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Sept. 11, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: The only lesson from 9/11 that really matters

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	♪♪ American Airlines emergency line, please state your emergency.
	Hey, this is Native American Airlines calling.
	I am monitoring a call in which flight 11, the flight attendant is advising our reps that the pilot, everyone's been stabbed.
	Nobody move.
	Everything will be okay.
	If he tries to make any move, he'll injure himself and the airplane.
	Just stay quiet.
	Nobody move, please.
	We are going back to the airport.
	Don't try to make any stupid noise.
	Hey, can you look out your window right now?
	Yeah.
	Can you see a guy at about 4,000 feet, about five east of the airport right now?
	Looks like he's... Yeah, I see him.
	Do you see a guy?
	Look, is he descending for the building also?
	He's descending really quick, too, yeah.
	Well, that's... 2,500 feet now.
	He just dropped 800 feet in, like, one week.
	That's another situation.
	What kind of airplane is that?
	Can you guys tell?
	I don't know.
	I'll read it out in a minute.
	Another one just hit the building.
	Wow.
	Another one just hit it hard.
	Another one just hit the real estate.
	United 1523, did you hear some interference on the frequency a couple of minutes ago?
	Screaming?
	Yes I did, 797, and we couldn't tell what it was either.
	I also want to give you a heads up, Washington.
	Go ahead.
	United 93, have you got information on that yet?
	Yeah, he's down.
	He's down?
	want to give you a heads up, Washington. United 93. Have you got information on that yet?
	Yeah, he's down. He's down? Yes. When did he land?
	Flight 93 landed?
	No.
	He did not land.
	Down?
	Yeah, somewhere up northeast of Camp David.
	The camp that used to be by the White House is now near the Pentagon.
	I don't know where the hell they're getting their intel.
	I said Washington is no clue, and I called Washington about it.
	They didn't know what the hell was going on.
	Flight 93 is down.
	Flight 93 landed?
	No.
	It's down.
	22 years ago today, the air traffic control communications of that beautiful, clear, Tuesday, sunny morning.
	Events that would change not only the lives of the 3,000 murdered and their families, but of America and the rest of the world.
	The man who was responsible for that city, who was on the ground, who was responsible for getting it back off its knees.
	Probably the greatest mayor of the modern age, along with Teddy Roosevelt.
	We are honored to open today's America First with the one, the only, Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
	Mr. Mayor, welcome to America First.
	Thank you, Sebastian.
	That was beautiful.
	The opening was beautiful.
	Let's start, I don't send questions out in advance and with people like you I don't need to.
	Why New York?
	Why did the terrorists choose New York and why the Twin Towers?
	I believe that they were attempting to attack our financial center, our political center, And in some ways, our social or cultural center, in order to crush us.
	I believe they didn't really understand our financial center and the World Trade Center, which they attempted to attack, remember, in 93.
	Yes.
	And did some damage, but didn't bring it down.
	I think they thought of that as attacking our financial center.
	I think the attacks on the Pentagon was our military, our government, and then the attack on probably the Congress or the White House would have been on our political center.
	So New York, part of it, would represent the financial and the cultural.
	New York is bigger than life.
	In many ways, When people think of the United States outside of the United States, they think of New York.
	Yes.
	Where, for better or worse, the cultural center of the United States.
	And if you can destroy us, you can destroy Washington.
	From their point of view, you've pretty much, you know, done great damage to us.
	And I think they thought they were going to crack our morale.
	Right.
	Well, well, they chose the wrong city and they chose the wrong mayor if they thought they were going to crack America's and the wrong president.
	You know, Bernie Kerik reminded me today that one of the things I said to him In the middle of all this, when we were being, uh, the second building was coming down, I grabbed his arm and I said to him, Bernie, thank God Gore wasn't elected.
	Oh my gosh.
	Just imagine.
	It came out.
	It was like a, um, I mean, I knew that Bush had it in him.
	To give them a response that would stop this damn thing, at least for a while.
	And it's the clip we use from Ground Zero, opening every show of the president saying the people who did this will hear from us and they will hear from us very soon.
	Mr. Mayor, you were incredibly gracious last year.
	You opened your home to me and a film crew and we did a kind of oral history for two hours of what you lived through on that day.
	We'll be playing elements of that through the week, but One thing, we only have you for a few more minutes, and thank you for opening the show with us today.
	Would you say a few words?
	Because for us, this is some of the most iconic images.
	Are you at Ground Zero with the NYPD raid jacket, with an FDNY ball cap on?
	Would you talk to us a little bit about the NYPD and the FDNY that day?
	Oh, I sure will.
	I mean, they were... They were...
	Unbelievable.
	I can just repeat to you something that came up very spontaneously today.
	I met today the son of Chief Gansey.
	Chief Gansey was the head of the fire department.
	He was the highest ranking uniformed officer of the fire department.
	And he ran the entire effort.
	He was in charge and When I got to ground zero, he was the person that I communicated with to make sure everything was coordinated correctly.
	And when I got there, I was shocked to see a man jumping from the 100th floor.
	You remember, we went through that.
	Yes.
	And in fact, to me, that was probably the critical moment that changed my entire perception of what we were dealing with.
	I mean, I've dealt with 100 emergencies before that.
	And I guess I began this with thinking, well, this is another emergency.
	Then all of a sudden I watched this man, I was trans six, jump 100 floors and basically get obliterated on the street.
	I went right up to Chief Gansey and I said, can we get helicopters up there?
	And the chief looked at me very seriously and he said, my men can save everyone below the fire.
	And in that one sentence, he really told me everything.
	What he told me was the people I was looking at up on the roof were dead, which was a horrible feeling.
	I think my stomach dropped when I said that.
	Number two, he told me that his men had pretty much gotten to everybody they could save and that we were going to probably get a lot of people out, which that felt pretty good.
	About three or four years later, the 9-11 Commission Which was critical of some of the effort, but largely auditory, concluded that from the point of view of the police officers and firefighters, they got out 100% of the people they were capable of saving.
	And as a result of that, probably saved about 12,000 lives.
	So what Pete told me turned out to be in the report.
	They saved everyone below the fire.
	Those are the people they could save.
	And they ran and all kind, you know, the pastor ran into the building, the iconic photograph of the pastor's dead body being carried out.
	We salute every single one of them, EMS, the Port Authority officers, FDNY and NYPD on
	this day.
	Thank you, Mr. Mayor, for joining us today.
	Please support this man.
	He is still fighting for America today.
	He has his podcast, Common Sense, with Rudy Giuliani.
	He is on Twitter, at Rudy Giuliani.
	But most important of all, let's support him, because the deep state wants to destroy him.
	He is one of the indictees of Georgia.
	The website to support America's Mayor is rudyfund.com.
	That's rudyfund.com.
	God bless you, Mr. Mayor, and thank you for what you did on that day and what you continue to do for America every single day.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	We will be back after these messages.
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	♪♪♪ We can't wait to see you.
	We will be back after these messages.
	Thank you.
	You The light for and I see I'm just following my orders
	here.
	I have a game plan.
	He may have a game plan.
	He just hasn't shared it with me.
	But I tell you what, I don't know about you, but I'm going to go to bed.
	I just have to follow my orders?
	Who's giving him the orders?
	And then secondly, have you ever heard a president say, and I'm off to bed now.
	I have a brand new piece that's going up on Substack in about 30 minutes about what happens when we don't have leadership.
	How America is unsafe and how the world is unsafe.
	Clinton had four, five, six opportunities to kill bin Laden and he didn't.
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	friend John Solomon, the breaking news he is covering.
	We will discuss the latest here on America First.
	Please make sure you have bookmarked his news empire, justthenews.com.
	Follow him at jsolomonreports.
	But first I'd like to ask him, John, where were you on September the 11th?
	Yeah, I was the Deputy Bureau Chief for AP and I was working the phones after the two planes hit the towers in New York and I was coming over the Memorial Bridge in D.C.
	when the American Airlines plane crashed right behind me.
	I literally saw the fireball and I could feel the thunder from the blast.
	I was on the Memorial Bridge.
	I stopped, took a couple of pictures with a little tiny Ericsson phone I had back in the days before smartphones.
	And then went to work, and I'll never forget that.
	And that morning, I had been talking to Barbara Olsen, who was representing me as a lawyer, because the FBI had just taken my phone records at that point, looking for my sources, and she was representing me.
	And, of course, she died in that plane crash right behind me.
	I'll never forget, like anyone that day, where we were.
	You'll never forget that day, no matter where you are.
	And we can't forget.
	We also can't forget the vigilance that we need to have.
	And I fear today, with Joe Biden not showing up in New York or Washington at all, and sending a Homeland Security Secretary, Mayorkas, who's left the border open, and instead that we sent the wrong message of a lack of vigilance against a much growing threat of terrorism again today.
	So very strange that he's... I don't think he's even appeared yet.
	The current Commander-in-Chief is going to say some words at some airbase in Alaska.
	I think we know why.
	I think if he ended up in New York, we know what New Yorkers would say to him.
	Of course the FBI were after your sources 22 years ago.
	Oh my gosh, that tells the world how much of a true investigative journalist you are.
	All right, let's talk about the latest findings, what you said today.
	The headline is, Blind Eye, Feds Received Waves of Warnings About Hunter Biden But Delivered No Consequences.
	Will you unpack for us this latest story?
	It is pretty remarkable.
	A lot of these stories have come out episodically as we win documents or James Comer gets some documents or a witness comes forward.
	But when you put the pattern together from 2015, May of 2015, when the Morgan Stanley Bank first flagged for the government Hunter Biden's transactions that they thought were suspicious, All the way through the bungled plea deal just a few weeks ago in Delaware, the FBI, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the IRS, the U.S.
	Attorney's Office in New York, the U.S.
	Attorney's Office in Delaware, the Justice Department in Washington, and many others, repeatedly kept getting warrant assignments.
	The Delaware State Police on the gun transaction in 17 and 18.
	Over and over again, the laptop, the FBI informant, The government was getting these signs that somehow,
	Hunter Biden was involved in untoward, suspicious or illegal activities, such as tax evasion,
	and nobody stepped up to create consequences or accountability for him.
	It just kept getting kicked down the road.
	There's a dumped gun in Delaware.
	No one punishes him for that.
	There's a fake or a false statement in a gun thing.
	No one punishes him for that.
	There is a clear evidence that he hadn't been paying taxes at least since 2014 on money he got from Ukraine and Brisma.
	There's no action on that.
	The FBI suggests there's a bribery scheme and they corroborate some of it.
	No action on that.
	What we did today is put together a timeline showing just how many times the United States government
	had knowledge and information and evidence that Hunter Biden was engaged in wrongdoing
	and didn't take action.
	And it's why people like James Comer and Ron Johnson and others are now using the word cover up.
	It isn't just the original behavior of Hunter Biden that's a problem.
	It is now the cover up that's becoming a big part of the story here in Washington.
	Well, everybody, you need to follow John at JSolomonReports.
	You need to check out that story at JustinNews.com.
	You need to watch his show every evening on A Real America's Voice, Justin News, and not noise.
	In all of your research, and people need to see the timeline, is there any smoking gun, is there any evidence of Who was telling them not to respond?
	Who was saying, okay, we know he didn't pay taxes, we know, you know, he lied on his form to buy a handgun, drop the case.
	Is there anything of that ilk?
	The most powerful evidence is that which was given to us by the IRS whistleblowers this summer.
	There's an assistant U.S.
	attorney working for David Weiss that is fingered by the IRS agents as the person trying to cut off their ability.
	You can't interview Joe Biden.
	You can't have a search warrant, even though you meet the standard.
	You can't go interview him.
	Oh, we're going to tip Hunter Biden off.
	And they did tip Hunter Biden off.
	That's the most clear version, but listen, all of this is going to lead back to the Justice Department.
	You get the U.S.
	Attorney in New York, the U.S.
	Attorney in Delaware, the FBI, all receiving significant evidence, and nobody seems to act on it.
	I think Maine Justice, that agency that we keep talking about with the weaponized two-tier system of justice, the Hunter Biden case fits the profile very well.
	We've got a minute left with you, John.
	Gotta get your take because you have such a good sense in your marrow of what's happening in DC.
	We've got a request to have Matt Gaetz on the show tomorrow.
	Do you think all of this, the pressure for impeachment to begin, will bring fruit?
	Are they going to wait until President Trump's trial date is closer?
	What are you hearing or what is your sense of The internal pressures inside Capitol Hill to actually have some consequences to all of the corruption that you have catalogued.
	Yeah, I think the Republican conference in the House is a little bit scattered, right?
	There are some that want it now, some that want it later, some that don't want it at all.
	But I do think all members, even the most moderate members in the New York delegation to the most deep red members like Matt Gaetz, they all realize now Joe Biden lied his way into office and his son may have been involved in really illegal behavior.
	Getting to the bottom of it is going to happen no matter which solution They choose.
	I like the way you put that.
	That's why he's John Solomon.
	He lied his way into office, and that's the key issue.
	He's the author of numerous works, co-authored the book Fallout, Nuclear Bribes, Russian Spies and the Washington Lies that Enriched the Clinton and Biden Dynasties, and more recently, a children's book about the truth and fake news.
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	Next up, a very special guest, big news out of the Commonwealth.
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	you Making sense out of today's nonsense, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
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	Can't talk about it.
	Can't talk about it, but big news.
	How about we chat?
	I say, yeah, let's do it.
	And it is big news.
	You know, I've given Glenn Youngkin a hard time, but this time he stepped up to the plate.
	What has he done?
	Well, I'll let the man himself tell you.
	Scott Smith!
	The father who was manhandled, arrested in Loudoun County.
	Why?
	Because he wanted justice for his daughter who was assaulted by a transgender fluid boy, a rapist.
	Well, I think he's skipping along with a little lighter step today.
	Mr. Smith, what news would you like to share with millions of people across Virginia and the nation?
	Wow, thanks for having me.
	Received a call from Governor Yunkin on Friday, and it was a real nice call.
	We got to talk and go over a few things, and I accepted a pardon from him.
	An absolute pardon.
	It wasn't the first pardon, though.
	I had turned one down a month prior to that from him.
	Not from him directly, but from his administration.
	Because you had a requirement, correct?
	Correct.
	What was your requirement for the Governor of the Commonwealth?
	As a man who had been mistreated in Loudoun County at that school board meeting, what was your requirement, Mr. Smith?
	My requirement was a phone call from him to me and my wife and my daughter.
	Because you haven't had any contact with him since you were arrested?
	Correct.
	So you actually said no to the pardon?
	Yep.
	And you said, I want him to call us?
	Yep.
	And he did?
	Yep.
	Did he talk to your daughter?
	Nope, not yet, but he said he will.
	But let me be clear, it was my attorney talking through his people.
	Yeah.
	It wasn't me.
	Yeah, yeah, of course.
	Okay.
	His people talking to your people.
	Yeah.
	And so remind us what you were charged with and what they've now expunged from your record.
	What has the governor done for you?
	So I was originally charged with resisting arrest without force and disorderly conduct.
	And then during our appeal, while we were getting the George Soros prosecutor recused from the trial, we were able to get the resisting arrest charge thrown out.
	So then all's we had left was disorderly conduct.
	And you know, the thing about this disorderly conduct charge, right, is It's a low-level misdemeanor, you know, and where I come from, being a country boy, sometimes a disorderly conduct charge can be a badge of honor.
	Depending where you are and what you're doing, right?
	Yeah, so I'd already won this deal.
	I'd won this deal a year back.
	What this whole fight was all about was my First Amendment right.
	And not just mine, but all 500 people in that school board meeting that night.
	But the prosecutor Biberi has issued a statement saying this is your being pardoned is an outrage because protecting your daughter I guess from transgender rapists is a bad thing right?
	Seems to be and you know that's that was what was very important to me to win this was is I wanted to show all the moms and dads across America To stand up, not be scared, and continue on this movement.
	By labeling me a domestic terrorist, and by using the video, and we're still digging documents left and right on that.
	I think there's going to be a lot more to come out on that.
	That was chilling to free speech across America.
	And it's up to me and a few other people, you know, that have the, you know, the mics in front of us to get that message out.
	We've only got a few seconds left.
	You still have some plans, right?
	You're going to bring some legal suit.
	What are you going to do, Mr. Smith, that you can divulge?
	We plan on definitely suing the Buddha for malicious prosecution.
	Good.
	And we would also like to take a look at, you know, the Sheriff Deputy's actions.
	However, I do want to be clear that, you know, I support the law enforcement.
	I support and respect that deputy from that night.
	However, we do have a problem from our Republican Sheriff who refuses to take any accountability for what went on that day.
	What's his name?
	Sheriff Chapman.
	All right, you heard it right here, Scott Smith.
	We are celebrating his pardon from the governor.
	It took a bit of time, Glenn, but you need to call his daughter next.
	At least you did the right thing.
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	That's fascinating.
	Did you hear what Scott Smith said?
	That Glenn Youngkin wanted to pardon him, but he refused the pardon because he hadn't called him up years after his daughter's rape.
	He said, I'll accept it if you call me and my daughter up.
	And finally he did.
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	So, imagine my consternation when I hear from my buddy Dan Bongino, former Secret Service agent, that somebody's making a film about the FBI.
	And you know me.
	I've told the story.
	Before I came into the White House, I'd worked closely for years.
	My wife and I had the only external contract for al-Qaeda and ISIS training with the FBI.
	Trained thousands of agents and intelligence analysts.
	And for me, it's a sad, sad reality that today, if the Bureau knocked on my door, I'd tell them, go talk to my attorney.
	Well, somebody's decided to unpack all of that and here's a little taste of the movie
	that we will be all watching in a few weeks time.
	We honor you father for all that you've done for us.
	Chief Division Counsel and DOJ have approved a no-knock breach.
	you We want the subject to be on display, doing the walk of shame, full visual impact.
	Any questions?
	Are we becoming a police state?
	Government told American citizens they couldn't go to church on Sunday.
	For the first time in my life, I'm saying to myself, am I going to get a knock at the door?
	FBI at work!
	Come to the door now!
	The Patriot Act and FISA were used against Donald Trump.
	These individuals have commissioned the biggest propaganda play in U.S.
	history.
	They don't go after the people that rigged the election.
	They go after the people that want to find out what the hell happened.
	We don't need to have a crime.
	What we need is a person to look at.
	And then we go find out what crime you did.
	FBI!
	Well, I can't wait to see it.
	It's made by that documentarian extraordinaire author and my Salem colleague, the one and only Dinesh D'Souza.
	Dinesh, welcome to America First.
	Seb, it's always a pleasure.
	And of course, very excited about the new film.
	Because that's what's on our mind these days, the way in which, the question of whether America's becoming a police state.
	Unbelievable.
	Yeah, so I'm so excited to hear this.
	I see faces of friends, colleagues.
	I see the amazing Carl Serafin, FBI whistleblower, Nick Searcy doing your dramatizations.
	I see Dan Bongino, Jim Jordan.
	Tell us why this, because you've made so many movies.
	Full Disclosure was part, I was in your last movie, 2000 Mules.
	Why this topic and why now, Dinesh?
	Because we've been seeing here and there, you know, people talk about digital censorship, and then we hear about mass surveillance, and then we hear about the targeting of Trump, January 6th, a pro-lifer who's been raided by the police agencies of government and charged under the so-called FACE Act.
	Moms who are being spied on at school board meetings.
	So these are all different threads, but behind them is a really big question.
	And a question that goes to the heart of your experience, Seb, as well as mine.
	In other words, we know what it's like to grow up in socialist and communist countries.
	When I came to America at the age of 17, I reflexively thought of Reagan's America as the free world.
	And then there was the unfree world as represented by North Korea or Soviet Russia.
	And there was a kind of clear line of separation between us and them because we have basic rights and they don't.
	And yet today you could hardly mention a single one of our basic rights that is not under siege, that is not being threatened.
	So I thought, look, we need to sort of ask the big question, which is, are we, you know, at one point we thought that we were going to make China more like us.
	Are we becoming more like China?
	And are books like the Gulag Archipelago, which were written to describe a nightmarish network of prison camps in the Soviet Union, one day going to be relevant to us right here in the United States?
	Yeah, that's such a perfect way of putting it.
	The naive, the Kissingers of the world thought, well, we can make China more like us.
	That communist regime will become more and more, you know, liberal.
	No, no, that is not what happened.
	And in fact, we are becoming more like them.
	We're talking to the host of the Dinesh D'Souza podcast, my Salem colleague.
	Follow him at Dinesh D'Souza.
	The film can be information.
	It's not out yet.
	Is that PoliceStateFilm.net?
	That's PoliceStateFilm.net.
	Can we keep you over for one more segment, Dinesh?
	I can, I just need to be out at the turn of the hour.
	Yes, that's perfect.
	In this segment, that's one more question for you right now.
	Look, millions of people are watching and listening right now who have heard of my analysis about the FBI, who are well aware of what's happened in the last two years especially.
	Is there anything that surprised even you in the making of this movie?
	Will there be things that shock even the most informed conservatives and patriots?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	The film is a combination of accounts from people who are embedded in Department of Homeland Security, the Marshal Service.
	So it isn't just the FBI.
	When we think, for example, think of something like censorship.
	The FBI is involved in censorship.
	So is the State Department.
	So is the cybersecurity infrastructure agency.
	So are the health authorities.
	So is the White House.
	So this is a giant network that is partly inside the government and partly outside the government.
	You have independent groups like the Stanford Internet Observatory.
	You've got the media involved in this.
	So in some ways even the term deep state is inappropriate because it implies the whole thing is hidden.
	No, some of it is hidden and some of it is right there out into the open but in a way that people don't really realize how these people behind the scenes work in coordination.
	That's another incredible point.
	The Deep State doesn't cover it, because that makes you think it's all, you know, hidden, covert, within the halls of government.
	No, it's really more fascistic.
	It's the co-optation of corporate, of college, of academic, along with the malefactors in the government.
	That's why he's Dinesh D'Souza, the author of numerous works, all worth your time.
	The latest is the film Police State.
	We will continue in a moment.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	based upon what anonymous sources have told you.
	Is that the logic?
	No.
	So, for example, one of our dramatic recreations is the Mark Houck story.
	Mark Houck's story is known.
	He's testified about it.
	He's the pro-life guy.
	He got into an altercation.
	So, it's a very dramatic story, but we asked Mark if he had video of it.
	In some of the other cases with raids and so on, we have original video that's never been seen before.
	But in this case, we didn't.
	So, we were like, you know what?
	Let's recreate it.
	And so we recreated it to the detail and we opened the movie with that scene.
	And do you talk about January 6th prisoners as well?
	Oh, yeah, we have.
	Well, we have, first of all, we recreate solitary confinement.
	We have the prisoners singing the national anthem.
	I mean, we've done we've done a lot to make this film.
	Because I think for a lot of people, this is so, you know, the ordinary guy goes, I'm not, I'm not Trump.
	I wasn't in the Capitol.
	It's not gonna happen.
	So you have to bring it to them so that they see what this is really like.
	Guys, can you come in with the prisoners singing?
	Cut three.
	Today's cut three, yes.
	Yay, I got it.
	Also, are we supposed to play that thing that Tom sent?
	Remember the captain from 9-11?
	Oh, I need to hear it.
	Yeah, let me hear it.
	And I'll probably put it down before the full 30 seconds.
	Okay.
	Dinesh, it's just three minutes and then we'll let you go.
	Yeah, perfect.
	Perfect, no problem.
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	And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air, gave proof The heart-wrenching film from inside what you have to call a political gulag of January 6 prisoners just a few miles away from this studio.
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	We're back with the author of so many works, Death of a Nation, The United States of Socialism, The Big Lie, and of course the man behind the amazing movie 2000 Mules.
	The next movie coming out the day after my birthday, thank you for timing that so perfectly, is Police State.
	PoliceStateFilm.net.
	Dinesh, you said something in the break on our Rumble channel that I want everybody out there who's listening on the radio to understand.
	You did this for a specific reason, because Well, what do you say to those who say, I wasn't there on Johnny the Sixth.
	I'm not a rioter.
	I live a normal life.
	You know, I go to church on Sunday.
	Tell them why this movie is for them as well, Dinesh.
	Well, there are two reasons.
	One is there's one group of people who are unaffected by the police state, and those are the people on the left.
	They can genuinely say, I'm never going to have the FBI, at least not in today's environment, come to my door.
	No one's going to censor me on social media.
	Now, the reason that they are exempt from the police state is they are the ones who are being counted on to build the police state.
	They are the police state constituency.
	like the Chavistas, for example, in Venezuela.
	Now, there are conservatives who are living in denial.
	And by denial, I mean they feel like, listen, this is not gonna happen to me.
	The weird thing is if you read the opening section of Solzhenitsyn's Gulag,
	he's writing about the 40s, 50s, and 60s when the Gulag was fully operational.
	And he goes right in the cities and the towns.
	There are tall walls and there are barbed wire fences.
	The Gulag is right there.
	It's not just in Siberia.
	And yet he goes, many people go, you know what?
	It'll never happen to me.
	They're not going to come for me.
	And the first thing that they say when they come for him is going to be, what for?
	Why am I being arrested?
	Surely it's some kind of mistake.
	So, he goes, it's not until the prison doors are clanked and locked and you're behind it and you have, at that point, no recourse at all, that you go, gee, I should have paid attention before.
	So, my point is, I view this movie as a kind of a warning before things go too far.
	Being the Paul Revere about the police state.
	Go right now, PoliceStateFilm.net out at the end of October.
	PoliceStateFilm.net and follow this man, Dinesh D'Souza.
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	the Manhattan Tunnel, which is where we were told to stage.
	When I saw the tower burning all the way down to BQE, I actually saw the second plane come in between the towers, the buildings coming up the river, and I saw the plane scoot in there, and then I saw the explosion of the second plane blowing up, and I hit my radio for some reason.
	I said, my God, we're at war.
	And you hear a rumble, and it sounded like that, and then there was this big whooshing noise when it came down, and you could see the cloud coming out through the lower part of Manhattan.
	My stomach literally was probably somewhere down around my feet, because all I could think of was the people, the firefighters, anybody that was in the building.
	I mean, my heart just turned upside down.
	I blame most of it on the mainstream media who's taken the message away from what the result was.
	The result was America was attacked.
	3,000 of our...
	The result was America was attacked.
	3,000 of our...
	The result was America was attacked.
	you you
	.
	.
	Making sense out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Welcome back, dear friends.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Where did that first hour go?
	If you missed it, we opened with Rudy Giuliani.
	Incredible, incredible reminiscing of what happened on September the 11th and a discussion of Where is the leadership today?
	I don't think he's even appeared on camera yet.
	He's hiding.
	He doesn't dare to go to New York because he knows what New Yorkers would tell Joe Biden.
	He said he's going to make some speech on some military base in Alaska.
	Of course he is.
	Well, let's do the right thing here.
	We're going to devote every single day this week.
	We will be remembering some aspect of what happened 22 years ago here in Washington, D.C., in New York, and on a field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
	But my good friend Chris Plant was working in the Pentagon for CNN on September the 11th, and he was driving to work, and he was there when the plane hit.
	And this is his report on his cell phone 22 years ago today.
	Chris Plant, a CNN producer, is at the Pentagon, where there is a significant fire.
	Chris, you're on the phone.
	Can you hear me okay?
	Yes, I can hear you just fine.
	Tell me what you know.
	Well, arriving at the Pentagon a short time ago, there was a huge plume of smoke, which continues to rise from the west side of the Pentagon, over in the area where there is a helicopter landing zone.
	It's along Route 27, if you're looking at maps of the area.
	The building is currently being evacuated and police and emergency units are, of course, responding from all around the building and from the local Arlington County Fire Department.
	The plume of smoke is enormous.
	It's a couple of hundred yards across.
	At its base, it is billowing into the sky hundreds of yards.
	It's impossible for me to say from this side of the building whether the building itself is on fire or up in flames, or exactly what caused this.
	I did not hear an explosion, but there is certainly a very, very significant fire in this enormous office building on the west front.
	The building is being evacuated.
	The Defense Protective Service officers, the police force for the Pentagon, are on a very tight string right now.
	As I arrived, I was called at gunpoint.
	That was the morning of September the 11th.
	We'll be talking to a friend of mine, a former colleague of mine who was inside the building when it was hit later this week.
	But now let's go to a friend who helps me prepare for this show simply by all the work that she does.
	Last time she was on she said, hey I've posted transcripts of what's going on in the DC, can we call them courts?
	They're not really courts, they're like show trial buildings.
	And I spent the rest of the week reading them, and now we're going to get the latest update.
	She's the author of the book January 6, How Democrats Use the Capitol Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right.
	Julie Kelly, it's great to have you back.
	Hey Seb, thank you so much for having me on.
	So, we were discussing judges.
	We will be talking for an hour tomorrow to somebody we're so sad to have lost from this city, a former judge advocate general officer, a former judge in Texas, a former congressman.
	We're going to be asking some probing questions to Louie Gohmert.
	But thanks to you, I read the transcripts you posted on your substack.
	Let's put her substack up on the chyron please, gentlemen.
	You can embroider upon this.
	You can add what's missing.
	We can talk about Judge Kelly.
	We have to talk about Judge Kelly.
	But I read from last Monday Judge Tanya Chutkan's discussion with President Trump's lawyers.
	And let's talk about President Trump for a moment.
	16 million pages worth of discovery that they're supposed to digest in four months.
	That's why his lawyers, especially counsel Lauro, has requested that this be postponed till after the election.
	Judge Chutkan's argument, and please, if I'm lying, you've got to tell everybody that's listening to me, Gorka just made that up, he's a lunatic.
	Because I read the official transcript on your webpage, which is substat.com.
	Is that at Julie Kelly?
	Doesn't it have a cool name?
	What's your substat called?
	Declassified. Declassified. All right, so look for declassified and Julie Kelly on Substack.
	Chudcan, this judge who worked with Hunter Biden in the same law firm, says to President Trump's
	lawyers, well, what do you mean you need more time to prepare? It's only, you know, 16 million pages.
	And anyway, your client, he could have heard the rumors and the reports in the press that
	that they were going to hold a grand jury and that there would be indictments for the last two years.
	So he should have been preparing anyway, irrespective of the fact that that's not how the system works.
	And B, what is the president supposed to do?
	Hire lawyers and say, I don't know what I'm getting charged with, but will you just start reading something, read some documents?
	Julie Kelly, did Sebastian Gorka Okay, just make that up.
	You did not make it up.
	Instead, I'll tell you why I posted that transcript.
	And transcripts, you have to pay.
	So I did.
	Hang on, hang on.
	You're freezing up.
	You're freezing up.
	Go to the two-shot.
	We cannot lose Julie.
	People can read for themselves.
	We lost you for a second.
	So go back to the beginning.
	Start your answer again.
	Let's go.
	Yes, you are absolutely right.
	You told no lies there.
	People can look at, can read the entire transcript for themselves at Declassified with Julie Kelly.
	I purchased and posted the whole thing because I think the American people should see for themselves what Judge Tanya Chutkan is saying in court.
	Not only did she suggest that Donald Trump's lawyers and Donald Trump himself should have been preparing for this indictment a year before it was announced and looking at evidence that they didn't even know existed, She also compared the events of January 6th, like other judges have, to 9-11 and the Boston Marathon bombing.
	These are the sort of judges that January 6th defendants have been dealing with for more than two and a half years.
	And I think the American people are waking up to what you just said.
	You know, these show trials, these struggle sessions that these judges are forcing in their own courtrooms, this Banana Republic style environment.
	And so, Tanya Chodkin is just one piece of what's happening there.
	But that transcript is well worth the read.
	It truly is.
	You don't think this can happen in an American court.
	And just the back and forth, and just the arrogance, the dripping condescension from this judge is just numbing.
	Alright, so let's flip from somebody we know is a leftist, we know is a Trump hater who had to recuse herself in a case involving cash.
	Patel, because she actually hired Fusion GPS, the propagators of the original Steele dossier, the Russia collusion smear.
	Let's talk about somebody who's a Trump nominee, who worked for Chuck Grassley as his chief counsel in the Senate.
	This is Judge Kelly, who has put men behind bars for decades last week because they shook a fence.
	Yes, because they weren't even in Washington on January 6th.
	So I don't know where to put this.
	I just think the Federalist Society should be dissolved because they're the ones that sent us the names of judges who should be nominated by President Trump.
	Can you explain what the flip is going on with Judge Kelly and the Proud Boy sentencing?
	So Judge Kelly, as you said, a Trump-appointed judge recommended by the Federalist Society, worked for Charles Grassley, but more importantly, he said he liked Many judges on the D.C.
	District Court is a former prosecutor out of the D.C.
	U.S.
	Attorney's Office.
	This is the office handling every single January 6th prosecution.
	The supervising prosecutor, a woman named Jocelyn Ballentine, worked with Tim Kelly when they were both at the D.C.
	U.S.
	Attorney's Office.
	They worked on cases together.
	Their names are together on motions that are filed for certain cases, and rumor has it that they remain very close.
	Which is one of the reasons why Tim Kelly acted as nothing more than a rubber stamp for DOJ.
	As one defense attorney said to me, he was nothing more than an extra lawyer, an extra prosecutor on the government side.
	He acted this way throughout the entire case, entire trial.
	And then here he is sentencing five members of the Proud Boys accused of no serious crime to a total of 82 years in prison, including a man named Enrique Tarrio, The ex-leader of the Proud Boys, who was in a Baltimore hotel room on January 6th, had no idea that any of this violence was going to take place, and yet sentenced him to 22 years in prison.
	In the process, Seb, here we are now 22 years removed from 9-11.
	The government has turned the tools of the first war on terror against the American political right And you have judges like Judge Tim Kelly, Judge Amit Mehta, an Obama-appointed judge, now codifying new federal laws of terror, including shaking offense, obstruction of an official proceeding, conspiracy to obstruct.
	These are now new federal laws of terrorism, thanks to these judges and this Department of Judges.
	Who would have thought 22 years ago, this is what we would be talking about, but here we are.
	Yeah, we have to unpack that because this is a lethal weapon they will use against patriots and President Trump.
	We're talking to the author of the book January 6th.
	The substack is substack.com slash at Julie Kelly.
	You must go right now and subscribe and also follow her at Julie underscore Kelly 2.
	That's Julie underscore Kelly 2.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	We'll be back with Julie in a moment.
	We'll talk about the Proud Boys.
	Mmm.
	We'll talk about the relevance to President Trump.
	What else?
	Tell us something important that I'm missing from all your time spent in the hearings.
	What is something that most people won't know or won't believe that we should share?
	I mean, I think just the fact that these judges are now codifying these new domestic, you know, these new terror laws.
	But also that they're applying not just to people like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, but Connie Megs, a 61-year-old grandmother from Florida.
	And Judge Beda basically looked at her, sentenced her to 15 months in prison.
	She was in the Capitol for 12 minutes, no violence, and branded her a terrorist.
	I mean, you know, I think coinciding with the 22-year anniversary of 9-11, And just re-evaluating how those tools are now being aimed at us.
	Super.
	That's great.
	That's great.
	Eric, let's come in here with... Come in with Cut 8.
	Come in with Cut 8.
	No liner.
	Actually, no.
	I'll do PhD, then I'll tee up Cut 8.
	And Jeff, he's on somebody else's show, right?
	Obadala?
	He's on the phone.
	No, that's his show.
	That's his show?
	Cut 8 if that's someone else's show.
	Okay.
	Cut 8 the um...
	Dean Obadiah or whatever his name is.
	No, that's his show.
	That's his show? Okay.
	And do you have a title in mind for Solomon?
	I'm still uh... that's the only one I need.
	Okay, um...
	Uh, Solomon, let's think...
	Mmm...
	What did he say about Hunter? Um...
	How many times did Hunter get a pass from the Feds?
	Let's do that.
	Oh he's finally talking!
	Let's have a listen to the senile bag of oatmeal.
	90 seconds.
	He looks exactly like that ventriloquist dummy.
	Look at him now.
	Look at his mouth.
	Walter.
	Walter.
	I loved Jeff Dunham as a kid.
	And as we remember our fallen and our commitment to the future,
	please stand and join me in a moment of silence.
	Why's he got his hand on his heart?
	It's a moment of silence.
	It's not the anthem.
	It's not the Pledge of Allegiance.
	What's that cretin doing?
	Okay, enough of that.
	Alright, 40 seconds and then I'll tee up Dean Obadala.
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	our friend Dinesh D'Souza said just about half an hour ago, because it affects everybody.
	But the person they really want to take out, because, you know, you want him back in the White House, is President Trump.
	And it's not just getting prosecuted.
	They want him dead.
	This is from Sirius XM Radio.
	It's the host of the show, Dean Obeidallah.
	He tells you what the Democrats really want to do.
	Just listen.
	No, but I was on MS and I said that Donald Trump must die in jail and that, and it came out weird because it sounded like I was hoping he'd get stabbed in the shower and that's not what I meant.
	I meant like die of natural causes, to be a deterrent to anyone else, and I don't care if you're a Democrat or if you're a Republican, whoever attempts a coup in our nation again, that your fate must be death in a prison cell.
	Julie Kelly, it's pretty obvious that what happened last week to the Proud Boys is basically a trial run for what they want to do against President Trump and the use of seditious conspiracy and not just make sure he can't run, but that he dies in prison.
	Do you concur?
	I absolutely do.
	And I wrote about this, as you know, after the Proud Boys convictions came down in May and they were convicted of seditious conspiracy.
	And I said, this poses a great legal jeopardy for President Trump because the government and even the judge made Donald Trump a key figure in their case.
	They said that the seditious conspiracy began on December 19th, 2020, after Donald Trump posted that tweet, come to DC January 6th will be wild.
	During closing arguments, the lead prosecutor played back the clip from the 2020 presidential
	debate when Donald Trump said, proud boys, stand back and stand by.
	And, look, I talked with Enrique Terrio last week, and he told me that the government,
	DOJ lead prosecutor, and this Jocelyn Ballantyne I just talked about, tried to coerce him into
	accepting a plea deal, throwing Donald Trump under the bus, and claiming that they had
	associates, mutual associates, who they talked to as sort of an intermediary between November
	and January 6th, and wanted him to sign a plea deal to say.
	That Donald Trump was indeed somehow part of the Proud Boys plan.
	So they wanted to make him like, you know, the uber general above the Proud Boys and somehow blame him for everything that happened on January 6th.
	And Tarrio refused to take the plea deal.
	That's right.
	He refused the plea deal, but they did extend it to him.
	He said that during plea negotiations, the lead prosecutor, Jason McCullough and Joycelyn Ballantyne, left the room On a number of occasions, to speak with someone on the phone, he suspected that it was D.C.
	U.S.
	Attorney Matthew Graves, the Biden appointee, or even someone from the White House.
	Now, that's speculation, although it's not hard to come to that conclusion that that could be the case.
	But that is why, Seb, I don't believe that special counsel Jack Smith is done with Donald Trump when it comes to the events of January 6th.
	Right now, he has sort of a measly four-count criminal indictment with the obstruction of an official proceeding and three conspiracy counts.
	We know the D.C.
	grand jury is still working.
	We know that there's been reporting that he is going to plan to indict the six unindicted co-conspirators, including Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, John Eastman, Jeffrey Clark, et cetera, some of the same names in the Georgia indictment.
	But that doesn't mean that he's done with Donald Trump.
	And I fully expect, although I've been told by reliable sources this is not the case, I do expect Jack Smith to bring more charges against Donald Trump.
	Possibly including seditious conspiracy, which then could result, if he is convicted by a DC jury, could result in Jack Smith coming back and asking for this ridiculous terror enhancement that judges like Judge Tim Kelly and Amit Mehta have allowed.
	In these cases, so I don't think we're anywhere near the finish line.
	Well, we've seen it with Jack Smith.
	Jack Smith has issued superseding charges already, so the idea that he's not going to add new ones.
	So let me just read to you from U.S.
	Code 18-2384 on what seditious conspiracy is.
	If two or more persons conspire to overthrow the government or to levy war against the government or to oppose by force the authority thereof, Or hinder or delay the execution of any law of the United States.
	That's a seditious conspiracy.
	But I'm still trying to find, what is it that the Proud Boys did?
	Was there some evidence that they made pipe bombs, that they didn't explode?
	Is there some evidence that they were planning an armed attack?
	What crime of terroristic nature did they commit, Julie Kelly?
	They didn't.
	And here's what's very disappointing.
	And Seb, you just touched on it, but I just posted this on my Substack Declassified with Julie Kelly last week.
	I posted the jury instructions and I posted clips of the Proud Boys.
	The burden of proof is so low as to be non-existent for the government.
	What you just read, the government, DOJ did not accuse them of trying to overthrow the government or any more of the heavy language in that statute.
	They said that the Proud Boys planned to use force to prevent, delay, or hinder the execution of a law.
	Think about how vague that is, how it could apply to basically anything.
	But then they came back and said, well, you don't actually have to use force, but if you planned to use force, then this statute would apply.
	Well, the force in this, they didn't carry weapons.
	They didn't assault police officers.
	They didn't hunt down Nancy Pelosi.
	The closest the government could come was Dominic Pozzola, one man who used a riot shield to smash one of the windows, but then a few of them allegedly shaking this temporary metal fence.
	That was the act of terrorism, according to DOJ and Judge Kelly.
	But furthermore, there was no crime.
	And then they said, well, the conspiracy doesn't even have to be verbally agreed on.
	It can be a wink and a nod.
	This is what the lead prosecutor told the jury.
	It can be implicit.
	It could happen at the moment of the exact crime, which was what?
	Shaking the metal fence?
	We're in Philip K Dick territory.
	This is thought crime.
	This is, without evidentiary basis, this is thought crime.
	That's where we are at.
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	So you got to talk to Enrique.
	Bye.
	Julie?
	Are you talking to me?
	Yeah, you got to talk to Enrique?
	I did.
	I talked to him twice last week.
	And how was that?
	What's your impression of him?
	You know, I have to be honest.
	For a while I sort of suspected that he was a plant because he was an FBI informant back in 2012.
	He was working with MPD.
	He was in communications with one of their sergeants.
	And then he had that weird thing where he brought some high cap mags into Washington and then the charges were dropped.
	What?
	Yeah, they were empty, but they're high cap mags and you can't have them in DC.
	And then the charges mysteriously dropped or something.
	So... No, they weren't dropped.
	They weren't dropped.
	He was arrested, recall.
	No, but I remember he was held without bail and then a load of his buddies turned up outside the jail and then they released him.
	So there was something weird going on.
	Well, here's what happened.
	There was a warrant for his arrest for allegedly burning a BLM banner.
	In December of 2020, when they were having all these confrontations with BLM and Antifa, there was an open warrant for his arrest for burning this flag.
	That's what he was arrested for.
	They allegedly found these empty mags.
	That was just part of the reason why he was detained, held overnight, and then ordered to leave the Capitol on January 5th, which he did.
	But then before he went to his Baltimore hotel room, An FBI informant named Kenny Lizardo drove Enrique Atario to meet Stuart Rhodes, the head of the Oath Keepers, in an underground garage where there just happened to be a documentary filmmaker there recording the whole thing so he could release it and make it look like Enrique Atario and the Proud Boys were working with Stuart Rhodes and the Oath Keepers to attack the Capitol the next day.
	This is all part of the government's orchestrated inside job of January 6th.
	But that's why Enrique Tarrio left.
	He was ordered to leave.
	And then he spent five months in jail for burning that stupid BLM, or allegedly burning it, taking part in burning this banner.
	But that was before January 6th.
	In December.
	But he was arrested on the 4th.
	Right.
	And released on the 5th and ordered to leave the city, which he did.
	So now you think he's a genuine guy?
	Well, it's hard to believe that if he was some sort of plant or informant, he would be sentenced to 22 years in prison.
	Well, unless he screwed up, right?
	Unless he wasn't informant and then they said, okay, now you're disposable.
	Well, absolutely right.
	They could have totally thrown him under the bus, which is very plausible.
	I mean, I, I saw them do this in the Whitmer case too.
	So, uh, it's likely, um, but I mean, his motivation now for saying DOJ, Tried to coerce him into this plea to throw Trump under the bus.
	It seems pretty genuine.
	So when does he have to start serving?
	Is he already serving?
	I mean, he's been in jail since his arrest on seditious conspiracy since March of 2022.
	So they're all in the gulag now.
	They've been in the D.C.
	gulag for this trial awaiting sentencing and then just waiting to be transferred to his permanent federal prison home.
	All right, let's put the Patriot fund up in the next block.
	Yeah, Eric.
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	What else have we not played?
	20 seconds.
	You.
	I.
	Again, we have experience with this type of vaccine in billions of people.
	It's a safe vaccine.
	Of course, with the mRNA, there's a very, very, very low risk, particularly in young men, of getting a myocarditis.
	But if you look at the risk of myocarditis from COVID itself is greater than the risk of the vaccine.
	Sorry, hang on a second.
	Fauci just admitted That myocarditis, the inflammation of the heart, actually is the result for young men in many cases who've been vaccinated.
	And he did that on ABC.
	Hey, Jeff, you said something very interesting when we were going through the cuts earlier today.
	What did you say about myocarditis linking it with COVID?
	What did you say about that?
	Oh, about a year ago.
	That would get you booted off of every social media platform.
	Right.
	If you had said it or I had said it, we would have been cancelled forever.
	Exactly.
	Do you think he's going to be cancelled?
	Uh, no.
	No.
	No.
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	Julie, let's put a photograph up on the screen.
	It's not just, you know, swarthy individuals with big biceps.
	It's 61-year-old grandmothers like Connie Meggs.
	Tell us about Connie Meggs and why she's going to prison.
	So Connie Meggs is married to a man named Kelly Meggs, who was a top Oath Keeper.
	They traveled from their home in Florida to Washington D.C.
	to participate in the events of January 6th.
	Her husband, Kelly, along with Stuart Rhodes, was convicted of seditious conspiracy.
	Judge Amit Mehta sentenced her husband, Kelly, to 12 years in prison on seditious conspiracy.
	Again, didn't take weapons to the Capitol, didn't assault anyone, walked in a stack formation.
	You could see them engaging with police, etc.
	Nothing violent, no serious conviction.
	She also went inside the Capitol for roughly 10 to 12 minutes.
	Again, same situation.
	She was arrested, spent 45 days in jail, in a Florida jail in pretrial detention, was released, but ordered to home detention, where she wore an ankle monitor for two and a half years, awaiting trial.
	Again, stood trial like everyone else in the Trump-hating, you know, cauldron, 100% Democratic city of Washington, D.C., where she then was convicted of obstruction of an official proceeding, conspiracy to obstruct, blah, blah, blah.
	DOJ comes back.
	They asked for years in prison for Connie Meggs.
	Judge Amit Mehta heard her out.
	I was in the courtroom for her sentencing.
	I've spoken with Connie on the phone.
	She is a mother of two, grandmother of three.
	Their family lives have been completely destroyed.
	Begged for mercy.
	She has no criminal record, a church-going woman, active in her community.
	Begged for mercy.
	Nonetheless, Judge Amit Mehta complained that he personally could not get over the events of January 6th, called it a crime committed against the citizens of the United States, blamed Connie Meggs for being part, playing a part of that crime, and sentenced her to 15 months in prison with the terror enhancement, calling the obstruction and conspiracy convictions a crime of federal terrorism.
	So there's your new terrorist.
	Let's just be clear on this, the anniversary of September the 11th, we are having judges, we're having the DOJ and prosecutors equate men and women who did nothing or shook a fence, literally took a fence and shook it, On January 6th, with those who slit the throats of air stewardesses and killed innocent men, women and children on September 11th.
	That's all the proof you need that the police state has arrived.
	We've been talking to Julie Kelly as I was listening to her on my friend Dennis Prager's show last week.
	He said, yeah, you should write a book about this.
	She already has!
	It's called January 6th.
	How Democrats Use the Capitol Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right.
	And I think it's not going to be the last book she writes on it.
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	What's the next proceedings?
	What's the next court thing you're going to view?
	I mean, nothing really, just waiting for the next shoe to drop from Jack Smith for January 6th.
	So that could come end of this week, maybe.
	Did you post the Kelly transcript as well?
	I posted the Kelly transcript to his three hour oral ruling explaining why he was going to add the terror enhancement.
	And I think I posted The Joe Biggs sentencing.
	If not, I will do that as well.
	People love getting those transcripts.
	Oh, man.
	It's such a, you know, peek into the insanity.
	I will post those if I haven't, and I'll send them to you when they're up.
	Please.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
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	Thanks, Julie.
	I have that cut of Trump on 9-11.
	Oh, good.
	Can you play it?
	Minute six on.
	Go ahead.
	Playback one.
	I think we'll do fine.
	Donald, what do you think about all this?
	You're a developer.
	You've built buildings all your life.
	Well, there's never been anything like this.
	It's disgraceful.
	And I hope we attack fast.
	I hope we find out who it is and go fast.
	Okay.
	Why'd you want to come down here?
	That's what I wanted.
	I wanted it up to that point.
	So, as long as he says, okay, uh, do it fast, then I'll, then I'll indicate.
	He said fast another time, too.
	Oh, yeah, that's right.
	All right.
	I'll use that probably in the e-block.
	Here I'm gonna do the Trader stuff.
	Okay, is there like video for that?
	No, it's just audio.
	It's three times 20 seconds, so you can just run b-roll while we're playing the audio.
	Actually, does that make any sense?
	What do you think, Geoff?
	9-11 audio.
	He's a firefighter.
	Yeah, run it.
	Run the...
	Run continuous b-roll once I start reading the script, and just run it for the whole two minutes.
	Okay.
	What have we got here?
	Oh, we've got Liberty.
	No, we've got Leadership Institute.
	I'll come in with dramatic music here.
	I'm doing Liberty... Leadership Institute.
	Yeah, yeah. I'll just get out the top. Alright.
	Um, Eric, could...
	I'll just get out the top.
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	Right, so I have an amazing A couple of segments to do with September the 11th from my colleague Tom at Salem.
	I'd like to share these with you.
	So as we mark the 22nd anniversary of the 3,000 Americans killed by Islamic fanatics, the deaths that occurred here in Washington at the World Trade Center and in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, There's one eyewitness of that fateful day who goes by the name of Captain Matt Bruce, who back then was a New York City firefighter, and he recalls for us getting the assignment to swing into action that morning.
	We all headed for the Manhattan Tunnel, which is where we were told to stage.
	When I saw the tower burning all the way down to BQE, I actually saw the second plane come in between the towers, the buildings coming up the river, and I saw the plane scoot in there, and then I saw the explosion of the second plane blowing up, and I hit my radio for some reason.
	I said, my God, we're at war.
	Today, Matt Bruce is one of our show hosts for our Salem station in Tampa.
	But he vividly remembers the collapse of the first World Trade Center tower.
	And you hear a rumble and it sounded like that and then there was this big whooshing noise when it came down and you could see the cloud coming out through the lower part of Manhattan.
	My stomach literally was probably somewhere down around my feet because all I could think of was the people, the firefighters, anybody that was in the building.
	I mean my heart just turned upside down.
	As we pause today as a nation to remember what happened that day, Matt admits he's more
	than just a little bit angry that the pro-American spirit that emerged in the days after the
	attacks has since then quite radically dissipated.
	And he lays the blame squarely on one specific group.
	I'm going to take that message away from what the result was.
	The result was America was attacked.
	Three thousand of our citizens were killed not only at the World Trade Center but also
	at that field in Pennsylvania and also at the Department of Defense at the Pentagon.
	And again, the media controls the narrative and they are trying to get us away from anything
	that they regard as being divisive, or God forbid if we wave an American flag and say,
	we want to make America great again.
	Think about that for a minute.
	What's wrong with the expression, I want to make my country, America, the greatest country in the place, period?
	The greatest place in the world.
	I want to make my country great again or keep my country great.
	Well, the firefighters that are out there, the police officers that are out there are being attacked.
	We can't go anywhere without people coming up to us and trying to do whatever stupid things they're trying to do.
	And that continues today.
	But that goes along with a younger generation With the education that they're getting, the teachers that they've got, the woke this, the woke that.
	There is no wokeness in the fire service.
	There is no wokeness in the police service.
	You rely on the person that's beside you and behind you and in front of you.
	That's a team.
	That's a unit.
	It's not I. It's not me.
	It's not my.
	It's we.
	We do everything as a cohesive unit.
	That's how we stay alive.
	And that's how we save lives.
	And this atmosphere we've got today, it's got to stop.
	It's got to stop.
	Just remember what it was like after September the 11th.
	How we came together and the pride we had in our country.
	Somebody has dismantled that systematically over the last 22 years.
	And you know who it is.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Let's go to John in New Jersey.
	Welcome, John.
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	I've done an analysis of the only real lesson from 9-11.
	It'll be on my Substack as soon as I get out of the studio.
	I wrote it this morning, but I will post it.
	You should read it.
	Just go right now.
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	It has to do with President Trump, President Clinton, you'll see why, and Biden, who just gave his speech at some airbase in Alaska.
	Two days after 9-11, Mr. Trump went down to ground zero.
	And thanks to Joel Fisher, here's a little clip of the future president.
	I think we'll do fine.
	Donald, what do you think about all this?
	You're a developer.
	You've built buildings all your life.
	Well, there's never been anything like this.
	It's disgraceful.
	And I hope we attack fast.
	I hope we find out who it is and go fast.
	Okay.
	That's what leadership looks like.
	He goes down to the scene and he says it's time for some retribution.
	And that's what he did to ISIS.
	And you see what's happened in the last two and a half years to the world.
	That's why we need him back.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Let's go to Los Angeles.
	Brent!
	Line one.
	A sacred and hallowed day, dear Gorka.
	It is indeed.
	Share your thoughts with us, my friend.
	Well, today every patriot must wear proudly American flags as if this is the 4th of July and D-Day.
	9-11 must no longer be only a time for tears, but to recall God's command to hate evil and to remember our righteous anger.
	9-11 needs to transform into our commitment to courage, learning, and responsibility, to expose and expunge every Islamo-Marxist saboteur from our White House, our Congress, the Deep State, and our nation under God.
	And today, Marx and Mohammed are monstrously united in their mutual hate and hysteria to murder America, Western civilization, and God Himself.
	And we must resolve to defeat the devil's disciples and to freely live united in our God-given USA, USA, U-S-A!
	I think that's one of your best.
	I love the phrase devil's disciples because that's who they are and that's actually the theme of my first book.
	Beautifully put, I wrote my analysis of the global jihadi movement, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Hezbollah, because as a child of those who'd suffered under fascism and communism, I realized the connection.
	They're all totalitarians.
	Whether you worship Karl Marx, or Allah, or Der Fuehrer, you're all totalitarians.
	And that's why they hate us.
	They must destroy us.
	And that is why we must destroy them first.
	To understand why, read Defeating Jihad, then read Why We Fight, and the latest, sadly, the most relevant, given what's happened in the last seven years, is The War for America's Soul.
	Go to SebGorkerStore.com, educate yourself, Let's win this battle.
	Next, the manhood hour with a very good friend.
	stay on this channel.
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	you welcome dear friends to our hour-long celebration
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	assault on the pillar of Western civilization which is dangerous men who
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	Hello, Seb.
	Thank you for having me on.
	Finally, this amazing show.
	Well, I have to say, you know, they say familiarity breeds contempt.
	I think that's a little harsh.
	I think familiarity and friendship is, it's easy to take people for granted.
	And I always feel bad because every week you come on, you know, from wherever you are in the world.
	Right now you're in Oregon, not Oregon.
	I was told not to say that.
	From the depths, the woods of Oregon.
	And, you know, for the amount of money we pay you, which is exactly nothing, you have dedicated so much time to us and your analysis has been, even when we're talking about movies, which is fun, I love it, we get to celebrate good movies, unless you pick one of them like Uncle Buck, and as we celebrate those good movies, you always have this philosophical inject about things that are in the movie that I don't get to
	dissect because you know I'm just a movie buff at a very superficial give me another you know bag of
	popcorn I just love these movies it's nostalgia it's reliving my childhood and then you'll
	come in about yeah and the message of this movie is is fatherhood or don't you understand that
	this is about strong men protecting the innocent
	So what a perfect, perfect guest for the Manhood Hours.
	So, Chris, are you ready to face the challenge of standing up for everything that is hairy and masculine?
	Absolutely.
	It's very flattering, your description of me.
	I will say it is indeed a terrible sacrifice every time I go on any Sebastian Gorka show.
	But no, no, we have a lot of fun.
	You know, it's great.
	You know, sometimes you do an interview and it is a little bit painful, but you know, you got to do it.
	That's our job.
	But this is always a pleasure.
	Always a pleasure to come on your show, Seb.
	And not only that, we've roped him into whenever I have to guest host for Newsmax.
	I have my Newsmax show, but when I guest host for Rob Schmidt, they have this mandatory segment.
	I hate these mandatory segments.
	It's like, news from the left, and let's comment on funny clips about the idiots from the Democrat Party.
	And you, you are my go-to guest because you just make it... I actually end up laughing through most of those segments.
	It's just too much fun.
	All right, let's begin with... And you have this unusual perch.
	So let's say nobody's seen any of our...
	Making Movies Great Again, or any of your segments with me on Newsmax.
	Just, you know, because this is a standalone hour.
	Tell a little bit about Chris Coles' story.
	So, you're a very successful YouTuber now.
	You're a buddy of ours here on America First.
	What is your life story to date?
	Where did you grow up?
	And what did you end up doing prior to Mr. Reagan and the Alpha Critic?
	Well, I originally came to, um, earth from a planet called Krypton.
	Uh, and I was raised by these two farm, farm folks.
	Uh, no, no, no.
	Yeah.
	Look, I have pretty normal life.
	I grew up in the suburbs and, uh, you know, life was pretty, I was in the boy Scouts and, you know, doing all the normal stuff you would do in Oregon, going camping in the summers, chopping wood, all the kinds of normal stuff.
	I think that all boys should do and fights, uh, behind the school, you know, at the, at the bike rack and all that kind of stuff. You know, the
	normal stuff a boy would normally do in the 1980s. I grew up in the 1980s and that was back before
	computers were ubiquitous in every home.
	And I think it was sort of, you know, me and maybe one generation below me, we're kind of
	the last generation to grow up without smartphones and computers and stuff and kind of know what real
	life is like. I do worry about kids today and how they're growing up. But yeah, yeah.
	Growing up in Oregon was good.
	If you ever seen the Goonies, that was kind of my childhood riding bikes, looking for pirate treasure, that kind of thing.
	And, uh, yeah.
	And then I decided one day I was watching, and this is for anybody who wants to start a podcast or a YouTube channel.
	This is how you'd be successful.
	I think I was watching Ben Shapiro.
	I was watching Steven Crowder, these guys.
	And there was one Saturday and back then there wasn't this maybe five years ago, there wasn't a ton of conservatives on YouTube.
	And I thought, oh, I, you know, I've gone through the few shows that I like to watch.
	There's not enough, you know, not enough conservative commentary.
	Some other idiots got to get a camera and a mic and do a show like this.
	And I thought, wait a minute.
	I've got a camera.
	I've got a mic.
	I'm the idiot.
	So I grabbed the camera, the mic, I did the show and, and I kind of knew immediately as soon as I thought, okay, I'm going to present some ideas from just an ordinary American perspective.
	American guy grew up in the suburbs.
	I'm going to come up with this.
	Just typical American perspective, that's just common sense.
	And I knew immediately when I came up with the idea, it would be successful.
	Not just because I thought my ideas had value, but I think it was because I knew that there was a big demand for this kind of content, and just not enough supply.
	And that's how anyone can become successful.
	You see something there's a demand for, and then you just, you know, fill the supply.
	And then you can make some money.
	And what has that ride been like?
	Because I don't even remember Did I find you originally on YouTube and then did I reach out to you and DM you or something?
	What was the genesis of our connection?
	Yeah, you must have wanted to interview me because I did this big video called The Brains Behind AOC.
	Yes, yes.
	You went viral.
	You exploded with this video about how AOC, the bartender, became a member of Congress.
	And if you haven't seen this, I think, is it a two-parter, Chris?
	There's two of them, right?
	There is a second part.
	I had to correct something because I gave Cenk Uygur too much credit for having created, you know, all of this.
	The Justice Democrats who control AOC is actually run by a guy named Zack Exley, which I explained in the second video.
	But yeah, the first video was really the breakthrough video explaining that AOC is really just a puppet for this Essentially a communist group called Justice Democrats.
	And she was actually, they had like, you know, auditions, didn't they?
	They wanted to put somebody in Congress, and you actually broke down how they had auditions.
	These communists, these social democrats, had auditions for who should be the puppet member of Congress, and she didn't even apply, her brother applied on her behalf, and she became the puppet who passed the audition, right Chris?
	Oh yeah, I mean, this is how they themselves explain it, right?
	And they present, and the reason they made this video talking about this, and AOC's in this video talking about it, is that they wanted to recruit new people to come in, and they wanted a primary establishment Democrats and bring in these new more radical left Democrats.
	AOC was one of them that they were successful with and they thought, oh, with AOC's success on the back of that, we can bring in new people.
	So they're trying to get more people to come in and audition.
	That's why they made this video.
	And at one point they say something like, I can't remember exactly, I'm paraphrasing, but it's something like, you know, you don't even, you know, kind of suggesting that anyone can do it.
	Like they're like, basically like, you don't even really do anything.
	You just listen to us and we tell you what to do.
	And she's like, exactly.
	And I remember watching that thinking, wow, you're kind of admitting to just, Letting other people dictate what your positions are in Congress and what your votes are going to be, and to me that's like the antithesis of what you want in a representative from your region.
	You want somebody, you want to vote for whoever it is that you believe, you know, you voted for.
	You don't want some kind of shadowy group to be controlling, you know, this person that you voted for and you thought was representing you.
	And how's it been since that went viral, then you do that incredible parody of the woke Gillette ad that I think is one of your most incredible works to date.
	And then you got really superb analyses on politics, the one you did on the recent election fraud is just incredible.
	What's the last few years been like as Mr. Reagan, Chris?
	I'll tell you, it's actually pretty stressful to have a YouTube channel these days that promotes conservative ideas.
	First of all, it's a very sedentary job, and as a man, I do think that we like to work with our hands, we like to be active, and you can get fat doing this job.
	It's very sedentary work.
	You're watching the news, you're writing down scripts, you're sitting in front of a camera, then you're editing for hours on end.
	It's very stressful.
	And you put a lot of work into it, a lot of hours, and then YouTube decides, YouTube decided fairly early on, I think pretty much right when I produced that AOC video, oh, this is somebody that we don't like his messaging, right?
	YouTube and Google decided we're going to stop Donald Trump ever being elected again.
	They actually made statements to that effect.
	And it's like, all right, so how are they going to do that?
	Well, they're going to suppress a lot of the content on their platform.
	So Google owns YouTube, right?
	And so YouTube has been for years suppressing my videos, which is incredibly frustrating.
	You got removed from YouTube, which is unbelievable.
	I mean, a lot of these folks on YouTube, this is like our sole income.
	These are small businesses.
	I think this is a tragedy that in America, you start a small business using a particular platform and the platform can just delete your business like that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's not even a cartel.
	It's a monopoly.
	But man, do you bring it every time.
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	I watch all of his videos.
	You will not regret it.
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	Chris, let the games begin.
	Are you ready to be entertained?
	Well, no.
	Let's do it.
	You need to entertain us.
	First question for all of our guests on the Manhood Hour.
	How serious is the assault on classic masculinity in the West today and in America?
	It's horrific.
	It's horrific.
	Although they are amplifying masculinity, but only in women.
	It's a little bit weird, right?
	It's a little bit weird.
	They're trying to turn women into men, right?
	They're trying to turn women into men, and let me just say this.
	What is masculinity?
	It's a big question these days, right?
	Because if you think about it, a lot of the jobs that used to be done, a lot of the hobbies that used to be done by men in, say, like the 1940s, you know, the majority of men would work with their hands, as I was mentioning before.
	A majority of men would do physical work.
	Even if you owned a corporation, you would go out and you would, you know, work on the floor a little bit.
	You'd maybe carry something, throw something in your truck.
	A lot of the jobs like that have just disappeared because of technology.
	It's not necessarily a cultural thing, although that's part of it, of course.
	But, you know, technological improvements have made it so that a lot of men have very sedentary jobs, like myself.
	I'm a YouTuber.
	I have a very effeminate job, really.
	It's a weak man's job.
	It's not a strong man's job.
	So what were you doing in the last few days in Oregon with your family?
	Well, you know, we have a farm out here, so I did have to, you know, our well broke, so I had to go and dig a trench about 10 feet by 4 feet trench with a shovel with my father.
	That was not so much fun with the clay that we got out here.
	And then we did, what else did I do?
	Oh yeah, one of the fences needed to be repaired, so we built this whole fence for the cows.
	And yeah, you know, and that stuff is actually great fun if you haven't done it in a while, like you haven't actually got out and done any physical labor because you're writing scripts and making YouTube videos.
	It's kind of a bit of fun.
	It's good.
	It's gratifying.
	And, you know, even if you're a guy that works in the city, you work at a desk, there is this compulsion to go to the gym, lift heavy weights, do something physical.
	I think it's in the nature of men.
	And so, but I do think that you kind of have to redefine what is masculinity because certainly it absolutely is.
	You know, riding horses, riding a motorcycle, you know, lifting weights, you know, doing the masculine stuff, you know, fixing your car or, you know, being able to fight, get into a fight or going to war.
	All these things are indeed very masculine, but in a world devoid of the necessity for those things, oftentimes, how do you define masculine?
	And I was thinking about it the other day and I, it occurred to me that like, there are challenges in life.
	There are challenges in life and there's two ways to face those challenges.
	You can look that challenge in the face and you can take it on, or you can run away.
	And to me, it is the quintessential masculinity to stand up to conflict, to stand up against conflict.
	That's not being combative.
	Being combative, I think, is generated from lack of, like, insecurity, being combative.
	So it's not being combative.
	It's just a willingness to stand up to challenges and not run away.
	To me, that is quintessential masculinity.
	And you needed to find it that way because of the society that we live in.
	But I wouldn't take away from those sort of traditionally masculine things.
	I do think that men should engage in some traditionally masculine things just to satisfy our nature.
	We do have a nature that demands that we do that stuff.
	And we do need to do that stuff from time to time, I think.
	I think I need a battle buddy.
	I love listening to you, you know, really unpack right now how, you know, you feminized yourself, Chris, by sitting down and becoming a YouTuber.
	I think you and I, because I love, you know, I'm a lazy SOB as well, but sometimes I just
	love doing things like cutting wood.
	I mean, just, you know, cutting wood.
	I think every week, maybe we should do this now in front of three and a half million people.
	Maybe we should make a promise to each other.
	Every week we've got to tell each other the one really manly physical thing we did.
	What do you think?
	I think that's a great idea.
	You like bike riding.
	I'll be chopping wood.
	But, you know, it's like the only thing I do of any regularity like that is with my
	White House buddy, Boris Epstein.
	Whenever we have a really good cigar, we send each other a photograph of the cigar we're
	I think this might be a little bit more important.
	Are you up for that?
	Absolutely, you know, hike a mountain, swim in the ocean, fight a shark, you know, that kind of thing.
	Yeah, let's do that.
	Fight a megalodon.
	I love it.
	Let's get back to the assault on masculinity.
	We'll fix our own masculinity with our text messages.
	You cover the culture so well with such a keen eye.
	This may be impossible to answer, but for you, is there a locus of the assault?
	Where is the assault being most generated from?
	Is it the schools, the teacher training colleges, the media, social media, the Democrat Party, the remnants of the Frankfurt School?
	If you had to see, you know, who's the queen bee of this all, where is it being generated most?
	Well, I do think at the core it comes from feminism, right?
	Yeah.
	Feminism is a weird thing because it's not just about saying women are equal.
	They pretend that it's about that, but it's not.
	It's a lot of the hardcore radical feminists say that basically that women should be men and men should be women, right?
	They say men are too violent and therefore they need to calm down and become more docile, more like women, more feminine.
	And women are too weak.
	Feminists weirdly tend to believe that women are weak, that femininity is weak.
	And so they want to masculinize women.
	And this is, of course, terrible, because what is the masculinization of women?
	It's precisely the toxic masculinity that they tell us is terrible in men.
	They say women should act tough, women should be aggressive, women should be violent.
	And it's like, well, that's exactly what you said men should not be.
	Men should be docile and weak.
	And here's the problem.
	Here's the problem with this.
	The really bad problem is because you can have more masculine women and it's not that bad for society.
	They're just a little bit less attractive.
	But if you feminize men, Weak men make evil men.
	Okay?
	Strong men make good men.
	If you're strong, you're willing to stand up against any challenge.
	Think about it like this.
	Just imagine being in an office and there's a guy that annoys the hell out of you.
	And you know, you're a strong man.
	You go up to the guy and you say, this is my problem with you.
	This, this, and this.
	And the guy says, ah, you know what?
	Look, it's just a misunderstanding.
	This is this problem.
	And you're right about that.
	I'm kind of a dick.
	I'll change that.
	Whatever.
	And you can kind of maybe deal with it.
	Or maybe you just hate each other through the whole time.
	It doesn't matter.
	If you're a weak man, you don't confront the guy because you're conflict averse.
	So what do you do?
	You spread rumors about him.
	You go to the boss and you try to get him fired.
	This is evil.
	Weak men run from battle.
	Strong men fight.
	And to me, it's a much easier path to being a good man by being a strong man.
	And for society to try to feminize men, you're weakening men across society and you're just making society a more evil place to live.
	Yeah.
	Fabulously put.
	I think we have the title for this episode.
	Although I know we'll have much more superb to make note of.
	Weak men make evil men.
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	All right, Chris, I love this question because we get all kinds of wacky answers from seals who said it was, you know, heroes of Tom Clancy novels to Fellow radio host saying it was that football coach in high school.
	He's the one.
	Not everyone can have an amazing dad.
	For you, who most helped you understand what it means to be a true man?
	No, it absolutely was my father.
	I was very, very lucky.
	I'm currently, I'm not actually outside.
	This is a photograph I took of the outside of my parents' home.
	I'm actually in a big old factory out here in Salem, Oregon.
	My family produces plastic extrusions, which I'm not going to get into the details of, but the point is... They are the American dream, right?
	Your family, your dad, the factory?
	They're not just the American dream.
	They are the quintessential American dream.
	My dad started from nothing.
	He bought a couple of machines when he was laying carpet, when he was in his 20s, to be able to produce these plastic extrusions.
	We've now got post-tensioning cable in the Freedom Tower, which is phenomenal to me.
	Like, that's part of, you know, the American fabric.
	And yeah, my father started this company.
	It's a pretty decent sized company now.
	And yeah, I'm currently in that factory because my dad has bad Wi-Fi.
	We just got the Wi-Fi replaced in the house on the farm.
	But yeah, we've got really good Wi-Fi here.
	So that's why I'm shooting here.
	I'm streaming from here.
	Well, we appreciate it.
	You broke the image now.
	You've like busted Hollywood forever.
	We thought you were on the balcony of your parents' farm in Oregon.
	But that's such a great story.
	Tell us what are the values, what are the characteristics that you internalize from your father.
	Give us some words for what he is or what he taught you.
	What is it to be a man for Chris Coles?
	You know what, when I talk about the conflict not being conflict averse, I don't think I've ever seen my dad throw a punch.
	But I've certainly seen him stand up to people who looked like they were going to throw a punch.
	My dad did that at 6'2".
	You know, he's a pretty big dude.
	And everyone knows that Sebastian Gorka is willing to stand up to an annoying reporter from time to time.
	You may or may not be famous for that.
	But that's kind of how my dad is as well.
	My dad was always like, look, you got to stand up to the bully.
	If you don't stand up to the bully, the bully is going to keep bullying you for the rest of the year or even maybe for the rest of your life.
	So you can't be like George McFly at the beginning of Back to the Future.
	You got to be like George McFly at the end of Back to the Future and knock the bully out.
	And that was always kind of how I lived my life.
	There was almost a pressure, even as a kid, even as like a six-year-old, seven-year-old, if somebody was being, you know, a bad kid or wrong or bullying you or your friends, you had to stand up against them.
	I remember at one point I stood up to a group of guys, and there were some guys behind me, I was like, you know, we're not going to take your crap, you know, stand up to them.
	And I look behind me and all my friends were gone.
	And I thought, well, crap, you know, this is just going to be me, I guess.
	But, you know, that's how, you know, my dad taught me, you know, don't back down from a fight.
	Don't back down from a conflict.
	You got to be a responsible man.
	And I learned how to build a business, you know, from my father.
	And I learned how to be, I think, a good father from my father as well.
	Now my brother's got kids.
	He's a great dad.
	And, uh, yeah, and my other brother, he doesn't have kids yet, but he's, he's a really a good man.
	He's got a great business of his own.
	So yeah, we all turned out pretty dang good.
	And I think it's usually do when, when people end up good, like a whole family of kids end up pretty good.
	I think it's typically due to having a good father.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And so much of what you say is about this concept of standing up to bullies and I think that's, you know, you can see that today in American politics.
	What is, you know, translate Donald Trump versus the Uniparty or Donald Trump versus the Deep State into, you know, playground English and you're talking about standing up to bullies.
	You know, whether it's BLM, whether it's the Democrats, whether it's Rogue prosecutors, whether it's the FBI going after you because you're a pro-life preacher, those institutions, those individuals, those entities are bullies, and that's why they detest this man, and that's why the mugshot exists of the 45th President of the United States, and that's why that look on his face, I mean, put it out, we made a t-shirt out of this, that look is, I am not taking your crap anymore as a bully.
	Look at that face.
	That's why they hate him, I think.
	I have a theory.
	They hate him because he's a man's man and he's standing up to bullies.
	If you support President Trump, you should wear that t-shirt with pride.
	You should get that mug.
	It's sebgorkastore.com.
	Even if you don't buy it, I don't care.
	Most important thing, support the man who's standing up to the bullies at donaldjtrump.com.
	That's donaldjtrump.com.
	Okay, I'm going to throw something back at you, dear friend, because it was so Incredibly sagacious.
	You've done this many, many times in our multiple movie reviews.
	You talked about what it means to be a man.
	And I'd like you to unpack what you said in that movie review.
	You said, any other man in the world can be a potential threat.
	A real threat.
	Not only to you, but to your loved ones, your girlfriend, your wife, your children.
	And you said something like, and I don't want to put words in your mouth, so I'm going to tell you what I remember, and then I want you to expand upon it.
	Because I've been discussing this with my wife since you said it.
	I mean, this is such deep, deep atavistic truth.
	You said the ultimate test of a man, or the ultimate definition of a man, That a woman cannot do.
	You have to be the final...
	Line of defense, because every other man could be a threat.
	God willing, they're not, but they could be a mugger, a killer, a rapist, whatever.
	And it is you, you, that stand between that potential threat and your loved ones.
	That kind of hit me like a gut punch, the level of truth you said.
	Would you, would you just say more on that concept, please, Chris?
	Because I think it's essential to understanding what our job is.
	If we, if we have testicles, we have to understand what our job is.
	Yeah, look, I mean, what I was trying to say there is that being a man is tough, right?
	It's not as easy as people think.
	We never complain about it.
	We never talk about this.
	But being a man is a very lonely thing at its core.
	At its core, we are alone.
	Men are alone.
	Women are not.
	Women will have a husband.
	They'll have a family and we can rely on our wife.
	But at the end of the day, when it comes down to it, if there's the apocalypse and we got to fight for our family, we can't rely on anyone.
	It's us against the world.
	We have to defend the family.
	So I think at our core we do view every other man as a threat.
	And it's very hard to make those very strong bonds between other men.
	Really, because they are, at the end of the day, potentially the enemy.
	Even friends can be the enemy.
	So, you know, you always look at a guy like, can I take that guy down?
	You know, if I can't take him down with a punch, what weapon would I need?
	You know what I mean?
	Like, every guy is a potential enemy at our core, so we're all kind of isolated from each other, and that's a bit tough.
	Yes, community is good.
	Yes, fellowship is good.
	Brotherhood is good.
	Church is good.
	But I do think there is that combative nature at our core that, you know, our willingness to engage in that potential conflict at the end of the day, it does create a little bit of a loneliness in men, but it is critical.
	And I think there's True men are okay being alone.
	You know, if you really want to be a confident man, you have to be able to just be alone for a day with your own thoughts and be okay with that.
	And I think it's the men who are not okay with that for whatever reason.
	Maybe they've endured trauma or maybe they're just a weak guy and they don't like themselves.
	But whatever it is, you got to get over that and fix that if you want to be a truly masculine man in this world, I think.
	You can be, you know, my age, 52.
	You can be, you know, a 16-year-old guy listening to this.
	I want everybody who's listening to go away after the show and just think about what Chris just said.
	Because no truer word.
	You have to be okay with being lonely.
	And not in the sense of being, you know, a loner.
	But you have to be comfortable with one concept.
	Understanding that at the end of the day, you have nobody to rely upon.
	There's no excuse.
	When danger comes, you are the answer to that danger.
	You cannot insist anybody else helps you.
	And that's what's happened to whole generations.
	This expectation that either I have to be safe, Or somebody else has a responsibility to keep me safe.
	No, you are the person who's responsible for your safety and your loved one's safety.
	Tied to that, I love this idea of you have to be comfortable with being alone and the idea also, I think Jordan Peterson says, a man has to be dangerous.
	Not all the time, but he has to be willing to be dangerous when justified.
	I think that's what you're talking about.
	I want to ask Chris Coles, You know, be as honest as you want or avoid the question if you must.
	Why do you do what you do?
	Because, I mean, there are people like you.
	Who have institutional support.
	You know, the Andrew Clavens or, you know, the Ben Shapiros that have these multi-hundred million dollar institutions behind them to tell the truth.
	Or the Tucker Carlson who doesn't have to work another day in his life.
	Chris doesn't have, you know, a billion dollar industry behind him.
	He doesn't have a 20 million dollar a year contract with Fox who are paying him not to work.
	But God bless you, Chris.
	You are actually braver than all of them because you don't have that safety net.
	So I want to ask you right now, as a friend, Tell us how you have the courage to do what you do, Chris, and what makes you do it every day.
	Because some of the stuff you put out there on YouTube, nobody else has the balls to do that, Chris.
	So tell us why you do that.
	Yeah, no, I mean, being sort of an individual YouTube producer does, in fact, give me that freedom to some degree.
	I mean, obviously, YouTube tries to suppress me, but I'll use code language, coded language, and try to get around the censors a little bit.
	But look, when I was a kid, I was watching, I believe it was an Indiana Jones movie.
	It might have been Raiders.
	And I remember thinking, I want to be Indiana Jones.
	I want to be like him.
	I want to think like him.
	I want to do everything like him.
	And then I thought, wow, that's an incredibly powerful thing to have happen.
	Because I recognized that this wasn't real.
	I recognized that this was created by a writer.
	I love books when I was getting stories.
	And I realized, wow, writers have a lot of power.
	Writers can actually make a person want to be something they're not.
	You can make somebody think a way that they may not naturally think.
	You can convince people of philosophical ideas.
	Religious ideas that they may not have believed before, just by writing a character that believes those things and is compelling enough to make people want to be them.
	So when I was younger, I actually, even from a young age, I thought, you know, Hollywood isn't a particularly good place.
	It's not filled with good people with good intentions.
	Right.
	A lot of these people are evil people.
	And I thought, I would love to have the same power as the Hollywood writer, but be a good person.
	That's actually what I was thinking when I was a kid.
	So I wanted for many years, I wanted to go to Hollywood, write scripts.
	I've written many scripts in my life.
	None of them have been produced, but I've always wanted to produce content.
	That would change the world in a positive way.
	Like conversations like this that I'm having with you, but set in a movie context or TV show context or a video game, something like that.
	I was unable to be successful in that capacity.
	You know, Hollywood is a very leftist place.
	It's a very evil place.
	I don't really necessarily get along with all of those kinds of people in Hollywood.
	I was very bad at networking.
	One day I decided I'm going to try to do a YouTube channel about this kind of stuff, right?
	And instead of Talking in stories, I'm going to speak directly about what I believe, and it touched a nerve, and a lot of people agree with me, and a lot of people like the show.
	Well, you know, you've impressed me greatly.
	Honored to have you counted as a friend, and to have you co-host our show every week here, where we celebrate those values through, you know, the good stuff that Hollywood made.
	God bless you, Chris Coles.
	Follow him at MrReaganUSA on Twitter and subscribe right now to both of his channels, MrReagan and also The Alpha Critic.
	All right, we're almost done.
	Let's have a little bit of fun before we ask the last question to our guest here on the Manhood Hour.
	Last year, you came to the Swamp.
	Well, I forced you to come to the Swamp with your brother for the biggest concerted convocation of the year.
	It is CPAC, of course.
	I think we all had a lot of fun, especially after the closing speech by my former boss, President Trump, where I said, Well, damn the torpedoes and the secret service.
	We're going to go say hi to my former boss and we start behind the stage and we have some b-roll of the president just after he gave his speech.
	He was signing the CPAC speakers board there and you were hanging out with me and your brother.
	I think you turn up at the end of this video and he stopped to say hello to me and then classic Trump style he turned to you he just met you and your brother and he said I love this guy Gawker!
	He's great!
	I mean, he didn't have to do that.
	He didn't have to do that.
	I've got a theory I want to run by you.
	I think there's lots of political reasons, class reasons, envy reasons, you know, whatever it is.
	I think a lot of the reasons they detest this man so much, they want to put him in prison, is because he's so manly and they're just such a bunch of beeda, cuckold, soy drinking, latte, sad cases.
	What do you think of that theory, Chris?
	No, yeah.
	Donald Trump is exactly the kind of guy I was talking about.
	He doesn't necessarily chop wood or anything like that, you know, but he is definitely a masculine, old-fashioned masculine guy.
	And look, we've gotten to a place in society where we're so comfortable that we now have to create fake masculinity.
	There's fake masculinity now, like this guy like Andrew Tate.
	He comes out and is like, I'm an alpha male, I'm an alpha male.
	He's obviously a nerd, a loser, weak guy who decided I'm going to try to increase my value in society by learning to fight.
	And like, fair enough.
	I respect that.
	The guy learned to fight, he became a good fighter.
	Good job for that.
	But then he goes out and he's like, I'm going to be a misogynist a-hole and that's going to show everybody how masculine and cool I am.
	Well, you're not actually masculine and cool.
	You're covering up for your insecurities.
	The guy's obviously one of the most insecure people I've ever seen in my life.
	He once said that it would be better to have sex with a transgender male that looks very effeminate than an ugly woman.
	Okay, the guy's obviously messed up in the head, right?
	But he's the standard for a lot of guys of what masculinity is, and that makes me very sad.
	Because that is a weak person who's putting on the facade of masculinity as opposed to a guy who is genuinely, truly a real man.
	I am so grateful.
	We never rehearsed any of this.
	We never do.
	And the fact that you said what you did about Andrew Tate, I could not agree with you more.
	He's a punk.
	He's an anti-man.
	He's a sad little weakling who actually likes to Prostitute women and beat them up on camera.
	If you don't believe me go to the Milk Bar account on Twitter and you can see the videos of what Tate is in real life.
	We'll be interviewing the man behind Milk Bar next week here on the show and I think I think we could actually devote a whole hour to that discussion of who that man is and his influence negatively on the The generation of men that are following his lead today.
	But that's for another time.
	Before we close our discussion with Chris, we have to discuss one of his best videos that goes straight to the point.
	It is the parody of the Woke Gillette ad, the Gillette ad that talked about toxic masculinity, which is kind of stupid if you're selling razor blades.
	But here's just a little clip from Chris's response.
	We know that most of you men in America are unaware of this, so we at Gillette are here to educate you.
	Bullying is mean and bad.
	No, seriously, though.
	Bullying is really bad and mean.
	Okay, is this kid who's hugging his mom calling her a loser and saying everybody hates you?
	That's kind of mean, kid.
	I don't... And how do they not see these other kids running through their house?
	Do they just not care, or... I don't really understand what's happening here.
	Look at this sexist cartoon.
	We had to stage this because we couldn't find any archival footage of men harassing women, so we had to invent some.
	That is one of my favorite lines from the video.
	We couldn't find any archival footage of sitcoms with men harassing women, so we had to make it up.
	Chris, I have to ask you, was that one of your favorite videos?
	It must have taken you days.
	Was that one of your favorite ones to make?
	Yeah, that was actually even before the AOC video.
	That was my first viral hit.
	That was a lot of fun.
	I put on the Wolverine voice for the voiceover.
	And yeah, it was great fun.
	You know, it was like, because Gillette had produced this video that was supposed to, I think in their heads, it was like, oh, this is, this is actually going to express the truth about men.
	Right.
	And like, you're selling razors to men.
	Maybe don't go around saying men are awful because that was essentially what they were saying.
	And they were trying to say it in a clever way.
	And I thought, no, Look, I'm just gonna put it out there, what you're actually saying, literally.
	I didn't even really have to change the script that much.
	No!
	I just took what they did, and I made it more literal than metaphorical.
	Right.
	And, you know, everybody laughed because they were like, yeah, that's what Gillette was doing.
	They are evil.
	You did add one thing, though, and it was hilarious.
	You did add the thing that, and gingers are evil.
	That's right.
	Because they picked on ginger kids for some reason.
	It's very strange.
	Last question of all.
	In all of these things, I could do this for another three hours with you, Chris.
	You're such a jewel.
	On this issue of the assault on masculinity, With the rise of Jordan Peterson with some brave women who are standing up to the transgender freaks like uh who's that swimmer um Will Thomas.
	Gaines.
	Yeah Riley Gaines yeah.
	Are you an optimist or a pessimist?
	Are we gonna win this war?
	It's tough.
	I am an optimist, you know.
	By my nature, I am an optimist.
	And it is very difficult right now because we are being attacked on every side.
	And I feel like, you know, with the 2020 election and the 2024 election coming up, I just did a video speculating on how they're going to try to steal that by taking Trump off the ballots in the swing states.
	It's kind of terrifying, and I do feel like there's a lot of push from the left to change society to be more feminine.
	There's this guy I talked to the other day here in Oregon who's like, oh, my kids are really conservative, but all their friends are gay and all their teachers are gay, and so they're very leftist with the gay thing.
	And I said, tell them it's the expression of a mental illness.
	And I don't know if he's going to or not, but I feel like that kind of idea is slipping away.
	And I think that we are sort of encroaching and, you know, we're going more and more crazy.
	But I will say, I went to a barbecue the other day with all the folks from my brother's church, and I could not have been more impressed.
	It was like a real norm.
	I should have videoed it.
	It was like the most normal American day I've had probably since the 1990s, you know.
	It was fantastic, and everybody there was just amazing.
	Just really good families.
	A lot of little kids running around, jumping on the trampoline, and, you know, we're playing, what do you call it, cornhole, and, you know, having hamburgers, you know.
	It was one of the most amazing days I've had in years.
	Just because it was so normal.
	Outside of my own family, anyway.
	It was just very normal, and it gave me a lot of hope.
	And I thought, you know what?
	There's thousands, millions of families like this all over America, having barbecues, wanting to have a normal life.
	And let me tell you, everybody there was a conservative and There were several people who were actually fans of my show, which was fantastic.
	Well, that's what we love to hear.
	That's the effect of this man.
	And we have to be optimists because, really, the way America goes is the way Western civilization goes.
	Support this man.
	Follow him, the Alpha Critic, the Mr. Reagan channels on YouTube and on Twitter, MrReaganUSA.
	Keep doing what you do, my friend.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	You've been listening to The Manhood Hour.
	Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, keep your head on a swivel.
	Watch your six.
	Hold the line.
	Never give up.

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