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Sept. 25, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka LIVE: Crushing Washington Post poll gives President Trump 10-point lead

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	So, I'm going to go ahead and start.
	I'm going to start with the first one.
	Okay.
	You want to keep more of the money you earn?
	I'm afraid that's very selfish.
	We shall want to tax that away.
	You want to own shares in your firm?
	We can't have that.
	The state has to own your firm.
	You want to choose where to send your children to school?
	That's very divisive.
	You'll send your child where we tell you.
	Mr. President, the trouble with Labour is that they're just not at home with freedom.
	Socialists don't like ordinary people choosing, for they might not choose socialism.
	Oh, Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, how you are missed, Margaret Thatcher, former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, the lady under whose political system or leadership I grew up in the United Kingdom.
	Selfishness, envy, it really is at the heart of socialism, of left-wing politics, and also drives Some very ugly people who are allegedly on our side.
	I don't know if you heard yesterday's sermon in church.
	It was about envy.
	It was about the root of envy is really the devil.
	Because if you envy somebody else or something else, well, you are competing with God's order.
	And of course, who was the first truly envious being?
	Lucifer, the angel who envied humankind, envied the fact that humans had powers and capabilities that even angels didn't have, especially procreation.
	Humans can procreate, can create life.
	And as a result, Lucifer initiated a revolution against his Lord, against our Creator, and thus became the devil.
	Maybe envy is the explication for what I found out was alleged against me and my wife recently.
	Hey, Mr. G, can we get Mr. G's on the line here?
	I'm trying to remember.
	We've had him on the show a couple of times.
	Who is Robert Barnes?
	What does he do for a living?
	He's a lawyer.
	We had him on a couple of times.
	I think he became famous in 2016 when he made a big, huge bet on Trump.
	It was over a million dollars, I think.
	So that's when we had him on a couple times.
	He's kind of a populist type of guy and a little strange at certain things, too.
	A big expert on national security, right?
	I would say no to that one.
	You would say no.
	Interesting, because he was in a discussion with a guy called Viva Frye.
	I guess he doesn't have a real name.
	He hides behind some made-up name.
	And they were talking about Ukraine and national security issues, which I always find amusing.
	I'm no credentialist, but You probably should shut up about things you don't know anything about.
	Really.
	I don't make comments about brain surgery or how to conduct a symphony orchestra because I know nothing about them.
	It would be foolish.
	It would be hubristic of me to make comments around those issues of which I have no training in.
	And during this discussion between Mr. Barnes and the man with the peculiar haircut, my name came up, and more importantly, my wife.
	Barnes, you are a spineless git, to use a British phrase.
	You are a coward, and you are a scoundrel.
	Let's play the cut.
	It's to glorify and glamorize their Nazi past.
	I mean, they're now making postage stamps in Ukraine of Bandera.
	And so it's just, you know, the war whores like that fraud grifter Sebastian Gorka, well, he needs to start issuing apologies for this kind of nonsense.
	But he won't because he and his wife are usually busy pipping themselves out for what cash they can make in D.C.
	while pretending to be true Trump supporters.
	Barnes?
	You sad, overweight, balding little excuse of a non-man.
	I challenge you now.
	Come to Washington D.C.
	and say that to my face.
	Call me a whore and say that I and my wife are pimping ourselves out.
	You won't do it because you're a coward, yellow-bellied, sad little sack of human excrement.
	For those out there who care about the facts, I haven't made any money from the industrial complex of the war machine.
	I've left the Trump administration to do what?
	To host a national radio show.
	I work for Sailor Media.
	I have a national show three hours a day, unlike your pathetic little podcast.
	Whenever anybody introduces me as a podcast host, I get quite irate.
	National Radio.
	Now that's a thing.
	Podcasts, they come and go.
	But National Radio, that's a thing.
	Also, I invoice Newsmax every month, because I have a national television show there every week.
	It's called the Gawker Reality Check.
	Beyond that, I give speeches here and there to real patriots.
	Unlike you, my friend.
	And I write articles.
	Unlike you, my friend.
	Envy.
	The green-eyed monster.
	It's an ugly, ugly thing.
	But it's time we purged the right.
	Those who love this country.
	Of those who, really, they're not driven by patriotism.
	Somebody called John Cardillo just tweeted moments ago about the President being seen.
	You know, President Trump, not the senile old moron in the White House.
	But President Trump purchasing a Glock handgun in a store in front of real patriots.
	And this cretin said, he's committed a felony!
	If he doesn't fill out that background check form, President Trump is a criminal!
	John Cardillo has also gone insane.
	Another person who pretends to be a conservative, just like Mr. Barnes.
	These people weaken the true patriotic movement.
	They're driven by, I don't know, bile?
	Inadequacy?
	Sense of being failures?
	Imposters?
	Their reasons are legion.
	But I suggest to you that you understand how to separate the wheat from the chaff.
	Those who actually love this country, like President Trump, there's only one reason he ran in 2016.
	There's only one reason he's running now.
	And it has nothing to do with the likes of Cardillo or Barnes.
	The real grifters, the sad little men who will never amount to anything in their lives, but think they can hitch their wagon to other people who are, what, suddenly more successful, temporarily a flash in the pan, like the governor of Florida.
	Well, right now, here's a little wake-up for you.
	Even the Washington Post, the latest poll from ABC and Washington Post, has the 45th President of the United States 10 points ahead of the incumbent, Joe Biden.
	I have stood by America First.
	I have stood by MAGA since I travelled to Trump Tower in the summer of 2015 to meet Mr. Trump who asked me to advise him on national security issues before we won that election and I ended up as his strategist and his deputy in the White House.
	Ignore those who are pathetic, who don't have America's interests at heart, And stick with those who you know are real patriots.
	I think you know the difference.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	So do we dial the temperature down or do you want to hear from the rumble chat?
	Uh, yeah, go ahead.
	Alright, because quite a few people seem to be taking Barnes' side here.
	Let me find one.
	Robbity Bob, who's a regular in the chat, says, Barnes is a patriot.
	He has anti-Ukraine funding, like many.
	You can be both.
	No, you can't.
	If you insult me, you go to hell.
	And you can switch off whoever you are in Rumble.
	Don't watch this show.
	Sod off.
	Some people talking about Viva.
	One person who echoes my sentiment on the guy says... Oh, where is it?
	Gulo, who says, "...consistently see Frey on the Rumble leaderboard, but have never watched him."
	That's true.
	He is on Rumble's front page a lot.
	Like, I don't imagine it's organic, but yeah, he's being promoted by Rumble a lot.
	And then... Let's see.
	NinaJeski says, "...I hadn't heard this.
	I am less concerned for this dude's opinion of Sebastian, and would like to hear more about what Slenski is doing."
	And about the honoring of a Nazi, because we are giving this man billions of dollars, tax dollars to fight Russia.
	That's referring to the Canadian Parliament.
	Yeah, yeah, I know, yeah, yeah.
	Guess who's on the line.
	Mic's on or off?
	Mic's on or off?
	Uh, off.
	Mic's off.
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	I guess they saw the WAPO poll, which gives President Trump a 10-point lead at the Morning Joe studios.
	And last week they were saying how Biden's just so amazing, works harder than everybody else.
	And now I guess it's harder to lie that much.
	Cut 13.
	Right now, You have Donald Trump running against a Republican field, just like the Republican field in 2016, and just like Hillary Clinton in 2016.
	We're playing by Marcus and Queensberry rules.
	Donald Trump played as a disruptor.
	And so they never were able to keep up with him.
	And the same thing's happening now.
	Joe Biden's campaign approach, Bidenomics, is flat-footed.
	They need to be disruptive to a disruptor.
	Two and a half years of praising him and now they're saying he's flat-footed?
	How did that occur?
	Is it anything to do, perhaps, with Hunter Biden and not Bidenomics?
	Let's talk to a man who gave us the sagacious legal advice we need at this time.
	He's the author of a fascinating work about the most famous trial of recent years, the Scopes Monkey Trial.
	It's called The Trial of the Century.
	New York Times best-selling author.
	You see him on Fox News all the time.
	Greg Jarrett, happy Monday!
	It's good talking to you, Seb.
	All right, so before we get to the Bidens and what is the likely outcome of impeachment inquiry and the latest Hunter indictments, first, Bob Menendez has, I guess, after... I'm curious, Craig, this is funny.
	They find gold bars and cash in his home, but the FBI found that 15 months ago.
	It's weird that that didn't leak for over a year.
	Yeah, well, if it was Donald Trump, it would have leaked within an hour.
	Yes!
	But, you know, Menendez, today I had to laugh at him.
	He deserves laughter and mockery.
	He claimed he withdrew the $480,000 in cash found in his home from his personal savings account.
	Well, I hope he has withdrawal slips and monthly statements proving it, but I doubt it.
	Since the fingerprints and DNA of his co-defendant Was on some of the envelopes found stashed in his clothing and his phone.
	And as for the gold bars?
	Well, the serial numbers incriminate Menendez.
	They show they came from his co-defendant.
	And I'm sure there are records in the hands of prosecutors showing that the luxury Mercedes wasn't purchased by Menendez, but two of his co-defendants.
	So, you know, that coupled with voicemail message and text that incriminate Husband and wife.
	I mean, he's going to the who's gal.
	Yeah, it's strange he justified keeping, you know, wadges of cash and gold bars at home because of what his family had to suffer with in Cuba under communist confiscation.
	It's strange.
	My parents lived under communism and I don't have any gold bars at home or wadges of cash like they do.
	So you think he's in serious trouble?
	Yeah, I doubt his flimsy excuses are going to sell to a jury, especially if and when one or more of the others who have been charged decide to flip against him and incriminate him by becoming witnesses for the prosecution.
	So Menendez may not know it, but he's toast.
	All right, so let's just remind everybody this is the same Bob Menendez who escaped a charge of using underage prostitutes, child prostitutes, in the Dominican Republic because of a hung jury.
	Greg, let's go to the latest concerning the Bidens, this corrupt family.
	You've done so much to catalog with your various books before the trial of the century.
	What is the truth about this gun charge?
	A lot of people are saying that this is the only charge that has nothing to do with Joe Biden, and that's why the DOJ brought it.
	Your analysis?
	Well, I agree that's the principal reason why it was brought, but it was done under duress.
	Special Counsel David Weiss, the U.S.
	Attorney in Delaware, didn't want to charge Hunter Biden with anything.
	According to documents that have emerged, But, you know, the judge that imploded his lenient plea deal basically forced him on it.
	But I have no confidence that Weiss will aggressively prosecute this gun charge case.
	I'll tell you what I think will happen.
	I suspect that he will attempt yet another lenient plea deal, this time without the hidden immunity clause.
	Hunter Biden will skate.
	Weiss will pretend he's about to bring Other serious charges in California and Washington that do implicate Joe Biden, but in the end he'll never bring those charges because, you know, this is crooked justice that Joe Biden's Department of Justice has perfected.
	So just another shell game.
	They'll give him some kind of slap on the wrist for the gun charges, then they'll initiate some other ones and they'll just, you know, run the clock out in the next 15 months?
	Yeah, I mean, we're supposed to believe that Weiss will suddenly act as a real prosecutor, having spent five years acting as the de facto defense attorney for Hunter Biden and Joe Biden.
	So I don't believe that for a moment.
	So there'll be a deal in the works, I suspect.
	And the fact that we now have an additional whistleblower who's come forth who said the IRS was shut down out of DC from investigating other charges against Hunter Biden.
	How does any of this factor in that we've now got multiple whistleblowers, FBI, DOJ, IRS saying this guy, kid gloves, statute of limitations, pulled it out for four years.
	Is this stuff, does this have any impact at all or will this just be voices in the wilderness?
	Well, it demonstrates that what the initial whistleblowers were saying all along was true, that David Weiss deserves our condemnation for abandoning his duty as a responsible prosecutor.
	He's untrustworthy.
	You know, he let the statute of limitations expire on the most egregious Crimes for a three-year period of time.
	He tipped off Hunter's lawyers.
	You know, he forbid any questions about Joe Biden's involvement in the obvious peddling schemes.
	He ignored the overseas paper trail, millions in cash flowing to the Biden family.
	He overlooked money laundering, FARA violations, and he actually tore up a written agreement By investigators and prosecutors to bring six felony charges against Hunter.
	So, you know, Weiss is the kind of guy who should never be a prosecutor, especially in an important case.
	Just doing the work for the Bidens, the administration and the DNC.
	We will continue our discussion.
	What should happen during the impeachment inquiry with Greg Jarrett?
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	We'll be back with Greg after these messages.
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	when we were going through our investigations and oversight i will tell you
	that basic investigative practices were flatly ignored
	when it came to hunter biden Conversely, they're inventing ways to prosecute President Trump.
	I firmly believe that there is obstruction at the Department of Justice because there is no possible way the first Hunter Biden indictment gets to a federal judge without Merrick Garland knowing about it and reading it, without Lisa Monaco, the Deputy Attorney General, Knowing about it and reading about it, and frankly, with the two U.S.
	attorneys, one in California, one here in D.C., knowing what's going on and ignoring prosecution.
	That only occurs if the Department of Justice is covering up, they're blocking and tackling, and they're obstructing justice.
	Actually, come in with that, then I'll do my pillow.
	Come in with two, then pillow.
	And then play for me, um... Seven again?
	Seven.
	Not only are we talking felony charges, but we're talking mostly robberies, because that's what they are.
	You know, force or fear is being used in the process of taking this property.
	We're also alleging conspiracy, because we have a group of people that are coming together for the purposes of committing a crime.
	We're looking for other charges as well, depending on the circumstances.
	You know, whether you have people that have prior history, whether there were other crimes involved.
	They are all clearly felonies.
	They're being prosecuted accordingly, and we're committed to prosecuting these crimes to the fullest.
	Yes.
	90 seconds.
	Oh, title for the monologue, and for Jim.
	For Jim... In this case treason is the right charge.
	All right.
	And then for the monologue...
	Time for Magga to jettison sad men like Barnes and Cardillo.
	Mm-hmm.
	All right, 30 seconds, Greg.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	No liner.
	I'm not going to do that.
	I'm going to do it.
	When we were going through our investigations and oversight, I will tell you that basic investigative practices were flatly ignored when it came to Hunter Biden.
	Conversely, they're inventing ways to prosecute President Trump.
	I firmly believe that there is obstruction at the Department of Justice because there is no possible way the first Hunter Biden indictment gets to a federal judge without Merrick Garland knowing about it and reading it, without Lisa Monaco, the Deputy Attorney General, Knowing about it and reading about it, and frankly, with the two U.S.
	attorneys, one in California, one here in D.C., knowing what's going on and ignoring prosecution.
	That only occurs if the Department of Justice is covering up, they're blocking and tackling, and they are obstructing justice.
	Byron Donalds, Congressman from Florida with Mark Levin, former Chief of Staff for the Department of Justice.
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	And we are back with legal scholar par excellence, political analyst for Fox News, author of
	The Trial of the Century, our friend Greg Jarrett.
	Greg, we've had eight months to witness what the Republicans are going to do when it comes to Biden corruption, Hunter, Joe, and the whole family really.
	I am severely underwhelmed.
	The first hearing for the inquiry, not the impeachment, but the inquiry for the impeachment is this week.
	What would you like to see more of?
	You know you've written multiple books on the Russia collusion, the hoax.
	You know this better than anyone on the witch hunt.
	How do they do things in a way that communicates what needs to be communicated to a general public who maybe haven't followed these stories?
	Well, I agree that their messaging needs to improve.
	They need to command the narrative and not let The mainstream media take control of it.
	Now, that's not an easy thing to do, since the vast majority of the media is far left, and they act as apologists for Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, as well as a great many Democrats.
	But, you know, the corruption scandal that has enveloped Joe Biden is taking its toll, as a recent CNN poll found.
	61% of Americans are convinced that Joe Biden, the president, was directly involved in his son's prolific influence peddling schemes, which under the criminal codes constitutes bribery, a felony offense.
	And I think the sentiment will only grow more negative against Joe Biden as the House impeachment inquiry opens this week with its first hearing on Thursday.
	You know, members are going to dig deep.
	into those schemes that netted tens of millions of dollars from America's foreign adversaries.
	But what is going to be the coup de grâce?
	Are we going to really have to wait?
	Because we know it's tens of millions of dollars.
	We know it's a $1.4 billion deal with the Communist Bank of China for Hunter's company.
	Are we really, you know, waiting for that piece of paper where Joe says, I will change this policy because of the money you gave me?
	Because they can't be that stupid.
	No, they're not, and I don't think that piece of paper exists.
	But what you have to do is marshal together witnesses and a document trail and follow the money.
	I mean, if you follow the money, you'll discover corrupt acts by Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, that netted some $20 million flowing into a complex web of 20 shell companies.
	That had no other purpose than to disguise the source of the funds.
	That's money laundering, and Joe Biden's role in it all constitutes aiding and abetting and conspiracy.
	And I think, you know, once you communicate that to the public, over the heads of the media, I think you're making headway.
	I like that he's using the terminology which Chairman Comer should concentrate on, aiding and abetting and money laundering.
	Why else would the Biden family have 20 shell companies?
	Why would the then-Vice President request and then receive numerous pseudonymous government email accounts in fake names?
	There's no other possible answer for it except That's exactly what they were doing.
	They were corrupt and they were laundering millions and millions of dollars.
	Follow this man right now on social media at gregjarrett2gs2rs2ts and his website thegregjarrett.com and the latest book, you have to get it right now, is Trial of the Century.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, thank you, Greg.
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	It's all about money laundering.
	Thank you.
	I've got that video, too, of that woman.
	There's one part I had to cut.
	How long is it?
	It's like a little 220 or something, or 230.
	Okay.
	We'll use it in the next hour.
	No.
	I'll call it cut 16.
	Mm-hmm.
	You don't need to see it again?
	No, as long as you've tested it, because it's long.
	Frame rate looks good.
	Okay.
	What are we doing here?
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	Uh, come in with four.
	Come in with four, Donald, again.
	Mm-hmm.
	Why is...
	Did you read this letter from Salem, Jeff?
	Jeff?
	When was this?
	This is Jeff.
	Coming in with cut four.
	What's the date?
	20 seconds?
	Is he up?
	No.
	He's next hour.
	He's next hour.
	Oh, hang on.
	Then don't come in with it.
	Oh, okay.
	I thought he was 1D.
	Yeah, so don't come in.
	And as for Donald Trump, I think that there has got to be a point where he's going to
	have to be a point where if you're an organization that works around debating the issues and
	following the truth, I don't know why there are extensive interviews with this man when
	he cannot even admit he lost the election.
	Like, that would be the end of any interview.
	Oh, are they jealous?
	it should be and instead he pontificates and rolls over people with lies and people continue
	to put him on as if he is a truth teller.
	You look at Jonathan.
	And he's not a truth teller.
	Oh, are they jealous?
	They can't get an interview with President Trump?
	And they're saying he shouldn't be interviewed by anybody because he's saying the last election
	was stolen.
	Eric, isn't there someone out there who's been saying for seven years now that an election was stolen?
	No, no, forget it.
	Forget it.
	I'm wrong.
	What was Al Gore?
	That was 2000, right?
	23 years ago.
	So, are there people out there who, like, should be banned from media?
	Pretty sure the Democrats have a bigger track record of, you know, calling out voter fraud than Republicans do.
	They insisted it was a real thing up until it suddenly suited their needs.
	But I'm confused because I think Hillary Clinton, who's been doing it for seven years, I think... Jeff, when was this interview with Hillary?
	Was this like six years ago?
	This was last night on their network.
	Excuse me, last night?
	Yeah.
	On which network?
	Uh, MSNBC.
	Hang on, you mean the same one that Mika said you're not allowed to interview anybody who says elections are stolen?
	Yeah, that's where it should be the end of the interview, that's what she said.
	Right there, anyone normal would do that, she said.
	Are we making this up?
	No!
	Here she is, last night!
	The beast herself, Hillary, talking about stolen elections!
	Cut six.
	You know, you have a tough job because you have to talk about what's happening in the news, but you also have to keep people's eyes on what's right behind the horizon.
	And I fear that, you know, the Russians have proved themselves to be quite adept at interfering
	and if he has a chance, he'll do it again.
	I'm confused.
	I don't get it.
	Why is she allowed to do that on MSNBC?
	Hey Jeff, you know, I think I've got it.
	They're jealous that other people, like our buddy Raheem Kassam, like Breitbart, get interviews with the most famous man in the world.
	Don't you think that's the reason?
	I think that's exactly why.
	Because didn't they used to love President Trump?
	Mika did big time.
	Have you seen that video that they put together?
	Like there's four or five different times she's talking about Trump and how his speech was great at CPAC and all this stuff.
	Isn't there that one where President Trump says she was at Mar-a-Lago and her nose was bandaged up or something?
	That's when things started getting bad.
	That's when he tweeted it up, yeah.
	Because she had had plastic surgery that week.
	What?
	Mika isn't real?
	What?
	I'm shocked.
	Okay, let's give a little bit of a tease from somebody who can get long interviews with the 45th President of the United States.
	He's such a tease, Rahim Kassam, since yesterday.
	I've been retweeting it because he's a buddy of mine.
	He went to Mar-a-Lago.
	Clearly he did an amazing interview and he said, you gotta subscribe if you want to see the whole thing.
	But here's a little excerpt from Rahim Kassam with the 45th, God willing if we do our part, the 47th President of the United States.
	Cut 10!
	Murdoch says he's out.
	What do you think?
	Well, I wish him luck.
	We've done fine with Fox.
	We've done well with Fox over the years.
	Roger Ailes was a great guy and a friend of mine.
	Somebody I respected a lot.
	He did a fantastic job.
	They pick their opponents.
	Perhaps it's their globalists.
	Who knows why?
	We had the greatest economy in history.
	We had the strongest border in history.
	We cut taxes greater than Ronald Reagan.
	You know, our tax cut was bigger than the Reagan tax cut, which was also very big.
	We did things with regulations.
	That's why we had the best job numbers.
	Anyway, we had the best economy in history.
	But somehow, there's just an edge there, you know?
	If you look at the anchors, You take a look at Sean Hannity.
	Laura's been great.
	They've all been good.
	But there's an overhang that you just feel there's something missing.
	Does that make sense to you?
	It does.
	I can't wait to see the full interview.
	I think it's going to drop later this week.
	It's the National Pulse.
	And our buddy Raheem Kassam, he, he can get interviews with President Trump.
	Poor old Micron Joe.
	When did we start talking at the top of the show?
	What was it about?
	Envy.
	Just like Robert Barnes.
	Don't be envious, you sad little person.
	Try and do a good job.
	Oh, you can't.
	Because you are a sad little person.
	Let's go to your calls.
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	Phil in Philly!
	Line one.
	Hey, Dr. G, just real quick with that scumbag who's saying some nasty stuff about you and the missus, you know you're over the target when you start taking flack.
	So you're pressing the right buttons.
	Just keep it up.
	It's like, really?
	He's short and fat and he thinks he can get away with it on a podcast.
	Could you imagine if Robert Barnes had the balls to say that to my face?
	I've lost weight, but I'm still 225 and I'm six foot three.
	That sad sack would wet his pants.
	He'd probably crap his pants at the same time.
	Yes sir.
	Just a quick question.
	In your personal opinion, how long would it take the CCP to shut down grade A American pure crack cocaine that's being trucked across their border to kill 100,000 Chinese communists per year?
	How long would it take the CCP to shut that down and why is Biden letting that happen with Chinese fentanyl coming across our border?
	This is perhaps the most reprehensible aspect of the last two and a half years.
	The fact that we know.
	The fact that I can talk about this.
	That this isn't super secret or classified.
	You can read about this in the conservative press.
	We know, Phil.
	The Chinese are selling the precursors for fentanyl to the Mexican cartels and the Mexican cartels are now bringing it across the border in such amounts some of the busts are enough fentanyl to kill all Americans.
	And we now know that in the first 12 months, under the Biden open border regime, more than 110,000 Americans were killed from illicit drugs, including fentanyl.
	That's more than all the Americans killed in war since 1945.
	And that is a direct result of the man who's aiding and abetting the cartels from the White House.
	And of course, don't forget the Vice President, because remember, the cackler Remember the cackler?
	She is the point person.
	She was named the border czar for Biden.
	So it's on her as well.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	Thank you, Phil, for a great call.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	I was at the top.
	Oh, okay.
	Yes!
	Do you want to do it here?
	Or... Yes!
	Alrighty.
	Hang on, is there anywhere else I can do it?
	Donald's and... Fensman B, Donald's D... No, no, don't worry about it.
	I've got it on my pages of play in a second now.
	Okay.
	What was I going to say?
	Oh, did I send you details about Clavin's daughter, Geoff?
	No.
	Alright, so she's written a book about Disney and I'd like to get her on the show.
	We could do like three segments, okay?
	I'm sending you... Her name... I don't know what's her married name.
	Let's have a look.
	Oh, and let's get both of the Sorbows together for one segment.
	Okay.
	Probably in a segment.
	Um, well, whatever, however it works.
	I don't know, I don't want it in an A segment.
	Just when we've got another, you know, one segment person, give them a D. Or something.
	Or a B.
	30 seconds.
	You wanna come in with something real quick here, or?
	The cut 12 is really short.
	What's 12?
	That's uh... Yeah, that's good, let's do that.
	Coming up tomorrow.
	Let's go back to the beginning.
	Let's go back to that poll.
	Trump with a nine point lead over President Biden in that poll.
	And whatever caveats, whether that is an outlier, that's a tough one to spin.
	They can't even do math.
	That's Martha Raddatz.
	Tough to spin.
	Can you put the poll up on the screen for people so we can do some really advanced math here?
	This is the poll.
	Washington Post ABC that is making leftist heads implode today.
	Let's see if we can do this math.
	Hang on a second.
	The red column is a 5 and a 2.
	That's, is that 7?
	No, no, that's 52% for President Trump.
	The blue column is a 4 and a 2.
	That's 42%.
	So hang on a second.
	Gotta do my Gazinters.
	Differential.
	Math.
	Some equations.
	Long division.
	Throw in some algebra.
	Hang on a second.
	52 minus 42... 10!
	I got it!
	What do you think?
	Can I have a... Eric, is that right?
	Is it 10?
	Is 52 minus 42 10?
	Math was never my strong suit, so my answer was way off from what you just came up with.
	But that is indeed the correct answer.
	Alright, let's talk to an engineer.
	Alex, 52 minus 42.
	I don't want to hurry you because we've only got two minutes left till the top of the hour.
	52, I think is...
	Minus 42.
	I think it's 10.
	Can you help?
	You're the science guy.
	What is it?
	That's a whole 10 percent, Dr. G. Whoa.
	Well, let's have a second opinion, like we're at the doctor's.
	Guy, you are a tech wizard, okay?
	You must know all that science-y stuff.
	So, 52 percent, take away 42, leaves you how much percent?
	Yes, sir.
	52 minus 42 is a rounded 10 percent.
	Around.
	Look how diplomatic he is.
	Around 10%.
	All right, let's play that cut again from Martha Raddatz, who can't do the big math.
	Let's try again.
	Let's go back to that poll.
	Trump with a nine point lead over President Biden in that poll.
	And whatever caveats, whether that is an outlier, that's a tough one to spin.
	I just realized, Jeff, she works for ABC, right?
	Martha Raddatz, that's ABC.
	Correct.
	It's her poll.
	Yes, their own polling.
	It's the Washington Post slash ABC poll, and they can't even get the math of 52 minus 42 right.
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	I mentioned the word diabolical a moment ago.
	We are.
	We are in a war against the dark one.
	It's not a question.
	It's not a question at all.
	I can provide the empirical evidence for you.
	This video came upon across my transom recently.
	It's a little long, it's a couple of minutes, but it is all the proof you need.
	I think two guys, a white guy and a black guy, on a college campus, just preaching the word of the Lord, talking about Jesus and trying to get people interested in saving their eternal souls.
	Because if you're a Christian, that's what it's about.
	Love thy neighbor, sure, but what is it ultimately about?
	Why?
	Why is it built upon love?
	Because we want everyone to live forever.
	We don't want you to go to hell.
	We don't want you stuck in purgatory.
	We want you to have a real relationship with your Lord and Creator.
	That's what matters.
	There is no life without Him.
	There is nothing without Him.
	The smartest scientists in the world think about that.
	They can explain how to make a nuclear bomb.
	They can replace a defective heart, literally, take out your old heart and replace it with another one, but they can't tell you where life came from.
	Isn't that interesting?
	Like, they can't tell, oh, the Big Bang, okay, but why was there a Big Bang?
	They can't tell you.
	They can't explain to you things like love.
	You can talk to a biologist, You can talk to a physicist, you can talk to a psychiatrist, you can talk to any kind of scientist you wish.
	None of them, none of them, not one of them, not Einstein, not Ben Carson, none of them can explain to you where life came from, how the universe was created, or why you love your wife.
	They can't explain it.
	That's why God exists.
	And there are those who have strayed so far from the path that they've allowed the Prince of Darkness into their soul.
	And here's one of them.
	Apparently, she's a professor of the college where this occurred.
	I can't verify that, but I know that after what she did to that young preacher, she was arrested.
	But listen.
	I'll describe afterwards everything you miss if you're not watching.
	But just listen, especially to what she says about an unborn life that she joyfully took.
	God loves you.
	God loves you, man.
	It is the love of God.
	Or why you're angry.
	Or why you're mad.
	How you doing, young lady?
	I had an abortion two years ago and I don't regret it at all.
	They yanked the fetus out of my uterus?
	They yanked the fetus out of my uterus and I'm so happy.
	Okay.
	I'm so grateful.
	Okay.
	And I'm a professor at this university.
	Okay.
	And I make more money than you.
	Okay.
	And what else?
	What's your name?
	That's none of your business.
	I mean, we're being cordial here.
	You hear?
	You got my mic.
	We're being cordial, right?
	Yeah, we're being cordial.
	We're being cordial.
	My name is Ricky Castor.
	Nice to meet you.
	Is that, you just came up here to tell us your business?
	Without giving us your name?
	Yeah.
	That's what I did.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	Well, we'll pray for you.
	Okay?
	We'll pray the Lord save you.
	Thank you.
	No problem.
	I wish I knew your name so we can know where to pray.
	Well, either way.
	Either way.
	Your soul.
	You kind of ruined everybody's lunch.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	You took the cord out?
	Yeah, I took the cord out.
	You want to give me my mic back?
	Please give me my mic back, please.
	Please, young lady.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Have a good day, okay?
	You're not stronger than me, all right?
	God bless you.
	God bless you.
	Hey, officer!
	This young lady, she's trying to rip my stuff up!
	Oh, I'm assaulting him.
	She's taking his stuff.
	Come here.
	I have it on video.
	I'm assaulting him?
	Yes.
	You're very angry about your abortion.
	Yeah, let go of myself.
	Okay, if I get arrested right now, I would literally laugh out loud.
	Why are you touching his equipment like that?
	Hi!
	No, it's not.
	Okay, you should probably let him have the stuff that he has.
	Can I?
	Am I assaulting him?
	So you need to let go right now or you're under arrest.
	Walk away right now.
	I already said I was going to let it go.
	I have a question for you, Bartman.
	Mr. Bartman, am I assaulting him by holding this cord?
	Can I get my stuff?
	Can I get my stuff, ma'am?
	We'll go talk, but we're gonna do it over here.
	Can I ask a question?
	Of course.
	Let go right now.
	Let go right now.
	Yes or no?
	Let go right now.
	Yes or no?
	Yes or no?
	You're under arrest.
	Put your hands behind your back.
	We pray for the grace of God for you.
	I want to get to know you.
	833-33-GORKA.
	833-33-GORKA 833-33-46-752 A couple of nuggets from what that black alleged professor
	said.
	She started by saying, I had an abortion two years ago.
	The fetus was yanked out of my uterus and I'm very happy.
	And then she repeated it.
	The fetus was yanked out of my uterus and I'm so grateful.
	Then she assaulted the man.
	She grabbed his microphone, tried to pull it away from him.
	Oh, and then she also said, I earn more than you.
	What a weird thing to say.
	What a creepy thing to say.
	So a black man is talking about the love of Jesus on your campus.
	So you say, number one, I'm happy about the abortion I had.
	Number two, I'm a professor here and I earn more than you.
	And then the third thing, when you realize, you know, the devil doesn't know how to imitate humans.
	Properly, because he is the devil, he's not a human.
	And then she says something that you know that she's possessed.
	She says, you're spoiling all of our lunches.
	Excuse me?
	A man standing on the campus saying Jesus loves you, and that's ruining your lunch?
	But talking about fetuses being yanked out of your uterus, no, that doesn't spoil anybody's lunch, does it, Madam Professor?
	And then, God bless those two police officers who said, LET GO OF HIS PROPERTY!
	Or we will arrest you.
	And they warned her, four times.
	She refused to comply, and she was walked off in handcuffs.
	Thank you, to those two officers.
	But it's all you need to know.
	The most important thing.
	As a great theologian once said, the greatest thing the devil ever achieved was to convince most Americans that he doesn't exist.
	Oh, he's real.
	And he was inside her soul.
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	You Getting it's so refreshing to see police officers do their
	jobs and arrest the right person so that was not nice that was a satisfying ending for sure
	We will arrest you.
	And then they did.
	There was like one other I saw of like some college campus, it was a white girl, like she went to like a pro-life demonstration, she took one of their signs, picture of a fetus or whatever, she started walking away with it, and the guy filming was just like, uh, officer, officer, there's an officer nearby.
	Catches her, stops her, and he's like, where are we going with this man's property?
	And she's like, oh, um, I was just moving it, like, I was just moving it, and finally he's like, well, you did commit burglary, or robbery, so I'm gonna have to arrest you.
	And she just starts crying, and is like, no, no, please, let me go, let me go, like, it was beautiful.
	That's when life comes at you fast.
	Alright, I have both of his books.
	Great.
	Put them on the screen.
	This was the first one.
	America's covert.
	There we go.
	And then, what does it run?
	The newest one, Overrun.
	Yup.
	Ah, that picture.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	He's not answering, his phone is off.
	His phone is off?
	Yeah.
	Oh, come on, dude.
	Good.
	Screen's going.
	Two minutes.
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	Alright.
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	Hey Todd!
	Hey.
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	Work it out while I'm doing LA.
	I'm going to go low.
	Alright.
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	Men who are cheating, who are destroying the sports careers of young women in college and in high school.
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	Audio.
	Okay, good.
	Let's connect to the author of numerous works on the border.
	The first one was America's Covert Border War.
	The most recent is Overrun.
	That is how Joe Biden unleashed the greatest border crisis in U.S.
	history.
	Sadly, a subtitle that is not an overstatement.
	Todd Bensman, welcome back to America First.
	Great to be here.
	Right, so it's escalated.
	It's even worse than it was when we discussed these issues six months ago, a year ago.
	I don't know even where to begin.
	Let's start with how many terrorists were identified on the terror watch list crossing our borders recently, Todd?
	That number's up to about 270 now, now that we've got the August numbers in.
	Since the inauguration of Joe Biden.
	This is a historic record.
	Huge, huge record.
	Unbelievable.
	And these are only the ones that we know of, correct?
	Of course.
	Well, I mean, 1.8 million gotaways are on the books, so who knows what's in the mix in that 1.8 million.
	That's a lot of people.
	That's also a historic number by far in U.S.
	history for gotaways.
	Let's tackle the key shell game aspect of all of this, Todd.
	When we have the likes of the press secretary, the likes of Mayorkas, the likes of Kamala and Biden say the border has never been more secure, there are far more illegals, well they don't even say illegals, they say migrants, under the Trump administration.
	My explanation for that It's very simply the DHS app that illegals can download, and when they're outside of the country, they can pre-clear themselves as asylum seekers.
	And when they step into America, it's just a relabeling.
	They're no longer illegals, according to Biden.
	They're people who are being processed as asylum seekers, and that's how they lie.
	Is that the biggest part of the lie?
	You said that, you characterized that exactly right.
	But I would just add that they lied with a past tense on it because now that's no longer the case.
	The illegal aliens are falling off the line and crossing illegally now in huge numbers.
	We had 180,000 of them right back up to normal.
	So they're not even pre-clearing themselves, they're just being let in?
	Yeah, they're just there.
	Some of them are still coming through the CBP one app.
	We in the last year or so we've had 225,000 fly from foreign countries into US airports, 43 different US airports.
	For example, there's 220,000 right there that nobody's counting.
	But now they're just crossing illegally because they don't want to wait in line and they're getting in just the same.
	So we're the numbers are going up.
	to where the intelligence community just six months ago predicted we'd be at, the numbers that everybody thought was catastrophic.
	There was a brief pause, but now we're there, right where the intelligence community said.
	10,000 a day, 12,000 a day.
	We even had a 14,000 day last week.
	I expect that to continue.
	So did the intelligence community.
	They were right.
	And can you explain this news last week about Biden amnestying or giving some kind of status to more than 400,000 Venezuelans?
	What's that story about, Todd?
	Well, that's one of the most preposterous things I've heard yet.
	They are giving temporary protected status to Venezuelans, which prevents anyone from deporting them back to Venezuela, as though they need protection from being sent to dangerous Venezuela.
	The truth is that very, very few of those protected Venezuelans were living in Venezuela for years.
	Okay, okay, this is crucial.
	Explain that.
	Explain how these quote-unquote Venezuelans weren't in Venezuela and why not sending them back doesn't make even any logical sense.
	Right.
	I've reported elaborately about this with Direct face-to-face interviews with multitudes of Venezuelans who tell me that they haven't lived in Venezuela in years.
	In fact, they were living in 15 different countries around Venezuela, including in the Caribbean, safely, comfortably, with asylum, with residency, working businesses, being prosperous, not in any danger whatsoever, like in Colombia or Ecuador.
	They saw the door was open to the United States and they went for it, for an upgrade.
	But they certainly are not coming from Venezuela.
	They don't need protection from being deported to Venezuela because they haven't lived there in like a half a decade or longer.
	And what does that protected status afford them?
	It means that we can't We can't deport them to Venezuela, the place that they haven't lived in a decade.
	So is this like a quasi amnesty in that case?
	Absolutely.
	And they will get renewed over and over again.
	20 years from now, they'll still be getting renewed, like we are renewing Hondurans and El Salvadorans from earthquakes and hurricanes that happened three decades ago.
	We're still renewing them.
	That's temporary protected statuses is exactly the opposite.
	It's like 1984 temporary protected statuses.
	It's like all temporary government programs that end up becoming permanent parts of the bureaucracy.
	We've been talking to the Senior Fellow of the Center for Immigration Studies, Todd Bensman.
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	Title for that one.
	Thank you.
	How Biden hid the invasion numbers.
	Hid the, I'm sorry?
	Invasion numbers.
	Invasion numbers.
	Very good.
	My pillow.
	Invasion.
	So true.
	My pillow, okay.
	Alright, what have we done?
	We've done... We haven't done Christie, we need to do Pence... Oh, come in with nine, and then we'll go to the calls.
	And with nine. And then pillow after that.
	Mm hmm.
	One.
	Two and a half minutes.
	So...
	Senator Menendez.
	It was Dominican Republic, right?
	Where he's from?
	No, no, no, no, no.
	He's from Cuba.
	I was gonna say.
	What about Dominican Republic?
	The underage prostitute.
	Oh, I think so?
	Could be wrong.
	That was a while back.
	That was like 2015?
	2012, I think.
	Yeah, that was a while back.
	He got re-elected after all that.
	I'm going to get out of here.
	I'm almost positive it's Dominican Republic.
	I got it.
	I found it.
	I got it.
	That was once a thing, yeah.
	Not in your shop.
	Caesar Shop.
	Caesar Shop is caused by the head of one of those militias in Baltimore, California.
	As a matter of fact, he hated people.
	So he and his militia would beat him with an inch of their life and throw him back where he was.
	Like, get the fuck out of Baltimore.
	Which he was eventually sentenced to.
	You know, one of the things that he did.
	. . .
	. . .
	. .
	.
	Take, for example, the border.
	This issue, you think, has great primacy, and I would agree with you.
	The Department of Homeland Security appropriations bill was passed out of the Appropriations Committee in June, and yet Kevin McCarthy hasn't put it on the floor in more than a hundred days.
	That is not serious.
	You know why Kevin McCarthy didn't move our border appropriations bill?
	Because the lobbyists and the special interests who own Kevin McCarthy want to put us in this position where we're backed up against the wall facing shutdown politics and what that does is it centralizes power to the people that they buy off with PAC donations and lobbyist donations and then the membership doesn't get to make real contributions to that process.
	This isn't backing down.
	He is saying that Kevin McCarthy is bought and paid for.
	The lobbying interests mean he isn't going to take serious action on the border.
	We'll see about impeachment inquiry that starts this week.
	In the meantime, let's go to your courts.
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	All right, let's go down the line.
	Let's go to Ken, Line 1, Pensacola, Florida.
	Good afternoon, Dr. Gorsha.
	Greetings.
	I've been listening all day to different talk shows.
	No.
	So your little clip a few minutes ago, the lady who was proud that she got an abortion,
	Yep.
	shame on her.
	Absolutely shame on her.
	My biggest deal with those people, you know, they want to brag and do things like that
	and they want to burn people's properties down, but they don't want to show their faces
	or give their names.
	My name is Ken Lipsey and I'm here.
	I'm a full-fledged Republican, and I'm proud of it.
	Good.
	Well, God bless you.
	Yeah, it is one of the key things about these people, whether it's Antifa or the scumbags on social media, they hide.
	They hide their faces behind masks and their names behind fake avatars.
	Why?
	Because they're cowards and because they know they are wrong.
	Thank you, Ken.
	Let's go to Rick in Phoenix, Arizona, line two.
	Magnificent Monday to you, Dr. Gorka.
	I like that.
	Magnificent Mondays.
	Thank you.
	Yes, sir, because you're the leader of the Magnificent Seven.
	You've got seven people in the studio, right?
	Seven.
	We'll make it up.
	We've got one, two, three, four, five, six.
	Who's the seventh?
	Yeah, John in Florida.
	Oh.
	I like that.
	Thank you.
	Good.
	The Magnificent Seven.
	You bet.
	You bet.
	I have a unique manhood hour idea, Dr. Gorka.
	Go ahead.
	But first, I want to compliment you.
	You know, Jill Biden, and a lot of people like her, have disgraced and dishonored the title doctor.
	But you, sir, have restored honor, respect, and dignity to that title, Dr. Gorka.
	You are very kind, but the fact is she isn't even a doctor.
	She is an ED, a doctorate of education, which nobody, even in academia, nobody refers to a PhD in education as a doctorate.
	But you're very kind, Rick.
	Thank you.
	I think we're going to say thank you to Rick.
	Stay on the line and send him Let's send him one of our mugs, the president's mugshot, the shot heard around the world, the booking photograph with a very simple phrase, Trump 2024.
	We're going to get one free for Rick.
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	Let's go to Cheryl, Idaho, Ohio, line three.
	Hello, Dr. Gorka.
	Hang on, hang on.
	What happened to Rick?
	Did we lose Rick?
	Did he not stay on the line?
	What happened there, Jeff?
	I saw the line go down.
	He's on it?
	He's got it good.
	I was worried there.
	Sorry, carry on, Cheryl.
	It is Yom Kippur.
	It is.
	And the Day of Atonement, Day of Forgiveness.
	Yes.
	That clip actually moved my heart, okay?
	God, that woman turned her back on God, and He will give her exactly what she wants.
	And she's on her own and free to destroy herself, and that is the worst judgment of all, okay?
	No, that's beautiful.
	She exchanged the truth for a lie.
	For a lie!
	No, Cheryl, you're a genius.
	The idea that I just talked about yesterday's sermon, I talked about envy, I talked about people on our side who are driven by envy, but then you linked it to today's Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur and the concept of atonement.
	Stand the line, Cheryl.
	Let's get Cheryl a signed copy of Defeating Jihad, the book that propelled me to the White House.
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	You You
	You ...
	...
	Joe Biden is in violation of federal immigration law, in my view.
	And it's not just immigration law.
	The student loan bailout was a violation of separation of powers.
	There was no ability for the President of the United States to appropriate money to a program without Congress.
	Nancy Pelosi is on the record saying that multiple times, but he did it anyway.
	And he was defeated by the Supreme Court, and now his administration is trying to find another way to do it.
	That is Byron Donalds of Florida.
	We're going to speak to him momentarily, then back to your calls.
	Don't go anywhere, Mike and Mario.
	But just a little wake up.
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	All right, I teed him up in the first hour of the show.
	He's finally here from Florida, the one, the only, Byron Donalds.
	Welcome, Congressman.
	Hey Sebastian, how you doing?
	I'm good because we have, I believe, what is it, Thursday this week?
	The impeachment inquiry hearings will begin.
	We've been waiting many, many months for this.
	It's not an impeachment, it's an inquiry.
	But as we played in your cut, there's so many things to impeach the current incumbent on.
	I'm curious to hear what your advice is to your own party.
	What should Americans be told and what needs to be the focus Well, I mean, first, everybody, I think, at this point, knows about the pay-for-play scheme, the web of corruption, frankly, the bribery that has existed.
	And I think when it comes to that, we have to actually find the money, chase the bank accounts, and run all that to ground.
	I think it's important for people to understand that Joe Biden doesn't actually need to have had a dollar sent to him.
	I mean, it's really as simple as if his son was spending money on his behalf, like the son Hunter Biden told his daughter he had been doing, that's enough for bribery.
	You don't actually have to have it sitting in your house in a jacket with gold bars like Bob Menendez has it right now.
	So that's, that's, I think that's number one.
	Number two, I believe there is clearly, um, A violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act by Hunter Biden, and Joe Biden helped facilitate that violation of FARA.
	So that's charge number two.
	And then number three, you talk about the lawlessness of this president.
	It is high crimes and misdemeanors, in my view, for the president of the United States to just blatantly violate and ignore federal law.
	he's done that with student loans, his asylum program, which has opened up our borders to
	migrants from all over the world, which is squeezing budgets and causing stress for blue
	cities, for blue states, red states, red cities, doesn't matter.
	All that is a violation of our asylum provisions in federal law, because Congress never contemplated
	using asylum like this when they put the asylum provisions in place.
	And so those are all the things that I view are impeachment vehicles.
	We should look at all of them.
	Let me ask you a technical question on the first issue of the pay for play that you said
	you don't have to have any of the tens of millions of dollars that came into the 20
	Biden shell companies actually go to a Joe Biden bank account.
	What is the correct response?
	Because originally, what did they tell us?
	The Democrats, the White House said for two and a half years he had no discussions.
	With Hunter Biden about his businesses.
	Had no knowledge of what he was doing.
	Then we know that he had lunches with them.
	We've got the photographs from Cafe Milano.
	We've got the sworn testimony of his business associate that he was on at least 20 conference calls with Hunter Biden's business associates.
	So then what happened?
	Your Democrat colleague from New York Did a bait-and-switch.
	He said, well, Hunter Biden wasn't selling access.
	He was selling the appearance, the illusion of access.
	What is the GOP response to that shell game?
	My response is that when you're talking about corruption, and public corruption for that matter, it doesn't matter if you're actually selling it or the actual illusion of it.
	That does not matter.
	The fact is that Hunter Biden was getting all this money because he could call his daddy at any given time.
	And daddy was more than willing to answer the phone and come to dinner.
	That's selling access.
	That's exactly what it is.
	And it's public corruption in my view because they were taking this money through the back door He was never licensed to represent foreign entities, foreign countries, foreign businesses, never licensed to do that, which is a pure violation of federal law.
	They threw Paul Manafort in jail for that.
	That's what Hunter Biden was doing, and Joe Biden knew it the entire time.
	And so you don't get to plead ignorance on this.
	He is a co-conspirator, and I think that that's an impeachable offense.
	Will the GOP, will the relevant chairman actually subpoena Hunter himself?
	What is your expectation, Congressman?
	I think it's a matter of time.
	Look, let me talk about one thing.
	I know it's been brought up about how Don Jr.
	was subpoenaed three times by Nancy Pelosi.
	First of all, Nancy Pelosi is lawless.
	She did not care about the rules of procedure or evidentiary procedure or what was even just, you know, basic normal politics.
	She just wanted to get Donald Trump by any means necessary.
	The position of House Republicans has always been that we are going to follow the evidence.
	And so the evidence has not dictated us bringing in Hunter Biden yet, but we're pretty close to that point.
	And I think once you can show the wire transfers or handoffs or the checks or whatever we're going to find, credit card payments, whatever, once you can start to find that stuff on Hunter Biden, now it's basically saying, hey man, you got to come in and answer questions to Congress.
	And the other thing that we got to be prepared for is the fact that the Department of Justice is probably going to try to say that all this is under investigation.
	So you can't bring him in.
	We're not discussing a criminal matter in Congress.
	We're discussing a political matter, and the political matter is the potential impeachment of Joe Biden.
	Correct.
	Perfectly put.
	He is the Congressman for the 19th District of Florida.
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	I have that gates cut now if you want it.
	Oh good.
	Yeah.
	It's pretty short.
	Play it.
	Give me a moment.
	It's like 28 seconds.
	Gotta download it.
	Call it 17.
	What about the January 6th?
	Kevin promised he was going to release those.
	I'm still waiting.
	Well, the January 6th tapes are available to anybody who wants to see them.
	He gave them and allowed Tucker Carlson and his team to see them.
	That's not true!
	How is it that it is true?
	Maria, they are not available to anyone who wants to see them.
	That is a factual misstatement.
	They have been curated for some- Coming with that.
	That's good.
	Spicy!
	I'm surprised from Bart Oromo of all people.
	Why, Kevin's her buddy.
	I never knew that.
	That's... You didn't see the stories about the fact that they're having an affair?
	Wait, really?
	Yeah.
	I thought that was a joke.
	That's a meme, right?
	I don't know if it's a meme.
	Somebody accused him.
	I don't think it's true, but... Well, McCarthy's been accused of having affairs in the past, to be fair.
	Like, that was what derailed his first speaker bid back in 2015.
	Really?
	He just suddenly said, yeah, out of nowhere, someone suddenly accused him of having an affair with another member of Congress.
	Like, the name never came out, but like... Not just... Because remember, when Boehner resigned, it was going to be McCarthy.
	And then suddenly that happened, and he didn't run, and that's why we got Paul Ryan.
	What do we know about Congressman Ben Kline?
	No idea.
	Because every day he DMs me, tweets, that he wants me to retweet.
	Jeff?
	How was the Unlarry show?
	I'm going to play it again.
	What about the January 16th?
	Kevin promised he was going to release those.
	I'm still waiting.
	Well, the January 6th tapes are available to anybody who wants to see them.
	He gave them and allowed Tucker Carlson and his team to see them.
	That's not true.
	How is it that it is true?
	Maria, they are not available to anyone who wants to see them.
	That is a factual misstatement.
	They have been curated for some people in the media and some defense attorneys, but any American cannot see any of the January 6th tapes.
	That is a false statement.
	That was the other cut from Maria Bartiromo I wanted today between Matt Gaetz.
	Got a little bit spicy yesterday on her show.
	I love both of those people, Matt Gaetz and Maria.
	Come on, guys.
	But the fact is, yeah, you can't access the J6 videos.
	They're on a couple of terminals on Capitol Hill, and you need the congressional permission every day to get in there and access them.
	And ask Julie Kelly.
	She told us the truth about it.
	All right, let's go to your calls.
	Line 4, Mike, Detroit.
	Oh yeah, Dr. Gorka.
	You know, I lived on the border for years, and I can tell you, you know, people wonder why these people feel entitled to come here and game our system.
	Well, you know, they come from failed narco-states, they're failed socialist states, they're corrupt and incompetent, and they blame all of their problems on the United States, you know, the great Satan of Latin America.
	I mean, they really do.
	And they come here, they're the perfect recruits for Antifa, I don't buy that, Mike.
	I don't buy that.
	I'm sorry.
	These are people who just want to sponge off the system.
	They want to get paid for cash.
	I don't believe their ideologues.
	I don't think they think America is the great Satan.
	Why would you come here if you believe America is the great Satan?
	Yes, you're right.
	Their countries are holes, as President Trump said, and that's why they're coming here.
	But the idea that they're all anarchists, sorry, I don't buy it.
	Mario, Philadelphia.
	Mario, you're up!
	Mario, where's Mario?
	Come on, Mario.
	All right, you'll have to call back.
	In the meantime, let's have some fun with Krispy Kreme!
	Chris Christie, forget something about a certain poll.
	What he wants to do is trash 45, because that's who he is.
	Cut! 11.
	The fact is that national polls don't matter.
	We don't have a national primary.
	If you look at Donald Trump in the latest polls in both Iowa and New Hampshire, the two earliest states, he is barely at 40 in Iowa and he is under 40 at 34 and at 38 in New Hampshire.
	That means that between 60 and 65 percent of Republican voters in those two very important early states want an alternative.
	Okay, he was barely at 40% in Iowa.
	Jeff, what was Chrisby at in Iowa, in that same poll?
	Yeah, I went and looked at that poll.
	Barely at 40.
	Trump was at 46.
	That's not barely at 40.
	That's 46.
	Okay, 46.
	Yeah, and Chris was at 3.
	And what was Chrisby at?
	3%.
	30.
	30, you mean.
	33.
	What was Chris B at?
	No, 3.
	3?!
	3%.
	30.
	30, you mean.
	33.
	No, 3.
	3?!
	Yeah, so his math, that means 97% of the people don't want him to be the nominee.
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	Push the envelope.
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	With a man who, whenever he comes on the show regularly, that seven-minute segment just isn't enough.
	And I know you agree with me.
	He's fought the swamp creatures in Washington D.C.
	in Congress, but he's not a politician.
	He's a patriot, and now he's preparing the next generation of patriots at that superb institution, Liberty University.
	As the dean of their business school, Professor Dean Dave Bratt.
	What a luxury to have you for the whole hour.
	Hey, great to be on for a whole hour.
	Love talking to Zeb.
	You run a great show.
	This manhood hour looks awesome.
	The country sorely needs it.
	All right.
	Well, let's save it right now, at least as much as we can in the next 60 minutes.
	You are a regular also on my White House colleague, Steve Bannon show.
	And what you bring to the table, because as what is it called?
	Economics is called the dismal science as a late great economist told me once, he said, economics, that's the
	science of proving that water runs downhill.
	You are one of the few, along with our buddy Stephen Moore, who actually makes it interesting
	and makes it relevant because you put it in the broader context of everything happening in our
	civilization and you give it also a religious context. The great Michael Novak was so sorely
	He said, guys, you can't understand economics and you can't understand capitalism or free markets unless you talk about the moral compass.
	This isn't about making money.
	It's also about having a moral compass in the things that you do in the business sphere.
	And I know that's what you bring to the classroom and to everything you do at the business school.
	But can we just start at that super high level, please, Professor?
	Why is it important to, if we're looking at the assault on Western civilization and the assault on manhood is just a part of that, why is it so important for us not to just focus on what's happening right now with inflation rates and the border, but to talk about morality, the Christian ethic, and the historic legacy that we are actually talking about?
	Why is that important?
	Basically because it's true and it's real.
	And so right now in this country, we have a whole generation, the youth, suicide rates going up, mental health issues that are significant.
	When I was growing up, you know, mental health was just a very, very serious, you know, cases and they seem to be kind of at the tail.
	of the distribution.
	But right now, we have generations and masses of people living with no meaning in their life, with no anxiety, you know, with high anxiety, because of that they don't know truly who they are.
	Right.
	And so modern America and consumerism and, you know, narcissism and egoism, and you wake up going, me, me, me, it's all about me.
	If you're living out that life, eventually you run into the wall.
	You will run into a wall because that life cannot produce true happiness, right?
	Happiness in the classical sense.
	That's what we're going to dig into here.
	The true meaning in life comes from having a purpose.
	If you read the great books, right?
	And the Bible's the greatest book.
	I mean, it starts off with creation and then Abraham.
	And Abraham's living kind of a comfortable life, lounging under the tents.
	And, you know, it's, you know, he wasn't wealthy like we are today, but he was taken in.
	God called him up and said, Abraham, you're about ready to go on a journey with me.
	And this characterizes especially the male story, right?
	The young men out there listening and the older men know they've been called.
	You feel a calling.
	You go on a journey and the hero emerges if you make the right choices, if you make the virtuous choices, which are usually the harder choices to make in life.
	You don't just take the easy way out.
	And in doing so, you experience pain and suffering sometimes.
	But then you heal and you grow stronger and that informs who you are, your identity, and you look back at yourself and that builds a true self-esteem, right?
	And then you go to the book of Exodus and all the young people out there listening, I'd recommend Jordan Peterson just finished a panel of about six major brainiacs in himself.
	Yeah.
	And he had Dennis Prager on there who's an orthodox practicing Jew who wrote two books, one's called Rational Genesis and And one's called Rational Exodus, and he holds everyone's feet to the fire.
	He knows his Hebrew forward and backward.
	And again, Moses, right?
	What a call!
	He's got to go confront the Pharaoh.
	It's the primary story in the Hebrew text.
	He's not the holy of holies.
	He kills someone.
	He complains, he says, who am I?
	I can't speak.
	And God says, I'll take care of that for you, right?
	And so he ends up with the exodus, right?
	The freedom from bondage, the freedom from slavery of the Jewish people in the formation of Israel.
	And just through heroic works and deeds, the Ten Commandments, the ten plagues, the miracles along the way, the cloud by day, the pillar of fire of God leading them by night.
	And those are the stories that capture the Western imagination now as people look for meaning in their life.
	And those stories also lead us all the way up to the modern period, right?
	The founders, I made reference to the biblical stories more than any other book by far.
	Witherspoon, the president of Princeton, trained in 15% of the signers of the Declaration of Independence, one of whom, you know, the author of the Constitution is James Madison.
	He went to, roughly speaking, Princeton Seminary.
	The seminaries founded all the great schools.
	The seminaries founded Harvard, Yale, Princeton, all the rest of them.
	It's in our DNA.
	We went off and fought Hitler in World War II and still knew what good and evil were.
	Young men signed up and were just heroic at Normandy, etc.
	But in the last 30 or 40 years, the attack you speak of is intentional.
	It's a Marxist attack.
	And the Marxist attack is, of course, built on a no-God story.
	But they don't replace God with anything else.
	They have no philosophical system of weight.
	They have no ethical system.
	They have no human rights in Marxism.
	And yet a lot of the leftists follow this for some reason.
	The liberals are now gone.
	And so right now we're fighting, you know, just nihilism, atheism, narcissism, And so shows like this, which take a few minutes to do a deep dive on meaning in lives on the manhood hour, should just be applauded for restoring stories and meaning to our lives that unite us.
	The left always says, let's compromise and unite.
	Around what?
	What is the left unifying around?
	I got something for us to unify around.
	The idea that God made you, every single person on this planet, you right here listening are made in the image of God.
	And if you're having a bad day, just think about that for a minute.
	Yeah.
	That you have the mind, the soul and the heart of God.
	A light shines in you.
	You need to go on a journey and find what that means.
	And that'll take a lifetime.
	And there's no answer book.
	You're the only one that will know the answers as you go on that journey.
	But that's how I might start off my little explanation of my own life in some sense and some other folks that I've seen go from the ditch to a life of meaning.
	Beautifully put.
	Absolutely beautifully put.
	I think that's the first six minutes of his first lecture to his students.
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	Underneath that, he's got Jesus at the Last Supper.
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	His office is the concatenation, the perfect melding of the principles which made America the pinnacle of Western civilization.
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	Let's talk a little bit about the young men and the young women that you have the honor
	to be educating.
	We've seemingly lost the battle of indoctrination because so much of them, outside of You know, Liberty U, Hillsdale and a few other places actually believe America is the problem and believe that capitalism is the problem.
	Can we just for a moment say someone accidentally, one of these indoctrinated youths has tuned into the program.
	Would you say a few words about capitalism as a form of true liberation and prosperity, professor?
	Yeah, well, you know, capitalism didn't emerge out of nowhere.
	It came solely out of the Judeo-Christian tradition.
	It came solely out of, roughly speaking, Western Europe.
	And for those, you know, young people who don't get history in school, for all of human history, we were run by despots and tyrants and zealots, and most of all humanity were roughly slaves.
	And it's not until freedom emerged, roughly, you know, you had the crackings of Magna Carta at 1215 and the Renaissance and Reformation and some decentralization of governments in Europe, the King of England, etc.
	But roughly speaking, modern economic growth started at 1776.
	And, you know, it's called capitalism today, but it's really freedom.
	It was the freedom agenda that came as a result of the Enlightenment Project also.
	But that Enlightenment Project also only happened in Christian lands, right?
	The Judeo-Christian tradition roughly is the synthesis, bringing together Jewish and Christian revelation in our Bible, along with Greek reason.
	And those two You know, side rails have just kept us in good standing, reasoned together with revelation.
	And so if you're not for freedom and capitalism, you know, what system are you for?
	And just as a reminder, right, income, the income you made per year all the way up till 1700 was $1,000 a year around the world, no matter what culture you were in.
	So that's what I have to say to young people, right?
	If you're against the Freedom Project that brought you a $50,000 on average income today, the rest of world history across all cultures, right?
	If you're, you know, anthropologist, do you like other cultures?
	Good.
	Congratulations.
	But all of those cultures couldn't figure out how to create wealth.
	They were all dirt poor, living at subsistence on roughly potatoes and rice and starches.
	And if you got lucky, you got a rabbit and some carrots.
	Yeah.
	And so that's all the human history until 1776, and then the wealth shot up through the roof, and other countries have copied that cookbook.
	And so what produced that?
	The institutions we've been talking about the whole time here, right?
	Getting a constitution, the rule of law, rights, are essential, right?
	Initially, the founders just had the rights that were God-given, the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
	And no one has to give you those.
	Those rights are given by God.
	And now all the rights we've added right at the back of the United Nations and World Bank tablets, etc.
	Those are unachievable because we've given up.
	Only God can give those rights.
	And as evidence of that, all the rational enlightenment thinkers combined have no followers whatsoever.
	Whereas the traditions in Islam and Christianity alone have 5 billion followers out of 8 billion people on the planet.
	And yet, where are our rights?
	And so it's that grand tradition that's brought us all the success.
	Capitalism is a social choice.
	You have to choose to have a free market system.
	We've always had markets.
	You had the Agora, you had the Jewish people were trading this for that.
	But the free market system was not chosen until roughly 1776.
	And that social choice Made all the difference.
	And now there's a war against it.
	But again, no alternative has been given.
	And that is a major problem.
	And what do you respond to the kids who say, all right, maybe it failed in 42 nations across the world from, you know, Soviet Union to Cuba.
	But the Scandinavian states, they're socialist.
	What do you say to them, Professor?
	Well, I'd say go take a visit right now to Sweden and you're not going to be happy.
	Unfortunately, it always sounds good, right?
	Can we just, well, you know, surely you must care, Professor Brad, about, you know, the poor and we got to just do a little bit more government to take care of them.
	That's a slippery slope.
	And now the slippery slope has been exposed precisely in Europe, where totalitarian regimes are on the rise.
	A spying on their people with total government control, taking away the rights of individuals, especially religious individuals.
	It's noteworthy the heyday of Sweden and Norway and Denmark and Finland, and I'm finishing Swedish.
	A half, and the heyday, that was produced by the Lutherans, as we call it, right?
	The Christians out there.
	And not only that, not only the Christians that built that prosperity, people forget two important things.
	Even if they have massive welfare networks, number one, they built them on the back of basically imperial actions in forms of the West India, you know, the Dutch West India Trading Company.
	Or huge oil fines in the North Sea.
	So if capitalism gives you that option for a little bit to get squishy, sooner or later the money runs out.
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	Professor, it's clear that we're on a precipice if you look at the state of the nation, the
	state of the civilization.
	There are some places pushing back, you know, brave little nations like Hungary and Italy right now.
	I'm going to ask a rude question.
	When it comes to culpability, how did we get to this point?
	Yes, the left had a plan.
	We get it.
	You know, Antonio Gramsci from 1920s all the way through the Frankfurt School, Alinsky and everybody else up to AOC.
	But Professor, Aren't we culpable, aren't conservatives culpable for A, thinking that getting to a point in the 80s where we thought free markets are just about profits and outsourcing is good for Americans and jobs in China will help us, and not only that, the broader point, you're an educator, that we kind of just
	We snoozed through the culture war.
	We woke up one morning and said, oh what?
	You know, they're trying to sexually transition children.
	That didn't happen overnight.
	What is the culpability of our side when it comes to the dire situation we are in today?
	Yeah, well, and I just want to second your initial premise that we're on the precipice.
	And you asked me about Sweden and all that.
	And I'd refer everybody to social media today to the parliament member from Germany who went off and gave the United Nations a piece of her Judeo-Christian ethos.
	And she's on Tucker, and I've seen her all over the place.
	But she let them have it and in essence is doing what you're getting at here.
	She said there's no such thing as partial freedom.
	You're either free or you're not free.
	There's no such thing as partial democracy.
	There's no such thing as partial religious freedom.
	And so yeah, we let it slide.
	I watched it slide.
	I was in academia.
	I should have been sounding the alarms.
	And I was just stunned.
	And, you know, the donor class is still there.
	The donors that give to all the, you know, highfalutin schools are throwing, you know, billion dollar checks at schools who are doing this woke stuff.
	I don't think they still get how serious it is.
	But along the way, you know, the basic premise, like you said, during the 80s, 90s, 2000s was, oh, that's so cute.
	These, you know, these liberals, they got all these cute ideas.
	But there was no sense that this could ever take over.
	Right?
	Everyone, that's a cute little idea.
	You know, that's what liberal arts is for.
	Go challenge your mind.
	You should be challenged and hear alternative stories and narratives and philosophical worldviews.
	But now we see what the project really was, right?
	It was the camel's nose.
	They snuck into the universities and they started in the easy parts.
	And then the hardest part comes at the end where we are now.
	And it's the attack on the Judeo-Christian religion.
	And every fascist in history knows You've got to get rid of any competing God, right?
	They want to be the new gods at the state level.
	They want the state to be God.
	The tyrant always wants to be God.
	And then you've got to get rid of true God Almighty.
	And so that's the project.
	We got lazy.
	In my view, the founders made one mistake.
	They made we the people the sovereign in a political contractual sense in the Constitution.
	But when Franklin and Jefferson duped it out a little bit, And Jefferson wrote, you know, our rights come from God, etc.
	And Franklin said, that sounds a little bit too much of the pulpit.
	Too much of the pulpit.
	I would say these things are just self-evident.
	And they made an error.
	They forgot to put language of the true sovereign God in the legal document.
	Because without that full authority— So you think made in the image of our Creator was too weak?
	Is that right, Professor, you think, made in the image of our creator was self-evident?
	Yeah, they didn't sustain it enough.
	These truths are self-evident.
	The rights to this, this, and this are self-evident.
	Today, they are certainly not self-evident.
	They're being contested, and the folks who believe in those things are being called awful names that I won't get into right here.
	I think we just broke some news here.
	I didn't think that I'd be getting Dave Brat to criticize the founding fathers on The Man Who Died.
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	Let's get down to brass tacks.
	You're not just a man of letters.
	You're not just an educator, dean of the business school at Liberty.
	You've also been the man in the arena, as Teddy Roosevelt said.
	You stepped into politics.
	You won a race that you shouldn't have been allowed to win against a man called Cantor.
	That was the biggest upset of recent years until a guy from from Queens became the president.
	Talk to us about what you learnt in the swamp as a congressman out of Virginia.
	Because you look at the future of the nation and you say, a man has to be responsible.
	A man has to be responsible.
	And we see both sides of the political aisle just acting like drunken sailors on payday.
	Can that be turned around?
	No, not right now.
	I'm somewhat shocked even at the Freedom Caucus right now.
	We have a $7 trillion budget, and they're acting like they're reading the Wall Street Journal editorial today, which is a disaster.
	They're calling the guys on the far right, us, just normal conservatives who want sanity.
	Presbyterian economists, usually we used to be considered boring, but if you have any principles, They call you names.
	And so are they, they will never say they're in support of a $7 trillion budget.
	And they're talking about severe cuts to seven, as far as I see the Freedom Caucus is asking
	for peanuts right now.
	They're not asking for enough cuts.
	And they're down to giving in to, you know, H.R.
	2, just the border bill.
	And even that thing's got some wiggle room in it.
	But they're still funding for the Ukraine war and the military budgets.
	This short-term bill lasted only like 30 or 90 days of spending cuts at 9 percent.
	They were misleading the American people on that.
	And so there are no cuts involved.
	And it's just a swamp as usual.
	And at first I thought you see what the man in the arena, the man who could not and I first thought you're gonna say they wouldn't let me run right the machine.
	I wanted to run for Virginia State Senate.
	And they said no.
	And then I said, Oh, I just want to be in public.
	So I just run for state delegate.
	Yeah, I love public service.
	And they arranged it.
	So there was no election.
	So I said, Who's in charge of this machine thing?
	And they said, well, the guy up there, the canner machine, I said, well, I'm gonna run against the whole thing because I don't like this setup.
	And so, you know, I learned the old fashioned way.
	I was naive.
	I was a liberal arts professor.
	But boy, I got hit in the face 42 times.
	But I knew I wasn't gonna, you know, get dollars from the major donors or the check writers up there in Republican leadership.
	So I just went on the TV and tried to tell the truth every day.
	And I did.
	And then the Republicans ran on going up against me as well.
	They said, you got to compromise.
	And I would talk to very smart people.
	I said, well, the Democrats want a $1.1 trillion deficit back then.
	Now it's $2 trillion.
	The Republicans want a $900 million deficit.
	Should I compromise at a trillion?
	And he said, don't be a smart aleck, Dave.
	And I said, that's my vote in two days.
	I'm asking, should I compromise and do a trillion dollar deficit, right?
	It's just stunning.
	The American people do not get what they're talking about at all when it comes to these figures.
	They're going to wipe out their kids.
	We're $50 trillion in debt in 10 years.
	What I learned is that the left owns the media.
	And trying to go up against the globalist regime, the China regime, all of them require that huge budget to get what they want done, right?
	The green agenda, the leftist energy agenda, they all get paychecks from the federal government.
	The Medicare, Medicaid formularies, the hospital systems, it's hard to think of a sector, big tech are all on the left right now.
	And they got all the money.
	So when you say, do we have a chance?
	We have a chance on the presidential side right now with a leading contender who looks like he's got momentum.
	And it looks like the RFK wing over on the left to share some of the same sentiments, endless wars, and the administrative state knowledge that the American people are acquiring.
	I should have known better.
	I should have known all that stuff.
	I did not.
	Now I know better.
	And so all I can do is encourage the American people to just get educated that this country is in the ditch.
	Listen to Zeb.
	And the other picture behind me is the Oxford library, the Bodleian library I call Banning the Oxford Don, if I want to see him blush.
	So I got to come up with a similar name for Zeb now.
	Well, thank you.
	I'll be at the Oxford Union, the oldest debating society in the world, in November to debate.
	They want me to counter the motion from the floor that the return of Donald Trump is the death of Western civilization.
	So we're gonna have some fun in Oxford.
	Let me ask you, you know, standing by your principles, unlike everybody else in the swamp, where did you learn that?
	Who most influenced your understanding of what it means to be a responsible man, Professor?
	Oh, I think just the You know, the beautiful thing and the difficult thing about the Judeo-Christian tradition is it's a very complex, rich, conservative thing, kind of like Burke.
	It's an organic whole.
	And you learn it by just learning the pieces along life's way.
	And then you test the theory of great writers and thinkers and the biblical witness against your experience and then against public policy and then the effects in the real world.
	And so, you know, the people say, what is Christian ethics?
	Name it in its simplicity.
	Well, you love God and love your neighbor, but it takes a lifetime.
	And I think God meant it that way.
	And so it's just a widespread reading of the great minds and the great figures.
	It's not intellectual.
	It doesn't take a genius.
	Jesus never mentioned, right, You have to go to school.
	It's in the heart.
	A lot of it's in the heart.
	And you need to mimic people who have a good heart and a mind and a soul and all that comes from God.
	I don't really have a quick answer, but that's my formulation at present.
	No, I like that.
	The point you make is well taken.
	You don't need a PhD to be a real man.
	You don't need to go to the Bodleian Library in Oxford to understand what it means to be a responsible, mature man.
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	As the Dean of the Business School at one of the most important institutions in the nation when it comes to creating responsible men, responsible women, Liberty U, we kind of lost at least two generations.
	What do we do with the educational system?
	Is it salvageable?
	Do we have to rely on, you know, three institutions, four institutions like Liberty and Hillsdale?
	Give us a vision of the future and bringing the Amer... We've seen some very interesting trends.
	Charlie Kirk discussed this article with me two weeks ago.
	That young men between 15 and 25 are actually trending conservative.
	Young women are trending the opposite.
	So give us some answers about how we fix this in the future.
	Yeah, well, right now, I mean, in K-12 education, Hanya Shek at Chicago is the leading, you know, economist on education.
	And he's got the, you know, the old guys get to give the simple truth.
	In the last 50 years, the spending is through the roof.
	It's straight up.
	And NAPE test scores are flat as a pancake.
	So there's your K-12 answer, right?
	It's a disaster.
	The school unions, the teachers unions are very powerful.
	The footsteps were heard very loudly in the Virginia State Legislature back when I worked in there 10 years ago, before Congress, etc.
	So the political pressure is for real and it's almost immovable, but The moms have caught on as the charade that's taken place during COVID.
	They started seeing on the video what they were teaching their kids.
	And they had a righteous indignation that just came out, right?
	And so the homeschool movement folks have been crucial in leading and speaking up with courage.
	The moms should be just applauded.
	And then, you know, Tiffany Justice and company have done an outstanding job.
	And so there is a movement now on the higher ed front.
	The donors, the good news right now is ESG in the last week or so they've been taking some serious hits.
	And they've given up on the whole ESG, which is corporate investing in all the woke stuff.
	Yeah.
	I think that is trickling down to the schools now, too.
	And so, you know, for too long, we got lazy, like you said, and we paid attention to just the presidential race or maybe Congress.
	But now conservatives and the grassroots, which is different than the old Republican khaki guys, the grassroots, there's a political realignment going on.
	That is energizing the get out the vote, the local school board settings, the state and local government boards, which are crucial.
	Everyone's starting to participate again, and they're getting educated.
	And so that's what has to happen, right?
	Everybody out there needs to be calling your congressmen and women and giving them serious scolding if they're voting for a $7 trillion budget.
	in our public needs to take their role, you have a role seriously.
	And so yeah, on the educational front, at Liberty, we're sticking to our knitting, but
	the other schools aren't.
	And so it's up to the people to choose not to go to those schools.
	Sticking to our knitting.
	When we were in the White House, we said the adults are back, the real men are back.
	That's what we need all across education.
	And that's why you need to be on top of what your children and grandchildren are learning.
	He's the author of American Underdog, Proof That Principles Matter.
	You can follow him at brateconomics on getter and also make sure that you catch him with regularity on this show and my colleague Steve Bannons.
	Thank you.
	Dean of the business school liberty.edu.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	You've been listening to the manhood hour.

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