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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: President Trump predicts Biden won't be the nominee
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We had a saying in the Trump White House that you're only taking flak when you're over the target.
When they bring out the big guns and especially we found it amusing when the left cloaks themselves in a false appearance of patriotism.
You know you're doing your job well and you just keep on trucking.
Here's an example of exactly that.
It's really disgusting, but they must hate the man because he's doing something right.
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The news of the world, pictured by full movie tone.
An un-American assault on our military.
Traitors to the cause of freedom.
In the annals of modern warfare, we expect foreign enemies to try to undermine the mighty
U.S. military any chance they get.
But now, the danger lies within.
In the hallowed halls of our cherished American democracy, one so-called American senator
who never deigned to wear the uniform himself, single-handedly stops hundreds of military
leaders from taking command, including the chiefs of the Army, the Navy, the Air Force,
and the Marines.
Dangerous dictators look on with glee as Tuberville does their work for them.
He is a legend from Auburn University, now U.S.
Senator for Alabama.
Why are they targeting him?
Well, let's ask him.
Senator Tommy Turbeville, welcome to America First.
Hey, how are you doing?
Glad to be on.
It was a tough day.
It's been a tough 11 months, Sebastian, but thanks for letting me on.
I fought for the military and I fought for the unborn.
And we made some progress, but I'll tell you, this group is so anti-American, it's hard to make a dent in their agenda.
Well, we've been trying to get you on I think for the last four months.
Sadly, we're only doing so after the news yesterday that your Finally letting through hundreds of military appointments from the Biden administration.
You're holding out on, I think, a dozen or so flag offices.
Will you begin to explain in front of our millions of listeners, Senator, why you did what you did?
Well, first of all, I'm for pro-life and I'm 110% for our military.
Now, I've noticed I'm on the Armed Services Committee since I've been here.
They're trying to turn our military into a woke machine.
That only answers to the Democrats and the Socialist Party.
But Joe Biden and his dictatorship, along with the Pentagon, decided they were going to change the abortion policy.
It's been perfect and worked well for 40 years.
Joe Biden even voted for it.
But they changed it with a memo.
And I said, listen, you know, I came here to vote for the people of Alabama and the people of this country.
They need representation.
And we don't Let's not ride over the details here.
That memo was to use taxpayer money through the Pentagon to provide for abortions, correct?
That's correct.
That's correct.
So there was two things.
promotions. I did for 11 months. Let's not ride over the details here. That memo was to use
taxpayer money through the Pentagon to provide for abortions, correct? That's correct. That's
correct. So there was two things, abortion with taxpayer money and executive overreach
by the White House and the Pentagon.
And so we held up these promotions, which I really hated to do.
But we had to do it to get the attention of the left.
And my out was to be able to get in the NDAA, which is the budget for the military, which will be voted on next week.
We had the language of the old policy to go back into effect.
After we passed this budget, but Chuck Schumer in his implement wisdom decided that he was going to play King and he did not allow us to vote on this budget.
He took the policy out of the NDAA, took it out of the budget.
And so now, we have no out.
There's no way we can get it changed.
But he did that because he knew I had the votes to keep it in the budget for this year and we'd have gone back to the old policy.
So your decision yesterday to allow the promotions through, does that mean abortions will be funded or not by the DoD?
It will continue to be funded until we find another avenue.
And they are just happy as heck that they got this done, that they We're going to charge the American people with something with abortion, because after Roe v. Wade, they just felt like that they just had to do everything with any federal employee to get abortion approved and paid for by taxpayer money.
But, Sebastian, we're going to continue to fight this, and we're going to fight it hard because people ask me, so you're not giving promotions to these people that are represented in our military.
And I agree with that.
But the problem is, too, you know, these young people that will lose their life The unborn that will never breathe life into themselves outside the womb will never have a chance for an abortion.
I mean, a promotion.
So it is what it is.
And that's what happens up here.
Elections have consequences, and they push that on the American people.
We're going to fight back, and we get President Trump back in office next year.
We're going to change this back, and we're going to make sure that the American people understand that they do not have to pay for anything to do with abortion.
Well, thank you for fighting for 11 months.
I have to ask you the impolitic question.
It seemed to me and many others that you were a lone voice stopping the taking of innocent life with our money.
Did you have any robust support from your fellow party members in the Senate?
I had four or five, and Senator Mike Lee, Roger Marshall, J.D.
Vance, but I even had Republicans come after me the last few months that was supposed to be pro-life.
But they said they were more for the military.
And, you know, that's the problem with the Republican Party up here.
We don't fight.
We don't build a game plan and stick with it and fight.
Hey, I'm all for the military.
I'm 100% for having a military that's not woke, that goes by the rules, that's built as a machine
that protects the people of this country.
But right now, the direction that this military is going, they can't recruit.
Dick Durbin said on the Senate floor two days ago, let's take illegal immigrants and give them a weapon
and make them, give them an opportunity to earn citizenship through being in the military.
Is he crazy?
Chinese, Russians and Iranians coming across the border who we don't know that they are.
They want to make these people part of our military.
They have lost their mind.
Let me ask specifically, what was your logic to allow the promotions to happen yesterday?
What was the thing that made you change your mind?
We had no way out.
You know, we're boxed in a corner because, again, they broke the law by doing what they did with the budget.
We had no way to get the abortion policy back in the way it should have been.
Chuck Schumer did that.
He knew that he had us.
And I was after 11 months, we needed to promote some of these officers.
We needed to get them in a position where we can build our military stronger and stronger.
But I'll tell you, Sebastian, out all over the country where I travel, even people in the military would come to me, coach, you're doing the right thing.
We're losing our military, stand up for stand up and fight.
And we just have to have more and more people understand Our military is going the way of the Socialist Democratic Party.
It is not the same military that my dad died for, by the way.
He was a career military person.
My brother was in the military.
We have to understand the military has to be our number one institution in this country.
And right now, the Democrats have control of it, and they're running it straight into the ground.
I've been working with the U.S.
military for 19 years, Senator Turbeville, in front of millions of listeners right now.
We've only got a few seconds left.
Can I get your commitment that, God willing, if we do our part and President Trump becomes the Commander-in-Chief again, you will fight to your last breath to turn around the politicized nature of the U.S.
military and get it back to being the finest fighting force in the world?
Number one objective.
We have to have something that will protect this country from foreign adversaries.
And that's what it's all about.
Protect the citizens of this country.
And I'll tell you, the Democrats are trying to do all they can to destroy our military.
They've already destroyed our border.
Yeah.
And those two things go hand-in-hand for the Democratic Party.
Well, God bless you, sir.
Keep fighting.
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Thank you.
We just don't fight.
That's good.
I think that was the best thing that he said, honestly.
So true.
What'd you think?
Good.
Yeah.
Good.
You?
Yeah.
I like the people that have done something before politics that didn't grow up wanting this.
There's a huge difference between those people.
Oh, totally.
Totally.
Alright.
I'm going to use... Did you get the image of the t-shirt?
T-shirt?
Whatever it is.
Oh, the Vets thing.
Yeah, the sticker.
I want to mention that next.
Alright, lots of good cuts.
Angel tree.
Alright, here... Oops.
I want to do... I'm going to use four.
Cut four.
By the way, did you see Hunter is ignoring the subpoena?
No!
And then Comer is supposedly threatening him with... Leg shackles at Reagan?
Yeah.
We'll see.
Yeah.
I'll save you the story.
Come in with 15.
Come in with 15 gains.
Come in with 15 gains.
And then I will use...
Hold on, angel tree.
We've only got one of the...
From yesterday.
Then I'll tee up.
From what?
From the Stefanik thing.
Do you want more?
I guess that's enough.
I guess that's enough.
Do you want to use an audio here?
Yeah, let's use Joseph.
Okay.
Play me cut six.
Six.
Do you think in 11 months he will be their candidate?
I personally don't think he makes it.
Okay?
I haven't said that.
I'm saving it for this big town hall.
I'd never really... I personally don't think he makes it.
I think he's in bad shape physically.
Do you remember when he said, I'd like to take him behind the barn?
If he took me behind the barn and I went like this...
I believe he'd fall over.
I believe he'd fall over.
Who knows?
But it was okay.
And by the way, it was okay for him to say that.
He said, I'd like to take him.
He could say that, and everyone thought it was so cute.
If I ever said it, they'd say, he's a dictator.
He's a horrible human being.
You know, it's a whole double standard we have.
And not only in the law, but just about everything else, as you know very well.
I personally don't think he makes it physically.
I watched him at the beach.
He wasn't able to lift a beach chair, which is meant for children to lift.
You can lift it like that.
And mentally, I would say he's possibly equally as bad and maybe worse, but I don't know.
Coming in with a 15.
Yeah.
And ranking member Lee, if my testimony makes me transphobic, then I believe your opening
monologue makes you a misogynist.
Thank you.
That is how it is done.
We have so many cuts for you today.
That's of course Riley Gaines testifying before Congress yesterday in front of some... I don't even know who that person is but...
If she fell off the stupid tree at the very top, she hit every branch on the way down.
If I'm transphobic, then you're a misogynist.
That's the whole point, because you're denying the essence of what it is to be a woman if you think a man can become one.
God bless you, Riley Gaines.
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Yesterday was quite a day on Capitol Hill.
They had the female, colored, diversity hire presidents of three universities, UPenn, MIT, and Harvard, and they were asked about rampant racism on their campuses.
And God bless Elise Stefanik, because she brought the heat.
She brought the fire to the president of Harvard University, Claudine Gay, a black woman who strangely is incapable of denouncing genocidal anti-Semitic chants on her campus at Harvard.
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Miss Stefanik, you're recognized for five minutes.
Dr. Gay, a Harvard student calling for the mass murder of African Americans is not protected free speech at Harvard, correct?
Our commitment to free speech... It's a yes or no question.
Is that corrected?
Is that okay for students to call for the mass murder of African Americans at Harvard?
Is that protected free speech?
Our commitment to free speech... It's a yes or no question.
For those of you who aren't watching, That woman, with her stupid big glasses, was smirking at that question.
Smirking.
And she was incapable of answering the question as to whether genocidal language against black students or Jewish students, such as being chanted right now, from the rivers to the sea, Palestine will be free, whether that's okay at Harvard.
Now the cut goes on for minutes and minutes and minutes with her smirking and dancing around the issue and saying well it's abhorrent but not saying that it's not allowed.
Now I don't understand anyone who's really racist.
You can have issues with all kinds of people but to say a whole group of One nationality, one ethnicity is somehow substandard.
If that were true, it would be equivalent to saying, well, all Polish people should be killed.
All Swiss people.
But with Jews it's okay.
Why is it okay with Jewish people?
I don't talk about this much, but I won a fellowship To Harvard, back in the 1990s.
I was given something called the Cockerless Fellowship.
A two-year fellowship in public policy to the John F. Kennedy School at Cambridge, Harvard University.
I went there from 1998 to 1999.
And I didn't even do the second year.
It was all paid for.
But why?
Because even back then, we didn't know the word woke.
Only people who lived under communism, like Sheevan Fleet, knew the word woke.
But even back then, it was a politically correct and bigoted cesspit.
I was there with my wife, our one-year-old daughter, and our newly born son.
Our son was born there, Brigham and Women's, in Boston.
And first week of class, I received on my harvard.edu email a general email inviting me to the Harvard Gay and Lesbian Association meeting.
I responded very politely that I will not be attending, thank you very much, because I'm a happily married heterosexual man.
And I'm pretty busy because my son's just been born.
The next day, I was ordered to the Dean's office to be dressed down for my homophobic email because I said I'm a happily married heterosexual man and I will not be attending the Harvard Gay and Lesbian Association meeting.
That's bigotry.
That's authorized thinking.
Must be obeyed.
And by the way, that was 1998.
Quarter of a century ago.
So don't be surprised if right now, at the most elite campuses, and even the crappy campuses, it's okay to call for the death of the Jews.
To chant.
To chant.
From the river to the sea.
There's only one nation that exists between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean.
It's called Israel.
And it's the only Jewish state in the world.
So when you say, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free, you're calling for the extermination of nine million Jews.
As if the Holocaust weren't enough.
We can't let them get away with it.
If you went to one of these schools and you give them a dime, you're an idiot.
And God willing, if we win, If President Trump's in the White House again, we should strip every one of these colleges of every piece of federal funding they receive.
Every single penny.
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Thanks, everyone.
Can you post that, just the story part of it?
Yeah.
Harvard was a home to bigotry.
Back in 1998.
Was already a home for bigots in 1998.
I bet that campus is a gun-free zone.
What do you think?
Probably, yeah.
Yeah, most college campuses are, I think.
and we'll see you next time.
Thank you.
So, that's all.
I should let people know that this is, as you see now in the upper right-hand corner of the screen, this is a little bit ago.
The live shot went down.
We've heard a lot of choppers in this area, so what you're seeing is It's fairly fresh, in that it is what has upholded since the shooting, but this is a few minutes ago, so we're working to get that live shot back up.
I mean, obviously, Las Vegas is no stranger to terrible shooting incidents, and we hope that this is something like what we saw on the strip the first time.
You know, I really find it offensive.
It's like this murder porn where they just have the cameras going and somebody talking, he doesn't know anything about the situation.
It's like, give us an update when there's an update.
Right.
The rest of the time, just get back to work.
All right, we've got to have some president stuff.
Yeah, well, the cut where he talks about Biden, right?
Well, I'd tee that up.
Oh, because there's a C-segment next, and that's a longer one.
Come in with seven.
Come in with 7...
I'll take T.
I don't think Trump gets enough credit for the predictions he makes that do come true.
What, like I was wiretapped?
Well, even all the way back to the whole Confederate Monuments thing, like right after Charlottesville, in 2017, he was like, they'll come for Jefferson.
He was right about Roy Moore, too.
Remember, he predicted Roy Moore would lose the election if he became the nominee.
So for him to say that about Biden, I'm starting to think, nah, that might be true after all.
Why, you didn't think so?
I was kind of on the fence about it just from the optics of it all.
Like, again, they get rid of Biden.
Kamala's next in line, and they all know she's worse.
Trump would crush her in a landslide.
Then, what, they get rid of both of them and it's Newsom?
But then you have to deal with the optical fallout of never before in American history has... Alright, bets now.
Who's gonna be the candidate?
Eric?
I'll say Newsom.
Jeff?
Maybe Newsom.
Alex?
Not Biden, I can tell you that.
Yeah, not Biden.
Uh, who?
Alex?
Gotta give an answer, man.
Don't say Michelle Obama.
Oh, man.
I'm going to go to the next one.
Under no circumstances, you are promising America tonight, you would never abuse power
as retribution against anybody.
Except for day one.
Except for?
He's going crazy.
Except for day one.
Meaning?
I want to close the border, and I want to drill, drill, drill.
That's not, that's not, that's not retribution.
I got it.
I'm going to be, I'm going to be, you know, he keeps, we love this guy.
He says, you're not going to be a dictator, are you?
I said, no, no, no, other than day one.
We're closing the border, and we're drilling, drilling, drilling.
After that, I'm not a dictator.
Oh my gosh, poor Sean Hannity.
I think he had a kitten right there when the president said, I'm going to be a dictator.
Just day one.
Everybody's laughing about it because of course it's a joke, but the liberal minds are exploding.
Jared and everybody else going insane.
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Waiting patiently, Line 1, California, Suki.
Oh, hi, I'm so glad to talk with you.
Okay, um, be quick about this.
The open border, I knew the first day why Biden was doing it, about the Senate, excuse
my language, was doing it precisely to get them to vote.
not exactly what they're doing and nobody talking about it.
I'm worried sick about it.
I don't understand.
Why do you say nobody's talking about it?
We're talking about it here all the time.
My buddies on Salem do.
My buddies on the other networks do.
Levin and everybody else.
What do you mean nobody's talking about it?
Oh, I guess I haven't heard much about it because I really think about it very, very often.
And then I read something today, you know, some blurb that They're going to get because of the eroding voting system.
The Democrats will step in and with the corruption, they probably end up millions of illegals will be somehow get through and get on the voting.
So I'm just wondering if there's some way 2024 we can protect ourselves.
Well, yeah, there is.
You have to get engaged.
You have to get politically active.
If you're not working as a poll official, as somebody who's actually part of making sure that people don't cheat, I mean, just listen to this, Suki.
This is an illegal immigrant in Arizona just underscoring everything you said.
Cut 16.
I love you, Joe Biden.
Thank you for everything, Joe Biden.
I'm a good person.
I want to be a good person here in the United States.
That's what it's about.
They want to get them to be naturalized, amnestied, and then vote for them, because that's just how racist the Democrats are.
Thank you, Suki.
It's Women's Hour.
Let's go to Annabelle, California line 2.
Hi, Dr. Garka.
It's so good to talk to you again.
Hey.
I just want to bring up—this is really driving me crazy.
I want to make a statement first, and I'll be very, very quick.
Obama's handprint He's still on the neck of America, and we can't kid ourselves.
And I had eight years, we all did, of hearing him say, blank, the Jews.
And I just want to make my point.
Every time, and you alluded to it in a wonderful interview with Ellie where you said, first thing he did when he came into office, no Islamic terrorists, FBIC, I can't use the word.
His reaction to Charlie Hebdo, his reaction to Benghazi, Fort Hood, the Pulse shooting, Reverend Wright, Farragut, going to Cuba when ISIS is beheading people and killing the Jews, every single thing he did.
The Iran deal.
I heard, F the Jews, after all of those reactions.
So he set the table on the campuses.
His anti-Semitism goes back to biblical times, for heaven's sake.
But he made it cool, he made it accessible, he didn't say the words, but he set the table for others to say it now.
And I just want to remind people, if you vote for a Democrat in 24, you're still getting Obama and all his disgusting anti-Semitism.
And all of the rest that the Democrats bring.
So I just wanted to make that comment.
Stay on the line.
The point you make is really important, and it's kind of throwaway, but that little half a sentence you had in there, Obama made being anti-Semitic cool.
That's it.
It wasn't just, you know, old school, you know, black or European anti-Semitism.
He made it cool.
He made it hip.
And that's why we are where we are today.
I want to say thank you to you for that incredible analysis.
These are the fingerprints, as you said, the footprint of Biden on America's neck.
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Why would you take calls like this on the air?
Because you're a loser.
Why would I let a loser talk to three and a half million people?
Sure, three and a half million.
I have a question.
What are you laughing at, you prick?
How many listeners do you have?
You don't even have one.
You don't even have one.
How pathetic.
You know you're never going to get through because you're a loser.
You know that.
But I do appreciate you listening to the show.
Thanks for listening to the show.
Do you have an email address for the show?
I have a picture I want to send you.
We don't do dick pics here, and we don't do micro dicks either.
So go away, you sad little sack.
Goodbye.
This is, uh... Oh, and he's on the line, by the way.
Oh, I know.
I can see Steven.
I wanted to show him how we deal with trolls.
That is true greatness.
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Say, say a few more sentences.
Yeah, I like the way you dealt with that prick.
Oh, that's really good sound.
All right, I was worried there.
Okay, good stuff.
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Ph.D.
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And disclaimer here as well.
Oh, the disclaimer as well.
We've stunned Stefanik, which we did.
Cut seven.
We did 7, and then we also did 15, the Riley Gaines.
Did we do 11?
Did we come in with that?
We have not used that yet.
Okay.
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Okay, from the Wall Street Journal, fabulous headline, How to Prepare Every Part of Your Life for a Recession.
How do we do that?
Let's break it down with the man who knows from Key City Capital, the man we trust, Stephen Patterson.
Welcome back to America First.
Thank you for having me, Dr. Gorka.
Alright, so I'm not an economics wonk, so let's start with the scary word.
What is a recession?
Yeah, the National Bureau of Economic Research defines it as a significant decline in economic activity that is a spread across the economy and lasts more than a few months.
The last time we saw a recession was about three months at the very beginning stages of COVID-19.
All right.
So if it's an extended period, when do you know?
Is it usually afterwards that you realize?
I mean, are we in a recession?
Because I know there was some jiggery-pokery and some kind of redefining of things on the fly.
So what are the honest brokers saying about the state of our economy right now, Stephen?
Right.
You know, we get a lot of mixed signals in today's economy.
You know, we had two consecutive quarters of a retraction in the gross domestic domestic product.
That's where, you know, you saw the Biden administration begin to have some shenanigans with the definition.
But rarely is a recession called in real time.
Rarely do we know on the day that it occurs.
Oftentimes, it's after the fact, and we look backwards at the economic activity and we go, aha, you know, for the last six months, this has been a recession.
And what I would say is, if you look at economic factors that we're all experiencing, right, You can get a higher interest on a 2-year treasury than a 10-year treasury.
That doesn't make sense.
The longer your money's locked up, the more interest it should gain.
That's called an inverted yield curve.
We saw the S&P sell off.
10% in Q3, but for the last month we've seen it go up 10%.
We've got high employment, high wage growth, but yet inflation is eating into that.
And so if you ask the average American today, that's why you see the polling that says That we are not in a good economic situation, and I suspect that in the future we're going to look back at this period of time and say that we were in the beginning stages of a recession.
Right.
We'll look back and say, yep, yep, we were in a recession.
Okay.
You and your team at Key City Capital know how to help us out, but first, what general advice do you have about how we weather a recession as Americans?
Yeah.
I mean, you know, let's be honest.
In a recession, we often see unemployment.
Go ahead and get the resume updated.
You don't know when that day may come and you want to be able to respond appropriately.
So, you know, while your life is in a stable position, let's go ahead and get the resume updated.
Let's make sure that we have an appropriate emergency fund.
If we have a prolonged period of reduced wages or potentially no wages due to unemployment, let's make sure that we've got three to six months of operating expenses accumulated.
Current savings accounts Almost 5% in a savings account.
I just saw this over at Wells Fargo a week ago.
You know, great place to be storing your money that you can actively reach and you're gaining a decent interest rate on it.
And then make sure that you're not living outside of your means.
You know, we've talked the last few weeks about home prices going higher and higher and interest rates for homes going higher and higher.
You know, no more than 28% All right.
And then finally, if we're in a recession, how can key city capital help?
What kind of investment strategies can give you a buffer and also some kind of tax flexibility?
Now, oftentimes, what we can find in this type of economy is alternative investments, investments that are not correlated to the stock market or counter-correlated to the stock market, can give you a safe haven.
Now, is that an emphatic truth?
No, but it is a reasonable hedge.
And so what we like to do is we like to look at real estate investments that will cash flow, and we like to look at private debt facilities that provide a fixed rate of return on capital that you need income from.
And that's the area that we specialize in is putting you in contact with investments that are counter-correlated or uncorrelated to what the coming market may look like.
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We'll wait ten minutes.
Alright.
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Thanks, Alex.
Want to come in with something here?
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I announced it on my Twitter feed and my truth social early today and I completely forgot.
But I think we have somebody who was going to remind me.
Yes.
I can't see the name.
Who's the name?
Greg?
Yeah, Greg.
You want to talk about the breaking news from this morning?
Yeah, I just heard about it.
I'm on my way home from work, you know, from my 30-year-plus Navy R&D job.
And, you know, I feel bad for Kevin, you know.
Who are we talking about?
I haven't said what the news is.
Tell all of our listeners.
Kevin McCarthy is not running for re-election.
He's evidently stepping down from his position.
Are you sad, Greg?
I am, in a way.
I liked Kevin, even though I thought he was a rhino.
But the entertainment factor with Kevin I thought was pretty good.
And then it's even more so with his best friend, Frank Luntz, which I come up with an idea to help Kevin.
I occasionally try to help politicians.
What is Frank Luntz going to do with his apartment mate, his flatmate, moving out of D.C.? ?
Well, he's probably not moving out of DC.
In fact, he might move in full-time in Frank Luntz's Oval Office.
Oh, the fake Oval Office.
Alright, I've got to get to another call.
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Anything else, Greg, you want to share with us?
Yeah, I was just going to say, okay, let me ask you the question.
Are the drop boxes still going to be used in the next election?
Oh, I don't think so.
I think Zuckerberg has been burnt by that, but it depends what legislation individual states have brought.
About 12 of them have done their due diligence, but we've still got a whole slew to go.
Great question, Greg.
Let's squeeze in Tom, Arizona, line four.
Hey, Dr. Gorka, how you doing?
Good.
What's your question?
What's your comment?
Well, I just wanted to comment about the Stephanics.
The congressional hearing yesterday?
Yep.
Yeah, those crazy, crazy lefties.
What's the single most used thing that doesn't let conservatives come on campus?
What do they say to you that you're going to talk about?
It's called hate speech, right?
Right.
You can't tell me that the stuff that the kids are saying on campus isn't hate speech.
Well, of course.
Of course it is.
They're all hypocrites, but they don't care.
Right.
They don't care about the hate speech coming from their students, but they say hate speech coming from conservatives.
Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom.
It's not just the students.
It's the faculty as well.
One of the students who was testifying yesterday talked about how the faculty called him a dirty Jew.
It's not just the students.
Where do you think the students got it from?
Thank you, Tom.
Thank you, Greg.
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Jennifer Horne, can we talk about anything I want to talk about?
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First, let's have fun.
Let's have a little bit of fun with the presidential Town Hall in Iowa with my former boss yesterday.
I need to get your take on this because we don't have agreement here at Team America First and I don't like that because I run a benevolent dictatorship and I like everybody to agree with me and the question is who's going to be running in 2024?
Here's President Trump's take.
Cut six!
Do you think in 11 months he will be their candidate?
I personally don't think he makes it.
Okay?
Having said that, I'm saving it for this big town hall.
I'd never really... I personally don't think he makes it.
I think he's in bad shape physically.
Do you remember when he said, I'd like to take him behind the barn?
If he took me behind the barn and I went like this...
I believe he'd fall over.
I believe he'd fall over.
Who knows?
But it was okay.
And by the way, it was okay for him to say that.
He said, I'd like to take him.
He could say that, and everyone thought it was so cute.
If I ever said it, they'd say, he's a dictator.
He's a horrible human being.
You know, it's a whole double standard we have.
And not only in the law, but just about everything else, as you know very well.
I personally don't think he makes it physically.
I watched him at the beach.
He wasn't able to lift a beach chair, which is meant for children to lift.
You can lift them like that.
And mentally, I would say he's possibly equally as bad and maybe worse, but I don't know.
I don't know if you watched the whole thing, but just that line there.
And he'd fall over.
That was superb.
He was really on form last night in Iowa.
If you haven't seen it, guys, I'll find the whole video.
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So is it... I don't know.
At this point, do I just flip a coin?
Is it going to be Biden-Jen or not?
Um, I don't know, but I do have a theory about what we saw from President Trump last night.
First of all, he was on fire.
I mean, he knows how to play the media with the line about being a dictator.
I mean, he was just, he was really on fire.
Oh my gosh, that line, we played it in the first hour.
Even Sean Hannity wet his pants.
And the media today, it's just delicious.
He knows exactly how to troll people, how to get attention for what he wants to say, and to still show his MAGA platform, but, you know, catch their eyes, because he knows that they cannot help themselves if Trump says that he wants to be a dictator, at least for day one.
But I do have a theory about this.
I brought it up in the Morning Answer this morning.
President Trump.
People will always say he's wild, he talks too much, he's got no control over what he says.
I think he has control over every single thing that he says.
And I think he absolutely deliberately delivered that statement last night.
Because I do believe that Joe Biden, who this week said to a group of donors that the only reason he's probably running again is because Donald Trump's in the race and he thinks he's the guy to beat Donald Trump.
Okay.
So I think Trump hears this and he wants to keep Biden in the race.
Who wouldn't want to run against Biden?
I mean, it's a layup with this guy.
And so I think what he's doing is playing to Biden's anger and his ego by saying, well, I don't think he'll be the nominee because he knows that the DNC is going to be pressuring the heck out of Biden to get out of the race.
They're going to try to helicopter someone in at the convention.
And I think he's trying to push to the ego of Joe Biden saying, oh, he's not going to make it because I think he actually wants to run against him.
I think, and this is just the last, you know, few hours, I think there'll be shenanigans.
And I don't think they'll be able to jump across Kamala.
And if it's her, oh my gosh, wouldn't that be superb?
It would be.
And here's, first of all, what people are missing is that a lot of deadlines have already passed.
So if it were going to be Gavin Newsom, let's just say my governor in California, you have to get on the ballot to be a nominee.
So that ship has sailed.
It is Biden and Harris ticket moving into the primaries.
But the Democrat Party is really good at putting the pressure on their superdelegates.
And the convention is where there is a possibility where they could flip out Biden.
I agree with you.
I think they're going to have trouble.
And Larry Elder agrees too, and he was pretty close in the presidential race as well, that they're going to have a hard time pushing out Kamala Harris in favor of a white guy like Gavin Newsom because identity politics are such a huge part of the Democrat Party and Truly, the only group that's really hardcore in the pocket of Joe Biden is black women.
I don't think you can afford to lose them as a voting bloc when you see black men, when you see Hispanic, Latino voters, when you see Asian Americans, all Favoring Republican candidates, particularly Donald Trump, in this race more than they have in past elections.
So I do think it would be difficult and short-sighted to try to skip over the person that could become the first black female president if you are a Democrat.
And how solid, how much do you think we can trust the reporting, Jen, of the 20% of black Americans who now say they're voting for President Trump?
Do you believe them and is it sustainable for the next 11 months?
I don't know if it's a state.
Look, anything can happen in politics.
But I do think that President Trump, despite what the media and the left wants to throw at him, appeals to everyday Americans and people of all different makeups.
I mean, I know in my own life Just talking to the people that I'm around in my social circles, they say, you know what, we didn't vote for President Trump the first time, but we're more excited to vote for him now because Joe Biden has been such a huge disappointment.
There was nothing that he's brought that's delivered for the minority groups he has not that he made the promises to.
So I do feel hopeful that those polls are true.
But I also think that we shouldn't fall into the trap that Donald Trump is just going to skate to victory because then we get complacent, we don't show up, and this is going to be a game as to who can get to the polls, who can bring their friends to the polls, and how we can outplay the Democrats who are going to try everything they can to scratch together a win.
You say President Trump always knows what he's doing and what he's saying.
Gotta get your take.
We've got a couple of minutes left in this segment.
This is the Levi Strauss scion who decided for a hobby he'd become a congressman.
This is Daniel Goldman who... I don't think he knows a lot about guns.
This is how he's gonna stop the cartels in Mexico.
Cut 13.
Unfortunately, the Mexican drug cartels have that authority because they possess guns and weapons of war.
But unfortunately, those weapons of war come from American manufacturers, not from Mexico or elsewhere.
I have introduced a bill called the Disarming Cartels Act, which is designed to curb the exportation of weapons manufactured by American companies to the drug cartels, which fuels the fentanyl trade operation.
There's not yet one Republican co-sponsor.
I would urge my colleagues on the other side to recognize He thinks he'll stop the cartels by stopping legal gun manufacturing.
Do you think Daniel Goldman has heard of the AK-47?
Because the Soviet Union made more than 80 million of them.
Well, this is the same—I mean, this is—the guy's tie has more brain cells than he does.
I mean, this guy is an empty suit who is a political actor who just does what he told—does what he's told.
He gets marching orders from somewhere.
But this is the same argument that liberals make all the time.
Oh, we can stop murders.
We can stop gun violence if we just take away guns from good people.
Do you think the drug cartels care for one minute where they're getting their guns from, and if Daniel Goldman doesn't like it or not?
I mean, it's just so ridiculous.
I wish we could get serious about solving the problems instead of having this guy, who's just an imbecile, floating ideas that are ridiculous and would never work.
I wish, as a Jewish-American, he'd have more passion about what's happening to the people of Israel.
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you We have a man that can't put two sentences together.
We have a man that doesn't know he's alive.
And he's backed up by the media.
The biggest problem we have?
The media.
The media is fake.
I came up with a term a long time ago, and they won't talk about it.
Let me ask you this.
If I did some of the things that he did, they'd reinstitute the death penalty.
Okay?
They don't want to talk about it.
When he gets paid three and a half million dollars from the mayor of Moscow's wife, when I brought it up at a debate, and Chris Wallace was moderating.
How's he doing, by the way?
Not too good.
Chris Wallace.
What ever happened to Chris Wallace?
And I said, why is he getting three and a half million dollars?
I want to ask him that question.
And Chris Wallace interceded because Joe didn't know he was alive.
And so Chris Wallace interceded and he said, and he said, you shouldn't be asking that.
And now it's a big subject.
And I talked about it literally three years ago.
So on form, he doesn't even know that he's alive.
That's slow, Joe.
And he got really angry a few minutes ago.
He walked out of a press conference in the Oval when somebody said, a reporter actually did some random reporting.
What did Rush call it?
Drive-by journalism.
He said, what do you mean you didn't have meetings with Hunter's business associates?
And he said, lies, lies, lies!
And he walked away from the podium.
Joe is feeling the heat.
We're going to continue our discussion with our good friend, West Coast Warrior Princess Jennifer Horne.
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All right, Jennifer, I even forgot to mention it in the first hour of the show.
One of our great listeners called in and said, hey, Kevin McCarthy's gone.
Your reaction to Kevin McCarthy and to this tweet I just read.
On my Twitter feed from somebody who's been a massive disappointment to me personally, she's been on the show quite a bit but not since January, and that's Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene.
And she posted this after Kevin McCarthy said he's leaving.
Well, now in 2024 we will have a one-seat majority in the House.
Congratulations Freedom Caucus!
I can assure you Republican voters didn't give us the majority to crash the ship.
Hopefully no one dies.
Not very constructive.
No, and especially when you think that it's Kevin McCarthy's decision to leave.
He was really concerned about the Republican cause.
He wouldn't run for re-election.
He would just stick around and be a number for Republicans.
But he doesn't want to go.
He's taken his ball and he's going home.
And I really think that what he is planning on, and I don't think this is a stretch, He's going to be a huge fundraiser.
He's going to get involved in the party, and he's going to work against people in the Freedom Caucus.
He's going to work against Matt Gaetz.
He is going to try to bring in more do-nothing Republicans, and that is a real danger to us for obviously many reasons.
I don't think it's helpful for Marjorie Taylor Greene to come out and be upset with the Freedom Caucus because Kevin McCarthy is a big boy.
He made the rules.
He did it.
I mean, he really did it.
He made the rules.
He made the deals.
He didn't abide by the deals.
Look, we could argue all day long about whether it was right to boost him, but we're in a far better position with Speaker Johnson than we were with Speaker McCarthy.
So, you know, his decision was to leave the Republican Party.
So where's the heat on him?
Yeah, and you know, you just made me think of something.
I compared the way McCarthy was treated by the press for 11 months to the way Mike Johnson has been treated for four weeks, and you realize which one is the real Republican, don't you?
Of course.
And I know not everybody is going to love what Speaker Johnson is going to have to do, because he is going to have to make deals.
That's the plight of having such a slim majority.
But have you noticed that there just isn't as much drama around him that was around Kevin McCarthy?
I mean, it seemed like everything that Kevin McCarthy did was somehow baked in controversy.
So why wouldn't we ride this out, be happy that we have the situation that we have?
Yeah, it was a little messy for a little while, but people have moved on.
They've forgotten about it.
Now let's just get back to work.
You know, it is interesting to see what's going to happen in that district with Kevin McCarthy.
It's pretty reliably red.
He's held that seat for a long time.
That's the area that covers Bakersfield, Tehachapi, Central Coast.
My uncle actually lives in that area.
Kevin McCarthy is or was his congressman.
And I do think that they can keep it in the House.
I do think they'll be able to get a Republican back in that district.
So hopefully it won't be a loss of numbers.
But Kevin McCarthy was really dialed in to the California GOP.
And I'm very curious what that's going to look like right now and how the state party is run, because he had lots of control over every single decision that was made.
I think you're right.
He's going to be attacking Freedom Caucus members.
We've got a couple of minutes left.
Update.
The shooter at the University of Las Vegas, Nevada has been found deceased.
There will be an update from the local authorities imminently.
We will share that with you.
Let's talk about California news.
You said something to me in the break that I could not believe with regards to the war in the Middle East.
Share that with our national listeners.
Do you ever feel like you wake up and you're like, either in an article from the Babylon Bee or the Onion, or you feel like you're in a fever dream of some kind because things don't make sense?
Jennifer, I live and work in Washington.
And I live in California, so it's a fever dream pretty much every day.
But I couldn't, you know, it's just unbelievable.
Every day we've been seeing all of these students protesting Israel, standing with Hamas terrorists.
And it kind of makes you shake your head, like, where did this come from?
Now we know some of them have come from the Oakland Unified School District where today teachers have taken over and they are doing a Palestinian teach-in.
Not making this stuff up.
They have curriculum and this isn't just for, we're not talking about colleges here, we're talking about kindergarten through high school where teachers have decided that they are going to bring in pro-Hamas, pro-Palestinian curriculum for the day.
We've got a minute left.
Give us the most horrendous example of what the Palestinian teach-in is doing, Jen.
Draw what you think a Zionist leader looks like.
Wow.
They also are teaching, I is for Intifada.
And I'm not making this stuff up.
This is not like some joke.
This is all real.
And the superintendent has been speaking against it, but it is happening today.
You know, these are the moments where I really think, yeah, this is a fever dream.
Pinch yourself, Gorka.
I is for Intify.
I mean, have you ever?
Ever.
I mean...
God bless you, Jane.
I'm looking forward to a little bit of sanity on our cruise.
That's all I'm saying.
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Where else in it here right now?
It's crazy.
All right.
Who organized that?
That was the local authority?
The teachers.
Yeah, the teachers and even the superintendent was like, wait a second here.
We can't do it.
Yeah.
I'll send it to you right now.
Amazing.
Between that and the Capitol Christmas tree thing I heard about.
What was that?
They moved, yeah.
Newsom had to move the Christmas tree lighting.
Well, that's like the cancellation of the menorah here in Virginia.
Funny thing.
Apparently they don't like a Christmas tree.
Joel Pollock was actually funny today.
He said, but how did he put it?
He said, you know, if you're trying to make your point to Americans, it's best not to attack their Christmas trees in Santa Claus.
Do you have him on regularly?
He's on once a week.
Yeah.
Yep.
All right, you guys.
Well, I'm going to send you this story and you all have a great rest of the week.
Thanks, buddy.
Okay.
Bye.
Alrighty.
Is our guest here?
Jeff left.
I presume to go get him, but he hasn't come back yet.
Titles for Jen Kevin McCarthy will attack the Freedom Caucus full-time now
I I
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Our good friend Congresswoman Mary Miller was on fire yesterday with these racist bigoted Can you give us some insight into why Joe Biden was paid almost a million dollars by UPenn?
What were his responsibilities when he was at UPenn?
Congressman Miller had a very good question for the president of that university.
Can you give us some insight into why Joe Biden was paid almost a million dollars by
UPenn?
What were his responsibilities when he was at UPenn?
Did he teach a class?
I appreciate the question.
President Biden was a professor of practice at University of Pennsylvania for a little over two years.
My understanding is that his salary was $400,000 a year.
We also had Mr. Jeb Bush as a professor of practice at University of Pennsylvania.
President Biden had a wide variety of obligations.
He was in many different classes.
What obligations exactly did he have?
He held seminars.
He was in many different classes.
He interacted with thousands of students over the time he was there.
He invited speakers.
The goal of the center was to enhance— For $400,000, anonymous Chinese donations poured into UPenn after your university hired Joe Biden, and he appeared to have a no-show job.
I love that description.
A wide variety of obligations.
For $400,000?
Not too shabby!
And at the same time, massive anonymous donations coming in from Communist China to you, Penn.
Yeah, I think we know where Hunter Biden gets it from.
God bless you, Mary Miller.
Jeff, let's get her back in the roster of guests.
It's been far too long.
All right, I promised you we're going to talk about what's happening around the world, the geopolitics of a collapsing international order under the Biden administration.
We've got our good friend who's been fighting for vulnerable peoples in hell holes across the globe.
Welcome back in studio, Jason Jones.
Sebastian Gorka, happy St.
Nicholas Day.
Indeed, indeed.
My son this morning, he may be 6'6 and 23 years old, but he had some chocolate Santas in his booties for the old European tradition of St.
Nicholas Day.
I'm not going to ask you about this beautiful red velvet bang you brought into the studio yet, because we haven't spoken since the events of October 7th.
And as a guy who goes to the most dangerous parts of the world, former member of the US military, your reaction to what we've witnessed, not just there, but the reaction to it here in America.
Yeah, it's the enthusiasms of hatred.
You talk about the collapse of the international order.
The idea that, you know, the nature of my job is I get to kind of know intimately these vulnerable communities.
For example, the Jewish community is so very diverse.
Like right now, we have armed guards, my organization, outside of synagogues in Nigeria.
And churches, we're very involved defending Christians in Nigeria.
The Samaritans, you know, that go back to the first temple era Jews.
So I really get close to these communities.
Also the Palestinians, we work with religious orders in Gaza.
And so to see a Jewish student punched in the face in Harvard Yard is really unimaginable.
to see Palestinian boys shot in the United States for their ethnicity.
It's unimaginable.
But, Sebastian, this is where it is the collapse of the international order.
This is what we're seeing all over the world.
And would you agree with my analysis that that's a function of a lack of leadership in the White House?
Well, look at this.
American weapons in the hands of terrorists killed a Holocaust survivor. You had American weapons that
were from Afghanistan in the hands of a terrorist that killed a Holocaust survivor. The
ham-fisted, catastrophic way that we handled our post-9-11 strategy has made the world
less safe.
Al Qaeda is larger than ever.
Except for four years, Jason.
No!
And can I tell you?
We'll talk about those four years.
We'll talk about what you're doing in Afghanistan and elsewhere.
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Alright, so where have you just come back from?
Where have you been?
Well, I just came from Texas, this trip.
I think since I've last seen you, I rebuilt the schools in Lahaina, we built the tent cities, and we've been very, very busy.
I think I've been everywhere since I've last seen you.
Middle East and my January, February, I don't want to talk about on the air.
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Where's that?
Where's that conference?
It's in DC.
IRF.
Alright, so a concerned citizen's at the top here.
Yep.
Do you know if I wrote I wrote this exposé in 2016 and never got any coverage.
James Biden worked with a company called Hillstone, I believe it was Hillstone International, in Iraq, 1.3 billion dollars, didn't send a port-a-potty.
I worked closely to, you know, I was there, so I got the story from someone in the government, wrote the article, I think it was for Catholic Vote, didn't get any traction.
And, you know, I thought this was a huge story.
We had a Republican partner.
Oh, there you go.
No, no, no.
Fifty seconds.
Right.
Yeah, he just made a lot of money.
Congress. But that yeah that story just got no traction so I'm hoping what they
did in Iraq like his brother gets the contract to rebuild the cities that were
destroyed by his brother's foreign policy. I mean it's the sickest thing in
the planet Earth and they didn't build jack crap. Right yeah he just made a lot
of money. 30 seconds. The Kurds would tell me that the Bidens were Arabs.
They'd say, you know, if you give a Kurd a million dollars for a bridge, you're gonna get a really good $500,000 bridge.
$500,000 bridge.
It's that.
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We talked with you, Jason, about the four years of sanity and safety in America and the world.
I just have to play this cut because it really It's vomitous.
It is a man who took the oath of office to serve President Trump as his Defense Secretary, Mark Esper, and I guess he's taken the bag of silver coins, cut ten.
Trump really kicked into a different gear in 2020.
He'll have four years to go at it and really chip away at the institutions of government, at our norms.
He'll be able to, you know, enact his policy of revenge that he's been talking about and retribution.
And look, it's quite a dangerous time for our democracy if that were to happen.
It's one thing to have, you know, the leftist lunatics like Robert Kagan and others talk about President Trump, the Nazi term, too.
But this is Mark Esper.
You have no honor.
You took your job in the Pentagon, in the Trump administration, and now you're saying he's the problem, he's the threat.
Will you explain how wrong that is in terms of what you're doing in Afghanistan and what the consequence of Biden's victory?
Can I go back to Iraq?
Yeah, I want to go back to Iraq.
Do you remember when there was a fish restaurant in Mosul, I think it was called Trump Fish?
They loved him there.
I was in Iraq prior to Trump coming into office and it was hell on earth.
The U.S.
State Department was not responsive.
I would be going to the internally displaced camps asking if the U.S.
State Department has come.
I met with a very influential woman from a Kurdish minority and asked if she had met with the State Department.
She said yes once, and in the meeting they told us that they were focused on LGBT issues, not ethnic issues.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Iraq? In Iraq. During the ethnic cleansing of the Kakai, the Yazidis. This is the same
time I remember a friend of mine told me, a leaguer at an FBI, legal attaché, there was a
water treatment facility or a waste treatment facility outside of Baghdad
where they literally found hundreds of bodies just dumped.
Just people who had been executed politically in... and they're talking about
LGBTQ?
I would go through villages as the Peshmerga were liberating them and the oppressive smell, and I hate to say it, of human flesh and buildings that were detonated, set on fire with the Yazidis in the buildings was unbelievable.
Donald Trump stopped the total ethnic cleansing of the Yazidi people, the proto-Semitic people.
When Abraham said goodbye to his family, he was saying bye to the Yazidi Kurds.
And these are the people who were targeted explicitly by ISIS.
And treated brutally.
You know, that is something that people don't remember.
It's strange to me.
We have seen the ethnic cleansing of Artsakh under this administration.
We have seen World War III, you know, in the East and in Europe.
We have seen the eastern border of Ukraine trashed and brutalized.
And that's Israel.
We see the rise of ISIS.
There was an ISIS attack in the Philippines on Sunday, bombing a massive public university.
But nobody's talking about it.
No one's talking about it.
So what are you doing for the vulnerable people?
What's in your velvet bag?
Well, you know, we are.
I'm here kind of to brag.
It's official now.
We've done the math.
I have delivered more coal on Christmas.
Coal?
More coal for Christmas.
Not to the bad boys and girls.
Than Santa Claus ever has.
Well, it's for you to judge because Santa sent me here for you.
And, uh, you know, here is your Christmas present from Santa.
And what we do is we started doing this... Oh my gosh, he's not joking.
I got a real big piece.
Merry Christmas.
Happy St.
Nicholas Day.
You know, St.
Nicholas... What happened to the good boy?
Krampus is bringing the coal.
Well, you have to listen.
We deliver coal only to good people.
Explain your mission.
Well, our mission is to keep the most vulnerable families alive through brutal winters, especially
the widows and orphans of our Afghan allies who were killed in action, who are at the
bottom of the social hierarchy in Afghanistan, but also those religious minorities like the
Hazara and other communities.
So you're actually bringing fewer...
All across Afghanistan.
...like widows and orphans?
Yes, of our allies who were killed in action.
It's you know how this happened?
We rescued a lot of folks when Afghanistan collapsed.
We set up networks of safe houses.
We built a pretty large network to take people out of Afghanistan.
The people we took out said, hey, what about the other SIVs?
What about the widows and orphans of their allies?
What about our allies who are wounded and have no legs and are begging on the streets of Kabul because they fought for the United States?
What about them?
So we took the network we created to take people out to distribute food and coal all over the country.
And in fact, the present government in Afghanistan has stayed out of our way and actually sometimes provide security for our teams.
We distribute coal over mountain passes with donkeys.
How did I...?
I'm kind of speechless.
If you go to thegreatcampaign.org, you can see all the videos and footage.
Hang on, how can people support you in this?
You can go to thecoalforchristmas.org.
Coalforchristmas.org.
And you, $250 keeps a family alive, whether it's an SIV family, American Allied family, religious minorities.
It'll keep them alive through the winter.
To think, 40 million hours of heat.
How did you get this idea?
It's amazing.
It's just so simple, but so beautiful.
Well, there was an American, his name is Prince Wafa.
He was Special Forces, an Afghan-American, earned his citizenship.
When his wife was trapped in Afghanistan when it collapsed, my organization moved to rescue him.
As a U.S.
citizen with a blue pass, it became very challenging.
And I found a way to rescue him.
It was going to cost us almost $200,000 to get him and his wife out of the country.
This was in September of 2021.
He said, Jason, we don't want to go out over land.
It's too scary.
And he hid, he took great risk, and we eventually got him out on a State Department plane 90 days later, but it was a great risk to himself.
When he got back to the States, he said, the reason I didn't want you, it wasn't that I was scared to go overland with my wife.
He snuck into Afghanistan to get his wife.
He said, that's a lot of money for me and my wife.
Let me show you how many families we can keep alive of our allies through the winter.
And we created this Coal for Christmas campaign, and it's grown every year.
Every time I meet this guy, he's doing another amazing thing.
I can't keep up with him, but maybe we can support him.
This saves lives.
It is a massive lump of coal.
These people fought for us and bled for us.
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there's a sniper.
She was the first female governor in Afghanistan, Hazara.
And the US government totally screwed her.
So my organization came in and helped.
So through her I have her entire network.
She's from the most powerful Hazara family.
So then what I kind of do is I let them all know we're sourcing coal through different communities.
So you source it locally?
Locally, you know, we are sort of like Green Berets.
We knit together the communities we serve to serve those communities.
We train them, we provide them the resources.
And the local distributors?
And it's very, when you see, like I can send you, we use trucks to the urban areas, donkeys and mules to the mountain areas.
One village, it's so far, it's like 28 miles by donkeys.
They never, since Alex, they've always been outside, even when the U.S.
was there.
What ethnicity?
Hazara.
Not pomegranate, just don't make a bloody pomegranate.
Those idiots.
ethnic communities and my real goal is once we get back in the White House is
we're even starting an apple business like you know we are not pomegranate just
don't make a bloody pomegranate those idiots the most water-intensive bloody
imagine we're gonna grow it if can Is that what they, was it pomegranates?
Yes!
Obama!
Pomegranates!
These people are just so dumb!
Why don't you grow almonds?
You want to have something even more water intensive?
They're cretins!
Pomegranates!
These people, what did we do for two decades?
I'm kind of wanting to know.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a lot of money.
That's the question.
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You know, I'm not sure I'm going to be able to do that.
Here's looking at you, Snowflake.
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This is a civilizational war as far as I'm concerned, whether it's Jews being targeted, whether it's Christians, Yazidis, you name it.
Nobody's talking about this.
Talk about what happened in the Philippines recently.
Yeah, it's striking.
So on Sunday, a mass, a Catholic mass at a public school in Mindanao, a predominantly Muslim region, was attacked and four students died.
Many, many, many more were injured.
And so you talk about A weakness of leadership in the world, the collapse of Afghanistan, where we projected power to the east, how we had human intelligence through the entire region, is vanished overnight.
So extremists are emboldened to think an ISIS attack.
And these are jihadis.
We have to be clear.
These are jihadis.
And they were ISIS.
This was an ISIS attack in the Philippines.
And these are regular occurrences.
This was a very brazen attack.
But this is what happens when we have an absence of leadership.
And look, my organization is the Vulnerable People Project.
We are a Christian apostolate.
We're inspired by Solomon when he said in Leviticus, I looked over the whole world and all I saw was oppression on the side of the oppressed.
Oppressor was power.
On the side of the oppressor was power and on the side of the vulnerable was no one.
We want to be with those Who are vulnerable.
We want to stand between the vulnerable and the violent and the powerful.
So instead of the garbage social justice narrative of oppressor.
Fainting.
You're talking about the real world.
Saying they're going to make a coal free world.
Right.
A coal free world is a world free of Africans and South and Central Asians.
That's genocide.
If you say you want a world without coal, what you're saying is you want a world without Central Asians.
You want a world.
So I want to go to this.
This is very important.
When I saw the clip of the former Secretary of Defense saying this nonsense about President Trump.
The world was never more peaceful.
The communities I serve... It was the easiest... I founded this organization in 2002.
It was a triumphant... Those four years were the... Triumphal four years!
It was, yes, an easy and like a catharsis to see the Yazidis freed and the Christians, the first century Christians in the Middle East.
The past... This Biden administration has been one ethnic cleansing after another, one genocide after another.
Food insecurity like we have not seen since World War II.
We need to continue the discussion.
I just salute you and everybody at thevulnerablepeoplesproject.com.
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Now a very special one-on-one with none other than Professor Alan Dershowitz.
Do not touch that dial.
You You
You It's very ominous, it's very dark
Why would we have in one weekend numerous headlines from the establishment press such as these published in America?
Quote, a Trump dictatorship is increasingly inevitable.
Next, we have why a second Trump presidency may be more radical than his first.
Liz Cheney says US sleepwalking into a dictatorship with Trump as GOP frontrunner and then a massive piece in the Atlantic if Trump wins the staff of the Atlantic on the threat of a second term And what it poses to American democracy.
What a strange way of talking about the choice of the American people.
What does it mean and how does it tie into a man who warned us in his penultimate book, we'll be discussing the latest one momentarily, get Trump The threat to civil liberties, due process, and our constitutional rule of law.
Number one New York Times bestseller, Professor Emeritus for Law at Harvard, Dr. Professor Alan Dershowitz.
Welcome back to America First.
Thank you for having me.
Professor, it sounds trite, a kind of throwaway line, but it seems that those who are talking about the threat of dictatorship are the ones who are most promoting authoritarian concepts in America.
The idea that the choice of the American people to re-elect the problem is the threat to democracy, it rather beggars belief, does it not?
It does, and we remember that the same thing was said about Abraham Lincoln, and the same thing was certainly said about Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and other political leaders throughout history.
People have said if they get elected, it will bring tyranny to the United States.
We have a very, very strong system of checks and balances, and even if somebody wanted to become a tyrant, It would not be really possible.
My former student, Jamie Raskin, just recently said in an interview that if Donald Trump is elected president, he won't leave office at the end of his term.
And then he said, anybody who doesn't agree with that is too naive to be let out of their house alone.
Well, I'm thinking about sticking to my house because I don't believe that for a minute.
I don't believe that Donald Trump would fail to leave office, more than any other president previously failed to leave office.
Look, I think he lost the last election fair and square.
He disagreed with that.
But if he ends his term, the Constitution makes it very clear that you can only serve for two terms, he will leave office.
And I'm absolutely positive of that.
If he didn't, the Supreme Court and the legislature would be sure that he did.
So we have nothing to worry about in terms of tyranny coming to our shores.
We have a system that makes that virtually impossible.
The fact that such an accusation is made is of course absolutely counterfactual because I was there at Andrews Air Force Base on January the 20th 2021 when I watched President Trump get on his plane with Melania as he returned as a private citizen to Florida As the swearing-in was occurring for the 46th President of the United States.
So he left office then, why would he not leave office next time?
But I'm concerned of the darker secondary and tertiary consequences of what seems to be a drumbeat, these talking points with the establishment media of the Trump fascist dictatorship is coming.
You actually said on my show, when I had a guest host on maybe a month ago, that you fear for the life of the president.
And I just think that if you've been saying for six years that President Trump is a fascist, is a Nazi, then we have the likes of Robert Kagan, the editorial board of The Atlantic say exactly the same.
Well, we know that a Californian traveled to the home of Justice Kavanaugh with a gun, with a knife, with zip ties to kill a justice of the Supreme Court and only by the grace of some last-minute loss of confidence turned himself into the police.
How dangerous, Professor, is this language of impending dictatorship approaching?
It was even more dangerous following October 7th, because now we have people around the
world calling for a jihad, which would include trying to kill the president and other officers
in the United States.
And the Hamas efforts in the Middle East have generated tremendous support for Hamas, and
copycat crimes are very, very likely.
And so I think we're going to see terrorism of the kind that we saw during the Weathermen
in the 1960s and 70s in the United States.
We're going to see young college kids, who I call Hitler youth, wearing not swastikas,
but green headbands, calling for the end of the government.
And if Trump is elected, I think there will be grave threats on his life.
by people from the extreme left, the same people who are now marching and demonstrating
and trying to prevent people from going to class, the National Lawyers Guild that won't
allow speakers to speak.
It's a short step.
You know, I think it was George Bernard Shaw who called assassination the ultimate form
of censorship.
And we see organizations like the National Lawyers Guild calling for censorship of speakers who support Donald Trump or who support conservatives or Republicans.
So I think that the likelihood of an attempt on the life of Donald Trump would be very substantial from the same people on the hard left who today support Hamas.
You are a champion and you have been of civil rights for decades, Professor.
You've written numerous works on it.
You've practiced it.
You've fought for civil rights for the First Amendment.
What is the responsibility incumbent upon decent people How do we respond when luminaries, talking heads of the media establishment, former Congresswomen like Dick Cheney, are using such incredibly incendiary language?
What is left for us to do by response?
Exactly what we're doing now, responding in the court of public opinion, embarrassing the people who say it, Make it clear it's not going to happen.
Educate the American public about our system of checks and balances, how the brilliant framers of our Constitution—I read every word of the debates over the Constitution back in the day—how they worried about this, how they worried about tyranny.
And have they built in mechanisms to make sure that even if a person was inclined to a tyranny, that person could never achieve it.
As Madison put it, if men were angels, we wouldn't need constitutional constraints.
But they're not.
And as a result of that, we have a system of checks and balances.
By the way, a system that makes it very hard to get things done.
Even if there were a person who were trying to become a tyrant, Our Constitution simply would not permit it.
We have too many checks and balances.
And as the great Judge Lerner Hand once said, the best protection against tyranny lies in the hearts and souls of Americans.
We are anti-tyrant.
We would never tolerate a tyranny by anybody.
So there are a great many things we have to worry about in America, but Donald Trump failing to leave office or imposing a tyranny by one branch of the government is not one of the concerns that we need to put in the forefront.
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I think that's the way the system is supposed to work, even if you are, you know, not sure why you're being with the spotlight on you.
And therefore, I really believe that at the end of the day, no one is above the law and no one should be escaping accountability if indeed the facts and the evidence point to them having done something that anyone else in our country would be investigated for and maybe even charged.
The irony of the former First Lady, Senator Hillary Clinton, saying no one should be above the law, despite the fact that she had top-secret information on her private server, one of which would have seen someone like me with a clearance in prison if I had done that.
Strangely, she never served a day, let alone a year, in prison for those felonies.
Let's analyze the state of rule of law in America with the best person out there to
discuss it with.
He is the author of Get Trump and more recently we will be discussing later in the hour his
latest book War Against the Jews How to End Hamas Barbarism.
He is of course the number one New York Times best-selling author, professor emeritus of
law at Harvard, Professor Alan Dershowitz.
Professor Dershowitz, you eloquently described in the first segment how a tyranny in America
is impossible because of the checks and balances and because we were born in a response to
tyranny and therefore it's against the gene code of the republic.
However, would you help me with a taxonomy for what we have in America today?
Because if we look at the last three years, it may not be a tyranny or a dictatorship with gulags, but the raid on Mar-a-Lago against President Trump, Peter Navarro put in leg shackles at Reagan Airport for being in contempt of Congress, the teacher, the parents going to School board meetings who are concerned for the plight of their children being given their own terrorist threat tag by the FBI.
It may be not a full-blown tyranny, but where are we when it comes to rule of law?
How would you describe it in America?
Is there not a political perversion of the powers of the state?
There is, and I think the Get Trump movement, the attempt to try to get Trump without regard to the equal protection of the law, the law itself, is a stain on our system of justice.
But remember, most of these cases haven't yet gotten to the Supreme Court, and I do think the Supreme Court will strike an appropriate balance.
And tell prosecutors that they can't just willy-nilly hold people responsible against the Constitution.
My friend Hillary Clinton, who I've known for years and like, is wrong when she says that no one is above the law.
Senators are above the law.
Members of Congress are above the law.
They can't be prosecuted for things that ordinary Americans can be prosecuted for.
Until recently, senators and congressmen could trade on inside information.
Because they passed a statute saying that that was okay.
The same thing is true with presidents.
Sitting presidents cannot be indicted for acts that they took while serving as president.
So we understand that the law itself There are other categories of people that can't be held responsible.
For example, as a lawyer, I can't be asked questions about what my clients told me.
Anybody else can be asked questions about what anybody else told them.
But a minister, a rabbi or a priest can't be asked a question.
A doctor can't be asked a question.
So we don't have one law that fits all.
We have different kinds of rules that are part of our system of checks and balances.
And our system of checks and balances will, I hope, set right this Get Trump effort to try to undo The Constitution.
For example, the most recent effort to try to disqualify Trump from running because he fought in the Civil War.
He's an old man, but not old enough to have fought in the Civil War.
And that's what the 14th Amendment was about, disqualifying people who fought in the Civil War.
But now they're trying to use that to prevent you and me from casting votes either for him or against him.
That's very un-American.
But the courts have been striking that down, and I'm confident that the Supreme Court will strike it down as well.
All this week, my friend and former Secret Service agent Dan Bongino on his show has been saying there is no way in these multiple cases, these indictments from Georgia to D.C., there's no way President Trump will get justice because everything is skewed in his favor.
Do you agree with that assessment?
And if so, what are we living in?
If it's not a full-blown tyranny, what is the best description for how things have been perverted for political purposes?
Donald Trump will not get a fair trial in the District of Columbia.
The judge before whom he is going to be tried is completely one-sided.
He can't get a fair trial in New York, and he can't get a fair trial in Georgia.
Will the appellate courts reverse convictions, which are, I think, inevitable?
He certainly isn't getting a fair trial about his real estate ventures.
current testimony at the end of the trial suggested that Mar-a-Lago might be worth in
excess of a billion dollars and yet this judge who fancies himself a real estate expert set
it towards 17 million.
I was prepared to buy it, borrow money and sell it for 20 times the value.
He's not going to get fair trials, that's clear.
Will he get fair justice?
In the end, that remains to be seen.
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Say Donald Trump, if he is reelected, it will be the end of the republic.
What do you mean?
He's told us what he will do.
People who say, well, if he's elected, it's not that dangerous because we have all of
these checks and balances don't fully understand the extent to which the Republicans in Congress
today have been co-opted.
One of the things that we see happening today is sort of a sleepwalking into dictatorship in the United States.
Very strange to hear somebody who I last saw in the Oval Office when I was working for President Trump, that's Liz Cheney, a formerly Republican congresswoman, talk about the people of America choosing President Trump for a second administration, being us sleepwalking into a dictatorship.
She should re-register as a Democrat.
Somebody who has been a lifelong Democrat, I don't know if he is today, is our special guest here, one-on-one, Professor Alan Dershowitz.
May I ask you, I don't know if it's a personal question, it's a political question, what has happened?
...to the Democrat Party.
It seems to be incomparable to the JFK Democrats, the Scoop Jackson Democrats.
If there was some radical turn, when did it happen, Professor, and who's most culpable?
Well, I think it happened during the Obama administration, and President Obama's most culpable.
He allowed the Democratic Party to become captured, at least in part, by the extremists and the woke progressive left wing.
So far, the Democratic Party has remained, at the very top, centrist.
I think Biden is a centrist.
I think Blinken is a centrist.
I think Yellen is a centrist.
But the squad certainly is not.
And members of Congress, like Jamie Raskin, my former student, certainly are not centrists.
And they would like to move the political center of the Democratic Party very, very
much leftward.
And I think that's dangerous for democracy, and I think that's dangerous for the Democratic
Party.
I'm not a card-carrying member of any party.
I vote for whoever I think is the best candidate.
I tend to support the Democratic policies on abortion and gay rights and climate and
reasonable gun control, but not on foreign policy and not necessarily on the economy.
So I always vote for the best candidate.
Or the least worst candidate.
So, if we are to have two normal parties in America who don't accuse the other side of being dictators or just abnegate the right of the American people to choose their chief executive...
What is the scenario?
I'm just curious, Professor, how could the Democrat Party come back to some modicum of sanity?
What will it take?
Will it take an utter trouncing at the polls?
Because right now I don't see normal voices in leadership positions who are prepared to say to the Rashida Tlaibs, the Ilhan Omars, hang on, you're just not part of our political culture.
Well, I've been saying that, and I have offered to financially support as much as I can and campaign for anybody who runs against any member of the squad.
Corey Bush, who's the worst, Rashida Tlaib, who is next to the worst, and Ilhan Omar.
And AOC.
They are not my Democrats.
And I want to see them unseated.
I want to see them primary.
And if they can't be defeated in the primaries, I want to see them defeated by Republicans.
I will support any Republican who runs against any members of the squad or any of the other members of the Democratic Party who want to move the party to the extreme woke left.
The best way to make me a Republican Well, I haven't heard that before.
I don't know if he's breaking news here.
He said he's said it before, but I like that offer.
vote for people who represent kind of that socialist view of the American future, which
is a proven failure.
Well I haven't heard that before.
I don't know if he's breaking news here.
He said he's said it before.
But I like that offer.
He is literally putting his money where his mouth is saying he will support anybody who
will run against these disgusting members of the squad.
One condition for anything that could happen, and the good things that could happen once this war is over.
Dersh, D-E-R-S-H, dersh.substack.com and also get his podcast, The Dersh Show,
subscribed today. I'm Sebastian Gorka, this is America First, one-on-one, coming
to you from the Reliefactor.com studios. First, there's one condition, one
condition for anything that could happen and the good things that could happen
once this war is over, and that condition is that Hamas must be destroyed.
Hamas must be destroyed, Cartago de Lenda Est.
Will it be one man who has been burning the midnight oil with his latest book since written since the October 7th attacks is War Against the Jews, How to End Hamas Barbarism.
Professor Dershowitz, will you give us your take in the last six weeks, how things have
been progressing?
I'm sure you're horrified with what we've seen on campuses here in the United States,
including at Harvard, posters being ripped down on the streets of those who have been
kidnapped.
But when you look at Israel's response in the international community, how should we
rate the last six weeks?
Well, Israel's response has been better than any other country faced with comparable threats.
No other country faced with terrorism right on its border has ever killed fewer civilians.
According to a report in a Paris newspaper, the ratio is two to one.
That is, for every terrorist killed, there are two civilians killed.
That's better than any ratio in any comparable situation.
And remember that Israel is right on the border.
So Israel's response has been a model of compliance with the rule of law.
You wouldn't believe that if you saw these demonstrations by Hitler Youth.
That's what I call them, because that's what they are.
People forget that Hitler came to power as a result of students at the University of Munich in Berlin, Heidelberg.
That the Ayatollahs came to power as the result of students taking over the American embassy.
Stalin as well.
These students are Hitler youth.
And they have to be responded to in the way that Hitler Youth would be responded to.
Give them their right of free speech, but answer them.
And don't say just because they're students, well, they're young, and maybe they're mistaken.
No, they have to be held responsible.
And that's why I'm in favor of doxing them.
I'm in favor of having their names published.
Not their home numbers, not their sexual orientation.
But their names.
I want everybody who supports Hamas, everybody who believes that raping and beheading and burning children is okay, I want their names to be known.
And if Hamas is not defeated in the Middle East, it's coming to a theater near you.
And you have to be very concerned that your friends' children, your grandchildren, We'll be wearing those green headbands and we'll be engaged in the kind of terrorism we saw in the 1970s from the Weathermen.
So this is a problem not only for Israel, it's a great problem for America as well.
That's why I wrote my book War Against the Jews.
I put everything aside starting on October 7th, and I wrote the book in 32 days.
Maybe it'll get into the book of records for the fastest book published, but it came from inside.
I really had to get it out, and the book is now available at Amazon.
Yes, the book is War Against the Jews.
Would you concur, Professor, that The international community, the grandees, the quote-unquote elite, have collectively demonstrated themselves to be utterly morally bankrupt.
The fact that it takes the UN over a month to say anything about the rape of women, we have Hollywood luminaries we have, the likes of Pramila Jayapal refusing to excoriate what Hamas did.
Do we just have to ignore these people and just support Israel?
Is Israel alone now, Professor?
It is alone, except most Americans support Israel.
And we not only must ignore, we must deplore the people who have remained silent.
Feminists who don't say a word about the rapes and the mutilations of women.
Gays for Gaza.
My son had a great idea.
Start a birthright for Gaza.
Send all these people to Gaza to defend Hamas in Gaza.
And you can only have to spend it one way, because they won't need a return ticket.
They'll all be murdered.
The appalling silence.
Organizations like Doctors Without Borders, which has become a spokesperson for Hamas.
UNICEF.
Don't ever give a nickel to UNICEF.
Or the International Red Cross.
or Doctors Without Borders, or Unraha.
All of these have become megaphones for anti-American, anti-Israel, and anti-Semitic rhetoric, and
they have to be condemned in the marketplace of ideas.
Do you have any theory, as somebody who's followed these issues for so long and who's
probably written the first book on the October 7th massacre since it occurred, do you have
any theory as to what it was about, whether it's the Palestinian Authority, whether it's
Hamas, whether it's the Gazan authorities, how they were able to pull the wool over the
eyes over everybody?
How millions of people, to use a Cold War phrase, became useful idiots for genocidal murderers?
It's remarkable.
I think that Israel took seriously the fact that Hamas had a ceasefire and agreed not to attack Israel.
And foolishly, the Israelis believe Hamas.
You can never believe anything Hamas says.
And they were tricked the way we were tricked on 9-11, the way we were fooled for Pearl
Harbor, and the way other democracies have been fooled over the years.
You know, in democracies, there are limits to what you can do and what you can find out,
but it will never happen again.
This was the worst intelligence failure in modern history, and Israel has to make up
for it by destroying Hamas, getting the hostages back, and making sure that never again are
their civilians and citizens exposed to this kind of brutality and barbarity.
If this ever, God forbid, happened to the United States, you can just imagine the devastation
that we would have imposed on those who were responsible.
Israel has the right to prevent this from occurring again, and that's again why I wrote my book, War Against the Jews, to give a platform.
four criteria for how this war has to end.
The destruction of Hamas, the end of the hostages, recognition by the Saudis of Israel and having
that peace deal go again, and a renewal of American support for Israel.
Those things have to be accomplished.
And if they're not, then Hamas will win.
If Hamas wins in Israel, it will be exporting their terrorism to the United States and other
countries around the world.
And what about the colleges like Harvard, like Berkeley?
Can we excise the pro-anti-Semitic forces there, or do we just have to write them off?
No, I think we can excise them.
The first thing we have to do is get rid of the diversity, equity, inclusion bureaucracy.
Billions of dollars have been spent on creating these anti-Semitic, anti-American centers.
And we also have to abolish these programs I don't believe in women's studies, black studies, gay studies, Asian studies, or Jewish studies.
I think you study, you expose every group to the same kind of criticism, but these tend to be rooting sections and zero-sum games, and the combination of the diversity And these departments have been the incubator for anti-Semitism on most of the college campuses, and my goal is to rid the colleges of those very special identity programs and start teaching students basics.
Basics about American government, basics about STEM, science, technology, engineering, and math, and stop making the universities the centerpiece of woke, progressive, anti-American attitudes.
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One last question for you concerning your previous work, Get Trump.
Perhaps the thorniest of issues, Professor.
What do we do about the judicial bench?
We look at Judge Engeron in New York, we look at Chudgun, the federal judge here in DC, and it seems like we have individuals who think they can behave in contravention of the Constitution, the law means nothing.
Engeron basically said that in a lecture.
Can that be fixed in any way?
What is the solution, or do we just have to wait for these people to die out?
No, we have to wait for them to be reversed on appeal.
We have a system of checks and balances even within the judiciary.
District courts today tend to often be very anti-Trump and anti-Republican and anti-Conservative, and the Supreme Court is more sympathetic to the Conservatives.
So I think we're seeing a work in progress, but you're absolutely right.
Some of these judges are so result-oriented As one of the judges said, you know, Trump is a terrible person, therefore we have to get him.
That's not what judges should be saying or doing.
They should be applying the law fairly and equally without regard to name.
You know, the Bible instructs judges, do not recognize faces.
Do not do justice based on who a person is.
We're not seeing that in many parts of the United States today.
But you have faith that on appeal, or in the Supreme Court, these unfair, unconstitutional behaviors and decisions could be reversed?
I do.
I don't have complete faith, but I have substantial faith.
That's the way it's happened over the years.
And the pendulum swings.
Sometimes it favors one ideology, sometimes another.
But over the last 200-plus years, it's all worked.
And I am very confident that the American system of justice and the rule of law will survive everything that's going on now.
It won't be easy, but it will happen.
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