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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Israel's 9/11: What happens next?
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President Trump's foreign policy.
You've alluded to this during the conversation.
The tweets, the United States has never been this close to nuclear war.
Do you agree with them?
Yeah.
They would not trust Donald Trump with the nuclear codes or to have his finger on the nuclear button.
Donald Trump could lead America into nuclear war on a whim.
President Trump could put the nation on the path to World War III and that the president's tweets have in some instances undermined American diplomacy.
Because it's not hard to imagine Donald Trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his skin.
The president's actions are endangering the country and his threats to other nations could lead to another world war.
This is not a business deal.
This is not who builds the next skyscraper.
The Middle East in flames.
Israel has formally declared war after that unprecedented multi-pronged terror attack from Hamas.
Several Americans are now confirmed to be among the dead.
We were told, dear friends, for what, four years, that President Trump would ignite World War III, that he would pull us out of NATO, and that he'd destabilize Asia and the Middle East.
Do you remember what it was like under those four years?
We had peace.
We were safe.
Welcome, dear friends.
I'm Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to the President of the United States.
This weekend has witnessed the greatest assault and loss of life in Israel since the Holocaust, since the creation of the, or the recreation of the Israeli state in 1948.
In coordinated attacks across the nation, air, sea and land, hundreds of Israelis, many women and children, were murdered, murdered in their homes, in their beds and hundreds more have been taken hostage and taken back to the tunnels, the hidey holes, the bases of Hamas and all the proxies that are supported in that region by Iran.
Why did this happen?
It happened for a multiplicity of reasons, but I'll give you the three biggest.
The most important one is, evil is no longer afraid.
Those who would rape and murder a young woman, and then parade her body through the streets, shouting, Allah wakbar!
God is great!
Those people are no longer afraid.
Why?
Because America is not to be feared.
Under the lack of leadership of Joe Biden and his Obama era cronies, America has supported evildoers around the world, has kowtowed to them.
And the worst of all is of course the Iranian regime, the mullahs, who have had millions of dollars and now billions of dollars provided to them and released for their purposes as they see fit.
As a result of evildoers fearing no evil themselves, what has happened in the last two and a half years?
The world has erupted.
There hasn't been war with tanks, with main battle tanks, with jet fighters and bombers and missiles on the territory of the Eurasian landmass since 1945.
But as soon as Joe Biden Surrendered to the Taliban in Afghanistan so he could get some kind of photo op for the anniversary of 9-11 and say, mission accomplished, I guess.
Costing the lives of 13 servicemen and women.
Putin knew he could take Ukraine.
And so he did.
Likewise, With, for some reason, the Biden administration wanting to revivify the Obama deal that we killed.
Let me be clear.
The proudest moment of my life in the Trump administration was when I and Steve Bannon were called by the president's outer office.
He said, bring me my heavies.
That's what he called me and Steve.
And we went to the Oval Office.
And we found most of the cabinet arrayed there, sitting on the couch, in the armchairs, standing in front of the resolute desk where the president was sat.
And he said, he turned to me as that dipsomaniac National Security Advisor, as Rex Tillerson, Reince Priebus was standing there.
He said, Steve, Seb, tell them why we have to kill the Iran deal and why it's bad.
And we did!
Steve and I explained why giving billions of dollars to Iran isn't just bad for the Middle East, it's bad for us!
Because on Friday, what do they say in the mosques of Tehran?
They say, Death to the Great Satan!
Who's that?
We are the Great Satan!
They want to destroy us!
And once we explained to the assembled cabinet members, that's when the president said, OK, I'm killing it.
And we did.
No more funding of terrorism out of US taxpayer coffers.
Proudest moment of my time as deputy assistant to the president.
How safe do you feel today?
Last night and today there were protests in New York by people who are protesting what?
They're not protesting the rapes, the murders of unarmed men, women and children.
These pictures aren't the West Bank.
They aren't Gaza.
They're 42nd Street.
They're Manhattan.
They're the theater district.
And just listen to what one of the protesters said last night.
In New York.
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We're done hiding!
We're done!
We're done being tortured and hurt and judged!
This is the correct religion!
This is the religion that all of humanity needs to be a part of Islam!
And we will not stop until it enters every home!
So I want you to repeat after me!
I want to hear it in every single district!
It should tremble!
Brooklyn should hear it!
The Bronx should hear it!
Queens should hear it!
Say it as if the ummah depends on this, my brothers and sisters.
La ilaha illallah.
Muhammad Rasulullah.
There is no god worthy of worship except Allah.
Bye.
That was in New York.
In Israel, As they're beating a woman, pulling her out of the back of a jeep who'd been raped, who was bleeding from her nether regions.
What did they shout?
They shouted, Allah is great.
Just listen.
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Cut 20.
Allahu Akbar!
There is no religion on earth that shouts, God is good, as they're kidnapping, beating and raping a woman.
Except one.
You know which one.
Evil is free again, thanks to Joe Biden and the left.
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This is what I have so far for Freedman's Chiron.
Dr. G, if you want to take a look.
Go ahead.
Ambassador Friedman, former ambassador.
Yes, good, excellent, alright, excellent, good.
Oh, and we need his book.
I've got that, too.
Can you put it up?
Sledgehammer, okay.
Okay, great You have a title for that
You You
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you Now who could imagine a war?
Right with people pouring into our country and we have no idea from where they come
The same people in many cases, the same people that just attacked Israel.
You know that, right?
Can you imagine what this guy has done to us, what he's done to us, that would have never happened?
The attack on Israel would never, ever have happened.
The attack on Ukraine would never have happened.
They're just statements of empirical fact at this point.
They never ever would have happened if that man were still in the White House.
One of his team members, who Must be broken-hearted right now because of what he built with the president's son-in-law.
I consider a personal friend.
One of the saddest things in my life was after I'd left the administration, I was invited to go back to Israel to visit.
I've been there many times for the unveiling of our new embassy and the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital.
I couldn't go for family reasons.
I regret that we hadn't had that opportunity to be there.
The man who made that possible and created so much good in that region was the President's personal representative, Ambassador Israel, a friend of America First.
Ambassador David Friedman, welcome to the Salem Radio Network.
Thank you, Seb.
It's good to be with you on this dark day.
So, we spoke in the break.
I'm keeping you and your family and your loved ones in our prayers.
I have friends who have their sons have deployed back from America to Israel as officers in the IDF.
We keep them all in our prayers.
We keep the civilians of Israel in our prayers.
And I'll just say one thing and then I'll let you speak uninterrupted.
I hope that now Israel Crushes her enemies into the dust and then salts the earth.
That's Sebastian Gorka talking.
Ambassador Friedman, please give us your reaction to the events of the last 72 hours.
I think I would start off by saying that in the last two days we have seen assaults on the Jewish people The likes of which, the cruelty of which, the barbarity of which we have not seen since the Holocaust.
And I don't think I'm exaggerating.
A thousand people killed.
Not soldiers.
Killed by Hamas terrorists that, for reasons that we'll one day understand, but now it's a mystery how they were able to get through, but managed to breach the border fence that hasn't been breached in 50 years.
They marched through 22 different towns in southern Israel.
They pulled women out of their beds.
They raped them.
They took babies and killed them.
They took parents and separated them from their children.
They held children and made them watch as they slaughtered their parents.
They decapitated Israeli soldiers while they slept.
Things that To my knowledge, even ISIS hasn't perfected yet the cruelty that Hamas inflicted upon Israel and then, of course, with great glee and pride, videotaped it all and posted it on social media.
So, this is it, I guess, is my first point.
This is it.
We are no longer, you know, as you know, Hamas has erupted with rocket fire against Israel seven or eight times in the last two decades.
And Israel, I think, has tried to manage that conflict in a way where, you know, Hamas would be degraded temporarily.
And then, you know, two, three years later, Hamas would come back and this would start all over again.
I think no more.
I think your point at the beginning was exactly right.
This is time for Israel not to manage a conflict, but to win the war.
And they will win this war.
And they will win it, unfortunately, at a great price to the Israeli military, because
it's not going to be an easy battle.
This territory in the Gaza Strip is full of booby traps and full of ambushes.
And I pray for every single one of the brave soldiers who are there now and coming in later.
And I also worry about somewhere between 100 and 200 hostages who were taken by Hamas.
Let me tell you about the hostages.
The hostages include an 80-year-old woman who was a Holocaust survivor who was pulled
out of her bed, thrown into a jeep, driven back across the Gaza Strip.
She now has to relive the event that she thought that she would never face again.
Americans are being held hostage.
There was a festival in a town called Ofakim in the southern part of Israel.
A thousand kids, teenagers and young adults, observing a music festival.
They were the first ones that these terrorists found.
260 of them were slaughtered.
A large number of them were pulled into jeeps and taken hostage.
The abuse of women was rampant.
And then there were people who were just unaccounted for.
I've spoken to two sets of American parents whose children are unaccounted for.
They were last seen in Hamas jeeps being driven away.
The pain that they're encountering right now, the uncertainty, The distress is unimaginable, as their children are being held in God knows where, inside the Gaza Strip.
So, what this all comes down to, this is a battle, this is an existential battle of good versus evil.
It's a battle that we have to win.
It's a battle we have to win overwhelmingly and decisively.
And I think as you pointed out, it's a battle that, and it's something we never expected to face.
You know, we can attribute where we are today to many of the mistakes that were made over the last couple of years.
And I am, of course, frustrated and heartbroken that after the progress we've made in this area, we're back to this level.
I don't want to second-guess anything Israel is doing right now.
I just want to keep them in our prayers.
But do you have any comment or theory as to why it seems the attack was successful in its surprise element?
And why, for example, the United States with 17 intelligence agencies likewise didn't see it coming?
Because that's perhaps one of the most shocking aspects of this all.
Yeah, I mean, when you think about it, this fence Has not been breached in 50 years.
This was the wall that President Trump spoke to as proof that walls work, right?
That's how successful this barrier had been.
So, I don't know why.
There will obviously be a commission of inquiry afterwards.
There's many people, not just curious about what happened, but angry and frustrated and distraught about this.
So, it's not the time to do that post-mortem.
It'll happen and we'll find out and we'll find out, you know, what failings occurred in America as well.
But right now we have to, we just have to go forward and win this battle.
I mean, the one thing I will say about the lesson, the short-term lesson that I would take from this,
and it's not too late to, I hope it's not too late for this lesson
to be internalized in America, is, you know, in Israel, you have, you know,
you've got PhDs in physics galore.
You've got geniuses who have figured out how to intercept a rocket, you know,
going a thousand miles an hour.
You've got geniuses and the technology is extraordinary.
And that's important.
I mean, it's obviously an important part of self-defense.
I hope that they have not, and we have not, lost sight of, you know, the basic blocking and tackling
that goes into securing a country.
And the basic idea that we are facing true evil.
You can't think too much about it.
You can't get too complicated.
This is rank evil.
We are talking to the author of Sledgehammer.
Our former ambassador to Israel, Ambassador David Friedman.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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And what we said is we want to depressurize, de-escalate, and ultimately integrate the Middle East region.
The war in Yemen is in.
It's 19 months of truce.
For now, the Iranian attacks against U.S.
forces have stopped.
Our presence in Iraq is stable.
I emphasize for now because all of that can change.
And the Middle East region is quieter today than it has been in two decades.
The Middle East is quieter today than it has been in 20 years.
That was Biden's National Security Advisor, Jake Sullivan, recently talking at an Atlantic event.
I will get my friend, our former ambassador to Israel in the Trump administration, to react.
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He wrote the book Sledgehammer How breaking with the past brought peace to the Middle East, and it did under the Trump administration.
Ambassador Friedman, you did something that we had been told by the Beltway Bandits, the permanent deep state bureaucracy, was impossible.
The Trump team brought peace with numerous nations of the region.
Would you put Well, you know, I think even Jake Sullivan now would admit that the Middle East is not quieter than it's been in 20 years.
It was quieter than it had been in 20 years when we left office, and it's for a number of reasons.
The first, maximum pressure and sanctions on Iran to the point Of the United States killing the single individual most responsible for Iran's state sponsorship of terrorism, Qasem Soleimani, put Iran back on its heels in a way they haven't been in decades.
That was President Trump's decision.
Very courageous and very helpful and very productive in terms of bringing peace to the region.
cutting off funding to the Palestinian Authority, which uses that money to pay and incentivize
terrorists.
Just cut it off completely, but down to zero.
We cut off the funding of UNRWA, United Nations Relief Works Agency, which puts on—enables
schoolchildren to put on plays where half the third-grade class dresses up as terrorists
and half the third-grade class dresses up as Jews, and the terrorists kill the Jews,
the Jews fall down, the parents applaud.
We were funding that.
No more.
So we were cutting off the lifeline.
That funded most malign activity, most terrorist activities.
What's happened since we left office?
Palestinians are fully funded.
They're giving that money to Hamas.
UNRWA is fully funded.
Money is leaking out to Hamas.
And mostly, Iran is now a much, much, much richer country.
Look at the number of barrels of oil per day they're selling today compared to when we left office.
It's a massive, massive multiple of where we were.
And what is Iran doing with that money?
They funded this attack, this attack on Jewish civilians of the type not seen since the Holocaust.
This is—and just understand, you know, the juxtaposition of timing here is very important, and I think The Wall Street Journal had a good piece on this yesterday.
At the very time, at the very same time, When the United States is negotiating a prisoner swap with Iran, five for five, except that the United States sweetened their end of it with $6 billion of cash.
At the same time, they're making that dumb deal.
Iran is working with Hamas to annihilate the Jewish people of Israel.
That's happening at the same time.
And you know what?
That $6 billion is still stuck in Qatar.
We ought to get it back.
We should.
This is breaking news.
I can't believe this.
I'm just scrolling on social media while we're trying to keep up with the breaking news.
The White House has called a lid On today's press conferences and they did that before noon.
So we are on the brink of World War 3 in the Middle East and I guess the current president is too tired to hold a press conference.
I sent this photograph to my colleague John.
We're just going to put it in on the screen to put everything in perspective.
This is Itay and Hadass Berdynchevsky, both 30 years old.
This man and woman shielded their 10-month-old twins in a shelter as terrorists invaded their home in Kfar Gaza, a kibbutz in southern Israel.
Despite their efforts, they are both dead.
The whereabouts of their children are unknown.
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that we didn't step back and say okay well maybe this thing just is not true
And then really take a hard look at stealing.
Crooked Joe Biden just agreed to pay a $6 billion ransom to the Iranian dictatorship in exchange for hostages.
This is yet another Biden surrender and a further blistering humiliation of the United States of America to the world stage.
But even worse, this decision will be extremely deadly.
Biden is giving $6 billion to the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism, just as when Obama sent the Iranian regime pallets of cash for hostages in the dark of night.
Remember?
Plain loads of cash.
Biden's ransom payment will be immediately used to... Okay, thanks.
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January 12, 1941, at dawn On March, 10, 1942, at 11 Am,
the White House was told that the President was going to be killed.
The White House is telling all its mouthpieces to tell us a false story.
But we know that the real truth is in the White House.
The real terrorist is the Israeli state that has been murdered!
That's a pro-Palestinian activist on the streets of New York saying the real state, the real terrorist is the state of Israel.
I'm just gonna play this video again.
This is what happened on Saturday.
This is a woman, bloodied, raped.
You can tell where she's bleeding that she was raped.
Being taken out of a vehicle by Palestinian terrorists.
And what are they shouting?
God is good.
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play cut. We got a lot of people angry yesterday. We're going to have a look at the video. We're
going to have a look at the video. We got a lot of people angry yesterday on a Twitter
space I was on.
Bye.
Tough.
I'm going to say it again.
There is no religion on this planet.
No religion!
Whose adherents shout God is good as they are mutilating, raping, assaulting and killing women.
There is no religion except the religion of Mohammed.
Yes.
Don't stop me saying it.
It's right there.
Jews don't do it.
Christians don't do it.
Zoroastrians don't do it.
Buddhists don't do it.
Only the adherents of one religion do it.
Question is, how many terrorists of that ilk burrowed their way into the migrant hordes that have crossed into America in the last two and a half years?
Do you recall 9-11 was less than 20 terrorists?
Do you understand you are on the front lines?
And it is up to you to defend your family.
Could you defend your family if armed men came to your home tonight as they did all over Israel on Saturday?
It's the only question that matters right now.
Let's go to your calls.
Mike, line two.
Hello, Dr. Gorka.
I attended the pro- We lost you.
We lost you there.
Stop moving if you're moving.
What did you attend, Mike?
Okay, can you hear me now?
Yes.
Good, good.
Okay, I attended the pro-Israel rally at the Welsher Federal Building in Westwood, just near UCLA yesterday.
And the problem is, it was all wonderful, waving of flags, Israeli and American flags, and shouting, Am Yisrael, you know, people of Israel live.
The problem is, nothing was done to register Republican voters there, nothing was done to get lists of volunteers to help get out the vote, etc.
When Democrats hold such rallies, they have people there registering their people to vote, they got people signing up as volunteers to get out the vote, We have to do far much more than show support for Israel and for humanity.
We've got to get out the word that this is directly a result of Joe Biden being in the White House as a result of Americans voting Democrat.
And we have to say that over and over and over again, constantly, to get people to understand that.
Now, some of the Jews there, some of my fellow Jews there, were actually getting upset when we were talking.
Some people like me were just saying, this is because of Joe Biden being in the White House.
This is because our fellow Jews are voting Democrat.
And some of them were getting upset and said, it's not a Republican or Democrat thing.
It is absolutely a Democrat thing.
The Democrats are destroying our country and Western civilization through Marxism and through their alliance with jihadism.
Which is they're both at war against a common enemy, Western civilization, and they are allied under the principle that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Yeah.
We have to do everything to take action, not just show support, but to move that into political organization.
The Communists, the Democrats in this country are much more organized than we are, and we need to fix that.
No, you're absolutely right.
I don't know when that protest was announced.
Maybe it was a very spontaneous one, but the idea that if you know patriots are coming together, whether it's pro-Israel, pro-life, I don't care, you need to be registering voters there.
I completely agree.
Thank you, Mike.
Let's go to Andrew in Sacramento.
Yes, this is Andrew Levy in Sacramento, California.
We have this guy named Democrat Socialist John Preston, Dean Preston, excuse me, in San Francisco supervisor of history.
He supported an organization, support Hamas.
He claims to be a Holocaust survivor.
How about that one?
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
I have the story.
I will be looking into it.
Let's go to Judy in Brooklyn.
Hi, Dr. G. First of all, God only wants human beings to be kind, to be good, not evil and murder.
And Allah, which is God, does not want to kill six-year-old little kids in front of their family or do all that stuff that they're doing.
That's not what God wants.
That's a lie.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Are you an expert on Islam, Judy?
No.
Well, then you shouldn't say stuff like that.
What do you mean?
Have you read the Quran?
No, I haven't read the Quran, no.
Well then you shouldn't be making statements about Allah like that.
Do you know what Muhammad did in Medina?
Do you know what he did?
He wiped out whole tribes of Jews.
Men, women and children.
Do you know that?
Dr. Gorka, can I?
I'll tell you about what I know about the Quran another time.
No, you can't come on this show and say stuff that's wrong.
I spent 20 years teaching this stuff.
I've actually read the Qur'an.
And you can't say, Allah doesn't want this, Allah doesn't want that, if you haven't read the Qur'an, my dear.
It's just wrong.
Oh, well, I'm trying to say, I'm trying to say that that's wrong, that whatever the Qur'an is saying over there is not correct, because God is God for everyone.
No, no, hang on, hang on.
Don't do this, okay?
Don't do this.
Don't do this.
Don't make, you know, there's one God, the God of the Abrahamic faiths.
It's wrong.
It's wrong.
There is the God of the Bible, the Old Testament and the New Testament.
Don't do this because we love you, Judy, but don't do this.
Don't come onto my territory and say stuff that's absolutely patently wrong.
Okay?
Don't do it.
Because you're not making things better.
We need truth now.
We don't need nice statements of people need to be nice.
We need to kill the bastards.
All of them.
Every single terrorist needs to be killed now.
Stay on the line.
I'll talk to you in the break.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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Hi, Dr. Gorka.
Hey.
As you know, I'm a former liberal from New York.
I left New York when I saw... Your connection is awful.
Are you mobile?
Are you walking around or moving your phone?
I'm standing still.
Alright.
Can you hear me?
Yeah.
Carry on.
What do you want to share with us?
I'm a former New York liberal, as you know.
And I left New York when Bloomberg was tearing that city apart.
But for the first time in my life, I'm ashamed to be a New Yorker.
I understand.
They held a Nazi gathering practically in Times Square.
It's not embarrassing, that is for me.
Yeah, I think we have the photograph, George.
It's on the front of the New York Post.
We have one of these pro-Palestinian protesters held up a phone with a swastika on the cover of, on the screen of his phone.
So these are pro-Nazi, pro-Palestinians, George.
Yes.
Yes.
And I just want to apologize to every person with you in your face.
We don't all feel that way.
It's terrible.
What a terrible thing.
I'm sorry, I can't keep it together, doctor.
It's okay, George.
It's okay, George.
Your honesty and your emotion is real.
And we appreciate it.
God bless you.
Hang in there, George.
We've got a minute left.
Let's squeeze in our good friend Brent, Los Angeles.
May you go from strength to strength, my dearest Gorka.
How are you so in control, my friend?
Your voice is rock solid.
I'm enraged, but I have to get the point across.
At the end of the Jewish holiday of Sukkot, which is meant to be the happiest day of the Jewish calendar, Hamas delivered Jew-killer Joes, well-funded, horrific, hope and change from hell.
Which Obama, Omar, Talib, Ayok, Presley, Carter, Clinton, and their God-hating, death-head Democrats have been demanding, desiring, and planning for years.
And America's righteous, courageous, and godly President Trump, and every God-loving Jew and Christian, every day, everywhere, sacrifice their lives to defeat.
And we still have enough righteous Republicans and repentant Democrats to divinely defeat the demonic Democrats' Iranian thermonuclear
final solution for incinerating 6 million more Jews in the land of Israel
that God gave 3,500 years ago to only the children of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
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Crooked Joe Biden just agreed to pay a $6 billion ransom to the Iranian dictatorship in exchange for hostages.
This is yet another Biden surrender and a further blistering humiliation of the United States of America to the world stage.
But even worse, this decision will be extremely deadly.
Biden is giving $6 billion to the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism, just as when Obama sent the Iranian regime pallets of cash for hostages in the dark of night.
Remember?
Plain loads of cash.
Biden's ransom payment will be immediately used to stoke violence, bloodshed, and mayhem throughout the Middle East and all around the world, costing countless innocent lives.
It's also guaranteed that the fanatical Iranian regime will use this money to advance their nuclear weapons program, putting Israel, the United States, and the entire world in very grave peril.
They're reportedly just weeks away from a nuclear bomb, something which would have never happened under the Trump administration.
Tragically, Biden's ransom payments also make it dramatically more likely that even more Americans will be held captive in the future because Biden has shown that he will pay gargantuan sums of money, meaning the kidnappers turn a massive profit.
They're making money hand over fist.
In other words, Biden has put a bounty on the head of every American citizen abroad.
Under my leadership, we brought home more than 50 hostages from all over the world, and we never paid ransom money to do it.
Not at all.
We did it with diplomacy and we did it through strength.
And we will do it again when we are re-elected as President of the United States.
Our country is failing.
We are a failing nation.
We will turn it around and we will make America great again.
That's what leadership looks like, dear friends.
It's incredible that it is denied today.
Simply the empirical facts of the four years under the Trump administration.
Not only was America safe, not only were you and your families safe, so was the world.
No new wars.
Russia didn't invade anybody.
The Taliban didn't take over Afghanistan.
China wasn't harassing our military aircraft and vessels.
And Israel, Wasn't suffering the greatest death toll since the Holocaust?
No, all of those things happened in the last two and a half years.
Two important things I want to share with you.
Greetings, welcome back to America First.
Number one, you're responsible for your family's safety.
I just posted a video on my Twitter feed of a Hamas terrorist going into a kibbutz where they slaughtered the residents, killed the dog.
You can see the dead dog outside the little home.
Then he walks around the kitchen, takes a swig of soda from the fridge of the people he just murdered.
Then he goes outside and he sets light to the house.
This isn't, you know, nuclear warfare.
This isn't Submersibles with cruise missiles.
It's not Blackhawks.
Yeah, they had those paragliders.
Big whoop, okay?
These are guys with guns.
Raping, pillaging, murdering.
It's not a very advanced threat.
It was big and it was coordinated, but it wasn't advanced.
So here's my question to you.
Could you stop that?
If a group of armed men came to your home, 8 million illegals have been allowed into America.
If just 1% of them are terrorists, that's a threat that makes 9-11 look small.
9-11 looks small. 9-11 was less than 20 terrorists.
What if it's 80,000 terrorists?
What if it's 800,000 terrorists?
Are you prepared?
Because this administration will not protect you.
This administration is in league with the people who funded Hamas.
Do you understand what that means?
It means you are on the front line.
I've redoubled my efforts.
I'm carrying a gun and I'm making sure my family is protected.
I have security systems in place and procedures.
Rendezvous plans.
Communications plans.
Do you?
The streets of New York have been taken over by the extremists.
Did you see the images?
The front page of the New York Post shows one of the pro-Palestinian protesters holding up the swastika.
We've been told white supremacy is the threat to America.
Well, how about Arab Nazis?
How about that?
Do you understand what jihadism is?
Do you understand the connective tissue between fascism and jihadism?
Are you prepared to protect your family?
If you're Hamas, if you're Hezbollah, if you're ISIS, if you're Al-Qaeda, of course you've exploited the open borders.
Of course you've secreted your agents into those streams of millions of illegals.
What are you going to do?
Call 9-11?
Call 9-1-1?
Or are you prepared to protect your family?
Nine Americans that we know of were murdered in Israel this weekend.
Who knows how many are amongst the hostages that were taken into the tunnels under Gaza?
It's your job.
It's your responsibility.
Wake up!
Okay, this one's personal.
.
I used to like this man, because he was decent to me.
But after what he just said about our four years in the White House, where he was Vice President, I'm done with Mike Pence.
This man had the gall, just the absolute absence of any morality to blame This weekend?
On President Trump?
And other conservatives?
Yeah, he went there.
Here's Mike Pence.
Cut 11.
You said that this is what happens when leaders in the Republican Party signal Americans retreat as leader of the free world.
Weakness arouses evil.
Are you talking about your former running mate?
Well, I am, but let me begin where we ought to start.
I mean, that disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan has emboldened the enemies of freedom around the world.
And now war is raging in Eastern Europe.
And President Joe Biden's kowtowing for the last two and a half years to the mullahs in Iran, lifting sanctions, begging them to get back in the Iran nuclear deal.
And then paying $6 billion in a ransom for hostages, I think set the conditions for this unprecedented terrorist attack by Hamas against Israel.
But I also believe this is what happens when we have leading voices like Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Ron DeSantis signaling retreat from America's role as leader of the free world.
What happened in Ukraine was an unprovoked invasion by Russia.
What happened this weekend was an unprovoked invasion by Hamas into Israel.
And I really believe now more than ever, both the debate within the Republican Party and the debate within America, is whether or not we're going to once again stand without apology as the leader of the free world, as the arsenal of democracy, President Trump retreated from the world?
You sad hack, Mike Pence.
Retreated from the world?
When he unleashed the special forces and special operators on ISIS that crushed it in a matter of months?
When he launched 52 cruise missiles on Bashar al-Assad's air force to stop them using chemical weapons against their own citizens, he retreated?
He retreated when he killed more than 300 Russian Wagner Group mercenaries in the Middle East who were destabilizing the region?
You're a lying bag of crap, Mike Pence.
How dare you?
You think that attack on the man who you were vice president for for four years?
It's gonna get you a bump in the polls?
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Beyond those nine and a deeply tragic number, are there reports of other Americans who are missing or perhaps being held hostage?
There are reports of Americans who are unaccounted for.
We continue to work to confirm that number and to try to locate those who are missing.
We don't have solid information about either the number or where they might be.
We'll continue to work through that with the government of Israel as they continue to take back towns in southern Israel that were attacked by Gaza.
You know, we don't live in Luxembourg.
This isn't Iceland.
This is America.
That's the State Department spokes pencil neck, Matt Miller.
He doesn't even know how many US hostages Hamas has in Israel.
They don't know!
They don't know!
It just absolutely boggles the mind.
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We'll get to your calls.
But now we have to talk to, wow, one of the best guests we could have today.
We'll be joined by Dr. Ben Carson in the third hour, Lee Zeldin from New York in a moment.
But first, let's talk to the man who, you know, was the deputy chief of it all, for all intelligence in America, former chief of staff in the Defense Department during the Trump administration, and a buddy of America First, Kash Patel.
Welcome back.
Seb, thanks so much for having me on.
So, where to begin?
So, we have $90 billion spent on intelligence in America.
It's 30 times the amount that Israel spends.
We spent 30 times the amount Israel spends.
Forget about Israel missing it.
How did 17 intelligence agencies miss this cash in America?
It's easy.
It's the basis of my op-ed that the mainstream media didn't want to put out that I just rolled out on Gateway Pundit last night.
It's not a just miss.
When you reprioritize the National Intelligence Priority Framework, the NIPIF, which you're very familiar with, and unlike in the Trump administration, when we put our manning machine and money against collecting terrorists, al-Qaeda, ISIS, Hamas, Iran, Afghanistan, the list goes on.
And what the Biden administration did was jettison the Trump prioritization and literally made
tier one top collection standpoints out of climate change.
I'm not making that up.
And I'm not blaming the men and women in the intelligence community,
but I'm blaming an intentional failure of the Biden administration.
This is how this intelligence gap occurred.
They created it because the DOD's first campaign plan under the Biden administration, which proves their reoriented NIPIF, Rack and Stack was a campaign plan on climate change.
That's how you miss it.
So what does this mean in terms of the so what question until we can get, God willing, if we do our part, President Trump back in the White House, you in the second Trump administration, the good guys at the tiller.
What does it mean?
We've had, what, at least 8 million illegals.
If we say 1% of them were from terrorist organizations.
What is America going to be like for the next 14-15 months, Cash?
It is going to be beyond a rough ride.
And just to go to your immigration standpoint, I think the southern border is directly connected to this monstrosity of intelligence failures.
We have now admitted from Mayorkas, the DHS secretary, that at least two dozen known terrorist affiliates passed through the southern border last year alone, and they can't find them.
That's the ones they're telling us about.
When 220,000 illegals cross each month, don't you think the CCP, the drug cartels, Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, and all the other America haters are stacking the decks down there to goose them into this country, and we can't find a single one of them?
I am terrified as to what could happen in this country because we have seen what happens when you take away America's national intelligence priorities and you make diversity, equity, inclusion, and white rage your priority.
Just a reminder to your audience, this intelligence gap, or whatever you want to call it, happened on Mark Milley's watch.
It happened while he was leaking to the media and planning his exit interview on 60 Minutes.
Maybe if you put half as much time as protecting American citizens as he did his name, then we wouldn't have, we don't even know the number, how many people killed over there, yellow hostages over there.
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Cash, what are your predictions?
I hope Israel goes big.
I hope they salt the earth.
What is Iran going to do?
You know this sector.
You've been read into all the sensitive stuff.
What are the worst and best case scenarios?
Here's the problem.
Not only did America miss it, whatever verbiage you want to use, so did the Israelis, and they're pretty darn good.
But Seb, here's the reality.
Iran, flush with six billion of cash from Joe Biden.
And their terrorist Quds Force and their terrorist IRGC, they are our number one enemy when it comes to terrorism.
And they are damn good at what they do.
And they have funneled and facilitated Hamas's war in Israel.
And so what are we going to do?
Go willy nilly into the breach?
Are we going to send SF guys over there without an intelligence collection platform on the ground with no humans?
Where are we going to send them?
We're going to open ourselves up to even more casualties.
Of course, I'm cheering for Israel and America.
This is such an incredible point and the article is at the Gateway Pundit.
It's how we missed World War 3.
baited into a situation to come in so far and heavy over the top that we will end up
in another Afghanistan and that will be the ultimate tragedy.
This is such a incredible point and the article is at the Gateway Pundit.
It's how we missed World War Three.
How did the Biden administration miss World War Three?
That if you've politicized intelligence, if you're hunting, you know, MAGA voters and
grandmas who walk through the velvet ropes and white supremacists, even if you want to
do something right and hunt down the bad guys, we don't have, we've been focusing on the
wrong thing, Cash.
Yeah, that's a months-long planning operation.
Yeah.
MAGA, America First Patriots, have the same label in the Biden administration as the Hamas terrorists that are blowing up Americans and Israelis.
They have labeled these individuals domestic terrorists within the United States.
That's the weaponization of intelligence.
And even if we wanted to unleash our awesome special forces units, what are we going to do?
Send them in and just say, please kill some of the bad guys somewhere?
What's his name?
John Kirby was just on the lawn of the White House saying, we don't know how many Americans were taken or how many Americans were killed.
Of course not.
This is the same administration that lost over a thousand American citizens in the Afghanistan withdrawal, not to mention murdered 13 of our own soldiers by letting terrorists out of prison.
That is the Biden administration response.
It's now up to 11 Americans dead in Israel.
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There's a long relationship between Iran and Hamas.
In fact, Hamas wouldn't be around in the way that it is without the support that it's received from Iran over the years.
In this specific instance, we have not yet seen evidence that Iran directed or was behind
this particular attack.
Is Lee Skype?
you His phone.
Okay.
I'm sorry, what cut?
I just want to cut six, right?
That's what we just played, right?
Can you play Cut 4 again?
And you have to understand, when we talk about Gaza in the West, for a lot of people, it's very easy to conflate Hamas, which is a militant group that carries out acts of vicious terror, as they did this weekend, with Gaza, which is a place that contains 2.2 million people.
Alex, half of them children.
Half of the 2.2 million people are children.
And it's one of the most densely populated places on planet Earth.
You've got 2.2 million people.
Crowded into 141 square miles.
So they automatically become the victims of Israeli airstrikes because it's so crowded, because it's so densely populated.
And it's basically like living, Alex, in an open-air prison.
Right, okay.
Come in with that.
Cut six.
Copy that, cut six.
Then we'll do LI, and then we'll go to the calls.
Oh, a title for cash.
Um...
How did Biden miss World War III?
Yeah.
I don't know.
There's a long relationship between Iran and Hamas.
In fact, Hamas wouldn't be around in the way that it is without the support that it's received from Iran over the years.
In this specific instance, we have not yet seen evidence that Iran directed or was behind this particular attack.
How is that person our chief diplomat?
That's Anthony Blinken.
He did a post last week of him playing the guitar in the State Department and how music is so good for global peace or something.
It's weird.
He now thinks that the proxies of Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah now suddenly aren't being funded by Iran and aren't being directed by Iran.
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waiting patiently in Arizona. Sandy. Hi, Dr. G. Thank you for taking my call, sir.
I want to just point out I'm an Assyrian Christian from my mother's side.
I was born and raised in Chicago.
My mother endured a lot of suffering in the Middle East.
They are the indigenous people of Mesopotamia.
I wanted to tell my Israeli brothers and sisters, We know their plight.
We understand them.
And I want to remind and tell people who don't have a knowledge of history just how far these people who are Nazis, they go back all the way to the time of Hitler with the Mutsi and the Fuhrer, if you don't mind.
So for those who don't know much about history, they need to read up on how Hitler wanted to extend the Holocaust all the way through the Middle East and exterminate uh... not only the jews but
he could refer to the arab at his arian brothers and sisters unquote
these are people that that means that the definition of what hitler viewed
as arian what he had only it wasn't uptack
of course and that is the there was even a muslim brigade of the uh... third
right army in bosnia exactly sir
That's exactly right.
And let me point out, the civil war in Lebanon.
Two civil wars.
They would pull Christians out of cars.
They would check your license, your driver's license.
If your name was a Western name, a Christian name, they would shoot you on the spot.
Okay?
This is the PLO I'm talking about, sir.
Okay?
And I just wanted, you know, these people, I don't understand how they don't have a, they don't understand the knowledge, the history of those regions.
Well, most people have no idea that that whole region, North Africa, for example, was all Christian.
It was all Christian.
The first church fathers traveled that area, so Israel's been there for thousands of years, but the Muslim nations came after the Christians had already settled there.
So, Sandy, thank you for the historic wake-up call.
Stay on the line.
Let's give Sandy a signed copy of Defeating Jihad.
Let's go to Randy in Knoxville.
Hey, good afternoon, Dr. Gorka.
Hey.
Ever since I was, when I was 15 years old, that's the Iranian revolution.
I'll be 60 years old in June next year, Dr. Gorka.
We've put up with these guys, this money backers of this horror that's gone on so long.
My entire adult life.
I'm sick of it.
They say that Tehran, if you're going to nuke a city, that place is strategically set to take it out.
I'll tell you, after what they've done and what we've put up with for 50 years almost, Yeah.
I want to know what you think, Dr. Gorka, and I don't say it lightly, man, the horror.
I would nuke Iran and say, what y'all going to do about it?
To Putin and Xi and say, now what do you think about it?
You know, those guys need to be stopped.
This horror.
No, your point is so well taken that we've been having to deal with this since the Shah
of Iran was deposed in 1979.
I think it's been long enough.
I think something has to be done.
And the good thing here is that, my friend, Israel will do what has to be done.
At the end of the day, Israel knows what has to be done.
Thank you, my friend.
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We believe the borders should remain open.
That's the official position of this city, but we have made it clear there should be a decompression strategy that we could properly deal with the volumes that's coming into our city and no cities should have to carry the burden of a national, of the national government.
Well, that's interesting.
Eric Adams, mayor of New York.
The borders should stay open.
I thought the borders were... Hey, Jeff, I thought the borders weren't open.
Isn't that what the White House tells us every day?
Yeah, they always say they're closed.
So how can the mayor of New York say they should stay open?
He must have just misspoken.
Oh, thank you, thank you.
But they need a decompression strategy, because what, New York doesn't like immigrants?
Are you a racist, Eric Adams?
Let's talk to a man who we miss dearly here in Washington, D.C., because he's one of the true freedom fighters, a man I was honored to campaign for, should have been the governor of New York, but he's still fighting for America.
He served in uniform.
I think he's still in the reserves for military intelligence, so we might have to be sensitive about the questions we ask him.
It's been far too long.
Welcome back to America First, Lee Zeldin.
It's always great to be with you, Seb, and the answer is That the Democrats can say that the borders are open or closed depending on whatever is most convenient for the narrative that day.
I gotta ask you, does it mean anything that Eric Adams now is complaining about immigrants or is it just like, what does that mean?
Well listen, I actually think that it's a fantastic development whenever we can see Any mayor or governor of any of these blue cities or blue states put pressure on the Biden administration.
You know, when, I mean, let's see, take like Eric Adams made a lot of news a few weeks ago.
He said that what's happening with the migrant crisis is destroying, is going to destroy your city.
Hey, that's fantastic.
But in the same speech, he said the cause of why it's happening is because of the MAGA Republicans, which is the opposite of Fantastic.
When Pritzker sent his letter a week, week and a half ago to the White House, if you read the letter, buried right in the middle of it, he's calling on the administration to put somebody in charge of controlling the border.
What a shot at Biden, at Kamala Harris, who's supposed to be who the borders are, Mayorkas, Who's supposed to be the Secretary of Homeland Security, when a Democrat governor or a Democrat mayor is starting to engage in some of this pressure, even if, listen, there's plenty to criticize of Pritzker and Adams and Hochul and more, but I think that we're moving in the right direction because ultimately, you know, what Seb and Lee care most about is that we actually secure our country, that we're holding these folks accountable and that we're making our nation safe.
So listen, it's baby steps, it's not good enough, but it's a heck of a lot better than where we were a month ago.
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As a military intelligence professional, as a veteran, I've got to ask you about the events of the last three days in the Middle East.
We'll find out eventually, maybe in a year or two, why Israel missed it.
But we spend billions of dollars on intelligence.
We have 17 intelligence agencies.
How did America not see this attack, the biggest since the Holocaust, coming?
Okay, so what we have to do here is, unfortunately, we're forced to speculate in this conversation, because it's only been a couple days, and that's what I'm about to do.
I think that between Israeli intelligence, U.S.
intelligence, British intelligence, and or some other allied intelligence, that they did pick up signs.
That there were warnings.
That there were red flags.
That there were conversations that had taken place of concern.
Listen, we don't know yet.
We're forced to speculate.
But I find it incredibly difficult to believe that there were no signs, there were no warnings.
There's got to be some type of intelligence expert somewhere in this massive, talented apparatus, globally, where they go to a supervisor and they say, look at what I just found.
What do you think that this means?
Or, sir, ma'am, this is what I think this means.
I think that we'll find out that there were people who were in some type of a leadership structure, in some type of a chain of command, where there was some type of a decision made not to act on what was known.
I find it Impossible!
That this would get carried out without there being any red flags or warnings.
No, I think you're absolutely right.
It's not a question of not catching it, it's a question of leadership not actually acting on information.
The idea that, you know, hundreds and thousands of terrorists are on the move and there was no signal is absolutely unbelievable.
Former Congressman from New York, Lee Zeldin, I have to ask you about these images from the streets of New York today and yesterday.
We have, it looks like Gaza, it looks like the West Bank.
We have hundreds, thousands of people holding a sign that says, Globalize the Intifada.
We have the, the, it's just, it looks like the West Bank to me.
And then we have the cover of the New York Post with a photograph that's gone viral with one of the female Arabs holding up a phone with the swastika.
How is this happening in America?
Lee?
And unfortunately this is happening all over the globe.
It's happening in the United States of America.
It's happening in London.
It's happening in Australia.
There are pro-Hamas demonstrators who are out there deciding to take to the streets when they see Hamas terrorists raping and kidnapping and executing.
They have a trigger that goes off on them where they're like, you know what this means?
I need to take to the streets where I live, and I need to put on a black mask, and I need to go chant chants that are about wiping Israel off of the map.
This exists right here in our own country.
We were just talking about the border a minute ago, and while there might be some baby steps of some Democratic elected officials, which is certainly not enough, We can talk about the threat of what it means when you have a border where you don't know everyone who's coming inside of the country, but you just have to turn on your TV screens, look at social media, you'll see these folks are here already, and you can't convince me that all of these pro-Hamas
Protesters on the street wearing their ski masks and talking and chanting about how we need to wipe Israel off the map.
You can't convince me that these are all just, you know, peaceful, freedom-loving, you know, this First Amendment protests that are going on.
We need to be on guard.
And maybe the Department of Justice and FBI, instead of going after parents at school board meetings And not having enough bandwidth or prioritizing of the pro-life pregnancy centers that are under attack, instead of going after tens of millions of Trump supporters that they have to be somehow tied in a way to domestic terrorism and Nazism, they should have priority to go after them.
How about this crazy idea, it's not white supremacism that's the threat to America, it's the likes of those protesters on the streets of New York.
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Did the intelligence agencies really miss the invasion?
Got it.
Play me cut seven again.
Iran is behind this.
They scored a strategic victory here.
What is that victory?
The normalization of relations between Saudi Arabia and Israel is on hold.
That is for sure.
I don't think it'll go away, but it's obviously going to be delayed rather significantly as a result of this.
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What was happening in the White House when World War III was starting in the Middle East?
Joe Biden was at a barbecue yesterday, and this is what they posted this morning.
These are the priorities as the world is ignited from the Biden administration.
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My cousin was shot and killed by someone who never should have had a gun, whose own family didn't want him to have a gun.
I thought about these gaps.
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I thought about these lives.
My name is Rob Wilcox and I'm the Deputy Director of the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention.
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Hey Jeff, I've got an idea.
You know that this thing broke out in the Middle East?
Yep.
Why don't we send that pudgy-faced man in his cheap suit, why don't we send Rob Wilcox with his gun control message to the Gaza Strip?
I would like to see that.
And just for the people that aren't watching on Rumble, the guy looks exactly like what you would think that person would be.
That would head up that office.
Yeah, exactly.
If it were a skit, right, if that was a conservative skit about what person would be the head of gun control for the Biden administration, that's the kind of person you'd choose, right?
Exactly.
If there was like a right-wing Saturday Night Live mocking it, you would come up with that guy.
What a great idea, a right-wing Saturday Night Live.
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I would rather have you in the White House than our bumbler-in-chief who has a cookout on the back lawn of the White House or whatever and ignores the crisis in Israel.
Yeah, he had a barbecue with dance music in the White House garden yesterday.
Exactly.
So I'm so sick of it.
I mean, it's really bad.
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to offend people.
They walk around with their feelings exposed, waiting for you to say something.
And political correctness, as far as I'm concerned, is an attack on freedom of speech.
And we really shouldn't tolerate it, quite frankly.
And now it's morphed into wokeness.
And that is perhaps one of the biggest threats in our country.
Wokeness, one of the biggest threats to our country.
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At the age of 33, he became the youngest chief of pediatric neurosurgery in the United States, where he successfully Executed the operation to separate conjoined twins, which garnered him significant fame, so much so that he eventually rose to not only be a recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom award, but also a member of the Trump cabinet.
Former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, we are honored to have you on the show today.
Dr. Ben Carson, welcome to America First.
Thank you, sir.
Good to be with you.
We have so much to discuss in the next hour about the threat to the fabric of the nation,
what wokeness means in practice, the assault on classical concepts of masculinity,
even the basic concepts of what is a man and what is a woman.
But first, as a former member of the Trump cabinet, I have to ask you your reaction to the
sordid and tragic events we have witnessed in just the last 72 hours in the Middle East.
Well, certainly, you know, my heart and prayers go out for those people who've been
severely affected by the terrorism that has gone on in Israel.
Yeah.
And, you know, it's not terribly surprising that terrorist activities are increasing, because the current administration does not seem to be very forceful or very forward-thinking.
I'm thinking this is probably just the beginning of some of the horrors that we're going to experience because, you know, we have been very lax at our southern border.
And I'm sure there are lots of people coming through that border who have very bad intentions for our country.
If there weren't, that would be malpractice on behalf of terrorists.
I mean, they have an open border and not take advantage of it.
So I'm sure that they're going to be doing some pretty awful things to us, too.
They may be coming right on the heels of this to divert our attention away from Israel.
If you think of the fact that 9-11 was executed by less than 20 terrorists, and we know that at least 50 on the terror watch list were identified in just the last few weeks crossing the southern border, and an estimated 6 to 8 million illegals have crossed the border.
Someone's saying today, Dr. Carlson, that an attack of this ilk is not a question of if in America, it's a question of when.
I think that's exactly right.
And if we were smart, we would be looking at all the possibilities and have contingencies going on.
You know, why wouldn't they target the 13 or 15 critical substations, electric substations, that the others tie into and, you know, do some major damage to our electric grid?
You know, just as one example, I mean, there's a gazillion different examples of things that they could be doing, and they're going to do them.
We better get ready.
I don't want to tee up a question, but I just remember that a few years ago we were told that my boss, your boss, was going to start World War III.
And we look back at the four years of President Trump, no new wars, the border secured, ISIS crushed.
How can any sane person not understand that what we are witnessing, whether it's in Ukraine, whether it's in the Middle East, whether it's in the seas around Taiwan, is a function of not having American leadership.
And I don't mean neoconservative, let's invade the world leadership, but just, you know, peace through strength.
Shouldn't this be obvious to all Americans now that what has occurred in the last two and a half years is a function of who's in the White House?
It should be obvious to anyone at this point.
Sometimes it has to be pretty dark before some people can see the light.
I think we're getting there and I'm hopeful that Even a lot of people on the other side of the aisle are starting to recognize that the leadership that we have is leading us to no good place.
And another couple of years of this, the whole world will be embroiled in some type of conflict.
You know, China's becoming emboldened.
There's no reason that they shouldn't carry out their plans toward Taiwan after watching how we react to other things.
So it's a very Very treacherous time for our country right now with the kind of leadership that we have.
You in that speech at Turning Point USA, you talked about political correctness as one of the greatest threats to the nation today.
Political correctness seems like a nice phrase.
You want to be correct, don't you?
But I see it simply as a form of censorship and an attempt at thought control, if not simply speech control.
Do you agree?
That's exactly what it is.
And, you know, this is not the first time it's occurred.
It's occurred in other countries at other times.
And one of the things that you have to do in order to impose it is you have to dumb down the population.
You have to get people to stop thinking for themselves and to simply accept what you tell them.
And then you can say things like, our southern border is completely under control.
And, you know, the world is going to be dissolved in about 10 years because of climate change.
You need to have people in a state of mind where they just say, Oh, okay, that's what the authorities said.
Okay, that's what we'll do.
And teaching children that they have to sort of monitor everything that they say, because they might offend somebody.
Rather than teaching them to think about what works for them and for the people around them is a problem.
And we weren't like that for a very long period of time.
And I think that's one of the reasons that we were so innovative, so entrepreneurial.
That's why the vast majority of inventions came out of this country, because we were free thinkers.
But if you get everybody to have to think the same way, that's certainly not going to happen.
And we're going to decline, and you can see the decline going on right now.
Yeah, and also the double standards of, you know, they deem conservatives to be intolerant.
We look at the streets of New York today.
Let's just put these pictures up.
You think that this is Gaza or the West Bank.
This is the New York pro-Palestinian demonstration today.
So when this is happening in one of our greatest cities, how worried are you for the future of the republic?
Well, you know, unfortunately, you know, we have gotten to the place where we want to ensure everybody's rights to the point that we've become foolish.
Yeah.
It's sort of like if you were a parent of a child and you say, well, you know, the child's rights are very important.
We need to make sure that they get what they want.
So they want to eat candy all day long.
That's okay.
I mean, we shouldn't impede them.
There comes a time when you have to open your eyes and react to the things that are going on around you.
And what the terrorists are doing and the people that they are employing to do that, Hamas and all of these people, they are terrorists.
That's what we need to understand.
This has nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats.
It has to do with people who are out to destroy us and to destroy our society, to destroy our future for our children and our grandchildren.
And that's the reason that you resist such things.
And you may do it on the battlefield, you may do it economically.
You certainly don't go handing them $6 billion and, you know, giving the Palestinians, you know, over $300 million and thinking that that's not going to fall into the hands of those whose desire is to destroy us.
At some point, you're going to use a little bit of common sense.
Yeah.
Where is common sense?
How common is it today or how rare is it?
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Dr. Carson, when you look at what America has gone through and where we are today,
and just whether it's the transgender athletes, whether it's hospitals like Boston's Children Hospital,
performing transition surgeries on healthy children, children. How...
How serious is the assault on what we deemed to be the undeniable realities of manhood and womanhood?
How bad is the ideological assault today?
Has it ever been this out of control?
No, it's not been like this.
No, we've done well as a nation for a long period of time.
When Ben Franklin came out of the Constitution Hall in 1787, And he was asked, what do we have here, sir?
A monarchy or a republic?
He said, a republic, if you can keep it.
We've kept it for over 240 years.
We're as close to losing it now as we have ever been.
And a lot of it has to do with our social infrastructure.
If you don't have strong families, then you don't have strong communities.
And if you don't have strong communities, you don't have a strong nation.
And we're letting all that fall by the wayside.
Community used to be one of the strongest things about America.
We took care of each other, even people who came from different areas.
In the early days, there'd be a hundred families.
They're from different parts of the world.
They could barely speak to each other, but they understood the concept of the common good and how to amalgamate your skills and talents together in order to create strength.
If it was harvest time and Mr. Smith fell out of the tree and broke his leg, everybody harvested his crops.
They didn't say, what's your religion?
What's your political affiliation?
It didn't matter.
They took care of each other.
And United States of America, united, that was the key.
Divided is what we're becoming now.
They're driving wedges between people on the basis of race, income, Age, gender, religion, political affiliation, you name it.
Everybody's your enemy.
The neighbor who's been there for 20 years all of a sudden is your enemy because he has a different yard sign.
You know, we're allowing ourselves to be manipulated.
And if you go and you look at the congressional record for January the 10th, 1963, read into the congressional record by one of the congressmen were the 45 goals of the communists for this country.
And you see that they've accomplished a very large number of them.
We think we won the Cold War.
We did not win the Cold War.
That's the reason that Khrushchev was so confident when he talked to Eisenhower that Eisenhower's grandchildren's children would live under communism.
Right.
But we're in a peculiar situation, Dr. Carson, that it wasn't Khrushchev, it wasn't Brezhnev, it wasn't Chernenko that achieved this.
It's actually being implemented by Americans on U.S.
soil.
It wasn't the KGB, it wasn't the NKVD, it's the likes of Bernadine Dawn, Bill Ayers, BLM, Antifa.
So let me ask you, if you...
When you look at the drivers of this assault on our community, on our values, on concepts such as manhood, where is the center of gravity?
Is it the education system?
Is it the media?
Is it the think tanks?
Or is it because churches haven't stood up to this insanity?
Where is the hub of this assault being generated out of?
I think many of the people that you just mentioned are what are referred to by the Marxists as useful idiots.
They don't understand that they're actually destroying their own selves.
And they're just laser focused on one thing and they can't understand the implications of what they're doing.
That's very unfortunate.
But what's happened to our country?
We've lost our central Stability, because we've thrown away our identity.
Your history gives you your identity, and your identity gives you your belief system.
That's why ISIS, when they come in and they conquer a place, what do they do?
They get rid of the history.
And then you have a blank slate, and you can impose upon them your own slate of history.
That's what they're trying to do to our country.
And we're falling for it, hook, line, and sinker.
But I think a lot of the American people actually do have common sense.
And what is lacking is courage.
Courage is so vitally important.
When Alexis de Tocqueville came here in 1831 and studied our whole system, at the end he said the thing that impressed him the most were the sermons that came out of the pulpits of America.
that encouraged a bunch of ragtag militiamen to be able to defeat the most powerful military empire on earth.
They gave the people a sense of morality, a sense of right and wrong.
You know, it was that sense of right and wrong that I think inspired the abolitionists to do what they did to get rid of slavery in our country.
And our country actually has an illustrious history.
But there are those on the left who want to teach their children something else.
Instead of looking at our whole history, the good, the bad, and the ugly, they handpick the ugly parts and try to build everything around that, when in fact, we have a glorious history.
Have we been perfect?
Absolutely not.
Have we made some horrendous mistakes?
We have.
But have we learned from them?
That's the important thing, and that's what leadership is all about.
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Dr. Carson, during the manhood hour, my favorite question is to ask our guests, I know you grew up in poverty.
I think you had a single mother as your mother.
So this is going to be a very interesting question.
Who made you understand the values Of manhood, of what it means to be a responsible grown-up man.
Was it the books?
I think she was a literate, but she made sure that you were reading.
Was it the examples in literature?
Was it an uncle, a grandfather, a coach?
Who influenced your understanding of what it means to be a man?
Well, believe it or not, it was my mother.
She got married at age 13.
Years later discovered that my father was a bigamist.
She had less than a third grade education.
But she was a person who never made excuses for herself.
And she never accepted excuses from us.
And she was always pointing out people to my brother and myself.
That's the kind of man that you want to be.
That's not the kind of man that you want to be.
That was every day we heard that.
So was it people in your community?
Was it people in the church?
Who was she pointing at?
I'm curious.
There were people in the community, some who were actually decent people, and there are others who sort of sat on the curb with a paper bag.
You know, drinking from it like that's supposed to like you're not supposed to know what it is.
But otherwise, she would see people particularly at church or who own the business or maybe the doctor and would talk about some of the good things about them.
And eventually it was watching the people in the homes that she taught her how to become successful.
And she imposed that on us.
And we didn't like it very much, to be honest with you.
Was she a strict mother?
Oh, very strict.
You never got away with anything with her.
But we loved my mother because we knew everything she was doing, she was doing for us.
And her friends would criticize her and say that you can't make boys stay in the hospital, in the house reading books.
They'll grow up and they'll hate you.
But I think she got the last laugh because one son became a brain surgeon and the other became a rocket scientist.
Literally, your brother is a rocket scientist?
Yes, absolutely.
Wow.
And would you, if she didn't do it, would you put in words the characteristics of the men that she pointed out to you and said, that son, that's the kind of man you need to be?
What kind of adjectives would describe those men?
Kind.
Very caring.
Responsible.
Making sure that they protected their families and provided for their family.
And provided, make sure that they provide it for their wives.
Take very good care of their wives.
That really made an impression on me.
And as my kids were growing up, I want them to see how to treat a wife.
And all three of my sons got married in 2011.
Happily married, with children, and I think a lot of that has to do with the modeling that you do for them.
Because the nuclear family is falling apart, what are the implications for that?
We're not passing values along to the children.
There are a lot more just single moms who think nothing of it, who don't think that Having the presence of the Father is very important, but a lot of that stems from the fact that they never saw it modeled the way that it's supposed to be.
Instead, they see some of the stuff that you see on television, which is ridiculous.
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Dr. Carson, as you could attest, if anybody asks you afterwards, we don't clear our questions with anybody, not even when President Trump comes on the show.
We don't rehearse them.
We just, you know, we have a discussion.
And I'm going to ask you something a little bit personal now, and I hope you'll indulge me.
You served at the highest level of the Trump administration.
I was a deputy to the same man you served.
I'd like to ask your explication or your reaction to what we've witnessed in the last two and a half years because in my living room at home there's a big piece of vellum with my name in old italicized writing in cursive and the signature of the president and it's my political commissioning document making me a strategist to the president and I take that piece of vellum very seriously.
And I see other people who served with us, even who served at your rank in the cabinet, who have left that administration and who, um, well, this is the manhood hour.
Individuals who have not behaved as honorable men, whether it's clowns like Scaramucci or people in uniform like the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Mark Milley.
Individuals who lambast this individual today, uh, Well, I think it's pretty easy to explain.
him, who were fine to take the king's shilling and work for him, didn't resign in protest
by what they thought of him then, and now seem to have problems with him.
Would you talk to us about this phenomena in Washington, D.C., of we seem to have a
lot of dishonorable men?
Well, I think it's pretty easy to explain.
If in fact you come out as anti-Trump, then you get kudos and you get praise.
And if you come out as pro-Trump, the opposite occurs.
So you have to have real conviction in order to do that.
And it's sad, but that's the way it is.
You know, the fact of the matter is, when you look at the accomplishments of that administration, they are mind-boggling, particularly compared to what's going on these days.
And I think people just have to also recognize that if, in fact, we allow the left to do what they're trying to do, to take their political enemy and not only disempower him but actually punish him by putting him in jail, then we will have become something other than the kind of nation that we've been in the past.
Yeah.
Well, you are one of the few honorable men in Washington, D.C., and it is proven by the fact that you haven't sold yourself out for the adulation of the mainstream media and the deep state, and I want to salute you here on America First in front of millions of people for having done that.
Would you talk to us about Whether the stranglehold of the Democrat Party on the black vote could be crumbling.
And I don't mean because of simple explanations, because of the, you know, the booking photograph, the mugshot from Atlanta.
But it does seem as if things are trending in the right direction.
For 60, 70 years, the black community has voted almost exclusively Democrat.
Do you think they're finally waking from that torpor and could be realizing that they actually
have been on a plantation, but it was a Democrat-run political plantation?
I believe there's significant awakening occurring, particularly among black males.
And you know, they're seeing that the policies of the Democratic Party, quite frankly, are
not conducive to success for them.
And that's the good thing.
But interestingly, during Trump's administration, there were a couple of times when we had hundreds, literally hundreds of young blacks at the White House, very enthusiastic about the president.
Would the mainstream media show any of that?
Of course not.
What is it like to be, let me read what does it say, your Wikipedia entry calls you one of the most famous black conservatives.
Here we go.
Carson is one of the most prominent black conservatives in America.
Is it hard to be a black conservative?
Because I look at what they're doing to Justice Clance Thomas.
Do you revel in the assaults or is it hard?
No, it's not easy.
There's no question about that.
You know, for the left, the only thing worse than Satan is a black conservative.
They just don't like that idea because you're not supposed to think for yourself.
And you're certainly not supposed to dispel the myth about this being a systemically racist country.
But, you know, as I was growing up as a kid, you know, we never bought into that stuff.
You know, were there people who were racist?
Of course there were.
Are there people who are racist?
Of course there are.
Is Satan alive and well?
Yes, he is.
So, you know, I don't worry about that.
It didn't impact my ability to achieve.
And that's what people need to understand.
And you also have to understand that there has been enormous change in this country.
In my lifetime as a six-year-old, I remember going to Chattanooga, Tennessee, and seeing the Whites Only and Coloreds Only signs.
In the same lifetime.
What do you see now?
Black admirals and generals and CEOs of Fortune 500 companies and heads of foundations and university presidents.
We've had a black president of the United States.
Come on!
To say that things haven't changed dramatically in a short period of time is ridiculous.
Have we reached nirvana?
No, we have not.
Are we making good progress?
Yes, we are.
And we need to concentrate on our victories and why they were victories and enhance those.
And as a man of faith, I know that you understand Nirvana is not possible here on Earth.
There's only one place there is paradise, and that is in the afterlife.
We're talking to the former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development in the Trump administration, Dr. Ben Carson.
His website is AmericanCornerstone.org, and you can follow him on social media, at A Real Ben Carson.
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We're talking to one of his former cabinet members, Dr. Ben Carson.
Dr. Carson, a wise man once said that a society of civilization will, in the final analysis, be measured by how it treats the most vulnerable, especially the unborn and the aged.
We have a lot to answer for.
We have a great victory with the striking down of Roe v. Wade.
But as a doctor, I have to ask you one question that constantly irks me and troubles me.
We know that thousands of children have been quote-unquote medically transitioned, surgically as well.
And as a surgeon of world renown, can you explain to me how a doctor who's gone through 10 years of training and medical practice could even countenance removing the healthy sexual organs of a 14-year-old girl or boy?
How does that happen in America?
Doctors are influenced by peer pressure just like everybody else.
And I've been, frankly, a little disappointed with how some of them have utilized their knowledge in a very negative way.
You know, doctors know that a child's brain develops very, very prolifically.
Hundreds of thousands, millions of neurons every day in the womb, but it continues even after birth.
And the brain develops well into your 20s.
That's when you have maturation.
You're not capable of making the most sophisticated decisions until your brain is mature.
And certainly, when you're in middle school or grade school, you're nowhere close to that.
And that's why God gave you parents.
to protect you from predatory people who will take advantage of an immature brain.
We're seeing that occurring in our society, and many people do nothing about it.
What a perfect way of putting it.
That's why God gave you parents, to protect you whilst you are vulnerable.
Of course, he had an answer to the question.
That's why he's Dr. Ben Carson.
His website, his organization, please check it out right now and support it at AmericanCornerstone.org.
That's AmericanCornerstone.org.
He's a champion for truth.
and a champion for the unborn follow him at real ben carson god bless you sir god bless you candy as well have a safe safe trip home this has been the manhood hour with me sebastian gorka make sure you never miss an episode subscribe to the podcast wherever you get your podcasters put in my name sebastian gorka leave us a five-star review and share the links with your friends wherever you are whatever you're doing keep your head on the swivel watch your six hold the line never give up never give in
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