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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Who's behind AT&T cell phone coverage collapse?

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	Bye.
	Greetings, dear friends.
	It is Sebastian Gawker, and this is America First back in the swamp, back from Nashville and the NRB, the National Ridges Broadcasters Conference.
	Great to be back.
	John, are you at the controls of the Starship Enterprise?
	Are you there?
	I am at the controls of the Starship Enterprise, Dr. G. All right, so when's a good time to check if your IFB is working or if you left it in the car?
	When is the best time to do that?
	Probably not 30 seconds before we go live.
	I think it was less than that.
	I think it was like 22 seconds and I shouted to my... Oh no!
	I left my IFB, my earpiece, in my car because I took it with me to Nashville.
	But you know, John, he just does a little bit of waving of the wand and I've got a new one, so nicely done there, nicely done.
	Okay, so much to share with you today.
	The guys say it's a slow news day, but I've got some things to discuss with you.
	First things first, when you're leaving Nashville, From the biggest hotel in America that doesn't have a casino.
	That's a very special proviso, okay?
	I think that's a lot.
	This is the biggest one without... It was like the TARDIS.
	It was insane.
	It was like a city within a city, and it was one hotel.
	Just finding your room was a challenge.
	When you're leaving at 4 a.m., and you get to one of the entrances, try to get an Uber to the airport so you could come home, do your Newsmax show, do the radio show, and there's no coverage on your cell phone.
	You go, uh, this is not a good time not to have internet coverage.
	God bless the young lady, who will go nameless, who was valeting cars at 4 a.m., who said, just go into the lobby and use the lobby Wi-Fi.
	And I did.
	And I thought, what is going on?
	I go to the airport, I get on the Wi-Fi airport to call my wife, and then I realize, oh, what's the Daily Mail reporting?
	Cell phone coverage out across America.
	Multiple carriers, the biggest one AT&T, just totally down.
	So I'm just gonna say one thing, okay?
	I said this on my own recognizance, because I'm never traveling anywhere again without my satellite phone.
	We discussed this a few months back.
	I haven't even spoken to these guys, but this is so important.
	I am never going to be without... Do you know only 7% of the Earth's surface has satellite phone coverage?
	And if there's a hack, I think it could have been the Chinese.
	We'll discuss later.
	But if the system just goes down, what are you going to do without your phone?
	How are you going to contact your loved ones?
	How are you going to do anything?
	So, I have my satellite phones.
	You should get one too.
	Sat123.com today.
	I have one for every member of my family now.
	And I'm never going to travel without it.
	Yes, it's an extra handheld device.
	But if this happens again, I can get things done and I can reach my family.
	Sat123.com Or call them up 941-955-1020.
	Tell them you heard from me and they'll give you the best deal.
	That number.
	941-955-1020 sat123.com.
	Okay.
	That's actually the name of the satellite phone store.
	sat123.com. Okay. That's the actually the name is the satellite phone store. Okay.
	What's happening in the world?
	What's happening with the left?
	Let's listen to a man who actually calls himself a communist.
	If you don't believe me, look it up.
	And was a member, for a very short time, of the Obama administration.
	Van Jones, I don't know what's possessed him or whether he's the guy they're pushing out there to try and change the narrative.
	Van Jones had the following to say about Biden's open border policy.
	Cut three.
	At some point, the number's too big, even for Democrats.
	And now we're at a place where, because Congress won't act, Republicans won't let Congress act, the number is too big of people coming across the border, even for Democrats.
	And so the president is going to take some action.
	Reality is, the courts might strike it down.
	Also, to your point, he's floating these trial balloons to kind of see what the reaction is.
	But if Republicans are going to politicize the issue and then refuse to act on it, Biden has to do something.
	We politicise the issue, but why does he have to do something?
	I thought he fixed it.
	What's the trial balloon that he's talking about?
	Well, hold on to your horses.
	If you haven't read the news or you missed it in the last 36 hours, In the imminent State of the Union Address, allegedly, so the rumor has it, the current incumbent of the White House is going to announce his executive action to help secure our border.
	Which is very strange because what have we been told for the last three years?
	By the likes of Alejandro Mayorkas, by Corine Jean-Pierre, by the rest of this crooked cabal that runs the country.
	Oh, Biden can't fix it.
	They inherited a broken system from the Trump administration.
	This has to be a bipartisan solution.
	Congress, the House, the Senate has to fix it.
	Which is peculiar because when we were in the White House, We secured the border.
	More people from the terror watch list crossed into America in three months than in three years of the Trump administration.
	How did we do that?
	And why is it that we've been told that, oh, this can't be fixed with executive orders?
	Well, how did we do it?
	How did President Trump?
	What did Stephen Miller present to the president to sign into reality.
	And why?
	Why did the new president sign more than 90 executive orders relating to the border?
	Why did the Department of Homeland Security on your dime, millions of dollars, create an app The CBP1 app that allows illegals sitting in Mexico to pre-clear themselves as quote-unquote asylum seekers.
	So when they cross the border they say hey I'm Jose from Mexico and it could be from Venezuela, Guatemala, who knows and I'm here to seek asylum.
	Oh really?
	Hey Jose, come on through.
	Here's $10,000 on a debit card.
	Here's a cell phone paid for by the US taxpayer.
	Where would you like a plane ticket to?
	Strange.
	I think all of those things require executive actions.
	The chief executive has to authorize the creation of an app that allows illegals to pre-clear themselves.
	The executive has to say, yeah, give them $5,000, $10,000 funneled through front organizations like Catholic charities.
	Oh, and then, oh, don't forget to fund them a plane ticket to anywhere in America they wish to go, as long as you've bought them a cell phone, too, on the taxpayer dime.
	That wasn't Congress.
	That wasn't us.
	Strange as it may seem, the Trump administration didn't give 10 grand and a free phone to every illegal crossing the border.
	No, we didn't do that.
	Biden did that.
	Alejandro Mayorkas did that.
	The Department of Homeland Security does that every single day with your money.
	They're in big trouble because I tell you one thing, an executive order you reveal in the State of the Union, that's not going to make you win the election.
	Alright, don't be caught without comms!
	I'm going to be carrying my sat phone everywhere I go because I'm not going to be at the mercy of cell phone providers.
	It is the satellitephonestore.com or go to sat123.com.
	That's the satellitephonestore.com or sat123.com.
	If your phone's working and you want to call them, you can write down the number 941-955-1020.
	941 955 1020 that's 941 955 1020 Phil David Randy don't go anywhere
	We'll get to you after we talk to our buddy.
	We're gonna get Matt Boyle on the show.
	But if you want to call in, the number is 833-333-GORKA.
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	Dialing them up.
	Mmm.
	We don't have any B-roll of... He's at CPAC, right?
	He's at CPAC, yeah.
	We don't have any B-roll, do we?
	Of CPAC?
	Not really.
	Or people speaking at CPAC?
	Maybe President Trump.
	Yeah, the IFB is on the backseat of my car.
	Bye.
	Bye!
	That's a good place to leave it, Gorka.
	All right, so, A block.
	We have footage of you interviewing Chris Plant at CPAC.
	Oh, that's fun!
	Want me to use that?
	Those are small bits.
	Let's see if I can find longer ones.
	Yeah, you can use that as well.
	Okay.
	Okay, so the A-block title, let's give it...
	Do you want to do the Casio cuts?
	Yes.
	Uh, two...
	Mm-hmm.
	Four...
	So...
	Six.
	Oh, and eight.
	So, two.
	What do you think of Greg's idea?
	Colon.
	Fox should leave New York like everyone else.
	Four.
	Can you hear me guys?
	Yeah, we can hear you.
	I lost you there.
	Oh, okay.
	Testing, testing.
	Check one, two, check one, two, check one, two.
	Talk, talk, talk.
	Keep talking.
	Check one, two, check one, two, check one, two.
	We're still here.
	Oh, you got us?
	Okay.
	I gotcha.
	All right.
	Four.
	Joe Biden tries to explain how great his economy is.
	Six.
	Oh, no.
	Screw six.
	Eight.
	Yep.
	When a Democrat senator wants the New York Times to stop fact-checking Biden, comma, things must be going really well for the Democrats.
	And then let's do nine.
	Yep.
	AZ prosecutor refusing to send illegal who attacked NYPD officers back to that sanctuary state.
	Next line, good for Rachel Mitchell.
	If she's on Twitter or her office is, can we use her name?
	Okay, great.
	30 seconds.
	Okay.
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	CPAC has started the largest gathering of conservatives on the planet.
	I'll be addressing them from the main stage tomorrow morning.
	President Trump will be there as the last speaker on Saturday.
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	One man who is a Patriot through and through, who is the Washington Bureau Chief for the conservative juggernaut that is Breitbart, is at CPAC right now, our good friend Matt Boyle.
	Are you there?
	Dr. G, always a pleasure.
	Great to be here.
	And yes, I am at CPAC right now.
	Alright, so tell us, tell us, tell us.
	We'll be there tomorrow.
	What's it like?
	How much fun it is?
	How much energy is there?
	Well, look, I think this is... I don't know if they did CPAC out here in D.C.
	or the D.C.
	suburbs and National Harbor last year.
	I don't know.
	I didn't go to CPAC last year.
	I was the first one I missed a long time, but this year, a couple years before that, they did it in Florida.
	It feels kind of important that being back here in the nation's capital, or just right outside it, because it's a message to the swamp that you have thousands and thousands of America First patriots gathered here, ready to send a message to official Washington that this needs to change.
	We have a dementia patient as the president who belongs in a memory care institution.
	The vice president of the United States is totally incompetent.
	The Democrat-controlled Senate is working against us.
	The Republican establishment is working against us on everything.
	And we have got a bare, slim majority in the House of Representatives of America First conservatives.
	that are holding the line the best they can to get us to election day, and things need to change.
	I think that this is a really important seminal gathering of conservatives ahead of—we always say
	that the next election is the most important of our lives.
	This one really is. This one really, really is. We can totally change the trajectory of world
	history if we pull off the greatest comeback in the history of mankind by sending Donald Trump
	back to the White House and removing the ingrate that is Joe Biden from the Oval Office and
	sending him on his way to the next Trump.
	I think we have the title for this segment.
	By the way, Eric, we have a dementia patient in the White House.
	We have a dementia patient as president.
	All right, so you talked about the global aspects of all this.
	I just came from a lunch at the Heritage Foundation with the head of their America First kind of MAGA party in Spain, which is the Vox party.
	An amazing lunch.
	I've heard that Milei, the president of Argentina, Bukele, the new head of state in El Salvador, is going to be at CPAC.
	And then we have President Trump.
	So, Matt, this isn't just an American phenomenon.
	People wanting their countries back is happening all over the planet.
	Yeah, no, no doubt.
	You mentioned Malay and Argentina.
	We see Giorgio Maloney who won in Italy recently, in recent years.
	We've seen the Brexit movement in the lead up to the 2016 election in the United Kingdom.
	I've seen Nigel Farage roaming around here.
	I talked to him a little while ago.
	The fact is that there are like-minded people all over the planet, worldwide.
	And again, this is a historic thing.
	I think that in 2016, economic nationalists, populists, whatever you want to call it, we
	kind of caught everybody by surprise.
	And also, the movement wasn't strong enough and ready enough to hold it together for the
	next several years.
	What's happened is, over the course of the years since 2016, we've seen economic nationalists
	and populists, and again, whatever term you want to use, mature as a movement and learn
	how to win and learn how to fight and learn how to achieve policy victories.
	And I think that you're seeing that happen around the world.
	You mentioned the guy from Spain there, Santiago Abascal, I think is his name.
	Correct!
	Good for you!
	Yeah, you got it, you got it.
	And we're going to see elections in Portugal this year.
	We just saw elections in Taiwan.
	We're going to see elections all over the planet.
	I think something like Close to 50% of mankind worldwide are voting in 2024.
	So it's an extremely important election year.
	And I think that the energy is around the planet.
	Countries here at home in the United States and these wins around the world.
	fuel us here too. They are all interconnected and it's proof that we can beat the globalists.
	They can be defeated, we can win. This is a war. It's a war for what kind of a country
	we're going to have, what kind of a world we're going to have, but we can win the fight
	if we actually stick together and we fight back.
	That might be an even better title for the segment, We Can Beat the Globalists.
	Alright, you sat down not too long ago for an extended interview with the President at Mar-a-Lago with Alex Marlowe, so you know best what's going on in his mind.
	What do you think are the notes he's going to hit on Saturday as the usual closing speaker at CPAC?
	Is it going to be about the deep state, the economy, immigration?
	What are you expecting to hear, Matt?
	Yeah, well, all of those things and more.
	So, I mean, I think that he said to me and Alex when we met with him in late December that the two biggest issues of this election are the economy and the border.
	And I think he's right about that, right?
	Like, everybody sees that.
	Those are the two biggest issues.
	You see Biden out there reeling right now.
	Biden is literally admitting now that he has executive authority to try to close the border after trying to blame Congress for it and failing.
	So I think you're gonna really see him zone in on immigration.
	I think you're gonna really see him zone in on the deep state, the administrative state, and just the stakes of this election.
	Right?
	Like, this is the faithful, right?
	Like, this is the thousands of people that when they meet CPAC every year, they take what they learned here, and they take the energy that's built here out across America, into every community world, you know, nationwide.
	And what they want to do is, what Trump wants to do is fire everybody up, right?
	This is the rah-rah-rah moment.
	Heading into the general election.
	Look, also on Saturday is the South Carolina primary, but there really isn't a primary anymore.
	Nikki Haley is an afterthought.
	She's already done.
	She's totally failed as a candidate.
	She's a total loser, right?
	So the fact is, is that we are entering the general election now.
	So this is Trump's moment to use the stage here at CPAC to set the stage going into the general election and get the troops marshaled for the fight ahead.
	Troops must be marshalled.
	We must save the Republic and win the election.
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	Who hacked America's cell phones?
	Okay.
	Okay, well then...
	And the guy that said you were lying hung up.
	Well, thank you.
	Oh, lying about what?
	I didn't even see it.
	He said that you're lying by saying that China hacked them.
	I am?
	Oh, because he knows who did, right?
	Yeah, he said because he works for 9-1-1, and he said it was a maintenance issue.
	Oh!
	A maintenance issue that affects the whole country.
	When did you say- you said- I didn't.
	Did- did- yeah.
	I didn't.
	I said, could it be?
	Could it be?
	He- he needs one of those things.
	You know those machines that they advertise?
	Uh-huh.
	To get the wax out of your ears?
	Oh.
	If it is just an accident, then, like, that's one hell of an accident.
	Yeah, and one accident that knocks out your whole coverage across the nation?
	That's not an accident.
	What, is there, like, one antenna that, like... It's the antenna from Goldeneye.
	Right.
	Um, get 10 and 11, Eric.
	Yeah.
	Is that, um, kissing?
	Yeah.
	Once.
	Let me know if you want them short.
	They're both kind of long, like, over a minute.
	They are, yeah.
	This should be fine.
	I can team up.
	For an hour long, yeah.
	Okay, give me a second.
	What are we doing here?
	MyPillow, and... Tedros is where?
	He's from... World Health Organization.
	No, no, but what country?
	He's from Greece, I think.
	No, no, no.
	No, he's from Africa.
	Oh, somewhere there.
	Not Somalia.
	Where's he from?
	The Chinese bought the position for him.
	Ethiopia.
	Ethiopia, there we go.
	Interesting.
	I never would have guessed it with a name like that.
	I would have thought Greek.
	Yeah, it does sound Greek.
	AT&T said it's been restored.
	It has.
	But they're still not saying what it is.
	How'd they restore it if they didn't know what happened?
	Well, because the guy on the 9-11 dispatch knows.
	Okay, I wouldn't have time to test these guys.
	Okay, this is a C segment.
	You just gonna take calls?
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	Phil, Randy, don't go anywhere.
	The number here, 833-33-GORKA.
	What do you think happened to cell phone coverage across America this morning as I was trying to get an Uber from Nashville back to the swamp?
	Oh, what do you think?
	833-33-Gorkov, that's 833-33-46-752.
	Please, if you're in a safe location, not driving, I want to ask you a personal favor.
	In the break, I was contacted by none other than Rich Sementa, who is the producer.
	For the great one, for Mark Levin.
	And he sent me a text.
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	All right, let's go to your calls.
	Phil in Philly is in pole position.
	Hey, Dr. G, thanks for taking the call.
	These Democrats, I'm so tired of hearing about this free Palestine, but they have no answer as to who they want to head up a Palestine state, and I got a suggestion.
	How about Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar renounce their citizenship, get over there as President and Vice President.
	We get rid of two American and Jew-hating politicians, and they pick up two American-hating and Jew-hating politicians.
	Well, they've got the scarf, they've got all the gear, they've got the map of Palestine outside their office, so they're ready, Phil, right?
	Absolutely.
	And Dr. G, please, in the words of Marco Ramius, we've got to give this American a wide berth.
	Let Tucker do his thing, buddy, please.
	Hey, look, it's America.
	I'm allowed to criticize people I think are wrong.
	But if he sat down with Biden and we could see how two dictators give basically the same answer, next interview should be with Biden.
	Seriously.
	Oh, I would love that.
	I would tune in to see Tucker interview Biden, but I don't think he'd let Biden talk for 40 minutes, although Biden couldn't.
	I just want to see somebody not get rolled by a KGB colonel.
	Who's not prepared for when he says, I'm so glad the CIA never hired you when you applied.
	That's a piker's move.
	You knew that he read Tucker's personnel file.
	Come on.
	We need a little bit more professionalism, but I appreciate the sentiment.
	Thank you, Phil.
	Let's go to Randy Knoxville.
	Hey, good afternoon, Dr. Gorka.
	Thanks for the heads up on the satellite phone thing.
	I'm a bit of a prepper.
	That's something I'm sadly lacking.
	Good, good.
	After tonight, after this morning, like, I'm not going anywhere without my sat phone.
	Absolutely.
	I've got to be in touch with my beloved.
	I wanted to ask you, it wasn't until the day I was busy the last couple days, I looked at the video of Nikki Haley, broke down and started crying and sobbing, talking about, you know, her family on the podium of this You know, I just worry, lest I be considered a misogynist or something, Dr. Gorka, I'm not.
	Don't forget, a racist as well because she was, you know, picked upon and bullied at school because she's, you know, she's not American, like white American, right?
	Remember, she said that.
	Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
	That's right.
	You know, I love Margaret Thatcher.
	I'm not a misogynist.
	I think my wife would make a good president.
	She's strong and great and smart like so many women.
	Like your wife, I remember listening to her on your show.
	I appreciate it.
	But I didn't see it.
	Did she break down and cry?
	Did Nikki cry?
	She started sobbing, talking about her husband being deployed, and she actually said it's like that he's fighting.
	I didn't know he was in a combat situation.
	You know, I feel like, you know, she goes from one part of like an ex-wife whose alimony payment is late to sobbing and crying.
	And we want somebody who is emotionally like that to be the Yeah, I think the word you're looking for, Randy, is we like somebody who would be emotionally stable.
	Can you imagine, you know, what President Trump's been through?
	If she cries because President Trump's asking, why isn't your husband campaigning with you?
	Then how is she going to face down with Lil' Kim and his nukes in North Korea?
	How is she going to deal with a resurgent ISIS and an al-Qaeda in Afghanistan?
	Good point.
	Thank you, Randy.
	Well put.
	We'll be back with your calls momentarily here on America First.
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	People confuse the party with Trump.
	And Trump is the... It's Trump's party.
	That's right.
	That's the point.
	It won't be his party forever.
	Right?
	It just won't.
	At some point Donald Trump won't be here or whatever, you know, like one way or another.
	We all have our time.
	So, we do.
	We do.
	So, I'm very optimistic about the Republican Party.
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	I'm not one of these... If you're one of these people that think democracy is getting eroded and the institutions are crumbling, stop.
	It's not.
	We went through 9-11.
	We went through a pandemic.
	The institution stood strong.
	Let me put it a different way.
	Assholes come and go, but America is here to stay.
	Okay, yeah, that's gotta be censored.
	But... Can you believe he said that?
	He thinks it makes him sound tough, talking like that.
	But I thought, I thought Nikki Haley, he said Nikki Haley's gonna win.
	No, in a landslide.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I'm sorry, in a landslide.
	Do you want it?
	I gotta beep it, though, if you want it.
	Yeah, let's do it.
	Professor Brad!
	Hey Seb, how we doing?
	Where are you?
	This isn't your usual office.
	No, I'm in a metrosexual hotel, man.
	Oh, that looks very trendy.
	Looks a little bit too trendy for me.
	Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	Look at that.
	I put the artwork right there.
	Where are you?
	Are you at CPAC?
	I had to run back to my hotel for you.
	Oh, you're a trooper.
	You're a trooper.
	You want to take Chris real fast?
	He won't hold.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Line one.
	Mics are hot.
	Yeah.
	Hello, who's this?
	Hey, what's up?
	Hey, Biden beat Trump in a landslide.
	Trump sucks, dude.
	Sorry?
	Try English.
	Have you put your dentures in?
	Try that one.
	Put your teeth in.
	Trump sucks, dick.
	Trump sucks, dick.
	He sucks my teeth.
	How do you actually function as a human being?
	Do you know how to breathe?
	I'm curious.
	Please, do give your mother her phone back.
	Thank you.
	All righty then.
	Is that the same guy?
	Yeah.
	Sir, can I get you to just take a quarter step to your right, please?
	Was that the guy who came before?
	Can you guys keep talking?
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Is that the guy who came before us before?
	Yes, he says yes.
	Audio check 1, 2.
	Audio check 1, 2.
	He's got us.
	You got us?
	Yeah.
	Alex, just be prepared to put everything, pot everything up in the essay in case.
	Yeah, yeah, just in case.
	20 seconds.
	No customer.
	Sat phone inbate here.
	Yeah, we have a sat phone.
	Okay.
	I'm going to go get my phone.
	Dr. G is ready for anything on America First.
	You know, I thought I was ready for anything, but when I'm trying to order my Uber at 4am this morning in Nashville outside my hotel, and my phone is like... doesn't work because the whole grid's gone down.
	I wasn't ready for that, so I'm kind of still a bit freaked out.
	I'm gonna do it again because I love these guys.
	I'm not traveling anywhere without my satellite phone.
	I'm going to take my regular phone so I can do the internet and all that jazz but I need to be able to call my wife, call a taxi if they hack us again because I think that's what happened.
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	He is such a good trooper that he's not just, you know, brushing elbows with anybody who counts in the conservative movement at CPAC.
	He's run back to his hotel room to come on the show.
	That's how dedicated he is.
	From Liberty University, the Dean of the Business School, Professor Dave Brat.
	It's been a while.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	You have not loved me as you should.
	Thanks for having me on.
	Well, you're being a real, real good sport to come on the show whilst there are so many people who want to talk to you at CPAC.
	I'll see you there tomorrow morning when I give my speech.
	You're a former congressman.
	You don't have to do partisan politics because, you know, you're an academic now.
	But I've got to ask you, as a person who fought the good fight on Capitol Hill, Are you just shocked or you just more of the same when you saw this border bill with the rhinos trying to push it through at 3 a.m.?
	What do you think of what happened last week?
	Yeah, no, that was so awful.
	And on immigration, I just want to push everybody to Rosemary Jenks Immigration Accountability Project.
	It's new.
	She's the foremost fighter on Capitol Hill.
	Go check them out.
	IAProject.org, I think it is.
	And yeah, that immigration bill, it didn't do anything, right?
	And the big giveaway was they said, we're going to shut the borders down after 5,000 people per day.
	So that implies that they can shut the border down after 5,000 people per day.
	So if you can shut the border down after 5,000 people per day, why don't you shut the border down?
	And that tells you everything you need to know.
	They want a wide open border.
	They're happy with everything that's going on.
	The Senate is awful.
	The Manhattan Institute, Heather McDonnell wrote a piece.
	The mainstream media only tells you half the story.
	They tell you the cheap labor thing.
	It's good for the economy.
	They don't tell you it's terrible for you.
	The average cost now per one kid in Los Angeles School District is $50,000 per year.
	Heather McDonald a few weeks ago.
	Go look it up.
	So somebody comes in, they're made in the image of God, that ain't the debate, right?
	They work in America, they're illegal, they make $30,000.
	They still don't pay any taxes, so net zero there.
	And then they got two kids in the public school system, that's $100,000.
	Who pays that?
	45% local tax, 45% state tax, 10% federal tax for education.
	You pay the bill.
	That's the flip side of the free labor, cheap labor crowd argument.
	The American people, I think, are finding this out.
	And that, in a nutshell, this border invasion, now Biden, he's lost.
	They were going to try to put pressure on Republicans, like, you know, we blew up the bill and we don't care.
	And it ain't working.
	So I think he's going to go through historic measures in the next few weeks to shut down the border.
	I know, but it'll be too late and it won't make any difference and that's why we need President Trump back.
	But let's talk about a very specific slice of the economy and business because you are the Dean of the Business School at Liberty U. I'm still trying to recover from seeing this on television about three minutes ago.
	In the Wall Street Journal, Jeb Bush wrote the following sentence concerning the decision against President Trump and now the assault on Elon Musk's business and the SEC.
	If these rulings stand, the damage could cascade through the economy, creating fear of arbitrary enforcement against entrepreneurs who seek public office or raise their voices as citizens in a way that politicians dislike.
	Jeb Bush said that.
	Now that's really very significant in my opinion.
	How concerned are you as the Dean of the Business School that we seem to have an infection of politics and the use of judicial tools against two of the most successful businessmen in the nation?
	Yeah, I cannot overstate how important that issue is.
	At CPAC, we got all these guys doing, you know, constitutional conventions, you know, and wanting to change, you know, balanced budget.
	Now is not the time for any of that.
	After that Tucker interview with Mike Benz, B-E-N-Z.
	Oh, we've had Mike on this show numerous times.
	Holy Moses, right?
	DOD, State Department, CIA, FBI, mainstream media, Stanford University, Washington University, all working through the Department of Homeland Security.
	Why them?
	Because they have been given the legal authorization by Congress to spy on the American people.
	So 22 million tweets, which are now called cyber attacks, tweets are now cyber attacks, and they can Deplatform you and they did that 22 million times and so stay at home moms sitting there trying to make the ends meet.
	working a marketing job from home, trying to feed their kids, have now been de-platformed from their job.
	So yeah, do I think they're targeting people and it could cool or chill?
	I have a CEO Summit every year.
	The CEOs, the Fortune 500 CEOs, they're scared out of their minds.
	The next sentence out of their mouth could ruin their market share and ruin their corporation.
	And it's just time for the American people to wake up and take sides.
	Because that is the most important threat, the loss of liberty.
	The First Amendment is put there for a reason.
	Free speech.
	The First Amendment is not under attack.
	It's already been attacked.
	And we're losing.
	And the only good news out of that Ben's interview was he said, I think the left got out over their skis on the COVID piece.
	And so, the American people aren't really buying it, right?
	Right, but there's no proof that they've stopped doing their end run around the Constitution and going straight to Palo Alto and to Silicon Valley.
	We've been talking to David Bratt, Dean of the Liberty University Business School.
	We'll follow him at bratteconomics and libertyedu.
	I'll see you at CPAC tomorrow, Professor.
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	Let's go to our buddy in the tall grass in Livermore, Ray.
	Yes, Dr. G, thanks for taking the call and as self-appointed senior caller at large and ombudsman to the show, self-appointed, I feel necessary to bring these things up.
	Okay, what have I done now, Ray?
	We're being a little rough on Harris and Nikki Haley and Tucker Carlson.
	What?
	Are you lumping Tucker Carlson with Nikki Haley and Kamala Harris?
	That's an unusual triumvirate.
	For different reasons.
	Harris and Haley Are very qualified.
	They are very qualified indeed.
	In fact, there's many positions as school nurse or kindergarten teacher or librarian.
	or librarian... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, teacher? Are you kidding me? How about lunch lady? OK? There you go.
	Alright. Crossing guard, there are unfilled positions all over the place that these ladies could easily fill and
	highly talented. Let me get the studio speaker guys. And then talk to me about Tucker. Tucker, you were a little
	rough on him yesterday. Tucker, Tucker's one of us.
	He's a friend, Dr. G. If you like KGB colonels and you say there's no crime on the streets of Moscow, I'm not buying it.
	I'm not buying puff pieces for KGB colonels.
	Okay, I know this is a no-no.
	Glenn Beck interviewed Tucker.
	I know, I saw it!
	Okay, and I thought he answered a lot of your questions and concerns during that interview.
	He also got incredibly defensive and said, well, if I want to support him, I can.
	And I'm thinking, no, you can't, not as a concern.
	I mean, you can as an American.
	You can support whoever you want.
	You could say, I like Saddam Hussein.
	But you can't say, I love America, and I'm a conservative and say Vladimir Putin's cool.
	I'm sorry, Ray, I draw a line there.
	I don't think he said that.
	No, no, no, no.
	He said, if I wanted to, I could.
	And it's like, yeah, but you couldn't be a conservative.
	But he loves America as much as you and I do, Doctor.
	If he's an isolationist, he doesn't get it.
	I mean, Ray, you know more than anyone, because you've worn the cloth of the Republic, after Pearl Harbor, especially after 9-11, after COVID, you can't be an isolationist.
	The math doesn't work, Ray.
	I get the instinct, but the math doesn't work.
	You can't pull down the shutters on the Pacific and the Atlantic and think, we'll be hunky-dory, Ray.
	You know that.
	I don't think that's his position.
	Come, come, come, come, come.
	It is.
	He doesn't give a fig for anyone else.
	Which he's allowed to.
	It just doesn't work.
	Thank you, Ray.
	Thank you.
	Why is the dissident right going woke?
	In Russia, we have a saying, everything new is something old that's been sufficiently fried.
	As promised, let's address the videos Tucker made from the Russian supermarket and the Russian metro.
	The average household income in Russia is less than $15,000, compared to $75,000 in America.
	As a result, the average Russian household spends more than a third of its income on food,
	compared to just a...
	...
	.
	But maybe some of you think that we should just say, this is not our problem, and that we should let the migrant families starve or freeze to death.
	But that's not what decent Midwesterners do.
	That's not what leaders do.
	We didn't ask for this manufactured crisis, but we must deal with it all the same.
	With our partners in Cook County and the City of Chicago, Who is that, Jeff?
	Isn't that your favorite politician in all of America?
	He's one of them, yeah.
	J.B.
	Pritzker.
	Who's that?
	I'm confused.
	So, A, who in America is saying, let the immigrants freeze?
	Who said that?
	Um, I'm trying to think.
	Not anyone that I can think of.
	Okay.
	And then the second part, he said, this manufactured crisis.
	Does that mean it's fake and there isn't a crisis?
	Or does it mean that somebody made it?
	And if somebody made it, who made the border crisis, Jeff?
	Probably people that were sanctuary states and cities.
	You mean like Illinois?
	Correct.
	That guy's really rich, right?
	What family is he from?
	Yeah, I think it's the Hyatt Hotel.
	It's one of the richest families in the world.
	We looked it up.
	It's ridiculous how much money.
	I don't understand.
	If I had a lot of money, I wouldn't waste my time being a politician.
	Why do they do that?
	Do you have any idea?
	I think it's something to do.
	They have the money to buy the seat, so it's something to do.
	Oh, that makes sense.
	All right.
	What did you think yesterday, Eric, of the fact... Because I was kind of shocked.
	We had all of my buddies on the show from Nashville, and then we had Todd Starnes, who has his own radio station.
	He just loves radio so much.
	He said, I'm going to buy a radio station.
	I'm going to buy it.
	And he said the best part, because he carries our show, he says the best part are the callers.
	I was kind of... I thought it was me.
	Isn't this about me and my accent?
	I thought it was about me.
	Great minds think alike.
	I believe you yourself have said on the air that the callers are the most important part of the show.
	And they are!
	We have the best callers, folks.
	Only the best.
	Only the best.
	Best callers, best listeners.
	So, shall I do away with... Alex, shall I do away with the monologue?
	Shall we go to callers?
	What do you think?
	Yeah, let's go to callers.
	Let's go to callers.
	All right, we've got some great guests coming up.
	Really excited about the third hour.
	We've got a great patriot coming on in the second hour.
	But Nancy has been waiting quite some time in Pennsylvania, and you mustn't keep a lovely lady waiting.
	Line one.
	Hi, Nancy.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	And even though I am a lady, I'm going to try very hard not to cry.
	I think that we're going to know what caused millions to lose cell service as much as we know these three things.
	Number one, who leaked the draft of the Dobbs decision?
	Number two, whose cocaine was in the White House?
	And number three, who did the Biden family sell all of our stolen classified information to?
	Yeah.
	What about, what about, can I add one more, Nancy, who really flew to Epstein Island on the Lolita Express?
	How about that one is number four?
	Well, that's fine.
	And there are many more I could come up with.
	But you know, time is... No, we have we have time for you, Nancy.
	Are you still there?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we have time for you.
	We have time for you.
	Yeah, I think you're right on probably all of those counts.
	The fact that, what are we?
	This started, it was like 4 a.m.
	Central Time for me when my phone stopped working.
	It's, what is it?
	It's 4 Eastern now, so we've had 12 hours plus and AT&T Still won't tell us what happened.
	They fixed it.
	So it's working again.
	So if you fixed it, Nancy, that means you know what happened, correct?
	Well, honestly, I think I will be hard pressed to believe whatever story I happen to hear.
	Yeah, I think you're right.
	Nancy, would you stay on the line, please?
	I want to say thank you for being so patient.
	I want to give you one of our brand new Dementia Joe Has Got To Go t-shirts.
	It's got him and his aviators licking his ice cream cone.
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	Give Jeff the size you want and your mailing address and you're going to get one for free.
	Okay, let's continue.
	Let's go to Don in Los Angeles!
	Dr. G, Rolling Thunder on the right.
	Hey, buddy, how's it going?
	Good, good.
	Oh, I wanted to congratulate you so much.
	I loved that show the other day with Mark Levin.
	Thank you.
	You weren't a little put off because I said no introduction, no music, just come in with Mark Levin.
	I think I shocked a lot of people with they thought they tuned in to the wrong radio show.
	No, that was, that was, every now and then you gotta change it up a little bit.
	Man, that was just phenomenal.
	You know, I'm so, I'm so bad.
	His producer, as I said, texted me in the last hour.
	He wanted a favor.
	Oh my gosh, we gotta see.
	Did you guys do what I asked you to do?
	Have you guys got into 50,000?
	Sorry Don, don't go anywhere.
	I want to check that we've got his producer.
	Guys, he's still short!
	Come on!
	Rich Sementa.
	Rich S-E-M-E-N-T-A.
	We gotta get him 400 followers on Twitter on X. Do it for the great one!
	You know what I forgot to do?
	After we have guests on, Don, every night I get the clips of the interviews from Eric.
	He texts them to me, and just as a courtesy, I send them to our guests and say, hey, here's your interview, use it, what have you.
	Don, I forgot to send the Great One his interview until Rich reminded me today.
	Oh gosh, as long as he gets it.
	Hey man, that was a barn burner.
	And you know, it's no problem being in the minority if you're in the right.
	Yes!
	So the truth isn't about majority, right?
	Yeah, that's so true.
	If it was, we'd all still believe the world was flat and that Earth was the center of the universe.
	We obviously we don't.
	I hope.
	But yeah, you know, it's what bothers me is like, well, I heard Kelsey Gabbard, who I like, but on on these subjects, she's a little so so wrong.
	She was saying that people like you and I that believe in a strong defense and strong foreign policy, even defending freedom, just helping people They're fighting their own fight.
	They fight their own fight.
	She said, oh, you're warmongers and you're war hawks and you're this and that.
	But then if anybody criticizes them, she says, oh, you're smearing us.
	You're calling us names.
	I say, wait a minute!
	You know, that's all you guys are doing.
	If they want a substantive argument, I mean, actually we'll destroy them.
	Because again, isolationism and appeasement feeds aggression.
	If you want wars, Do what they're doing.
	It's just gonna... It happened in 1938 with the Munich conference.
	It happened in the last three years with Biden pulling out of Afghanistan.
	You're absolutely right.
	And I find it strange from somebody who at the time was a serving major in the National Guard.
	It's like, if you have issues with a robust American stance internationally, then how come you're serving in the armed forces?
	We're not interventionists.
	That's not the Trump message.
	But we're not isolationists.
	Thank you, Don.
	Also waiting patiently in Dayton, Dick, line two.
	Sebastian, Dr. Gorka, always a pleasure.
	I was telling your screener, I've been doing some, I've been studying a lot and technology and things, but I'm thinking, Sebastian, I'm not far from the bridges like the John Broby.
	They need this inner structure.
	And I think our railroads You know, we got to prevent these accidents here, say, in the nation.
	They need to start repairing the track.
	This innovation and this technology is just, even like where the BART freight goes, the walls or the concrete is bad, Sebastian.
	So less kind of high tech and more getting the infrastructure fixed.
	Is that what you're talking about?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Because it's, you know, it's just bad because I remember one of the bridges in Ohio.
	It's just that we've got to.
	I don't know why the president's not doing this, Sebastian.
	Well, because he doesn't believe in America.
	It's very simple.
	But I agree with you.
	Thank you, Dick.
	Let's go to Iowa.
	Franco, line four.
	Hey, Dr. G. Yes, finally!
	I've been waiting for that air horn for months.
	How you doing, buddy?
	I'm well.
	All right.
	What's your load today, Franco?
	What's your load?
	Same thing every day, biodiesel, soy-based.
	Alright, so tell me what's going on.
	Are you excited?
	Are the truckers going to save America?
	You've got 90 seconds.
	Well, I guess we're talking about Governor Pritzker and I started chuckling about remembering my imprimus issue correctly.
	He's not the best of the family.
	His brother, who is now his sister, Is a pioneer in the trans... Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Did I hear rightly?
	His brother is now his sister.
	Jeff, can you back it up?
	Does Franco have his facts right?
	When there's rumors that she's one of the big people that are behind pushing this, or he, whatever it is.
	Oh, that's right!
	Oh my gosh, I completely forgot.
	If you've got billions of dollars to push the trans thing, Franco, I might have to do a special on the Pritzker perversions.
	What do you think?
	I think that's a great idea!
	You might have to have several chapters.
	I might have to have a week-long special dedication version.
	Alright, Franco, it's been too long.
	Stay on the line. Let's give Franco two t-shirts.
	Let's give him the Trump did nothing wrong, number one, that you guys designed.
	Let's give him the, uh...
	Let's give him Dementia Joe has got to go.
	And Jeff, while you're getting the address and the size, tell him to not be such a stranger.
	We love our truckers and we especially love Franco.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First.
	Ah, that puts me in a good mood.
	wherever you are, whatever you're doing, stay on this channel.
	Thank you.
	Bye.
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	All right, there are some people in this life who When they say jump, you just say how high.
	One of them is Rosie.
	You know who you are.
	She's the woman who got my wife involved in politics.
	She's the woman who almost single-handedly saved the Commonwealth of Virginia for Governor Youngkin to become the governor.
	And she said, there's this chap, he's been, you know, trying to secure America since the 80s.
	He served as the chief in the National Headquarters for Customs and Border Protection, and he's running for the Senate.
	Would you get him on your show?
	And I said, Rosie, We're on it.
	And he's here right now, Chief Ron Vitello.
	Welcome to America First.
	Dr. Gorka, I'm grateful to be with you and your listeners today.
	Well, when Rosie says you're a good guy, I said, I think I have the email.
	Yeah, if you say he's a good guy, he's a good guy.
	So I've got a bone to pick first.
	Whenever Mark Morgan comes on the show, I'm like pissed.
	Why isn't it Customs and Border Patrol?
	Can we go back to that?
	I don't like the Customs and Protection thing.
	It's like woke.
	Can we just do patrol?
	It's very interesting.
	I think there was people that wanted to innovate and be original at the time.
	But most people say customs and border patrol, whether they know it or not.
	So good.
	You're on the right track.
	All right.
	So tell us your story.
	So what have you been doing since 1985?
	You must have started when you were 10.
	What did you started?
	What did you do in 1985?
	Well, I swore in my first gig, my first job, a career job in the United States Border Patrol.
	My first assignment was in Laredo.
	I took the... That's a real one!
	Yeah, it is.
	I thought hearing the swab, that's a real job.
	Yeah, frontline.
	I swore in.
	Ronald Reagan was the commander-in-chief.
	Oh, wow.
	And had the benefit of working with great patriot men and women all over this country.
	So I was in Laredo a couple of different assignments.
	What was it like back then, in the 80s, to put on the green uniform and be there in Texas?
	What was that like?
	I was proud to do it in a place like Laredo.
	Not everywhere I worked, but Laredo is one of the places where the people who live there appreciate the men and women of The Boredom Show, because what?
	We are the ushers at their church.
	We are the coaches of the basketball and the baseball and the soccer teams.
	And so people there understood and appreciate the service that the Border Patrol does on behalf of the men and women all over the country.
	But I will tell you that in 1985, it was much more of a localized kind of outfit.
	We cared deeply about how well we did our jobs.
	Most of the people in places like Laredo cared, but the rest of the country, yeah, there's this thing called the Border Patrol.
	Yeah, you didn't have that big visibility.
	Agree, agree.
	Which is probably a good thing.
	Yeah, well, the job's going all right.
	You shouldn't have.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	The controversy was low.
	Things changed very dramatically in 2001, 9-11.
	It changed everything in the government.
	And where are you then?
	Where are you with CBP in 2001?
	I was in Nogales, Arizona.
	I was acting as the second-in-command of Nogales, which is right on the line.
	One of the biggest stations in the Border Patrol at the time heard on the radio on the way into work what was happening on the East Coast with the attack, and it changed the Border Patrol.
	It changed all of us in very dramatic ways, but in the case of the Border Patrol, We were already working our way into a better sustainable planning effort getting smarter about how we predict the future And then 9-11 happened and we had to level up in a dramatic way And so we had good leadership at the time they formed the department they formed CBP we became part of Customs and Border Protection and
	Yeah.
	And I grew inside of that headquarters.
	I came here right after 9-11 to help grow the headquarters.
	We changed the chain of command.
	We defined what success looks like in the border.
	And about 2003, we published a new strategy in 2004.
	But in general terms, we consolidated the border enforcement authorities within that one agency and just got better at doing the work for the American people.
	So if we jump forward to today, you served till 2017.
	2019.
	2019, you ended up as the chief in the national headquarters.
	When you were outside, and I'm sure you heard that cut, but when one of our governors, the governor of Illinois, After more than 8 million illegals are literally let into this country, when Governor Pritzker says this is a manufactured crisis, what's your reaction, Ron?
	Well, if it's manufactured, he had a real hand in it, didn't he?
	The hypocrisy is pretty rich with this guy.
	Illinois, Cook County, the city of Chicago is a sanctuary city.
	And politicians like him, who got sold into the woke ideology and have sold out to the woke ideology,
	have said that it's okay for people who come to the country illegally to stay in that city.
	And think about what sanctuary cities actually do.
	This is someone who broke the law to come into the country, breaks the law to come in.
	I love this.
	to stay in this country and then they break another law inside of the city of Chicago
	or Cook County or in Illinois and these cities and these towns and folks like Pritzker want
	to let them off.
	So they're not only sanctuaries for being against the law as illegal immigrants, but
	then they broke another law inside of the state of Illinois.
	And so sanctuary cities protect criminals.
	And here's a response to sanctuary cities.
	I love this.
	This is Rachel Mitchell.
	She's a prosecutor from the state of Arizona where they recently apprehended the local
	authorities a murder suspect from New York City.
	And New York City is a sanctuary city, right?
	What did she say about the future of this alleged murderer?
	Cut nine.
	The DA spokesperson said this and I want to get your reaction.
	Here's his statement.
	He says, it is deeply disturbing that DA Mitchell is playing political games in a murder investigation.
	New York's murder rate is less than half of that of Phoenix because of the hard work of the NYPD.
	It is a slap in the face to them and to the victim in our case to refuse to allow us to seek justice and full accountability for a New Yorker's death.
	What's your reaction?
	Well, my reaction is that I'm putting the victims first and making sure that he stays in custody.
	And again, this is not casting aspersions on NYPD.
	But, you know, it was just a couple of weeks ago that some of the illegal immigrants that were in New York City who beat up on police officers were let go.
	They were flipping the camera off as they walked out of jail.
	And guess where they ended up?
	Four of them ended up in Maricopa County and they had to be taken into custody here.
	I don't want that to happen.
	I don't want this individual getting out and able to victimize more people.
	What do you think of that?
	Maricopa County Attorney saying, we're not going to ship a guy back to a sanctuary city, Alvin Bragg.
	Good for her.
	I don't know Alvin Bragg, but actions speak louder than words, right?
	She's making sure that this individual is held for justice.
	And Alvin Bragg, we just don't know what would happen if they sent him back, and so good for her.
	Well, we know what happened to the four illegals who were released.
	Five illegals who were released less than four hours after they ruthlessly beat up two officers of the NYPD, and then they escaped to Arizona.
	Jeff, can we reach out?
	If Rachel Mitchell's doing interviews on cable, let's get her on this show.
	Let's try and reach out to her.
	You have your mystical ways.
	Will you try that?
	Sure.
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	So that was a real enjoyment to do.
	We were building fence then, they called it fence then, but it was actually wall.
	Same wall we put up when Trump was in charge.
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	But it was a great assignment because I had my in-laws there and cousins for the kids.
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	Yeah, it's a shame about Vermont.
	Yeah, same thing.
	Politics, super blue.
	It was funny, when we were there, it was during the Iraq war, and they have town meetings in the spring.
	It's part of the tradition there.
	One minute.
	Come in with four.
	They would regularly impeach Dick Cheney in the town hall meeting in small Podunk, Vermont.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, my God.
	Actually, come in with two.
	Come in with two instead.
	Come in with two, Gutfeld.
	That's relevant.
	Yeah, Ph.D., good.
	I'll do Ph.D.
	after Cut 2.
	Cut 2 and then Ph.D.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	40 seconds.
	I gotta get to 8 as well.
	Alright.
	We've met before, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	you you
	you Trump is 100% innocent in this.
	It can't be fraud because who is it against?
	When I'm in a contract negotiation, I can pretty much present anything I want because the other side will assess it and come back with their number and then we agree.
	There's nothing hidden in a contract.
	Nobody is that stupid.
	But if you don't work in contracts, you don't know this.
	I think this is all an act to keep Trump off his game.
	That's all this is.
	But this is why we all need to move to Florida, Fox.
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	But that's how it is these days.
	They're going to do what they did to Trump, they're going to do to you and me.
	That's Fox's Greg Garfield saying they should all move.
	Jeff, what do you think of that idea?
	Fox should move to Florida?
	I think it would be a very good idea, too.
	Especially so they get sued in Florida, not New York.
	Right, right.
	Good for you, Greg.
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	He served... How many years were you a CBP, Ron?
	I was in the Border Patrol for 33 years, and then I spent another nine months at ICE.
	Okay.
	And I guess that wasn't enough.
	Now he's in civilian clothing.
	He's running for the Senate out of the Commonwealth of Virginia.
	Let's just put it up there right now.
	Ron Vitiello.
	V-I-T-I-E-L-L-O.
	That's RonVitiello.com.
	Before we talk about why you did this crazy thing to run for the Senate, I've got to play you this 15-second cut from the man who's supposed to be securing our border.
	Play cut.
	It certainly is a crisis, and we don't bear responsibility for a broken system, and we're doing a tremendous amount within that broken system.
	But fundamentally, fundamentally, Congress is the only one who can fix it.
	He bears no responsibility.
	That's the Secretary of Homeland Security.
	Your reaction, Ron?
	No, that's not true.
	He knows better.
	And he knows that when he took over, we had 45-year lows in activity on the southwest border of illegal migration.
	And when Donald J. Trump was the president, no laws were changed.
	His policies enacted via the law got us to the lowest activity levels in almost 50 years.
	And then we have 90 executive orders by Biden.
	Right.
	And then millions of illegals.
	I think there's a connection there between the executive actions and the illegals, right?
	100%.
	They want to talk about root causes.
	The root cause of our current migration crisis is that team right there.
	All right.
	Before... Okay.
	One quick question before we talk about your run.
	I always ask this of Mark, how is the morale of your colleagues at CBP now?
	Do they have any left?
	It's not great.
	You've got to say a prayer for them.
	I want them to hang in there because this too shall pass.
	But they are men and women of action.
	They are not designed or built or recruited to be greeters.
	And that's largely the job in a lot of places for too long.
	Men and women of action who want to do their job to secure America and they're not being allowed to do so.
	I love that.
	Listen to Ron.
	Let's pray for our CBP members.
	OK.
	Why are you running for the Senate?
	I want to serve again in a different way.
	I went through the nomination process in which I was in a situation where I was asking senators on both sides of the aisle to vote for me to get out of committee.
	That changes the way you look at politics.
	It changes my assessment.
	Doesn't it sicken you?
	It did.
	It changes who I believe and who is actually there serving us.
	There's too many of them that are lining their pockets.
	There's too many of them that are being performative on Twitter or on television.
	We need people in the House and the Senate, I want to be in the Senate, that serve Americans,
	that serve the Commonwealth of Virginia.
	And I think there's not enough of our patriotic public servants in that space and I want to
	put my hand at it.
	Well, I'd like this guy to win, so go to ronvittiello.com, ronvittiello.com.
	Greg, Jeff, if Ron wins, we're going to have to increase the number of senators we allow on the show from two to three, right?
	I think it's three now.
	No, no, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	It's Marsha Blackburn, who I was with last night.
	Yep.
	It's J.D.
	Vance.
	Who am I forgetting?
	Tubberville.
	Oh, yeah, sorry, Tubberville.
	And so Ron can be number four, right?
	That'll work.
	All right, because we don't like the rest of them because they're all arrogant.
	OK, Ron, if you want to come on this show with regularity, you better win.
	Support this man right now.
	Go to Ron Vitiello.
	Oh, no, we've got we've got a couple of different websites, RonVitiello.com and ChiefVitielloForSenate.org.
	All right.
	He's a multitasking man.
	ChiefVitielloForSenate.org.
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	Could he be more creepy if he tried?
	I mean, I think he's a little bit creepy.
	I mean, he's a little bit creepy.
	I mean, really, if you try... Play that as B-roll.
	Jeff, what is the comment you made?
	That was like, what, yesterday?
	Sleepy Creepy?
	What is the comment you made about that's the President of the United States, about 30 feet from him is the nuclear football.
	Played the B-roll.
	Played the B-roll.
	What did you say about that cut when you played it for me?
	I was talking about the sign behind him, how ridiculous it is, how cheap it is.
	The other thing is... It's like they went to Kinko's and got some foam board from the high school project pack, right?
	And the other thing is, you listen to that delivery, I am really looking forward for the State of the Union.
	To see if he can get through it.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	A debate with President Trump.
	How about that?
	Oh, that won't happen because they'll replace him by then.
	Yeah, okay, okay.
	That's a good point.
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	All right, somebody wants to talk about the wonderful governor of Illinois, Brian from Georgia.
	Hey, Dr. G, love your show.
	I don't want to talk about him as much as you.
	You're a wordsmith.
	You make your living with words, but you kind of slipped up there.
	What did I do?
	Did I say something nice about Pritzker?
	No, but you... Let me tell you what you said.
	You said... You talked about how he's got a lot of money in remote hotels, and you said, why would somebody rich want to be a politician?
	Two words.
	Donald Trump.
	But that's the thing.
	That's the thing.
	He's not a politician.
	Pritzker's not the President of the United States.
	He inherited his money.
	It's different.
	Trump made it.
	So the system was broken.
	I don't put people who made their millions or billions in the same category who have it land on their lap.
	And then why, if you have it land on your lap, would you want to run for public office?
	It just doesn't compute for me, Brian.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	And I guess a better way of putting it would be, why, if you had all that money, would you want to be a donk?
	Would you want to be a what?
	A donk.
	D-O-N-K.
	It's short for donkey.
	Oh.
	For those who inherit the money, it makes no sense to me, and I stand by that.
	But thank you for your call.
	Let's go to Glenn in Phoenix.
	I have just a very simple question.
	I've lived in Arizona the majority of my life.
	I can remember vividly when Carrie Lake was a hardcore Barack Obama supporter.
	Carrie Lake reminds me a lot of Nikki Haley.
	She'll say anything You know, to get what they want.
	Nikki Haley, when she was the UN ambassador, there were a lot of people in maggot world who loved this woman.
	They talked her up.
	Oh, I know, I know.
	Define what hardcore Obama supporter means.
	When you're out there talking about him, how he's so wonderful.
	She used to be a news anchor in the morning.
	Yeah, I know.
	She was a news anchor for 20 years, I know, across Arizona.
	She used to talk about him, Ben.
	And so what I'm saying is that... Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Stop.
	Stop, Glenn.
	A news anchor, right, reports the news.
	If I get you off the phone now and talk to Jeff, can you send him the evidence where as a news anchor, not talking about Obama as president, reporting news, but where she's blowing smoke up his backside?
	Can you actually prove that to me, Glenn?
	Because I'd be curious, because I don't buy it.
	Let me try.
	I will go and I will try to find it.
	All right, stay on the line.
	Talk to Mr. G. We want the proof.
	You don't come on the show and just say it.
	We want the proof.
	Let's go to JJ Orlando.
	Hey, yes, Dr. G.
	I just wanted to say I love that Demented Joe has got to go and it reminded me- Not Demented!
	Not Demented.
	Dementia Joe has got to go.
	Oh, well he's Demented as well.
	True.
	Kind of, you know, a combo pervert and Dementia combination.
	A combo pervert.
	Okay, that's a good one.
	But it reminded me of an episode of a show called The King of Queens that was on for nine years.
	Was that on for nine years?
	Yeah, it was on.
	I'm from Queens originally.
	That's the guy who's like the UPS delivery driver, right?
	Exactly.
	And his father-in-law, played by Jerry Stiller, is hysterical.
	He used to also be on Steinfeld.
	Yes.
	He overheard his son-in-law on one episode calling his father-in-law a demented old circus monkey.
	And I thought, we should start calling Joe a demented old circus monkey.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	I reject that completely, JJ.
	Because monkeys are cute.
	Oh, okay.
	Am I wrong?
	I mean, who doesn't like a monkey?
	I mean, apart from the ones that, what is it, the capuchin ones that, like, bite you?
	But, I mean, is there anything much cuter than a chimpanzee?
	I mean, come on.
	They can be nasty, and Joe called some woman a lion dog-faced pony soldier, so it's only right that we call him a demented old circus monkey.
	Demented old circus monkey.
	I will take that under advisement, but thank you kindly.
	All right, I'm gonna do it one more time because I don't want to be in that position ever again at 4 a.m.
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	That's the first thing.
	Right, right.
	And people change, you know what I mean, that aren't interested in politics.
	Trump used to be a Democrat.
	Reagan was a Democrat.
	The best ones used to be Democrats because they know how to fight.
	Seriously, Carrie Lake, Reagan, Trump, all these people that used to be Democrats are the best when they come over.
	All right, uh, let's record this.
	Oh, no, we don't have time.
	One minute.
	Uh, what have we got left?
	We've got some good cuts.
	Oh, Macaskill!
	Cut eight.
	That's so good.
	Um... We still have Sununu, too.
	It's quite long, though, right?
	It's 37.
	Oh, we've got another hour.
	What am I talking about?
	That's right.
	Yeah, well, it's an hour with a guest, but yes, we have an hour.
	How long is Sununu?
	38. 38.
	Okay, Sununu is not time sensitive.
	The McCaskill thing?
	McCaskill's the best.
	Yeah, it's coming with 8.
	That's pretty great.
	20 seconds.
	I know.
	I'm moved that every newspaper in America quits doing any fact checks on Joe Biden.
	until they fact check Donald Trump every morning on the front page.
	It is ridiculous that the New York Times fact checked Joe Biden on something.
	I mean, he vomits lies.
	Trump vomits lies.
	And every day, over and over and over again.
	And it's just ridiculous that the New York Times is doing a fact-check on Biden while they're numb to the torrent of lies coming out of Trump's mouth.
	Who's that?
	That's Claire McCaskill.
	Jeff, that's a really interesting idea, fact-checking President Trump at the New York Times.
	What do you think of that?
	Well, she is right.
	The New York Times has gone full MAGA now.
	They're so in trouble.
	That just tells you how much trouble they're in.
	STOP FACT CHECKING BIDEN!
	Let's go to Leo, San Diego.
	Yeah, Sebastian, you know, I've talked to you before.
	I know you're a Christian man.
	The lies that I hear every day from progressives in the Democrat Party really affect me.
	They mentally affect me.
	Almost physically, they make me ill because I know it's lies and they know they're lies.
	How do you deal with people like that?
	How do you forgive and move on from people like that when they have such a control over
	parts of your life?
	Yeah, I, look, I don't have that problem because I know that most of them don't know their
	lies and they've just been indoctrinated.
	So when you're ignorant and indoctrinated, I'm not going to let you get angry.
	The ones I have to deal with every single day are the ones who know they're lying, like Claire McCaskill.
	But that's an amazing question.
	Stay on the line.
	Let's give Leo the war for America's soul.
	And I think it's Thursday.
	Antoinette, California!
	Happy Thursday, Dr. G!
	So, this is for your caller that just called you.
	We know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding so that we may know Him who is true.
	And we are in Him who is true.
	In His Son, Jesus Christ, He is the true God and eternal life.
	So, We... I'm a woman of faith as you, Dr. G, and a lot of people... I'm not a woman of faith.
	I am not a woman of faith.
	I may be modern, but I'm not a woman of faith.
	A man of faith, I apologize.
	But we do know that there is evil in this world, and definitely those deniers of God, you know, they're just going to keep spewing all this nonsense.
	But more to happier things.
	Last Thursday... You've got 40 seconds, my dear.
	We gave almost a dozen of the heart-shaped little boxes with the Bibles, little bracelets to all those young girls at the Planned Parenthood in Mission Viejo.
	Thank you, Dr. G. Just know that, yes, we are being Obliterated.
	The conservatives were being prosecuted but we're not going to give up because it's our duty to fight these globalists and it is our duty as American citizens that we do not give up and we fight and work for our country.
	Never give up, never give in, never give up, never give in.
	And it's not my birthday, but I can be like the King of England.
	I can have the official birthday and then the actual birthday.
	I will take two birthdays.
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	Welcome back, Hour 3 of the Deep Dive.
	We're in the midst of connecting to a friend across the pond who has some rather wise words.
	Analysis on a former KGB colonel who is in charge of the world's second most powerful nuclear nation, the Russian Federation.
	He posted an article behind his paywall and then turned it into a free video, an 11-minute video, which, considering the fact that he was born in the Soviet Union, is married to a Ukrainian, is Russian himself, comes from a place of some wisdom.
	The first thing he does is a rather amusing take on what Tucker Carlson had to say about How great Moscow is, especially when he went shopping for groceries and found this incredibly high-tech contraption that allowed you to rent a pushcart at the grocery store with a coin.
	Here's Constantin Kisin of Trigonometry's take on that little video.
	As promised, let's address the videos Tucker made from the Russian supermarket and the Russian metro.
	The average household income in Russia is less than $15,000, compared to $75,000 in America.
	As a result, the average Russian household spends more than a third of its income on food, compared to just 11% for the average American family.
	In other words, food is three times more expensive for the average Russian than for the average American.
	Moscow metro stations are indeed magnificent.
	But to compare them favorably with those in the West is akin to suggesting that Iraq under Saddam Hussein was better than America because Saddam's presidential palace was far more impressive than the White House.
	Authoritarian societies like the Soviet Union, which built the Moscow Metro, often pour great energy into grandiose monuments.
	It's truly impressive what you can do with a bunch of slave labor and no human rights.
	Let me not mock Tucker's response to Russia's spectacular achievements in the trolley return technology department.
	I distinctly remember my own wondrous reaction when first encountering this stunning coin-operated mechanism.
	It was a truly memorable moment, primarily because I first encountered it in 1995 here in the West, having come from Russia where shops did not have this trolley return mechanism.
	Mainly because shops in Russia at that time didn't even have shopping trolleys.
	Just before recording this video, I popped down to my local supermarket to make sure I hadn't missed anything, and I'm happy to confirm this magnificent contraption remains in place at the Tesco Express down the road from me.
	Perhaps Tucker might wish to consider immigrating to rural Kent in search of a better life.
	I think that's called an ellipsis, isn't it, when you say, I'm not going to do something, and then you go and do it.
	But it's done with such charm.
	He's the co-host of one of my truly my favorite podcasts.
	It's Trigonometry with Constantine Kissin and Frances Foster.
	Constantine, thank you for joining us live from the UK, where it's a little bit later than it is over here.
	No, thanks for having me Seb.
	We're having some technical issues but thanks for getting me in and it's good to chat to you as always.
	Perfect timing, perfect timing.
	Okay, so let me ask you.
	You were born in the Soviet Union.
	When was it and where was it that you first encountered the high-tech rent-a-trolley-with-a-coin technology?
	Was that in Scotland?
	Where was that?
	Well, in the UK, I think it probably would have been in England.
	But it's funny because, as you know, in the Soviet Union didn't even have shopping carts at all.
	Most shops didn't have anything in them at all.
	So growing up in 1990s Russia, I kind of coming over to the West, that was where I first encountered this magnificent advancement of technology.
	But yeah, it's interesting that that's just something that Tucker found so shocking.
	Yeah, not only that, I found it really outrageous that after the interview with Putin, he goes to something called the Global Government Summit.
	I mean, if anything sounds worse than the World Economic Forum, it's the Global Government Summit.
	And he says, there's no crime in Moscow.
	And the subways are really very clean subways that were built by You know, penal slaves and people who are working for, you know, the Stalinist system.
	We'll get to all of that in a second.
	But first, I'd love everybody to watch your video, go to your locals and to your substack and read your analysis.
	But let's do a little bit behind the curtain of your experience with Tucker Carlson, who had the number one show on Fox before he was You were on his show a couple of times, and a little bit, I haven't gotten your permission to say this, hopefully I won't, you know, give out any confidences, but before you went on his show a few months ago, you asked my advice about raising the issue of Ukraine.
	Will you explain what happened subsequently with his producer?
	So what happened was, at that time, I was invited on to talk about my speech at Oxford Union, which went viral around the world, and that's what he wanted to talk about.
	So I talked to you and a few other friends to see if this was a good opportunity to raise my disagreements with him about the way he'd been covering the war in Ukraine.
	Because, look, people are perfectly entitled to have all sorts of different views about it.
	But there were some segments that he was running, particularly about the alleged persecution of Christians in Ukraine, which was just... it was just nonsense.
	It was so misleading, completely full of fabrications.
	And I thought that, you know, as someone who had been on the show a couple of times by that point, you know, perhaps he'd be interested in my take.
	I wasn't, you know, expecting to persuade him or anything.
	So after my segment, which went very well, his producer messaged me saying, you know, congratulations, that was great, please come back soon.
	And I suggested that we talk about Ukraine the next time I come back.
	And I said, look, I'm happy to come back whenever you want and have a discussion about this.
	And it was very quickly shut down.
	I got a very strong sense that basically don't bring this up, otherwise you won't be coming back on the show again, which was disappointing because up until that point, you know, people liked some of Tucker's views and disliked some of his views as well.
	But, you know, during the summer of BLM, for example, I thought he was the funniest comedian on TV.
	So I wasn't somebody who was like a Tucker hater.
	It was disappointing to see that on that issue, he just wasn't interested in having a discussion
	or interested in what I think is important, which is having a debate about issues on which
	he had a very strong opinion, which was, in my opinion, not well informed.
	You said something very interesting in your video that you can find out on my feed, you
	can find on your feed at Constantine Kissin, both with a K, Constantine Kissin.
	You said, it's his show and I'm the guest.
	I have no right to demand that I get to talk about X, Y, and Z. But you said the fact that his producer said, it won't bode for you well, and you'll get into a very heated argument.
	After that reaction, you qualified whether or not Tucker Carlson is a journalist.
	What did you say?
	Well, I just felt that on that particular issue, he was not looking for the truth.
	He had an agenda, and that's what he was going to pursue.
	And look, as I say, he's entitled to do that.
	That's his show.
	He can do whatever he wants.
	And by the way, one of the criticisms about the article that I wrote, which people can read, as you said, at ConstantineKishin.com.
	My sub stack is there too.
	is I didn't have, I wasn't criticizing Tucker as a human being or a person.
	We often get into these arguments now where, oh, you can't say this about that person.
	I wasn't having a go at the person.
	I was just saying this was my experience.
	And actually later in the article, I do call Tucker intelligent and principled and courageous,
	which I do think on some issues he has been.
	But I think when it comes to Russia, as we perhaps can get into, there is a section of the right, particularly in the United States, that has, you know, it's adopting some of the characteristics of what it has been fighting for a long time, which is a kind of grievance Politics that leads you to side with your enemies, you know, the left will side with communist dictators in Venezuela and Cuba, and they used to love the Soviet Union.
	And now there are elements of the right that are increasingly attracted for reasons, you know, to some extent that have some merit, we can get into those, to these strongman leaders in countries like Russia, because they see them as the answer to the West decadence and decay.
	Which, you know, it's hard to deny that we've got problems in the West, and you and I have both been, you know, raising the alarm about those problems for a long time.
	But that does not mean that Vladimir Putin is the solution, and certainly doesn't mean that food is cheaper in Russia.
	That was another video that Tucker did that I just thought was incredibly dishonest.
	Food for the average Russian is actually three times more expensive.
	Of course, for an American like Tucker, food will seem cheaper in Russia than it is In the U.S., but that's because he's making U.S.
	bucks.
	Right, but it's a third, as you pointed out, it's a third of the wage of a Russian goes to food.
	We're talking to Constantin Kisin coming to us live from the U.K.
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	Oh yeah, just like one inch to your right.
	Okay, do the two-shot.
	Mic's up.
	I just did.
	So did you get hacked?
	Was your internet hacked?
	I hope not.
	I hope not, sir.
	But you haven't set anyone on me, have you?
	Well, I don't have anybody to set on you.
	As I said, I think me, Mark Levin, Andrew Clayton, I think we're like the three conservatives left in America who don't love Putin.
	So we'll have to start a new political party.
	Oh, Dennis Prager.
	Three of them are Jewish, and I'm 6% Jewish, so I don't know if that means something.
	So, yeah, what it means is the smart ones are on your side.
	The high IQ.
	All right.
	I want to unpack.
	I love this term and I hope, you know, this could be your next book or at least, you know, expansion of the last article.
	This phrase you used of the woke.
	What do you say?
	The woke of the right or the woke-ification of the right?
	The woke right.
	The woke right or the woke-ification of the right.
	Okay, so we'll talk about the woke right.
	We'll talk about this word from the video that you talk about, the resentment of conservatives.
	Decisions... Okay, I've got all these notes here.
	Okay, good, good, good.
	So what's the response been to the video you posted?
	90% positive, 10% negative.
	I mean, the people who are negative, I have to say, overwhelmingly are people who didn't watch it.
	They were like, oh, you criticized Tucker, we love Tucker, therefore you're wrong.
	Which you're going to get on the internet, but I actually have to say I was very surprised at how positive the reaction has been because I did expect a lot of pushback, you know.
	Yeah.
	Tucker's a popular guy with a big audience.
	People like his stuff.
	And as I say, you know, I, to some extent, I used to watch him and think, you know, this guy does good work on certain issues.
	So, um, yeah, very surprised.
	And actually, you know, the caliber of the people who've been reaching out to me and saying, well done and, Actually, you make some good points.
	It's been really kind of made me think, well, you know, I've done a good thing here.
	I'm talking about you, Seb, obviously.
	No, you're impressed with famous people.
	You'll get over that.
	You know what did it for me?
	Oh, Jeff, can you get me a cool shortcut of his Oxford speech for later in the hour?
	You know what made my heart flutter?
	Two things.
	My best friend.
	Who I didn't even know subscribed to my Substack, just texted me and said, dude, that article is the perfect article about Tucker.
	God bless you.
	And then a colleague from here, from the newsroom, he just randomly says, oh my gosh, that article on Substack, you know, who cares what the famous people think?
	That's what matters.
	It's not famous people, Seb.
	It's people that I respect.
	There's a big difference.
	Yeah, I know, I know.
	Okay, so you're off on Sunday, right?
	Yep.
	Wow, really appreciate you squeezing us in, buddy.
	No, thank you.
	We always seem to have some kind of issues when I'm doing your show.
	Either we turn up late or the internet doesn't work or anything.
	And I'm actually an incredibly punctual and reliable guy in every other context.
	I'll ask your wife to affirm that.
	She is not an objective witness, mate.
	Oh, right.
	OK, understood.
	How long is Francis in the US?
	He's going to be there for a couple of weeks, I think.
	He's in Austin.
	He's doing a comedy podcast or a comedy gig every night, so he's grinding hard.
	Wow, he must be like a happy puppy.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	All right, 19 seconds.
	Standby.
	Perfect.
	Thank you.
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	Okay, one more clip from your video that I think is I'm really not interested in the Tucker video qua interviewer as an interview.
	I'm annoyed by people thinking Putin is cool and a great leader, yes, but you drew this much larger geopolitical and philosophical conclusion and you referred, it's ironic because you and Francis have, I think you're fed up of it now, but you've built this amazing podcast dissecting the woke left okay what happened to the left and in your latest video about the Tucker interview you talk about the woke right and it's fascinating play clip
	But the real question is why?
	Why is the dissident right going woke?
	In Russia, we have a saying, Far from being the first of his kind, Tucker is, in fact, one more name to add to the long list of Westerners who have been seduced by the allure of an alternative to the failures and decadence of their own societies.
	These people are often described as useful idiots.
	While they are certainly useful, as with Tucker, they're often intelligent, principled, and courageous.
	Irish playwright George Bernard Shaw visited Moscow in 1931, where, like Tucker, he was granted a two-hour audience with Joseph Stalin, which he summed up with the words, One of Shaw's main contributions to the culture of his day was to advocate for and defend one's duty to be a skeptic.
	As Fintan O'Toole wrote brilliantly in an article you can find in the description of this video, George Bernard Shaw challenged his readers and audiences to burst bubbles of conventional wisdom on almost every issue imaginable.
	When Shaw's demolitions of received ideas provoked outrage, he courageously defended his intellectual independence.
	He abhorred cruelty and made mincemeat of propaganda.
	How could a man so principled, courageous, and eternally questioning end up siding with the most murderous dictator of his era?
	We have to remember, O'Toole writes, the power of wish fulfillment and the way that Russia became, for many Westerners, not a place, but an idea.
	Not a mere reality, but a fantasy.
	Just one comment from my friend Andrew Clavin.
	I sent him your video and he said, that's an excellent video, although George Bernard Shaw was a dreadful person all round.
	So you could debate that with our friend Drew.
	I need to ask you, How is it that whether it's George Bernard Shaw, whether it's Tucker or anybody else, these are clever people.
	You may have problems with your own government, but then to call the man responsible for 8 million killed in Ukraine, in the Holomodor, a gentleman from Georgia, Or Putin an inspiration for leadership because the Moscow subway is clean?
	As far as I'm concerned, that's not an analysis from an intelligent person.
	Where have we arrived at that such self-delusion seems so easy, Konstantin?
	Well, first of all, I think strength of emotion is the one thing that's really capable of overriding intelligence and ideology too. So in George Bernard Shaw's
	case, he went to the Soviet Union in 1931. So before those atrocities that happened,
	but it was clear by that point, Stalin was not a great guy. And I think the allure of those
	people, as I said, I think we talked about this a little bit before the commercial
	break, is that for left wing woke people or left wing radicals, the idea of communist
	societies was always appealing, because it seemed like an antidote to the failures that
	they perceived in their own societies.
	And you're increasingly starting to see this on the right.
	And it's not just Vladimir Putin that appeals with this strongman Deal with crime, deal with decadence, not allow LGBTQI whatever to infiltrate our society.
	It's a, you know, a guy called Nayib Bukele, who I think is a very different character in El Salvador, who has essentially reduced murder to such a rate that they went from being the most dangerous country in the world to the safest country in the Western Hemisphere in a few
	years. And the right is increasingly becoming interested in people like this, because it appeals
	given the context of, you know, you go out, as you well know, in your country in the United
	States, and you see lots of homelessness, lots of street crime. You know, in some parts of California,
	crime has essentially been decriminalized at certain levels, you can steal whatever
	the hell you want, up to a certain amount, and you can get away with it. So that sense that the West
	is failing and also, crucially, and something that you I'm sure will agree on, is...
	Increasingly, it seems quite difficult to challenge the status quo through the democratic process.
	I mean, look at what happened to President Trump, who, you know, you love.
	I agreed with him on fewer things than you, I think it's fair to say.
	But nonetheless, he was elected, just like Brexit here in the UK, for which I did not vote.
	But it was very clear to me that people did vote for that.
	And we had a right in a democracy to respect the will of the people.
	But that isn't what happened.
	He was thwarted at every turn, just like President Trump, lied about, the people who voted for him lied about, they were called all sorts of names under the sun.
	And ultimately, Donald Trump, like Brexit, didn't really have the impact that the people who voted for him wanted, because he wasn't allowed to do the things that he was elected to do.
	So if you are on the right, and you're seeing your country go in a direction you don't like, and you vote to change it, and then nothing happens, It is easier to see how some people in that situation will
	start to ask, well, what's the point in democracy?
	Yeah, that's exactly where I want to take this discussion, because that is the most important question.
	What happens then? What happens if President Trump is sent to prison?
	What happens if conservatives say, we need a Putin-like figure to fix all of it?
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	No, you're good.
	You're good.
	Sorry.
	No, that's fine.
	No, we're good. We're good, Jeff. Thank you.
	Working on it.
	Thank you.
	So, what happened in the Parliament in the last two days that was, like, outrageous?
	I saw What's-His-Face from Spiked Online with a very angry post on Instagram.
	Brendan.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So, the very short version of the story is they overturned centuries of precedent about the way that Parliament's supposed to work, because they were afraid that Labour politicians who wouldn't get the opportunity to vote for a ceasefire in the way that their constituents wanted, those people would be essentially under threat of violence.
	So the threat of violence from Islamists caused the British Parliament to not follow its own rules.
	So there's a procedure on voting which... I can explain the real thing to you if you want, but it'll take a little time.
	Okay, but basically it really does transparently boil down to the fact that they gave in to potential threats against their members of parliament from Islamists.
	Yes.
	Oh my giddy aunt.
	I mean, they will tell you a different story about how it's more complicated, but that's all bullshit.
	That's why they... And the Speaker in the House today basically said, look, I have a duty of care to all the members of Parliament.
	We've had a terrorist attack on Parliament before.
	We've had our colleagues murdered by terrorists in the past.
	So that's why I made the mistake that I did.
	So even though they're all pretending it's about some stupid parliamentary games, They actually even then acknowledge that it's not, and it's about the threat of terrorism.
	But when he says he made the mistake, is he admitting to what they did, or is he covering his ass?
	No, he's saying I shouldn't have changed the rules because they have rules.
	Oh, he did?
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah, he's admitted a mistake, but he won't admit the real cause of why openly.
	But now it's been done.
	They've removed this centuries-old precedent.
	Well, they didn't remove it.
	They didn't follow it in that instance.
	Got it.
	Got it.
	That's incredible.
	Is there anybody in Parliament who says this is complete garbage?
	Yeah, there's a few.
	Yeah, there's a few.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Interestingly, the SNP, which is the far left party, they were also very upset about it for reasons that will take a little while to explain.
	You mean the Scottish party?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	All right.
	Did you discuss this on trigonometry?
	Or are you going to?
	No, we haven't.
	No.
	Okay.
	One minute.
	I'm gonna write a piece for Barry about it after I do this.
	Uh-huh.
	I have a cut.
	It's 42 seconds long.
	Great.
	Ask her why she won't speak on the same platform as somebody who worked for President Trump.
	I'd be curious.
	All right.
	My pillow at the top, and then we'll save that cut for later.
	Okay.
	You always use me to have a go at it, to have a dig at people to your left, Seb.
	I love it.
	I don't have any friends on the left.
	I'm a patriot.
	She's not on the left.
	She's to your left.
	She pretends to be a centrist.
	She voted for Trump in the last election, from what I hear.
	I don't believe that.
	I don't believe that for a nanosecond.
	All right.
	20 seconds.
	Standby.
	Come on, Seb.
	You've got to have faith.
	I have faith, but not in people who worked where she worked.
	That's what she'd say about you.
	I know, but she's wrong.
	Only one of us can be right.
	That's the nature of truth.
	On the side of the U.S. Congress.
	Constitution, America first.
	All right, I'm gonna do a switcheroo and Eric will see if he can keep up with me.
	How can you be part of the fight?
	You don't need a national radio show or an international podcast, or you don't have to run for office.
	If you've got one of these blasted things, if you've got a cell phone, At least don't fund the people who hate our country with every call you make and every text you send.
	The big cell phone companies are woke.
	They donate millions of dollars every year to causes that aren't your values, like Planned Parenthood or Gun Control Foundation.
	There's only one conservative cell phone company in America.
	It's the one I use, Patriot Mobile.
	When Nancy Pelosi's illegal January 6th committee came after my phone records and the phone records of my wife and my children, I said, that's it.
	I told that cell phone provider to Stick it where the sun don't shine, and I switch to Patriot Mobile.
	You should today if you love America.
	They're on your side.
	You keep your old number, keep your old phone, or you can get an upgrade.
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	Alright, so I want to really delve into this in the next few weeks and months, Kissin,
	this idea that you've hatched, which I think is genius, of the woke-ification of the left,
	which is a deeper issue than just resentment.
	It's a denial of reality, which is what the woke is on.
	On the left, it's happening on the right.
	If you think Putin's a great guy, you're denying the fact that he's a KGB killer who came to power by blowing up Moscow apartment blocks and blaming the Chechens.
	That is a pretty severe denial of reality.
	However, I just want to make sure I understand the genesis of this workification of conservatism.
	The resentment to not allowing President Trump to be president after being elected, or to have the UK leave the European Union after the biggest vote in British history says Brexit must happen, that resentment or that distrust of the World Economic Forum or, you know, Zuckerberg and everybody else, That's real.
	That's not a denial of reality.
	It's where they go with that embitterment, correct?
	I mean, there is an underlying justification for the feeling of, okay, I voted and nothing changed.
	You're not saying that it's all invented.
	No, of course not.
	But I would argue to some extent that this is also true of the woke left.
	I mean, it's true that historically there's been a lot of racism in our countries.
	It's true that black people don't always get the same start in life as white people.
	And the woke left invented the idea of systemic racism to explain different outcomes from different groups.
	And there is an element of truth, a kernel of truth to a slew of allegations that are not true.
	The concerns you're talking about, yes, I agree that there is more to them, but I don't believe that the WF or the global elite are to blame for the fact that I've got potholes outside my house or the subway isn't clean or whatever, right?
	And so the reason, for example, I mean, one of the interesting things for me is As someone who travels to America and loves America and loves being there to see, you know, people say, oh, you know, California or New York's become like a third world country.
	Well, I grew up in a third world country and it was genuinely a lot cleaner and safer.
	But that isn't because of Klaus Schwab.
	That's because of political ideology and the shutting down of mental hospitals and mental asylum asylums in the US.
	Which means that your mentally ill people are not being helped and instead they're on the streets shooting up drugs and defecating on the sidewalk.
	That is not happening because we don't have a Vladimir Putin in charge.
	That's happening because of political decisions that were made by ideological and ideologues in government.
	And it's not even a money issue, which people often like to make it out to be.
	So, to me, the problem with the woke worldview on the left is it's incredibly conspiratorial.
	People always bang on about, you know, what's that favorite conspiracy about the right supposedly loves, that they always wheel out about Pizzagate.
	Oh, QAnon, Pizzagate, the pedophile rings, right.
	Yeah.
	Exactly, and they wheel that out, but no one ever talks about the left-wing conspiracies that are completely abundant.
	They couldn't believe, for example, that Donald Trump could be elected legitimately, so they fabricated the Russiagate conspiracy.
	They couldn't believe that half the country in this country voted for Brexit, so they fabricated a bunch of lies about that.
	And likewise, increasingly on the right, there is a conspiratorial worldview, in my opinion, which says that all of the problems of the world, all of the things that you don't like about what your government is doing, it's part of some global web, and it's the WF, and I personally don't see it as being that simple.
	And I think it creates a very simplistic worldview.
	it imbues it with this grievance and resentment which says well look there's nothing actually
	that we can do about this we can't organize at the local level i can't run for the school board
	i can't you know teach my kids the values of the west It's just, you know, my life is completely outside of my control because Klaus Schwab has got it over me.
	And, you know, democracy isn't working.
	Let's get Vladimir Putin types in to sort it out.
	Hold that thought.
	That's where we will progress next.
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	the long djt liner yes
	Okay.
	And I'm sending you an image, Eric.
	I'm going to mention my substack.
	If you could just use this image for the new article.
	Okay.
	I think you've got it.
	What was it?
	It was like three or four in the morning when we were smoking cigars in the hot tub, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that was fun.
	That was fun.
	I've still got the black bags under my eyes from that night.
	I'm not taking the responsibility for that.
	38.
	It's too good.
	It's too good.
	All right, then I'm going to do... Oh, can you test the Oxford Union clip?
	And the only thing that wokeness has to offer in exchange is to brainwash bright young minds like you to believe that you are victims, to believe that you have no agency, to believe that what you must do to improve the world is to complain, is to protest, is to throw soup on paintings.
	And we on this side of the house are not on this side of the house because we do not wish to improve the world.
	We sit on this side of the house because we know that the way to improve the world is to work, is to create, it is to build.
	Good, alright.
	I'm gonna... How long is that?
	How many seconds? 42.
	42.
	I might use that here.
	I might use that in E. Yeah.
	But you said you want to... What are we doing at the top here?
	Uh, the long liner.
	Oh, the long liner.
	Okay.
	And then you'll mention the Tucker article.
	I have a bit of a hard out soon-ish.
	Uh, it'll be 57.
	It'll be 14 minutes.
	Is that all right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, we'll be done just before the top of the hour.
	35 seconds.
	I'll use the Oxford speech in the E-block.
	Okay, 20 seconds.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Hello, everybody.
	This is your favorite president, Donald J. Trump.
	And I want to let you know that I'm also a big fan of Sebastian.
	So I know you listen to him, and he's got a great audience, good ratings, and all of those things.
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	We're back with our good friend Constantin Kissin, co-host of the Trigger-Nometry podcast, along with Francis Foster and the author of An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West.
	We're dissecting a new phenomena, wokeism, on the right.
	Read more about it at ConstantinKissin.com and on his substack.
	Constantine, I don't want to be... I don't have... I'm an optimist, so I don't want to be a Cassandra or paint the devil on the wall, but I'd like us to just do a little thought experiment.
	If you give in to this lack of critical thought, if you say, the guys that look hard out there, the tough leaders, are the models for the West, and the principles don't really matter that much because our sovereignty, our votes have been disregarded by the left, What happens then?
	How much of a threat is that to just the political ecosystem of an America or an Argentina or an Italy that chooses people who are bucking the trend and then get stymied?
	It's a big threat.
	This is why I don't actually know that this issue is ever going to get fixed from the right.
	People like you can try and persuade your fellow conservatives not to go off the deep end.
	But the people who can really solve this are the elites, are the left.
	I keep making this point to people.
	We have, as you do in the United States, a big problem with illegal immigration.
	People streaming over the border.
	We don't know who they are.
	We spend eight million pounds a day, which is a lot for our country, on hotels for illegal immigrants.
	And that issue isn't getting solved because The political class simply is unable to deal with it.
	And my point is, well, if you keep this up, if you keep this up and you keep calling everyone the Nazi and far-right and whatever, if you don't like the people who are talking about that issue now, you're really not going to like the people who come and talk about that issue five years or ten years from now.
	So, this is why I keep saying to my friends on the left and people in the center and anyone who's in anywhere remotely near government, You have to start listening to the will of the people.
	I know you don't like it.
	I know you think the common man is smelly and unpleasant and he hasn't got enough teeth and whatever.
	But you're going to have to get over yourself because those people have a vote just like you and they have a right to express their opinion.
	And if you don't listen to them, you're really not going to like what comes after.
	Well, I have to ask, and I'm not interested in any names.
	You've kind of blown up, not just with the podcast, but after your Oxford Union speech.
	I was there in December.
	I only got a million views in the first week.
	I think you're at like 40 billion or something.
	We'll play a little clip of that.
	You're being invited to all kinds of fancy seven-course dinners and meeting important people.
	Is anybody saying, yeah, we agree with you, we, the members of the elite, have to stop calling the people who elect us and pay the taxes smelly?
	Is anybody saying, yeah, we get it?
	Or are they just paying lip service?
	You know, it's actually much worse than that, in my experience, Seb.
	A lot of them get it.
	And they feel powerless to do anything about it.
	Because of just cowardice?
	Well, I'll give you an example.
	We were releasing an interview with the former Home Secretary, Soheila Brahman, here in the UK.
	One of, you know, Home Secretary is, give me the, what would that be in the US?
	Attorney General.
	It's like the Attorney General.
	Yeah.
	No, no, no.
	We have an Attorney General.
	I know, but you copied us.
	You copied us.
	The police fits under the Home Secretary.
	Attorney General.
	Okay, fine.
	But she's the person responsible for dealing with immigration and the police.
	Oh, let's say Department of Homeland Security.
	Yeah, that's what I thought.
	So that's her job.
	She was forced out of government for trying to deal with that issue.
	And it was her job to deal with that issue.
	And this is a conservative government.
	And we basically spent a good half an hour, that interview will come out next Wednesday, trying to get her to explain to us why she, a conservative Home Secretary, homeland security person equivalent, couldn't fix it. And
	basically, what she told us is the people around the cabinet table, her colleagues who are part of
	the Prime Minister's cabinet deciding the direction of the country, and the Prime Minister himself,
	care more about economic growth than they do about immigration and delivering the wishes of the
	people who keep voting to reduce it.
	And so it's just I think there is this belief among some people in the elite that growth is everything.
	Money is everything.
	And as long as we keep delivering on the economy then people are going to turn a blind eye to the fact that we're ignoring them.
	And I believe that's incorrect.
	I believe that they're going to find out that's incorrect at the election that's coming.
	The Conservative Party in this country is on course for one of its greatest defeats ever, and I don't see that changing over the next few months.
	So the problem is that there is a lot of paralysis because even within Conservative parties there are frankly too many people who are not interested in delivering on the things that people elected them to do.
	We're talking to Konstantin Kisin.
	You should watch the Oxford Union debate.
	It's stunning.
	It's 11 minutes of tour de force.
	We'll play a little clip before we say goodbye today.
	But please follow him right now at Konstantin Kisin and check out the Trigonometry podcast on YouTube.
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	Come in with the Oxford Union speech, guys.
	Thanks, Seb.
	Thank you.
	Are you ready for your 14-hour flight or whatever it is?
	Yeah, I'm just going to try and sleep.
	Can you sleep on planes?
	Well, I'm flying Qatar Airways and it's business class.
	It's supposed to be the best business class in the world.
	It is.
	I think I will.
	It is.
	You'll have like this private whole carriage to yourself.
	It'll be like the Orient Express.
	Sounds good to me.
	The first time you do stuff like that, you get a buzz out of it.
	By the third time, you're like, oh, I can't be bothered.
	No, but the trouble is, the first time, I did it first with Secretary Cohen.
	I was invited to UAE for a big defense thing.
	And for some reason, I was a nobody.
	I was like just some national security guy in the private sector.
	I was at a think tank.
	And they flew me business class to UAE.
	And you go, oh.
	This is how the other half live.
	And you say, I better not get used to this.
	That's not good.
	You've got used to it now, Seb.
	Is there another kind of class? There's two conclusions you can draw in that moment.
	A. I better not get used to this or B. I better make enough money that I get used to this.
	That's the American way.
	That's the one I'm going for.
	You're already an honorary American.
	If you get that, then you get that.
	You get that.
	All right, stand by.
	Coming in with Oxford.
	Yeah, come with Oxford and then I'm going to mention the book very quickly.
	And the only thing that we're going to do is we're going to take a look at the book.
	The only thing that wokeness has to offer in exchange is to brainwash bright young minds
	like you to believe that you are victims, to believe that you have no agency, to believe
	that what you must do to improve the world is to complain, is to protest, is to throw
	soup on paintings.
	Thank you.
	And we on this side of the house are not on this side of the house because we do not wish to improve the world.
	We sit on this side of the house because we know that the way to improve the world is to work, is to create, it is to build.
	It's so flipping good, that Oxford speech.
	I have just retweeted it.
	That's the top of my ex-feed right now.
	Oh, I don't feel so bad.
	It's only 2.8 million views.
	That's not too bad.
	That's not too shabby.
	Watch that.
	It's at the top of my feed.
	And then check out mine as well.
	Constantine, you've been a complete gent.
	Thank you for joining us.
	I know you've got a long travel ahead of you this weekend.
	You've written this book, An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West.
	Everybody should read it.
	We've got literally two minutes left.
	Deep down, I know your protest, but I know it because, you know, I was there till three in the morning with the cigars, that you and Francis are conservatives.
	And there's some good news about the next generation.
	Turning towards us, and if I want to couch it in politically correct terms, being less woke.
	However, in America, it's the males.
	We're seeing a massive resurgence of men turning back to traditional values and the women going in the other direction.
	Where do you stand?
	Are you an optimist in the trend line or are we going to see a bifurcation by the sexes?
	Well, first of all, it's funny.
	When I spend time with conservatives, they all tell me I'm a conservative.
	When I spend time with liberals, not leftists, but liberals, they all tell me I'm a liberal.
	So I'm somewhere in that vicinity, I think.
	But I always think of myself as politically non-binary, as you know.
	In terms of the bifurcation, we are seeing the same thing here.
	By the way, I would be a little bit more careful and hesitant to say that young men are returning to traditional values.
	Just because they're not woke doesn't mean that they necessarily are conservative in the sense that you are.
	And there's elements of that whole thing, the Andrew Tate's of the world, that I think we should all be worried about, actually, including conservatives.
	30 seconds.
	Sorry?
	30 seconds.
	Yeah.
	There's a very talented young writer who I have write for my subset called Freya India, who's written very well about this in a recent piece.
	So I recommend people go and check that out.
	Because she breaks down this splitting of the Gen Z's very, very well.
	All right, Konstantin, we'll have some big news in the upcoming months about a tour here in the United States with a very famous individual who's also trying to save a Western civilization.
	In the meantime, watch Trigonometry.
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