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	♪♪♪ That there is a governor in Texas, Governor Abbott, who has politicized this issue of what's happening on the border.
	And it's not making people's lives safer.
	It's actually making it harder for law enforcement at the border to do their job.
	And so we've been very clear.
	We want to make sure we get something done at the border.
	That's why we've been having these conversations with Senate Republicans and Democrats for the past several weeks to come up with a bipartisan agreement I know politics is a dirty business.
	It's a filthy business.
	In fact, the governor is not interested in that.
	Governor Abbott is not interested in that.
	He wants to politicize an issue and he's not helping communities.
	He actually isn't.
	And he's actually putting Border Patrol agents in harm's way by doing what he's doing.
	I know politics is a dirty business.
	It's a filthy business.
	It's full of corrupt individuals.
	But there are issues and there are moments and there are people where you say, yeah,
	you know, it's not just about corruption and grifters and liars.
	It's about true evil.
	That statement there is from the woman who is the press secretary for the current incumbent in the White House, who's saying that the governor of Texas is endangering the lives of federal agents who are meant to secure the border.
	That's beyond politics.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	We have an amazing show for you today.
	Don't go anywhere for the next three hours.
	And then tonight I will be hosting for Eric Bolling on Newsmax at 8pm.
	You don't want to miss that either.
	But let's talk about, let's qualify what This regime is doing it's not just one person.
	It's just an outlier like Karine Jean-Pierre It's even the vice president Kamala Harris cut one listen to what she has to say In fact we have right now a proposal for 14 billion dollars so that we can put more resources to address this very situation and we hope and and and and are really trying to compel, in particular some of the
	Republicans in Congress, to participate in the solution.
	But sadly, you know, we want to fix it, they want to run on it.
	They want a political issue to run on in November.
	We want to fix it?
	It was fixed, Kamala Harris.
	We fixed it in the Trump administration.
	Especially after COVID, with Title 42 powers, the illegal immigrant influx into this country was down to a trickle.
	And then what did you do?
	Your senile boss, first day in office, started to reverse everything we had done to secure the national sovereignty of our nation.
	12,000 illegals in one day.
	That's never happened in American history.
	You did that.
	8 million illegals that we know of in the last three years.
	If you didn't hear it, we had Stephen Miller, the architect of the policy that kept America safe under the Trump administration, in studio for an hour last week.
	And I asked him, hey Stephen, what's the real number?
	Because 8 million are just the ones that we know of, that have been allowed into this nation illegally, against the Constitution, against the federal mandate, by the Biden administration.
	And he added it all up.
	He said, yeah, Seb, 40 million.
	40 million illegals.
	Now here is where it goes beyond politics and beyond just the usual graft and grift and corruption.
	And this is where the word evil is apposite, is relevant.
	These people know what they're doing.
	They know what reversing our policies means in real life.
	What does it mean to Americans?
	And what does it mean to the illegals?
	Well, let's start with the illegals.
	This is a form of slavery.
	These people aren't being sold in a slave market, but they become simply commodities.
	They scrimp and save between $10,000 and $15,000 to pay the coyotes to smuggle them across hundreds, sometimes thousands of miles, and then into America.
	They even have organized different color-coded wristbands the coyotes give them to put them into categories like chattel, like products.
	And of course, most of these people, they don't have the money.
	They don't have, you know, $10,000 burning a hole in their pocket.
	So what?
	They sign an I.O.U.
	with the cartels, with the crime organizations, who say, hey, don't worry about it.
	You've got a thousand bucks?
	Okay.
	Sign an I.O.U.
	to us for nine thousand.
	We'll smuggle you in.
	And then you'll just pay us every month.
	So that's a form of indentured servitude.
	If you want, you can call it slavery, because human beings are being handled as commodities.
	And beyond that, we have what?
	Well, we have what the coyotes do to these people.
	Not what I do, or conservatives, or officers of the Texas National Guard.
	Because the borders are open, because millions are being trafficked across our southern border, according to left-wing organizations like Human Rights Watch, like the UNHCR, the Human Rights Commission, Upwards of two-thirds of those being smuggled, of the women, of the girls, are sexually abused and raped.
	Now, to agree to that, to increase The number of illegals not only makes billions of dollars for the cartels, it results in the explosion of sexual assault and rape of women, of minors, of children.
	Let's not talk about minors.
	That's antiseptic.
	Children, young girls, young boys raped.
	But hey, If they grow up to survive to 18, if we amnesty them, they'll vote for us, right?
	If we give them citizenship, that's the real reason.
	That's why the word evil is so appropriate.
	Let's talk about Americans.
	And I don't just mean the kids kicked out of their school in New York because illegals had to be housed there.
	Or the hotels that are being destroyed because the Feds don't have anywhere to put all of the illegal immigrants that they're shipping across the nation.
	Let's talk about the 110,000 Americans who were killed by fentanyl and illicit drug poisoning and overdoses in just one year under the Biden regime.
	That's more Americans that were killed in every war since 1945.
	Do the math!
	Korea, Vietnam, Gulf 1, Afghanistan, Gulf 2, He added it all up.
	I did.
	It's 103,000 Americans in 70 years.
	More died in one year thanks to Biden, open borders, fentanyl.
	So if that's not evil, if opening our borders and knowingly, knowingly facilitating the smuggling, the rape, Of women, of children, the deaths of more than a hundred thousand Americans per year.
	I'm sorry, if that isn't evil, there is no such thing as evil.
	But that is what the left have become, and that is what they're lying to you every single day.
	It is not exaggeration.
	It is not hyperbole.
	The survival of the republic is the stake of the next election.
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	Yo, can you hear me Hey, buddy!
	What's going on, Dr. G?
	Living the dream, how about you?
	Likewise, just enjoying watching Never Trumpers' heads explode.
	I know, I know.
	Oh, Eric, can you make a buffer of the story of, that's in the rundown, the Reed, what's-his-face pulling his money?
	Uh, okay, give me a little bit. Oh yeah, that was national pulse. Where do we find you today?
	I'm in Florida.
	All right.
	Have you been traveling?
	Not this month yet, but I'm gonna be going out to Las Vegas next week.
	Oh, I just got back from Vegas.
	They're having the big, Turning Point is doing their big thing about getting the party ready for the general election.
	Oh good.
	The ballot chase stuff and all that kind of thing.
	Excellent.
	So we're going to go do some stories on that ahead of the RNC Winter Meetings.
	Nice.
	Now that we have a Republican nominee.
	Jeff, for Cut 4, I'm confused by, I'm confused by at Joy Reid calling President Trump Hitler again, especially when she has the most Hitler Youth haircut I've ever seen.
	And Hitler Youth is capital H capital Y.
	All right, we'll have fun with Matt.
	We'll play him the Scaramucci cut.
	We'll do Conway.
	Oh, play me cut three again, Eric.
	How can you educate the public that even Roe had restrictions on the third trimester?
	Not only that, but let's just remember that before the Dobbs decision, this was not an issue that was being debated about whether women were doing these things that people are now describing as possible or partial birth abortions.
	And I just think that it is meant to distract from the realities, which is this, and it's really basic and fundamental on one level.
	This is about taking freedoms away.
	The freedom to make decision about your own body.
	Okay.
	I'll use that in a second now.
	All right.
	PhD at the top.
	Then, um, I'll mention the, uh, Reid Hoffman and...
	...Mooch and Conway.
	You said PhD at the top?
	Yeah.
	Okay, and then cut six, and then...
	Cut seven or eight, McConaughey?
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	President Trump, that's the only way they think they can stop him.
	It's called lawfare.
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	We're going to break down what happened in Iowa, in New Hampshire with our Breitbart guest momentarily.
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	He lasted, what, nine days?
	Ten days in the Trump administration?
	He doesn't look too healthy.
	And what he's saying, that ain't too healthy either.
	Cut six.
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	Oh, she's hurting him.
	I mean, you know, you have to look at the case that she's making against him, and then you have to look at the exit polling on the voters that are saying they're not going to cross over to Donald Trump.
	And so she is hurting him.
	He knows she's hurting him.
	This is really hurting Donald Trump.
	He knows that, which is why he's so frustrated and why he's launching all these threats and the invective.
	I'm really a little confused there.
	That President Trump is in trouble because of Nikki Haley?
	I don't think so.
	Let's analyze with the man who knows best, the Washington Bureau Chief for Breitbart.com, Matt Boyle.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Dr. Jeek, pleasure to be here.
	Yeah, look, I mean, Scaramucci's just totally wrong there.
	The fact is, is that Donald Trump is going to be the Republican nominee.
	Nikki Haley has no pathway to the Republican nomination.
	Anyone who gives Nikki Haley money at this point, you're better, you get more use out of your money if you take cash out of the ATM, go crumple it up, Drop it in the toilet and then flush it down the toilet because it might actually help clean your toilet or something, right?
	Because giving money to make Nikki Haley is worse than flushing it down the toilet at this point.
	She will not be the Republican nominee.
	She will not win any states.
	At this stage, Nikki Haley has emerged as Joe Biden and the Democrat Party's 2024 presidential number one surrogate until such time as she ends her campaign.
	She is the top surrogate for Joe Biden and the Democrats going into this election.
	The fact is that she has no pathway to the presidency.
	She has no pathway to the Republican nomination.
	It's time for her to drop Yeah, it's quite stunning.
	And the fact that she refuses to do so is out of touch with reality.
	In fact, it makes me like Trump's nickname, Birdbrain, for her even more.
	Yeah, it's quite stunning.
	I think we've got the title for this segment, though, that Nikki Haley is Biden's top surrogate
	for the 2024 election.
	But the real person who should be worrying, who should be concerned, is Nikki Haley herself.
	So this is the news that broke this morning.
	The completely woke founder of Netflix, and I can tell you, I was at a graduation ceremony
	where he was the guest note speaker, Reid Hoffman, who's not only the funder of the
	E. Jean Carroll defamation case against President Trump, but also one of the key funders for
	Nikki Haley.
	He has cancelled all further funding of the Nikki Haley campaign.
	So here's two questions for you.
	That means Her campaign doesn't have long to survive.
	And then secondly, Matt Boyle, you're with Breitbart.
	Why is a renowned left-wing billionaire funding the Nikki Haley campaign?
	Well, look, he viewed it as a way to try to hurt Trump, right?
	And even he doesn't see a pathway forward for her anymore, so he's cutting off the money.
	And by the way, there are other Haley donors, to be fair to them.
	This is different than before Iowa and New Hampshire.
	Now that we've seen people vote in Iowa and New Hampshire, Trump has won both states in a romp, like a total blowout, landslide victory.
	Now, giving money to her at this point, you know, it's not like you're backing a long shot candidate or something like that who maybe has a chance, an outside chance.
	No.
	What you're doing now is you're flushing money down the toilet or you're lighting it on fire, right?
	Take a hundred dollar bill out of your wallet.
	And, you know, get a lighter or some matches and light it on fire.
	That's what giving money to Nikki Haley is like at this point, if you are one of these mega donors.
	And so I think that some of the smarter ones are starting to realize that maybe it's not a good idea to do that anymore, and they're starting to walk away.
	And as, you know, when she does a little fundraiser in New York next week, we'll see if anybody shows up, right?
	Like, there's supposed to be all these millionaires and billionaires there, so.
	Is the only possible, I mean beyond just ego, is the only possible scenario that makes any sense for her, is that she's staying in simply because she believes that the left is going to somehow neutralize the president with all these court cases or in some other fashion?
	Is she just waiting for something bad to happen to the man whose cabinet she actually served in, Matt?
	I don't even think that's what it is anymore.
	I don't even think they think that because right after election night on Tuesday night on CNN, I was watching, I watch CNN on election night just because I want to see what the enemy says, right?
	Like, so they literally did all these panels and segments where they walk through how the cases, none of them are going to court before the election.
	So they're in serious trouble, all of these legal cases against Trump.
	So I think what it is, and I've long thought this, is that what Nikki Haley's trying to do is on behalf of her donor class funders, like the Kochs, etc., extract as much as she can out of Trump in exchange for eventually leaving the race and stopping being a nuisance.
	They know she's going to lose, they're just continuing to back her because what they want to do is they want to extract as much as they can out of Trump.
	This is just moronic at this point though.
	And frankly, anybody who works for us should walk away now.
	Like, it's stupid that they're continuing this charade.
	Because it's one thing, again, before the Iowa caucuses, okay, fine.
	People ran their campaign, they lost.
	It is what it is.
	Before New Hampshire, fine.
	Now we've got a guy who has won both of them for the first time in decades.
	I don't think this has ever happened in modern history, where a Republican candidate in a contested race has won both New Hampshire and Iowa.
	He's gonna win South Carolina next.
	By the way, he's already won the Nevada caucuses, because there's nobody even competing against him in the Nevada caucuses.
	It was only DeSantis, but he's dropped out of the race.
	So, Haley's not even competing in Nevada, so he's got that one.
	And then, when Super Tuesday rolls around, if she tries to stick in past South Carolina, which she might, you never know.
	Depending on how nonsensical she continues, though I think she'll drop out before South Carolina.
	But the fact is that if she tried to go past it to Super Tuesday, most of those states are winner-take-all.
	She's gonna get knocked out that day.
	Yeah, interesting.
	Chiron, a banner on lower third on Fox right now.
	The RNC, the Republican National Committee, is debating, as we speak, Declaring President Trump the presumptive nominee.
	So even the swamp-laden Rhino RNCs realize the writing is on the wall.
	Iowa and New Hampshire, he is the nominee.
	We will continue with the Washington Bureau Chief of the Conservative Juggernaut that is Breitbart.com.
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	Next one.
	Play Carville again.
	you The next one play Carville again a five
	And there's a massive effort to normalize this You see the New York Times columns say, well, the Trump people have a case.
	You see the head of JPMorgan Chase, the largest bank in the United States, saying, well, they're right about some things.
	You see reporters with Jason Miller in the Fort Des Moines Hotel.
	Reminds me of a bunch of German reporters in some Munich bar in 1935 saying, hey, Goring, he was an entertaining guy, I tell you what, he had some great stories.
	Nothing is normal about this.
	At all.
	And you watched his speech last night?
	It was completely unhinged.
	And what I am obsessed with is stop treating him like he is a normal candidate.
	That this is some kind of Bob Dole, Mitt Romney.
	This is really not, Ari.
	I love somebody like Carville telling us that somebody else isn't normal.
	Pretty funny.
	I know.
	What was Pelosi talking about in 10 Jeff?
	Bye.
	About President Trump said what about January 6th?
	Um...
	I think when he said Nikki Haley at one point.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Play that one again, Eric.
	When you say he has a cognitive disorder, what do you mean?
	Well, how silly is it that he's saying that she is... Was that part of January 6th?
	Don't you think that that indicates something wrong here?
	And continued it.
	And just reinforced the message.
	And it's not only that.
	It's only that.
	The list of misrepresentations that he made is endless.
	But I don't want to talk about him.
	We don't agonize about him.
	We organize about getting out the vote to win the House, win the Senate, and win the White House.
	Titles.
	Chris and the monologue.
	Monologue.
	Yes, the right word for them is evil.
	Then Chris...
	What's a good title for it?
	The most un-woke... and always you have to put the title of the movie at the end of the title.
	If it fits.
	Yeah, people need to know.
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	Okay, we continue with the analysis of what's happened in just the last 14 days in American politics with somebody who, well, he's labeled as a conservative strategist on MSNBC.
	Not so much.
	Gotta get the reaction from our buddy Matt Boyle.
	This is George Conway talking about how worried President Trump is.
	Cut seven.
	People like Donald Trump know, know that they are not what they pretend to be.
	He talks about being a stable genius because he knows he is neither stable or a genius and he's been doing that for years.
	And he knows deep down that he's deteriorating under the pressure of the legal cases and as a result of his advanced age.
	Kudos to Nikki Haley for finally going after him in the way that he needs to go after him, the way that people need to go after him, including the Biden campaign in the fall.
	There's something a tad ironic, Matt, about George Conway talking about people who know they're not who they say they are, as he's on MSNBC with a chyron that reads, Conservative Attorney.
	And then he says, President Trump is cracking under the pressure.
	Well, here's somebody who really cracked under the pressure.
	His name is also George Conway, and this is when it was found out that his co-founder of the Lincoln Project, John Weaver, I didn't know John very well.
	I frankly only spoke to him a couple of times on the phone early on in the Lincoln Project.
	I don't even know what to say.
	It's just terrible.
	It leaves me speechless, frankly.
	All right.
	That's somebody crumbling under pressure.
	I gotta ask you, Matt, you follow these issues so closely.
	If, God willing, the right things happen, we do our part, President Trump is re-elected, he's the 47th, not just the 45th president, then these people disappear, hopefully, right?
	The Never Trumpers cease to be.
	The Lincoln Project, the people who protect pedophiles, they just disappear.
	Well, one would hope that they do, but they won't, because they'll always continue to have these donor class people out there that continue to fund them, and media people, etc.
	Right?
	Like, one of the things I'm working on right now, and this will be a big story on Breitbart probably this weekend, is a big deep dive about what the left and the radical, you know, all these radical lefty groups, and some of them are the Never Trumpers, etc., are planning in case Trump gets back into the White House.
	Like, they're already planning for their resistance, right?
	Like, and whatnot, for if and when he wins in November.
	They're doing everything they can to stop him right now for all this legal nonsense and the ballot challenges and all this stuff.
	And they know they're going to lose all that.
	Then the question is, can Biden withstand him?
	Or does Trump win the election?
	And then if Trump wins the election, they're not going to accept the results of the election.
	They're going to go right back into Russia, Russia, Russia, Mueller Report, Impeachment 1, Impeachment 2.
	I mean, they're at full-on war with Trump.
	I've never seen anything like this in terms of the organizational sophistication.
	And by the way, literally everybody on their side is using these talking points that are coming from these lefty groups.
	It's unbelievable.
	So, from the President of the United States on down, so the question is, can the right beat them?
	Uh, the right was caught off guard by it, I think, in 2017 and 2018 at the beginning of the Trump presidency.
	Once they finally got their footing at the end of 2019, then early 2020, we got hit with COVID, right?
	Like, and it just changed the whole, the whole freaking game, right?
	Like, so then the question now is, is that going into a second Trump term, is the right ready for this war with the left?
	Uh, that is very organized and, and you know, these never Trump types, they're going to be part of it too.
	They're going to be doing everything they can to stop Trump when that day comes.
	No, they're not going to go away.
	We're going to have to fight them every step of the way for the next 20 years.
	All right.
	Well, that's super exciting.
	When is that article about what the left is preparing to do?
	When is that coming out?
	We'll see.
	We'll see.
	I'm working on it.
	I've been writing it all day.
	So we'll see.
	Text it to me.
	Text it to me when it's out and we will push it out to everyone who follows me on social media and all of our listeners.
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	Jared Yanis.
	Can we get him?
	I know he's still at SHOT Show, but they've got a quiet media room where he could do the hit.
	Okay.
	You've got his details, right?
	I'll look.
	Okay.
	Title for Matt.
	What I said, the Nikki Haley is Biden's top surrogate for the 2024 election.
	You can block the lines.
	Thank you.
	Any links you want me to add to that subsec piece?
	That's a good point.
	I haven't published it yet, so... Let me see it on your screen at the top of the hour.
	Okay.
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	There's not enough time in the day for that.
	Three hours just isn't enough.
	Yesterday a couple of cuts we didn't get to.
	One was Charles Payne finally shutting up that incredibly irritating woman on the five.
	What is her name?
	What's that woman's name?
	Jessica Tarloff, who lies every time her lips are moving.
	And Charles Payne, he'd had enough.
	It's glorious.
	You know, Charles, you talked about the issues here and how immigration here is at the top, but it also is an economic issue, and it crosses all boundaries.
	And it is a weakness for President Biden and the Democrats.
	Dean Phillips talks about this on the trail, and he talks about how Democrats demean MAGA voters.
	He talked about it with me today, saying that, you know, it's just strange that they're talking about a group of voters like that.
	And I don't think it's narcissism.
	You've lived in New York long enough.
	You know it's maybe a New York thing.
	Someone punches you, you punch them back harder.
	That's the way I grew up in Harlem.
	Not if the country's at stake, right?
	He won.
	He became President of the United States with that same personality.
	Listen, I think it's worse with Biden calling MAGA.
	Biden's anger and vitriol and hatred for MAGA is far more worse than President Trump's individual battles with someone who crosses him.
	That is something that is really detrimental to this country.
	That the President of the United States despises half of the United States.
	President Biden, I said earlier today, just about a week ago, I had a segment coming up so I googled, Biden hates MAGA.
	Nothing but articles after articles after articles.
	He has expressed hatred for who's in the country.
	I was writing those articles.
	It doesn't matter!
	And it's not!
	Because the bottom line is he says it.
	He has vitriol for them.
	And so does MSNBC, and so does CNN, and so does the New York Times.
	They have vitriol for half of the nation.
	They don't look at them like fellow Americans, and it's unfortunate.
	They try to paint them as racist.
	All the things that they do to their fellow Americans who simply want a safe home, a safe community, for their children to have prosperity, they want the same thing!
	But they demean them all the time.
	That's why I think Phillips was so intriguing, because he went to a rally to find out for
	himself.
	And guess what?
	Golly, these are some pretty cool people.
	They're just like us.
	That's exactly what came to us.
	Oh, yes.
	And you've got to see that clip.
	We're going to post the video.
	Her face, he was on fire.
	God bless Charles Payne, Jessica Tarloff being read the right act.
	Right, let's go to your calls.
	You've got, oh my gosh, so many calls to get to.
	Let's start, let's stay on the topic of Nikki Haley.
	Let's go to Randy in Knoxville.
	Hey, good afternoon, Dr. Wilkinson.
	Are you on speakerphone, Randy?
	I'm on my little voice.
	Yeah, it's crap.
	Get off it and put the phone next to your head.
	Right, you're on live radio in front of three and a half million people.
	Go ahead, Randy.
	Still?
	No, no, you're still on some crappy speakerphone.
	Can you get on the phone line?
	Dr. Borca, I'm sorry, man.
	I gotta plug this.
	All right, stay on the line.
	Stay on the line.
	Fix it.
	Fix it.
	Let's go to Antoinette.
	Same topic.
	Nikki Haley.
	Hey, Dr. G. You know what?
	I am with Matt Boyle a thousand percent.
	Nikki Haley is a humongous distraction.
	And yes, I'm a woman.
	But you know what?
	You guys, as our alpha males in our lives, You guys, vice president needs to be a man.
	Our president is Trump.
	Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life.
	James chapter 1 verse 12.
	Dr. G, I'm so over us.
	I'm certain on a number of things as women.
	You know, we don't go out at those different Planned Parenthoods just to rally and fight that aspect to working to end abortion, but with God's love.
	You know, we as women, we're trying to inspire and change the attitudes of this next generation.
	Because guess what?
	Well, God bless you for everything you do with The Voice for the Voiceless.
	given and with his help and his love we're going to continue.
	Well God bless you for everything you do with the voice of the voiceless.
	I think you will be so happily surprised when you find out who President Trump has
	chosen for the Vice President and it is a man, it is a great patriot. But Randy has another idea of
	why Nikki Haley should stay in the race and I want to hear.
	Hopefully he's fixed his phone.
	Randy are you there?
	Yes sir.
	Good all right so why does Nikki Haley have to stay in the race I'm intrigued.
	When Trump first ran, when he was making fun of Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, John Kasich, shoving pancakes in his mouth and then asking for questions to be answered, all that stuff, that really tickled me, Dr. Gorka.
	You know, some people say they don't like Trump being mean.
	I thought it was hilarious.
	No, I enjoyed the primaries.
	The way he dealt with, you know, 16 other people on the stage was hilarious.
	So you're in it for the entertainment value, Randy?
	To a certain point.
	I think I like him having a punching bag.
	She wants to sit there and talk a bunch of junk to him.
	He hits back better than anybody else.
	He doesn't start it, but he finishes it.
	You know, there's also there's more than the entertainment value and apparently we're gonna talk.
	Oh, where did he go?
	There was a Nikki Haley supporter who was going to stay on the line.
	There's also the Showing up the rhinos for who they are aspect of all of this that I think must not be undervalued.
	I like the idea of, you know, the RNC saying, he's our guy, let's get to work, he's the nominee.
	But then we have this question of, okay, but we need to keep shining a light on the Republicans who are getting billionaires from the left to fund them.
	Who the establishment really is.
	So yeah, there are a couple of arguments out there.
	But at the end of the day, it's the left wing burning their money.
	It's the RINO establishment burning their money.
	We know who the nominee is going to be.
	Thank you, Randy.
	Good stuff.
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	disappointing Disappointing.
	Well, it's the same as leftists.
	They have no stamina.
	They do.
	They don't have any stamina.
	It's pathetic.
	Pathetic.
	Hmm.
	.
	All right.
	Conway, Conway, we're done.
	Oh, I want to play Cut 9 before we go to Brent.
	9 before Brent.
	Oh, yeah.
	Or actually, is that good for... That might be good for Hogan.
	No, we'll do Nancy with... Cut 10?
	Yeah, we'll stick with Cut 9 for now.
	9.
	Fine.
	Okay.
	Mm-hmm.
	One minute.
	Okay.
	Okay.
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	What shall we talk about next?
	Oh, Jeff, you had some kind of prank caller who was pretending to be a Nikki Haley supporter who says he's switching to Trump.
	Why didn't he hold on the line?
	Because they never do.
	I think he was pretending to be a Haley supporter.
	He was just coming to bash Trump and say he voted for Trump two times.
	It was kind of the script, but he can't take the name-calling anymore.
	Or the chaos.
	But why can't they, like, do they have no stamina?
	They can't hold the line for seven minutes?
	It makes me think it's the same people that were doing it for Ron DeSantis, because they always did the same thing.
	So now that DeSantis is out, they're just doing it for Haley.
	Oh, you poor, sad individual, whoever you are.
	Now go run down to the basement and give your mama her phone back.
	All right, before we go to Brent, our good buddy, we dug this clip up from 2007 when a Senator, Joe Biden, he didn't like Sanctuary Cities.
	No, really, it's not a deep fake.
	He said it.
	Play cut.
	Would you allow these cities to ignore the federal law regarding the reporting of illegal immigrants and, in fact, provide sanctuary to these immigrants?
	The reason the cities ignore the federal law is the fact that there is no funding at the federal level to provide for the kind of enforcement at the federal level you need.
	Pick up the New York Times today.
	There's a city not far across the river from my state that imposed similar sanctions.
	And what they found out is, as a consequence of that, Their city went in the dumpster.
	Stores started closing.
	Everything started to happen.
	And they changed the policy.
	Part of the problem is, you have to have a federal government that can enforce laws.
	This administration has been fundamentally derelict in not funding any of the requirements that are needed even to enforce the existing law.
	So, Senator Biden, yes or no, would you allow the cities to ignore the federal law?
	No.
	That's so weird.
	So, Sanctuary Cities were bad in 2007.
	Hmm.
	So strange.
	Let's go to Brent, Los Angeles.
	Has a classic reference for us.
	Royal Bows Great Thespian Gorka!
	At least I know what thespian stands for.
	Tell us about your thespian analogy, my friend.
	Well, we are truly living in biblical and Shakespearean times.
	And four centuries ago, when William Shakespeare had Henry V sentence and execute three treasonous nobles, he first had Henry deliver his righteous justifications and prophetic lines applicable to all murderous traitors.
	Henry V blasted the traitors with these brilliant words.
	You have conspired against our royal person, joined with an enemy proclaimed, and from his coffers received the golden earnest of our death, wherein you would have sold your king to slaughter, his princes and his peers to servitude, his subjects to oppression and contempt, and his whole kingdom into desolation.
	And may Shakespeare soon become a messenger and a muse for America's just and righteous extirpation of a poisoned democracy that promises only perfidity, predation, We need more Shakespeare on radio.
	Thank you, Brent.
	Next up, Ambassador David Friedman for an update on what's happening in the Middle East.
	Thanks for watching.
	I know Sebastian well.
	Listen to him.
	He's with us.
	We gotta use the newer one, Alex, the long one I recorded with President Trump at Mar-a-Lago.
	That one is fun, too.
	I know it's a little long as an intro, but I think it's probably the best line in history.
	Welcome back, dear friends.
	Hour two of America First.
	Where did that first hour go?
	Wow.
	No monologue now, because we have a very special guest, a man who Well, I think with two other people, maybe his boss, brought peace to the Middle East in a way we haven't seen in generations.
	He's the author of the inside story of how that was done.
	It's called Sledgehammer, how breaking with the past brought peace to the Middle East.
	The president's man in Jerusalem, the one, the only, Ambassador David Friedman.
	Ambassador, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you, Seb.
	Great to be with you again.
	All right, so I need an update on what's happening in the Middle East, then for you to put it into the perspective of what you, your colleagues, Jared, the President, Achieved, Jason and others, how that compares to today, what we're hearing about Biden's team behind closed doors trying to get Israel to stand down.
	We'll get to that in a second.
	But as we were discussing at the top of the hour in the break, I got to get your reaction as one of the most trusted members of the Trump administration.
	Just the last two weeks, the results of our former boss in Iowa and New Hampshire, pretty impressive, no?
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, they've been absolutely stunning.
	Unprecedented.
	And look, he is as much as he was the right man for the job in 2016, even more so today.
	I mean, people, you know, now that they've had four years or three years of Biden and they see how, you know, in just three years, our country domestically and abroad has just sunk.
	I mean, we're such a shell of what we were three years ago.
	People want him back and for good reason.
	You know, he was one of the most successful presidents in history.
	And so I'm not surprised.
	I think most people who follow politics are not surprised.
	He's very, very much what people want, not just his base.
	I think people want People want him because of what he'll do on the border and for the economy and to restore American strength and respect across the globe.
	I mean, he is very much, you know, the right man at the right time.
	And how significant is it that in a purple state like Iowa, we have a record success for the president, 31 point lead, then in New Hampshire, which on paper should be one of the toughest caucuses for the president, On top of the fact that Nikki Haley gets former Democrats to cross-register and vote for her, that he has the biggest, biggest victory by any margin, beating even Bernie Sanders' record, what does that bode for the future and for 2024 in your expectation?
	I think it bodes well, especially New Hampshire, because New Hampshire, I think, is more reflective, perhaps, of some of these swing states, although it's probably to the left of most.
	But look, he got, you know, a huge majority of the Republican votes.
	I mean, he won by 54 to 43, but his share of the Republican Party was massive, you know, over 70 percent.
	And again, you know, people, a lot of people, you know, as you saw on the news, a lot of people who voted for Nikki Haley really were just voting against Trump and intend to vote for Biden in the general.
	So, look, I don't think he could have asked for a better start.
	And I would expect that, you know, come the South Carolina primary, we should be moving to the general election campaign.
	Yeah.
	Let's talk about what I'm starting to consider, sadly, is perhaps a forgotten war.
	I sent a photograph to my colleague Eric, so I spent two days this week in Las Vegas
	at the SHOT Show, which is the biggest celebration of the Second Amendment in America.
	I think 70,000, 80,000 people this year.
	And I went to the most famous person there, an individual called Taran Butler.
	He's the individual who taught Keanu Reeves how to shoot in the John Wick movies.
	And I go to his booth, and this diminutive little woman who I recognize from Instagram,
	she jumps up and hugs me.
	And who is it?
	It's Julie Orne, who has just left her position in the IDF.
	She is banging the drum for Israel at SHOT Show, held up an Israeli flag.
	We got a photograph.
	She posted it on Instagram.
	And it kind of—it's like I wasn't expecting it, but then I thought, if there's anywhere
	that understands the importance of self-defense, of national sovereignty, it's going to be
	So, God bless you, Julie Orrin, for being there and for, you know, waving that flag.
	Are you worried that we're not paying requisite attention More than a hundred days since the slaughter of the innocents to what's happening in the Middle East, Ambassador?
	You know, in some sense, I'm worrying that we're paying too much attention.
	You know, we are, I think, insinuating ourselves into this war.
	When I say we, I'm really speaking about America and the Biden administration.
	insinuating ourselves into this war in ways that are really not appropriate for another country.
	I mean, Israel is fighting for its very existence. It's fighting against the most barbaric and
	ruthless army, you know, maybe since the Nazis. And it has no margin of error. And, you know,
	every now and then Biden will make a comment about, you know, indiscriminate bombing,
	which is absolutely not true. And then he'll start talking about, you know, shifting Israel
	to a low intensity combat mode, which neither he nor, you know, Blinken nor Sullivan are qualified
	to even discuss what, you know, what's when it might be appropriate to engage in low intensity
	I'm not even sure what that means.
	And then, you know, a couple of days ago you had Israel lost more than 10% of the soldiers it's lost over the last 110 days in one moment, in just a split second, because they were laying explosives by hand at an abandoned building and it got hit by an RPG and it triggered a chain reaction and the building collapsed.
	Why wouldn't they be taking that out from the air?
	I mean, if not for the fact that they're being pressured, to use, you know, more, you know, more primitive means.
	I don't like that.
	I think, you know, the Israelis know how to fight, let them fight.
	And by the way, you know, not that anybody will give Israel credit for anything on college campuses or, you know, outside of the United States.
	But you know, there are people that keep track of the ratio of civilian losses to military losses.
	You know, how many civilians die as a function of how many terrorists do you kill?
	The number in this battle is setting records for modern warfare.
	It is lower than anybody has ever seen.
	It is creating a methodology to, you know, to anti-terror warfare that, you know, people are going to end up copying.
	So Israel is just not getting a fair shake here.
	And, you know, the college campuses are aflame with anti-Semitism.
	And the Biden administration, because, you know, they're in an election year, and these are the people that typically vote Democratic, are only going to go so far.
	So it's hard.
	Imagine this poor Israeli soldier that you met, or all the other Israelis who are fighting for their lives, and they watch the news, and they see at Harvard or Columbia, you know, or Cal Berkeley, they see the whole campus is full of people wearing keffiyehs, you know, yelling for the violent Destruction of the State of Israel.
	So, you know, we're not doing enough.
	You mentioned the Nazis, and that is, you know, who they are.
	The Hamas is just a jihadi version of the Nazis.
	Yet here, in the corporate mainstream media, that word is used for somebody else.
	As a Jewish American, I must get your reaction to Joy Reid and her latest diatribe.
	Cut for.
	Like Trump, Hitler was also viewed as a clown, a goon, who could be kept in line.
	And then there are the accommodations that the media makes with autocracy.
	In November 1922, the New York Times gave its readers their first glimpse of Hitler.
	It was a profile of a fascist leader's early rise in Bavaria, in Germany, that got a key point very wrong, asserting that, quote, Hitler's anti-Semitism was not so violent or genuine as it sounded.
	Before he rose to power, Hitler staged a coup known as the Beer Hall Putsch.
	It was a coup that failed.
	Sound familiar?
	So the man who recognized Jerusalem moved our embassy there for you to be able to work there.
	That man is the new Hitler ambassador.
	I mean, there's just no words to express my disgust with that piece.
	Not only is it 180 degrees wrong on Trump, Not only did he do all this great work in Israel, frankly, I think Israel had the four best years of its history under Trump, but he went beyond any other president in extending protections to Jewish people against anti-Semitism on college campuses that had never been done before.
	So, and of course, you know, leaving aside the fact that his grandchildren are Jewish and all the rest, it's also an insult to the Holocaust because If Trump is Hitler, then Hitler really wasn't that bad.
	Hitler was just sort of a, you know, a, you know, according to Jory Reid, a politician who came to power.
	No, no, no.
	He came to power expressly on the basis of Jew hatred.
	Jew hatred began in 1933 as Hitler came to power.
	And you could not, you know, a serious person could not identify a single similarity between Trump and Hitler.
	And in fact, I can name a hundred differences.
	Perhaps the greatest difference, and we actually turned that photograph into an item on our website, is the only serving president to ever go to the Temple Wall in Jerusalem.
	Thanks to our listeners.
	We put it on a t-shirt with a phrase in English and Hebrew, Our Fight.
	It is a civilizational war for Judeo-Christian civilization against the barbarians.
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	I'm super excited always when I hear the news that Salem, the best in the business, is adding a new fighter to the team.
	The latest addition to our podcast network is an individual who got a bit of a reputation for telling the truth, especially about the 2020 election.
	His name is Seth Hallhouse.
	And the podcast is Man in America.
	Seth, welcome to America First.
	It's an honor to be here, Sebastian.
	Thank you for having me.
	All right.
	So you're talking to about three and a half million people live across the nation from Texas to D.C.
	Who is Seth Holhouse and what have you done until you came to Salem?
	So most people, I guess, that were following President Trump on Twitter at that time maybe saw my face.
	Right after the election, when a video that we, my wife and I created called The Plot to Steal America was shared by him.
	And really what led into that, I'm sure like a lot of your listeners, we were watching, you know, the evening of 2020 election.
	We watched, we're seeing everything coming in.
	We had so much hope for what was happening.
	And then Fox News calls Arizona and we see what happens.
	Now I had, I had background in media.
	I worked with the Epoch Times years before.
	Uh, and spent a lot of my adult life trying to expose the horrors of communism and especially the infiltration of communism into our country.
	And so that fateful night on 2020, what we saw that as was a coup.
	It wasn't just a normal election.
	It wasn't some, some ballots that got misplaced.
	It wasn't just a broken water pipe.
	It was much more significant.
	And if you look at what's happening right now with the border in Texas, you look at the weaponization of the federal agencies.
	You can see that it was, it was a coup of our own government as a communist coup taking over the American government.
	And so we made a video, my wife and I, we didn't make any videos before that.
	We said, look, we got to expose this.
	So we went down to the basement.
	I built a studio, made this video called the plot to steal America after about three weeks of really hard work.
	And after going up online for a couple of weeks, president Trump ended up tweeting it.
	He pinned it to his profile.
	He uploaded it to his.
	Facebook page, his YouTube, because it was just, it was walking people through just what was happening with the 2020 election.
	At that time, as you probably remember, there was so much censorship.
	There's so many conflicting stories.
	So we painted the narrative of not just the election fraud, but the ties to the CCP, the ties to the COVID, how everything was rewritten.
	The voting was all rewritten, this mysterious disease that had ties to China, but also going back into history, looking at this long-term plan that the communists have to overthrow America and how
	Donald Trump was standing in the way of that plan. And that then, you know, so we put the video
	together and then it went so viral that we said, okay, let's just go ahead and make this a show.
	And so here I am today.
	Oh, we're losing you Stan, this.
	So he's here today.
	Man in America is the new podcast.
	He is Seth Holhouse.
	I think he's frozen.
	Is that picture frozen?
	If it has, do we have any audio connection to him?
	Are you there, Seth?
	All right.
	He needs to get better internet.
	If he's going to have a national podcast, he needs to have better internet.
	Talk to that Elon Musk guy.
	Maybe he can give him one of his Starlink connections.
	So Seth, people need to watch the original video of, you know, how they stole the election.
	They need to subscribe to your podcast right now, Man in America.
	But right now we've got like a minute, minute and a half left.
	What is, and you're talking to your patriots who love America, this is the most mega radio show out there, what is the biggest aspect of 2020 that even patriots may not adequately understand?
	Give us the one thing that is maybe missed too often.
	I think that it was a step towards global communism.
	2020, the election of 2020 wasn't about left versus right.
	It wasn't the fact that your neighbor with a Biden sign was the enemy or even Antifa.
	It was the fact that it was a step that America, as the sovereign nation of America with borders or constitution, stands in the way of a global communist system, a one world order that doesn't have any national borders.
	And that was why it was so significant.
	If you look at what's happened in this country since 2020, you can see that it's been a systematic dismantling of America because America, and most importantly, the patriots inside America with the constitution, with the second amendment, we are the greatest threat to a global communist order that there is.
	And they are trying everything they can do to come after us.
	And that's why 2020 was so significant.
	And that's why 2024 is even more significant because We're in the final stage of this plan, and it's either now or never for us to stand up and fight against this global system.
	Yeah, it's now or never.
	Everybody needs to find the podcast right now, Man in America, the latest addition to the Salem stable.
	Seth, where can people watch the original video on 2020?
	Where can they find that?
	So it's actually on the homepage of my website, maninamerica.com, and I still have a YouTube
	channel and that video was put up on YouTube before they made their election roll, so you
	can still see it on my YouTube channel.
	But the best place is maninamerica.com.
	All right, go right now, maninamerica.com.
	Welcome Seth, maninamerica.com, and that is the name of the new podcast.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, this is America First.
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	you you
	I might have to start having watch guests on on.
	Not a bad idea.
	Nobody here is into watches, right?
	I've got a couple of my own.
	Anybody else into watches?
	I carry a phone that has a time on it.
	Yeah, and when it dies, what are you going to do?
	Look at the sun?
	Yeah, if I don't have to be anywhere, what's the big deal?
	I wouldn't if I could afford it.
	It's expensive.
	Because you're in media, right?
	Because you don't need to be on time anywhere, right?
	If my phone's done, I'm screwed.
	You can buy nice watches for not too much money.
	I don't like it.
	They bother me.
	I don't like having stuff on my wrist.
	Really?
	It took me about a year to get used to my wedding ring.
	Wow.
	I don't like anything.
	Do you walk around the house naked?
	No.
	Okay, so clothes are okay.
	I'm not Joe Biden.
	I'm not Biden.
	You're not Cobra, Cobra, Cobra.
	Yeah.
	According to Alex.
	Joe Biden according to Alex Jones.
	Oh, I've got to send you a photograph.
	Super, super urgent.
	What, for this?
	Yes.
	Oh, Hogan's D. This is C, okay.
	Hogan's D. Hogan's D, yeah.
	Come on.
	What is wrong with these new bloody iPhones?
	Okay.
	Here we go.
	It's pretty bloody epic.
	Is it from Vegas?
	No.
	Oh.
	It's from a listener.
	Oh, okay.
	20 seconds.
	That's who we are.
	Who's the happiest of all warriors?
	That's a really good question.
	I mean, outside of President Trump, who just never, never, ever is brought down by anything they do to this man.
	It's absolutely stunning, but I think right up there you've got to have what?
	I think you have to have his buddy Michael Lindell.
	Is there a happier warrior outside of Mar-a-Lago than Michael Lindell?
	Whatever they do to him, he just comes back bouncing like a rubber ball.
	Even the FBI cornering him at a fast food drive-thru, trying to order him to hand over his phone.
	Because what?
	Because he's a conservative?
	Now Fox, the fake conservative network, have banned him.
	Not as a guest.
	As an advertiser.
	Their biggest advertiser.
	Why?
	Because he's Trump.
	He's all in.
	He's not a Nikki Haley Rhino sycophant like Paul Ryan on the board of Fox.
	And that's why they've banned him.
	It's just so wrong.
	Can I ask you to support Mike after what Fox did to him?
	Just go to his website right now and just buy one thing.
	Buy something for yourself.
	Treat yourself.
	Like one of the sheepskin line slipper pairs.
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	Or maybe a mattress topper or pet bed.
	Do we have the image of Titus?
	Titus is now just like three weeks older than this photograph.
	It's like somebody's stretching him.
	I go to work and he's like, he's already almost 40 pounds.
	What a cutie.
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	The best part, the most important part of the show is you, our dear listeners.
	Got a package today from, well, I'll just say Paul, okay?
	We've got a nice little note in the package.
	And it says, Dear Dr. Gorka, please accept these enameled lapel pins that prognosticate... Ooh, I like that.
	Big words.
	Prognosticate the 2024 election results.
	Respectfully, Paul.
	P.S.
	This is the coolest bit of the little note.
	President Trump has already received his.
	Ooh, pretty cool.
	And it's a little lapel pin, he gave me two of them, that says 45 to 47.
	I like that.
	45 to 47.
	I may have to wear that at CPAC.
	Okay, now that's very kind and I'm sure, you know, making a new lapel pin isn't easy, isn't cheap, but I think we get listener of the year award already.
	We have to announce it because of an individual Let's just say his name is Brad, who texted me.
	I think he got my number or DM'd me on social media, and then we started texting.
	And then he said, I'd like to make you something.
	And he knows I'm a cigar guy.
	And he made me like the Maggie-est, America first-iest, Humidor, the world has ever seen.
	And it's massive.
	He made this.
	He's not even a carpenter.
	This guy, I asked him when it arrived, who taught you?
	He said, oh, I just taught myself.
	It's absolutely beautiful.
	Seed aligned with pull-out drawers for the cigars.
	It's huge.
	And he asked me, what design would you like?
	And I said, can I send you one of the presidential seals from the White House?
	And he put it, he sank it in perfect.
	It's seamless to the lid of the humidor.
	I think I'm gonna have to surprise Boris.
	Jeff, what do you think?
	Do you think Boris will be jealous of my presidential seal humidor?
	Absolutely.
	You gotta surprise him with it.
	Pretty cool, right?
	Yeah.
	Now the only problem is I have to convince Katie that that humidor is now empty and I have to fill it.
	I have to buy a lot of cigars.
	Will you back me up, Jeff?
	Gotta have it filled.
	And a couple extra.
	You can't have a beautiful handmade humidor with the metal presidential seal in the lid if it's empty.
	It's just wrong.
	It's like the Feng Shui of the universe will be unbalanced.
	There will be problems in the force if it's not filled.
	What are we going to fill it with?
	I'll consult with Mr. G. We'll find out what his latest favorite is.
	And we'll have to get some cigars for the boys as well.
	But Brad, you are a gentleman, you are a scholar, you are a superb individual.
	Thank you, thank you, thank you.
	You have raised the bar for everyone else listening to America First.
	And we don't forget Roger.
	Roger, who regularly sends us all his cigars.
	You're a nice man as well.
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	All right.
	We're going to talk about Nancy Pelosi.
	Can I ruin your day with a bit of Nancy?
	Yeah.
	What's going on with Nancy?
	She's going after the president for having mental problems.
	And I've got some lovely clips to make fun of her.
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	I might do cut 3 if we have time.
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	Alright.
	Do we have guest confirmations for Newsmax?
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	America first.
	My next guest was complaining about how little sleep he got in the last few days.
	I was on Joe Piscopo's show at 9, I did Newsmax at 10, I did Newsmax at 12, then I've got a daily radio show, 3 to 6, and then I'm going to host Eric Bolling's show on Newsmax tonight at 8pm.
	So, let's have a competition.
	Who's working hardest to make America great again?
	It's tough, it's tough, because he's a real champion.
	He is a fighter for the truth and America, but I think we might have a friendly competition.
	Hogan Gidley, welcome back to America First!
	Dr. Gorka, thank you for having me on.
	And yes, it is a competition, but the fact is Whatever we do, whatever sleep we miss out on, we're doing it for the country.
	I think that's what's so key.
	Yeah, and the main thing is we can't ever defeat President Trump because three hours a night.
	I need at least four.
	I'm kind of semi-human with four.
	I felt my eyelids get a little heavy this morning on Newsmax, but you got to caffeinate me.
	All he has is those Coca-Cola's to keep him going and it's quite stunning.
	So yeah, we might get second and third place, but we know who's in pole position.
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	All right, let's get down to business.
	Let's talk about the left and what insane people like Nancy Pelosi are doing, who allegedly is Speaker Emerita.
	I think that's a completely made up title.
	She, okay, so she goes on television to say, not Biden, but President Trump has got cognitive issues.
	And if you watch this clip, I think it's clear who's got the cognitive issues.
	And I think it's Nancy.
	Cut 10.
	When you say he has a cognitive disorder, what do you mean?
	Well, how silly is it that he's saying that she is... Was that part of January 6th?
	Don't you think that that indicates something wrong here?
	I continued it and just reinforced the message.
	And it's not only that.
	The list of misrepresentations that he made is endless.
	But I don't want to talk about him.
	We don't agonize about him.
	We organize about getting out the vote to win the House, win the Senate, and win the White House.
	She's gone full Biden, Hogan.
	She can't talk.
	Well, in fairness, she is very smart in one area, Seb.
	And that's with the stock market.
	I mean, her gains, let's be clear, are record-setting, beating out every brokerage house on the planet because, you know, she's doing everything just off the top of her head.
	No insider information.
	No, no, no.
	It's just this, like, you know, incredible, record-breaking results of investment just by... I guess she has a dartboard and just kind of throws it at stock.
	Sure.
	Right?
	It's magic.
	Sure.
	It's magic.
	All right.
	Let's remind people of the cognitive power of the woman who is called the greatest strategist in the house.
	Just two clips.
	The next one is the creepiest and the scariest, especially the way she smiles as she's saying it.
	Cut 11.
	But to be clear, you're not taking any arrows out of your quiver.
	You're not ruling anything out.
	Good morning.
	Sunday morning.
	What is that?
	In the middle of an interview, Hogan?
	You're a communications guy.
	What on God's green earth was that?
	Yeah, it's bad.
	And what's interesting is Joe Biden is so problematic because he can't get through a simple sentence, obviously,
	even when he has the question in front of him from a reporter, the answer in front of him
	on a teleprompter, he stumbles figuratively, he stumbles,
	to try and say, hey, wait a minute, it's actually Donald Trump that has cognitive decline
	when she herself has problems completing sentences with even her best friends in the mainstream media,
	it shows you they have a serious problem on the left.
	As so many in their own party realize Joe Biden is horrible and should not be the nominee,
	many people in this country believe he's not gonna be president after 2024 either.
	I've saved the best for last.
	I don't know if you've seen this.
	I haven't seen this.
	I've seen the clip of Biden not remembering how many grandchildren he has.
	This, this is even worse.
	Cut 12.
	I have three in college who are engaged, four in college who are engaged in distance learning and they seem to be doing okay, but I don't think they think of it as a way of life.
	I think they want to get back to school.
	So that's three and I said three or four in college, three in grade school.
	I have two more.
	One more of them is also five in college with district learning and they're almost finished.
	It's coming up soon in May.
	Same thing with the younger ones.
	I have one who's graduated from college.
	He just finished his last coursework and the rest.
	That is a 42 second clip.
	She starts at the beginning saying three grandchildren in college.
	Then she says four and then she ends it with five.
	Hogan, what?
	Explain, please.
	Look, I couldn't explain Nancy Pelosi's position on policy.
	I couldn't explain her time as Speaker.
	I sure can't explain where she's trying to go with that sentence.
	42 seconds.
	After she's done, and I'm 42 seconds dumber having listened to that right there.
	She has so many problems.
	The Democrat Party has so many problems.
	And for them to try it out, Nancy Pelosi, to go back in the vault and the Wayback Machine and check out all the things she said in the past, this is what the Democrat Party has become.
	And with a leader like Joe Biden at the helm, I'm not surprised.
	This is what we've seen from their upper echelon that we were told in the mainstream media were the best strategists, the best campaigners, the best orators.
	And then Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden come out and you're like, is this really the best they have to offer?
	And sadly, it is.
	All right.
	We've got 10 seconds left.
	Given the big left wing backers Reid Hoffman have pulled out behind Nikki Haley, does she really go all the way to South Carolina?
	Yes or no, Hogan?
	I am from the state of South Carolina.
	I find it very difficult to believe, being down 35 points in your own home state and every statewide officer, 150 endorsements in that state for Donald Trump, I find it very hard to believe she actually goes through with Election Day there.
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	8pm Eastern on Newsmax.
	That's The Balance.
	With me in for my buddy Eric Bolling.
	And we'll have to talk about lunatics like this individual, James Carville, who's upping the ante, who's saying, just like Joy Reid, that he sees shades of autocracy and fascism coming from a man who worked for the Clintons.
	That's rather ripe.
	Cut five!
	And there's a massive effort to normalize this.
	You see the New York Times columns say, well, the Trump people have a case.
	You see the head of JPMorgan Chase, the largest bank in the United States, saying, well, they're right about some things.
	You see reporters with Jason Miller in the Fort Des Moines Hotel.
	Reminds me of a bunch of German reporters in some Munich bar in 1935 saying, hey, Goring, he was an entertaining guy, I tell you what, he had some great stories.
	Nothing is normal about this.
	At all.
	And you watched his speech last night?
	It was completely unhinged.
	And what I am obsessed with is stop treating him like he is a normal candidate.
	That this is some kind of Bob Dole, Mitt Romney.
	This is really not, Ari.
	You know me, I hate conspiracy theories that have no evidence to back them up and are just, you know, flights of fancy.
	But Jeff, let me ask you, you have to start thinking when the narrative changes overnight and, you know, Joy Reid, Carville, they all start talking about Hitler and Munich and the 1930s.
	It makes you think there's got to be some kind of central committee that issues the talking points, no?
	It's been going on for the last two months.
	Right.
	And it's just day in, day out.
	It's the only thing.
	That's basically, that's what the Biden campaign is.
	But they all shift at the same time.
	Oh, I know.
	It started a couple weeks before Christmas.
	It was just like that.
	And that's all they talk about.
	It's repeated over and over again.
	But where do you think it comes from?
	Is it from the campaign?
	From the White House?
	Or is it, do you remember that list?
	The journal list that was found to be sending out talking points?
	Is it journalists as a hive mind?
	What's your bet?
	It's coming from the campaign.
	It's gotta be.
	Because that's their only thing that they talk about.
	Right, right.
	And every time there's a new talking point, everybody... You know Joy Reid isn't writing anything.
	She's a moron, okay?
	And Carville, with his tank tops and his hoodies, he's just waiting for that email to plop on his computer in the morning.
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	Just when you thought you could forget about him, he's back, that diminutive little fascist Fauci.
	Remember?
	The man who said, I am science.
	But if they get up and really aim their bullets at Tony Fauci, well, people could recognize there's a person there, so it's easy to criticize.
	But they're really criticizing science.
	Because I represent science.
	That's dangerous.
	No, you represent the antithesis of science.
	Masks don't work.
	Now we found out that the six-foot distancing was just pulled out of thin air.
	You're a fraud, Fauci, and you have been since the 1980s.
	We'll see what happens on Capitol Hill, but with the news we had from Friday's Daily Caller, just a headline, mutant COVID-19 strain with 100 100% kill rate developed in China.
	Are we going to have a COVID-24 just to assist in the stealing of another election?
	Let's dig deeper on all of these issues with a good friend of the show.
	She's the co-host of something called The War Room with some chap with a big hairdo called Steve Bannon.
	Natalie Winters, welcome back to America First.
	Hi, thank you so much for having me for a one-on-one.
	I feel like it's been a few months, so I'm glad I'm back.
	It's been a while, it's been a while.
	Will you buy Bannon?
	I know you've got this new burgeoning empire, SheSoRight.co, where you have these amazing politically incorrect garments, hats, etc.
	Will you use some of your burgeoning profits to buy Bannon some hair product?
	Because I was on his show on Thursday and he looked a little Rapunzel-esque, let me just say.
	I thought you were going to say buy him some new clothes.
	You can't do anything about that.
	The double shirts with the three pens and the safari jacket.
	I've given up.
	I've given up.
	I've tried.
	Although I will say he always compliments me on my sartorial sense.
	So it's in there.
	It's in him.
	You just have to get it out.
	But remember, his hair used to be so much longer.
	I feel like it used to be as long as mine like during, I think it was kind of the tail end of COVID.
	So we got to be happy with what we're working with now because it's comparatively a lot better than it used to be.
	Just remind him CPAC soon and if he gets on that stage he's gotta look sharp, he's gotta look sharp.
	Okay, let's stop having fun and let's get down to some hardcore business.
	You came to the attention of patriots everywhere.
	If I remember my timing correctly, With your work on the Wuhan China virus at the National Pulse with my former Breitbart colleague Rahim Kassam.
	So let's begin there and then we'll move on to some other topics later in the hour.
	But first things first.
	It's quite stunning that there's nothing definitive on the origins of COVID-19 coming out of Capitol Hill Or even less so, out of the 17 agency intelligence community that is the biggest intelligence community in the world, funded by us, the US taxpayers.
	So, let's ignore them for a moment.
	You actually did the primary source research back then.
	What is it, if a Martian landed right now, Natalie, and asked you, tell me about COVID-19, what would your Sure, well, it's definitely a fun party trick to be known as the COVID origins anti-CCP girl.
	But you are right, that's where I sort of got my chops in investigative reporting.
	And the establishment loves to play this sort of narrative game where they say, well, because you don't have the evidence, necessarily because we're hiding it from you. Therefore,
	the thesis that you are pushing is incorrect. And that's sort of a, I would say, shoddy
	logic chain, because when you're dealing specifically with the Chinese Communist Party, who
	is, of course, running massive foreign influence operations, not just on the issue of the origins
	of COVID, but really everything from the way Americans perceive China to being able to buy farmland
	here in the United States. This is part of really an information warfare campaign to make sure
	that Americans never get access to the relevant information that you would need to really confirm
	the origins of COVID-19, whether it be a wet market or the Wuhan Institute of—
	virology and look no further than the fact that in the early days of COVID, which again,
	there's some subjectivity about what exactly that early days timeframe actually connotes,
	but the Wuhan Institute of Virology was wiping genomic sequences related to COVID-19
	from their website. So I would say the sort of elevator pitch to summarize all of my reporting
	really is, I think, evidenced from the deleted web pages, the affiliations with the Wuhan Institute
	of Virology and China's People's Liberation Army. And I think the lengths that not just big tech,
	federal government went to to cover up or at least not be forthright with their involvement financially and otherwise with the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
	And I would say look no further than the CIA whistleblower that we have we had who said that six of the seven investigators on that
	team who were supporting the lab leak theory allegedly received bribery payments to switch their
	findings.
	So there's obviously sort of a concerted effort both on the CCP front and the United States
	establishment front to block an investigation into the origins of COVID.
	And I think, too, it dovetails quite nicely with what we're seeing going on or what was
	going on at the World Economic Forum.
	And the sort of disease acts narrative, because you would think that if these people actually
	wanted to stop pandemics, they would care about getting to the bottom of COVID-19.
	But they're not.
	They don't actually care about it.
	And the same people who I would argue are responsible for COVID-19, right, the Peter Daszaks, the EcoHealth Alliances, these groups that funneled our taxpayer dollars to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, they're still championing
	international scientific and research collaboration with the Chinese Communist Party,
	which really makes no sense on the heels of COVID-19. So I think it's sort of from this
	incongruence of what people's reaction to COVID-19 should be, even the so-called experts who care
	about public health, that there really doesn't seem to be any, I think, truth to the narrative
	that we've been getting so far.
	My last point on this, I know you know I talk for a while, but is that it's very interesting
	because your show, War Room, my reporting, right, we've been talking on the, I would argue,
	the true side of the origins of COVID-19 for a very, very long time.
	And it seems to me now that every few months, the mainstream media and even the mainstream conservative news outlets are willing to, I would say, grant a little more leniency with how they cover the origins of COVID, right?
	People may recall, I believe it was during CPAC last year, that the Department of Energy came out with their limited assessment that COVID maybe came from a lab and that dominated the news cycle for a few days.
	That also conveniently coincided with the Chinese spy balloon incident.
	The Biden regime, of course, botched the handling of that.
	So I think sometimes, too, we have to be cognizant that the way that they sometimes roll out
	these COVID origin stories, at least from the White House perspective,
	they try to look like they're tough on China.
	And I think the origins of COVID story is something that isn't super controversial
	to most American people.
	So I think sometimes this is also weaponized in the information warfare
	on sort of the Biden messaging side of things, too.
	We'll talk about a US...
	involvement and funding, but now looking back, what is your best guess for how it was released?
	Was it the accidental release from the PLA Chinese military lab that they tried to cover up?
	How does it get out of the lab?
	Sure.
	I mean, I've always subscribed to the intentional release standpoint, viewpoint, which is what, you know, War Room has been talking about since really day one of the pandemic when the mainstream media was, funnily enough, downplaying it.
	But I think too, you have to contextualize broader and really the scope of what is the Chinese Communist Party's
	unrestricted warfare, right?
	If they're flying spy balloons and that's the tip of the iceberg, that's what we know.
	If they're waging campaigns to buy farmland here in the United States,
	waging very high level foreign influence operations, not just on Hunter Biden,
	but really on all of the American ruling class, all of these sort of what I call American princelings,
	right, don't miss the forest for the trees.
	With Hunter Biden, these are very, very targeted campaigns, right, when people say, oh, this candidate
	or this politician or this talking head is bought and paid for by China,
	you really, I think, do a disservice to how comprehensive the Chinese Communist Party's
	foreign influence ops are, right?
	haphazard approach. This is very calculated. You're talking about a multibillion dollar
	political warfare effort. So I think from that perspective, when you look at what their
	broader goal is, which I would argue, I know the prevailing academic discourse, and this
	is something that I was always, whenever I was in college, it was shoved down your throat
	that it used to be a unipolar world order, right? It was the United States. And now we're
	sort of gravitating towards a multipolar world order, which is coexistence between the United
	States and China with two separate spheres of influence.
	But I don't think that the Chinese Communist Party is happy with coexistence.
	They want to be the new United States, right?
	I always say the Great Replacement Theory is not about Americans or a certain race.
	It's about America as a whole, and the CCP wants to replace us.
	Look no further than the Belt and Road Initiative.
	And again, they prefer infiltration as opposed to invasion.
	I think they've learned the lesson of seeing what we did in Afghanistan and the blood and
	treasure that we spilled there.
	But I bring all that up when you really see Donald Trump, I would argue, as the most forceful blunt weapon that we have ever had to go up against the Chinese Communist Party and their efforts to sort of reorient the global world order.
	The timing of this pandemic just before the 2020 election is certainly curious.
	And like I said, all of the deleted web pages that I had uncovered Show that the PLA, that various researchers, members of the Chinese Communist Party, the Wuhan Institute of Virology does not hire non-CCP members.
	I obtained their job application form, and you have to be a member of the CCP to even apply.
	They have a communist committee there.
	But they really carry out the ends of the state.
	And when you see this bioweapon that was leveraged to really institute mass mail-in voting
	and severely influence the outcome of the 2020 election, I think that we have not had a fair adjudication of it.
	And again, they played the game where, oh, because we haven't given you all the facts,
	you can't come to a conclusion.
	But I think that logic chain works both ways.
	So I've always subscribed to the bioweapon mindset, but I don't think we will, frankly,
	and I know it's maybe dark to say, but I don't think we will ever see the evidence
	from the Chinese Communist Party, because who in America, who in Congress
	is actually gonna hold them accountable?
	They're all in on the influence-op side of things.
	She's so diplomatic, so polite.
	We haven't had a fair adjudication.
	We're talking to Natalie Winters.
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	Okay, so we've got your take on the release, the genesis of the Wuhan flu.
	We've got reports of new varieties being engineered right now.
	And of course, let's remind everyone that This is the only level four biological defense lab in China, which of course means it's run by the PLA, the People's Ironically Named Liberation Army, the Communist Red Army of China.
	But here's the other question regarding COVID-19.
	What on God's green earth is the US government doing Sending money through a cutout to this lab, which is in Communist China and is run by the Communist Red Army.
	What do we know about the monies that were sent there?
	Who was in charge of it?
	Who were the cutouts?
	And most important of all, Natalie, based upon all your research, why would America or American government officials Well, I would say it's par for the course.
	But that story that you bring up, right, the 100% lethality rate, you can't get much higher than that.
	That story is very interesting because if you keep reading, the way that they were able to engineer these viruses is by using what are called humanized mice models.
	Now, why that is so important and dovetails quite nicely with the latter half of your question is because those models, which are basically mice with lung-like systems that they use to really closely mimic the human lung system, were actually developed by an individual named Ralph Baric.
	Now, he's at UNC Chapel Hill.
	This is someone who is a staunch, staunch advocate of gain-of-function research.
	She's received millions, probably tens of millions of dollars
	in funding, not just from the NIH, but specifically from Anthony Fauci's former NIH agency,
	the NIAID.
	And a lot of these old studies that were published under the grant, it was the understanding the risk
	of bat coronavirus emergence.
	That's the EcoHealth Alliance grant that we're talking about,
	which I'll drill down on that in a second.
	But what's so interesting is that I read all of the papers that were published under this grant.
	So again, you can see it's very interesting.
	There are 30 some odd papers published under this grant.
	And the money that came from NIH, in the text, it wasn't just described as going to Peter Daszak, who was the head of EcoHealth Alliance, like you were saying, that New York nonprofit that was getting our taxpayer dollars.
	It was described as going to Peter Doshak and Sheer Jung Lee. So that's the
	Wuhan Institute of Virology's bat lady, the head of their Center for Emerging Infectious
	Diseases. So just from an analytical perspective, it's very interesting that the way the grants
	were described, that it was going, quite literally, to the Chinese Communist Party. Now, why I
	bring up the MICE models is because concurrently, in a lot of these papers, in the like,
	acknowledgments and thank you section, they thanked they being the Chinese Communist Party
	researchers, because all of this work was done in China. But
	It wasn't ever done in New York, it was done at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
	But they thanked Dr. Ralph Farrakh for, quote, giving them the humanized mice models.
	So they were only able to conduct this research specifically using the sort of reverse engineering, the genetic strains of viruses, and putting them kind of in the context of humans because of scientific advancement created by Ralph Baric that was funded by your taxpayer dollars.
	So it's not just that EcoHealth Alliance was giving them money.
	The whole entire kind of ecosystem in which they were operating and doing these studies, this research, was only a direct result of research that Anthony Fauci Jr. taxpayer
	dollars had funded.
	But this grant was started in 2014.
	Like I said, it was technically supposed to go to EcoHealth Alliance,
	but one of their partners, their main partner, was Sher Jung Lee.
	And I have always maintained that Peter, for instance, Peter Doshak's background is more in environmental ecology
	and just environmental science, not so much the hardcore manipulative gain-of-function research.
	Whereas the Wuhan Institute of Virology...
	It's a very high BSL.
	I think it's three facility, right?
	They're wearing the hazmat suit.
	So they were able to get more into the actual manipulation of viruses, really just using EcoHealth Alliance sort of as a sugar daddy for funding, right?
	And it's very interesting because Peter Daszak does not have a solid track record in terms of working on pandemics.
	I have obtained an audio clip of him.
	Ragging about how when he was in the White House and the Obama team, this was back during the Obama years, was asking him for how much money he needed for pandemic prevention.
	He just was like $7 billion.
	He just kind of made up a number.
	I also had obtained footage of him saying that he was working on, quote, killer viruses with the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
	So why the United States government would ever fund this?
	I mean, I have my, I would say, more nefarious angle to it, which has to do with the Chinese Communist Party foreign influence ops.
	But I also think, too, that the scientific community, you know, their high church is just doing scientific research, and they don't like that there's sort of a gain-of-function moratorium going on here in the United States.
	So, like everything the elite class does, they love to outsource it.
	So I think that was why they were so willing and eager to collaborate with China.
	And I don't think they view China as an existential threat.
	Like we do, and I would say moving forward, though we've seen some action on Capitol Hill to prohibit funds from going to gain-of-function research, that only has to do with federal funding.
	And I think we should be very concerned that money from, for example, the Cham Zuckerberg Initiative, who, by the way, has already started giving Ralph Baric hundreds of thousands of dollars, could start to be used to fund Which is arguably even more dangerous because then you really have no oversight into it to fund this risky, you know, pandemic prevention research.
	But conveniently, then the people who failed to prevent the pandemics are also the ones that seem to be profiting both power and financially.
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	All right.
	I'm going to ask you a slightly different question before we switch topics from Wuhan, although the next topic will be very heavily related to China as well.
	Um, explain!
	Why you're such an oddity, Natalie Winters, because there are people in their 40s and 50s, there's about six of them left in America, who are actual journalists.
	They're all friends of the show, like, you know, John Solomon and the like, and, you know, Sarah Carter and so forth.
	And along comes you, I don't know, like 19 or something at the time.
	And you start actually doing real reporting By reading primary sources, like going to the Wuhan website, explain how you became this OSINT, this Open Source Intelligence Analyst, and why it's seemingly nobody else in the media except a handful of our buddies actually does what you do.
	Is it so very, very hard?
	No, not at all.
	And I know I shouldn't say that I should make it seem like what I do is really difficult, but you know, people are so blessed and kind whenever I meet, you know, the War Room Posse at the events we do, they say, oh, you're so good at your job.
	And I always joke and say, well, well, thank you.
	But It's really not so much that I'm good at my job.
	It's that, like you were saying, everyone else in this space from the mainstream angle is really bad at their job.
	But it's not just incompetence.
	It's sort of like the same critique of the Biden regime.
	It's intentional.
	And a lot of my reporting has had to do is has shown that these mainstream media journalists have accepted trips from Chinese Communist Party influence groups in exchange for
	favorable coverage.
	But I think my aversion to op-ed commentary, I'd always wanted to get involved in conservative
	media, but I think op-ed commentary is inherently narcissistic.
	So I was like, you know what?
	I'm going to let the primary source documents speak for themselves and I guess makes my
	job easier writing the stories.
	But I really realized that that was what the hunger, the appetite was there for in terms of reading the stories.
	And it's really not that difficult.
	Again, I'm, like you alluded to, young.
	And, you know, even though I'm a Luddite, I've had computers and technology in the classroom since kindergarten, which is wild, and I'm very anti that.
	But conversely, you know, it's given me the ability when I'm, you know, blessed to be on the shows of people like yourself or work with Steve or Peter Navarro, You know, true China hawks who maybe don't, again no shade, but have I would say the technological acumen to get the deleted websites or to manipulate search algorithms to really footnote and evidence the very true statements that everyone is saying.
	I felt like it was my duty to sort of step in and provide that level of granularity.
	So you the Luddite are going to help the Cro-Magnon man that is Sebastian Gorka, Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon, right?
	So as we're banging rocks together, you're gonna very graciously deign to assist us, right?
	Well, you know what?
	I'll say it.
	The Wuhan Institute of Virology's website was there for you to write the story, but you didn't do it.
	So I was happy to fill in.
	And honestly, I've just also been blessed to work with the greatest people ever, not just intellectually, but Can you hear the speed of the furious backpedaling?
	I think I could charge a wind turbine with that backpedaling.
	But it is true.
	You did something that nobody... No, stop talking now, Winters.
	Just be quiet.
	So it is true.
	You did something that incredibly nobody else was doing.
	I mean, nobody was actually going to the Wuhan lab websites reading the resumes of the chief communist biolab technicians and quote-unquote scientists and drawing the connection.
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	Let's limit our analysis of perhaps the most corrupt political family in America today to just one angle, which is the angle you know so well, which is the China involvement.
	What is it that every American should know about Hunter Biden, the trips to China, the deals from China, the intelligence overlaps?
	What is the bare minimum, if we just focus on China, that every American voter should know?
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	Get back to work, Winters.
	Yes, back to the serious stuff.
	But no, it's sort of, I think there's a parallel, right, to the origins of COVID stuff, right?
	You're bombarded, you're overwhelmed with these foreign names and all this information that it's really hard to parse through.
	And I would argue that that and the, you know, 20 shady shell companies is sort of all by design, right?
	It's to keep us on our toes, to make it hard to piece this story together.
	And honestly, I think that the best way to sort of back into the Hunter Biden story And really where I think congressional Republicans have missed the mark on messaging is how these business deals that he pursued, specifically just with China, even leave Ukraine, leave all that out of it, really have, I would say, influenced, if not outright tainted, the policy outputs of the Biden regime.
	And specifically, most of the deals that he pursued had to do with energy.
	And I think if you look at the policy position that this White House is the most—America lasts to the point where you can't even reconcile it with actual policy, whether it's canceling the Keystone Pipeline, draining our strategic oil reserves, and calling Chinese Communist Party diplomats before they're doing it.
	I think it certainly begs the question of how these business deals have sort of influenced the White House's policies on this issue.
	And one of my, I was going to say favorite, but that's not the right word, my least favorite, I would say most damning stories I think about Hunter Biden has to do with CEFC, China, you guessed it, energy.
	But that's the firm that when you hear about the Biden family, though there are a lot, receiving millions of dollars from the CCP, this is kind of the main one, the primary entity.
	And I had obtained, again, deleted webpages from their old website, blog posts where authors like fellows at this think tank were sort of outlining the goals of CEFC China Energy.
	And oftentimes it's fun in the media, it's just this, you know, Chinese energy conglomerate, right?
	Sort of like nebulous, maybe it was doing energy deals.
	But no, the fellows, the think tanks, the leadership at this entity were writing blog posts
	strategizing how to wage quote warfare against the United States.
	And they drill down specifically in the scope of information warfare and influencing the mainstream media.
	They say that they want to quote, replace the United States as the world's leading country.
	They champion de-dollarization.
	All of these policy positions that can only be described as one word,
	and I would use the T word, I'd say it's treason for Americans to have collaborated with this entity.
	But I think that's sort of the reference, the frame through which I view a lot of these
	Hunter Biden business deals, but they're not even business deals, right?
	They're Hunter Biden influence operations.
	It's not like he was adding any really real value add to any of these companies.
	Yeah, no, absolutely.
	That's the one company if you just want to start pulling on a thread.
	It's that Communist Chinese Energy Company.
	That's where you begin.
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	It's only taken them, I don't know, a year to get around to it, but finally they're sending out subpoenas.
	Bobulinski is going to be subpoenaed, Hunter Biden's former colleague, Eric Schwerin, Hunter Biden himself.
	If you were in the room, if you were one of the counsels in these hearings, what would you say?
	What is the question that must be asked?
	What needs to be drilled down on?
	And are there any other witnesses that are missing from the list, Natalie?
	Well, you've always been, I feel like, Eric Schwerin's number one fan, number one hater.
	So I think he definitely needs to be called, because the texts show it.
	Even Hunter Biden's ex-wife's memoir says that he controlled all of their finances.
	So if there's anyone to get to him, I would say it would be him.
	But I think that the best strategy, really, to go after Hunter Biden is to go after the people who were around him from the financial perspective.
	So that's the Devin Archers, the Eric Schwerins of the world, the people who were sort
	of like floating in and out, Rob Walker is a perfect example of various Biden business
	deals, because I maintain that most of those people who were like in on the Biden family grift
	were really only there for one reason.
	They were useful idiots for the Chinese Communist Party.
	They wanted money.
	They wanted cash.
	And I really think that those witnesses would be the ones — not who would necessarily turn, because that connotes that, like, it's motivated by something other than the truth — but who would just be willing to, I think, actually play ball with congressional Republicans, because it's not some ideological or really wedded tie to the Biden family, because it shows that Hunter Biden eventually sort of screwed all of them over or out of money.
	So I think there is some level that they know that the Biden family is not a political machine that they necessarily want to be attached to.
	But I honestly, too, and this is, again, more from the reporting that I've done, but I would even take a step back.
	And honestly, I think the China Select Subcommittee really has been a failure, to be honest.
	I think 2010 called and they want their talking points back, the hearings that they have.
	Or just that, their hearings, there's no action that comes on the heels of them, in my humble opinion, besides strongly worded letters and investigations that never seem to materialize.
	If you want to get super granular, what I would do is, from the Foreign Agent Registration Act database, all of the American lobbying firms who worked on behalf of Chinese Communist Party-run entities, in some cases the Chinese Communist Party themselves, or the influence groups, or military proxies, I would subpoena all of the American lobbyists who worked for them and have them turn over the documents relevant to the work that they were doing for these companies, and particularly on the media outreach, specifically the China United States Exchange Foundation, the journalists that they were paying to take overseas to China in exchange for favorable coverage.
	Because conveniently, in those FARA filings, the names are omitted.
	They're not on there.
	So I think the first step to really be able to take down the CCP and actually go after them is to understand who their running dogs are here in the United States.
	And I think that the lobbying kind of thread to pull is very, very interesting
	because that is how the CCP is able to wage these influence campaigns at such an expedited rate
	and really find the Achilles heel of American society and target them with whatever the mode of influence is
	that they prefer.
	But I think that these lobbyists are the types to go after.
	Also, because like you know, the DC types are so scared that anytime they get a call from a reporter
	that's not part of the mainstream media because they're in this protected class of system, right?
	The swamp is not used to opposition that I think they would not turn,
	but I think they would show a little ankle, I would say.
	She may be a spring chicken, she may be a whippersnapper, but she knows how to use the phrase running dogs correctly
	as if we were back in the Cold War.
	We are in a new war, and it is happening every single day.
	China is on the march.
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