going to have a launch party here in DC.
Tell us about the parent revolution, rescuing your kids from the radicals and ruining our schools.
Is it really a revolution?
Is it across the country?
You're in the ground.
You talk to these parents.
Tell us what's happening.
Absolutely.
For far too long, the only special interests in the K-12 education system that had any power were the unions that represented the adults, the employees in the system.
But now the kids have a union of their own.
They're called parents.
And the teachers' unions, it's really their own fault.
They've pushed to keep the schools closed as long as possible over the past few years to try to extort taxpayer money from American citizens all across the country.
It worked for them in the short run, but it quickly backfired because remote learning showed parents, particularly conservative parents, what was going on in the classroom.
A lot of families thought their kids were in good public schools because of their test score ratings, math and reading, or maybe an A rating from the state.
But those same parents who thought that things were okay started to realize that things were not what they thought to be to begin with.
And they saw that there was CRT in the classroom, gender ideology, and that woke up parents
to push for the school choice revolution so they could have real power, so that the school
boards don't label them as domestic terrorists or cut off their mics.
When you have school choice, if you can take your money with you, well, the schools have
an incentive to actually listen to you, as opposed to trying to bully and silence you
into submission.
Now we've had 11 states in the past three years alone go all in on school choice.
No picking winners and losers.
Everybody is eligible to take their kids' education dollars, getting your taxpayer dollars back, to take to a public school if you want or to a private or home-based education option.
These are all red states.
It is a school choice revolution in Republican states.
In the short run, the GOP has picked up the football and become the parents' party in some ways.
And the revolution hasn't stopped.
We've had Louisiana just last week, their House passed a universal school choice bill by a vote of 72 to 32 with supermajority support.
And there's more wins this year.
Wyoming passed their first initiative for school choice this year.
Georgia passed their first education savings account program this year.
It's so much winning.
Sebastian, I'm almost getting tired of winning.
Never, never, never, never get tired of winning.
We're not going to be done until we get California.
Can we conclude that we have the communist Chinese regime and the Wu flu to thank for the parents' revolution because finally parents saw what their kids were learning on Zoom?
Yes, the teachers unions have inadvertently done more to advance the concepts of school choice and homeschooling than anyone could have ever imagined.
We should create an award specifically for Randy Weingarten of the American Federation of Teachers and present it to her for being the best school choice advocate, although inadvertently over the past few years.
They fought to keep the schools closed.
They got a lot of money from taxpayers, $190 billion in so-called covert relief, but they made a fool of themselves.
You have the Chicago Teachers Union deleting tweets saying that the push to reopen schools is rooted in racism, sexism, and misogyny.
We later found out this year that their president out there of CTU, Stacey Davis-Gates, She called school choice racist last year, called private school segregation academies last year, and now she sends her own son to a private school.
Total hypocrites.
Wow.
One last question for you.
I don't want to, you know, undermine your message, but a little bit of a devil's advocacy here.
When we see lunacy, You know, woke, garbage, lunacy, 1619 Project and stuff like that being used in private schools.
Is school choice the answer or will the market be the answer?
It's both of those is the answer.
School choice is a market mechanism reform where, look, if families can vote with their feet, the public schools will have an incentive to focus more on the basics as opposed to indoctrination.
And look, you don't have to take your kids' education dollars to a woke private school.
You could choose a conservative Christian private school.
choose religious private schools, that decision should be in the hands of the parents.
And the bigger issue is that today, we force kids into a one-size-fits-all system.
You're forced to pay for it, and you have no choice in the matter.
And when you try to fight back, they try to silence and bully you into submission.
This is the best step forward.
It's not a perfect solution.
We should also try to fix the public school system at the same time with other reforms.
But you should also be able to vote with your feet to a school that's aligned with your
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Any comments or questions before GD does anything else?
Mic's on.
They have to... Yeah, mic's up.
They have to buy my book before they burn it!
Exclamation.
You wanna do Casio?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh...
Two...
Mm-hmm.
Um...
Bye!
Three.
Five.
Oh, excuse me!
Oh my gosh, my hay fever.
Springtime.
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And ten.
Alright, two.
Scranton Joe can't say the word Scranton.
Hashtag senile.
Well, isn't this interesting?
Joy Reid and Chris Hayes admit that Mark Milley, that put general in quotes, General Mark Milley was a traitor.
Oh, and start that with famous homophobe Joy Reid and Chris Hayes.
And then five.
Could President Trump be the next Nelson Mandela, question mark, at Alina Haber on the political prosecution of the 45th president?
And then 10.
Illegals being encouraged to vote for Biden.
No, Dan Bishop has the evidence of illegals being told to vote for Biden, but Majorca says DHS has nothing to do with it, which is really weird since they're the ones who Secured, in quotes, secured the 2020 election.
Have we used 9?
Not... We came in with that, I think.
Yeah, come in with 12 here, then I'll do... What have I got here?
PhD?
My pillar.
Come in with 12 and then... And then we'll go to course.
Yup.
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Number one, you have to stop crime.
We're going to let the police do their job.
They have to be given back their authority.
They have to be able to do their job.
I love this city still, but this city, I love this city, and it's gotten so bad in the last three years, four years, and we're going to straighten New York out.
So, running for president, we're putting a bigger pit in New York.
We think we can win New York.
Half a million migrants poured in and took over the parks, they took over the hotels, they took over everything.
Poor man, he's just trying to do a press conference outside the bodega in Harlem.
And the people of Harlem, of all hue, of all color, start chanting, four more years, four more years.
Jeff, has Biden ever had an event where they shout four more years?
No, not at all.
Is he ever gonna have one?
I don't think so.
No.
I don't think so.
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Line one, John, San Diego.
Hey, Sebastian.
When Trump gets back in office, it's time for him to punish the government of New York City by having a couple of low tax rates Red States bid on becoming the new home of the New York Stock Exchange and Wall Street.
Nothing is keeping them there other than inertia.
I love it.
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John Genius, stay on the line.
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Let's give him the Trump did nothing wrong.
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Thank you for taking the call, Dr. Gorka.
I was calling about the attack that Iran did on Israel.
So, I think you've missed one of the ways that they...
You're breaking up a bit, are you?
Are you in motion?
Are you in a vehicle?
No, I'm sitting still.
Okay, carry on.
Okay, I'm sorry.
So, Iran, yes, they were trying to elicit a response from Israel, of which there should only be one.
You're breaking up, George.
Stay on the line.
Give Jeff your number and we'll call you back because you're constantly skipping and I want to hear your question about the Iranian attack.
Let's go to Don, line three.
Hey, Don!
Dr. G, Rolling Thunder, how are you today?
I'm good, I'm good.
It's been too long.
What's your comment?
What's your question, my friend?
Oh, well, real quickly, I know you're busy.
You know, we're having the upcoming aid on, you know, aid to Ukraine, aid to Israel, aid to Taiwan.
And I'm just stunned that it's not unanimous on our side to send aid to all three.
It's three free peoples, all are under attack, but for some reason people don't want to give
aid to Ukraine.
It's crazy.
They call us, people like us that want to send aid to Ukraine, warmongers.
I'm saying, no, the warmonger is Putin.
The warmonger is Mr. Xi.
The warmonger are the mullahs in Iran.
They're the warmongers.
And if we're trying to stand up to them, we're the bad guys.
We're the war hawks.
I don't think so.
You know, it's just people would stop and think it's just not right.
It's very simple.
It's the same.
The principle is the same.
The moral principle is the same.
Each one have their own practicalities.
Each one have their own issues.
But the basic issue on all three is it's free people under attack by our enemies.
And some of our people don't want to send some of them aid.
Look, Don, you know I agree with you when it comes to supporting those who are fighting for their freedom from invading bloodthirsty killers like Putin, because if it weren't for the French, the Dutch and the Portuguese in 1776 helping the Founding Fathers, helping George Washington, this would not be a free country today.
But I think what we're seeing is those who want accountability and don't want just lots
of money sloshing around going to Kiev and also the people have questions about the Biden
family's connections to Ukraine, Burisma and everything else.
So I think they just want transparency and they want prioritization of our border as
well.
But the bottom line is, Don, if you don't support those who are fighting invaders like
Russia, then America wouldn't exist today if it hadn't had its revolution supported
by other countries as well.
Thank you, my friend.
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All right, so we did.
We did 12.
Play 8 for me, please.
I do agree with George.
I think that his PR capabilities are going to be somewhat limited in New York City.
Or maybe it was John that mentioned that a moment ago.
That's absolutely true.
It's an ongoing concern because essentially he's like a caged animal.
And that's a dangerous situation.
He's feeling very threatened.
He's out of control.
And so we do expect him to lash out.
Anybody who has covered him over the past decade can expect that.
What is she talking about?
Trump, the way he's acting in the courtroom.
They've been acting like he's been going crazy in the courtroom, falling asleep.
So they love this.
Is he falling asleep or going crazy?
That's the thing.
See, they love this because they can make up whatever they want because there's nobody there.
And it'll be eight hours every day.
I just love that picture.
Can you get that picture for me, Eric, and let's use it?
They also said he was intimidating.
The cartoon of Trump from inside the courtroom.
Oh, the court drawing.
They said he's trying to intimidate witnesses.
Is this the one that had that Looney Tunes woman as the foreman?
Do you remember?
Like a year ago?
No, that was... Was that the civil trial?
I thought that was the civil trial.
The crazy lady, right, Geoff?
Do you remember the crazy lady?
The one who was, like, giggling about impeaching... That was Atlanta.
That was Atlanta.
She was, like, on the grand jury or whatever, yeah.
Again, you look at some of the juror bios and, like, yeah, this is hopelessly, like...
Another one, like, juror number one is an Irish immigrant.
That gives me a little bit of hope.
I know it's a stretch, but... And they only need one person to say not guilty.
Right, yeah.
In a criminal trial.
This is gonna take ages if we only got seven jurors.
They're so worried about the identity of him.
You watch this woman, one does not guilty, you will know his identity in five minutes.
You'll know it before the vote.
Where he lives, everything.
You'll know it all.
He'll be probably Russian, too.
That's what they'll do.
They'll put a Russian on there.
Is the line to George Benner?
Yeah, he said he'd turn his phone on and off, but he sounded fine when I was talking to him.
Alright, does he know that I've got a guest?
Uh, what do you mean?
Jesse Bernal.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's not...
I'm sorry.
That's less police!
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Cut five!
Do you think that this threat of 30 days in jail will change the social media actions of the former president in any way or will he keep doing this?
I don't think so.
I think that he is respectful, but there has to be boundaries and we should appeal it.
It's currently on appeal.
So there's also a due process element to this.
We have items on appeal in this case that have not yet been heard.
Is he concerned about the possibility of being sent to jail as a ramification?
No.
He's not concerned about being sent to jail?
I don't.
I think, like anybody, he's concerned about going to jail.
But if they put him in jail for his First Amendment right, he will be like Nelson Mandela.
I mean, that would be just absurd.
And frankly, they'll win him the election.
What is going on in that New York courtroom?
The left-wing media can say whatever they want because there are no cameras there.
Let's ask somebody who knows the legal ramifications of an unjust justice system, the president's attorney, Jesse Benal.
Welcome back to America First, my friend.
Thanks so much for having me, Dr. Gorka.
So, I'm a bit confused.
I'm not an attorney.
I studied a bit of international law in my post-grad days, but I thought gag orders are meant to protect the defendant.
Are they meant to protect the court?
No, you're exactly right.
The only way that we've had courts be able to, in the past, use things like gag orders is usually on prosecutors in order to protect the defendant's right to a fair and free trial.
The First Amendment, when it was considered by the Founders, the primary evil that they were concerned about when they passed the First Amendment was prior restraints on speech, injunctions against speech, because that's something that the British Empire had misused a lot.
In the time leading up to and including the American Revolution.
And a gag order is exactly that.
And especially when you get to the point of gagging the presumptive Republican nominee for president for talking about issues of public import during a presidential campaign, while his opponent is free to spew lies To the extent he can get a rational sentence out of his mouth, spew lies left and right, goes to the very heart of American democracy, and is a real threat against the rule of law.
And walk us through the concept of conflict of interest, Jesse, because I find it so outré, just beyond risible, that you have a judge, Juan Murchan, whose daughter is actually raising funds off her father's case as a Democrat strategist if you will who's received millions of dollars
from Adam Schiff, from Kamala Harris' campaign and then the president's attorneys asked for him to recuse
himself because obviously
it's not just a conflict of interest it's an apparent conflict of interest
and then what he says no and then that's it I mean
the judge says I'm all dandy I'm cool is that how it works?
It's not the way it's supposed to work and
it's a real again it's a threat to the American people being able to know
that we have a justice system where you have someone in a black robe sitting on a bench in a courtroom
that's dispensing justice
not engaging in politics We have these rules for judges, they're called the Canons of Judicial Conduct, and one of the things that is prohibited
is anything where a judge is being biased.
But the other thing that's prohibited is even the appearance of the judge being biased.
And that's because the parties have to be able to know that they got a fair shot when they are in court.
And the American public needs to know, again, that justice is being dispensed impartially.
So when you have a judge in this case who donated to Joe Biden, to Donald Trump's political rival, Um, which is actually unheard of.
I have never known a judge in my life who has made political donations while sitting on the bench for exactly these reasons.
And so the fact that he would even make a political donation is really preposterous.
But then the fact that he made a political contribution and is refusing to recuse himself is beyond the pale.
Then you get to the point that he has an immediate family member who has a financial interest in this case.
Who is making money based on the way that her father is conducting this trial.
That is something that is extremely serious.
And again, not only does it show partiality, but it's the appearance of bias in this point that makes it so nobody can trust the decisions coming out of his courtroom.
He said that he looked into his heart and he said he could be fair.
I'm still waiting to see any evidence of that.
We've only got 20 seconds left.
We're talking to Jesse Benal, Benal.com.
Follow him at JBenal.
Jesse, we have seven jurors so far.
Can he get a fair trial in one of the most Democrat cities in America?
Well, I mean, we're going to be able to see that, and the one thing that I'll say is there's a reason why these left-wing Democratic prosecutors like Alvin Bragg, Jack Smith, and Bonnie Willis are bringing these cases in heavily Democratic areas, because they hope he cannot get a fair trial.
They're going to do everything they can to make it so he cannot get a fair trial.
Follow this man, Jay Benal.
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you Let me ask you this.
What actions is the Department of Homeland Security taking to ensure that, especially given the millions of illegal entries, including 2 million gotaways, that non-citizens are being prevented from registering and voting unlawfully?
Individuals who are not citizens of the United States cannot vote in federal elections.
Ah, but that's not what I asked.
I asked what actions DHS is taking to ensure that that doesn't occur.
Well, two things.
Number one, I believe that it is state and local election officials.
that monitor the eligibility of individuals.
We do not oversee the election enrollment process.
What we do is enforce our borders and in fact...
So to say it shorter, nothing.
You You
You You
You If the president, you know likes his Homeland Security
secretary He serves at the pleasure of the president. The president
is going to do anything about it You're not going to get these votes in the Senate.
You don't even have all your Republican colleagues going along.
Six didn't even want to be any part of this.
So this seems more political theater than anything else.
Disavow me of that notion.
Well, I don't agree.
The United States House of Representatives has impeached a member of the cabinet for the first time in 140 some years.
To me, there is credible evidence.
Why is Neil Cavuto so irritating, Jeff?
I don't know.
He's like the leftover from like the Romney age.
Like the late 90s Republicans.
He's like a mini-me of Romney, isn't he?
Yeah, a little bit.
Pathetic.
I guess, you know, the House deciding something, we shouldn't allow the House to do that, right, Neil?
Because your rhino buddies didn't want it to happen?
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Hey, Dr. Gorka.
Much better, much better.
What's your point about the Iranian attack on Israel at the weekend?
So, I believe that Iran did that for two reasons, and in one way they won.
So one of the reasons, obviously, is they were trying to elicit a response from Israel, of which there should only be one.
Go in, decimate Hamas.
That's it.
The other reason why is I think that they launched a whole bunch of junk at us, knowing that if they cost them $500,000 to throw junk at us, and it costs the coalition $36 million to shoot it all down, financially they win.
Yeah, but I don't understand what making that observation, what the point of that is.
Should they just let all those drones and missiles land on apartment buildings in Tel Aviv?
Well, sure.
They didn't, who knows if they had guidance on them or anything.
Hang on a second.
They should have let those devices land on and detonate on civilian targets, George?
Absolutely not.
That's not, that's, I did not understand what you were saying.
Absolutely not.
They were supposed to shoot them down.
Right, so I'm not sure what the point of the observation is.
Iran attacked, Israel and the partner nations had to respond, correct?
Of course we have to respond, but in their eyes, from what I understand, the way that they think, Financially, it's just one slice of the apple.
Look at the far bigger thing.
That region of the world is about face, right?
How you look, reputation, who's the stronger tribe.
Iran looks like a joke now.
Literally hundreds of devices deployed and the only person they hurt is a Druze Arab girl.
They look pathetic, and they have Arab nations, Muslim nations, helping Israel, like Jordan.
It's a big loss for Iran.
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...is Congressman Dan Bishop, who made Alejandro Mayorkas sweat, and Mayorkas' response was really interesting.
Let's have a listen.
Cut ten.
Let me ask you this.
What actions is the Department of Homeland Security taking to ensure that, especially given the millions of illegal entries, including two million gotaways, that non-citizens are being prevented from registering and voting unlawfully?
Congressman, Individuals who are not citizens of the United States cannot vote in federal elections.
Ah, but that's not what I asked.
I asked what actions DHS is taking to ensure that that doesn't occur.
Well, two things.
Number one, I believe that it is state and local election officials.
that monitor the eligibility of individuals. We do not oversee the election enrollment
process. What we do is enforce our borders and in fact...
So to say it shorter, nothing.
For those of you who are listening and not watching, behind the congressman was a massive
enlargement of a leaflet in Spanish telling illegals to vote for Joe Biden. Yeah, a leaflet
being handed out to illegals saying vote for Biden.
And the Secretary of DHS says, oh, we're not involved, which is really weird.
Jeff, do you remember after the election, there was somebody from the Department of Homeland Security from the CISA, Cyber Security Infrastructure Security Agency.
Do you remember that person who went on record in Congress saying, That was the securest election we've ever had.
Do you remember that?
The most in history.
The most secure in history.
The most?
Yes.
And he was from DHS.
I'm confused.
I thought, I thought DHS doesn't do elections.
No, they only, when they, when Democrats win, they'll say it's the most secure in history.
They'll do that.
But then if...
Right before the election, they don't have anything to do with it, though.
That's how it works.
And what happens if, God willing, we do our part?
What happens if my old boss wins on November 5th?
What is DHS gonna say then?
Are they gonna say, We don't do elections!
Or are they gonna say, That was the most insecure election in history!
Oh, they'll find some shenanigans that went on, I guarantee.
Yeah, shenanigans.
And then, then things are gonna get interesting.
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I love you, Trump!
We love Trump!
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Well, here's what we should do.
Half the show should be that.
Then the other half of the show, I want to put together an hour of all these commentators that hate Trump now, that brought him back in like 2000 when they loved him, talking about how great he was.
We need a big loop of that too.
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In the meantime, let's talk about serious things like...
Movies and 80s trivia with our good friend Jennifer Horne.
She keeps Los Angeles sane on AM 870 AM 590 the answer CRN talk.com as well and follow her this instant do it right now at Jennifer Jennifer You like movies, right?
I love movies.
Of course.
Do you have any strange rules?
Like you won't watch a movie before the year you were born.
I No, that's Jeff's rule.
That's not my rule.
It's silly, isn't it?
No, it's a silly one.
There's some great old movies out there that I very much enjoy.
The Wizard of Oz.
A little weird, but I love it.
Hang on, hang on.
Eric, have we reviewed The Wizard of Oz on Friday?
We have not, in fact, reviewed Wizard of Oz yet.
Jeff, it's one of your favorites, right?
It's a good one.
Yeah, I see a house falls on my slippers.
A storm shelter?
Is that the whole thing?
Oh my god.
What about your kids?
Tell me your kids don't love The Wizard of Oz, Geoff.
I don't even think they know what The Wizard of Oz is.
I'm gonna have words with your wife.
I am gonna have words with you.
That is just an outrage.
Plus it's like the President of the United States, you know, the big wizard, and then there's just this little decrepit guy back there.
Spoiler alert!
Yeah, behind the curtain.
I'm just curious right now.
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What is your favorite genre of movie, Jen?
You know, it's hard to say.
I'm all over the place.
My favorite movies are Tombstone.
I love the movie Tombstone.
Oh, wow.
Interesting.
I know this is weird.
I love Silence of the Lambs.
Oh, it's a great movie.
I love Steel Magnolias.
Hang on, hang on.
You can't say Tombstone and then Silence of the Lambs and then Steel Magnolias.
That is the most eclectic.
I'm pretty schizophrenic when it comes to my film collection for sure.
So I will say I love a movie that makes me laugh.
I love comedy movies.
I love sweet movies.
Right, exactly.
But I also love action.
I can tell you I don't love horror.
I love psychological thrillers, which is why I like Silence of the Lambs, but I don't like slasher flicks.
But I love action movies.
I think the Mission Impossible movies lately have been great.
I don't know.
It depends.
I'm kind of all over the place when it comes to genre.
It's weird.
Horror movies do nothing for me.
No.
Boring.
I start rooting for the slasher because the people are always just dumb in horror movies.
You know, they go outside by themselves.
They go into the basement.
Don't do that.
You know what's going to happen.
We've all seen the movie.
So what are we going to do?
We're going to have karaoke night.
I have already taken out, because I needed them for my PT session, I've taken out my short shorts.
I'm taking my short shorts on the cruise.
Do we have an 80s trivia night planned?
So I think we need to.
I did a little recon this morning because I thought, you know, I really haven't explored the ship too much.
And so I started looking and they have, I'm happy to report, the billboard lounge where you can sing to hits from past and present, which sounds to me like the 1980s.
And it seems like they've got a microphone just ready for you.
And you know Gallagher is going to be singing show tunes.
Now Jeff has to come, right?
Yeah.
I mean, he loves karaoke.
You've heard this, right?
This is across the radio industry.
It is well known.
Jeff loves science fiction and karaoke.
It is well known.
And old movies, I hear.
You don't sing?
Is that against your religion, Jeff?
No, I'm just never a big fan of singing, and I don't dance either.
That's what you think.
Do you do anything?
Do you ever have any fun at all, Jeff?
I do a lot today.
I did dance at my wedding for the first dance, but that was about it.
That was all.
What was it?
Was it the twist?
Was it something really modern?
It was a song written after I was born.
Now I'm curious.
We'll get him out of it.
We'll get the thumbscrews on.
We have...
The Cigar Night Experience, sponsored by Corona Cigars, on the ship.
I'm so... Come on!
Oh yeah.
I'm really excited.
That's gonna be fun.
And they have an upper deck, right?
Like a cigar area?
I have already chosen for this.
You have to register separately and you get two of my hand-selected cigars as part of the evening.
How cool is that?
That's awesome.
That is so fun.
See, that's why I keep telling the listeners on AM 870 and AM 590 that Alaska is truly a bucket list trip because it is so spectacular.
But this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to go and smoke a cigar with Dr. G, watch me force him to sing karaoke, watch Mike Gallagher probably sing us some show tunes, and we'll see what Chris Stegall we can get to do.
And Katie, we're going to work on her too.
We might have to get her on mic.
I mean, how will you ever replicate this ever again?
It won't ever happen like this again.
I don't know if anybody's listening.
Hopefully Katie is not listening.
She's far too busy now that she's the chair of the GOP in Fairfax County.
When I met my wife at the conference where I met my wife.
She was sober, okay?
Hadn't drunk, she wasn't drinking.
On the second night of the conference, in the hotel lobby, she stood on a table and sang the Chiquita Banana song.
Come on.
And she hasn't done it since.
It will be 30 years this October that we met.
We need to plot together.
You need to get my wife to do a reprise of the Chiquita Banana song.
Will you help me?
I appreciate that.
Yes, I appreciate the intel.
I'm gonna go to work on it right away.
We are plotting.
Nobody's listening.
All three and a half million of you are sworn to secrecy.
Do not tell my wife.
We will be ambushing her with the theme tune to the Chiquita Banana song and she will dance on the table on the Eurodame Cruiser.
I love this.
Oh my gosh.
We've got plans.
Big plans.
And we've got a job.
Chris told me.
Chris is kind of pastor, so he'll be leading the morning prayers on the ship.
Perfect!
Yeah, yeah.
How about that?
Okay, see, we have a plan.
We do, we do.
I don't know what I'm doing.
I'm director of fun.
That's what I am.
What if I'm not good at karaoke?
What if somebody films it and posts it?
Everybody's good at karaoke and all you need is just one good song.
You just gotta start practicing.
But I like Queen.
Can I do a good Freddie?
Do not do Queen.
Can I do a good Freddie Mercury?
Can you let us hear a little right now?
Don't tempt me, my dear.
That was so close.
I was like, I'm going to belt it out.
I was like, I'm just ready to roll.
All right, instead of that, let's play that clip again, because I just love this so much, and I want your reaction.
These are the kids of Harlem, black, white, just saying it like it is.
Cut one.
I love you, Trump!
I love you, Trump!
We love Trump!
We love Trump!
I love you, Trump!
We love Trump!
I'm so confused.
Why are they saying we love Trump?
I mean, that's a black kid saying we love Trump.
I thought he was a racist, Jen.
I'm confused.
I know, it's amazing.
They call him a racist, but yet his numbers with every ethnic group on the planet seem to be just flying upwards because people know what's happening to Donald Trump is not right right now.
And I think this guy is so smart.
He has so many great ideas.
He has the opportunity now, since he's tied to New York, to make Alvin Bragg point his failures out.
It is ridiculous.
I was reading that Alvin Bragg has, I think, 10 or 12 DAs in the courtroom with him at
any given time during this trial.
If that's true, do you think the people of New York—I don't care if they're Democrat,
Republican, Trump supporter or not—would appreciate that the elected DA has tied up
the hands of a dozen DAs that should be prosecuting real crime in New York?
Because I think it's an issue.
And so, President Trump going to places like that bodega where the shop owner was ridiculously
attempted to be charged, at least by Alvin Bragg, thrown into rivers for defending himself,
And here we go.
I mean, at least President Trump can shine a light on that.
And there are plenty of opportunities in New York for President Trump to go, while he's tied to court, where he can put that spotlight on Alvin Bragg and let the people of New York speak.
And it is incredible.
We played this all morning long, too, to hear the crowd in Harlem shouting, four more years in Harlem!
Of all places.
I think his crowd there was bigger than Biden's in his hometown of Scranton yesterday.
A word that he cannot, in fact, pronounce.
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We'll be back with Jen and I might sing.
Who knows?
We'll see.
Ribbons in her hair.
We could do a duet.
I can't believe Katie danced to Chiquita Banana.
I know.
She has refused for 29 years to reprise that.
Oh, not when she's getting get tag-teamed right now.
We're gonna go and we're gonna nice and easy, but we'll convince her.
The challenge has been set, my dear.
The challenge has been set.
I will do it.
I'll work it.
I'll work it.
I'll make her a bet on the podcast.
Oh, good.
One that I know I can win.
Good.
Just need a title for Jesse, by the way.
Uh, yeah, hang on a second.
Chat's going off on movies now, by the way.
Oh, good.
Play cut seven.
Seven.
Oh, actually six and seven.
I would be shocked if he actually goes to jail.
I would find it shocking given that he's, you know, this is a first offense and all of these other things.
I've kind of lost hope that it's going to make any difference with Republican voters.
I've even lost hope that it makes any difference with Evangelical voters.
If you heard this man I was speaking to someone in Trump World last night who did acknowledge that.
The physical toll this is taking on Trump already.
He's a couple times now we've seen him close his eyes, potentially asleep.
Though he's been in courtrooms a lot in recent months, most of those appearances relatively brief.
An hour here, a couple hours there, lots of breaks.
He never had to be there for eight, nine hours at a time.
And he's going to have to do that each and every day.
Yes, he gets today off, but he'll be back tomorrow.
He'll be back Friday.
He'll be back Monday.
And there is some concern Trump will- Give me three.
Say again?
Three.
Give me three.
Cut three.
Donald Trump will be Donald Trump with that same personality, but with no Mark Milley's.
No normal people around him.
He'll be surrounded by people who want to use him as the frontman for a Christofascist takeover.
Yes, it's like, you know, they sell these, you know, they sell those electric scooters and they have the software in it where you can only go a certain speed and then you can go on Reddit and take it off and people like end up mangling, you know, end up in the ER, like that is, that's the worst case scenario, right?
That those governors are removed, that the Mark Millies aren't there, that it's all this sort of, it's Tom Cotton as, you know, the Secretary of Defense and it's Kash Patel running the... How, these people, She's talking about Christofascism, and he's talking about electric scooters.
I know.
I mean, how dumb are they?
They're so dumb.
And, you know, I try to listen to them every morning on my way in.
It's gotten—I mean, it was always hard to listen to.
It's gotten so bad.
It's worse.
It's worse.
Oh, my God.
I think I told you when you were on with us yesterday, they were going off on Tom Cotton being violent and a violent extremist now because of Trump, because he suggested that the protesters on the San Francisco Bridge, someone would want to throw them overboard.
Right, right.
Right.
And so he says that, and that's now because Trump has made him a violent extremist.
You've got the B-roll, Geep.
Golden Gate.
I need that.
Yeah, Morning Joe's back to my favorite show.
Oh, crap!
It is real bad.
I wanted that today, Jeff.
I need Morning Joe's complete meltdown.
The one from yesterday?
The longer?
Yeah, I need like in three different cuts for tomorrow.
All right?
All right, that's fine.
All right.
There was the one that we played part of yesterday.
Yeah, I want all of it.
I want the whole meltdown.
What are the guests tomorrow?
What order?
For the show, it's gonna be Lindsey...
Grossman, then Trust Hour 3.
Trust.
Okay, good.
I like it in the third hour.
I'd like that in the third hour.
All right, so I'll need you to prove it.
And get me the... Can you get me the...
The most awesome voice in talk radio.
The most awesome voice in talk radio.
No, not me.
Dr. G. Wow.
Babushka.
Kate Bush in her stainless steel leotard.
If you don't know what I'm talking about, you better look it up.
And if you're like 14 years old as I was at the time, it changed your life forever.
Kate Bush.
Do you know who Kate Bush is, Jan Horn?
That's the stretch.
I was going to ask you about that song because, you know, I'm Czech, you're Hungarian and a babushka, you know, you have the thing on your head.
And so I was like, what is this?
But Kate Bush, I think I learned about during Stranger Things.
All right, she's just trying to rub in that she's younger than I am, which is fine.
She's a lady.
I am a little bit older than her.
It's not just the smidge.
It's not just the salt and pepper in my beard.
But Kate Bush, I think we'll have to find that video and show it on air.
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We played a couple in the break, but I have to discuss this, because when I found this out yesterday, it kind of blew my mind.
The Golden Gate Bridge, which I'm sure you've discussed for hours, there's like three protesters on it and they shut it down for four hours.
What the hell was the SFPD doing, Jen?
I have no idea.
Hang on, hang on.
One, two, three, four, five.
Five people holding a banner and they shut down the whole bridge for hours.
And there weren't that many more in Chicago, at O'Hare, and they shut down people's traffic.
This last Monday wasn't bad enough, it was tax day, but they also, these protesters, these pro Pro Hamas protesters made it their day to go out.
So they shut down downtown LA, which we had locally.
They had a handful of protesters there.
It's unbelievable on the Golden Gate Bridge.
Instead of just moving the people out of the way, because look, you can peacefully protest, but you can't disrupt traffic.
I would have had those people arrested in about four seconds.
Throw them in the paddy wagon, get them off the bridge.
I mean, do you know what a bottleneck you cause?
What if people have kids in the car?
I mean, it's a mess.
So has there been any heat on the mayor, on the police department?
Four hours?
It's unbelievable.
And the same thing happened in O'Hare.
People saw it where people were dragging their luggage to try to make their flight.
Downtown LA, they got some bottlenecking with the traffic.
It was okay.
The thing that is so annoying is that if you are a protester, you must be really stupid, because if you want to bring people to your side, and you want people to support Hamas and not support Israel, don't prevent them from getting on their flight.
Don't shut down their traffic.
I mean, you could protest, but protest someplace where people will not absolutely hate you, where we have especially commuter culture in California.
Nobody's going to support four people with a dumb sign in the middle of the Golden Gate Bridge.
That message is lost.
On everybody, except for the three people out there.
Right.
We're going to do a little competition now.
The stakes are the following.
Who is the dumbest amongst the following?
Mara Gray, Joy Reid, or Chris Hayes.
And I bring the evidence to the court.
Exhibit one, Mara Gay.
Cut eight.
Play cut.
I do agree with George.
I think that his PR capabilities are going to be somewhat limited in New York City.
Or maybe it was John that mentioned that a moment ago.
That's absolutely true.
It's an ongoing concern because essentially he's like a caged animal.
And that's a dangerous situation.
He's feeling very threatened.
He's out of control.
And so we do expect him to lash out.
Anybody who has covered him over the past decade can expect that.
This is the same person who jokes about being in court every day.
That's the person who is a caged animal.
The next bid, we have the famous homophobe Joy Reid.
And what do you call him, Eric?
Chris Hayes is what?
Is the younger version of Rachel Maddow?
What is the thing?
Or you could say a transgender Rachel Maddow.
A transgender Rachel Maddow, talking about the dangers of a second Trump term.
Donald Trump will be Donald Trump with that same personality, but with no Mark Milley's.
No normal people around him.
He'll be surrounded by people who want to use him as the frontman for a cristo-fascist takeover.
Yes, it's like, you know, they sell these, you know, they sell those electric scooters and they have the software in it where you can only go a certain speed and then you can go on Reddit and take it off and people like end up mangling, you know, end up in the ER.
Like, that is, that's the worst case scenario, right?
That those governors are removed, that the Mark Millies aren't there, that it's all this sort of, it's Tom Cotton as, you know, the Secretary of Defense and it's Kash Patel running the National Security Council out of the White House and apparatchiks, as you mentioned.
I don't know which is dumb.
You've got to help me out.
The Christofascism that is the Trump administration, which is weird.
I thought they said he's not religious.
Or the fact that you're talking about a Nazi takeover and so your analogy is about electric scooters.
Are these people just morons?
That was a real stretch, and you know he had that analogy built up, and he was going to use that one, because he thought it was great, no matter what the context.
And she was ding-donging along with it, going, oh yeah, it's a scooter.
I don't think Hash Patel and Tom Patton sound that bad right now, by the way.
I think that actually sounds pretty dang good, judging by what we have.
So, you know, I would actually just say thank you, because I think we can only dream.
All right, so what is the final decision?
Chris Hayes, Joy Reid, or Margay?
I think it's got to go with Joy Reid.
And I'll tell you, MSNBC, getting worse and worse.
They said that Tom Cotton is now a violent extremist.
The other day, like I try to listen in the morning and it literally is getting so out of control.
They said that Tom Cotton, because he said you'd like to throw one of those protesters over the side of the Golden Gate Bridge, is now threatening them.
And Trump made him a violent extremist.
Mm-hmm.
This is how wild they are.
But I have to ask you, how does it affect your day that you listen to these people on the way to work, Jen?
I do it so I know what they're talking about before I get in and it always makes me go, oh my, I usually can only take about three minutes and then I have to shut it off.
We're down to about two minutes and 30 seconds now.
It is just, it is that crazy.
Joe Scarborough, I don't know what happened to him.
There is not even a semblance of fairness that runs through the halls of NBC News.
We're going to analyze his epic meltdown tomorrow.
We're going to have an amazing, amazing group of guests we're going to have.
Miriam Grossman the brave doctor who's talking out against transgender mutilation.
We're gonna have James Lindsay literally wrote the book on critical theory and you might want to tune in for this everyone out there for a whole hour in studio the former Prime Minister of the UK Liz Truss and I think we'll have fun with her analyzing the lunacy of the left as well.
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And, well, it's just so good.
I'm going to keep talking for the next 27 seconds, so I can fill air time, so I can end this segment with my favorite clip of the current political situation.
It happened yesterday outside a bodega in Harlem with young children.
Well, let's listen.
Cut one!
I love you Trump!
I love you Trump!
We love Trump!
No.
Okay.
To the what?
To the RNC, to Milwaukee, the convention.
No, Phil mentioned it, but I thought it was no value added.
I know.
I was trying to figure out what to do because they're wondering if I would like to go.
Well, Gallagher's going to be there, so I'm going to connect to him while he's there.
Good.
Perfect.
Yeah.
All right, cool.
Well, you guys have a great rest of the week.
Get busy.
Get researching Chiquita Bananas.
I'm on it.
Oh, I can't wait.
I'm going to come up with the bet I know I can win.
How are we going to do that?
Bye, guys.
Thanks, Jen.
Bye, Jen.
Thank you.
See you later.
I could see how tempted you were to sing a little bit of Queen.
I was just about to start singing.
Uh, this is the titles for Jen and Jesse.
Uh, Jen...
Mm-hmm.
Oh, Alex, can you make a note of this?
Yes, sir.
So, for the pre-record with John, can you do a, so I timed it the following, it should all work, if you put a Patriot mobile at the top of B, Then a MyPillow at the top of D. These are all like minute longs.
And then a minute long PhD at the top of, sorry, a Patriot Mobile top of D, MyPillow top of C, and a PhD at the top of D. Top of D. All right.
Yeah.
Great.
For Jan.
yes go for the movies we talk about going to eat
Oh Or karaoke.
Oh yeah.
Wanna hear Dr. G sing Queen?
Yes!
Good.
Now, who wants to hear?
Who wants to hear Dr. G sing Queen?
Alright, and then Jesse.
And then Jesse... Gag order.
90 seconds.
You're supposed to gag the prosecutors, not the defendants.
Okay, any last cuts you want to use here?
Well, we've got a lot of questions.
We did most of them.
I might do cut four.
Might do cut four.
My pillow at the top here.
Pillow at the top, yep.
A few seconds.
Yeah.
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Okay, enough clues, enough clues.
Jeff, I've got to ask a radio professional his opinion.
I love when I just talk about all kinds of random stuff with Jen and it's not about politics.
Is it bad radio?
How do we find out if the listeners like it?
Ask them.
How?
I don't know.
There's a lot of them out there.
The text line would have worked.
I think it's good.
It's good to switch it up every now and then.
Switch it up, alright.
Not too heavy.
The thing I don't want to do on this show is lose my voice and start coughing like I did about half an hour ago.
That was scary.
Not good for radio.
Sorry, guys.
I hate it when that happens to somebody who's hosting a live show.
But hey, you can't predict everything.
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Okay, this is an unusual clip.
This is from the Supreme Court.
I presume it was yesterday.
This is Neil Gorsuch, the Associate Justice, talking to a legal professional called Elizabeth Prelogar about Well, let's have a listen.
Maybe you'll work out why he asked that question.
Cut 4!
What does that mean for the breadth of this statute?
Would a sit-in that disrupts a trial or access to a federal courthouse qualify?
Would a heckler in today's audience qualify or at the State of the Union address?
Would pulling a fire alarm before a vote qualify for 20 years in federal prison?
There are multiple elements of the statute that I think might not be satisfied by those hypotheticals and it relates to the point I was going to make to the Chief Justice about the breadth of this statute.
Is that a human being?
Jeff, was that an android, the U.S.
Solicitor General?
I cannot believe that's the Solicitor General.
Who was that?
I thought the same thing.
Did he speed that up or was that natural speed?
That's the woman that's defending these ridiculous charges.
So let's put it into context because that's a really important audio cut.
So we have an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court asking if the obstruction of justice charge that was used to put people in prison for years and years, in one case 22 years after January the 6th, Whether that could be used for somebody who disrupted an official proceeding by pulling a fire alarm.
Eric, why do you think Justice Gorsuch asked about interrupting an official proceeding by pulling a fire alarm?
It couldn't possibly be because a prominent progressive Democrat member of the House
pulled the fire alarm right before a vote because he didn't like what was being voted
on and he basically got a slap on the wrist.
It couldn't possibly be that.
No, not at all.
And what do you think, Eric, if he's priming the pump, if Gorsuch is priming the pump like
that, and if there's a decision this week or next week that those hundreds of prosecutions
are fallacious, they misused and abused the law, and all of those convictions have to
to be vacated.
How big is that do you think politically for November the 5th if hundreds of January 6th cases are just thrown out?
That's so big politically it could make January 6th a good thing for Trump.
Up to this point, it has been used to just bash him over the head, like, this is the worst thing since the Civil War, since 9-11.
Just like that.
The Supreme Court rules these almost be overturned.
How are you going to argue the Supreme Court at that point?
Jeff, what about the flip side?
What about the left will say, oh, look!
The threat is bigger than ever!
The January 6 crazies have been released!
Could it be bad?
Yeah, they'll definitely play it up.
They'd look for anything to play it up.
They need something to talk about other than Biden's record, so of course they'll flip out on that.
I'm fascinated.
Do we know when that decision's going to come?
Is it this week?
I think they said it was going to be in June with the rest of them.
Oh, man.
Fascinating.
The fact that we have the audio of a Supreme Court Associate Justice referencing a Democrat who, well, if fair's fair, he should be in prison too if that thing gets voted down like Roe v. Wade.
Ooh, the ramifications.
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All right, so this is the era of the citizen politician.
America has had it with the quote-unquote elite class of permanent politicians like Mitch McConnell, like Joe Biden, who are there for decades on end, become multi-multi-millionaires, and then don't represent anybody except themselves, or maybe, you know, China, or Russia, Ukraine, Iran.
We want people who love America, like President Trump, and then do a little bit of politics, and then go home back to where they were before, because that's what our founding fathers did.
And I just met one.
I had lunch with her yesterday.
I met her at an amazing event, a gala for Moms for America, and she wanted to come in studio and see what we do here.
And we're delighted to have her with us.
Meg Weinberger, welcome to America First!
Thank you so much.
Thanks for having me.
Well, thank you for joining us.
You two are a well-known figure around patriot circles.
I think we've got some photographs of you hanging out with some people we know, like President Trump, like his daughter-in-law, Lara.
And I guess hanging out with citizen politicians wasn't enough for you, and now you want to do it, too?
That's where I'm at.
Yes, absolutely.
So what have you decided to do?
You're in Florida.
What's the big plan, Meg?
Running for statehouse.
Western Palm Beach County.
You know, honestly, I'm a patriot.
Mom, wife.
I love my country.
When President Trump was in office, he made me really open my eyes and realize, I guess we can't just trust everything that's going on and everybody that's leading our country and our state to make good choices and do the right thing.
So what is the value?
After what you've seen happen to President Trump, to his family, you see him in court every single day.
Why would you do that to yourself at a state level?
Well, first of all, I think, especially, I guess, because of that.
It's scary.
What's going to happen to my kids and their children's generation if this is what's happening right in front of our eyes?
You know, it makes me sick that President Trump and his family is going through this.
And I can't even believe we're watching it.
And it shocks me.
Who would have ever thought we'd be having these conversations?
Tell us a little bit about yourself.
You are a great friend of the animal world.
You have an organization, rescueliferescue-life.org.
Tell us about your passions and what you've been doing so far in your life.
You know, I grew up fortunate to be exposed to rescuing animals, being involved with foster kids, have adopted sisters, special needs.
One of my sisters was also special needs.
She had Down syndrome.
So I kind of grown up doing the same.
It found me, even if I wouldn't have thought.
I rescue a lot of animals.
I like to share that with special needs kids and foster children and school children and just teach them the value of that humane and animal connection.
And isn't there something magical about these children who may not have been loved adequately, don't have a decent home, and then the connection to the unconditional love that animals provide?
Yeah, certainly.
We have a lot to learn from animals, I feel like.
If we could just sit back and be quiet and learn from them.
Really, I feel like they teach me a lot more than I ever teach them.
Now, I feel really ignorant because we were having lunch yesterday and you talked about going on ride-alongs and seeing what happens to... What is this story about people who steal horses in Florida?
I hadn't heard this before and I found it shocking.
Tell us what people are doing to the horses that they steal.
It's not just Florida.
It's, you know, sadly all around the United States.
Right.
But a horse that we had adopted out years ago went missing, so we went looking for him.
And somebody had cut the fence and stole both of their horses.
And sadly, I mean, we were looking for them all night.
And honestly, we got shot at, laying in the street at 11 o'clock at night.
It was very scary.
But they're not stealing them to use on a farm or race with them.
Why are they stealing them, Meg?
We found their carcasses the next day, butchered on the side of a canal bank.
They steal them to sell them.
I mean, they have slaughterhouses in neighborhoods, obviously illegal slaughterhouses, where they steal people's animals and slaughter them.
But there's an aspect to this that is even more perverse than just stealing them for food.
These aren't just people who are hungry, but these are people who have strange beliefs about the horses they steal.
We were told many, you know, different cultures believe it's whether it's the testosterone from the horse or there's a number of reasons that they, you know, they would tell us.
And honestly, I had a colonel from FWC tell me that these people that are stealing horses, they're not just stealing horses.
These are people that are also involved in human trafficking, dog fighting, you know, a lot of drugs, you know, a lot of activity that we don't really want in our neighborhoods for sure.
Yeah, if they're stealing one kind of life form, they're probably trafficking another one.
Last question for you.
You've stepped on this journey, this new part of your life.
How has it been so far to get into the political arena, Meg?
Are you ready for the nasty people?
I honestly I never imagined being in politics but I have really learned a lot
and I've met some amazing people. Are you ready for the nasty people for all
the attacks? No, I feel like I care about the people that are in my circle.
I care about animals probably more than, you know, if somebody doesn't have something, they don't know me if they have something probably not very nice to say.
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One of the few good guys on Capitol Hill.
is Congressman Dan Bishop, who made Alejandro Mayorkas sweat, and Mayorkas' response was really interesting.
Let's have a listen.
Cut ten.
Let me ask you this.
What actions is the Department of Homeland Security taking to ensure that, especially given the millions of illegal entries, including two million gotaways, that non-citizens are being prevented from registering and voting unlawfully?
Congressman, individuals who are not citizens of the United States cannot vote in federal elections.
Ah, but that's not what I asked.
I asked what actions DHS is taking to ensure that that doesn't occur.
Well, two things.
Number one, I believe that it is state and local election officials that monitor the eligibility of individuals.
We do not oversee the election enrollment process.
What we do is enforce our borders and, in fact... So, said shorter, nothing.
For those of you who are listening and not watching, behind the congressman was a massive enlargement of a leaflet in Spanish telling illegals to vote for Joe Biden.
Yeah, a leaflet being handed out to illegals saying, vote for Biden.
And the Secretary of DHS says, oh, we're not involved, which is really weird.
Jeff, do you remember after the election, there was somebody from the Department of Homeland Security from the CISA, Cybersecurity Infrastructure Security Agency.
Do you remember that person who went on record in Congress saying, That was the securest election we've ever had.
Do you remember that?
The most in history.
The most secure in history.
The most?
Yes.
And he was from DHS.
I'm confused.
I thought DHS doesn't do elections.
No, they only, when Democrats win, they'll say it's the most secure in history.
They'll do that.
Right before the election, they don't have anything to do with it, though.
That's how it works.
And what happens if, God willing, we do our part?
What happens if my old boss wins on November 5th?
What is DHS gonna say then?
Are they gonna say, We don't do elections!
Or are they gonna say, That was the most insecure election in history!
Oh, they'll find some shenanigans that went on, I guarantee.
Yeah, shenanigans.
And then, then things are gonna get interesting.
You think BLM was bad in the Summer of Love.
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And that promise was kept.
That was the year I moved to the United States and eventually, legally, became its citizen.
When I arrived, I worked for the government.
I worked for the Defense Department.
I taught in a classroom full of officers of every hue, every pallor.
There was no racial tension.
There was no racism.
And then the Beer Summit.
And then BLM.
Thanks to that man, in my opinion.
Let's break it all down and talk about the future of the political culture in this, the greatest nation on God's green earth, with a GOP strategist who's got a bit of a reputation for telling the truth.
Stop laughing, Show Michael.
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Welcome, sir.
Hey, Doc.
It's always good to be with you.
So you come on everybody else's show wearing a suit and tie.
And then you're wearing jeans.
Jeans?
I've got to tell you.
I've got my Obama summer suit on.
I thought we were such good friends.
I could be comfortable with you.
So I figured, you know what, this is my friend.
I know, Doc, we talk about guns.
I'm glad it's a radio show mostly.
I'm just glad that he's here in his pajamas and I'm actually here in a custom-made suit.
That's a nice suit, by the way.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Okay, so let's just jump straight in.
Yeah.
Maybe it's because I was an immigrant, but I came here 16 years ago, just before that man was elected, and I didn't see racial tension.
There's no way that BLM could have happened in 2008, 2009.
Talk to us about where we are today and the role of race in politics.
Have we gone back in time?
Have we undermined racial relations of late?
You know, that's a question I think that everybody's trying to figure out.
It's certainly one that, as a strategist, I think a lot about.
And I think about it in a different sense.
I think about it in terms of the United States standing in the world when the country's fractured and divided.
You look at an adversary, you're a political scientist, you know this well, you look at an adversary such as Russia.
You look at an adversary such as China in the BRICS system.
If the audience isn't familiar with BRICS, B-R-I-C-S, that's Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa.
And it's this system that is an economic system to challenge the West's economic superiority.
When I look at apps like ByteDance's TikTok, which I'm completely against, and how the Chinese are using that app To infiltrate young American minds to sow dissent and division.
And so to that question about racial tensions, Dr. Gorka, the way I think about it is I think about it through the guise of how an adversary can utilize our divisions.
Uh, to cause further fractures within the American ecosystem, if you will.
And that's advantageous to them.
No more, Doc, do you need to launch missiles.
No more do you need to put men on the ground.
Why when you have technology and social media and apps that will allow you to sow racial divisions?
Political, ideological divisions, gender divisions, religious divisions.
Every division you can think of, it's being sold.
And when you look at it, where is this stuff coming from?
It's coming from a lot of our adversaries.
And so while we're in fighting, destroying ourselves from within, it's a brilliant strategy that these people are doing.
But you're not going to give a break to those domestically who are Americans who are seeding hatred, because this isn't just China or Russia.
There are Americans doing this.
But my point, though, Doc, is that you have Americans who are susceptible to this.
And so the question becomes, for those of us who are aware of this in leadership positions, strategists, advisors, and even everyday Americans who may be saying, well, what can I do, Shermichael, to be a positive against a significant amount of, I guess, hatred and extremism?
I would say, you know, if you're someone who may have a different religious view, a different political view, a different ethnic view, build some coalitions with people who look a little different, who think different, who believe different.
Doc, we look different and we talk about guns, we talk about a whole host of other cultural things.
I have friends in my motorcycle group, Doc, some military guys, their religious beliefs are... He's just throwing that in there, his motorbikes, his guns, he's that kind of guy, that kind of guy.
I'm a Christian.
They're Muslim, but they love America.
They're in the military.
They think America's the greatest place on Earth.
And I tried to personally build these groups within my own immediate circles, because from then, then you spring out and you can fight against people who are trying to divide because of race and all these other issues.
And so, to that fundamental question, though, that you asked, What can we do about this?
Well, first, before we get to that, what is... give us the diagnosis.
Is it really bad?
Oh, I think it's incredibly bad. I think...
But is it artificial? Because I look at 16 years ago and I think...
It wasn't, it was, no.
The idea that systemic racism, that nobody talked about systemic racism.
It was most in academic, most in academic space.
Doc, this is what I think.
I think most people who probably listen to your program, most of the people that I said hello to walking into this building didn't look like me.
They work with people who look like me and a whole host of other people.
People who listen to your show, go to the grocery store every single day, pump gas every single day.
They say, hello, how you doing?
How's your day?
Nice to meet you.
Thanks for holding the door for me.
To a whole host of people who don't look like them.
I think that there is this over-sensationalism with people in D.C.
and with a certain sector of people in the media that attempt to make problems oversized from what they actually are.
Well, for their own benefit.
Right, that's where I was getting to.
I don't think, Doc, most people If you were to talk to them, they would say, oh, I interact with everybody.
My kids go to school with a whole host of people.
I work with a whole host of people.
My neighbors are a whole host of people.
And we get along perfectly fine, Doc.
And I think that's why you see a lot of conservatives in particular who get incredibly frustrated about some of these things because they say, well, wait a minute.
I interact with a lot of different people.
And I never have an issue in my daily life.
But when I turn on the news or I go on social media, It's like everybody hates each other, and I don't think most people believe that to be the case, Doc.
I really don't.
Now, maybe I'm just some hopeful fool, but I talk to my parents.
They live in Texas.
I talk to my grandparents who live in New Orleans, and we have these conversations, and they sort of chuckle sometimes because my mom, she'll say, you know what?
We never talk about this stuff.
She said if we do talk about it, it'll be like, do these people actually talk to everyday people?
Yeah.
No, they don't.
Let's talk about the GOP for a second.
So my wife just won the... I saw that.
Congratulations, by the way.
She won the election for the chair of the GOP in the biggest county in Virginia, in Fairfax.
And she did a lot of outreach, her and her team.
And I want to use this with regards to the black American population.
She went to an event organized by Hindus in Virginia.
And one of the gentlemen there said the following, and it was fascinating.
He said, we, as people who believe in family values, entrepreneurship, traditional values, we run from the Democrats as Hindus.
We have to run from them.
But when it comes to the GOP, we have to chase them because they don't reach out to us.
You know what's funny?
He's not good.
I had an Uber driver.
I'm not kidding.
I'm not making this up.
About two or three days ago, I was leaving my house, going into D.C.
I don't know what his religious background was, but he was a brown-skinned guy like myself, and he heard my phone conversation about politics.
When I got off the phone, he said, oh, you're a Republican.
I said, yeah, I'm a conservative.
He said, you know, you guys never come in our neighborhoods and talk to us.
I said, what do you mean?
And he said, well, you know, I think he's from Africa, the continent.
I don't know what country.
He said, but we're very conservative.
He said, we're not pro-abortion.
We believe in family.
We work hard.
He said, but it's only the Democrats that actually reach out to us.
And he said, and we would probably be more aligned with Republicans.
And he said, so when you talk to Republicans, he said, please tell them, come talk to us.
That is so funny, Doc!
Isn't it?
But it's true, isn't it, that for some reason the establishment has written off minorities because, what, they're afraid of them?
Or they think they can't convince them?
You must know, what is it that makes the... I mean, Lara's now in charge, and God bless her, I think we're going to see a lot of change, but why did the GOP for decades say, we're just not going to bother?
Well, you know, I think after the Goldwater states' rights, because of the civil rights issue, and I hope a lot of people understand this, so, people say, well, a lot of African Americans voted Republican, what happened?
Barry Goldwater, senator from Arizona, was the GOP nominee back in, I think, the late 60s, early 70s, and his argument in terms of civil rights was it should be a state issue.
Well, guys, I gotta be honest, if you're living in the South, you're like, and a black person, Doc, you're like, hell no, I don't want it to be a states' right issue, like, we need some intervention here.
And so that was the final sort of drover where a lot of African Americans said, you know, this isn't gonna work, we gotta move on, and so they switched, the community switched parties.
Ever since then, the party's just wiped it off.
They just ignored reaching out to African Americans.
I mean, you've had some Republicans that have said, we're going to try, maybe we'll make some efforts.
But up until Trump in 2020, where you saw a slight increase, and particularly with African American men, If you believe some of the polling today that there may even be another bump with African American men in particular, I think that's a very interesting phenomenon, one that I have been studying a lot as a strategist.
I think the party needs to make an economic case to black people, especially men.
Hold it, hold it.
We're going to talk about what that case is going to be.
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He gets just pallets, pallets of danger money, just piles of danger money to go on CNN with regularity.
Why?
Because he tells truth bombs like this one.
Trump isn't behind.
He's ahead in every national poll.
He's ahead in most battleground states.
And if the election were held today despite 91 indictments, four federal trials, he's still ahead.
That says a lot.
And the fact is that President Biden is emerging support among African Americans, among young voters, among other voters of color.
They're not excited about him.
And then when you throw in the slew of independent candidates, RFK, Cornel West, Jill Stein, it doesn't look great for the president in terms of his path of winning the election.
I have to say, it's a very mighty fine suit and tie you've got on there.
You're not going to let me live this one down, are you?
No, no, never, never.
He goes outside to his car and the CNN producers have slashed his tires.
How dare you say Trump is winning?
Newsweek just told us that he's losing.
Yeah, Newsweek that hates President Trump.
So today, I think today is the graduation of Barron Trump.
Yesterday on, no, the day before yesterday, on Monday, the judge banned President Trump from going to his child's graduation.
I hope he goes anyway, and then he'll have to put him in jail.
We'll see how tough you are then.
So talk to us...
How tall is Barron?
He is...
He's 6'7".
Really?
Oh, he's like...
Man, he's tall.
Every time the president gives me a shout, he says, it's nice to be tall, Seb, isn't
it?
And then he says, but I've got a taller one.
I know, Barron's taller than me.
I'm sorry, I'm a shrimp.
I'm only 6'3".
Okay?
What can I say?
So let's talk about in context.
What is a GOP strategist, not as a conservative, but as a political science expert?
I have to say...
First of all, I'm not a scientist.
Forget the war in the Middle East, the war in Ukraine.
Just look at the numbers.
I say one thing.
The primaries.
The fact that the primaries aren't over.
President Trump has got more votes than he got total in all the primaries in 2016.
The fact that he's breaking records set by Democrats in Democrat states, like Bernie Sanders in New Hampshire.
This, this is, politically, this is...
If the trend line continues, this could be a blowout, couldn't it?
Yeah, I mean, if it continues, it looks really good for the president.
And again, you saw in that clip, the reason I pointed out some of the issues with Biden is because a lot of people are saying, well, Biden is going to win.
But they are not factoring in these third party candidates.
Oh, let's talk about that.
So I was here, first time I visited America was for the Clinton- 2016?
No, no, no.
The first time I visited was 91.
And Ross Perot was running.
So is Cornel West or RFK Jr., are they going to be the Ross Perot that wins it for President Trump?
I think it's possible.
RFK right now is around 18-20% nationally within the margin of error.
He's increasing the number of states he's in.
Dr. West is at around 4%.
I think maybe he's in 4 or 5 states.
His team is working on getting into more states, on the ballots in more states.
Jill Stein is in it.
People don't talk about her, but she's running again!
This must worry the Biden campaign.
I think it has to. So President Biden won in 2020 by four states less than 100,000 votes total in
those battleground states that that seated or that gave rather the electoral college to him.
You look at a state like Georgia, less than 12,000 votes.
Arizona, 10,457 votes.
Nevada, 33,000 votes.
Wisconsin, 22,000 votes.
My argument has been on CNN, and there are quite a few strategists that agree with me, that President Trump's victory to the White House is through those battleground states, those four in particular.
You throw in the third-party candidates on the ballots in those states as well.
The current data today showcases or suggests that they pulled more votes from President Biden than President Trump.
You add the math.
This is a lot of math here for people who are listening to the show.
You clearly see a path for the former president to get to 276, 278 as long as he maintains North Carolina.
I don't really think Michigan and Pennsylvania are must-win states.
I don't agree with that.
Some Republicans try to just I've said that he needs to win one of those two states.
I don't agree.
I think you need to win the states where the margins were very close.
Because to me, that's tenable.
And again, my focus, if I'm a Republican strategist, I gotta be honest, I'm trying to figure out how do I also bolster those third party candidates to pull away from my opponent to give better odds to my guy.
Well, now they've started attacking RFK.
There's a conservative website, I'm thinking.
This guy is so liberal.
Nothing against RFK, but he is liberal as heck.
Totally.
He is not a conservative guy.
But the president, interestingly, a week ago said something nice about him.
He said, well, it wasn't nice.
He said, if I were a Democrat, I'd vote for RFK, which I thought was genius.
Just a genius statement.
And a lot of Democrats are looking at R-OK.
Yeah, because of the last name.
Now, let's factor in what happened this week in New York, what happens every stinking week with Jack Smith, with Florida, on and on and on.
I'm sorry, if you're a strategic mind, you've got to realize this makes President Trump stronger.
It looks like the Dems don't get it.
I mean, it's so funny.
So you have January 6th out of D.C., the Fannie Willis thing, which turned into a... I mean, even Democrats were not happy about that.
It's a dumpster fire.
And then you have Florida.
It appears that none of those cases will occur before November.
So what you have now is this Hush Money case, and your prime witness is... Is a convicted perjurer.
Yeah.
Someone who's known to lie.
Lie so much that when the Southern District of New York considered the case, they said, we can't bring this case with this guy.
Cyrus Vann said no thanks.
He passed on it.
So then you have the current DA, when running for the current position, Mr. Bragg, he said, he made several presumptive statements about the former president's guilt.
That's problematic, number one.
Then number two, you look at Manhattan, you look at New York City.
About 76, 77% of all votes went to President Biden over President Trump.
Then you have Mr. Bragg and Newsweek.
You mentioned Newsweek.
This was interesting.
Newsweek had an article that came out yesterday morning, I think around 6 a.m., that showcased, since indicting former president, Mr. Bragg has raised almost $900,000.
Wow.
So the case that I made on CNN, and I said, so people need to understand, I said, when the president is mentioning that this is a political persecution, I said, now he's not listing these things the way I am.
But what he's alluding to are these facts.
That when people look at the facts and say, wait a minute here, why were you making statements about guilt when you didn't know the evidence at that time?
Why have you raised money on this?
Why would you not say, okay, you know what?
We at least need some resemblance of fairness.
Let's move this out of Manhattan.
Let's go somewhere in New York where it's a little even in terms of the voter outlook and turnout.
But you don't want to do that, because you have your own personal agenda that's likely somewhat infused with politics.
So, for the average voter, they see this and say, you know what, it doesn't matter.
So much so, when I was on CNN yesterday, they brought up, I think, a Quinnipiac poll that showcased 50 plus percent of people said, we don't really care about this.
This isn't going to change our minds about who we're going to vote for.
And then, Doc, really quickly, of all of these cases, you have less than 40% of people that are just like, you know, maybe this will change my mind.
But the vast majority of people, to my point, they have their opinions made.
They care about kitchen table issues, the economy, immigration, crime, and the fact that we may be in another prolonged conflict in the Middle East.
And they look at President Biden, they look at President Trump, and they may say, you know what, I don't like everything the president says sometimes.
But you know what?
It was way better than what we have now.
It's a very binary choice.
It is Biden versus Trump.
And the thing is, he was a president before, so you know what he can actually put on the table.
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of rapid-fire questions. Who knows if the brand new Speaker of the House is going to
I don't think I've met him.
Friends of mine have, who've confirmed for me my expectation that he seems like a really nice guy, which is probably the problem.
Yeah, he is a nice guy.
We have Marjorie Taylor Greene, now backed by Thomas Massey, that want to vacate him from the chair after, I don't know, what, a month or two months?
I mean, we're seven months away from the election.
Give us your verdict on this man, and then this attempt to remove him right now.
I had dinner with Speaker Johnson when he was just a member, Johnson.
He's from Louisiana, that's my home state, my girlfriend and I, and very pleasant man, strong faith, gave us... Nice guy!
Very nice guy.
Gave us a lot of good blessings and wisdom on, you know, as I prepare to propose to my girlfriend of five years, you know, these are just some things you guys should think about, and he's like, you know, we'll be praying for you guys.
Just a really good guy, and I really appreciated that.
But this is terrible what we're doing here, Doc.
I know that there are a lot of my conservative friends who may say, but sure, Michael, I don't want to send funding to Ukraine without there being some attachment.
I respect that.
To the border, meaning?
Correct.
We need to address immigration.
I respect that.
But I would say, ladies and gentlemen, is it worth losing the House?
We have a three-seat majority.
There are more Republicans up for re-election this November than there are Democrats.
Current polling suggests that Democrats would favor to regain the House by a pretty sizable margin.
That means if we are to win the White House in November, which I think is very probable, along with the Senate, we will have a broken government, which means it will be almost impossible to accomplish anything.
And so my warnings to my fellow conservatives out there, I get it, I believe standing on convictions are incredibly important, but Dr. Gorka, standing on convictions when you have no power is a pipe dream.
You can have all the convictions in the world, but without the power to influence anything, it means nothing.
So what do you do, if you're Speaker Johnson, if you're the GOP, what do you do with those who say border, border, border?
Ukraine, just can we wait a little bit?
Or can we at least help Israel and not Ukraine?
How does this man Thread the needle.
You can try that.
The White House, they've already released a statement saying they will not sign anything if it's just Israel only.
Isn't that so weird?
Well, it's politics.
I would move forward with it, and then I would campaign on the fact that Republicans have attempted to address two different global issues.
We're saying, hey, we will support Ukraine, but they have to repay back the funds.
I think most people think that's reasonable.
We're not saying that we don't understand the issue.
We're just simply saying if you want tax-paying dollars, once this conflict is over, pay us back the money.
There's nothing wrong with that.
But they don't want to do that.
I think Spooky Johnson is in a very difficult place.
And Dr. Gorka, I've got to tell you something.
There's a good chance he may be gone in the next couple of weeks.
I mean, I know this is crazy.
We're going over Kevin McCarthy 2.0 all over again.
But it's so weird because MTG, who I used to like, I don't anymore, she kind of, it was so weird the way that she just supported somebody who was establishment because she wanted to get back on the committees that Nancy took her off.
And now she's playing rebel again.
It's like, are you establishment or are you rebel?
Pick a side.
Which one you are.
Maybe it's one of convenience.
Yeah.
Maybe it's one of personal ego.
Again, I am incredibly concerned about this and I have to stress to your audience.
You guys can call members of Congress.
You need to call Marjorie Taylor Greene.
You need to call Thomas Madison and tell them the data suggests that these antics are going to cost us the house.
Is it worth it?
There's a lot at stake here, Dr. Gorka.
There's too much at stake to play games right now.
We cannot afford this.
And I'm being very stern because I am worried about this, Doc.
This isn't a joke, what this country faces over the next couple of months.
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Here's the third rail.
You're not supposed to touch it, show Michael.
That is the question of abortion.
So I was in Mar-a-Lago last week or the week before last.
Last week?
I can't even remember.
Eric, when was I in Mar-a-Lago?
Was that last week?
It was last week.
That was just only last week.
I saw your Instagram.
We are moving at the speed of Trump again, guys.
This is like what it was like in the White House in 2017.
All right, so I was there for this event, and I got to see the president.
It was me, Vivek, Tom Homan, and Kash Patel.
And I'm sure you can imagine when you meet the president, you may have plans for how the discussion will go, but it's irrelevant.
He will talk to you about what he wants to talk about, which is fine because he's, you know, the former president, God willing, if we do our part, the future president.
And he was in the midst of finalizing the verbiage for the abortion video.
And so we talked about it.
And I gave him a line or two, which made it in there, about, hey, I gave you the Associate Supreme Court Justices.
We won.
And now it's back at the states.
Let the people decide, which I think is the answer for a Republican.
I agree.
Then he records the video.
It drops the next Monday.
And like, all hell breaks loose on the right.
Like, how dare he not do a Lindsey Graham and ban abortion at the federal level?
I mean, the idea you're criticizing the man who gave you the destruction of Roe v. Wade blows my mind as a cradle Catholic that you say that.
What is my, as I said my wife is now the chair for the GOP in Fairfax County.
She is struggling with this issue.
People are coming to her, what do I say about abortion?
I'm running for this, I'm running for that.
What is the most effective way, because I hate it when Republicans say, don't talk about it.
Run away, run away.
So you can't run away, when you're being banged over the head by the Democrats, you can't run away from it.
You're a GOP strategist.
How should we handle the issue of pro-life and abortion?
So I just did a focus group in Georgia with some Georgia Republicans from South Georgia and rural Savannah, which is in the southern part of the state.
Our age ranges.
The youngest was 19, so this would be his first presidential election.
The eldest, rather, was close to 60.
And we talked about this issue.
I want to first touch on the Mike Pence thing.
I quoted Mike Pence and he said that it was a slap in the face of pro-life Americans.
This is President Trump's former vice president, former running mate.
And one of my participants... So you quoted that Pence criticism to the group.
And I said to all my participants, I said, what do you guys think about this?
One person said, we do not trust Mike Pence.
Mike Pence is irrelevant.
Another person said, I respect Mike Pence.
I share his beliefs on the abortion.
It shouldn't be an issue that we move on.
However, we have to win in November.
Mike Pence's position is not going to help us win.
And this was the most powerful one to me.
This guy says, Sir Michael, we're tired of losing.
We're tired of losing.
And the Democrats keep beating us over the head with this time and time again.
I agree with President Trump.
Let the voters in states decide.
This is a state's issue.
Let voters decide in every state.
If people vote for it, I won't like it, but I will accept it.
Republicans need to understand that we have to talk about the economy.
We have to get to work on immigration.
Let's work on crime.
Let's work on things that matter.
Gas and groceries.
Sure, Michael, people need gas and groceries every single week.
You might need an abortion once in your lifetime.
People in our hometown can't afford gas and groceries.
My church had to set up a kitchen table every Sunday now to help struggling families because they can't afford groceries.
I hope you hired him.
Southern Georgia.
I hope you hired that guy.
I should.
That is a strategic answer.
I mean, it's not cynical.
It's hard-bitten, but to say, it's gas, gas, gas, groceries, groceries.
You may get an abortion once in your life, but we need to win.
That's really... You need to tweet that out.
Because that's strategic analysis.
It is.
And Doc, I put together a 13-page report on how these evangelicals in South Georgia felt about the issue.
I had another guy named Ron.
Ron was a very no-compromise on abortion.
And his response was, he said, sure, Michael, what works in Atlanta doesn't work in South Georgia.
What works in South Georgia doesn't work in Atlanta.
I said, well, Ron, what do you mean?
Please explain that.
He said, well, look, there are going to be people in Atlanta who believe in pro-choice.
He said, that's not what I believe, and that's not what most of us believe down South.
He said, so if Georgia had the option where voters could vote on the issue and they passed it, he said, people in Atlanta probably will continue to do it.
He said, but for those of us down here who believe in the good Lord, he said, we're not going to do it.
And that's the way these people saw this.
So to the question of how do Republican candidates talk about the issue?
Simple, based on my data from the focus group.
Talk about bringing it back to the state so that voters can decide.
And then continue to hammer the economy, immigration, those kitchen table issues that people really care about because those are the things that are going to move the needle.
Great.
See, this is what defines Americans.
We come from every place, we have every kind of accent, but for me, common sense.
What you heard from that voter in Shermichael's focus group is common sense.
What is it about?
Every single day, it's about groceries, gas, groceries, gas.
The left wants to make it about abortion, but for the average American, that is not your daily issue.
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I'm not gonna, I can't believe I'm gonna say this.
Watch this guy on CNN, but don't watch the rest of it.
Okay, just only when he's on.
Okay, so go to his Twitter feed.
And when he says I'm going on there, you can watch it.
And then you go back to not watching crap.
Follow him at M. Marshall Michael on Twitter.
Let's we've been strategizing for the good guys for the Republicans.
Let's flip for the last few minutes.
Okay.
And as a political strategist, how do we deal?
What's your reaction to the fact?
We have an administration, we have a DNC, we have a president who's trying desperately to placate pro-Hamas Americans who are shutting down bridges, who are shouting from the river to the sea, who think that the president of Harvard, you know, is right when she says, well, calling for the genocide of the Jews is a contextual thing.
Schoenmichael, what happened to the Democrat Party?
They have allowed a very fringe, a very loud and vocal extremist faction within their party take over.
I mean, this is why you saw the president at the White House release a statement two days ago saying that if Israel, under Mr. Netanyahu, decides to counteract this 500-plus missiles, I believe, launched from Iran, ballistic missiles and drones, that the U.S.
will not do anything.
And my thing is, we know for a fact from our intelligence communities, Dr. Gorka, that Iran is about 60% close in terms of reaching full potential with their uranium.
Or closer.
Or closer, we don't know, because Russia could be helping them.
So now you have Israel's most vociferous enemy, I would argue, close to a nuclear missile.
What's to stop Iran, once they get that nuclear missile, from threatening to launch one towards Israel?
And now Israel's longest-serving ally is saying, well, you know, there's not much we can do about it because the President of the United States is trying to seek re-election because he saw what happened in Michigan, he saw what happened in Wisconsin.
But it's interesting because when you look at the data, and this is me going back to being a strategist, the overwhelming majority of Americans of every ethnicity, of every political stripe, says we want to support Israel.
That doesn't mean we want boots on the ground, but we want to send them weapons.
We want to send them funding to continue to build up and bolster that Iron Dome.
Which is very effective, Dr. Gorka, in preventing the deaths of innocent Israeli people.
This is not over.
I think this is going to continue.
And I have to be quite honest with you, I am not sure if Israel can really depend on the United States under this current administration.
Because in my view, the president is attempting to placate to an extremist group of people that he realizes he needs in order to win.
A lot of younger people within the Democratic Party.
They turned out for him by substantial margins in 2020.
They made a difference in some places.
And now they may not vote.
Now they may not vote at all for him.
Yeah.
And that's a problem for Joe Biden.
And so this is dangerous.
I think Allies of the United States of America need to know that the United States will have their back.
And under this administration, that is not the case.
It is a sad, sad day.
Will the Democrat Party ever recover?
I know one way to make it recover.
Trounce them on November 5th.
Turn out?
Yeah, turn out.
Make your friends turn out and get involved right now politically.
It's up to us.
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