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Jan. 24, 2024 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Deep State tries to bribe Kari Lake

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	Well, look, I think the Haley campaign has to go through the stages of grief here.
	They didn't hit their mark in Iowa and New Hampshire, and they're heading into a really tough situation in her home state.
	But the pattern of these things is what we saw with Ron DeSantis, which is You know, you ease into that decision.
	You don't make it right away.
	And I think she's going to have... We've mulled over this before.
	There's a whole month before she gets to her home state.
	Trump will rack up more delegates in Nevada.
	And if I were Donald Trump tonight, I know you were asking me about Haley.
	I would write her right out of the script.
	I'd congratulate her and all the other candidates for participating, for their efforts, and I would say now it's on to the battle that matters, which is Biden, and just make it clear that she's not really in this anymore.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	That was David Axelrod, the man who, more than anyone else, shaped the Obama campaign.
	And behind the curtain was the eminence Gris of the Obama administration.
	And he, even he, is saying what?
	It's over, Nicky.
	It's over.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	I'm back a day early.
	Jeff, are you angry at me that I came home a day early?
	At this point, it's expected.
	If I don't do it, something's wrong, right?
	If I don't end my vacation early, if I don't come back from a trip to the biggest gun show in the world early, something's up, right?
	If you stay all the way, it's like you stayed too late.
	All right, well, I am home a little bit early.
	I came home on the red-eye this morning.
	I had many cigars in Vegas.
	I think you can hear it on my voice.
	It's going to be at least half an octave lower today.
	And we're going to have so much fun, I couldn't but come back and sit in front of the microphone to be with you, my dear friends here on America First.
	All right, breaking news just sent to me from... Well, you know who.
	Thank you, Tom.
	This is big, actually.
	I love just doing the talking stuff and the great guests, but sometimes, you know, there's some breaking news that is very, very cool.
	So this is, I don't know this name who posted it.
	Oh gosh, I'm going to be reading from somebody who works for MSNBC.
	All right, hold your horses.
	This is a tweet from Greg Bluestein.
	I just retweeted it.
	The Georgia GOP chairman and the RNC delegates have just officially called for Nikki Haley to drop out of the race.
	Here's their letter.
	OK, I'm going to read this to you guys.
	This is breaking news.
	Statement on behalf of Georgia's RNC delegation.
	Eric, what state is Nikki Haley from?
	I believe it's from one state to the north, the state of South Carolina.
	So this is a very important state, right next to South Carolina, and it is the RNC.
	The RNC.
	Quote, as Georgia's representatives to the Republican National Committee, we have closely followed the presidential campaign over the last year.
	In the past two weeks, the primary race has consolidated to two candidates.
	As we look at the map, and the path going forward, It is difficult to see how Ambassador Haley can secure the nomination.
	Republican voters have sent a clear message.
	They want to see the GOP unite around our eventual nominee, which is going to be President Donald Trump.
	We are united in our call to move to the general election phase of this campaign.
	Okay, they're done.
	They're finished with the primary.
	They are ready to move to the general election phase, so that the finite time, money, and other campaign resources can be focused on firing Joe Biden.
	This is really important.
	This isn't just, oh, you know, a race, just, you know, podium stump speeches, and then the caucus voting.
	Tens of millions.
	In fact, if you add in Ron DeSantis, hundreds of millions of dollars are now being wasted.
	Iowa, a purple state, has spoken.
	New Hampshire, which Steve Hilton correctly pointed out on Fox, was the worst primary state for President Trump.
	The worst!
	gave him an overwhelming historic victory.
	So anyone else is just literally burning the money of their donors.
	But if they're Democrat donors, Yeah.
	The statement continues from the Georgia DOP.
	With the recent Supreme Court decision permitting an uninterrupted flood of illegal immigration through our southern border, it appears the only way to stop terrorists who want to kill Americans from simply walking into our country is to win the 2024 election.
	Now this is interesting because, you know, statements from state parties Really get into this level of seriousness, especially a national security issue.
	And this, this GOP leadership is saying, we've got to stop the terrorists.
	They're flooding into the border.
	You heard what the Supreme Court said.
	Texas is not allowed to secure its border.
	They're not allowed to put up fences or barbed wire.
	And we'll talk about what Governor Abbott has done in response.
	It is pleasantly surprising, but the GOP is saying we've got to stop the terrorists.
	And Nikki Haley, you're just wasting our time and the money of your donors.
	They continue.
	It is time to put aside personal agendas and unite so we can save the country we all dearly love.
	Chairman Josh McCoon, National Committee man Jason Thompson, and National Committee woman Ginger Howard.
	I don't know.
	Jeff, can you remember when a state party committee after two primaries said to another candidate of another state, get out, stop.
	This is big, isn't it?
	That is.
	I'm curious why they did that.
	That is interesting to me.
	Yeah.
	Eric, can you remember something this kind of declarative after the second caucus?
	Absolutely not.
	This is fascinating stuff, guys.
	All right, we've got a packed show for you today.
	Don't forget the number.
	If you want to sound off on any story, the number 833-33-GORKA.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	You can react to that.
	You can react to the incredible scandal that's exploding.
	She told me several months ago, Daily Mail got hold of the audio, Carrie Lake being asked by another GOP leader in her state in Arizona to step aside the audio of an attempted bribe
	How much money, he asks, how much money do you need not to run for the Senate?
	You're too, he says, you're too close to Trump.
	That's the GOP in Arizona.
	We're going to play you part of that shocking audio.
	We're going to talk about the latest permutations of the race going forward after Iowa, after New York.
	We're going to talk about my experience in Vegas.
	Some very, very interesting, amazing patriots I met.
	We're going to have fun with Chris Sununu.
	We're going to talk about the exit polls coming out of New Hampshire.
	What do people really care about?
	How did we get this amazing victory in two purple states?
	As I mentioned, Greg Abbott... Well, I didn't really tell you what he's doing.
	Let me tease it now.
	Greg Abbott, for all his putative middle-of-the-road actions, is refusing to step down the Georgia National Guard.
	Is there going to be a standoff between the Feds and Texas?
	Are they going to try and send marshals?
	What's going to happen?
	Because I think the Texas National Guard is quite capable and quite large.
	All that and so much more here on America First.
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	I took the red-eye back from Vegas, I literally stepped in the door, and I get a text from who?
	Mike Gallagher, who's supposed to be live on radio, saying, can you come on the show right now?
	To talk about what?
	What happened in New Hampshire?
	No!
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	Alright, so who better to discuss what happened while I was away than a man who It's not a scalpel.
	It's like a razor-sharp katana of political analysis.
	He does it a little bit differently, and it's always superb.
	Whether it's cultural analysis, movie reviews, computer games, or just getting to the heart of the stinking deep state in Washington, D.C., the one, the only Razorfist!
	Welcome, dear friend!
	Glad to be back!
	Good to hear from you.
	So where shall we start?
	Let's have some fun with a scion of the Rhino Deep State called Chris Sununu who only got to be governor of New Hampshire because of his daddy.
	Here he was just a few weeks ago sitting next to Nikki Haley.
	This will be the first card I want to play you and then A rather delicious one from yesterday.
	Cut one!
	The Governor of New Hampshire.
	Why don't we try and do the best we can in every state and let the people decide which way this goes.
	I think I'm going to be strong in Iowa.
	I think I'm going to be strong in New Hampshire.
	I think we're going to be strong in South Carolina.
	And I think we're going to take it.
	And we're not settling for anything else.
	And you can be more direct about New Hampshire.
	Oh, it's an absolute win.
	No, it's a win and a reset button.
	If everyone that could vote in the primary comes out and votes, not only is she going to win in a landslide.
	And that's not an exaggeration.
	That was just a couple of weeks ago.
	It's an absolute win!
	And this was him after yesterday's result in his state.
	Cut to.
	Again, so the dynamics are always changing.
	For these elitists to say, oh, we're just going to stop right now as Nikki is surging.
	We're just going to stop and call it a day for the incumbent who effectively don't.
	That's not the process.
	And it's not fair to all the Republicans in 48 other states that have a vote, have a say.
	You guys don't pick the winner.
	Ronna doesn't.
	I sure as heck don't.
	The voters do.
	Um, is that just too delicious, Razer?
	Right?
	I love that.
	Like, first it's Trump.
	That's not even the most obvious moving goalpost, right?
	First it was Trump can't even get to 50%.
	Remember that from Iowa?
	Right.
	Then it was, well sure he's at 50, but still that means 50% of the party hates him, right?
	They gotta get the glass half-empty thing going.
	Now it's, well, as long as Nikki stays at a competitive, you know, above 40%, like, what, do you have those goalposts on roller skates?
	Where are we?
	Like, I feel like we literally need a landmarker just to see how far these people have retreated back from their previous arguments.
	This primary couldn't be a bigger waste of money if Disney were producing it, okay?
	It's ridiculous.
	It's over.
	And honestly, that may be the intent at this point, to exhaust the war chest and hurt Donald Trump.
	I think you know, I know.
	Yeah.
	Trump is opposed by two parties.
	Biden is only opposed by one.
	Unless, of course, you count the Grim Reaper.
	So, he's kind of got an innate advantage.
	So, you know, I just read out this breaking news from the Georgia GOP.
	You know, the GOP in Georgia just called for Nikki to step down.
	Said, we have to go to the election phase.
	We have our candidate.
	It's done.
	And I retweeted the letter from the Georgia GOP chairpeople.
	And I said, You're a bit confused here.
	The GOP can't stop her running.
	The only people who can stop Haley from running would be the DNC.
	If the Democrats told her to stop running, I mean, this is a woman whose donors, whose bundlers on cable TV openly admitted that they're proud of the Democrats who are giving money to Haley.
	How did we get here?
	Oh yeah, this is 2016.
	I told people heading into this, it was gonna be 2016 on crack, right?
	It was gonna be, like, between Democrats voting as Republicans and literally being interviewed by mainstream news cameras about this fact, just owning up to it, to changing primary rules at the last microsecond, you know, before Election Day.
	This primary has more rigging than the Spanish Armada, and you knew it was going to.
	Like, I've never seen A more rigged primary go more poorly for the people rigging it though.
	That's what kind of amazes me.
	It's just Trump is steamrolling anyways.
	Let's talk about this because this is fascinating.
	So a couple of things.
	Number one, I'm not a pollster but I know that Iowa is deeply purple.
	We have the greatest victory In that state, in a minus 30 wind chill snowstorm, we have more women in purple Iowa voting for Trump than guys.
	And then New Hampshire, that Steve Hilton said, was the worst primary state for the president.
	We have this result.
	What trend lines do we draw out of that for November?
	Because this isn't Texas.
	This isn't, you know, this is Iowa and New Hampshire.
	That's the most amazing thing about this.
	I think they may have sort of hoisted themselves by their own petard.
	By involving Democrat voters in the primary, they're kind of giving us an early preview of what the mainstream election, the general election, should look like in a lot of ways.
	And it will make vote tallies that may or may not be fortified by Facebook money.
	Uh, look a little bit more suspicious by comparison if we get to general election day and the result is not any up and up, right?
	Yeah.
	We're kind of getting an early preview here because we already know what it'll look like if lots of Democrats vote against Trump.
	It'll look a lot like this primary.
	Right, right.
	And of course he's using the left's favourite word for election fraud which is fortifying elections as they admitted in that Time article by Molly Bell where they said the secret plan of how we quote-unquote protected the 2020 election, that is the level of arrogance, it's not even hubris, it's arrogance that these people are demonstrating not just then but now in Republican primaries So much more to discuss.
	We've only just started.
	Follow this man, the superb YouTube channel, The Razorholic.
	Also on Twitter at RazorFist.
	Razor with a zero instead of an O. And he's the author of the Night Vale series, The Long Moonlight, and then we have The Death Mask, and a new graphic novel as well, which I just can't wait to get my hands on.
	We're talking to RazorFist.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Thank you.
	Jim in the mono.
	Jim, um...
	Haley is the left sock...
	Nikki Haley is the left sock cockpit for Jim.
	Um...
	Mm-hmm.
	And the monologue.
	Yeah.
	Why is Nikki Haley still running?
	Why is Nikki Haley still running?
	Alrighty.
	Alright, what are you working on now?
	What's the next video gonna be?
	Oh boy, I'm going to have to talk about the New Hampshire stuff and I'm going to have to talk about this big, gosh, the Arizona GOP chairman just resigned a few moments ago.
	Oh, he just resigned?
	Yep.
	Oh, good.
	Good, good, good.
	All right.
	Well, let's talk about that.
	Let's talk about that.
	I'm not going to play the whole audio.
	I'll probably put it down, but I'll tee it up and then we'll go to 15.
	Okay.
	She told me this months ago and I was like, if you got the goods, you got to get it out there.
	Yeah, it's and it's this guy was kind of nominated by the Rhinos to get rid of Kelly Ward and it was a whole thing Him taking over and so yeah, this is definitely coming to a head not that surprising Good good.
	Let's definitely talk about that How long does it take for you to make a video?
	Is it like an hour a minute?
	What's your research time?
	It takes more time to edit them, honestly, than to record them.
	It takes a couple of hours to put them together.
	But no, once I sit down and record, I mean, I have a little bullet point outline.
	It takes maybe an hour to put that together, but otherwise, yeah, most of the time is editing.
	And do you do everything yourself?
	All myself.
	Wow.
	All myself.
	On reviews, I have an editor.
	He does a great job, but that's on review videos.
	Right, right, right.
	Two minutes.
	And then when you're doing your rants, do you write a bullet down or do you have a bullet sheet in front of you?
	How do you do it?
	Yeah, I'll have just off to the side, like on my computer screen, I'll just have a bullet point, you know, one, two, three, generally between three and four of them, you know, whatever.
	They're usually maybe a joke here or there, but it just helps me.
	So I don't work well off of scripts and I can't read teleprompters.
	You have the best rants.
	I'm sorry, you just have the best rants.
	Thank you!
	I would say that goes to Dennis Miller.
	Of anybody who's alive today and on YouTube, I'm sorry, you have the best rants.
	Thank you.
	Alright, let's have something fun to come in with.
	Come in with?
	Biden mumbling?
	That could be fun.
	That's the shortest one.
	No, coming with the President, coming with COS7.
	Seven, alrighty.
	One minute.
	Thirty seconds.
	Mm-hmm.
	Thank you.
	Can we keep you for two more segments, Daniel?
	Yeah, sure.
	I want to.
	Thank you.
	It's never long enough.
	♪♪♪ ♪♪♪
	And one other thing, before Vivek comes... Do you see that, Paul?
	We had one hell of a night tonight. One other thing before Vivek comes. Do you see that,
	Paul? We're going to put it up. We have beaten Biden.
	You could almost say, who can't?
	Who the hell can't?
	The man can't put two sentences together.
	He can't find the stairs off a stage.
	Who can't?
	I'm sorry, Eric.
	I know I didn't prep this, but let's just, that's the president in Nashua and he can't even speak.
	Well, let's show this.
	This is Biden who literally, this is just brand new.
	He can't speak.
	Cut eight.
	Go teach Donald Trump a valuable lesson.
	Don't mess with the middle of America unless you want to get the benefit.
	Don't mess with the... And then, and then, um, raise a fist.
	The crowd cheers.
	Yes, I love it.
	I mean, they know, you know there's got to be an applause sign over there.
	It's hilarious.
	Probably the only person who can't read the applause sign is Biden himself.
	It's amazing.
	And the whole highlight reel, you almost don't want to see Biden go.
	You'll be robbed of those moments.
	Yeah, you will be robbed of that natural, you know, Keaton-esque humor.
	It's like Harold Lloyd, but even funnier.
	Okay, let's talk about something that's just broken.
	Thanks to you, we have the news.
	The scandal!
	I mentioned at the top of the show, Arizona head of the GOP who tried to bribe Carrie Lake has resigned.
	Why?
	Well, let's play a little of the audio that the Daily Mail got hold of from Mr. DeWitt.
	Let's just say there are people calling around saying, gosh, no, never repeat this.
	If you say no, don't.
	If you say, I got offered to buy out, don't.
	Yeah.
	Don't.
	Because then we lose our ability to get things done in the future.
	Here's my problem.
	Rather than just say, let's work with her.
	She's a great candidate.
	Because they don't own me.
	And it pisses me off.
	Yeah, I said I don't know about ownership.
	It's about control.
	It's about being on the team, like I said.
	They want to be on the team.
	You've got to be on the team like some cheap mobster from a crappy 80s movie.
	And then he says, he literally says, how much money will it take?
	And she says, you can't buy me.
	Razor, everybody needs to listen to the full nine minutes, don't they?
	If they want to understand how filthy the Republican Party establishment is, they have to listen to the whole nine minutes, correct?
	Oh yes, absolutely.
	I hear all the time from people, what's going on, because I'm from Arizona.
	I'm always hearing, what's going on with your elections?
	What's going on with the Republicans?
	What is wrong over there?
	Right there.
	Right there.
	Proof in practice.
	Honestly, that's what that is.
	And his statement in his resignation tried to babyface himself.
	By saying, well, I was betrayed by Carrie Lake recording the conversation.
	It was a private conversation between two friends and I have to question her motives and so on.
	And it was just like, criticizing Carrie Lake Recording conversations with an Arizona politician is like criticizing an exorcist for carrying a crucifix.
	Like, ask yourself one question.
	Is there a single Arizona politician you would trust enough not to record your conversations with?
	No.
	Like, I'd sooner let Joe Biden soap my back.
	It's ridiculous that we even have to say these things out loud, but obviously the Arizona political establishment Left, right, and center is corrupt to the bone, and nobody knows that more keenly than I. I've watched this go down.
	But one guy, you know, the GOP chairman for Arizona, Jeff DeWitt, resigning.
	That's not going to change anything, is it, Razorfist?
	No, not really.
	I mean, he was kind of a middle point.
	The previous Arizona GOP chairwoman was Kelly Ward, and she faced a lot of obstruction.
	Yeah, she was great.
	And wasn't popular with a lot of elements, especially the rhino elements of the party.
	And so Jeff DeWitt was kind of a halfway point.
	Oh, we'll get this kind of independent businessman.
	We can work with him.
	Clearly he's pliable.
	You can hear it in that recording right there.
	Uh, they'll try and replace him with someone probably even more amenable to their purposes.
	But the thing you didn't play there was the one that leapt out at me where he's saying, well, I gotta work with these powerful people back east.
	uh because of the blow up they might blow up my car right yes that yes if i if i if i know she says you should you should tell everyone about this thing they're trying to make you do to bribe me and he says oh oh oh oh no no no i can't do that because i turn the key on my ignition and my car would go I wanted to save more time to talk with you.
	That's why I cut the clip down short.
	But yes, it's on my Twitter feed.
	I'm sure it's on Razer's at RazerFist, the zero instead of the O. Listen, please, after the show, listen to all nine minutes.
	If you ever, you know, queried, what's this thing about rhinos and why is Gawker always complaining about the swamp?
	Listen to the full nine minutes.
	How bad is it going to get in the next 10 months?
	That's the next question for our good buddy RazerFist.
	Follow him right now, the Rageaholic channel on YouTube.
	This It's like a pop culture coverage website.
	They're pretty good.
	Yeah, I love the title they've got for your graphic novel.
	Home on the Rage.
	That's good.
	Yes!
	No, they're great.
	Have you got an image of the Ghost of the Badlands, Eric, that we can use?
	Is there a coverage?
	Oh yeah, that's coming up in the next several weeks here.
	We're right on stretch.
	So there's no cover available yet?
	Yeah, do you have the Indiegogo?
	Well, there is a cover.
	Yeah, there's definitely a cover.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Let me see if I can find it.
	I can send it to you.
	Thank you.
	you So, next few weeks?
	Yeah, I don't have it.
	In the next several weeks, he's right in the homestretch of inking and then he's going to be putting it together?
	Sending them out.
	$350,000.
	Not too shabby.
	Yeah, it blew up and we cut it off.
	We could have extended it.
	Probably would have made more.
	You made 700% of your goal.
	That's not too bad.
	Yeah, we really, really wanted to get it out.
	So we kind of cut off the campaign.
	When I try clicking on the link, it says this campaign is closed and the image doesn't show up anymore.
	And then you click on it and you click again and it shows up.
	How long did it take to raise that much?
	Oh, gosh.
	Less than a month.
	but make a screencap of that image.
	Okay, give me a second.
	How long did it take to raise that much?
	Oh gosh, less than a month.
	Wow.
	And where did you advertise it most often?
	On YouTube, the campaign, or on social media?
	Yeah, pretty much only YouTube.
	We appeared on a couple of podcasts.
	We really didn't promote it enough, honestly, but it still blew up because people just wanted it.
	That's great.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	What other fun cuts do we have?
	Oh, I'm going to do, um...
	Van Jones.
	We'll use that as a jumping off point, but I'll tee it up.
	Cut three.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	All right, we did the wit.
	Thank you.
	you We did Biden.
	We did number seven.
	We did Axelrod, right?
	Yeah, we did.
	We came in with that.
	Okay, good.
	All right.
	We have the other Trump cut.
	The long one.
	Yeah, I'll use that in the next hour.
	We'll use Van Jones here.
	Van Jones here.
	Cut three.
	All right.
	40 seconds.
	30 seconds.
	sounds of a boat in the fog music playing
	I I know Sebastian well.
	Listen to him.
	He's with us.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	One of my favorite liners.
	Welcome back, dear friends.
	Judy, Frank, Bill, the rest of the callers who fill the board, don't go anywhere.
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	I've been waiting long enough.
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	A man who worked in the Obama administration, who described himself as a proud communist, Van Jones, said this on CNN about the current incumbent.
	Cut three.
	If I were Biden, I would, I would stay hidden.
	And I'll tell you why.
	He doesn't inspire confidence.
	And he's not a great messenger for himself.
	He has done a tremendous job for this economy.
	Union members, union leaders are racking up win after win.
	They should be put forward.
	There are clean energy executives in red states that are putting people to work.
	There's something wrong with this campaign where we're somehow expecting Joe Biden, who frankly he did during the last campaign, to come out now and be Flash Gordon and save his own campaign.
	Joe Biden and Flash Gordon in the same sentence.
	I'm still trying to get my head around that.
	But to hear him, a dyed-in-the-wool commie, say, well, he hid during the last campaign, so he should hide this time.
	What are you expecting the next 10 months?
	Because we've got some people who are talking the truth, even Federman, shockingly, he's talking the truth about the border.
	And then we have Biden and his flunkies himself doubling down on the white supremacist message What's your prediction?
	Is Antifa coming back?
	Are they going to steal the election again?
	How bad will it get?
	Oh, they're all absolutely.
	Look, BLM always come around every election cycle, so we know they'll be somewhere in the mix.
	And Antifa always seem to come around every election cycle.
	Suspiciously, they always show up with prefabbed signage, with a U-Haul that's paid for by some nebulous... It's like all those Palestinian flags that appeared from nowhere.
	Who makes those flags in America?
	It's so weird.
	Well, maybe that's the rip-roaring Joe Biden economy that Van Jones was talking about right there.
	This economy is so bad when Bill and Hillary go on vacation they have to share a bed, for crying out loud.
	Like, you're kidding me with this.
	It's like a shopping trip Even three years ago was like a third of what it is now.
	And we're just talking buying normal groceries, you know?
	So in 15, they thought he was a joke.
	They thought there was some like promo for his golf courses.
	In 2020, they used COVID.
	So what are they going to do in this year?
	Well, it's what they're already doing.
	It's lawfare.
	100%.
	They're just going to try and keep him off of the ballot in enough states.
	Look, how did they fortify the 2020 election with vitamin C and D?
	They didn't have to go ahead and sweep across the country.
	It was just key Key districts that they absolutely had to have, electoral districts, key states, because that's the way the Electoral College works.
	It's not about winning the overall number.
	Democrats tend to have an advantage in that regard anyway.
	That will tend to work when you have isolated that elusive 200-year-old age demographic.
	That's a rough one.
	When you're emptying graveyards into the poll booth, you'll tend to have really, really high popular vote totals.
	But yeah, I think that's where it's going to go, honestly.
	And beyond that, so beyond lawfare and the weaponization of the judiciary and the FBI and, you know, Georgia prosecutors and New York judges, when you have the likes of Dan Bongino, a former Secret Service agent, when you've got a Democrat on my show like Alan Dershowitz, both worried for the safety of the president, and you think of Steve Scalise, you think of Justice Brett Kavanaugh, This could get out, what is it, Senator Thompson says in the Hunt for Red on October, this could get out of hand very, very quickly, right, Razor?
	I think so.
	And honestly, you're relying, if you're going to rely completely on the lawfare thing, you're relying on a lot of different judges.
	And what do they say about the best laid schemes?
	The more moving parts they have, the more likely they are to go awry.
	And when you're relying on lawfare, you're relying on a lot of different judges in a lot of different jurisdictions.
	Man, that's tough.
	That's not like what they did in 2020, where really all they did was slacken the rules.
	Yes.
	And then call the call the other guy running a Nazi.
	And so they would just they just trusted the public to be like, well, whatever I've got to do to stop Adolf Hitler reborn from entering the White House again.
	Gosh, I'll just I'll just do that.
	That's all they really had to do.
	It's not that simple.
	It's not that simple.
	There's way more moving parts this time.
	I honestly don't see that working, which is good news for Trump, but maybe bad news for his safety.
	I do worry about that.
	I've worried about that for a long while.
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	I am I am excited to talk about it.
	It's gonna be interesting.
	I like Kelly Ward.
	I did a few events with her.
	Do you like her?
	I like Kelly Ward a lot, but she had a lot of politics working against her in the party.
	So there's no way she could come back?
	I think it's possible, actually.
	Look, she had a very thankless job when she jumped up.
	She had a party that was broken.
	I mean, I remember after the 2018 election was kind of stolen with McSally and Sinema, all that the ACGOP did, this was pre-Kelly Ward, was they wrote like a strongly worded letter Like, it's nothing.
	Absolutely nothing.
	And it's like, that really typified the GOP's response prior to her.
	I liked her a lot, but yeah, she had a lot of repair work done, and she didn't have enough time to do it.
	Jeff, let's get Kelly on the show tomorrow.
	Kelly Ward.
	Yeah, she would be a good person to talk with.
	I've got her number.
	I'll give it to you.
	That's great.
	Alright, buddy.
	Superb.
	Okay, you have a good one.
	Thanks for having me on.
	And text me when we can get you on to talk about Badlands.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	That would be great.
	Yeah, good stuff.
	All right, take it easy and take it easy to your whole crew.
	Thanks, buddy.
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	Title for that?
	Uhhhhhh.
	Give me some ideas.
	The Kerry Lake thing probably gets the most eyeballs.
	Hasn't used in the last couple titles.
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	Uh, Kelly Lake scandal.
	Um, it's not takes a head.
	What do you call it?
	When, when, when, when, when, uh, when somebody's heads head rolls, Oh, um, uh, GOP head rolls in Kelly Lake bribery scandal.
	That makes sense, right?
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	Yeah.
	Mm-hmm.
	All righty.
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	All right, I'm texting with Kelly Ward.
	I think I might try and even get her on the show in the next hour.
	Wow, exciting, exciting, breaking news here on America First.
	Let's go to your calls.
	First one on the draw, line one from Brooklyn, the one, the only, Judy.
	Hello, Judy.
	Hi, how are you?
	Welcome back, welcome back.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, so, you know, just holding on.
	I didn't call for that, but I called for something else.
	But Van Jones, did someone tell him that electric cars, EV cars are breaking down left and right?
	They're not charging.
	They want to make everything electric, electrical.
	It's ridiculous.
	The economy is great.
	What a... I know, unbelievable, unbelievable.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Anything else?
	Yeah.
	Yes, yes.
	I'm concerned about something.
	But before that, Hayley is starting to get me so annoyed.
	She's reminding me more and more of this entitled, despicable Hillary.
	She reminds me of Hillary right now.
	But anyway, I'm concerned about AI.
	You know why?
	Because I'm afraid that, you know, they could use this in totally fake campaign videos against President Trump.
	And I'm very concerned about that.
	They did that to Roger Stone recently.
	They did that to Rogan.
	And how do you know?
	How do you know what's fake, what's not fake?
	Yeah, that's not the aspect of AI I'm concerned about because, you know, you'd know pretty soon that it wasn't real and there could be a, you know, a disclaimer from the... I mean, the fake robocall that they used against Biden allegedly in New Hampshire Within minutes, it was found out to be fake.
	But I thank you, Judy.
	I think we're going to have to have an hour on the threat of AI with one of the best experts out there.
	So we have to know more.
	We have to understand it better.
	But the overt use of fake videos, I'm not sure that's the angle.
	But thank you, my friend.
	Line 4, Frank, Los Angeles.
	Hey, Dr. G. Good to have you back.
	Good to be back.
	So, I hear, you know, Joe Biden and every other Democrat and every other left-wing talking head on the media say that Trump is a threat to our democracy.
	Right.
	And I tend to agree with them.
	And I think Trump should agree with them as well.
	And then explain to the people that we don't have a democracy.
	It's the Democrats who are trying to make a democracy where they have mob rule.
	Nicely done, yes!
	Where the majority can ride roughshod over the rights of the minority.
	Because we're not a democracy, we're a republic.
	That's what you mean, Frank, correct?
	Exactly.
	And it's the Democrats, you know, it's their democracy.
	They're the ones who are trying to make it a democracy.
	They're doing everything to get rid of the electoral college, everything else, you know, they're just pushing and pushing and pushing.
	Or as my buddy Rob Schmidt said in his monologue, what was it, on Monday night he said, after Iowa, he said about Rachel Maddow cutting the feeds to President Trump, said, I love democracy so much that I became a fascist!
	That's what Rachel Maddow and the rest of them are doing.
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	Music To tell you, it was very interesting because I said, wow, what a great victory.
	But then somebody ran up to the stage all dressed up nicely when it was at seven.
	But now I just walked up and it's at 14.
	But she ran up when it was seven.
	And, you know, we have to do what's good for our party.
	And she was up and I said, wow, she's doing like a speech like she won.
	She didn't win.
	She lost.
	And, you know, Last week, we had a little bit of a problem.
	And if you remember, Ron was very upset because she ran up and she pretended she won Iowa.
	And I looked around, I said, didn't she come in third?
	Yeah, she came in third.
	She's a little bit confused that Nikki Haley.
	Third isn't first and second isn't first either.
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	You know what's going to happen is that the Liberals are going to run wild that week while we're all gone.
	What if the Chinese send a submarine to follow our cruise ship?
	Well, actually, did you hear that bit?
	So we didn't get to talk on The Morning Answer this week.
	You were out traveling, which we missed you.
	But we have had some fun at Grant Stinchfield and I talking about the cruise.
	And we said, what if we have like the bird's eye view of Russia trying to repossess Alaska?
	Because Vladimir Putin this week said that there was a problem with the agreement and he wanted to take all of his Russian empire back, including Alaska.
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	Okay, so much to discuss.
	I've got a funny story from the LA Times, but let's talk about the news.
	It's the reason I came home a day early on the red-eye to be back in studio.
	So much happening.
	Since when does somebody who's so not purple crush it in Iowa and then New Hampshire?
	This is big, isn't it, Jennifer?
	It's huge.
	And, you know, you're talking—we heard President Trump say, you know, first place, and somehow she's justifying third place is great when he's talking about Nikki Haley in grade school.
	I can always remember.
	First is worst, second's best, and third is the nerd with the big hairy chest.
	But in politics, first is never worse.
	First is all that matters in politics.
	And President Trump is making history this time around.
	And that's why when we talk about getting together on this cruise or when we're talking just about the situation with our conservative friends, what we're witnessing is the MAGA movement, and I think it's times 10 now.
	People are tired of the nonsense.
	They know that without President Trump, we are losing our country.
	And that's what you saw in Iowa.
	That's what you saw in New Hampshire.
	And when you realize that the bulk of the reason that Nikki Haley even got into the 40% is because she was supported by Democrats and independents, And those same Democrats are the ones who are throwing big money behind your campaign to create more chaos and to force President Trump and the Republican Party to spend more money instead of focusing on Joe Biden.
	Clearly the people have spoken.
	Yes, it's early, but there's been such a mandate.
	That there really isn't a need.
	There's no justification.
	There is no possible way that Nikki Haley becomes the nominee barring any sort of disaster.
	I mean, it's just, there's no path.
	And even Ronna McDaniel sees it when she comes out and says, Trump, Trump, Trump.
	You realize the writing's on the wall.
	It's time to go.
	Follow this lady at Jennifer Horn on social media, CRNtalk.com, co-host of The Morning Answer with our buddy Grant Stinchfield, AM870, AM590, The Answer.
	So, help me with this, because, you know, sometimes, I don't know if you have this, you're a radio professional, I've just been doing this for five years now, but You sometimes say, am I just too close to the issue?
	Am I, you know, absorbing it, inhaling it so much every day that maybe I'm just a little bit skewed in this, you know, self gaslighting?
	And then I go to Las Vegas three days ago and I go to the SHOT Show.
	And I shouldn't do this, I know, but I go to my hotel room And I turn on the television.
	I don't watch cable at home.
	I'll watch Newsmax, especially on Sunday nights.
	It's a great program.
	It's one of my favorites.
	It's a good one.
	But I turn on cable, and I couldn't find a conservative channel.
	So I watched the Rachel Maddow Show.
	Oh, I love doing that.
	Now, I don't do this.
	That's why Jeff gets paid danger money, okay?
	He watches that crap for me.
	And first, it's like this weird thing.
	It's Rachel Maddow's show, but she's not hosting it.
	It's Ragdoll, what's her name?
	It's Saki, right?
	It's Jen Saki.
	And then she's 30 minutes in and then she says, and next up we're going to analyze what's happening in New Hampshire with a very special guest, Rachel Maddow, which is kind of like... I know I ring into my show when you're guest hosting it, you know, but... But that's just fun.
	But that's just fun.
	I mean, it's like a giggle, right?
	This... And then she comes in on this crappy Skype from her basement, and it looks like there's Vaseline spread all over the camera.
	And I'm not joking.
	It was a glimpse into the heart of darkness.
	Because this is... What day is it today?
	So it's Monday night.
	I'm watching this.
	And she's talking about what happens if President Trump wins, Jennifer.
	And she talks about how Democrats will be put in camps.
	And I'm going, do you know what happened in Iowa?
	More women voted for President Trump than males in the state.
	New Hampshire, which is the riskiest caucus for President Trump, is just overwhelmingly wants him back.
	But the other side, Jen, They're worse than they ever were!
	There's no sense they have any connection with the average American's last three years.
	And everything that they say about him is stuff that the Democrat Party today is doing, including weaponizing the government against our opponents.
	President Trump never did that.
	He had the opportunity.
	In fact, I think people were disappointed to go after Hillary Clinton.
	He did not because he was playing by the political rules, but they don't extend that to him.
	And so you're right.
	Jen Psaki, Rachel Maddow, they're always a hoot to listen to everything that they say.
	But here's why I think people aren't buying it.
	You look at the demographics of people who have turned out to vote.
	As you mentioned in Iowa, one of the stats that it stuns me because people always say he has a problem with young people.
	He won young people in New Hampshire.
	He's winning minorities.
	The reason they're so scared and they're doing this because they know that he's on track to become president again because people have seen Democrat policies at work and they stink and they want something different.
	But this fear tactic That's all they have.
	Hasn't worked for them for three years, and it's like they have no idea that it hasn't worked, Jen.
	And they're tripling down.
	Exactly.
	Double, triple down.
	Because it's the fear tactic and it's abortion.
	That's all you're going to hear about for the next year.
	That's it.
	And so we just have to be ready to go with our policies, with a hopeful message for America instead of fear-mongering.
	Because that is truly all they have to throw at President Trump right now.
	Yeah it's it's um to just for a moment see what they're peddling and I know it's a tiny audience but but it doesn't matter because it drives double their audience actually by watching the show so I know I know it's but but it's again we have to be careful with the numbers game because What they say drives the narratives everywhere else.
	So, you know, the New York Times, the Washington Post, the establishment narrative is driven by what these lunatics are saying.
	They're saying that President Trump will put Democrats in camps.
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	So we came in with Buggles, video killed the radio star.
	What is the ironic trivia fact about that single?
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	First video.
	Here's what we need to do for our first video, right.
	What we need to do on the cruise when we do our 80s trivia is we got to put Stegall with Gallagher.
	You and I will totally nail it.
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	Genius.
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	But we're not allowed to have questions about musicals because then we'll lose.
	Yeah, of course.
	No, none of that.
	Just to your point about Rachel Maddow, you know the one that's killing me, and I know we're talking to everybody.
	Have you been watching Kayleigh McEnany on Fox?
	I haven't, because I don't watch Fox.
	I see the blowback on Twitter.
	Tell me.
	It's just, yesterday she was going crazy about how if President Trump's ever going to win, he's going to have to figure out how to get the Haley voters in.
	It's like, why aren't you saying that if Haley wants to win, she's going to have to get the Trump voters?
	Because that's never going to happen.
	He's the one that is winning in all of this, and she's really been hitting it hard about how he's not going to be able to get the Haley voters to come to the MAGA camp.
	But there are no Haley voters, unless you mean Democrats.
	Well, and that's the thing.
	You're not a Republican.
	I mean, look, I'll say it right now.
	If some horrible thing happened to Donald Trump and it was Nikki Haley or Joe Biden, what are you going to do?
	You're going to hold your nose and you're going to vote for Nikki Haley.
	Because how in the world could you ever vote for Joe Biden?
	How in the world?
	And so you're not a real Republican if that's the case.
	And she should be going after those people saying they need to support the nominee of the party because that's the will of the people.
	Right.
	Anyway.
	So I don't get, I just don't get people like Kayleigh.
	I really don't.
	I just don't understand.
	I think, honestly, I don't think it comes from a bad place, but I think she's trying so hard to look fair on Fox that it's, I don't know, it's bizarre.
	And so is Chris Sununu and Nikki Haley calling.
	Chris Sununu is vomitous.
	Vomitous.
	Calling, saying Fox is coronating Donald Trump.
	It's like they've given him two seconds in the last 12 months.
	Plate cut, plate cut four.
	So Joe Biden demonstrates this enormous strength in New Hampshire tonight.
	And then you have Trump showing much greater weakness against a credible challenger.
	And it depends on how you want to look at Trump.
	He wants to be called president in court and everywhere.
	So let's call him president just for this moment.
	When a president is on the ballot in the New Hampshire primary, you're supposed to win everything.
	You're not supposed to face a serious challenge.
	And when you do, you lose.
	There is no president who faced a serious challenge in the New Hampshire primary who then won in November.
	And so this is a very bad night for Donald Trump.
	Isn't that amazing?
	Winning is bad now.
	It's bad, yep.
	Also, what about Dean Phillips then, in that case?
	Running against Biden, yeah.
	30 seconds.
	You want to use that cut here, Seb?
	No, I can't stand that guy.
	Can't look at that hairdo.
	coming with nine that's cool you
	you you
	you Donald Trump has been pitch perfect in his speeches, town halls, and in his interviews, and even the impromptu moments with the press.
	He's been talking about what's good for America.
	He's been looking in the windshield, not the rearview mirror.
	He has focused on the people that elected him.
	I'm hearing the same Donald Trump of 2016, and I'm going to tell you, he stays on this track.
	It's not just that he will blow away everyone and anyone in the primary, but he will be unbeatable in November because all those people who voted for him in 2016, they come back and then there are a bunch of others, including some Democrats, who are sick of the border, who are sick of the economy, sick of the foreign mess we're in, who will say, my gosh, we can't have four more years of our guy.
	We're voting for Trump.
	Every time I see that man, I like him more and more.
	Governor Mike Huckabee.
	What a great man.
	He's right.
	He's right.
	He is so powerful.
	He is the unbeatable general in 47.
	But that's why the left will try anything.
	We're back with our good buddy Jennifer Horne, who's joining us for our Patriots Alaska cruise, along with Christy Gould, Mike Gallagher, Katie and some other surprise guests.
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	All right, so we've talked about the amazing results in Iowa, the amazing results in New Hampshire, with people who are in blue states who've just had it, whether it's the crime, whether it's the economy, the border.
	Stunningly, Jen, these aren't exactly border states.
	And the number one issue they're citing is the border when they're doing the exit polls, leaving the caucus votes.
	Yeah and it's because it's such a problem and the Biden administration is doing nothing but gaslighting people saying it's not a problem and the border is not open but we can see that the border is open and that it is a problem and in these states like New Hampshire and a couple of things to point out they have a huge Brazilian population there a lot of Brazilians will come in and they will they'll Try to work and they come in the right way and they actually go through the legal channels to make a better life for themselves.
	And this is the argument with every person that has come to this country the right way.
	The borders are not closed if you come through the legal channels.
	The borders are open if you do it legally and that should be the message of the Biden administration and they won't.
	And they've also felt the fentanyl crisis really hard, the opioid crisis.
	And I'll never forget, and I remember that President Trump in 2016, when he was running the first time, was so touched by the stories of the people who had been addicted and overdosed and died in New Hampshire, was that particular state that woke him up to that issue as a candidate.
	And as part of his administration, you'll remember this, Seb.
	went after the opioid crisis or at least tried to tackle the issues of addiction in the country.
	I can remember talking to many people from his administration saying he's the first president
	that really made an attempt to try to crack down on that.
	And it's a tough one.
	It's not something that a president can just snap their fingers and fix.
	But certainly shutting down the border to the drug cartels would be a good start.
	And it's not just the reality of what these people are seeing in their own states.
	There's also the response from the other side.
	We always have to talk a little bit about California, and I'm sure you've covered this on your show, but the fact that the LA Times...
	writes an article about all the people escaping from California and this of course is a left-wing
	man you know rag and this is the headline and if you don't believe me and I don't blame you
	you've got to look it up for yourself headline if you want to leave California fine but don't
	insult California on the way out.
	It's like, what kind of person says that in public?
	I mean, it's that... I'm dripping in arrogance and I'm actually going to put it in the headline of my article.
	That article is the reason people are leaving in California, because I'll tell you what, people don't run and move away from unicorns and rainbows, right?
	They run away from filth and homeless people.
	So it's the fact that the state has gotten so out of control under Gavin Newsom's rule, mind you, it's gotten 10 times worse and I've lived here my whole life.
	That people are leaving.
	The cost of living, the cost of housing, the cost of gasoline.
	You've got the homeless people that are living all over the place and they're getting benefits that the rest of us who are working really hard are not getting.
	The crime.
	They keep gaslighting us in that department saying crime is down.
	Well, no.
	They have reclassified crime or they don't prosecute crime at all, which is why there are numbers that are lower, but none of us feel like that.
	So, for all of those reasons, the middle class in California are leaving because they've been pushing out a socialist agenda.
	And what happens?
	You grow the poor and you grow the rich, and the poor middle class leave California and badmouth us on the way out because it stinks.
	And how dare the LA Times tell us that we shouldn't talk about that?
	Because if we want to keep people here, which I'm assuming they do, then you fix the problems.
	You just don't tell people not to talk about them.
	Right.
	It's bizarre, but the LA Times.
	They just had to cut, you may have seen it, CNN had the headline, I think maybe up today, they had to cut 25%, maybe over 25% of their staff.
	And this comes on the heels on Sunday of their editorial board endorsing DA George Gascogne again for a second term.
	And let me tell you that there are 12 people in the race to replace George Gascon.
	Every single one of them, except for one Republican, one Independent.
	Everyone else is a Democrat.
	The LA Times could have a field day picking another Democrat to put up against George Gascon.
	Instead, They said he should be allowed to get another term.
	They didn't tell you.
	And that's their words, by the way, not mine.
	He should be allowed to get another term.
	The people voted him in in 2020, and they should give him another another go round.
	Basically, they didn't talk about his accomplishments.
	They didn't talk about any plans to fix anything.
	It's just you should do this.
	There was no why given by the editorial board.
	It's no wonder with trash pieces like they're sending out and the fact that they have become so, so left-wing and they are opinion givers, not actual news reporters, that they're having to make huge cuts in their staff.
	Yeah, but will it make a difference?
	These things, you know, there'll be a Bezos or there'll be, you know, a Zuckerberg who comes along and turns it into his pet little project.
	I mean... Perhaps.
	I'm just... What can they say?
	What can you say?
	to give that kind of endorsement a second time around.
	Nothing.
	Especially when it's not just conservatives who are suffering. Everybody is suffering under George
	Gascon. Women, children, anyone who lives here in Los Angeles. And so when you have other Democrats
	to look at, how insulting is it that you really don't take into account what people are saying?
	And most of these Democrats work in George Gascogne's office and say he's not prosecuting, so we want to run against him.
	There was a DA's debate actually last Thursday, and every single person on the stage offered something more than George Gascogne, who stood there and couldn't even defend his own policies against the people who were standing right next to him.
	Because there is no defense for those policies.
	He just constantly says that they're working, that what he's done is just made the criminals into victims, and the victims, tough luck.
	There aren't any victims anymore except the criminals.
	Right.
	We've got 30 seconds left.
	It'll be interesting.
	Last question.
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	We had a blind guy call and say that he wanted to go on the cruise, but he wanted me to tell him what the experience would be like for someone who was not sighted.
	That wasn't Victor from Maryland, was it?
	No, California guy.
	We have Victor from Maryland who's blind.
	He calls in regularly.
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	And he called back and left a message on our morning answering machine and said that he loved it.
	And he's like, I'm going to go.
	I'm going to get the brochure and go.
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	All you have to do is hear crackling glaciers.
	It'll make Greta Thunberg cry.
	That was my descriptor.
	All right, you guys.
	Have a great rest of the day.
	Thank you, my friend.
	You too, John.
	Bye-bye.
	Tied off for that one.
	We spoke about hailey first, right?
	Oh, no, we talked about Rachel Maddow.
	Oh, you can block the lines.
	Jeff, what's the name on line five?
	C, that's it.
	He said C-E-E.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Just how mad, just how insane is Rachel Maddow?
	though. Alright. Line one is he says the Georgia thing was face saving because they voted they didn't get to endorse
	Trump but they didn't have enough votes to endorse Trump.
	They failed short, so they did that afterwards.
	Interesting.
	I looked it up, it's true.
	Cool.
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	Line one, James.
	Thank you.
	I'll make it quick, Dr. Gorka.
	Thank you for all you do.
	You're wonderful.
	That's very kind.
	Yeah, so what really happened in Georgia, I live on St.
	Primus.
	I was not in the room, but I was at the hotel, and I had friends inside.
	The vote was to not endorse Donald Trump.
	It was a very close vote, about 70 to 80.
	That's what happened.
	And then, of course, that was on Saturday, and then on Sunday, DeSantis dropped out.
	So I think some people realized they were betting on the wrong horse.
	So they didn't endorse anybody, or this was a vote not to endorse President Trump?
	There was a motion to endorse And that one failed and then they didn't endorse anybody?
	No, and what's interesting is the second they realized that we're going to have Eggers on our face because there are a lot of patriots like me who love Trump in Georgia.
	Right.
	So they did a second vote to keep the individual votes of the first vote on Trump secret.
	Wow.
	And so today's letter telling Nikki to drop out is just some kind of rearguard action to make them look good after that embarrassing vote?
	Correct.
	I think the word is CYA, sir.
	Right.
	I love that.
	I love it that we get callers like this who have the real intel.
	That's superb, James.
	Stay on the line.
	Let's get James a choice of whichever book he wants.
	Signed by me, Defeating Jihad, Why We Fight or The War for America's Soul.
	Thank you.
	Fascinating, fascinating, fascinating.
	So even what looks good on the surface is just an exercise in CYA.
	Stay on the line, my friend.
	Let's go on the same issue to Bill in New Jersey.
	Hey, Doctor.
	Thanks for letting us on.
	Without you, we wouldn't be able to even say anything.
	We'd be blocked.
	And I appreciate you letting me on the show.
	Sure.
	Yeah, you want to talk about Nikki Haley?
	Yeah, I wanted to talk about Nikki Haley.
	I think deep down inside that she's connected with a lot of the people that are trying to take Trump down on the Republican side and the Democrat side and are planning something to push her forward.
	And I think she knows about it.
	And the reason why is because you notice how yesterday she called it for herself really early.
	It sure sounded very familiar.
	It sounded like When CSNBC, ABC, and CSNBC called Al Gore's election for Al Gore when George Bush was 40,000 votes ahead in Florida.
	You remember that?
	Oh yeah, yeah, the hanging trads, 2000, right, right.
	Yeah, he went from 40,000 down to 5,000 votes.
	I could see it feed into George's mom's dining room, and it showed he was 40,000 votes ahead.
	And George is like, what the heck is going on here?
	So you think she's just waiting, she keeps on running, burning her Democrat funders' money because she's just waiting for President Trump to be forced out or for something bad to happen to him and then she says, hey, I'm the only one left.
	That's your theory, right, Bill?
	My theory is that they have something planned again like last time.
	Why would she say she won early in the day when she wasn't even close to winning?
	I think they're waiting to push it forward, to use her to push Trump out.
	And she knows about it, and that's why she's not dropping out.
	Because why would she say she won early in the day when she wasn't even close to winning?
	That's so people don't go out and vote for Trump.
	They did the same thing with George Bush.
	Exactly the same thing.
	And his votes went from 40,000 down to 5,000 and less in Florida.
	Just that one shot.
	Well, we shall see.
	The theory is very similar to a theory.
	Our buddy Dan Bongino has been floating for a couple of days now.
	We need corroboration.
	It sounds intuitive.
	It sounds a plausible explanation for her very peculiar behavior.
	But let's get some corroboration.
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	I just say there are people who are going to be in the room, and I'm going to be in the
	room.
	And I'm going to be in the room.
	If you say no, don't.
	If you say, I got offered to buy out, don't, don't, don't, don't.
	Because then we lose our ability to get things done in the future.
	Here's my problem.
	Rather than just say, let's work with her.
	She's a great candidate because they don't own me and it pisses me off.
	Yeah, I said I don't know about ownership.
	It's about control.
	It's about being on the team.
	Like I said, you know what I mean?
	They want to be on the team.
	They want you to be on their team.
	But if they're pushing a globalist agenda, I can't do that.
	So what do they want?
	What do they want me to do?
	They want you to stay opportunist.
	But, let me tell you what I can offer you.
	But, I said, you can do whatever you want.
	It's a talking head, isn't it?
	So the ask of me was, it's kind of funny.
	So the ask I got today from back east was, this is, he hesitated for a minute.
	He goes, is there any companies out there or something that could just put her on the payroll
	and give her, to keep her out?
	And I said, well, what do you want them to do?
	Whatever we need to do.
	This is about defeating Trump.
	And I think that's a bad, bad thing for our country.
	DeSantis is not America first.
	This is about the final death blow to Trump.
	And I don't think that's good for our country.
	God bless Carrie Lake.
	That was the conversation between the GOP chairman for Arizona, Jeff DeWitt.
	Sorry, the former chairman, because after the release of that conversation where he tried to buy her off and say, you know, the guys out east, I mean, sounded like a mobster, said, you don't need to run for the Senate.
	You're too close to Trump.
	How much money do you need?
	We'll find you a really nice lucrative job.
	You know, a no-show like Hunter Biden and Burisma.
	How much money do you need?
	10 million?
	20 million?
	And she said, I wouldn't do it for a billion because you can't buy me.
	That man is no longer the chairman of the Arizona GOP.
	Let's talk to the woman who should be and who was and is a great patriot.
	It's been far too long.
	Happy New Year, Dr. Kelly Ward.
	Oh, Seb, it's great to see you and hear you.
	You know, I watch you all the time.
	You were great at the Oxford Society, just telling it like it is.
	And so I'm so appreciative that you are out there and you are carrying our message forward so that we can, that we have a chance to make America great again and to save America.
	Well, you're too kind.
	It is our message.
	It's your message.
	It's the Patriots of Arizona.
	So let me ask you a very blunt question.
	Are you surprised?
	That Jeff DeWitt was caught trying to bribe Carrie Lake not to run for the Senate because she's too MAGA?
	You know, I'm so disappointed because I did have high hopes for Jeff.
	You know, Jeff has a lot of experience.
	He has a lot of connection to Trump world.
	And I was hoping that as I was done with my four years in the penitentiary of chairmanship, which I kind of considered it, being the chairman is not that fun.
	It's a hard job.
	I think Jeff found out that it is a lot harder than he thought it was ever going to be.
	So I'm disappointed.
	Am I surprised?
	I have to say no, because I mean, you know, I had my own experiences with Jeff when he was working for the Jim Layman campaign and really, really, really wanting that Trump endorsement and trying to offer enticement to me as well to get that for him.
	And I basically called him out straight out and said, no, I don't take bribes.
	I don't do that kind of things.
	And I would never exploit my relationship that I have with President Donald J. Trump.
	To try to buy an endorsement for a candidate.
	So we had a good friend of mine, an amazing content producer on YouTube, who's a resident of Arizona, on for the first hour.
	And he follows this stuff closely.
	And he said, this isn't about one guy.
	This is about the mess that is the GOP Republican Party in Arizona.
	So this is just one guy who's been caught doing something very bad.
	He's resigned.
	What's it going to take to fix all of this?
	And when are you coming back as the chairwoman?
	Well, I think it's going to take a heck of a lot to fix it.
	And it's sad because when I left the position back in January last year, you know, the party was financially stable.
	We had so many donors from all over the United States supporting us in our efforts to get those America First candidates Not only on the ballot, but into office.
	We had a fundraising apparatus like you wouldn't believe through our mail and our digital and our phone calling program.
	I made calls every single day to major donors saying, you have to invest in Arizona because Arizona is so,
	so, so important to the future of our country.
	And systematically, sadly, Jeff and his treasurer, Elijah Norton,
	they destroyed everything that we built.
	They knocked down that digital program.
	They got rid of our mail vendor that had been there before me.
	I didn't pick that vendor.
	They had been there for years and years and years helping us build on our message and on our brand
	to be able to keep Republicans in the fold in Arizona and get people from other states
	who need to adopt a more conservative state because they live in such a blue place.
	They could help us to save Arizona.
	And it was just, it was very disheartening that he...
	took that all away.
	And then, you know, of course, I hate the gaslighting where he just then blamed me and
	blamed my team, who was awesome.
	We had an amazing communication team.
	We had an amazing political team.
	We got our candidates all together after the primary and really, really worked together,
	looked at the data.
	Where did we need to put, you know, to get the votes out?
	And I think we did save the legislature.
	I think it's going to be very, very hard in Arizona to keep the legislature in Republican hands if we don't have somebody steady at the wheel as the chairman of this party.
	It's just so sleazy that in his announcement an hour ago he blamed Carrie Lake for releasing the audio recording.
	She didn't release it and I think the problem is trying to bribe her, not the source of the recording.
	God bless you.
	We need to get you back for a longer discussion.
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	to the president. I'm going to Just two days off, first day back, so much news.
	We didn't even break down what happened with the Supreme Court.
	With one of the alleged conservatives, one of the Trump appointees, siding with DHS, saying Texas can't protect their own border.
	Well, Greg Abbott says he's not standing down.
	It's an invasion.
	God bless those members of the Texas National Guard who are going to secure the border.
	Let's stay on that topic.
	Let's go to C in Arizona.
	C!
	Hello!
	Good afternoon, Dr. Dorka.
	How are you today?
	Good, good.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment?
	Well, what I wanted to comment about is that, and you can ask the Green Beret coming on, from his background, what is going on at the border, southern border, is actually a coup d'etat, which is very dysfunctional for the whole United States, but in particular the border states.
	When you go back to 1845 and the treaty was signed between then the Lone Star people, Teos, and or they're now called Texas, in there it stated that, and as you well know, the Constitution gives sovereignty to the state.
	Yes.
	It does not state that the federal borders, in fact, encroach upon and encompass a whole state.
	Right.
	No, you're absolutely right.
	That's absolutely right.
	That's why Texas can declare an invasion.
	Well, exactly.
	And there are multiple laws in the U.S.
	and international that state as such.
	The thing is, is that the Constitution states that they are a sovereign entity.
	Correct.
	When, in fact, they signed the ratification, which is actually a treaty in 1845, in order for that to be ratified, they had to give forth their Constitution, their being the state of Texas.
	In there, it states the exact boundary lines which goes right to the Rio Grande.
	It doesn't state that it's all the way up to San Antonio.
	For example, the thing is, is that an international border line between countries is exactly that.
	It's the border line.
	Now, there is a buffer zone.
	In some countries, they have it that it's a buffer zone into their part of the line, the country, up to one half mile.
	And it's a buffer zone.
	The thing is, is that doesn't exist in this country.
	Well, but we mustn't forget that Texas was a country.
	I mean, if you go to Texas and you go to the, you know, the museums of Texan history, you will understand that this isn't just a state or a former part of another country.
	This was an independent nation for several years in our collective history.
	So, thank you.
	I don't know if you're a teacher, a geographer, or a historian, but yeah, we have to remember that The federal mandate, the sovereignty, doesn't countermand the sovereignty of the states.
	We are a union.
	We are a republic of states.
	Thank you, C. Good stuff.
	Next up, Green Beret, Jim Hansen.
	What should we expect from the left in the next year?
	you you
	you Dr. G is ready for anything on America First.
	Yes, indeed.
	And it is great to be back in studio.
	You know, I even listen to the show when I'm traveling.
	Is that right?
	I just, I like radio so much.
	And I came back a day early.
	Why?
	Because there's stuff to be done.
	There's a republic to save.
	And also, we've got to brush up on our knowledge of math.
	Never let it be said that I was strong in STEM.
	I'm more of an artist deep down.
	You believe me, don't you?
	But I think I can do math better than Nikki Haley.
	Even before New Hampshire in Iowa, she couldn't subtract one from three.
	It was confusing.
	Here's a reminder what Nikki Haley thought back in Iowa.
	When you look at how we're doing in New Hampshire, in South Carolina, and beyond,
	I can safely say, tonight Iowa made this Republican primary a two-person race.
	I wanna know, how did she know that?
	Had she slipped a little note to Ron?
	Because right then, she was in third place.
	Three's not too Nicky, but now it is.
	I'm suspicious.
	Let's unpack it all, and more importantly, what happens after?
	God willing, if we do our part, if the man who is in the pole position with his historic victories in Iowa and New Hampshire, if he wins, do the good guys have a plan?
	Let's ask an expert in irregular warfare, in foreign internal defense.
	We need a bit of that here, domestically.
	He's our good buddy, our guest host, Jim Hansen.
	He is chief editor, nice title, for the Middle East Forum.
	Jim, thanks for coming in the studio.
	Always a pleasure.
	So, I want to talk about, you know, after November, if everything goes to plan, what needs to happen differently, because I'm sure you've got some ideas.
	But let's talk about, I want your take, because it's fresh, you have some fresh.
	First things first, Iowa is a purple state that voted for Ted Cruz, and before that, Santorum.
	Then we have this record You know, minus 30 degree windchill.
	This turnout where more women in a purple state voted for President Trump than the guys did, which is like, what's with that?
	And then we have New Hampshire yesterday, which as Steve Hilton did this little quick analysis on Fox said, is the worst primary state for Trump.
	I mean, New Hampshire is like, in terms of the purpleness and the crunchy Bernie Sanders, not a good state in terms of primary.
	And then he romps home with even more votes than the record holder Bernie Sanders.
	So what conclusions should we draw about MAGA, America First and the next 10 months?
	The next 10 months are a Trump infomercial.
	He doesn't have to campaign as much as he has to counter-program against the lies and smears that are going to be coming, not just from the left, but from the left sock puppet Nikki Haley now.
	You know, that's the big problem, is I wish, if she was a decent person, she would fight through to her home state, South Carolina, where they will flood that open primary with Democrat voters to vote for her against Trump.
	But when she loses, even with that, she should bow out gracefully.
	I don't think she's gonna.
	I think they're gonna back her all the way because it's free smears and free coverage.
	Eric, do we have, what was the figure, it was like record figures of independents and newly cross-registered who voted for Nikki.
	What was the percentage for her, Eric, do you remember?
	I believe the percentage was approximately 70% of the voters were not Republicans.
	So up to 70% were not Republicans or newly minted Republicans, just, you know, scratched out.
	Let's call them Biden voters.
	Let's just call them Biden voters.
	Why is that happening?
	I'm sorry, I mean, naive immigrants question.
	Why is that happening in a Republican primary?
	I'm confused.
	Why are Democrats voting in a Republican primary?
	Because she's willing to do it.
	The never Trump and establishment people who are so far gone, even Ronald McDaniel threw her out of the boat this time.
	But there's a recalcitrant part of the Republican Party that is going to fight Trump and try to make him lose because they'd rather him lose than let him have another four years.
	Because they make the same amount of money.
	They make more.
	But why is it even permitted?
	Yeah, because we're not as sleazy as the Democrats.
	The Democrats have the actual smoke-filled rooms where they are going to decide.
	I think they're going to let Biden win the nomination, and all of a sudden he's going to pardon Hunter, and he's going to need to go home to spend more time sniffing the hair of his granddaughters or something.
	And he'll bow out, and they'll put in Newsom or Big Mike.
	Who knows?
	I mean, there's some horrible thoughts.
	We'll talk about the potential dam strategies in a second.
	But how about this?
	I mean, as a guy who understands politics and political warfare, you have one of Nikki Haley's bundlers, so the guy who organizes donations, live on cable on Fox.
	Boasting about the fact how many Democrat big donors she has.
	What does that kind of say about the candidate and the team that you're not only getting money from the other side, but you're actually publicly admitting it?
	I can't figure out the logic behind that, because if you're actually running as a Republican, you're ensuring then that no one's going to come back to you if by some strange fate Trump is abducted by aliens and is not our nominee.
	But it's the fact that he thinks that somehow helps probably bring more Democrat money in.
	It's saying, join the people who are fighting.
	I think he's reeling in the other side.
	And what do you think of this theory that Dan Bongino has been pushing, which has a lot of... Vice President Bongino?
	No, no.
	I want him at ATF.
	There you go.
	I want Bongino to come in, run the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Dismantle it.
	Okay, Dan?
	Alright?
	And we're having some words with people who make decisions.
	Endorsed.
	Okay?
	Endorsed, yes.
	You second it, right?
	You second it.
	100%.
	So Dan's saying that the real reason Nikki's running is she just thinks, quote, they're going to take out President Trump some way or another.
	And then she's just, oh, look, I'm the guy that's left.
	Well, she's being told that.
	And I think she might believe it.
	I don't think she's that delusional.
	She gets publicity, free publicity.
	She gets pumped up for whatever else she wants to do.
	And I think at some level, she's been told that the rest of her life is taken care of as long as she does this.
	You know, and so she may not have to do politics anymore.
	So more mansions on Kiowa Island?
	Something.
	Board seat on ruining another airline.
	Something like that, you know?
	What is your expectation?
	If we see these results, are the left-wing donors going to stand by this person after she loses South Carolina?
	Are they still going to be?
	Because it's burning money.
	I mean, literally, you can just take a stack of cash and just, you know, light a fuel and let it on fire.
	Are they going to keep doing it?
	Who's more credible?
	A bad attack ad from the Democrats or a Republican standing there saying Trump's going to destroy the Republic, he's evil, he should be in Gitmo?
	Oh, she's perfect.
	She's the best thing for the left.
	Interesting.
	Alright, so the big question is, what do we do next?
	How long is it gonna take for them to do something even more drastic?
	And then, if we do our part and God willing, if the good guys win, what happens next?
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	Jim, you wanted to, before we talk about the future of a post-success, we've got 10 months to talk to us about our camp.
	We've got to win the general before we get there, and I think that's not, the primary, the nomination is a lock.
	Right.
	You know, there's no way.
	We do, though, have to convince all the people who are angry and unhappy and didn't want Trump that not voting for him is not just voting for Biden, it's voting to let them destroy the republic.
	Right, let me push back on this for a second.
	I love the primary system.
	In the beginning, I thought, I agreed with people who say, you don't have to go on a stage if you've been president.
	You got nothing to prove, okay?
	But I also said, you know what?
	It would be fun.
	Having 16, 17 people up there like we did in 15 was a giggle, right?
	It was fun.
	So the primary system is healthy.
	We always do that.
	We don't do the superdelegate end run like the Democrats do at the convention with Bernie.
	So, it's not the first time a Ron DeSantis has lost.
	It's not the first time that a, you know, whoever, a Chris Christie has lost.
	And we move on and we come together.
	Is there something different about the friction this time that we have to be especially cautious about salving the little injuries of our fellow Republicans?
	I think there is a bit of a difference.
	And I think it's, this was pretty, it was uglier, I think, than some of the other primaries.
	Yeah, a bit.
	And I don't think that's the problem as much as we have to make the case to them and the center that now Trump is a solid general election candidate, which is a totally different game.
	And I think if we don't look at that and get them helping.
	Right.
	You know, get them, I mean, DeSantis did the right thing.
	He dropped out.
	No, you know, honestly, good for him and I was surprised.
	Good for him.
	Let's unpack that a little bit.
	Is it convincing them I think the second.
	There is a certain number of people who hate Trump so much they're never going to vote for him.
	That's not big enough to sink the election.
	I mean, there is a certain number of people who hate Trump so much, they're never going
	to vote for him.
	Okay, that's not big enough to sink the election.
	But there's a certain number of people who are not going to get excited enough to come
	and vote.
	And we have, and that is part of the Republican Party, part of the center, which always swings
	the election.
	And I think we have to make a case for them that, number one, Trump is going to do some
	things that anybody who believes in this republic should love.
	You know, destroying the deep state, there's a number of things we'll talk about after
	he wins, and we predict his win.
	But to get there, we need to show them that sitting this out or not fighting fully is
	handing this to people who are going to replace Supreme Court justices.
	We're going to replace other federal judges who are going to act by executive order and who are going to continue their fundamental transformation of this country into a socialist crap hole.
	We've got to stop that.
	So here's the strategic communications challenge.
	We don't need to convince people like us, who are MAGA or America First, we get it, deep state, yada yada.
	So, how do we... what's the frequency?
	What's the signal for those people who need that convincing?
	What do we focus on, Jim?
	Where do we begin?
	I think the border, the school choice slash indoctrination of our kids in schools and the economy are all kitchen table issues.
	And we're right on all of them.
	Trump's right on all of them.
	And they're wrong on all of them.
	And we can show where they've been wrong and how bad their policies have been for our family, our economy, our security, our prosperity, all of it.
	And that's a case I would love to make.
	And how would we make it?
	Do we just say, hey, look what he did?
	Six years ago, seven years ago, or is there some new angle that we have to say?
	It's kind of funny.
	It's not mourning in America.
	It's the morning after the bad party hangover mourning in America again.
	We had mourning in America, and then we had a hellish party where they trashed the house, and the cops came, and everything sucked.
	And now we want mourning in America again.
	And I think that's a case you can make.
	That's not even a bank shot.
	That's a continuous line.
	Good, awful, Right.
	Do you want good again?
	It's a graph.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Are you surprised as I am about the fact that more women voted for Trump in the purple states than men?
	Every demographic won.
	In Iowa too.
	I was, yes, I was surprised by that.
	Do you think that's a function of the economy?
	I think a lot of it's the economy, because that's the one thing that everybody is not happy about.
	And they keep saying, oh, well, this, that.
	They keep playing lies, damn lies, and statistics.
	They can't change the fact that people are scared.
	I never feared growing up that I would not live a better life than my parents, because that was the American dream.
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	My daughter's worried.
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	And she worries about her long-term future because the country's on a precipice.
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	The news of today was that there was some wicked shouting match amongst the Republicans on Capitol Hill over a border deal.
	That McConnell wants to sign a border deal.
	He wants to say yes to 5,000 illegals across the border subscribed by us, the conservatives.
	And the decent people were saying no.
	And they were screaming at each other.
	So here's my question to you, Jim.
	Despite Iowa, despite New Hampshire, it seems as if the rhino class is just still doing its thing.
	I think McConnell looks at that as a way to sabotage Trump.
	Because if he makes a deal and they get that through, he can say, yeah, oh, we did what we could.
	We tried to fix immigration.
	And then those crazy Trump-loving MAGA guys in the House derailed this.
	You know, there's no deal to be made with the left right now.
	You have to have an executive who believes that we have a border before you can make a deal with them.
	And the Democrats don't.
	So it's a sham.
	But does that mean, therefore, that despite the unprecedented success of President Trump as a, you know, returning candidate, that the establishment Republican Party is just as strong as it ever was?
	I think the dead-enders are.
	I think there's now a split.
	When you see Ronna, like I said, not a Ronna McDaniel fan.
	You know that.
	None of us are.
	She's failed every place she could.
	And she said she was going to stay out of this, and came up today and said, you know, Nikki, you might want to move out of the way.
	So I think there's now a break in the establishment that says, these are the realists who want to win more than they want to hate Trump.
	And I think McConnell's on the hate Trump side, and he's got friends.
	And okay, we're never going to change their minds, but we need to minimize their effect on the rest of us.
	And when does it end?
	When they just age out and die or what?
	I'm fine with that.
	Seriously, if President Trump wins and we keep the House, are we just going to have a bunch of, you know, establishment rhinos running the Senate?
	Yeah, I wish I could feel better about the Senate, but until McConnell's pretty much Is he going to get majority leader again?
	Would he get that?
	Could they actually vote him out?
	I don't know.
	I mean, is anybody more powerful than him?
	That's the question.
	No, because it's money.
	Right.
	He's got the fundraising, so I think that's a problem.
	And how could a President Trump 47 work with Mitch McConnell?
	He'd have to know that he's dealing with a backstabbing viper, who looks in his little Myrtle Yertle the Turtle mode, very harmless, but who is not to be trusted.
	And so don't trust him.
	You know, and back him in the corner, go on offense against him.
	I mean, if they're inside your house, you've got to put them in a corner and keep them away from the important stuff.
	Do you think what Rona Romney McDonough said in the last 24 hours saves her job or not?
	I think it was really smart.
	Right.
	It was the right thing to do, which is rare for her.
	Right.
	And it was super smart personally.
	So, I'll give her two points on that.
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	reliable sources of people who will be coming in on the cabinet level if God willing the
	right thing happens and we do our part and the President wins, who say we are going to
	be dropping hundreds of executive orders day one.
	We are going to be parachuting hundreds of people into the landing team groups that go to the various departments to wrest control after the election and we're just going to flood the zone with personnel and with You know, more paperwork than they can, you know, shake a stick at.
	Which all sounds good to me.
	I haven't read these draft executive orders that President Trump would be signing on day one.
	But you don't understand irregular warfare.
	You understand political warfare.
	Beyond flooding the zone with people and materiel, this is going to be a heavy lift, Jim.
	From the FBI to the CIA to the IRS.
	No more markers of Queensbury rules.
	So if you're in the room right now, what are you telling to, let's say you've got, you know, the half dozen most important cabinet members and their deputies.
	What op order, what prep would you give them for this battlefield to make them understand this time it's different?
	An empty chair is better than an enemy in the building.
	Good.
	So, I mean, if you have the statutory authority in any way, shape or form, fire them.
	I mean, I'm always a fan.
	They're going to shut down the government.
	Okay.
	You know, good.
	You know, it's not like the military is going to run out of bullets before that happens.
	So we can always, if that happens, go ahead and fund that.
	So I think the thing you do is put them on defense.
	And then you can also, in addition to offensively putting out executive orders, you can pull all the executive overreach that Biden's done over the years.
	The nice thing is he's got an immigration policy.
	We're going to return to 2019, 2018, whatever.
	Flick the switches back.
	Flick the switch back across the border.
	You know, stay in Mexico, stay out, boom, done.
	Then you look at all of the regulations.
	You know, there's this idea that Congress passes a law and then the agencies interpret that however they want and do whatever they want.
	And so there's all these miles and miles of overreach in regulations.
	Trump did a great job first term of pulling some of that out, pull it all out, and let them try to fight to put it back in.
	Because if it's really necessary in some way, we can put it back in, pull it all, and make them fight to get it back in?
	Just one stat from our first year in the White House.
	The president had an arbitrary rule that he's not signing a new executive order
	unless two are rescinded before that, just to cut the red tape,
	which is great and sound impressive.
	By the ninth month in, that ratio wasn't two to one, it was 22 to one.
	We had rescinded 22 prior Obama executive orders to everyone the president signed.
	This time it's got to be even bigger.
	And then what about for the really bad guys?
	So when we know people like Vindman and others, if you're in uniform or you're a civil servant,
	are committing felonies, like giving classified documents to the press,
	or saying, I'm here to protect America from the person elected by the people to be their president,
	what has to happen to those people, Jim?
	I'm good with prison.
	You know, that's not easy.
	But there's plenty of them who actually have committed felonies.
	Right.
	You know, spying on the American people, outsourcing, you know, felonies to their subcontractors.
	You've got to put some resources behind that.
	So there has to be judicial action.
	Scalps on the wall.
	Yeah.
	And everywhere.
	Everywhere else, yeah.
	Heads on pikes.
	How much of a difference can one four-year term make?
	Because that's the president's unique situation, right?
	Only guy in America who can only serve one four-year term.
	Can we make a difference?
	The nice thing about it is you don't have to run for re-election.
	So who do you have to please?
	That's why I say you have to vote for him, because he doesn't have to compromise with anybody.
	My question is, can we do enough damage to the deep state in four years?
	I think it's worth doing.
	What is enough?
	Enough is as much as we can do if we work 24-7, 365 for four years.
	I want it all.
	When Mark Levin was on the show a few months ago talking about his latest book, for those of you who missed it, he said, He gets asked all the time, can we win?
	Are you an optimist?
	His callers say, are you an optimist?
	And Mark got really irate on my show and said, what do you mean?
	Can we win?
	Are you an optimist?
	Did they ask Patton whether he could win?
	You just fought because you must win.
	That's the attitude we have to have.
	It's not an option.
	It's not a can we, it's a we must.
	That's the right attitude.
	If America matters, If we want to save it, it's not a question of if we just do it.
	We're talking to Jim Hansen, chief editor of the Middle East Forum.
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	Last question for our in-studio guest and regular guest host, Jim Hansen, is what are you expecting from the other side in the next 10 months?
	When I get asked how bad is it going to get, I say, you know what, I can predict what China is going to do, North Korea to a certain extent, Russia, even jihadis, because I've read their stuff for about 20 years, but I can't channel lunatics.
	So what should we expect from people who really actually believe, many of them, That Donald Trump is a white supremacist Nazi.
	Who's going to destroy their public takeaway democracy, right?
	I think it's funny because someone asked on Twitter, have they laid off BLM and Antifa?
	Where have those guys been?
	So I think there is an element at the top, mostly Obama era people, like David Plouffe.
	They just brought in Obama's former deputy campaign manager to run Biden's campaign.
	So it's definitely Obama round four this time.
	And they're rational actors.
	They're smart.
	Well, can they control the Antifa BLM lunatics?
	No.
	And that's the best part.
	That's the good thing for us.
	Burn some stuff down, blow it up, you know, spray paint evil stuff, attack the statues.
	Do that because normals are now watching.
	You and I watch all the time.
	We watch 24-7.
	Normals are just now waking up to the fact that it's a political season.
	Is there a danger that, as opposed to waking up more and more people, even Fetterman's woken up, which is like, excuse me, that for some people it could intimidate them more as opposed to wake them up?
	I don't think so, because there's an element of, what the hell is that?
	That the left has now become.
	And when they show their faces, and it's drag queens, and it's terrorists, and Hamas lovers, open borders, all that.
	That's not something normal people look at and say, well, maybe they can govern.
	No!
	They look at that and go, ah!
	And that's what we want.
	And the combination, what do you think is going to drive, because it used to be, you know, it's the economy, stupid.
	Is it going to be crime and immigration?
	I think those are good.
	For people who aren't like us and aren't political, but who switch sides, is it going to be the crime and the immigration, or is it going to be the transgender, or just all of it?
	I think those are icing and sprinkles on the cupcake of people are scared about their security and prosperity, and they don't believe Biden and the left can bring that back, and Trump gave it to them.
	Right.
	It's what your daughter's worried about.
	It's the people who think, where's the American dream?
	They want it back.
	Guys, listen to this message.
	We want it back.
	So here's the question.
	What are you doing about it?
	I can't tell you how many people recognized me, came up to me in Vegas and said, are we going to win?
	And I didn't get aggressive.
	I just said, because these are all conservatives, they're patriots, they're gun guys and gals.
	And I said, What are you doing about it?
	Don't ask me.
	If you've got a problem in America, what's the American way?
	You don't wait for somebody to fix it, somebody else.
	You fix it!
	If you're not running for local office, if you're not knocking on doors for a candidate, if you're not an election officer like Katie, my wife, is, then you're part of the other team.
	If you want to take it personally, good.
	If not you, then who?
	If not now, then when?
	You've been listening to America First 101 with me, Sebastian Gawker, and our good friend, Jim Hansen.

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