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Well, thank you, Dr. G, and welcome to America First.
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We're going to try to talk a little bit about policing with Bernie Carrick.
New York City Police Commissioner about what's going on in Minnesota.
As a former, well, she's probably still a defund and decimate and destroy the police department, wild leftist liberal in Minnesota was a victim of a pretty violent carjacking.
And now suddenly she's like, where are the police when I need them?
And she's thanking them for their response.
I got a lot of thoughts to talk about on that.
But that's not where we're starting.
On today's episode of America First, there is a prominent left-wing mayor of a left-wing city in a left-wing state.
It happens to be our biggest city.
It's our biggest and most iconic city.
It's the mayor of New York City, who has made a speech.
I don't know exactly what the forum was, the setting here.
He was talking about being in front of his commissioners and council members.
It was some sort of a big-time event in New York City.
But Mayor Eric Adams said something that I find quite astounding, and quite frankly, it's gone viral, and it should.
Because Mayor Eric Adams told the truth about something.
And that's what makes it so interesting, because he's a left-wing, you know, big blue city mayor, and he told the truth about illegal immigration.
He told the truth when he said that illegal immigration in America—of course he doesn't use the term illegal immigration, but he's talking about the illegal migrants, as he calls them, that have, you know, flooded New York City and a lot of other big blue cities, but he's only focused on his own.
And what he said was, is that illegal immigration is going to destroy America's largest city.
Literally said it will destroy the city.
There's no answer for it.
There's no way to deal with it.
Despite all of his previous successes, he says, at dealing with problems, there may be no solution to this one.
And then he starts assessing blame.
Now, let's pause, because I want you to hear some of this, but let's pause for a second and focus on the first part.
If a Republican mayor said publicly in a speech that illegal immigration is going to destroy a city, particularly a big city in a red state.
You know, a more conservative-minded city.
What would that Republican mayor be called?
Instantaneously, bigot, racist, don't like black and brown people, probably a xenophobe, Anybody who is opposed to illegal immigration, of course, is all of those things if they're Republican.
Eric Adams is none of those things.
Eric Adams is also not a Republican mayor.
He's a Democrat mayor.
So he's allowed to tell the truth from time to time.
And the truth is that, yes, illegal immigration does destroy cities.
It destroys opportunities.
It destroys American families.
And that doesn't mean that each individual who comes here does something violent.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
The infrastructure necessary to handle a massive influx of people, be they legal or illegal, the infrastructure crumbles and that destroys the city.
And I think it's fascinating watching the left and the right in their reactions to Eric Adams and his declaration.
So again, not knowing the exact setting here, I want to start out here with cut number 13.
This is the mayor of New York City.
We'll work our way through this.
Eric Adams.
We turned this city around in 20 months.
And then what happened?
Started with a madman down in Texas, decided he wanted to bust people up to New York City.
110,000 migrants.
We have to feed, clothes, house, educate the children, wash their laundry sheets, give them everything they need, healthcare, And this team here, we stated, let's do everything possible before we have to push it out into neighborhoods and communities.
Month after month, I stood up and I said, this is going to come to a neighborhood near you.
Well, we're here.
We're here.
We're getting no support on this national crisis.
And we're receiving no support.
And let me tell you something, New Yorkers.
Never in my life have I had a problem that I did not see an ending to.
I don't see an ending to this.
We'll come back to some more of that in a moment, but I want to go back to the beginning of that comment that he made there when he said that, you know, we are a great city, we're a welcoming city and all this stuff.
He said, but then a madman in Texas started sending people up here.
And then he said, right, concurrently, he said, or consecutively, he said, 110,000 people.
What?
Greg Abbott is the governor of the state of Texas.
Greg Abbott has sent busloads of people to New York City, and to Los Angeles, and to Chicago, and to Philadelphia.
The biggest, bluest cities that all proudly wear their virtue signals of, we are sanctuary cities.
We will provide all of those things that he just said.
Education.
We'll provide health care.
We'll provide housing.
We will provide clothing.
We will provide food.
We are the sanctuary cities.
We provide sanctuary to those people that the right, the Republicans, the conservatives, don't want here.
He said Greg Abbott sent 110,000?
No.
Not even close.
An extraordinarily large number of illegal immigrants who come into this country want to migrate to those big cities, and they do that on their own.
Greg Abbott merely sent some busloads up there for one reason and one reason only.
And do you know what that was?
I do.
And the reason is because it's the first time anybody will pay attention to the millions of migrants that are in the country.
If they're just stuck down in Texas, who gives a crap?
We don't care about Texas.
Greg Abbott wanted the media to pay attention.
Greg Abbott wanted Eric Adams to pay attention.
Greg Abbott wanted everybody in the big blue cities to say, this is what we're dealing with down in Texas.
How about you share the bird just a little bit?
That makes him a madman?
No.
We have so much to discuss about what's going on here.
I'm Bob Francin for Dr. G, stay here on America First.
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Alright, Dr. G, thank you and thanks to everyone for tuning in.
We're going to open up the phone lines on this free-for-all.
It's kind of funny, I told you we were doing a free-for-all, but then I didn't give you a phone number.
833-33-GORKA.
You listen to Dr. G every day.
You should know the number by now.
I tell people to store mine in their phones.
Make it easy.
So just one tap to call the show.
But A3333 Gorka, we do want to hear from you, but I want to go back now to the rest of the clip from Eric Adams as he makes a declaration.
He says that 110,000 people have been shipped up to New York City, illegal aliens all, and that he blames the madman down in Texas for starting it.
That's what he calls the governor of Texas, Greg Abbott.
And then let's listen to exactly what he says is going to happen to New York City as a result of this unchecked, rampant, radical, illegal immigration and Joe Biden's open border policies.
Let's continue.
This issue will destroy New York City.
Destroy New York City.
We're getting 10... Did you hear that?
This issue, illegal immigration will destroy New York City.
Now, once again, I am always ready and willing to give credit where credit is due.
Even if a radical leftist says something that's correct, I will tell you he is correct.
This radical blue city mayor said that illegal immigration will destroy his city.
But can you imagine if he was a Republican mayor in a red state?
And he said, illegal immigration will destroy this city.
Again, what would he be called?
He would be called a racist, a bigot, somebody who doesn't want black and brown people coming from around the world to come into his city.
That's what it would be.
So I want to focus on both of those things.
Number one, just the interesting and dripping irony of a blue city mayor who has never before given one thought To the plight of the people of Texas and the other border states when millions of illegal migrants cross that border because of Joe Biden's policies and Kamala Harris's complete and total rejection of her title as borders czar.
All of these people fled into Texas.
Five million border crossings just in Biden's two and a half years alone, my friends.
Five million.
They don't give a rip because it's in Texas.
That doesn't bother us.
They go about their day, living their daily lives in their big blue cities, doing their thing.
They don't care what's happening down there.
They ignore it.
That's why Greg Abbott is not a madman.
Greg Abbott is a genius.
I'm going to make sure you can't ignore it any longer.
I'm going to send some of them up to you.
Then we're going to send some to some of your friends.
All of you who wore your big banners, your big virtue signaling, we are sanctuary cities, let's see you provide sanctuary.
Now he's screaming, it's going to destroy our city.
Well, what the hell do you think it's doing to the cities and the towns in the great state of Texas?
Nobody cared.
Eric Adams never cared about that before in his life.
Suddenly, now he cares because they're going to destroy his city.
His words, it'll destroy his city.
Let's continue.
thousand migrants a month. One time we were just in Venezuela, now we're getting
Ecuador, now we're getting Russian-speaking coming through Mexico, now we're getting
Western Africa, now we're getting people from all over the globe have made their
minds up that they're going to come through the southern part of the border
and come into New York City. There have been recorded illegal crossings of
people from 160 plus countries of the roughly 202 recognized countries around
the globe.
Over 160 have been represented in illegal aliens crossing that border.
He's right about that.
But do you hear what he's saying?
Again, he said they're crossing our southern border coming up through Mexico to come to New York City.
Well, if they are, then wouldn't you think that that might be in your best interest and in your city's best interest to go have a conversation with the President of the United States and the Vice President of the United States and maybe the Secretary of Homeland Security, Alejandro Mayorkas, and say, what the hell is going on here?
Look at all of these people coming up to New York City.
Never once does he consider that.
He just goes and yells at Greg Abbott for not keeping them in Texas!
What are you doing letting them come up here?
What are you doing helping them come up here?
Yes, they're coming from Ecuador, Venezuela, Western Africa, Russia.
They're coming from China.
He didn't mention China, did he?
Yes, they're coming from all over the globe.
And you didn't care one rip about it when they were all staying in Texas or in the other border states.
Now that every state has become a border state because of your boss's policies, now you're going to complain that New York City is going to be destroyed?
Continue.
Everyone is saying it's New York City's problem.
Every community in this city is going to be impacted.
We had a $12 billion deficit that we're going to have to cut.
Every service in this city is going to be impacted.
We're going to have a $12 billion deficit because we have to house, feed, educate, clothe, and care for all of these thousands and thousands of people.
Again, the chutzpah of, why should we have to pay any of that?
Let them pay for it down in Texas.
Let the Texas budget get overblown.
Let the Texas resources get all soaked up.
Let the Texas schools deal with people coming from 160 countries and putting their kids in schools and trying to tell teachers, now teach all of these different languages.
Let Texas deal with it.
Why should we have to deal with it?
The gall, the temerity of this guy to complain that we're starting to get a little bit of a taste of what we wanted to keep down there.
It's just, it's incredible.
Let's continue.
All of us.
And so I say to you, as I turn it over to you, This is some of the most educated, some of the most knowledgeable, probably more of my commissioners and deputy commissioners and chiefs live in this community.
So as you ask me a question about migrants, tell me what role you played.
How many of you organized to stop what they're doing to us?
How many of you were part of the movement to say, we're seeing what this mayor is trying to do and they're destroying New York City?
It's going to come to your neighborhoods.
All of us are going to be impacted by this.
And that's enough.
You heard what he said.
He challenged his commissioners and chiefs and other deputies and so on and so forth.
He said, what role have you played in stopping this from happening?
What role have you played?
And then he said, it's going to come to all of our neighborhoods again.
He's right.
But what if he was in the other party?
What if he was a Republican and he said, they're coming to your neighborhood?
Tell me they wouldn't be screaming on MSNBC and CNN that this red city, red state mayor is using a dog whistle to scream about how we don't want blacks and browns to come to all of our neighborhoods and they're coming to get us.
And how come we haven't done anything to stop them?
That's the bloody irony of this.
He's right to say all of these things, but he is pointing his finger in the wrong direction.
Turn and point that in Washington, D.C.' 's direction.
Point it at Kamala Harris.
Point it at Joe Biden.
Point it at them for rolling out the red carpet and allowing this unchecked illegal immigration.
Tell them to take that steal that he is selling off for pennies on the dollar?
And stand it upright and finish the damn wall, Eric Adams.
We've got more on this and a whole lot more.
And your call's coming up.
I'm Bob Francin for Dr. G.
Thank you for watching.
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Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
Thirty-three minutes past the hour.
Thanks, Dr. G. So when President Trump was establishing the border policy in the United States and trying to stop the extraordinarily unregulated flow of illegal immigrants into the United States, that had been going on during the Obama years.
He established a relationship with the Mexican government and put in place an agreement that when individuals were coming into Mexico from other countries, we're not talking about Mexican migrants now, but when illegal immigrants had come into Mexico with the intent of using it as a land bridge to cross into the United States, claiming they were seeking asylum from whatever sort of oppression or whatever sort of persecution they were facing in their home countries.
That, and of course we have a massive, years-long backlog in getting asylum claims heard by U.S.
immigration courts.
President Trump established a policy that said, remain in Mexico.
If you already escaped the country that was persecuting you, in whatever way that it was, you should be fine in Mexico because they're not persecuting you.
You should be fine.
You have found your refuge.
Until you have your asylum claim to come into the United States heard, remain in Mexico.
Right?
It was a reasonable policy, and guess what?
It cut down on a massive, massive number of illegal border crossings.
Well now, let's look at the difference between that administration and this one.
In the current administration, We have something that Biden is now considering called the Remain in Texas policy.
Wait, what?
Yes, it's every bit as bizarre and as impossible and unimaginable as it sounds.
Texas is a red state, so the hell with them.
The hell with those people.
Let them deal with all of the costs, and the crime, and the drugs, and everything else that comes that Eric Adams was talking about with unchecked illegal immigration.
Let them do that in Mexico, or in Texas.
Make them stay in Texas.
This story is from this afternoon on Hot Air.
One way to ensure that blue states and cities like New York's don't have to provide the promised sanctuary to illegal immigrants, force them to remain in Texas.
It's both brilliant politically and proof positive that the flood of illegal immigration that Biden has invited is largely intended to punish red states.
And then to hopefully change their demographics.
The Biden administration, according to the report, is considering forcing migrant families who enter the country without authorization to remain near the border in Texas while awaiting their asylum screening, effectively limiting their ability to travel within the United States.
States, according to three U.S.
officials talking to the L.A.
Times.
Administration officials have been considering the idea as a way to stem recent increases in the numbers of migrant families crossing the southern border, which reportedly reached an all-time high last month.
Supporters of the Remain in Texas policy, which is yet to be finalized, hope that it
would help the administration advance its goal of quickly deporting families who fail
initial asylum screenings and deterring other families from crossing in the first place.
The ostensible reason for the policy is to facilitate the return of refugees should their
asylum claims be rejected.
But that assumes they will get a hearing promptly, and we know the backlog, which is years long,
make this unlikely, if not impossible.
Thus, the effect is piling up millions of refugees in Texas and keeping them free of
the sanctuary cities that are not on the border.
So they can just sit there and claim, oh, we're the welcoming city.
I'm going to share one more thing before I go to calls.
Bernie Marino is a U.S.
Senate candidate here in my home state of Ohio.
He wants to boot Sherrod Brown out of Washington, D.C.
So do I. Bernie's got family in New York City.
He was in New York City last week and he learned some information while he was there about the historic Roosevelt Hotel in New York City that has been converted from a luxury hotel 1,025 rooms of luxury.
It has been converted from a hotel to housing for 1,025 illegal immigrant families.
You know what the cost of that is per month?
Six thousand dollars per family per month.
That's just for the hotel.
That's before you count food, health care, clothing, and any other needs that are being met by the taxpayers of New York City and by extension of the United States of America.
And guess what?
That adds up in case you're Calculating it at home.
That adds up to about $75 million per year just to house the illegal aliens in one hotel in New York City.
And the best part of it that Bernie found out is, you know who owns the hotel?
The Pakistani government.
Our tax dollars are going to the hotel and thus to the country that housed Osama bin Laden for a decade.
I'll be right back.
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Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
Yeah, that's a good idea, Dr. G. That's a lot of information on the extraordinary steps being taken by the Biden administration to essentially overrun this country with illegal immigrants, trying to change the demographics, the political demographics of red states and keeping them out of blue states.
I never thought I would have ever imagined something as radical as remain in Texas.
You crossed over into Texas, you stay in Texas.
Rather than Trump's policy of, you stay in Mexico, you soak up their resources while you wait for an asylum hearing in the United States.
It's unbelievable.
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We're going to go to Columbus, Ohio.
George, welcome to America First.
Bob Franson for Dr. G. Go right ahead.
Hi, Bob.
I'm a former New York liberal, so I kind of know how these people think.
I have a question.
So, didn't all these sanctuary cities receive tens of millions of dollars to become sanctuary cities when they were awarded that?
What happened to all that money?
I don't know how much money they actually got from the federal government to be sanctuary cities.
Most of them just designated themselves as sanctuary cities for the purposes of, hey, if ICE comes looking for you here, we won't turn you in.
We won't have our police help ICE and federal agents try to catch you and turn you around.
I don't know how much money they actually got for being sanctuary cities.
As a matter of fact, if you're listening right now to Eric Adams crying the blues, that's one of his things he said, you know, we're spending, we have to cut our services to our actual residents and citizens here in New York because we have to pay some, you know, we have a twelve billion, or twelve, what did he say, twelve billion dollar budget deficit in order to pay for all of these things.
Now, I firmly believe, and you probably do too, you know that's not going to go, you know, What's not unrewarded?
What's the word I'm looking for?
They're going to get that money back.
The federal government, Biden, is not going to let New York City sit here and pay for all of that.
It's going to come out of my pocket and yours.
Anybody who's paying taxes on the federal level, yes, that money is going to eventually get to New York City.
But I don't know that they necessarily had millions or billions of dollars given to them when they made their declarations.
On that note though, don't you think that he could be possibly inciting some type of violence the way he's creating some type of anxiety?
It's coming to your neighborhood.
We're going to pay for it.
You guys are going to lose services.
Well, again, if he was a red state mayor, yes, that's what they would call that.
He's inciting violence.
It's a dog whistle to try to turn the people of that community against the migrants that are there.
I mean, he even challenged his supporters there.
He said, what have you done?
What role have you played in stopping them from doing this?
So yeah, if he was a red state Yeah.
I would say they would absolutely call that inciting violence.
But because he's not, he's just expressing concern over the ability to provide for all
of these people at the same time as providing for his citizens.
But you're right.
That is kind of the tone that he took.
Yeah.
All right.
Hey, George, I appreciate the call.
Thanks much.
Let's go to Phoenix, Arizona.
Glenn, you are on America First with Dr. G. Go right ahead.
Yeah.
So you just commented to him that dovetails into what I want to talk about.
Do you remember just telling that caller right there that when these Democrat cities became sanctuary cities, that it allowed for the law enforcement, the local police, and the local sheriffs there within those states Correct me if I'm wrong, that in the event that ICE came, these officers no longer had to comply with the orders.
Do you remember that?
Correct.
So one of the things I made to the call screener, and I haven't heard anybody bring this up to me, Mark Morgan comes on Newsmax every night and talks about how morale is so bad at the Border Patrol with all of these agents and stuff.
My grandma taught me from a little kid that actions speak louder than words, and I teach that to my son.
That when people tell you something but it doesn't align with their actions, they probably don't believe what they're telling you.
So my question is for the Border Patrol agents and Mark Morgan, is if all of that is true, why haven't we seen thousands and thousands of Border Patrol agents resign?
It seems like, this is what I'm going to dovetail with the last caller, that just like the police and the sheriffs in these local cities and the sanctuary cities that are willing to carry out any order, It almost seems like the Border Patrol agents, they'll sit there and complain, but they won't do anything, and they'll just keep following the orders that they're given, just like the DOJ, just like the Highway Patrol.
There seems to be a sheep-like tendency with law enforcement to just follow any orders, sir.
Can you help me with this?
I don't think I don't see it that way at all.
As a matter of fact, I know that a lot of the law enforcement agents in, you know, in various cities around the country that have declared themselves a sanctuary despise the fact that they're not allowed to cooperate with federal authorities, ICE agents and others looking forward looking to to try to especially to bring in and to deport violent criminals who are hiding amongst masses of illegal immigrant crowds in some of these big cities.
These cops don't like the fact that they're not allowed to do anything.
These cops know that if they do, and try to coordinate, they're the ones that are going to be reprimanded, if not suspended, if not lose their jobs.
So I think law enforcement hands are tied, largely, in all of these big sanctuary cities.
As for Border Patrol, I've talked to Mark Morgan on a number of occasions, as well as others who are close to the situation down at the border.
I feel for them as well.
They want very desperately to do their jobs.
They want to be able to capture and detain and hold these people and then return them and so on and so forth.
But again, they're not allowed.
So my question for you is, what would you have them do?
Would you have the rank-and-file border patrol, rank-and-file police officers, sheriff's deputies, just basically ignore the commands from their higher-ups and do what they want to do anyway?
Because if you do that, I think you've got chaos.
It looks like that caller's gone.
Okay.
Do you understand my point?
I've had a conversation similar to this with people on my local show in Cleveland, Ohio.
There are some things that cops want to be able to do, but they cannot do.
And it's kind of militaristic.
What I mean by that is it's not dissimilar from the military.
Lower-ranking or rank-and-file member of a platoon, for example, cannot defy or refuse the orders of a superior officer, whether it be their sergeant, a platoon leader, a captain, or a colonel.
Whatever they're told to do, they've got to do.
And they can't go and just freelance and say, no, I really don't think that's worth doing.
I think that's a bad strategy.
They have to do what they're told.
And I think that's the same thing in the police work, in the police field.
And I know a little bit about it.
I talk to enough cops.
I think the same thing is true of the Border Patrol.
I know, in fact.
Mark Morgan has talked to me about this, too.
You know, I've done interviews with a lot of the highest-ranking individuals in Homeland Security, in Border Patrol.
And when I go down to Washington, D.C., for the Hold Your Feet to the Fire event with FAIR, And I talk to these folks, and these agents are frustrated.
Many of them are quitting, and they're going into other fields because they are just out there chasing shadows, because they're not allowed to actually do anything, or they're chasing their own tails.
And then, when they actually have to do something to stop somebody, then they're accused of whipping and abusing and oppressing the migrants.
It's a thankless job.
I'm Bob Francin for Dr. G right back.
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All right, Dr. G, thank you.
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Let's go to Oakland, California.
On line four, Alan is waiting on America First.
Alan, welcome to the show.
Go ahead, sir.
Well, thank you, Bob.
I called because I speak Democrat and I can translate, but it took you only about 10 seconds to do the same thing for me.
So thank you.
Look, when a Democrat is only speaking to Democrat voters, they're not speaking to anybody else.
Eric Adams is just a handler.
And the voters are just a cult.
And of course what he's saying is that all these people belong in red states.
But if you do the math, and you count 10 million people coming in, then the proportion that New York is getting is no different than the proportion that every other state is getting, every other city, every other village.
And he's just crying.
Well he is, yeah, and that's very true.
The more astounding thing to me than Adam's crying about it, and I thank you for the call.
I appreciate that.
Is Joe Biden essentially considering, according to the report that I shared with you, an actual official restriction of the travel of illegal aliens once they're here, declaring their desire for asylum?
He's saying, we're going to limit you.
We're not going to let you travel to another part of the country on your own.
We're going to restrict you.
You have to remain in Texas.
It's as if the taxpayers of Texas don't count to these radical leftists.
They don't count, because there's nothing but rednecks down there, rednecks and rodeo clowns, and all they do is they hate black and brown people and blah blah blah.
Just let all of the border crossers stay there.
Let them deal with it.
Because, quite frankly, that pretty much was the policy up until very, very recently.
Very recently, only very recently did it change because nobody in New York or Chicago or L.A.
or Seattle, none of these sanctuary cities, none of them give a rip of how many people were just, you know, packing themselves into all of Texas' towns and cities.
They didn't care!
Because no TV cameras were down there.
Well, guess what?
Now the TV cameras are at O'Hare in Chicago, and they see a thousand different homeless migrants now being housed at O'Hare.
They've got a big black curtain up to kind of keep them away from the traveling public.
But now they can see that it's there.
It's happening in Chicago, and Karen Bass says, well, we didn't invite these people.
We're a sanctuary city, but these people are uninvited.
Greg Abbott is doing a political stunt.
Well, that's why he's doing the political stunt, to bring the cameras there to show that this is a problem.
And now it's a problem not just for the red states, for the border states, but now it's a you problem as well.
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Thank you for joining us on America First with today's very special guest host, Cleveland's own Bob France.
Well thank you Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
We are indeed live on a Friday afternoon here in the Eastern Time Zone.
It's five minutes after four o'clock out there in the Pacific.
It's early afternoon.
Thanks for being with us.
Hope you got a great weekend in store.
Since we're just starting hour number two now, what's a traditional way to start an event?
In America, particularly American sporting events, don't we almost always start with the National Anthem?
So, what do you say we start by listening to our National Anthem?
The question is, though, which one do we do first?
Right?
Because you do know that we have two National Anthems, don't you?
There's the Black National Anthem, and then there's the Everybody Else National Anthem.
That's... that's... what?
Hold on.
I'm being told that's not accurate?
Well then what happened last night at the launch of the National Football League season?
I could have sworn last night at the start of the NFL season, and I didn't watch it, because I've tried very, very hard to wean myself off of woke professional football.
Because of what they did going back about three years ago and what they've continued to do in advancing wokeness ever since.
But I was told that we have two national anthems now.
The Black National Anthem and then the Everybody Else National Anthem.
And the NFL launched their season last night.
Let's check out cut number 14.
14.
What?
What was that?
Let me hear just a little bit more of that.
I'm waiting for the boys to kick in.
No?
No, that is most definitely not the Star Spangled Banner by Francis Scott Key.
No?
I want to know why it is that almost at every turn in this country, organizations from the governmental to the corporate level are hell-bent on dividing us.
I want to know why it is that a country that worked so hard to unite itself To erase, you know, things that split us.
Segregation, obviously, pre-civil rights era, not giving equal opportunity to people based on what they look like or based on what sex they were and so forth.
All these things happened and I know we worked very, very hard to get rid of all of those things.
And just as it's all coming together, there is this massive left-wing push to divide us right down the middle.
How else to explain that blacks are not Americans?
That's what I heard from the National Football League last night.
And any time and every time that they want to play a black national anthem, they're indicating that black Americans don't believe in the original national anthem.
That they're not part of that nation and therefore are not recognized by that anthem.
Is there another way to see this that I'm misunderstanding?
If there is, by all means, dial 833-33-GORKA.
But to me, it sounds exactly like what Ibram X. Kendi and all of the other anti-racist pushers are doing.
We have to recognize color in everything.
Not necessarily the national colors that fly when we sing the National Anthem.
Not necessarily the red, white, and blue, but the black and the white.
Or the black and the brown and the white.
Everything has to be color first.
Unity out the window.
Somebody explain how the American National Anthem can stand for everybody but black people.
Black people get their own.
Now, if you argue, well, you know, black people feel like they're different, and they want to be recognized for their own special, you know, nature, and their special qualifications, and their special place in American society, okay, God bless them!
Love y'all!
But at what point do we then say, here comes The Hispanic National Anthem, because they are also special in their way, and their own special qualifications, their own special culture, their own special, you know, whatever makes them unique and special.
At what point do we start saying, here's an anthem for every single ethnicity and race that's represented in what was supposed to be a glorious melting pot?
In which all of our ethnicities took backup roles, took secondary spaces behind the national culture that binds us all.
See, people came here from what we like to call the old country in Europe for decades and decades and decades because they wanted something better than the old country.
They came here from Asia because they want something better than their countries.
They came here from South America, from Central America, from Latin America.
They come here, and yes, also from Africa, because they want to be a part of something better than where they left.
And that's why, through the last 250 years of this American experiment, we brought them all together and we said, we're going to put all of those things that make us unique and special Off to the side while we celebrate what makes us the same, and that is freedom and liberty and the glory of the United States of America.
And yet here we are in 2023, the National Football League, with a massive, one would presume, television audience, starts the year with, there's blacks and then there's everybody else.
There's the black anthem.
Now here's everybody else's anthem.
Somebody make that make sense to me.
How does that make us a better nation?
How does it make us a stronger nation?
How does that make black people and white people and Latino people and Asian people and European people and Canadian people and whatever other different place people have come from around the world to be here to be American or to live as Americans?
How does that make them more successful?
How does it make things better for them to divide us like this?
It's a rhetorical question, because the answer is, of course, it does not make us better.
It divides us in order to split us apart in true Marxist fashion, to try to destroy that which makes us special, to destroy the uniqueness of the American nuclear family and the celebration and the unity with others to create the culture that we have.
Yes, we're proud of our individual ethnicities and cultures, but we need to break apart from that if we're truly going to be able to deconstruct this capitalist, constitutional republic in which we live.
To deconstruct it and to advance a Marxist society filled with the powerful, continuing to oppress and hammer down the weak, pathetic proles that we all are.
This is Marxism in practice, and yes, the National Football League is a part of that.
Just like I said at the beginning of the monologue.
Governmental and corporate leadership and interests are doing everything they can to divide people within their own families, to break up the nuclear family, divide people at the community level, divide people ideologically, and make sure everyone is battling with everyone else.
Therefore, they're easily controlled by the powerful elites.
Okay, we're gonna go to We're going to go to Philadelphia.
Stephen in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on America First with Dr. G. Bob Frantz sitting in.
Fire away, Stephen.
Bob, how are you?
I'm doing well, sir.
It's just, it's scorched earth destruction.
And it all started with Obama.
He, of course, is still running the show.
You know, Biden is just this demented old figurehead.
But you see it.
The destruction is telltale Obama.
The guy hates this country.
Despises it.
So he's looking to tear it.
You know, it goes back to the transgenders in the bathroom.
Obama is just saying, look, I'm going to make it his base.
I don't care what you find appealing about this country.
football some of our great city once great city new york san francisco
obama said i hate it all i hate every bit of it
and i'm going to destroy it so you see them destroying
our cities beautiful cities like san francisco in new york uh... you know
just under assault you see and and blinton obama doesn't particularly care
or none of them do for black americans Let's not pretend that the black Americans are simply useful pawns.
Because if they did care for them, they wouldn't subject them to the public school systems that they put them through.
In Philadelphia here, As usual, the public schools, the pain is chipping.
There's no toilet paper on the toilet rolls.
Light bulbs are burned out.
The money doesn't go to the brick and mortar, the buildings to teach the kids.
The money all goes to the administrative level, which is what the left is.
And to the teachers' unions.
While you're on that point, and to the teachers' unions, let me jump in here, Stephen.
I appreciate the call, but I've got to get a break here.
But I want to say this.
You're right about Obama.
This falls under the category of when someone tells you what they are, believe them.
And Barack Obama came into office in 2008 telling you he wanted to fundamentally change America.
Fundamental transformation.
That's the only thing you do to something that you despise.
You change it if you hate it.
If you loved it, you would like to glorify it and keep it as it is and keep it growing.
I'll be right back.
Thank you.
I I'm Seb Gawker.
Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
All right, Dr. G, thank you.
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Second Amendment Friday.
Love it.
Love what Dr. G asked me to sit in on Second Amendment Friday.
We're going to talk to Chris Dorr in about 25 minutes or so about all of the Second Amendment news of the day.
But right now we're going to go to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania at 833-33-GORKA.
Charlotte is hanging out there.
Charlotte, welcome to America First.
Bob France sitting in.
Go right ahead.
Thank you very much for taking my call.
I want to just say a couple days back, Eric Adams, Ask his constituency to call him and tell him what they thought, how good a job he was doing.
So I guess he's got an earful this week because he's completely turned around.
He put his finger up in the air and he got a load of how the wind's blowing.
You know, the city's getting destroyed.
And I listen to some late night New York stations, and that's what the people call up about.
They're very upset.
They sit at these places where the immigrants are being bussed to, and they block it.
They have grannies sitting on lawn chairs in the middle of the night so they don't unload
the buses.
And I want to say, the sanctuary city thing is a declaration.
It's not codified.
It's not a law.
It's nothing legal.
It's just something they declare.
What the city of New York is operating under is a court decree that was under Bill de Blasio
and that that was for the New York residents who were homeless, so they didn't sleep on
the benches or the street, especially in the winter.
And that New York agreed to provide them a bed, shelter, for a night's sleep.
Now, what happened was New Jersey homeless place was too violent, so they came to New York City, and so you had New Jersey people homeless there and everything, and now the left just uh... you know changes the meaning of everything
and now they're howling
the uh...
alien squatters i'd like to call them because they pay for nothing
so they're being put up you know with the three square that's a fair
characterization it is yeah yet and uh... and
at the pay for everything and that court decree
what speak for new york city and no federal taxpayer
should have to pay one red for their situation
for their voluntary declaration of a sanctuary city court decree
they entered that court decree themselves And they can undo it if they want, and that's their problem.
Well, none of them have the guts to do that.
Charlotte, it's a great phone call.
Thank you for calling.
None of them will ever have the guts to declare themselves not sanctuary cities, to strip themselves of that designation.
You're right.
This is a decision they make on their own.
And I remember, we just had a caller from Philadelphia on the other side of the state there in Pennsylvania, and I wanted to ask him about Jim Kenney.
Do you remember that clownish, cringeworthy, embarrassing little dance that Jim Kenney did when he walked out of the city council meeting after they all agreed and had their little vote to declare Philadelphia a sanctuary city?
He did his little dance and his little two-step.
He came out of that room and he's standing there in the hallway in front of the camera going, we did it!
We're in Sanctuary City!
And that little sing-songy voice that just makes you want to drive your fist through a wall next to him.
I would never advance violence on anyone.
But do you remember that?
You know, it's like, oh, we get to be in Sanctuary City.
Aren't we special?
Okay, now it's time to start putting up.
Start walking the walk, not just talking the talk.
Start housing these people, clothing these people, educating these people, providing health care for these people.
Take care of them, feed them, do all of the things that a sanctuary city that you're so excited about entails, and then let's see exactly if you still feel the same way.
Now, if one of them said, oh my gosh, we can't afford to be a sanctuary city, Eric Adams, we got $12 million in budget deficit or whatever the heck he said, and that we can't afford to do it, well that would be turning their backs on the needy.
That would be like saying, oh, you don't believe these people deserve health and deserve housing and spaces and so on and so forth.
Suddenly you want to move them along.
They'll never do that.
Virtue signaling has been done.
When the signals have been sent, you can't unring that bell.
You can no longer say, well, we're not a sanctuary.
That's what Karen Bass in L.A.
tried to do.
We had that story last week.
I'm sure you talked about it here, too.
Karen Bassett, Los Angeles, the mayor of LA, complaining and saying, we're thinking about suing Governor Greg Abbott of Texas for continuing to send buses to Los Angeles.
And she said, we are a sanctuary city.
But, and there should be no but, that's the end of the sentence.
If you are, then shut up and provide sanctuary.
If you're not, then, you know, disassociate yourself from it.
Declare that you are no longer.
But she wouldn't.
She said, we're Sanctuary City, but we didn't invite all of these people.
They're being sent here as a political stunt.
To which I say, yes!
Good!
Two reasons, actually.
One is the political stunt, because it gets attention, and the media is paying attention now that LA is being overrun instead of just every city and town in Texas.
And number two, it does ease the burden a little bit, busload by busload, on the communities and the taxpayers in Texas.
So yeah, you're spot on about what they do, and they asked for it, and they brought it on themselves, and now Eric Adams is reaping what he has sown.
We're going to go to L.A.
now.
Brent in Los Angeles.
Brent, your mayor doesn't want all of these uninvited people coming, but yet you're still a sanctuary city.
What say you?
I say she's a liar.
And hello, Bob, and great speaking with you again.
Certainly.
And I fear you're misunderstanding the murderous message that the mayor of New York, Eric Adams, just delivered to his Maoist cadres in the Democrat Party.
Eric Adams, like the devil, speaks truth with a twist.
And when Adams said Biden's barbaric border policy will destroy New York City, he was in no way urging Biden to halt the horror of the battalions of military-age men from 150 nations being greenlit.
Adams was blowing loudly his Democrat dog whistle to double down and triple down and to keep deploying and attacking until his city, his state, and our nation are left in complete rubble.
So you're saying that by saying illegal immigration is going to destroy New York City, he was encouraging more to come and finish the job?
Yes.
That's how Marxists and Communists and Maoists talk.
They're always lying, and they're always giving a message to their own.
This isn't for our consumption, and we should never for once think that these are goodwill people, people who have any concern or interest in their people whatsoever.
Well, you're right about that.
They don't.
And I'm glad you kind of phrased it the way that you did there.
And thank you for the call, Brent.
The previous caller brought up Barack Obama still driving all of this.
And I concur.
Because Joe Biden is Both inept and unable.
The disability is because of his age and his cognitive decline.
The ineptitude is because he's just dumb.
He's not a smart man.
He cannot run something this vast himself.
At the very core of the deep state you do find Barack Obama and some of the other globalists with whom he associates.
And what he said about Obama is very similar to what you just said right now.
Declared war on America the moment he took over.
When he said, I'm going to fundamentally transform America, that is something you do only to things you do not like.
You change things you don't like.
You don't like the job you're in, you change jobs.
You don't like your car, you change cars.
You don't like your relationship, you change your relationship.
You fundamentally change things you don't like.
You keep things that you do like.
And so, yes, there is an attempt to destroy and tear down this nation, step-by-step, city-by-city, state-by-state, and Eric Adams perhaps is playing his role in all of that.
Bob Francin for Dr. G. We'll be back.
Thank you very much.
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Yeah, we've got, you know, it's Second Amendment Friday, and we're going to be talking to Chris Doerr, the Executive Director of the Ohio I'm sorry, Ohio Firearms Group.
We're going to talk to him in a few, but I want to hit this story real quick in advance
of that conversation.
Ohio gun owners.
I'm sorry, I said it wrong.
Ohio gun owners.
My apologies.
Did you see the story out of Minnesota?
A Democrat Party leader in Minnesota, who back in 2020 was among the loudest and most
shrill voices to defund and dismantle and disband and abolish police.
Back in 2020, shortly after George Floyd died, she was one of those who said the police have
to go.
She said during that time.
I want to quote her here.
We are going to dismantle the Minneapolis Police Department.
Say it with me.
Dismantle.
The.
Minneapolis.
Police.
Department.
She said each of those with periods in between.
To emphasize.
She wrote, as allies, what can we do right now?
Listen and learn from our black siblings.
And then amplify this message right now.
In this moment.
MPD has systematically failed the black community, she wrote.
They have failed all of us.
It's time to build a new infrastructure that works for all communities, and if you are still disagreeing with that basic fact, I'm not sure what to say to you.
She went on to write that police officers in Minnesota should be nowhere near children.
Quote, thank you Minneapolis school board members for getting this done exactly as it should be.
MPD should have no place in our children's schools.
This is when they took all of the school resource officers out of the public schools.
You know, to leave the kids as sitting ducks there for any number of threats.
So this woman, Shivanti Sathanandhan.
S-A-T-H-A-N-A-N-D-A-N.
Sathan Andan.
Shivanti Sathan Andan, the second vice chairwoman for the Minnesota Democratic Farmer Labor Party.
If that doesn't sound too socialist to you, okay.
She posted on Facebook on Wednesday, so two days ago, she was violently carjacked by, quote, four very young men, all carrying guns, end quote.
She said they assaulted her in front of her children outside their home in broad daylight.
She posted a picture of herself bleeding from the head.
She said she had several injuries, including a broken leg, this despite the fact that she apparently did not go to the hospital.
So make of that what you will.
But she reportedly had a broken leg, deep lacerations on her head, as well as bruising and cuts.
And she was feeling RAGE against the lack of accountability against criminals.
Let me give you the quote from Wednesday.
These men knew what they were doing.
I have no doubt they have done this before, yet they are still on our streets, killing mothers, giving babies psychological trauma that a lifetime of therapy cannot erase, with no hesitation and no remorse.
I am now part of the statistics.
I wasn't silent when I fought these men to save my life and my babies, and I won't be silent now.
We need to get illegal guns off the streets.
Catch these young people who are running wild creating chaos across our city and hold them in custody and prosecute them, period.
Wow!
So the woman who didn't want police to exist because we are going to dismantle the police, period, now is saying we have to Get these young people, catch these young people who are running wild, and prosecute them.
So I ask myself this, and I'll ask you.
And I'll ask Shivanti.
Who is supposed to catch these young people?
You said we shouldn't have any police.
Are you going to send social workers?
Are you going to send psychologists and counselors?
Are they going to go out and catch these people?
And what happens if these people have guns?
You had to make a point of getting in the crack on the Second Amendment there to get the guns off of the streets.
But who exactly do you expect to go and do this?
You wanted to dismantle the police.
Period.
I take a certain degree of schadenfreude, which is the German word describing taking pleasure in the pain of others.
I really don't take pleasure in somebody's pain, but I'll tell you what, it does put
a little bit of a smirk on my face to know that somebody who hates cops now is saying
we need cops.
We'll be back.
I'm going to be back.
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I'm out of here.
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Chris Doerr is the Executive Director of Ohio Gun Owners.
Chris joins us on Second Amendment Friday.
How are you doing?
Good, sir.
I'm doing very well, Bob.
I'm very happy to be here.
Well, it's good to have you.
We like talking to patriots who truly believe in the right to stand up.
You know, it's funny.
I just shared some of that copy from Carr, and I just love it because everything that it says, we actually have to be on guard for now.
And that line about tyranny, the right to stand up and protect ourselves against tyranny, we always think that it's about bad guys.
And sure, it is.
Personal and family, self-protection, and those kinds of things.
The real reason it was written into the Constitution, for crying out loud, is to fight back against tyranny, including tyranny that might come from your own government.
And that's not to say we want to raise guns and raise arms against anybody in our government, but we have to have that ability to in the event that it is necessary, don't we?
You bet.
It's a giant insurance policy.
You know, we always tell people that gun control has one purpose.
It's to disarm tyranny's political opponents.
Well, the Second Amendment has one purpose, or whatever state you're listening to might have a state constitutional right for this.
It has one purpose, too, and it's to make sure that government never goes full-blown Chairman Mao on Americans.
That's the difference between America.
That's the difference in every other country that you can really think of.
You know, for years, I'd say the gun control proponents have always held up Australia as a shining beacon of total tyranny and how everybody can just live wonderfully.
And our response has always been, yeah, whatever.
The government of Australia hasn't turned on its people yet.
And that's the whole point of the Second Amendment, to make sure government can never do that.
That is exactly right, and that's so very well said.
You know, when this nation was born, that's when, you know, it took... And people like to say that too, and I don't want to sit here and just get into the age-old debate.
You've talked about it a billion times, and so have I, about the actual wording of the amendment.
Those who afford gun control and want to limit our rights to defend ourselves in whatever manner we see fit are always saying, are you a part of a militia?
Are you in a militia?
It says only if you are in a well-regulated militia should you have the right to keep and bear arms.
And they don't understand what a militia is.
They don't understand that we are the militia if, indeed, it comes time to band together and fight tyranny, and we need to have the weapons we need at our disposal.
What's worse is that you have people like Steve Dettelbach, who is the director of the corrupt Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, and he can't even figure that out himself when he's being questioned, on the Judiciary Committee stand in Congress.
Yeah, don't throw some common sense at them.
They can't understand it.
No, not at all.
It's just hilarious.
But the good news is that more and more people seem to be understanding.
I've got a story in front of me right now from Just the News showing that U.S.
gun sales topped $1 million now for the 49th consecutive month.
A heightened number of gun sales come even as the Biden administration tries to crack
down on firearms.
They try to enact new restrictions, trying to limit our ability, the types of weapons
we can own, the amount of ammunition we can buy and so forth.
But it doesn't seem to be, and it seems like every time we have one of those, it's the
greatest advertisement for getting to your gun store and buying new weaponry every single
time they do it.
Well, yeah, resistance to tyranny is kind of like an American tradition, right?
It's part of our national identity.
So I kind of feel like a little schoolgirl in the schoolyard, skip along with her friends.
When I hear stuff like that 49 months in a row, that's beautiful.
Because I get happy when I hear that the roots of rebellion to tyranny in America is alive and well.
You know, we can talk about this till we're blue in the face, but all those meaningful common sense restrictions on purchasing firearms that they want to cram down our throats.
Well, they're already on the books in places like Chicago, and that place turns into a war zone every Friday night that it's over 60 degrees outside.
So I think this is a...
We just keep beating around the same bush, but I love it that when Americans' typical reaction to this kind of stuff is to go down to your local gun store and buy some Freedom Tools.
Yeah!
Chris Doerr, Executive Director of Ohio Gun Owners, that's phenomenal.
That's exactly what they are, Freedom Tools.
Biden signed an executive order in March, and this is in that same story.
To support the increased use of background checks and red flag laws, which allow for firearms to be temporarily confiscated from people determined by officials, and I don't know how they're going to define that word, to be a threat, and how they're going to define that word, to others or themselves.
So, even though he makes these orders, and even though they try to implement new legislation, it just doesn't seem to stop us.
What are your thoughts on the government, whether it be Biden or anybody else, trying to expand quote-unquote background checks and red flag laws?
Well, they're not just trying, they're taking active steps to do it.
Of course, everybody remembers last summer's treachery when I think it was, I don't know, like nine or 11 Senate Republicans, U.S.
Senate Republicans, joined with the Democrats to vote for and fund Joe Biden's Bipartisan Safer Communities Act.
As part of that, they gave authorization to the ATF to reclassify.
And this is what the ATF is trying to do right now.
They're trying to reclassify what defines a firearms dealer.
And they want to create rules now.
The ATF wants to bypass Congress, and they want to create these rules that essentially classify anybody, ultimately, who sells a firearm to somebody else as a firearms dealer, and thus subject to a background check.
Of course, I know you know, all of your listeners know, that a background check has probably never stopped a single killer.
You can think of any mass shooting in the last 15 years.
The majority of them all purchased a firearm with a background check.
It doesn't stop anybody.
What it does is it creates a national list of every gun and gun owner in the country.
They're actively trying to do this.
And why does the government want to have a list of all the gun and gun owners in America?
Well, it's pretty simple.
They want to confiscate them.
That's exactly right, and that is exactly what Oliver Anthony was talking about in his hit song, the viral song, when he said they're trying to come for our guns and they might try that in the city, but nope, that's not happening.
Chris Doerr, Executive Director of Ohio Gun Owners, I wish we had more time, my friend.
This is great stuff all the way around.
Thank you so much for coming in.
Thank you.
Have a good one.
Thank you.
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You know, I knew it literally right after I said it.
No, that was the Jason Aldean song.
See, those two songs I have been playing non-stop on my playlist at home.
And I'm talking about Jason Aldean's Try That in a Small Town and Oliver Anthony's North of Richmond.
And I mixed them up.
Because the line about try taking the guns away, you can try that in the city, but not around here, that whole thing and that lyric, as I was just talking to Chris Dorsey.
Yeah, I messed it up, sorry.
Thank you for the reminder by playing the intro to Try That in a Small Town.
Two great songs.
By the way, We were just talking off the air, Eric and I, about Oliver Anthony's song, The Richmond North of Richmond, and how he is trying to play the political middle and say, you know, this song isn't just about, you know, Biden, and it's not just about anybody.
It's not about one side.
But if you listen to that song line-by-line, lyric-by-lyric, it is very, very clear.
It is a conservative-principled song, whether he intended it to be or not.
Maybe he's an unintentional conservative.
And I think we're going to talk about that after the top of this hour.
I really do.
I wasn't planning on it, but I want to, because I think there's some points that have to be made there.
I do want to go to Russ, calling us from Denver, Colorado on America First.
Hi, Russ.
It's Bob, in for Dr. G. Go right ahead.
Yeah.
Hi, Bob.
Hi, Russ.
Just listening to what you're saying there.
I don't know if we need guns.
We just need the language to beat the left.
And the language would be slavery.
I mean, they're trying to create dependence out of black people and everybody else eventually.
And that's all the Democrats stand for.
They're not any better than that.
They're slave owners.
That's what they've That's what this all leads to.
Sure, it goes against freedom.
It goes against the Second Amendment.
But the name for them that we should call them, not what it does, but we should just call them slave owners and just be straight about it.
I mean, we're going to fight this fight.
We've got to fight it from an honest, straightforward approach.
Well, very few people realize the history that you're talking about here as well, sadly.
And you're right, Russ, thanks for the call.
The Republican Party was formed almost ostensibly just to end slavery.
It's why the Republican Party was born.
Things have not changed.
In the years following slavery, in the pre-Civil Rights era, when the Klan ran wild, that was Democrat.
The opponents of the Civil Rights Act, those were Democrats.
It's very, very true.
They like to split us up.
They like to use Marxist critical theory to divide.
There's no question about that along racial lines.
That's what critical race theory is all about.
And yes, they like to keep minorities who have previously struggled because of oppression, even when that oppression is lifted and equal opportunities are granted for all now, They like to keep them down and under their thumb, if you will.
Keep them dependent upon government for food, for shelter, for opportunities and so forth, rather than just go be the Americans and live the American dream.
That's the Democrat Party's mantra.
And that's why the phrasing from people like Larry Elder and so many others is accurate when they say they don't want blacks to get off of the Democrat plantation.
Now it's an ideological plantation instead of a physical one, but you do understand the point.
And I think you made that very, very clear.
Thanks for the call, Russ.
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I want to do something to start hour number three.
We've got a great guest coming up in about 10, 12, 15 minutes, something like that.
We're going to talk to Sean Reck, who's the director of Convicting a Murderer, which launches tonight in response to Making a Murderer, the viral sensation, if you will, from about five, six years ago on Netflix, on the Stephen Avery story.
But I want to do something to start this hour that was unplanned until I just had an off-the-air chat.
With Eric, who's producing the show today, about the song Richmond, North of Richmond.
Because I mistakenly said to Chris Dorr about, you know, because we were talking about Second Amendment, obviously Second Amendment Friday, and I quoted a line from Jason Aldean's Try That in a Small Town, which I incorrectly attributed to the Richmond, North of Richmond song.
But it got us talking about Richmond, North of Richmond, and I, you know, it saddens me, and it troubles me.
That people with conservative ideologies and conservative viewpoints and family values and so forth seem to be afraid to acknowledge that.
You know what I mean?
Afraid to come out and say who they are.
It's kind of in a weird, warped way, the way that it used to be about staying in the closet with your sexuality.
It's almost like if you're conservative, particularly if you want to be a celebrity, If you want to be in the music world, if you want to be in Hollywood, you kind of have to keep your conservative principles to yourself, because you're going to get cancelled.
And that saddens me.
And I think that's what happened with Oliver Anthony.
If you watched the first presidential debate, From back on August 23rd, you saw they played that clip, or a portion of the song, Richmond, North of Richmond, for the crowd and then they asked some of the debaters, I think it started with DeSantis, what that song means to them, what he's trying to say and so forth.
Oliver Anthony came out after that and said, man, that one, those are some of the people I was talking about.
There's some of the rich men that I'm complaining about.
And then he went on Joe Rogan's podcast, very popular podcast, and tried to say that, oh, I don't take a side.
I'm not, uh, you know, I'm not, it's not all Biden's fault.
This is about much more than him and it's not all their fault.
I'm just right down the middle.
And I'm like, okay, if that's real, that's fine.
If you're right down the middle, be down the middle.
There's a lot of centrists, a lot of moderates in America.
That's fine.
But then I went back and I listened to the song, I don't know, a few dozen more times, because I like it.
It's good music.
And the more I listen to it, the more I think, this guy's not down the middle.
This guy's a conservative, but he's afraid to admit it.
Or he doesn't know.
That he really, truly is.
But his words betray him.
I want to play this, if I can.
I want to try to play this and point out what makes me say that conservatives need to be proud to stand up and say, I'm conservative.
Because being conservative is to be family values centered, to be equal opportunity for all but not equitable outcomes for everyone.
But you reap what you sow, you believe in law and order and keeping the government out of your face and let me do the rest.
There's nothing wrong with that.
It's okay to say that without fear of being cancelled.
And I kind of feel like that's what's going on here with Oliver Anthony and Richmond, north of Richmond.
So I want to play this, and I'm going to try to stop it in between.
And tell me if you think this sounds like somebody who's right down the middle, or somebody who's a true conservative but who's afraid to admit it because it might be bad for him in terms of a career.
I think that's what we're talking about.
Working all day.
Overtime hours.
For bullshit pay.
So I can sit out here and waste my life away.
Drag back home and drown my troubles away.
It's a damn shame.
What the world's gotten to.
For people like me.
People like you.
Now most of that so far is pretty much straightforward.
It's not really any ideologically driven, you know, there's nothing ideologically driven in it, but because everybody wants more money, everybody wants, you know, better pay.
And obviously we had to edit out the BS word there.
Everybody wants better pay and that's all good so far, but let's continue.
Rich men north of Richmond, Lord knows they all want to have total control.
Who is trying to control every aspect of your life?
The political ideology that says, grow government to massive levels and have them be responsible for everything?
Or the political ideology that says, leave us alone, provide for our basic needs, provide us with a military, provide us with a police force, build some bridges and roads, and let us do the rest?
Who's trying to have total control of you?
The left or the right?
I think we all know the answer to that.
Which party, which ideological movement wants to know what you think and what you do?
That wants to spy on you?
That wants to send FBI agents to your homes if you go to a school board meeting?
And complain about pornography in your kids' classrooms?
Which political ideology and party does that sound like he's talking about?
When he talks about those rich men north of Richmond in Washington, D.C.
Your dollar ain't squat and it's taxed to no end.
Your dollar ain't squat and it's taxed to no end.
Which party is the party that taxes you to no end?
Who raises your taxes every time they get into power?
Who screams, we have to spend more, more, more, and to do that we need more and more taxation on corporations, on business owners.
And which party gives you a tax break every time they come into power?
Which party thinks that more of your tax dollars are better off in your pocket for our economy than they are in the government's hands?
You'll grease the skids of our economy.
The wheels of our economy, rather.
You'll grease the wheels.
You'll be the one who makes it go, because your spending will grow organically.
Businesses and job opportunities in our communities.
Which party wants to cut your taxes?
Which wants to raise them?
Clearly, He knows the answer?
answer.
Wish politicians would look out for miners.
What kind of miners?
Coal miners.
M-I-N-E-R-S.
Who wants to kill and crush fossil fuels?
The Democrat Party does.
Who wants to embrace fossil fuels?
The conservative Republican Party does.
Not just miners on an island somewhere, even managed to drop in an Epstein Island reference on there, and you can make what you will of that, but I think everybody knows what happened to Jeffrey Epstein, and I think everybody knows what that means and what that likely represents.
We'll continue.
What did the left say when they heard that line?
He's fat shaming people!
5'3 and 300 pounds and the obese eating bags of fudge rounds?
Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds.
What did the left say when they heard that line?
He's fat shaming people.
Five foot three and three hundred pounds in the O.B. seat and bags of fudge rounds.
Who fat shames people?
The left or the right?
Let me rephrase that.
I actually asked that incorrect.
Who is always complaining about fat shaming?
The left is embracing unhealthy obesity and tells you body positivity is more important than anything else!
And who is saying you shouldn't be on welfare if you look like that?
And why don't you go out and get a job like all these other people who are working themselves right into the ground?
To make money, and to pay taxes, to then give you EBT cards to go buy bags of fudge rounds.
What ideology does it sound like he's referencing?
The men are putting themselves six feet in the ground Cause all this damn country does is keep on kicking them
down Lord, it's a damn shame
What the world's gotten to For people like me
For people like you Wish I could just wake up
And it not be true But it is
Oh, it is Living in the new world
With an old soul These rich men know the rich men
Lord knows they all just wanna have Total control
Wanna know what you And I think you get the point.
The rest of it is redundant, but it makes me sad.
The reason I'm even bringing it up is because conservatives ought not to be afraid to say, I'm conservative.
Oliver Anthony is expressing conservative values throughout that entire message, but then says, no, I'm right down the middle.
Coming up on America First, Sean Reck, filmmaker, director of Convicting a Murderer.
You're going to love this conversation.
Stay here.
I'm Bob Francin for Dr. G.
I'm going to be talking about the importance of the art of surgery.
I'm Seb Gawker.
Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
Dr. G, thank you.
20 minutes past the hour.
Thanks for being with us on this Friday.
Second Amendment Friday, of course, on America First.
I'm live in Cleveland, Ohio.
Cleveland, Ohio is also home to one of the most talented filmmakers working today.
Now, you won't know this because he's not in Hollywood.
He doesn't have a Hollywood name, but I will tell you what.
Tonight, everybody in America that is interested in true crime, that is interested in movies, quite frankly, they're going to know the name of Great, Bob.
Thank you for having me on.
One part docuseries called Convicting a Murderer, which launches tonight.
Everybody will know the name, Sean Reck.
Sean joins us now on America First from my hometown of Cleveland.
It is good to talk to you again, Sean.
How are you, sir?
Great, Bob.
Thank you for having me on.
I really appreciate it.
Biggest night of your life is what you told me off the air.
Tell us.
You know what, Sean, before we talk about convicting a murderer, you know, we just kind of assume everybody has seen because of the massive, you know, numbers that it got on Netflix, it won a ton of awards.
It's been, what, five, six years now since Making a Murderer dominated the headlines and it was the story of the apparently wrongfully convicted of murder Stephen Avery and corrupt police and corrupt judges and corrupt investigators and so forth.
Give us that background before we get to how and why we now have convicting a murderer.
Sure.
Back in 2015, Netflix, which relies very heavily on viewer behavior analysis, and they have a lot of algorithms, their algorithm told them that they needed a long-form crime that people can binge.
And their algorithm was right, because when they finally gave their audience that long-form journalism right around Christmas time, It was a staggering success.
Water-cooler talk all over the world.
19 million people watched in the first couple weeks.
Making a Murderer was a 10-hour docuseries.
A lot of people watched 10 hours in a row.
It changed television.
It started binging.
It was the first bingeable factual crime series.
And it changed the game for all of us who are in this business.
Um, and it's a very important, uh, I'd say the most, probably the most historic, in my opinion, the most historic docuseries ever made.
Okay, so it's massively popular, it's worldwide, the numbers you just quoted are staggering, it got all kinds of awards, but you watched it, not just through the eyes of a fan, binging a really, really interesting and dramatic series, a true crime tale, you watched it through the eyes of a critic.
Tell me why, and tell me what you saw that said, wait a minute, I don't know if this story is being told correctly.
Well, I watched it through the eyes of a filmmaker.
My first film, A Murder in the Park, had just come out.
Just come out.
So this was helping A Murder in the Park, because when people were making a murder, all these articles were popping up saying, if you're binging more, you know, try these movies that would list the jinx and the thin blue line.
And on almost every one of those lists was my movie, A Murder in the Park.
So it helped our sales, too.
I made money off making A Murder Just with how it helped to murder in the park.
But as a filmmaker, I was watching it and I was like, boy, I believe them, okay?
I believe what I was seeing because there's an implicit belief that you're being fed the truth when you're watching a factual series.
So I just didn't understand why certain things in the series weren't fully explained or vetted out or they didn't close the loop.
One thing that was that there seemed to have been some tampering with a blood vial Um, from which police took some blood and planted it in a car to make Stephen Avery look guilty for the murder of Teresa Halbach.
And I couldn't understand why they didn't close this loop.
So I watched the series, I believe it, but I was like, boy, this filmmaking was kind of funny.
You know, a little strange.
I would have, I would have milked some of those points a little harder.
And about a week later, a writer named Catherine Schultz, also from our hometown of Cleveland, who writes for the New Yorker, She wrote a piece, tearing Making a Murderer to shreds.
And it was everything they left out.
It was how biased the editing was.
It was how they changed testimony.
It was a really damning article.
But in this day and age, not a whole lot of people are going to see something like that, that calls it out.
I read that article.
I read another one called The Emotional Distillation of Making a Murderer, written by Bronwyn Dickey for a magazine called Salon.
And I was like, oh, the mother of all slapbacks is coming.
Someone is going to make a phenomenal docuseries showing that this is BS, and I can't wait to watch it.
Well, nobody did.
And after about two years, I was contacted by the prosecutor, Ken Kratz, the special prosecutor in the home murder case.
And he said, I just watched a murder in the park.
You're the only person to ever expose what people now call the innocence industry.
And he said, you're probably the only person I would trust with my story.
And I said, well, okay, I would take a crack at it.
And he's like, yeah, we're going to do this and we're going to do that.
And I said, well, no, actually, actually, I'm going to do it.
Because, you know, you're not going to have any control.
You're not going to have a final cut or anything like that.
This has to be a true piece of journalism.
So I'm going to let you talk and use a lot of what you say, but you're not going to be calling the shots.
And I finally got everyone to agree to that, a bunch of the law enforcement people and former prosecutors, and we made a deal that I'm going to go out and do this.
And I said, guys, if I find out you did something wrong, I'm going to film them taking you to prison for framing Stephen Avery.
I'm just telling you right now.
And they said, we have absolutely nothing to worry about.
You can go right ahead.
We have nothing to hide.
So this was six years ago, Bob.
I had no idea it was going to take this long to get done.
This is such a massive undertaking.
A woman named Brenda Shuler is the producer of this of this project.
And she, I don't know how many thousands of hours she put in becoming who I consider the preeminent expert, subject matter expert on this case.
But she came on as the producer, and she has a point of view.
You know, she believes Stephen's guilty.
But, you know, as a director, I have to keep an even keel.
And, you know, we worked on this whole time, and then we got what we thought was a finished version done last year.
I went out to Hollywood to sell this thing, and I've been able to sell everything else.
Ironically, everything I've made, pretty much, has ended up on Netflix.
Sometimes Showtime, sometimes Starz.
We put a lot of stuff on iTunes.
It'll go number one or number two on the documentary chart.
But nobody wanted to touch this project with a 10-foot pole because it was making Netflix look bad.
And Netflix is the biggest force in the entertainment industry right now.
So nobody wanted to upset them.
So I had a very, very hard time selling this finished project.
Sean, just since you're talking about selling it and the difficulty in selling it, how much money went into it?
How much out-of-pocket did it take to produce this?
It was a bunch of investors in Cleveland, but millions and millions of dollars went into this.
It was the largest undertaking we've ever had.
And you took this on faith.
I mean, you had to have just a belief that somebody is going to buy this.
You're out there trying to sell it.
You're running into all of these roadblocks because, like you said, everybody's afraid of Netflix.
So at that point in time, you may have made the best thing you've ever done and nobody will ever see it.
Well, yeah, that was a risk that I took and that my backers took.
But we knew there was a built-in audience of probably 100 million people.
who would watch another season of Making a Murderer.
And we wanted to show them the whole story and show them how they would be...
Sean, let me interrupt you because I've got a break here.
We're not done, though. Stay there if you would.
I want to tell everybody about Convicting a Murderer, which launches tonight at 9 p.m.
I want you to tell us how to watch it, and I want to get the rest of this story with director Sean Reck.
I'm going to be right back.
Making a Murderer Making a Murderer
Making a Murderer Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
Dr. G, thank you.
33 minutes past the hour.
We do continue on America First now and our guest is filmmaker and director of what is just going to be an explosive 10-part docuseries that launches tonight at 9 p.m.
called Convicting a Murderer.
It's almost a rebuttal to the Making a Murderer Netflix series that was so popular back in 2015, 2016.
And Sean Reck, the director, is with us.
And Sean, I started asking you about the making of this whole thing, and you started it about two years after Making a Murderer came out, and you put millions into it, and thousands of hours, and then didn't think you'd ever be able to sell it.
That was where we left off.
Tell me how we got where we are now with you partnering with The Daily Wire.
Well, yeah, we were quite concerned that we were being blackballed.
We were certainly being blackballed.
I'm not saying that Netflix told anybody to not buy it.
It's just that, you know, as one agent told me, he said, hey, man, I've got to work in this town.
So I didn't want our investors' money to be wasted.
I didn't want producer Brenda Schuller's thousands of hours of research and work to be wasted.
And it was very hard to sell.
And I didn't know if I was just going to throw it on iTunes and Amazon and hope it worked.
And Daily Wire and Candace Owens saved the day.
And I'm not being hyperbolic here.
They literally saved the day.
I went down to Nashville to the Daily Wire, had 14 hours of meetings with Candace Owens.
And she said, I'll do it, but I got to make it mine.
And she kind of reorganized everything we had done to do it in a different fashion, a linear fashion.
Ours is a little more artsy.
So we accepted those changes, and I think the result is a solid piece of work.
And we've been working on it for quite a while.
And Brenda teamed up with Candice and just made a fantastic product.
And tonight's the night, Bob.
Biggest thing in my life that we've ever done.
It's going to premiere on X, formerly known as Twitter, at 9 o'clock.
You can watch episode one on X for free.
You can go to Daily Wire Plus, you don't have to register or anything, and you can watch Episode 2 for free.
If it catches on with you and you want to binge it, and you want to watch Episode 3, you can sign up for Daily Wire, which I don't think costs too much.
And then every Thursday after today, they're going to drop another episode, so Episodes 4 through 10.
So episodes 1 and 2, are 1 and 2 both available tonight if they watch the first one on X for free and they want to go and see the episode 2 on Daily Wire Plus for free?
Is that available right after or is that tomorrow?
No, that's available simultaneously.
So instead of going to a movie tonight, save your money.
If you were making a Murderer fan, save your money and just watch this stuff for free tonight with some popcorn at home and learn the truth about what really happened, about who Stephen Avery really is.
Did I overstate it, Sean, when I called it a rebuttal to making a murderer?
Is that what it is?
No, that's fair.
That's fair.
It's fair characterization.
Okay, so it's the truth about Steve Avery.
Netflix tried to make it look like he was made into a murderer when he wasn't one.
Convicting says, when you see all of this, you'll know why he's convicted.
I'm looking at your Twitter page right now, Sean, and I'm seeing, just watched the first two episodes, and as someone who drank the Kool-Aid, thank you, at real Candace Owens, for giving me the antidote.
Another one saying, I'm so embarrassed I ever gave credence to the idea that Steve and Avery could be innocent.
My jaw is on the floor.
Amazing job to everyone.
This is kind of what you were going for, right?
This is, you wanted to bring truth to a story that was, that was fabilized a little bit for the purpose of money and ratings by Netflix.
For every two people who get it, um, there are going to be a Cleveland, uh, Steven Avery has, uh, you know, tens of thousands of servant supporters who would probably have me murdered if they could for making this movie.
And, and you're going to see an awful lot of negative comments on there too.
I've learned to speak to hate.
We're, we're, we're, Destroying a religion tonight, Bob.
But you're challenging them, too, Sean.
I'm looking here.
Earlier this morning, you put this out there.
To the truthers who watched the first three episodes on Daily Wire Plus, first of all, thank you for subscribing.
Secondly, some are saying, like Making a Murderer, we made deceptive edits.
If so, please point out any case in which we changed the meaning of a statement.
We will answer each one in earnest.
That's saying, let's do this.
Let's bring it on.
You're pretty confident in what you put together.
There are about 50 tweets under that, and not one of them is saying that we changed the quote.
So that shows you something right there.
Candace made a statement, Sean, in one of her promotional interviews with this.
She said, I'm sick and tired of a deceptive media.
And typically we think of, you know, she's conservative, I'm conservative, those of us in that realm think of legacy media, corporate media, it's too deceptive, it's not honest.
And you don't usually think of that, I guess, when you think of Netflix.
Well, it's a movie and television production company.
They're still media, and when they made that movie, or when they made that series, that's what she's saying.
It's not, it's not honest, is it?
People, no.
People, it's implicit.
When you watch a documentary, you watch it.
And these folks were like, hey, we're artists, we're entertainers, we were just trying to keep the audience engaged.
Netflix, I don't think Netflix was nefarious here.
I don't think they were evil.
I think Netflix is trying to serve their audience, but I think... Sean, I just ran out of time.
Sean Brecht, director of Convicting a Murderer.
We'll be right back.
Thank you.
you you
you I'm Seb Gorka.
Now let's get back to the show with Bob Franz.
Okay, 17 minutes left in the broadcast.
Full disclosure, by the way, and thank you, Dr. G. Full disclosure, I've known Sean Reck for, I want to say, almost 15 years now.
Back in around 2009, 2010, somewhere in that neighborhood, I hosted a television show in Cleveland called Crime Stoppers Case Files, in which case we We re-enacted and had re-enacted various cold case crimes.
Murders, rapes, assaults, all kinds of things that had happened where the cases, you know, cases, the trails went cold and put them on the air and asked viewers to see if this, anything that we re-enacted jogged their memories to see if we could catch.
We ended up catching dozens and dozens and dozens of violent criminals.
Won a slew of Emmy Awards.
I actually have two of them on my mantle.
uh... hosting that show and we caught four cold case murderers i say that not as a flex but just to let you know why i trust sean wreck he that was his baby that was his show since then he has gone on to some amazing film work and he is the co-owner of uh... of uh... streaming channel called true blue it's uh... which you can look at watch true blue without the east here you be all you watch true blue you remember chris hansen from uh... uh... nbc to catch a predator well chris hansen is still doing stings and catching predators trying to to molest children uh... after online hookups he's still doing it but now he does it on watch true blue and it's called take down with chris hansen that's all
I am going to host a Radio Arena television show, a long form interview show called Deeper Dive with Bob France on that channel.
So I've got history with this guy and I watched him build, convicting a murderer over the course of the last several years.
It is just, it's going to mesmerize you if you watch this.
It is.
You're going to love it.
It's free, like you said, on X Tonight at 9 o'clock.
The first episode of Convicting a Murderer.
The second episode is free at The Daily Wire Plus.
And then the other ones, you've got to subscribe to watch it the rest of the way.
But I highly encourage you to do so.
I'm a true crime buff, like Chris is.
Or, I mean, well, Chris Hansen and Sean, they both are.
So this kind of thing speaks to a lot of people if you're into true crime stories.
And also if you're interested in the truth about true crime stories.
Instead of the fables written by the likes of Netflix when they did Making a Murderer.
You're going to see something that will blow your mind when you watch this.
I want to go back to the phones at 833-33-GORKA.
We're going to go to where?
How about Mountain View, Arkansas?
I have not taken a call from Arkansas in a bit, but Dave, welcome to the show.
You're on America First.
Fire away.
Hello?
Hello, Dave.
Go ahead, sir.
Yeah, I wanted to just make a comment about the effort to divide blacks and whites that you mentioned earlier.
I think you were referring to liberals or Democrats, and I would say that there's no effort to divide blacks and whites.
Are you there?
Yeah, I'm listening to you.
Go right ahead.
Make your point.
I was just worried about my phone.
Okay, uh, the reason why there's no effort is because, uh, blacks and whites have always been divided since basically they first encountered each other.
So, uh, it's, uh, and another point I wanted to make is that someone said that blacks aren't Americans.
I think you were being, you were being sarcastic, but...
Well, very much so.
Because, you know, as an American, we have the American National Anthem.
And the fact that the National Football League last night saw fit to play the American National Anthem, but a separate black national anthem for black people, is implying that they're not Americans.
And I find that ludicrous.
We are all the same.
We are all Americans.
We have one anthem.
If you have another song that you just consider to be a nice song, and you want to play it as a part of a concert series before a game, fine, go for it.
But when they introduce it and hail it as the Black National Anthem, it is intentionally divisive, and it's dangerous, and it's not necessary.
The 14th Amendment gave citizenship to Blacks, and the South was forced to ratify that or live under martial law.
You're not answering or discussing the issue at hand.
Of course they are citizens.
What I'm saying is, when they try to divide and say, well there's the national anthem for Americans and then there's the black national anthem for blacks, it indicates that they're not American.
Or that there is some sort of a two-tiered country going on here, where one race has to have their own thing.
What are they going to have next?
Their own Black Pledge of Allegiance?
Is there going to be a Hispanic Constitution?
I mean, we all live and are governed by the same rules.
And thank you for the call.
I appreciate it, Dave.
We're governed by the same rules, and we all have the same opportunities.
And you say that blacks and whites are not divided.
Then why?
Are they teaching our children at the lowest and youngest levels of the educational system to hate one another based on what they look like?
You do know that's what CRT is.
Critical Race Theory is an intentional attempt to make little black kids hate little white kids, and little white kids to hate little black kids, so that they grow up hating one another as adolescents and as adults, and thus bringing what cannot be torn asunder, this glorious republic, without being torn asunder from within.
Making that happen.
That's exactly what Critical Race Theory is.
For those who don't know, the essence of it is Marxism.
Create two opposite sides and pit one against the other.
Offender against offended.
Oppressor against oppressed.
And they teach little white kids, you are a little racist.
You don't have anything to say about it.
You just are.
I don't care what you believe or what you think or what your opinion is.
It's in your DNA because you have white colored skin.
You're a racist and you want to oppress those people over there.
Then they go over to the little black kids and they say, you are going to be a victim forever.
See that white devil over there?
They're going to come after you and try to lock you up, beat you down.
They're going to try to deny you rights.
They're going to do everything they can to crush you and make you a victim for the rest of your life.
And then they say, oh there's the bell, go play.
Go on out to recess.
How do you think that's going to work?
Day after day, week after week, month after month.
That is intentional.
division of races in this country to make it weak and make it able to be torn apart exactly as Marx drew it up.
It's in the playbook.
Okay?
So don't tell me that blacks and whites have been pitted against each other since they were first introduced.
It's not true.
Especially because if what you're referring to, Dave, as so many liberals do, is slavery, then you have no earthly idea about the historical realities of slavery.
Blacks enslaving blacks.
Natives enslaving natives.
Whites enslaving whites.
Blacks enslaving whites.
I mean, this has been, throughout history, the idea that blacks and whites have been enemies since the first time they met is so short-sighted and shallow, thought-provoking, as opposed to deep-thinking, it's hard to describe.
We've got one more segment to go on America First.
Stay right here.
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I'm Seb Gorka.
Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
I always have so much fun sitting in for Dr. G on America First.
Great guests, great crew, great callers.
Let's wrap it up strong here.
Tom is in my hometown of Cleveland, Ohio.
Hey Tom, Bob France in for Dr. G. Fire it up.
Hey Bob, how are you doing?
Good, my friend.
What's up?
So, yeah, yeah, I love the fact that you're playing those patriotic songs by Aldean and the Richmond, above Richmond.
Yeah.
Have you ever heard the song Angry American by Chris Higbee?
I have heard of it.
I don't know that I have heard it.
Okay, this is like right in line with what those songs are, where it's talking about people today and how they're fed up with what's going on in Washington.
He's from somewhere around Erie, PA.
He plays country and patriotic music.
And his wife is in the military.
And we've seen him a few times live.
And he'll bring up about eight, you know, former military or present military people on stage at the end.
They'll be holding American flags.
I'm going to have to look that song up.
Yeah, I'm going to have to look that song up on my phone and maybe put it in my library.
Like I said, I've heard about it, Angry American.
I couldn't sing it.
I couldn't, you know, thank you for the call, pinpoint it if I knew it was on.
But I will look it up because I've heard good things about it, too, and I appreciate that.
Heads up.
Thank you, my friend.
Another Tom.
This one's on the other side, though, all the way in the West, California.
Hey, Tom, go ahead.
Hey, thanks for taking my call.
Excellent job today, Bob.
Really nice listening to you.
Yes, I am living in California, originally from the East Coast.
I am trained law enforcement, and I did get put on the white male list as I waited to get hired, and they never came around to it.
It was really frustrating.
I have graduated top of my class, and I had a few sergeants and lieutenants and captains fight for me, but in the end, I just didn't fit the mold when I was trying to get hired on about 15 years ago.
So, um, you get on the point.
I don't, I'm never going to have enough time to talk.
I realized that you got time constraints there, but you know, there, there is a, there is a war going on here.
It's been going on for quite some time.
Um, and I'm just going to say they, you can see the communist socialists, whatever Marxist, uh, they, they know who to use.
They use their useful idiots.
Well, they use the people that are already angry and frustrated because of what's been shoved down their throats over these years, since they were kids in the schools, in the media, everything else.
I saw it out on the streets.
It's not a joke.
It's been going on a lot longer than people have realized, I think.
You see, I saw it firsthand.
I also did some time in Hollyweird, and they're even crazier in that area there.
But, I mean, I can tell you stories and you can go on all day.
I don't know if I'm allowed to.
Well, you were right, my friend, about the time constraints.
I don't have time for any stories right now, but I appreciate your call, and I hope the next time I sit in for Dr. G, you call me back a little earlier in the show.
Maybe we will have some opportunities to hear some of those stories, but you're right.
Sadly, all of these things we're talking about are true, and we have to recognize them.
They've been going on for a very long time, and it's going to take a long time to stop it and to bring it to a halt.
That is going to do it for us.
Thank you again to the team, to Dr. G for letting me be here, and to you for listening.
Be well, be safe, stay free.
Have a safe weekend.
God bless.
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