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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: First time on AMERICA First - The man who killed Bin Laden
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So, I'm going to go ahead and get started.
I'm going to go ahead and get started.
I'm going to go ahead and get started.
We had some amazing things happen today.
As you know, my son has graduated from high school and it looks like the judge will not let me go to the graduation of my son who's worked very, very hard.
He's a great student.
I'm so proud of him that he did so well.
I was looking forward for years to have a graduation with his mother and father there and it looks like the
judge isn't going to allow me to escape this scam it's a scam trial if you read all of the legal pundits
all of the legal scholars today there's not one that i see that said this is a case that
should be brought or tried it's a scam it's a political witch hunt
what has that man given up for others in the last 70 years Ah.
I don't mean, you know, not getting a paycheck and the billion dollars he lost from his companies while he was president.
But think about everything else.
His reputation.
His freedom to live unassailed by those who lie about him 24 hours a day.
And now?
Some quote-unquote judge says he can't go to the graduation of his youngest child?
This is a war, my friends.
This is a war.
I'm Sebastian Gawker and this is America First.
Judge Murchan, who's overseeing the case in New York, which by all accounts is fake law.
You can't charge somebody for federal elections crimes when you're a local court in New York and not a federal court.
You can't do it when the statute of limitations has expired and you're talking about a business expenditure for a non-disclosure agreement.
Exactly the same as the non-disclosure agreement I signed with the Trump Organization when I became President Trump or Candidate Trump.
Candidate Trump's advisor in 2015 for national security issues.
To say, oh, well, that contract benefited him in the upcoming elections, therefore it's a federal election crime.
Well, the Department of Justice and the Federal Election Commission said, no.
In fact, the prior district attorney to Alvin Bragg, Cyrus Vance Jr., said, no, there is no case to bring.
I'm not bringing a case.
But then along comes an angry black Democrat who campaigns on putting President Trump behind bars, takes George Soros' money.
No, not a conspiracy theory.
Look it up, Democrats.
He prejudices the current case, and then they bring it?
This is about pure and simple hatred.
I have one thing to say today, and it's to every single American out there.
If you're seeing this on my Instagram post, somebody shares it with you from my rumble, or if you're listening live across the nation, the only thing that matters now is courage.
And you can say, oh Gawker, it's God, it's faith.
Yeah, but they're all connected.
If you don't believe in God and the truth, you will not have courage.
And if you aren't courageous, you can't say you're a Christian.
You can't be a coward and be a Christian.
You can't stand up for the truth by hiding.
Right now, we need everyone to be a little bit like President Trump.
Because what the left says is an utter complete lie.
He's not doing it for the money.
He's not doing it for the fame.
This is a man whose last name was a global brand before he came down that escalator.
He's a billionaire who lost billions by running for the presidency.
So why is he doing it?
Why is he facing the possibility of not going to his son's high school graduation tomorrow?
There's only one reason.
Courage.
Courage to fight for America.
I was texting back and forth with my friend Andrew Klavan and he's talking about young men on the conservative right who live in something called the Anonosphere where they post podcasts and commentary anonymously.
And Andrew said This strikes me as pitiful.
And he's right.
It is pitiful.
In only the way that he can.
He's such a wordsmith.
He writes, While social pressure can make you into a liar, having no responsibility for your own good name can turn you into a monster.
My response is, what we need now is thousands Tens of thousands, millions of Ajax's, miniature General Patton's, individual Donald Trump's, who are prepared to stand in public for the truth, for America, for all that we hold sacred, to bear the slings and arrows.
Because if you don't, what do you stand for?
My argument has been for the longest time, you cannot profess values you are unwilling to publicly stand up for.
If you don't put your name to your values of truth, justice, The United States.
You do not represent those values.
You're just another coward.
You're a faceless nobody.
In fact, you're worse than the left.
Because the left publicly say death to America on the streets of Michigan.
They publicly say the browning of America with illegal immigrants is good.
Just read the long article in the Atlantic about it.
This is no conspiracy theory from clickbait merchants like Tucker Carlson.
It's the left.
Proud of it.
If you're hiding now, where are you going to hide if they win on November 5th?
Where are you going to run to?
There is nowhere to run to.
There is nowhere else to hide.
I tell you now, If you don't stand up for America with your name, with your public persona, and politically get involved for the next seven months, you are no American and you don't love America.
If you behave like President Trump and are willing to be buffeted By the haters, you are a great patriot, and I salute you, and all who love America salute you.
I'm Sebastian Gorky.
We'll be talking to a rather important person next.
He killed Osama bin Laden.
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but i would hope that the iranian that that the israelis railings.
Would do just what Alex was talking about and take the win without having a need to lash out at Iran, because that could easily draw the entire region into a lighter war, and that could draw the US into a lighter war, which is the last thing that the Biden administration wants.
The clown the Trump derangement syndrome patient zero max boot take the win oh yeah uh being fired at 400 times by drones and cruise missiles that's a win max boot is it pathetic panderer I remember a day where um We took terrorism seriously.
Israel did what it had to do, and so did we.
We'll talk about that momentarily.
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Okay, let's go back in time.
Let's go back to May 2nd, 2011, where justice was dealt.
I do believe it was dealt by a 5.56 caliber bullet to the skull.
This is a reminder of what happened that day all across America.
Cut, 14.
USA!
Times Square looked more like a party as hundreds took part in the celebration.
It's a great hour for USA, great day for USA.
In Philadelphia, instead of the game, baseball fans were glued to their phones.
While some broke out in chants of USA, USA.
New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg called the killing of Bin Laden a critically important victory.
And nowhere was that victory felt more than here at Ground Zero, where nearly 3,000 people were killed in the attacks.
Now that he's finally dead, it's a...
It feels good.
Michael Carroll lost his father, a firefighter, on 9-11.
He says Bin Laden's death won't ease his pain, but it does bring some closure.
To feel excited about somebody's death is a weird feeling, but when it comes to him, it's alright.
Justice Delt.
Who killed him?
There's a bit of a controversy.
But the man who wrote the book, let's put it up on the screen, the operator firing the shots that killed Osama Bin Laden in my years as a SEAL Team Warrior.
SEAL Team 6's Rob O'Neill.
Welcome to America First, my friend.
Thank you for having me, Dr. Girk.
Good to be with you.
All right, so we connected.
We were on the same stage together for that great Patriot, Tom Homan, recently in Mar-a-Lago.
Great to get you on the show today.
So much to discuss.
So first things first, will you walk us through that day?
Because we forget these things far, far, far too rapidly.
Tell us about the raid.
Tell us about the last few minutes of that evil savage's life, please.
Sure.
We'd been told about two weeks prior to launching the mission that we were one of five options.
So we forward-staged in Jalalabad, Afghanistan.
We got the green light on a Friday.
We left on Sunday.
And the most interesting parts of that mission were actually the 90-minute flight in, because we don't know if these helicopters are as stealthy as they say.
We're probably going to get shot down.
There will be a gunfight.
If anyone's going to blow himself up, it's bin Laden.
We're going to run out of fuel and end up in Pakistan.
And once we got there, we trained on that mission for two weeks, and on a Wednesday night, the boss said, what's the worst thing that could happen?
And the youngest guy in the room said the helicopter could crash in the front yard.
Maybe we should talk about that for 30 seconds.
So we needed 30 seconds to train for that.
That is a smart person.
Whoever predicted that problem with the helicopter, I hope he got a promotion.
Yeah, he did, actually.
And I hope, yeah, but even to the point that the leadership was so good, even when we crashed, Admiral McRaven was in charge of the whole thing.
He was talking to the White House, but he didn't know if we just lost half the team.
But he knew the White House freaking out wouldn't change it.
So he said, obviously, there's been a contingency, but my men are prepared to handle this.
And, you know, I was supposed to be on the rooftop.
I ended up in the front yard following guys.
It was mostly impressive just how nobody Nobody hesitated.
Slow is smooth.
Smooth is fast.
This place should blow up.
We're looking for bombs.
And the intel from certain agencies was so good, they said that on the stairs, you're going to run into Khalid Bin Laden, who's about 20 years old.
The woman that found him said if you ace him, you get a shot at the big guy.
And I was about eight guys back.
The point man saw Khalid.
They shot him.
Once we got to the second floor, everyone in front of me except the point man went left and right, and it was two of us left to go up one set of stairs.
I was behind him, and he was just sort of saying, we got to go because they're going to blow up.
They're going to set off their suicide bombs, their vests, but if we go right now, we can beat them.
And my job as the number two man was just to squeeze them.
I'm like, it wasn't even me trying to be brave.
It was more of a, let's get this over with.
I think the guy in front of me was brave.
So I squeezed him.
He went up and he thought they were suicide bombers one way.
And he, he, he jumped on them to absorb the blast for the guy behind him.
He didn't know it was me.
He knew it was one of his guys.
And because he went left, I went right.
And Osama Bin Laden was standing there behind his wife, Amal, and I saw him for a second.
He was taller than I thought.
His beard was white, skinnier than I thought.
But he's not surrendering.
He's sort of maneuvering.
He's got to wear a vest.
And the way you take care of a suicide bomber, just shoot him in the face.
So I shot him in the face and even that there's humanity everywhere after I can hear him taking his last breaths.
And I looked down and his two year old son was looking sort of at me.
And as a father, I thought, you know, this kid's got nothing to do with this.
I moved him and his mom out of the way.
Other seals came in and was sort of sinking in.
And one of my guys came up to me and said, You okay?
And I said, yeah, what do we do now?
And he said, well, now we find the computers.
We do this every night.
Iraq, Afghanistan, hundreds and hundreds of times.
And I said, you're right.
I'm back.
Wow.
And he said, yeah, you just killed Osama bin Laden.
Your life just changed.
Now get to work.
And that kind of clicked me in.
We got to work.
We found three offices full of computers and hard drives and papers and opium, a ton of opium.
I think they were selling.
And we wanted 32 minutes on the ground for a response.
There was so much stuff.
We stayed for 47 minutes.
And how did you get everybody out if you lost one of those stealth helicopters?
We had two Chinooks behind us and flown by the best pilots in the world, TF-160, Night Stalkers, and they just positioned them on a mountaintop somewhere nearby with other Navy SEALs on board because in case of a big fight, they're going to come in and be our quick reaction force.
So we called one of them, we put bombs on the other helicopter, And the coolest part of the mission, I think, because I mean, you mentioned there was controversy.
There's no controversy.
Our team killed him.
I'm just telling you what I saw.
But SEAL Team 6 actually, SEAL Team 6 and the Army rescued SEAL Team 6 on that mission.
That's what's so cool.
The team just came together.
Worst plan ever.
And then we left.
Now we're flying home.
We got to fly 90 minutes.
And if we can live for 90 minutes, we get to see our kids again.
90 minutes.
They definitely know we're here, so they're going to scramble some jets or something.
So just start your watch.
And worrying about a missile's not going to stop it.
Right, right.
So there's no point worrying about, you know, a Mach 2 missile hitting you.
We talked to Rob O'Neill.
We have so much more to discuss.
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mics are hot they said it was uh it was a one degree celsius warmer and
then there were mud walls instead of of chain link fences.
And the pilot knew that if he would have powered up, it would have killed everyone because it would have flipped.
But if he could pin it to the wall and the ground, they might all live.
And he made that decision in the blink of an eye.
And again, never gets mentioned.
There's the hero right there.
They look incredible.
The pilots are incredible.
And they, you know, they always say true or quiet professionals.
The pilots actually are.
Oh, yeah.
So yeah.
And what do you think was the reason that the Pakistanis just were just like out to lunch that they didn't respond?
Well, they didn't expect it.
And that because it was near their military academy.
But I tell people if we got if we got invaded near West Point, the cadets aren't going to show up.
It'll be the local police.
Yeah.
So while we want we want to get out of there before the local cops, that's it.
And why they didn't.
You know, we had a guy outside fluent Urdu saying, hey, this is an Intel mission for ISI.
Sorry.
Yeah.
And that calmed him down.
And and again, I mean, maybe a higher power was on our side because if it can go wrong, it did.
Good stuff.
Alright, one more segment and then it's just going to be about 7 minutes long.
Alright, I'm going to do my pillow at the top, T up, mute, and then we're going to go to Rob.
Pillow at the top, T up, 7, then to Rob.
Alright, 30 seconds.
30 seconds.
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All right, I'm sure our guest has opinions on this take.
Former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, getting pretty hardcore on Americans who
hate America.
I think we ought to go back and learn the lessons of the 1930s.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt was faced with a Nazi effort inside the United States.
They locked people up.
I believe, frankly, we should say, if you are for the victory of Iran, if you want to scream death to America, we're deporting you.
If you're an American, we're going to try you for treason.
You can't get up and say death to America as an American citizen.
And it's time that we were prepared to defend the survival of the United States.
And I think it's time we confronted head-on a president who clearly, on every single front, From Ukraine, where he favours Russia, to what's happened in Afghanistan, where in the end he favoured the Taliban, to what's happening in Gaza, where he favours Hamas, to what's happening with Iran, where he favours the Iranians.
On every front, Joe Biden is on the side of the people who hate America.
Pretty hardcore, we love.
New to Rob O'Neill.
What do you think of his take about those who call death for America here in America?
Duke Gingrich is 100% right.
Every decision this administration makes is anti-American.
When we withdrew from Afghanistan, one of the points I made is, if we took the tactical minds that planned the Bin Laden raid and they asked us to plan the worst possible way to lead Afghanistan, we would have done exactly what this administration did.
And it's, I mean, they're locking up parents who go to, you know, I'm still amazed that 48% of people vote Democrat.
up there is yelling death to America and Michigan but nobody does anything
because that happens to be a swing state. It tells you their party is more
important in the country. They don't they care about their own power and their own
party and that is it. I'm still amazed that you know 48% of people vote
Democrat. They do not care about you. And let's talk about one of those Democrats.
I got, I don't usually get this on Instagram, got over a thousand comments
comments not likes, comments on my rant about Alan Richson who plays a veteran
Jack Reacher and in an interview last week he said you're not a Christian if
you vote for President Trump who's a rapist and a con man.
What do you say to this man who thinks he's a tough guy because he played one once on television?
Well, I told him on Twitter that, you know, you're a tough guy on TV, but you're not a tough guy in real life.
So in not so many words, bug off.
And now, granted, I did.
I Googled him afterwards.
He's like 6'9", so I prefer a conversation.
But hang on, hang on.
He's a meathead.
But you know what his first job was in the real world?
I mean, he's good at pretending to be a tough guy.
Do you know what his first job was, Rob?
No.
He was a model for Abercrombie & Fitch.
Oh, no.
Okay.
All right.
I don't take any of it back then.
I mean, for him to just say that, too, you're not a, okay, you're not a Christian.
He's probably pro-late-term abortion, which is basically, if anything makes the devil smile, that's it.
Bingo.
And calling someone a rapist.
I mean, they're just, that's what they do.
When people get loud and start screaming, they lost.
They have no argument.
It's just ad hominem.
We've got 60 seconds left.
We're talking to Rob O'Neill, the host of The Operator podcast, author of the book The Operator.
I've got to ask you one question, the one that really concerns me so much after all my work with the U.S.
military over the years.
If, God willing, we do our part and President Trump wins, can we stop the woke-ification of the U.S.
military?
Yes, we can.
And the way to do that, I mean, if, hey, if he needs to hire me, I'll go fire a bunch of people at the Pentagon.
They need to cut a lot of the top political leadership off and put like 04s, 05s in charge of the whole shebang because they're at a level where they want to work for certain government contractors or they want to be politicians.
So they're going to play the party line.
And that's where we lose the leadership.
The enlisted people, the junior officers are great.
The senior enlisted has a major problem and starts, you know, starts with TikTok.
That's all on purpose.
Can I, can I push it down a bit?
Can I say, oh, five's a little high.
Can I say major or below?
Okay.
Major and below.
All right.
And the warrant officers, we love our warrant officers.
Okay.
Uh, you guys, you're why the military works.
So God bless you guys.
Um, amazing.
Okay.
Let's have this guy back for our manhood hour.
This is going to be an amazing, amazing guest.
Follow him in the meantime, right now, MC who?
Yeah.
On Twitter, Robert, Rob O'Neill, host of the operator podcast.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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Well, if you look at what's happened in Ukraine, what's taking place in Israel, what's happening with respect to the Chinese regime, the only thing these authoritarian regimes respect is strength.
And the fact is the West has shown too much weakness.
Taking the sanctions off Iran, trying to renegotiate a nuclear deal.
I believe that was the wrong strategy.
And actually, the free world felt safer when President Trump was in office because those leaders were afraid of what Trump might do.
Jeff, is that a foreign politician saying that we need Trump back?
Yes it is.
Is that the former Prime Minister of England?
Yes it is.
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Tomorrow.
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I am convinced he only comes on this show To aggravate me because he smokes a cigar while I'm interviewing him just to rub it in that I can't smoke while I'm doing my show.
He is the great patriot on Capitol Hill that fights the swap creatures every single day.
Congressman Troy Nels, how you doing?
Sounds to me like Liz would become, would be a great speaker.
Oh, wow!
Well, look, anybody can be a speaker, right?
I mean, I could be speaker.
President Trump could be speaker.
That's very interesting, isn't it?
Yeah, we're having some problems up here.
It's an interesting week up here.
We're talking about supplemental... But you said at the break that Mike Johnson is safe.
I believe he's safe because if you can recall what we went through three weeks after we got rid of Kevin McCarthy.
When I say we, the eight, we got rid of Kevin McCarthy.
It took us three weeks.
We got deep into the bench and we have Mike Johnson.
But if you're going to come up with a problem and identify a problem, and I think Mike has got some problems, don't get me wrong, but you've got to have a solution.
And I don't know right now of anybody in our conference that could get the votes to become speaker.
Who would want the job today?
So I just think there's no one in our field and our entire team that could assume that job.
We have what we have, and let's just focus on Donald Trump for 2024.
Great message.
Let's talk about the other vote that is impending.
You, since you are from Texas, the 22nd District, you're a veteran, you're a former sheriff, you just released the book, Borderless by Design.
Is Mayorkas safe?
What's the situation with the impeachment, Congressman?
Well, of course he's safe.
I think he's safe.
I think we knew that when we brought the—when we decided to impeach him here.
I voted for impeachment.
I think he's horrible.
I think he's—as a matter of fact, he should probably be charged criminally for what he's done to the American people.
But they're going to walk those things over there today.
And I think Chuck Schumer, he's a pretty—the way he operates things over there, I don't see this getting much attention.
I know that we have Republican senators over there that are going to try to make it difficult and say this should get the attention it deserves.
These impeachment articles, but I think Chuck Schumer is ready to figure this out, and I think it just dies, and I think it dies quickly.
Again, we have Republican senators that want to see this get the attention it deserves, rightfully deserves, but Chuck Schumer doesn't seem to care about that, doesn't care about the American people, puts the American people last.
He wants an open border.
I think he's going to do everything he can to try to help minimize the damage to Mayorkas.
That's what I believe.
Let's talk about money, money, money.
A lot of people who are America First, who are, you know, conservatives fiscally, have issues with the way Capitol Hill spends our money.
What's the situation with the supplemental budgets, Congressman?
Well, it's just, it's billions and billions more for Ukraine.
They have a few, you know, I think a double-digit number for Israel.
They got some stuff in there for Taiwan and stuff, and the Indo-Pacific.
But the problem is, is that Is that I will not support giving Ukraine another nickel.
Now, whether these bills come to the floor individually, there are concerns in the conference that if they come through individually and we send them over to the Senate as individual bills, the Israel package may not pass.
And I'm concerned about the Democrats, the Democrats in the Senate not supporting Israel.
We need to let the American people know that, specifically the Jewish people up there in New York and the East Coast.
But there's just a lot of money out there, and there's nothing.
There's not a nickel again.
Not a nickel to address our southern border.
There's no border legislation in any of this.
I'm a no, I'm a hell no.
And I brought up earlier today, I said, why are we even voting on these things?
Why do we have to vote?
Don't tell me that Saturday, all of a sudden, what Iran did on Saturday is causing us to do a knee-jerk reaction and say, OK, the sky is falling, we better give them money today or it ends for us.
And then the scare tactic about saying Kiev could end here, you know, it could be finished for Kiev and they could take over Kiev and Ukraine in the next 30 days.
I just don't, I don't listen to these scare tactics.
I'm not going to do it.
We've got to do something about our own border.
That's the leverage we have.
And then let's consider supplemental spending on our foreign countries.
We've got a minute left.
We're talking to Congressman Troy Nels, Texas 22nd District.
Follow him at RepTroyNels, that's N-E-H-L-S, Nels.House.Gov.
He is the author of the brand new book, Borderless by Design.
Congressman, the president is back in court.
The prosecution wants to hold him in contempt.
They want to arrest him if he goes to his son's graduation tomorrow.
Is this going to make him even stronger?
What's your take on the latest instance of lawfare against President Trump?
I think the American people are going to look at this, and I think they have.
They've looked at this left, the far left, whether it's Phony Fanny, Letitia James, Alvin Bragg, all these individuals seem to be in bed with George Soros or vice versa.
This is just an attack on the greatest leader of my lifetime, the nominee, the Republican nominee, Donald Trump.
And they're doing everything they can to try to damage him and do everything they can to try to keep him off the ballot.
Well, all I say is good luck.
Good luck to that.
But the idea that they would not allow President Trump to go to Barron's graduation, that judge, that wacko judge, I think is shameful.
I think it could hurt him, because there are many grandma and grandpas that travel from city to city, out of state, to go visit and to go witness a grandchild's graduation.
So to do this against Donald Trump, to me, it just shows the hatred The hatred they have on Donald Trump.
I think it could backfire.
I don't know if Donald Trump's going to challenge a judge, possibly, and just go and see what happens.
But I just don't think it's—it just shows that this is a two-tiered justice system, that we have some wacko judges out there, and we have district attorneys and attorney generals and stuff that just—they don't put America first.
They weaponize their offices to go after their adversaries.
The book is borderless by design.
He has to go back to fighting the swamp creatures and smoking a stogie.
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I don't think so.
I have his email though.
Can you email him?
Because we were supposed to call him back two weeks ago to talk about Relief Act.
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Alright I'm going to try to get this to work.
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Oh, I need to...
Alright.
Alright, so many good cards.
Alright, so many good cuts.
Yeah, the Michael Moore one's interesting.
Yeah, I'll probably tee that up.
Why don't you come in with 11?
Come in with 11 and then tee up 13.
Yep, 13.
Yep.
you Old Joe tried to tell him, don't.
I have one word, don't.
Don't.
What is your message to Hezbollah and its backer, Iran?
Don't.
Don't, don't, don't.
Don't.
What is your message to Iran in this moment?
Don't.
But all the radical mullahs heard was, don't listen to this old fart.
Did he actually say that on cable television?
God bless Greg Gutfeld.
Now he's a man of the right.
He's a conservative.
He's a patriot.
But the next cut might be a little bit more interesting.
I'm curious what my team thinks why he's saying this.
This is an arch leftist and a propagandist.
He's Michael Moore.
You may have heard of him.
And he, I didn't know this, he has a podcast and he's sending a message to, what did Greg call him?
The old fart in the White House.
Cut 13.
We could end this.
President Biden, you could end this now.
You know, what's wrong.
I know, you know, what's wrong.
And I know I sound like a broken record.
And I know that, you know, that you're going to lose this election in part, because too many people are going to stay home.
They're not going to vote for Trump.
They're not going to switch their vote from you to Trump.
No, that is not how this is going to play out.
As what happened to Hillary in Michigan, she lost by two votes per precinct.
Two for the whole state.
Two.
And that's what's going to happen to you.
Now I think he's right, but why is he saying it, Jeff?
And what's he saying, you could solve it?
By what?
Stepping down?
What's Michael Moore doing?
He's talking about the Israel war there, is the problem, and he's saying that young people... Oh, so he's saying if you keep supporting Israel, you'll lose the election, so he wants him to not support Israel?
Yeah.
Oh, so he's just another Jew-hater?
Well, no, I think he really thinks it.
He's said this a few times about Biden really having trouble to win because of the young people and stuff.
I think he believes it.
And this is the problem they have.
Forget about independence.
That's what Trump's going after now.
They don't even have the base wrapped up yet.
We're six months away.
They're scrambling with three or four different things that the base has a problem with.
That's interesting.
Eric, is Moore on the money?
I think he is.
Just like famously, you know, in 2016, he did that event right before the 2016 election on stage in front of the audience, which was then televised.
Hillary is going to lose because a lot of voters will come out to vote for Trump as a great big crude gesture to the establishment.
And once again, I think he's right.
I think it can be safe to say Israel, as it's unfolding now, like Jeff said, they don't have the base locked up anymore.
Israel will be to Biden what Vietnam was to LBJ.
Do you concur, Guy?
Is Biden in trouble over Israel?
Yes or no?
Yes, sir.
I agree with Jeff.
Yes, sir.
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Is he in trouble over Israel?
I think so, yes.
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Before the jury selection even started this morning, prosecutors argued that Trump had violated his gag order and asked Judge Murchan to hold Trump in contempt for criticizing potential witnesses in social media posts, asking him to fine Trump $3,000.
Only 3K?
But I guess that's on brand for Trump.
KKK Is that meant to be funny I guess
this.
Welcome back, dear friends.
We were having quite a lively discussion in the break there about the election, about what happened in 2020 and what happened in 2024 or what we can expect to happen.
Is it about economics?
I tend to think it is.
Even if we have the likes of Karine or Jean-Pierre saying the following.
Cut to.
But it is important that it is cheaper.
It is cheaper to get gas than it was a year ago.
And that's because of what this president has been doing.
Because of historic... Jeff, you drive to work, right?
You have a pretty long commute.
Yeah, about an hour.
How much was gas when President Trump was in office?
It's not just that it was below two bucks.
It's the only time in my life for four years consistently it was below two dollars.
Right.
Because we opened up fracking.
Yes, of course.
And everything else that you would do to have low energy costs.
Right.
So here's the question.
Let's open it up to those who weren't part of it.
Our massive team here in the break.
Is it going to be about... Look, we are all political freaks.
We love politics.
That's why we do this.
But I have to admit that I believe that elections, especially when it's about the center, are about the economy, stupid.
What do you think, Jeff?
In the last year, almost every single focus group they do where they have people that voted for Biden that said they're willing to vote for Trump this time.
One of two things they always say is money.
Right.
It's always what comes up.
And it's almost what comes up every single time is the only reason.
But Eric, you do not concur.
I don't agree, and here's why.
I think, ultimately, when it comes down to the power of messaging, the economy, yeah, you can point to gas prices, grocery prices, being higher than they were.
At absolute most, that annoys voters.
Like, oh man, gas is high, ugh, that's so annoying.
That does not anger them, it does not scare them.
You need to get them either angry or scared.
Democrats are great at this.
Trump is colluding with Russia, Trump's gonna be a dictator, rah rah rah, they don't talk.
They, of course, didn't talk about the economy, because it was great under Trump.
You've got to focus on those really Issues that tug at the heartstrings and President Trump knows this that's why he talks primarily about immigration He's talking about the cases against him, which like you know they're coming after
you, I'm just standing away. They could go after all of you as well. Those more
heartstring issues, as I call them, are gonna be more powerful in getting our
people out. One last thing too is I think voters who really care about the
economy, who are gonna vote based on opening up their wallet, they're already
gonna vote Republican at the end of the day no matter what.
We don't need to worry about getting those people. You need to convince
people who otherwise wouldn't vote for Trump and you convince them with things
like immigration, transgenderism, CRT, those cultural issues.
Or the price of filling your car with gas?
All of the above.
Oh!
The wisdom of Solomon!
He has cut the Gordian Knot!
Our in-house philosopher!
How did I?
How?
I should have known he would bring that answer.
Nicely done.
Nicely done.
One last cut and then I'm going to talk to you about my latest location.
It's a new location for my personal story.
This is from the man who, the more he speaks, the harder it is to believe, was allegedly a member of Congress from the Republican Party.
And he's got a question for you, dear listener.
If you dared to vote for President Trump, and if you dare to vote for him again, Joe Scarborough, cut three.
You live in the most powerful, greatest country on the face of the earth, and you're voting for a guy that tells you every day that America sucks?
What's wrong with you?
Who raised you?
What history did you read?
That's it.
Like, where are you from?
Because you may claim to be from where I'm from, but you were not raised by the same teachers I was raised by.
And you don't read.
Because if you read, Mike, the facts are clear!
And I'm getting tired of saying this to people who claim to be patriotic but hate America, because they're always running America down.
They're always trashing America.
They're always saying, America's horrible, its democracy doesn't work, we need a dictatorship if Donald Trump doesn't win.
Who said that, Jeff?
I'm trying to think.
Which famous political actor said we need a dictator to fix America?
Who was that?
He said if Donald Trump doesn't win.
So it makes sense.
That means Joe Biden will win.
So conservatives want Joe Biden to be a dictator if Trump doesn't win.
Let me just analyze something for you guys.
I think it's in my latest article on my Substack.
The Genius.
Think of three letters.
I'd love to know who came up with it during the campaign, whether it was Corey or somebody else in 15.
Think about MAGA for a second.
It's a genius acronym.
It's a genius campaign slogan.
But what does it mean?
What do those four words actually mean?
It's more than a slogan.
Make America Great Again.
It's actually a diagnosis of the past.
It is a diagnosis of the present.
And it's a prescription for the future.
In three letters.
I mean, that is genius political communication.
Why?
Make America Great Again infers what?
America was great.
It also infers America is not currently great.
And also it's an imperative call to action.
We want America to be great again.
That's what patriots believe, as opposed to those who try to destroy it, dismantle the border, and just give our enemies billions of dollars.
That's the truth.
Genius.
Okay.
I meant to share this story yesterday.
It comes from the weekend.
Is it four or five places we have, Eric, for my life stories that I share here?
What are we up to?
Post office, Walking the Dogs, 7-Eleven, and the vet.
And the vet.
Okay, the vet.
After our poor dog, Killian, has left us.
So these are the four locations.
I'm adding a fifth.
I'm adding the barber's shop or the hairdresser.
At the weekend, I hate doing this, but I went to get a little trim from my stylist, my barber.
Now listen to this story.
It's Saturday, so the fathers are taking their little boys for haircuts.
And there's this little kid... Oh, hang on, sorry.
Scrub that.
I didn't see any children.
I'm just paying attention to my hairdresser, my barber, and myself.
And I see this guy sitting on the side of the hairdressers, in one of those poses that only men without testicles Can do.
Do you know when a man crosses his legs so the one leg is lying completely on top of the other one?
So knee on top of knee.
Like a woman.
Like the way only a woman can cross her legs.
Not crossways, but on top of each other.
Like he has no penis.
Okay?
And I'm thinking, that is the most soy latte drinking quote-unquote man I've ever seen.
That cannot be.
That man cannot have an ounce of testosterone in his body.
Then, I see him talk to a little boy, like a seven-year-old boy, who's sitting on a little, you know, propped-up chair, getting his hair cut.
And I thought, oh, I made a mistake.
He just crosses his legs differently, and he's a man.
Then the kid finishes his haircut, The hairdresser takes off the kind of shawl that covered him.
Underneath he's wearing the coolest fancy dress I've ever seen.
It is the Luke Skywalker X-wing pilot's suit in orange and white.
And I said, that is the coolest thing I've ever seen!
And the father says, thank you.
Okay, now here's the crux.
The father takes the kid's seat and he gets a trim.
He hands over his phone to the little boy.
And the kid who's sitting six feet away from me starts watching a cartoon.
And as the hairdryers, you know, pause for a moment, I can hear what the little character in the cartoon is saying.
Direct quote.
And my pronouns are they and them, because I'm not comfortable with she and her.
Seven-year-old kid being programmed.
Transgender ideology in public.
And the father has nothing to say about it.
In fact, he's encouraging it.
And then, of course, my sagacious wife, when I told her the story 30 minutes later, said, Are you sure the father isn't gay?
And the kid isn't adopted?
And then the penny dropped.
It is such a war for the culture.
Six-year-old boy being told there's more than two genders.
And he's being pumped full of that evil ideology in public as his ball-less father, quote-unquote, sits there getting a trim.
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That is, it's... In public, with the volume up.
Oh yeah.
My, my, my pronouns are they and them.
A thousand percent, I would not raise my kids on technology like that much at all.
Well, look, when you find out that Zuckerberg and Gates don't give their kids electronics, then you think, well, that's interesting, isn't it?
I'm so impressed with my kids.
My kids...
Have cancelled their social media accounts.
Hey buddy!
That's huge.
Isn't that huge?
At their age, yeah.
My son doesn't have an Instagram account.
He cancelled it.
Oh my god.
Like.
Thank you.
Virginian.
Uh, uh,
uh, uh,
uh, Did you send all that stuff to Jeff?
About that other guest?
Yes.
Okay, good.
He has the Instagram link.
Perfect, perfect, perfect.
You could show it.
It's really dramatic.
Alright.
I can talk about it, but you can show it.
Okay.
I might use that boot cut again.
Which one?
The first one.
I've only used one so far.
Five, okay.
Coming with ten.
Come in with 10 and then probably use 5 again.
We don't have b-roll of the demonstrations, do we, on the bridges yesterday?
Not those.
I have like older, like the pro-Palestine ones from like long ago, but not the San Francisco and all that.
Put it on silent.
Oh, I'm definitely going to use Cut 11 again.
Can you pull out a little bit so we can see this book?
Let me see how that... Is there any way to pull out so we can see... Oh, no, it's behind the thing.
Never mind.
Hang on.
What if I move it?
What if I move it?
Let's have a look.
Is that good?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's good.
Yeah, what?
Yeah, come in with cut ten and then I...
Well, in the hour, I'll definitely... Yeah, yeah.
Of course, Gavuto's got Petraeus on.
HE CHUCKLES You can block the lines.
We're live, huh?
We will be in 50 seconds, yeah.
Yeah, live in 50 seconds, yeah.
Yeah.
Thanks for watching!
Bye!
I'm going to go ahead and close the webinar.
I like to say, I eat no for breakfast.
I don't hear no until maybe it's spoken the tenth time.
I'm going to use that now.
Oh, I eat no for breakfast.
What does that, Kamala, what does that even mean, you eat no for breakfast?
Is it something to do with Venn diagrams or school buses?
Your favorite topics?
Maybe somebody can explain it to us.
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All right, has there ever been an attack of this like on Israel, not from Iran and not directly?
What will the response be?
We are delighted to have back in studio the man who's literally written the book on Iran.
I'm not.
This is big strategic chess game and both are very good at it.
policy, my Newsmax colleague Professor Waleed Faris.
Professor, are you surprised that there hasn't been a robust response yet from Israel to
Iran? I'm not. This is big strategic chess game and both are very good at it. The
problem is that the Iran regime is backed by their allies fully, whatever they
want, Russia, China, North Korea, but Israel's ally, the administration, the US
administration is not fully full steam with Israel in striking back.
The Biden administration said, well, we'll send you weapons, you protect yourselves, you have a dome.
But you're not going to take that action all the way to Iran.
And you and I know why.
It's because of the Iran deal is still on.
Will you put in correct historic context that whilst the theocracy of Iran are the world masters of proxy warfare, why it is so significant that this is a direct attack from the soil of Iran to Israeli targets?
They are trying, Professor, to change the shape of the status quo.
In the past, you don't go against Israel.
They are testing.
We went against Israel.
We hit them, though not a massive hit, but a hit significant one.
You know, they use hundreds of missiles and drones.
They have thousands, tens of thousands waiting.
So it's like they want to trigger an Israeli response.
That's my assessment.
And then they know that the Biden administration is not going to go with them.
So it will appear Israel alone bombarding Iran.
And their plan is to go to the Security Council and get A ceasefire.
But that ceasefire may not just be between Israel and Iran.
It may cover Gaza.
So this whole maneuver is to unblock the Israeli response that we don't want a ceasefire in Gaza by saying, oh, you want to have a ceasefire across the region, you'll have to have a ceasefire here.
So this is fascinating.
This is why we have the good professor on the show.
They need To engineer a scenario which makes it impossible for Israel to finish the job in Gaza.
So they do this kind of strange thing because it's hundreds of vehicles but with no strategic impact on Israel.
90 plus percent intercepted.
One poor Druze girl, an eight-year-old, wounded.
But with an attempt to kind of force Israel to respond so then they can clamor at New York, we need a ceasefire that covers the whole region and that way they shut down in Israel.
This is fascinating.
That's the Persian level of strategic thinking.
Hyper-Persian, Professor.
I mean, they need to have people like us who studied strategic studies to understand the game.
It's drawing Israel to a battle.
coordinated with the Biden administration that they're not going to come with Israel.
Washington Post, New York Times, all those are saying, oh no, this is going to be the World War
Three and Four and Five. What's the solution? Ceasefire.
Everywhere. Talk to me about the significance of who helped Israel.
Now there's this story, I think it's a bit of positive propaganda, that one of the Jordanian princesses in her fighter shot down one of the drones.
But nevertheless, Jordan joined in, Jordan assisted, British elements assisted.
Is this bad for Iran?
Is this good for Israel?
Or is the overarching problem that the response from America wasn't robust because America knew it was going to happen and didn't stop it?
I think America, meaning the Biden administration at this point in time, not Congress, not the majority of the people, as you know, so well.
The Jordanians and also the Saudis, even the Emiratis, would have not accepted that any drone coming from Iran would cross their airspace.
They had to.
So there is no negotiation.
Otherwise, they would flip and become pro-Iranian.
So it's a good thing that Iranian pilots went up.
I don't know if it's a princess or not.
Jordanian?
Jordanian pilots did it.
But that means that there is something very interesting that has developed.
Israel has a card, a new card, which is there is a defensive alliance, non-declared alliance, a defensive non-declared alliance that has Israel, The United States in a limited fashion, Britain in a limited fashion, Jordan and other Arab countries in a limited fashion, they come together to stop the missiles from coming.
That's the alliance, defensive alliance, but there is no offensive alliance.
Talk to us about the significance that they had to traverse Iraq and that Iraq basically does what Iran does.
How significant is that?
It is significant and crazy.
The Prime Minister of Iraq timed his visit.
To meet with President Biden and the administration at that specific time to appear as the hero, as the leader, and he is basically supported by the Iran-backed militias.
And the Kurdish leaders were telling me, I mean, they are on the offensive against the Kurds, they are on the offensive against the Sunni Arabs, and they come here to get more money.
It looks like it's another Ukraine and... But a pit, a money pit.
Money pit, everywhere, along the borders of the Middle East.
But at the end of the day, Iraq knows, the regime in Iraq knows very well that they cannot keep pressuring all the components of Iraq, the Kurds, the Christians, the Sunni, and the liberal Shia do not like these militias.
I just want to remind everybody what we did when we were in the White House, when the President heard that Soleimani, the arch-terrorist, the most dangerous terrorist in the world, was traveling in the Middle East.
A man planning the murder of hundreds of U.S.
servicemen, he said, Kill him.
And when did we kill him?
We killed him in his convoy with a precision surgical attack after he had just landed in Baghdad and was in his convoy on the way to meet the Prime Minister of Iraq.
Just to send a message to the proxy in Baghdad.
That's how we did business.
in the Trump administration.
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Christians, we'll do that afterwards.
And now let's talk about what your measure is of how fragile Iran is.
Can you find Reza Pahlavi from yesterday?
You can come in with it.
Yeah.
Cough.
Uh, you can come in with it.
Yeah, you can come in with it.
Then I'll do my pillow.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Should I mention the Biden scandal?
Which one?
That he has been sued by the Iranian regime for 2.5 billion dollars, giving him a way to send more money.
I sent to us.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's that?
What's the argument of the what's what are they saying?
They are accusing the United States and one hostage.
Who's the?
Oh, yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
And so now they are on steroid trying to get money on steroids.
It's incredible, and they just give it.
They just give it.
Yeah.
Oh, we're going to save a hostage now for 2.5.
It's amazing.
When I was in Afghanistan in 2006, I was in Herat, and I could have been in Iran.
Everything was in Farsi.
All the shops were, like, traveling.
In 2006.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, the way they just across the whole region.
It's incredible.
Everywhere.
They had travel agents where you could buy tickets to go to, you know, Tehran from Afghanistan.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
Yeah.
Yeah, wow.
You spent time there?
Yeah, I visited four or five provinces.
Yeah, Warda, Kabul, Herat.
It was fascinating.
With the military or NGO?
With NATO.
Oh, with NATO?
Yeah, as a civilian.
Yeah.
Wow.
Very interesting.
You were there in the early stages?
Yeah, yeah.
It was depressing.
It was so depressing.
But you like the country?
Oh, yeah.
So the last day in Kabul, we were staying at ISAF.
And the whole thing was a propaganda thing.
It was the Americans and NATO trying to convince us that everything's superb.
And I said, I've had enough of rolling around in NATO convoys and armored personnel carriers.
I want to see Afghanistan without you know, a guide just by myself.
So I signed a waiver in case I get killed, and I just left the base and I walked around Kabul.
It was fascinating.
Chicken Street and everything was really interesting.
Really interesting.
And when you have a taxi driver who, in English, knows which day, Tuesday, Karzai has his pallets of cash
flown to his mansion in Abu Dhabi.
And then you realize that the local population just sees us as people facilitating Karzai's corruption.
Exactly.
You know, just a taxi driver.
Looks at us just propping up a regime.
These are political analysts, the taxi drivers.
Major political analysts.
Well, they see everything.
Yeah.
Fascinating.
And now it's much worse.
What was that?
Show me.
Guess who is suing the US government for billions of dollars?
Well, look.
When you release money to a regime and give it more means to finance its proxies and use
brutality at home, basically appeasement has proven that it only emboldens the regime.
Thank you.
That's Reza Pahlavi from the Shah's family that opposed the Shah of Iran, explaining that this is just terrorist financing.
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Perhaps the most important question, Waleed, is the state and the intelligence community calls it a hard target.
It's like North Korea.
It's hard to get accurate information out of Iran.
But what is, you've been following for decades, how robust or how fragile is the regime that was put in place in 1979?
I know under our administration, we almost bought it to its knees.
If we'd stayed in office for another four years, the regime would have collapsed and the Persian people would have taken control of their own country.
Now, with three and a half years of Biden, where is it?
Well, you hit it well.
Basically, from 2009 till 2017, it was eight years of Obama administration basically cutting deals with the regime.
What that means, billions and billions of dollars went to them.
I have to say, the idea that we give billions to a regime, it just sounds like a joke.
A regime that wishes to destroy us, and we give it billions.
Billions of dollars.
I don't know what historians are going to write about in the future, but this is ridiculous.
They created those militias with this money, Sebastian, across the region.
They developed intelligence services.
But the worst they've done, used that money to crush the revolution.
There were three, four revolutions happening, multiple times.
The first big one in 2009, I remember, was called the Green Revolution.
And that young woman who was killed on camera, shot to death.
Absolutely, Neda.
So President Obama said, you know, I understand you to the regime and the demonstrators on the streets.
I mean, your family lived in Budapest.
You know what it means when you are crushed.
They said, Obama, Obama, are you with them or are you with us in person?
Yes.
And that was the beginning of this collaboration between the U.S.
administration of Obama and the regime.
Have you understood the logic, because I don't understand the logic, apart from a very childish and dangerous logic, that they saw the rise of Sunni extremists like Al-Qaeda, like the Ikhwan, the Brotherhood, And so Obama thinks, well, we've got to balance out the Sunni extremists by helping the Shia extremists.
I can't think of any other logic.
What is the logic of giving the Shia, who want to murder us, more money?
Did you ever see, did you find the logic?
Actually, we're going to ask the academics behind the Obama administration, the media behind the Obama administration, trying to convince them exactly of this charade that you just mentioned.
Reality is, he cut a deal with the Shiite jihadists, that's the Iran deal.
He cut a deal with the Sunni jihadists that the Muslim Brotherhood deal, including the Taliban deal.
So what they were trying to tell the world is that we are smart, we are putting them one against the other.
What we have done exactly under the Obama and then Biden administration, we put the jihadists against the rest of the Muslim moderates.
That's what we have achieved.
It's so stunning that we have these Democrat liberal protesters talking about the murder of innocents in Gaza.
How many Persians, how many Muslims have been murdered by their own regime?
And I don't hear the Democrats protesting for the people of Persia.
It's what their leadership tell them.
Assad has killed around 500,000.
I mean, you pick all kind of communities in Iraq.
And then, of course, inside Iran, all these executions, all this torture, all this suppression.
Hamas suppressing any opposition inside Gaza.
That's what the American people need to understand.
Yeah, and the gaze for Gaza, that's the best one, when you have American homosexuals saying, we are with our brothers and sisters in quote-unquote Palestine, you know, the ones that actually kill you if you're homosexual.
This is the level of imbecility, of cretinism, of indoctrination.
But that is the modern left.
It isn't about truth.
It's about political power and it's about drones who have been brainwashed.
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You are always sending us amazing... I love guests who, like, do our research for us and help us out, but that's because he's a professor.
Of course he does.
And I want to explain this video.
It's from an Instagram account.
From a very brave lady, and I need to know the backstory, please play the latest cut, Eric.
Guess who is suing the US government for billions of dollars?
None other than the regime that we're already transferring billions of dollars to.
Yes, I'm talking about the Islamic regime in Iran.
The same regime that last September we transferred $6 billion to, to get some hostages back, and just recently released another $10 billion to, for absolutely nothing in return.
And now in a twisted, inhumane practice, this same regime that got $16 billion already from us is suing our government for another $2.5 billion and threatening, if they don't pay that, to murder and execute their abandoned U.S.
hostage in Iran.
This hostage is my father, Jimmy Sharmat.
Jimmy has been kept in a solitary cell for 1,350 days.
He has been kidnapped three years ago from the UAE, transferred to Iran, tortured for three years.
I'm sorry, I think I'm living in a fantasy land or in some kind of nightmare.
The Biden regime gives our worst enemy millions of dollars, billions of dollars, and then, sorry, what?
Iran is suing America?
Exactly.
As Giselle Sharma, the wonderful human rights activist, her father, Jimmy Sharma, an American national, was kidnapped from the UAE, taken to Oman and then to Iran.
For three years he has been tortured.
And now guess what?
The Iran regime is suing, not suing, he sentenced Biden administration and this poor guy there for 2.5 billion dollars.
Is this a way?
You know, is this a trade now?
Hostage trade?
They captured this man, tortured him, sentenced him to death and then are asking the administration to pay 2.5 or else in about 32 days they will execute him.
That's why his daughter is just And what is he accused of doing?
Of course, agent of Israel, agent of the United Command, professor, yeah!
We know that, we know how they operate.
So what can we do?
How can we help this woman and how can we help Jimmy?
Well, absolutely, we have to take that segment of your story and then broadcast it and ask as much as we can members of Congress To ask the administration to stop any transaction.
That's the only way.
That's the absolute only way to save that man.
But this man is a U.S.
citizen.
He's a U.S.
national.
Kidnapped outside of Iran.
Yes, it's transnational kidnapping.
Yeah.
From Dubai.
And then Dubai is protected by us.
We have our forces there.
And then taken through the Persian Gulf to Iran and tortured for three years.
The worst, Seb.
Last September, this administration paid $6 billion to get five U.S.
nationals.
He was not even among them.
I have a suspicion that there is something about this Mr. Charmat.
He might know something that the Biden administration doesn't want out there?
That's the feeling that we have.
I think you should have his daughter here.
We will.
Yeah, we will.
We will.
You've kindly offered to connect us.
It's quite stunning.
The idea that We're making our enemies stronger.
Yeah, we're feeding them.
We're feeding the crocodile.
Absolutely, and the crocodile is feeding the militias.
And the militias are attacking us and killing our people, our allies, bombarding Israel, trying to bombard Jordan.
You and I are historians.
I have never seen examples like these.
Neither World War II nor the Roman Empire.
But you've seen Beirut, you've seen the war, you understand Lebanon.
Are you seriously telling me that of everything you've witnessed, this is the worst geopolitical situation?
I have never seen a situation where we as Americans are feeding our enemies to kill us.
This is like, in we in French.
Never heard of this before.
We are feeding our enemies.
But let's be accurate here.
It's not we.
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This is where you have to fit the pieces of the puzzle together.
We are living in the most perverse of times.
It's not just an American problem.
You look at other countries of the world.
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It's a very simple mathematical equation.
If you think America is despotic, a terrorist state, endemically racist, neo-colonial, well, you're going to side with those who say the same things.
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Oh, the Israeli, in Bibi.
What would you say after the attack?
What would you advise me?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, that's great.
And then send me that segment alone, because that will, I love it.
We try to ask good questions.
No, no, you are the best in the business.
Wow.
What's the media tonight, Eric?
Say again?
What media do I have tonight?
Schmidt at 7.15.
I'll send you the topics now.
There's a lot.
Thanks.
Oh, hang on.
Spanish people are texting me.
Not for tonight.
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They're just saying we're going to be in Vegas doing something Thursday.
Unless you want to do the show with Natalie.
Um, is there another day he wants to do it?
Let me ask him.
Does he want to do Wednesday or Friday?
Hang on, hang on.
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Ask him if he wants to do Friday or tonight.
No, Friday.
Friday.
Asking.
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No cuts here?
I don't think so.
I never got to the melon cap.
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He's going to be on my show on Newsmax on Sunday.
I need, you know, with your geopolitical mind, your historic expertise, if you were advising The Prime Minister of Israel, after this unbelievable attack from Iran, what would Professor Faris be saying to the Prime Minister?
Mr. Prime Minister, first of all, be independent in your actions and the safety of Israel.
Be mindful that you have allies in the region who could work for you.
Be mindful that more than half of America, at least in Congress, are with you.
So strike when you want inside Iran.
Make sure to speak to the Jordanians.
Make sure to speak with the Saudis.
Make sure to speak with the Iranian opposition.
There are so many forces around that are really forming an alliance with Israel and of course
with your good friends in the United States.
But the safety of Israel is really now, it's the safety of the Middle East.
And when he takes action inside Iran, after he informs his partners in the region and
the Persian dissidents, does he take out military targets or does he take out targets that will
allow the Persian people to take over their country?
That very smart professor, he concentrates on the Pazdaran, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.
Forget the oil, forget everything else, because when those institutions are down, the Iranian people will take over.
So facilitate the people of Persia taking back their country.
Absolutely.
And then the region can be safe.
The region will be safe.
There will be a greater agreement on peace in the region.
Well, once President Trump is back in the White House.
Of course, of course.
It's only seven months.
Oh my gosh, what a wonderful world that would be.
I hope our friends, I know we have friends, I hope our friends in Israel are listening.
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With the Jew haters inside America, who are calling for the destruction of not only our best friend in the Middle East, but are calling death to America on the streets of Michigan and New York.
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And this is why Imam Khomeini, who declared the International Day of Quds,
this is why he would say to pour all of your chants and all of your shouts upon the head of America.
I love the America! I love the America! I love the America!
That isn't Gaza, the West Bank, that isn't even Islamabad.
Those chants in Arabic, death to America, Being yelled by American citizens here in the United States just a few days ago in Michigan.
How did we arrive here?
What has happened to the Democrat Party?
And do we have jihadism rampant on U.S.
territory?
No better guest to ask than a man who is a good friend of the show, a patriot, a man who understands The permanent connection between Israel and America.
My friend, the president of the Zionist Organization of America, Mort Klein.
Welcome to America First.
It's great to be with one of the great patriots of America.
Thank God for people like you.
We need hundreds like you.
Well that's too kind, that's too kind.
You're in DC for a meeting at the Heritage Foundation on these issues.
Let's start with just your reaction.
Are you surprised to see videos like that of Americans in America calling for the destruction of the United States more?
When you have Iran repeatedly proclaiming death to Israel and death to America, Israel's the little Satan, America's the big Satan, we have to understand, so I understand we all have to understand, this is an Islamist war against not only Israel and the Jews, but against the West and Christians and non-Muslims.
But people refuse to see that.
You know, Winston Churchill had a great phrase.
He said, one must look at the facts because the facts are looking at you.
In other words, whether you would look at the truth of these issues, they're there.
Whether you look or not.
So we better face the truth.
No, I'm not surprised that this has happened, because this has been their theme all along.
The Palestinian Authority, of Hamas, of Iran, of the radical Islamic world, this hatred of the West
is even greater than the hatred of Israel.
Thing is, Israel is right in their midst, so they're on the front lines.
But after Israel comes America.
In fact, Mohammed al-Zahar, the co-founder of Hamas, Two months ago on the internet said, I want everyone to
understand.
First, we're going to kill all of the Jews.
But next, we're going to kill all of the despicable Christians and the non-Muslims.
And we will establish a caliphate and Islamicize the entire world.
That was two months ago.
The co-founder of Hamas.
Why is that not on the front page of every newspaper?
We refuse to accept that truth.
It is too ugly and painful.
And so we ignore it at our peril.
I understand the threat posed by Iran since 1979, their funding of proxies like Hamas and Hezbollah, their assaults on Israel, their attacks against U.S.
forces in the region.
But I'm specifically interested in your reaction to this chant being shouted in the open in America by Americans.
How did we get here, Maul?
Because it's one thing if it's happening on the West Bank, but this is in Michigan.
But these are Muslims in Michigan who agrees with the Islamist theme that we need to Islamicize the world, establish a caliphate, an Islamic rule over the entire world.
And I'm very, very worried that we have hundreds of thousands of radical Muslims who have come into America in the last few years And so they are now feeling even stronger than before.
They never had radical Muslims in Congress.
Now we do, like Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar, who are not patriots, who are hostile to Israel and America.
And when Rashida Tlaib was asked, what do you have to say about these people in your district calling death to America?
She said, I'm not talking to you.
Well, that's a perfect, perfect introduction.
We actually have that clip from Rashida Tlaib, who was incapable of rejecting, of denouncing the atrocity, the loss of life, of innocence, October the 7th, and just a few days ago, this occurred.
Congresswoman Tlaib... I don't talk to Fox News!
I don't talk to Fox News!
At a rally in your district, people were chanting, Death to America!
Do you condemn... I do not talk to Fox News!
But do you condemn chants of Death to America?
I don't talk to people that use racist tropes.
Why can't you just say whether or not you condemn people chanting death to America?
Why are you afraid to talk to Fox?
Fox News is not, not, listen, using racist tropes towards my community is what Fox News is about, and I don't talk to Fox News.
Is death to America racist?
I don't talk to Fox News.
Is chanting death to America racist?
I'm talking about your guys' racist tropes.
You know, you guys are, you guys know exactly what you do.
I know you're Islamophobic, but you guys gotta go deal with it on your own selves.
You're not gonna use me.
So asking an elected member of Congress to reject calls for death to America is a racist trope, apparently.
What happened to this party?
What happened to the Democrats?
Well, first, I want to say, I assure you, if MSNBC or CNN, if they had asked her the same question, she would have avoided it.
She wouldn't answer that because she's She's an anti-patriot.
She's hostile.
Here's a United States congresswoman getting paid with taxpayers' dollars, having a pension sitting there, waiting for it with American taxpayers' dollars, and she won't condemn someone who says, destroy America?
Why is the Democratic Party not immediately condemning her, censoring her, and making a move to throw her out of the U.S.
government?
No one who will not condemn that vicious, ugly phrase should be allowed to be in the United States government as a congressperson.
So, and this has been going on for many years.
Her party has refused to publicly condemn in any significant way Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib.
They should be thrown out of every committee.
The president, and especially people like Chuck Schumer and Pelosi, Democrats should be condemning these people in their own party and moving to throw them out of every single committee.
But they haven't done it.
By not doing it, it sends a message to them and others that it's not so terrible what they're saying.
My wise Orthodox Jewish friend, I'm sure you know him, Jeff Balaban, once educated me that the connection between Israel and America is that Israel is the greatest nation created by God, And America is the greatest nation created by man.
This, you know, incapacity to condemn cause for death to America is also linked, is it not, to her behavior, for example, as soon as she moved into Congress.
On the map of the Middle East in her office, she placed a post-it note over Israel, obliterating it, and writing instead, Palestine.
These things are connected, are they not, Maude?
The hatred of Israel and America.
Israel is a Western outpost of American values in the Middle East.
So they hate Israel and they hate Jews, of course, first, Christians second.
So the hatred of... If Israel didn't exist, they would still be hating America, still be hating the Western countries.
So this has nothing to do with Israel per se.
It has to do with our values, our system of government that they abhor.
And it is high time that the leaders of her party must publicly condemn her, strip her of every post, of every committee she's on.
And I've heard no condemnation.
Worse, I heard President Biden at a speech he gave only this past week, where people were screaming against Israel, you know, genocide and all these incredible lies.
What did Biden say to them?
Did he condemn them?
No.
He said, you have a point.
Imagine people saying Israel is committing genocide, and they say you have a point, when in fact, in a war caused by Hamas, Israel has killed the lowest number of civilians percentage-wise of any war in history, a few thousand civilians.
Every civilian shouldn't be killed, but this is a war.
And yet these people are saying genocide when Israel is dropping leaflets in neighborhoods telling Arabs to get out of their homes, out of their apartments before we hit bombs.
That's a hell of a way to commit genocide.
Let me say one other thing about genocide.
There were 150,000 Palestinian Arabs in 1948 in this area of Israel.
Today there are 2 million Palestinian Arabs.
It's gone from 150,000 to 2 million.
Whoever's in charge of Israel's genocide program must be fired immediately.
They're incompetent.
Yeah, growing massively is not what a genocide is.
I'll reverse genocide.
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You've discussed more the anti-Semitic, really America-hating members of Congress, the squad members, Rashida, we've got Ilhan Omar, AOC herself, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez is a proud supporter of the BDS movement, which for me is just a repackaging of anti-Semitism.
But your reaction to the President constantly saying that there needs to be a ceasefire, Israel needs to behave itself, and then saying that Bibi, a Jew, the elected Prime Minister, has to have a come-to-Jesus moment.
Could you talk about this President in contrast to the prior President, Donald Trump?
Well let me say, he also made that statement on a live mic to two Jews.
To Senator Bennett, a Jewish Senator from Colorado, and Anthony Blinken, a Jewish Secretary of State.
I didn't know that.
So he's saying this to two Jews.
It really shows you that he's not totally aware of his environment at all times.
Oh my gosh, that's incredible.
So talk to us about his behavior in the last six months since October the 7th.
I'm going to talk to you about his behavior since he became president of the United States, because people are now claiming, in my opinion, erroneously, that his hostility toward Israel now is due to getting the Michigan vote.
First of all, by making these hostile to Israel statements, he will lose Jewish votes and possibly Christian votes and other pro-Israel votes.
So it's not clear this is so wise even politically.
But moreover, he has been hostile to Israel since day one, before they were talking about an election.
Every appointment he's made of importance to Israel is somebody hostile to Israel.
Everyone.
Robert Malley, the liaison to Iran, a totally pro-Iran, pro-Hamas, anti-Israel guy.
Maher Bitar, National Security Council advisor, is a man who would have a, at Georgetown, would have a seminar ...called How to Demonize Israel, supporter of Students for Justice in Palestine, an anti-Israel group, and Hadi Amr, the main liaison from America to Israel, publicly said the terror war against Israel, the Intifada, inspires me and we must strongly support BDS.
And by way, even the most recent appointment, Jack Lew, the new ambassador to Israel, he was chief of staff to Obama, the worst president we ever had toward Israel.
Stop there for a second.
I'm intrigued.
Worse than Biden?
No.
Right now, this administration is worse than Obama.
Because of October 7th.
It's worse than Obama from day one.
From day one.
From day one, Biden, who claims he has Israel's back and that we have ironclad support, what has he been doing?
He has given Iran, the Islamic Republic of Iran, a vicious enemy of America and Israel, $26 billion.
And he's ignored and refused to invoke any of the sanctions.
By not invoking the sanctions, Iran has gone from $4 billion in reserves to $100 billion in reserves.
They've gone from being on their back economically, almost collapsing—that was the case under the previous administration—to now being strong, wealthy, able to arm Hamas, Hezbollah, and able to fund them.
So, if you care about Israel, if you care about America, Do you give Iran $26 billion and ignore sanctions?
This man is the worst.
Plus the Palestinian Authority, the previous administration said as long as the Palestinian Authority, Mahmoud Abbas, pays Arabs a lifetime pension to murder Jews, a lifetime pension, they spend $400 million a year paying people to murder Jews.
It's astonishing.
And so the previous administration said no more $800 million in funds from America until you stop this policy.
I mean the Trump administration.
The Trump administration, and now Biden, is giving them $800 million, ignoring the Taylor Force Act, which says you can't fund them, as long as he still has this policy, which he does.
U.N.
resolutions, one after the other, extremely hostile to Israel.
He refuses to veto them.
And two days after October 7th, where people praised his speech on the tarmac, where he said, I have your back, I'm a Zionist, people ignore something he said in his speech.
He said, we must immediately establish a Palestinian state.
That's what he said two days after the October 7th massacre.
A Palestinian state would be a terrorist state on Israel's longest border.
Which would be able to bring in heavy arms and threaten Israel in a serious way.
Israel gave all of Gaza away, and what did they get?
Hamas and 30,000 rockets?
You want to give them even more land so they have the ability to be even more dangerous to Israel and to American interests?
No, so my statement, I'm proclaiming that President Biden has been hostile to Israel since day one.
This is not about elections. This is not about Michigan.
It's about his own sinister motives, sinister issues toward Israel,
with, I believe, Obama in the background.
Why do I say Obama's clearly in the background?
Because almost everyone he's appointed that affects Israel is a friend of Obama's.
There's the proof.
Or worked for Obama.
Or worked for Obama, like Blinken worked for Obama.
So this is the proof.
This is Obama.
But Biden, by the way, has never been a friend of Israel.
In 1982, at a hearing with Menachem Begin, the Prime Minister of Israel in America, he threatened Menachem Begin, Biden did, that if you build any more in Judea and Samaria, our ancient homeland, as I say that as a Jew, as a Jewish American, I'm going to cut all aid.
And Biden dressed him down, Begin dressed him down.
Don't you threaten us.
We've been here for thousands of years and we will do what we have to do.
He has a track record.
He has always hated the state of Israel.
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You said this thing, this lie that Biden said on the tarmac, I'm a proud Zionist.
I know President Trump is.
I know I am.
It is used as a slur.
Will you explain what it means and what is the genesis of the word Zionism, please?
Because it's the name of your organization.
We are the oldest pro-Israel group founded in 1897 for one purpose, to reestablish the Jewish state of Israel, which was destroyed 2,000 years earlier.
You mean it wasn't created in 1948?
Mort!
That's what all the jihadis tell me!
That's right.
This was the second time around of a Jewish state.
For 2,000 years we were without one.
Although, the city of Jerusalem, since the first census in 1850, always had a majority population of Jews.
I have a book, a 1906 guide to Jerusalem.
It says there were 60,000 people in Jerusalem, 7,000 Christians, 13,000 Muslims, 40,000 Jews, 1906.
So yes, this is the reestablishment of the state of Israel.
It's a miracle of miracles that God must exist.
When you have six established Arab countries invading Israel in 48 to destroy it and Israel survives, it's a miracle.
Let me tell you another miracle about God.
99% of 350 missiles that were launched to Israel were eliminated by the Iron Dome.
Even a great high-tech of the Iron Dome doesn't do 99%.
I believe this is a... God's Dome!
I believe that God was involved in this, because it makes no sense.
And nobody was killed.
Not a single person was killed.
One Druze girl, unfortunately, was injured seriously, but nobody was killed.
And some of these missiles did land, created huge holes in the ground.
It can destroy an entire city block, and yet it landed in an empty field.
To me, Only God is the explanation of that.
The coincidence is too extraordinary.
And you would agree that there is this seminal connection between Israel and America that was understood by our founding fathers?
I say that in my speeches.
John Adams said we need a Jewish state.
Theodore Roosevelt.
Many, many other presidents said we need a Jewish state.
Harry Truman gave the decisive vote establishing the Jewish state, and his White House Chief of Staff kept pressuring him to vote to support Israel's reestablishment by quoting from Deuteronomy that this land was given to the Jews by God Almighty.
So, we have a long history of American presidents supporting Israel's re-establishment.
Let me tell you something most of your listeners don't know.
There was a big fight as to what the emblem should be, the seal should be of America.
Ultimately, the seal was the eagle with the wings outstretched, but barely voted down proposed by Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson
was a seal of Moses splitting the sea and having the Egyptian military and the Pharaoh
being drowned in the split sea with the Israelis, the Hebrews at that time, cheering on in the background.
Jefferson and Franklin wanted this to be the seal of America.
There was a vote, it barely lost. That tells you something about the history
of the allegiance and support toward the Jewish state and the Jewish people
of our founding fathers.
Absolutely fascinating.
See, this is why we have these guests, because we learn something.
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Caused a lot of news across the world, even the Daily Mail wrote about it.
Not for any of the things that I thought were really exciting and news-breaking, but because of this comment that I think is just a pure statement of fact.
Play tape.
Why is it, seemingly, that this administration, including Chuck Schumer in the Senate, so hate the man that Israel chose as their Prime Minister?
Why do the Democrats hate Bibi Netanyahu?
I actually think they hate Israel.
Yes.
I don't think they hate him.
I think they hate Israel.
And the Democrat Party hates Israel.
And the Democrat Party, if you remember when many Israeli representatives, including Netanyahu, When they came to the country trying, begging, begging, at that time, President Obama, please don't make the Iran nuclear deal, which is a disaster, and was a disaster.
And I ended it, but unfortunately, they didn't do anything with the ending of it.
I ended it, and would have had a new deal made with Iran, it would have been good for everybody, and there would have been no nuclear weapons.
You know, they're very close to getting a nuclear weapon right now.
And once they have that, it becomes a different form of negotiation, a much more difficult negotiation.
But I really believe they hate Israel, and they also see a lot of votes.
Don't forget, when you see those Palestinian marches, even I, I'm amazed at how many people are in those marches.
And guys like Schumer see that, And to him it's votes.
I think it's votes more than anything else.
Because he was always pro-Israel.
He's very anti-Israel now.
Any Jewish person that votes for Democrats...
I think that's a statement of fact.
If you're a Jew in America and you vote for the Democrats, you're voting for an anti-Jewish party, and you must be against Israel.
President Trump was smeared with the dual loyalty canard, which is the opposite of what he said.
He didn't say American Jews are loyal to both Israel and America.
He said the opposite.
So, what is the truth about voting for Joe Biden if you're a Jew in America?
Should you think twice about that?
And also, please explain this to me, because I'm fascinated.
The Orthodox community, more than 90 percent, support President Trump.
So, there seems to be a dichotomy between the Orthodox and the secular Jews.
Well, polls have shown, when you ask Jewish people the question, is Israel important to you?
Among the Reform Jews, which are the least religious of the three major movements, 22% say yes.
Conservative Jews, they're not quite as left-wing as Reform, 45% say yes.
Among the Orthodox, over 90% say yes, Israel's important to me.
Because the more observant you are, the more you believe in the Bible, In which in several places it says how God gave this land to the Jews.
So if you're a religious Jew, you believe in the Bible much more than non-religious Jews.
And that's why you support Israel very strongly.
And you support any party or any politician who supports Israel.
Because Israel is more important to you.
Because it's a biblical edict.
That this is Jewish land given to us.
And that's why, by the way, Evangelical Christians, the religious Christians, they believe in the Bible.
That's why they support Israel so much, because they believe in the Bible.
So, religious Evangelical Christians are more supportive of Israel than Reform Jews and Secular Jews, which is a remarkable statement.
But no, look, I'm a non-profit of 5.1.C.3.
I cannot You're not advocating politically, but I'm just asking this strange phenomena that, you know, we have this seeming inability to understand what one party represents today with the likes of Ilhan Omar and AOC amongst them.
Let's talk about history.
Let's talk about politics.
How significant is it that my former boss, after 23 years of broken promises,
from Clinton through Obama through Bush, he's the one who actually moved the embassy and recognized
Jerusalem.
How significant was that for the people of Israel?
That was not only powerfully significant and sent a tremendous message
of support for the Jewish people and Jewish state, but we saw the people that Trump appointed
to important posts affecting Israel.
They were all extremely extraordinary pro-Israel, such as Jason Greenblatt and David Friedman and others.
You're the famously anti-Semitic president who's appointing Friedman, Greenblatt and Jarrett to these key positions.
He was being told that by members of his cabinet, who said, don't move it because you will ignite World War III.
breaking it all over, and the passing of peace will end, as if it was there before.
In fact, he said to me himself that he was getting call after call from the leaders of
countries saying, don't move it.
What?
He was being told that by members of his cabinet, who said, don't move it because you will ignite
World War III.
Nothing happened, and now we have war in the Middle East.
That is right.
What he did was the right thing.
You know, that law to move the embassy was passed 18 years ago, and the two key people, Deserve Credit Senator John Kyle, that people have forgotten about from Arizona, and Newt Gingrich were the two key people.
It would pass 93 to 5 in the Senate, 437 to 35 in the House, overwhelmingly.
And Bill Clinton did not want it to be moved.
Obama didn't.
Bush didn't move it.
But he couldn't veto it because it was 95% approved.
So what he did is he ignored it.
If you don't sign a bill in 30 days, it automatically becomes law without a president's signature.
So Clinton was against this.
Outrageous.
Outrageous.
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Mort, we only have two minutes left.
I should have started with this, but can you be explicit and explain?
We're kind of inured to violence in the Middle East, to people wanting to destroy Israel because they've been trying so long, but October the 7th is different.
I call this the slaughter of the innocents.
Can you put what happened on October 7th into the correct context for all of our listeners and viewers?
Not only was this Hamas terrorists, 3,500 of them, people don't realize this was an invasion of 3,500 terrorists, but it was not only Hamas terrorists, many Gaza Arab civilians joined in to murder rape and mutilate their former employers.
Many of these Arabs who came in to murder the Jews in southern Israel worked for these places.
That's how they knew where everything was.
The people who worked for these Jews in southern Israel laid out the maps where everything was,
who had dogs, who had guns, so they knew everything.
And by the way, the people in southern Israel, these were kibbutzim, communities
of extremely left-wing Jews who wanted to give land away and set up a state and do everything for the Arabs.
They drove them to hospitals and helped them in every way.
It didn't matter because it's Jew hatred.
It's not about certain policies.
It's not about land.
It's a religious... It's not about politics.
It's about Jew hatred.
It's a religious war against the Jews and against the Christians.
And what happened because of this?
So many left-wing Israelis and Jews in America now realize, my God, they really do want to kill all of us.
We can't appease them.
And there's something people don't know.
Israel has offered them a state four times in the last 20 years.
It's been turned down every time because Abbas has said, I won't sign an agreement for a state with a clause that says, I have to say I accept Israel as a Jewish state.
I won't do it.
So they've been offered a state.
They don't want a state.
And by the way, they've been offered a state eight times in the last 80 years.
The Appeal Commission in 1937 offered them a state on 95% of the land, 5% for the Jews, and they said absolutely not.
So the issue is not land, it's not statehood, it's Israel's existence, and it's America's existence, and the West's existence.
And that is what the problem is.
And I'll say one more thing.
The leading seminary on Islam in the world is in Cairo, the most important seminary.
On October 19th, the imam of that seminary, which is the pope of the Muslim world, said publicly, it is a religious edict for you to go out and kill Jews in Israel.
Can you imagine a religious man saying it's a duty of you to go out and kill Jews?
October 19th, he issued this.
It was in no American newspaper.
We protect radical Muslims.
It's high time we tell the truth about radical Muslims.
It is a war between civilization and barbary, a war between those who are members of the Judeo-Christian civilization, the greatest civilization on earth, and those who wish to destroy it.
We've been talking to Mort Klein, president of the Zionist Organization of America.
If you understand that fact, you should be a Zionist too.
Check out the website zoa.org and follow Mort at mortonacline7.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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