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But first, let's start with a very special guest, somebody who hasn't been on the show before.
But first, let's remind you of, um, it's easy with the geopolitical events of the last few days and the last two and a half years to forget a little fascist called Fauci, a man who, well, probably the most mendacious individual in federal government.
Here's a reminder.
Senator we also know from other studies that the optimal degree of protection when you get infection is to get vaccinated after infection and in fact showing reinfection in the era of Omicron and the sub lineages But you can't answer the question I ask.
The question I ask is how many kids are dying and how many kids are going to the hospital who've already had COVID?
The answer may be zero, but you're not even giving us the data because you have so much wanted to protect everybody from all the data because we're not smart enough to look at the data.
When you released data earlier, when the CDC released the data, they left out the category of 18 to 49 on whether or not there was a health benefit for adults 18 to 49.
Why was it left out?
When critics finally complained it was finally included because there was no health benefit from taking a booster between the 18 to 49 in the CDC study.
No health benefit.
A man who was relentless in uncovering the lies of Fauci and his accomplices.
We're delighted to have him here on America First.
Senator Rand Paul, welcome to the Salem Radio Network.
Thanks for having me, Sebastian.
Glad to be with you.
So you have a brand new book out, less than 24 hours ago.
It's called Deception, the Great COVID Cover-Up, with of course Fauci on the cover wearing
one of his pointless, useless masks.
Let me ask, you're a medical professional.
Let me ask you the obvious, naive question.
How did somebody who so got it wrong for decades, got it wrong about AIDS, that AIDS could be
transmitted on, you know, subway railings?
How somebody who could get it so wrong for 45 stinking years ends up as the highest paid bureaucrat in America and seemingly gets away with it.
Help us and our three and a half million listeners understand.
You know what they say about government work?
People fail upwards.
So the more you fail, the higher you rise, the longer you last.
You know, he lasted for four decades.
A lot of it came out of, and there's a long history of this, it came out after 9-11.
Our government became more aware and alarmed about biowarfare, maybe coming from others, but also in preparing that, they began stockpiling and creating viruses.
But this money all gravitated to one part of the NIH that Fauci was a part of.
Fauci used to be in charge of a segment of the NIH that was about one-twenty-seventh of all the money.
But over time, he became part of the NAID, and that was such a preeminent part that all the money gravitated there.
He became more and more powerful, but he became more and more obsessed with himself.
He got to the point where if you criticize Anthony Fauci today, he will say you're criticizing science.
He will say that he is science.
I've never met a man with such arrogance that he believes, he fully believes that a criticism of anything he does or says is somehow a criticism of science.
And so this is a man with unlimited arrogance, but he got there through longevity.
And so one of the fixes, one of the fixes I propose in this book is we should divide his position in three and we should make it confirmable by the Senate.
So the Senate would have to vote to confirm these people.
And then we should have term limits on it because he was just up here too long and became too powerful over time.
But, so let's go back to that.
You skate over something quite shocking.
In international law and domestic law, we're not supposed to develop chemical weapons or biological weapons.
However, the treaty from 1972 permits us to do research to defend ourselves against those who are using those weapons in a military context.
So, why were we sending taxpayer money To the biggest communist dictatorship in the world to do research that was illegal in America.
Because that's what you're arguing, isn't it?
That's the million-dollar question.
You've hit the nail on the head.
And the thing is, is some people make the explanation that we were outsourcing research that really was no longer legal in our country.
So, the beginning of the story really is back in 2010, when scientists in the Netherlands take the avian flu This is an influenza flu that chickens catch but doesn't affect humans very well.
When it does infect a human, it has about 50% mortality.
Well, some genius scientist in the Netherlands says, why don't I see if I can make it more transmissible through the air to humans?
And that would sound like a crazy notion, but It was funded, Anthony Fauci sided with his scientists, and there was a big debate.
Could this be a recipe for terrorism if this is published?
So there's a huge debate over whether to publish it or not.
And Anthony Fauci finally concluded in 2012 said this, even if a pandemic were to occur, the
knowledge would be worth the risk.
It turns out that a lot of people who died from COVID would probably, you know, have an argument
about the, whether or not the risk was worth the benefit of this.
But in the end, there was a pause, and the government didn't fund gain-of-function research, or wasn't supposed to, from 2014 to 2016.
The only problem with the pause is there was exemptions that were allowed and granted by, you got it, Anthony Fauci.
Right.
Come 2017, they opened the spigots again and they said we're going to do this, but they said there's going to be a committee and this committee has to review dangerous research.
It was called the Pandemic or the P3CO Committee to Review.
But you know what ended up happening?
The research money that was being sent to Wuhan never went before the committee.
It was exempted.
And this is one of the things that got my interest peaked on this, because the emails that began exchanging at the very beginning of the pandemic, January 31st of 2020, there's one that happens at 3 in the morning.
And it was going to a gentleman by the name of Bob Cadillac.
And I was like, who's Bob Cadillac?
I didn't know who that was.
Until I finally discovered that he was in charge of the safety committee.
But in the email, Anthony Fauci, who's frantically emailing everybody throughout government and it looks like he's worried that something's going to attach to him, he's telling Bob Cadillac, this came from animals, nothing to see here.
The implication is, we didn't do anything wrong by not sending it to your committee.
And then I finally meet Bob Cadillac and he says he has no ability to research or to oversee this because he had no ability to go after any grant Unless they sent the grant to him.
So it was a meaningless structure, but ultimately it wasn't just Fauci's decision to outsource this to China, it was then Fauci's decision to actually cover up the fact that they had been doing it for a decade.
Yeah, we'll talk about what they did to cover it up, but in the last minute we have in this segment, we'll keep you over, Senator, for the next segment.
It seems to me, from what you can read in the unclassified open domain, that this was an engineered virus that Probably had an accidental leak from workers who worked at Wuhan, but then the Chinese government allowed it to be seeded across the globe by allowing Chinese to travel as they locked down their citizens domestically.
Is that what you have seen?
I think that's accurate.
In the book we detail how the first SARS virus from 2003-2004 was quickly found in an animal reservoir, civet cats, that were eaten and prepared in China.
But they found the virus in the cats and they said this is where it came from.
They also found that the people, the animal handlers, had increased antibody levels, showing they had been infected by that virus.
Well, when this virus turned up, they wanted to find the same thing, so they tested 80,000 animals in China, but none of them had the virus.
They couldn't find an animal reservoir.
But then they looked carefully at the sequence, the genetic sequence of the virus, and they discovered, lo and behold, it had a very unusual characteristic.
It had a cleavage site.
A cleavage site is a site that manufactures a protein that helps the virus
to invade the cell, to cleave and make an opening in the cell.
But it turns out this doesn't exist in nature, but it's very commonly inserted by lab technicians in gain-of-function
research.
There we go.
We also do.
There we go.
Let's Let's hold it there.
We'll continue in a second.
The book is out right now by Kentucky Senator Rand Paul, Deception, the great COVID cover-up.
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you Yeah, they don't see it in this particular group of coronaviruses.
It's never existed.
One doctor, Dr. Stephen Quay, says that it hasn't existed in a thousand years, that this group of viruses have been stable for a thousand years without this special site.
The cleavage site is introduced by scientists often in gain-of-function research to try to make it more infectious.
Which sounds crazy, but this is what they do in the lab, is try to make viruses that don't infect humans, make them able to penetrate the human cell with a cleavage site.
So they discover this cleavage site on there and they say, my goodness, it looks like it's been manipulated.
But who's saying this?
Is it a bunch of right-wing people?
No, it's Anthony Fauci saying this and five world-renowned virologists meeting in private on February 1st, 2020.
In their private emails, they say the virus looks suspicious, it looks manipulated, and we're also very concerned because we know they do gain-of-function research in Wuhan.
Well, this becomes very important because a year later I have Fauci in committee and I ask him, did you fund gain-of-function research in Wuhan?
He said no.
And I said, well, we have evidence.
We have these papers.
We have this documentation.
And is he just saying that because he's just funneling it through EcoHealth?
No, I think that was initially one of his plans was to say it was indirect, that they didn't directly do it.
But ultimately his argument was that it wasn't gain-of-function research at all.
And he made the argument that, oh, if it's an animal virus, it can't be.
If we do anything to an animal virus that we don't know is already a human pathogen, then it's not gain-of-function research.
It basically became an argument of semantics.
And then during one of our exchanges, They actually changed on the NIH website the definition of gain-of-function the day we had an exchange.
They changed the definition.
I'm on a political science PhD, but I went through all of the journal articles regarding the use of the word case in medicine.
And prior to COVID, a case that was numerically significant was somebody who required serious treatment for the ailment or was sent to hospital.
Suddenly, it becomes anybody who tests positive on a home COVID test.
I mean, they literally redefined words during the outbreak.
And this became a problem in trying to determine, you know, who are the people at risk for this disease?
What should the treatment be?
So, for example, with children, I would say repeatedly and said over and over from the very beginning, children are at risk for this.
And they would say, oh, no, you know, we have over 100 children who have died in our country.
And I said, well, how many of those children were already terminally ill?
Let's talk about that.
Let's talk about the children, because that's one of the most offensive aspects of it all.
Alright, Eric, come in with the Fauci cut, and then I'll do the merch, and then we'll go to the Senator.
Merch cut, merch, Senator.
Yes.
Got it.
I'm going to go to the bathroom.
Okay.
.
But if they get up and really aim their bullets at Tony Fauci, well, people could recognize there's a person there, so it's easy to criticize.
But they're really criticizing science.
Because I represent science.
That's dangerous.
You know what's dangerous?
Any man who thinks he is science.
And we're talking to an individual who's actually had bullets fired at him on a baseball field not far from where we are sitting.
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Senator Paul, your brand new book is Deception, the great COVID cover-up.
In the break, in front of our Rumble viewers, we were talking about the thing that Yes, people died.
Yes, we don't know what the myocarditis side effects of the vaccines and the boosters are.
But for me, as a parent, perhaps the most outrageous aspect of all is what was done to our children in the name of science and public health.
I still see some parents at the playground where I walk my dogs With their children with masks on, can you speak to what the long-term damage could be to those children by what we did to them by masking them for months and months and months?
Well, there's two things.
There's no evidence that the masks work in the general public for this disease.
The size of the virus is too small, passes through most masks.
Cochrane Analysis looked at 78 randomized controlled studies and found no benefit to the public.
No reduction in transmission, no reduction in incidence of illness, no reduction in death, no evidence that the mask worked at all.
But the second reason why it's a crazy notion to put your children in masks is children don't die from this.
In Germany, they've released the data.
In Germany, between the ages of 5 and 17, zero people died.
Zero children died.
Now, they excluded people that were terminally ill and very sick.
But if your child was healthy, which is what most parents are asking, if my child is healthy, can they die from COVID?
It's zero.
So the mask is of no value.
And in the end, the disease spread like wildfire.
And as the children became infected, they actually became a big part of the community developing immunity.
But the masks don't work in the public.
And actually saying that cloth masks work actually risks people's lives.
So when Anthony Fauci parades around with three masks on, Washington Nationals mask and all this craziness, He's actually giving bad advice.
And then they say to me, well, when I was in the hospital and working with COVID patients, which I volunteered after I was sick in my hospital, did you wear an N95 mask?
And I did.
But the thing is, is the way you wear them in the hospital is what you would recommend at home.
If your loved one is sick, if you're 75 years old and your loved one is 75 years old and
you're taking care of them but you're trying not to get COVID, wearing an N95 mask, gloves,
washing your hands, but then throwing away all of that when you leave the room again
and washing your hands again, there is some chance that you can reduce your possibility
of being infected by your loved one.
But in the public, they just don't work because people can't wear them properly.
They touch their face too much with them.
And frankly, the N95 mask, after about four hours, the moisture of your exhaled air gets
rid of the electrostatic charge and they don't filter out the virus the way they did in the
very beginning.
But the bottom line is kids just don't get sick.
And this is why I confronted Fauci on this.
I said, you know, why do you want to give them a booster?
Does it reduce transmission?
No.
Does it reduce hospitalization or death?
He says, oh, we don't have the data.
And I said, because the answer is zero.
In fact, when the FDA Vaccine Committee voted on this, they voted not to give kids the booster.
They voted only 65 and older to get the booster.
Went to the CDC vaccine committee, they voted the same way.
But then they were overruled by Rochelle Walensky, a Biden political appointee, overruled the scientists.
So when these idiots try to tell us we're not following the science, no, they're not following the science.
We do it down to six months in our country, and you're right.
For adolescent males particularly, but even for adolescent girls, there's a risk of a heart inflammation from the vaccine.
If you're 75 years old, the disease has always been more dangerous than the vaccine.
If you're 15 years old, the vaccine's more dangerous than the disease.
And that's just the honest truth.
And we should tell people that.
That's the clarity we need.
The book is Deception, the great COVID cover-up.
We're talking to Kentucky Senator Rand Paul.
Senator Paul, let's switch topics for the last few minutes of this interview.
You've always been a champion for fiscal responsibility to get America back to some kind of sanity, but there seems to be a bigger threat on the horizon than just, you know, drunken sailors on Capitol Hill spending other people's money.
And that is, whatever you want to call it, the deep state, the permanent bureaucracy, The politicized judiciary.
Can you talk to us about how serious that threat is?
Not just for President Trump and the 730 years in prison he's facing, but pro-life preachers in Philly, or parents who don't want their children to wear masks in school.
How serious is this threat of a politicized police force in DOJ?
And can we fix it as a nation, Senator Paul?
It's probably the number one concern that people come up to me as I travel around the country.
They come to me and they say they're worried that they'll be treated differently by the court.
There'll be differences in the prosecution rate.
There'll be differences in the government targeting them based on their political or their religious beliefs.
And without question, it's true and it's happening.
And it is very, very alarming.
And it's something, you know, look, we fought for years and years and we got to a better place in our country about equal protection under the law, no matter what color your skin was.
That also applies to your ideology.
I say, you know, we've gotten rid of the problems with the shade of the color of your skin.
We got to get rid of the problems with the shade of your ideology.
You know, if you homeschool or you're pro-life or you are a Donald Trump supporter, you should not be treated differently under the law.
But in this case, when Anthony Fauci lied, which is a felony, lied to Congress, It's five years in prison for a felony, but nobody's doing anything.
But several people from the Trump administration were accused of the same thing and immediately prosecuted.
Look at how they threw the book at Manafort, and then look at the similarities between that and Hunter Biden, and nothing was happening to Hunter Biden.
He almost skated, but for one judge actually doing that.
And then you look at the ridiculous nature of them prosecuting Donald Trump by having to pass a law to change the statute of limitations. First of all, the
woman that claimed all this stuff happened in New York years ago can't remember even what
year it happened, much less when it happened, and the statute of limitations had run. That's the law. The
legislature went, changed the law just so this woman could sue again. Now they're valuing his
properties.
All of it is politically targeted.
I think ultimately we'll go to the Supreme Court.
It's going to take years.
I mean, the presidential election will probably have come and gone by the time it gets to the Supreme Court, but I think they will rule these as politically motivated, but we can't let people just use the government.
Look, I don't care if you dislike Donald Trump.
I'm a friend of his, but I don't care if you dislike him.
I would never ever do this to Joe Biden.
I'm not a fan of Joe Biden, so I think he's a terrible president.
But I would never use the apparatus of the government to go after Joe Biden, just to make up cases to go after him.
It's politicizing the police and it is un-American.
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Do you still believe the NRA is a terror group?
I support the Second Amendment like I do all the amendments to the Constitution.
I didn't ask you if you support the Second Amendment.
You called in 2018, you said, Parkland students are right, the NRA is a terror group.
Do you believe that?
I don't consider the NRA a terror group.
Do you regret tweeting that in 2018?
Well, I don't recall tweeting it in 2018, but if I did, as I said, Sean, I don't consider them a terror group, and I support the Second Amendment.
I just sent you something, Eric.
Tell me when it's ready, because I just found it, and I want to shock Jeff with it.
When it's ready, just wave at the camera so I know, because I don't think he's going to believe that tweet.
That was RFK.
Jeff, when was that?
Was that last night on Hannity?
Yeah, it was.
He didn't sound very comfortable there.
That was like a quasi-ambush.
What was that?
Yeah, I know.
Not at all.
But he supports the Second Amendment, though.
You can be confident in that.
But the NRA are terrorists.
Yeah, it's just a little different.
What do the left call these?
Nuance, right?
Nuance.
Exactly.
He evolved on the issue.
He evolved.
But he doesn't remember tweeting it, right?
He doesn't recall.
He's not in a deposition.
Oh.
See, if I ever called anybody a terrorist, I'd never forget calling them a terrorist.
Would you?
Oh, and if I ever say I don't recall, that means I'm lying.
Because I don't want to say I don't.
Bingo.
Bingo.
Eric, how we doing?
Not yet?
Okay.
Got it.
So, what's the name of that, um... What's the name of that local radio host?
The guy in Iowa?
What's his name?
Peace?
Steve Deese.
Steve Deese.
Okay.
Who is he supporting, like, on his knees?
Like, you know, fellating?
Who is he supporting for president?
That's not true, is it?
I'm looking at it right now.
I can see the preview.
Put it up!
Put it up on the screen!
I just found this on Twitter.
That local radio host is now endorsing RFK.
He's posted a photograph of himself with the phrase, Mr. President question mark.
I guess this means he's finally accepted that DeSantis is done and he's got no chance.
But hang on!
Hang on Jeff!
We were told that if you're not a good Christian, if you're a good Christian, if you're an American, if you're a patriot, the only person you can support is Ron DeSantis.
And we talked about principles and all that stuff and being a true conservative.
And the rest of us are just fakes and whores.
Yeah, I still don't believe he did that.
I cannot believe he did that.
That's almost as good as when he was in the mask inside of his house.
Oh yes!
At the ball game.
Yeah, for the football game, yeah.
Can you believe?
Does this mean, if Steve Deese, if Mr. I-love-Ron-so-much-I-wanna-kiss-his-backside-every-day, if he's now promoting RFK, what does this mean for Ron's campaign?
Um, I think Ron Cain's campaign is over.
We see some other of the big names are starting to leave the Super PACs.
Oh, hang on!
Our buddy, Steve Cortez!
Yes.
He left!
But he's still supporting Ron.
He is?
That's what he said.
He said he'll still continue to support him.
Alright, I'm gonna text him in the break.
I just had to shock you with that.
He didn't believe it was real.
It's real!
It's on Twitter!
That local radio host who loved DeSantis and said you're not a concern if you don't support him.
He's now...
He's bootlicking, he's brown-nosing RFK.
Oh, that was too funny.
Let's take a call at 833-333-GORKA, 833-333-46752.
Let's go to Phil in Philly!
Hey, Dr. G, I'll tell you, RFK sounds like he has one foot in the grave and another one on a banana peel.
That guy does not sound good at all.
No, but it's because... I don't think he was expecting that question from Hannity.
Like, uh, you called the NRA terrorists?
I don't recall.
Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.
Yeah, sure, sure, sure.
But Dr. G, what I was talking about was we have a form of government that gave our last president all the power in the world to give us peace, prosperity, and safety.
We gave that same power to a communist collaborator that's going to destroy this country in one fell swoop.
These states have to declare their sovereignty separate from the federal government.
And to track down those immigrants that were placed in those cities and towns and start hunting down these terrorists, because I guarantee they're in every major city and town and we're going to have a Hamas-style assault on our country.
Yeah, it's somebody, I read that, Phil, somebody over the weekend, there was an article about one state, I don't know if it was Texas, but one state that's initiating its capacity as a state to deport illegals.
And the question is, Phil...
Right, under the Fourth Amendment, the Fed is supposed to protect them, but if they fail
to do that, they can declare their own sovereignty.
So why aren't they all doing it, Phil?
Because we are following the rules.
Yes.
And we've got to break from the rules because Biden's not, he's not following the rules.
None at all.
Yeah.
We love being silly, Dr. Come on guys, step up to the plate.
Protect your states.
We are a republic of states.
Get serious about the safety of your citizens.
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Isn't that amazing?
That is unbelievable.
I can't wait to listen to this.
The tale of two Steves, between he and Cortez, that's a sign that you know it's so over.
Do they really think?
They must really be banking on some shenanigans at the convention.
That's the only thing they have left in their sleeve, I think, if anything.
That is so much fun.
Dees, of all people, you know what that really is?
He's just so desperate to get anybody on his show.
Like, he will have anybody on his show who's somewhat high profile.
So it's kind of like what Rogan occasionally does.
Like, every time Rogan has a candidate for president on his show,
he kisses up to them like, yo, oh I love you Bernie, oh I love you Bernie.
Oh, no, I love you, Tulsi.
Oh, no, I love you, Andrew Yang.
Like, he's kind of the same way.
So I think that's what Dease was doing there.
He was just happy to get someone... What to say?
Future president question mark?
Like I said, he's gonna kiss up to them.
He was apparently in studio there.
He was in his studio, which is, yeah, so... Alright, um, what have we got here?
I'm gonna do... do do do do do do...
It's D, you want...
I don't have the script.
Uh, Alex?
The questions.
Wait, for... No, Geoff.
Oh, Key City?
Is that this?
Yeah.
Oh, um... He says that's the second hour.
Oh, okay.
That's what I thought for a moment.
Alright, good.
Okay.
Alright, I want to do some of the longer cuts here.
I was going to say Horowitz or maybe...
The woman, you would translate?
Come in with seven.
Seven.
And then... I'm gonna tee up twelve.
Twelve, alright.
Griffin.
And you said you would pot it down at some point because it's a little too long?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, yep.
One minute.
Any embeds here?
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Thank you for watching.
We have a fifth column in this column.
It's called the Democrat Party.
When is the Democrat Party going to put down the Hamas-Nazi wing of the party?
When will the media stop promoting AOC and her sympathies with the Hamas-Nazi party, the Democratic Socialists?
Look at the people in this country protesting.
What the evisceration of the Jews and so forth.
Let me tell you a secret.
Those aren't Democrats.
Those aren't Republicans.
Such an important point.
Not one conservative, not one Republican is backing Hamas.
Yeah, there are isolationists, but nobody except the left and the Democrats are on the side of the baby killers because, well, the Democrats are baby killers, right?
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One woman who's on the side of the left, who hates America, who pretends to be a conservative
journalist is Jennifer Griffin.
And she might as well just get a paycheck from the Biden administration and the DNC.
The Fox Pentagon correspondent said, oh, Iran?
No!
All presidents have been supporting Iran.
Yeah, left and right.
No biggie.
It's not Biden.
It's not Obama.
It's every president.
This, this is the true face of Fox.
Listen to Jennifer Griffin, Fox News' Pentagon correspondent on, yeah, everybody funds the Muslim killers.
Everyone does.
Cut 12.
And that Iran has played a role here and maybe some of this money was playing a role here.
What are you hearing?
Well, I think, first of all, Neil, I think you have to push back on some of the statements in that statement from former President Trump.
It is an exaggeration to suggest that there is any evidence that any of the money that
was released as part of that hostage deal—a lot of that money was tied up in goods.
What I would say is that Iran has been funding Hamas across four presidents.
And so it goes back through the entire, when I was based there again back in from 1999 to 2007, Iran was funding Hamas.
Eric, she sounds like she's working for Admiral Kirby.
That really was.
Absolutely disgraceful display of just hem-hawing and equivocating, which, again, as a journalist, as a reporter, is she not supposed to be more objective than that?
Right.
And what, she's trying to blame every president?
I guarantee you one president didn't support Iran, and actually, on my advice, and Steve Bannon's advice, killed Obama's Iran deal, and that's President Trump.
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Hey.
Thanks for taking my call.
Sure.
I wanted to just say that the barbarian behavior of Hamas should be sending warning signs and
sirens going off.
for us here in America who have the same type of barbarians at the gate in the cartels.
I remember seeing and hearing stories about their beheading people and hanging the bodies over overpasses a year or so ago.
They machine-gunned a group of Mormon women and children Who allegedly had gotten into the wrong place.
Correct.
They are raping women and children as they escort them up here from who knows where into the United States.
So we've got barbarians at the gate also.
Yeah, but the problem is they're not at the gate, they're inside the compound.
8 million illegals that we know of, Rick, that we know of.
What about maybe the other 8 million that we don't know of?
150 on the terror watch list in just the last three months.
That's almost 10 times the number of Al Qaeda terrorists.
that executed 9-11, so you're absolutely right.
If you think you can just ignore this and leave it somewhere in the Middle East, you have no understanding that these groups want to kill us as much as they want to kill the Jews.
It's not called the Judeo-Christian civilization for nothing, and on Friday in the mosque when they're chanting in Tehran, death to the great Satan, That's not Israel.
The great Satan is us!
Wake up, America!
Thank you, Rick.
More of your calls in a moment.
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Jennifer.
7.
Paul of course.
I'm gonna do Nancy Mace with Jen.
Play card 2 again for me. 2.
We're gonna have to talk to the Qataris.
These are the countries that, in the past, have been able to go to the leadership of Hamas, to other people inside Gaza, to try to get deals done, to try to negotiate ceasefires, to try to negotiate cross-shipments of humanitarian aid.
I think there's really no other option.
I don't see U.S.
Special Operations Forces staging a daring rescue inside Gaza.
Wait, why is one of them holding a dog?
Is he rescuing it, or like...?
Yeah.
Okay.
Aw, that's so wholesome.
Um... Uh... Well, it's the E segment, so probably not a long cut, but... No, the, uh, come in with cut three.
Come in with three.
Oh, Netnyahu again.
Yep.
Can you read me the two calls?
Sound what?
Sound getting what?
Two.
What does that say?
Squads getting away with supporting Hamas then Riley gains real women's day. She thinks there should be a real man's
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Thank you.
We were struck Saturday by an attack whose savagery I can say we have not seen since the Holocaust.
I mean, we had hundreds massacred, families wiped out in their beds and their homes, women brutally raped and murdered, over a hundred kidnapped, including children.
They're even worse than ISIS!
They're even worse than ISIS.
Yeah, ISIS decapitated their hostages, but 40 babies at one time.
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Yeah, Sebastian, I wanted to commend you Uh, and the utmost respect for you and for Mark Levin.
You just brought up Mark Levin just a minute ago, uh, and you made a point about the left, AOC, uh, they should all be, the squad should be, uh, off the Senate.
Out of the- Congress.
It's Congress, not the Senate.
Yeah.
Thank you, Bill.
They are reprehensible.
We'll play you a shocking cut with Rashida Tlaib next at the top of the hour.
You want to hear that, Bill, so stay with us.
Sid, Los Angeles.
Is it Los Angeles or Louisiana?
Los Angeles.
Okay.
You got a minute and a half, my friend.
Okay, I'll be quick.
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I think they have to be recognized, personally.
They're being discredited all the time for toxicity, male toxicity, all this sort of nonsense out there.
I think we need some recognition that there are real men in this world.
Thank you, Sid.
I know somebody who'll agree with that.
Eric, what do you think?
We need a Real Men's Day?
Absolutely.
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I mean, we already do here on this show with the Manhood Hour.
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you like you know st. Louis abyssal
Yeah, he bloody went away for four days.
It's like, he's never allowing him to leave again.
And the world falls apart while I'm gone.
That's right.
I leave and the Middle East is on fire.
What happened?
That's what happens.
Do you know who Steve Deese is?
Yes.
Show her what he just posted on Twitter.
The man who likes to fellate Ron DeSantis just posted this.
Oh, for you-know-what's sake.
The guy who said you're not a Christian if you support Donald Trump has just posted that.
What a cornball.
He's a nut.
That shirt.
I don't know about that shirt, man.
I don't know about what's in the shirt.
It doesn't compliment his figure at all.
That is what we call a camouflager.
That's like the Old Navy $13 flannel shirt special.
You know, I have a favorite shirt from Old Navy.
It's like just a white shirt that's long enough to wear untucked.
It's my favorite shirt.
Cost me $7.
Isn't that this, this white part, this white is, it was like $3.99.
And I wear these all the time.
I love them.
I love them.
So yeah, I'm not a hater.
You want to use cut 10 here, Seb?
Yes.
Yeah, definitely.
All good for Friday?
Yes.
All right.
I don't know where we'll be guys, but we'll be together.
Come in with cut one.
Come in with one.
KJP.
Yeah.
Well, there have been some members of Congress who have called for a ceasefire and they have
not gone as far as backing the administration's call for support for Israel.
So look, I've seen some of those statements this weekend, and we're going to continue to be very clear.
We believe they're wrong.
We believe they're repugnant, and we believe they're disgraceful.
Our condemnation belongs squarely with terrorists who have brutally murdered, raped, kidnapped hundreds, hundreds of Israelis.
There can be no equivocation about that.
There are not two sides here.
There are not two sides.
Wow!
Was that the White House press secretary saying that the squad statements, the likes of Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, AOC are repugnant and disgraceful?
Am I in a dream?
What's going on?
I need a sanity check!
Let's check out the West Coast Warrior Princess.
Maybe she can say, wake up, Sebastian, wake up!
AM 590, AM 870.
The answer, Jennifer Horne.
Am I dreaming?
I am fever-dreaming with you, if you are, because it seems like—you know what they always say?
A broken clock is right twice a day, right?
And so I'm glad to hear them say that, and the White House response so far, once we got it, after they sent all the barbecue partiers home over the weekend— You mean four days late?
Four days late.
I mean, they have been very strong and supportive of Israel, which is the only position that I think any of us should have any tolerance for.
That being said, they have been eerily quiet on Iran and Iran's role in funding Hamas, which, of course, they were the ones who launched the attack over the weekend.
So I give them 50 percent credit.
I'm going to say they're getting some of this right, but I really would like to see a little stronger talk on Iran.
The fact that John Kirby, who I think is probably their best spokesperson, I say that lightly yesterday, said there's no plan to put sanctions back on Iran after all of this.
It's worse than that.
Today we have a White House statement that they have not decided.
I hate saying this out loud because, you know, our enemies are listening.
The White House actually says we have not decided to initiate hostage rescue operations.
So what?
Sickening.
Like, I guess those hostages don't matter.
Good luck, I guess is what they're saying.
You know, it doesn't breed a whole lot of confidence when you have Antony Blinken flying over to try to lead the effort, I guess, to negotiate to get our hostages back.
We talked about this on The Morning Answer yesterday, Seb, and it is so striking to me every single time, not to always bring it back to Trump, But how quickly this world has devolved, and I'm not talking about just our country and what we're paying for gas prices and our security at home and the crime rates here at home and the inflation, all of that that is obviously in the tank under Joe Biden.
But look at how the world stage has completely changed its face.
Every single one of our enemies is now more powerful today than they were three years ago.
And anybody who is sitting around wondering whether or not they can handle what Trump tweets or what he says, put on your big boy pants because we need someone who can actually lead and provide some stability around the world because I don't think, and I'm not an alarmist like this, I don't think we can withstand another couple of years or another four years of all of this nonsense.
It is wrong.
But it's okay, because Jake Tapper, who I think is Jewish, has finally discovered the anti-Semitism of the left.
So I'm impressed.
I'm this great investigative journalist.
Cut six, old Jakey!
The last few days have been a real eye-opening period for a lot of people, a lot of Democrats, a lot of progressives, in terms of anti-Semitism on the left.
A lot of people who seem more shocked at dehumanizing language used by world leaders to describe Hamas than what Hamas actually perpetrated on Saturday.
There's gambling in this casino!
The left is anti-Semitic!
I'm shocked, Jennifer!
Yeah, that's what I've been watching on social media unfold.
You know, my mom is a liberal.
I have a lot of friends who are on the left.
I live in California, for crying out loud.
Half of my social circle probably has leftist tendencies.
But I've been watching some of these folks on Instagram and some of the celebrity influencers.
I'll use air quotes around that.
They're tripping all over themselves to try to figure out how to say that the attacks were wrong on Israel, beheading babies is wrong, but they have a but in there that somehow they're trying to make this about a free Palestine.
I'm sorry, the people at that music festival were all about free Palestine.
They're all about a free world for the Palestinian people, and they were still gutted by these terrorists.
Appetite.
And it is interesting.
If it weren't so serious, it would be amusing to watch leftists and to watch the news media trip all over themselves and figure out how to handle this.
But it's sad because there's such a real tragedy at the bottom of all of it.
Yeah.
Well, let's show this.
This is shocking.
We played some very damning footage from Fox News, but I guess, you know, there's a couple of good people left.
Jesse waters and then this young journalist Hillary Vaughn this video I'm gonna post this separately so she's on the ground at Congress near the tunnels where they have that little mini railway between the two buildings and she goes to one of these anti-semites Rashida Tlaib who has this massive Palestinian flag and Outside her office, she's an American congresswoman, the woman who screamed in front of her six-year-old boy, the day she was sworn in, we're gonna impeach that MF-er.
Hillary Vaughn is just dogged, and she asks Rashida Tlaib about whether she's against killing babies.
Play cut.
Hamas terrorists have cut off babies' heads and burned children alive.
Do you support Israel's right to defend themselves against this brutality?
You can't comment about Hamas terrorists chopping off babies' heads?
Congresswoman, do you have a comment on Hamas terrorists chopping off babies' heads?
You have nothing to say about Hamas, Terry, chopping off babies' heads?
Do you condone what Hamas has done, chopping off babies' heads, burning children alive,
raping women in the street?
You have no comment about children's heads being chopped off?
Thank you.
Congressman, why do you have a Palestinian flag outside your office if you do not condone what Hamas terrorism does in Israel?
Do Israeli lives not matter to you?
There she gets in the elevator.
I don't know, Jen.
For me, you're the journalism media major.
For me, that's journalism.
Oh no, that was absolutely... I watched that this morning and first of all, Hilary Vaughn
is Peter Doocy's wife. There's a little connection there.
Yeah, she just recently had a baby and she was charging after Rashida Tlaib.
Waiting late, apparently, according to the story, she waited late because she knew Tlaib was still
in her office and she wanted to get that moment. So she waited because obviously Tlaib's people
were trying to wait for everybody to go home because they wanted to sneak her out.
She really followed her, and I think that is real journalism.
And by the way, Rashida Tlaib, and you heard she said nothing.
She couldn't respond.
She looked angry.
Her face, she was like angry.
And she looked over at her like you and Noah.
This shows the cockroaches for who they are.
If you can't look into a camera and say I condone people beheading babies and infants and raping women in the streets and literally gutting people, who are you?
How in the world can you explain that to your constituents?
Who are your constituents?
What does it say about them if they keep re-electing you because you clearly have no sense of empathy or human decency?
No, absolutely.
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There's no difference between this and 9-11, between Hamas and Al-Qaeda.
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They're all jihadis.
It's as I detailed in my book, Defeating Jihad.
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and I didn't I didn't connect the names I know.
I think it's cute.
They're a cute little, um... Uh-huh.
Although she's a fiery couple.
She's pretty short and he's super tall.
He's super tall?
I know.
That is true.
Oh, can you... Eric, can you get the footage we've been using from New York of the... It's Steele's photograph of the Monday demonstration.
Can you show him where it is, Guy?
Oh, hang on.
I think I know.
Well, there's several in here.
It's three.
It's three of them.
It's three.
One massive one with thousands of people.
One with the woman with the swastika and that one.
This one.
That one.
This one.
That one.
And then... No, one more.
There's the woman holding up the swastika as well.
Oh, this.
The New York Post.
Let me resize these a little bit.
They're a little conflated.
Give me a moment.
Gotta love a rally, these guys.
How about Black Lives Matter?
That was a nice one.
Yeah, we'll talk about that as well.
The thing is, you know it's not, this is not organic.
These are definitely being astroturfed.
So what did you think of our new senator while you were here, Eric?
I mean, leave it to, the funniest part to me is that she's not even from California.
That of course he found someone from Maryland.
Like, that's what happened in my district, Valdeo, when he got beaten by a guy who was from Maryland.
Like, I'm not surprised.
He picked a black woman, all right, like he said he would.
I mean, I get the sense she's not going to run again.
I think she's just a placeholder.
I think that this was actually because he, so she was solidly in Kamala's camp.
She was her top fundraiser.
She was like, she was a, the top ally probably that Kamala had.
And I think Newsom took her on purpose because he knows eventually it'll be Kamala and Gavin.
And I think he wants her on his side.
I think it was a little backdoor stab.
So do you think she will run for the full term, or is she going to step aside and let, you know, Schiff?
Because we know Pelosi wants Schiff.
I don't know.
And now we've got Steve Garvey getting into the race.
Who is he?
I've heard that name before.
Steve Garvey played first base for the Dodgers and the Padres.
Hmm.
Interesting.
Yeah.
I was having this conversation with a friend of mine because I say, Pelosi still very much has an iron fist over most of things California related, so if she wants Aaron Schiff to be Senator, he's probably going to be Senator.
Especially because Newsom is.
Newsom wants him too.
You think so?
Yeah.
Alright, well then that's all that needs to be said.
But he couldn't appoint him because he's white, and he's a man.
And you white men are real problems for us.
Okay, I'm getting the Rogan cut now.
I believe this is a censored version, but we can play it real quick.
Here it is.
There's good schools out here.
We're lucky.
California is much more problematic right now for schools because one of the things that was happening to me in my school where my kids used to go is they hired some person to teach them That they have to be anti-racists.
And it's not good enough to not be racist.
I'm like, my kids aren't racist at all.
Like, what are you doing?
Like, why are you putting that in their head?
That they have to be anti-racist and call out racism.
And like, they're trying to make kids activists.
I'm like, hey, they're five.
That's crazy.
You know, like, they don't even care.
They want, they want friends.
Oh, that's it.
So I guess.
So right about that.
Right, we'll play that.
You can tell he's mad too.
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And then I might play cut eight.
Oh, no, no, no.
Cut ten!
You gotta do cut ten.
Cut ten!
Gotta do cut ten.
Ooh, I'm excited.
What is cut ten?
She's probably seen it, but she doesn't know what we're referring to.
Okay.
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Be funny.
What's the hesitation?
Are you asking me?
I don't know.
I'm ready to be fun.
Let's go.
It's been a serious week.
Let's have some fun.
Let me ask, by the way, before we have some fun, what's it been like on this show with callers and listeners?
Tell me how your week has been.
The week, well, Monday Graham was out sick and Granston Childers, my co-host on Morning Answer.
Well, he was pretending to be sick, I know.
He was absolutely pretending to be sick.
And so we were back at it and really it was kind of wall-to-wall coverage of what happened in Israel.
We had phone calls all throughout the morning and so many people just realizing what a disgrace
our American leadership has been, how that has brought us to where we are on the world stage.
Of course, a lot of anger for Hamas.
The fact that our border is open, a huge concern to the people in California, to the people that have been calling our show.
So it's been rough.
Now, slowly but surely, we've been adding in some local stories and talking more about some of the big stuff in California.
We've got a new senator.
Gavin Newsom has been signing and vetoing a ton of different legislation.
So we've got some stuff going on with the city council.
So we've been following some more local stories as the days go on.
But this is such an overshadowing story.
And I don't know how you can look at even just some of the images coming out of Israel without just feeling it.
We had so many people in Southern California who were there for the holiday that were just trying to get back home and they still haven't been able to do it.
So a lot of different offshoots off of that story over the weekend.
Alright, it's going to be a tough few weeks and maybe months but our prayers are with the people of Israel and they need to finish this and they need to finish it for good.
Alright, let's get your sartorial.
You're a very elegant lady and I want to talk to you about another woman who... I think she's a little cuckoo.
You have to be a little cuckoo if you're going to talk about sex with your boyfriend as you're at the prayer breakfast.
What?
Yeah, Nancy Mace.
You missed that, right?
Oh, her!
Nancy Mace!
Oh my gosh, yes, of course!
That was very bizarre.
Yeah, but wait till you see this, okay?
This is brand new.
This is based upon her vote against Kevin McCarthy, which kind of shocked everybody because she's not exactly a big Trumper.
And Nancy Mace went to Congress in a very tight-fitting top With a scarlet letter on it.
And it's a little bit weird what she says.
Congresswoman Nancy Mace, cut ten.
I'm wearing the scarlet letter after the week that I just had last week, being a woman up here and being demonized for my vote and for my voice.
I'm here to let the rest of the world know and the country know I'm on the side of the people.
I'm not on the side of the establishment.
And I'm going to do the right thing every single time, no matter the consequences, because I don't answer to anybody in D.C.
I don't answer to anyone in Washington.
I only answer to the people.
Hey, Nancy!
It's not about you, Nancy.
Can you just comment?
That's like helter-skelter.
That's like ex-girlfriend who's scary.
Yeah, watch out for your bunny rabbits, right?
A little fetal attraction.
I had not seen that audio or that video yet, but it does answer a question that Nancy Mace voted to get rid of Kevin McCarthy for her own career, clearly, because she's out there.
Because I was wondering, I mean, we know why Matt Gaetz initiated all of this.
We know what some of these other Republicans were thinking when they voted against Kevin McCarthy, and I respect it.
But I was so dang confused about Nancy Mace.
Like, what was that all about?
And I listened to Kevin McCarthy talk about how He was very surprised because he had given, I think, Nancy Mace, like, I don't know, $50,000 or $60,000, I guess, to run for her race.
And he was helping her raise money and all of this stuff for getting her into Congress.
And he was very surprised that she turned on him.
And so I thought, you know, this is kind of peculiar.
What was she thinking?
Well, obviously, now we know.
She was trying to make a name for herself, because you don't put yourself in a very, very tight, skimpy t-shirt with an A on it... Hang on, hang on.
The whole idea... ...and head in front of cameras and talk like that.
The whole idea that she had to have that made.
Of course she did.
What kind of weirdo says, I need to have a skin-tight t-shirt with a scarlet letter... I mean, you have to... it's just creepy!
Do you think she's jealous of AOC?
Because I feel like that's what this vibe is.
Like she's trying to be the AOC of the Republican Party, you think?
Yes, with the tax the rich $15,000, you know, garlic dress.
Kind of a hottie-tottie.
I'm speaking out for you, but really it's all about me.
Yeah.
Oh, that makes sense.
All right, let's continue with a little bit more fun.
I haven't heard of this nickname.
What is it?
It's Petro Pete, right, Eric?
That's what they came up with.
Petroleum Pete.
So here's Boot Edge Edge being booted off stage by a bunch of lefties who think he's in the pocket of pig oil.
And this is just delicious.
Cut eight.
...divided by a little racism, and it's about the climate impact this project will have.
How are you convinced to stop this project?
Secretary, would you care to address this?
Yeah, for sure.
So this has to do with a set of... Describe what the proposal is, where it is, and where it is in the process.
So, I don't want to say anything off the cuff, but I respect whatever... 80,000 comments have been submitted... ...communities have spoken...
Stop Spot and Golf Link!
Stop Petro P!
Stop Spot and Golf Link!
Stop Petro P!
Stop Petro, Pete.
This is the revolution eating itself, Jen.
I love it.
Isn't it great when things like this happen?
It's amazing.
And he's so uncomfortable.
You can see him just kind of shifting around in his chair, not knowing what to say.
These people need to take a lesson from Vivek Ramaswamy.
Say what you will about him, whether he's a great candidate or not.
Obviously, I'm voting for Donald Trump, so it really doesn't matter.
But Vivek, when he gets protesters in his events, he calls them up on stage and has a conversation with them.
Which is the best way to diffuse the situation, right?
To let people know you're listening and to talk things out.
Petro Pete seemed very uncomfortable and I love that nobody really loves Pete anymore.
I guess maybe he should have ridden into the event on his bike.
This is the guy who's supposed to be the next president for the Democrats.
Good luck.
I think Gavin Newsom just knocked, I think hair gel Gav just knocked out Petro Pete.
Petro Pete.
Petro Pete.
He will never wash that stain off him, him and his security.
Well, he used to be Mayor Pothole, remember?
So I guess this is a step up.
Yeah, Mayor Pothole, now Petro Pete, and then telling the security detail to get his bicycle out of the back of the SUV two blocks from the actual offices where he works.
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Oh my gosh.
To even, okay, if you think you're the marked woman, to make a prop out of it?
I know.
Be like, oh yeah, I'm so marked, look at me.
I mean, come on.
Give me a break.
Weirdo.
And nobody cares about Nancy Bees.
Everybody just scrunched, like, they scratched their head going, what was she thinking?
Weirdo.
What do you think of Scalise, by the way?
I love him.
I love Scalise.
I think he's great.
And also, I think it's a cool, um, Not ploy, but it's going to be hard to vote against a guy who walks with a cane and who was almost killed by a Bernie Sanders supporter.
He's not an establishment guy.
That's what people are always saying about Scalise, that he's dialed into McCarthy.
They don't like each other.
And McCarthy was actively kind of pushing for Jim Jordan, I heard, behind the scenes.
Really?
Really?
Max Miller always said he's not going to support him.
Why would... Eric, did you say Max Miller?
Yeah, Max Miller and Boebert.
What a joke that is of Max Miller.
Last week he was going ballistic on McCarthy.
That was a week ago.
Why would McCarthy want Jordan?
Yeah, I don't get that.
I don't know.
That's a good question.
But I had heard from behind the scenes that he was sending out, you know, he was making a few phone calls on behalf of Jordan.
And that surprised me.
And I don't know.
I love Jim Jordan.
I was not unhappy with Steve Scalise or Jim Jordan, you know.
And I think probably Steve Scalise, as you mentioned, optically, is going to be better because so many people tie Jordan with Trump that is, you know, to try to get things done, they're going to hold it against him.
And also, I mean, as a minority whip, he knows what he's doing.
It's because, I'll tell you why McCarthy did it, because he thinks Jordan wouldn't get confirmed, he'd have another shot at getting back in.
That actually is probably true, Jeff.
He'd nominate someone who's more radical, quote-unquote.
That is probably true.
Because he wants to get back in, he's been saying it.
So the only thing I'm wondering is, why did Trump pick Jordan, then?
We don't pick him, we just endorse him.
And he called Scalise.
Scalise was so cool.
Scalise was like, yeah, I know, you know, Trump, you know, President Trump called me and explained why he was endorsing Jim Jordan and he's my friend and he was there for me in my darkest time.
I mean, Scalise was a class act with it.
Could have been nasty, but.
Totally.
I just can't believe Max Miller.
That was a week ago.
So why explain?
Who is Max Miller?
He's from Ohio.
Because he was going ballistic about the chaos.
Yeah.
Gates is working with the Democrats.
Not three years ago.
Last week.
And now he's going to oppose who they come up with?
He's going to oppose it.
Wow.
Stupid.
These people are all looking for the big money contracts.
They're all looking for the attention.
If it was last year, he might have a case.
But it was not even a full week ago.
Last week.
Posting pictures of Kevin.
This is my speaker and all the stuff.
This is our speaker.
It's just ridiculous Oh, he supports McCarthy.
I was confused.
I thought oh, I thought you meant like he was against McCarthy No, but I'm saying how can you?
Now I'll be against the committee, you know what I mean?
Right.
Oh, man.
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This is pretty horrific.
It is an Israeli woman talking about how her grandmother was killed and how her death was posted on Facebook.
We'll play a little bit of the clip in Hebrew and then we'll start it again and then I'll translate for you what she's saying.
in COP 14.
In tears.
Open Facebook.
Open Facebook.
Mom couldn't even open it.
Her hand and her whole body.
I opened my phone, and I saw a mess.
I opened my phone and saw a scream.
I saw the biggest disaster that can be imagined.
I saw the biggest disaster that can be imagined.
And I'll tell you what this beautiful young lady is saying.
So let's play.
When we got out, my aunt called my mother, frantically.
In tears, open your eyes.
She said, open Facebook, open Facebook now.
Mom couldn't open it at all.
She was trembling.
I opened Facebook from my phone and I saw the worst.
You could possibly imagine my grandmother on the floor in her house being murdered on video.
The entire floor covered in blood.
My grandmother lying there.
The terrorist just took her private phone, filmed her, and uploaded it to her private Facebook page.
That's how we found out.
That's how we learned about it.
We screamed at the top of our lungs.
Everyone here just lost it.
We screamed.
It's the most horrible thing you could ever imagine.
And run through your head.
It just doesn't leave us even now.
It won't leave us for the rest of our lives.
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Would you do that for me?
Would you do that for that grandmother who was murdered by Hamas, who murdered her and filmed it on her phone and then uploaded it onto her Facebook page so her family could see it and would never ever be able to forget it?
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Now, while most of the world's disgusted by this Hamas attack, Black Lives Matter liked it.
The group's Chicago chapter announced they stand with Palestine and included this image of a paratrooper, as in the terrorists who parachuted into Israel to behead babies.
BLM stands with them.
BLM officially burned through all their political capital now.
Plus, they burned through millions in donations.
They spent the money on mansions.
This is the true face of BLM.
They're on the side of terrorists.
They just announced it.
And they're not alone.
35 student groups at Harvard University issued a joint statement blaming Israel for Saturday's attack.
These are future business leaders, future politicians, future members of the press.
And they're backing the side that's beheading babies.
Stunning.
We'll discuss at length with our special one-on-one guest, Lee Smith, in the third hour.
Jeff, is BLM done now?
If they're on the side of the baby decapitators, are they finished in America?
Unfortunately, I don't think so.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Maybe when they run out of mansions to buy, maybe then they'll be a little less relevant.
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You know, Tlaib, I live here in Detroit.
She had a rally for Palestinians last night and nobody heard about it, which probably was a good thing.
She had a what last night, Mike?
Oh, she had a rally in support of Palestinians here in Detroit.
Where?
Detroit, Michigan.
Oh yeah, no, I saw the post.
Yeah, I thought you meant here in D.C.
No, I saw the posting on social media.
Absolutely, it was disgraceful.
Yeah, you know, Hamas, their idea of creating and destroying Israel and creating an Islamic state, they're no different than ISIS when you look at their ideology of genocide and their behavior.
And these people are portraying them as if they're a civil rights movement.
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I saw them protesting Israel and calling us the Great Satan and Israel the Little Satan.
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It's us.
Of course, I know, but they've been told that if you're brown-skinned, you're the victim, and if you're white or Jewish, which is weird because they're not exactly Caucasian, they're Semitic, then you're somehow the oppressor.
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Because it's where we get to dig a little bit deeper.
Yes, news is moving fast.
Yes, there are a lot of issues to cover.
But when we have, you know, a burgeoning world war in the Middle East, we need more than sound bites.
We need to talk long form and we need to talk to true experts.
We are honored today to talk to somebody who, well, He's the person I trust to help me understand that benighted part of the world that is the Middle East.
He's the author of numerous works.
You know the ones he's written domestically, The Plot Against the President, The Permanent Coup.
The one which is relevant today is The Strong Horse, Power, Politics, and the Clash of Arab Civilizations.
He's a dear friend.
Lee Smith, welcome back to America First.
Thank you, Seb.
Great to be here with you.
Let's start by putting the events of the last few days into proper context.
We've had many commentators and we've had actually Israeli officials say this is the greatest loss of Jewish life since the end of World War II and the Holocaust.
Is that hyperbolic or is that historically correct?
No, I think it's historically correct in the images that we've seen, mostly on social media.
Rather than the mainstream press but I mean of course these are as horrific and you know those are images that those are images that we saw as children that Americans and Europeans have been raised on and and and the lesson is is that this is that this must never happen again that this is this is horrific and on our watch as Christians or Jews or atheists or whatever this must never happen again and And so we're seeing these same sorts of images and most of
the world is rightly appalled and terrorized because they're meant to terrorize us and
were terrorized.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so if that is correct, if this is the worst assault on innocent men, women and children since the Holocaust, let's dig deeper.
Let's talk about the consequences and let's talk about the actors.
So, this organization, Hamas, that is functioning out of the Gaza, you know these organizations, you know these actors.
Will you explain to our millions of listeners right now what exactly is Hamas, what is its goals, and who funds them?
Right.
Hamas is the Islamist group run out of the Palestinian enclaves.
It rules Gaza.
But Hamas also has a presence in Palestinian camps in places like Lebanon.
Hamas has figures spread throughout the Middle East, including in Turkey and Qatar as well.
The key fact that I really want to emphasize, Seb, is that is that Hamas is funded by the Iranians and that's important because the Biden administration is very keen
to disguise Iran's role.
They will admit that Iran supports Hamas, but they won't admit Iran's role in the planning of this particular campaign.
And the reason that they don't want to talk about this is because a key Biden administration foreign policy goal, as it was with Barack Obama, is to make Iran a US partner.
And Gaza, of course, is greatly embarrassing to the Biden White House, because they want to partner with a terrorist state that is behind operations, behind assaults.
Like this one.
So that's really the key thing to understand.
And the really important thing to understand is why the Biden administration is hiding this.
We see a lot of people on social media and some people in the press who are saying things
like, oh, this will lead to World War III, and they're trying to lead the Americans into
World War III to fight Iran.
It's very, very important for people to understand that the Biden administration is not opposed
to the Iranians, right?
Starting with Barack Obama, the purpose of the Iran nuclear deal was to legalize Iran's
nuclear weapons program.
I know it was very confusing at the time for lots of people because they couldn't believe that Barack Obama, that an American president, would lie about something as consequential.
As legalizing the nuclear weapons program of a terrorist state with lots of American blood on its hands, but that's precisely what they did.
It was not to stop Iran from getting the bomb.
It was to legalize and legitimize Iran's nuclear weapons program.
That was the point.
So starting with Obama, of course, Trump.
Withdrew from that deal in May 2018.
Therefore, when Biden came to the White House, it was a key foreign policy goal.
And without the Russia-Ukraine war, this would have been their central foreign policy initiative.
This was their central foreign policy initiative?
Can you explain why on earth empowering a nuclear Iran would be something an administration would want to do?
Well, the geostrategic rationale was, for Barack Obama anyway, it was to partner with the Iranians to upgrade relations with the Islamic Republic and to downgrade relations with traditional U.S.
allies like Israel and like Saudi Arabia.
Why?
Because the Iranians, Obama believed, could maintain U.S.
interests That's a generous geostrategic reason.
I think that we also need to look at typically with American foreign policy, we look at partners, we look at alliances and we say, well, one of the reasons that we're aligned with Israel or France or the United Kingdom Italy is because we share democratic values, share values with these pillars of Western civilization.
The Obama administration shares values with the Islamic Republic of Iran.
I know that's going to sound harsh to some people and unreasonable, but remember what we've seen the last several years here, right?
We saw the Obama administration use the intelligence services to spy on a presidential campaign, then the President of the United States.
What is this administration doing now?
This administration is using intelligence services to round up members of the political opposition and put them in jail simply for opposing the Biden administration.
This is what Regimes run by security services like Iran's do.
So they share different values than people.
People ask, like, why does Obama and why does Biden, why do they seem to love Iran so much?
Because of this.
And it's the same with China.
Right.
Because what what what these different regimes can get away with with their political opposition.
Those are the shared values.
Those are the shared ideas.
Barack Obama admires the Iranian regime.
He said, I think it was about 2014, he told a meeting with Gulf Arab officials, why don't you get your own Quds Force?
And of course, the Quds Force is Iran's expeditionary unit.
It's a terrorism unit that was run by Qassem Soleimani until Donald Trump Killed Soleimani during his administration.
But Barack Obama said, yeah, why don't you get something like that?
A hard man to carry your interest across the region.
This is the purpose that Barack Obama wanted hard men like the Iranians and their assets, including Hezbollah and Hamas, to manage American interest across the Middle East.
I got a very innocent but justified question from one of my team members on Monday who said, why do these guys, why does this administration support all of these people like China, like Iran?
Why do they support them?
And you get these flashes where you get the simple answer that you know is the right answer.
If you hate America as an American, You're going to support those who hate America outside of our nation.
It's really that simple.
When you look at the left, you look at their ideology, their hatred for what the founding principles of the nation actually represent, well of course you will find sympathetic those regimes, those actors around the world who likewise hate America.
It's hard to say this.
Sometimes it kind of Stretches believability.
But if you detest America as an American, of course you're going to be sympathetic to those who detest America outside of the United States.
Thank you for your clarity, Lee.
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Now Lee, it's always difficult to put oneself in the mind of individuals who can, you know,
behead babies, rape innocent women before they kill them, but we have to try and...
Um...
Posit some kind of end state.
What is the end state of the proxy, Hamas, and the backer, Iran?
You know, it's clear the classic insurgent wants the government to overreact.
They want them to go in there to have collateral damage.
They can point to that and say, see, Israel is bad.
They bomb, you know, apartment buildings.
But what is the end state?
Because if I were Israel, and I've been saying this for the last three days, this is the time when you just finish the job.
This is the time when you push these people into the sea and the individuals who have been killing women and children are terminated.
They have a bullet through the skull or they're turned into red mist.
What is Hamas or Iran trying to achieve with this invasion of Israel?
I mean, I think the big thing was it was just, I mean, it was a show of force.
I mean, that's what's important for them.
It was a real show of force.
And they got the response clearly that they wanted.
It's a massive act of terror, as profound, I think, as 9-11.
And I was in New York during 9-11.
It's as profound as the reports that we see coming out.
People across the world are horrified.
So that seems to me to be the main purpose.
Iran made a very Very impressive point.
What the Israeli response will be like?
Seb, I think you're right and that's certainly what Israeli officials, starting with the Prime Minister and now the Defense Minister, Yoav Galant, what they seem to be saying, that they are going to change the nature I've changed the nature of Gaza, because as you were also suggesting, as you were also talking about, we've seen different flare-ups over the years, and they're very serious, lots of people have died, but that Israel has to go in, and it's referred to as mowing the lawn, having to take care of a certain amount of Hamas activists, getting peace for a little bit, and then it comes back to this every year or so, or every two years, but this is very different.
I imagine, look, I mean, they're quite serious about wanting to destroy Israel.
So is Hezbollah going to join forces from the north?
Will the Iranians themselves get involved?
So I think these are all very important questions, but I think a lot of it will come down to what What will the Israelis be able to do before the Biden administration starts putting tremendous amounts of pressure on Israel to stop?
And then the other question will be, to what extent does the prime minister and does his security cabinet listen to the Biden administration?
Before they say, I'm sorry, they slaughtered infants.
We're past the UN here.
And by the way, you don't offer us a lot of political support at the UN anymore.
And we know you're partnered with Iran.
I mean, this won't be a conversation for public.
But will they say sorry?
But, you know, we've seen reports of aircraft carrier groups moving into the eastern Mediterranean.
And I have to say, this is not to support Israel, right?
They're not there to join the fight and support the Israelis against these Iranian assets.
What they're there for is the different American assets that are being deployed or that may be deployed are there to As deterrence against Israeli actions, when the Biden administration and other international actors, right, we saw on one of the very first day, I believe it was Sunday, Secretary Blinken was speaking through the Turkish foreign minister, Hakan Fidan, saying, yes, we must have a ceasefire right away.
I believe that that tweet may have been deleted, but you can see how eager The Biden administration is to bring an end to the fighting.
Among other things, they're usually embarrassed.
Again, this is why they're trying to obscure the fact that Iran was part of the operational planning.
Look, we have to keep in mind who arms these boys, who trains them, right?
That's the Iranians, okay?
Qatar is not training them.
Qatar is not arming them.
They're giving them money.
But so who is responsible for this?
This is the Iranians.
And so when Blinken says, of the millions and billions we're sending Iran, none of it will be used for anything except humanitarian purposes.
I mean, that's just risible, isn't it?
Well, I mean, other smarter people, perhaps even with degrees in accounting, have made this case much better than me that, you know, that money is fungible, right?
It's pretty easy to move from one ledger into another.
I think the larger point is this.
The larger point is, is that when you make 16 billion dollars available to a terror state, What you're doing is, it's a sign of friendship, of partnership, not hostility.
And this is another thing for people to understand when they talk about the U.S.
wanting to go to a war with Iran.
You don't legalize a terrorist state's nuclear weapons program, and you don't make available to it hundreds of billions of dollars over the last decade, short, of course, accepting the Donald Trump years.
If you want to go to war with it, they're signaling partnership.
That to me is the most important thing about that money that they've made available to the Iranians.
It's not simply what the Iranians are doing with the money, it's the sign to all of the world.
The Iranians, you might not like it, you might think our girlfriend is crazy, but that's my girlfriend.
That's the point of the money.
That's why the hundreds of billions of dollars have been flowing to the Iranians since, even
before 2015, since 2013, when they first started negotiating the nuclear deal.
That's why the Obama administration started paying the Iranians.
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When you give, when you release billions of dollars to any government, no matter what
the color of that government, you're signaling what?
I am your friend.
I support you.
That is what Biden is doing with Iran.
That's what Obama did with Iran.
We did the opposite.
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Let's talk for a moment about what happened under our administration Lee.
Can you just put into context how different what what we achieved in those four years not only
canceling the the Obama Iran deal but with the Abraham Accords.
Why is it that we had no wars?
For four years, and now we have wars in Europe, we have wars in the Middle East.
Put it in, put, put this, you know, what is it, um, that senator from Illinois, Barack Obama said, elections have consequences.
Don't they ever, Lee?
Well, I want to talk specifically about the Abraham Accords for a second, because it's very important that people understand what the Abraham Accords were really about.
What Donald Trump did was recognizing what the Barack Obama administration had done by empowering, turbocharging Iran.
Donald Trump said, no, what we're going to do is, because the Obama administration was trying to draw its own map of the region, right, with Iran at the center of it.
Including Hezbollah, including Shia militias in Iraq, backed by Iran, Hezbollah, the Houthis in Yemen.
What Donald Trump just said, no, we're going to restore the traditional order, the U.S.
order of the Middle East, which will include, of course, our traditional allies like Israel.
Like United Arab Emirates, like Bahrain, several other countries as well.
And that was the point of the Abraham Accords, to bring together all of these different states, traditional American allies.
Now, when the Biden administration, because a lot of people are talking about the US-Saudi negotiations, right?
This is not what Joe Biden was trying to do, not what this administration was trying to do.
First of all, the Saudis had essentially bought into the Abraham Accords through Bahrain, which Bahrain is basically a Saudi province.
So the Saudis already indicated they bought into the regional order backed by the United States, led by Donald Trump.
What the Biden administration was trying to do with the Saudi-Israel deal was they were trying to weaken two things.
They were trying to weaken Netanyahu's government by, two, restoring the Palestinian veto.
This is one of the things that the Abraham Accords did, right?
For years, American policymakers believed this garbage that, oh, there can't be peace in the Middle East without the Palestinians in the center of it.
Donald Trump tried that for a little bit, said, OK, it's not going to work.
Forget it.
We'll have peace with the Israelis, with the Moroccans, with Sudan.
That's how we're going to do it.
We're going to forget the Palestinians, not Joe Biden, not the Joe Biden administration and the Barack Obama officials who fill it.
Their idea was, no, we're going to return the Palestinian veto.
To the Middle East.
And we see what returning the Palestinian veto now means.
What does it look like?
It means thousands of Israelis slaughtered in their homes.
That's what it means to return the Palestinian veto.
To the Middle East.
The other purpose, again, was to topple Benjamin Netanyahu's government.
Because the whole idea was giving the Palestinians a veto, and members of Netanyahu's government said, no, this is insane, we'll leave the government.
That's the pressure they wanted to put Netanyahu under.
So what the Biden administration did with the Saudi-Israel deal, this totally fake deal, what they wanted to do was topple Bibi and cause chaos by reintroducing the Palestinians.
And that's what they did.
Mission accomplished, Biden administration.
That's why, that's what's going on.
And the fact that they were looking to do this to him.
Power the Iranians.
The Saudis knew what was going on.
The Israelis knew what was going on, too.
But that's what happens when you have madmen, pathological figures in the White House.
Our allies like Saudi and Israel, they have to jump.
A little background, you know, inside baseball.
One of the first things we rejected, Jared and everybody else and Ambassador Friedman, we were told, you can't have peace in the Middle East without the Palestinians!
And we said, why?
And we ignored that garbage and we got the Abraham Accords.
Now everything is reversed and we have war in the Middle East.
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Let's just talk about one thing that nobody else, nobody in the mainstream media, the
legacy-lying media is discussing.
Can you explain who Rob Malley is and why this is the big story of the war?
Right.
Oh, I think it's very, very important.
Rob Malley was first, he was Barack Obama's Iran envoy, and then Joe Biden tapped him to be his Iran envoy.
This was one of the first appointments that Joe Biden made as he entered the White House in January 2021.
So what we found out recently, a cache of Iranian emails, we found that the Iranians had set up a spy ring That was tapping a number of second-generation Iranians in Western capitals, including several in Washington DC who were affiliated with different think tanks.
One of the think tanks, let's say an NGO, was a place called International Crisis Group, which I might add is funded with many tens of millions of dollars by George Soros and friends of George Soros.
So Mali was supporting different members of this Iranian spy ring at International Crisis Group.
That was the name of the NGO.
When Mali re-entered government service in January 2021, he took another member of this spy ring, a woman named Ariana Tabatabai.
and brought her into the State Department, right?
We have emails of hers corresponding with Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps officials, asking for directions on how to interact with American officials, with Saudi officials, and Israeli officials.
So Mali brought her into the State Department, and now she's in the Pentagon.
And the office she's in in the Pentagon, she is the Chief of Staff For the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations.
Right, right.
Yeah, it's pretty astonishing.
And I think that's important.
I think that's a very important story, Seb, because I think that's how people need to see what's unfolding.
And that's how they need to understand the Biden administration's role in what's going on.
So when we ask questions like, Why isn't the Biden administration acknowledging that the Iranians supported this operation?
Why won't they come clean on that?
Because, look, they have an Iranian agent working at the Department of Defense.
And like the money we were talking about, the billions and billions of dollars, having an Iranian agent working in the U.S.
government signals what?
Right.
It signals that they consider the Islamic Republic of Iran a partner, not an adversarial regime.
The intelligence services regard the Iranians as a what an intelligence official officer friend of mine says, a non-frat country.
Iran, Russia.
China, Cuba, these frat countries.
And the fact that she was in touch with foreign officials from a country like that should
have precluded her immediately from getting any sort of security clearance at all.
Instead, she's in that office at the Pentagon.
So this should tell us, this should inform us about what the Biden administration regards
So that's why that story is important.
It's not just a scandal, right?
A political scandal and a huge intelligence failure.
She's still there.
Chief of Staff in the Pentagon to the Assistant Secretary of Special Operations.
So we have that.
We have the penetration of the Iranians into the highest levels of government under the Obama and Biden administrations.
What about civil society?
What about the streets of New York?
We have these scenes from Sunday night, from Monday morning, the demonstrations.
It looks like Gaza.
It looks like, you know, you're in the West Bank.
We have the photograph that made it to, you know, massive banners.
Globalize the Intifada.
And then we have this image caught on the front cover of the New York Post with a Muslim woman holding up a swastika on her phone.
Will you explain to us that this isn't just, you know, the corruption of jihadi nations into government, but this is a far more dispersed problem?
I think, I think, Seb, what struck me is that as important an issue as immigration is right now, And by the way, this reminds me of what I wanted to say when your colleague was asking, why do they want to give the Iranians a bomb?
Can you explain it?
And OK, you're talking about evil and good and stuff, but I don't get it.
It needs to be seen as part of a larger constellation.
Why has Joe Biden opened up our southern border?
Why have anywhere between 7 to 10 million illegals crossed that border since Biden has become president?
The images that we've seen from southern Israel, the images that Americans have seen, I'm sure you've seen it too, Seb.
Sorry.
You've heard people talk about it.
You've seen them respond to these pictures.
on social media, and this is going to make immigration even more and more important.
Who are we letting across, not just in terms of terrorists, not just in terms of spies,
not just in terms of felons, but are these—is it possible that these people can possibly
integrate into American society?
We're seeing people who are supporting the beheading of infants.
It's absolutely insane.
We're seeing people who are supporting unspeakable things that happened in southern Israel.
So people are going to start to talk about immigration even more.
Who are we letting across the border?
Who did Joe Biden, who did our government expose us to?
So I expect this to become, again, even more important than it already is.
So that's how it's going to affect us here at home.
And remember, 9-11 was less than 20 terrorists We've had 150 on the terror watch this cross into America
in just the last couple of months and in the last two and a half years we've had 8 million.
That we know of, 8 million illegals that we know of and if you're a bad guy, if you're
Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, ISIS, you are going to be putting your assets into those
immigration streams.
It is an absolute no-brainer.
Is it 10,000?
Is it 100,000?
Nobody knows because they have opened our borders.
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The big question, and I know neither of us has a crystal ball, but where does this end?
Can Israel destroy Hamas?
Can Iran be put back in its box?
Or do we have to wait for the likes of President Trump to be back in the White House, God willing, if we do our part?
Where does this end, Lee?
Again, I suspect what it's finally going to come down to is that the government of Israel is going to have to make a decision about About whether or not they listen to the United States, because the Biden administration is going to want to pull them down as soon as possible, right?
I mean, again, this is part of what's already happening by sending these carrier groups into the eastern Mediterranean.
That's what they're there for, right?
To get the Israelis to climb down.
So it's going to depend on a lot.
And so I think whatever is going to happen, whatever will happen, Remark is going to mark a very big geopolitical shift for the United States, but certainly most especially for Israel.
I think that the Israelis will go as far as they can, and I believe that they're quite serious eradicating, driving Hamas out of Gaza.
What exactly that will look like, how long that will take, These are questions that I think we'll have a lot more insight into over the coming weeks.
Longer than days, probably over the coming weeks.
And in a sentence or two, what do you say to those, quote-unquote, conservatives who say, this isn't our war and we have nothing to do with this, Lee?
Yeah, the Israelis have never asked for our help.
The Israelis do not want American forces there.
And typically, when the Obama administration sent American forces there, it was to, you know, to operate different systems.
It was to also spy on the Israelis, right, especially regarding Iran.
This is not about sending U.S.
troops to Israel.
It's not about sending U.S.
troops to the Mediterranean, right?
And it's not just that Israel is an American ally.
It's about what we are facing at home as well, right?
They are staring.
We've seen it very clearly.
They're staring at brutality.
And people on the right who talk about things like honor.
We talk about things like protecting their family.
We talk about things like protecting the virtue of their women and how strong men need strong women.
Well, what are the Israelis doing?
What are the Israeli Defense Forces doing if not saying, I'm going to go and protect my family?
I can't believe that this outrage has happened to my nation, it's happened to my family, it's happened to my community.
I frankly don't understand, I frankly do not understand how people on the right cannot understand it.
Unless that these people are just talking about something on social media and they don't really believe it because this is the reality that the Israelis are living.
They're going out protecting their families, protecting their nation.
Much of it comes from the ignorance, as Dan Bongino said yesterday, it comes from people who have never seen demons.
They haven't seen this in real life and therefore they are ignorant.
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