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I think we're doing this already because we've got brand new additions to our social media team.
Thank you, Salem!
There's two lovely ladies who've come on board as a result of their recommendations and the increased horsepower we now have.
We are posting the third... Is this true?
Are we... Eric, are we posting the third hour of the show on Twitter?
We are indeed.
Twitter or X, as some may say.
Are you used to the X thing yet, Eric?
The logo is actually pretty cool, so I'm getting used to it.
The logo's pretty cool, but what do you call a post on X, Eric?
For now, it's just called a post.
But I'm sure Elon will come up with something really clever.
Yeah, I think it's always going to be Twitter for some of us.
We post the third hour!
Because now, Elon's made it possible to use Twitter as a video platform.
Therefore, for those of you in those, what do they call them, food deserts for good radio, the third hour will be available, if you follow me, on social media.
So, go to Twitter!
I can't see the screen from this position, but I'm going to assume it just completely filled up.
Alex, are these all of your buddies?
What's going on?
I can't see the screen from this position, but I'm going to assume it just completely
filled up.
It's full.
We're what, we're like, what are we, three minutes in?
It's insane.
Well, Alex, are these all of your buddies?
Did you ask them to just call in?
These are all my friends, Dr. G.
Well, Don in LA, he's everybody's friend.
He's a patriot.
All right, I think we might have to take some calls in the A Block.
But if you want to get the third hour, follow us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Parler, Instagram, you know, follow us everywhere.
And don't forget the Salem News Channel app, where you can watch all three hours.
And my Substack for articles by me and access to me, sebastiangawker.substack.com.
Yeah, let's take some calls because I haven't made enough time for calls all week because the news cycle has been nuts and because we've had so many great guests.
But let's have some fun before we start with line one.
What happens when you combine, in a blender, evil with arrogant?
Yeah, someone called Hillary Clinton who's explaining about President Trump going to prison and pardons.
Just listen to this woman.
Cut one.
He recently said that he is very unlikely, it would be very unlikely that he would attempt to pardon himself.
Do you believe him?
I don't believe him on anything.
Why would I start believing him on that?
You know, the thing about him, and I'm not the only person who's noticed this, is he engages in what psychologists call projection.
So whenever he accuses somebody else of doing something, It's almost guaranteed he's doing it himself or he's already done it.
Or whenever he denies thinking about doing something or doing it, it's almost guaranteed he is thinking about it or he's already done it.
Unlike you, who just commits the crimes and then blames somebody else.
That's not projection, is it?
Just the way she said that.
He is doing something that psychologists call projection.
Oh, I've never heard of that.
I thought that was like movies.
You know, like they have film, and there's a light, and the pictures move in front of the light, and then there's a screen in the movie theater.
You arrogant sack of human excrementillery.
You're the criminal.
And you should be in prison.
Let's go to your calls!
Don, Los Angeles, line one.
Let's go down the numbers.
Dr. G, Rolling Thunder on the right.
How are you today?
I'm good.
I'm being a little bit of a rebel.
I'm taking calls at the top of the show.
What do you think?
Is this a dangerous move, Don?
It's dangerous, but it's right up your alley.
Danger is your business.
We know that.
All right.
What is your topic?
What are you going to share with us, my friend?
Well, really quickly, I wish I'd copy down.
I'll find it.
There was this brilliant, cogent, concise article in that very slim volume National Defense magazine.
It's very high-tech and all this stuff.
But this gentleman said he used to be a lecturer at the Taiwan Defense Institute.
He has a Chinese surname, just from memory.
I think it's Jiao, J-I-A-O, or something like that.
But it was brilliant, and it was all focused on The military structure.
He says that it doesn't matter how much hardware we give them if they don't get a professional officer corps.
Right.
You know, he was saying that these are like a bunch of old mustache peeps that want to refight the Chinese Civil War, the one they lost.
You know, and he's saying they need to get up to date.
I believe he said there's something like 300 to 500 American officers being sent over there to do just that, to, you know, try to get them up to date.
Hopefully they're not infecting them with Millie-like wokeism.
I hope not.
Yeah, I hope not.
I doubt that.
But real quickly, I'll find the reference.
Yeah.
But also, real quick, I know it's Friday Ask Dr. G Anything Day very quickly.
I was just wondering, I was just going to suggest we were talking about you maybe getting involved in your martial arts training again.
I would recommend a weapons art like something like Kendo or Kenjutsu.
You know what I'm really hankering in for years?
I don't even know how to pronounce it, but AI.
The art of drawing a Japanese sword.
Oh, E-I.
E-I.
E-I.
E-I Jutsu, E-I Do.
Yeah, the art of drawing a Japanese sword.
I just find that so beautiful.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, if you find someone that can teach you that, that's the doorway to anything you need to know.
Would I get the Dawn Seal of Approval if I did that?
Oh, absolutely.
With clusters.
All right.
I love it.
Stay on the line.
I want the details.
Share the details of that article.
I need to read that.
Give them to Jeff.
Let's squeeze in one more called Harry Atlanta.
Yeah, that person, that woman, Hillary, is proof that their evil exists in the world.
That's not what I called about.
What I called about was to ask you, when you had COVID before and during, what was the prophylactic that doctor you liked?
Oh, easy!
It was right at the beginning.
I caught it in the December and I was taking one hydroxy a week and as a result, once I caught it, I took the full Z-Pak hydroxy protocol from my doctor.
We need to get him back on the show.
And Harry, I was Three days with a mild flu.
I had the sniffles, I felt a little bit tired, but because I'd been taking hydroxy, which screws with the capacity of the virus and the spike cell to really get into your body's cells, I was like, three days later, I was right as rain.
So hydroxy, even one pill, just one pill a week right now, hugely beneficial.
The, you know, former or mainly a malaria drug.
And then the Z-Pac, you know, cocktail once I actually caught it.
So great question.
Let's get Dr. Pappas back on the show.
Don't go anywhere.
Robert William Dale will get to you after our first guest.
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Titles.
For that... Oh, you want to post that?
No, no, no.
For the thing... What did I write down?
I wrote something down.
Ouch.
You wrote ouch down?
No, sorry.
I whacked my mic.
Don't whack your mic.
I can't believe you called it X. I thought you liked the dead name, Eric.
Well, I mean... Yeah, how come you're not dead now?
Did I leave my sheet out there?
In front of Guy?
Check the papers there.
With writing on it that's not yours?
No, okay.
Okay.
I just left my hours somewhere.
You want me to look in the, like, break room or whatever that's called?
Oh, it might be in the little green room here, yeah.
Oh, look.
Hello, hello?
Hello.
Hi, is that Diane?
It is.
Hi, greetings, welcome.
Thank you.
Did you think I was gonna keep my promise?
Did you doubt me?
Oh well I... I...
I'm not sure what I'm doing here.
you you
you You're listening to America First with Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump.
Welcome back, dear friends.
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All right, let's get to a very interesting guest.
As I discussed to you, I was at a very secret conclave on Sunday talking to some people who are patriots and one lady I met there who has an amazing, when I looked up her CV, Her curriculum vitae, her resume in media, my oh my.
She's done everything.
TV, radio, print journalism, you name it.
But now she's an expert in a topic that now and again pops up into the media with the likes of Britney Spears scandals and what have you.
But nobody really knows anything about it.
I didn't.
But she does.
She's written a book about it.
The book is We're Here to Help and she is Diane Diamond.
When guardianship goes wrong.
Diane, wonderful to meet you last weekend.
Let's jump straight in with a topic that Americans should know more about because guardianship is an amazingly powerful tool that seems to be more and more abused.
First things first, give us a little bit of the fascinating history.
Why was it originally invented?
With what purpose?
Well, guardianship has been around for a long time and it is a state run program.
in all the states across the country that protects at-risk people, citizens who need help,
elderly people, people with disabilities, maybe someone who's had a temporary traumatic brain
injury. If they cannot care for themselves and they're in danger, then the state jumps in
and supplies them with a guardian.
And the idea is that this person who's vulnerable, maybe just temporarily, shouldn't be abused, should be protected, and should have their wealth, you know, intact, correct?
Right, exactly.
It is to protect them and help them live their life safely.
And then... That's not what it's become, however.
That's not what it's become.
And the first question I asked you, and it was a shocking answer, is Who decides that somebody's rights are kind of taken over?
What level, what burden of proof is there?
And who gets to decide that, oops, yes, we agree with the father, the manager, or whatever, you are now in guardianship.
How complicated is that process?
Not complicated at all.
Anybody can get a lawyer to draw up a petition, a petition for guardianship against somebody else.
That's taken to a judge.
In a particular court, it's called an equity court, where the judges can do pretty much whatever they want.
There's no due process.
There's no guarantee for a trial.
And it's the judge who decides.
And usually, I discovered after investigating for about eight years this topic, judges look at these petitions and they mostly just rubber stamp them.
If it's given to a judge by a lawyer, an officer of the court, they just believe everything that's in the petition.
And many of them contain lots of exaggerations and sometimes just downright lies.
And talk to us about the fact that it seems to be more and more abused and the fact that the people who have the greatest power, the judges, don't seem to be doing the right thing very often.
Well, they don't supervise their court appointees.
Somebody will go to court and say, you know, my mother is elderly.
I want to be her guardian.
But once they get to court, I discovered judges more and more routinely don't appoint a member of the family.
They appoint a for-profit stranger to come in and run the person's life.
As with Britney Spears, she had a complete stranger come in and run her life as a co-guardian with her father.
So, you know, every year, states guardianize people and confiscate wards money, their estates, to the tune of $50 billion.
$50 billion every year is taken away from these people who need protection,
and some of them really do need protection.
And the control of it is handed over to total strangers.
They're not licensed, and most of them are not certified to do what they're doing.
And lest we think this is just, you know, about Michael Jackson or Britney Spears, and you broke the story about Michael Jackson, by the way, people need to know that.
It isn't just about famous people and their managers.
You've got a couple of cases from Texas and New York that are truly shocking.
Would you give us a little bit of an insight?
I'll give you two real quick.
One from Texas was a mechanic.
He did work for a very wealthy man, an elderly man who had memory problems and wasn't paying his bills.
So the mechanic went to a lawyer and said, what can I do?
The lawyer said, oh, go for guardianship.
And this mechanic One guardianship over a multimillionaire in his state.
Because the millionaire was forgetful, hadn't paid him a few thousand dollars, the car mechanic gets control of the millionaire's estate.
Yep, yep.
It took his family, the millionaire's family, a couple of years to undo that and lots and lots of money.
Most people don't escape guardianship once they're in.
And then give us another example.
Real quick, there are In several states, Pennsylvania, Florida, New York, and others, there are divorce attorneys that are telling husbands, you know, your wife is not being cooperative in this divorce, so let's just guardianize her.
Because you see, when people are guardianized, Sebastian, they immediately lose all their civil rights.
They can't hire a lawyer to defend them.
They can't sign a contract or vote or get married or anything.
So divorce attorneys are suggesting to husbands Let's just guardianize your wife.
What?
She's kind of crazy, right?
And the judges buy it.
And there's no jury involved.
There's no scientific process.
The judge just says, yeah, OK, you take away your wife's civil rights.
Yeah.
Now, sometimes they'll order a psychiatric consult.
But it's amazing how these guardians and the lawyers and the psychiatric consultants and they all sort of feed off each other's business and fees.
And so Who's gonna say, oh yeah, no, the woman isn't crazy?
Well, I hope we didn't give any bad guys any ideas.
Educate yourself!
I didn't even know guardian could be a verb until four minutes ago.
Guardianize!
Educate yourself!
The book is We're Here to Help When Guardianship Goes Wrong by our guest Diane Diamond.
DianeDiamond.com to find out much, much more.
And follow her, Di Diamond.
And it's spelt a little bit differently.
D-I-M-O-N-D.
So it's Di, D-I, Diamond, D-I-M-O-N-D on Twitter, or X, and DianeDiamond.com.
Thank you, Diane.
We will explore at greater length another time.
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my Substack, sebastiangorker.substack.com When I was like a kid.
She, she, she used to co-host a show with, uh, uh, Geraldo.
I remember.
Really?
Yeah, and then she was a guest host on Fox and Friends in the, uh, and it's like, in the weekends.
Huh.
And no idea.
She is, uh... I used to watch Hard Copy when I'd get home from school to get the recap of the OJ trial.
And she was on it then.
And, you know, she broke the Michael Jackson story.
Really?
Yep.
Yep.
That's insane.
Yep.
Alright, titles for Dave and for that.
Um...
Guardian, the, uh, the guardianship weapon.
It's not just Britney Spears.
And Professor.
Um, what did I write down?
Killing God.
Killing God, alright.
Alright, and can you put that thing on the screen with all the genders?
Um, let me find it.
There it is.
Oh yeah, that's legible.
Okay, that's much better.
Definitely better, yeah.
Davis?
Where is this?
Davis Joint Unified School District.
Where the heck is that?
Not UC Davis in California.
Where is it?
Oh, it's Davis.
Yeah, Davis, California.
It is!
Oh boy.
I almost went to school there.
Imagine what would have happened.
You would have come out totally woke with 16 genders.
Or maybe I could have been the ultimate disruptor.
I don't know.
Alright, let's get to work.
Alright, let's get to work.
You can block.
Ready.
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Making sense out of today's nonsense, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
He's back!
Potato Head is back!
And they've given him a job at Vanity Fair.
I thought Vanity Fair... Isn't Vanity Fair about like fashion stuff and people who look really pretty?
Brian Stelter works for the beautiful people?
How strange.
He's back on MSNBC and um... I don't think he gets what Fox is about.
Cut three!
I don't like to say this, but I think the reality about Fox these days, this is not true ten years ago, but it's true today, is that the people in charge of Fox are the viewers.
The audience programs Fox.
Not Rupert Murdoch, not Laughlin Murdoch.
It's the audience.
And that feedback loop every day, the more extreme programming, the more rageful, hateful programming, it's almost as if the audience is in charge now because of the leadership vacuum that you're describing where there's nobody at the captainship actually running the ship.
I think that's a reaction to Rupert Murdoch basically retiring.
He's become chairman of the board emeritus at Fox.
He's handed it all over to his lefty son Lachlan.
Here's another take that's actually closer to the truth from Greg Kelly.
We love Greg Kelly from Newsmax being interviewed by somebody else on Newsmax.
Our other friend Eric Bolling.
Let's listen.
His take.
Cut to.
To assess Rupert Murdoch's seven-decade career that reshaped the media landscape is host of Greg Kelly Reports.
Our friend, Greg Kelly.
Greg, what are your thoughts?
Well, give us a general thought on Rupert or his retirement or the general direction of Fox.
Take it away, my friend.
Well, number one, he's not dead, all right?
Today it sounds like he died or something like that.
The testimonials, the retrospectives, I mean, he's still alive and that's fine, right?
Look, I don't like the direction Fox News has taken, especially in 2020, those ridiculous calls, especially the one about Arizona.
And I don't like the way the Murdochs treated Roger Ailes.
Yeah, that's why Newsmax is booming and Fox is dying.
They're in big, big trouble.
Don't forget my show.
It's going to be a doozy this Sunday.
Every Sunday, the Gawker Reality Check.
Oh my gosh, they've already put it on the Chiron.
How did they do that?
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In the meantime, we've got to go to your... Oh, Jeff, what do you think?
Now that Rupert's gone, what do you think?
How long do you give Fox?
Um, it's got to get even worse, I think.
Yes!
Remember Lachlan's wife, was that the one I remember celebrating the day after?
Yeah.
I think they're going to bring back the Trump ban again.
I think that's going to happen.
Trump ban.
They just, how do you kill...
The goose that lays the golden egg.
I mean, they were making $5 billion a year in their heyday.
It's just going to go all down the tubes.
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Happy Friday!
Hi, it's Robert.
Thanks for taking my call.
A couple of points.
One is about Washington and Jefferson, and the other is about the budget.
It's very muffled.
Can you hold the phone slightly further away from your mouth?
Oh, okay, sure.
Can you hear me now?
Much better.
Much better.
Yeah.
Yeah, just a couple of points.
One is about Washington and Jefferson, and the other one is about the budget.
So, what I just wanted to mention was that, you know, this attack, and I'm in New York, against the Washington, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, the monument.
The statues, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just want to point out, you know, in the name of slavery, because you don't hear any of them attacking China, the slavery in China or Sudan, or the trafficking that's elucidated in the Sound of Freedom, or the mutilation of the kids.
The only thing they're attacking, Washington and Jefferson, is really an attack on the Constitution and especially the Bill of Rights.
And even the Third Amendment, you know, they're throwing senior citizens out of senior centers and they're replacing them with illegals.
That's pretty close to violating the Third Amendment, too.
They're violating everything.
And, you know, the other point is about the budget.
You know, Donald Trump, Wednesday night, he very eloquently posted on Truth Social, quote, that Republicans In Congress, can and must defund all aspects of crooked Joe Biden's weaponized government that refuses to close the border and shoots half the country as enemies of the state.
And it goes on.
And Donald Trump is 100% right.
And actually, you know, Donald Trump and Gates and Victoria Sparks, they're somewhat liberal compared to me.
As far as I'm concerned, this government has been weaponized against the people, and as Victoria Sparks compared them to the KGB, As far as I'm concerned, they should be getting one penny.
You could argue that when we give one penny to our federal government, that's like being a collaborator to the Nazis and the KGB.
Look, I couldn't agree more.
Everything, think about it, Robin, everything from the IRS to the FBI has been weaponized.
And if the House Has one power.
It has the power of the purse.
Couldn't agree more.
More of your course here in a moment.
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Okay, and the second hour?
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The Christie cuts are pretty great.
Yeah, just long to come in with that.
Oh, yeah.
What's four?
Oh, yeah.
Nikki Haley's short.
That's pretty funny.
Yeah, come in with that.
Come in with cut four.
Nikki Haley and her terrible mic.
Hope she didn't pay for that mic.
I sent you another B-roll.
I got it.
I'm gonna tee that one up.
The other one you can just start running while I'm interviewing the guest.
Alrighty.
Okay.
You He was the right president at the right time.
He was thin-skinned and easily distracted.
He didn't do anything on fiscal policy and really spent a lot of money and we're all paying the price for it.
He used to be good on foreign policy and now he has started to walk it back and get weak in the knees when it comes to Ukraine.
Weak at the knees?
Yeah, right, Nikki.
What's with that microphone?
Can't she afford a good microphone?
I'm curious.
Hey, Jeff, wasn't Nikki Haley a member of the Trump cabinet?
Yes, she was.
How come she didn't criticize him for the last two years, and now she criticizes him in New Hampshire?
I'm confused.
In the last two years, why didn't she say that?
Because she's really trying to become the second place person.
That's what they're all in a race for, to see who's going to be second place in the primary.
But isn't that, like, dishonorable?
I mean, either you thought those things and didn't say them, or you're just lying now.
I think you're being confused that she's a politician, and that's what politicians do.
And the other thing, why does she have to have that big security guy standing right next to her?
Well, if you have eight people in the room, if you have nine, it looks a little better, I think.
It looks like there's more people there.
Well, especially if it's a big guy, right?
Yeah, exactly.
That's so embarrassing, Nicky!
How's your buddy, John Brennan?
Yeah, I love posting that photograph after she left the Trump administration.
Yucking it up, hanging out with John Brennan.
You know, the guy who ran the CIA for Obama.
You know, the guy who voted for Gus Hall, the communist candidate for the presidency before he joined the CIA.
How does somebody vote for the Communist Party of America and then get hired by the CIA?
Yeah, I think you know.
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Let's go to New York!
William, welcome.
Hi, afternoon.
About half a century ago I learned some military history at the hands of a retired or former Hungarian army general who was a professor at Sydney University in New York.
Béla Király, I do believe you're talking about.
Have you ever met him?
I met him not long before he passed.
Oh, fantastic fellow.
Now, 20 years after that I was doing a war game at Marine Corps University and I forget exactly what that was
all about but I think that was before your arrival this was 1995. Yeah I
arrived at just before I started working for President Trump so 2014 a little bit
later. Okay my question has to do with Eastern Europe. Yeah. And I believe it's the
Visegrad Pact which was a grouping of several Eastern European countries.
Yeah, Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic, and Slovakia.
The Visegrad Group, yeah.
Right.
Does it have potential as a major political, economic, and military alliance with NATO falling apart, the WEU getting more corrupt?
Oh my gosh, I haven't heard the phrase WEU for years.
My gosh, most people have no idea.
Look, interesting question does the Visegrad grouping.
It has potential as a kernel of some sanity inside the EU and a kernel of some leadership inside NATO.
If you look at what Poland has done with regards to the Ukraine war.
No nation outside of America has done more for the Ukrainians because they know, the Poles know that they are next.
And then if you look at what Hungary has done to, you know, cock a snook at the commies in Brussels when it comes to the EU.
Yeah, but it's basically a discussion forum for some of the good guys inside the EU.
So what's your background?
Are you a Marine, William?
In my non-illustrious youth in college I was, but the Marine Corps had the wisdom to kick me out and the Navy sucked me in and I eventually turned out doing 30 years and my last 10 was at a small Navy school on the shores of Narragansett Bay where we put on a war game down at Marine Corps University.
So the Marines kicked you out and the Navy picked you up.
They saw that I had ADD and they realized I would not make a very good Lieutenant of Marines in Vietnam.
Well, that's a wonderful throwback.
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Let's go to Dale in Detroit!
Got a couple of us, got a couple quick suggestions for your making movies.
Great.
Go ahead.
I've got my pen out.
Tell me.
And then a favorite airplane suggestion.
You talked about that a couple of weeks ago.
All right.
We got, we got 60 seconds.
Hit me.
Go ahead, Dale.
I've had problems where I've tried to get some liberal friends of mine to listen to your making movies hour, but they can't because it's on your podcast.
I was wondering if you could move it to its own making movies,
bringing in podcasts so it's own those episodes.
That's a good idea.
And we're thinking of actually posting it as a video channel.
But give it, oh, you're not giving me movie suggestions.
You're giving me technical suggestions.
Exactly.
And the second one is to look up the Cisco and Ebert, how they rated those movies.
Most of those that you're doing, that was their era.
Yes.
And you'd be surprised, some of those had some thumbs down.
I know, I know.
We might do that.
We might do the, compare them to Siskel and Ebert.
Okay, quickly, airplanes.
Okay, quick clue.
We are poor new lambs who have lost our way.
Bah, bah, bah.
You know what I'm talking about?
Help me out.
All right.
And is it one of your favorites, Dale?
Because of that show.
I grew up on that show.
I think you dated yourself there.
Stay on the line, Dale.
Let's give Dale a signed copy of Why We Fight as well.
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What's a good cut?
We did one, Nicky.
Yeah, we've done all the first four cuts.
Okay.
Jean-Pierre, maybe?
Oh, play me cut.
Yeah, play me that.
Play five.
Play five for me.
What do you call it here at the White House when 10,000 people illegally cross the border in a single day?
So what do you call it, Peter, when GOP puts forth a... Wait, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
No, you can't.
I'm answering... Okay, we're gonna move on.
No, no, no, no.
No, no, no.
We're moving on.
In the back.
In the back.
No, no.
I tried to answer... Peter, I tried to answer the question.
You stopped me.
Let's go.
The smugness of it all.
She's a bachelorette now, though.
Remember?
I know!
That's why the color changed, I think.
Can you get me that other cut of her?
Yeah.
Wanna come in with that?
Come in with seven, and then we'll go to Kool's.
Seven... Krispy Kreme.
Krispy Kreme.
He He clearly sees you as a potential significant rival.
Right.
Well, you know, he said himself, Wilf, a few weeks ago, I only attack number two.
Well, he has stopped attacking Ron DeSantis and he started attacking me.
You and I have sat here before and had this conversation.
I told you that I was going to gain in this race.
We've seen it now in all the polling in New Hampshire.
I'm a second place in New Hampshire.
We are going to take on Donald Trump directly.
And he doesn't like it when he's taken on directly and he's confronted.
He really, Eric, he really, Krispy Kreme thinks he's number two.
He seems to... He always quotes Iowa.
Who cares about Iowa?
Does he know there's like 51 other, you know, 49 other states?
Does he know that?
I almost did an Obama there.
Oh my gosh.
Matt's probably not in his strong suit, but he also seems to be not realizing there's a fine line between a genuine attack, as if this person is a threat, and then just dunking on him, which is what Trump is doing on a regular basis.
Oh, I see what you did there.
Krispy Kremes dunking.
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Very nice.
And Jeff, what's with the CNN Branded paper cup on the desk.
I know, and not only that, that's not good for the environment.
The regular thing would be a mug.
Can't they afford?
Should we send Rolf Blitzer one of our LGBTQ mugs?
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That's not the comment, though, sir.
Uh-huh.
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That's fine.
I'll make it fast.
Robert Menendez of New Jersey, the senator?
Yes.
Yes.
They're all worried about $385,000 in his house.
What about the $20 million that With the Biden crime family.
I know, I know.
They charged Senator Menendez for corruption over a couple of gold bars and a luxury car.
Oh, and by the way, what was the thing they dropped the charges on?
He had sex with underage prostitutes in Colombia.
Oh, weird how now they're catching.
You nailed it, Matt.
A couple of gold bars.
1.4 billion from China for Hunter's company.
How many gold bars is that?
I think it's a little bit more than two and a sports car.
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I got a crazy cut from Kamala, but first, I love libs of TikTok.
Can we just give libs of TikTok some kind of massive big award?
She found this and posted it today.
This is an email she received from a parent whose child goes to school in California, and this is from a class at one of the schools in the Davis Joint Unified School District.
Why do they have such communist names?
Joint Unified District.
I mean, seriously, can we just, like, school board, okay?
And it's a directive for how to teach about genders in class.
Did you know how many genders there are in class?
Because this is what they're being taught in California.
There's like 17 of them here.
Can I read you some of them?
IN GENDER.
A tri-gender person defines their gender identity in a third category, which is situated in between man and woman.
What does that even mean?
Pangender.
Pangender is a term for people who feel they cannot be labeled as female or male.
You mean they need to have psychiatric assistance?
Or how about this one?
Two-spirit.
In the Native American culture, a person who embodies both masculine and feminine qualities.
This is being taught in the schools of America.
At least in California.
I think this is going to be one of the biggest issues in the next election.
The transgender insanity.
All right, let's get back to the Second Amendment.
Relax!
The gun problem in Democrat cities and states has been solved.
Just listen to the current Vice President of the United States.
Hey everybody, so I have some big news to share.
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So we're going to work on this together.
We're going to continue to fight for reasonable gun safety laws and for the ability of all people to live their best lives free from fear, free from violence.
It's all solved.
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We can relax now because there's a White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention.
It's done.
It's finished.
You know, I was really worried about our country.
I was really worried about what's happening in the schools, as you read.
But now, Kamala Harris said it's cool.
So, just like the border.
Right?
Oh, yes, because she's the Borders Arena.
And it's all excellent.
It's fixed.
Things are great at the border.
We have none.
Things are really good.
Now, Mazel Tov, we don't have a border.
Do you think she's going to send that video to the people in Chicago and Baltimore and Detroit?
And they'll say, oh, well, this weekend we'll be safe.
It's going to be cool because the Vice President Kamala Harris has got it all taken care of because she did a video.
Why didn't we think of that?
I mean, Eric Adams could have just done, we have a New York office, the mayor's office of gun violence prevention.
And illegal immigrants.
And it would be fixed, right?
Illegal immigrants, right.
I think actually the answer the Democrats have come up with is you just create an office for everything.
And it could be just one office, office of illegal immigrants.
Gun violence.
Inflation.
Drugs.
Inflation.
China policy.
And once you have the office, you see Sebastian.
It all goes away.
Why did we miss this?
You know what this reminds me of?
Do you remember this?
I got in trouble.
Mainstream media hated this.
Do you remember after the election?
Let's put this image up.
We have an image from... Alex has it.
After the election, they created this.
Do you remember?
The Office of the President-Elect.
And I gave a comment.
Who was it?
You sent me this article, Alex.
Reuters didn't like what I thought about it.
And I said, Gawker tweeted the word liar above this new logo.
and wrote, Beijing Joe Biden's team really thinks you're dumb.
As a former member of a real presidential transition team, I assure you there is no such thing
in America as office of president-elect.
Until the electoral college votes in December, it's all to play for.
They're lying.
But I guess if you put a nice logo on the podium, it's done.
You don't have to do anything.
See, Sebastian, you could just do logos and videos, and then you pretend.
And then, well, just like Joe pretends to get up every morning, he pretends to be president and pretends to know where he is.
I've been hearing consistently that, I mean, all joking aside, that even what you see at the public events that's horrible, behind the scenes, it's even a worse disaster.
But I like that version.
It's like the Truman Show.
He thinks he's president.
The UN thing was one of the most embarrassing performances by a supposed world leader.
Alleged.
In world history.
Have you ever seen a superpower leader go out there, and you look at all these guys, and they're all like, uh, what's happening?
It literally is out of a movie, like the Dictator, one of those movies, you know?
Yeah, like Cheshire Baron Cohen.
Cheshire Baron Cohen.
Right, right, right.
But it's real life!
It's real life, which makes it even scarier.
Alright, let's talk about what's really scary.
You mentioned the border.
She is allegedly In charge of the board.
No, don't worry.
She's got plenty of time because that video only took three hours.
She's got a lot of time.
She can go down to the board and fix it.
Alright, so this is the mayor of Eagle Pass.
His name is Rolando Salinas and he's being interviewed on CNN.
It's CNN, right?
Is it CNN?
And there's something weird that they left out of the Chiron.
Allegedly.
CNN plus, not so much.
There's something weird they left out of the mayor's description in the lower third.
But let's listen to what this man has to say about what, well really, Kamala has helped to cause.
Cut six.
I'll be honest with you.
I believe 100% he does bear some responsibility for this crisis.
I haven't heard from anybody in the administration.
The president hasn't put out a statement.
The vice president, I haven't heard from anybody.
Nobody has bothered to call me.
Anyone in the city staff saying, hey, this is the federal government.
We know what you're going through.
We're worried about you.
This is our plan of action.
Nothing.
We're here abandoned.
We're on the border.
We're asking for help.
This is unacceptable.
Please, just enforce the laws that are on the books.
We're a nation of laws.
That's all I ask for, is that it shouldn't be like this.
You know, it's weird that it says they're mayor, Salinas, but it doesn't say afterwards, D. And it's a Democrat.
It's a Democrat.
And he's calling out Biden.
He's got thousands of people crossing.
He doesn't even get a call from the White House, Boris.
But Ukraine!
Oh, sorry, Ukraine.
But hang on, hang on.
Their border is inviolate.
We've got to make sure that's secure.
Right, right.
A bunch of names of cities nobody can pronounce except probably you and me.
But seriously, this isn't sarcasm, right?
But seriously, we've got a minute left in this segment.
We'll keep you up.
This is going to be an issue for them in the elections.
Of course.
That's an issue.
Lying to the American people is an issue.
Completely ignoring Maui is an issue.
I think they're starting to see it because this was actually a pretty different reception for Zelensky than last time.
They're still sort of trying to put on a show.
We have got to put America first.
No pun intended.
We have got to put this country first.
We've got to put Mayor Salinas first.
We've got to put our people first and secure this country.
Because right now, it's the farthest thing from secure.
And all jokes aside, videos aren't going to solve it.
We need to enforce the laws in the books, as the Mayor said.
Let's be very open here.
It's about the safety of all Americans.
It doesn't matter who you vote for.
If you're living in New York right now, if you're living in Texas, safety of your family, your children, is being endangered by this administration.
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.
You want to see this other cut?
Yeah, play it.
How many people coming into this country illegally is enough for President Biden?
Say that last one?
How many people illegally coming into the United States is enough for President Biden?
Enough for what?
5.9 million people have been encountered illegally.
I know the numbers, but enough for what?
Just to stop the flood.
As I mentioned, this is a problem that's been around for some time now, for decades.
A broken system.
All right, we're gonna play that.
We'll play that first, then I'll tee up the second one.
All right.
And then we'll do a bit of Krispy Kreme.
You'll tee up which one, sorry?
I'll tee up both of them.
Both?
Oh, yeah, fine.
Actually, what have we got at the top here?
This is B. We've got car.
No, we've got my pillow.
Yeah, because you're gonna do car and E. All right, play that at the top, that one.
Ten.
I'll do my pillow, then I'll tee up the one that's on the cut sheet, and then we'll go to the Baron.
Do you want the phones open for C, or do you want to do that lunatic guy that we've been trying to?
Thank you.
What?
The comic guy?
Alan Moore.
Oh yeah, let's do Alan Moore.
Yeah, no calls.
Oh, you've got B-roll of Moore, right?
Yeah, I got some.
So come in with cut ten.
Then I'll do my pillow, then I'll tee up... Cut ten, correct, then I'll tee up five.
And then five, okay.
Okay.
here the
the the
How many people coming into this country illegally is enough for President Biden?
Say that last one?
How many people illegally coming into the United States is enough for President Biden?
Enough for what?
5.9 million people have been encountered illegally.
I know the numbers, but enough for what?
Enough just to stop the flood.
As I mentioned, this is a problem that's been around for some time now, for decades.
A broken system.
She's getting a little annoyed!
It's a very simple question, Cringe Jean-Pierre, as my friend Chris Plante calls her.
Cringe.
How many is enough?
I mean, clearly six million isn't enough, because you've already let them in and they still have open borders.
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Baron, I'm sure you saw this cut going viral.
My former Fox colleague, Peter Doocy, asking Corinne a kind of easy question, really.
Play cut.
What do you call it here at the White House when 10,000 people illegally cross the border in a single day?
So what do you call it, Peter, when GOP puts forth a... Wait, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
No, you can't.
I'm answering... Okay, we're gonna move on.
No, no, no, no.
No, no, no.
We're moving on.
In the back.
In the back.
No, no.
I tried to answer... Peter, I tried to answer the question.
You stopped me.
Let's go.
Isn't she the press secretary, Barron?
No, no, no.
It's CNN.
She's a... Right, right.
She probably gets a check from CNN.
You never know.
Here's the reality.
It's like every day in our lives is like the opposite world.
Yeah.
Bizarro world.
Bizarro world.
And it'd be funny if it weren't so terrible and scary.
Right.
This is Saturday Night Live, but it's real.
And Peter's asking the right question.
Peter's a small guy.
He's asking the right question.
It's simple.
What do you refer to this invasion as?
We know what it is.
But what do you refer to it as?
She can't answer.
Oh, wow.
What are you?
GOP.
GOP.
That's called whataboutism, okay?
You're the press secretary, answer the question.
But they can't answer because they have no idea what they're doing on any...
And then on the first clip, the problem's been around for a while.
Yeah, except it's 15 times worse and President Trump had it stopped.
And you and your pathetic boss, your pathetic boss, who doesn't know where he is, crooked
Joe Biden, he ruined it.
Now listen, you're a campaign maven, you've done this for years.
This is going to be huge for them in the election.
The border thing is now unavoidable.
If you're getting Eric Adams complaining, if you're getting Democrat mayors in Texas saying, the White House isn't even calling me, could this be the biggest, outside of the economy, could this be the biggest problem?
No doubt about it, because it impacts the economy too, right?
Every town, a border town, like our friend Steve Bannon says, This issue, it crosses everything.
It's all over the country.
It's all over economic.
All demographics.
Demographics.
It's all over backgrounds.
African American, Hispanic American.
It's everybody's impacted by the fact that we don't have a border.
And I honestly praise God every single day that we haven't had a huge terrorist attack caused by the fact that we're letting in anybody into this country.
And I'm sad to say this, unfortunately that time is coming.
We have no idea who is coming in.
We have no idea what's in the backpacks.
We don't know.
Our Irish buddy is listening to the show.
He texted me.
I love this.
You know that new White House Office of Gun Prevention?
Donaka says, how about a White House office against drugs in cupboards?
Nicely done.
Love that Irish sense of humor.
All right, let's stay on the economy for a second.
I was just looking at the figures.
So, as of this morning, I posted the breaking news on my Twitter and my Truth Social.
So, the UAW strike has now Expanded to the people who work in the parts industry, which adds 38 more locations that are striking.
And in the first seven days, Barron, this has caused the manufacturing car industry $1.6 billion in seven days.
President Trump's next rally is going to be with these guys.
I mean, I don't know who came up with that.
If you came up with that with somebody, this is genius, totally genius.
Again, this is self-destructing.
There's no leadership.
There's no leadership.
Usually, what would be happening right now is you would have a real president.
What will President Trump do when he's back in office?
Sit down!
Sit down!
Let's bring him in.
Let's figure it out.
President Trump is heading to Detroit next week, again, to show that he is the leader that will continue to solve problems for our country and all across the world, because the current occupant of the White House can't even come close to doing any of it.
It's going to be a great event, and the President is going to lay out everything he achieved on the economy, and everything that he will achieve once back in office.
Yeah, I'm so excited.
He's also going to California soon, I think, as well.
If you look at the Iowa events, if you look at the absolute support and fervor for President Trump, it's unparalleled, and it's obviously reflecting on the polls.
Can we end on a funny note?
Let's do it.
Or let's have a little bit of Krispy Kreme, as we like to say.
This is Chris Christie.
Cut it.
I'm the only one on that stage who is unwilling to raise my hand beside Asa Hutchinson and say I wouldn't support a convicted felon for President of the United States.
He doesn't like when people stand up to him and call him out on the nonsense that he's involved in.
I guess he had a bad night last night.
Maybe he had some bad Chinese food or something, Wolf.
But at 11.30 at night, a little indigestion decided to attack me.
Keep it coming, Donald.
And by the way, if he had any guts, He'd get on the debate stage, and he's got things to say about me?
Stop hiding behind your social media site, your failed social media site, Donald, and start taking me on directly.
Show up.
Stop being a coward.
When you weigh 350 pounds, you probably shouldn't talk about food in Chinese food.
And guts.
And guts.
And also, how has this site failed if that's all you're talking about?
Right.
Oh, this site that I don't ever read, except I was reading it all last night and I'm obsessed about it.
And by the way, I'm a big round 2% in the polls.
And just address this idea that he's, that President Trump is the coward.
Who's the coward?
Chris Christie's going on CNN.
CNN!
He's at 2%.
He's talking to the liberals.
He's attacking the leader of the Republican Party, the leader of the MAGA movement, the leader of our country.
And he's taking pot shots.
And let's just be honest, all Chris Christie is, is just a spurned former employee who's bitter.
That's all.
He's bitter because he wanted to get any job in the government.
President Trump didn't give him the job because he wasn't qualified for them, and now here he is.
Well, you know what?
We see what the American people think about him, what they think about Mike Pence, what they think about Ron DeSanctimonious.
They're all getting annihilated.
Let's just give Krispy Kreme a few numbers here.
He's got 800,000 followers on Twitter.
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Eric, this story was like what?
Like four days old and I just ran out of time?
I think you wanted the story last week actually, but there's been so much in the news lately it kind of got buried.
So I'm a bit of a nerd when it comes to comic books and stuff like that, especially science fiction, and there's a handful of big names in the industry.
There's one guy who's been behind huge Titles in the modern age of... What should we call them?
Uh, graphic novels.
Like The Watchmen.
Have you heard of that?
V for Vendetta!
Oh my gosh.
The Swamp Thing.
And then... The Killing Joke.
Batman and The Killing Joke.
What is the name that unifies all of them?
It's a British comic creator called Alan Moore.
And he just made a big announcement.
This is from the Daily Wire.
Amanda Harding, the 69-year-old author, best known for his works on Watchmen, V for Vendetta, The Ballad of Halo Jones, The Swamp Thing, Batman, The Killing Joke, and From Hell.
I forgot that one.
That's the one about Jack the Ripper.
Typically avoids public appearances, but shared some of his thoughts in an interview with The Telegraph.
This comic writer no longer wants his name associated with any big screen adaptations of his work.
He previously shared his movie royalties with the film writers and creative types, but no more.
Here's the kicker.
This is a man who is rich beyond dreams.
Because of capitalism.
Because of the modern western state.
I no longer wish to even be shared with them.
I don't, what a weirdo, I don't really feel with the recent films that they have stood by what I assumed were their original principles.
Oh, I bet you didn't mind cashing the checks though.
Moore told the newspaper, I have asked therefore DC Comics to send all of the money from any future TV series or films to Wait for it.
What do you think?
Refugees?
Single mothers?
Pregnancy crisis centers?
Oh, how about cancer research?
That'd be great, wouldn't it?
Alan Moore, the creator of V for Vendetta, Batman the Killing Joke, and Watchmen wants all of his royalties to be given to... Black Lives Matter!
I guess they need money to, what, burn more churches down?
Continue to destroy the nuclear family?
I wonder if he's read those stories about the heads, Patrisse Cullors and her fellow, quote, trained Marxist.
That's what she said about herself, right, and her friend.
I wonder if she heard the news about her multiple mansions.
I guess Alan Moore thinks they need another mansion.
Just another useful idiot.
They're so, such navel-gazing cretins.
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I'm not sure that's going to placate the people of Chicago who've had it with actually the small number of illegals that have overrun that city.
I'm curious, Alex, do you think lots of tents on the streets of Chicago are going to make the Democrats suddenly popular?
Uh, no, I do not think so.
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They might as well have just gone for buying them houses at this rate.
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The great Clint Eastwood.
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Seen things group people wouldn't believe.
See the things you people wouldn't believe.
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In the If you disobey the rules of society, they send you to prison.
If you disobey the rules of the prison, they send you to us.
Alcatraz is not like any other prison in the United States.
Here, every inmate is confined alone to an individual cell.
Unlike my predecessors, Wardens Johnson and Blackwell, I don't have good conduct programs.
I do not have inmate councils.
Inmates here have no say in what they do.
They do as they're told.
You're not permitted to have newspapers or magazines carrying news.
Knowledge of the outside world is what we tell you.
From this day on, your world ...will be everything that happens in this building.
The Rock Alcatraz.
And the man who, with his colleagues, apparently, allegedly, escaped.
He looks a lot like Clint Eastwood.
Let's make movies great again with our buddy, the co-host, the host of the superb channels, the Alpha Critic and the Mr. Reagan channel on YouTube, Chris Coles.
Welcome, my friend.
Great to be here as always, Seb.
First question.
Have you been to The Rock?
I never have actually.
I've been to San Francisco.
I never went.
You must!
You must go to The Rock.
I've been a couple of times.
It is, and the wardens there, they have like, you know, the park, you know, wardens are superb.
Give you amazing tours.
You've got the audio guides.
You can go into one of the cells, check out the library and everything else.
So guys, if you're on the West Coast, if you're near San Francisco, I would recommend a visit to The Rock.
Okay, more importantly... And they have the heads, right?
They have the papier-mâché heads.
I think they do have the... Because this is real.
So this film is a dramatized version of the book by J. Campbell Bruce, published in 1962, about Frank Morris and his escape with two brothers.
Some of the names, some of the details, the name of the warden that you saw, Patrick McGowan, was changed as well.
But it's based upon the only...
Maybe successful escape.
But Chris, why did you pick... I don't think we've reviewed any Clint Eastwood movies, so why did we start with this one?
You know what's weird?
My father picked it.
Oh!
Tell us why.
I was just sitting on the couch and he goes, You know what you need to do next?
Escape from Alcatraz.
And I go, all right.
That was it.
That was it.
There's no reason whatsoever.
I mean, maybe there was some reason.
I can't remember.
But he just blurted it out.
And I thought, oh, I love that film.
It's a testament to how seriously you take our show here, Making Movies Great Again, that I was going to ask you the deep and meaningful place this movie has in your heart.
And now the answer is, yeah, the guy who sired me chose it.
All right.
Flip the question around a little bit if this wasn't seminal to your child.
This for me, I saw this as a kid on TV.
Really, you know, quite a seminal movie for me as a child.
Very different.
This was made what?
This was made eight years after Clint first arrived as Dirty Harry.
Very, very different from the Dirty Harry movie.
So tell us how you found it.
What did you think of Escape from Alcatraz?
Well, I'll tell you what, I also saw it whilst I was growing up as a kid several times, actually.
It was on TV all the time.
And I have to apologize for something.
On the TV version, there were some scenes that were cut out.
I do not remember so much male nudity.
In the shower block.
Oh, my God.
Like, I now know what Clint Eastwood looks like naked, that's for sure.
Male bottoms will be seen if you watch this movie.
Yeah, yeah, that was quite a shock.
I'm like, I don't remember this!
And then I don't know what happens in the TV versions.
There's one scene I desperately wanted to have on, Eric wanted to, and then we can't because of its profligate use of the N-word.
It's quite a good scene between the leader of the black prisoners and Clint Eastwood as they're sitting on the bleachers.
So, you know, maybe that was bleeped out on television as well.
Um, but you are- No, no, no, no.
When I was growing up, that scene was part of it.
Oh, really?
Without- And actually, that is- I reference that scene often, because to me, that is a very profound moment in cinema.
Because you've got to understand, like, today we look at that word as, like, the most evil word in the history of the world.
Right.
And we look at racial relations as this super delicate thing, you know?
But these two men, these two men are dear friends.
They meet and they instantly kind of hit it off.
And they don't hit it off In the way you would expect.
They hit it off by sort of jabbing each other back and forth.
Which is the way, right?
Which is how alpha males so often do it, right?
He is the king.
He actually says, are you the king of the hill?
Are you the king of the black inmates?
Nobody sits on his step.
And then he challenges him and says, there's only two reasons you didn't sit down next to me.
Either you hate n-words, Or you're afraid.
Which is it?
And he just, this beautiful kind of testosterone-laden joke, he sits down and says, yeah, I just hate N-words.
I mean, it's classic.
Could you imagine that in a film today, Chris?
Well, that's what I'm trying to say.
Like, this is in 79, right?
We had gone past the civil rights movement.
We're already in a period now where, you know, we're starting to look past that at a point in life where we do recognize that there are racial tensions.
But we get along.
This is before, you know, the crack epidemic of the 80s and, you know, the gang warfare got terribly out of control.
And it was a point where we were headed toward, you know, the Cosby Show and stuff like that.
I mean, the Cosby Show, obviously, in retrospect, is far worse than it was at the time.
But at the time, the Cosby Show was like, look, you know, we're all kind of human beings.
We can all be sophisticated and charming and live together and be happy.
And this is kind of like an instance of that where, you know, two hardened criminals become, you know, in a way, sort of best friends within the prison.
And I also have to say, this is, it's because of this movie that I actually hate another movie, and everybody's going to get mad at me for this, but it's true, Shawshank Redemption.
Because Shawshank Redemption- Hang on, hang on.
Is that even permitted?
Is that even permitted amongst actors and screenwriters to say that one hates I never got the adulation for the Shawshank Redemption or the Green Mile, but hate?
That's a strong word.
Please justify yourself, Mr. Coles.
Well, I don't I don't hate it on its merits.
It's fine.
Whatever.
But it's obviously a rip off of this movie.
And this is far superior.
So I love this movie.
Tim Robbins, fine guy.
But this movie is just far superior.
And who else is Morgan Freeman?
Obviously, everybody loves Morgan.
Yes.
But this is just a Not only do we have this scene that establishes the relationship in a very... I mean, just how many... It's such a masculine way.
You know, big guys.
This is how you deal with each other.
You have the, you know, the penis measuring contest.
You're both, you know, you both match up and then you're buddies.
And then it kind of returns.
There's this delicate moment as he's about to escape.
And, you know, there's a bit of hesitation.
This guy's not going with him.
He's not a part of the plot or the plan.
And he just reaches through the bars, and they shake hands, and he says, good luck.
They're buddies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a beautiful, touching moment.
And they also put a little twist in at the end where he's going to get shanked.
Yes!
Yes!
By the big dude who wants revenge, who wants him to be his catcher.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's a little weird.
You know, that sort of like prison love that they put into the to the story a little bit, you know, I think they wanted to capture the gritty reality of prison life.
I mean, these are, you know, obviously, these characters are not You know, the worst of the worst of the worst.
They're kind of like criminal gentlemen, if you will.
But but yeah, I think they wanted to capture the gritty reality of prison.
And to be honest, I think they did a pretty dang good job.
This is it's such a smart idea for a film, a prison escape film, because from beginning to end, it's just tension.
It's just suspense.
Everything they do from just like taking a fan and putting it in his accordion box.
Even something that simple builds suspense and you're worried they're gonna get caught every second of this film and it's just a brilliant movie.
Oh, that moment when he hides the fan from after the music recital and they search the bags and he does the quick switcheroo, yeah.
A very tense, a slow burn intention.
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All right, the entrance with the lightning.
Welcome to Alcatraz.
It's kind of like cheese.
You know, the lightning as he says, welcome, and as the gate closes to his cell.
But the first, I timed it.
I think it's seven minutes.
The ride on the little tugboat out to the island, the strip search, the medical check, and then, you know, being locked in.
This, this is not a happy movie, is it?
No, and it's a long intro.
Like I said about the realism earlier on that intro, you know, they used to do this really well in films.
They don't do it so much anymore.
They're just letting the cinematography speak for itself.
They're letting the production speak for itself.
They actually, it looks like they must have actually been shooting real things, right?
So, you know, sort of like a deliverance when we shot, you know, when they shot that they're really, you know, rafting down this river with in these canoes.
Excuse me, they were really doing these stunts and everything like that, and I feel like they just used a lot of the stuff that they would've used.
By the way, sorry, I almost forgot.
I was gonna do this earlier in the show, and I realized that there's a new dress code in America.
Really?
Nothing to do with the movie.
Yeah.
So, I'm just gonna... Oh!
Oh, you're doing the Fetterman etiquette, the Fetterman protocol.
That's right, see, because, like, you know, we're not allowed to...
You know, nobody needs to look good anymore.
But hang on, I need to know, are you wearing baggy shorts and trainers?
Yes.
Don't get me on a jack, because we've only got an hour to review this and I'm so pissed about this.
I was actually on Breitbart Radio yesterday.
I knew you would be.
I haven't even discussed this on the show because I could talk about this for hours.
I was on Breitbart yesterday, and the host said, you've got to have an opinion of this, because you're the only guy in radio who wears a suit and tie on radio, which is true.
I was the weirdo in college who wore a jacket and tie to most of my classes.
But yeah, Fetterman.
Here's my take, just for a hot minute.
You don't have to wear a suit and tie all the time.
I love to put on a pair of jeans and a casual shirt at the weekend.
I live in my jeans at the weekend.
But when you don't wear a suit, to places where it is applicable or make an effort, you're disrespecting other people.
It's like, you know, even the car mechanic, the guy who works with his hands, even the man who has a real job down a coal mine, would he go to the wedding of his son in his dungarees?
No, you are showing disrespect to other people when you do what Fetterman's doing.
I'm sorry.
You open that can of worms!
No, I know.
I'm sorry for distracting.
I just thought it was, you know, I want to give you an opportunity to talk about it.
And also, I just, I feel like we have degraded our standards in every level of American culture.
Yes.
And it's like, can we at least uphold them in some certain circumstances?
But no, we have to do this now.
So this is where we are, apparently.
Well, thank you for that little intrusion of reality.
I'll take it off.
Let's get back to Hollywood.
Don't lose your earpiece as you divest yourself of your Fetterman suit.
And this is a good film.
I mean, a really good film.
It got really good reviews at the time.
It is rated in the Academy as one of the top 100 movies.
But it is a different pace of film, isn't it?
I mean, this, the tension is a constant tension, but this, the speed here is from a different age, is it not?
No, you know what?
But also, it's difficult to take a film that is a real life thing and not to embellish it terribly and still make it exciting and interesting.
And what they were able to do, because, you know, the characters aren't terribly sympathetic.
I mean, especially, like, Clint Eastwood.
I mean, that face.
Clint Eastwood is a very lucky man to be born with that face.
He looks like a face that was carved from stone.
No, no, hang on.
What do you mean the face?
We saw the shower scene.
I mean, the body.
He looks like, you know, Michelangelo's flipping model.
Have you ever seen, it's like him and Charlton Heston, the shoulders and the pecs.
It's like, uh, are you a Greek statue or are you a human being?
Exactly.
But I would say he doesn't even have to like make expressions and he just looks cool.
You know, all the time he just looks cool.
He just makes every movie he's in cool, you know, but so, you know, you didn't necessarily, and the thing is his story isn't that interesting in terms of his personality.
Right.
What he does is interesting.
But so they added all these secondary and tertiary characters with, you know, with a real heart and with stories that make you really sympathetic for them.
And so then when bad things happen to them, it really tugs at the heartstrings and it makes you really care about these people who are criminals in prison.
Yeah, that's, again, you've done it, you always do it.
You bring that deep level analysis.
If you're honest about... I love this scene where he's quote-unquote welding metal together with some match heads.
It's like not sure about the science behind that one.
Anyway, he's really a cypher.
You know, the character here, the Morris character, there's no arc here.
I mean, the only character you get is he's probably a decent guy because he likes Doc.
He's a board against which the other characters, like the librarian, like Doc, like the guy who wants to paint all the time, like the mean warden or the nice prison guard, they're bouncing off him.
But it's a very thin characterization, isn't it, Morris himself?
Oh, absolutely.
And you need somebody like Clint Eastwood to pull that character off so that there's something interesting about him, you know, other than just what he's doing.
Yeah.
This is actually an old technique.
Dickens did this with Oliver Twist.
This is kind of getting a little bit nerdy here.
No, no, go ahead.
But with Oliver Twist, yeah, the whole concept was, let us Explore British society and all the different kinds of characters you might find in British society.
So if you read Oliver Twist, Oliver Twist has almost no personality at all.
There's nothing really interesting about that orphan character.
It's how he's treated by the various characters.
That's how Dickens wants you to think about people in those professions.
So he is the sympathetic character by which we learn how, you know, how other people maybe are in that society.
This is a little bit different.
It's not how they're treating him necessarily, but you sort of identify with him and you sort of see everybody through his eyes, I think, a little bit.
Yeah, no, no, you understand the other characters in the way that they bounce off Clint Eastwood's character.
You know, the favors they do, the, you know, the pink paint they get for him because he needs to make the paper mache head, or, you know, the thing that they sneak out of the wood shop, all of this stuff.
He is the catalyst, the reacting board, the litmus, As, you know, the character Litmus is.
He's the Litmus reacting paper to everybody else.
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Okay, um, Cafe Chisel. Yeah, do the next one.
I may have found a way out of here.
I gotta figure it.
The cell block's really getting old.
The moist air is corroding the concrete, and the salt is rusting the metal.
I took a nail clipper.
I was digging around the grill at the back of the cell.
I think with some work I could dig that grill out of there, enlarge the hole, and get into the utility corridor, which leads to the top of the cell block, and maybe out on the roof.
You know what shocked me, Chris, when I watched this again?
I hadn't seen this for, I don't know, a couple of decades.
The thing that it's about, the title, Escape from Alcatraz, is kind of pretty low-key.
There's no amazing, you know, drum music or hypertension or whatever.
And it's something like the last 16 minutes of the movie.
That's it.
Right.
The actual escape itself.
Yeah, because everything is the preparation leading up to the escape, and it was a real story, and it is fantastic to think how they did it.
Yeah.
You know, and like I said, it does build tension every second throughout the film, because you don't want them to get caught digging the hole, you don't want them to, like, identify this papier-mâché head as not really his head, and everything like that.
You learn to love the characters, you learn about them with the character development, I think there's a moment where the character who doesn't make it out, right, and you meet his wife because his wife comes to talk to him, there's a moment where they both touch the glass.
I think that might have been the first time in a movie where they both sort of like a character touches the glass and the other character touches the glass from the other side.
In a prison.
I don't know if that's true or not, but that's the first time I remember ever seeing it.
And that's become an absolute staple.
You see that in everything.
You see it in commercials.
You see that all over the place.
So, that was a brilliant little moment.
There's a lot of little moments like, you know, escaping through digging.
This is obviously taken and put into Shawshank Redemption.
There are so many moments in this film that I feel like were then taken into other films that I looked Around online for reviews of this film.
And I really couldn't find anything.
And I feel like maybe this is a kind of a forgotten classic.
I didn't think so when I chose it.
I thought everybody's seen this film a million times.
Excuse me, but maybe not because, you know, people just aren't reviewing it.
They're not talking about it.
And I think it may be kind of a forgotten classic, but I think it's a little bit overlooked.
No, I would tend to agree, and especially, you know, since the release, which we will probably have to review at some time, it's a great movie, of The Rock, which, of course, was also filmed on Alcatraz, as was this.
The Rock with Sean Connery and Nicolas Cage has greatly overshadowed this movie.
But you're right, there's so much that has been borrowed, that has been, you know, stolen for other films, other prison movies, even if they're not, you know, breakout, escape movies.
And I have to say, that scene that you mentioned, Of the visitation scene.
That's probably, along with, you know, Doc having his paintings taken away from him and then cutting his, you know, his fingers off in the shop, in the workshop.
The scene with, I think it's the black prisoner.
No, no, the white prisoner talking to his wife.
And he accidentally says something about the routine in the prison and then suddenly this voice of a warden comes in over the phone and says you are prohibited from discussing procedures inside the prison.
He kind of loses it because he realizes that they're listening to him every moment talking to his wife and they just click.
They just switch off and he can't, his wife is right there literally inches away from him behind that bulletproof glass and he can't, he's not even allowed to talk to her.
It's one of the pathos of that moment is one of the toughest in the movie I think.
Oh yeah, and you know what, they do such a fair job I feel like of depicting prison life.
It's appetizing for an audience.
I mean, it's not so disturbing that you can't watch it.
But there's disturbing moments, for sure.
But then you also have a myriad of prisoners.
Some are a little bit more decent, and some are pretty awful.
And then you have a myriad of people who work at the prison.
And I would say, for the most part, most of the prison guards Are actually very amiable characters.
You do like them.
There's the guy that sprays Clint Eastwood with a fire hose and he's a real a-hole.
Nobody likes him.
You know, there's the warden who, you know, he's like the ultimate villain, I suppose, of the film.
But I think they do a fair job of depicting, you know, there's just good and bad people in every group.
Even warden, you know, prison guards and prisoners.
Even this warden, who has to take away, you know, all of Doc's painting materials, he says, I'm sorry.
You know, just not my decision.
It was the warden's.
The nice thing, as you say, the nice thing about the characters, none of them is a caricature.
You know, it's not.
In Shawshank, you've got the evil S.O.B.
prison guard, and it's like such a caricature.
It's like, really?
I mean, it's just cliche, cliche, cliche.
Here, These are human beings.
They're clearly depicted as... they may be criminals, they may be in a uniform, but they're human beings.
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Okay, bleachers.
No one's ever busted out.
No one's ever made it.
Everyone here has looked for a way out, but there ain't any.
See those hacks?
These joints have one hack for every seven cons.
There's one hack for every three cons here.
Let's say you're going to try it anyway.
First, you've got to get out of the cell.
Each bar has six bars, smaller bars, sitting in a steel tube with extra steel boarding.
And there ain't no way to turn it out either.
This island is solid rock.
Solid Rock.
It's called The Rock.
That's a good name for a movie and it will be a few decades later.
We're talking Escape from Alcatraz.
One character we should discuss, we played a little b-roll of him, is the warden Patrick McGowan.
Allegedly a super nice guy.
He was, did you know this, the first choice to play James Bond but because of the womanizing in the books And he was a very strong Christian.
Patrick McGowan turned down the role that Sean Connery would make famous.
Wow, wow, that is a good man.
And you know what, you made such a good point earlier when you said that there were no caricatures in this film.
Because I think in the 1970s, they did have this hyper realism idea that they wanted everything to be very gritty and real.
And the performances in this film, this is something we haven't discussed yet, just out of this world, including the warden.
I mean, if he's like a nice Christian man and he's playing this... He creeps me out.
I'm sorry.
That is a great performance.
Unbelievable.
And all of the performance, this is what's so amazing about this film.
Every performance down to, like, people with, like, one line or even background actors, they're all absolute perfection.
It seems like you're really there.
Yeah, no, absolutely.
We have to note...
When I saw this in the credits, I had no idea.
I've lived 52 years.
I had no idea he was in the movie.
This is the first movie he ever made.
I think the reason I didn't even spot him last night when I watched it again was because you see him through the bars as Clint is now working as, you know, one of the trustees for the library and he's pushing the The cart of books and one of the prisoners wants a book and there is, they dub his voice over so I didn't recognize it.
I was looking for him for an hour and a half.
Danny Glover!
No!
That's Danny Glover, right there!
Wow!
His first role, that's fantastic!
And let's close the loop on the genesis of the story.
As I said, the book was written about multiple escape attempts, the original book.
Then this is the only one that The bodies were never recovered.
There was some kind of screw-up or cover-up in the investigation.
On Angel Island, they did find remnants of some raft that the police and the warden or what have you tried to cover up for several weeks after the escape.
So the likelihood that Morris And his two accomplices, one sadly was left behind, or unfortunately was left behind, made it out alive is highly probable.
And they remained on the FBI Most Wanted list.
And I think we have the photograph.
I think it's a replica in Alcatraz, but this is the original papay mache head that Morris made to put in the bed that affected his escape.
What else do we have?
Oh!
Criticisms.
Do you have any criticism?
I have a criticism, Mr. Gregan.
I have no criticisms.
Okay, I'd like to hear yours though.
Clint Eastwood walks into a prison.
and the idea that anybody even you know a 400 pound gay guy who likes to slurp his spaghetti thinks that he's taking out clint eastwood i'm sorry mr writers that's that's dirty harry it's like come on The idea that anybody in prison is going to try and walk up to Clint and intimidate him in the shower.
And I know he's the hero of the movie, but the idea that anyone is going to intimidate Clint, that's where my suspension of disbelief cracked for a minute, Chris.
Come on, give it to me.
Well, I think I think they wanted Clint Eastwood to have somebody to punch.
I think that was really what it boiled down to, you know?
Yeah, it was.
It's a little bit of a kind of an unusual character to add.
It was completely unnecessary.
The guy shows up at the beginning of the film.
He's pretty disturbing.
Clint Eastwood takes him out.
He goes away for You know, quite a long time.
Comes back, tries to knife him.
He knocks him out again.
Or, what happens the second time?
I can't remember.
The second time they get into a fight, and the warden shoots the feet of the bad guy.
Oh, that's right.
They both go into solitary.
They both go into the cooler.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So the first time, he punches him out.
Then he's gone for a little bit.
Then he comes back.
Then he goes to the cooler.
He's gone for a long time.
And then he comes back just toward the end.
And that sort of solidifies the story between Clint Eastwood and, you know, the king of the black inmates.
Because he's the guy who gives him the heads up that he's about to get shivved.
No, no, no.
He actually grabs him.
No, he's the guy who intercepts it.
Who intercepts him and then takes him over to his brothers and says, let's have a little chat, why don't we?
Exactly.
He protects him.
He actually saves him at the very end.
That's probably nothing to do with the actual story of what really happened there in Alcatraz, but in terms of writing for Hollywood, you don't get better than that.
I mean, you really just solidify the friendship because, you know, he wasn't leaving.
He didn't have anything to gain by that.
It was just his friend and he wanted to protect him.
Yeah, yeah.
Fabulous writing, with one exception that nobody's going to try and intimidate, Clint.
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All right, Angel Island.
Warden, we just got a message from the director.
He wants you on the next plane to Washington.
Who presents amongst us on this island?
Not here on Angel Island.
Why?
I'm curious.
The tides were mild in the fog light last night.
They left at lights out.
They had a nine and a half hour head start.
I wonder if they made it.
Later on.
Yes, sir.
They drowned.
Yeah, yeah.
They better have drowned because otherwise my record don't look too good.
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I have to do this.
I have to let the real world intrude on our review right now because I have to recognize my daughter.
My daughter, who lives in that neck of the woods, was an athlete in college.
She was a rower.
She is still a great sports lady.
And she has actually done it.
She didn't have to escape from Alcatraz, but she has swum from Alcatraz to San Francisco.
Every year, insane people like my daughter get on a boat that takes them all the way to Alcatraz and then they jump off the boat into the cold freezing water.
Of 80 plus people, my daughter was maybe one of six that did it without a wetsuit and she has swum the bay from Alcatraz to the shore.
I salute my daughter on air in front of millions of people.
Alright, let's start with what we forgot to do last week because we were so starstruck with our guest, Jon Voight.
We didn't even rate Deliverance, Chris.
Do you remember?
Let me just brag a little bit for you.
When you first called up Jon Voight, right, you got his phone number from the folks at Newsmax, you called him up, I believe you told me today that he said, uh, what is it like to have such an iconic voice that everyone knows who you are when you speak?
That's the fir- I'm not kidding.
The first- Jon Voight, never spoken to the man, get his cell phone, call him up and say, uh, Mr. Voight, Sebastian Gorky.
First thing he says, oh, oh.
What is it like to have a voice that everyone recognizes instantly?
It's like, OK, I can retire now.
I'm done.
Thank you.
John Voice thinks I've got a cool voice.
But that was your idea.
So let's recognize Chris for making that happen.
But the ratings that we do here are, of course, you do for a modern audience.
I do in the universe of all movies.
And we have to rate deliverance out of, I think we should do it out of two patterns.
Oh, you want to do deliverance first?
Okay.
Yeah, because we forgot it.
So let's do it in the right order.
What do you think?
Should we do out of 10 canoe paddles?
Canoe paddles is good.
I feel a little bit... My mom was mad at me because we didn't mention the moment that they find their friend with his... Do you know the story about that?
She thought it was so horrific that she was like scarred for life.
But no, I don't know the story.
Go on.
The story, the actor, not Ned Beattie, who's the other guy?
What's his name?
I don't remember.
He told the director, John Borman, I can dislocate my shoulder at will.
Can I show you a trick?
And that's actually, that's actually him.
And all they did, all they did is they took a little bit of rouge and they put a little bit of rouge here to make it look like, you know, he'd been smacked under the armpit.
And that was just him.
That wasn't a prosthetic.
That was him with his arm twisted around his head.
My mom will be thrilled to know.
I mean, I think for a modern audience, deliverance is actually kind of a hard movie.
You know, it is suspenseful and I love it.
I would actually prefer to rate things your way now, but I can't because I've stuck at this whole how a modern audience will appreciate it.
I do worry.
I do worry that a modern audience would not love it as much as I agree.
So so I'll give it.
Especially since we were with Jon Voight the other day, I feel like I should give it a thousand paddles, but let's give it, let's give it a, let's give it a, let's give it an eight.
I'll give it an eight.
I'm being generous.
I think probably it's a seven, but I'll give it an eight because I think modern audiences should definitely watch that film.
Yeah, no, I think you're absolutely right.
I think a modern audience would have issues with it, although it is an amazing movie.
Of course, Ronnie Cox is the actor we're talking about who did that stunt with his dislocated shoulder.
Yeah, Deliverance.
Ronnie Cox.
I don't see any problem with it.
It's great.
It's great.
Let's give it a 10.
Let's give it a 10.
10 paddles out of 10.
Absolutely.
All right, now we have to do the movie of the week, Escape from Alcatraz.
What are we going to give it?
Are we going to give it spaghetti noodles out of 10?
Are we going to give it chrysanthemums?
How many chrysanthemums out of 10?
Chrysanthemums.
I love chrysanthemums.
OK, listen.
I'm only going to rate this for men.
Because this is not a movie that women will care to watch.
I will give it 9 out of 10 chrysanthemums just for the modern man, though.
Yeah.
I will give it less than deliverance on one issue alone, which is pacing.
I'll give it 9.
Is that fair?
9 and 9.
I think it's a great score.
OK.
Good.
All right.
So whose choice is it?
It's your choice.
Have you chosen it a while?
I do think it's my choice.
I don't know.
I always get flustered.
If you've not thought of anything, I can come up with something.
Oh, no, no, no.
I get to choose.
Thank you.
I get flustered, though, the day before, thinking, what?
There's so many movies.
I love so many movies.
We're going to... You know, it was either going to be Dirty Harry or... Okay, we're going to stick with the Clint Eastwood theme, I see.
Or another escape.
And I think I have to placate a certain team member of mine here.
And I think we're gonna have to escape from New York.
Oh, I love Escape from New York.
I love Escape from New York.
Let's do it.
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