Kash Patel LIVE: Taking on the Government Gangsters
|
Time
Text
♪♪ ♪♪
Welcome to America First with our very special guest host in studio, Kash Patel.
Hey everybody, Gorka Groupies.
Welcome to the Seb Gorka Show.
Seb is out on a much needed vacation and as he posted on Truth Social, a great photo with him and his wife, and a quote that says he married up.
Seb, I gotta agree you did.
As we all should aspire to.
I'm glad you're on a much needed vacation, my friend.
Your show is one of the few shows that has been keeping truth alive in this country at one of its most consequential periods of history.
I was thinking when I got asked to guest host, what in the world can I talk about?
It's not as if the national security apparatus is completely failing this nation.
It's not as if there's a two-tier system of justice.
It's not as if the media is reporting falsely on every single issue related to President Donald J. Trump.
It's not as if Joe Biden is taking tumbles up the steps to Air Force One.
It's not as if Joe Biden is nibbling on the ears of children.
It's not as... Oh, wait.
All those things are.
It's not a what if.
Wonder where we should start.
I have an idea.
How about narcotics?
How about the fact that not once, not twice, but thrice, narcotics have been found at the White House during the Joe Biden administration.
Yes, you heard me correctly.
I'll get to the cocaine cowboy saga.
But the Secret Service has now divulged that there were two bags of marijuana found on White House grounds before the cocaine incident ever occurred.
And no one reported on it.
Can you just imagine if Kash Patel and Seb Gorka were just smoking a spliff and having a dime bag session at the White House during the Trump administration?
What would happen?
But fast forward to the two-tier system of justice that we've all been living under these lone six, seven, eight years.
And it gets buried by the media and nothing happens by the DOJ.
And then the cocaine cowboy incident comes to fruition.
And I want to talk about this a little.
I know everybody's talked about it, but I really want to hammer home a couple of serious points and try to bring in some levity.
Like my boss, Donald J. Trump knows how to do so well.
Cocaine was found at the White House.
First, it was found in the library.
Then, it moved across the way to the room of silverware.
Then, it was... Nope, nope, nope.
It was by the door of the West Wing.
How is it that this singular bag of cocaine is the most traversed bag of narcotics in U.S.
narco-trafficking history?
Or is it that the Biden White House has gotten a Secret Service leadership?
And let's make a distinction here.
Not the everyday Secret Service agents that are doing the job and the mission they signed up for.
The leadership.
Are they lying to us?
Are we to believe?
That they didn't know where the cocaine was?
Are we to believe that the most heavily secured and fortified compound in the United States of America, and the world for that matter, doesn't know how to track down a criminal on its premises?
Are we to believe that every square inch of this compound is not covered in cameras, and security officials, and Secret Service, and law enforcement, and oh by the way, hundreds of law-abiding citizens?
Why do I bring this up?
Because the White House is set to announce that the cocaine cowboy saga has come to an end and there is no culprit.
They're going to tell you it was Professor Plum in the library with Colonel Mustard in the study and some other fake news disinformation campaign is going to kick in.
And I, for one, am furious at the media For defending the conduct of having narcotics at the White House.
Oh, it wasn't that much.
How dare you accuse Hunter Biden, an admitted crack addict felon, of having cocaine on the White House grounds?
Okay, well, let's make it really simple.
How come you don't put out a universal statement through your lawyer that you've never, not one time, brought narcotics onto the compound of the White House?
Pretty simple.
You got a fancy attorney.
I know him.
He's a brilliant lawyer.
Just have the statement put out.
You, I, Hunter Biden, have never brought narcotics onto the compound of the White House.
It would make this story so easy.
But you haven't done that.
Why?
Furthermore, you are in the midst of a sweetheart plea deal.
That takes us back to the two-tier system of justice.
We're not going to get into right now It's the amount of felonies you hurdled over because of daddy's job at 1600 Pennsylvania.
What I want to focus on is, as a former federal prosecutor and public defender, I remember if my client, who had pled guilty to a plea agreement, and it was uncovered during the sentencing phase, as we call it, in the lead up to sentencing, that he had possibly committed more crimes, the Department of Justice wouldn't let me sentence that individual.
We would delay that sentencing immediately.
And so whether we're talking about Hunter Biden and the cocaine saga and the cover up by the Secret Service leadership, who, by the way, are we really to believe 25 year veterans of the Secret Service couldn't come up with a suspect for the cocaine found at the White House?
They couldn't come up with DNA or fingerprinting testing?
And then they throw you this this reckless pretext that, oh, cocaine's a misdemeanor in Washington, D.C.?
No, no, no.
The White House is a federal military base governed by federal law.
Cocaine possession is a felony in the federal judicial system.
That means whoever's cocaine it was and whoever brought it on to the White House is guilty of a felony.
And whether it was Hunter Biden or somebody else that they're going to blame, or now apparently they're not going to blame anyone at all and just motor past this, we're back to Hunter Biden's sentencing and plea agreement that's coming up in the next couple of weeks here.
And we're to believe that with these whistleblowers coming forward, that Hunter Biden didn't commit any other crimes.
We're supposed to allow the Department of Justice to break its precedent and say we're closing these investigations before individuals who have credible material come forward?
I have never seen a Department of Justice, oh no wait, I have.
This Department of Justice under Merrick Garland.
This FBI under Chris Wray.
And Chris Wray testified last week before Congress.
And I don't know who told more lies.
The Democrats with their radical left-wing agenda and disinformation campaign by the likes of Sheila Jackson Lee and Representative Dan Goldman, who I referred for criminal prosecution for his baseless attacks of me and whistleblowers on Twitter.
We'll get to that later with Jesse Binal.
Or Chris Wray.
And I've said, listen, a FBI without a brave, courageous, independent leader is the death knell of this nation.
And look what we have.
We have a public sphere that has an approval rating of the FBI that sits near the levels of Congress.
That's telling you a third of Americans approve of what you're doing.
That means two thirds of Americans disapprove of what you are doing at the FBI.
And Chris Wray has the gall to come into the well of Congress, swear an oath, and say he never retaliated against whistleblowers?
That he isn't defending the Biden crime syndicate?
That he isn't taking instructions from Merrick Garland and diluting the justice system with Jack Smith's bogus, baseless probe of President Donald J. Trump?
Wake up!
The media can only cover for you for so long.
And I think we're coming to an inflection point.
I think we're coming to the point in history where you see everyday Americans starting to pay more and more attention.
Whether it's the cocaine cowboy saga, Whether it's Chris Wray's testimony, whether it's brave whistleblowers coming up, and then the cover-up by Karine Jean-Pierre from the well of the White House with her sidekick, this guy Kirby, who's on the TV here right now saying, we looked at everything!
500 suspects and we couldn't find a single one of them.
By the way, remember, this guy Kirby is the one who told you as a spokesperson for the White House that he just didn't see the disaster in the Afghan withdrawal plan.
That's who's telling us that the cocaine saga is over.
And Karine Jean-Pierre, who, I don't know how many lies she told us.
I can't tell her if she's told more lies or Chris Wray or Joe Biden.
But I don't want it to be all negative.
During the show, we're going to talk to some brave guests.
We're going to have John Solomon, Devin Nunes, and Jesse Binalong.
Great investigative reporting, a tremendous leader in Congress, and one of the best attorneys in America.
We've got a jam-packed show for you.
Call in with questions.
I'm going to stay live in the intermission, talk to people on Rumble.
We're going to have a blast today.
Seb, thank you for letting me guest host, and let's see how many FCC violations I can rack up in two hours.
We'll be right back on the other side of the break, everybody.
We'll be right back.
What are they doing?
Once again, you seem to be smashing records for a guest host, man.
We've got over 1,200 people watching live right now.
Can we tell them to ask questions and stuff via Rumble, too?
Totally, yeah.
I can keep an eye on that.
What have they got so far?
Let me see.
Someone made a similar joke that I said the other day.
Robbity Bob, his regular chat says, more white than house.
I haven't heard that, that's a good one, I haven't heard that one.
Oh my god.
That's great.
How long is the next segment?
Nine minutes.
You want me to just knock this commercial out of the way in the beginning of that one?
And then we'll get to, and then John's in the segment after that?
He's the segment after the segment after that.
Is that cool if we just do the read-in and then I'll do the rest of my spiel and then we'll jump in?
But what about Rumble?
Can I tell people on Rumble to use a lot of emojis and express your interest vociferously through the power of emojis and emoticons?
Let's have a meme competition, Rumble.
If you go to my Truth Social account and Seb Gorka's Truth Social account, you will see a brave American in a cowboy hat with a beautiful woman standing next to him.
And as Seb said, he married up on that quote.
But let's have a, let's have a meme competition of me and Seb.
Yes, I will be the shorter one.
I got it.
But let's see how much fun we can have and let's see what we should call a Seb and Cash pairing on Truth Social.
Let's have a lot of fun.
And the winner of the graphic, I'll tell you this right now, we'll get a free merch shipment from the Cash Foundation.
So, uh, fire away Rumble.
Let's see what you got.
Let's get these meme makers going.
All right.
Good stuff.
I've posted in chat for them to follow you on True Social at Cash.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Seb always says he's jealous of a very simple and yet straightforward handle.
You're listening to him.
At Cash.
I don't know who Andy Bakes called.
I wonder what he wants.
Tootman.
All right.
We can call him.
That'll be fun.
He's a good guy.
Hey, are there any topics you guys want me to cover?
I mean, I've got some stuff, but anything you guys think is pressing?
I say just do whatever you want.
Yeah.
It'll come off better.
Well, things that you're more likely, you know what I mean?
That you want to talk about, it'll just come off better.
Okay.
Yeah, I've got a lot with the guests.
So I'll try to just preview some of that after I read this, uh, this advertisement.
Advertisement, as Seb says.
Did he say advertisement?
What do you say, advertisement?
By the way, to make this a little easier, Cash, we can turn on a little screen right here so you can see us.
Oh, yeah.
There you go.
Awesome.
Just to make sure you guys are awake.
Keep an eye on us.
I think Seb pays you guys to go to sleep in there.
Only on Fridays.
Hey, do you shoot Larry's show from here?
Yes, I do.
Right across the set from you.
Right across.
That big old table.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
That cheeky SOB.
He never told me.
That's the graphic that you see on the monitor.
That's his background.
You just switch the cameras around.
That is correct.
Look at that.
I'm just breaking all sorts of secrets here today.
Oh, Rumbler's commenting, chiming in.
Chunk24 says, Pence is not concerned with America.
Start with that.
It's referencing that kill shot from the Tucker summit.
Oh, that's, I mean, I've seen kill shots.
That was a, whoa.
He was so ticked off.
We'll get into that.
That's great.
That's so good.
15 seconds.
Oh man, that's good.
You're listening to America First with guest host Kash Patel, former acting director of National Intelligence.
Thanks.
Hey everybody, welcome back to the Seb Gorka Show.
I'm Kash Patel, guest hosting, and I just wanted to read you a message from one of our friends over at the Association of Mature American Citizens.
There's an organization that still backs Obamacare, gun control, and extreme transgender policies that endanger our kids.
They claim to be bipartisan, but last year, 95% of their donations went to Democrats.
The AARP doesn't represent the values of American seniors.
Fortunately, there's a conservative alternative.
AMAC, the Association of Mature American Citizens, proudly champions Americans' right to free speech, religious liberty, and the Second Amendment.
AMAC defends parents' rights to protect their children and is fighting to restore America's election integrity.
With more than two million members nationwide, AMAC is pro-faith, pro-family, and pro-freedom.
I'm proud to be an AMAC member, and I encourage you to join today for their 2-to-1 promotion.
$16 will now get you a 2-year membership.
Let's send AARP a strong message that they don't represent conservative seniors.
Join AMAC today at amac.us forward slash Gorka.
That's A-M-A-C dot U-S forward slash Gorka.
G-O-R-K-A.
Portions of America First are brought to you in part by AMAC, the Association of Mature American Citizens.
I hope to be a mature American citizen someday, but that day's not today.
We got a message from one of our friends on the Rumble chat about sort of the, maybe it was Mike Pence bending the knee or just Buckling his knees or maybe it was a kill shot.
Let's talk about a little politico.
You and everyone listening to this program saw and heard what happened over the weekend when a number of candidates were interviewed who are running for president.
And of course you saw President Trump's dominating speech in South Florida leveling the playing field.
There's make no mistake about it.
But it's worth getting into some of the folks behind the curtain who are never going to get on stage.
Let's start with Mike Pence.
I know Vice President Mike Pence.
I served under the Trump administration.
He's a very nice man.
But he just doesn't have the wasta, the political fortitude, nor the policies to be the next commander-in-chief.
And in sum, you need look no further than Tucker Carlson's interview with the former vice president.
When he, like I, have berated America and Congress for just signing over blank check after blank check to the Ukrainians and bringing us on the precipice of war, a conversation we'll have later.
But I want to talk about Mike Pence just looking a little more.
When Tucker pressed him on Basically saying, what about Americans?
If you saw the look on Mike Pence's face, you didn't even need to hear his answer following that.
But basically he said, Oh, Americans and American cities are not my concern.
Okay.
You're allowed to have that position, Mr. Vice president, but you're not allowed to have the position of the presidency.
If you don't care about Americans and American cities and the crime that is spiking in these cities, there's Mike Pence.
Responding to the question, it's not a lie.
You can judge for yourself.
Look, there were a lot of other folks there that spoke on stage and were interviewed by Tucker Carlson, and I think some of them are great Americans.
I just think none of them have a chance at defeating Donald J. Trump, who's unleashing strategies and policies on his Agenda 47 plan that you can see on Truth Social every day, videos and policy statements weekly.
His latest one was even mentioned by the glorious New York Times.
President Trump's plan to defeat the deep state.
Is that an admission by the New York Times that there is a deep state?
That might be breaking news in and of itself.
Of course, there is a deep state.
It's what we have been fighting against since Donald Trump came down the escalator.
It's what is the genesis of my book, Government Gangsters, which I'll get into a little later with one of our guests.
It's what is the driving force behind what I believe is one of President Trump's strongest, most salient political talking points, that there is a two-tier system of justice operated by none other than this deep state.
And President Trump has always taught me two things.
One, it's helpful to identify the problem.
But two, what's the solution?
It's interesting that the New York Times article goes on to just castigate President Trump for daring to defeat the deep state and mocking its existence as if it doesn't exist.
And if you just recall how we opened this show with the cocaine cowboy saga, if a bag of cocaine was found in a Donald Trump White House, somebody would be in prison.
It's that simple.
And they should be.
And if you're going to tell me, a guy who worked at the White House as Deputy Assistant President Trump, as head of his counterterrorism programs, that you can just walk narcotics onto the compound, you are an absolute both-laced liar, or the dumbest person on planet Earth.
Or you may work for the New York Times.
I guess there's a third option.
But the Deep State could not exist.
And I'm glad the New York Times wrote this article, because it finally brings to fruition what we've been working on for so long.
There is no Deep State in government without a corrupt, conspiratorial media.
Legacy media.
I'm talking about the Times, the Washington Post, CNN, Politico, some of whom I'm suing for defamation.
No big deal.
But they mercilessly carry the weight of this administration's false disinformation campaigns.
What do I mean?
Let's go back to Vice President Pence and his position on the Ukraine.
Why are we sending cluster bombs to the Ukrainian government?
Does anyone listening know what cluster bombs are?
Of course you do.
They are a weapon of war.
If we're not at war, why are we sending weapons of war?
If we're not at war, why are we giving them surface-to-air missile systems?
If we're not at war, why are we giving them defense batteries?
If we're not at war, why are we giving them millions of rounds of ammunition?
And if we're not at war, why are we using American contractors on the ground in the Ukraine to train the Ukrainian Armed Forces on how to operate this machinery, equipment, and weaponry?
It's too cute by a half for me.
That issue is for another day.
But the fact remains that the media is carrying the water by saying we're not at war.
While we may not be uniformed military service members at war, this country is at war in the Ukrainian conflict because we've put $120 billion there.
And we've sent cluster bombs there.
Oh, by the way, cluster bombs, which the United Nations declared so gruesome that they are to never be used again.
And do you know where we sit now?
Vladimir Putin has just come out and said, maybe I'll use cluster bombs.
Maybe I'll... and that guy actually would do it.
So now you've given one of the biggest criminals on planet Earth, one of the biggest thugs, Vladimir Putin, A propaganda machine in which he's going to say, I am using cluster bombs because you said and you the United States provided them to the Ukrainians first.
Just think about that for a moment in all seriousness.
You have an individual who has one of the largest supplies of nuclear weapons on earth.
Now, defending his position because America sent cluster bombs.
Joe Biden sent cluster bombs.
And you know who's responsible for this more than the Defense Department and the Biden administration?
The media.
The media running a disinformation campaign that this is good for America and the world.
It is not good to deplete U.S.
defense posture to the point where we don't have ammunition and arms around the world.
That's where they have left us.
That's where Mark Milley, Lloyd Austin, and President Joe Biden have left America.
Our positions around the world are weakened because we have sent years of munitions, weaponry, and machinery to the Ukraine and left ourselves vulnerable.
That is the reality of a failed national security state.
Thanks.
I'm Kash Patel.
Pinch-hitting for Seb Gorka.
Marco, we'll see you on the other side of this break.
Oh, my buddy texted me.
He said, how many PBRs would it take for Cash to take Sheila on a date?
I saw that earlier in the Rumble chat.
Sheila Jackson Lee?
I guess.
I don't know.
Well, if we're talking Sheila Jackson Lee, I don't think they produce enough PBR in the brewery for me to do that.
Plus, also, I think my girlfriend would get upset.
But that's a different, you know, we'll talk about that later.
Actually, it was my buddy Rhino, shout out, who I play hockey with.
That's pretty funny, actually.
Nice.
What else we got on the Rumble Chats?
TMCB76, that's a regular in the chat, says, quote, on the Pence subject, Pence hides behind the Constitution, the same document that delegates him, the vice president, with the only authority to demand states get their votes
together before certifying, and he wouldn't do it. Coward. Pence is just going to lose
for so many reasons.
He never had a chance, but that moment, though that's not my concern, killed any chance he may
have had in any parallel universe. Yeah, I think like, not that there's anybody who has a chance,
but in a distant number two, I think Vivek is probably the only guy that's mounting a
smart campaign with sound policies.
And I'll admit, I know him.
We're friends.
I've known him for a while.
But at least the guy's come.
I mean, Ron DeSantis, the guy who's actually governor, hasn't put forth any policy and he keeps knocking Trump for not building the border wall.
I'm like, dude, what are you talking about?
No, I think you're right.
the announcer of VEC is going to take votes from DeSantis, especially when the debate
starts.
Oh yeah.
Because he really is the actual more of a Trump alternative.
You know what I mean?
He's really the campaign DeSantis should be.
He's more like Trump than DeSantis is.
No, I think you're right.
And as of right now, I don't think people know this, but DeSantis hasn't qualified for
the debate.
Why?
The donor criteria, yeah.
Are you serious?
He has.
I mean, he probably will.
But as of today, he has not qualified for the debates.
Right.
You should bring that up.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
He talks about all the money that he has.
Are we doing Solomon on this one?
Solomon is next after this.
So this is a shorter six minute segment.
And then Solomon's after that for eight minutes.
OK, perfect.
What do what are the folks on Rumble want to hear?
Let's see.
Now people are talking about Ukraine.
Oh, how about Elon?
Oh, that'd be fun, yeah.
Spicy.
Okay, maybe we'll do that.
ThePatriot88 says cluster bombs would also destroy the global wheat market.
Wheat?
Wheat.
Oh, that's, yeah, okay.
Ukraine, I guess, I don't know.
I mean, I don't, meh.
I'm looking forward to DeSantis then going on Fox and begging for people to give him a dollar so he gets it up.
Well, I'll mention that he hasn't qualified yet, but, um...
You know.
And you watch, again, these DeSantis influencers on Twitter are just the absolute worst.
Like, they, the talking points go out, and they move like a hive.
Like, just earlier today, JD Vance criticized them.
Like, basically, the latest poll has DeSantis at 14%, and he said, maybe the DeSantis influencers should keep insulting people who used to be their friends.
That's a great strategy.
Like clockwork, boom, they're all attacking JD Vance.
And I'm like, really?
You're gonna go after the best senator we have?
Because he offered some constructive criticism.
I mean, he is a great senator.
So are guys like Tuberville, and there's a bunch of others, but there's guys that are just out there swinging for America.
And Coach is a dear friend of mine, so I think he's awesome.
Oh, we gotta talk about Sound of Freedom.
Duh.
My buddy Jim Caviezel's movie.
I think it's at 86 million now.
Yeah, it's crushing it.
Okay, we'll talk about Sound of Freedom and Elon.
Oh, I forgot I could have called Jim.
Probably could have gotten him on.
I didn't even think about that.
I just wanted to be a part of it.
I'm sorry.
Thanks for watching.
You're listening to America First with guest host Kash Patel, former acting director of National Intelligence.
Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Seb Gorka Show.
I think I'm still straight with the FCC, but let's make it spicy and talk Elon.
And where should we start?
Oh, no, I don't want to start with Elon.
I actually want to start with my good friend Ron DeSantis.
Who, by the way, as of this moment, has not qualified for the presidential debates.
I'm not sure if you've heard that anywhere else, but you've now heard it on the Seb Gorka Radio Show.
He'll probably will, because the rhino machinery, and I'm looking at one of the biggest rhinos over here on TV, and Carl, whatever that guy's name is, is probably going to get behind him.
But he, as of this moment, Ron DeSantis, has not qualified for the presidency.
So you got to ask yourself, why?
How is that?
I thought he was the Trump alternative.
And look, of course, I have to put my biases out there when I do media.
I am President Trump's senior advisor for national security, defense and intel.
I have, of course, resoundingly endorsed President Trump.
I think he's the only one who can save this country, level the two tier system of justice and bring our national security apparatus back into the fold and put America first.
But isn't it interesting that the Trump alternative, Ron DeSantis, is no longer an alternative at all?
And he bowed out of a pretty big speech in his home state of Florida this past weekend.
And the best he can do is a punchline in Breitbart that says, I'm not going to take potshots at President Trump.
But you said in that same article that President Trump never built the wall.
Are you unable to see?
President Trump built more border wall than any president in modern American history that has actually worked to defend this country from illegal aliens, drug traffickers, human traffickers, and more.
And we're going to talk about my friend Jim Caviezel's movie in a second.
The Sound of Freedom.
So when you see the Trump alternative, Reach down to the gutter with the conspiratorial media and put out a disinformation campaign that says President Trump did nothing to secure the southern border and didn't build a wall?
That's everything, in my opinion, you need to know about the Ron DeSantis campaign.
Not to mention the fact that they fired 12 staffers last week.
If they were so flush with cash and had such good policy and said they weren't going to get into a name-calling urination contest, Then why have they done all of it?
And I think that's just because he's not the alternative.
He never was.
And maybe he won't even make the debate stage.
We'll see.
I do want to talk about my friend Jim Caviezel in a second and his movie, The Sound of Freedom, that is just absolutely on a monster tear.
And if you haven't seen it, you got to go watch it.
But on Truth Social over the weekend, I challenged Elon Musk to a debate.
And that challenge remains open.
Since Elon Musk has bought Titter, it has bombed.
It has imploded.
It has become a censorship vehicle like no other.
The United States District Court judge in Louisiana bravely and accurately issued a ruling.
That forbade the FBI and DOJ from colluding with Twitter on censorship and free speech because he caught them doing it time and time and time and time again.
And when Elon bought Twitter, he told the world it was so he can have a censorship free platform.
Make no mistake about it.
Elon Musk bought Twitter for his X app so he can have one app to rule all of humanity.
His Twitter plan is imploding.
The only free speech platform that truly exists out there is as Truth Social.
It's the only one I'm on.
It's the only one President Trump's on.
It's the only one that Devin Nunes, one of my guests coming up is on.
It's the only one that John Solomon reports bravely and accurately on.
A fabulous reporter that's coming up here as well.
But I do want to spend a minute and a half with no absolute segue into the following.
Well, maybe it sort of relates to this information campaign.
Tim Ballard, who I've known for years, great American, served in the government, bravely took on human trafficking and sex trafficking and child exploitation.
And this movie, The Sound of Freedom, that my friend Jim Caviezel did with Tim Ballard, is just a monumental success.
And an absolute wrecking ball to the disinformation campaign of the media.
If you can believe it, CBS on 60 Minutes 10 years ago interviewed Tim Ballard and applauded his courageous conduct to shine a light on child sex trafficking and what he was doing to stamp it out.
Ten years later, he makes this movie?
CBS castigates Tim Ballard and the movie.
Why?
Because Jim Conviesal is a conservative man of faith.
A pro-Trump man.
And so, a movie can be made to actually go out there and raise awareness and take out child sex traffickers.
And the fake news media will hate it.
That is everything you need to know.
And the numbers and money don't lie.
The Sound of Freedom is the number one movie in America.
It beat Indiana Jones.
It has now overtaken Mission Impossible.
And I guarantee you this week when the fabulous Barbie movie releases, The Sound of Freedom will still be number one, because Americans care about law enforcement.
Americans care more than anything about our children, and we will not let them be sex trafficked and enslaved.
Thank you, Jim Caviezel.
Thank you, Tim Ballard, for your bravery.
Everybody, go watch The Sound of Freedom.
Bring your family.
Bring your friends.
Have a weeknight of it.
Have a weekend of it.
and we'll see you on the other side of the break.
♪♪ Cash, did you see Amanda Can't Come?
All right.
On?
Yeah, I thought- Are we good with guests then?
I thought- Yeah, I'm saying, do you want me to- That's- She was gonna be 5.05.
Do you wanna try to get somebody else for then, or you just wanna keep it open?
It's up to you.
So we have, we have John, Devin, and Jesse.
Yeah.
And then we're saying we need one more?
No, I'm just saying Amanda's not gonna be there.
Just asking if you want one more, if you wanna do callers.
Oh, we'll do callers.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, that's cool.
Chef 2B in the Rumble chat asks... Can you see the call screener in there?
There's a couple calls, I'll just say no.
Should be the monitor to your right, uh, next to Fox News, I think.
Oh, I can't, I don't have my gla... I can't.
Oh, okay.
You want me to send you screenshots to your phone, then?
Just pick em, just pick em.
Alright.
Yeah.
Sorry, go ahead.
Yeah, Chef 2B in the chat asks...
Cash, what do you think for Trump's VP in 2024?
Seb Gorka.
Steve Bannon.
Now, honestly, here's the thing.
I could care less.
They don't do anything.
You know, there are VPs that add value, but from a statistical voting standpoint, there hasn't been a VP selection that's made an impact on a presidential election in like 50 years.
I think you should do the shaman.
Oh, Shaman.
Maybe John Solomon.
Speaking of which... Hey, John!
Hey, guys.
How are you?
Thanks for doing this.
You do not want to put me on any political ticket.
I would make a lousy candidate.
Investigative reporters have no friends.
Oh, no.
We're friends, buddy.
We're friends.
You're stuck with me.
That's true.
That's true.
Yeah, that's good.
How are you doing?
I know you broke some pretty big news today, so let's let's go with that.
Devin Archer, Devin Archer, Devin Archer.
The audience likes Devin Archer.
And then, you know, Wednesday we got the IRS agents that, you know, I broke the story on a couple months ago.
I am told that there is now an FBI agent that's cooperating with Congress.
Ooh.
Corroborating their story.
So we could, I could tease a little bit of that.
I don't have a lot of details yet, but I probably will by the morning.
Oh, awesome.
That's great, man.
Yeah, so.
Thanks for coming on.
Lots of news here.
Oh, God.
How much time do we have with John?
Yeah.
How much time, guys, do we have with John?
Oh, we have... Oh, this segment is eight minutes long.
Is he on for two?
You can have him on for two if you want.
Oh, we got a lot.
John, it's up to you if however long.
Yeah, sure.
I'll stay as long as you need.
I gotta be clear at 4.05 because I have a radio hit then, but until then, I'm good.
Okay.
You'll be done at 3.57 if you do two.
Yeah.
Perfect.
There we go.
That's good.
Thanks, John.
Alright, guys.
Anytime.
What does Rumble want to ask John Solomon?
Let's see...
Someone in chat says, John getting a shoutout from Fortnite.
Oh, did I?
I missed that.
I'm not sure.
He doesn't say what that was.
John, just the news rocks.
Truth teller extraordinaire.
I like that, that's true.
That's very sweet.
45.
Oh, lots of people in chat.
Sorry, go ahead.
I was waiting for Joe Biden to say something, but he hasn't done anything nice.
I put in a request for a statement on John Solomon.
I don't know why he's not paying attention to you, Cash.
Yeah, he's just too busy sniffing babies and blow.
Oh, that was such a weird moment.
That baby thing.
Alright, alright.
Eugh.
Man.
20 seconds.
Alright.
Alright.
All right, here we go.
Welcome to America First with our guest host, former Chief of Staff of the Pentagon Kash Batal.
Hey everybody, welcome back to Seb Gorka.
I am co-hosting and I could not have found a better guest than the next guy who I've known for so many years.
He's become a dear friend.
He's probably the best journalist we have out there.
And he's been kind enough to agree to hang out with us for an extensive little interview here.
So everybody welcome John Solomon of Just The News.
John, thanks so much for coming on.
Hey Cash, good to be with you.
This is fun.
I like, I'm doing like the other way.
So get, you're on the hot seat.
No, I'm kidding.
No, thanks so much for coming on.
Look, John, you break stories more than I can keep up with, whether it's whistleblowers, whether it's FBI, DOJ corruption, whether it's Russiagate, whether it's Hunter Biden's laptop, whether it's the cocaine saga.
But I know you've just broke two more stories this week that probably a lot of folks haven't just read, heard about.
And I'd like you to lead off with those if you can tell us what's going on.
Yeah, this is an important one.
Devin Archer is going to testify as early as next week behind closed doors of the House Oversight Committee.
He is the business partner that really kind of sat between Joe Biden and Hunter Biden.
He's the guy that gets Hunter Biden his job at the Burisma board in Ukraine.
He's working on the China deal, the Harvest Bohai deal that was the first of the two big deals that Hunter Biden pursued with China.
He knows where the bodies are buried in Biden Inc.
He knows whether Joe Biden provided any assistance to his son, like maybe dialing into board meetings or meeting with some of the business associates at the Cafe Milano and others.
He knows whether Hunter Biden got any money out of the deal that sent Devin Archer to prison.
Devin Archer is soon to go to prison on a conviction for fleecing an Indian tribe in a bond scheme.
Did Hunter Biden have any financial benefits from the arrangements here?
He'll know those answers.
He's probably the most consequential witness to date that the Congress has had access to because he's a Biden insider at really the height of the foreign overseas business operation where they're trying to make all this money on oligarchs overseas.
So he could testify as early as next week, but there's one complication.
All of his documents that the FBI took from him back in 2016 when Devin Archer was arrested before he went to trial are sitting in a document storage company and thus far he has not been able to get the document storage company to give him his documents.
So his best evidence that would back up what Devin Archer could tell Congress is sitting in an archive and he can't get it right now.
The clock is ticking.
A lot of concern, a lot of scrambling going on.
The big question is, will Jim Comer, James Comer, maybe drop a subpoena to prompt those documents to the American public's attention?
We'll see how that goes.
So we're in a, it's a pretty unique position.
Normally folks that testify before Congress don't have a pending federal incarcerated sentence that they're going into.
So maybe the other side will try to run out the clock, but you left there with a pretty important power of Congress.
As you noted, a lot of these documents, if not all of them, are in federal possession by a department, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, that Jim Comer and others have oversight over.
So have they indicated to you that they're going to enter the fray and assist?
I mean, once, you know, Archer goes off to prison, it's going to be near impossible to interview him.
What do you think?
I think they're just finding out about these documents in the last 48 hours or so with my story and other things.
So I hope to talk to Congressman Comer, Chairman Coner, in the next 24 hours, find out what's going on.
I've been talking to staff today.
There seems to be some discussions where they've identified the firm.
So I think the process is warming up very quickly.
But these are very important documents.
For instance, I know of documents that are in this bundle because I've seen the FBI roster of some of the things that they seized from Devin Archer.
That are not on the Hunter Biden laptop.
So they fill in the gaps of some of the transactions that are teased on or mentioned on the Hunter Biden laptop.
One of those is a document from Blue Star Strategies.
This is a firm that Hunter Biden hired to try to help Burisma get out of the legal trouble it was in Ukraine.
It's on Hunter Biden's laptop, but it wasn't actually downloaded.
So Congress and myself and the FBI never got it off the laptop.
Devin Archer has a copy of that document.
memo according to the roster of documents that the FBI made when they seized all his documents back in
2016 so those are the sort of documents that could be very very valuable. So sticking with this investigation John
I don't know that there's another human being on earth that knows more about it than you do
Who would you like to see other than Devin Archer come before Congress and testify to bring us more information?
whether it's whistleblowers or private citizens or government employees who
Who would you have?
Who would you advise James Comer, Chairman Comer, to bring forth?
Well listen, just in my own reporting, in recent weeks I've been going through text messages that the FBI and other law enforcement agencies have gotten since 2020.
And there are a cast of characters that are involved in the 2017 China deal, which by the way, everybody thinks it started in 2017, it actually starts In December of 2015.
And there are a lot of concerns among congressional investigators that maybe the payments that Joe Biden and Hunter Biden are squeezing out of the Chinese in 2017, when you see those text messages, my dad sitting right alongside of me, that maybe it was for payment for services rendered when Joe Biden was still vice president and the payment was simply deferred.
That's a theory that Congress has.
Now we don't know the answer to that.
But there's a whole host of people that are involved in this.
A Romanian oligarch named Popoviciu, a foreign businessman named James Gilear.
I think some of these guys could bring enormous spotlight to what was really going on.
Devin Archer kind of drops out of the picture when he's arrested in the summer of 16.
So 2016 back, when you're talking about Burisma, the first China deal, some of the other, the Russian oligarch, Boterinem, Devin Archer can give and really will be a star witness
from that period of time.
2016 forward when you have the second pursuit of Chinese money is a whole new cast of characters.
I think Congress is just beginning to identify who they are and what they may know.
One of them, Rob Walker, gave an interview to the FBI in 2020 that the IRS whistleblower
has made public during their deposition.
And you see Rob Walker saying, heck yeah, Joe Biden met with the Chinese.
I was there, basically debunking what Joe Biden, his family friend, said didn't happen.
Remember, Joe Biden said, never met with my son's business partners.
Rob Walker, another one of those business partners in that time frame, says, the vice president did meet with them.
I was there.
I saw it with my own eyes.
Those are the sort of people I think in phase two over the summer and fall could be very valuable fact witnesses for Congress.
So John, we're going to hold you through the break.
We've got about 30 seconds.
I just want to get this from you.
Do you think we have enough time this year in Congress to get this stuff done?
It looks like a lot of work.
There's a lot of work, but they're moving expeditiously.
Yes, I think we can get a lot of the key information done in the next three to four months if Comp stays on pace.
Well, you heard it from John Solomon.
So if he's got faith in them to do it, then I'm going to jump on that train.
And they'll get all the help they want, whether they ask for it or not, from me and John Solomon.
Thanks for that clarity on how to proceed, and I hope Chairman Comer and McCarthy and others are listening on Congress.
We need to get these witnesses in, start subpoenaing, subpoenaing, subpoenaing.
Let's learn from the Democrats on how to run these investigations.
We'll see you on the other side of the break.
Kash Patel, Info 7 Gorka.
The FBI has been working on a new investigation into the FBI's new strategy to track and track the FBI's actions.
The FBI is working on a new investigation into the FBI's new strategy to track and track the FBI's actions.
The FBI is working on a new investigation into the FBI's new strategy to track and track the FBI's actions.
I'll give you a call offline after you get off air and talk to you a little bit.
I've got some ideas.
OK.
How long is the next segment, guys?
Three minutes, 50 seconds.
OK.
So, John, I think I just want to do a retrospective of how you felt.
Can we do the IRS whistleblowers and the new FBI witness and then we'll go wherever you want?
Yeah.
We'll do the IRS whistleblower.
It sort of ties in.
IRS whistleblower, FBI witness.
And then how did Chris Wray do last week?
Kind of what Congress needs to do to follow.
What's going on on Rumble?
Let me check and see.
Ooh, interesting one.
What are potential penalties against the FBI itself, Wray, for failing to investigate any of this?
Why did they not follow up with Bob Alinsky?
Ooh, that is a good one.
Well, there is no penalty from DOJ.
They're not going to do anything, but the penalty from Congress is they should impeach him and take his funding, in part.
They can impeach the FBI director?
Yeah.
Ooh, very nice.
He's the first and only guy next to Merrick Garland I think that should be impeached because the impeachment process is the win because the Senate's never going to convict him, but the impeachment process allows us to have a trial where we get all the documents and all the dirt out for the world to see before the next election.
Otherwise, we're not going to see it.
Wasn't sure if he qualified his cabinet level or not because I thought like they can only impeach.
No, no, any, any presidentially appointed Senate confirmed individual and judges, federal judges can also be impeached.
Oh, very good.
Okay.
That's useful.
So there you go.
Rumble.
There you go.
Start the impeachment parade.
One minute.
John, how far are your studios from here in Arlington?
about 70 minutes.
I'm going to do a little bit of a walkthrough of the game.
I'm going to start with the intro.
This is the first time I've played the game. I'm going to play it for the first time. I'm
going to play it for the second time.
You're listening to America First with guest host Kash Patel, former acting director of National Intelligence.
Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Seb Gorka Show.
I'm Kash Patel filling in and here with my dear friend, John Solomon, who just laid out what Congress needs to do going forward with this consequential investigation about Hunter Biden.
But there's more.
There's more.
John, I know there's a piece about the whistleblower in the FBI that you want to touch on.
So can you just tell us where you'd like to see this go in those lanes?
Well, before Devin Archer testifies next week, if that stays on course, this week, on Wednesday, the IRS whistleblowers are going to testify in public for the first time before James Comer's committee, the House Ways and Means Committee chairman.
Smith is going to attend that meeting, so it's kind of a joint investigation.
Americans are going to see both men.
They're going to get to learn the second agent's identity.
His name has been withheld from the public at this point.
They're going to get to see them testify.
In advance of that, I have confirmed from multiple sources that an FBI agent who worked with the IRS team has come forward and is now cooperating with Congress and can corroborate large parts of the IRS agent's stories about what went on with U.S.
Attorney Weiss.
That's a major breakthrough.
Now you've got two different agencies, two different types of whistleblowers coming forward, providing a singular portrait of what went on in the Justice Department.
Big explosive revelations ahead, I think, in the next 48 hours or so.
Wow.
Plus, supposedly Weiss is going to come in himself, the U.S.
Attorney from Delaware.
I mean, justice has promised that, but they'll probably push that out for months and months.
So I guess stay tuned on that front.
John, having your background in covering Congress and its constitutional oversight that you have covered so extensively.
I don't believe there's anyone more in the hot seat than Christopher Wray.
And he was at Capitol Hill last week, and now we've had time to digest what he said under oath, how he was treated, how Congress treated him, how he treated them, whether he respected them or not and gave truthful answers.
What's his report card from John Solomon?
Well, I talked to a lot of current FBI agents and former FBI executives, people that served right under the director in prior directorships.
And to a person, whether a current agent or a former alumni of the senior brass of the
FBI, they said that he really deserved the FBI.
He missed an enormous opportunity to explain what was going on, to acknowledge that there
were mistakes.
And one of them said to me, listen, John, he's asked how many times did they unlawfully
search Americans' phone records in violation of their own rules, something that the FISA
court went out of its way to make public because it was so concerned about it.
And he told the Congress, I don't know, signaling he didn't really care.
And he said that made all of us who carry the badge of the FBI, or did carry the badge of the FBI, heartbroken to see that, that he didn't have enough knowledge to address a very serious and meaningful allegation against the FBI.
You can go through all the other times he did the I don't know, I don't have that sort of thing.
Very serious matters and not very serious answers from Chris Wray.
And I think that's the grade that his own alumni gave him since the hearing last week.
Well, that's the only report card that should matter when you hear from the people that used to and worked at the FBI and the people that we want working back there again.
John, it's going to make, you know, we don't have time to get into it this time, but it's going to make extending 702 coverage all the more difficult.
275,000 times unlawful queries by Chris Wray's FBI.
And the guy couldn't remember the number.
John Solomon, America's greatest reporter.
Thanks for joining us.
Go to Justin News and watch him and check him out.
Thank you, John.
you you
Welcome to the second hour of America First with me, Sebastian Gorka, your one-stop shop for all of the biggest topics of the news cycle today, without the bias of the mainstream media or the censorship of big tech, whether it's the culture war or educational indoctrination, the immigration crisis or gun control, or the threats to the Second Amendment.
We have the true experts and the best guests on every subject.
Members of Congress, truth-tellers extraordinaire, warriors for the truth.
Stay tuned for the second hour of America First with me, your host, Sebastian Gorka, on the Salem News Channel.
The Doctor is in America first with Dr. Sebastian Gorka on Salem News Channel.
The antidote to the mainstream media.
The Doctor is in America first with Dr. Sebastian Gorka on Salem News Channel.
Welcome to America First with our very special guest host in studio, Kash Patel.
Welcome back, everybody.
We got a great lineup coming up.
My dear friend Devin Nunes and I are going to talk about, not Russiagate, we're going to talk about how the government gangsters spied on us unlawfully during Russiagate.
But before we get to that, we're going to use this segment to take on some callers.
But before we get to that, I am going to mercilessly and completely selfishly promote my new book, Government Gangsters, which is coming out this September, governmentgangsters.com.
It's breaking the records on presale.
Go there right now.
I'm doing something really special.
I'm signing book copies, but I'm also putting in any message you want.
You can literally have me write anything, that's not a curse word, at governmentgangsters.com.
I had to sue the federal government for eight months.
They withheld my manuscript.
I took them to federal court.
Nine different agencies reviewed this book because they didn't want it out.
And when it finally came, push came to shove, we won.
It's coming out with almost no redactions.
I know we're going to have a great time on Seb's show and Bannon's going to love it, but go to governmentgangsters.com right now.
Pre-order it.
Donald Trump called it the book and the roadmap on how we win back the White House in 2024.
And there's got to be a reason these millions of government bureaucrats didn't want this book out.
And I lay out, literally, chapter and verse, how each government, department and agency has failed us, FBI, DOJ, DOD, CIA, and more importantly, how we win it back.
And I have a list at the end of the book of every government gangster in the executive branch that I ever encountered.
We're naming names and we're telling you how to fix American government gangsters.
Go to governmentgangsters.com and if you feel like it, easy buttons with Bezos on Amazon, but whatever you want.
Anyway, listen, we're going to take some callers before we run into my good friend Devin Nunes and break some more news on what he and I are doing to force this Congress to investigate Chris Wray's FBI and Rod Rosenstein, then the Attorney General, for spying on us.
But let's take some calls, guys.
All right, Judy.
Hello?
Hello.
What do you got for us?
Hi, Cash?
Yes, ma'am.
How are you?
What's your question, Judy?
I did.
Oh, good.
I didn't hear you call my name or anything.
I wasn't sure.
Cash, first of all, it's a great honor to speak to you, I have to tell you.
And also, I can't wait to get your book.
Okay, so listen, these congressional hearings are really good and everything.
The problem is, Only conservatives seem to know exactly what's going on.
The people that listen to CNN have no clue.
They're not interested.
So it's kind of frustrating and there's no accountability.
So Cash, I spoke and I want to nail the Biden crime family.
I actually spoke to a someone who used to be like the chief litigator at the IRS.
Okay, well, can you just tell us your question?
We got a few more callers that want to jump in too.
Well, I'm trying to say, there's a different angle that he told me, and I just want to put it forth to you.
How about we get the Ways and Means Committee and the Republican Congressman to demand that the IRS open up a civil tax fraud audit, because before it was a criminal tax fraud audit, which had a statute of limitations that they screwed up on purpose, by the way.
The difference is civil tax fraud audit cash has no statute of limitations.
Well, I think I think what you're asking is for the IRS team that was kicked off the case.
I don't know that they never encountered that investigation on the civil side for five years.
I think from my perspective, having worked with those guys, they probably looked at it.
It probably just never made it to the light of day.
So I think it's worth looking into and whether or not there was a civil investigation.
So thanks, Judy, for your question.
And next caller.
Glenn in Phoenix, what's going on?
What's your question?
Welcome to the show.
Good morning, sir.
So I called about the Secret Service, but for me, it's bigger than the Secret Service, and I'll give you the example.
So two years ago when we had the Walk for Life event in D.C., Antifa was also there and counter protesting.
And at the time, you had Antifa people who were attacking the pro-life people.
And I'll always remember this.
The reason why the D.C.
police did not do anything is because at that time they were told to stand down.
Now these are MAGA supporters being being victimized here. And so we come back to the Secret
Service. So on this Secret Service issue, I'm seeing it in two ways. One, the
Secret Service did their job, competent, they know who it is. Okay.
And so if that's the case, why haven't they told us?
I think you raise a great point.
And I think what we're going to start seeing and what hopefully people will listen to in this call is that the everyday Secret Service agents did do their job.
Now we need some of them to be whistleblowers and blow the whistle on their leadership that suppressed this investigation.
And fail to bring about the illegality because of politics weaponizing, not just the FBI, but our Secret Service.
So thanks for your question, and hopefully we'll have a brave whistleblower from the Secret Service come forward on the cocaine cowboy saga.
Who do we have next, folks?
Rick in Phoenix!
The Western crowd loves it!
Next to my home state of Manhattan.
How are you?
Thanks very much!
What's your question, buddy?
Well, I don't have so much of a question as a suggestion.
Following up on your great book I'm looking forward to reading, Government Gangsters, I want to suggest that you put on a loop the interview with Chuck U. Schumer, where he says if you go against the intelligence agencies, they have six ways from Sunday to take you out.
Look, that's a great point, and I'm glad you're reminding folks, and part of that is in the book Government Gangsters, but what he's referring to there, for folks that don't know, is that Chuck Schumer, one of the most powerful members of Congress for the last, I don't know, 40 years, from my original home state of New York, a senator and a member of the Gang of Eight, Literally was on the steps of the Supreme Court and threatened people who dared to come forward with the truth, like these whistleblowers at the FBI, like these whistleblowers at the IRS, like hopefully these whistleblowers at the Secret Service.
He was saying our own intelligence community was going to go after him.
I know a little something about that.
We'll talk about it with Devin Nunes in the next segment, how the DOJ surveilled and investigated me as the chief investigator for RussiaGate.
I can't wait to get into that because you are not going to hear that on any other program except this one when Devin and I talk about it.
So thanks for your statement.
And let's take another question.
Matt, welcome to the program from great state of North Carolina.
What's your question, my friend?
Hello, Kash Patel.
How are you doing?
You're doing a great job as guest host.
Thank you.
What do you got for us?
I want to say about the cocaine tobacco in the White House is ridiculous.
I mean, I'm like, the position you were in, you're mostly amazed.
Listen to the whole show.
You're mostly completely amazed.
And I want to get a computer address for your book.
And also, you sent me the most gorgeous Trump 2024 flag.
Well, Seb's a great guy and I'm proud to be and humbled to be guest hosting for him.
And you can just go to governmentgangsters.com for my book.
I appreciate your support.
And, you know, if anything that we are learning from the cocaine cowboy saga is that everyday Americans are now learning that the two-tier system of justice is real.
It's not a right-wing conspiratorial Donald Trump talking point.
It is happening in everyday America in the executive, legislative and judicial branches.
Americans are being treated differently because of the color of their political stripes.
So thanks for raising that.
I think we got a couple more minutes for a couple more questions.
Who's next?
No, no more questions.
I lied.
I owe Seb five bucks.
So I think the chorus that we were hearing from, I think the theme that stands out to me from everybody that called in, and thanks for doing so, is pretty simple.
Where is the government accountability when our government fails to act for the American people?
And whether it's DOJ or FBI, or whether it's the intelligence community seeking revenge, Or whether it's judges improperly adjudicating sentences and committing people to incarcerative sentences that would be way shorter if non-existent at all, based on the nature of the crime.
And yes, I'm talking a lot about the Jan Sixth stuff.
I think America is finally waking up and we are breaking through.
And Donald Trump is leading the charge in exposing the system.
He has said time and time again, That they're after you, he's just in the way.
And I could not agree more and have always agreed with that sentiment.
And the more we rally around, not singular causes, but a cause that shows that your community is impacted by this two-tier system of justice, could be your neighbors next, could be your parents next, could be your cousins next.
And whether it's in the school board system or the mayor's office or the chief of police precinct, it's everywhere.
It's in federal and state government.
And the only way to level that system is to have some form of accountability.
So we talked about it with John Solomon.
We talked about Congress and what they can do and seize funds and bring people like Chris Wray to heel.
Devin and I are going to have a great conversation about what Rod Rosenstein and Chris Wray did to us during Russiagate and how we have forced Congress's hand in investigating them finally and what must come next.
So there are a myriad of things we can do, but we can't do any of it.
Unless you, everyone listening to this show.
Calls their congressman and woman and tells them the singular issue they care about, whether it's the two-tier system of justice, whether it's health care, education, the border, China, Russia, we haven't even touched on, really, national security policy.
They must hear from you.
There must be a force factor that multiplies out from every single state in this country back to Washington, D.C.
Because the only thing the bureaucrats respond to in the swamp Is the media, because they have to be reelected, and we will force them to listen to our voice, America First voice, that is being championed by President Donald Trump.
We'll be back on the other side of the break with a brave American, my friend and former
boss Chairman Devin Nunes and now CEO of Truth Social.
Alright, mics on.
Mike's on?
Yep.
You want him on for Devin?
Yeah.
All righty.
Dialing him.
All right.
What's the crowd got for this?
We got a heater here.
Devin and I haven't talked about this together yet.
Oh boy.
Let me see.
Let me keep updated with the chat.
Hey, Cash.
Hey man, thanks for coming on.
Oh, I can't hear you at all.
Yeah, what is it?
Hold on, we can't hear you.
OK, they're having an audio problem.
Yeah.
I'm going to kill the mics for this real quick, Alex, while we sort this out.
OK.
All right, mics are hot on Rumble.
All right, Devin.
Mike's are hot on the great free speech platform that is Rumble.
Are you down in Sarasota?
Yeah, you even have the Rumble colors on.
Yeah, you know.
Looks like you stole their... So do I. I matched you today.
Just tell Chris not to sue me.
I can't afford it.
How's it going?
It's good.
It's good.
I figured we haven't been together since the big announcement in Congress.
So this will be fun.
Uh huh.
We can dive into that.
We can figure we could talk about the monumental success of the Sound of Freedom.
Thanks to the launch on Truth.
It's, I think it's what, 87 million now?
86.
So where is, where's Seabass at?
Sorry?
Where's Seabass at this week?
Gorka?
You're not looking at my Truth Social feed.
He's out in like the West like shooting and having a great old vacation and riding cowboy hats and yeah, he's doing his thing.
Well, I gotta check it out here.
Yeah.
I haven't looked at it at yours today.
One minute.
I'm still getting a little bit of that feedback guys.
Yeah.
Probably because our mics are on.
I think it should go away once the segment goes up.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, let's kill the mics and then we'll roll into the segment.
Oh, there's Gorka.
See him?
Yep.
I'm still getting feedback.
So are we doing two segments, Cass?
Yeah, two.
How long is it for?
This first segment is nine minutes.
Nine minutes and then we'll come back after that.
Six minutes after that.
Nine and six, so fifteen total.
And in 15 seconds, seconds of my time.
Welcome to America First with guest host, Kashtel, former acting director of National
Intelligence.
Devin, thanks so much for joining us on the Seb Gorka Show.
It's great to be with you.
I was just listening.
Did Seabass call you Cattel?
I don't know.
He might have.
I haven't seen that.
You sound like he called you Cattell.
It might be a new name with a whole new series of memes coming.
But I'm glad you're on because, as usual, Devin, you seem to be breaking news and leading Congress to new investigations in uncharted territory.
So if people don't know what I'm talking about, you know, when Devin was chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and spearheading the Russiagate investigation, I was one of his chief investigators.
And we would find out just at the end of last year that in 2017, Rod Rosenstein and Chris Wray surveilled Devin Nunes' staff, to include me, and issued federal grand jury subpoenas for our personal records, banking information, emails, telephones, and more.
And I don't know, he kind of found that shocking.
I don't want to put words in his mouth.
But Devin, when you first heard about that, what was your initial reaction?
And then what did you do in response to that?
Well, thanks, Cash.
It's great to be with you.
And, you know, we first learned about this because of a Google policy right before Christmas.
It was kind of buried.
Not a lot of people knew about it.
We began to ask questions.
And I think rightfully so.
You've asked questions since you're one of the ones that they that they spied on.
Clearly you must have been, you know, really interesting.
They're very interested in your personal life.
Chris Wray and Rod Rosenstein.
I don't know what they were doing.
I hope you didn't have any pictures of your girlfriend up there or anything.
No, I was still in government service.
I didn't have time for a girlfriend back then.
These are really sick puppies that they did this, as you know, just to take the listeners back in time.
We were in the process.
We had discovered that they had lied to the FISA court multiple times, that they had used the p-tape dossier, those so-called steel dossier, that the Clinton campaign had paid for.
We knew that Rosenstein had signed one of those FISAs, and we were trying to get that information out.
And we wanted that information out in the fall of 17.
It got pushed off.
We weren't able to release it until early winter, I think right around the end of January, first of February, as we finally released what was known as the The Nunes memo that actually you were one of the major authors of with Trey Gowdy, where we exposed all this and it stood the test of time.
If anything, we actually didn't have enough information in there because we were more than right.
But when we brought in, when we had subpoenaed the Department of Justice and the FBI in 17, in August of 2017, September of 2017, They were, they were refusing to comply.
We were talking about holding them in contempt.
Uh, we brought, uh, them in for multiple meetings, both, uh, Rosenstein, who for all effective purposes was the acting attorney general and Ray, who was the, you know, then the new FBI director.
And they, um, you know, did not want to participate in our investigation, basically denied everything.
And as you remember, Cash, that's when I had to tell them that, They were under investigation by the legislative branch of government, the House Intelligence Committee.
We had an open investigation into DOJ and FBI for their malfeasance.
And it's right around, ironically, right around that time that they decided to, I guess they didn't have the balls to target me and Trey Gowdy and the other Republicans on the committee.
Maybe they did.
Maybe they went after my wife and my kids, maybe my personal attorneys.
I don't know.
But they did something that I believe is unprecedented.
They put At least you and one other, I think probably more of our staff, they put them under, they went to the grand jury and got a subpoena against you guys.
So Kash, you know what, one of the points that I made that I've been making on this is that, you know, this is pretty serious that they would go to a grand jury to get a subpoena against our staff.
So serious, in fact, that if they thought that you and others were Russian spies or Chinese spies, Or maybe you were taking money from the mayor of Moscow.
Maybe you're leaving Coke in the White House.
If they thought that my staff and my lawyers were this bad, this much of a problem, why didn't they immediately go to the Speaker of the House, to me, and say, hey, you've got Chinese spies here.
You better do something.
We just went to the grand jury because, my God, you guys had access to all the nation's top secrets at the time.
So if they, for some reason, thought that you and others were transmitting information, uh, around, uh, you know, illegally, um, or, and, or some kind of, of, of Russian agent of some kind, they had a duty and obligation to come to us and tell us.
So what does that tell you?
They knew you guys weren't Russian or Chinese spies.
What they wanted to do is they wanted to essentially reverse target To figure out where we were getting information from.
And I think look for, Cash, your girlfriends, former girlfriends, anything that they could find to embarrass you and our staff.
I mean, these are sick, sick, sick individuals.
Have you, Devin?
I mean, really, really.
I mean, I mean, they're so bad, Cash, that, you know, I hope that Chairman Jordan is able to Um, this, all this information exists.
So they need to figure out exactly what was the predicate to go to the grand jury.
I mean, it's going to be laughable because I mean, if they really did say, Oh, we think this guy's a Russian or Chinese spy, uh, they're going to have a lot to answer for because they lied to a grand jury.
And I am convinced.
I haven't seen the documents yet.
But only the circumstantial evidence that we have looking at the timing of it all, I am convinced that they lied to a federal grand jury.
I'm guessing it would have been the, and you know this better than I do, they must have used the U.S.
attorney from the District of Columbia to do it.
So you got three or four of them that lied to a grand jury.
Surprise, surprise.
Wow.
So, uh, two questions and we'll take, uh, we've got two minutes left in this segment.
So we'll take the second part of the question about what does Congress do after the break, but right now staying on this for people that don't know and don't normally follow what Congress does and.
You know, who investigates who and who has constitutional oversight.
Is it a normal occurrence for staffers or other folks at Congress to be investigated by the FBI?
And did they, do you think they went and got congressional documentation, meaning the emails and memorandum that we were working on in confidence when you were executing constitutional oversight that you have under the law, the right to do so against Rosenstein and Wright?
Well, I don't think we won't know the answer to that until we get, you know, what was the predicate for the investigation?
I mean, I think that's really the thing that we need to know.
And it better be something really, really important to go put, you know, my lawyers, you know, legislative branch lawyers conducting an investigation into them.
It better be something really big.
But then the problem that they have, Cash, and I'll just reiterate it again, is to go to a grand jury with something like this with congressional staffers.
Anything that was so important to go to the grand jury, they should have come to myself as chairman.
You guys were working for me and the other leaders.
They had lawyers within the House of Representatives they could have went to.
Multiple people they could have went to, should have went to, if indeed you guys were doing such criminal activity that you needed a grand jury subpoena.
I mean, you guys were sitting there holding all of our nation's top secrets.
I mean, my God, you go to a grand jury, you better go and warn the Congress immediately so that we could have taken steps to, you know, make sure that you guys didn't have access to this information.
Well, yeah, you're right.
Look, I agree with you.
And we're going to hold Devin over through the break and talk to him about what is going to happen in Congress, if anything, with now that we've exposed this.
And then also we can't have Devin Nunes on and not talk the power of truth social and how it's just kicking butt for America and free speech.
Thanks, Devin.
We'll see you on the other side of this quick break.
Thank you everybody.
Catch.
And chaining for.
On rumble.
Yes.
Thank you.
Alright, so don't say anything bad on Rumble to all the Rumble people.
Look, I even have my little Rumble, um... My little Rumble 1 million followers.
That's the award for those subscribers.
Wait, does Truth Social give those out?
I want one!
Well, if, uh...
We didn't have a corrupt SEC, and we actually could become a public company.
We might have some marketing capability, Cash.
Oh, man.
We could get you one of these.
You have a million, right?
Yeah.
Took me forever.
You're over a million.
I'm over a million.
I broke through.
Do you want to talk about the SEC thing or not really?
No.
I said basically what we can say.
Yeah, I got you.
Yeah, but it continues to be the challenge that we have moving forward.
And what is the Rumble Chorus saying right now online?
What do they want to hear from us?
Let me see here.
Scrolling through.
I got to get that link so I can send this out.
I'm going to put it on Truth, although I should have done it earlier.
Yeah.
Can you guys send Devin the link for the show and all that stuff?
And his team?
Okay.
Yeah.
Give me a second.
Can I send it to you, Cash?
Then you can send it to him?
Sure.
That's easier.
Don't worry, guys.
I've got it.
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
We've got it.
All right.
Mateus is really the brains of the operation.
Rumble, I want you to know that.
You should follow at Mateus on Truth Social.
Well, I can actually bring this up.
And then I should be able to say, Hey, we have 2000 people watching.
That's pretty cool.
That's a lot, right?
Yeah.
Well, yeah, Devin, then I'm just going to talk to you about the letter.
I just, Hey guys, by the way, I just sent you that letter.
Feel free to put it up.
I'm working on that now.
And then, um, after that, Devin, I'm going to talk to you about truth and, um, and, uh, the movie.
And then do you want to mention the thing we're doing at John's house or not yet?
But we only have six minutes.
I think we'll see how it goes.
I'm just loading it up.
Whatever we get, we get.
And, uh, Oh man, we must have bored the hell out of people because we lost 50 people just signed off.
50 of 2,000?
That's not bad.
Those are the bots.
I'm trying to get, I'm trying to figure out if they're at, if anybody's, oh, wait, here's the chat.
Okay.
Sorry guys.
I'm trying to get to it.
Okay.
Well, some were the other time about Portuguese wine.
My gosh, that's everywhere.
That's good.
I haven't even released it yet.
I know.
But I think I talked about it with Seabass last time I was on the show with him.
I love it.
I love it.
So we're just doing one six minute?
And that's it?
That's it, yeah.
One six.
You're off air in like 30 minutes, right?
Show's over?
Or does it go till 5, right?
It goes till 6pm.
Six.
Six.
Oh, six.
Yeah.
So I had Solomon on, I got you on, and I got Jesse Banal on.
It was pretty good.
We tried to lock down Amanda, but you know how that goes.
Somebody likes green wine.
Actually, I had some green wine yesterday.
It's called Vino Verde.
Green?
Or Vino Verde if you speak Spanish.
Those are nice wines, especially when it's hot.
15 seconds.
You're listening to America First with guest host Kash Patel, former acting director of
national intelligence.
I'm going to go to sleep.
Welcome back, everybody.
And that's the greatest intro you're ever going to hear, the Airwolf theme song, which also is the ringtone on my phone.
Yes, that's right.
Pinch-hitting for Seb Gorka here.
We got Devin Nunes.
We only got six minutes left into him.
So we're going to jump right back into it with this Truth Social CEO.
Devin, you laid out what happened to us in Congress that we just found out about this unlawful surveillance.
And you were the driving force in leading Congress to act.
And I think the team is going to put up the letter if we can.
But what happens now?
Where do we go?
What did you get the Judiciary Committee to do?
Well, I mean, look, I think we alerted them to this fact.
I told a lot of my colleagues that, look, if they were doing this back in 2017, imagine what they're doing now.
We know they've only gotten worse.
So if they had the guts and the gumption to do this back in 2017, I think the Republicans, with this very narrow majority that they have in the House of Representatives, have to make the assumption that the Department of Justice and the FBI are using these tools to spy on congressional staff.
Why would they have stopped?
There's no reason for them to stop.
They got away with it.
They got to know all your past girlfriends, Cash, at the time.
Probably got all the pictures.
I don't know what Ray and Rosenstein are doing with all those.
Maybe they have them up in their office.
But look, it's not a jokey matter, but all we can really do now is is point out the obvious, and we've got to maintain the fight.
We've got to be happy warriors.
We've got to stay in the fight.
But I think you know what's going to happen here.
Department of Justice and FBI will not answer the question, most likely.
But the documents do have to exist, I would think.
So they will have to subpoena them, and then there'll be a whole fight.
Um, and you know, look, I just, it's just a matter of time, like how much longer is this going to go?
Maybe eventually they get the documents, then they should bring in the people that were involved taking this to the grand jury.
They should bring them in for depositions.
That's what, that's what I would do.
I think you're right.
And then, and then, uh, you know, either make criminal referrals if, if they've done, you know, if the statute of limitations haven't run out, that's one of the problems, right?
This was five years ago.
But then the other large problem, as we found, is that the DOJ and FBI, they're fully incapable of policing themselves, as we found out with John Durham, who wasn't allowed, for whatever reason, to target the real people who created this, which was the top people, the DOJ and the FBI, who did the entire Russia hoax and, you know, weren't afraid, because this is all related, right?
I mean, the reason they went to the grand jury against you and others of my staff Is because they were trying to shut down our investigation into them.
So even with the inspector general that found that everything we said was correct, even with Durham, who found everything we said was correct.
There's been essentially what only one FBI guy who, you know, got a slap on the wrist.
Um, you know, you could, you could argue that McCabe was fired, but then he was given back, uh, you know, his, his pension.
Uh, so, you know, look, these guys have, uh, you know, abused their power and I think broke the law in many cases. I mean we made several
criminal referrals at the time I was there and this is just another instance of that. So
hopefully Chairman Jordan can get to the bottom of this and at least shed a little
sunlight on it.
Well, as you said, yeah, we got to be happy warriors and got to encourage Congress to act.
Send out the subpoenas, get the documents, and for me, put Rosenstein and Wray in the hot seat under oath and get them to ask and answer questions as to why they surveilled us in the first place and how extensive it was so the American public can hear it for themselves.
And Devin, in the two minutes we have left, a quick pivot.
Down there at Truth Social headquarters in Sarasota.
I've been there a lot.
You have led another massive successful launch campaign to Jim Caviezel's new movie, The Sound of Freedom.
I think it's at $87 million now.
Number one in the country.
It's not even in every theater.
They won't allow it.
We've mastered the music scene.
We've got number one after number one after number one.
Now we're into Hollywood and movies.
How does it keep working over there at Truth Social?
Tell the audience.
You know why?
It's because of the patriots that are on Truth Social.
And we're able to move markets quickly.
It's one of the, I think, the advantages is because we just have such an engaged audience.
They are people who believe in this country.
They believe in free speech.
And, you know, when they see people that are being canceled, I think there's a reaction to it.
You know, I had watched, you know, that film.
It was pretty disturbing before I was, you know, before we agreed to kind of support it and promote it.
Um, and it was really disturbing and dark.
And I think what's happening is, cause I was, I mean, just, just this morning, it's every day now when I go, when I go out and go around and you know how I like to do that, Gash, talk to, you know, kind of random people on the street.
Everybody's talking about Sound of Freedom.
It's pretty cool.
Everybody, everywhere, everywhere that I go, I had two people this morning that, that brought it up, even I had family members now who don't even go to the movies, who are going to the movies because they want to know why the fake news is bad-mouthing this, why they continue to attack Jim Caviezel, who's most popular for playing Jesus in Passion of the Christ.
So I think people are rebelling against it, and that's what a true social is all about.
It's about patriots that stay informed and they take action.
Well, Devin, thank you for your work in Congress, your brave leadership after leaving, taking on this new project at Truth Social.
I'm enjoying my time there and being on the board.
Maybe I'll get one of those $1 million follower sticks soon.
Devin Nunes, everybody, CEO of Truth Social and Champion of Justice.
Just a thank you, my friend, for being on SevGorka's show.
We're on Rumble, but we're good.
Okay.
I don't know if you want to take more of those questions.
They were asking us questions.
Oh, is Devin staying on?
Now I can't find it.
I think that's up to you.
The next segment is 8 minutes long.
And then what do we have after that?
That's it?
The super short segment, the 350.
That's the rest of this hour.
Let me see, are there any callers?
Oh, we got one caller on the line.
I was just trying to get to the Questions that people had on rumble just I'm not seeing many questions.
It's more just comments comments.
Yeah, that's okay That's all good All right, well Thanks, man Thanks cat tail.
I appreciate it a new nickname new memes coming.
Thanks guys.
Appreciate it.
All right.
We'll see you guys later Thanks for watching.
Thanks Terry's on rumble Speaking of Rumble, again, no questions, but you have broken over 2,000 live viewers on Rumble.
That's a record, and that's breaking your own record.
That's breaking records, baby!
Rumble!
Rumble!
Now, that's pretty awesome.
What are some of the comments we're seeing?
Well, here's a good one I just saw now from Pam.
The National Security Act must be overturned.
Our intelligence agencies should never act independently of the executive branch.
Well, she's, uh, look, they're not supposed to act independently, like, in many ways, but they do because they get away with it.
So that's a perceptive comment.
I don't know how we fix it.
Maybe we use this red phone here.
Call, call someone who can do something.
That's, uh, that's just wild about Sound of Freedom.
How, how, how good it's doing.
Yeah.
I'm like half as many theaters as Indiana Jones 5.
Well, literally.
And I don't know if you guys saw the postings and videos.
The theaters that were carrying it turned the air conditioning off, had the lights come on in the middle of it.
There's videos all over the internet on this.
It's crazy.
That is pretty nuts.
Yeah, even the theater I went to, my girlfriend and I saw Mission Impossible on Saturday, and we were told the theater we were going in was the only one with functioning AC.
What?
Yeah, so I was like, well, we got lucky.
Oh my god.
That's crazy.
So we got this eight minute, then the short one.
Um, yes.
And then what's after that?
Yep, that is correct.
And then that is the second hour one done.
And then... And you just have two segments next hour.
And then we play Jesse, or... Yep.
Or you play... Yes, that is correct, at 530.
And Jeff's fielding some more calls now.
Okay, cool.
Cool, yeah, we'll do some calls.
One minute.
Someone in the chat said cash is hot.
Ayo, someone in the chat said, cash is hot.
I don't know about all that.
That's pretty funny.
So Amanda's not calling, right?
I guess right, Jeff.
No Amanda.
No Amanda.
Yep.
Was she too busy sleeping?
Is there anyone else you want me to ask for that?
Nah, it's all right.
Oh, Sofia Vergara's getting divorced, guys.
Better get after it.
Oh, boy.
I remember watching a couple episodes of Modern Family and thinking it was the unfunniest thing I'd ever seen.
I remember watching a couple episodes of Modern Family and thinking it was the unfunniest thing I'd ever seen.
You're listening to America First with guest host, John O'Reilly.
You're listening to America First with guest host, Kash Patel, former acting director of National Intelligence.
Thank you, everybody.
It's Kash Patel, pinch hitting for the great Seb Gorka while he's out on vacation shooting guns and enjoying the American frontier.
I kind of wish I was doing some of that, but this is a unique opportunity for me to talk to his great audience.
So I'm going to try not to let you down.
We've had some tremendous guests on.
We've had John Solomon.
We've had Devin Nunes.
If you haven't seen the clips, go back and watch them.
We dove into a lot.
A lot of congressional issues, a lot of illegalities conducted by the FBI and DOJ and how we overcome it and where we need to go.
We've got the great Jesse Banal, America's lawyer, coming on shortly in the next hour, teaching us why we have a broken system of law and what we need to do to fix it and what we're doing to engage in that fight.
So you're going to want to stay tuned for that.
But as news is coming in here and we let off with or we dive into a little more with Jesse as well, the cocaine cowboy saga has officially ended.
I think the White House press conference has just told us that.
So I think sticking with the theme of this episode, what has to happen when your government fails, especially in your law enforcement investigative capacities?
And I remind you, I don't believe the Secret Service men and women Who conducted the investigation failed.
I think their leadership failed them by entering the fray and prohibiting them from releasing the actual findings or conducting an actual investigation.
So what do you do?
When that happens, it's akin to Christopher Wray and the FBI and Merrick Garland, DOJ, kicking off an IRS investigative team that had been on the Hunter Biden case for five plus years.
That's what they did.
And the only reason we found out about it was because of brave IRS whistleblowers that came forward.
The only reason we found out about so much of the corruption at FBI is because brave FBI whistleblowers came forward.
So.
I'm calling for Secret Service and other White House staffers and personnel to come forward under the Whistleblower Protection Act, which affords you the same protections under the law and anonymity To expose this waste, fraud, and abuse and to honor the brave whistleblowers that have come forward.
The Cash Foundation, which is my 501c3 charity that I run with some great Americans, has the best merch line in the world and we have a new whistleblower shirt.
And all the proceeds from all the merch that's bought on thecashfoundation.com goes right back out the door.
We've given money to January 6th defendants and families We've endowed a scholarship, we've given money to active duty service members, we've given money to veterans, we've given money to local police departments, and we're not going to stop.
And most importantly, we've given money to brave whistleblowers after they've come out with credible reporting, unlike the lies you hear from Nadler, Sheila Jackson-Lee, and Rep Goldman who think I'm buying and paying whistleblower testimony.
Just to be clear, The opinions of Cash Patel are my own.
They have nothing to do with our 501c3 foundation.
But our 501c3 foundation is bipartisan.
It's nonpartisan.
Whatever the right verbiage is.
We'll help anyone that needs it.
And it's free to apply and you can even sponsor anyone at thecashfoundation.com
and come to us with anyone you think that's in need and we'll help. That's the whole point.
And we have that because so many brave whistleblowers have come forward and given us
the oversight that has been missing in large parts from many sectors of this Congress. So
it's a call to action for Congress and I know speaking of calls we've got a few if not one
phone caller on the line. Let's bring him on. Cash Patel how are you? Don from the west coast.
How is it out there in the liberal left?
Hot, hot, hot.
I'm here in L.A.
in the belly of the beast, so you can imagine, having been in Washington.
I got a quick question.
Well, you know, Ronald Reagan used to call Cap Weinberger Cap the Knife.
I think we ought to call you Cash the Razor.
But my question or concern is, you mentioned the January 6th defendants, and what bothers me is, like, to all these liberals, I say, look, you say these guys did wrong, and so they need to be in jail.
What about all the guys on your side that outnumber them?
I mean, there was something like 600 riots, weren't there?
Like, over the whole country.
If we prosecuted them the way the FBI, we used their methodology, the way they went after the January 6th guys, the jails would be bulging.
You know, so who do we hold accountable?
The people that just let them off?
Or how do we do that?
Well, that's a great question.
And thanks for calling from California.
Thanks for calling from Los Angeles to show us that there's still some great conservative Republicans out there that care about the law, which I think is what you're asking.
What you're asking about is how do we get to a singular or get back to a singular system of justice?
Because you're right.
Look, there was people that committed crimes at January 6 and they should be prosecuted, investigated and put in prison.
But so many of them are being falsely and baselessly prosecuted for revenge, for political vendetta.
And as you stated, Antifa was rioting and burning down cities.
Portland literally had a federal courthouse set on fire.
Minnesota was burning down police stations.
Molotov cocktails were being thrown at cop cars in New York City.
And no one is being punished to the maximum measure of the law when it comes to these situations and circumstances.
But as our guest highlighted, you have all the many, especially the way it's January 6th, being punished.
And the way you get accountability, unfortunately, it's a two-step problem, short-term, long-term.
Long-term is you got to win in 2024.
And as I've said before, I believe Donald Trump is the leader we need to Go back in there and implement executive branch personnel and policies that shake up America and restore our constitutional republic.
But that's the longterm.
That's November, 2024.
What do we do now?
We do what we Devin Nunes and I talked about, and what we talked about was the utilization, and what John Solomon and I talked about, of Congress.
The Republicans have the majority.
The Republicans have the majority.
It doesn't matter if it's a slim majority or a big majority, the Republicans have the majority.
And so these chairmen and women in leadership positions must act.
I don't believe for a single second that they don't know how to conduct these investigations.
It's not complicated.
I don't believe for a single second they don't know how to send out subpoenas.
Sure they do.
They need to be informed that that's what we care about.
That that's what you care about in California or my home state of Nevada or out here in the swamp in D.C.
They need to hear from us, Don, that these are the issues that we care about.
And you need to go out there and call them and say, seize the FBI's partial funding until they give us the documents that answer the questions on the cocaine saga, that answer the questions on the border, that answer the questions on the Hunter Biden laptop, that answer the questions about the Joe Biden pay-for-play scheme.
That answer the questions on why you were unlawfully surveilling senior congressional staffers at the House of Representatives.
That answer the question why Chris Wray is allowed to be a premier government gangster and lie to Congress under oath repeatedly and retaliate against brave whistleblowers repeatedly without any consequence.
We must impeach Chris Wray.
This is a call to action to impeach them so we can learn the truth during that trial process in Congress.
Kash Patel, pinch-hitting for Seb Gorka.
We'll be back on the other side of this break.
So we're here.
Three minutes.
Uh, yeah.
Two and a half minutes now.
Got it.
If you want calls, give out the number a couple times.
Do you have the phone number?
Oh, okay.
Should I say it now or just when I'm on the air?
When you're on the air, yeah.
Do you have it?
Yeah, I can see that.
833-33-GORGA.
Yep.
I should have been saying that.
That's my bad.
Hmm.
Tribal Tactics in Rumble asks, Do the J6 detainees have a right to sue for being held without the right to a speedy trial?
They do.
Everyone has the right to sue for a constitutional speedy trial.
The difference between state and federal court is federal court doesn't define the amount of days necessary for a speedy trial, but state courts do.
Got it.
So they can challenge it.
It's going to be an ambiguous, undefined term, but I think it's worth doing.
I think we've seen the Supreme Court just recently take up the obstruction of justice cases that were levied against so many Jan 6 defendants, or they were petitioned to take it up, and I think they will, because a lower court judge found that the obstruction of justice charges that DOJ brought were unlawful.
The D.C.
Circuit reversed, and I think the Supreme Court needs to answer that with finality.
It's worth bringing some of these litigations.
Indeed One minute
You 45
you you
You You
...
Thank you.
You're listening to American History Month. I'm your host, Bill O'Reilly. And I'm going to be
your host, Cash Patel, former acting director of National Intelligence.
Thanks.
Hey, everybody, welcome back.
As we close out the second hour here on the Seb Gorka Show, I'm Kash Patel.
Thanks for letting me sub in here and hopefully we're doing you guys proud.
Look, call in with questions.
Call in 833-33-GORKA.
833-33-GORKA.
Call in with your questions.
We've got a bunch of time on the other side of the next hour and I'll be taking some more questions as we close out this hour.
I want to talk to you about a group of people that was brought up in Rumble Chats in the break that we had, and that's the January 6th folks and their families, and how they are being treated so differently, so many of them, by the Justice Department and the justice system.
And there's a lot of people that have provided great assistance to them.
But I want to say that I think the person that has led the charge in bringing the greatest assistance and awareness to them is Donald Trump.
And you'll need look no further than his number one hit song, Justice for All.
That's right.
Donald Trump put out a song called Justice for All, where the January 6th prison choir sings from the prison every night at 6 p.m., the national anthem.
And Donald Trump recited the Pledge of Allegiance.
And then it was masterfully digitized by a brilliant musician in America and put out and went number one on the Billboard charts.
And guess what?
I got an announcement to make.
Billboard is going to give President Donald J. Trump a plaque just like everybody else who achieved the number one status on Billboard.
And just so you're aware, Donald Trump knocked off Miley Cyrus, Morgan Wallen, Taylor Swift, Rihanna, Destiny's Child, or whatever that group's called, and everybody else on his way to number one and held that position.
And that speaks to the power of the mission that Donald Trump's on for the January 6th families, that a lot of Americans care about that.
And more importantly, Donald Trump didn't make a dime from this.
He wasn't paid anything.
All the money that we raised, the net proceeds after cost, are going to the January 6th families.
And we're going to use foundations like the Cash Foundation to disperse it.
And I'm going to be on the waves with my friend Anne Henry on Thursday morning announcing the first sizable deposit to our foundation from the proceeds of that song that we're going to turn around and give to January 6th families.
So that was the mission that Donald Trump led.
And I just want to remind everybody that While we can't take on the fight for every single January 6th-er, we're going to do it for as many as we can, and we're thankful to President Donald J. Trump for leading and having the courage to put a song like that out because he was mercilessly attacked for it.
The left is okay if they have universal songs across the country singing kumbaya, smoking weed, and bringing blow to the White House.
But dare Donald Trump, you know, break the mold and launch a song on Truth Social with
Devin Nunes and us and put it out there for free in terms of money and marketing and have
the response that we did and the millions and millions of viewers that bought the song.
You can still go out there, get it.
Justice for All by the January 6th Prison Choir and President Donald Trump.
All proceeds will forever go to January 6th families.
We're cutting the first big check finally this week.
Stay tuned and thanks for your support in showing America liberalism, that conservative
music and constitutional music has a place in our country.
Thanks, and we'll see you in the next hour.
I'm Cash Patel for Cev Gorka.
Thanks for watching.
You You
You're listening to America first with guest host Kash Patel former acting director of national intelligence
And I'll see you next time.
Hey everybody, welcome back as we kick off the last hour of the Seb Gorka show on this wonderful Monday.
And it's been a pleasure to have John Solomon and Devin Nunes on, and we want you guys calling in.
I've set some time in these next segments here for you guys to call in 833-33-GORKA.
833-33-GORKA.
You can call and ask me literally anything you want, and I will tell you all of Seb's secrets.
833-33-GORKA, G-O-R-K-A.
Call in with your questions for me in this next segment.
I think we've got one call coming in right now.
Let's go to him.
Joe in Illinois.
How are you doing in the Midwest, my friend?
And thank you for calling.
What's your question?
We're trying to hang in there.
You know, they just raised my insurance rates.
But my main reason for calling in cash is that You know, the cocaine in the White House thing is as bad as the outbreak of chocolatey goodness in Hershey, Pennsylvania.
There is only one man that could have possibly brought coke into the White House.
And they just dropped it.
You know, it's like, come on now.
I sound like Biden.
We don't want that.
No, no, no.
When I voted for Trump, you know, and I'm a Trumpocrat, you know, I looked at Hillary's name and I looked at Trump's name and I'm like, I cannot vote for this woman, you know, and ever since Donald Trump has, you know, put his nose to the grainstone, hardest working modern day president Uh-huh.
And why these view watchers and Karens in the suburbs don't get it, I have no idea.
Well, I think they're starting to see it, and I think the point, and thanks for calling in, that you're trying to make is that how is it that this White House continues to live under a two-tier system of justice?
They just announced the ending of the cocaine cowboy investigation, and we've called for a whistleblower or two to come forward from Secret Service and staff at the White House.
to show us the truth because none of us buy it.
And look, it doesn't matter whether it was hunters or not.
It was someone's.
A class one felony narcotic was found on the White House grounds and we're supposed to believe America's superior law enforcement agencies and departments at the most sacred institution in the world couldn't figure it out?
That's the message we want to send the world?
When we are sending billions of dollars to the Ukraine and telling them how to fight their war, they're going to look back at us and say, you can't figure out who brought cocaine into the cathedral.
That's what they're going to tell us.
And I think people are seeing it.
I know we got some more callers, so let's get to them.
Who's we got next?
Lisa from Tennessee.
How are you doing?
And what can we do for you today?
Hi Cash, I just have a question about, I voted for Trump the first time, reluctantly, because I couldn't possibly vote for Hillary Clinton, but then he proved himself, and I voted for him the second time, and then the whole thing with the vaccine and the fast tracking of it, my dad and two of his brothers, all three died from Well, it's a great question, and I'm really sorry about the loss that you suffered and your personal family.
My condolences and prayers on that.
I remember being the Deputy Director of National Intelligence at the time and going into the Oval with the Director of National Intelligence and briefing the President about the origins of the virus.
And this was February of the year it broke out.
And his response was, we got to shut down travel from China.
He made an intelligent response based on the data and the facts, and he was excoriated for it and called a racist.
Well, you look back in history, he was right.
And whatever your position is on the vaccination itself, Donald Trump, I think, made a decision based on the facts and the best decision he could.
Most of the world was demanding that government, because nobody else could do it, provide and roll out a vaccine.
Now remember, Donald Trump never mandated the vaccine.
And I was his chief of staff at DOD when it came out under Operation Warp Speed to roll it out.
And we rolled it out because we were the only institution on God's green earth that could have done so.
And we didn't mandate it for the military.
We didn't mandate it for anyone.
But just think of it this way.
What if President Trump had sat there and didn't put out a vaccine?
A lot of other people would be just as equally as ticked off and would be calling and saying their loved ones perished because there was no vaccine.
So it's a very difficult spot and I give President Trump all the credit in the world for not mandating it, for acting on the facts that we knew at the time, and of course if the villain Fauci wasn't there back then.
And we knew how much of a villain he was back then.
Decisions would have been made differently, but we can't play Monday morning quarterback.
We just did the best, and I think he did the best he could, President Trump, in putting the vaccine out in the fashion that he put it out.
And we need Congress to pick up the lessons learned.
We're still talking about the origins.
We know where it came from.
President Trump told you where it came from.
And he banned travel as a result of it.
And we were castigated for it.
I remember being personally attacked for daring to have that opinion.
That China created it and it came from the Wuhan lab and things like that.
But Congress has a lot deeper to go because we now know Fauci participated in a scheme to obstruct the truth from coming out by basically informing people that worked for him that they couldn't write papers that showed the origins of the lab virus.
So it's a complex and unfortunate tragic part of our history, but I think Donald Trump navigated best he could.
Let's grab the next caller.
Jack from San Antonio, Tejas.
How are you doing, and what can we do for you?
Great!
Thank you for taking my call.
I've heard that you were in on that meeting where President Trump offered to bring in the National Guard to protect the Capitol, and that General Milley might have even been there.
If that offer was refused, plus the other evidence has come out that there were Federal agents there, I think there was a Project Veritas interviewed a New York Times journalist, Matthew Rosenberg, who said there were tons of FBI operatives amongst the people that attacked Capitol.
And then Tucker Carlson interviewed the retired Capitol Police Chief, Stephen Sund, and he said there were lots of federal people among the crowd.
So was that meeting, uh, did he offer the guard?
Yeah, I think that's a great question.
And look, I was in that meeting in the Oval Office.
We were there on an unrelated matter and it's been unequivocally proven the January 6 sham committee subpoenaed me first before anybody else.
And they didn't call my lawyers, anybody.
They just leaked it to the Washington post because that's what Adam Schiff and company wanted.
And they called me and told me I'd been congressionally subpoenaed.
I had nothing to hide.
They didn't need to subpoena me.
I wanted to tell them and go out there and did tell them the truth.
After having to go and hire lawyers and pay $250,000.
That's what they wanted.
And what happened was, we told them the singular truth.
President Trump, two days before January 6th, authorized the National Guard as required by the law.
The United States Commander in Chief cannot lawfully deploy the uniformed military in the United States.
That's the law for a reason, so we don't have coups.
But the National Guard can be employed and deployed when the President, one, makes an authorization, and two, and two, Local law enforcement requested, in this case, the Capitol Police in Washington, D.C.
Capitol Police, run by then-Mayor, Speaker Pelosi, and the Metropolitan Police Department in D.C.
by the Mayor Bowser here.
And when we dared to tell them the truth, that President Trump authorized it, and those two women Declined National Guard assistance.
They excoriated us yet again as right-wing conspirators and President Trump could never have done this.
And then we brought the receipts.
We brought the memorandum from the Department of Defense memorializing these conversations in that meeting.
We showed the letter where Mayor Bowser refused the National Guard and we showed Mayor Pelosi's position through her Capitol Police officers that they declined because of appearances.
They didn't want it there.
So the people at fault for the failures of January 6th security are Mayor Pelosi, Bowser, and every other politician that declined President Trump's offer for National Guard.
He acted courageously on that day.
Two years later, shockingly, we are finding out the truth.
But that's the same thing that happened to me in Russiagate.
When we broke the FBI investigation in DOJ on Hillary Clinton paying for it, nobody wanted to believe it.
But the thing we've always done is put out the truth.
And that's the only thing that matters to me right now in the mission that we have for America is to educate them so the elections aren't rigged anymore with fake disinformation about what's purportedly happened on January 6th.
Donald Trump acted courageously and appropriately and preemptively.
And the politicos got in the way and shut it down and they wanted that scene to occur in some fashion because they wanted to say Donald Trump was quote-unquote inciting an insurrection.
What do you have?
Jack Smith, the special counsel, still bogusly investigating Donald Trump for baseless conduct on January 6th.
And we've seen his baseless indictment, and we'll talk about that some other time.
But thank you for bringing up January 6th again.
The message is unequivocal.
Donald J. Trump, as Commander-in-Chief, acted to authorize our National Guard.
Nancy Pelosi and Mayor Bowser and others declined that request.
They jeopardized the safety of Americans and police officers on that day, not Donald Trump.
Thanks so much, everybody.
We'll see you on the other side of this quick break.
I'm Kash Patel.
For Sep Gorka, go to thecashfoundation.com and grab some merch!
Thanks for watching!
Oh, fuck.
Uh, yeah.
Thanks.
Jeff said he set it up for Friday.
If I miss that flight, I'm gonna get murdered.
At least it's Reagan and not Dulles.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, man.
I only ever fly strictly Reagan.
again. All righty. Three minutes. All right. So I'm going to go ahead and start the timer.
All right. Three minutes.
Three minutes.
Three minutes.
Bye.
My girlfriend saw a rat run across the ground at a Chick-fil-A at Reagan Airport.
Oh man, I've been to that Chick-fil-A.
Oh, I want that Chick-fil-A.
Oh, it was in the Chick-fil-A?
Oh, man.
It ran across the ground.
Or, like, outside the Chick-fil-A?
It crashed in at the Chick-fil-A.
Who cares?
It was on the ground.
It wasn't on the grill.
Who wants a rat near their food?
There's some good places.
I mean, Chick-fil-A will always be my number one, but there's some good places in the Reagan Airport to eat.
There are.
Between that and a rockin' pizza, Alex.
What?
The rockin' pizza.
What number was that?
Uh...
Oh, I didn't know that.
I must not have been here.
I had five guys again recently over this weekend for the first time in a long time and I forgot how...
good it is.
I'll say that.
It's good.
What's the best burger joint?
Around here?
Five guys is pretty good.
Five guys I think is... I like Shake Shack.
Okay.
Shake Shack's pretty solid.
I've never had it.
It's good.
There's none in Califor... or at least not where I'm from in California, so I never knew it existed until I came out
here.
Never had that one.
Okay, $1,700.
Okay.
1,700 people watching.
Oh, what are they saying?
Rumble, what do they want to hear?
Still talking about RFK, looks like.
Oh, some people talking about J6.
Oh, RFK, the JFK files.
Oh boy.
Someone, Oli Loving in the chat says, Cash, talk about the next cabinet and where you might fit
in.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Well, personnel is important.
We can talk about that.
Oh yes.
So when I wrap up this segment, I shouldn't like wrap.
I should wrap it up.
And I'm going to do that.
And then I'm going to do that.
You're listening to America First with guest host Kash Patel, former acting director of National Intelligence.
Welcome back to the Seb Gorka Show.
I haven't asked the boys just yet for a tally on FCC violations, but let me see if I can break it ten times in one hit.
No, I'm just kidding.
Seb, enjoy your vacation.
Thanks for letting me come in here.
So look, we have talked about some great topics and 833-33-GORKA.
833-33-GORKA.
Yes, I'm talking to you.
The guy that's happy it's Monday and going to happy hour.
Come in and I mean call in on your way to the pub and have a question or two for me.
You could literally ask me anything you want.
833-33-GORKA.
Fired up.
Rumble is on absolute fire.
Thank you, everybody, for participating in the chats.
Thanks for your comments on Truth Social.
Yes, pitifully, I'm going to self-plug again.
Make my book number one.
Is that OK?
Are you allowed to say that?
I don't really care anymore.
Government Gangsters.
GovernmentGangsters.com.
Go.
Pre-sales are through the roof.
You can go to Amazon.
If you want a signed copy, go to GovernmentGangsters.com.
We are going to expose the deep state.
We're going to show you how to fix this government, and I can't wait to blast it out.
GovernmentGangsters.com.
Thank you.
I know we got a couple of callers, so let's dive into them.
Who do we got?
Roy, Texas is alive today.
Roy, how can we help you?
And thanks for calling in.
I've been following you ever since you've been on NTD News and also with Jan Jekielek when you do your programs.
And those are excellent, by the way.
Thank you.
Since we already have the Durham investigation, the Mueller investigation already aside, and we've got hearings going on, we know what kind of criminal that Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton are, along with Loretta Lynch and her involvement in meeting with Bill Clinton while President Trump was running on his campaign.
And then we find out, too, that Barack Obama... So what's your question, my friend?
How do we go about getting the Secret Service protection revoked for Hunter Biden?
Well, look, I think, you know, I don't think we can do that because it would it's a good question.
It's a fair question because, you know, someone who commits crimes doesn't deserve the protection of our lauded Enforcement agencies, but the problem or the reality is he's the son of a president and because he's a target, we can't allow him to be attacked.
So we would never want that.
And I think, you know, all the president's kids, whether it's Biden or Obama or Trump all received that appropriate level of protection.
And we want that to, we want that to remain.
We never want to make it personal.
And we never do.
We just want to put the truth out and expose the corruption.
Who do we got next?
Todd from Hotlanta, are you sitting there on the runway next to Chris Wray at his summer house with his private jet?
No.
Yeah, I just want to say, you know, when Jim Baker, the head lawyer of the FBI, Roland Jaffe, Obamas, and Sussman, when they hacked into the executive office of the president, that included you, it included his lawyers, Mike Pompeo.
Is there any action going to be taken to get Well, you know, that's what we, you know, Devin Nunes and I were just talking about Russia.
You know, we always say, I always say all roads lead to Russiagate.
All roads lead to Russiagate.
Watch the plot against the president.
Watch the plot against the president.
It is more prescient than ever.
Excuse me.
Your question similarly goes back to Russiagate.
These people perpetuated the biggest criminal conspiracy in U.S.
history.
We exposed them, and we were hoping that Durham would come in harder than he did.
But it looks like he came in light, so I blame him enormously.
But he also bent the knee to the government gangsters that were Merrick Garland and Chris Wray, and it looks like he was shut down from bringing it.
I mean, Look at what his finding was.
There was no, no lawful basis to ever surveil Donald Trump or ever open up an investigation on him.
Obviously, Devin Nunes and I found that because...
We put out the truth and put the screws to the FBI and DOJ, but we weren't able to prosecute these criminals.
So it's up to us to and get Congress to get these guys under oath back in there.
Comey, McCabe, Clapper, Brennan, etc.
Because the one thing you can count on government gangsters to do is to lie and lie and lie over and over again and not get caught.
But when Donald J. Trump's the president in 2024 and we have the right personnel package in there at DOJ, FBI, CIA, DOD, NSA and everything else, we are going to restore this country To the height that it belongs to.
Thanks for your call.
Who do we have next?
Shelley from Arkansas.
I was just with a buddy of mine in Turkmenistan, of all places.
I brought a great country music singer, Jeffrey Steele, from the Country Music Hall of Fame out to Turkmenistan in Central Asia to open up our U.S.
Embassy out there.
It was a smash hit.
Check out the songs that we played out there.
But what's your question?
So I'm just curious, you kind of touched on a lot of it, but with Trump back in office or even before, You know, we talk about all this corruption, and I'm not referring to specifically presidents' kids.
I'm talking about, you know, from back to Hillary days.
Do you think that we're actually going to see any accountability?
Like, when I say that, I probably speak for a million, millions of people.
Sure.
Like, real time.
I'm talking real charges and, you know, accountability.
I know Trump says he's going to clean house, the gloves are going to be off, you know,
you don't have to worry about another term.
But like, I think most people are just sick and tired.
We hear of all these investigations, we hear, you know, there's just, you know, all these
meetings in Congress and on and on and on.
And you hear these letters being sent out.
I'm sick of it.
I want to.
I share your passion on this subject immensely, especially somebody who led investigations and was falsely the target of investigations.
We had Devin on the show and he borrowed one of his terms, happy warriors.
It is exceedingly frustrating.
And all you want to do is stop and say it's never going to get fixed.
But look, you can't fix all of it at one time.
We had John Durham, and he missed the mark.
Completely.
But he allowed us to see the truth that the media would lie about for five years.
That the FBI and DOJ baselessly, unlawfully, and falsely investigated Donald J. Trump.
That one sentence alone is worth the multi-million dollar investigation John Durham ran.
Now, of course, we found that to be true when we ran the Russiagate investigation and put out the Nunes memo.
But President Trump can forever use that.
It's no longer right wing talking point.
It's not a conspiracy.
And look, our founding fathers didn't want our republic fixed overnight, quote unquote, or, you know, changed overnight.
It's a slow moving machine.
And rightly so.
So I think it's going to take time.
We have to put Donald Trump back in the presidency.
We have to restore personnel and we have to get the right people and not just in cabinet positions, but in deputies and chiefs of staff and undersecretaries and assistant secretaries.
And ambassadors and U.S.
attorneys.
We have to stock the government with the people that want to put America first, and they exist.
That I can tell you, I've worked with them.
We didn't get all the personnel packages right the last go-round, and I think you just heard President Trump say as much on one of his most recent media interviews.
And we're learning from our mistakes.
And will there be ultimate accountability 100% across the board?
Look, probably not.
That's unrealistic.
But we're going to have a lot of accountability.
More importantly, More than the personal accountability that a lot of us thrive for, I want people to see that the overarching win is the fix to the government so this never happens again to anyone else.
As Donald Trump says, they're coming after him, they're coming after you, they're coming after us.
But the biggest win is not just to put handcuffs on the people who came after us unlawfully.
It's to forbid anyone else from ever doing that again to any other political party, movement, or person in American history.
And I think that's what Donald Trump is bringing to the table.
And that's what we hope to see when he's back in the presidency in 2024.
So the bigger win, we got to keep an eye out for the bigger picture.
While we want personal accountability against the government gangsters, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Priestap, Page, Haspel, Esper, everybody else.
We have to want an overarching fix so our children are subjected to this unlawful persecution ever again.
And it's tough.
It's going to be a rough ride, but stay with us.
We are going to get there.
Thank you.
I'm Kash Patel, pinch-hitting for Seb Gorka.
We'll see you on the other side of this break with America's lawyer, Jesse Binal.
You're listening to America First with guest host Kash Patel, former acting director of National Intelligence.
Hey everybody, welcome back.
We have none other than America's lawyer, Donald Trump's lawyer, my lawyer, don't tell anybody, and he should be everybody's lawyer, Jesse Binal, the head chief partner at the Binal Law Group.
Jesse, thanks so much and welcome to the Seb Gorka Radio Show.
Hey, thanks for having me, Cash.
Always a pleasure to be here.
I don't know if Gorka's gonna need to hire you for all the FCC violations I've committed, or I'm gonna have to hire him, but we'll get into that later.
Look, I know you've been working on a ton of stuff, but I'd like to start with something you and I have sort of broke in recent memory.
I think the team's gonna put it on the On the viewer to see, we refer Dan Goldman, representative, as we call him, Schiff Jr., to the Department of Justice, thanks to the successful work of the Banal Law Group, for criminal prosecution.
Jesse, can you take us through this letter that was brilliantly written, none other than by yourself and your team?
Yeah, absolutely.
And what it comes down to is that people like Dan Goldman in Congress truly believe that they are the ones above the law.
And when he goes out and he starts lying about you, or lying about whistleblowers that are exposing the true corruption that we're seeing in the Department of Justice and the FBI right now, the weaponization of government, He really thinks that because he's in Congress, he's above the law.
But when he goes on Twitter and does that, and when he goes and starts making up lies and starts, for instance, creating false statements and creates makes it so that there are false entries put into federal
government agencies.
He would actually be violating the law, and that's exactly what we believe that he has
done in this instance.
And that's why we did a referral to the Department of Justice.
And if we really do have an independent Department of Justice like Dan Goldman and his friends
and the Democratic Party electors like to say, then we should see an investigation from
the Department of Justice based on this.
But I don't know, Cash.
I'm not exactly holding my breath.
They're going to enforce the law impartially on Dan Goldman like they would Donald Trump or or any supporter of the America First movement.
Yeah, no, it's just shocking, and I don't care about being the target, and I know you don't either, but it's shocking that members of Congress haven't sort of chorused around this to be like, wait a second, it's not just a lie about cash, they do that every other week.
He's castigating whistleblowers who've been brave enough to put forth credible information about waste, fraud, and abuse.
And I think that's something that I'd rather highlight than sort of us.
I'm glad we're the vehicle to get it out there, but talk about some of these whistleblowers.
You don't have to name them, but just so everybody knows, Jesse is doing pro bono legal services for one of these whistleblowers at the Cash Foundation that Jesse and I sit on.
We're helping financially.
I would like to say, on a quick side note, I wish I could cut a quarter million dollar check, like Sheila Jackson Lee said, and just dole out that kind of money.
I'm just not a part of the democratic machine, so I don't have that kind of money.
But who are these brave whistleblowers, Jesse?
I know you know them better than most anybody.
What are they doing for us?
Yeah, there are some really, really courageous people out there that are actually standing up to the permanent D.C.
bureaucracy at the FBI.
Um, particularly, and we are very proud to represent Garrett O'Boyle, um, who, uh, has put everything on the line to go and tell the truth, to go and say how the Department of Justice has targeted Christians, targeted conservative, um, and explain exactly how they've done that.
And of course, the retribution from the FBI is exactly what you'd expect, unfortunately, in these times.
Um, and this is, this is a guy who, Had a, uh, was, was a whistleblower pursuant to federal law, um, doing his duty as an American.
This is a, this is a veteran.
He was a, he was in the army.
Then he was a police officer and he was an FBI agent.
And after doing all that for his country and continuing to serve his country as, as a whistleblower, the FBI, what did they do?
When he packed up all his belongings and took his family, including his six week old daughter across the country.
uh... to to virginia uh... from kansas
they check in a immediately locked matter of uh... walked in and off fbi
property locked him out
wouldn't even give his belongings uh... so that he didn't even have uh... you know winter uh...
clothes and everything
for his family for his six-week-old daughter yet these are these the six six people
that are running the the fbi and in the part of justice yet people like your bill boyle
uh... people that have that courage remain unafraid they were that you just can't intimidate
him and and people uh... you know like c friend friends and stuff and other
market selling others that have been uh... doing uh... this this great great in
Well, Jesse, we're going to go to a break in about 30 seconds, but I do want to pick up on the connection to Sheila Jackson Lee here.
And also, where do you think this is going?
More importantly, what do we what do we need to be doing with the committee in Congress about these whistleblowers and how to safeguard them?
But more importantly, how to also put their information So America can see it.
We'll be right back after this commercial break.
You're listening to America First with guest host, Kash Patel, former acting director of
National Intelligence.
Thanks for joining us.
And we're back with America's lawyer and my dear friend, Jesse Binal.
Jesse, we've been talking about the brave whistleblowers and the participation of Sheila Jackson Lee and Representative Goldman.
Let's turn to Sheila Jackson Lee.
Now, it seems she can't tell the difference between a white man and a brown man, confusing Kyle Serafin, a brave FBI whistleblower, and myself.
We're both devastatingly handsome, I might add, along with Jesse Binal.
But you would think a black woman could distinguish between the two of us.
Yet, I don't know if it was her incompetence, her ineptitude, or just the fact that she's
sheer evil.
But how is it that she was throwing around half-million-dollar checks and falsely labeling
and accusing us of buying whistleblower testimony?
And what do we do next?
Yeah, that's a great question.
I don't think anybody would ever doubt her ineptitude.
It's been world-class for some years now.
But yeah, the fact that she got up on the dais at the committee hearing this past week and suggested wrongly that you or the Foundation had given half a million dollars to folks is just wrong.
We didn't do that? You know, everyday Americans would have loved to, but we didn't. And then she
also went even further and accused of being a crime.
And it's average, you know, everyday Americans that made those donations to these brave FBI whistleblowers and they didn't do it for any other reason than they were being retaliated against by the federal government and weren't getting any paychecks.
They're not right now.
They're not getting a single paycheck and they can't even go out and get another job because their security clearance remains under review,
which is the FBI's way of intimidating people like Garrett O'Boyle and C-Friend, Marcus Allen,
and this is their MO for intimidating people.
And Maxine and Sheila Jackson Lee and Barbara Lee and all the, Goldman, Adam Schiff,
love to play into the hand of these, of the FBI career bureaucrats.
And the unfortunate thing is that's because they've become the enforcement mechanism of the Democratic Party.
And so, of course, the Democrats in the committee are going to protect their own.
No, you're absolutely right.
I'm glad you highlighted the retaliation.
I'm also glad you highlighted the two-tier system of justice.
Remember that fellow named Eric Charmella who conjured up a whistleblower fake testimonial so that he could falsely impeach Donald Trump baselessly with his sidekick, Alexander Vindman?
You see the two disparate systems of justice, not just in play in the court system.
But in the halls of Congress.
And today, supposedly, Congress is taking some steps.
Some folks are writing letters to challenge Christopher Wray's testimony.
And what I want to hear from you on the other side of the break, Jesse, is what does Congress do?
What mechanisms are in place for them to correct the record, not just with Chris Wray, but to show that these FBI whistleblowers have been providing truthful, incredible information?
And what can they and others do to protect the system going forward and ensure We're still going.
merchants like Sheila Jackson Lee and Rep Goldman, who, by the way, we also refer to
the House Ethics Committee.
Any Republican member that wants to sign on to that, give us a call.
But we'll be back with Jesse Binal, America's lawyer.
Oh, OK.
My bad.
We're still going.
I don't know how to read or write, apparently.
So Jesse, what can we do out of the gate?
You have a wide breadth of legal expertise in constitutional law and criminal law, in defamation and congressional representation.
You just came out of a deposition.
We won't talk about today, but we'll get to it at a near point in the future.
What can we do?
What can we expect?
What should we tell Americans to do with Congress?
Cash, that's a great question.
And there's so much that can be done, but Congress is going to try to weasel out of doing it.
We need to make sure that our Republican members of Congress are given the courage to do the right thing, because unfortunately too often They are going to be looking for the excuses.
They're going to be looking for ways to blame other people and say that there's nothing they can do about it.
Let me tell you something.
The founders of this country gave us checks and balances for a reason.
And they foresaw the possibility that you would have an out-of-control Department of Justice or federal bureaucracy like the FBI.
And that's why they gave Congress the power of the purse.
The founders talked about the fact that when these agencies Uh, started abusing the civil rights of Americans.
Congress is duty bound to, uh, to rein them in.
And so, you know, I'm, I'm very disheartened to see, um, even Freedom Caucus members like, like Ken Bach out there, um, seemingly back down and back away from going after, uh, the FBI and going after their funding because that is constitutionally what they are supposed to do.
And there should be no excuses and every single American.
That cares about the Constitution and cares about reining in and out of control FBI and DOJ needs to call their member of Congress immediately and say that you will not vote for them ever again if they don't take away the funding and don't let them say that you need to direct your attention to the FBI or the Department of Justice.
You have to direct your attention to the members of Congress to go after their funding.
There's also something called the Holman Rule that allows them to specifically go after
individuals in the Department of Justice and the FBI and essentially fire them.
And Congress can basically fire them.
Congress has to do that.
It has to be everybody that right now is responsible for weaponizing the federal government, including
most importantly Jack Smith and his gang of thugs.
Now we're not talking about, and let's be clear, and I know you don't mean this as well,
we're not talking about a defund the police program.
We're talking about targeting funding.
We're talking about grounding Christopher Wray's private jet.
We're talking about taking away Merrick Garland's fancy toys.
We're not talking about the money that goes to the operators in the field who chase down child sex traffickers, and drug con artists, and murderers, and bank robbers, and everybody else.
That's what we're talking about, right, Jesse?
That's exactly right, Cash.
It has to do with Taking away their ability to be, to engage in political prosecutions and really persecutions and to weaponize the federal government and take away all their money doing that.
The FBI should be going after child sex offenders.
They should be going at child pornographers, at international terrorists.
There's any number of things that the FBI should be doing and they do it well, but we need to take away their funding.
And their fancy toys, like you said, for going after Americans who just want to exercise their constitutional rights.
Thanks so much, Jesse.
The Banal Law Group at banal.com.
And Jesse, congratulations on your wedding and your soon-to-be-a-father.
Thank you so much for being on the program.
You're listening to America First with guest host, Kash Patel, former acting director of
national intelligence.
Hey everybody, we're back with Jesse Binal of the Binal Law Group, and I think it's pretty timely that we have one of America's greatest legal minds on the show because President Donald Trump is going back to court tomorrow for another status hearing.
Jesse, can you give us a rundown of what's going to happen tomorrow, what to expect, and if there's going to be any consequential rulings?
Well, I think tomorrow what we're going to be seeing is them talking about how they handle classified information in this hearing.
So it's probably not going to be the biggest groundbreaking part of this case. But what I'll tell you is so far what I've
seen from President Trump's lawyers that are on this case is they are
just doing an outstanding job putting the record together, putting
together both a case and letting the judge know that this is something that
should be resolved and a motion to dismiss because this case has been
baseless from the very beginning.
Jack Smith should have never brought this case, but Merrick Garland knew very well that all he had to do is appoint an anti-Trump zealot like Jack Smith.
And that then, you know, Jack Smith was going to do everything he could to go after and try to indict President Trump because it's election interference, pure and simple.
So you brought up a great point.
I want to talk about it for the last minute or so that we have you.
You said they're going to be talking about the classified information.
For everybody that doesn't know, I know I worked on this when I was a national security prosecutor, but what do you mean when they're going to start talking about classified documents and procedures and rules?
What are they discussing?
What is happening?
Yeah.
Well, so anytime that you have to deal with classified information in a case, There are procedures laid out in a federal statute that govern how you handle the classified information, what information the government has to give you.
They will generally get the defense attorneys security clearances so that the defense attorneys can
actually see the classified information.
And so we're going to be doing a lot of, we're going to see where things kind of are administratively
in this.
I don't think you'll actually see President Trump in the courtroom.
I think this is just going to be the lawyers tomorrow and they'll be handling those issues.
Of course, I think in the long run, any sort of idea that this is, that President Trump
mishandled the classified information is just going to be completely disproven.
Now, I agree with you wholeheartedly, and now we're also seeing motions by the government to delay the trial, and now the media is blaming Donald Trump on delaying the trial, which is just not true.
What do you think, in terms of timeline, we're looking at for the overall case and sort of the arc of this case?
We've got about a minute left.
Yeah.
One of the things that we always see in cases like this is we look at how other cases that are similar have proceeded.
And in other cases, these things go on a year and a half, two years, two and a half years.
That's how long it takes, especially in a complicated case like this that includes classified information, or according to the government, includes classified information.
That's how long these things take.
So this case shouldn't be treated any different.
Donald Trump should not be railroaded just because Jack Smith wants to get him off the ballot.
Well, you heard it from America's lawyer, President Trump's lawyer, my lawyer, and if you don't know him, the great Jesse Binal.
Binal.com.
B-I-N-A-L-L.com.
Thank you so much my dear friend for being on the Seb Gorka show.
Hopefully we did him proud and congratulations again on your upcoming fatherhood.