Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Biden illegal takes another innocent life
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Four years ago, I told you that if crooked Joe Biden got to the White House, our borders
would be abolished, our middle class would be decimated, and our communities would be
plagued by bloodshed, chaos, and violent crime.
Bye.
We were right about everything.
So believe me when I offer you another warning, and we've been right about so much, just about everything.
If crooked Joe Biden and his thugs win in 2024, the worst is yet to come.
Our country will go and sink to levels that were unimaginable.
And just think about it.
With four more years of Biden, the hordes of illegal aliens stampeding across our borders will exceed 40 to 50 million people.
Medicare, Social Security, health care, and public education will buckle And collapse.
It will collapse.
As sure as you're sitting or standing there, it will collapse.
Our economy will be starved of energy by Crooked Joe's vindictive Green New Scam.
It's a Green New Scam.
It's a sobering warning from the President.
That was his CPAC speech.
If you thought the last three years were bad, imagine four more of them.
We were there, listening with Jeff, with Eric.
I told the president afterwards that it's the best speech he's given at CPAC, one of many speeches he's given there, and maybe one of the best he's ever delivered.
He went off the teleprompter after about 20 minutes and then spoke extemporaneously for more than an hour.
It was funny, it was heartwarming, and it was also very sobering.
Perhaps the most important line for me, given my family background.
Well, I think you can guess, if you watched the video, which moment resonated the most.
For me, it was this one.
Cut 4.
Play cut.
I stand before you today not only as your past and hopefully future president, but as a proud political dissident.
I am a dissident.
Remember this, I've been indicted more than Alphonse Capone, Mr. President.
Do you know who that is?
He's pointing to the president of Argentina, Javier Millet, who was in the audience.
He spoke after President Trump.
I am your dissident candidate.
He is.
Just like my father, a man who escaped from a communist prison.
They're using the tools of the state against him.
He's facing 730 years in prison.
Why?
Because if the election were today, he'd beat the incumbent, Joe Biden.
But as he said so many times before... Oh, greetings.
You're listening to America First, and I'm Sebastian Gawker.
It's not just about him.
It's about all of us.
Eric, will you start cycling through the images of Lake and Riley, please?
Lake and Riley...
was a beautiful 22-year-old American.
She was a nursing student in Atlanta, Georgia, and she went for a jog and was just murdered.
The mainstream media We'll not tell you who murdered her or rather where he came from and how he was here.
The Washington Post said that he's just a resident of Athens, Georgia.
No, he's not.
Her murderer, Jose Ibarra, is an illegal immigrant who arrived here through Biden's open borders in 2022.
He was arrested in New York for endangering a minor.
You know what that means, right?
Endangering a minor.
And in Kathy Hochul's, in Eric Adams' New York, he was released for endangering a minor.
Here's the story written up by Eric for American Greatness based upon the reporting from Justin News.
Please listen to this story and then Ask yourself how enraged you are, and whether you're enraged enough.
As I'm reading, Eric, please cycle through her photographs.
Not his, but hers.
On Sunday, the U.S.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency confirmed that a man suspected of murdering an American college student is a legal alien from Venezuela.
A man who had previously been apprehended after crossing the border, but was released due to the Biden administration's open border policies.
According to Justin News, the suspect's name is Jose Ibarra and he is 26 years old.
He had been arrested in September of 2022 by U.S.
Customs and Border Protection, but was subsequently, quote, paroled and released for further processing.
He was arrested One year later, in September of 2023, and charged with a motor vehicle license violation, as well as in a manner acting to injure a child under the age of 17.
But before a federal detainer could be issued, or rather implemented, José Ibarra was released by New York City authorities, the same authorities under Alvin Bragg, who are trying to put President Trump in prison.
And they did so because of New York City's sanctuary status.
Ibarra's most recent arrest follows the murder of 22-year-old Lakin Riley, a nursing student who was found dead on the University of Georgia's campus in Athens on Friday.
Ibarra is the prime suspect in her murder, which occurred while she was out for a jog.
The murder has drawn widespread backlash and renewed criticism of Biden's open border policies, with many Republicans pointing out that Riley would still be alive if the border had been enforced.
The Associated Press has also faced backlash and mockery after its article on
the story claimed that the real danger as a result of Riley's murder was quote the dangers female
runners face when going on solo activities it's not the fact that at least eight million illegals have
been let into this country under the biden administration and they are doing whatever
they wish to do in america and are basically immune
If they beat up cops on camera in New York, they are released four hours later without bail.
If they endanger a child in New York, they're likewise released.
That's why she's dead.
And the blood of that woman, put her picture up on the screen again.
The blood of Lakin Riley is drenched on the hands of Joe Biden and Alejandro Mayorkas and the whole stinking Democrat Party.
Anyone who says we should not have borders is responsible for the death of that beautiful young woman.
How dare you say it's because she jogged by herself?
It's because we have no borders and illegals have more rights than Americans.
If you're not angry and fuming to the core of your existence, it's not that you're not a patriot.
You're not a human being and her life means nothing to you.
That girl will never be walked down the aisle by her father.
She will never make a family.
She will never see love.
With a husband she will never know the love of a child she bore.
Because of Joe Biden and every Democrat who voted for him.
You can all go to hell and we will stop you!
I'm Sebastian Gorka, this is America First.
Bye.
Put up the podcast.
Subscribe if you want to.
But I don't give a damn.
Get busy.
Save America.
Get politically active.
before another Laken Riley is murdered.
Alright.
Peace.
Oh, you wanna do the Casio cuts?
Oh yeah, definitely, hang on.
Three and a half minutes.
The ice cream one when you find it then five what are the ones that he's already posted on Instagram?
Um, right.
Revenge... Judgment Day... Okay, um... Three... Five... And six.
Hang on, let me call Kangaroo.
He's saying he's online.
For Kanger I have Pope and President, dupes, double Karl Marx.
Good, just put them all up the second I talk about his books.
Okay.
And you've got to put the books up fast, Guy, because I read the titles from the screen.
When I say author of, just pop it straight up.
Copy that, sir.
Post that, Eric, as... Yes.
Biden, um, um... Something like her blood is on all their hands or something like that, maybe?
Um... Lake and Riley's blood is on Biden's hands.
What happened to the liberal caller?
Says they held for like 10 seconds.
Is Kengo not replying?
He just did now, he said just give him a minute, he's logging on.
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Alright.
Alright, he's having issues with Skype, so we're gonna send him a Zoom link real fast.
Good, yeah, that's not a problem.
I've got to do the reads anyway.
What did the Lib want?
I don't know.
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There's a line from the president that is the most important for me personally.
I want to play it again to introduce our next guest.
This was President Trump in front of the biggest conservative gathering in the world on Saturday.
Cut.
Four.
I stand before you today not only as your past and hopefully future president, But as a proud political dissident, I am a dissident.
Remember this?
I've been indicted more than Alphonse Capone, Mr. President.
Do you know who that is?
I know who else that resonated with.
He is the author of a whole library of books, including A Pope and the President, Dupes, How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century, and The Devil and Karl Marx.
Most recently, Professor Paul Kengor, editor of The American Spectator.
Happy Monday!
Happy Monday, Gorka Man, the lean, mean fighting machine.
All right, we're going to get you to record the liner.
That is superb.
Thank you, Professor Cage.
You know, it sounds like two superheroes, Gorka and Kengor.
Gorka and Kengor.
I like that.
Yes.
Two syllables each.
Tag team, steel cage match, tag team.
Tag team.
I love it.
All right.
Shall we do something serious or just have fun, Paul?
I don't know.
I don't know.
We joke about that.
That sounds like more fun.
It's fun.
We can have fun as well as be substantive.
So, Saturday I posted the whole speech.
Everybody has to watch it.
It was just a tour de force.
He got off the teleprompter about 20 minutes in and then just told stories and they were hilarious.
But then he used two phrases.
Dissident.
He called himself a dissident.
And then he called America a captive nation.
Why are those two phrases so incredibly important, Professor Kengor?
Yeah, it's really, really striking.
I mean, I am a political dissident.
I mean, that was an amazing statement to make.
I got to tell you that that is, it's very clever, Seb, and it's really going to resonate with people.
And I mean, I think you and I were talking early last fall We weren't sure if he was going to run again.
And then he started, you know, all these indictments took place.
I mean, what was the first one?
The guy in New York?
Yeah.
Alvin Bragg.
Alvin Bragg.
Yeah, exactly.
And that, that really started it.
And all that, all of this did rather than chasing him away.
In fact, speaking of steel cage match, right?
This guy really is a fighter.
He really is.
And when you punch him in the mouth, he doesn't, he doesn't fall down and curl up in the fetal position.
He wants to fight back.
And so all of those attacks really did make him a kind of a political dissident in a way, and it's energized him and it's brought people to his side.
The left must realize by now that this ongoing series of attacks has only helped him.
And the line with Al Capone, it's probably actually true, right?
I bet the only difference would be they eventually put Al Capone in jail and they haven't succeeded in putting Trump in jail yet.
Right, but Al Capone did not face 730 years in prison and they weren't trumped up charges.
He did kill people and they got him on tax evasion but he didn't face 730 years on trumped up charges.
Nor a 400 million dollar fine, right?
Yeah.
I mean, that's absolutely just shocking.
And also that other line, I mean, yeah.
Explain, because some people who are maybe younger than us or who aren't experts or who experienced the Cold War viscerally, explain why the phrase captive nation is so significant, Professor.
It's beautiful.
It started in the 1950s with President Eisenhower.
And it was a way of describing the countries behind the Soviet bloc.
And in fact, Nikita Khrushchev, when he first met with Richard Nixon, started screaming at Nixon.
At that point, he was vice president, Ike's vice president in the 1950s.
And he said, this resolution stinks!
And he meant the captive nations resolution.
He said, it stinks like steaming and horse manure.
But who were, explain, who were the captive nations?
Basically, pretty much all the countries in the Warsaw Pact under the jackboot of the Soviet Union.
So that would be your father's home country of Hungary, Poland, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, Albania, Bulgaria.
I'm missing a couple.
And then in the 1980s, after a couple of decades of detente, where our presidents, including President Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter said, Well, we shouldn't be using that kind of language about the Soviets.
It's only going to anger them.
Well, Reagan in the 1980s said, no, we're bringing it back.
And so Reagan started honoring every year, Captive Nations Week, Captive Nations Day, just to remind people that, yeah, the Cold War was still going on, and these countries were captive.
to a repressive regime in the Soviet Union.
And maybe right there, that's what Trump's relating to, right?
He feels almost captive to what he feels is a repressive regime kind of deep state in Washington and elsewhere that continues to go after him and tries to hold him captive and tries to throw him in jail.
But what he was saying at CPAC is they're not going to succeed.
And how significant is it that after the Tucker interview, just two days later, President Trump posts on Truth Social this tweet where he says, I can relate to, you know, what happened to Alexei Navalny because we have police state tactics here in America.
Yeah, and that's exactly what he's tapping into, because the death of Nalvani was just, what, a week or two ago?
Yeah.
And about the time that Trump was saying that at CPAC, I was reading the piece in The Guardian by Alexei Nalvani's widow talking about, she called Putin flat-out demonic, right?
Said that the fact that he wouldn't even, Putin won't even release the corpse of her husband, right?
They just want to bury him right there in the polar wolf penal colony at the edge of the Arctic Circle in Siberia.
So for Trump to use that kind of language, and I'll tell you another group that it's helping with, with Seb, my good friend, Kyren Skinner, who's a professor at Pepperdine, who you worked with in the Trump administration.
She's a famous, really well-known black conservative and Reagan scholar.
And she told me, she said, watch out.
She said, Trump is going to do really well among the black vote.
Yeah.
And it's going to shock people how well he's going to do.
She told me this four or five months ago.
Yeah, it's 26% at the moment, and I think that doesn't cover a lot of people who wouldn't admit it to a pollster.
26, that breaks the back of the Democrats' stronghold on the black population.
Let's hold our thoughts for the next segment.
In the meantime, check out spectator.org, spectator.org.
Also the books The Devil and Bella Dodd, The Devil and Karl Marx, Dupes.
And the politically incorrect guide to communism.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First.
We'll be back with the editor-in-chief of The Spectator, Professor Paul Kengor.
stay on this channel.
In fact, maybe, maybe a good thing for you to pick up is Ronald Reagan never got more than like 14% of the black vote.
Even Reagan.
Wow.
Even Reagan.
Wow.
Let's talk about that.
In fact, I can give these numbers.
At 84, when he won 49 out of 50 states, he got less than 10% of the black vote.
So if Donald Trump gets 26% of the black vote, I mean, this is, this is over.
I mean, that would be astonishing really.
But yeah, that was fascinating.
The whole political dissident.
I wonder who came up with that for him.
Maybe he did on his own.
I know who wrote it.
It was his speechwriter from the White House.
He's Newt Gingrich's former speechwriter.
Yes, who's an expert on Poland.
I don't know about that.
He's just a bloody good speechwriter.
I sent an article for you, Eric.
He and his colleague were the two key speechwriters.
And then, of course, a lot of the key speeches are also shaped by Stephen Miller.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
Who's very good with words.
He's a wordsmith.
He's very good at coming up with catchphrases.
Yep.
Yep.
And that's a talent.
And that's what Reagan had, too.
Reagan and his speech.
I mean, you can write a whole long, great, eloquent speech, but you need a phrase like evil empire.
Yes.
Which the State Department will try to remove seven times from your speech before you get to deliver it.
That's exactly right.
Exactly right.
Insanity.
Insanity.
The only reason we remember the speech is for that line.
The only reason we remember the Brandenburg Gate speech in June 1987 is for tear down this wall.
Exactly.
Otherwise, great speech, but not distinctive, not memorable.
No.
Play cut five.
Five.
He makes a two-minute speech because that's about the only, they couldn't get any more fuel than that.
Okay.
Whatever happened to the cocaine they found at the White House?
Where is it?
And by the way, I have to say, because I have such respect for this audience and CPAC, I would have never spoken and I never did about him because of my respect for the office of the president.
I have great respect for that office.
But once I got indicted the first time, remember that?
I got indicted and I got impeached twice.
We won that.
And we'll win all of this stuff.
But once I got indicted, I said, well, now the gloves have to come off.
Alright, I'm gonna tee that up, then I'm gonna go cruise, then I'm gonna go to pool.
Alright.
Do you have the politically incorrect guide?
Is that up there?
Uh, I don't.
I don't, what's, hang on let me find that one.
Yeah, I believe Bella Dot is the most recent one.
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It was serious, but also it was funny.
Here's President Trump talking about the current incumbent in the White House.
Play cuts.
He makes a two-minute speech because that's about the only... they couldn't get any more fuel than that.
Whatever happened to the cocaine they found in the White House?
Where is it?
And by the way, I have to say, because I have such respect for this audience and CPAC, I would have never spoken, and I never did, about him because of my respect for the office of the president.
I have great respect for that office.
But once I got indicted the first time, remember that?
I got indicted and I got impeached twice.
We won that.
And we'll win all of this stuff.
But once I got indicted, I said, well, now the gloves have to come off.
Now the gloves have to come off.
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similarities in delivery of President Trump and President Reagan because
you're such an expert on Reagan but let's start for a second with the media
the president, this is stunning and I don't think anybody's apologized, the
president mentions his wife and then sees Mercedes schlapp in the front row
and says hi Mercedes and then the mainstream media says he's senile he
thinks his wife is called a Mercedes they didn't even check for 30 seconds
who's Mercedes could it be another person in in the room is do you have
senses of deja vu given how the mainstream media treated Reagan as well
is President Trump.
Oh yeah, and they're showing their profound ignorance.
I mean, if they would maybe watch something other than MSNBC and CNN, if they would tune into Fox once in a while, they would know that Mercedes Schlapp is Matt Schlapp's wife.
And a host on Newsmax.
She's one of the hosts with my friend Chris Plant.
And the other parallel is the injection of humor.
President Trump went off teleprompter for more than an hour.
He told stories about negotiating with the Mexicans, about landing in Baghdad with no lights on the aircraft.
And people were just cracking up.
He's talking about being a dissident one moment and then making the crowd roar with laughter.
Isn't that Reagan-esque as well?
Well, it is, and also contrast that with Joe Biden, who was talking to dead people three weeks ago, right?
He had just got done meeting with Francois Mitterrand, had just got done meeting with the Chancellor of Germany, who was at Helmut Kohl, I think, right?
Yeah, who left office in 1998, I believe, and died not that much longer after that.
What was that movie, The Sixth Sense, where the little kid says, I talk to dead people?
I see, I see dead people.
I see dead people.
So at least, you know, in that case, Donald Trump saw a live person in the front row and knew her name, right?
And by the way, watching that, especially not just hearing it, people that hear it on the radio, but when you watch it live, Trump is really calm and composed.
I don't know about you, Paul, and I don't think I could be cracking jokes and calm and composed when the state wants me in prison for 730 years.
Right, right.
And I can see a meme or something being developed now after this of that Georgia mugshot that the left wanted so badly.
Remember, they were salivating through that.
I can't wait to get this picture.
And so take that and then put under it, I am a political dissident, and put that out on posters and bumper stickers and t-shirts.
And that's going to be a rallying thing for Trump.
This is a whole new way for him to run as like the persecuted candidate.
This could be quite strong.
Eric, are we going to have to give Professor Kangor a cut of our next merchandise?
I mean, we put that mug shot on a mug as well in a t-shirt.
We didn't add the word dissident, but are we going to have to cut in my tag team partner, Eric?
What do you think?
I think that's a great idea.
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ADF.
Yes.
Play me the audio again.
Just my personal opinion, this is really the only model that truly works for this kind
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whoever, and they're not going to be able to do it.
So, I think it's a good idea to have a model that's not just a model, but a model that
is a model of what you're doing.
And I think that's a good way to go.
I think it's a good way to go.
And the cost of litigation, particularly for a case to go to the Supreme Court, which can take years and years, is astronomical.
So when people support us, what they're making possible is for these people to take the stand that they do, which ends up protecting all of us.
Okay, I'm going to tee that up very quickly at the top, to drop it, and then we'll go to calls.
Okay, title for Kangor and also for Arthur.
For Arthur, I wrote something down.
I thought it was most powerful when you said, does the right really want to win?
Yeah, good, alright.
And then... Also the institutions thing, that's a little... What?
Of the institutions, like, how did the right lose every institution?
What I think, do we want to win, is... No, actually, that's good.
How did the right lose every institution?
Okay.
And then for Paul... And then for Paul... Something about the dissident line?
Yeah, or, um... Or the... Reagan comparisons.
Trump, colon, more Reagan-esque than ever.
Reagan-esque than ever.
Uh, Cruz as well?
Uh, yes, Cruise as well.
Yeah, we'll do... ADF and Cruise.
ADF and Cruise.
That Tom Cruise line was so good, by the way.
I did not catch that.
Which one?
During the speech, when Trump was commenting about the military guys, he's like, they're all like, they're more good-looking than Tom Cruise, and they're taller, too.
I was like, why you gotta do my boy Tom dirty like that?
Actually, come in with 12, then I'll do ADF.
Come in with 12, then ADF, then cruise.
Alright.
Actually, no, I'll save that for Gates.
Save it?
Okay.
Never mind.
That's a good cut.
Too many shorter cuts here, other than the Cunningham-Nikki Haley thing.
Cut.
11.
30 seconds.
6.
Come in with 6.
Come in with 6 Donalds.
Alright.
Alright, seconds.
...
I believe Joe Biden is willing to shut down the government.
But will you?
What are you willing to do?
What are you willing to do?
But Congressman, what are you willing to do?
Let me be clear.
I'm willing to fund the government as long as our border is secure.
The first job of the government is to secure the border.
Any business that provides a service, if they don't give you the service, do you give them money?
The answer is no.
Kristen, you don't even do that.
So we have to be honest with the American people.
The government has a responsibility.
Our cities are overrun.
Our schools are overrun.
Our shelters are overrun.
And Joe Biden allows the disaster to continue.
Kristen, let me add this wrinkle.
There are young women who are sold into sex slavery by the drug cartels every single day.
Joe Biden allows it to occur.
That is un-American.
It is not humane.
Our border must be secured.
Period.
I like that guy.
Barron Donalds from Florida, telling the truth.
And Jeff, wasn't there like meant to be a government shutdown like a week ago?
Is it, we at it again?
I think so.
It's going to keep happening, keep happening.
Well, can we just actually make it happen this time?
Hey, it's better for me.
There's so much less traffic.
I loved it.
It's like COVID, no traffic and shutdown, no traffic.
Let's do it.
Okay.
We've got to talk about what Mr. G and Eric got up to.
With President Trump at CPAC.
No, truly, honestly.
We'll talk about it in the next segment.
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But first, I want to ask you a question.
When they come after, like, a cake baker, because he doesn't want to bake a cake for a homosexual marriage, How does he fight?
What does he do?
Does he have like a spare few million in his back pocket to take it all the way to the Supreme Court?
Well, of course not.
So does he just surrender?
Does he give in to the police state and sacrifice his values?
No.
This is what happens.
Just my personal opinion, this is really the only model that truly works for this kind of work, because the clients are your average everyday business owner, preacher, teacher, whoever, you know, not wealthy people.
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Hey, Sebastian.
Last week you ran a tape of Nikki Haley complaining that Trump wants to raise taxes 10% on working
families and you were flabbergasted at how stupid it was.
I'll explain it to you.
What he did is he suggested a 10% tariff on imports.
Now a tariff, because you know this, it's the easiest tax to avoid paying.
You simply don't buy imports.
And the purpose of a tariff... And you buy American.
Right.
The purpose of a tariff is not to raise tax revenue.
It's to decrease the trade deficit, because the trade deficit is the primary source of the national debt.
Every dollar you lose in trade deficit is a dollar you lose in tax revenue.
You're absolutely right.
You're absolutely right.
But she's lying, like she did when she said, I would never run against President Trump.
And she's running, even when she loses in her own state of South Carolina.
And I've got to say, I'm horrified.
Horrified at the Daily Mail.
This morning, they published an article saying, oh, 40% of Republicans won't vote for President Trump in the primary.
What do you mean, 40%?
You mean they voted for a candidate who literally sent them sample ballots?
Who's the they?
Democrats!
Nikki Haley's campaign, John, in South Carolina, because it's a free primary, collected votes from Democrats.
Why would she do that, John?
Well, because she can't get the votes that she needs from the Republicans, and the people who are funding her Yeah, how about they come here legally and not break the law the first time they enter U.S.
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how about they come here legally and not break the law the first time they enter
US territory Kevin North Carolina thank you John hey I'm very proud to be on
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I'm a vice chair of my local precinct, a former elected official, and I want to just put out there that coming up, we can't lose sight of this, the U.S.
Supreme Court has agreed to hear a question Yeah, we've discussed it here on the show.
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This show's flying by.
It is.
So much going on.
Not a quiet news weekend.
The weekend, yeah, that's the thing.
The weekend was nuts.
Not so, not so.
I wonder when the RNC is gonna have that election to replace McTang.
Oh, we didn't talk about RNC!
We could talk about that with Gates, maybe.
Yes.
Did, um... Has Hamid said anything?
Well, I mean, Trump's endorsed Michael Whateley, so I don't imagine... Oh, that's right, that's right, that's right.
He was at CPAC, apparently.
Right.
Call them out.
Oh, he did it during the speech.
Yeah.
He said, you know, who is the guy who walked back?
With us the blonde guy.
Oh Was that a senator who was that Jeff?
When when we went back to carry remember Was there somebody else who kind of disappeared older guy?
No, her husband was there.
Oh, yeah, but he had a beard I'm maybe I'm thinking before it.
Okay.
I don't remember anyone else besides carrying the schlapps.
Oh And the 300 Secret Service guys.
So many of them.
Did you see the photograph Skavina posted of him with all the Secret Service dudes?
I did not see that.
That was epic.
Actually, I gotta... I think that was in South Carolina, though.
Because they were SLED officers.
Oh, they were!
That's right!
Yeah.
Right.
Alright, 30 seconds.
Any cuts you want to use here?
No.
No.
Alright.
Hmm.
Thanks for watching!
you The End.
Knee deep in the swamp.
First place in your hearts.
America First with Dr. G.
I'd like something that happened on Saturday to be told.
Not by me, but by my team.
Eric might get a little bit excited, so I think Mr. G should tell the story.
Mr. G, how did you like the President's speech at CPAC on Saturday?
It was fantastic, as I said.
More off teleprompter.
Yeah, it was like 20 minutes on teleprompter and then like an hour off teleprompter.
And what made it especially special?
Where were you watching it?
Um, very close.
Fourth row.
Fourth row?
Yes.
Who was sitting next to you?
That would be Eric.
Very excited Eric.
Was he like hovering over the chair at like four inches?
The Rachel Maddow clip?
Yes, that would be the best way to describe it.
And what happened afterwards?
We went and checked out the kitchen.
Oh, right, because hotel kitchens are so exotic, right?
Yes, exactly.
And there were lots of... I just sent an image to Eric of lots of people with the president who took a photograph with the president.
What is that image, Eric?
Do you have that image?
Still kind of processing what happened.
Yeah, still working on it.
Show the other one first.
Do you have the other one of a much, much smaller group?
Who's... Oh my gosh!
That's Mr. G!
And Eric!
Where was that taken, Eric?
That was in the aforementioned kitchen, which was very fascinating.
In addition to that encounter, of course.
Now, Jeff, you've met the boss before.
How was he?
How did you find him?
Very good, like usual.
He's always the same.
And who was there with us?
It was lots of people, right?
No, it was us and Kerry Lake and the Schlapps.
But... The Schlapps?
And a lot of Secret Service.
But I'm confused.
Somebody on Twitter said that CPAC isn't really conservative and the President never talks to the schlaps anymore.
Well, maybe that was after the 15 minutes he talked to him after the speech.
Maybe since then he hasn't talked to the schlaps.
Because it was only you, me, Eric, Matt Schlapp, Mercedes, and Carrie Lake.
That was it.
Nobody else.
Correct?
That's it.
Yep.
Alright.
And then his team.
Do you have his team, Eric?
He had quite the security team.
This is Dan Scavino and the president surrounded by some very warrior-looking types.
I have never seen such a big detail.
You had a theory, Jeff.
It wasn't all Secret Service.
Who was it?
I think that's in South Carolina because it says SLED.
That's the South Carolina Police.
Right, so he left CPAC late on his way to South Carolina.
He had Secret Service, he had South Carolina SWAT as well.
It was quite, quite the evening.
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Our buddy Chris Coles is such a good guy.
He's somewhere on the other side of the planet.
And he sent me a clip of something.
I couldn't hear what the president was saying at CPAC because there was so much applause.
He's so kind.
He just sent it to me.
Let's have a listen.
I gotta get going.
So thank you everybody for being here.
We appreciate it very much.
We appreciate it very much.
Gorka, did I see the Gorka man?
Yes, stand up Gorka, quick, get up!
How good, how good is he, Sebastian?
Sep, they call him Sep, I call him Sebastian.
I think we've got a good new nickname and a new line of the Gawker Man.
Sounds like something out of a superhero comic.
However, that's just for me.
You know, I'm an only child.
I need something like that.
I love to hear it.
The most important cut of his more than an hour long speech, most of it extemporaneous, was however this cut for.
I stand before you today not only as your past and hopefully future president, But as a proud political dissident, I am a dissident.
Remember this, I've been indicted more than Alphonse Capone, Mr. President.
Do you know who that is?
He points at Javier Ramírez.
I am your dissident candidate.
That was at CPAC on Saturday.
One of the other rock stars at the biggest conservative convocation on the planet.
No surprise.
It was Matt Gaetz, Congressman from Florida, and he joins us today.
Congressman Gaetz, welcome back to America First.
Thanks so much for having me, Seb.
Good to be with you.
President Trump has been on a roll.
Electric performances in South Carolina, a big win in that contest, and also CPAC definitely brought the House down.
So I feel like we're on the ascendant movement right now, the America First wing of the Republican Party, and we've just got to continue running out those ground balls and doing the good work to get our candidates elected.
Well, he is on a roll.
Not just giving speeches, but he flew from better South Carolina, where he trounced Nikki Haley once more.
And then she gave some speech about how she's gonna keep on running.
I don't understand why.
Can you explain?
Do you have a theory?
What is this woman who said she would never run against President Trump?
She's lost every race against him.
What's going on, Congressman?
There's one theory of the case that she is pursuing opportunities in opposition media, and the longer she's willing to demonstrate her usefulness as a Democrat surrogate, as Gavin Newsom correctly identified her, the higher the ticket price can be for her to work at CNN or MSNBC.
The other alternative, I guess, is she has some sort of self-humiliation kink that she's playing out.
This is like the longest dead woman walking campaign one could possibly imagine.
She has not had a realistic chance to win a state at any point in this contest.
There's been no state she's ever been winning in, including her own.
And in the path ahead, I think, you know, Super Tuesday will be a great opportunity for President Trump to expand his delegate lead.
Even the states after Super Tuesday, I mean, there's not some bastion of Nikki Haley electors available to be won.
This is all for naught.
Yeah.
And I'm horrified and disgusted, really, at an outlet that I thought was better than that.
The Daily Mail had a headline this morning that 40% of Republicans in South Carolina hate President Trump, and that's why they voted for Nikki Haley.
But this is a candidate who actively sought the votes of Democrats and sent sample ballots in a Republican primary to Democrats.
And I tweeted about it.
I mean, this has to be the apotheosis, the epitome of a swamp creature, doesn't it?
Yeah, and it's their effort to try to cast a narrative that isn't true.
At the end of the day, the reality isn't what the media tries to self-circulate.
The reality is that we've got a movement in 2024 that I think is more durable, more diverse, more working class than even our movement in 2020 or 2016.
This has its own kind of flavor to it, and I really am encouraged by what I see.
And while I wish Nikki Haley would drop out so that we could focus all of our resources on the uh...
swing state what needed
there is some value to continuing to beat nickley mickey haley is a mark over
and over again but you know this version of republicanism emerges in
people like list cheney and people like john bolton
and people like jeb bush and the more it can be
summarily and publicly and thoroughly defeated
the more i i think it ingrained the america first culture into the
republican party President Trump's tenure and beyond.
And not only that, in the meantime she's also burning tens of millions of dollars of Never Trump money, or Democrat money, like Reid Hoffman and others.
Although I think the breaking news this morning was rather ironic.
that the Koch Foundation is ceasing spending money on the Nikki Haley campaign.
At least they have woken up.
Wow, that's why campaigns end, when they run out of money.
And if you've lost the Kochs in the Nikki Haley movement, I think the resources are going to dry up pretty quick.
You're done.
You're done.
We're going to talk about an event you're having with the President's son tomorrow.
Super exciting.
But first, I know our millions of listeners want to know, government shutdown.
My team here that has to live and work around the swamp, they want a government shutdown.
Can we have a government shutdown, please, Matt?
Look, I'm not a peer leader for government shutdowns, but if we don't shut down the border, then we have to utilize our leverage and not allow the remaining elements, despite administration, to continue.
I'm disappointed that there doesn't seem to be sufficient support among Republicans to really fight on the spending cuts we need, on the border policies that we must demand, and it feels like we're going to have yet another punt, yet another extension.
Of the spending of Joe Biden, the policy choices of Nancy Pelosi.
And, you know, it's just not good enough.
We have got to get better people into Congress in order to have a more fighting spirit.
And that's really the key window of time we're in right now.
Ohio, Texas, two big states having primary elections on March 5th.
We're sure rooting for J.R.
Majewski in Ohio, Brandon Gill in Texas.
And if the America First candidates make it through those primaries,
it really sets up the table nicely for the rest of the primary season,
and we'll be able to get more resources for the candidates who don't want to start more foreign
wars or let more illegal immigrants into the country
or continue spending in the absence of real demands.
But we have a one-seat majority right now, one two-seat majority,
and we don't have a sufficient fighting spirit to be able to get into or maintain a shutdown.
That's the sad truth.
But you think that the Speaker will acquiesce?
Mike Johnson will give in to Mitch McConnell?
Well, on some issues, I don't think he will.
I think he's been pretty firm on unpaid for foreign aid, you know, on some of these matters, which has been helpful.
But I think on the overall spending levels and funding of the government, we are more likely to see policies in line with the McConnell wing of the party than the Matt Gaetz wing of the party.
And that's deeply disappointing.
We're talking to Congressman Matt Gaetz from the 1st Congressional District in Florida.
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Tell us about what you're planning with Donald Trump Jr.
tomorrow.
Tomorrow in Pensacola, Florida, doors open at 6 p.m.
at the Paula Fox Wharf in downtown.
We are going to have a town hall meeting and we're going to be talking about some of these issues affecting America's economy, and we're partnering with Public Square, which is an app that allows people to connect to businesses that share their values, where If you're a conservative, you're going to be welcome and comfortable if you go and engage in commerce with businesses on their platform.
So they're going to talk a little bit about some of the policy issues that inform this new generation of e-commerce that we're entering into.
And Don Jr.
I are always really eager to just talk about what's going on right now with his family,
with the campaign, and with the government.
Real decision points that we're at on Ukraine, on Israel, on the border, and ensuring we
make the right decisions for the American people each and every time.
Right.
There's a Pensacola tomorrow night, 5pm, at the Palafox Wharf Waterfront Events Venue.
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I put wins in quotes.
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So what did happen to the cocaine in the White House?
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There's so much.
How about idiots setting themselves on fire?
Oh my gosh!
We didn't even touch that story!
Oh my gosh.
We've got the cut, right?
Where's the cut?
Yeah, we have it.
Um, where is it?
It's cut at 15.
15.
Okay, good.
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Yeah, we've got to talk.
Let's start with that.
Let's start with that.
Okay, good.
Alright.
Um, latest article?
What's the latest article?
Uh, the latest article is, God, I totally forget.
Oh yeah.
Will they let Trump take office?
Ooh.
Okay.
Um, will they let, is that the actual title?
Uh, it's close.
I don't remember my title.
All right.
I'm going to find it.
I'll send it to Eric.
Good one.
I'm going to write about the fire guy on Wednesday, and I'm going to write about vice president choices on Thursday.
Fun.
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So you want to use Cut15 here?
Well, I'll tee it up.
I'll tee it up.
Yeah, yeah.
First we'll do, uh, um... Patriot Mobile?
Patriot Mobile, yeah.
Yup.
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Did you have a good CPAC, Eric?
That was my third CPAC and the best one yet by far.
Alright, just hanging around in the green room with like Prime Ministers and Presidents and crazy authors from Town Hall.
It's good, isn't it?
It was the experience of a lifetime.
Even more so, again, even the last two.
Alright, so let me... I'll put the photograph up there again.
Because I want everybody to know out there what kind of a boss I am.
I look after my boys.
There's only five people who met the president after his speech, and two of them are Mr. G and Eric.
That's it.
Nobody else.
They were like billionaire donors.
Billionaire donors behind the curtain.
The Secret Service said, no, no, sorry, stay there.
He's got to go to South Carolina.
We look after our guys.
And I want to say thank you, because I was at the dinner, the Reagan dinner.
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He is our hardest working guest host, the one, the only, Colonel Kurt Schlichter. Welcome, buddy.
Boy, I think we define hardest working differently.
Tell the story, because I didn't know this story.
We're in the green room chatting with Eric and Jeff and your beautiful wife and you told the story of my boss Tom at Salem asking you to come on as a guest for Hugh Hewitt but it wasn't quite... it didn't work out that way did it?
It was Mike Gallagher at CPAC, the year of COVID.
He goes, hey, come on down and be, you know, come on and be a guest.
I said, fine.
I go down there, and I was nice and early, but I'm always willing to get up early when somebody needs me.
And I'm like, OK, where's the host if I'm the guest?
He goes, no, you're the guest host.
And I was like, you mean you want me to do a three-hour show starting in two minutes?
He's like, yeah, pretty much.
I was like, OK.
So hang on, you thought you were going to be a one-segment guest on Gallagher's show, and then you're there for your hit, as we say in the industry, and they said, yeah, but you're going to talk by yourself for three hours.
Well, it was CPAC, so I was grabbing people, you know, I'm like, hey!
Matt Walsh!
Hey, it's, uh, Terry Lake!
Hey, it's, uh, you know, Dinesh D'Souza!
Come on over here and let's chat!
So, I mean, look, I am notorious for being guest-heavy when I, uh, host, uh, America First or other shows, uh, but it's really a function of my innate laziness.
I get out the phone, I start calling my contact, and it's like, hey, come on for 10 minutes!
Let me kill some time!
Oh, okay!
And was it Tom that did that to you or was it Mike Gallagher?
Mike was sick.
Mike wasn't even there.
He was up in his hotel room coughing out a lung.
It was Tradup, who's a great guy, pal of mine, but I didn't quite see the whole, you're going to guest host today, oh and tomorrow, coming.
I love it.
He is Semper Ready.
He was always Semper Paratus, ready to roll.
That's why we love Kurt Schlichter.
Okay, Kurt, this is the story that I don't know where to begin.
Let's play this clip.
This is former US Air Force Airman Aaron Bushnell outside the Israeli embassy this weekend.
Cut 15.
I am an active duty member.
of the United States Air Force, and I will no longer be complicit in genocide.
I'm about to engage in an extreme act of protest, but compared to what people have been experiencing in Palestine at the hands of their colonizers, it's not extreme at all.
This is what our ruling class has decided will be normal.
Can I help you, sir?
Rebound sir!
So he's in his combats, he walks over to the Israeli embassy front gate, takes a water bottle full of some kind of accelerant, pours it on his head, puts his cover back on and lights himself as he is screaming, free Palestine, stop the genocide, and then he died in hospital soon thereafter.
I just posted two things, you know, may he rest in peace, but the fact that the Democrat party has become, you know, a lunatic asylum is now indisputable.
And the other point is Biden is destroying our military.
Your reaction, Colonel Kirschlichter?
Well, I have three points to make about this disgrace.
The first is he's a traitor.
Hamas has murdered Americans.
Hamas is holding Americans hostage.
He has taken sides against the United States of America.
He did in uniform.
He engaged in a political act of protest in uniform, which is a violation of not only the law, but his oath.
The last thing is he's a piece of trash.
I have gotten some pushback on Twitter because I pointed out that he was a disgrace.
He was a scumbag.
He was a loser.
He was a traitor.
He was a fool.
Maybe I'm being a little harsh.
No, we're not being harsh enough.
An act of self-destruction like that, a suicide, is a disgraceful and cowardly act that harms other people.
Believe it or not, there were some people out there who love this guy and now they are suffering because this narcissist jerk decided to perform this act on behalf of a bunch of terrorist enemies of his own country.
He's a disgrace.
He should be mocked.
He should be held in contempt.
And hopefully other people who are just as weak-minded as him will see that and say, you know, I'm not going to hurt myself and a bunch of other people because I'm going to be looked at as the lowlife that I am.
So I have absolutely no respect for this guy.
I'm not good.
If you want compassion, stop other people from doing this kind of foolishness.
Well, and also, take the side of those who are protecting themselves and their families and don't take the sides of the murderers.
I mean, this is a pro-Hamas statement.
Stop the genocide?
What, do you mean the genocide of October 7th?
That's the genocide you want to stop?
I don't think so.
We're talking to Kurt Schlichter, SeniorColumnistTownHall.com and the author, Most recently, and most relevant of all, of the book The Attack.
He wrote it in 30 days after October 7th on whether or not that could come here.
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Here's a brave guy!
You're being mean!
You know what?
We could use a little more mean.
Maybe if I taught one narcissist how to go in and hurting himself and ruining and destroying his family.
Have you seen his social media posts?
I haven't had the dubious pleasure.
I'm going to send them to you because how he remained in service as he was praising the tool of self-immolation as a form of protest on his social media.
So like, he should have been, but you know, aren't NCOs keeping an eye on their guys?
Where are the officers?
If it was General Kirk, I'd be having a discussion with this whole chain of command.
And again, that doesn't mean this guy isn't responsible for his own actions.
He is.
But I'd like to see if there's something we were missing with this guy.
It kind of looks like we were.
But this can't be allowed or tolerated.
He must be held in the contempt uh... he deserves
he must be mocked is uh... grotesque uh... actions
have to be called what they are not it you're always
and he's a terrorist loving scumbag and he's a disgrace and frankly i i
you know i i would have uh... i would uh...
not offer a military honors uh... it's going to be fascinating to see what the biden
regime and what that likewise that disgrace Lloyd Austin is going to do.
I've got the ice cream cut.
Oh, you got the ice cream cut?
How long is it?
50 seconds.
Can you play it?
Playback one.
Isn't this better than reading off a frickin teleprompter?
Right?
Right?
Anybody can do that except Except for Biden.
But he asks, like, a question, and it's, uh... Bob.
From NBC.
Okay.
Mr. President, sir, we just wanted to know, are you feeling well?
And was everything good?
And did you have ice cream today?
Then he picks up the paper and he reads the answer.
Yes, it was vanilla.
Alright, I'm gonna use that.
I'm gonna tee that up, but first... Oh my god!
Yeah, actually.
You know, sometimes you forget how truly funny President Trump is.
His speech on Saturday was just hilarious.
Truly hilarious.
All right.
I'm going to tee that up quickly.
Or actually, no.
What have we got at the top here?
I'm going to come in with that.
I'll do my pillow, and then I'm going to tee up Newsom for Kurt.
OK.
Where's your governor?
He's your governor, you semi-Texan.
That's like saying he's your abscess.
20 seconds, coming in with the, I call it cut 16.
Cut 16.
Ice cream.
Cut 17.
By the way, isn't this better than reading off a fricking teleprompter?
Right?
Right?
Anybody can do that except, except for Biden.
But he asks like a question and it's, uh, Bob, Bob from NBC.
Okay.
Mr. President, sir, we just wanted to know, are you feeling well?
And was everything good?
And did you have ice cream today?
Then he picks up the paper and he reads the answer.
Yes, it was vanilla.
If you haven't seen his speech, that was one of the things, the president told stories
about negotiating with Mexico, landing in Baghdad with no lights on the runway, no lights
on the aircraft, and then his impersonations of the current incumbent of the White House.
Just truly, truly hilarious, truly stunning.
It was his best speech at CPAC.
The man who got some of the most applause in the recognition at the beginning was Mike
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Why?
Because he's a great patriot supporter of President Trump and this show.
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And the book most recently, Attack.
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It's about whether October 7th could happen in America.
He is of course our friend Colonel Kurt Stichter.
Kurt, you are a resident of a former paradise that is California.
Your governor said something really weird over the weekend about Nikki Haley.
I wonder what your take is.
This is CNN, the governor of California, Gavin Newsom, Cut12.
First of all, I think she's one of our better surrogates.
So I hope she stays in.
I hope she does well tomorrow.
All the nasty stuff she says about Trump.
She's spot on.
99% of it.
So I'm enjoying this primary and I hope it continues.
So I wish her luck.
Why would such a prominent Democrat admit that Nikki Haley is one of their best surrogates, meaning the Democrat Party?
Well, look, my governor Gavin Newsom is not a genius, Dr. Gorka.
In fact, I think Titus the puppy would be a significantly better governor than Gavin
Newsom.
You know, I, you know, I don't know what's happened to Nikki Haley.
I've never liked Nikki Haley.
I was always never Nikki.
I was always No Way.
Why, why, why, why?
From the beginning, what was it?
Because I did 2004 the first time and it didn't work out so great.
And she wants to bring us back to a kind of Republican Party that was about managed decline instead of success.
And I think a lot of the donors are very comfortable with that because they're not hardcore America First conservatives.
But that's the kind of party we have now and she just doesn't belong to it.
There's some speculation out there she might become a no labels person.
But I think there is a label for her, and that's Jeb with a skirt.
Jeb in heels, which she seems to be rather proud of, which is weird.
Looking forward to your article this week on Airman Aaron Bushnell and how he is a traitor to the uniform he burnt himself alive in.
But we've got a minute left.
What is the general thesis?
What is the answer you provide in your last piece as to whether or not the Democrats will allow President Trump to win?
What is your answer, Colonel Kaye?
Well, the Democrats are free of any kind of constraint by hypocrisy.
They literally don't care.
So I expect them to do all the undemocratic things they falsely accuse us of doing.
Step one is to win, but we've got to win decisively.
That means get out there.
And if you're in a venue where you can vote for both of them, vote for both of them.
Republican, you need to support them.
We're a party that's going to have our Larry Hogan's, and we're a party that's going to
have our Donald Trump's.
And if you're in a venue where you can vote for both of them, vote for both of them.
That's what you've got to do.
Yeah, we've got to defeat them all.
We've got to defeat them.
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Maybe that keeps some knuckleheads from hurting themselves and destroying their families.
Yeah, good point.
I mean, can you imagine being his parents?
No.
Well, forget that.
I mean, that's kind of obvious.
Can you imagine being the guy who had to find a fire extinguisher and then run up to him and try and save him and then he dies?
Could you imagine what that guy's gonna feel for the rest of his life, you asshole?
These public acts of self-mutilation, and that includes a lot of... A lot of what?
It's narcissism.
A lot of these pranks.
It's a kind of narcissism.
It's the ultimate selfish act.
Yes, and I just can't be a part of it.
And we've got to say clearly that it is unacceptable, it's wrong, and it's bad.
You're not a hero, and I'm not going to waste my compassion on you.
It's dead.
I care about the women.
I care about the next weak-minded idiot who somebody talks into this.
You know, it's never the cadres who are doing it, Dr. G. It's never the cadres.
It's always the dummy.
You know, it's not the guys with the PhDs who are the suicide bombers, of which this is a brand.
No.
It's always the vulnerable and the weak.
Yeah.
And who should be looked after and should be picked up by the officers and the senior NCOs.
One minute.
Yeah, absolutely right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thanks, buddy.
Thanks for having me.
Great seeing you and the guys.
See you, buddy.
Adios.
Bye bye.
You too.
All right.
Titles.
Gates and Schlichter.
Something like he was a coward or something?
No, he's a traitor.
The airman who set himself on fire, he's a traitor.
And then hang on a second.
ADF here.
I won't use the audio here, Alex.
And what's the latest piece that, um, Jeff?
It's a New York Post one about the China.
Oh, the China.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is it in here?
Yeah, it's a New York Post one.
China, got it.
Okay, perfect.
Do we have a buffer?
Hey, Todd.
Hey, how are you doing?
How are you doing?
Good, good, good, good.
How are you doing?
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China is exploiting Biden's lax border policies, imperiling U.S.
security from the Center for Immigration Studies.
Welcome back, Todd Bensman!
Great to be here.
Thank you.
So I think it was Fox last week that was on the border and there was a whole slew of illegal immigrants being kept there for a moment before they were waved into America by the federal authorities and the reporter went down the line 44,000 Chinese have come in in the last 36 months.
them where are you from, where are you from, where are you from, where are you from, every single
person said China. Last time I checked Todd, we do not have a border with China and China
is rather far away. So what's going on? 44,000 Chinese have come in in the last 36 months.
The rate of Chinese coming in over the border is rapidly increasing and the piece in the New York
Post, I know it's almost, it seems obvious that that's a national security issue in that,
you know, why wouldn't the Chinese send spies in?
But what's probably a little bit lesser known about that threat is that the DHS, Department of Homeland Security, released a threat assessment for 2024 that lays out exactly what the Chinese espionage threat is.
So the Biden government has this information about the Chinese, and yet they reduced the number of questions asked at the border from 40 to 5 in order to get them through faster into the country.
I'm not kidding you.
And what the DHS report is saying is that operatives from the Chinese Communist Party are to physically repress dissidents inside the United States.
They have police stations, unofficial Chinese government police stations inside the United States, where they just monitor for dissidents.
And if you get out of line, these guys will go out there and physically assault you.
Also, there is something called rendition laid out in the DHS threat assessment for 2024, where they're tricking people that are US citizens, maybe of Chinese descent, into leaving the country and then they end up, you know, kidnapped and tortured or worse, back in China.
The Chinese Communist Party intends to continue to steal all of our best cutting-edge research from our top research institutions like they have for years and years already.
The Biden administration killed the Trump-era program that was intended to root them out and vet them faster and more often and in fewer numbers.
Biden administration killed that thing right out of the gate.
So the piece in the New York Post today really kind of elaborates to a far greater extent than we've seen to date about what the espionage threat is coming over our border.
And rest assured, the Chinese are not stupid.
They are sending spies in over that border.
They are.
And we'll probably not find out about this for years because they're, of course, trained not to be detected.
Yeah, yeah.
And the line continues from the establishment.
This is Alejandro Ocasio-Cortez on MSNBC saying something quite incredible.
Cut 13.
while being as xenophobic and anti-immigrant as they are, and while ginning up this false narrative
about this being a crisis.
And by the way, by then also preventing and blocking any legislation that would provide
not just a path to citizenship, but a path to work papers.
The crisis is a false narrative, Todd.
Yeah, OK.
Well, listen, the problem is not what she is saying.
The problem is that the administration is—it's what they're saying, which is that there's no real problem down there, or at least up until recently.
They do seem to be now worried—I don't think it's the administration, I think it's the campaign.
That's worried because the polls are showing the numbers are terrible.
This is an apex political issue for the 2024 election.
It's apex.
It's way up there.
So now we're starting to hear word about the administration, that they're going to take executive action that they could have taken for the last three years, but are only now possibly contemplating.
We'll see what they end up doing.
I'm skeptical.
I've been around for too long.
I've been on the ground watching this thing and listening to them for three years, so pardon my skepticism about that.
But if they do do something to shut this down, and they certainly could, it will be out of purely self-interested motivation to preserve power, not because it's good for the country.
Yeah.
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Oh, did we do everything for Casio?
Okay, and then do I need to give you titles, Eric?
Gates and Benzema.
Yeah.
What did he say about Haley?
All right, for Bensman.
That was Schlechter.
For Schlechter... What was the second segment?
We did the airmen and then what did we do the second segment?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, fine.
That's fine.
So for Benzmann... Who are all the Chinese coming to America illegally?
And then for Gates...
What does Nikki Haley think she's doing?
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This is her latest.
Not a good look.
Play the cut.
The United States has a population north of 327 million people.
Why do we need more kids?
I mean, you're a party.
Senator Tuberville is the one screaming that 10 million immigrants, which I don't even know that that number even makes any sense because it doesn't, have streamed into the country since Joe Biden has been president.
And you're claiming that that's too many people, that if more people come into the Southern border, this is some sort of crisis because we've got too many people and we've got no more space and we can't afford more people.
But now you're saying we need more kids?
Can you explain who's the we and what's the purpose?
You're also a senator from the state of Alabama.
God help the people there.
Are you saying the state of Alabama needs more kids?
Why does the state of Alabama need more kids?
More kids for what?
There was a time when the state of Alabama absolutely needed more kids because, you know, Alabama was a slave state.
And the mandate of the planter class in Alabama was for black women to produce more kids because those kids were property.
And they could work more kids and make more money on their plantations.
Are you saying the state of Alabama needs more kids because you think that those populations will include people who are maybe destitute and desperate enough if you kick out the immigrants like a lot of y'all want to do and you could make them do the work that the migrants are doing now?
Because that kind of sounds slavery-ish.
Because the illegal immigrants, they're not destitute, are they Joy?
Let's go to Dave Arizona who wants to talk about CPAC.
You got 90 seconds.
Hit me.
Yeah, CPAC was amazing, sir.
But we need to realize that the border is an intentional invasion.
And right now we've got young women, I'm sure you've seen it, Kayla Hamilton, Elizabeth Medina, and Lauren, the nursing student, all getting murdered by illegals.
Did you not listen to the show?
Did you not listen to the show?
Eric, what did I do at the beginning of the show?
Your opening monologue was about the murder of Lake and Riley.
Yeah, I got very pissed, Dave.
That's all I spoke about when I opened the show.
So, the thing I have, sir, is we need to stand up.
Quit relying on the federal government.
So what does that mean, Dave?
What are you going to do, Dave?
I'll go to the border like I did down in Yuma.
We need to go to the border and throw people back over the invisible line.
Alright, you find somebody with a badge and authority to do that, and get to work.
I like it.
But we're not going to have a revolution here, because when 600,000 people were killed by their fellow Americans, I don't want to have that again.
You find a sheriff with balls, and let's do it.
That's rather apposite.
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Welcome to the Manhood Hour.
Thank you very much.
It's a pleasure to be with you.
All right, so thank you for joining us for our deep dive on what our civilization faces and how we have to revivify the art of masculinity, manhood, and the eternal truths upon which our Judeo-Christian civilization is born.
But for those of the listeners and viewers who missed our prior chats, who is Arthur Millick, and what do you do, and what is Claremont?
Well, thank you.
The Claremont Institute is a think tank like many others, and I think that we do some of the most interesting work around.
We're on the cutting edge of understanding where America came from, how we got into this bad state, and where we're likely going.
And I personally run the Center for the American Way of Life, which is Claremont's DC Center.
And what we focus on is doing as much as possible to poke holes in the chinks of the armor Well, I'm very glad somebody is doing that.
Claremont.org, Claremont.org.
So let's talk about your Center for the American Way of Life.
So that's a very broad and bold summary, but that is how we understand our jobs.
Well, I'm very glad somebody is doing that.
Claremont.org, Claremont.org.
So let's talk about your Center for the American Way of Life.
What is the health report, Arthur Millik, on the American way of life?
Well, I would say very broadly that it's easy to get depressed about the situation in America.
And a lot of conservatives, I fear, go too far in that direction.
They have good data at their disposal.
They're not just making things up.
Things are indeed getting worse and worse.
Habits of self-government are decreasing.
The border is open.
The intel state is weaponized against many people on the right.
Nonetheless, I still find some elements of hope.
I'll give you a couple of examples.
The right is becoming more serious than it has been over the last several generations.
It's becoming angrier.
It's becoming more strategic.
It's learning to flex its muscles in a way that it simply has forgotten how to do.
You see this in how the states are becoming more and more serious.
You see this in some of the things that President Trump has said while he was president and now is saying on the campaign trail.
And you see it among a lot of people who are growing discontented With the direction of the country are starting to look at it more and more as exerting an illegitimate power over them.
And you almost feel the revolutionary spirit in the air in the country.
And these, I think, are signs of health.
Many fear that it's a sign of instability.
But the truth is that any free people has to at some point assert its rights to rule itself.
And so that's taking place right now.
There's just a couple of victories that I can name off.
In fact, one in particular that's worth noting.
I think that five years ago, it would have been absolutely unimaginable for us on the right to think that one person, the efforts of one person, basically Bill Ackman, could get the president of Harvard fired, who belongs to the most sacred class, the most sacred protected class in America.
But that did happen.
And there's a lot of support for that happening.
I don't mean to give you, you know, small-time optimism that doesn't amount to anything.
Of course, what we're used to is having tiny victories and then moving on, patting ourselves on the back and thinking, good enough, we can go back to normal America as usual.
That's not going to be the case.
But to get these kinds of victories is a very big deal and a sign of some hope to come.
Let me drill down on that for a second, that success of that, I think he's a billionaire, to basically get this anti-semitic pro-genocide lunatic out of her position as the president of Harvard.
But with that one example, isn't it a shame, Arthur, that that person really stepped down Because of her plagiarism and ended up staying at Harvard with her $400,000 paycheck, but not as the president.
I mean, it started because she refused to stay on the floor of the Congress.
That sighting and shouting from the river to the sea, which means the expulsion or the murder of all the Jews in Israel, is a genocidal charge. She refused to do that, but the real
issue was the 40 instances of plagiarism in the 10 articles that she wrote. So is that a kind of
half a victory with regards to getting back to normal? It's an interesting question. I'll take the
victory. You know, she has to...
First of all, it's actually worse than what you said.
It's not a $400,000 salary.
I believe that she retains the salary that she had as president, so it's $900,000.
Oh, you're right.
And then she doesn't have to do the job of a president.
So the same paycheck, but she doesn't have to run anything.
That's it.
That's it.
So look, yeah, it's true that she was taken down on the grounds of plagiarism.
But keep in mind that in a way that's a bigger deal than it would seem.
Because what it meant was that Finally, Harvard found the kind of crown jewel in the DEI diversity game.
We have found the person that will perfectly represent this morality that we are trying to impose onto every institution of higher ed and to every national institution.
And it turned out that she was not just not qualified, as we like to say, but a fraud, an outright fraud that plagiarized.
And so exposing that shows that Harvard, in its own way, still deeply wants to believe in the system of merit.
Whatever you may think of merit, they still deeply want to Want to believe that their pride rests on not just Harvard being some old storied institution with a lot of money,
But the best.
And if you want to believe that, you can't have hires like this.
So the thing that I regret more, actually, than her just going off to pasture and collecting $900,000, but remember, you left this out, also living in shame for the rest of her life.
And I don't think that she is ashamed of herself, but I think that everybody will look at her and know that you're a fraud.
and you made it that high as a fraud, now you've been kicked down a notch.
I think that the thing that should be regretted more actually is the fact that
I fear that this will be another instance where the right takes a victory lap, gets a victory.
And relaxes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Unlike the left and the Alinskyite tactics of you have a victory and you just dust yourself off and you fight even more.
We don't take victory laps.
We don't relax.
You keep on fighting.
That is the way of life of the left.
One more push back.
The fact is we don't have a culture of shame in the West and in America so she may feel ashamed but I'm not sure others will look at her like that because we need to talk about this as well.
I don't think shame is a public concept anymore.
If you look up You know, social media, TikTok, hookup culture, we have to discuss that as well.
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Arthur, the President said, I will be your retribution, I will be your justice.
He said, I'm a dissident and this November will be our new day of liberty and freedom and judgment for those who are trying to destroy our civilization.
One issue I have with those who want to save what we hold dear is that We might have a conference here or a conference there, but President Trump isn't really an ideological figure.
He is an alpha male in the quintessential definition of an alpha male.
I think that's why a lot of the establishment detests him, not for political reasons, but you know, just how much of a man he is.
Have we done enough work as lovers of Western civilization to define what it means to be a conservative in the 21st century?
Talk to us a little bit about your book.
Well, the book is, I appreciate you saying that it's my book, but it really is the work of 20 authors.
It's an edited volume that puts together, topic by topic, of where the right went wrong over the last generation.
What the consequences of that have been and what we should do going forward on every issue that you would care about on immigration on big tech on higher ed, etc.
So that's its purpose and its purpose is to redirect where the right goes from here because what we've been doing.
Has accumulated in mistake after mistake after mistake and mistakes that sometimes look like victories, sometimes in the moment, give you hope that things are just about to change.
And then you look back five years later, you're like, wow, this thing, this whatever institution we have in mind has been taken from us.
If you zoom out to take a broad look at America, we have to ask ourselves, number one, what institutions, national level power institutions, actually belong to the right?
I think the answer is none.
And you have to ask the next question.
How did they get taken from the right?
And I think often the answer is that they were taken from the right, on the right's watch, while the right was pretending to do something about it.
I'll just give you one concrete example on higher ed.
How many, as you said, endless conferences, seminars, white papers have been written about reforming higher ed?
How many man hours have been spent to try and do something about it?
How many billions of private philanthropic dollars have been given to try and do something about higher ed?
And it just keeps getting worse and worse.
And the reason is that oftentimes the right doesn't really want to win.
Explain that.
Why do they not want to win?
They don't want to win because they have no real moral self-confidence in what they teach.
They don't want to win because it's easier to just give things away to the left and pray that you'll be left alone.
They don't want to win because, at the end of the day, what many of these people that animate the institutions that are, quote, saving America on behalf of their donors, what they really want is just a comfortable life, all of the cocktail parties, and not to actually be hated by the left.
An attempt to be destroyed.
That, I think, is the bottom line.
That's fascinating.
So, let's step back, you know, one more iteration.
Why do these people, who have nominally controlled half of the nation's thought, lost that moral courage?
What happened?
Why do they not wish to fight for that which they say they represent?
Well, part of the reason clearly is that they're scared.
They're scared, and they see what happened to President Trump.
President Trump ended up having every single, as I said before, national institution turned against him.
The universities, the press, the Fortune 500s, the administrative state, now the intel state, and now, maybe not long into the future, the military itself.
So, people really are scared.
If it weren't for Elon Musk purchasing Twitter, I think that the game may well be over.
So, it's partly the fear.
It's partly also this view that Many of the older generation on the right have that, you know, politics is just about pendulum swings.
Sometimes it swings in our direction, sometimes it swings in the other direction, but ultimately it reverts to the mean.
And the truth is that that is a cope.
That is a kind of Because the obvious response can be given, which is that the pendulum swings back until it doesn't.
Just like it didn't with every other great nation from the past.
It seemed like the pendulum would swing back in ancient Athens until it didn't.
The same thing for Rome.
The same thing with the great British Empire.
They don't want to see that sometimes there isn't just some kind of internal inertia that reverts to the mean.
If a reversion to the mean is possible, it's done through real political action, through gathering your own assets, through bolstering your own powers, so as to make the left back off.
And as you know, the left does not like negotiating.
They're not interested in hearing what you have to say.
They can back off if you have enough powerful institutions on your side to make them doubt the next step.
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Arthur, you said something, I want to make sure I heard you correctly in the last segment about the institutions, which you're right, the conservatives just lost control over every institution that celebrates virtues and rights, what it means to be a man, what Western civilization is.
And then you said, if it were but for Elon Musk, we would have lost them all.
Are you saying that, is that a glimmer of hope?
How big a deal is that?
Because I've been on several, I've met him in the White House a few times, and then we've been on several, what do you call them, Twitter spaces together, and He's not a philosopher.
He's not even a conservative.
He's like a, for me, a Nikola Tesla kind of genius level individual who's just discovered politics and it's this shiny toy and he's just getting his head around what this thing politics is.
Is this the one little glimmer of hope we have that at least there's one platform where there's freedom of speech?
I think you're probably right about your assessment of him, although the truth is we don't know that much about him, though he is new to this.
I will say that In a way, him being a newcomer is an advantage.
He's not steeped in the old lullaby cliches.
He just uses his instincts and sees what the stakes are.
The stakes are extremely high if you lose the freedom of speech.
While at the same time, the regime has absolute power to control the narrative, to control the facts, and importantly, to control the platforms on which conservatives and Americans communicate with one another.
You're done.
You at that point don't really have elections.
You have elections through the optical illusion prism that the press provides.
You don't really have the freedom of thought because there's no genuine exchange and persuasion
among American citizens.
And he felt all of these things.
And I think that, if anything, that makes him superior to the many, many DC types
that I met in my time here and who, up until very recently, had been saying, well, you don't like
Well, why don't you build your own?
I can't tell you how many times I heard that.
And nobody suggested, well, why don't we find a really wealthy person who's actually patriotic to buy it and make it into the free speech platform that is necessary if there's any hope for the right to, you know, legitimately lead the country.
So you're saying he's unburdened by all the baggage of the establishment, so he comes to it with fresh eyes?
With fresh eyes and with sure instincts.
And I would add one other thing to that.
He also looks at himself as a visionary, and he wants to be a savior of the West,
in a way that, as we talked before in the previous segment, you know, much of the establishment right
doesn't look at itself that way.
It wants to get a little bit of money here, a little bit of comfort there,
and that's what you call a career, without ever taking risks.
He is a real risk taker that sees the burden of saving the West
has to, at the end of the day, fall on one person's shoulders,
and he thought that he was worthy of that task.
Now, I don't mean to exaggerate that.
I don't mean to say that it's going to happen just that way.
I don't mean to say that everybody's kind of savior illusions are valid.
But you know what?
It turned out that there was one extremely wealthy person who had some kind of vision and sense about things, and he purchased a platform, as he explicitly said, for those motives.
I think that we should be recognizing that and should be very grateful to that and wonder why, for all of the billions of dollars that are spent annually to fund professionalized conservatism, why not a single person ever thought of something like that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
They said, go off and build your own.
Well, you know, we found one guy.
He wasn't even a conservative.
I'd say he was maybe a nascent libertarian.
And he spent billions of dollars on one platform.
And there are a lot of rich people out there on the right.
Get serious.
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I have a theory, Arthur, about the President and why they hate him.
So you outlined for us the sinecure, corporative empire of Conservatism Inc. that doesn't want
to win because then they'd actually have to do something and the left would hate them.
They'd rather pick up their sinecures of $200,000, $300,000, $400,000 and not actually have any
responsibility.
I think that the Never Trump movement, the establishment conservatives, detest President Trump because of this alpha male attitude that he'll say, you know, damn it all, whatever it takes, the slings and arrows, I'm going to fight for America.
Does that make sense to you that there's kind of this visceral atavistic hatred based upon how he represents as an alpha male?
Yes, and I would add the following that what they wish deep down is that politics would still be about gentlemanliness.
We're just polite to one another.
We make arguments to one another.
We can come to some kind of agreement and both sides be kind of satisfied and that'd be good enough.
I wish that it were so.
I wish that we were still a country and I hope we become once again just such a country.
The problem is twofold.
The problem is that the left has absolutely fanatical designs on the country and refuses to be negotiated with.
And in a certain way, you could say, well, from the left perspective, why negotiate with the right?
They just lose over and over again.
Look, we've taken every single institution away from them under their noses.
They've barely made a peep about it.
Why continue to negotiate with them?
And so when they see Trump, you know, Trump can be crude sometimes, but Trump ultimately is a man motivated by a mission to salvage what is possible of this country.
He gives genuine political talk, genuine talk about protecting a constituency, protecting the country, and They're not used to somebody that actually has anything at stake.
They're used to a class of politicos that at the end of the day, as I said before, they don't really care one way or another where things go, because the only things that's at stake usually are their careers, their bonuses, the next position that they get as a VP at Boeing for doing nothing.
They're used to those kinds of political people rather than patriotic people who are actually attached to something and feel that they're losing something.
Well, how do we engender more of that fighting spirit?
Because we see in the last 10 years there's these two options.
Jordan Peterson, you know, tidy your room, make your bed.
And then the noxious girlfriend-beating, pimping Andrew Tate.
Hopefully he's being rejected, but I want to take the Jordan Peterson message to the next level.
How is that best done?
Because there's only one of him, Arthur.
There's only one of him, and he's a smart guy, he's a very interesting person, but it's not enough to talk about making one's bed, although I know that he does much more than that, though that's kind of what he got to be known for.
I think it has to do a lot with finding something that you are actually defending about the country.
Now, here's where you get into the tape problem, is that The more the country signals to young men that it despises them, the more it tells them that they are filled with all sorts of idiotic prejudices and illusions, that they should be subjected to pharmacological treatments, to therapies, etc., when the country looks like it has no idealism for them, that is one plausible direction that they can go.
So, I think that there's a kind of truth that's being expressed in the Tate message, not that I am in favor of it.
I just mean to say that that's what maleness may look like when it's shorn of any kind of idealism.
And the more the country's in possession of the left, the less idealism that there is.
So, I suspect a lot more of that is actually going to emerge.
You can't love a country that tells you at every step from every organ of power that it hates you, that it despises you, that you've caused all of the evil at the core of the country, and then tells you, hey, and why don't you go give up your life to purify your soul fighting for it?
It doesn't work like that.
It's part of the reason that you see how drastically military recruitment has fallen.
It's a fascinating thing, and it's a very dangerous thing, because one day our country will find itself in a situation where it has to fight, and there's going to be that persistent recruitment crisis.
And then it's not clear what we're going to do.
We're going to double down on mercenary forces.
We're going to double down on all sorts of unproven or semi-proven technologies.
And we are running a very dangerous game in this regard.
Yeah, I would say the anti-tate phenomena is not just a shorn of ideology or idealism, it's shorn of any virtue.
That man brags about basically being a pimp and beating up multiple women.
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He is the executive director of the Center for the American Way of Life at the Claremont Institute's DC office, Arthur Millick.
Last segment we have with you, you said something interesting at the very beginning of the hour that, you know, if we're victorious, if we can save our civilization, our nation, get back to the virtues, the The principles upon which it was founded.
We won't be going back to life as normal.
What does that sentence mean?
Does it mean that being a conservative, being a protector of Western civilization in the 21st century is fundamentally different from what it was in prior centuries?
It means partly that a lot of conservatives have some illusion about going back to some specific point in history.
And everything simultaneously will return to that, and that's where our efforts should be invested.
1950, 1970, whatever that date is.
And the truth is that we should be forward-looking.
We should be a forward-looking movement that looks to secure peace, stability, and rights for the majority of the country.
Uh, and that can only be done in the kind of fierceness required in the kind of strategic vision that is required of it if we are no longer tied to having in our imagination some one marker To which we will return because you can't.
There is no return.
The institutions are different.
The demographics are different.
The people are different.
The opinions are different.
Everything, or maybe not everything, but many things have changed and we shouldn't hinder ourselves that way.
Yeah.
I have an understanding that the principles may not have changed, the values may not have changed, but the context has.
So let's get ready to rebuild and to salvage that which those who hate our civilization have tried to destroy.
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