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July 18, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka
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Bob Frantz LIVE: The garbage J6 indictment of President Trump
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I'm Seb Gawker.
Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
Thank you, Dr. G. We are live in the ReliefFactor.com studios here in Cleveland, Ohio, AM 1420, The Answer.
Paraphrasing the statement by Donald J. Trump on Sunday night while I was with my family, horrifying news for our country was given to me by my attorneys.
Deranged Jack Smith, the prosecutor with Joe Biden's DOJ, sent a letter stating that I am a target.
The January 6th grand jury investigation giving me a very short four days to report to the grand jury, which almost always means an arrest and an indictment.
The fact that this came right as the walls are closing in on Joe Biden cannot be a coincidence.
We're going to talk about it now with one of President Trump's attorneys.
Let's welcome to the program Jesse Banal.
Thank you so much for the time, Jesse.
Appreciate having you here.
How are you?
I'm good, Bob.
It's good to talk to you.
It's good to have you.
I did an opening monologue, in which I guess I probably screamed it, and I'm just so disgusted for my country.
Not with my country, but for my country, that this kind of thing could be happening right now, because we all know what happened on January 6th was tragic, and in fact, some lawbreakers who actually did some bad things should be held accountable, but the overwhelming number of peaceful and patriotic Americans who followed President Trump's Advice to peacefully and patriotically make their voices heard that day have been swept up in this thing.
I never thought I'd see the day when they're actually going to try and indict President Trump.
So as one of his attorneys, what are they targeting him for?
Well, and to be clear, while I represent President Trump on another number of matters, I do not
represent him in these cases that are going to be brought by Jack Smith, which is what
allows me to actually be able to talk to you about this.
And what I can tell you is that this is going to be a completely baseless prosecution if
they bring it.
President Trump had every right in the world, he was correct in his statement, he has every
right in the world to contest election results.
That's part of a free republic, is you get to actually demand transparency in elections
and you get to question the results of an election.
And everything he did was fully legal on that.
And in fact, by taking and bringing his fight to Congress the way that we saw happened in 2020 and early 2021, is specifically protected by something called the Petition Clause in the First Amendment, which protects people and their right to petition the government for redress of grievances.
And so I can say that this is another example of President Trump acting completely within the law, but you get these political zealot prosecutors that will stop at nothing in order to go after Donald Trump because they are terrified that he's going to be president again.
They know that the American people love him.
They know that they support him.
They know how excited Americans are to get out to the ballot box and vote for him, vote early for him.
And so they are left knowing that they can't beat Donald Trump at the ballot box, so they have to try to beat him in a courtroom.
And this time, they really want to beat him in a D.C.
courtroom, where they think they can railroad him through without his opportunity to have a fair trial.
Jesse Banah, one of President Trump's attorneys.
Thank you for the clarification.
Of course, you couldn't talk about this if you were representing him in this particular matter or these matters with Jack Smith.
When you talk about zealot attorneys, district attorneys, Are they acting on their own?
What are we really seeing here?
Are they the ones doing this?
Or is Jack Smith specifically following the marching orders of the Attorney General of the United States, who is following the instructions of the President of the United States to take out, in just a blatant act of election interference, take out the chief rival, the one man that probably has a far better shot of dethroning the incumbent president than anyone else?
Are they taking orders from the top, in your view, Jesse?
In my view, I'll tell you exactly what's happening.
And that is, um, when Merrick Garland, uh, and remember Merrick Garland hates Donald Trump because Merrick Garland's life ambition was to be on the Supreme Court.
And it was Donald Trump who decided not to put Merrick Garland on the Supreme Court, but instead appoint a truly great constitutional, uh, American, uh, Neil Gorsuch for that position instead.
Um, and so Garland hates Donald Trump.
And he certainly is doing the bidding of Joe Biden.
But all Merrick Garland had to do was appoint a political zealot, appoint somebody who he knew would stop at nothing to see Donald Trump behind bars, Jack Smith, wind him up and let him go.
That's all he had to do.
And then when it came time to appoint a special counsel for the Biden investigation, he appointed
somebody who was meek and mild and somebody who was going to be much softer against Joe
Biden.
This, in the appointments of special counsels right now in the Department of Justice, is
the best example I've ever seen that personnel is policy.
The most important thing that Garland could do is appoint a political zealot that would
stop at nothing to get Donald Trump.
And that's why we see every single one of these prosecutors that's going after Donald Trump right now is a political zealot.
Whether it's in New York, whether it's in Georgia, or whether it's Jack Smith's gang of thugs in Washington, D.C., they are all political zealots.
that want to pursue a political agenda and political interference because they don't trust the American people.
We're talking with Jesse Banah, one of President Trump's team of attorneys.
He is not representing President Trump in this particular case that may be coming, perhaps an indictment and an arrest.
Have you seen the letter that Jack Smith sent him on Sunday night, or do you just have what we all have, and that is the President's statement about the letter?
Yeah, that's right.
I've just seen the statement, is all.
I'm wondering, for the attorneys who are in receipt of that letter, and I'm sure President Trump passed it along immediately to those who are representing him here, can you ascertain a guess as to what the actual indictment might be?
President Trump seems pretty convinced by his statement that an indictment and an arrest are coming.
What would the charges be if you could, like I said, hazard a guess?
Well, I mean, I don't want to get too far ahead of this and start guessing too much about what's going to be an indictment, especially, you know, guessing in which what's in a complete witch hunt of an indictment that would never have any legal basis.
But it appears to be based on some kind of theory that by contesting the election, President Trump would have interfered with an official proceeding.
That would be consistent with the way that they've gone after some of these January 6th protesters.
Um, especially as some of the nonviolent ones that they've gone after, um, that would be consistent with that.
And, um, it's, that's why I say it's a completely crazy theory.
Um, when you're saying that a candidate for president can't contest the election results.
Um, and, uh, like for instance, um, the issue with alternate electors is something that had a legal basis.
It was something that the Kennedy campaign successfully did in 1960.
Um, and they, uh, Nixon in the 1960 election had originally won, um, uh, the, uh, electoral votes in Hawaii.
And there was a recount going on when the electors were voting.
And so there was, uh, alternate electors that actually voted that supported, uh, Kennedy.
When the recount showed that Kennedy actually won the state of Hawaii, then in, on January 6th of 1961, Acting as President of the Senate because he was the Vice President at the time, President Nixon counted those votes for John F. Kennedy.
So there's a legal basis for doing all of these things.
And now, Jack Smith seems to be of the opinion that somehow this is criminal, ignoring the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.
And it's very, very dangerous.
It is all of that.
And there are other precedents to talk about, too.
And I think we need to talk about 2016 or early 2017, as a matter of fact.
Jesse Binal, if you can hang with us for a short timeout, we'll continue with Jesse Binal, one of President Trump's attorneys, as the witch hunt in election interference continues.
We'll be right back.
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Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
33 minutes past the hour, Bob France indeed sitting in for Dr. G's.
Anybody remember this?
We have more oil than anybody, okay?
And it's an incredible thing that it's happened over the last few years.
Apologies, I think I hit the wrong button there.
Hold on, let's get it.
We got it here.
We gotta go out, and we gotta fight like hell, and we gotta win the House, and we gotta win the Senate.
And I think we're gonna do great in the Senate, and I think we're gonna do great in the House, because the economy is so good.
Well, we're flubbing on our clip here.
We're trying to play the part where President Trump did indeed, but you've heard it enough times.
Tell his supporters on January 6th to peacefully and patriotically go down to the Capitol and make their voices heard, which is precisely what Americans have been doing since the beginning of this Republican.
We're talking with Jesse Binal, who is one of President Trump's attorneys, trying to figure out what it is that Jack Smith could be trying to charge or indict Donald Trump on this time relative to the grand jury that was investigating to January 6th.
So, Jesse, you told me off the air that you don't think it's going to be about his speech, about the things that he said, because those words were very clear despite my inability to hit them just now.
They were very clear, just go down there and make your voices heard, which is something that is of paramount importance to Americans and has been since we started this whole thing.
So you think that can't be the problem?
I would be absolutely shocked if they indicted him based on the speech.
The speech was very, very clear.
As you said, encourage people only to peacefully and patriotically make their voices heard.
Now compare that with the violent rhetoric from the left and Maxine Water telling people to harass members of President Trump's cabinet.
Chuck Schumer telling people, uh, telling Supreme Court justice that they will reap the whirlwind.
Um, you know, the violent rhetoric always comes from the left and there's certainly never any prosecutions based on that.
I think it is, uh, you know, a little bit more likely that you're going to see this interference with an official proceeding, uh, charge, but that's just equally as crazy.
Um, uh, because if they're going to try to say that by trying to convince members of Congress, um, to vote a certain way on an election certification that
that's a crime.
Well, they certainly didn't prosecute that that crime when Maxine Waters and and her conspirators tried to
decertify the 2020 election or for that matter And not just 2020, but 2001, 2005, you know, in each of the George W. Bush elections they did this, and then of course in 2017 as well.
So I mean, you know, this questioning and trying to decertify or not certify the electors is not new.
So again, If we're trying to ascertain what it is that Jack Smith might be trying to charge Donald Trump with here, they can't do it based on his speech.
They can't do it based on the fact that he has dared to ask certain senators to not certify the election, because that's been done many times before.
Again, we're running out of things.
What could they charge him for because there is simply no basis for it based on those precedents?
And that's why, at the end of the day, if we're going to be looking for intellectual consistency, we're going to be very disappointed here.
Because we all know that these left-wing prosecutors, these prosecutors whose only goal is to continue to legitimize the DC political establishment, will always find an excuse to protect their own.
And by protecting their own, I mean, you know, certainly the Joe Bidens and Hunter Bidens of the world.
But also, you know, the Peter Strucks of the world, people in the FBI and Lisa Pages, who never face accountability, who are really the ones who are above the law, they will always make excuses for those people, Hillary Clinton, and then they will always find a reason to go after Donald Trump and his supporters because they politically oppose us.
And they come from a school of thought where you have to take and you have to imprison your political opponents.
And that's what we're dealing with right now.
And they think that the situation in Washington, D.C.
is such that anybody that supports Donald Trump, and certainly Donald Trump himself, would never be able to get a fair trial in Washington, D.C.
So let's prosecute him there.
Let's railroad him through a judicial proceeding in Washington, D.C., where the only ones probably that would be more biased than the jury are probably the judges in Washington, D.C.
And so the result is you can't get a fair trial.
Jesse, I've got one minute left.
Let's say he did get a fair trial.
Let's say he was acquitted in all of these things.
It really doesn't matter.
They would have succeeded if they indict him in Manhattan, if they indict him in Florida, if they indict him in D.C., and they're going to indict him in Georgia.
Even if he wins them all, all of this is happening during a presidential election cycle.
How is he supposed to get out there and campaign and prepare to try to win the presidential election?
That's what makes this so damning, is that it is truly textbook election interference, isn't it?
Yeah, that's right, is they know that the process is the punishment, that just putting somebody through this alone and is interfering with the election is exactly what they want to do.
They're hoping that they can just they can interfere with this election through the process, and that alone would will allow them to defeat Donald Trump.
They underestimate the American people and how the American people are going to react to this.
We're not going to stand for it.
Well, I hope they're underestimating the Trump legal team as well, because I know they are ready for this as you are and all of the work that you do for President Trump.
Jesse Banal, thank you for coming on America First.
I'm Bob Franson for Dr. G. We'll be back.
Thanks for watching.
Bye.
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I'm Seb Gorka.
Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
Okay, 43 minutes past.
That means 17 minutes before the top of the hour.
Thanks for being with us.
Live from the ReliefFactor.com studios here in Cleveland, Ohio.
My home base is AM 1420.
The Answer.
We've been so busy responding and reacting to this notification that President Trump got from Jack Smith about Being a target of an investigation by the January 6th committee and the grand jury, I guess I should say, they're talking about potentially indicting him.
We're trying to figure out for what.
I want to invite you to follow me on social media as Dr. G does.
I'm on Twitter at France Rants, that's F-R-A-N-T-Z, R-A-N-T-Z, or you can just look up Bob France, on Facebook at Always Right Radio.
We're gonna walk down to the Capitol.
And we're gonna cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women.
all of those places. This is what I was trying to play for Jesse Banal. We've all heard it,
but I'll give you the short version of it anyway, because it's so important given what
they are trying to charge him.
We're going to walk down to the Capitol. And we're going to cheer on our brave senators
and congressmen and women. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol
building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.
I'm looking for some ambiguity.
I'm looking for something that makes that statement perhaps a double meaning.
Is there something there that I just can't pick up on?
Is there a lilt in his voice?
Is there a wink-wink to the crowd when he says, peacefully and patriotically?
I'm not detecting it when I watch the video.
I'm not seeing it.
I'm not hearing it.
They cannot be going after him for incitement to violence at the Capitol when he did nothing but try to tell his supporters to go down there and make their voices heard peacefully and patriotically.
So what could it be?
Jesse Binal, one of the President's attorneys, not in this case, as he pointed out, just told us, though, it could be for his objecting And thus, an interruption of an official proceeding is objecting to the certification of the election.
And again, I'm scratching my head.
Jesse Banal is one of the best attorneys in the country.
He's representing Donald Trump.
He pretty much only hires the best, right?
And he's a legal expert.
I'm not, but I've got common sense.
I'm trying to figure, well, how could that work?
Considering the fact that three times in the last 20 years alone, We have seen Democrats objecting to election certification three times in the last 20 years.
And there were never any charges.
There were never any indictments about interrupting official proceedings and so forth.
And the reason why is because they're allowed to do that.
But apparently only they are allowed to do that.
Since the passage, are you ready?
Of the Electoral Count Act of 1887, so we're going back here, right to when the Constitution was founded, for crying out loud.
In 1887, it provides a legal avenue for members of Congress to challenge electoral votes under the Constitution.
Democrat lawmakers have objected to election outcomes on three occasions since 2000 alone.
They did it in 2001 when they didn't believe Florida should be accepted, of course, with the massive recounts and the battle over hanging chads with George W. Bush beating Al Gore.
They did it in 2005 when George W. Bush won again, and they liked Frankenstein.
John Kerry didn't want to certify the election then either.
Then, of course, in 2017, When Queen Hillary didn't get to ascend to the top of the throne, you know, after the scepter was handed to her by Barack Obama to continue his work in quote, fundamentally transforming a representative republic into a socialist Marxist hellhole,
Trump steps up and they play the Russian collusion game.
He's a Russian asset.
This is not fair.
This election should not be certified.
They did that long after President Trump was inaugurated.
So what possibly could they be doing here to try to drag Donald Trump now into another courtroom facing another ridiculous witch hunt?
And the only thing I can think of, honestly, is that this is just, they know they've got nothing, but it makes some of the cackling hens on the radical left happy.
So it gives them something to pay attention to so they don't have to spend all day defending Joe and Hunter Biden.
Take a look at what the cackling hens on The View said today.
Cut number two.
Well, there is breaking news.
We just learned that you know who has received a letter from Special Counsel Jack Smith notifying him that he's a target in the DOJ's grand jury probe of efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
I mean, you could clap. Yeah, sure.
Applause They literally encouraged the audience to clap for that.
And I'll see you next time.
And that might be it.
That might be it.
Now they've got that to talk about on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, and all of the rest of them.
Now they've got that to talk about.
Trump got indicted.
You're about to get indicted for a third time.
And now we don't have to talk about the whistleblowers.
Now we don't have to talk about Joe Biden's name being on a ton of bank records, along with other Bidens receiving a ton of money that has been funneled and laundered through 20 different shell companies from Romania, from China, from Ukraine.
We don't have to talk about that now.
And you know that whole thing with the cocaine in the White House?
What cocaine?
Trump's being indicted again.
Maybe that's enough.
Maybe that's all they really want to do here.
Send the letter, get the entire news cycle pivoted over to Trump again and his illegal dealings, make the left cheer and celebrate for a little while, and again make another headache for his legal team and his campaign team.
If we can drag him into a Washington, D.C.
courtroom, even though we know we have nothing, if we can drag him into a courtroom over January 6th, that's more time he won't be able to campaign against Joe Biden.
Or Gavin Newsom, if that's what it turns out to be.
Speaking of the cocaine, by the way.
Well, we can't do it in this segment.
I've only got a minute to go.
I wanted to play.
We've got... Since...
The Secret Service did what Corinne Jean-Pierre, the black and gay press secretary for the president.
She's black and gay.
You have to identify her as such.
That's how they introduced her.
First black and gay press secretary in the history of the position, so I always reference her as the black and gay press secretary.
It's their decision, not mine, you see.
But the black and gay press secretary, Corinne Jean-Pierre, took to the podium yesterday and declared the Secret Service did a very thorough job.
The president's view is they did a very thorough job.
Well, wait a minute.
They spent three days looking.
And they didn't find anything, and then they said, we're done.
They called the lid.
How thorough could the job be?
Well, we're going to talk a little bit more about that as the cover-up of the Biden crime family continues at all levels of government.
IRS, FBI, DOJ, Secret Service.
As it continues, we will continue exposing all of it right here on America First.
I'm Bob France in for Dr. G. Stay here.
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I'm Seb Gawker.
Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
Yes, sir, Dr. G. Thank you.
Six minutes before the top of the hour live in Cleveland, Ohio.
Phone lines are open now at 833-33-GORKA.
Let's do that again.
833-33-GORKA.
I want to hear from you about what Jack Smith is about to try to do to the president, what the American left is trying to do to the former president, what the mainstream media, the legacy media, is trying to do to the president.
All of the attention has shifted to Donald Trump, so that nobody's paying attention to that, you know, that little baggie in the White House that apparently the Secret Service could not determine the owner of, despite the label on it that said property of H. Biden.
Oh, wait a minute.
Holding.
Being told that, that might not be accurate.
But it probably was.
I want you to listen to this.
Listen to the cavalier dismissal of such concerns from radical leftists like, you know, the guy behind the spy who shagged me, Eric Swalwell.
Listen to Cut4.
Why do you think the Secret Service doesn't care that cocaine was found at the Biden White House?
Oh, I hope they care.
There's thousands of people who go in and out of the White House.
If you all want to be strip searched, you know, for substances before you go into the White House, that's something that You know, you should work with the Secret Service to see if they can accommodate.
I wonder if Eric Swalwell allowed himself to be strip-searched by Fang Fang when he met her for Little Bang Bang.
Eric Swalwell is not someone to be talking about security.
He literally was sleeping with a communist spy from China, but that's not the point here.
The point is about the cocaine.
You don't have to strip-search people who come into the White House, but you do search people.
They do go through security protocols.
Everybody comes into the White House, except for whom?
Dr. G's been very clear about this.
Except for actual White House staffers and their families.
You know, people like their wives.
Pretty sure Jill Biden doesn't get strip-searched.
Or, excuse me, searched.
Or have to go through security protocols.
Pretty sure that Kamala Harris' husband doesn't.
Pretty sure that Kareem Jean-Pierre and her wife doesn't.
What about sons?
Yeah, sons would apply to that, too.
Pretty sure they don't have to be searched, either.
So who would be crazy enough, insane enough, to try to, when they go visit the White House, you heard Swalwell say that, what tourist is going to go through the White House smuggling in with them a bag of coke, knowing that if they get caught with it, they're probably going to prison for a very long time?
What tourist would do such a thing?
Then, if you did smuggle in a little baggie of coke in your purse if you're a female, or in your pocket if you're a male, or for a briefcase or something like that, what tourist is going to take the bag of coke out and set it down on a desk outside the Situation Room, knowing that prison awaits them?
Who does that?
And the answer is, no one would do that.
The only person who would have cocaine in the White House is somebody who's a cokehead.
And if you can figure out who might not have to go through security protocols, who is also a cokehead, who has access to the West Wing and to the Situation Room area, if you can find somebody that fits that bill, pretty sure you can find the culprit.
So, I'm not a member of the Secret Service, but I'm kind of thinking I've got some advice for them.
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Thank you for joining us on America First with today's very special guest host, Cleveland's own Bob France.
All right, my patriot friends, thank you so much for joining us for America First.
Sitting in for Dr. G is always an honor.
I'm going to be here all week for the good doctor, and I'm very much looking forward to blowing the lid off of this stuff as much as we possibly can, particularly with some explosive stories and developments.
President Trump revealing that he had delivered to him a letter by Jack Smith indicating he's the target of an investigation by the January 6th grand jury investigation that Uh, then we also have the IRS whistleblower is going to testify before the oversight committee tomorrow, which could very well blow the doors off of the Biden crime family as well, especially with corroboration from an FBI whistleblower too.
So there's so much going on and we're going to talk about all of it coming up in about 15 minutes.
We're also going to go inside the attempt to silence.
American parents and American patriots.
We're going to talk with Tiffany Justice, one of the co-founders of Moms for Liberty, which is literally in the crosshairs of far too many left-wing groups, including media, that are branding them as a hate group, an extremist group, domestic extremists or domestic terrorists, whatever it is that they want to call them on that day, for daring to say that, you know, we'll raise our kids the way we want to raise our kids.
You don't get to do that.
You get to teach them algebra.
You get to teach them biology.
You get to teach them English literature.
I'll teach them about their own identities and about what their bodies say to them and what our family values are.
We'll kind of handle that ourselves.
Moms for Liberty is a terrible organization for that, right?
We're going to talk to Tiffany coming up here in about 20 minutes or so.
I welcome you to join us right now.
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I'm not going to pound the January 6 story into the ground, even though I'm livid, that
Jack Smith could be even thinking about indicting President Trump for something having to do
with the January 6 riot at the Capitol.
And it was!
It was a protest that devolved into a riot.
The question is, is why did it devolve into a riot?
Was it an insurrection?
Absolutely not!
It was never intended to overthrow the government.
It got out of hand, and the question is, is why?
Was it because some of President Trump's most diehard supporters took it too far?
Maybe.
But was it because they were goaded into taking it too far by federal agents who were infiltrating that crowd?
Now, I wasn't in that crowd.
I can't say.
Tucker Carlson wasn't in that crowd.
He can't say.
But you know who could possibly say?
The chief of the Capitol Police.
And since they're talking about indicting President Trump for the events of January 6th now, I think it's fair and it's appropriate to look a little bit more closely at what happened that day.
Tucker Carlson, as you know, since he was unceremoniously fired by the cowards at Fox, He did the Russell Brand show, or podcast, or whatever it was, at the beginning of this month.
It's about 11 days ago.
He did this on the 7th, on July 7th.
You may or may not have heard it, but in case you didn't, listen.
If you already did, listen again.
This is very important stuff.
Anyway, six were like, well, yeah, it's bad, but I don't think you're telling the truth about what actually happened.
Shut up!
Racist!
What?
So that's always the key for me.
It's like an infection.
You know it's infected when it hurts.
You press it.
You recoil.
They immediately recoiled when you asked any questions about January 6th.
And that was a tip-off to me.
I mean, I had no thought in my head as I watched this happen on television and in the subsequent weeks that U.S.
law enforcement or military agencies had anything to do with it.
That never crossed my mind.
I never thought there was a false flag or anything like that.
I'm not a conspiracist by temperament.
I never thought that.
And then I interviewed the chief of the Capitol Police, Stephen Sund, in an interview that was never aired on Fox, by the way.
I was fired before it could air.
I'm going to interview him again.
But Stephen Sund was the totally non-political, worked for Nancy Pelosi.
I mean, this was not some right-wing activist.
He was the chief of the Capitol Police on January 6th.
And he said, oh yeah, that crowd was filled with federal agents.
What?
Yes.
Well, he would know, of course, because he was in charge of security at the site.
I could stop it right there, and I will, and make my point.
Whatever happened that day at the Capitol that the left used and has used to try to
again stop Donald Trump from running for president again, from being president, whatever happened
that day, we do know that the incitement to the protest that became a riot, to the violence
that did happen, and there was some, and nobody should ever be excused for that, but the incitement
of it didn't come from President Donald J. Trump.
The incitement that day came from people within the crowd.
Were some of them legitimate Trump supporters who maybe took it too far, possibly?
Were some of them federal agents and planted and inserted into that crowd in order to stir
it up, in order to make it violent, in order to turn it into what it did so that they could
then claim that Trump tried to overthrow the government?
An insurrection and thus is incapable and ineligible from ever running for public office again.
Because that's what I think happened.
Tucker wasn't there, but he interviewed the chief of police, Steven Sund, who was there, and he said there were agents all over, inside that crowd, infiltrating that crowd.
So, the question for you, and I'd love your answer at 833-33-GORKA, Actually, two questions.
Number one is, do you think they will indict Trump, or is this, as I suggested to President Trump's attorney just about 25, 30 minutes ago, is this just to get Joe Biden and his criminal doings and the investigations thereof out of the news cycle so that we will once again focus on the orange man bad?
That's number one.
And number two, how do you think this plays for the President's election chances?
Ron DeSantis, who for a while, in fact for a long while, has been the number two guy in the Republican primary polls, he was number two even before he ran for president or made it official that he was running for president, said over the weekend that one of the reasons why he thinks President Trump's polls are spiking and his are lagging is because of what he called the sympathy support in the polls because of the indictments.
There's no doubt that's true.
After the Alvin Bragg, the overstuffed Alvin indictment, President Trump's numbers skyrocketed because people were livid that they were trying to create an election interference that the President of the United States was trying to potentially try and jail his chief political opponent, making us a banana rip for crying out loud.
That spiked President Trump's poll numbers.
Then they went after him on the documents.
And Mar-a-Lago, they raided Mar-a-Lago, then came the indictment, embarrassing him, walking him into the Miami courtroom.
And guess what?
His polls spiked some more.
So there's truth to it.
It does help Donald Trump, which is why many believe, on the other side, that maybe that's the goal here, is continue to spike Trump in the Republican primary, make sure he's the guy, because he's the guy that we can take down again.
By hook or by crook, legitimately or illegitimately, he's the guy that we can take down again.
What do you think a third indictment will do?
It's going to spike his numbers again.
As a matter of fact, it might lead to just an outright shutdown of the primaries.
He's already planning not to appear at the first debate, August 23rd.
He's already saying that he's going to not have to stand there with a bunch of people
that he's beating by 50 or 60 points and waste his time.
And the numbers might grow.
Who knows?
Maybe there will be some people who drop out as a result of this.
How do you think that a third indictment, this one on the most ridiculous of bases,
how do you think that will impact the race, the poll numbers?
And what about the Democrats?
Like I said before, they're celebrating.
We played for you and you heard and saw The View celebrating and laughing and talking
about what a great day this is that Trump is being indicted again.
They're of course doing the exact opposite.
They're saying, doesn't this third indictment, you've got a guy who's facing potentially three indictments, hundreds of charges, doesn't this make him completely ineligible?
I mean, what Republican would possibly vote for a potential three-time felon?
You know, this is the mindset that they have.
This is the celebration that they have.
Maybe that's the goal here.
Maybe that's what they want to do.
But if you are a Trump supporter, if you are MAGA, and even if you're not, I will tell you this, I'll be honest with you.
I'm always honest with you.
Whenever I sit in for Dr. G, I'm not endorsing anybody in this primary.
I didn't endorse anybody in 2016 either.
I liked Ted Cruz.
He was my guy for most of the 2016 primaries, but I didn't endorse him.
It was just as I watched everything play out, that was who I liked the best.
Then, of course, it became clear that Donald Trump was going to be the nominee.
I jumped on board and I wore the red hat and kind of led the train to the best I could in Northeast Ohio, where I'm from.
So, I'm not going to endorse anybody in this, but I will tell you, I am so, like so many other people, just livid and concerned and worried about my country and about whether or not we're going to remain a free constitutional republic because of what they're doing to the chief rival of the incumbent president in the upcoming election.
What they're doing there makes me want to support him all the more.
And I know I'm not the only one.
If you are not on board the Trump train and you see this kind of stuff as they continue just to stick their fingers in our eyes and tell us, you know, take it, there's nothing you can do about it, doesn't it make you want to do more about it?
Doesn't it want to make you support President Trump all the more?
I know that's the case for a lot of people.
All right, it's 16 minutes past the hour.
I'm Bob Franson for Dr. G. We'll be back on America First.
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Let's get back to the targeting of American citizens as well.
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The Biden administration has been nothing if they haven't been extremists.
And what are the extremists at?
They're extremists at identifying and labeling everyday American citizens as extremists.
It's really quite a thing to behold.
It's one of the reasons why Congressman Jim Jordan, who happens to be the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, as well as the weaponization of government subcommittee under the Judiciary, spent last Wednesday talking to Christopher Wray and asking him all of the questions that, of course, Christopher Wray refused to answer.
And that is, why is our Justice Department, headed up by Merrick Garland and overseeing FBI Director Christopher Wray and the FBI, Why are they targeting everyday American citizens?
One of the citizens that they are targeting is Tiffany Justice.
We're hoping to catch up with her in just a few minutes here.
We're trying to make that connection now.
She is, oh, I'm told she's on, so this is perfect.
I can introduce her and talk to her about this at the same time.
Tiffany Justice is the co-founder of Moms for Liberty.
She is among those being targeted by the Biden administration and the Department of Justice as a domestic extremist, maybe even a domestic terrorist for daring to I'm great, Bob.
Thanks for having me on.
Tiffany, thanks for joining us on America First.
I'm Bob France.
I'm sitting in for Dr. G.
Thanks for coming on.
How are you?
I'm great, Bob.
Thanks for having me on.
Yeah, how crazy that I would think as an American woman that I was free to make decisions for
my own children.
Tiffany, let me ask you, as you watched, and I'm sure you paid attention to it, even if
you didn't watch it start to finish.
When you watch the FBI director, which is Christopher Wray, whose agency, whose bureau
was tasked by his boss, Merrick Garland, the Attorney General, with
Going after parents at school board meetings for daring to question some of the things that are being taught and being indoctrinated into the children's heads.
As one of the co-founders of Moms4Liberty, what did you make of his answers, and did you ever think we would be in a place where they would be discussing you and others as being extremists for daring to question these things?
Yeah, I mean it was shocking to hear Christopher Wright say the things that he said because I had been in Congress testifying before the Constitution and Limited Government Subcommittee of the Judiciary in March about the fact that one of his field offices did in fact contact One of our moms.
So I do know that it happened.
We have evidence that it happened.
We also have Steve Friend, an FBI whistleblower and a dad who said he had spoken at school board meetings but then had been directed to take down license plate numbers in a school board parking lot.
So whether or not Christopher Wray, the director of the FBI, decided that he thought it was a good thing to do or not, he certainly, his office and his bureau was directed to take those steps and they did in fact take those steps.
Tiffany, you know, if you do a quick search, I don't Google, I search in other browsers, but you take a look at Moms4Liberty and the first results that you get are things like this.
Moms4Liberty has aggressive, predatory tactics.
Activist moms spy on each other in culture wars.
Democrat state rep calls Moms4Liberty members a-holes.
And much more.
And then of course there's the SPLC, the Southern Poverty Law Center attacks.
Why do you think concerned mothers like you have drawn so much attention and so much vitriol from the other side simply for wanting to just say, look, we want to have a role in what's going on in the schools?
Yeah, well, I mean, we're in the middle of a cultural revolution happening in America right now.
It's Biden's cultural revolution.
It's probably Obama's cultural revolution, to be honest with you.
It's just playing out now through the Biden term.
And American moms are going to stop a revolution.
American moms will do anything.
Moms will do anything to protect their children.
But I think moms have the power to stop a revolution.
And I think they know that.
I think that there are people that want to radically transform our country.
They are Marxists.
In my opinion, Marxists like to tear down things and destroy.
And we're watching that happen in our schools, much as Mao's Red Guard were told to tear down the four olds, right?
Tear down family and tradition and religion.
And we're seeing that happen right now in our schools.
Primarily, the schools are being used to indoctrinate the kids.
So the moms are standing in defense of the children.
Gavin Newsom, the Biden administration, they very clearly want our children.
You have the assistant director of the Health and Human Services
and going on and spouting about that.
These are untruths.
These are things that are not true.
American moms know that.
And we're going to not, we'll die for our children.
So I think that's why we're such a threat.
We will stand in defense of our kids.
And I think the other thing that you're really seeing is the fact that our message is resonating.
We're getting moms coming across racial lines, across religious lines, across political lines.
Christian moms and Muslim moms and Jewish moms coming together.
Black moms, white moms, Arab moms coming together.
Like, this idea of being a parent and defending your parental rights is bigger than any one political party.
And political parties don't like when they can't control their voters.
So, we're talking to Tiffany Justice, co-founder of Moms for Liberty, an extraordinarily important organization of fierce, patriotic parents who are trying to defend their kids and their country.
If this is a cultural revolution, and I agree with every word you said it is, it takes a counter-revolution to stop that.
Are you at the forefront, and who else?
What does that look like?
What does a counter-revolution that will stop this revolution, this cultural revolution, look like?
It looks like reclaiming and reforming American public education, doing that in a number of different ways.
You know, they're using the schools to indoctrinate the youth, so we need to take the schools back.
There are a number of other institutions that are captured as well, like our media.
We engage with our moms in lots of different ways.
So we endorse in school board races.
We also partner with other organizations and do trainings for moms and dads who want to run for office.
It's going to take people stepping up and serving in political office to be able to change the policies of the United States.
As far as media is concerned, we just have to stand in our truth, take every opportunity, no matter the networks, to get on there and to talk about what's really happening in the schools and make people aware.
You know, the first time I was telling my husband about some of these books that have been found in the libraries, he just couldn't believe it.
And so I had ordered one of the books and I showed him and he said, Tiffany, you need to carry this around everywhere you go.
Because no one believes this is actually happening, right?
Nobody had a problem with drag queens when they were in the bar, but then when they came into the kindergarten classroom, decided to leave glitter in the carpet, everybody has a bit of a problem with that.
And so, it's just coming back to common sense.
I think we reclaim and reform public education, and we just don't cede any ground.
We stand in the truth that America is a beacon of light for the rest of the world.
You know, Tiffany, the former President of the United States, Barack Obama, put out a statement that went all over social media earlier today, and I think maybe he posted it yesterday, in which he talked about book banning, and talked about how books shape the way he views the world, and the idea that someone would ban books Why is it that the radical left, who are trying to take over our children's brains and their minds and indoctrinating them, why do they think that anything that finds its way into a binding and a hard cover must be treated with the veneration of, for example, the Bible?
Why does every book seem to have to be sacred to them?
I don't know.
I mean, and to be honest, you know, kids don't have unfettered access to the internet at school, so Barack Obama should go to his local school district and say, hey guys, are there any internets you don't let kids access to when they're in school?
Why is that, right?
Tiffany Justice, not all heroes wear capes.
It's a familiar phrase.
You're one of them.
Thank you for doing what you're doing with Moms4Liberty.
God bless you and thanks for coming on America First.
you to read this book to your daughter. Sit them down and read about anal rape and incest
to your daughters, and let's see if that's the book that, you know, made you who you
are as a man.
Tiffany Justice, not all heroes wear capes. It's a familiar phrase. You're one of them.
Thank you for doing what you're doing with Moms for Liberty.
God bless you, and thanks for coming on America First. We'll be right back.
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I want to follow up briefly on a little bit about what we were just talking about with Tiffany Justice as an example.
This is one of the more outlandish stories that I've seen in recent weeks, particularly as it pertains to the ongoing war for your child's mind and the war for your child's body, to be quite frank.
A judge, a federal judge, has ruled and upheld the Chico School District's protection of students' gender identity from their parents.
They dismissed this judge.
John Mendez, U.S.
District Court Judge John Mendez, said in a ruling that the authority of the district, Chico Unified School District in California, the authority of that district to safeguard the information, overrode parental rights When it comes to protecting the gender identities of the students from the parents.
Now, my children are out of school while they're at the collegiate level.
My daughter's going to law school in two weeks, and my son's about to be a junior in college, but I remember back when they were in grade school, if my son or daughter had a headache and wanted a Tylenol, The school nurse, they couldn't give it to them, unless they called me and got permission.
Sometimes, written permission, because that's pretty important stuff.
Medicating children without parents' knowledge?
That was unheard of, right?
But now, teachers, counselors, and other influential people in the kids' lives can counsel them to change their sex.
Teach them how to use new, made-up pronouns.
Teach them how to identify themselves without letting mom and dad know.
This will be our little secret.
We'll work on brainwashing the kid into confusion and disorientation to the point where they don't know who they are or what they are.
And then when they realize how popular they become, How much clout they get as they're applauded by their classmates for their courage.
They move to taking steps in their lives that would be irreversible, and mom and dad are none the wiser.
Until, oftentimes, it's far too late.
Chico staff were not forcing students, according to the story, to adopt a different identity, or telling them to keep it secret from their parents, the judge wrote.
But the school officials were just allowing students to choose who they wanted to share their new identities with!
The decision from Mendez in Sacramento, California comes as states across the country are diverging widely in their support of transgender children, which I would submit to you, there just aren't.
You have confused little kids who are being bastardized, who are being abused, quite frankly, psychological abuse and indoctrination for clout, For popularity, for friendship.
That's right, peer pressure.
I want the other kids to like me, and boy, they all seem to be into this whole trans thing.
Me too.
I want friends.
This ruling from this judge, this federal judge, was prompted by a lawsuit filed in January on behalf of the mother of a child in elementary school, represented by the Center for American Liberty, which is led by Harmeet Dhillon.
And earlier this year, The mother's child began identifying as a different gender that was, quote, assigned at birth, the way the Sacramento Bee writes it, and told a school counselor.
The counselor encouraged the child to adopt that new identity, go by different pronouns, told the teachers about it, but did not tell them to let the parents know that there was something serious and important going on with their child.
That is what Moms4Liberty is pushing back against.
That is what every decent parent in America would be pushing back against.
And if you're a mom for liberty, or a dad for liberty, I would love to hear your thoughts on this too.
833-333-GORKA.
That's 833-334-6752.
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Now let's get back to the show with Bob Franz.
You know, the, uh, transing of America is one of the most devastating, um, developments, I think, to come at this country and to come at our families in a couple generations, and I mean literally in several decades.
The transing of America, the intentional brainwashing and indoctrinating and grooming of children into being sexualized beings before they can even Think about being old enough to make decisions like that, to give informed consent.
It is one of the most devastating things to come down.
I did an interview with Dr. Miriam Grossman on my Cleveland program on WHK.
And if you're interested, by the way, my regular program airs from 9 to noon Eastern every day at whkradio.com.
That's my local show in Cleveland.
And I talked to Dr. Miriam Grossman, who wrote a book called Transnation, and it is literally a transnation that we are becoming, and she is a renowned child psychiatrist and adolescent psychiatrist, and she talked about, you know, what she wrote in her book about the intentional The manner in which the American left have taken our schools in order to turn their children into something they're not, for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is profit.
Profit.
You heard that correctly.
Her book is called Lost in Transnation, I beg your pardon, it's Lost in Transnation, A Child Psychiatrist's Guide Out of the Madness, and it's on my Rumble page.
I started a Rumble account like, I don't know, three days ago?
Four days ago?
I just started putting up a few bits that we did and a few interviews that I thought were important.
If you are interested in getting to the bottom of what is being done to trans the kids as a part of this culture war that Tiffany Justice told us about, That would be a good interview to listen to, and it's on my Rumble page.
Look for Always Right Radio on Rumble, and you'll be able to listen to that interview.
It's a good one.
Maybe we'll have her on one day this week as I'm sitting in for Dr. G. I'll be with you on America First for the rest of this week as well.
But it's extraordinarily important.
And what Tiffany Justice, co-founder of Moms for Liberty, had to say, which is so very important, is that all parents are doing is saying, look, There are things that we expect our schools to do for our children, and then there are things we expect our schools to leave the hell alone so that we can do them for our children.
That's kind of the trade-off.
You see, we outsource only small portions of our parenting by sending our kids to the school.
We either don't have the ability or the time to teach algebra to our kids.
We don't have the ability or the time to teach the mechanics of language and grammar rules and maybe American literature to our kids.
We don't have the ability or the time, perhaps, to teach chemistry or physics to our kids, so we outsource those things to experts who can do that.
And that's okay.
But when that physics teacher, or that math teacher, or that English teacher thinks that it's okay to start telling my kid, or even more dangerously, At the primary grade levels where one teacher is teaching all of those subjects, when they think that they should be able to teach my kid to find a new identity, to embrace some sort of confusion because they see a boy pick up a doll and instantly get in their ear and say, it's okay if you like dolls.
Do you really like dolls?
Did you ever think that maybe you like dolls so much that you're maybe a girl?
And this is what's happening.
These are confessions that have been made.
Not by the kids, but by the teachers who go on TikTok and Instagram with little videos telling everybody how they're translating to kids in their classrooms.
When they start doing that, the deal that we had is off.
You don't teach values to my kid.
You don't teach new identities to my kid.
You teach English or grammar or, like I said, or algebra or whatever it is to my kids.
You leave the raising of my child to me.
You leave the questions that my kids might have about identities and about likes and dislikes and who they are and what they are.
You leave that to me because that's a parent's job.
I don't think that's asking too much.
As a matter of fact, I think it is an absolute demand, not an ask.
that we must make that we raise our kids you teach our kids the things we don't have the time or the ability to do that's how this whole transaction worked for the last couple of centuries and it's only like fifteen minutes ago suddenly it's nope I've got 24 kids in my 4th grade classroom and did you know that 14 of them have come out to me as being either gay or trans?
This is what teachers are saying on their TikTok videos.
Now what are the odds that a condition like gender dysphoria would strike, which has previously struck less than 1% of the population, more than half of the kids in a classroom?
Oh my gosh, all of these psychological illnesses, these disorders, these identity disorders all happen at the same time, really?
You don't think that's a contagion, a social contagion?
You don't think that they're feeding off of one another?
You don't think that they're agreeing, let's all change our identities?
And all that confusion does is lead to what?
Suffering.
Lifelong participation in medical studies because this experimentation that they're doing on our kids is exactly that.
They have no idea what the long-term effects are going to be.
What they do know is that teenagers who transition Are 19 times more likely to commit suicide than the general population of that same age range.
19 times more after they transition and realize what they have done to themselves.
And yet Tiffany Justice gets called the extremist.
Tiffany Justice and the Moms for Liberty and guys like me get called the extremists.
We're the domestic terrorists for trying to stop this butchering of both mind and body of America's young children who are lost in transnation.
That's just reality.
Peter is in Atlanta.
He has dialed up 833-33-GORKA.
Thanks for joining us on America First, Peter.
Go right ahead.
Yes, thank you for having me on your program.
It's hard to know where to start, I disagree with you so ferociously.
I am a straight, married, religiously observant That means you're a man.
Hold on, hold on.
We don't need these made-up terms like cisgendered.
You're a male.
That's it.
Period.
It's not a cis male, you're just a man.
That's important to say.
Okay, I'm a man, Bob.
And you know what?
doing your national radio program, my child, who had been exposed to zero social media
and had not met a single transgender person in his life at the age of five years old,
came out to my wife and I as a transgender person, and I will not let you tell the nation
that my child is confused or does not exist.
Your child is confused.
Of course your child exists, but your child is very, very confused.
And if you were any kind of a father, you would deal with that on a psychological level and not allow him to become mutilated.
I'll be back.
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Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
Sing it, Steven.
Six minutes before the top of the hour, Bob France in for Dr. G on America First.
This is a little bit out of sorts.
We don't do this.
It's kind of like an unspoken rule in talk radio, which I've been doing for 26 years now, that when somebody calls, they get one call per day.
You don't get to call back if you don't like how the conversation went.
I'm going to break that unspoken rule right now because our friend Peter from Atlanta has called back.
He was the one we had to talk to right at the very end of the segment there.
And Peter, as long as you're not going to yell at me anymore, we can continue the conversation.
So let's go back to Hotlanta and Peter says his five-year-old is transgender and he's not confused about it.
Peter, go ahead.
When I asked my child between the age of five and six, What it was like for him to live as a boy.
He took a beat and looked at me and said, I don't know.
And then he took another beat.
Hold on one second.
Let me follow up on that part real quick, Peter.
What on earth would possess a father to ask his five-year-old child, what's it like to live like a boy?
Was that out of the blue?
Was that over dinner?
How was school today?
And what's it like to live like a boy?
What brought that on?
He's coming out to me as being a transgender person.
His second answer to me was that as a boy, it was his experience that God opened up the world a little more to him.
I share that story for the benefit of your audience and not so much for you, Bob, because I don't think I'm gonna...
Well, you know, you don't have to get through to me.
You just have to make a little bit of sense to me.
And here's the common sense that I have would tell me that the things that you're saying right now typically don't come out of the mouths of five-year-olds about God opening things up a little bit more to them, about, Dad, I have no idea what it's like to live like a boy.
These are kinds of things that Again, typically don't come out of the mouths of five-year-olds unless they were poured into their heads by other people.
So, tell me what exposure your child had to these kinds of things that would make him say things that are so extraordinarily rare for somebody that extraordinarily young.
We raised him in houses of worship.
That's why he knew about God.
So in houses of worship where God, and I presume that he was taught that God did create man and woman, that God did indeed create them in his image, that God indeed did create everything and told man and woman to go forth and be fruitful and multiply, in those houses of worship he was taught that he didn't have to be a boy?
No, you asked how it is that my son had the language of God.
No, that was part of it.
The other part was the language that I'm not a boy, I'm a girl.
Without any exposure to that whatsoever, he just came to you and said, I'm a girl.
And you said, what is it like to be a boy?
And he said, I don't know.
We read one single story to him about a transgender child.
He immediately looked at my wife, and said, that's my experience.
Why did you read a story to your child about a transgender child?
You see what you've done.
Thank you, Peter, for the call.
We're out of time here for this segment, too.
And that's the last call you get today.
You just pinpointed it.
Thank you for banging the bell.
You just told us how it happened.
We'll be back.
We'll be back.
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So we just had a little quick chat off the air with the team and the question was broached, do you think that guy was real or was he a plant caller?
Was he a fake?
And I've been in radio long enough to generally know when I'm being played and somebody is just trying to troll me or play devil's advocacy or something of that nature.
And I think you can hear the anger and the vitriol and the rage in that guy's voice to know that that was legitimate.
He's been triggered.
He's a leftist beta male who started reading trans books to his kid and then says, my child wasn't exposed to any kind of social media or things that might make him think that he was a boy and not a girl or girl and not a boy.
You literally just gave it away.
What father of a normal five-year-old boy says, come here, son, get up on my knee.
I'm gonna read you a story.
It's a story of a little boy who became a little girl.
And then, shock of all shocks, my son decides maybe he's girl.
This is what indoctrination looks like.
And sadly, it doesn't always come from the online influencers.
Now, they're extraordinarily important, they're extraordinarily dangerous.
The online influencers trying to convince young impressionable kids, maybe not as young as 5, but the 9, the 10, the 11, the 12 year old kids, trying to convince these young kids whose frontal cortex prefrontal lobes have not developed their
their cerebral cortex is not developed enough to Figure things out yet to understand things at a mature
adult level that doesn't happen until they're in their 20s But the bare minimum we say is 18 so these very young kids
are Indoctrinated if you will groomed
Essentially brainwashed into thinking things about themselves that they never would have considered before had
it not been for these people and look Look at that tiktoker who just said that I don't have to be
a boy. I can be a girl They have 79,000 followers. Look how popular I
want popularity to Maybe I'm in.
And as I said before, you have teachers on there bragging about how their classroom's full of 24 kids.
Half of them have come out to them.
The teacher, mind you.
They didn't come to mom and dad.
They didn't come to maybe a therapist or a psychiatrist or a psychologist.
They came to the teacher and said, I really think that I'm gay.
Or I really think that I'm a boy, not a girl.
A girl, not a boy.
I really think I'm non-binary.
Or I really think I'm a cat.
I really don't know what the hell I am, teacher.
Aren't you proud of me?
And the teacher that has an entire classroom of rainbows plastered all over the place, and pride flags, and non-binary, and those weird little symbols for male and female, the arrow, the cross, and then the other arrow, and the other things that they come up with.
And it's just coincidence that all these kids come up to the teacher and say, I'm not what I was supposed to be, or I'm not what I was assigned at birth.
What, are you kidding?
The online influencers.
The teachers.
Sometimes it's not those people.
Sometimes it's worse.
Sometimes it's the parents.
The narcissistic parents seeking clout.
Look how special I am because look how special my child is.
And as soon as you find out that my child is trans, I get the...
Oh my gosh!
So brave!
So courageous!
You should be so proud!
What pronouns can we use when we see your child from now on?
Your child isn't a boy.
Your child isn't a girl.
Your child is just exploring the spectrum.
Oh my gosh!
You're so wonderful!
How did you do it?
It's like, it's like the trans female, which is a dude, And the trans male, which is a chick, transition themselves, then come together and get married.
Maybe with a second or third or a fourth or a fifth person in that little group.
I don't know.
Those things happen too.
But they come together and they start the whole family and they start adopting kids because it's the only way people in those circumstances can have kids.
They can't have kids because they have made themselves infertile.
They have literally sterilized themselves because of their transitions.
So they have to adopt kids.
And they adopt normal kids?
And then suddenly, look at this!
Our three-year-old adopted twins are both, can you believe it?
I mean, what are the odds?
Are both coming out as transgender.
My three-year-old said right from the beginning, no, I'm not a girl, mommy, I'm a boy.
And her twin brother said, no, mommy, I'm not a boy, I'm a girl.
Can you imagine that?
All of us struck with gender dysphoria, a psychological disorder that usually strikes less than 1% of the population.
That just so happened.
Really?
You don't think the kids were watching as you intentionally demonstrated for them that which you wanted them to be?
Stop it.
Just stop it.
It's so dangerous.
And when I said this earlier, when I was talking about my interview with Miriam Grossman, Nineteen times.
Not nineteen percent.
Understand that.
Nineteen percent, we'll round it to twenty percent.
That's one in five, right?
That means there's a twenty percent chance more, a likelihood, of somebody who has gone through the transition process, regretted it, knew what they did was a grave mistake that they can never undo, and kill themselves.
We're not talking about a twenty percent A higher chance of suicide for those individuals over the general population of the same age range.
No, no, no, no, no.
Not 19%.
19 times!
You understand that?
That means twice as much?
No, no, no.
Three times as likely to commit suicide?
No.
Four?
No.
Five?
No.
Ten times as likely?
No.
Not a thousand percent more?
Nineteen times more!
Because they realized what they did was they have destroyed themselves, mind and body.
They have bought into the illusion.
And guess what?
This is and always has been the goal.
Because in that process, the overwhelming majority of them part ways with their families because their families do not support it.
In the rare cases, like I said, where the parents encourage it, that's one thing.
But in most families, you know, parents are blindsided by this.
How are they blindsided?
Because, well, I just told you the story.
The federal judge in California that says schools don't have to tell the parents that the kids are in the process of transitioning and changing their sex.
They don't have to tell!
They don't know what the online influencers are telling their kids.
They don't see which TikToks their kids are watching.
Parents don't know what Instagram videos their kids are watching.
They don't know what the counselors and the other adults in the lives of these kids are telling them.
The parents are blindsided by it, and then they try to stop it, and that drives the kid further away, and then what have you.
What you have is the breakup of the nuclear family.
Who wishes to destroy the nuclear family?
What ideology, what ideologues, want to break up the nuclear family?
You know the answer to this, think about it.
We're not giving a test here, I'm not going to grade you on it, but you know the answer is Marxists.
It is a fundamental precept of Marxism.
The destruction of the nuclear family, the raising of the child by the village, by the schools.
That's why you have Joe Biden and Kamala Harris standing before crowds of people, screaming into microphones, they're not!
They're children.
They're all of our children.
They're not the parents' children.
They're all of our children's children.
That is what their goal is.
It's a part of the Marxist movement to end the capitalist constitutional republic that we have been gifted in this country.
So we get callers like our friend from Atlanta there saying, my five-year-old was raised in a God-fearing household.
Went to houses of worship.
Suddenly just said to me that, you know, Dad, I'm not a boy, I'm a girl.
Well, what would have given him that idea?
Well, I read in this book about being trans.
I don't know how it happened that suddenly he had the idea that he should be trans.
Sometimes parents are the worst enemies in this culture war.
They're the ones who have to be challenged.
They're the ones who have to be defeated more so than anybody else.
Alright, I know I'm monologuing here because this stuff is very, very important.
And I think anybody with kids understands this.
I know Tiffany Justice and the Moms for Liberty, they understand it.
But I will give you your say next.
Going back to the phone calls.
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Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
All right, 20 minutes past the hour.
Bob France live in the ReliefFactor.com studios of AM 1420, The Answer, in Cleveland, Ohio.
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Gonna go back to the phones now.
We're having some great conversations.
We're going to talk to JJ in Orlando, Florida.
JJ, you're on America First.
Bob, in for Dr. G. Fire away.
Thank you, Bob.
Great show.
Yeah, I heard that last call before the news break and that guy talking about reading that book to his son.
I was appalled.
Parents underestimate the power of suggestion and how it plants a seed of doubt.
Just like the snake in the garden said to Eve, did God really say this?
Creates doubt.
And then he lied to her and said, he knows you'd be like him if you ate that apple.
You know, that kind of stuff that manipulate, it starts with a kind of creating doubt.
And why make it like it's an option?
But then it's optional.
And you know, you're right.
Sometimes parents don't realize what their kids pick up and what they start to emulate.
Sometimes they do, and they do it intentionally.
And that's kind of the vibe I got from him.
You know, we're a God-fearing family, we go to church all the time, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But then I sat down, just out of the blue, it's like I could have picked up Animal Song off of the bookshelf.
I could have picked up any number of Dr. Seuss books.
I could have picked up, well, age 5, maybe a little older.
But I could have picked up anything.
I picked up the book that I just happened to go and buy to bring into my home for my child about a child that transitions into the other sex.
Don't tell me that was an accident.
Don't tell me that was just a random book that I happened to pick up and didn't even know what it was about.
Read it to my child and then he transitioned on me.
Most parents, I shouldn't say most, many parents know exactly what they're doing.
And the other thing is they shut a lot of parents down.
The people in authority, social workers, and people in the hospital that are, you know, in on some of this stuff, that believe in it.
They say things like, they have this phrase, well, do you want a, you know, a dead daughter or an alive son?
Because it's usually girls that want to transition to be boys.
They think they're going to be so much happier.
And I rent an apartment to a school teacher and she's talking about how they're on these, you know, the hormone blockers and how they, you know, it's a bridge to surgery.
And I said, there's a 12 year old out west somewhere suing a hospital for a bilateral mastectomy because she didn't feel like she was fully informed.
She had regrets.
Yeah, she wasn't informed.
And there are so many of them that have those regrets.
And sometimes it's after maybe the top surgery, as they like to call it, when they have two healthy functioning organs known as the breasts removed.
And this is before they get to the bottom surgery, which of course is much more extreme.
And then they realize what a terrible mistake it was.
Sometimes they go all the way through both of those before they realize.
And yes, they have regrets.
And yes, then they try to alert other people.
And you know what the worst part about it is?
They didn't make the mistake.
The adults in their lives did.
When children make life-altering decisions like that with the permission of adults, it's not the kids' fault.
They don't know any better.
It's why we don't allow kids or allow people to sign legally binding contracts until they're 18.
It's why we don't allow them to carry a gun, to join the military, to smoke a cigarette, to drink a beer until they're 21, because they're too young to make decisions that are that important.
They're allowed to make a decision like this only with the willing approval of the adults in their lives.
The doctors, the psychiatrists or psychologists if there are any, the school counselors, and yes, the parents.
It's the parents who fail those children.
It's not the children who deserve to pay the price that they pay after they have those regrets.
And they're pushing this at the most awkward Between part child, part adult, trying to make their way in the world.
Who didn't have an awkward time in puberty at some point?
Everyone does.
My 21-year-old daughter is beautiful.
And thank you for the call.
I appreciate you very much, JJ.
My 21-year-old daughter is just beautiful.
She's on her way to law school at the University of Tennessee.
God bless her.
And sometimes we pop out the phone.
Used to be we'd flip through photo albums, right?
But come on, this is a digital age.
We'll flip through the phone or the iPad or the computer or whatever on the big screen.
And we'll flip through old photos and she sees pictures of her.
Lanky, braces, acne, just the gawky 12, 13 year old, you know, as they go through their puberty stages and everybody has that awkward time.
And she's like, oh my God, look at me.
I was such a dork.
And it is a time of feeling dorky and feeling awkward and feeling like I don't want to go through this anymore and I don't know what to do.
I need to find myself or I need to change myself.
And that is the impressionable nature of kids that the groomers feed upon when they try to talk them into this stuff.
And they're successful at it.
Some of the ones that they know and some groomers they don't know but are the online influencers who know exactly what they're doing.
Joe is calling us from Illinois.
Hey, Joe, you're on America First.
Go right ahead.
Hey, Bob.
Yeah, you know what?
30 and 40% of young men don't even know how to approach a young woman today.
And so many families, you know, do this, you know, potential earning, uh, Income type of thing, you know, so these young girls want a 4,000 square foot mini mini mansion.
To do cocktail parties instead of having four or five children in the home.
Well, you know, yeah, there's something to that.
Thank you for the call, Joe.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, families are not always what they once were, and sometimes the mentality of kids kind of bleeds over from their parents and the way they did things, and you're right.
Sometimes they value things other than building a family and having a normal childhood or having children that they can raise in a normal childhood with, again, the goal of what?
Propagating the species.
Replicating the family.
The culture.
A mother and a father getting married and staying together, not splitting and divorcing and creating single parent households.
Raising children with the same values and in the same image so that they will indeed model that behavior and go off and find their mate and then marry.
And that's how it's supposed to be.
But you're right.
There is indeed a cultural effort to break that up.
to tell mothers or rather to tell women you don't need to be mothers and of
course nobody's saying you have to have children in a marriage but that
has been again the basis the foundation the bedrock of our civilization is
that nuclear family with a father and a mother and they stay together they have
children and they raise them in that same mindset.
So that's what's being attacked right now.
Hey, I'm Bob France.
I'm in for Dr. G. We've got another 31 minutes together, so I invite you to join us at 833-33-GORKA,
833-334-6752, and we'll be back on America First.
Thanks for joining us.
Thanks for having me.
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Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
So it's 27 minutes before the top of the hour, live in Cleveland, Ohio, TheReliefFactor.com studios.
Appreciate you being with us.
I want to hit it again, my Rumble channel, which I just started, so it's got 72 people following it.
I've only posted four videos, I believe.
One of them is an interview I did with Dr. Miriam Grossman.
I want to recommend that to you.
Go to Rumble.
It's about 20 minutes.
She's a renowned child psychiatrist and author, and she knows that children are in extreme danger because of the transing of America.
Her book is called Lost in Transnation, A Child Psychiatrist's Guide Out of the Madness.
It's a way for parents to recognize the dangers and recognize the signs, if they are indeed concerned parents, of what's being done to their kids at school, what's being done to their kids because of online influences and so forth.
I highly recommend you read that book and listen to that interview.
It's on my Rumble channel.
Look for Always Right Radio.
Bob, thank you for being so unapologetic, for being right.
Thank you very much.
We're going to go to Georgia on line four.
Excuse me, Steve, welcome to America First.
Fire away.
Bob, thank you for being so unapologetic, for being right.
Thank you very much.
Now, we parents and grandparents get access to our children and their grandchildren before
anybody else does.
Hello?
Bring up a child in the way he should go, and when he's older he won't depart from it.
So, and the opposite is also true.
Look at, look at Obama.
Anyway, so when I go to my grandparent, my grandkids' house this weekend, they are gonna hear it from me again until they say it to me before, right when I walk up the steps, which is, Who loves you more than anybody else?
The answer?
God.
Who's next?
My parents.
And what if somebody out there, no matter who they may be, tells you things that are in opposition to what we taught you?
I'm not to pay any attention.
I'm to not go along.
And what are you going to do if they tell you not to tell Mommy and Daddy about what it is?
We're going to record it, if we can, and play it back for you as soon as we can.
And you know, we we have to say Steve, if I may, there's one pause that I would insert here, and I thank you so much for your phone call.
Keep listening.
I want to address what you just said, though.
In an ideal, perfect scenario, yes, the children will listen to exactly what mommy and daddy say.
They will know who loved them the best.
They know who's looking out for them the best.
They will walk away from this threat.
They will embrace this, and so forth, in a perfect world.
But we also know that we don't live in a perfect world, and children, they make mistakes.
And sometimes a child is going to be influenced more by peers than by what their parents told them.
And if they say, no, my mom said not to go there, not to do that, not to say that, uh, what are you?
Some kind of mommy's boy, a big baby.
And then it's okay, let's go.
That's reality.
So do we want to teach our children, right?
Yes.
Do we know that they will always follow our guidance?
No, we don't.
And that's where it becomes so important for parents.
I'm not trying to pretend I'm some father of the year or some trained psychologist or therapist or expert in child rearing, but that's where it's crucial for parents to keep their eye on everything that is influencing their kids.
I'm telling you, if you don't know who the influencers are at school over your kids, not just their teachers, the influencers, peers.
And faculty, if you don't know who is influencing your kids online, if you don't know who is influencing your kids in their social lives, then I promise you who is not influencing your kids?
You!
You understand that?
That's important.
You have to recognize that they're not always going to do what we say, and when we say, and we're not going to know the threats unless we're watching very, very closely.
Now does that mean you have to helicopter all the time?
No.
But it does mean if you're not alert to what your kids are being taught, what your kids are being exposed to, and quite frankly indoctrinated with, you're going to lose them.
And right now, there are millions of parents wondering, how did I lose my child?
My child that I raised so carefully and closely turned teenager and suddenly became enamored with this different lifestyle.
They insist they're not a boy or a girl, they're non-binary, or they're, you know, two-spirited, or one of these other things.
They go off to college, they come back unrecognizable.
Can't even talk to them over Thanksgiving dinner when they come home from school.
Can't talk to them about, you know, a church.
They don't go to church anyway.
They lost them somewhere along the way.
That's what's happening.
Millions of parents right now are experiencing that, I swear to you.
It's one of the reasons, I kid you not, why a little over four years ago, when my daughter was graduating high school, She applied to Hillsdale College.
And just, what are we, it's July now, so just two and a half months ago, my daughter walked that stage with a degree from Hillsdale College.
I was not going to lose my daughter.
I was not going to let that happen.
And she had the right experience.
That's not to say you have to put your kid in Hillsdale or they're not going to succeed, but you better be aware of what influences they have in their lives.
Because if you're not aware, then you're not one of those influencers.
And you're going to regret it down the road.
All right.
Take your time out here.
I want to take more phone calls.
If you are on hold, stay there.
If you're not on hold, get there.
We're coming to you.
Bob Prance in for Dr. G right here on America First.
you you
you I'm Seb Gorka.
Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
Oh Okay, 17 minutes before the top of the hour and the end of the broadcast.
Fear not, however, I have been blessed to be asked to sit in for Dr. G again tomorrow, and in fact the rest of the week, so we'll continue these great conversations then if we don't get them all done by the end of this broadcast, and we probably will not.
I want to go to, the phone lines still are open at 833-33-GORKA.
I want to go to Cleveland.
That's where I am.
My neck of the woods.
This is a short call.
A local call.
Mike in Cleveland.
You're on America First.
Bob Franson for Dr. G. Hey, Mike.
Fire away.
Hi, Bob.
How are you doing?
Doing wonderfully.
Thank you.
Just a quick question for you.
How long do you think it's going to take before Child Protective Services comes and tries to take a kid away from their parents for defending them against these folks?
Yesterday.
It's already being done.
It's already being done.
Not in every state.
In Washington, the state of Washington, they passed a bill a month ago or so, I think it was, or at least it was out of one of their houses and it's awaiting the other one and it's going to go to the governor.
It may be all the way there now.
If your child runs away, departs their home because they want to transition, or something radical like that, and you disagree, and your child, in a fit of anger or calculation, runs away, The state will house them, care for them, and assist them in their transition, and they do not, according to this bill, which I think might be a law now, they do not have to tell you where they are.
The state literally takes custody of the kids in lieu of you, and they raise them so that they can provide what they call gender-affirming care, which of course is butchery of mind and body.
But that is already happening in Washington, and there's something very similar I wanna say the whole state of California.
It might not be, it might be a city, it might be San Francisco or some other very left-wing city, but there is a... I believe in California, if not the whole state, same thing applies.
That kids can flee their homes, go to the custody of the state, live in a...
What's the word I'm looking for?
Not an adoptive home, a foster home.
And the state will take care of them and the state will encourage them and assist them
and even pay for them for their quote-unquote gender-affirming care.
So it's already happening, my friend, and it's only a matter of time before it starts
to spread to more and more states if we don't nip this in the bud, which is why I'm doing
what I'm doing on national radio right now.
Yeah.
Another reason to pass Issue 1.
Yeah, right.
Ohio Issue 1 is enormously...
Thanks for the call, Mike.
enormously important.
And you know what?
Why should I not talk about it?
Ohio Issue 1 is about the Ohio Constitution, and it's about raising the threshold to change the Ohio Constitution from 50% plus one voter to 60% in order to stop it from being amended by out-of-state special interests, so since there are Postcards and letters and messages coming from all over the country to people in Ohio, encouraging them to vote no on that issue, that it makes it a national subject as far as I'm concerned, so why the hell not talk about it on national radio, on America First?
I kid you not.
Left-wing radical groups, Black Lives Matter, Communist Party USA, Democratic Socialists of America, and many others, Planned Parenthood, pumping millions of dollars into Ohio to try to use Ohio strategically as a kind of a bellwether to start making the country regret reversing Roe vs. Wade.
Because what it did, as you know, is it kicked the decision on what abortion restrictions you did or did not want to have back to the states.
And if they can use Ohio as a, well, it used to be a heartbeat bill and a heartbeat law in the state of Ohio.
Now it's abortion on demand up until the moment of birth, no matter how far along in the gestation, for any reason.
Health of the mother doesn't matter.
We're going to make them pay.
They're going to put one of those in the Ohio Constitution.
They're going to enshrine that into the Constitution if we don't stop it by raising that threshold to make sure that there is a supermajority required there.
So it's going on in Ohio.
Funds are coming in from around the country.
And yeah, it's going on in other states as well.
So why not?
Mike, thank you for that call.
Let's go down to Florida.
Della, you are on America First.
Bob Frantz sitting in.
It looks like I think we do not have that line working right now, so I'll try to reconnect those.
If you would like to get through, we'll try to make it happen at 833-33-GORKA.
That's 833-33-GORKA.
I want to hit another point, going back to the trans issue that the previous caller who got through was talking about.
What they are doing to deny parental rights defies virtually everything, not just in our Constitution and our rights to raise our children as we see fit.
It's in the Constitution and it's also, quite frankly, in our codes of law.
It also defies everything that our culture was founded upon.
People have asked me in the past, because I've given speeches at events about this issue.
Many of them, in fact.
And I've talked about it on my local program in Cleveland, Ohio, a lot, too.
And people wonder why you're so passionate about this.
First of all, I used to be an educator.
It was a big, big part of my life before I got into radio.
I taught school 7th graders at that vulnerable, awkward age, by the way, and then a little bit of high school before I decided to transition into broadcasting.
And so I have a little bit of knowledge and a little bit of experience and a little bit of an affinity for young kids and what they go through.
I also, of course, have two children.
I just told you about them.
One of them is 21, the other one is 20, just turned 20, and I cannot fathom turning The culture that we were blessed with, that we were gifted essentially, upside down so that when it's time for them to raise their kids, they have to compete with all of these forces to allow their children to grow up naturally and normally through their states of confusion, through their states of, I'm not sure what I want to be with my life.
And then, you know, because those are the kinds of things that are natural and normal.
said something on his program that kind of went viral about a month ago or so, maybe a couple months ago I guess now, but he said something to the effect of telling children they can be whatever they want to be and will support it and even start the puberty blockers and the cross-sex hormones and then schedule you for the surgeries and all of this other stuff.
Telling kids they can be whatever they want.
Would have been pretty doggone dangerous, he said, when I was a kid.
Because when I was that age, I wanted to be a pirate.
Thank God my parents didn't schedule me for eye removal and peg leg surgery.
Because that's what they're doing today!
I'm not a boy, I want to be a girl.
Okay, let's schedule you for girl surgery.
And vice versa.
That's why this matters.
It's not the legacy I want to leave.
I do not want to be the generation of parents that allowed childhood to slip away.
And then thus, essentially condemned future America to that type of a culture.
I do not want that to be my legacy when I go to my grave.
I'll be right back.
Thanks.
Bye.
you you
you I'm Seb Gorka.
Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
Okay, final segment of the broadcast on America First.
I really appreciate everybody being here today.
We're going to be back tomorrow, and I look forward to more great conversations.
Let's squeeze a few more phone calls in here now if we've got these phones working and ready to rock.
Let's talk to, um, how about Mike up in Detroit?
Mike, welcome to America First.
Bob France in for Dr. G. Let's get it going, my friend.
What's on your mind?
Oh yeah, yeah, you're exactly right.
I mean this one previous caller, he's a perfect example of the kind of emotional instability of that kind of gender-bending alphabet soup constituency of the Democratic Party, you know.
I worked in the medical field for 30 years and I can tell you that gender identity disorder and gender dysphoria, these are made-up diagnosis.
They're not a diagnosis that would indicate radical gender reassignment surgery, bilateral vasectomy or chemo hormonal therapy or whatever, if the
idea is, and you mentioned this earlier, to reduce the likelihood of clinical depression, anxiety
disorders, or suicidal ideation, as you said, it's all increased massively. I mean this is medical
malpractice.
malpractice on a massive scale.
And I have to wonder, the people I work with would not associate themselves with this kind
of thing.
And I wonder, did they forget about the Hippocratic Oath?
Or is it just money?
You know, what's going on?
They rewrote it.
They rewrote it.
They rewrote the Hippocratic Oath.
It no longer says, first do no harm.
So it's kind of like what they did with the COVID jabs, those poison darts they made everybody take.
They changed the definition of vaccine to instead of inoculating you so you're not infected by said virus, they changed it to, well, you may get it, but the symptoms and the results will not be so severe.
So that's what they did.
They changed the Hippocratic Oath because otherwise you're exactly right.
They should lose their license.
And quite frankly, anybody, I agree with Elon Musk on this.
Anybody who's in the medical profession who performs a surgical procedure and removes healthy organs from someone's body, mind you, healthy.
We're not talking about mastectomies because of breast cancer.
We're not talking about testicle removal because of testicular cancer.
We're talking about healthy organs if they're removed by doctors solely for, I don't know, I would probably call it, what's the term that I'm looking for?
The procedure for just appearances.
I can't remember the word I'm looking for now.
But if you're doing it simply for appearances, because it makes you feel better, then it is not necessarily necessary medically.
Cosmetic.
Thank you.
That's the word.
Cosmetic surgery.
That's what that is to me.
That's not gender affirming care.
That's cosmetic surgery that mutilates the body and it mutilates the mind.
And I think these people should not only lose their licenses, my friend, they should go to prison.
That's how I feel about it.
Thank you for the call.
God bless you.
Appreciate your call from up there in Detroit.
That's going to be all the time I've got.
If I try to take another call, I'm only going to have about 20 seconds for you.
So we're going to wrap it up here.
I will say, please...
If you're interested in some of the things that you heard, you want to communicate with me off the air, you can find me, first of all, in Cleveland on WHKRadio.com, 9 to noon weekdays, Monday through Friday.
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I look forward to talking to you tomorrow once again on America First.
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