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This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
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Welcome, dear friends.
We have breaking news earlier today.
After eight months of waiting, the new Speaker of the House, new in quote marks, has announced that the beginnings of an impeachment inquiry against the 46th President of the United States, Joe Biden, will begin.
We will focus on that with our special guest.
It's a rare, rare opportunity to talk to my former superior in the White House, former naval officer, the host of The War Room, Stephen K. Bannon, former chief strategist to President Trump, will be with us for the third hour of the show, and we will discuss that and so much more.
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But it is still the week of the 22nd anniversary of September the 11th.
And we will continue to remember that day because the day that changed the world, and it changed the world in geopolitical ways, economic ways, strategic ways, but mostly for the families of those who died that day.
Not those simply who died on the aircraft killed by those jihadi terrorists, but the brave men and women who were there at Ground Zero, who were there in the Pentagon, who were there on that plane that dived into that field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
The brave men and women who ran up the stairs of the Twin Towers to rescue their fellow men and women.
And I want to share with you an amazing piece of audio from two of the ladies who were on flight 93.
The flight where where the passengers knew what was happening.
They'd heard what had happened to the other two planes and they decided to Take fate into their own hands, led by a man who made the phrase Let's Roll famous.
Improvising weapons such as the drinks trolley and fire extinguishers, they breached the door of the cockpit and wrestled control of that massive airframe from the jihadi terrorists who had killed the pilots and the air stewardesses.
And they said, No, you're not using this plane to kill more innocent people.
You're not flying it into Congress or anywhere else.
And they flew it into the ground to save who knows how many more thousands.
Two women were able to connect telephonically with their loved ones.
And I want you to listen to the voicemails they left for their family members and in one case for their sister.
Audio cut 12.
Honey, are you there?
Jack?
Pick up, sweetie.
Okay, well I just wanted to tell you I love you.
We're having a little problem on the plane.
Um, I'm totally fine.
Um, I just love you more than anything.
Just know that.
And, uh, you know, I, I'm, you know, I'm uncomfortable and I'm okay.
For now.
Um, just a little problem, so I'll, uh, I, I just love you.
Please tell my family I love them too.
Bye, Ernie.
Elsa, it's Lynn.
Um, I only have a minute.
I'm on United 93, and it's been hijacked, um, by terrorists who say they have a bomb.
Apparently, they, uh, have flown a couple of planes into the World Trade Center already, and it looks like they're gonna take this one down as well.
Hopefully, I just wanted to say I love you, and I'm gonna miss you, and, and please give my love to one another, and Mostly, I just love you, and I just wanted to tell you that.
I don't know if I'm gonna be able to tell you that again or not.
Um, I put all my stuff into the safe.
The, uh, the safe is in my closet in my bedroom.
The combination is you push D for clear, and then 0913.
And then, uh, and then it should, and maybe pound, and then it should unlock.
I love you, and I hope I can talk to you soon.
Bye.
The first voice was Lauren Catuzzi Grandalis, leaving a message for her husband, Jack.
Lauren was three months pregnant.
Second call was Linda Gronlund, leaving a message for her sister, Elsa.
One day a year is not enough to remember what happened that day.
I'd like you to keep the families of those affected by the mass murder on that beautiful, sunny Tuesday morning in your prayers.
I'd like you to pray for the souls of those who were murdered.
I'd like you also to spare a moment For the unsung heroes of that day, not those who simply ran into those buildings risking everything, but those who, well, were prepared to die to stop another plane being used as a weapon.
I have a short clip from CBS from two National Guard pilots fighter pilots.
One is now Lieutenant General Mark Sassville and his wingman or woman Heather Penny callsign Lucky.
They were scrambled that day.
Instead of waiting 15 minutes to clear their aircraft for takeoff, they didn't.
They got in the cockpit.
And they flew to intercept any fourth aircraft.
And they did so without any missiles on their airframes.
How would they have stopped another hijacked jumbo jet?
By flying their fighter jets into that Boeing.
And here they are telling how they made that decision that morning.
Cut 13.
And so as we're running out to the airplane, you know, the thought occurred to us, we do need to kind of understand how we're going to do that.
And so we, she and I, Lucky and I, had a game plan on how we might approach that.
But the fundamental premise is we were going to have to hit the airplane and disable it somehow.
Either get the flight controls or the propulsion system or some part of the airplane that would make it alter its course and not hit its target.
A kamikaze mission.
We had no missiles.
Our only choice was going to be to ram the airliner.
Sir, I remember you would take the cockpit to aim at the terrorists.
And I would take the tail.
And you said that?
We did.
As we're running out to the airplane.
And so when he said that to you, what did you think?
Of course.
It was obvious.
It was so clear what needed to be done.
In an age where we have no national sovereignty, we are run by commanders-in-chief who hide in Alaska and lie about going to ground zero the day after September the 11th.
In an age when they're trying to neuter, destroy our military, We salute those lost on that day, the families of those lost, and heroes, like General Sassville and Heather Penny, called Sign Lucky.
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Now, dear friends, you know how here we dedicate, well, a large chunk of what we do every day, and especially one hour specifically on Mondays, to masculinity, to manhood, to the assault on what it means to be a man.
And we have amazing guests.
You heard Chris Coles yesterday on the Manhood Hour.
Why are we doing this?
Well, number one, because the concept of masculinity, of being a classic man, is under assault by the ideologues, by the transgender lobby, the new wave feminists, you name it.
But also, because men who are looking for meaning are being led astray by some very dangerous people.
People like Andrew Tate, who says he's providing answers, but really, he's no man, he's a coward.
And sadly, some people are platforming him, even after he was credibly charged and arrested with being a trafficker of women and assaulting women.
People like Tucker Carlson.
Tucker Carlson?
And even Candace Owens did very high-profile video interviews with Andrew Tate.
But they left some things out.
Here's an example of some of the things they strangely forgot to ask him about.
Play cut.
And over time I just build up this big, this big little empire of webcam girls.
At one point I had four locations, 75 girls working for me.
I'd take around half of the money, around 50%.
You'd take 50%?
Around 50%.
They thought they were on 50%.
And I said that the disparity was because of taxes.
He would just pay me a flat fee of £15 an hour.
We got to the point where we had these guys falling in love with my models.
Serious, big time in love, right?
Sending crazy money.
And they were convinced they were going to meet the chick.
This is almost where I kind of felt bad.
Because they were like, can we meet?
I've sent you $200,000.
When you look at the money that I was actually bringing in, it just doesn't even scratch the surface.
I had these guys selling their houses, life savings, loans, all of it to me.
Give me it all.
I'd call that sexually exploiting women.
Strange how that made it out of those interviews, but one man who has been dogged in his exposition of this very dangerous man.
Well, he goes by the name of Milk Bar TV, but he's actually called Nathan Livingston, and he's coming to us from the other side of the world, and we are very grateful you stayed up late.
Thank you, Nathan.
Welcome to America First.
Thank you for having me, Sebastian.
So, first things first, who are you and why are you doing this?
Why have you done, I think, this incredibly important job of telling the truth about somebody who says, I'm a real man and subscribe to my membership cult and I'll teach you how to be a man.
Why are you devoting so much of your time?
Whenever I find a new video of yours, I retweet it, I send it out there.
Why are you devoting so much of your time to showing the world the real Andrew Tate?
Well, I appreciate you being very good at sharing my videos.
I'm Australian, and I was living in Melbourne, where we experienced the longest and hardest lockdown in the world.
And I, in fact, lost my job for refusing the COVID jabs.
I've got a filmmaking background, so I found myself with some spare time, so I started making videos.
Pointing out the hypocrisy and the corruption and the kind of madness of all the covert tyranny.
And then I had a son with my wife, and I'm just a forklift driver who does some videos on the side.
But I guess having a son, it kind of made me think about, what's the world that I want my boy to be brought up in?
You know, Andrew Tate kind of got bigger and bigger and more famous over the past kind of years, just kind of around the same time when I started making videos.
And, you know, for me, it was kind of a natural segue from kind of looking at the hypocrisy of kind of bureaucrats and these kind of covert tyrants to look at Andrew Tate, this person who kind of Um, in the, in the circles of kind of people who stood against COVID tyranny, uh, they seem to embrace this guy as some sort of a, a truth teller.
Um, where I started to kind of realize, no, he was actually a con artist.
He's a scammer.
Um, and like you pointed out, and like you showed in the video, he's got a background of, um, sexually exploiting women at the very least.
And at the most, uh, a human trafficker.
Um, and so yeah, that's how I approached it.
That's how I started making videos, trying to kind of really highlight who, uh, who this man actually is.
It's so very, very important and I'm so glad you're doing it.
The Twitter account is TheMilkBarTV.
You can support Nathan at his Patreon, patreon.com slash milk bar.
Do you have a theory why such influential conservative voices like Tucker Carlson, like Candice Owens, Managed to miss what you have found and gave this man a kind of clean bill of health.
Do you have any theory, Nathan?
They both have a relationship with him from the past.
Tucker's interviewed him previously and Candice has actually hung out with him in real life.
Her husband has some sort of a friendship or relationship.
I'm not exactly sure how Out close, but so they both have a kind of a background to Andrew Tate That's there kind of before he was Arrested and the criminal charges were there.
So I think that kind of clouds some of the judgment I think look he's good at what he does In the way that he gets clicks.
He's very popular online.
There's no doubt about that And he's very popular with a younger audience So I think there's definitely a kind of you know I'll scratch your back, you'll scratch mine, especially with Tucker.
Candice, I feel like, uh, Candice is, is always kind of a bit of a contrarian.
Um, she did her interview after my video went viral.
Um, and her interview was kind of a response to, uh, I think the impact that my video had where a lot of conservatives then kind of came out against, um, against Tate.
So that was her kind of reaction is to kind of.
Fly in there and do this interview where she would kind of try and represent him differently.
But not only that, it was very disturbing because in the interview she actually goes after the young women who accused Andrew Tate of exploiting them sexually.
So she's attacking the name of his victims which for a woman seems a very very strange thing to do.
We're talking to a man who is dedicated to the truth about a very dangerous individual called Andrew Tate.
He is the man behind Milk Bar TV.
Go to Twitter right now, themilkbartv.com.
The Patreon support this man is patreon.com slash milkbartv.
He's Nathan Livingston.
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This is an IQ test, right?
Because any guy who's bad with women would look at it and go, TAKES A WOMAN BEATER!
I say it!
Look at the camera!
This is what happens if you don't f***ing listen!
Look at the camera!
Why are you getting hit?
Why are you getting beaten?
Just f***ing listen!
F*** you!
Do as I say!
Any man who's actually a G, who's been around a little bit, would look at the video and go, Man, she loved it.
She wants that.
Yeah, that's really a good excuse that beating a woman is fine because afterwards the woman says she likes it.
You're no man.
You're a coward.
You're a creep, Andrew Tate.
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Nathan, quick question before we get on to a broader issue to do with the last three years in your wonderful country.
What's it like now to be famous?
Because you are doing something that you're not supposed to do.
You're not supposed to question alleged conservative icons.
You're not supposed to question the Investigative integrity of the likes of Tucker Carlson or Candice Owens.
So what's the life of Nathan Livingston been like in the last few months?
Well, I was a forklift driver for the past, I don't know how many years, and I did kind of filmmaking on the side.
But now I'm at the point where I'm doing freelance videos for the past A couple of weeks now, only.
So I'm doing that full time.
So that feels great to be able to actually be doing what I want to be doing.
But I'll tell you what, the reception from the Tate stuff is better than anything I've ever gotten in terms of feedback, where I get people on a daily basis telling me, you know, I used to be a fan of this guy.
Even parents saying, you know, my kids were fans of this guy.
Thank you so much for kind of Exposing him and I've even shared the videos with my my son and his friends so they tell me these things so I'm very proud of that but I can see that it's kind of having you know an actual impact.
Good.
Well, keep doing it.
God bless you.
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Got to ask you a question about Australia.
I love Australia.
I've been there.
It's culturally a unique place.
What on God's green earth happened to it under COVID?
If there's any nation that should have been filled with manly men who tell the little fascist like Fauci to go and stick it up their backside, it should have been the Australians.
So, can you explain to me, I know it's province by province and it's different, I get it, but you know, you had COVID camps in Australia?
I don't get it, Nathan.
I know, if you were going to pick between Canada or Australia, with who was going to have truckers, that would be our march for the victory.
So, can you help me understand it on the other side of the world?
I mean, I'm still trying to get my head around it, to be honest, and it still feels like a dream, but my best understanding is that we're big on maidship here, you know?
That's an important thing, so I think this element of people really bought into this idea of, you know, don't hit grammar, you've got to follow the rules, you know?
But also, We've just got complacent.
I think it's like the West, really.
We haven't experienced wars or hard times in a long time, so we're a little bit fat and kind of complacent.
I tell you what, we were meant to have the Commonwealth Games in Victoria, and it fell through because it was too expensive.
And our Premier, Dictator Dan Andrews, He's never been more disliked than losing the Commonwealth Games.
It wasn't the tyranny, it wasn't the corporate tyranny, it was him losing the Commonwealth Games.
So that tells you about the priorities.
All right, Nathan, will you just please sort out Australia for us?
If you can sort out Andrew Tait, will you please sort out Australia?
All right, last 30 seconds.
After all the research you've done, and God bless you for doing it, summarise in a sentence who Andrew Tait really is.
He's a scammer.
He's a sexual exploitator.
I think you'll very soon be found guilty of human trafficking.
And yeah, I think you'll be a convicted criminal very soon.
Well, I think if that's true, if that actually happens in large part, it'll be thanks to you.
And we need more people like that.
I mean, running a forklift truck, is very cool uh but this this is going to actually have a lasting effect and maybe maybe save some young men from going down the wrong path in life god bless you nathan livingston he is the host of the milk bar tv platform follow him on twitter at the milk bar tv
And also, please support his work at patreon.com slash MilkBarTV.
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All right, first on the line, line one, Dave Arizona.
Thank you so much.
Happy warrior dittos from Maricopa County, sir.
Thank you kindly.
What is your what is your topic of choice?
What is your question?
I'm going to keep impressing upon my representative because he works for me.
He is my servant.
Contact him multiple times per week via email on his website and voicemail as well and talk to his staff.
We need to vacate the chair.
It's not enough to open an inquiry nine months too late.
We need to move forward.
In addition... Hang on, hang on.
Let's stop there.
Let's stop there.
Let's talk about number one.
So what's the point of having a motion to vacate the chair, which is fancy parliamentary lingo for firing Kevin McCarthy?
What's the point of doing that if there's nobody else who can get the votes to be the speaker?
Well, somebody'll step up.
Maybe it'll be him.
Well, they didn't.
Back in January, they didn't.
One person was nominated.
I think Byron Donalds was nominated.
Who was it, Eric?
Somebody was nominated, and he got, like, what, 16 votes or something?
I believe it was Byron Donalds.
Yeah, but what's the point, Dave?
If eight months ago, one of the most charismatic people, who didn't even want to be the speaker, but somebody else nominated him, and he only gets 16 votes, I'm just being very pragmatic.
What's the point of firing Kevin McCarthy if he's the only person who can get the requisite number of votes?
What's your plan B?
Somebody else has to step up.
I work for a company.
We do 500 million in revenue.
When people don't perform, you know what we do?
We ask them to see the door.
Yes, and what if nobody wants to take the job of the person you fired, Dave?
That's too pessimistic.
There's always somebody that wants a job.
It's not pessimism.
It's what happened in January.
A lot of people, me included, didn't want Kevin.
And what happened?
Somebody put Byron Donald's name in the hat.
He got 16 votes.
What do you think's changed in the last 18 months?
I wanted Jim Jordan.
I told him on the show, hey Jim, would you be the speaker?
And he flat out said in front of three and a half million people, Dave, he said, no, I'm not interested.
I want to be chairman of judiciary.
You can't force somebody to do a job they don't want, Dave.
I don't disagree with you, and I agree with the position of Jim Jordan.
He's too valuable on judiciary.
I don't want him as Speaker.
I think we'd waste his skills.
But again, over eight months, somebody will step up.
Maybe it's somebody like Eli Crane, some new blood from Arizona.
We'll see, we'll see, we'll see.
Matt Gaetz may push for that, and we'll see if there's anybody who's going to step up to the plate.
What's your second comment or question, Dave?
Well, I think it's a requirement we have to get back to spending levels 2019 or before.
In fact, I tell Representative Gosar weekly, multiple times, we need a 30% cut across the board on the federal government.
End of subject.
If you were spending $32 trillion more than you had, how long could you continue?
It's ridiculous that the Fed keeps printing money.
Agreed.
It is one of the most outrageous things that both parties spend like drunken sailors on a Friday night, and they're doing it with our money.
Completely concur.
Thank you, Dave.
Let's go to Don, Los Angeles.
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I'm good.
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It's good to be back in studio.
What do you bring to us today, my friend?
Well, you know, it's really funny, Dr. G. I was telling Mr. G. It's a delicious irony, I think, that Republicans are trying to charge Democrats with crimes they've actually committed.
Or Democrats, for the last eight years or whatever, have been trying to charge Republicans with crimes they just made up out of thin air that are totally baseless.
Well, it's what my colleague and my friend Dennis Prager says is the left-wing MO.
They always accuse you of doing that which they are committing themselves, Don.
It's so true, you know.
I saw some book with this title, How Democracies Die.
It's by some left-winger.
It's like, yeah, you guys are the ones that are killing it.
You know, when they say Mr. Trump.
And his supporters are a threat to democracy.
They got a little bit wrong.
They're a threat to the Democratic Party and the deep state and they're not the same thing.
Yeah, it's like, I tweeted it out a few days ago, Rob Reiner, this Hollywood director who's a complete lunatic, he actually said, we have to guarantee that Donald Trump is prosecuted and sent to jail to save democracy.
I mean, that's the definition of fascism, Don.
That's the way to do it, yeah.
Right?
Right.
That's how you protect democracy.
You protect democracy by turning us into a fascist state.
Thank you, my friend.
Let's go to our other friend in Silver Spring, Victor.
Hi, Sebastian.
I got some bad news.
You don't sound very happy today, Victor.
What happened?
My fiancée passed away last Friday.
She was a mega-girl all the way through.
What happened?
She died of heart failure and I miss her terribly and she loved listening to your show and when we were at the Freedom Forum that WMAL had, she shouted out to you and you looked her way.
I remember that.
I remember that.
Yeah.
How are you doing, Victor?
Is it out of the blue?
Did she have health issues?
She had health issues, but things really started going downhill at the beginning of the year with double pneumonia and diabetes, and she had her thyroid removed, and then her heart was failing all along, and she had a pacemaker, and it just got worse and worse and worse.
And her stinking brother kept everybody away from her so I never really got a chance to see her.
Alright listen, I want to talk to you in the break.
Just give us her first name so we can keep her in our prayers.
What was your fiancé's first name?
Amy.
Amy.
All right.
We will keep Amy in our prayers.
Stay on the line, Victor, so we can continue in the break.
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Condolences to Victor, and I pray for Amy's soul and her family, except for her decrepit brother.
Unbelievable, unbelievable.
That was hard.
My wife recently had to do a funeral last Friday, so it's 9-11.
Death has been on my mind for quite a bit, but to bounce off the topic of Going against the fray and criticizing Tucker and Candace about their promoting of Andrew Tate, the pathetic waste of a man.
I'm a little PO'd at, I'm going to say his name, Mark Levin.
Why?
What did Mark do?
What is the accusation against the Great One?
So, I just, he tweeted saying, or X, whatever the heck it's called, kudos to McCarthy.
Kudos to McCarthy!
It took him eight months to get his ass in line, and it took Gates to go to, uh, bang, bang, fang, fang, Swalwell, to threaten to remove him from his chair, and he finally got his act together to, uh, start the impeachment inquiry?
What the hell?
It's just like, Mark!
Stop it.
Just say thank you for doing your job instead of saying kudos to McCarthy.
I would say there's one way to interpret that.
It's better than McCarthy not starting impeachment hearings.
Thank you class.
Let's squeeze in one more call.
Susan, line five.
Hi.
Hey.
You got a minute.
You got to be quick.
What's your question?
What's your comment?
No, two things.
Number one, I'm Hungarian.
Why did you marry in Sopron?
Because that's where my mother comes from.
Because that's where my parents were living and we got married in a 15th century church and it was beautiful.
No, no, no, no.
Can you please explain that more one day?
I'd love to know because, you know, all my relatives... It's really that simple.
My parents were living in Sopron.
Next question.
We got 30 seconds.
Okay.
I think the way that everything is done politically is framing the question.
Everybody's saying that Trump is trying to overturn the election.
He is not trying to overturn the election.
He's trying to rectify the election.
He's trying to get the exact real results.
You're absolutely right.
But the mainstream media, the establishment say, overturning the election.
You absolutely nailed it.
Stay on the line, Susan.
Let's send Susan a signed copy of The War for America's Soul.
Next up, the one, the only, Dan Bongino.
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Welcome back, dear friends.
There are a lot of people in our business, in media generally, who are rectal apertures.
My producer, Jeff, worked for one and survived the longest ever, I think.
How long did you work for that individual?
How long did you survive, Jeff?
Seven months, seven months too long.
And we are very glad to have you here.
However, if you make a mistake in our world, you are very rarely forgiven if you are one of those people.
And that is why I'm so glad that our first guest at the top of the hour is a decent man.
He's in this media world.
He's a giant of podcasting, of radio.
He's so big, they gave him the vaunted slot The great Rush Limbaugh's three hours.
And we are honored to have him on the show.
Dan Bongino, welcome to America First.
Hey man, good to be here.
How you guys doing?
I'm feeling much better because I screwed up.
You told me, hey, 3.30 on the 12th, I got a new book.
And I said, yes!
And I didn't tell my producer.
I'm not crazy, right?
I went back and looked.
No, you were right.
You were totally right.
I wanted to blame my producer, I wanted to scream at him in the break, and it was Mayor Culper, and you didn't do the usual thing, which is like to ghost me for the next three years.
So we are here to celebrate Dan Bongino, Bongino.com, Dbongino on Twitter, and dropped today, that's why he's on, it is the new book with an interesting title, The Gift of Failure.
Published by Dan, get it right now, especially the audiobook, which allegedly you recorded, Dan, correct?
Yeah, it's kind of funny.
The audio book, you know, you've written books before.
The audio book always trails behind the hardcover.
It just does.
I mean, it's just, I don't know.
People want to touch and feel a book.
The audio is running neck and neck with the hardcover.
And I think it's because it's my publishing company.
I did whatever I wanted.
And when I recorded the audio book, I just like improv throughout the whole audio book.
So I called it the director's cut, because I'd be reading the book.
You know, you'll get the book in there, but something would prod me.
And I was like, oh, you know what?
When I wrote this, I was just fighting with Paula that night or something.
So you'd do a Donald Trump, like you'd go off auto cue, and you'd just riff.
A hundred percent.
And some people, friends of mine, listen to the audio book and they said, brother, that's, that's crystal.
I think I've never heard that in an audio book before.
I said, well, this is my company.
You want to try something different?
I love it.
Yeah.
The book is, uh, it's a, you know, it's out today.
I appreciate having the honest, sometimes embarrassing, sometimes humiliating, sometimes funny book about all the things I screwed up.
And in the end, even though the book's titled the gift of failure, It's really a book about, you know, leadership and things I learned screwing everything up in my life.
So I'm really proud.
Well, you know, I love that idea.
I always said the hardest job in the White House is not National Security Advisor.
It's the guy who has the control of the auto cue teleprompter, because you never know when he's going off script and when President Trump is coming back.
That was a high pressure job.
But you've been there.
NYPD, Secret Service.
Now you have this incredibly successful media empire.
Dan, it's a peculiar title.
Explain to us why this title, The Gift of Failure, and I love the subheading, and I'll rethink the title of this book.
I prepare for my show.
I cheat.
My show prep is I listen to three hours of Chris Plant, and then I listen to as much of you as I can every day.
That's my show prep.
And I listen to you.
Again and again, every week you'll talk about, yeah, yeah, I ran for public office.
I was in the arena.
I failed.
And you don't hide it.
If I'd done something that big and hadn't, you know, squeaked past the finish, I would hide it.
Why do you repeat it and celebrate it?
And why have you written a book about it now?
Because, you know, life, unfortunately, a lot of the advice I got in life was really terrible.
You know, people speak in cliches because they think they sound cute.
And cliches are bull.
They're just BS.
They're garbage.
So people say, yeah, you know, don't quit.
Never give up.
Really?
Don't quit?
Never give up?
You're going to sprint for two miles?
No, no, I can.
I can't sprint.
I can only sprint for about 90 seconds.
Okay, so you're going to quit, right, at some point?
So I tell people, like, I give people real advice in the book.
Like, don't quit before the other guy.
That's real advice.
Train your body and your mind to be so hard that everyone else quits before you.
Like, that's real-world advice that's actually practical.
It's not BS I made up because it was on a bumper sticker.
And the reason I wrote the book It's because, you know, I deal with liberals all the time.
They're obviously lunatics.
I mean, that goes without saying.
But we took rumble after the failure imposed upon us by Parler.
Parler never failed.
It was taken offline by $3 trillion companies in the biggest social media freedom of speech fight of my time.
And the Parler story's in the book, too.
The inside scoop.
Because nobody knows what really happened.
They all pretend they do, but they have no idea.
So you'll see the behind-the-scenes of that.
But we went and made Rumble this really big monster free expression platform.
And we're sitting up there in New York, me and my wife, at the NASDAQ, getting ready to take it public at a $3 billion valuation.
And this is a great day.
And we're leaving in the rain in New York City.
The rain in New York City is good luck, of course.
And I'm reading all these tweets from all these deranged liberals.
What a failure.
This guy ran for office.
What a loser.
And I'm thinking, a company I own a good chunk of just won public for a couple billion dollars.
If this is losing, bring on the losing!
I don't think they understand all of these little failures.
So I said, I think I'm going to write a book about this.
And it's going to be my last one, which I can't do anymore.
This is going to be my last one.
It is a real albatross.
Writing a book.
I've done it three times.
It's an uphill battle, isn't it?
Well, as you know, if you're involved, I mean, the dirty little secret of books in Bolivia is not just...
Conservative books, liberal books too.
You know, people come to famous, I don't mean famous like in a nasty, I just mean like you sold a lot of books and they'll say, Hey, I got a book.
Can you put your name on?
Well, I don't do that.
My books are my stuff.
So yeah.
I mean, when you write a book like this, it's personal and you're on the phone with researchers and people all day.
I mean, this was, this was a big project.
It took a good six months of my life.
So yeah, it was a big deal, but it mattered to me because I really did want to express to people who think that I was some overnight success with radio and podcasts and books and stuff that that's not the case at all.
I was a 10-year failure before I was an overnight success.
But now we've got the likes of NPR.
I just love this.
This is when you know that you've made it.
When state NPR says how Dan Bongino is building a right-wing media infrastructure in time for 2024.
They must be really worried about you, Dan.
That's the nicest one.
I mean, the New York Times wrote another piece about how I dominated Facebook.
You know when I wrote the piece, it wasn't as a compliment.
They wrote it to signal to Facebook to censor me.
This was like two years ago.
The Washington Post one, the Manny Rojas one, was actually the fairest one.
I mean, it had to take the standard shots, right wing, all this other stuff, but that was actually the fairest one.
But yeah, they've been afraid of me for a long time.
I mean, my Facebook page has a greater reach than the New York Times and the Washington Post combined.
I mean, that's just a fact.
You can read about it in the Washington Post.
So yeah, they've been scared of me for a long time because, you know, we're on a lot of platforms.
I mean, we're the number two digital podcast behind Ben Shapiro for conservatives.
I don't know what number, third or fourth radio show.
We've got about 350 stations.
Facebook dominates.
So they hate it.
And they don't like it that I don't really care about what they have to say.
And they hate the irreverence.
You know, I mean, I just have no respect for these people at all.
And I show it.
And I just don't care what the response is.
I mean, we're going to cancel you.
Good luck.
Have a good time with that.
I'm on Rumble.
I'm a part owner of the company.
We own our own servers.
We're not trying to cancel.
I have to say, I haven't said this before, when we were nuked on YouTube, it's this man who got us live streaming on Rumble the very next Monday.
And I owe that to you, Dan.
Also, the fact that you let me bug you during the show, text you, it's a big deal, share with that...
Well, there's very few friends in this business and it is appreciated.
We're almost out of time.
You've got to get the book right now, right now, out today, published by the man himself, The Gift of Failure, Bongino.com.
We've got 90 seconds left.
Can you give us, I love rule number one of Dan Bongino, don't get dead.
Give us a few of your rules before we... Well, don't get dead is number one.
The second most important one is most Republicans on Capitol Hill are really Democrats.
However, no Democrats on Capitol Hill are really Republicans.
You remember Golden Rule No.
2?
After Golden Rule No.
1, don't get dead, and you'll never be disappointed in the Republican Party again.
Thank you for your service in uniform, out of uniform, protecting the Commander-in-Chief.
How are you feeling about, I've got to ask this of all my guests, the big names, are you an optimist or a pessimist about next year Dan Bongino?
30 seconds.
I was an optimist about 2022 and we lost.
So for pure tactics alone, I'm a pessimist.
I'm just playing the opposite game now.
I'm a pessimist.
All right.
He learned his lessons.
You can learn all of them in the new book.
It's at D. Bongino on social media.
The website is bongino.com.
And we're going to go out with some music that you're not allowed to put down because this was his mother's favorite song.
Jackie Wilson.
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Every day there's another story of the assault on women in America by the transgender extremists, people like Will Thomas, who think they can be a crappy swimmer, ranked, what, 400th in America, change his name to Leah, and then he can dash the hopes of real women who've been dedicating their lives to being athletes.
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It's not just an assault on women, it's an assault on children, and especially the unborn, in a shocking case that has led to people being found guilty of trying to protect the innocent.
It seems as if the left will brook no obstruction to the abortion genocide.
800,000 unborn children a year is a genocide.
Those are the figures in America.
Tens of millions since Roe v. Wade.
And to talk about the latest developments, we are honored to have Back in studio, Elise Ketsch and from the superb Thomas More Society, Senior Counsel Martin Cannon.
Welcome both of you to America First.
Thank you.
Thank you.
If I can start with you, Counsel Cannon, you sent me A shocking transcript of an undercover event inside an abortion clinic run by Cesar Santangelo.
I'll read some of it out if I may, if I'm permitted to.
But first, would you tell us what happened last week to the people you're representing and Elise's colleagues?
Yeah, well, we had a lengthy federal jury trial defending them from federal Face charges against the Biden Department of Justice and the U.S.
Attorney's Office.
This is the face act that is used to incarcerate people who are outside abortion clinics.
Well, outside or inside, it makes it a crime to use force, threat, or intimidation to impair access to abortion.
But it leaves most typical protest activity, First Amendment activity, untouched.
The government, though, likes to wrap all of that together and call all of it a federal Crime so that's what they did here and as soon as they got their conviction all of our clients were shackled up and marched off to to Jail pending sentence which might not happen for months at least you are involved with this Organization the the progressive organization that's fighting the abortion Industry what what was the crime of your friends and colleagues?
What did they do?
Oh?
Well, allegedly they blocked access, as the attorney said.
But more importantly, it's that they used some sort of force that equated to violence and therefore somehow violent enough to be detained before sentencing.
They accused them of breaking a nurse's ankle, which I've sat through the trial.
I saw the evidence.
I do not see where she fell and broke her ankle.
I don't doubt that she broke it.
I just don't think that the rescuers did it.
And will you tell us about this quote-unquote doctor and what was happening at this clinic because it's it's shocking it's truly this isn't just an abortion clinic this is horrific.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, Dr. Santangelo at Washington Surgery Clinic in Foggy Bottom has admitted that if there were to be abortion survivors from his later abortions, he wouldn't save them.
And in fact, we think he just kills them.
We found evidence last year, my colleagues including Lauren, who's now in jail, that there are children, they found, the bodies of these children that appear to have been full-term delivered and then either left to die or slaughtered.
Can I read out from this transcript you sent me, if I may, Mr. Cannon?
This is a discussion between a woman who's pretending she needs an abortion and the abortionist Dr. Sant'Angelo.
And I've just highlighted a couple of elements.
She says, you say you take it out intact.
The doctor says, we try.
You know, technically, legally, we would be obligated to help it, you know, wink wink, to survive.
But we would make sure that it, well, we just would not help it.
What does that mean?
Can you translate that for lay men and women?
This is a doctor who's delivering a baby and doing what to it, Mr. Cannon?
Just at the very least neglecting it to death, very possibly simply killing it.
The reason that's so important is not just because it's appalling and really reveals the truth of what abortion is, but a baby alive outside the woman's body at any stage of gestation is a person under federal law.
And there is he has moved from a place of no protection to a place of full protection.
And he's entitled to the same protections that any of us would be entitled to if somebody was trying to kill us.
That includes people breaking down doors and, you know, making a ruckus and having a sit in.
Anything that is charged under this face case would not come under face, does not come under face when we're trying to save live babies born alive and about to be killed on the counter.
Elise, what does this sentence mean?
This is Dr. Santangelo responding to the women's question about, you know, will this baby survive outside the womb?
He says, the procedure won't fail.
It hasn't ever failed as far as what you're talking about.
What does he mean there?
He's talking about his procedure to exsanguinate the child before they come out of the womb.
That's how he kills them.
He cuts the cord.
He bleeds them out.
And he lets them bleed out and then once he sees a sufficient amount of blood is gone and the cord isn't pulsing anymore, he delivers them dead.
And so he claims that this never fails, but we have evidence actually from a pro-abortion study that says that up to 50% of the time that fails.
I have the documentation here.
This is a journal article that says up to 52% of these procedures result in the death.
50.6%.
It's right here.
We've only got a minute and a half in this segment.
We'll keep you over.
Do we know, why does he want to deliver intact babies and then kill them?
Possibly because he wants to keep them for parts that he can sell, obviously from the videos of David Daleiden that were verified by the Supreme Court last week.
We know that Planned Parenthood does that.
I wouldn't be surprised if a later term abortion clinic does that.
But the other answer is that just, it's easier, it's less dangerous to deliver them whole.
We're talking to Elise Ketsch.
She's digital content creator for Progressive Anti-Abortion Uprising.
Follow her at Antipersonhood.
And the website is P-A-A-U-N-O-W.
Also, Martin Cannon Senior Counsel for the incredible Thomas More Society.
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We are back with our special guest to talk about this horrific case of an abortionist who seems to like to deliver children alive before he kills them.
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The former press secretary of the White House in the current administration decided with
her amazing credentials in medicine to weigh in on this issue because it seems as if there's
a shift from using the phrase pro-life to pro-baby.
I think that's genius.
Jan Psaki doesn't like it.
Cut 11.
Because they are seeking a rebrand.
Pro-life now becomes, in the words of Indiana Senator Todd Young, pro-baby.
Pro-baby.
I hate to break it to you, but if you call broccoli candy, it's still just broccoli.
If you tie a really nice bow around a lump of coal, it is still coal under there.
So, a human baby is a lump of coal.
I mean, these people are truly evil.
Let's illustrate the extent of the evil.
Mr. Cannon, you sent me a scientific journal article.
It's from Obstetrics and Gynecology.
It's got one, two, three, four, five, six co-authors.
And it is the analysis of 241 terminations, that's children who are killed, using the medical lingo.
And it says that 50.6% of them were delivered alive.
And the median survival time was 32 minutes, with one baby staying alive for more than
four hours.
Can you explain to us, sir, why a human baby outside the womb doesn't enjoy all the protections that our Constitution states in terms of the right to life?
Well, it is supposed to enjoy those protections, and because they weren't enjoying those protections, Congress even passed what's often known as the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, which essentially, it doesn't really say anything about abortion specifically.
It doesn't create any new duties or anything.
It simply says that a baby outside the womb at any stage of gestation is a person under federal law.
And as a person that gets all the same protections that you and I would also get.
The problem is if somebody kills you and me, they get prosecuted.
If somebody delivers a baby alive and sets it aside on the counter to die or just kills it directly, they don't get prosecuted because abortion is this sacred cow and the federal administration at this point is very much in the tank for the abortion industry and lets these things go by.
Elyse, we've played the video on this show, on my Newsmax show, multiple times with the FBI rocking up on your mother's doorstep looking for you because they're looking for your friend Lauren Handy.
How are her spirits right now after what happened last week?
Lauren is committed to what she does and what she did and she's in solidarity completely with the babies.
She sees this as experiencing the isolation a child has in the womb before they're aborted.
So she's really keeping a high spirit by remembering this is for the children.
What is the best way?
We'll keep all of the five in our prayers.
There's another five individuals who are going before the judge as well.
What is the best thing we can do for Lauren, you and your colleagues?
Support them financially.
They all have funds, which you can find on paaunow.org or on our socials, at paaunow.
And write them letters.
We have instructions on our website and socials.
Yeah, really good ways to do it.
So it's paaunow, paaunow.org.
Also, we want to have contributions made to the Thomas More Society.
God bless you, Mr. Cannon, for acting on their behalf.
We've got 30 seconds left.
I've got to ask you the question I mentioned in the break.
Is this an outlier?
Is this the case of one radical prosecutor?
Or will the FACE Act be used against others trying to protect the unborn?
I believe it will be.
The reason is I've handled a number of face cases separated by years over the last 30 or so that it's been in existence.
But right now there's been such a spike.
We've got five separate face cases going on at the moment and the DOJ has recently created a separate face department just to do these cases.
Legislation and DOJ departments to guarantee that children can be murdered.
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Honored yesterday to open the show with Mayor Giuliani.
Last year he opened his home to us and we took a film crew and we interviewed him for most of the afternoon for an oral history of what he lived through on September the 11th.
Here's part of that interview.
People are jumping out of the buildings.
My reaction is that can't be true.
Maybe Joe is overreacting or something.
And who's Joe?
Joe was my chief deputy mayor.
Number two to the mayor.
So, God forbid I was... I died, he'd become the mayor.
Or if I... If I were out of the country, he was the acting mayor.
I looked up, all I saw was debris.
And I didn't ask Bernie.
Then I said, let's go see Dancy.
We start walking down there.
And we turned the corner so we're facing it directly.
And it was like, I've never seen anything like it.
It was like looking in hell.
It was like looking at something out of Dante's Inferno, kind of reversed, where the fire would be below rather than above.
And I could start making out people on the roof.
And then I don't know the sequence in which this happened.
I think the first thing I did was I saw Father Michael Judge, who was the chief chaplain for the fire department, and my very, very close friend, and maybe I should say spiritual Guidance counselor or spiritual person I went to for support and advice.
The person who taught me how to tell people about death.
When my first firefighters died, three of them died.
It turned out to be three, but it was one.
Then the next day, one, and then finally one.
Three months later, I said to him, I don't know how to You know, I'm a lawyer and a prosecutor.
I know how to put people in prison, but I don't know how to explain death.
He said, well, you come with me, and when you go to their house, the fact that the mayor is coming to their house will be a great honor for them.
It'll make them feel like their son was a very important person, because he was.
There's nothing you can do for them except make them feel that he was a hero, because he was a hero.
And make them feel that the city appreciates the terrible sacrifice he had to make.
And also make them feel that they're going to have support.
That they're not alone.
They're going to have support, including financial support.
Because at least that takes care of one area.
So that was my first of 40 With firefighters, 46 or 47.
Police officers, about the same number.
And, um, in the case of firefighters, Father Judge was always with me.
So I saw Father Judge, and I said, I went over to him.
Where are you now physically?
So now I'm walking, I'm walking, I'm walking along the west side, what would be the west side drive, the westernmost air view.
So I'm walking along the west side drive.
The World Trade Center is over here, and I'm about a block away.
And Pete Gansey is over here.
With his command post set up so that he has a view as best he can of both buildings, because they overlapped each other.
So you couldn't see all of the second building.
It was covered by some of the first.
But from where he was, you could see the largest amount of it selected, I'm sure, for that purpose.
So I'm walking.
I can now see him, but I'm not in Really talking distance of him, or even yelling distance.
See Father Judge, and I ask him, Father, pray for us.
Which I always would ask him, and we had a joke in which he would say, oh, it would be better if you prayed.
It would be more unusual, and God would pay attention to it.
And I said, okay, Father, thanks.
You're off the hook.
He wasn't funny.
I said, Father, pray for us.
He said, I am.
And then he grabbed me, and he says, You know you have it in you for this.
I said, what do you mean?
He said, this is much worse.
This is much worse than anything we faced.
You got it in you.
Don't worry.
I think he knew he was going to die.
I just had a feeling he knew what was going to happen about a half hour later to him and about a half hour later to me.
Almost immediately, I looked up because the police were saying, look up, look up, because debris was falling.
I could see people being hit with things.
And all of a sudden, I just got fixated on a man up about 100 stories.
And I could see a body sort of dangling out of a window.
And all of a sudden, the man fell.
And I just stopped.
Probably shouldn't have stopped.
But it was transfixed.
And I watched it come all the way down.
And it hit the ground.
And I never saw anything like that before in my life.
And almost impossible to calculate what that was all about.
And I grabbed Bernie's arm and Denny.
And I said, I probably repeated a little bit of what Father Judge said.
I said, this is much worse than anything we've ever faced before.
We're going to have to just make it up as we go along.
And stay calm, pretend we're calm, stay calm, and just make the right decision, common sense,
and ask God to help us.
And God will make the decisions right.
This is beyond us.
And they agreed with me.
And the next thing I remember, we got to Pete, and first question I said to him is, can we get helicopters up there?
Because the man had jumped, and at this point now, I had seen other people jumping, and I had seen people hanging out the windows, and I had seen people at the top of the building.
And I thought, simplistically, maybe we could get helicopters up there.
And Pete answered it in a very firefighter kind of way.
He said, boss, boss, my guys can save everybody below the fire.
It was an interesting way of saying, you're naturally stupid.
Look at those fires.
The helicopter's going to blow up.
And how are they going to walk through that?
And when he said it, it had a different effect though.
I mean, the effect it had on me was, everybody I'm looking at above that fire is dead.
He just told me everybody above that fire is dead.
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Lessons from Dan Bongino.
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The first thing I want to do is just give you a little bit of a tour of what we've done.
So, uh, I'm going to start with a little bit of a tour of what we've done.
You The whole time I'm watching Trump I'm thinking to myself
the core question which no one ever asks which is why do they hate him so much
Wait, I'm not done yet!
Honestly, why do they hate Trump so much?
It's the talking!
It's the talking!
It's not because Trump's program is so radical, are you joking?
If this were 1985, he'd be like a center-left liberal.
It's not radical at all!
That's fascism?
Are you joking?
No!
No, it has nothing to do with what he does.
It has everything to do with the fact that, for whatever reason, his brain is not entirely controlled by the people in charge.
And because he's not entirely controlled... Well, first of all, it tells you that everybody else is entirely controlled.
If, like, Trump is the one they hate the most... Like, what did Trump do wrong?
I mean, you could say, oh, well, he's orange or whatever.
Okay, fine.
But like, has he really committed a crime so severe that we should send him to prison for the rest of his life?
That's insane!
And half the Republicans in Washington, probably closer to about 95%, would be very psyched if he went to prison for the rest of his life.
Hey Jeff, doesn't it sound like Tucker is listening to our show?
He's starting to come around.
Seems like.
Haven't we been saying that for about the last four and a half years?
Exactly.
The right people hate him.
Yeah, and not only that, nobody owns him and that's why they have to destroy him.
That's why they hate President Trump.
Well done, Tucker.
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The man who, um, got me my gig in the White House.
Former naval officer.
From a chief strategist to the 45th President of the United States, you may have heard of this podcast thing that he hosts every day.
It's called The War Room!
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Listen to him.
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Nice liner.
Thank you, Alex.
Good choice of music as well.
The greatest rock band known to man.
Queen, We Will Rock You.
Rather apposite for our guest today.
It's a special one-on-one.
I don't get to do this often enough because he's basically running the Shire in MAGA World.
And the weird thing is, is I get on his show every week.
God bless him.
And it's strange.
I mean, I do a lot of media.
I do my show here on Salem.
I do my weekly show on Newsmax.
I do guest spots on Newsmax, on British media, Australian media, you name it.
But I don't know what they put in my Wheaties or my coffee.
When I go on a certain naval officer's show, it's like he presses a button.
Here's what happened last week on The War Room.
The DOJ ordered a county prosecutor To drop the indictments against President Trump?
It's gone, Steve!
America is gone!
The feds don't get to order a county prosecutor to indict President Trump and 18 other people for what?
Read the flipping indictment for Truth Social Post saying, watch OAN now.
For asking people to send emails to their state representatives.
That's now a felony in America?
And the feds tell a county prosecutor to bring those charges?
Steve, I've had it.
They're coming after you.
I don't know.
Are you going to get a prison term?
Who's going to be next if Mark Hauk gets his door busted down because he wants to stop babies being killed?
Who's next, Steve?
How long are we prepared to wait for the GOP to do something?
We have some news today.
Is it a dollar late and a day late?
Let's find out from the man who... something he brings out of me whenever I go in his show.
Officer on deck!
My former boss in the White House, former Chief Strategist to the 45th President of the United States, the host of The War Room, Steve Bannon.
It's good to have you back.
Seb, thanks, and I think we used to pull that out of you in the Oval Office in the West Wing.
You're pretty good when you hit your marks.
No, no, no.
I don't want to make this about me, but I have to recognize, I don't know what it is, whether it's subconsciously who I know is listening across America or the history we have as former White House, you know, political appointees.
But it's weird, and I wanted to recognize it, that I don't get as Angry on any other show as I do on yours.
I don't know if this happens with your other guests.
Before we move on to you and the big topics of the day and the year and the century, do you have a theory why you're like, you know, there's, you know, extra chili powder in my beans when I come on your show?
Because it's like it's a war room.
I mean, we do it in a certain way and we draw it.
I think you've become a mainstay of the Thursday show, the Thursday afternoon show.
People look forward to it and we try to keep you on as we know you're pressed for time and you do a lot, but we get you on there and I've kind of thought through every week the things we want to ask you.
But last week was classic and you just played a short clip.
If people should go back or you guys should put it up.
Your entire two segments were just incredible, and the argument you laid out.
I think you're right.
The types of things we've seen are Republic-ending.
And I keep saying that I don't think we're like at the stage in the Roman Empire in the late 300s.
I think we're closer to really what the late Republic was.
And I think because our founding fathers, as you know, Seb, you and I have talked about a lot, looked at the model of the ancient Roman Republic as their model.
And we're at late-Republic-type activities now.
And to save this republic, which I think is the—really, the calling of our generation, to save this republic and bequeath it as a constitutional republic to our children and grandchildren, is the great duty or the great dharma we have in this generation.
And you're seeing it play out.
And today, Kevin McCarthy, because of the pressure that you've put on in your audience, in the War Room and the War Room Posse and others, Today, he got nervous before Matt Gaetz went out and gave this magnificent speech shortly afternoon on the House floor.
McCarthy ran to the sticks to say, we're going to start at least the initial inquiry, official inquiry, into the impeachment.
Of course, Daily Mail and all the papers of the world, Daily Mail's got, you know, bombshell announcement by McCarthy.
It's a start.
He's trying to put a shiny toy out there to get us off of the woke and weaponized spending and the CR and all that to come.
But I can tell your audience, And you and everybody on the Salem Broadcast Network, get ready.
This is going to be a firestorm, I think, between now and the end of the year and into next year.
I think it started right when we got back.
From the August recess, and I don't see it letting up.
Yeah, yeah.
We're going to talk about what exactly today's decision means, the role of the likes of Matt Gaetz.
But first, you know, you have to do the sit rep.
You have to do the estimate of the situation if you're doing strategy.
And I don't think we talk about this enough because you have a unique role, a unique catchment for your listeners.
I think I'm the most, you know, MAGA guy out there when it comes to broadcast radio, along with Dan Bongino and a few others, Mark Levin and the like.
But the War Room, it has a unique position.
So will you explain how you see your role, and who's listening to the War Room?
I loved, you know, you used to use this phrase of the hobbits in the Shire, and of course when J.R.R.
Tolkien wrote Lord of the Rings, the hobbits were The average man, he based that on the Tommies of World War One, the working class people who went in the trenches and fought for Western civilization.
How do you see the war room's role and how it fits into the broader ecosphere of America First?
If you have the, if the broadest ecosphere is like big army, I think the war room is really A little bit specialized part of the working class and middle class audience.
What we try to do there, the show is not essentially entertainment.
We don't, you know, do a lot of things that other guys do and do it better than we do of stories.
We try to focus on capital markets, economics, geopolitics for the grassroots and for grassroots leaders throughout the country, all 50 states and then overseas.
And so we very much focus on providing information That people, particularly people that don't have advanced degrees, that we would consider being C-suite briefings or board of directors briefings.
You know, my time at Goldman Sachs and other places, I got that was my job is to make sure that you could brief decision makers, whether at the Pentagon or in corporations, so they could have the framework of how to how to actually make decisions.
And that's what we try to do for the war room.
And we try to essentially weaponize the audience.
And I think so far it's working and that the audience responds and And just loves it and wants more.
We always try to raise the bar.
We do a lot of capital markets, a lot of macroeconomics because it's quite important for people to understand how all the pieces of the system work from the geopolitics and take it all the way down to like the impeachment trial of Ken Paxton or the types of things that are happening in Georgia right now.
You're great.
And that's why it was so perfect last week.
You really talking about this local prosecutor that was at basically the beck and call of the Justice Department.
That's kind of perfect war room type material.
So we know it's working.
The audience is growing every day, but more importantly than the audience growing as far as numbers go, we know it has a big impact, whether we're talking about primaries or donations or our focus or force multipliers, which you and I talk about a lot.
of information of people pushing stuff out.
So that's the war room is the is kind of the town crier for the for the hobbits.
And you're absolutely correct.
Tolkien really did that for what the Tommy's were in the trenches.
And that's kind of how I've always looked at my grandfather, my father, my grandfather went to the third grade, my dad, only graduate from high school.
But they were two of the smartest guys well read, they read multiple papers.
Every week and really listen to the radio news and we're up to speed.
So that I always picture those two guys as my audience and deliver the try to deliver the receipts every day.
And what is give us a sense of the temperature or the let's do like, you know, a unit morale analysis.
What is the morale of the Hobbits in the Shire right now that listen to your show given what's happened in the last two and a half years?
It couldn't be higher.
I think they realize that this is a long process.
It's a 30 front war.
We're going to win some, we're going to lose some, but if you don't remember, the fight's over when we say it's over.
And I think now, it's like what they talked about in the revolution, as you remember, the sunshine patriots.
We're looking for winter soldiers.
That's what the war room is.
And we're going to have losses, there's no doubt about that, but this is a process.
And once you understand the process of information war, once you understand the process of what we're up against, People understand we're not going to win everything, but you make progress.
And I think today was a perfect example of how, you know, you win these house seats.
We clearly wanted a lot more.
We didn't get them.
But what we got, you use the leverage of that in the first week of of January with Gates.
And, you know, it came down to the 20 and then to the six.
And you build off that.
One thing we made sure that happened over the August recess was to make sure particularly posse members that are in red districts, MAGA districts that have people that didn't sign up for either the 20 or the 70 that
voted against the the debt deal to make sure you light them up when you see
them in public when you go to town halls you let them know and I gotta tell you
we heard this from the guys around McCarthy they were shocked at how much
people came back and the biggest thing in their mind was not impeachment that
was very big they want that to go forward but this spending and particularly the Woken
weaponized is still in these budgets it's is outrageous it's they weaponized
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Thank you, Alex, my son.
We'll be very grateful that you played us some music from Lord of the Rings.
Perfectly done, perfectly done.
I ran out of time in the first segment.
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I'll tell you a quick story, Steve.
I opened my mail today and this lovely lady from California sent me a heartfelt letter with two photographs of voided checks from the RNC because she had sent two $100 checks to the RNC made out to President Donald Trump.
They returned them to her saying, we can't do that.
And she said, The scumbags!
How can I support the president?
I've had it with the rhinos.
That's some lovely lady in California.
We're going to help you out.
Let's talk about...
Impeachment.
Eight months down the road.
We finally got this decision on an inquiry for impeachment but the key players haven't even been subpoenaed like Hunter Biden himself.
What is your expectation and what is your advice?
My one thing, I posted a little video today, I said one thing.
Do it properly.
Doug Collins did an interview with us last week.
He said do it properly.
Not a circus like Nancy.
Do it properly.
Like a prosecution.
And my request is have some people who know how to think strategically and communicate strategically.
If I see another coma press conference, With these oxygen thieves standing in front of the poster boards that they've, you know, worked on for days.
My head's gonna explode.
Get Byron Donalds.
Get Matt Gaetz.
So, what is your expectation and how should it be done, Steve?
Well, of course, McCarthy's doing it as a shiny toy to get people off of all of his other failures and shortcomings.
I 100% agree with you.
I think now we have a formal platform to adjudicate what is elite capture, and we'll be able to drill down on the Chinese Communist Party's infiltration into the highest levels of the U.S.
government.
Remember, a lot of stuff you're going to see, if done properly, and prosecuted properly is about his time as vice president
of the United States, both the Ukraine situation and the Chinese Communist Party.
I think people will be shocked.
Morning Joe mocked us today. Seb, as you know, Morning Mika said,
oh, the White House is going to send a check over as a donation because they want this to happen.
If this is done properly, it will shock the nation and, quite frankly, shock the folks in
Beijing at the level of detail that people have about the corruption, the bribery, the payoffs
that have gone to the Biden regime and the Biden crime family individually.
So I think that this is done properly.
I agree with you.
This cannot be political.
This has got to be about bribery, which is, as you know, is in the Constitution, about impeaching someone and removing them from office.
I would do everything, Seb, I'm focused on getting 67 votes in the Senate.
I would do it at that level.
You think that's even on the cards?
I think right now, politically, people would say no.
But this is my point.
If you make this case like this case can be made, like I've seen this evidence, you're going to make it an impossible vote to vote no.
Look, you and I talked about when you first came up as my deputy in the White House, we were really going to have a true pivot to Asia.
And you knew at the time, you saw at the time, how infected the entire apparatus we have, it still is today, still infected with this, with the criminal element in Beijing and what they've done to our country, from Wall Street to Silicon Valley to Hollywood, but particularly the imperial capital.
That is what this, this can be a window on that, and this can be historic, and it can be game-changing if it's done properly, if it's done with the proper focus.
People will be stunned by what they see.
Well, there's that video from one of the state-approved professors from China.
Tucker played it, we played it, of the professor saying, everything was great until this guy, Trump, came along because our buddies on Wall Street and DC, they do whatever we want and now we can't get stuff done with Trump in the White House.
That's why we need him back.
But you do concur that They have to take strategic communication seriously.
And there's a couple of guys and gals who can do it.
But what we've seen in the last eight years, it's just pikers.
The last eight months, it's just amateurs.
Isn't it, Steve?
I think it's been very disturbing.
Look, we should have been at this a long time ago.
This should have happened in the first couple of weeks.
There's enough evidence out there.
I do believe that not just on the communication, even on the staffing in the organization.
Look, the Democrats know how to roll.
When they line up and roll on you, they roll hard, okay?
They've got the communications experts, they have the social media experts, they've got all these assistant DAs they hire, they've got a staff up, they've got to do it properly, and they have to be able to communicate it simply to the American people.
They've got to take the complexity out and tell the core of the narrative and let the American people then fill in as other receipts come forward.
So, I think they need a retooling as they do this, particularly they need to reach out to some outside people.
It's not the conservative movement, MAGA, doesn't have experts in communications.
I think since President Trump's, you know, his core virtue is understanding about mass communications, right?
So, the whole MAGA movement is kind of centered on this ability to be able to explain complex topics and hit people in the sternum.
This is what they should do now, but I do believe that the evidence is so overwhelming, so egregious, and has been tamped down by every part of the apparatus not to come forward.
Done properly and apolitically, it will shock the American people and it will shock the criminal element in Beijing about what we know and what we can prove.
You heard it here.
Stephen K. Bannon, former chief strategist of President Trump, saying we could even get a conviction in the Senate.
I have to ask you, given, you know, the mugshot, I think President Trump sold 24,000 t-shirts with a mugshot in the first 24 hours.
Is this the biggest own goal?
I mean, are these people A-strategic and un-strategic simply because of their visceral hatred for this man that they're actually making him, you know, Americans love an outlaw, Steve.
They've made him the ultimate outlaw.
Are these people deranged and A-strategic?
I think they play by a conventional playbook in this area that they think lawfare will break people.
They think it will break Navarro, myself, everybody else they're coming after, Rudy Giuliani.
But particularly I think they underestimate President Trump.
In the moment, Seb, you know with the pressure on you and the whole world's watching, in the moment for him to have his full spirit come out in that, as you call it, booking photo, which I think is the proper way to say it, it is a historic moment.
But I think it captures the inner power of the man, the inner focus of the man.
And I think it sits there and it shows you in photographic evidence what this fight's all about.
You have a leader of a populist nationalist movement against a complete apparatus of high technology, Wall Street oligarchs, Hollywood entertainment people, and of course, the national security and biopharmaceutical apparatus on Capitol Hill, along with a weaponized FBI and Justice Department coming after one guy.
They figured to take him out, they can crush his whole movement, and he's standing in the
breach.
That's why this is historic right now.
And that's why I'm so glad that McCarthy listened to voices of the, what I would say, the harder
right that said, we got to get on with this right now.
Yeah, we have.
Because now we've gone on up.
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the two things I worry about for 2024 personnel will get to that later and the
Fairness of the election If they don't have COVID to mail out 81 million ballots, that helps a lot, but we still have RINO governors, RINO secretaries of state in New Hampshire and elsewhere, even toying with the idea of removing President Trump from the ballot.
We have several states that have not banned the likes of Zuckerbox and those Dropboxes in heavily Democrat districts.
Where do you stand on your confidence that they won't do again in 2024 what they did to us in 2020?
You have to assume they're going to do everything.
They're going to try to do it deeper and more powerful.
Their nightmare is a second Trump term.
Not a Trump's victory, but a second Trump term because they understand We are more prepared.
We'll have a deeper bench.
Policies will be better thought through because we'll have more time.
And we're coming for them.
We're coming to deconstruct the administrative state and to take down the deep state, the rogue element of that, the deep state.
So this is going to be a war, a metaphorical war to the knife.
They will pull any trick, and people are just going to be ready for that.
People are already working on these things, but you just named them right there.
The first battle I think we've got to win, and I think we can win it quickly, is this whole 14th Amendment.
How do we win that quickly?
Explain how we get that off the table, because that's a kill shot.
Here's how you win it quickly.
I think we've got to do shock and awe, and the Republican fat cat donors are in back of it.
Remember, this is all 100% finance.
The left didn't even think of this.
This all came out of the Republican donors looking at another line of defense, another Maginot line, to stop Trump.
The Federalist guys that wrote it were backed by Republican donors.
The big push in these states, whether it's in New Hampshire or others, are really worth Republican donors. I think it needs to be
shotgun on. One of the things we're going through is making sure that Republican, big
Republican donors that we're going to start outing understand that no more free shots on gold. There's
no more free shots on the hop.
There's no more free shots in the shire. If you are going to take the position that you will do
anything to defeat Donald Trump, then you're going to own that.
And by owning it means there's going to be consequences.
There's no more consequence-free ability to take on Trump.
And that's coming from, not from President Trump, that is coming from many like-minded people like myself that are just tired of this.
So that's number one.
But number two, we have to go, you've got to put your shoulder to the wheel.
There's everything we can do is identify this, to expose it, to make sure it's unwound.
And then make sure that we turn it in a massive way and win an overwhelming victory.
Right now, I think you're seeing tectonic plate shifts in ethnicity, in race, in class that are coming to this populist nationalist movement bigger than ever.
And this is, I think it's going to be ours to lose.
We won in 2020.
We won, but we didn't close.
Now we have to win and we have to close the deal just like in 16 sales.
Can you imagine the, you know, libertarian billionaires, the Palo Alto crowd that had Donald Trump's back in 15 and 16, who went never Trump in the last six years.
Could you imagine a scenario where even they come back into MAGA?
I think they come back into MAGA, but the only thing, look, they're all about self-interest.
They only come back in MAGA.
When they see it's in their self-interest to come back.
Right.
When they see that we are, that's what I'm saying, the momentum we have, the ascendancy we have, they're going to want to get involved.
By the way, a lot like 16, because a lot of these same types that abandoned him after the convention, when he was in the situation with the Muslim couple, with the son that had died in combat, that a lot of people had abandoned him in those 30 days.
and had turned against him, we were able to bring all those back because we closed the
gap and we showed that we were not only going to beat Hillary Clinton, but we were going
to beat Hillary Clinton with a very different set of policies.
And so I think that's—and this is why I keep telling President Trump and others around
him it's time now, I think, to lay out a more coherent message about what the second
term is going to be.
He talks about it in the rally speeches.
He puts these videos up, I think, are great.
He puts out true socials, which I think are great.
But I think it's now to get a little more coherent in that, in how this is part of a
whole cloth.
People are doing great jobs on training, whether it's Heritage or RASVOTS groups or others,
On training up the 4,000, as you know, Seb, you were one of them, 4,000.
The 3,000 hit the beach immediately the day after we went in November, and then the 1,000 we got to prep for Senate confirmation.
That's question number one for me.
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You said something that I've been pitching here since the booking photo was released of President Trump.
You talked about the spirit that was communicated I tweeted this out after a friend of mine texted me and said, you know, I've seen that.
I've seen that attitude before.
It's the American Eagle.
I've seen that attitude.
And I tweeted out a photograph of an American Eagle and the president.
And I just wanted to say, there's something about defiance, about retribution, the American spirit that that booking photograph expresses.
And I'd like to take a moment, because you have a unique perspective on the president, I understand.
You know, relations are good with the President and you of late.
Let's talk about your time in the White House and reveal a little bit about who this man was.
I met him first, thanks to you I believe, in 2015 when I was asked to go to Trump Tower to sign an NDA and brief him and prep him for the GOP National Security Debate.
So that's the day I met him.
I wrote him six papers, he used them in the debate, and then You pulled me into the White House.
This is my first day in the White House.
I'm very grateful for you, Steve.
I thought I was going to go to the NSC, but you pulled me over from General Finn's Council to work for you in the Strategic Initiatives Group.
And one of the things that isn't well understood is this image.
This is from your office.
This is, every Monday morning, one of your staffers Would go to the list of everything the president promised on the campaign trail and then cross off or tick that which had already been accomplished.
This, I put this photograph in my book after I left the White House, Why We Fight.
Can you put President Trump in the context of American presidents in terms of what he achieved and how rapidly achieved it despite the onslaught of the deep state?
I'm going to do that.
But Seb, first off, people should understand the first two people I recommended to go up and see the president when he was just a candidate.
This is after the, I think, the Fox debate, where they tried to kneecap him.
And as you know, you were with me at Breitbart.
We came in so hard to defend him.
We'll send up Seb Gorka and General Flynn to briefing on geopolitics, strategy, the types of things he would need in future debates.
And Seb, I knew he would bond with you.
You saw from that photo, you walk up, you've got the, you've got the suit, you've got the power suit, you come across, you have a presence when you walk in the room, Seb, for people that haven't met you.
Very much like President Trump.
I just got to ask you, though, on the previous spot we played, Do I get a, do I get a, we talked to my lawyers, do I get a, do I get a spiff on this, but you're in black shirts and you got the barber on?
You've always been the, you've always been the coat and tie.
I have to tell you, a full disclosure, I was flown, I was flown from the East Coast.
I'm not, I'm not, I'm going to be full disclosure.
I was flown from the East Coast to Seattle to film a 60 second commercial.
Really, Factor R, you know, really?
And I got there and there was a dresser and there were clothes and a wardrobe.
None of that is mine, Steve!
None of that is mine!
Well, I kept it because they let me keep it.
But I guess they were channeling a certain former naval officer.
I don't know.
It worked.
Look, you know, every week we would meet.
Obviously, you were in my office in and out and over at the Oval all the time, but we go through the punch list.
And I think, you know, President Trump in the first term was the first person to really put the people in the room, as I say, not the room, not in the deal in D.C.
And he put the hobbits in and he put them at the head of the table.
Something has dramatically shifted, Seb, in the last couple of years.
Remember that moment?
It was my proudest moment in the White House, when he had all the cabinet in front of him.
It was the decision whether he renews the Iran deal.
He had Tillerson, he had McMaster, and then he called over to you and me and he said, bring me my heavies.
And he actually called us his heavies.
And he said, in front of the whole cabinet, you and I have to explain why the Iran deal is a crock of crap and why we have to pull the plug.
And we did it.
Not just that, Seb.
Think about what's happened with Iran in the last 72 hours, paying $6 billion to the Houthis.
Donald John Trump, as Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States, would pay hundreds of billions of dollars in defense, but not one penny in tribute.
And I think that shows you the type of guys he was and the type of advice that he was getting at the time.
No, I think something's changed, though, Seb.
in the last couple of years is they've come after him now maniacally. I believe just like
General Washington and Abraham Lincoln for the third time in American history, we have the fate
of one man is inextricably linked to the destiny of the country. As this plays out with President
Trump over the next year and a half until we get to the back to the White House, the
The direction and I think future of this republic is virtually is absolutely tied hardwired in to the fate of President Trump.
And I think that's only this is only the third time it's happened in this republic.
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I have a debt of gratitude to you, Steve, because, you know, I was working with General Flynn for months and months in the transition team.
I thought I'd end up as Senior Director for Counterterrorism in the NSC, the National Security Council, because that was my background for about 20 years.
And then literally eight days before the inauguration, you kind of The Bannon hand reached down and you pulled me out of Mike's team and you said, no, you're going to be my deputy in the SIG, which was a genius idea.
The idea that nobody had created a think tank next to the president, the strategic initiatives group is just anathema to acting strategically.
And in that capacity, once I had the clearances and was reading the daily briefs and everything, I realized what I'd spent almost 20 years on.
was not a big deal. You know, the global jihadi threat would be dealt with by this commander-in-chief,
whether it's al-Qaeda, ISIS, Hezbollah, putting them back in their box or destroying them, as you
stated, the target being the physical caliphate of ISIS. As a result, thanks to you, I understood
that the primary and the only really peer-level threat to America is communist China, is Xi Jinping's
China.
Now, we are a continent-sized nation, so it's easy for Americans to kind of dismiss or not think about foreign policy or geopolitics.
Will you explain what I went through?
And in the elevator pitch, the DC elevator pitch, why it's China and how everything else is kind of small fry we can deal with?
It's an ancient civilization that has always been internally an imperial power.
And has always crushed its people.
And now it's run by a criminal cartel in Beijing that has been supported from 1949 with the communists in the State Department and FDR and Truman's administration to actually give them power.
In 1949, we really handed the country over to them.
To 1989, when the Bush junta, the first Bush junta, really with the blood still on the stones in Tiananmen Square in front of the Goddess of Liberty, we supported them again and actually financed them and helped become a world economic power and now a world military power on our technology and our capital and our know-how because the elites were in bed with them and making a ton of money.
It's an existential threat.
That we've never seen before at a scale we've seen at every level.
And the American people are going to get a front row seat to this in this impeachment inquiry.
You're going to understand unrestricted warfare.
You're going to understand political warfare, what they do to spread corruption around, what they do to basically at any level have elite capture.
And the American people are about to get a front row seat on that, Seb.
And what I really admired is, given your professional career and what you had done at the FBI and what you had done at Breitbart and what you had done with your writings and your books—and we're really one of the nation's number one experts on this—not that radical jihad was not an issue.
It's a huge issue.
But at that point in time, we had to face an existential threat to this republic.
And it was really great seeing the way you pivoted and all of a sudden the kind of awakening, and I think that same awakening is about to hit the American people.
The 70% of the people know it, but we need the rest of the country.
And in this impeachment inquiry, you're going to get it, people are going to get it between the eyes.
And I just want to leave, I said, in the Senate, I believe that this is properly done and not politicized.
But if we show the receipts, you will make it impossible to not convict Joe Biden of
bribery and high treason to this nation.
I have to admit, I didn't think what happened could have happened, that we actually turned,
you know, the C-suite in many companies around.
And a lot of people woke up to the threat from China.
And that's thanks to President Trump and to you.
Last question.
The deep state.
I didn't want to use that phrase until I saw it for myself three weeks into the Trump
administration.
I want to move, if we can't get rid of the agencies, I want to move them to Alaska and South Dakota.
What's Steve Bannon's secret weapon against the deep state or the administrative state?
I think we have to go in with the MEAD acts.
I think there's a number of provisions that allow us to start to deconstruct this and deconstruct it immediately.
I think the number one thing we have to do with the FBI and the DOJ and this weaponized legal lawfare system they have is we have to go in and actually clean house.
And we have to use every federal regulation available to do that.
It has to be totally restaffed and then repurposed.
And people should understand.
This is going to be a fight of, this is going to be one of the nation's biggest fights.
They are not just because, just like we won in 16, you remember Seb, just because we're going to win in 24.
Don't think they're going to sit there and pat us on the head on January 20th of 2025 and say, oh, this is terrific.
Seb and Bannon are back with Trump and these others, and now this time they really mean it?
Oh, this is... No.
This is every day against the administrative in the deep state is going to be Stalingrad in the fight for control of this country.
And everyone listening to your show, and the millions listening to this show, they have a role in making that possible, do they not, Steve?
Absolutely.
In fact, you are the force multiplier.
You are big army in this regard, and that means lighting people up every day, getting information out every day, getting people smarter every day, getting up the learning curve every day, so they can't spin you anymore, they can't pat you on the head, and let you just go about your business of paying taxes and sending your sons and daughters to die on foreign battlefields.
You are actually what this is about, and that is the key of the Trump revolution.
He, in Washington D.C., as you know, Seb, if you're not in the room, you're not in the deal.
Donald Trump put the hobbits from the Shire, not simply in the room, he put them at the head of the table.
And that's what this fight's about.
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