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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Hillary Clinton wants to "deprogram" Trump voters

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	This store is being robbed in real time.
	I've been watching it since we've been out here, and one guy even told me that he doesn't call it CVS, he calls it Free VS. Also, you may be asking, well, what about security?
	They have an armed guard right through the main door, but one employee told me he's not really empowered to do anything, so the guard is almost just there, waiting and watching as this is happening.
	And Brett, there is a whole other element to this, because when there is widespread theft like this, It's consumers like the rest of us who have to pay more as retailers try to make up for that lost income.
	Brett?
	You know, Mark, we saw the local affiliate Fox 5 and some of the video originally in this story, but you've been there.
	I mean, it's worse than we thought.
	I'm a DC resident, and I'm so outraged, and I can't believe this is just happening.
	I haven't seen a cop out here, so we've been out here two hours, and they, just on the other side of the street, people have little tents set up, where they're selling that, you know, head and shoulders dandruff, the dish soap, stuff that people are stealing from here, and then just go sell it right across the street.
	I know that guy.
	He works for Fox.
	He's one of the kind of on-site reporters.
	Greetings, my friends!
	It's Friday!
	I have a very hungry team, because I didn't buy pizza today.
	Will they strike?
	I hope not.
	Don't worry guys, I'll bring you food on Monday.
	It's been a crazy day, it's been a crazy week, but the... Well, it's been crazy two and a half years, hasn't it?
	Can we just stop for a second and listen to that poor man?
	He wasn't really kind of reporting there, he was just, he was just being a human being.
	And he's standing outside a drug store, it doesn't matter what it is, CVS, Walgreens, who cares?
	And he's a resident of the capital.
	And he says, yeah, yeah, there's an armed security guard.
	But he can't do anything, because he's been told not to.
	Because if he did, he'd probably get put in prison by some Soros-funded lunatic prosecutor in DC.
	Oh, yeah, who's that prosecutor?
	The guy who decided that, yeah, let's throw the book out.
	The Proud Boys for 15, 17 or 22 years in prison, but 60 percent, 60 percent of the crimes in DC aren't prosecuted.
	That's the decision coming out of the DA's office.
	But if you're a Trump supporter, yeah, you'll go to prison for 22 years.
	So there's this poor security guard standing there with a gun on his hip.
	He can't do anything.
	And it's still VS, according to the reporter.
	And there are tents, there are homeless tents across the street, and they're selling what?
	Thirty yards away from the exit, they're selling the things they just stole with impunity.
	And is it really stealing?
	When the state says you're not allowed to protect your property, when the state makes it clear that you will go to prison if you protect your property, then it's not theft, it's worse than that.
	It's literal forced redistribution of wealth.
	If the state says that security guard or that CVS employee will be punished, judicially, if they try and prevent a crime, then that's Biden's government.
	That's the Department of Justice.
	That's the mayor of Washington, D.C.
	forcibly redistributing the wealth of the CVS store.
	It's just state theft.
	It's endorsed by the government.
	It's communism without the red banners.
	Can we be clear about what we're witnessing in Washington, in San Francisco, in Los Angeles, in Baltimore, in Chicago, in Philadelphia?
	This is America today.
	We don't want to overuse the word evil, but Greg Gutfeldt is right.
	It all starts with the White House.
	Cut 13.
	And you gotta ask, like, why not steal, if this is theft, why not steal from the colleges with their billions in endowments?
	Why not steal from the banks?
	Why are you putting it on the taxpayer?
	It's because, one reason, they understand that the taxpayer, the people watching this show, are powerless against this assault, right?
	You aren't a big institution with a building full of lawyers who can fight this.
	So you can steal from the truck driver, right?
	To supplement the gender studies graduate.
	Because the truck driver has no way to fight back.
	You know, why steal from us?
	Because you can!
	You can't rob a bank or a college, but you can rob our viewers.
	That's the sickest part.
	We are being robbed by the president.
	It's unconstitutional.
	It's not right.
	It's pretty much evil.
	So...
	President's evil?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	President's evil.
	They're all evil.
	Every single one that said what they said about cops in the last two and a half years.
	People like Antifa activist Ryan Carson.
	Have you seen the video?
	He was stabbed to death on Monday on camera in Brooklyn in front of his girlfriend.
	Everybody's saying it's a tragic loss.
	It needn't have happened, and he was such a delightful, kind man.
	What do you need to know about Ryan Carson, and what does it say about where we are in America?
	The dead Ryan Carson threatened an elected official on a Twitter post under his account, Art School Jock.
	He wrote, Hi!
	Political organizer here!
	I mean, they're just...
	Just a parody.
	I mean, what?
	Hey!
	Commie here!
	Political organizer here.
	It's not bullying to hold elected officials accountable.
	That being said, I would love to shove this little effing nerd in the locker where he belongs.
	What a kind chap he was.
	He responded to an article in the New York Post announcing the death of conservative Broadcaster extraordinaire Rush Limbaugh, who died after a battle with cancer.
	And this lovely chap, Ryan Carson, quoted the post about Rush's death with these words, L-M-O-A.
	Laughing my ass off.
	Hell yeah.
	So somebody died of cancer.
	He thinks it's funny.
	Oh, here's another one from the late Ryan Carson.
	Stabbed to death on the streets of Brooklyn in front of his girlfriend on camera.
	Celebrated a policed precinct being destroyed by rioters in a George Floyd protest.
	This tweet read, This is really good!
	That's the lovely kind man who was Ryan Carson.
	What about his girlfriend who's on camera watching as her boyfriend is stabbed to death?
	Her name is Claudia Morales and she's an anti-police pro-Antifa activist.
	Who did what after her boyfriend was stabbed to death in front of her?
	He refused to give a description of the suspect to the police.
	Why?
	Because he was black.
	If he was white, I guess it would have been okay.
	Hmm.
	What would Martin Luther King think?
	What would sane people think?
	How bad does it have to get, America?
	When somebody kills your boyfriend in front of you, but you think it's social justice not to help the police to catch him.
	Time to wake up, friends!
	Time to understand this is it.
	Crunch time!
	What are you doing about it?
	Are you politically involved in taking back America?
	Because otherwise, it won't be here for much longer.
	It's Friday, which is usually fun day.
	But sometimes, you just gotta tell it straight.
	The number here, 833-33 Gorka, that's 833-334-6752.
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	All right, we are delighted to have with us somebody who I shared a platform with, kind of virtually.
	Was it just yesterday?
	I think it was.
	On The War Room with Steve Bannon, the one, the only, Colorado's Lauren Bobert!
	It is wonderful to be with you, Dr. Gorka!
	All right, so much to discuss.
	We've only got seven and a half minutes.
	I know you're off to a very special engagement, so I have to ask you, what happened this week with the speaker vote?
	Because the more I dig and research, it seems like everyone was caught unawares, especially Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer afterwards, who had to get out of their offices within 24 hours.
	So you were there.
	You weren't one of the eight.
	What were the Democrats plotting?
	Were they trying to squeeze Kevin in a second vote and then Matt manages to get the requisite votes?
	Tell us what went down.
	Well, Dr. Gorka, I don't think the Democrats were in any position to save Kevin McCarthy.
	Kevin McCarthy has even been quoted saying that he thought Nancy Pelosi would save him if a motion to vacate ever came up, and she wasn't there for the vote at all.
	So even Nancy Pelosi turned her back on Kevin McCarthy, and he thought they had a deal.
	But I was in communication with my good friend Matt Gate.
	He and I had a disagreement on timing.
	That was it.
	I fought very hard to have... Explain the difference on timing.
	Did you want to do... What was your recommendation if you'd been leading the charge?
	Yes, my recommendation was allow us to get our appropriations bill out of the House and to the Senate.
	And if then we were rolled, well, then it's on Kevin McCarthy, like everything else.
	I shed no tears that he is gone at this time.
	But I wanted us to get through this appropriations process.
	It is very important for me to do our job to fund the federal government.
	Obviously, Matt sees that very different.
	He says, no matter what we were going to get rolled, our bills were not going to pass the House.
	But I wanted the opportunity to try.
	Matt has been there much longer than I have, and I had a sliver of hope since our congressional session schedule was changed.
	So, we were in Washington, D.C., working on these final eight bills that we needed to send to the Senate.
	I had a sliver of hope that we would get them across the finish line, sent to the Senate, and then we could come and work together on a negotiation.
	to fund the federal government and avoid another continuing resolution or an omnibus bill.
	And so he and I simply disagreed on timing.
	The principle of the motion to vacate, I stand behind, and I applaud Matt Gaetz and the seven others.
	You got Eli Crane, Matt Rosendale, Andy Big, Bob Good.
	These are true patriots.
	Tim Burchett joined the ranks.
	Nancy Mace, who is absolutely fed up with Kevin McCarthy and his tactics and deceiving the Republican Party.
	I'm proud of them for taking that stand and certainly would have been in the fight with them
	if Kevin McCarthy would have stayed in the running to be speaker again.
	There is no way he would have received my vote to remain speaker.
	But then we saw him back out and say, I'm not running for speaker again.
	So that certainly changed the dynamics of things.
	And now I have endorsed Jim Jordan.
	President Trump has endorsed Jim Jordan.
	And we are going to come together next week and hopefully in conference get to 218 votes
	to support Jim Jordan as speaker.
	And we can actually govern the way we all campaign.
	I have faith that Jim Jordan knows our rules package that we fought for in January.
	And we'll do everything that he can to help us execute on the promises that we have made to Americans.
	All right, well that's super exciting.
	The idea that we replace Kevin McCarthy with Jim Jordan is a massive, massive win.
	Whoever initiated it and whatever the timing was, we're talking to Congresswoman Lauren Boebert from Colorado.
	Follow her at Lauren Boebert.
	I want to talk to you about your campaign because I was listening to the interview that you did with Steve just before I came on The War Room yesterday.
	First things first, your website, lauren4colorado.com, is that correct?
	Yes, laurenforcolorado.com or laurenforfreedom.com.
	They both direct you to the same place.
	You should be the runaway.
	I get, I know the original election was super tight in your district, but what after you've produced and whatever, what you have brought to the table, you should be like the no-brainer, you know, victory re-election.
	I hear it's a very tight race.
	What the heck is going on in Colorado 3?
	Well, certainly our district is becoming more and more purple.
	We have more unaffiliated voters than we have Republican and Democrat combined.
	And so a lot of these folks really look towards policy.
	My first year in office, I was not able to accomplish my policy goals because we were in the minority.
	I was battling Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats every step of the way.
	And so it's hard to get legislation through committee when you are a conservative.
	In the minority.
	Now we are in the majority.
	And there are tons of policy wins that I can point to for my district when it comes to water, public lands, energy development, and so much more.
	But certainly I'm fighting on a national level as well.
	And the Democrats hate that.
	They smell blood in the water because this last race was so razor thin.
	I won by 546 votes.
	And I am proving to my district every single day that I am here defending them, fighting for Western Colorado values, and I am with my people every time that I am not in Washington, D.C.
	I'm in Grand Junction, Colorado today, and I will be in Ouray tomorrow, always on the road, traveling my 52,000-square-mile district, meeting with my voters, meeting with my constituents, hearing from them, and providing solutions.
	But Democrats hate a strong, conservative woman.
	And so they are coming after me with everything they can.
	They are raising millions and millions of dollars to buy the seat and take out the conservative voice that Colorado has representing them right now.
	So I need patriots from all over America to go to LaurenForFreedom.com and help in this race.
	They are doing everything they can.
	But also, Dr. Gorka, we have some pearl-clutching establishment Republicans who Don't know how to fight all the time and don't know what it's like to have a fighter representing them and would much rather just go along to get along and vote Democrat-lite rather than actually take a stand for something.
	So, the primary is going to be very tough and the general election.
	You have our full support here.
	Of course, the left wing hates a confident, successful, conservative woman.
	The website is LaurenForColorado.com.
	Follow her at Lauren Bobert.
	That's LaurenForColorado.com and on social media at Lauren Bobert.
	God bless you and all of those who are fighting for America every single day.
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	It is forward to working, working together.
	We can and obviously would have more conversation about this.
	We're going to have conversations.
	I think it's great that we're going to have a civil conversation.
	Civil, absolutely.
	But you know what's not civil?
	People dying on the streets.
	And in your district.
	Our state.
	In your district.
	Our state.
	No, it's your district.
	Our state.
	You have the fastest growing homeless population in the country.
	My district also has the fastest growing economy in the country.
	And this is our state.
	This is our problem.
	So you're okay?
	No, I had a solution for our homeless population.
	And I look forward to working with you.
	You did.
	And this guy wants to destroy our country.
	It really does.
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	What they have in DC is theatrics, it's performative, but it doesn't actually produce results for people.
	In Florida, I'm a leader.
	I'm not an entertainer.
	I'm not running a soap opera down here.
	It's weird.
	Jeff, can you explain that to me?
	If he's so special, why is he at 9% in the Republican primary?
	Because people just don't really understand the real leadership qualities that he has and everything that he's accomplished.
	That's the problem.
	Oh, thanks.
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	All right, let's go to your calls.
	Connecticut.
	That's such a weird word.
	David, line two.
	Sebastian.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	Sebastian, what's up?
	Yes, I'm calling because I want to give you my opinion as to whom I think would make a good Speaker of the House.
	And the fact that the House is primarily made up of politicians, The speaker should be a non-politician, a conservative, and a constitutional law expert.
	Mark Levin.
	I like Mark a lot, but don't you think he's kind of burnt his bridges with what he's done this week and how the awful things he's said about Matt Gaetz?
	Well, he's not a politician.
	Yeah, but he's going to have to be the Speaker of the House and he's going to have to wrangle the whole caucus.
	So if you call Matt Gaetz a deep swamp coward and clown, it's going to be hard to be a Speaker who's respected, isn't it?
	Well, Donald Trump has said a lot of things that might have affected a lot of people.
	Yeah, I know he has.
	I know he has.
	Do you think what I said matters?
	No, no.
	I think once the Speaker gets in, he is not one of them.
	No, I understand that.
	But when you've been so one-sided with regards to the removal of the last Speaker, you're just going to bring in bad blood, aren't you?
	No, no.
	You have to bring in constitutional law.
	You're not listening, David.
	Open your ears.
	If you have been utterly one-sided in the historic ouster of a speaker, how do you think that's going to position you as a leader?
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Alex, Brooklyn, line three.
	Hi Sebastian, thanks for taking the call, and I want to comment about the crime, but about the speakership, I'm actually a little bit concerned about Jim Jordan being able to make it, because the thing is, when the House, we have so many rhinos, and they're the folks that went for Kevin McCarthy because he had all the money, and we only need like five or six to come out against Jim Jordan, and now especially with Donald Trump's endorsement, Isn't there any concern here about the anti-Trump Republicans coming out against Jim Jordan?
	Always, always, always.
	But they also have to pay the price.
	If they're the obstacles to the GOP actually running the House, sooner or later they're going to feel a lot of heat, Alex.
	If they're the holdout votes, if they abstain or vote with the Democrats, how long do you think they can take that heat?
	So you're saying they're going to buckle under the pressure after a couple of weeks, but it's going to be... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Long before a couple of weeks.
	Long before.
	I give it three days.
	Okay, so I also want to comment about the crime and, you know, CVS, where they had the robbery going on over there.
	Let me tell you, the executives there are so stupid.
	They have no idea what they're doing.
	Number one, you just look at the fact they have an armed security guard.
	They're letting everybody steal from their store.
	Why do you have an armed security guard?
	Why are you paying to have an armed security guard there if you're letting everybody steal from the store?
	It just doesn't add up.
	So clearly, they're not smart, and maybe they think they're going to make back money if they're virtue signaling.
	They're doing beyond that.
	They're giving away free stuff, and they're doing the political crap, but it's not that they're not smart.
	They don't know what they're doing.
	But if we allow, because we feel bad for the victims and the homeless, for them to steal from the shops, what's going to end up happening is the stores are going to shut down and the homeless people, the victims, are not going to be able to steal from anywhere because there's not going to be any stores.
	And the people that are, you know, working, making a paycheck, I'm not going to be able to drop off some bread or... No, look, you're being logical.
	You know, that's your problem.
	You're being utterly logical.
	This isn't about logic.
	This is about a system run by Democrats that rewards the criminals.
	You're absolutely right.
	Can't be logical.
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	And how do you do that?
	Because you said you have to defeat them by defeating their leader.
	Their leader is Donald Trump.
	Even you have said that you expect him to be the Republican nominee.
	How does this change at all?
	At this point, I think, sadly, he will still likely be the nominee, and we have to defeat him.
	And we have to defeat those who are the election deniers, as we did in 2020 and 2022.
	The election deniers?
	You mean like you?
	Who've been saying for how long that the election was stolen by the Russians?
	I guess you should be in prison, shouldn't you, Hillary?
	Wait till you hear what she said about MAGA voters.
	We'll save that for later.
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	Another warrior princess for the truth is of course Carrie Lake and we are delighted
	to celebrate Friday with her here on America First.
	Carrie, welcome back to the Salem News Network.
	Good to see you, Seb.
	Thank God it's Friday, as they say.
	Indeed, indeed.
	Especially after you had a rather strange trip by air with a Democrat who was trying to troll you while you were in the air.
	We have a little clip of this tiny individual after the plane landed.
	Let's play the cut, please.
	I look forward to working together if we can, and obviously we'll have more conversations about this, but I think it's great that we have a civil conversation today.
	Civil, absolutely.
	But you know what's not civil?
	People dying on the streets.
	And in your district.
	Our state.
	In your district.
	Our state.
	No, it's your district.
	You have the fastest growing homeless population in the country.
	My district also has the fastest growing economy in the country.
	And this is our state.
	This is our problem.
	So you're okay.
	No, I have a solution for our homeless population.
	And I look forward to working with you.
	You did.
	And this guy wants to destroy our country.
	He really does.
	Who is that diminutive drone, Carrie?
	He is Congressman Ruben Gallego.
	He's known as the Arizona's AOC.
	That's a congressman?
	Yeah, that's a congressman.
	Wow.
	Yes, he's taken a page out of John Fetterman's playbook on how to dress.
	And how to present yourself.
	And he has done so much damage to the district he represents, downtown Phoenix, the homeless.
	They have the largest growing homeless encampment in the country, which probably makes it the largest in the world, right there in the district that he's been representing.
	He's done nothing to make this area any better.
	The quality of life is hitting a rock bottom.
	And he has done so much damage there.
	He wants to now take his terrible policies statewide and run for U.S. Senate.
	So I happened to be on a flight back from D.C. with him yesterday.
	I didn't know it.
	I didn't notice when he got on the plane.
	He apparently noticed me.
	And I noticed about halfway through the flight that I was being trolled by him.
	And he was basically telling me to come back and find him in his seat.
	And he wanted to talk about all of his legislative, he thought, was success.
	And I thought, you know what?
	I would like to talk to him, but I'm not going to go back on the plane.
	I'll just wait at the gate when I get off and I'll have a conversation with him.
	And that was a little clip of it.
	It started really with a discussion of why hasn't he done something to secure our border?
	He and Kyrsten Sinema, who are both running for Senate here in Arizona.
	She's also a liberal, just like him, a radical liberal.
	They've done nothing except vote for open borders.
	They voted against funding the wall.
	He has voted to actually give all of the people here illegally voting rights.
	He wants everyone who's coming across that border right now to be able to vote in our elections.
	And for amnesty for all of them.
	And so I wanted to talk to him about that, because people are dying, Seb.
	You know this.
	They're dying on our streets.
	We've got a fentanyl killing a young generation, and he has no solutions for it.
	He wants to get into the U.S.
	Senate and make it worse.
	So it's an interesting conversation.
	Yeah, I'll repost the whole video.
	But, you know, I got an idea.
	Why don't you run against him for Senate?
	Let me think about that.
	You know what?
	I think you should think about that.
	And I think maybe, maybe on Tuesday you could announce it.
	Let me mull it over on Tuesday, October 10th.
	Maybe right around dinner time, about 6 or 6.30, I'll give you an answer.
	How's that?
	I like it.
	And then we've got to get you back on the show after you declare what I think you're going to declare.
	In the meantime, let's have a little bit of fun about the future of America and how we can save it.
	There's a certain governor from Florida who had this to say about a man we admire greatly and one I used to work for.
	This is Ron DeSantis on President Trump.
	Cut nine.
	Some people will be with Trump no matter what, but I think the bulk of the people are people that appreciate what he did.
	They also understand that he's got limitations in terms of his electability.
	He would be a lame duck on day one if he could even get elected.
	I think he'd have major problems with personnel.
	A lame duck?
	Hang on, wasn't this guy literally made governor by President Trump's endorsement?
	Absolutely, and by Trump voters as well.
	And Trump voters and Trump supporters donated to his campaign, only to then be disappointed when he decided to run against President Trump.
	But you know, it's so funny when people say electability when talking about President Trump.
	He's up 50 points ahead of these other jamokes in the polls.
	He's up 50 points.
	This is stunning.
	I was talking to Victor Davis Hanson about this.
	Everybody else, Carrie, is in the single digits.
	Even DeSantis is at 9%.
	And who's the clown here?
	Who's the loser?
	We're 13 months out and you're being beaten by 50 points.
	Can you imagine being so delusional that you are at You know, nine points in the poll, or in DeSantis's case, you're in fifth place in New Hampshire, and you would actually have the gall to go onto a show, a program, and tell people that Trump, who's at 60% in the polls, is unelectable.
	It's like we're on Planet Crazy with these people.
	I would never expect that with the Republicans.
	You got it with the Democrats.
	But Ron, if he were smart, he would back down from this, because I know he's got his pack, never back down.
	If he were smart, he would back down and actually go back and be the governor that the people in Florida need and deserve.
	And he would support President Trump immediately.
	We need to stop this sideshow, this circus clown show on the side and get serious because we're losing our country.
	Listen to Carrie, some sagacious advice.
	Can't wait for Tuesday.
	In the meantime, go to CarrieLake.com and follow her at Carrie Lake on social media.
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	Hi, thank you for taking my call.
	I wanted to point out that President Trump's words are very effective and powerful.
	His words stopped the Russians in their tracks, unlike Obama's Crimea and Biden's Ukraine.
	And his words also caused the Chinese to shake in their boots, which caused the Chinese to activate Milley for insider information.
	And his words convinced the Mexicans to It's up to us my dear, it's up to us.
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	Let's go to Tom in Atlanta.
	It's up to us, my dear. It's up to us. It's not about wanting. It's about getting him re-elected.
	Everybody has to be politically active. Thank you, my dear.
	Let's go to Tom in Atlanta.
	Sebastian, thanks for taking my call.
	Yep.
	Okay, so before I get to the Biden impeachment urging of the Congress on order,
	which Kerry Lake just sort of detailed for me.
	Um, I.
	I would like to... Next time you talk to Larry Elder, I think he missed the boat when he didn't declare himself to be a female because I know Gavin Newsom wanted to replace Dianne Feinstein with a woman... No, no, no, no, no, no.
	A lesbian female, right?
	Remember who he chose.
	It wasn't just a Planned Parenthood activist.
	It was a black lesbian.
	Okay, well, yeah, he could go there too, you know, why not?
	It's Friday, let's have fun.
	Anyway, on the southern border, this to me should have been done, you know, early on in the Biden administration, but now we have more evidence than any of what he's done in office, and we don't need an investigation.
	We already have all the facts we need, and it needs to be done because... What needs to be done?
	You're not being clear, Tom.
	We've got 30 seconds.
	What needs to be done?
	an impeachment of Biden because of his violations of his oath of office.
	Right, but it wasn't going to happen under Kevin McCarthy.
	That's why we got rid of him.
	I know, but now the staffers of all the Republican congressmen need to be working
	on these documents to be presented within a week after Jim Jordan or whoever is declared the new
	And because even though he won't be run out of office because of the Senate, he will be exposed to millions of Americans.
	I agree.
	We have to get the documents out there.
	And by the way, to our first caller who said Mark Levin should be Speaker, Jeff told me Mark has already endorsed Jim Jordan.
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	Do you know what happened to me?
	I didn't even mention this.
	It happened, I think, on Tuesday.
	My wife is involved in door knocking.
	So she's got 900 homes in Northern Virginia where she's going around and trying to activate people for the Virginia elections.
	Every seat in the Senate, every seat in the House is up for grabs.
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	It's not a Trump yard sign, okay?
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	They were all stolen.
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	Stealing local election yard signs?
	Maybe it's a sign of their desperation.
	Maybe they're being mugged by reality or maybe they're being mugged in reality.
	Congressman Henry Quaylar of Texas was carjacked on Monday and he's getting a little bit vocal.
	Here he is talking about Biden and what he's hiding.
	This is Cut 12, Congressman Henry Quayler.
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	This administration is doing some deportations, but they don't show them.
	They're afraid to show people going back, like President Obama and Secretary Jeh Johnson did.
	You've got to show repercussions, and you've got to show video of people going back and not just streaming across over here.
	Why do you think they're afraid to show the repercussions?
	Why do you think they're afraid to show people being deported and going back?
	That's a good question, isn't it?
	Why?
	Why would they actually be deporting people in quiet, under cover of night, but not showing it to anyone?
	Because it means that after two and a half years, the narrative has broken.
	Remember what we discussed already with Jim.
	They're building a part of the wall.
	Why are they building a part of the wall?
	I thought walls were racist.
	We were told that anybody who wants to build a wall is a bigot.
	The narrative is collapsing, my friends.
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	I'm going to be talking about the importance of the word.
	And I'm going to be talking about the importance of the word.
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	A voter that goes to ten rallies their vote counts the same as somebody that's
	unenthusiastic than then that goes and votes and And we just have to understand that.
	And people will act like 2020, they're like, you know, Biden was such a disaster.
	But here's the thing.
	I don't think anybody voted for Biden, okay?
	They were voting against Trump.
	That was why they did it.
	I mean, let's just be honest.
	He energized Democrats.
	You could have John Kennedy walk through the door right now and he wouldn't energize Democrats as much as Donald Trump does.
	That's just the reality.
	Well, I think they'd be impressed because hasn't JFK been dead since 1962?
	Jeff, if JFK walked into a room, I think Democrats would probably react.
	Don't you think?
	I think everybody would be energized by that.
	They'd ask him, who killed you, right?
	Exactly.
	Tucker would say the CIA.
	Yeah, his nephew would say the CIA.
	Why is the governor of Florida saying that?
	That's so weird.
	Let's ask the man who has all the answers when it comes to politics, the swamp, and even some great historic perspectives.
	We call him the Baron, Senior Advisor to the Trump 2024 campaign.
	His attorney as well, Baron Boris Epstein.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Thank you so much.
	It's an honor to be with you and the audience.
	Let me out here.
	I want to talk about somebody else in a moment.
	Who's that whiny teenager whose clip you played?
	But hang on a second.
	Hang on a second.
	Let's have some B-roll of DeSantis playing in the background.
	If nobody voted for Biden, but they were voting against President Trump, why did Ron DeSantis get on his knees to get an endorsement from President Trump?
	Can you explain those two juxtapositions, to use a big word, Boris?
	That's probably too big for Rob to sanctimonious of a word.
	And that's a good question.
	And also, why does he do advertisements featuring his whole family talking about the wall and reading Art of the Deal to his kids?
	Reading Donald Trump's books at bedtime to his kids.
	So is the sanctimonious lying now?
	Was he lying then?
	It's obvious that he's not authentic.
	Maybe he's just lying all the time.
	And that's why he's in single digits in the polling.
	He's dropped like an injured bird, as President Trump put it.
	I need to, yeah, not a wretched crow like the incumbent in the White House.
	So we have the stats, this latest poll that we mentioned yesterday.
	Absolutely stunning.
	And I want to make sure I get the figures right, because I can't think, you have the historic perspective.
	Maybe I'm wrong here, Boris, but I'm reading this out.
	This is National Republican Primary Interactive Polls, the sources survey USA.
	That's right.
	This is stunning.
	So, President Trump is at 65%.
	65%.
	56 points behind him is DeSantis at 9, then Vivek at 8, Nikki Haley at 5, Pence at 4, Kris McQueen-Christie at 3, Senator Scott at 2, and Doug Burgum at 1.
	I'm trying to think, in the history of modern American politics, when have we been 13 months out from an election?
	And nobody is in double digits except one person who's 56 points in front of the others.
	In certain incumbent elections is the only time this has ever happened.
	Right, but that's different.
	That's incumbents.
	He's not an incumbent.
	And in a quote-unquote contested election, This has never happened.
	It is unprecedented, and it speaks to the overwhelming power, strength, and leadership of President Donald J. Trump, and to the smart level of input, to the absolute understanding of the current world and American politics that the American people now have.
	They're cutting through the nonsense.
	They're cutting through the fake news, and they're seeing the facts, which is President Trump is the only one who can bring our country back to greatness on the border, on the economy, on national security, on energy independence.
	That's what these numbers mean.
	And maybe instead of whining and being so pathetic, DeSanctimonious could do the right thing, quit, save some chance he has for a political future, and coalesce behind the only leader our country wants, which is President Donald J. Trump.
	You were very kind to forward a personal note to me from the President last week.
	I know millions of our listeners out there right now would like to know how he's doing after the latest assault on him out of New York.
	Give us a little sense of how 45 is doing, please, Baron.
	I'm honored to say this.
	What you see with President Trump when he's out there in full force in front of the sticks, in front of the media, the sticks being the microphones, in front of the media in New York is what you get.
	He is strong, defiant.
	And he is full of resolute power to fight against weaponization of law enforcement, the targeting of political opponents as being undertaken by Crooker Joe Biden and the DOJ, and their cohorts, their comrades, Manhattan DA, Georgia DA, and, of course, the New York AG.
	President Trump is firing on all cylinders and fighting, as he always does for the American people.
	Now one of the fun things, you're far too busy now because you're senior advisor to the president and his attorney, but we used to have you in studio for longer discussions, and sooner or later... It's always great in studio.
	Super fun, and you always used to bring, because you're a kind of amateur historian, you used to bring amazing historic perspective, but sadly Many Americans who were born here don't have.
	You know, it takes immigrants to often appreciate what we have.
	Can I use your historic perspective, especially as somebody who comes from the former Soviet Union, to react to this interview with Hillary Clinton, President Trump's opponent in 2016, where she uses a phrase that For anyone who has any knowledge about the Cold War, it really should make them very, very, very disturbed.
	This is Hillary Clinton, former Secretary of State, former First Lady.
	Cut three.
	There wasn't this little tale of extremism waving, you know, wagging the dog of the Republican Party as it is today.
	And sadly, so many of those extremists, those mega extremists, take their marching orders from Donald Trump, who has no credibility left by any measure.
	He's only in it for himself.
	He's now defending himself in civil actions and criminal actions.
	And when do they break with him?
	You know, because at some point, you know, maybe there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the cult members.
	There has to be a formal deprogramming of American citizens, Boris?
	This is typical, liberal, far-left, overarching, autocratic, dictatorial speak.
	This is what the extremes have been doing for hundreds and hundreds of years.
	And what is she saying?
	That she wants to forcibly, forcibly make MAGA, which is at least 100 million strong in our country, give up its ideals.
	Well, how do you do that?
	If you look at history from Germany to Soviet Union to Cambodia to North Korea and China now, it's pretty clear what this leftist is calling for.
	Hillary Clinton, formerly known as Crooked, now it's Crooked Joe Biden, as President Trump has said.
	It was the greatest day of her life when he gave moniker Crooked to Joe Biden.
	Hillary Clinton is calling for a forced re-education of the American people.
	You know who was one of the last to do that?
	Mao Zedong in China.
	That must be her ideal of a leader.
	So when you use phrases like deprogramming, you're talking about the state, you're talking about the forcible political retraining, the concepts of bad think and good think, and you're also talking about re-education camps, Boris.
	That's an American politician talking about Stalinist and Maoist tools in our political context in the 21st century.
	Well, you know, she grew up in the far-left Solonski-Balzidon Stalinist school.
	That's where she comes from.
	That's why the American people rejected her.
	And that is why she's nowhere near The center of America discourse right now.
	Sometimes they trot her back out on MSNBC.
	I frankly forget she exists until they do that.
	And why do they hide her?
	It's because she says ridiculous things like this that show the American people, that expose to the American people what the Democrat Party is.
	It's extremist, it's dictatorial, and frankly, un-American.
	Yeah, it is shocking that anyone who was close to political power and clearly who wants it again would be making that kind of comments in America today publicly.
	Publicly is even worse.
	We've been talking to the Senior Advisor of the Trump 2020 campaign, Attorney to the President, my former colleague in the White House, Boris Epstein.
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	We were discussing musicals last week with our regular Friday guest, Don't Cry For Me Argentina.
	Yeah, they actually said that in DC where I went to see it.
	Destroying a song so many people, millions around the world know a little bit differently, but it was a good performance.
	He's been south of the border.
	He's going to give us an update.
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	Happy Friday!
	I listen, like six hours ago I was in Guatemala so... Whoa!
	Give that man a cigar from Costa Rica.
	Thank you for coming in studio.
	You look good for it though.
	Private jet?
	Private jet?
	Like, you know... Actually, no, I did six flights in three days because I gave a talk in Tallahassee.
	DC to Charlotte, Charlotte to Tallahassee, Tallahassee to Dallas, Dallas to Houston, Houston to Guatemala City, Guatemala City back to... I think that's got me beat.
	You know the worst thing I ever did?
	In one day, I flew from here...
	To Garmisch-Partenkirchen to give a lecture at the Marshall Center, and I flew back the same day.
	I've done that.
	I thought that was pretty impressive, but I think you got me beat.
	I did that to Delhi.
	I flew to Delhi.
	Delhi?!
	I flew to Delhi, got there in the afternoon, gave a speech, got on the midnight flight and came back.
	Nuts.
	12 hours in Delhi.
	Nuts.
	That's why he's senior counsel to the president of the Heritage Foundation.
	Okay, no names, no pank drill, but the border is finally an issue on both sides of the aisle here in America.
	What about where you were?
	Is it an issue?
	So this is what's really important.
	So if you don't know your geography, that's okay.
	They call it Central America because it is the connectivity between South America and Mexico.
	So Guatemala is right in the middle.
	And so if you walk from one side of Guatemala, you're in the Atlantic Ocean.
	If you walk to the other side, you're in the Pacific Ocean.
	So everything goes through Guatemala.
	And so if you want to understand what's going on.
	Everyone in Latin America will tell you that Biden's border policy is not just a problem for the United States, it's destabilizing the entire Western Hemisphere.
	Because?
	Because all this human flow... Just the physical movement, or the crime that comes with it, or the brain drain, or yes, yes, yes.
	All of the above.
	And so, for example, one of the things we're seeing now is the cartels are embedding part of the drug trafficking in the migrant streams.
	So they're the only guys who understand the importance of resilient, redundant supply chains, right?
	Are they using mules or their own people?
	So no, they're just making people be mules for them.
	So in addition, you know, Biden is embracing all these left and other regimes
	and they are turning on, literally and stabbing us in the back in immigration.
	Explain that.
	So he's trying to normalize relations with Venezuela, for example.
	Venezuela is ground zero for global networks to bring people to the United States every day.
	Human trafficking.
	Flight loads of planes from China and Africa land in Venezuela, right, and they pay their thousands of dollars to get Transported to the United States.
	With the cognizance of the Venezuelan government.
	Absolutely.
	No, it's a business.
	It's a business in Venezuela.
	And at the same time, this is the perfect thing.
	They're literally deporting anybody in the country that doesn't agree with them.
	So they put a half a million people on the road, and then we just let them in the country, in the United States, and we give them, you know, this temporary status.
	That's advertising, like, send me a half a million more.
	I won't get a little bit wonkish here, but international relations is so much about perception, not just reality.
	I'm curious, when you talk to the people in that hemisphere, in that land bridge, how do they look at America?
	Do they have any ideas as to why Biden is doing it?
	Well, they just think we're nuts.
	And they're divided in two.
	So there is the Foro de Sao Paulo, which is the people that really want to transform Latin America into a Marxist super state.
	Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Bolivia, they look at this as a golden opportunity to destroy America.
	So they're like, what can we do?
	Do they look at Biden as an idiot or as one of them?
	Well, they look at him as an idiot, right?
	Because he tries to be nice to them because they're leftists, but their actual goal is to actually destroy the United States.
	And then on the flip side, you have countries like Guatemala and other countries which want to survive.
	I think I told you this story.
	So we had this forum and somebody looked at me and they said, you know what our biggest problem is?
	And they pointed at me.
	They said, you know, we know what the Chinese are trying to do.
	We know what the Russians are trying to do.
	We know what the Iranians and Hezbollah are doing.
	But America used to be our friend.
	So how do they think?
	Do they say, can we get Trump back?
	What do the good guys say?
	Well, it's interesting.
	The people who don't want this instability in their country.
	Well, yeah, if you talk, and there are actually very large conservative, even in countries which now have some of the most crazy, wacko leftist leaders like Brazil and Colombia, they have huge conservative populations, which are very And of course, they love Donald Trump.
	And let's forget about the Cubans and the Venezuelans who just think Trump is a useful idiot, so they don't want anybody else.
	You mean Biden?
	Biden, right.
	Sorry, sorry.
	Biden's a useful idiot.
	But let's talk about the men in the middle, like Mexico and some of these other countries.
	If you ask them in private, they'll be like, Trump comes back?
	Fine.
	We'll work it out.
	You know what he'll do?
	He'll actually force us, or any Republican, right?
	To fix these.
	They will force us to pick problems which are actually problems for us.
	We can yell at them and say, oh evil Americans, look what they're making us do.
	But we're actually, you know, but it's, we... Do you think, and we've only got 30 seconds left in this segment, but we're gonna keep you over as usual.
	Do you think what happened, what's happening on the streets of New York, the fact that allegedly Biden is building the wall, has something happened this week?
	No, I don't think so.
	I think it's all up.
	Everything Biden is doing, it's all about election stuff.
	The pretending that we're... Shell game.
	Right.
	They're not actually going to do anything on the border.
	We're going to get destroyed with this criminal and illegal migration.
	But the other thing is, we are a hair's breadth from China taking over Latin America.
	We are this close, Michael.
	And in what sense?
	Just economically?
	No, geopolitically.
	Because the Cubans, the Venezuelans, these guys are all in with the Marxist vision.
	They're all in with China, right?
	The number of countries that actually think Marxism is a bad idea and letting the Chinese into your neighborhood is a bad idea, those people are getting squashed.
	Squeezed.
	We're talking to Jim Carufano.
	He is a Senior Counsel to the President of the Heritage Foundation.
	You heard him earlier this week on the show, Kevin Roberts.
	You should be a member of the most important conservative organization in America for 50 years now, right?
	Wow.
	Amazing.
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	The good governments south of the border can't do anything.
	Nah, not on their end.
	We're going to be a minority in this country.
	People here are legally...
	And the governments, even the good governments south of the border can't do anything.
	Nah, not on their end.
	They can't stop anything.
	No.
	Because they just can't deal with the demand.
	Do you think this building the wall thing is just to placate Eric Adams and everybody else?
	Yeah.
	It's all just PR.
	Because then they'll go, oh, well, he's trying to deal with the problem.
	Yeah, it's just PR.
	I mean, and even then they can't even get their narrow state like one minute. It's like oh, yeah, we're gonna do
	it No, we actually don't want to know they're making us do it,
	right?
	Because it's legislation from 2019. Yeah, I didn't have to do the two and a half years. Well, we have to do it
	It's just all did you notice Eric Adams in private?
	There's not one person on the left who doesn't think this is a disaster you mean there
	There.
	They think that Biden... This was supposed to be controlled chaos, right?
	And they've lost control of it.
	I'm curious.
	I mean, it doesn't really matter, but what do they think in other countries?
	Do they think that the Democrats want to destroy America?
	Or they're just idiots?
	Or buddies of China?
	What's their take on how America is doing this?
	What do they think?
	Well, I think it's like here.
	You know, people have lots of different Yeah, yeah.
	Is there any overwhelming narrative?
	Are we just nuts?
	I think they just think we're nuts.
	We're crazy.
	And of course, the number one thing is, you're out to destroy us.
	The anti-Americanism has never been higher.
	Because of what it does to their countries.
	Because of what it's doing to their countries.
	And you have to remember, at the same time that Biden is doing this stuff, he is doing like, well, my ambassador is here to promote green energy and LGBTQ rights.
	And so we have these kind of deeply conservative countries who are being destroyed by transnational crime, public violence.
	And then we've got the rainbow flag on our embassy.
	Oh my gosh.
	And even guys like, what's his name?
	You know the guy in, was it El Salvador?
	Yeah.
	That everybody likes?
	Yes.
	He is like big time profiting off the human trafficking thing, right?
	So all the conservatives say, oh he's brought, you know he's eliminated crime.
	Well yeah, he's also helping, he's also helping shovel illegal aliens into your country.
	Will you play Cup 7?
	If you're Vladimir Putin, there's no solution or resolution to the fight for the next 14 months.
	You're going to wait out and see what happens.
	You're going to wait and see whether the Congress actually does fail to pass more military aid as of the moment they are stuck on.
	You're going to wait and see whether Donald Trump wins the November 2024 election because clearly Donald Trump is going to be friendlier to Moscow than the Biden administration is.
	That'll be the bad situation.
	When Trump comes out, that'll be when Russia is dangerous.
	Thank you.
	Of course.
	Yeah.
	The New York Times doing its last question.
	You know what Trump says?
	He says, well, I'll go to the table and say, guys, you've got to stop fighting.
	If the Ukrainians don't stop fighting, I'm going to cut off the arms.
	If the Russians don't stop fighting, I'm going to give the Ukrainians... Right.
	And like... That's how you play.
	Does anybody think that the Russians think that that's a... We've got to wait for that guy, right?
	Right.
	That'll be better.
	You the
	your doubts if yours environment prudent there's no solution a resolution to the
	fight for the next fourteen months You're going to wait out and see what happens.
	You're going to wait and see whether the Congress actually does fail to pass more military aid as of the moment they are stuck on.
	You're going to wait and see whether Donald Trump wins the November 2024 election because clearly Donald Trump is going to be friendlier to Moscow than the Biden administration is.
	Yeah, yeah, Peter Baker of the New York Times, because so many countries were invaded by Russia when we were in the White House.
	So weird, they didn't invade Crimea under Obama.
	They didn't invade Ukraine, the rest of Ukraine, under Biden.
	Just, they think you're so stupid!
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	Putin made a statement yesterday saying he has been briefed by his head of investigations that Prigozhin, the head of the Wagner group, killed himself because he was playing with a grenade on his jetliner.
	Well, let's ask Peter Baker, because apparently he knows exactly what Putin is thinking.
	I mean, the hubris of these people, like, let me tell you what Vladimir Putin is thinking, based on what evidence whatsoever, right?
	And, you know, we were talking about this during the break, right?
	Because, you know, we all play the Trump in our head that we like.
	And you know me, I'm not political.
	I'm not saying pick this candidate, pick that candidate.
	Vote for anybody you damn well please.
	But we always do this.
	You know, we did this on NATO when people kept saying, well Trump wants us to stand NATO.
	And I can give you all these quotes where Trump goes, I fixed NATO.
	NATO is great.
	It's wonderful.
	But they never... So here's what Trump said, right?
	This is like almost like a quote.
	He goes, here's what I'm going to do.
	I'm going to walk in and I'm going to tell the Ukrainians that they don't stop fighting.
	They're not getting any military aid.
	And I'm telling the Russians that if they don't back off, I'm going to give the Ukrainians every freaking weapon on the planet.
	That's what he said.
	Even more!
	Right. Now, who the heck thinks that that's a message that Vladimir Putin said,
	oh my god, I can hardly wait till Trump gets elected and threatens to arm Ukraine to the
	absolute teeth. Even more. Even more. Like, really? Yeah, that's why these guys are pikers
	and they're propagandists. All right, let's talk about what's happening in America when it comes
	to national security. This story broke the biggest kind of national security story this week domestically.
	Front cover story of Newsweek.
	I have to get your reaction as Mr. Homeland Security.
	This story states, exclusive to Newsweek, on multiple sources from the FBI, that MAGA voters, Trump voters, have been identified as the new threat by the FBI.
	Just people who want to vote for President Trump are the new domestic terror threat.
	Well, you know, this goes back to the Hillary Clinton thing about we need a deep program, right?
	You know, as a guy that only has been doing Homeland Security for, you know, several decades, right?
	I mean, I look at the data, right?
	What?
	You look at facts, Jim?
	And the data is just not there.
	This notion of this rising populist extremism, there is no data for that.
	Well, there's all those attacks.
	That I can't think of.
	Right, because there's zero, right?
	Right.
	But, you know, on the other hand, you know, we've seen organized political violence from Antifa and BLM.
	We continue to see organized political violence from Antifa virtually every day.
	I mean, Andy Ngo every day is saying, hey, is putting out concrete examples of this.
	And it is.
	It's a political narrative.
	OK, the data's not there, but this is dangerous.
	When the most powerful federal law enforcement agency in the world says, you vote the wrong way, therefore you're a terrorist?
	No, you're an extremist.
	And it's cascading all over the world because everybody does this now, right?
	So they think conservatives in Italy are terrorists.
	They think conservatives in Guatemala are terrorists.
	Brexit is.
	And the Europeans think, the American conservatives are.
	So this is poisonous.
	And look, I mean, In the political space, I get that.
	Because we are a divided country, we're 50-50, and we can't have a fair fight, right?
	We've got to demonize the other side.
	I get that.
	That's just politics.
	But when you weaponize the instruments of governance, you have transcended politics, and you've gotten into a new and very, very dangerous space.
	The same people that published that magazine cover, if you brought them You know, the cover of some magazine about Joe McCarthy in the 50s, they go, oh my God, this is horrific.
	How could anybody do blacklisting people in Hollywood because they're apologizing?
	Oh my God, this is a horrible, terrible thing.
	And yet what they're doing is way, way worse.
	They're actually saying that, not activists, Not even, you know, people that organize groups.
	But literally, everyday Americans, people who have a political opinion, which happens to be conservative, ought to be automatically considered maybe a terrorist.
	And that's not blacklisting.
	That's much worse than blacklisting.
	We've been talking to Jim Carrafano on Twitter.
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	And I'm delighted to have in studio a man who Well, he knows a little bit about guns.
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	He's a former Marine and now he is the co-host of something called Guns Out TV.
	John Keyes, welcome in studio!
	Hey, glad to be here again!
	Now I'm reading an article about you in the Washington Examiner after you had your range day recently and it says that you have a I think this must be fake news.
	There's a misprint here.
	It says that you bought your first gun three years ago.
	Yes.
	Excuse me?
	Your gun's out TV.
	How is that possible, John?
	I mean, that's... Come on, explain!
	That's what the community does to you.
	That's what the rabbit hole does to you.
	I mean... You were a Marine?
	Yes.
	And you left the Marines and you didn't buy a gun until 2020.
	I didn't.
	People don't understand that in the military, if you're not an infantryman, special forces, something like that, gun handling, the firearms training experience is very ushered.
	It's an ushered experience.
	It's a small part of your job.
	A small part of the job.
	You just have to be a basic marksman.
	I happened to be an expert marksman year over year because I just loved it so much.
	But you didn't buy a gun.
	But I didn't buy a gun because, to be honest with you, They emphasize the responsibility of what handling and owning a firearm is.
	And I just, you know, I was young in my career in the Marine Corps.
	I wasn't ready for that responsibility.
	I had enough self-awareness to know.
	And I didn't, and I also didn't have enough proper examples of responsible gun ownership in the civilian community of my friends and even family.
	I just didn't have the right examples.
	So what happened in 2020, John?
	I mean, in 2020, That's where everybody realized that they have to start taking their own security.
	Was it COVID?
	What was it?
	It was COVID.
	It was civil unrest.
	It was a combination of all the things that were going on in 2020.
	2020 was the year that I thought that was the rapture.
	I thought the rapture was coming for us, man.
	I remember going to my gun store in Vienna, Virginia, and especially on a Friday or a Saturday.
	Oh, Saturday was the worst.
	There was a line out of the door.
	People had to wait to go in.
	And, fascinatingly, a lot of minority, a lot of black, a lot of Asian Americans, and a vast majority, because I'd stop and I'd talk to them, first-time buyers.
	What happened?
	You know, if you look at the first episode of Guns Eye TV, the very first actual episode that me and Shermichael filmed, The opening of that episode was me at Gander Mountain in Fredericksburg, and it was me... Which is the big gun store.
	Yeah, right.
	It's like Cabela's, you know, Brownells, all of that.
	And I'm out there, mask on, middle of COVID, and I say, and look at this line.
	I turned the camera and it was a line wrapped around the store, down the parking lot.
	And it was so funny because we were all there for ammo.
	Everybody was trying to buy ammo.
	And they had this thing where you could only get a certain, everybody could only get a certain allocation of ammo.
	So what did I do?
	I went in with my mask and one, one outfit on.
	I came out, I changed, put on a different hoodie, a different mask.
	And I went back in, I bought some more ammo.
	And I did that.
	Listen, I did that for the episode, too, so that was like a big splash.
	We've got to check it out.
	GunsOutTV.com.
	That's GunsOutTV.com.
	You say something very interesting in the article, and we'll talk about Range Day.
	That was the kind of hook for the article.
	You said there's a difference between gun owners and people who are like 2nd Amendment supporters.
	Talk to us about that distinction that most people probably don't get.
	Yeah, so okay, so when you think about a gun owner, right?
	There's so many new gun owners.
	They're buying guns out of what they deem a necessity.
	I bought my first gun, my first pistol rifle, what I thought was a necessity.
	I didn't know what was happening next with the government's infrastructure.
	2020 was just mayhem.
	So buying a gun out of necessity, that does not make me a Second Amendment supporter because I wasn't versed in What was actually at stake, all the ways that they were trying to restrict gun ownership, restrict certain types of firearms that you are capable to buy and own as a civilian.
	And there's a lot of people that still don't understand that.
	They don't understand how their voice can be heard in that argument to stop the tyranny that is trying to restrict, in so many cities, in so many states all across America, how you can or cannot be a responsible gun owner.
	I get a lot, especially from content providers, saying, I'm into guns, but I don't do politics.
	And I go...
	Excuse me?
	Yeah.
	You can't not do politics if people want to take away your guns.
	What do you think to that?
	You know, perfect example.
	I just read an article about Bautista.
	Bautista, you know the actor Bautista, David Bautista?
	Yeah, the big guy.
	Yeah, the guy plays Drax on Guardians of the Galaxy.
	So, you know, he was recently training at Terran's facility, Terran Tactical.
	Right.
	And I don't know if it's for a new movie he's doing or just keeping up with his maintenance or whatever.
	But he made a statement in that article that says, you cannot, like, like, guys, I'm all about guns, but no one needs an AR-15.
	I feel like you're compensating if you need an AR-15.
	And you should be weary on how you celebrate people that dangle guns in front of you like a carrot.
	That was literally, I mean, I paraphrase slightly, but that was the crux of what he said.
	Your response?
	Yeah, my response is that that doesn't make any sense at all.
	If you really stop to think about that, that argument befuddles me because at the end of the day, people want to tie AR-15 to mass shootings because that's the weapon of choice up to this point.
	But you can do equal or more damage with a regular pistol.
	Go to Baltimore on a weekend.
	It's the same thing and when you think about urban inner-city violence and things of that nature that's not with AR-15s
	Those are with regular handguns that people either building on their own or getting illegally stealing you are stealing
	exactly So so it really is no dog in the fight as far as how people
	are attacking the AR-15 specifically But yeah
	I don't know that you can be a gun owner and not support the thing that defends you being a gun owner
	Because guess what?
	At the end of the day, when that legislation is passed, that affects you too, no matter how much of a gun owner person you are, 2A person you are.
	You got a gun, it applies to you.
	And what is the ultimate civil right?
	I think the ultimate civil right is the capacity to protect yourself and, if necessary, to remove a tyrannical government.
	All right, let's put a picture up there of their amazing range day recently at XCAL.
	I got to fire the Genesis 12.
	Yeah!
	You know, from John Wick, that amazing shotgun.
	Still waiting for my sample.
	Cody, you have been warned.
	I can't wait to test it out.
	We got to shoot the Tarn Tactical Glocks and the 2011 as well.
	And maybe we have to have a new event.
	I think we have to have a shoot-in-a-suit event.
	Let's reach out to Mr. Butler.
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	We put it onto mugs as well.
	The mugshot on the mug and a yard sign.
	Yeah.
	Do you know what happened to me?
	I didn't even mention this.
	It happened, I think, on Tuesday.
	My wife is involved in door knocking.
	So she's got 900 homes in Northern Virginia where she's going around and trying to activate people for the Virginia elections.
	Every seat in the Senate, every seat in the House is up for grabs.
	Huge election next month.
	And we put the local candidates' yard signs outside our house.
	It's not a Trump yard sign, okay?
	It's just local candidates like, you know, county supervisor, school board, senate, what have you.
	They were all stolen.
	Stolen.
	Stunning.
	That's who the left are.
	Stealing local election yard signs.
	Maybe it's a sign of their desperation.
	Maybe they're being mugged by reality or maybe they're being mugged in reality.
	Congressman Henry Quaylar of Texas was carjacked on Monday and he's getting a little bit vocal.
	Here he is talking about Biden and what he's hiding.
	This is Cut 12, Congressman Henry Quayler.
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	This administration is doing some deportations, but they don't show them.
	They're afraid to show people going back, like President Obama, Secretary Jeh Johnson did.
	You gotta show repercussions, and you gotta show video of people going back, and not just streaming across over here.
	Why do you think they're afraid to show the repercussions?
	Why do you think they're afraid to show people being deported and going back?
	That's a good question, isn't it?
	Why?
	Why would they actually be deporting people in quiet, under cover of night, but not showing it to anyone?
	Because it means that after two and a half years, the narrative has broken.
	Remember what we discussed already with Jim.
	They're building a part of the wall Why are they building a part of the wall?
	I thought walls were racist.
	We were told that anybody who wants to build a wall is a bigot.
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	♪♪ See things you people wouldn't believe.
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	Oh no.
	Is that on your knees?
	My name's Stanley Goodspeed.
	I'm a chemical weapons specialist for the FBI.
	Uh, glass or plastic?
	What?
	Glass or plastic?
	Glass or plastic?!
	Because if the winds change, after you launch those rockets, we're all gonna die!
	Shut up!
	And you're gonna end up in either a glass jar or a plastic bag!
	So what do you say you do the math, hand over the gun, and let's go find some rockets!
	I said shut up!
	You made the right choice.
	I decided I didn't want your child growing up without a father.
	Hey, the last time I swam this channel, I was your age.
	Glass or p-p-p-plastic?
	Just the way Nicolas Cage delivers that line.
	This is a movie that's very special to me.
	It is, of course, The Rock, with Sean Connery and Nicolas Cage as an ensemble cast.
	Who chose this movie?
	Was it you, Chris Coles, my co-host for Making Movies Great Again?
	I believe that it was.
	What a superb choice.
	Yeah, well, thank you, thank you.
	This is a kind of a sequel, right?
	It's like a spiritual sequel, as we call it, right?
	Not just of Escape from Alcatraz, which we watched together a couple weeks ago, but also of the James Bond series.
	There's a sort of a wink and a nod to the James Bond character.
	And I think it's just a lot of fun.
	It's just a great movie.
	We will get to the James Bond theories, conspiracies, and what Sean brings to the table with regards to this movie.
	A movie which, let me just get a little personal here.
	This is just a flipping good movie.
	I was already smiling That opening that you helped create for us for Making Movies Great Again always puts me in the right mood.
	And just thinking about this movie puts me in the right mood.
	Why?
	Because 29 years ago, I met this lady.
	Her name was Catherine Cornell.
	And we very quickly fell in love, that is from 1994.
	We were married in the summer of 1996 in Hungary on her birthday and then, right after our wedding, We had a honeymoon, and we had it in Portugal.
	There we are in Portugal, in the poussadas of Portugal.
	And one of the last things we did once we made it to Lisbon is, in Portugal, with Portuguese subtitles, we watched El Roquido the Rock.
	And it was bloody good then on my honeymoon, and it was bloody good this morning as I was finishing it with my wife on the couch today.
	So, a great, great choice.
	Very dear to my heart.
	Chris this is this is what movies should be like okay I mean it's Michael Bay's what it's his second movie after bad boys and it's got the Bay you know the bigness the kind of music video visuals but it's I mean even Siskel and Ebert love this movie Chris Yeah, it was just a heck of a lot of fun.
	And it's not just a Michael Bay film.
	It's, you know, a Bruckheimer film as well.
	If people don't know who Jerry Bruckheimer is, he's a very famous producer in Hollywood.
	And he tends to put his stamp on a lot of films.
	There's like rock and roll, guitar music.
	There's always, you know, big explosions and everything like this.
	And let me just say, I've met Sebastian Gorka's wife.
	She is the kind of woman, I just want to throw this out there, she is the kind of woman that you go, how did you get that?
	Right?
	Still to this day, very beautiful woman, a very charming woman, very delightful woman, very sophisticated woman.
	So well done, Sebastian Gorka.
	You are a smooth bar steward, as we say in England, and I know very, very well that I'm married up.
	Not a question, not a doubt in my mind, so thank you kindly, and she is my muse, and she is the boss that makes everything possible.
	Let's just summarize.
	We don't usually do this, but let's just summarize it for those who haven't seen the movie.
	Filmed on Alcatraz, by the way, a rogue Marine Corps general who had members of his unit killed and not recognized, not any kind of recognition or rewards for the families left behind.
	As a result, he goes rogue, tries to blackmail The U.S.
	government by taking hostages on the Rock, the tourists, and General Hummel demands millions of dollars for the families of those who died in one of these covert missions and, well, they have to stop him.
	And who has to stop him?
	An unfortunate geek It is, of course, Stanley Goodspeed from the FBI, the chemical weapons specialist, played by Nicolas Cage, and then the one man who escaped from Alcatraz.
	The man known as John Mason.
	MI6 agent, SAS former trooper, who managed to liberate the secret files of J. Edgar Hoover, and was locked away on Alcatraz, and then escaped, and he has to teach them how to get back in.
	Let's talk about the casting.
	Originally, they wanted Arnold Schwarzenegger as the lead here.
	What an absolute garbage choice that would have been.
	He rejected the script, which had to be worked over very heavily, but I don't know.
	Sean Connery, Nicolas Cage.
	I have a soft spot for Nicolas Cage.
	I don't know if you do.
	But Sean Connery, I'm sorry, the second this face, even at his age, comes on the screen, it's like this giant super magnet.
	You just have to stare at this dude.
	And I'm sorry, he's the coolest guy on the planet.
	Coolest guy on the planet.
	And that opening shot, especially what was really this was such an iconic movie when it came out.
	Even the trailer, even the clips that came up before the film.
	When he first comes down that corridor and he's got this hair.
	It's a grunge thing.
	It's a grunge thing.
	That's what they kept saying in the film.
	But if you see that in the trailer and you're just like, that's Sean Connery.
	Sean Connery looks, you know, there's like the monster within, you know, you can kind of see it sort of emanating there, glowing out of Sean Connery.
	And you think, because every man has a sort of animalism To them.
	Deep down inside.
	And every once in a while you catch a glimpse of it.
	And whatever the team did, hair and makeup, to Sean Connery to sort of expose that.
	And that he agreed!
	That the man who played 007 agreed to be seen on camera like that before he gets his hair cut.
	I mean, and just the Let's describe the character he's just he does he just doesn't give a fig he just wants to get out of there and run away as soon as possible and just the phlegma just his phlegmatic I don't give a toss attitude but at the same time being the the meanest toughest scariest dude on the rock I mean it's just it's Sean at his height
	Oh, absolutely.
	And the way that they talk about him is very smart.
	They do the same thing in Sons of the Lambs with Hannibal Lecter.
	Basically, you don't necessarily, you don't have to see Sean Connery do anything impressive at the beginning of this film, because everybody else is talking about him as if he's some kind of a legend.
	Right.
	And it builds him up so much that anything he does, you think, well, it's not actually going to Suffice like it's not going to actually be able to justify what they say.
	And yet they were able to write scenes that were so cool.
	You think, OK, yeah, they built them up correctly.
	There's a great scene where he throws a rope around a guy's arm and then throws him over a building and Nicholas Cage, who he can escape.
	So many beautiful moments in this film where this character does cool things and you think, okay, yeah, this is the badass that they said he was.
	So they sell it to you, but then they actually deliver on the promise.
	Yeah, they back it up.
	That scene where he throws FBI director Womack over the balcony of the Fairmont Hotel, which by the way, they didn't prep the locals for in San Francisco and they thought actually a guy was dangling off the balcony of the Fairmont Hotel.
	Much of the script is so good, there were real issues with the script eventually.
	Lots of arguments in arbitration, who was responsible for which parts.
	Sean Connery went to two legends of film and TV writing in the UK, Dick Clement and Ian Lafrenne.
	And he said, you have got to make my dialogue the coolest dialogue.
	And in fact, those two British writers who'd worked with legends like Peter Sellers, who'd worked with Ronnie Barker on the TV show Porridge, they ended up doing a lot of the dialogue, which explains why it's just so incredibly snappy.
	We're talking The Rock with Sean Connery and Nicolas Cage.
	And my co-host, he's almost as famous as both of them.
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	What exactly does this stuff do?
	Keep the rocket runners at aerosol and can take out the entire city of people.
	Really?
	And what happens if you drop one?
	Happily, it'll just wipe out you and me.
	Oh.
	It's a cholinesterase inhibitor.
	Stops the brain from sending nerve messages down the spinal cord within 30 seconds.
	Any epidermal exposure or inhalation and you'll know.
	Twinge at the small of your back as the poison seizes your nervous system.
	Do not move that!
	Your muscles freeze.
	You can't breathe.
	You spasm so hard you break your own back and spit your guts out.
	But that's after your skin melts off.
	Oh, my God.
	The weapons expert from the FBI, the chemist, the PhD, Stanley Goodspeed, explaining the dangers of the nerve agent.
	There's quite a controversial story regarding this movie and the depiction of nerve agents.
	The British government was found flat-footed because one of their so-called sources with regards to the Iraqi weapons program, the WMDs, described what he had seen in an Iraqi facility with glass vials full of the nerve agent, and afterwards somebody said, That sounds like the movie The Rock and that was all made up.
	You don't store chemical agents in glass balls like that.
	That's straight up out of Hollywood.
	Turns out the so-called saucy agent was just making stuff up and he was basically stealing the visuals from the movie.
	So art imitating life or rather life imitating art.
	Chris, let's talk about a little bit trepidatious.
	Do you like Nicolas Cage?
	I absolutely hate Nicolas Cage.
	I can't stand him.
	Let me tell you what.
	Despite my hatred of Nicolas Cage, there's a few movies I don't hate him in.
	And this is one of them.
	And let me say, I actually think this is Nicolas Cage's best ever performance.
	Which is one of the reasons why I hate Nicolas Cage, because he did so well in this film, so well, that subsequent to this film, they kept casting him as an action hero.
	Right.
	And I'm sorry, the whole point of this movie, the character, was that Nicolas Cage was a nerd.
	That scene that we just saw there, that was the first moment of confidence that Nicolas Cage had since the beginning of the film, when he was in a room with a bunch of nerds.
	This guy is totally out of his element.
	He can't handle a gun.
	He doesn't know how to punch somebody or take a punch.
	He doesn't know how to do any of this stuff.
	All these bad asses, alpha guys are running around and he's just going, Oh, I don't know what to do.
	I didn't know what to do.
	And then he has to deal with this nerve agent.
	And suddenly he is the expert.
	He's confident.
	He's the bad ass.
	And Sean Connery is a little bit scared, which is a nice flip, right?
	Nice turn.
	Really good for the story.
	And then there's a moment where he has to pull a gun and shoot a guy when he's on top of Sean Connery's character.
	And that's sort of the moment when it changes and he actually sort of kind of gains this ability to be a bit of a badass.
	Right, the first time he has to kill anybody.
	Exactly.
	And then he can do that.
	And then he's so it's sort of a redemptive moment, but that's his story arc, right?
	And it's a great story arc.
	But it doesn't really turn Nicolas Cage into like a quintessential action hero.
	But apparently everybody in Hollywood thought it did because then they kept casting him as action heroes for years after that.
	But is that why you don't like him?
	Because they miscast him after this movie?
	Yes.
	Absolutely.
	That's a little harsh, Chris Coles.
	I know.
	I know.
	But I've also seen him in interviews talk about how seriously he takes acting.
	And I'm like, dude, you're playing make-believe for money.
	Like, relax.
	Can you at least give him credit for changing his name to Cage from Coppola because he didn't want to be accused of nepotism?
	It's serious!
	Well, no, I mean, he didn't want to be accused of nepotism.
	That doesn't mean the nepotism didn't help him.
	Well, he didn't exactly start at the top of the, you know, Hollywood chain with, you know, movies about, you know, one-armed pizza makers.
	I mean, seriously, I think he worked for his craft, don't you think?
	You're right, but he wasn't that group of guys that was, you know, moving up the food chain there in Hollywood at that time.
	He was friends with all the guys.
	But he's not the best, most charismatic actor.
	He is probably the most enthusiastic actor I've ever seen.
	This is true.
	I'm sorry, there's nobody alive today.
	As they're locked up in the cells after they've been caught.
	And Sean Connery refuses to tell him how he escaped from the cell the first time as he's actually, you know, working the levers.
	There's no other actor who can deliver the line, in the name of Zeus's butthole, tell me how you got out of here.
	I mean, that's a hard line.
	If you were given a script that said, in the name of Zeus's butthole, it would be a challenge to deliver that, don't you think?
	I personally, I could do it.
	But yeah, no, for most actors, for sure.
	No, honestly, Nicolas Cage in this film is excellent.
	Honestly, not sure I would have ever cast anyone else.
	He is so unbelievably perfect.
	And you know what?
	He delivers most of the comedic lines.
	Yes.
	And he does it lawlessly.
	I'm not even sure they were all scripted because he delivers them so well.
	It actually feels like it was a compulsive utterance.
	Right.
	You know, he does it very well.
	No, he is.
	From the first moment where you see them inside FBI headquarters in, you know, the chemical weapons lab, and what are they doing as the film opens?
	They're shooting each other with water pistols, right?
	These are the super nerds inside the FBI with their water pistols.
	What about Ed Harris?
	I've always had issues with Ed Harris ever since I bumped into him in a restaurant in L.A., and it was while he was making the Pollock movie, and he was fully dressed As Pollock, with paint splattered pants and shoes, and I felt like saying, dude, you're an actor.
	Leave the costume at the studio.
	What do you think about his portrayal of General Hummel?
	Well, I've got to say, I don't really know anything about Ed Harris in real life.
	I don't know what his political views are or his personal views are, but he does have, he's a very lucky man.
	He has a very interesting face.
	I mean, he looks exactly like what who this character is supposed to be.
	Right.
	You know what I mean?
	Like this character, it was almost like it was tailor made for Ed Harris.
	Every line is delivered perfectly.
	I mean, you you're kind of scared of him.
	You know what I mean?
	Like you just walk into the room and it's like he's a little bit intimidating.
	But he's yeah, he's exactly the guy he's supposed to be for this role.
	And he does an absolutely perfect job.
	It's really strange when films are cast absolutely perfectly like it's We watch a lot of those films on this show because, you know, we're trying to watch the classics and stuff like that.
	But in the whole sort of library of cinema that exists, it's incredibly rare.
	But when it does happen, it creates a classic like this.
	Yeah, it's something that's often overlooked, the importance of the casting director.
	Because you can really destroy a film, or you can make a film by just picking the right actors for the right roles.
	Well, you've got to understand, in the last probably 10 years, we've shifted away from a merit-based system in Hollywood, right?
	We used to cast the appropriate actor for the role.
	We used to cast good actors, charismatic actors, what I like to call watchable people, people who are watchable on film.
	We don't do that anymore.
	Now who do we cast?
	We cast, you know, the black girl with red hair and freckles because she's kind of unusual looking.
	The lesbian or whatever, right, right, right.
	No, absolutely.
	A Hispanic lesbian because she's a Hispanic lesbian, not because she's a good actor.
	Are you talking about the Vice President of the United States?
	Just behave.
	Just behave, Chris Coles.
	The point is just that it's diversity kills quality.
	Well, talent.
	And it's exactly as you say.
	It's the watchability or the Q coefficient, the Q factor.
	An actor with presence That's undeniable.
	Utterly undeniable.
	And these actors have it.
	It is, of course, The Rock.
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	That's my whole name.
	I thought I'd been in the service a long time.
	Name and rank, sailor.
	How are we, actually?
	Answer the question, and address him as General, sir.
	Captain John Patrick Mason.
	General, sir.
	Upper Majesties.
	Yes, yes.
	Retired, of course.
	You're a long way from home, Captain.
	How the hell are you involved in this?
	Oh, I have a unique knowledge of this prison facility.
	I was, uh, formerly a guest here.
	Did they bother to tell you who I am, why I'm doing this, or are they just using you like they do everybody else?
	I don't quite see how you cherish the memory of the dead by...
	Killing another million.
	And, uh, this is not combat.
	It's an act of lunacy, General, sir.
	The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
	Thomas Jefferson.
	Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious, according to Oscar Wilde.
	Thank you for making my party.
	See, there's something about this movie, the standoff between General Hummel and John Mason, the Sean Connery character, that puts it in a completely different category, Chris, from just the straight-on action, fast and furious kind of movies.
	Why?
	Because there are subtexts.
	There is substance in this film.
	There's talk of what?
	Duty, honor, patriotism, revenge, and also the idea of corruption inside government and what do you do in response to that corruption if you are part of that government.
	So I think this is one of the reasons this movie It's deemed by the likes of serious critics to be a classic because it's not just whiz-bang, it has some meat to it.
	Oh yeah, I mean...
	It's interesting that now we're sort of really exposing a lot of government corruption, whereas back then, I think people did perceive that there was probably corruption, sort of hypothetically, they imagined there was stuff like that going on, but it wasn't really exposed in any big way.
	We didn't even know the term the deep state.
	That didn't really exist as a thing in America.
	So it's really kind of interesting to watch this film now.
	What people were writing as fiction back then seems to be very much true today.
	I mean, the specifics of this corruption are, you know, obviously very different than the corruption that we're seeing today.
	But the fact that they're looking at it and saying, look, our government isn't super clean, our government does have a lot of corruption in it.
	I think that that was that's very sort of You know, prophetic part of this movie.
	And yeah, they do it really, really well.
	And like you said, the writing is excellent.
	I would say that a lot of the pacing of this film and a lot of the action and the big explosions and how almost sort of cartoonish this film feels sometimes did kind of evolve into films like Fast and Furious and stuff like that.
	I actually really like those those movies because they're just simple popcorn movies.
	You don't have to think too much.
	That's a classification of film that I think is actually a good, like a fair, Classification of film to write and to make it to make money on.
	But you're right.
	This does have a depth that is, I think, far more rich than a lot of the kind of like fun popcorn films that you would see today.
	And you may not even notice if you're just watching the explosions and the action.
	And I mean, how cool is it to see Sean Connery in a modern day action film with machine guns, punching out bad guys.
	It's just, it's a, just a cool movie, you know?
	Yeah, it is.
	And I think it's, it's the height of Michael Bay, ironically, even though it's only the second movie he made after bad boys, because then Yeah, I think you're right.
	I mean, at least for me, this is probably my favorite ever Michael Bay film.
	and he kind of becomes a prisoner of his own style.
	The flashiness takes over.
	And then finally, he reverted back with 13 Hours, the story of Benghazi.
	So where do you rate this in his filmography?
	Yeah, I think you're right.
	I mean, at least for me, this is probably my favorite ever Michael Bay film.
	But again, this was a film that was perfect for its time.
	Like, the time that this movie came out, there wasn't, there hadn't been anything really like it.
	Now, Michael Bay's style has been, I think, copied quite a bit.
	And he himself has become, like you said, almost a caricature of his own films.
	And he really relies on the computer graphics and Ninja Turtles and Transformers and these kinds of movies.
	You know, I don't want to say they're silly, but they're definitely like, they're kind of cartoons, actual cartoons.
	Whereas this, yeah, there's some cartoony type elements, but he took it really seriously, he tried really hard, and he made something that, like you said, a lot of people consider this to be truly, like, a really great, truly great film.
	Well, we'll give you some of the quotes of what the critics think of the movie as we rate it.
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	Stand by the door until I open it.
	I'd like to know how you plan on accomplishing that.
	Through here.
	I memorized the timing.
	I just hope it hasn't been changed.
	Have a nice day.
	Where'd you dig up this guy?
	Express.
	Just that, you know, he's just opening a door.
	I mean, you're an actor, you're a writer, you know Hollywood.
	Can you explain this to me, Chris Coles?
	How does a man, okay, you know, he's pretty handsome, but how does a man opening a door and saying, welcome to the Rock, how does that become that iconic, Chris?
	What is it about that man?
	I know, yes.
	You know, it's funny that that clip came out before the film.
	And this is back when the Internet was very, very, you know, primitive, primitive Internet.
	And it took you maybe a day to download a movie clip.
	And I downloaded this clip off the Internet.
	And I must have watched this clip like 30 times before going to see this movie.
	So I had all these lines.
	Memorized, you know, I memorized the timing, you know, where'd you dig up this guy?
	That's classified.
	I had that, that would run in my head just randomly at school and stuff, you know, because I watched it so many times.
	I just loved this clip.
	Yeah.
	You know, there's something about the camera moving in the lighting, you know, how cool looking Sean Connery looks and yeah, just the way he delivers the line.
	Welcome to the rock.
	Just perfect.
	Everything is perfect in that scene.
	It's almost as good as Asta La Vista Baby.
	I think Asta La Vista Baby might be the greatest one-liner of all time, but this is probably right up there in maybe the top 10.
	But what is it?
	Because, OK, I'm a product of my childhood, and I was watching the Sean Connery Bond movies on reruns on TV as a kid in the 70s.
	But I don't think it's just me.
	There's something about I mean, he takes his work very seriously.
	If you talk to actors who've worked with the late Sean Connery, he was a very serious dude.
	He took the work seriously.
	I mean, what actor hires behind the scenes scriptwriters from his home country to improve his lines in the movie?
	What actor does that?
	I mean, or there's this famous story, if you watch the making of in the documentaries, Disney was on Michael Bay's case And they were giving him a really hard time.
	And one day, he left the set, and Sean said, where are you going?
	I got to go see the Disney execs.
	I'm in trouble.
	What did Sean do?
	Sean said, hang on a second, changed out of his golf clothes, and went with Bay to the meeting with the Disney execs, and stood there behind Bay, and backed him up all the way until the Disney execs stood down.
	Wow.
	From the craft work aspect, what is it about this actor?
	Yeah, you know, it's interesting because Sean Connery, later in his career, he started picking some bad scripts.
	Yes.
	And he skipped out on a couple of movies that ended up being really big films.
	And I think he said in an interview once, he's like, yeah, I just don't know.
	I just don't know anymore what makes a good script.
	Because scripts had kind of changed, you know, in the 2000s.
	And he kind of just was like, I'm kind of done with acting.
	But because, you know, I think you really care.
	You really care that the movies that he was in, you know, they did well, you know, that he did his best, not just as an actor, but helping to craft the film into what it needed to be.
	And that's probably kind of an old school value.
	Hollywood, everything is so bifurcated and like you have this job and you have it's all just divided.
	Every everybody's got their own little job.
	But, you know, every once in a while, somebody can come in and take charge.
	I remember when I used to do auditions.
	They used to have a chair there sometimes and the chair would indicate that you should sit.
	And I always just thought, you know what?
	I'm not going to sit.
	I'm going to stand or I'm going to maybe I'll turn the chair around, you know, or something like that.
	I'll just do what I want with the chair.
	Maybe I'll sit if I want to sit.
	But like you have to take charge of that moment in order to have the confidence to express yourself the way you need to express for the audition.
	So that you get the role.
	And that usually worked for me.
	And I told other actors to do it and it usually helped them a little bit.
	I think Sean Connery took that to an extreme, right?
	He was just like, you know, not only am I going to, you know, dominate the room when I'm acting and, you know, when I'm talking to people about the film, but, you know, throughout the production process, I'm going to make sure that, you know, this goes the way I need it to go.
	And obviously it worked out really well.
	And also he was very dedicated to his homeland after he made his first Bond movies.
	A lot of his money, a lot of his, you know, pay for the movies he made went straight into his foundation for education of Scottish children.
	So this is a guy who was a man on a mission.
	What's your take?
	Clearly, you know, it's Sean, so you're always going to think of 007.
	But what do you think of this fan theory that John Mason is in fact Commander Bond, and he was captured by the Americans and locked away because he just knew too much.
	There are people who believe this on the internet, Chris.
	But look, this is obviously what they're alluding to in the film.
	You know, they're teasing you with this, right?
	Whether or not that was, you can say that's really the story of James Bond or not, I mean, you know.
	You can believe what you want to believe in this particular scenario.
	This is obviously not Ian Fleming's vision of what was going to happen to James Bond, but it's just a bit of fun for this film.
	If you want to think this is what happened to James Bond whilst watching this film, I don't see any problem with that.
	Is that the real conclusion to the life of James Bond?
	You know.
	Probably not how Ian Fleming would have written it, no.
	Are you saddened that it was confirmed there was a plan in 2016 for a sequel about Mason and about Goodspeed and the microfilm, but they finally nixed the sequel?
	Are you saddened there was no Rock 2?
	This is the first I'm hearing of it, and yes, I am devastated.
	Thank you for ruining my night, Sebastian Gorka.
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	I mean, in the name of Zeus's butthole, we are going to declassify all of that.
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	Come on.
	Come on, I don't need the gun.
	Put it down.
	Come on.
	Let's go.
	Come on.
	Come on.
	I don't need the gun.
	Put it down.
	Let's play.
	Come on.
	I think we got started off on the wrong foot.
	Stan Goodspeed, FBI.
	Let's talk music.
	Do you like the Elton John song, Rocket Man?
	Well, I only bring it up because it's you.
	You're the Rocket Man.
	No!
	No!
	The Rocket Man moment from The Rock with the Candyman, Tony Todd, who would later go on to be a, well, a fixture of
	Hollywood horror movies playing the Candyman.
	One more person I want to recognize before we move on, rate this movie and pick next week is David Morse, Major Baxter, the one good Marine who backs up the General when he says, I'm not going to kill all of those people.
	Oh, and Michael Biehn.
	The SEAL commander who gets killed very early on in the movie.
	I have one issue with this movie.
	The casting of the Marines, or rather the script.
	I know Marines.
	It's my favorite service.
	Don't tell the others.
	I spent two and a half years of my life teaching the Marines at Quantico.
	The idea of these, you know, insubordinate junior officers lying around, boots on the table, talking back to their general.
	I just...
	That's the point at which my credibility or my suspension of belief is a little bit endangered.
	Is there anything that for you kind of took you out of the moment for this movie?
	Oh, no, I mean, it's not... I don't think it's a movie that's supposed to be taken super seriously all the time, you know?
	Right.
	There's a lot of explosions that don't make any sense, like a car gets hit and it just explodes like crazy, you know?
	There's a lot of, like, things that you think... Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	When an electric-powered streetcar flies into the air, you're telling me that's not realistic physics, Chris?
	No, there's a few things in this movie that you kind of go, all right, that's very sort of 90s, you know, action movie, but it's OK.
	And by the way, the score for this film, the score from the very moment this movie starts is just absolutely epic.
	It's beautiful.
	Let me just throw this out there, though, because this is something I've always found interesting about this film in particular.
	This is one of those weird movies that breaks a very important rule of this kind of genre of filmmaking.
	There is no real villain in this film.
	Ooh.
	Interesting.
	You have to have an antagonist, don't you?
	The Candyman actor kind of becomes an antagonist to Ed Harris.
	But Ed Harris is actually a sort of a fake villain.
	He's not really a villain.
	No, he's not.
	He's a man who has a conscience and says, what does he say eventually?
	They called my bluff.
	I wasn't going to kill anybody.
	Right?
	That's right.
	He's still a Marine.
	And from the very beginning, what he's doing is honorable.
	He's trying to do the right thing.
	Yes, yes.
	And he shows at the end that he is actually a good man.
	And so it's just a bunch of people playing chess.
	There's no real villain.
	There's an antagonist, as you say.
	But there's no villain.
	So what does that mean?
	Does that mean that rule can sometimes be bent?
	That you've got to have a bad guy?
	Yeah, all the rules can really be broken completely.
	I mean, it just depends on what you want to do.
	People always say, like, you know, you need a lot of, what are they, like, bickering and arguing and what are they called?
	Conflict is the word.
	They always say conflict, conflict, conflict.
	That's a Hollywood thing.
	But if you look at a movie like, say, Harry Potter, the first film, the vast majority of that film is a film of exploration.
	They're exploring... It's world building.
	Yeah, it's world building.
	It's world building.
	And it's an absolutely beautiful experience.
	Kids love that movie, you know?
	But they don't have so much conflict in that film.
	They do a little bit at the beginning, and then obviously they do have a lot of it at the end of that film.
	But throughout a lot of it, it's just world building and exploration, learning to fly the broom and all this kind of stuff, exposing kids to a sort of new magical world.
	And that works perfectly well.
	So a lot of these rules can be bent.
	They can be broken.
	And, you know, you should learn the rules first before you break them.
	But yeah, if you can if you can write something spectacular that doesn't follow the rules, definitely do it, because sometimes it ends up like the rock.
	Chris Cole's rule of movie making number one.
	You can break the rules, but know them first.
	Let's talk about the iconography of this movie.
	Did it strike you that at the end, when he ignites the flares and he puts them out to stop the bombers napalming the whole building, the Christ-like imagery, is that less than subtle?
	It's a little less than subtle.
	They actually do it twice, because after he stabs himself in the heart, With the with the medicine.
	He lies on the ground like that.
	And there's the price like imagery.
	They do it again.
	But you know what?
	It's just I don't know if they were really trying to.
	They must have been.
	I mean, it's so obvious to say.
	But but it just looks so gosh darn cinematic.
	I mean, look, that's a nominal cinematography.
	Well, and then the explosion and as these iconic shots.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Then the explosion.
	And then the moment at the end, by the way, this is probably my favorite moment in the movie, because it's this moment that you don't But it's just perfect.
	It's that kind of perfect little moment that you want, where they say, you know, what happened to Sean Connery's character?
	What happened to Mason?
	And he looks up at Sean Connery's character, Mason, and he goes, uh, you know, he didn't make it.
	He's dead.
	Right.
	And then the lovely line when Wong Mack, the director, you know, says, show me his body!
	And he said, It was vaporized.
	And the director of the FBI says, can bodies do that?
	And the scientist says, yes, of course bodies can be vaporized if I don't want you to know where he went.
	A superb, superb ending.
	Yeah, we salute, we salute, we salute the music of the movie.
	Hans Zimmer, absolutely superb.
	A little bit of Druthers.
	What else do we need to know?
	60, 65 million.
	The idea, I mean, 65 million dollars today is nothing to make a movie.
	The cost for a Sean Connery, Nicolas Cage, Michael Bay movie, unbelievable, was $65 million and it grossed $335 million.
	I love the part where Sean Connery meets his daughter.
	I think that's the Museum of Fine Art.
	It's a beautiful building in downtown San Francisco.
	I went there because I'm such a geek for this movie, just so I could do some selfies there.
	And lastly, we have to rate it.
	And I think, what do we rate this movie out of?
	Do we rate it out of flares?
	10 out of 10 flares?
	Is there a better metric?
	Oh yeah, green flares.
	It was green flares.
	Green flares!
	Which is weird, because when the sniper says, he says green smoke at the end.
	No, it's green flares, dude.
	Green flares.
	Alright, so you rate this movie for an audience today.
	I'm gonna rate it in the big scheme of things.
	OK, I'm not sure how you would not like this film, to be perfectly honest, but I do think it's a very specific audience.
	I think it's going to be guys.
	I think it's going to be guys that aren't Democrats.
	So, you know, I mean, it's hard to say.
	Some people will probably think it's a little bit silly, but if you can watch it from beginning to end, it is such an epic film.
	It's such an epic film.
	It's got to be a nine, right?
	It's got to be a nine.
	It's got to be a nine in the panoply of great movies.
	I think I'm going to.
	I'm gonna give it a nine and a half.
	I'm sorry.
	Oh, wow.
	Just listen to this.
	Criterion.
	Criterion, which is like for the geek, movie buff, arthouse guys.
	The film was released in a limited DVD on Criterion.
	Criterion.
	Wow.
	Which said the following.
	They categorized it as an important classic of contemporary films and cinema at its finest.
	Robert Ebert, who didn't like Michael Bay, gave it three and a half out of four stars, calling it an action picture that rises to the top of the genre because of a literate, witty screenplay and skilled craftsmanship in the direction and special effects.
	So if they can give it that high rating, I'm going to give it nine and a half.
	Well done, guys.
	Watch it if you haven't seen it in a while.
	If you haven't, bloody well watch it tonight.
	We have been celebrating The Rock with Sean Connery and Nicolas Cage.
	Next up, it is a movie that I have seen, I don't know, a hundred times and every time it takes me to a emotional edge because it's so well written, acted and photographed.
	It has an amazing director of photography.
	I suggest for our next Making Movies Great Again, the original Murder on the Orient Express, Chris.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm looking forward to this.
	I have never seen this film.
	Wow.
	You... I'm not going to say anything.
	This is personal for me.
	I can predict you right now what rating I'm going to give it.
	Chris is going to have the delightful experience of watching it for the first time and maybe you too.
	In the meantime... My favorite train film is The Lady Vanishes, which I think is probably Hitchcock's best film.
	Super.
	Super.
	Very much of a similar genre, but I think you'll find this is even better.
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