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Rich Baris LIVE: Trump poised to put Haley away in New Hampshire

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	Welcome to America First with our special guest host, the political analyst I trust, the People's Pundit, Rich Barris.
	Wow, what an intro.
	Thanks, Dr. Gorka.
	I am.
	Welcome to America First.
	It is Rich Barris, the People's Pundit.
	I'm in for Dr. Sebastian Gorka today on primary day, the first in the nation, and I'm honored to be here.
	Look, I'm a big believer in staying in my lane, so what I'd like to do this show is pretty much guide you through what we can expect.
	There's a lot of news to cover.
	But I want to dive into New Hampshire right away because, look, we are a few hours away.
	Polls close in most of the state at 7, and then there are some parts and some of the larger areas that close at 8.
	If it goes as the polls Suggest it will go.
	Then it is the night that the former president, the 45th president, will put away his final rival, the last one standing, Nikki Haley.
	But we'll see.
	It is New Hampshire, and it is finicky.
	But going into today, and we had the tracking poll that was the last one before the primary, and it's pretty clear that the president has momentum.
	You know, it's funny.
	Everything's anecdotal.
	All that is anecdotal.
	But Listening to some of my friends in the media, and I do know who conducts exit polls and some of these people that are out there, and it did seem in areas that Nikki Haley needs to do well in, that the president got this last minute.
	And this is what I call primary physics.
	He got this last minute.
	He's going to be the nominee vote.
	So I'm switching my vote and I'm voting for, I may have been considering voting for Nikki Haley, but now I'm going to vote for Donald Trump.
	He's going to be the nominee.
	Republicans want to win.
	Here's a problem all of these rivals had this season.
	We can get into all the details, but the bottom line is, and I've been on this show talking about it a lot, Republicans want to win.
	Republicans are like the most abused group of people in American politics.
	A Supreme Court decision yesterday is a great example.
	They have all of these picks on the Supreme Court, they win the presidency, and once again their Chief Justice and somebody else jump ship and goes to the liberal justices.
	That never happens in reverse.
	And Republicans are tired of losing at things.
	Regardless of what, you know, the media has told them, regardless of what even some of the polls suggested, they view Donald Trump to be the strongest horse.
	And they're backing him because of that.
	That was an impossible hump to get over.
	If we can't look at the RCP average, can we look at the latest to that, gentlemen?
	Can we put that up?
	If not, I mean, I could just basically tell people.
	With those tracking polls, there it is.
	That's called momentum.
	And for those who are listening, what you can see is Trump is—that's the general election, actually.
	New Hampshire has Trump generally touching 60 percent, and Nikki Haley mired between 36 and 38, depending on what poll you're looking at.
	But if you're looking at the graph, It looks like somebody's on the rise.
	They both were, but the trajectory of one of them is significantly higher.
	As a pollster, what I think people should understand is we do the best job we can, but when there's momentum like this in a primary, it is very difficult, even if you are tracking every day like Suffolk was doing, it is very difficult to catch that last minute momentum, the full weight of it.
	And that's compounded when you have something happen like Ron DeSantis drop out a couple of days before the last minute.
	We have a good idea of where his voters were going to go.
	But generally speaking, it's in the air.
	Can we play cut one?
	It's in the air, not just for Republicans, but for Democrats.
	There's an alignment here, a move towards inevitability of where this is headed.
	I would also note, just to add to what Michael said, I mean, I've been here since Saturday.
	Trump had a rally here on Saturday night.
	He didn't surround himself with New Hampshire electeds.
	He surrounded himself with South Carolina elected officials from her home state, the next big competition, to sort of line up this feeling that there's an inevitability towards his nomination.
	So it is sure feeling like that at this point in time.
	Inevitability is primary physics, and the Haley campaign is trying to fight it back.
	But for once, Jen Psaki is telling at least most of the truth when she opens her mouth.
	Basically, Nikki Haley released a statement saying, we're ready to move on beyond New Hampshire, but we have raised this X amount of dollars and we're ready to do it relying on independence.
	Look, back on planet Earth, here's the problem.
	This happens to every campaign that's a losing campaign.
	We hit this stage where they're in the denial and delusion phase.
	Ron DeSantis was in it before, slightly before, and just after Iowa.
	And it's not a dig on anybody, it's just what campaigns do.
	These people work hard, they want it, you get bit by that presidential bug, and it takes time for you to admit you're defeated.
	It takes time for you to pick up the phone and call those donors and tell them, I took all that money and I lost.
	So she released a statement today basically saying, I have the money to go till Super Tuesday.
	Folks, here's the math, here's the problem.
	New Hampshire's her best state.
	This is it for Nikki Haley.
	That show of force that Jen Psaki's talking about in South Carolina was absolutely intentional.
	Her own state is a very Trump-y state.
	It's more evangelical than Iowa is.
	In 2016, Iowa was about two-thirds evangelical.
	South Carolina was about 73% evangelical.
	It is a very different state than the state that Nikki Haley governed almost 10 years ago.
	And she left the state unpopular.
	She had caved on the transgender issue.
	She caved on the Confederate flag issue.
	She caved on the monuments issue.
	She raised the gas tax, on and on and on.
	And then the final blow, Was Trump poised to win her state?
	She backs Marco Rubio.
	When Trump offered her the job at the United Nations, she took it happily as a chance to work for the president, who was popular with the base, and as a chance to redeem herself and build her image back up.
	She had nowhere else to go after that, other than Boeing.
	She could maybe have gone to Boeing earlier.
	They had a relationship long before she was ever part of the Trump administration.
	The facts are, after New Hampshire, There's really not a whole lot that you can do.
	There just aren't places that you could go.
	The demographics are not on her side.
	Now, we're also entering the phase when people start saying they want to take their ball and go home.
	Is this really an issue?
	We're going to talk about this in a little bit with our next guest in the next segment.
	Let me just preface it with this.
	For the last year, we've been asking Republican voters What are you going to do if your candidate is not the Republican nominee?
	Are you going to vote for the Democratic nominee?
	Will you consider voting third party?
	Are you going to write in your guy?
	Do you love your guy or your girl so much that you're going to write them on the ballot if that's an option?
	Or maybe you just won't vote at all.
	Nikki Haley and Chris Christie were the only two candidates who had voters who said, In large, large numbers.
	I'm going to vote for the Democratic nominee.
	When you look at who these people are, it's because they are Democrats.
	For the most part, no matter what you see on X, no matter what you see on Twitter, people are angry.
	This happens.
	This is what, this is, it takes time for people to come around, but social media is real, but it's not really representative.
	Ron DeSantis' voters, vast majority of them say they'll vote for Donald Trump.
	Nikki Haley's voters are Democrats.
	Many of them are Democrats.
	And I know everybody wants people to believe that this party is going to have a hard time uniting, but the fact is there have been a lot of these people pretending to be Republicans for many years.
	And I guarantee you, if we were to chase down their votes and there was any way to see how some of these people voted, you would see they voted for Joe Biden.
	This realignment is well underway, and there's not a whole lot that the Never Trump, whatever you want to call them, the anti-Trump forces really can do about it.
	Demographics just are not on their side.
	A couple of days ago, Ron DeSantis absolutely got that reality check.
	An internal poll came in, showed that he just didn't have the numbers in South Carolina to even qualify for delegates.
	This becomes a matter of delegate math now.
	Where is she going to go?
	Is she going to go to South Carolina?
	And even if she meets the 20-point threshold, which you need a minimum of 20% of the vote to even be eligible to receive delegates, if you do that, you have to stop Trump from hitting a majority.
	Not going to happen.
	We'll be back in a couple of minutes after the break.
	You're watching America First.
	I'm Rich Farris, in for Dr.
	Well done, Mr. Barris.
	Well done.
	Don't rumble!
	Guys, guys, thank you, thank you.
	All 1,300 of you who are watching so far, welcome.
	Yeah, it's, uh, I mean, you know what, with the calls, guys, uh, just shoot me, like, a text or something, I don't know, or a spreadsheet I just haven't gotten yet, but we can take some of those.
	Gotcha.
	Yeah, because I was actually, people were watching, I'm actually getting texts with questions about- Did you get the Google Doc?
	I sent it to you about- You didn't get it?
	Uh, not... You know what?
	I'd probably have to check my Gmail to do it, but, um...
	Bringing up Sean next, right?
	Yeah, yes.
	Just before it got a little crazy, I was gonna go into something else, but it can wait until another segment of this.
	I got- I was about to lead into something else, but, um... I know.
	Sorry about the RCP traffic, that was my bad.
	I- I didn't realize you wanted the New Hampshire one instead of the general one.
	So that- that's on me.
	That was on me.
	That's alright!
	I saw that, and I remembered the number anyway.
	I was like, eh, you know, he's at 60%.
	At roughly 60%.
	Alright.
	Which he's really at, I think it's 58 point.
	He's a 19 point lead.
	Something like that.
	He's on the line.
	Do you want to turn the mics off on Rumble or keep them on?
	Oh, you can keep him on.
	Alrighty, he's on the line now.
	How you doing, brother?
	Hey, Rich.
	What's going on?
	Good, good, good.
	How about you?
	How was your day?
	Oh, it's, uh, we're rocking and rolling, man.
	Just getting ready for the show.
	You know how it is.
	You know, I want to play, when we get back from the break, I'm going to play this clip from Byron Donalds.
	And I started, it's, you know, I started to talk about it anyway, but, um, You know, I know we're going to get hit here with the end of the break, but I started talking about it at the end of the segment.
	This is all going to be over soon.
	And, you know, you're certainly a supporter of Donald Trump, but you've always kind of told people this is where the party stands, you know, at this moment.
	And there are so many people who didn't want to believe it, didn't want to refuse it.
	We're really, I mean, tonight is the night where this question could be, you know, whether the party goes back To the GOP, your moves forward with MAGA, the voters of New Hampshire can answer this question tonight, definitively, no matter what she says, Sean.
	She could claim she's moving on and going to South Carolina all she wants and be the annoying little fly in the corner of the room.
	But the fact is... 90 seconds.
	Okay, yeah, 90 seconds.
	I mean, the fact is, I think that Byron McDonald's making a good point in this clip, and there's just no going back.
	There's just no going back.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I mean, New Hampshire is like fascinating because there's a really interesting mix of base Republicans, MAGA Republicans, and establishment Republicans.
	And we're going to see how Donald Trump stacks up tonight, probably pretty early.
	But my thought, I mean, I think he's probably going to win by a fairly sizable margin.
	And you're right.
	I mean, Nikki Haley said that she's going to stay in, but how can she?
	How can she?
	Where is she going to go?
	Where is she going to go?
	It's just inevitable.
	She's going to go to her home state and get shellacked by 30 points at her home state.
	I mean, it's crazy.
	35 seconds.
	I am Mike Soff.
	I am a professor of history at the University of Michigan.
	Welcome back to America First with our special guest host, Rich Barris from Big Data Polls.
	Yeah, every segment, I guess, huh?
	Yeah, I'm Rich Barris, The People's Pundit, in the saddle for Dr. Gorka, and honored to be—we're back.
	So, look, I want to bring on a great friend, great patriot, to elaborate on what we were just talking about with the unity of this party and where the future of the Republican Party is headed.
	If we can, bring him on.
	Sean Parnell, ladies and gentlemen, the former candidate for U.S.
	Senate in Pennsylvania.
	He'd be the sitting senator right now, I'm telling you.
	God willing.
	Listen, thanks for joining America First, Sean.
	How you doing, brother?
	Hey, it's great to be here, Rich.
	Look, before I get a clip I want to play, but before I even do, at the end of the last segment, because you were in the, you were kind of in the trenches.
	You supported President Trump for this nomination without a doubt, but if anybody watches Battleground, your show, they know that you will tell them what you think is the truth, no matter whether or not it's good for you in your opinion or not.
	And it looks like it was bitter.
	It looks like it was brutal on on X. But what do you think is going to happen moving forward here as far as unity goes?
	I mean, ultimately, they're going to rally behind the nominee to defeat Joe Biden.
	Or you think there's going to be take my ball and go home?
	Well, I mean, if Republicans want to win, they have to rally around President Trump.
	I've been saying this for a long time.
	They should have done it.
	They should have rallied around President Trump months ago, because the reality is, we're not just talking about one outlier poll that had Trump up 30 in Iowa.
	We saw a million.
	And not only that, we saw President Trump trend upward in every single successive poll since he got in the race.
	And so the polls were correct in Iowa.
	Trump walked away with what was an historic victory, the largest victory ever since Bob Dole in 1988, as you know.
	And now we're going into New Hampshire.
	So extend that logic.
	If the polls are correct and the trends are correct, President Trump is going to walk away from New Hampshire with an historic victory tonight.
	And this is going to be interesting because obviously New Hampshire is very different than Iowa, just different voters altogether.
	But New Hampshire is a very interesting mix of base MAGA Republicans and establishment Republicans.
	And if Nikki Haley, listen man, if she can't Pull within single digits here.
	And that is a very, very tall order.
	I don't see how she moves on, especially to her home state of South Carolina, where she's looking about looking like she's going to get shellacked by by 30 points.
	And the last thing I'll say on this, Rich, is that did you notice how You know, Sununu and Haley have moved the goalposts to where, I think a month ago, you had Sununu and Haley out there.
	Oh my gosh!
	Oh, she's definitely going to win if the people that come out to vote, that are supposed to come out to vote, if they do that, oh, she's definitely going to win too.
	Yesterday, well, I think she's going to keep it close.
	So if you're a campaign and you're saying that stuff on the eve of an election, probably not going well for you right now.
	Yeah, I'm telling you, I was going to bring this up in a later segment, the expectations game that we all see, you know, candidates and campaigns play in primaries.
	But, you know, the funny thing about New Hampshire, which is what you just said, there really is Very little, if not no, expectation game because this is the one state where if she's going to make a play, it's going to be here.
	It has to be now.
	She cannot talk about what she's going to do later down the road.
	And if the voters of New Hampshire reject her, the Republican primary voters probably be 40 to 45 percent independent, non-registered, as a non-party affiliated If they, together, reject her in what the polls suggest they will, then that's a big deal.
	I don't know if we have—do we have time to play that clip from Byron Donalds?
	Because I think he nailed it.
	I think he really says it all.
	Can we do that?
	Donald Trump has done this job, Laura.
	We've talked about that many, many times.
	And Nikki Haley does represent the old guard in the old way in the Republican Party.
	That's how she came up.
	That's how she governed in South Carolina.
	The voters in our country, Republican voters in our country, do not want that.
	They are tired of business as usual in Washington, D.C., and frankly, in a lot of state capitals in our country.
	What they want is an agenda that speaks for them.
	That speaks to them, that demonstrates that our government is serious about doing everything of, by, and for the people.
	Not for businesses, not for foreign nationals, not for international globalist communities, but for the American people first and foremost.
	That's what they want, and that's what they're gonna get.
	Yeah, Sean, she's talking to the old guard, by the way.
	I mean, she's on Fox News.
	That was not very favorable to the former president.
	You are a Western Pennsylvania, you know, bread, brother.
	Are they going back to Bushism?
	No, no.
	The party has fundamentally changed, and the establishment is dead.
	And here's what's going to be very interesting, okay?
	Nikki Haley has said regardless of what happens in New Hampshire, she's going to move on.
	Now, I don't know how she's going to do that.
	She's going to have to do some serious soldier searching to try to figure out if she wants to Be embarrassed in her own home state.
	But when you recognize and look at the 30,000-foot plan of the Democrats, and that's full-spectrum political warfare against their opponents with lawfare, whether it's going after Trump's name and legacy in New York, 90 federal counts and trying to throw him in prison for life, trying to use the 14th Amendment, bogus insurrection arguments to kick him off the ballot, and now Nikki Haley.
	She is the fifth pillar of this because she has Democrats working for her, Democrat lobbyists, and Democrats funding her campaign.
	So don't be surprised if she continues to move on.
	Yeah, this is what I really think.
	I'm going to press on people.
	This is what I was talking about in the last segment.
	She is a Democrat.
	I mean, the people that she is—we are in the middle of a realignment.
	The people that she is attracting are Democrats.
	And I think it's time that people recognize the realignment has been occurring for years.
	Republicans resisted it because they didn't like Trump, they didn't like Trumpism, but the fact of the matter is you can't stop that when it's organic, when it's natural, it's happening.
	It never, it will never stop evolving.
	You know, political coalitions, that's just how they are.
	So last thing here, Sean, I don't know how much time we got left here, but last thing.
	You think some of these people that were opposing the former president this cycle were really operating in good faith?
	Do you think they opposed him because they thought they were the better choice?
	Or do you think that they really, more sinister, relying on other forces to kind of help them out, hurt him in the primary, and that they saw that opening and they thought they would take it out of ambition?
	What's your general take?
	I mean, certainly, I mean, my answer would be a little from column A, a little from column B on this one.
	One of the things that became manifestly apparent to me in the wake of Trump's historic win in Iowa was just how many conservatives there are with massive, massive platforms.
	Now, these are people that are supposed to be on our side, advancing in the conservative football down the field to stop the wholesale destruction of this country and to stop the radical left.
	But these people, there are many of them who are probably pretty nice people, trying to give them a little bit of grace, But they just fundamentally do not understand this movement.
	They don't understand what President Trump has done to this party.
	I mean, the Republican Party, we are no longer country club conservatives, man.
	The Democrats are the party of ivory tower academia.
	They're the party of big tech oligarchs.
	They're the party of Hollywood celebrities.
	They are the party of the billionaire class, man.
	We are the party of the American working class, and President Trump revolutionized this party to give us that opportunity.
	And Republicans, we should embrace it, but there is a faction out there Yeah, that's a great point.
	Folks, follow him on Battleground with Sean Parnell on Rumble, 5 p.m.
	Eastern Standard Time.
	Thanks, Sean.
	All the best, my friend.
	Makes me wonder what their true motivation really is.
	Yeah, that's a great point.
	Folks, follow him on Battleground with Sean Parnell on Rumble, 5pm EST.
	Thanks Sean, all the best my friend.
	See ya brother.
	Thanks for watching.
	Bye.
	you you
	Yeah, if you want, you can.
	For those of you watching on Rumble, just to give you the exact, it was 55.8 to 36.5.
	So this is RCP.
	So 19.3 was the lead.
	Look, it just feels like she hit resistance around 38% and couldn't get up to that.
	When we come back, because I know people are listening, we're gonna listen instead of being able to see.
	We're gonna get into some specifics in New Hampshire and what you can expect, what we're kind of projecting to happen tonight.
	Even though I'm... Usually, they don't like you to tell it, but I'm gonna.
	One minute.
	Alright.
	So let's see what some of the rumblers are saying.
	45 seconds.
	This is the C segment, which is six minutes, right, Alex?
	Yep, six minutes long.
	So a short, a slightly shorter segment.
	Okay.
	Yep.
	Alright, what's your name?
	I don't know what you want to say.
	Alright, mic's off.
	Thanks for watching!
	Bye!
	Thank you.
	Welcome back to America First!
	And with us, special guest host, Rich Barris from Big Data Polls.
	And another thank you to Dr. Gorka.
	It is Rich Barris, the People's Pundit in for Dr. Gorka.
	You're back with America First.
	I want to give a A little bit of a preview of what's may or what we expect to happen here tonight in New Hampshire, both on the Republican and Democratic side.
	This is stuff we do give to people on Locals.
	You want to check it out, peoplespundit.locals.com.
	7 p.m.
	later tonight, we're going to be covering it live.
	There are live results, cool little maps, interactive graphics you guys can play with.
	If you're a data nerd like me, you'll absolutely love it.
	So look, what are we expecting?
	There's a chance the weather's not so great over in New Hampshire.
	There was a forecast for a little bit of snow.
	And we have this funny thing going on on the Democratic side where they're not issuing any delegates.
	Dean Phillips, the representative from Minnesota running against Joe Biden, and of course, Marianne Williamson, she's been in, she's been running now a couple of times.
	They are not going to get any delegates, even though it's proportional allocation.
	And it does look like he can garner a bunch of votes in this primary.
	Look, this could impact the Republican primary like we saw in 2000 when John McCain beat Bush, because if you're a Democrat, the deadline to vote in the Republican primary and crossover is over.
	That was in October.
	But a lot of them are Democrats, even though they are not registered.
	They are independents.
	Well, they're what we call behavioral Democrats.
	If you're Joe Biden, And there's a funny story about a robocall going out from Joe Biden, basically saying, don't vote.
	And the attorney general is investigating it.
	That's a great, a great illustration of what's going on there.
	Because if you're Joe Biden, you're running as a write-in, which is always tough.
	You don't want to be humiliated if you're the sitting president.
	So you have got to try to get some of these people out.
	So Dean Phillips does not get 25-30% of the vote.
	And again, just completely humiliate you.
	But even still, I'm going to give you some tidbits here.
	I'm going to give them out.
	About 108, 110,000 is what we expect to be the Democratic turnout on the Democratic side.
	There was no midnight voting for Democrats.
	Even on the Republican side, only Dixville-Notch participated in that.
	Usually three towns do.
	You have Hart's location and Mills.
	Dixville-Notch is not at all predictive or representative, so don't look at the votes from Dixville-Notch on the Republican side and think that matters.
	Michael Bloomberg.
	In 2020, he won the Democrat midnight voting in Dixville-Notch, but he also won the Republican primary voting and midnight voting in that township.
	They wrote him in.
	So, it's not an area that likes Donald Trump.
	It went for Ted Cruz.
	In 2016, so it's just not predictive at all.
	On the Republican side, there are delegates, of course, 22 up for grabs.
	They're proportional allocation based on your share of the statewide vote.
	And we're looking for a lot higher turnout in that one, more around the ballpark of 225 to 230.
	Listen, the former president got a huge endorsement last night that we did not count on when we put these projections together.
	So we'll see whether or not we're a little bit off, but he got the endorsement of Catholic vote.
	It kind of flew under the radar.
	I think only Fox News covered it.
	It's huge.
	They have a lot of voters.
	And just in New Hampshire, and by the way, they vote in primaries.
	Just in New Hampshire alone, that organization was texting, they said, before today's primary.
	They did it last night and this morning.
	Texting and emailing about 135,000 Catholics in New Hampshire with that endorsement and the obviously the call to action to it to vote for the former president.
	It's a it is not a joke.
	That is a significant endorsement.
	It's the thing that turnout is made out of again.
	It's awarded.
	Proportionally, so we're not going to see, you know, some huge breakaway here.
	Once we're past New Hampshire, the delegates will start racking up.
	We're talking about the rules in South Carolina, at least on our side.
	I don't know what other news outlets are going to call folks, but don't what they're going to do.
	But don't expect a race call, at least from us, which we do do.
	We call races until 8 p.m.
	Eastern time because A lot of the states, especially smaller townships across the state, they will close at 7 and will get the results.
	We expect them to start rolling in about 15 minutes after polls close in those townships, but there will not be a call based on early results or exit polls until all of the polls are closed at 8 p.m.
	You know, understandable confusion about how Iowa could have been called that early.
	Listen, I'm here to tell you there was nothing sinister there.
	The president Had an enormous lead, and when we got early results, even though people had the caucus doors closed, we could see that it was obvious the polls were right.
	And by the way, if anything, it could have depressed the president's turnout.
	They get a notification on their phone, the president's won.
	Many people, especially lower propensity voters who support the president, will just go home and say, well, it's cold, he won this thing, I'm out of here.
	We'll be back more with New Hampshire Primary.
	In a little bit, you're listening and watching America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	Salem.
	Is he on the phone?
	He's on the phone.
	He's a regular caller.
	He's a regular caller?
	Oh, I want to answer that.
	Yeah.
	You know what?
	I want to, I'm going to, I'm going to, in this next segment, I'm going to kind of like wrap up talking about New Hampshire.
	We'll come back to it a little bit, but wrap it up and, uh, and talk about this, uh, border.
	Cause I know people are chomping at the bit at the immigration thing.
	So, okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Jeff's the one putting in all the, what the callers have to say.
	I've I'm keeping an eye on the rumble chat.
	Um, Hmm.
	Wagonfire asks, does Catholic vote carry over to other states and the general election?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And they have been known to go back and forth.
	In the modern era, Democrats have gotten so left wing on abortion and marriage, some of these social issues, that they have pretty much now separated from the Democratic Party.
	But that separation was not that strong until really this cycle.
	So it's a big deal.
	Catholic vote, obviously a swing vote.
	It's a big deal.
	It's huge.
	I mean, you should have been jumping.
	I mean, I'm telling you, if you were in the Trump camp last night and you saw that you were jumping up and down.
	It's a big deal.
	All right.
	Good stuff.
	Yeah, it's cool.
	I'm kind of like froze.
	That's all right.
	Right.
	So am I and I am.
	Yeah, I mean, yeah.
	Doing good.
	Yeah.
	Doing good so far.
	Again, the next segment is eight minutes long.
	So I got a question for you.
	So what does your polling say about RFK Jr.?
	Oh, can you still hear us, Rich?
	Yeah, loud and clear.
	Okay, sorry.
	We were busy rerouting something, so we weren't sure if our audio was cut off for a moment.
	That's cool.
	Gotta think about that one?
	Yeah, no, it's just that it looks like it freezes on my end, so as long as I can hear you, I don't care.
	I don't care what it looks like on my end.
	I'm rolling.
	So what's freezing on your end?
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	What I wouldn't do for Old Bay Blue Claws from the Chesapeake.
	Just a quick update, uh, Mr. Barris.
	Unfortunately, we are not able to route the timer, uh, to you.
	So, uh, we retried that on- That's- I'll make it, guys.
	Yeah, okay.
	So yeah.
	We got the music at 30 seconds as the- the unmistakable cue.
	But yeah.
	Um... Yeah, I'm good to go.
	I'm good.
	Alrighty.
	Get rid of the graph from New Hampshire.
	Moving on.
	Yeah.
	This immigration story.
	Everyone's chomping at the bit over this.
	Let me wrap up New Hampshire for now, and then we'll talk about that a little bit.
	Robbity Bob, a regular in the Rumble chat, says, Laura, the brains behind Rich Barris.
	Yeah, that's that's you know, that's really true. I'll be I'll tell you right now. I can't remember times
	I can't remember appointments. I can't I can I have all the stuff in my brain is for statistics and
	It's just nothing else fits. Nothing else is there if it wasn't for her. I would be a hot mess
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	We're going to say a few more things about New Hampshire before we get into this immigration story, the SCOTUS decision, the Supreme Court decision siding with the Biden administration.
	I know everybody wants to talk about that, and there is a question from a caller I'm going to go to.
	But real quick with New Hampshire, the last thing I want to tell people is that the Republican primary should run relatively smooth, but expect there to be some delays on the Democratic side, even potentially significant delays.
	We were speaking to clerks and other officials that were kind of Very stressed and a lot of anxiety.
	They were very anxious over how to handle Biden as a write-in vote.
	So there are multiple ways that Biden's vote is going to be tallied.
	It's a bit of a mess.
	So if that map takes a while to fill in, that's why.
	So expect that.
	We'll talk about New Hampshire more in a little bit.
	But yeah, I mean, Victor, Silver Spring, Maryland has a question I want to answer.
	And by the way, Victor, what I wouldn't give for blue claws in Old Bay right now from the Chesapeake.
	My brother used to know this little hole in the wall that just, you just never find them like that.
	And he says, why do you think Barrett caved on the border?
	Listen, you will never see Democratic justices move over to the Republican side or very, very rarely.
	How many times have you seen that in the last 15 years or so?
	Meanwhile, Republicans have.
	Just countless examples.
	Sandra Day O'Connor.
	Even those who are conservative.
	Once in a while, they jump ship.
	They give you a horrible ruling.
	When Amy Coney Barrett was passed over the first time and told that she would be the pick the next time around, there was a last-minute push to try to sideline her because, to me and several others who agreed, she kind of reminded us of a Southern female version of Chief Justice now, John Roberts.
	I'm a pollster.
	I study public opinion.
	A lot of this comes down to life experience.
	Where does Amy Coney Barrett live, right?
	How was she raised?
	Even Chief Justice Roberts was raised, I don't want to say working class, but he wasn't silver spoon, you know, in Indiana, Catholic.
	But as you rise through the ranks in this country, in this side, especially judiciary, you're going to Be immersed in liberal social circles, liberal thought.
	There are hardly any examples of other people, Republicans and conservatives, Enjoying the benefit of like a liberal changing their mind because they're not in conservative world They're not surrounded by conservative circles.
	So even if somebody goes there stalwart conservative years and years and years of the social desirability biases and Cognitive biases will grind them down and that's just a sad fact but even in the case of Amy Coney Barrett and I'm not that surprised.
	And people who agreed with me at the time, she got a lot of praise from most conservative pundits.
	Sean Parnell was just talking about this.
	Huge conservative followings.
	They didn't really know anything about Amy Coney Barrett, heaping praise on her.
	And the fact is, she's like this high class, Sweater vest, Republican wing of Southern society, and I just don't know what else anybody would have expected.
	Same thing, ditto Pennsylvania.
	She is not someone who's going to come in and overturn the apple cart.
	Myself and others, we absolutely advocated for Legola.
	Who is a Cuban descent justice in Florida, and we believed, you know, which one should you pick?
	An insulated, privileged person who doesn't really, you know, has the, I guess, how can I put this?
	They have the benefit of being cushioned and coddled.
	And then you have somebody else who comes from the entire other side of the spectrum who knows nothing except the tyranny of communism and what it can do to you, the threat it poses, the lies of collectivism.
	And if you read her, her rulings, she was a rock star.
	And number two, optics don't hurt.
	It doesn't hurt for Republicans, by the way, but the first Minority on the Supreme Court and they could have absolutely have been the first Cuban or the first party to appoint a Cuban to the Supreme Court, you know, and that would have balanced the left-wing youth that Obama was able to get on there.
	It's another reason, by the way, I mean, look, Victor, if you're really concerned about this stuff and, you know, going back to what Sean and I were saying about the Santa supporters are maybe angry that the, you know, that they didn't get their guy this time around.
	Even some Nikki supporters who consider themselves Republican, ultimately you have to ask yourself, do you want Joe Biden to get another one, two picks on the Supreme Court?
	And by the way, who are some of the ones that are now older and are late in their tenure?
	They're, obviously, they're conservatives.
	It's not a good place to be when you're a country that is literally One 5-4 decision away from authoritarianism.
	Normally I like to stick to the numbers, folks, because that's my lane, but let's get into a philosophical conversation about the role of government in the wake of this decision.
	There are all of these cases that the Supreme Court is going to have to hear that are so important going forward.
	The effort to remove Donald Trump from the ballot, the persecutions and prosecutions of Donald Trump, these novel legal theories.
	And I think what some of us have been trying to say, and this decision may shed some light on it, is that you really cannot expect this court to save you.
	And you don't want to be in a position where you're expecting any court to save you.
	If there's one of three branches that is constantly the buffer, it's not supposed to be like that.
	But definitely not the Roberts court.
	You cannot put your faith in the Roberts court to do that, not as it is comprised now.
	I will say this, there's certain groups, when Republicans are presidents, That are constantly whispering in the ear of the Republican, we vetted this potential nominee, we vetted that potential nominee, and they have this very outsized share of the voice when it comes to influencing the president's pick for the Supreme Court.
	They have got to be kept far away from the president if and likely when he is re-elected in November later this year.
	They have got to keep these people away.
	They're the ones for years who have pointed presidents, Republican presidents, in the direction of, you know, I don't want to use the T word, but they certainly weren't solid, now were they?
	All right, there's the cue.
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	Liberal social pressure, Victor.
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	If you want to have him on the show, you can.
	Otherwise, if you just want to answer his question, that's up to you.
	Oh, yeah.
	I didn't know that.
	I didn't know you could throw him on there.
	I didn't even think of that.
	The callers, yeah.
	The callers, yes.
	Rumble, no.
	Yeah, well, okay.
	Let's do that.
	He's used to coming on.
	He's used to popping on.
	I don't mind bringing him in.
	He's a regular caller, yeah.
	Imagine, you know, but we should bring a mom because you say, like, think about this, folks, and Rumble, you're listening.
	Imagine if the Supreme Court was in, let's say, Beaver County, you know, some some really red area, even Tarrant County, Texas.
	Right.
	The largest, most populous red county in the state or in the country.
	You know, what if they were there?
	But they're not.
	They're not.
	They go there, rock-solid conservatives.
	They have the dinners every night.
	You know, they have the pressures every night.
	They have their kids and their friends and family.
	It's social pressure and works.
	You know, but that's the story.
	By the way, Victor actually dropped off the line.
	He's not on the line anymore, so...
	Yeah, no callers on the line at this time.
	And again, this is coming up 90 seconds.
	This is the short segment, 3 minutes 50.
	Okay.
	Yeah, much shorter than the others.
	What are we at?
	We're at 3.53.
	Right, okay.
	So, about a half an hour.
	I don't want to just spend too much time on a topic that we're going to wind up bringing on Daniel if he is coming, it looks like.
	Okay.
	So, we'll ask him the legality of it because I'm not a lawyer.
	Gotcha, yeah.
	A question for you though.
	I asked earlier, I think there were technical issues that cut off the question.
	What does your polling say about RFK Jr.?
	Oh, that's a great question.
	Let's do it.
	I got one buddy who's dead convinced.
	Or should I wait until the smaller segment?
	Your call.
	Salem should hear that.
	But I will say this.
	I'll give them the short little end of it right now.
	It depends what state.
	This is not a national election.
	This is a state by state, you know, 50, 50 state election.
	And if you are in Minnesota, it may help you if you're Trump.
	If you're in Pennsylvania, he's hurting you, you know?
	It's, there's no doubt.
	So it's a complicated question with not an easy answer.
	Gotcha.
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	That was a great question last segment, and I will say this, again, big believer in staying in my lane, but we're going to have Daniel Street on a little later in the show.
	He's a lawyer, author, and even better, he is from That class and society that Amy Coney Barrett is from, so we'll ask him to provide us not only legal insight into the decision itself, but background, because I'm telling you folks, as a public opinion pollster, somebody who studies human behavior,
	Our experiences make us the people that we are.
	They inform our beliefs, as do other things as well, but our experiences are huge when it comes to our worldview.
	All right, another question.
	It's just a short segment.
	I want to get to this though.
	It's a complicated answer.
	It deserves a lot more time, but what is my polling show about RFK?
	Listen, national polls are great, and we do it, we ask about RFK, we ask about RFK with West, with Stein, with Lars Mapstead, who could be the Libertarian candidate.
	It is a different situation when you look state by state, and we conduct what's called the Rust Belt Poll.
	It's a huge state of the Big Six, not the Big Ten, the Big Six.
	Iowa, Ohio, Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin, and of course, Pennsylvania.
	And it depends what state you're looking at.
	If you are polling Minnesota, and this is twice now, we've done that.
	RFK is taking votes away from Biden more because he's pulling votes away from some of these people that were in southeastern Minnesota that voted for Biden but weren't really fond of him.
	They're not fond of Trump.
	He's drawing voters from Biden on that end, and West is as well.
	But it helps Donald Trump in Minnesota, and the race was deadlocked there the last time we polled it because of that.
	But if you go to Pennsylvania, he is pulling votes that are non-college educated votes.
	If you were to poll the head-to-head without him, those voters go to Donald Trump.
	So the question is, in my mind, It's still an open question, very much, and it's not a simple answer.
	The national polls can only tell you so much about how he will impact the race.
	We're not the same country when Ralph Nader was on the ticket, Ross Perot was on the ticket.
	Yes, national numbers tell us something, but this race will be won in the Electoral College.
	And because of that realignment we were just talking about with Sean Parnell, That is, the issue of RFK is a bigger question, because Donald Trump is changing the electorate.
	He has rearranged the pieces on the board, folks, you know?
	It's not the Mitt Romney versus Barack Obama map anymore.
	Maybe it wouldn't have mattered all that much to Mitt Romney, and then he still would have lost.
	But it will matter when you are going after that same low-propensity voter who doesn't vote all the time, doesn't have a college degree, and that's it.
	I stay tuned.
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	All right, we are at what now?
	It's 4.05 Eastern Time.
	Polls will be closing in some of these townships, especially the smaller ones, mid-sized ones in New Hampshire.
	In about three hours, some of the bigger townships and cities will not close until eight, but expect results, like I said in the prior segment, to come rolling in a little after fifteen, about a quarter after seven is when we expect that some of those first results will come in.
	And look, I wanted to give you that last segment.
	I didn't get it all out there, but I wanted to tell you by geography a little bit of what to expect here.
	All right.
	Because, again, there could be an early call.
	Could Nikki Haley pull something off here and get it close, or closer than the polls expect it?
	Sure.
	Is it likely?
	It is not likely that she will pull a John McCain of the 2000s, for instance, when he upset George Bush after losing Iowa.
	There's a few reasons for that.
	John McCain won Republicans.
	He won independence by nearly 50 points, but that's not the whole story.
	That's the story the media keeps regurgitating because they like a horse race and that's their business model.
	It's a broken business model.
	The model says, keep it a horse race even though it's not.
	Don't tell the people the truth.
	Keep it a, you know, a nail biter as long as you can.
	That's not the situation in New Hampshire.
	John McCain won conservatives by one point.
	He beat George Bush among self-described conservatives.
	That is not the case here.
	Again, Trump is leading if the polls are going to be right or to be believed, and they were in Iowa, which is even more difficult in some respects to poll.
	New Hampshire is finicky, and yes, it can be tricky because of the independents, but caucuses are the biggest pain in the butt, in my opinion.
	I don't know a pollster that would disagree with me on that.
	But in the final days here, what we did see was that advantage Nikki Haley had with those independents was dwindling badly.
	And in fact, in some polling, it was gone.
	And Donald Trump was even either tied or somewhat leading in the insider advantage poll, which people, you know, the eyebrows went up when that was released.
	But You know, Matt over at Insider Advantage does a good job.
	He nailed Iowa.
	There's no reason to expect that he would be terribly wrong now, especially since the other polling pretty much mirrors what he found two days before everybody else.
	And again, Trump is leading two to one more among, sometimes two and a half to one among Republicans.
	It's just not the same situation.
	So what are we going to be looking at when these results come in?
	Manchester.
	Cannot, cannot exclude Manchester.
	It is one of the largest towns, so we're not going to get results from them, or chances are, we may, but chances are we're not going to get results from them immediately until after the eight o'clock hour.
	It is the largest town in New Hampshire.
	And it should come relatively close to matching the state as a whole.
	Now, if it's 55-45, it doesn't mean the state's going to be 55-45.
	That's not what I mean by that.
	It is roughly going to be on par, or we expect it to.
	And it's about 6%, 5-6%, maybe upwards of 7% of the total statewide vote.
	This I butcher all the time.
	If you're from New Hampshire, feel free to call in and yell at me.
	It's a large town, and again, it should come close to matching the state as a whole.
	It's about 5% of the statewide vote.
	Concord.
	You know, Lexington and Concord, right?
	Concord will be, or should be, we expect it to be, Trump's weakest out of the three biggest towns.
	And Concord is about 3% of the vote as well.
	Salem.
	And some people say, really?
	It's Trumpy?
	You know, all I see in these shows, you know, with Salem in it, they're all a bunch of like affluent, educated, upper class, you know, they're different people in I don't even want to call it high.
	It's like middle class, middle to upper class.
	There are some affluent areas that are super pro-Trump.
	It's one of the biggest media lies that you'll hear when you're when you hear them talking about the Trump voter.
	In North Carolina, for instance, not far from where I'm from, Moorhead City is very affluent.
	Everybody has a boat or a yacht.
	They are well off.
	It is Trump plus 32.
	So, it doesn't necessarily doom Trump in an area where it's educated.
	And Salem is affluent, but it is conservative.
	And it's on, of course, the Massachusetts border.
	It historically, though, has been pretty pro-Trump.
	It's about 2% of the statewide vote.
	So, we'll look at that and we'll see which way the winds are blowing there.
	Portsmouth, the seacoast, that is definitely a place Haley should perform well.
	Her problem?
	It's only about 1% of the statewide vote.
	And in Merrimack, which is also historically pretty representative of the state in a Republican primary, that is, it's about 2% of the vote.
	So between Merrimack, Manchester, Nashua, we'll have an idea of what the statewide vote should look like, those margins should look like.
	Now the other one Nikki Haley should do really well in is Petersburg.
	If Haley is not doing extremely well in Petersburg, she could get flattened, and worse than the polls suggest.
	It's only about 1% of the vote, but demographically it's going to tell us a lot about how some of these other places are voting.
	Dixville notched that little midnight voting.
	She took all six of those votes.
	Again, like I said, once upon a time it was really fun for guys like me to look at Dixville notched midnight voting and actually care and pay attention.
	It is not representative at all anymore of the statewide vote in general elections and the primaries.
	Joe Biden took all five.
	He did win New Hampshire by about seven points or so, or ten points or so, but You know, it doesn't matter.
	It really doesn't matter.
	New Hampshire could be, you know, two points next November and Dixville Notch will still give all five votes to Joe Biden.
	Mark my words.
	And just there of not a very friendly place for Donald Trump.
	It's just not what it used to be 30, even like 20 or 30 years ago.
	And again, I am not alone in hearing this.
	You may have heard some of these stories.
	Apparently Americans for Prosperity, the Koch brother pact that is supporting Nikki Haley to the tunes of tens of millions of dollars.
	Apparently they camped out.
	They had sent representatives To camp out in Dixville Notch and, you know, within the bounds of the law, treat them very well.
	Why?
	It's a game.
	It's a game.
	If she's gonna pull off some kind of an upset, or she's gonna do better than people expect her to do, then you want to kind of sigh up the voter.
	Oh, look, in the midnight vote, Nikki Haley took all six.
	Again, though, I gotta say, they're, um, In Portsmouth, for instance.
	It's a seacoast area.
	That's another area Nikki Haley should do well.
	And I don't really expect any surprises there.
	But in Nashua, I would have thought she was going to do better.
	And just from you're going to see some exit polls leaking out here pretty soon.
	I can tell you there were quite a few interviews with people this morning that were basically, you know, kind of like the giving up vote.
	I just voted for Trump.
	She doesn't have a chance.
	And that's not something she can afford.
	By the way, exit polls.
	Take them with a grain.
	The CNN entrance polls for Iowa are awful.
	I have very mixed feelings about exit polls.
	In practice, they could be helpful, but every election, every cycle, the media is irresponsible with them.
	They're not interpreted correctly.
	They're revised continuously throughout the night to make it look more representative as the night goes on.
	Fox News' voter analysis, which is really done by AP VoteCast, did a very good job, actually, in the Iowa caucuses.
	The CNN entrance polls were awful.
	And you don't have to be a math genius or some statistician, you don't have to be the People's Pundit, to go up and look at their exit polls.
	Just look at gender, and you will see that if the exit polls were right, Trump would never have gotten a 51%.
	In truth, I believe it was the 18 or 17 to 29 demographic that they showed Trump lost.
	And he did not lose them.
	He won them.
	He won every age demographic.
	So the AP vote cast did show that they were right.
	But always take these things with a grain.
	There are useful tools, but there are historical examples of when the exit polls were just awful and news outlets were embarrassed, had to uncall races.
	Just the results of what I just rattled off to you is going to be much more insightful than the exit polls that they're going to start reporting.
	Again, just simply take them with a grain.
	A couple of factors about this we've touched on before, and I want to read this, I want to get into this story really quick because it's just an insane story.
	Every time, every time there's a situation like this in a primary, somebody pulls some kind of little dirty trick, whether it's Ted Cruz in Iowa in 16.
	There's a story in NBC News right now, The New Hampshire Attorney General's Office says it is investigating what appears to be an, quote, unlawful attempt, unquote, at voter suppression after NBC News reported on a robocall impersonating Joe Biden that told recipients not to vote in Tuesday's presidential primary.
	This, let me just say this.
	This is not a robocall that's just going to be blasted out to everybody or every Democrat.
	This is somebody who specifically targeted certain demographics that they don't want to show up.
	We'll get into who that could have been more after this break.
	You're listening to America First, I'm Rich Barris, The People's Pundit, in for Dr. Gordon.
	This story is hilarious.
	Mike's not the robocall thing?
	Oh my God, it's so funny.
	I mean, there was a Democrat who was like fighting this.
	Yeah, the robocall.
	And this isn't the first dirty trick.
	And what did they do?
	They took her number, because pollsters can do this.
	Kathy Sullivan.
	They took her number and plugged it in as the number to show up in the caller ID when people get the call.
	So it's messed up and probably a lot of people don't realize this, but You know pollsters can they can choose in many times to show you certain numbers and they can even give you a specific number their software out there that unfortunately is not
	Abiding by regulations and it allows pollsters to basically put in the number they want to show up.
	We don't do that.
	We randomly generate local numbers and that's how we call people.
	So it looks like a local, local calls always increase participation.
	But this one is somebody who did this on purpose.
	This is hilarious.
	I mean, honestly, it's funny, but it's wrong.
	It is wrong.
	And yeah, you know they're gonna bring the hammer down on whoever did that because it's the contrast between um That meme guy Ricky Vaughn and then like that woman who they did the exact same thing of saying hey Trump voters vote the day after the election Whatever like she got nothing and Ricky Vaughn gets sent to prison like he goes to jail, right?
	Yeah That's I guess I will find if they find out who did it then that'll determine the outcome you also got to feel like oh Maybe not because to me something like Alec Baldwin looks like he was just sacrificed on the altar of we have to make it look like we're not playing unfairly here this year in an election year.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But this could either be Nikki Haley's people Calling Democrats so they don't vote in the primary for the Democratic primary.
	Or this is like Dean Phillips's people calling Democrats who they target or they identified as likely Biden voters.
	Or there's a third option, which the viewers probably and the listeners aren't going to like.
	It's Trump's people calling Democrats not to vote because of Nikki Haley, but they're Democrats.
	So I don't think Trump would have done it because the deadline's up.
	You know what I mean?
	Right.
	So it's more likely that this is either Haley people or Dean Phillips' people.
	And they picked the chair of the party for crying out loud.
	Right, right.
	70 seconds.
	By the way, we have almost 2,000 people watching on Rumble.
	Welcome, everybody.
	Yeah, if I had the link, I'd share it.
	It's in the tweet.
	He tweeted and tagged you in it from Seb's account, so just go to Seb Gorka on Twitter.
	Oh, Gorka?
	Really?
	Oh, okay.
	And the Rumble link should be there.
	Yeah, sorry, sorry.
	Yeah, we post it on Facebook and Twitter and tag you, so... Where are we?
	Where are we?
	I don't know why I don't see it.
	It should be near the top of his feed with a picture of you and then...
	Oh, there it is!
	There it is, and then there's the link, the rumble link, so you just tap on that, and then you can see the rumble feed.
	Having a blast, I'm gonna write.
	Having a blast.
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	Liv, we're going over this story about these deep fake robocalls calling Democratic voters.
	And, you know, I'm laughing because there are always these dirty little tricks, but, you know, it's really not funny what they're trying to do.
	But let's try to ascertain who could have done this or who would have the motive to do this.
	And then I got a great question from a caller.
	I'm going to bring him on in a bit.
	Although the voice in the robocall sounds like the voice of President Biden, this message appears to be artificially generated based on initial indications, the Attorney General's office said in a statement.
	Quote, these messages appear to be an unlawful attempt to disrupt the New Hampshire presidential election, primary election, and to suppress New Hampshire voters.
	New Hampshire voters should disregard the content of this message entirely.
	And I was saying during the break for radio listeners, Polsters, because what they did was they took the phone number, the cell phone number of the Democratic Party chair, and that's the number that was showing up on the people who received this call on their caller ID.
	Polsters do have the ability, and robocall people have the ability, to put in a number that they want to use to show up on your caller ID.
	We don't do that.
	We randomly generate local numbers, so it makes people obviously more comfortable.
	It's a local call.
	You would pick up, you're a lot more likely anyway to pick up a local call than you are to pick up a call from another state, right?
	Or an 800 number or something.
	However, there are regulations in this industry, and you're supposed to have software that makes you validate that you own that number.
	And in some very shady software, they still allow an interactive voice response, it's called, And it's echoing a favorite term that Biden uses a lot.
	It's important that you save your vote for the November election.
	And I imagine soon they're gonna crack down on stuff like this because of how the industry has been.
	But the message says, what a bunch of malarkey.
	And it's echoing a favorite term that Biden uses a lot.
	It's important that you save your vote for the November election.
	Voting this Tuesday only enables the Republicans in their quest to elect Donald Trump again.
	Your vote makes a difference in November, not this Tuesday.
	And as I was saying before the break, they're not going to blast out a campaign like this to everybody who's a registered Democrat.
	That's not how something like this would work.
	They're going to target specific voters that they believe this message obviously is going to benefit them if those people stay home, if they're not going to blanket the entire airwaves.
	When you find out The profile of those voters, you'll find out who it could be.
	So, option A, it's a profile of a Biden voter, and Biden's telling them to stay home.
	There'll only be two people who would want to do that.
	Dean Phillips, for damn sure, wants Biden voters to stay home.
	He's waging this campaign.
	It's not for delegates.
	It would be a bit of a Pyrrhic victory or, you know, an empty, maybe a hollow victory.
	He's looking for momentum and he's looking to embarrass Joe Biden.
	Would he do this?
	There are, no matter how much he goes on and on about not taking Super PAC money, there are some recent stories about some pretty dubious people that are backing him.
	And it's AI, big names in AI.
	So the fact that this is a deepfake, anyone can really do this, but the fact that this is a deepfake, it no doubt has the earmarks of the people who support Dean Phillips.
	He's the one with the obvious motive, folks, obvious.
	And then you have potentially, again, the listeners may not want to hear this, But Trump would want Democrats to stay home.
	However, that motive's weak because the deadline for Democrats to vote, to change their registration to be eligible, was in October.
	And according to this report from NBC News, these are Democrats who are getting this.
	Not behavioral Democrats who are registered as no party affiliated, but actual Democrats.
	Again, And there is an argument to make that this could be Nikki Haley targeting a certain kind of voter, but she needed to get those voters registered and changed by October in order for that to benefit her.
	And that's going to be one of the questions impacting this race tonight.
	In Iowa, there was no reason for a Democrat to go to the polls, to go to the caucus site.
	They were conducting party business.
	That's what they called it.
	But there were no real caucuses occurring.
	Nobody was casting a caucus vote or support.
	Their caucus was—it's not a caucus.
	It's a vote-by-mail primary.
	They're still calling a caucus.
	Those results will be announced on March 5th.
	So it was easier To get some of those people to go to their caucus sites in Johnson County, the University of Iowa, Iowa State, it was easier to get those people out than I think it may be in New Hampshire, where there will be some voters who are very mad at Joe Biden because they lost their first-in-the-nation primary status.
	It means a lot to these people.
	And they're sidelined for South Carolina.
	They were sidelined because Joe Biden was humiliated in 2000 in New Hampshire, just like Iowa.
	He was humiliated in Iowa, humiliated in Nevada.
	It's South Carolina that is getting all the attention now after I mean, really, how they moved this calendar is historic, folks.
	We have never seen an incumbent move a calendar around like this to protect themselves.
	This is payback to James Clyburn.
	It's a longstanding conversation in the Democratic Party about whether two white states, predominantly white states, should have such an outside say in who's going to be their nominee.
	So this time, Joe Biden did it.
	The Democrats supporting Biden, Team Biden, did it.
	They pulled the trigger.
	And there are a lot of angry Democrats.
	If you are a Democrat, You have to decide whether or not you want to change your registration and vote for Nikki Haley.
	And by the way, you had to do that by October.
	She wasn't really on fire in October.
	Or you go and you cast your ballot for Dean Phillips.
	That's what you do if you are an angry Democrat.
	If you're not angry at what happened in the primary process and you want to win in November of this year.
	You want to go out and you want to cast your vote for Joe Biden.
	I'm just trying to get in the minds here of Democrats and try to help you understand this.
	Because if Joe Biden is humiliated, like Jimmy Carter was humiliated, and Carter won, but he won 49% of the vote, while Kennedy in 1981, about, I believe it was 38% of the vote, 35% of the vote, ballpark.
	I believe it was 38 percent of the vote, 35 percent of the vote, ballpark.
	So Kennedy called it a win and he moved forward and Carter was damaged.
	No matter what you hear people say.
	Combative, competitive primaries, when there is an incumbent in the race or an incumbent-like candidate in the race, is never good for the party.
	It wasn't good for Herbert Walker Bush.
	It wasn't good for Jimmy Carter.
	And it's not going to be good for Joe Biden, which is why they're moving heaven, hell, and earth to try to make this a coronation for Joe Biden.
	Again, Haley needs to convince some of these voters, including their independents, That all of that is irrelevant, and you need to come out and stop Donald Trump.
	And we're going to find out how capable, competent, how effective that message was in a couple hours here.
	But it is not the same as Iowa, where people had nothing better to do with their time, and they might as well go out and vote against Donald Trump because, look, I hate orange man bad.
	You know, that's not the case here in New Hampshire.
	And they take it very seriously.
	I think it's a much, much tougher case to make.
	Anyway, the message concludes with a phone number belonging to Kathy Sullivan, the former New Hampshire Democratic Party chair, who now runs a super PAC supporting the campaign to urge New Hampshire Democrats to write in Biden's name in the primary.
	I don't know about you, folks.
	That smells like D.P.
	Phillips and his AI friends to me.
	You're watching and listening to America First on Salem.
	Rich Barris, respondent.
	We'll be right back after this break.
	It was smart to drop out of that primary because he knew he wasn't going to win, so he'd have
	a better chance as an independent.
	Totally rigged it.
	Totally rigged it.
	I mean, there's just no, yeah, yeah, you know, by October he had to make the decision.
	Can't blame him.
	Although, it's like, his strategy to get on these ballots is, um, it makes no sense to me.
	Somebody who knows basically every, at least every battleground competitive or semi-competitive state rule, and we had a show and we went over this, um, his decision to go after some of these states makes little sense to me.
	I just don't get it.
	It's, it doesn't seem like Whoever is in charge of doing this, uh, knows what they're doing.
	I mean, frankly, it's just true.
	Uh, three minutes.
	Jeff's getting them on the line now.
	Yeah, I was just gonna ask you, do we have them?
	Because if not, I, I can, there's something else I could do or want, wanted, but.
	We're, we're, we're getting them on, just a little bit here.
	All right, cool.
	And I'm just gonna, where's that clear?
	There's one clip I wanted to run for him, I think, or do I want to save that?
	Was it Axelrod?
	No, I'm going to run that after him because I wanted to get into more of that.
	Let's save Kamala for David.
	Let's save Kamala for David.
	Ok, what about Sununu?
	Daniel, R-Streak?
	Uhhhh...
	And the only other cut we have at that point is making a lead.
	We are running out of time to stick him in there, huh?
	We are running out of time to stick him in there.
	And you don't have to include all these cuts.
	I mean, you can use them whenever you want.
	There are plenty of times we don't use every single cut that we cut for the show, so for what it's worth.
	By the way, don't tell Seb this.
	This is just a secret for us and the Rumble viewers.
	You have over 2,400 people watching live right now.
	Those are numbers that even Seb doesn't get on Rumble usually, so... Daniel's on now.
	He's on the phone.
	This is a short segment.
	It's like six minutes if you want to do two segments with him.
	Okay.
	Oh, you want to do... Can he do two?
	He's got the time to do two?
	He's on the line, you can ask him now.
	Mic's are on.
	Hey, Daniel, how's it going, brother?
	Oh, doing good, my friend.
	Yeah, I can do however long you need, really.
	All right, very cool, because I really help the audience understand What on earth they were thinking with this rationale, and then, you know, if I understand correctly, it's temporary order.
	You know, how it could possibly change in the future.
	And then also, somebody had asked us about Amy Coney Barrett, and you and I have talked a lot about the weak Southern Republican, you know, and how A lot of them are from this old wing of the party and people, you know, if we could talk and give some insight into who Amy Coney Barrett is, you know, and the society she came from, you know, this is not somebody who's, you know, this is not an area of the country, even for Republicans, no matter how much people think about the South, where you're going to like forge this iron conservative.
	It's just not, that's just not how it is down here.
	You know, so I thought we'd talk about that a little bit.
	30 seconds.
	Yeah, um, I was just looking, looking at her background a little bit more.
	Um, but, yeah, but I'm familiar with the case and, you know, the Supreme Court's ruling is really brief, obviously, and limited.
	Save that, save that, yeah, save that.
	Welcome back to America First with our special guest host, Rich Barris from Big Data Polls.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	Welcome back to America First.
	This is Rich Barris, the People's Pundit, sitting in for Dr. Gorka.
	Honored to be doing so on primary day, New Hampshire, first in the nation.
	Big night tonight, without a doubt.
	But I do want to get back to the Supreme Court decision, siding with the Biden administration over Texas.
	And now we have with us Daniel Street is a lawyer and author.
	He's going to help us break down this decision.
	Daniel, thanks so much for joining us.
	Welcome to America First.
	Hey, thank you for having me on.
	It's a privilege to be here.
	Can you make this make sense to some of the viewers from, you know, the legal point of view, you know, where Chief Justice Roberts and Amy Coney Barrett, you know, what was their rationale in siding with the liberals on this?
	Sure.
	Well, you know, I think a little background is in order just for the, for your audience.
	The, the case arose out of the state of Texas that put up about 29 miles worth of a razor wire, essentially during, I mean, on a portion of the border near Eagle Pass, Texas, and the United States Border Patrol decided they wanted to take it down.
	The state of Texas went and filed suit in federal court.
	in the del rio district the del rio division in federal court in west texas and asked among other things uh you know they actually filed what are called uh conversion and trespass to chattel claims those are common law claims and basically what they're saying is hey the united states government is destroying our property we had the right to put this property in place and we have the right to use it and they're unlawfully taking custody of it and destroying And those are trespass to chattel and conversion claims.
	And they got a federal district court to grant a temporary restraining order, which is a, you know, a form of injunctive relief that orders someone to stop doing something.
	In this case, the district court ordered the United States government, specifically the United States Border Patrol, to stop destroying this razor wire.
	Now that order was extended a couple of times, but what happened was the federal district court ruled that preliminary injunctive relief was not available.
	So let me explain that real quick.
	There's basically three types of injunctive relief.
	There is a temporary restraining order, which says, hey, you can't do this right now until we have some hearings about it.
	Then there's preliminary injunctive relief, which covers until a trial on the merits is held, and then there's Uh, what's called a permanent injunction, which is after the court holds the trial and says, look, you can no longer do this forever.
	Well, the issue here, well, part of the issue is what's called sovereign immunity.
	Ordinarily, parties can't sue the government unless the government's waived its sovereign immunity.
	That waiver is 5 U.S.C.
	702.
	And the district judge ruled, hey, I gave you a TRO, but I can't give you a preliminary injunction because 5 U.S.C.
	702 doesn't allow for that.
	And that got appealed by the state of Texas to the United States Court of Appeal for the Fifth Circuit.
	The Fifth Circuit reversed that decision and rendered a preliminary injunction, which would maintain the status quo until the trial.
	That ruling was appealed to the United States Supreme Court, and in a two-paragraph opinion or decision or order, the United States Supreme Court reversed the Fifth Circuit.
	So that's what really took place.
	And the important part is, The case isn't over by a long way, and the real question is, what was the majority hanging their hat on at the United States Supreme Court?
	And I'd be glad to elaborate on that, but the true answer is we don't actually know, because the order doesn't say.
	Well, that's what I thought.
	You went exactly where I was going to go, which is number one, this isn't the end of this fight.
	But also, it's kind of hard to determine where it will ultimately come to a head because they just didn't elaborate on it.
	And this is not the first time.
	I think a lot of Republicans and conservatives are rightfully mad that It's just the same people.
	You know, if it's not Brett Kavanaugh with Justice Roberts, it's Amy Coney Barrett with Justice Roberts.
	And even some of the decisions I've seen Gorsuch side with the liberals on, he's more of a textualist, right?
	So I actually understood where he was coming from.
	But so many of Barrett's Decisions, Daniel, I don't get outside of, you know, that she is what she, you know, what I think she is, which is, again, people have this misconception of what a strong Southern conservative may be, where she came from, her background.
	So what do you think would be the most persuasive argument?
	That's what I want to hear when we come on the other side of the break.
	All right.
	Stick with us.
	It's America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	I'm Rich Barris, PeopleFunded, in for Dr. Gorka.
	We'll be back in a few with Daniel Striegel.
	All right.
	Yeah, I mean, Daniel, what I was going to say is like, where do we like, how, where
	Where do we start when we try to understand her rationale?
	Because you have to understand it to make a persuasive argument.
	If you were arguing it, where would you go from here?
	Yeah, well, the important part is the only thing the Supreme Court ruled on was the injunctive relief, and that's not all of the relief that a party can get In a lawsuit, in fact, it's the most difficult type of relief to get in most cases.
	So, you know, if I was the state of Texas, I'd just go try my case and try to get the court to rule in favor of my trespass and in other arguments and, you know, basic remedial claims and then see if I can't get the court to rule that I can get permanent injunctive relief, although that's probably not going to happen.
	So, but the real question is what What decision, what's the basis for this decision?
	And I can tell you that there's basically four separate bases for the decision of the United States Supreme Court.
	None of them... I'm probably going to get you to repeat this, by the way.
	I'm just telling you, I'm probably going to ask you to repeat this because, or at least a short version because the segment's shorter.
	Yeah, no problem.
	And, you know, we just, we don't really know, but But the injunctive relief is probably not going to happen.
	And, you know, that doesn't end the question or the dispute.
	But, and I have to tell you, it would be completely legitimate for a conservative judge, whether it was, you know, the district court judge ruled the same way.
	And he was hammering the government.
	He just didn't think he could give the relief that was requested.
	At least this part of it.
	People are more upset about this than they really should be.
	That's my assessment.
	When we come back on the radio, for sure, I want to talk about it because I've heard this side of the argument before.
	I can't remember, it might have been Mike, but I saw somebody tweet it saying, this really isn't as bad as you think it is, which of course he got hammered for, but you know what?
	Truth is the truth.
	What's the segment up to?
	We've got 80 seconds left to go and this segment is eight minutes long.
	So we can do both of those.
	Okay, cool.
	So we can do both of those because I don't want to forget talking about Amy Coney Barrett's background a little bit.
	I think it's important.
	Yeah. All right.
	One minute.
	Cool.
	And Daniel, thank you for doing this last minute.
	I hit you up last minute.
	Thank you.
	Oh, no problem.
	Thanks for asking me.
	No, you're a great guest as always.
	It's a lot more fun to practice along.
	Oh, but don't forget, you know, I got to get, I got to, you know what, on the other side of the break, I'll, I'll bring them up.
	Um, your, your, your books, I'll bring them up on the right, right.
	As we get into it, this way, don't forget on the way out and I get caught with a hard break.
	Yeah, I've got his most recent one, Fake News Exposed.
	Yeah, it's awesome.
	You're so good.
	I'm pushing my sub stack too.
	In fact, I probably need to write about this on my sub stack.
	Welcome back to America First with our special guest host Rich Barris
	from Big Data Polls.
	Bye.
	you Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	Welcome back to America First.
	This is Rich Barris, The People's Pundit, filling in for Dr. Gorka.
	Honored to be doing so on primary day of all days.
	We are talking with Daniel Street, lawyer and author about the decision from the Supreme Court, siding with the Biden administration at this moment, anyway, against the state of Texas.
	And just real quick before we get back into this, Daniel, I gotta bring up that your books are just off the chain good.
	The last one, Fake News Exposed, is amazing.
	There's several of them, folks.
	I've read every single one of them.
	Because you're a lawyer and you prosecute the media, and I say this every time I talk to somebody about your books, that There's always something I forget.
	We all have forgotten that the media lied about, said that just the most outrageous fake news, the most outrageous lie, and because of how they do it and they obscure and, you know, the narrative of a story, you know, two weeks later, you find out it was totally bunk.
	The mind, the human mind, lets it go and forgets about it.
	And your books are great because you just don't.
	I mean, they're so good.
	But I just wanted to bring that up.
	And people should definitely go check them out.
	But, you know, real quick, we were talking about this on the other side during the break a little bit, and I've seen this and heard this argument before, and I hope you're right about it on Substack, because is it possible that conservatives are making, not that this isn't a defeat, but that conservatives are making a little bit too big of a thing?
	It's not as bad as they may expect, or they may think.
	Yes, absolutely.
	And I think, too, that important point to make is that the district judge in this case, if you look at his decision, he just makes one decision after another, one fact finding after another, just literally hammering the government.
	And when he got to the preliminary injunction, now remember, he had granted the TRO and extended it several times.
	That's a temporary restraining order to stop the government from removing the razor wire.
	And When it got to the preliminary stage, preliminary injunction stage, he denied the request.
	And he did that because he did not think that 5 U.S.C.
	702 allowed him to grant that relief.
	And there are several, that may or may not be right.
	The Fifth Circuit ruled that he was incorrect and the Supreme Court reversed.
	And I will say it's a legitimate interpretation of 5 U.S.C.
	702.
	I think the court could go either way.
	But the other issue is, That the government made several other arguments.
	They argued that the Federal Tort Claims Act is the exclusive remedy.
	They argued that intergovernmental immunity doctrine protected the USA from the Texas suit.
	And they argued that the US government had jurisdictional immunity under the Immigration and Naturalization Act.
	Yeah.
	We don't know what basis the Supreme Court decided on, but I can tell you that Any number of conservative judges might reach one of those conclusions in accordance with their judicial philosophy.
	So I would caution people to say, hey, this is Justice Roberts and Justice Coney Barrett just ignored what the law is.
	I wouldn't say that at all.
	Justice Barrett is an eminently well-qualified I mean, listen, she's one of the most brilliant lawyers I've ever seen, and she clerked for Justice Scalia, and she's a devout Catholic.
	I think that she's a fantastic addition to the court, even though maybe it wouldn't have been my first choice, but not that anybody cares about what my choice is.
	But I wouldn't caution anybody to say, hey, don't think she's not a legitimate conservative, because there's conservative grounds upon which this decision could be made.
	Let me ask you about her a little bit because I'll tell you what, I absolutely favored Lagoa.
	I thought it was time for the court, especially Trump, to do it because of Trump's, I don't even want to call it an ideology, but his agenda.
	I thought it was time for a Republican like Trump To put a woman on the court who knew the horrors of leftism firsthand, Daniel, I think that some of us are just too insulated.
	You know what I mean?
	We're too insulated.
	We know nothing but America.
	We feel this very You know, how could I put it?
	We have this false sense of security because we are Americans and we're not used to living with the threat of authoritarianism right around the corner all the time.
	And I just felt like it was a time for a different point of view.
	And I really liked her rulings and her credentials.
	Again, I'm not a lawyer, but tell us a little bit about Amy Coney Barrett, like, you know, her background.
	Like, is this what we would expect her to be?
	And there's no doubt the woman is qualified.
	There's just no doubt.
	But what do you what do you make of You know, she comes from a different class than I think a lot of Trump voters, you know, is what I'm saying.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And I have to say, in the interest of full disclosure to the audience, I have a bias in favor of Justice Coney Barrett because, you know, I'm from Louisiana, she's from Louisiana, and I don't know her personally, but we're from the same generation.
	I mean, she's a couple years younger than me.
	But she is what might fairly be characterized as kind of upper crust, New Orleans aristocracy type.
	Her father was an attorney for a shale oil company, and devoutly Catholic, and he's a deacon.
	I believe he used to be at a parish in Metairie.
	And so these are These are kind of upper crust, traditional Republican household.
	And it wouldn't be too far of a stretch to say she's a little bit like a kind of a bourgeois Republican establishment type.
	That might be too simple or too broad of a brush, but her conservative credentials are legit.
	And so, you know, I think like most people, and I think the person that you were referring to who you favored for that nomination was the conservative Hispanic woman from Florida?
	Yeah.
	Is that right?
	Yeah.
	That's exactly right.
	Cuban?
	Yep.
	That's right.
	I was one of the people doing what little I could to try to push her nomination, but Justice Barrett, Connie Barrett's an outstanding judge, and she's a great person, but she would be, I think, fairly characterized as something of an establishment Republican.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and I think, you know, I'm just dealing with some of that earlier today, and that's why I wanted to have you on, Daniel, because you know the world, you know that society, and of course, the legal aspect.
	Thank you so much for coming on last minute.
	Daniel Street, ladies and gentlemen, go check out Daniel R. Street.com.
	You'll love the books.
	Thanks for coming on such short notice, Daniel.
	We'll be back.
	More America First.
	Rich Barris.
	That was awesome, brother.
	See you soon.
	Appreciate it.
	Bye.
	Alrighty.
	Two and a half minutes.
	Almost 2,600 people watching live on Rumble.
	Woo-hoo!
	They love you, man.
	They love you.
	And nice job the last time.
	You just hit the post on the last one, so nice job.
	Okay, cool.
	Yeah, that's okay, cool.
	I thought, you know what, slow down a little bit and, you know, take the time to go through it.
	Yeah, it worked out.
	Did he do it on Truth, too?
	Because I would blast it out there, too.
	I did not post that on Truth.
	Usually, I just stick with Twitter and Facebook.
	Yeah.
	You have the links.
	Like, you can post the link.
	I understand that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Let's see.
	And I want to take a moment here.
	We had a super chat on Rumble a little while ago.
	A regular user, GuloGulo88, for $2 with a question for you, Rich.
	He asks, Hit me.
	Is anyone polling Gavin Newsom as a last minute replacement for Biden at a national level?
	How does he poll outside California?
	I have polled Gavin Newsom and recently as a replacement along with others.
	And we did one or two times last year.
	So we have kind of like a baseline.
	His profile certainly lifted up when he debated Ron DeSantis.
	Here's the deal, though, with Gavin Newsom.
	He's not a good replacement.
	And I know a lot of people are worried about him because he's sly, right?
	He looks smooth and he can be very good when, when you're looking at him with voters in California.
	But in the, in the Rustbelts and in the Sunbelt, he does not poll well.
	They don't like him.
	They think he's just this you know, snake, uh, you know, Silicon Valley, upper cross
	liberal, whatever it is, and he's not playing well. There are far more, and I'm not sure I
	want to give Democrats any, any ideas, but there are far more formidable, one in particular, uh,
	replacements for Biden.
	But outside of that one, Biden performs the best.
	And I can just tell you, Trump led anywhere between 5 and 11 points against Gavin Newsom.
	And the time he even got to 5 was a month where we saw a big chunk, say someone else or a third party, bigger than usual.
	And then Trump's vote share came down to 45 and Newsom had just bumped to 40.
	But Other than that, I mean, Trump was like 53, 42, um, 50, 39.
	I mean, just the murder, you know, just he would clobber Gavin Newsom.
	Clobber.
	Welcome back to America First with our special guest host, Rich
	Baris from Big Data Polls.
	Welcome back to America First.
	I am Rich Barris, the People's Pundit, filling in for Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Honored to be here.
	It is primary day in New Hampshire.
	We are getting close to the time when polls will close.
	I do want to, at this last segment, I want to go to the phones.
	There's been some people waiting for a while.
	Can we bring on Wesley, talking about Georgia?
	That's a great question.
	I'd love to.
	I'd love to get him on there.
	Thank you, Rich.
	I just wanted to swerve to Georgia for a minute.
	I know it's New Hampshire's day, but I gotta tell you, I don't think that New Hampshire's a must-win state.
	I think Georgia is.
	Is that correct?
	You are correct.
	Absolutely.
	Okay, so here's the deal.
	The Georgia Republican Party is having problems.
	They met at St.
	Simon's Island this past weekend.
	It was a very divisive meeting.
	And I just want you as a pollster and a pundit and a man that knows the inside politics deal to be aware, Georgia Republican Party, the leadership is loyal to the governor who's not wanting Trump.
	And the election integrity thing doesn't look like it's going to get fixed.
	And so I just wanted to raise my hand for the back of the bus and say, help Georgia.
	Yeah.
	You know, Wesley, thank you for that.
	And I think You're on to something.
	I think it's valid and people should share your concern.
	The polling looks great for Donald Trump, even in 22.
	Going back to 22, we polled for Seedy Media and some others.
	You know, we had Hershel Walker in our final poll, up by one.
	He had been leading by a lot more.
	He lost, and we didn't do the runoff, but he lost by one.
	Very close, but I mean, the numbers were all there.
	For him to win that Senate seat outright against Warnock the first round and he didn't pull it off and he didn't pull it off because you could see that he ran far behind Trump in a lot of because we also asked about the presidency at that time, but there was a turnout issue.
	I mean, they're just the Republican Party in Georgia's got to get attacked together.
	And I don't think it's going to.
	I'm telling you, Wesley, I don't think it's going to until some of this generational change happens or voters just throw out people like Brian Kemp.
	They gave him the benefit of the doubt after he won his primary against David Perdue in a MAGA, and the president said, you know what?
	It was a good-fought primary.
	Now vote for Governor Kemp.
	And what did he get in return?
	So I know it's tough, and it is a good Concern to have because Democrats are way ahead of Republicans on the get out the vote.
	The only thing I tell you to take heart in is that when Hershel Walker was, you know, between tied with Warnock and even up, I think as much as five points in our polling at one point, Trump was way ahead.
	So he would perform, you know, five to eight points stronger, which is probably not going to happen in reality.
	But it tells you how much more of an advantage he did have.
	He was outrunning them even in the Atlanta area.
	But again, people are, we'll get to the next call in the next segment, but people have got to realize Republicans need to get out the vote operation.
	Stop spending millions trying to defy the voters.
	We'll be back.
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	I don't want to give people a false sense of security, but we have been polling Georgia for a long time.
	And Trump is now looking like a normal Republican looks when you're, you know, it kind of came out of nowhere in 2020, right?
	And it looked closer.
	And then, of course, we know what happened with the rules, right?
	The rule changes and all these.
	Then they had that bill, though, that did pass.
	22 was not as bad.
	And you can tell what they were trying to, you know, do, and I'm telling you Trump is, is lead now is outside
	the margin of shenanigans, you know, but I don't want to give people false hope and
	Republicans need that ballot chasing operation.
	They do.
	They, that's why they underperform.
	Who's the Democrat that pulls well?
	Oh, Gretchen Whitmer.
	I was gonna say!
	But I feel like people don't know her enough.
	I think when she was running that she would fall apart, though.
	I keep saying she's a dark horse.
	People need to watch out for her.
	Yeah, I hope you're right, but they like, you know, she reminds people of... Do you guys remember Bobby's World?
	The show Bobby's World?
	It was like Howie Mandel.
	It was a cartoon.
	Yeah, and his mom's, don't you know, Bobby?
	Right?
	That's the image people in the Midwest have of her right now, and they like her.
	I don't know if it could stick, but I thought for a while Shapiro would be a real threat, but he doesn't.
	There's something about him.
	And honestly there may be some anti-semitism involved in that.
	I don't know.
	I don't know if America's like ready for uh some because you know when we pulled Michigan there's a large population of Muslims in Michigan and they may have yeah and they they didn't they didn't like them they were like I'm not voting.
	And I'm, you know, I was a little bit shocked by it.
	And that's why, when I see the things coming together, like, again, Muslim leaders of official, like, Muslim groups officially campaigning for them to abandon Biden this year over the Israel stuff.
	In, like, Michigan and Minnesota, I would think that could make all the difference, because Trump almost won Minnesota in 16.
	Absolutely.
	I have long advocated that he can carry Minnesota and, you know, it did blow up to like a Biden plus 10 before 2020.
	So, I mean, we overstated Biden a little bit.
	Now it's dead even.
	And I'm telling you, in Michigan, it's 130 plus thousand Muslims who vote in Michigan.
	If they stay home, that's Biden's, that's almost Biden's entire margin.
	Yup.
	I mean, it's... kidding?
	Alright.
	Absolutely.
	Alright, we got David on the stream.
	You want the mics on on Rumble for the candidate?
	Can you hear me alright?
	Yeah, that's cool.
	Alright, mics are hot on the Rumble stream.
	Alright, let me see, let me grab... Hey David, how are you doing, buddy?
	I do want to play a clip before you come on.
	I want to hit that cut to you guys when we come back.
	Kamala Harris, okay?
	That's what I want to show David.
	Alrighty.
	Yeah, I want to show David that clip.
	Kamala Harris.
	All right.
	Trying to figure out why my green screen's not working.
	Yeah.
	I'm just gonna go ahead and do that.
	Okay.
	Welcome back to America first with our special guest host, Rich Barris from Big Data Polls.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	This is Rich Barris, the People's Pundit, in for Dr. Gorka on America First.
	All right, this one, we got to talk about immigration.
	Women see it as a safety issue.
	Working class Americans see it as an economic issue.
	It's about wages.
	It's about policing and crime, safety, education, health care, you name it.
	And Republicans are not aligned with the president or the future Republican nominee on where he on his agenda on agenda 27 is a bold agenda to carry out mass deportations to then again secure the border.
	Now, I want to bring on my next guest to talk about it.
	David Giglio is running in California 20 to fill Kevin McCarthy's seat that is being vacated.
	David jumped in before Kevin McCarthy retired.
	He jumped in to challenge him and now there are opponents in the race.
	Immigration is becoming a huge issue in that race.
	David, thanks for coming on to talk about it.
	No problem, thanks for having me.
	Yeah, you know, I am the only one here that actually stood up to challenge Kevin McCarthy directly to hold him accountable for his years of broken promises and failures.
	And I'm a little disappointed that he cut and ran the second he got the gavel taken away, because I think Kevin owed it to the people of the Central Valley, and I think he owed it to the people of the nation to have to actually answer for some of his failures and his years of broken promises.
	You know, he ran away pretty quickly.
	But yeah, now we have a host of surrogates in the race.
	And it's an important seat.
	It's a deep red seat.
	It's an R plus 25.
	Rich, you talk about this all the time.
	Republicans have an epidemic in the party that we have some of our worst members come from our deepest red seats.
	And these are where the disruptors should be.
	This is where the change agent should come from.
	And this seat deserves a change agent.
	Let me ask you this, David.
	I want to run this clip because you're right.
	You will never find a Democrat in a D plus 20 or D plus 30 that's a moderate Democrat.
	It's hard to find them today anyway, but you will never find one in a deep blue seat.
	Your opponents, you guys have been having forums.
	One of them openly put out, and what is in my mind, it is an amnesty.
	The other one chuckled At the thought of Donald Trump's proposal to remove people who came here illegally under the Biden administration.
	I want to play a clip from Kamala Harris and then I want to talk to you about it.
	Let's run cut to real quick.
	Well, so there is no question that our immigration system is broken.
	And so much so that we, as the first bill that we offered after our inauguration, was to fix the immigration system which included what we must do to create a pathway for citizenship and to put the resources that are needed into the border.
	Let me ask you a question, because anybody can say that.
	Please tell me the difference between what Kamala just said and what Sheriff Boudreaux continues to say on the campaign trail.
	And I've got to say, I'm a big fan of Rick Grinnell.
	I'm a big fan of his work in the Trump administration.
	He got behind Sheriff Boudreaux here.
	That is indistinguishable.
	Well, first off, I'm impressed that Kamala Harris made it through that sentence there.
	get to Kirkland yet who's just wants free flows of illegals.
	Do me a favor, dissect it for me.
	Make me understand.
	Well, first off, I'm impressed that Kamala Harris made it through that sentence there.
	She struggled a little bit, but she got through a coherent sentence.
	But yeah, listen, that's the thing here.
	You know, he's trying to dial this up.
	He has, you know, he has made numerous comments.
	These are his words in interviews to the Fresno Bee, to the L.A.
	Times.
	He has said this over and over again.
	He is in favor of a pathway to citizenship.
	Unfortunately, when he gets in front of voters that he knows are real conservatives and members of the district, he tries to dance around this and dial it up.
	And, you know, given you the old age old Republican established an argument that, you know,
	deporting people is not a feasible path, you know, goes with the dreamers argument
	for pretending that these are all two year old kids that are over them.
	That's not what dreamers are, you know.
	This is democratic tax, pathway to citizenship is amnesty.
	There's anywhere from 11 million to 15 million illegal aliens in our country.
	And if you wanna give a pathway decision, we're $34 trillion in debt.
	It's gonna cost at least $4 trillion of US tax dollars if we grant pathway to citizenship.
	And what's gonna become of it?
	Nothing.
	The 65% of these people are gonna end up on welfare social programs.
	So it's gonna be a massive strain on taxpayers.
	It's gonna be a massive strain on our healthcare system, on our schools.
	on our infrastructure.
	It's just something the American people can't afford.
	And you know, they like to say, well, people that haven't committed crimes, but I say,
	you can't pick and choose what laws matter.
	On day one, these people told you their first act was to tell you that they don't respect
	the sovereignty and the laws of the United States, and they're just going to come in
	If we reward this behavior, the problem is only going to worsen.
	And quite frankly, it still boggles my mind that Republicans can't figure this out.
	Once you grant amnesty, millions around the globe are going to see that, and they're going to come in.
	It's crazy that John Fetterman has more of a Magdalene thing, because he understands, like you said, he understands this is about protecting American workers, too.
	Yeah, let me ask you this.
	It seems like Republican voters have been great at tuning out the nonsense and deciding not to let media and big money pick their presidential nominee.
	But down ballot, you know, money still talks.
	And unfortunately, you've been down this road before.
	You told the voters in your last race that John Duarte would be an amnesty-pushing, Trump-hating, not Republican.
	This is the issue, I think, that Republican voters want your take on this.
	Donald Trump at this moment has got to be seen as a favorite to win the presidency.
	I don't think any political analyst could make a serious case that he is not at least slightly favored over Joe Biden right now.
	But will it matter, David, if all of these people who lie to the voter, they all run as champions of the border, they lie to the president, they lie to the president's people, They get in and they don't support his agenda.
	I mean, your opponents are openly saying, one even laughing, at many major pieces of
	Agenda 47.
	So is this, I mean, honestly, is this a concern that this would stifle his agenda?
	It's a concern because this already happened after 2016.
	I mean, he had a House and Senate that were Republicans, and they're the ones who stopped him from building the wall.
	Listen, I've been an avid supporter of President Trump from day one.
	That's one of the reasons Kevin McCarthy spent millions to stop me in the last race.
	There's an epidemic in the Republican Party.
	You're right.
	People recognize they don't buy the bullcrap from these other Republican candidates in the presidential race.
	But down ballot, money does a lot of damage.
	And last time I ran, Kevin McCarthy They spent about a million bucks sending out 30 something
	mailers promising voters in the 20th district that John Duarte was going to vote to secure the borders, that he was a real
	true conservative and his accent, he's been there.
	He's one of only two Republicans to vote against H.R. 2, the border bill.
	So what they do is they use their money and their deep pockets to convince voters that they're actually supporting
	true Americans.
	True.
	America first MAGA candidates.
	And then when these people get in, they govern however they want because they're not funded by the voters.
	They're funded by Kevin McCarthy and rich donors that don't believe in these things.
	So this is a huge problem.
	President Trump, I think the biggest obstacle to him accomplishing everything he wants to accomplish next time It's his own party.
	And he needs a Congress filled with loyal supporters, not just people who are going to endorse him now that the race is over, not just people that want to get to D.C.
	He needs people that really believe in his vision and the things he's saying.
	Otherwise, he's going to have a difficult time doing everything he wants to do.
	And quite frankly, the country needs him to be able to fully implement Agenda 47.
	And so mass deportations is something he has talked about over and over again.
	It is a key part of his plan.
	There is no one in this race that is willing to say those words on stage and promise voters they're going to support Trump with that.
	I've said it numerous times over and over again.
	I was laughed at by other people in this race, mocked by people in this race.
	They want to dodge the issue.
	I'm with the president on that.
	And he needs people like me.
	And unfortunately, money is a problem.
	And you even see it with President Trump.
	Yeah.
	big and what's going on in New Hampshire right now.
	These big Republican donors that fund the Republican Party, they despise Trump's movement,
	they despise America First, and they're willing to spend their money to trick people and even
	to get Democrats to sabotage Trump and his movement.
	So this is a big concern as I have.
	Because I want- Go ahead.
	Come, let me just say, come to general, they're going to cry poor.
	They're going to cry that they spent all the money in the primary.
	They don't have it to give to candidates down ballot.
	They certainly don't have it to give to Donald Trump.
	Mark my words, that's what they're going to do.
	I'm running low on time, so I just really want you to get this answer to this.
	They can't stand you because of your positions, without a doubt.
	But they also are a clique.
	And you've lived in the Central Valley now for many, many years, but they can't stand that you weren't born in Central Valley.
	What would you say to people who say that?
	You know, I want to support someone who was born in the Central Valley.
	What would you say to them?
	That's an excuse for these clique and the good old boys club in the Central Valley to keep power, because I actually openly talk about this to voters, and I've had voters laugh and say, what the heck does that matter to me where you were born?
	They know that I choose to live here.
	They know that I'm fighting for them here.
	The actual voters don't care.
	And I want to say, this is a deep red MAGA seat.
	The person who comes from the seat should not question anything President Trump wants to do.
	So listen, the president can make a huge impact.
	We have still over a month before this race.
	If President Trump were to come in and say, I endorse David Giglio, we'd win this thing.
	And quite frankly, President Trump should do this around the country regardless of if he wins all of them, because he needs as many loyal soldiers as possible.
	This is the final battle for him.
	This is the final battle for America.
	He needs to endorse as many true loyalists as he can and get as many through as he can, because then he'll be able to succeed and implement his agenda.
	So anybody who thinks I wasn't born here matters.
	I'll tell you what, the people of the Valley don't care.
	It's the good old boys club that cares, and all they care about is getting their buddies elected and keeping the wheels and the developers getting rich.
	So thanks for having me on, and I hope the president's watching.
	Yeah, how are those Central Valley-born people doing?
	All right, thanks.
	David Vigilio, everybody, go check him out.
	Thanks for joining us.
	All right, we'll be right back after this break.
	You're watching America First, Sebastian Gorka.
	I'm Rich Barris, People's Pundit, in for Seb.
	See you on the other side of the break.
	Thank you for joining us.
	We will see you next time.
	Thank you.
	Bye-bye.
	We got to get him to know as much as possible what's going on here.
	I mean, dude, so Bordeaux, like I said, they asked him, he brought up if I'm MAGA, and he's like, well, if Secure Borders makes me MAGA, then sure, I'm MAGA.
	If, you know, wanting to bring jobs back to the U.S.
	makes me MAGA, then I guess I'm MAGA.
	I mean, these people don't want to be attached to it.
	It's unfortunate, but you're right.
	So, I mean, look what they're doing right now in New Hampshire.
	These interviews with these, these are Democrats voting to stop Trump.
	It's so ridiculous.
	Alright, I'll keep you posted, and yeah, talk to you soon.
	Yeah, see you soon, David.
	Thanks for coming on.
	We have Liz Harrington coming on at 5.30?
	I'm forgetting here, but that's alright, I'll look back.
	Come on at 5.30.
	Yeah, 5.30, yeah, because I wanted to get to some of these questions, which are great.
	David, bomb thrower, right?
	Yeah, the rumble chat loves him.
	Straight up.
	President Trump endorsed me and let's crush them.
	Did you hear that?
	I can't believe it.
	He came out swinging.
	Look, it is an epidemic in the Republican Party, just like it was with Ronald Reagan.
	We wouldn't even have the Department of Education right now, gentlemen, if the Republican Party did not stab Ronald Reagan in the back.
	It's unbelievable.
	All right.
	Couple more races I figured I'd ask you about if you don't mind.
	Washington 4, you know that one?
	Yeah.
	Dan Newhouse, how's that looking?
	Look, he's got some problems, which is funny because, do you remember the, and I don't know if I hate bringing it up, but do you remember the sex tape that came out?
	Which one?
	Well, the gay staffers for, uh, what's his name?
	It's one for Dan... Yeah, there's apparently one for Dan Newhouse's staffer, too.
	No.
	Yes.
	And they, from what I understand, you know what Kill and Capture is.
	I mean, you do.
	I'm sure maybe the Rumble Chat doesn't, but...
	Killing capture is when you know a story is coming, or capture the kill, excuse me, and you grab ahold of that outlet that's got it and you kill it, by any means necessary.
	And I'm telling you, that was out there, people knew, and it just died.
	Washington Forgo has changed over the years, so he is tougher.
	than let's say Herrera Butler was for Joe Kent next door.
	And there's also not a count, not yet anyway, and I'm not saying I'm, you know, that there isn't a
	chance for someone to prove themselves, but so far you really would need like a Joe Kent-like
	caliber to be in.
	Unless, maybe not.
	I mean, the X-factor here is that Trump is, you know, is running for the nomination, and that's going to motivate people to come out.
	So he was the one that did survive, you know, the challenges, the Trump impeachers.
	And I think I'd love to see him go, but you know what?
	So far, opposition just can't raise the money, guy.
	I mean, that's really where we're at.
	And he's got money.
	He's got a war check.
	That sucks.
	It's tough.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It does suck.
	It's part of the same thing that David's dealing with, you know?
	It's like the donor's got off the spigots on you and you need that money.
	Alrighty, 15 seconds.
	Welcome back to America First with our special guest host, Rich Barris from Big Data Polls.
	Thanks, Dr. Gorka.
	Welcome back to America First.
	I am the People's Pundit, Rich Barris.
	I'm sitting in for Dr. Gorka.
	Honored to be here.
	It is primary day, first in the nation, primary day.
	We're now getting very close here, a little over an hour and a half.
	And the first polls in some of the smaller townships and cities will start to close 8 p.m., the larger ones.
	And it really is, again, as a Topic of the day suggests.
	It really is the chance for the Trump campaign to put a stop to it, and we're going to talk about that a lot more in the next segment.
	Right now, let's go to the phones here.
	We got Nancy from Philadelphia.
	I hear this a lot from voters when we're polling.
	Can we bring on Nancy?
	Is she on the line?
	Yes.
	Hi, Nancy.
	How you doing?
	I saw your comment, and I hear this a lot when we're polling.
	Tell us what it is.
	Hi, Rich.
	Yeah, I want people to take note that whether it's the Supreme Court or state courts, the government is using unlimited amounts of our tax dollars for all sorts of litigation against our best interests, whether it's our physical safety and security or our financial safety and security.
	And frankly, I consider it taxation without representation.
	Thank you, Nancy.
	I appreciate that because that sentiment, in some way, articulated like I was well articulated.
	But we hear this a lot because there's this general feeling that it's more than just unfair situation.
	It's more than just second class citizens.
	It's like the government is taking your money to assault you, to do things that are against your own interests.
	And for the first time in many people's lives, they're starting to question whether even they know what it is, but they're starting to question the social contract.
	Is this thing really working for me?
	Why am I in a social contract with a government that despises me, that persecutes me, that undermines my way of life, attacks my culture, attacks my ability to make a living?
	I mean, it's just one thing after the other.
	And it's a dangerous place that we're in right now when you have a large, large number of voters feeling that way because Nancy, you're not feeling that way because it's in your head.
	You're imagining it.
	You're feeling that way because it's true.
	And then you have certain people acting a certain way that mock you and they just rub it in your face.
	In fact, can we play clip five?
	Can we do that?
	Because this is exactly what I'm talking about.
	I think Trump is just lying all the time.
	And the people that believe a liar all the time are crazy.
	And I can't even understand.
	I do not understand why 70 some million people out there accept a lying, constantly lying person.
	He did not win the election.
	If you just asked him point blankly, tell us the states that he won that we didn't know about.
	Did he really win in Georgia where he asked the Secretary of State for 12,000 votes?
	Did he really win there?
	Where did he win?
	They don't know.
	They just follow his lead, his lying.
	Yeah, of course.
	They're stupid, they follow his lead, he's lying.
	And these people are totally clueless as to why, and it's not just him, but they're totally clueless as to why anybody would follow him.
	It's because, you know, the system is just bearing down on them.
	And he's the only one who seems to care or represent them.
	And in their minds, they have to come up with these.
	That's why in 2016, instead of facing what Nancy's talking about, what millions of voters in the Rust Belt who voted for Barack Obama were talking about, why did we switch and vote for Trump?
	Thirty-one counties in the state of Iowa Swung from Barack Obama to Donald Trump, more than any other state in the entire country.
	And of course, we know the story, and I love going into deep detail, but instead of paying attention to voters' grievances, like this process is supposed to allow voters to do, and they lost an election.
	That is supposed to result in a course correct, where leaders are supposed to say, okay, what did we miss here?
	What did we miss?
	What are we doing wrong?
	But God forbid they conduct any kind of introspection, the ruling class.
	It can't be that they have failed a whole group of people.
	It can't be that they are trying to, you know, essentially harm an entire group of people.
	It can't be that they failed to deliver on promises they made.
	It can't be any of that because they live a great life.
	They're still eating $200 lunch.
	Chris Matthews, with his tingle up his leg, is still eating $200 lunches every day.
	You know, with his friends like Joe Scarborough and his latte drinking wife.
	They have no idea what it's like to live like the rest of America.
	And you can't ignore those grievances forever and expect the government to continue.
	And I think, unfortunately, what Nancy's talking about is that they don't intend to ignore They intend to just get rid of, in some way, shape, or form, and they're just going to make you submit.
	And I think, honestly, that is why, for the first time ever, again, people are saying, is this social contract work for me?
	Then we're talking about Texas in the last segment, last few segments, and a tweet from Tucker Carlson, which I was thinking about putting up in the queue, but He spoke right to it.
	If the federal government's not going to defend you, in fact, if they're going to spend money to hurt you, where does that leave these people?
	What choice does that leave them?
	They keep voting for politicians who say they're going to do something different and either A, they cave like all the people running with David Giglio in California 20 are going to do, or worse, they were just lying and they don't do anything.
	Best case scenario, they go there with the most earnest intentions and get defeated.
	So ultimately, people are going to start asking themselves, what good is this social contract?
	And that's when stuff starts to break down.
	And I don't even want to bring up the rest of what was in Tucker's tweet, but you should look at it.
	Because He's making a good point.
	It's a very Lockean point.
	We all engage in a social contract with certain understandings.
	If the government is not only not going to provide the most basic, they're not going to keep the most basic parts of that social contract, such as security, the ability to pursue your own happiness, which is, of course, property, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, life, liberty, and property.
	If you can't do that without being disturbed, Then, you know, what good is it?
	And then not only that, like Nancy said, the government's actually working against you.
	That's not a good place to be.
	It's not a good place to be at all.
	Is Robert from Georgia still there?
	Because he was piggybacking off of what the prior caller said, and I think it has to be said.
	Robert, you on the line, buddy?
	On the line.
	How you doing, my friend?
	How you doing?
	Doing well.
	Thank you for your time and talent.
	Appreciate hearing from you.
	Uh, let me I was at the 2006 2016 2018 Cobb County, Georgia Republican Convention.
	Um, and there was a visceral of.
	Feeling that you could get from each of the senior people that I talked to there on the floor in the middle of stuff.
	of a hatred against Trump, the very real despise and attitude of we must stop him.
	I think it comes from the attitude and the closed mouth of the very rich elite, of the GROP elite,
	if you will, who do not want him, do not want the deplorables to have a say. They...
	I've got to stop you, Robert, but your point is well made because we're coming up against a break.
	We'll talk about it a little more on the other side.
	Stay tuned for more Eric Burks People's Pundit Center Dr.
	Borca.
	Yeah, Robert's point's well made though, you know, for humble people out there.
	Yeah, I'll tell a real quick story before we go back on, but I think this is big in the South, too, because there's that certain class of Republicans that have dominated the Republican Party for a while and they don't really like Donald Trump.
	Also, I can tell you guys, They smile when he gets there, but man, California Republicans hate him.
	They hate him.
	Jessica Patterson, who McCarthy was grooming to be the next head of the RNC after Rona's gone, she can't stand him.
	And then, of course, he goes to give a speech in Anaheim, and she's got a, you know what, eating grin on her face.
	Let me introduce him, Mr. President.
	And she's so bogus, so full of it, behind his back, trying to change the rules to Boston delegates.
	So it's real.
	And North Carolina, last cycle, Ted Budd was endorsed by Donald Trump.
	And he was running against former Governor Pat Foley, definitely established Southern And Bud spanked him.
	I mean, it was a brutal, like, 35, 40 point, just demolished him.
	And he's mad now.
	So where now?
	No labels.
	This morning, in making rounds on Talk of the Town, which is a popular show in North Carolina, especially Eastern North Carolina, and the cluelessness of these people.
	He not only was making the case that voters should have another choice, but he was asked point blank by Henry, the host, you know, Pat, I love you.
	We've been friends for years, but can you win?
	I mean, what are you doing here?
	Can you win?
	And he said, Oh, absolutely.
	We can win with 35% of the vote.
	He's out of his mind.
	Donald Trump's vote does not- Hey Rich, you're starting to cut out a little bit.
	I'm going to reconnect to Skype real quick.
	Real quick.
	Two minutes.
	Thanks again, Dr. Gorka.
	Welcome back to American First.
	I am your guest host for the day, Rich Barris, the People's Pundit, in for Dr. Gorka on primary day, New Hampshire day.
	What an appropriate intro, right?
	A little Black Sabbath.
	You know, could be the end of Never Trump tonight.
	And to talk about this, I want to bring on Liz Harrington, the Trump campaign spokesperson.
	Liz, thanks for joining America First.
	Always great to see you, Rich.
	So how we, how we doing tonight?
	You know, I mean, generally speaking, we saw the, you know, we went into this in the last segment, we saw Nikki Haley's statement.
	I wanted to get your take on what, you know, what, what you thought of that, basically saying they have the resources to fight all the way to Super Tuesday, yada, yada, yada.
	What do you, what's your reaction?
	So, translation, we have a bunch of funding from Democrats.
	We're trying to get support from Democrats to be the alternative to Biden or whoever the Democrats put up.
	It doesn't even make any sense.
	That's why the people see right through it.
	I mean, we had a historic showing in Iowa already, which was just absolutely amazing.
	And look, she got crushed by over 30 points, came in third place.
	Look, I think this should be put to bed.
	It should have been put to bed a long time ago, but the American people are so smart.
	This is so much bigger than just about Donald J. Trump.
	It's about the future of our country.
	And you know, Rich, I was thinking, you know, you see some of these exit polls come in and all of that, and they always emphasize, in all polls really, and they claim that this is a negative for President Trump, that a lot of independents Well, think about it.
	If you're independent, you're probably not happy with Democrats or Republicans.
	So who would you want to support?
	President Trump, who literally is the only one who's offered real alternative for the American people.
	So I just think it's a totally media creation, a fake news narrative that President Trump can't win independence.
	He absolutely has before and will again.
	Yeah, I mean, there's a big difference between, you know, who may be voting in New Hampshire tonight versus, you know, what the polls tell us nationally and in other states.
	Obviously, the Harvard-Harris poll just came out.
	Joe Biden in the final 2020 was up 14 points with independence.
	Now, President Trump's up 10 points.
	You know, we knew this was going to happen, though.
	Right, Liz?
	I mean, we knew they made this thing about the ability of independents to vote in New Hampshire.
	I mean, the margin she would have to win them by and then hold her own among Republicans.
	You know, we'll just have to see what those results say when they come in.
	But really, I mean, realistically speaking, from the campaign's point of view, New Hampshire is her best bet.
	You see that, right?
	I mean, you see it the same way.
	That was her best state demographically.
	Where else on the map after New Hampshire, you know, is there somewhere to be concerned about?
	I mean, that's just my—I can't see it.
	There's no path.
	I mean, Rich, what's the path?
	I mean, you can't—MAGA is not just—they call it a base.
	It's not a base.
	It's the largest political movement in American history.
	And you don't have that.
	You're not winning the primary.
	You're not winning a general.
	And she thinks that she can just, you know, subsist off never-Trump Democrat funders in the hopes that Democrat-funded lawfare will somehow prevent President Trump from being on the ballot or, you know, being the nominee.
	I mean, the people aren't going to accept that.
	They're absolutely not going to accept that Democrats fund you to try to steal away the nomination from the people.
	So it's crazy.
	And you're headed to South Carolina, who all throughout this weekend, we've had every major elected official from South Carolina supporting President Trump.
	This is her home state.
	She has no support there, certainly with the people, where she's down by 40 points.
	So there is no path.
	And politics is a very nasty, sick grift that they try to keep the gravy train running as long as they can.
	Let's get down to real business for the people, for this country, to save America.
	That's what President Trump is only focused on.
	That's what he always will be focused on.
	That's it.
	Yeah, we told people too with those exit polls, Liz, they said it's a CNN one.
	They were not very good in Iowa.
	They understated Trump's support in Iowa.
	The AP was better, that vote cast, but two-thirds almost of the electorate, even in their exit poll, is conservative.
	So even if 47% of the electorate is independent, they're more conservative independents.
	So it's like they always misread this stuff.
	The business model itself is broken in the media.
	It's not incentivized to tell people the truth.
	They love the horse race.
	That's what they want.
	And they're draining, they certainly love draining Republican resources.
	So there's really the two arguments I wanted to bring up to you now.
	There's this, well, do it on the other side of the break.
	But basically, do Republicans move forward now to the general election?
	Or do they keep this in the, you know, the rear view mirror?
	And that's what they got to answer tonight.
	Or themselves, period.
	We'll be back after this break with more of Liz Harrington.
	Watching America First, I'm Sebastian Borka.
	I'm Rich Varris, sitting in for Dr. Borka.
	Be on the other side of the break.
	Absolutely pathetic.
	I think that's why they had to lower all their expectations too, I mean.
	Yeah, I think— At the end of the day, you have to have real voters.
	I mean, even if you have machines, you know, at a certain point, sometimes there's just too many real voters.
	President Trump showed up at a random polling place today that no one knew where he was going to be, and it was like a rally.
	It was like a rally.
	The support is amazing, and you can't fake that.
	I was watching and I was thinking of asking you that.
	I think it was Manchester.
	Somebody had sent me a clip, you know, fire department, the police.
	I mean, they're just lined up at the streets.
	And meanwhile, I had a friend who went to a Hale-Eaton.
	I said, do me a favor, walk around, talk to a couple people.
	Let me, you know, give you a couple of things.
	The woman was just like, Having a difficult time because they were upset.
	They thought there would be a bigger turnout at our events and they certainly thought there would be more motivation.
	And they were, I guess, it sounded like they felt beaten, you know, and they just...
	We're negative.
	So, you know, going into this thing, Krista Nuno, and I am going to ask you this live, going into this thing, Krista Nuno was saying she was going to win a couple of weeks ago.
	Well, hands down, he went on every network, CNN, Fox News, every single network and said Nikki Haley is going to win this primary.
	And then a couple of days ago, three days ago, it became, no, I think, you know, she's going to do well.
	And it's going to be like a strong second.
	You know, the goalposts just keep moving.
	At what point do you say we have millions of dollars to get out the vote to do?
	This is a waste of time.
	You know, I mean, this is a total waste of time.
	All right.
	Two minutes.
	All right.
	And I'll get to some of your Rumble stuff.
	Anything on Rumble?
	Anything on Rumble within reason?
	They want me to ask, Liz?
	Well, this is a question for you with regards to New Hampshire.
	This is another super chat from BigPenguinPolling for $2 who asks, Hey Rich, I know you said not to read much, if any, into exit polls, but CNN, which underestimated Trump and Iowa, says the electorate is 63% conservative.
	Seems very bad for Nikki.
	Yeah, and that's what...
	Liz was just talking about they choose to take that 47% unaffiliated number and because that is a lot of unaffiliated compared to normal electorate.
	It's usually like 40.
	It has been as high as 45.
	They're saying it's 47 and they're trying to make it out like that immediately means it's good for Nikki Haley.
	But if it was 50% moderate, you know, or something like that.
	Then it's not a, you know, it's a better electorate for her.
	She's not performed well with conservatives.
	McCain beat Bush with conservatives in 2000.
	So they keep talking about this analogy and, you know, unless they show that Nikki Haley is close with conservatives, you know, the independent number is not good enough.
	It's just not.
	Because she's going to get trounced with registered Republicans.
	So, They choose that, though, is my point.
	So that's the point, Big Penguin.
	They choose that, and they did it in Iowa, too, with the first-time voter thing.
	People who are watching our show remember that.
	Vivek actually has the most first-time voter support, but Vivek had 8% of the vote, and they were using proportionality to make it look like something it wasn't.
	And believe me, they know that.
	They're decision desks.
	They know what they're doing.
	They're doing an amazing job.
	Welcome back to America First with our special guest host, Rich Barris from Big Data Polls.
	Bye.
	Thanks, Dr. Gorka.
	This is Rich Barris, The People's Pundit, filling in for Dr. Gorka on America First.
	On primary day, New Hampshire, first in the nation primary, I'm joined here with Trump spokesperson, Liz Harrington, as we are starting to digest some of these exit polls.
	We're now about a quarter to 6, 7 p.m.
	Some of the state's polls will change.
	Liz, I was just looking at the AP vote cast.
	Another big number, like we saw in Iowa, is saying they want big change.
	The electorate does appear to be about two-thirds conservative.
	You know, how does everybody feel going into tonight?
	And then ultimately, you know, what do you think tonight means?
	Well, look, I think we feel very good.
	We've put in a lot of work.
	President Trump—nobody works harder than he does.
	He takes nothing for granted, just like in Iowa when, you know, you couldn't account for the weather.
	But it didn't matter.
	We had the team in place.
	We had the amazing candidate, who's really the leader of a movement that we've never seen in this country.
	And that's what this is about.
	It doesn't really matter where they live.
	They want the same things.
	And President Trump speaks to all those, and they know that he'll deliver on them, because he delivered once before already.
	And if you're seeing that number that want real change, that's what we actually got with President Trump.
	They want to change back to that.
	Even more so because he'll be able to do so much more in this historic second term.
	It's really about delivering for the people.
	And you're going to get the same old same old with Nikki Haley, who is another globalist, is another uniparty hack.
	There's no substantive difference between her and the people running the Biden government.
	There just isn't.
	There will be no change whatsoever.
	It'll be the status quo into oblivion.
	That's what's happening to our country, and it has to be changed.
	The power has to be returned back to the people.
	President Trump is the one who does that.
	And on issue after issue after issue, you look at what matters to people.
	President Trump delivers on all those, and they know you're not going to get real results with anyone else.
	You know, that's a great point, actually, just to give you some of the numbers as they roll off, issue after issue.
	Immigration is the top issue so far, according to AP Votecast.
	About 4 in 10 said immigration, the economy eased back, but get this, 7 in 10 say that immigrants in the U.S.
	do more to hurt the country than help it, and 80% say they favor the border wall, Trump's border wall, along the southern border.
	3 in 10 said the economy was the number one issue, and 80% say they want substantial change or complete and total upheaval of how this country is run.
	That's their wording.
	So, wait, do they want the chaos?
	Do they want the chaos that Nikki Haley claims?
	You know, everyone, nobody wants this.
	They just want to be, you know, lulled to sleep while the country goes off the cliff, I guess.
	It's so absurd because obviously President Trump does not create the chaos.
	He is the only one who's injecting common sense and fixing problems and ending wars.
	Talk about ending chaos.
	We've got chaos right now.
	But absolutely we need upheaval because look at our country.
	The energy prices, the grocery prices.
	You can't afford to buy a home.
	The American dream is gone right now.
	We have no border.
	There's an invasion.
	Those immigration numbers.
	It's amazing too, Rich, when you think of it, because this invasion that's been going on, the media doesn't cover it.
	They do not cover it, and yet the people are awake, they see it affecting their daily lives, they see it in their communities, and they're saying, enough.
	If we don't have a country, if we don't have a border, we don't have a country.
	And President Trump says it all the time, and he's so, so right about that.
	Yeah, that's the difference between lived experience and media narrative because, you know, maybe you get some hat tips to it on Fox News here and there, but you really do not have a media in this country covering that issue the way that it really demands it be covered.
	I mean, it's probably It is by far up there as one of the top issues.
	But, you know, there's an argument to make that it is the number one issue.
	And so many people see it so differently.
	Women, that suburban women we keep hearing about all the time, they see it about safety, you know.
	And then you have the working man and woman who see it about the economy.
	It affects everybody.
	But I understand what you're saying.
	It's amazing that that number is that high because it does not get the attention that it deserves.
	So let's say she continues on to New Hampshire, not after New Hampshire, and, you know, the media tries to spin however the outcome of this is, and you guys roll on in Nevada and South Carolina.
	You know, you got to play the game, right?
	I mean, of course, you would prefer to pivot to the general and just, you know, start building to get out the vote operation that the party needs to get.
	But, you know, I guess you have to play the game, right?
	If she just doesn't bow out.
	Well, the beauty of President Trump is that his message, he is what he believes and it doesn't change.
	Obviously, you know, certain dynamics change and we're wasting the infrastructure.
	I mean, you're wasting hundreds of millions of dollars in something that was never a competitive primary.
	All of those debates for nothing.
	I mean, when everyone knew the people want President Trump, So absolutely, it's frustrating, I think, to see these big donors pouring in money, trying to prevent the real unity from happening.
	But the amazing thing is also, Rich, unity is happening regardless of what they're trying to promote, some non-existent horse race that's not even happening.
	The party is coming together behind President Trump, they're coalescing.
	And so look, his His number one goal is to save this country, and he's going to do all the work that needs to be done.
	Our team is absolutely incredible that he's put in place.
	They've done so much work in all these early states.
	They're ready for anything, and they're going to continue that work regardless.
	We're not concerned if she tries to limp out of here and continue on.
	The people just, look at the national polls now.
	I mean, Rich, it's incredible after Iowa because they saw what that historic vote said.
	I mean, the message that sends to the country and to most importantly, to the corrupt people in
	Washington.
	I mean, this is a movement to be reckoned with.
	It's not slowing down.
	It's only gaining steam.
	And, you know, if she wants to just live in the old Uniparty la-la land, that's fine, but the people are moving on.
	Yeah, let me ask you this.
	I was going to play it, but you know what?
	I'll spare the people and I'll just give them the gist and get you to react to it because we're coming low on this segment here.
	She claims she's making the pitch to the Senator Tim Scott, all these people endorse her, because you're the establishment now.
	All right.
	Liz Harrington, ladies and gentlemen, from the Trump campaign.
	Thanks so much for joining us, Liz.
	Good luck tonight.
	See you soon.
	All the best.
	Thank you so much.
	All right, folks.
	Thanks for listening, watching everything.
	I'm Rich Barris, People's Pundit, filling in for Dr. Gorka.
	See you on the other side.
	Yeah, I thought I had another 10 seconds or so to get it, but I guess not.
	Nah, it's fine.
	Closed out very nicely on that one.
	What, uh, did we?
	Yeah?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Right on time.
	What, uh, what do we got left?
	This is the final segment, 3 minutes 50.
	And we have, uh, two and a half minutes before we go live again.
	Okay.
	Yeah, some of these, I mean, these CNN polls, uh, the exit polls look a lot different than the, um, just unbelievable numbers in the AP.
	But you know what?
	Most of the polls, the pre-election polls did show that the electorate would be about
	43 to 46 percent independent.
	And that is in fact close to what it is.
	It's much more conservative than I think people thought.
	Conservative independence, right?
	Yeah.
	Like overall, it's about two-thirds conservative.
	You know, Iowa's more than that.
	It's like 80, you know, but that's what you expect.
	But the point is, even these, I mean, this is just crazy.
	3 in 10 said the economy, but 4 in 10 said immigration, and 80% say build Trump's border wall at the southern border.
	This is, I mean, these are big numbers.
	Absolutely, yeah.
	Again, I'm feeling like It won't be as big of a blowout as the polls are saying, but I do think he'll still win.
	Yeah, he's gonna win.
	I mean, with these numbers, yeah.
	I've got some friends who are nervous as hell about all the Democrat crossovers.
	There are a lot.
	6% is liberal.
	Oh crap, I did that on Rumble.
	Thank you for turning that camera off.
	Sorry.
	you you
	welcome back to America first with our special guest host Rich Barris from
	from Big Data polls.
	Welcome back to America First, this is Rich Barris, People's Funding, filling in for Dr. Gorka.
	It's been an honor to close this out, but, you know, laying into New Hampshire here and what we can expect.
	For those who may have missed it or didn't hear it, let me roll this back again one more time before I play a clip that I want to tee up basically the general theme for the rest of the night.
	Four in 10 Republican voters said immigration was their top issue, top issue plaguing the country.
	Seven in 10 said that immigrants do more to harm the country than help it.
	Eight in ten said they want Trump's border wall built at the southern border.
	Three in ten said that the economy was their top priority.
	This, even though it is a more independent and more moderate electorate, as we expected in New Hampshire, this mirrors the result from the Iowa caucuses, as far as preferences.
	And it marks a stark change from 2020 and 2022 general elections, when Republicans were talking about the economy and inflation.
	Eight in ten voters also in the New Hampshire primary said that they would like to see, quote, substantial changes or a complete and total upheaval in how the country is run.
	And again, this continues a theme that emerged from Republicans in the Iowa caucuses through the AP vote cast voter analysis, which is what they use to supplant exit polls.
	Can we play our last clip before we roll into what we're going to take away for the rest of the show?
	We should step back.
	It struck me the other day on Saturday, the three year anniversary of Biden's inauguration.
	And we remember that inauguration, a Capitol enclosed and you remember it very well, a Capitol enclosed by by fencing with National Guard around it, a Capitol scarred by insurrection and a president.
	A Trump leaving Washington in disgrace and here we are just three years later and he is on the verge of a second round knockout and a re-nomination.
	It's quite an extraordinary thing and a little bit sobering.
	It's a lot of bit sobering for them.
	And the truth of the matter is, whether this election tonight is five points or 15 points, I'm a math guy and I like to use the math instead of my own personal feelings or desires to steer what I say and how I give what I always strive to be objective analysis of elections, polls, politics, etc.
	There is nowhere for Nikki Haley to go after New Hampshire.
	She will be beaten in Nevada by 50 points if she carries on, and she will be utterly humiliated in South Carolina.
	Primary physics are paramount.
	You cannot escape them any more than you can escape the natural forces in the natural world.
	This is the way it works.
	Ask Rudy Giuliani how it fared for him when he decided to take one primary loss after the other.
	Democrats know this.
	David Axelrod knows it.
	David Plouffe, who, by the way, is now advising Nikki Haley, knows it.
	And they are acting accordingly.
	Republicans underperformed in 2020, not because the polls were really wrong.
	They weren't.
	The polls were right about vote preference.
	They were wrong about turnout.
	They need to catch up to Democrats or they will underperform again.
	Donald Trump is the only person any of these unlikely voters and non-registered voters tell us could motivate them to vote.
	The strategic smart play is to move forward with him and the banner and build that operation or fail again.

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