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♪♪ I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First, and I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
Always a pleasure to sit in Seb's chair here on a booster seat, as the man is a giant.
He's actually on vacation, and I'm shocked, I will be surprised if he doesn't bust back in here, but at least we saw him on a plane, and he deserves a rest, so good for you, Dr. G.
Look, we got a lot to talk about.
It's going to be a great show.
But right now, Tucker Carlson is busy destroying the wannabe presidential candidates.
And one of these clips leads me into what I want to talk about after this.
I want to watch you guys to hear and watch Mike Pence sniveling and then telling us that he doesn't care about American problems.
He's worried about Ukraine.
We'll let somebody transfer some jets.
I'm sorry, Mr. Vice President.
I know you're running for president.
You are distressed that the Ukrainians don't have enough American tanks.
Every city in the United States has become much worse over the past three years.
Drive around.
There's not one city that's gotten better in the United States.
And it's visible.
Our economy has degraded.
The suicide rate has jumped.
Public filth and disorder and crime have Exponentially increased, and yet your concern is that the Ukrainians, a country most people can't find on a map, who've received tens of billions of U.S.
tax dollars, don't have enough tanks.
I think it's a fair question to ask, like, where's the concern for the United States in that?
Well, it's not my concern.
Tucker, I've heard that routine from you before, but that's not my concern.
What in the world is Mike Pence thinking?
First of all, what's he thinking for running?
He's got zero chance.
And it's not like he can be the VP again.
But that statement is just so stupid.
It shows, regardless of what you say after that to try and pull yourself out, you just said that the plight of the American people, as Tucker put it, filth and disorder, which was beautiful, is not your concern.
It's everybody's concern.
It's every single American's concern.
And one little bit in there, if you get a chance to watch that clip again somewhere, right when Tucker says, you're running for president, he says, thanks for noticing.
What a pathetic, what does he want to be?
Jeb Bush, please clap.
Look, I am not impressed by the presidential field beyond Trump and DeSantis, and we'll see how those two do.
I guess DeSantis is gonna catch a little bit of Tucker action.
We'll see how that goes.
If we can get a live update, we'll give that to you later in the show.
But what Tucker was asking him about is why is every politician and every intellectual so concerned about Ukraine?
Why on earth does Ukraine matter to a person in the United States like all of us?
We're sitting here.
Is Ukraine a strategic interest of the United States?
Now you can make a case.
There is a fair case to be made that pushing back Russian expansionism and aggression in Europe is a U.S.
strategic interest.
Okay, fine.
Make that case.
Then make the case for me why that requires us to continue escalating that war, upping the ante.
Oh, what, you need more money?
Here's some more money for you and your oligarch buddies to buy yachts with.
Oh, you need some more ammo?
Here's all of our artillery shells.
Right? We apparently used up all of our own artillery shells. So we got to give them cluster
munitions, which are banned by a couple international treaties, even though we didn't sign them. Still
banned. We're going to give them those because we're out of our own war stocks. We're giving
tanks now they want to give them F-16s.
They're training their pilots on F-16s.
All of this.
And they keep going.
I will not be surprised if at some point Joe Biden's up there reading off a prompter saying, it's vital that we give them tactical nuclear devices because Putin's bad and he reminds me of Trump.
It's absurd.
We have gone so far past anything vaguely resembling a U.S.
strategic interest in Ukraine that it's time to shut it down.
I don't know why, you know, it started off, oh, look at you crazy people talking about World War III.
You know, oh, that's just the least likely thing that could ever happen in the world.
This will be over soon once the U.S.
sends them some good munitions and then artillery and then all the rest of the stuff.
And yet Ukraine keeps getting thumped.
The Russians are absorbing a lot of losses.
The Russians have people and munitions and equipment for decades.
Ukraine does not.
They're dependent on us.
So we have to keep warring on Russia.
Now today, I think Biden went too far.
He called up 3,000 members of the U.S.
Reserves for what they're calling Operation Atlantic Resolve.
This is a support operation for our war against Vladimir Putin being operated in Ukraine.
So because we now don't have the necessary troops on active duty to conduct a war never voted on in Congress, they voted for giving Zelensky toys, but they never voted on having an actual war, which it seems we're doing, because we're calling up US troops to support it.
I'm kind of mad about this.
I don't know if you guys could tell.
I have been saying from the very start and on Seb's show, February 28th, year before last, I said this needs to end and it will end how it's going to end and everybody smart has known it's going to end with Russia keeping the Russian speaking provinces, the Donbass and Crimea and Ukraine having to take that loss, but keeping their country.
That's going to happen and we're going to keep going, apparently, until somebody decides that either the smart move happens or we just go ahead and roll right into World War III.
And I don't know how to stop it.
I don't know what to do because there are so many politicians so invested in this and have yet to make a clear case for why peace with Putin, and I'll give their case briefly.
The case is that if we don't decisively defeat Putin, he'll just come back and do it again later.
While he got so much of his toys chewed up in this failed attempt, he doesn't have what it takes to invade even Liechtenstein at this point.
So continuing to say we have to do this when Putin is demonstrably no longer a threat to anybody.
They're barely holding their own with their mercenary army and coups and everything else that's going on.
So I think at some point we need a little sanity to prevail here.
And I will note a slight piece of sanity happened at the NATO summit because Zelensky showed up and he's like, you guys got to let me in NATO.
And fortunately, Like I said, a little sanity prevailed and they didn't.
Can you imagine putting one of the two parties to an active land war in Europe into an alliance that requires us by mutual defense pact to support them?
Putting Ukraine and NATO right now would put the United States to war.
It's insane.
So they didn't do that.
I think that's, like I said, one of the few bright lights in what's otherwise a deranged, delusional, and unhealthy obsession with a need to punish Putin.
Putin doesn't matter that much.
He's old.
He's sick.
This was his big shot.
He's not going to take a loss, but he's not going to start another war because he hasn't got any toys or effort or support to do so.
So we need to get out of this.
We need to get all the way out of this.
By the way, I think you probably have all seen it.
That picture of Zelensky at the NATO treaty in his green, looks like a janitor's outfit, right?
And he's standing, all the important people are up on these steps and they're talking amongst themselves.
And he's looking back at the camera with this sad look on his face.
And it's real funny.
I've seen a couple versions of it where somebody put a broom in his hand.
Look, I don't think Zelensky is anywhere near the hero many people have made him out to.
I think if anyone ever does an accounting on where the money went, During this US-sponsored Ukrainian war, I think we're going to find out that Zelensky and all his oligarch friends now have billions of dollars of our money in their control and that it did not all go to fight a war they haven't managed to prosecute successfully and aren't going to.
And we're not going to join in.
So let's make sure that this ends now.
All right, we'll be back after the break with Darren Beattie, and we're going to talk about our good friend Ray Epps, who popped his little head up with a lawsuit against Fox.
And, huh, weird, after two and a half years, the feds are charging him.
I smell a rat.
That is great.
That was fun.
So they still have, um... Kim Reynolds is coming up to do some bill, and then I think Nikki Haley, she hasn't spoken yet, right?
Uh, no, apparently she's up next.
But it's supposed to be over at 5, Iowa time.
So it might be the third hour.
I'll try to get some cuts if I can.
Apparently, yeah, Haley's up next, and then I imagine, again, they'll save DeSantis for last.
Is Vivek there?
Yeah, he's gonna be there.
So that's another one.
Vimek ramalamadingdong.
Again, I think if one person's gonna walk away from this unscathed, it'll be him.
He and Tucker probably agree on most things.
He does have a record that he can say like, oh, you supported, you know, Ukraine, blah, blah, blah.
Like, Vivek doesn't have that.
Like, he's...
He's got a collection of very broad and generic policy proposals that match a good America First agenda.
And that's why he's there.
And he's articulate.
He's at like 10% now?
The debates haven't even happened yet.
Well, nobody owns him, that's the thing.
I like him.
We'll see if he can do anything late.
It won't be this round.
No.
Again, he's from Ohio.
But most people don't.
Win the first time.
You know what I mean?
All my other nominees.
Trump was just a rare.
You go up, you get a little Q rating bump.
Oh, everybody knows my name.
I've said some stuff, you know.
Now I'm a somebody.
Exactly.
Two and a half minutes.
Think we're about to have him on So should we actually do a poll
Or is that just because I think it'd be kind of funny.
Yeah, do it.
All right.
Again, we'd have to be your Twitter account that I got a subs account retweeted.
Okay, then I'll do it in the break.
Next break.
Two minutes.
Oh, Alex there with an interesting- I couldn't hear him.
He said, would you rather your tax dollars go to paying off student loans or fund Ukraine?
That's the one time I'd like to fund Ukraine.
Why can't we let the student loan people pay off their loans by fighting in Ukraine?
Why don't we stop giving student loans, then college wouldn't be 60 grand a year.
Shut down the student loan business.
If you make me choose that gun to my head, I'd choose student loans, because it's helping Americans.
Fuck.
I don't know.
That's just me.
That's why it's so expensive.
That's true.
We should completely destroy the student loan business.
It needs to be outlawed in the United States as far as I'm concerned.
That's true, too.
But I can see why that is a winning point for the Democrats to get ahead of student loans.
They can kill the Republicans politically with young voters.
But they're not, though.
They just fake it.
It doesn't matter, young people fall for it.
You gotta remember, my generation's stupid.
So this $89 billion, is that going back to the Supreme Court?
I mean, did he change something substantively in forgiving this round of loans?
He tried introducing a new workaround that's only like $30 billion, I heard, or something like that.
I heard $89, but whatever it is... Ah, what a guy.
That's a poison pill choice there, Alex.
That's rough.
That's a rough choice.
Alex obviously has student loans.
My daughter does.
He paid them off like two months before Biden announced it.
See, that's why you can't do it.
You can't reward the people.
You know what's funny?
I saw a graph today that showed that men have paid theirs off in vast majority and women haven't.
Well, that's because they only make 70 percent of it.
Right.
Well, no, it's because they have crap degrees.
Gender studies doesn't pay.
He said he was going to be just right on time.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest Uncle Jimbo!
It's Jim Hansen.
I am Jim Hansen, sitting in for Seb today, and there's a lot going on, but one of the things that, like a recurring case of herpes, came back to bother us is Ray Epps, who is... I don't even know who he is.
I guess I better not say anything that could get me sued, because Ray Epps, the only person on video inciting insurrection at the Capitol, both the night before and day of the January 6th riot, is now suing Fox News.
And helpfully, the feds have said that they are going to charge him with a crime, which would, I guess, supposedly prove that he wasn't a fed, as he was sometimes accused of being.
One of the guys who has been on top of all of the January sticks in ways that no one else has done is Darren Beattie of Revolver News.
So Darren, I smell rats and skunks and dead fish and all kinds of stuff around this.
What's your take?
Well, a couple of things are worth noting, and I would direct everyone to revolver.news for the definitive analysis of this recent development, and of course, for the original
reporting that ultimately precipitated this really bizarre and desperate attack on the part of the
regime to silence what I consider one of the smoking guns of the so-called Fed's erection. So let's
start with some of the facts. So this lawsuit is technically only against Fox News, although
I am named extensively in the complaint, and Revolver News is named extensively as the original
source reporting for the material on EPS.
I've not been sued yet, although I anticipate being sued.
Tucker Carlson in his independent capacity hasn't been sued.
So I think Ray Epps and really his lawyers, and I'm getting ahead of myself, the big kind of buried lead here, His legal representation is a guy called Michael Tater, who comes from deep within the bowels of the Democrat machine and national security nexus.
He's in the employment of disgraced Democrat hatchet man David Brock.
And was also a former employee of Perkins Coy, the Democrat affiliated law firm, that's basically the laboratory out of which the discredited Steele dossier was concocted.
So to count among Epps's unusual bedfellows, in addition to the DOJ, which has been protecting him for basically two and a half years, in addition to the New York Times, that wrote a fully dedicated puff piece on Epps, The only January 6th participant the New York Times wrote a puff piece on.
In addition to 60 Minutes that did a sympathetic segment on Epps, in addition to Adam Kinzinger, a man who spends a lot of time on all fours and who's never met a Trump supporter and a January 6th participant that he didn't want to see rotting in prison for less than 50 years.
And this guy's bending over backwards.
So all of these unusual suspects just kind of Circle the wagons to defend this guy who on paper would have been the perfect villain for January 6.
He's in camouflage.
He's a former Marine.
He's got his Trump hat on.
He's the former head of the Arizona chapter of the Oath Keepers, the most prosecuted and demonized militia group associated with January 6.
He's the only guy caught on camera as early as January 5th urging people to go into the Capitol
and methodically prefacing such exhortations with the remark,
I'm probably going to get arrested.
I'm probably going to go to jail for this.
Well, guess what? He isn't arrested.
He hasn't gone to jail yet.
And the question is, for what reason does he enjoy such unusual protection from these repercussions
that we would ordinarily expect?
And I've proposed the thesis based on my opinion and the best evaluation of research that it's very possible that he is not an authentic actor.
January 6, whether he's working as a federal informant, whether he's working for some government
agency that's not law enforcement, whether he is working for some cut out private organization
that's operating at the behest of such organization, or some other third party. I think that is
the best explanation for the unusual and extraordinary level of special consideration that he's enjoyed.
Well, now, the thing that, all right, I don't think anyone has laid it out as devastatingly
in a straight line as you just did, because there were no deviations from that.
That's one path from Ray Epps, the one guy saying, storm the Capitol, all the way to now Ray Epps, the guy who has been lionized the whole way down.
And now all of a sudden, the feds are going to charge him.
Now that's the part that just stinks to me.
All right, if he wants to sue, you know, him suing.
Okay, I get it.
If he's if he's what he says he is, you know, why not?
And Fox News is kind of weak right now.
You know, they're a good target.
There's a good chance you get another thing.
So there's so many dimensions to this.
There's the reports or the buried lead within the legal complaint saying that the Department of Justice notified him May of this year of their intention to ultimately charge
him first of all, why did they wait all of this time?
He was one of the his behavior was considered so egregious that he was one of the first 20 people
Put on the FBI's most wanted list for this after revolver dot news created a national discussion
Exploring the possibility of federal involvement in January 6. He was curiously and quietly taken off this list
So assuming that he will actually be charged with something Why would they wait for this long and furthermore? Why
would they extend him the special and unusual?
courtesy of notifying him of the charge in advance where The usual procedure for such high-profile J6 defendants is for, you know, people busting down the door with guns.
I know a lot of defendants who have experienced that who are actually, you know, innocent or being vastly and overwhelmingly and unjustly overcharged.
And then there's, you know, there's so many dimensions, but I have to have to talk about the Fox element of it.
It is kind of ironic, isn't it, that they're going after Fox for Tucker's stuff after Fox has fired Tucker.
So it's like now it's kind of Fox's headache, at least for now, although I do expect them to ultimately go after Tucker and Revolver.News.
But for now, it's Fox News' headache.
And I fully expect Fox to settle, not just because they're a weak and soft target and there is the Dominion precedent.
And the legal complaint in the Epps case is very much aware and trying to ride that dominion wave
to squeeze some money out of Fox.
I think Fox will be compliant.
And in fact, from Fox's position, it probably is in their interest from their point of view
to settle because such a settlement would only serve to reinforce,
I think from their perspective, the position that Tucker was indeed a liability
and therefore they were kind of retroactively justified in firing him.
If they do a big settlement, they can say, see, told you Tucker was a big liability.
They do a settlement and the regime kind of janitor journalists who don't bother to look into things will.
Gleefully and breathlessly report that the reporting, the legitimate reporting that we've done on EPS has been sort of, you know, refuted in a court of law.
So there are a lot of people who benefit from the Fox settlement.
I expect that to happen.
And then after that happens, there's a good likelihood that the EPS legal counsel, because remember, these people aren't just after money.
The David Brock people are political operatives first and foremost, and they have every Well, Darren, obviously you can take the heat.
You wouldn't have started and played this game if you couldn't.
And obviously you have that greatest of all, you know, defenses against libel or slander.
You have the truth.
So thank you for what you've been doing.
Thank you for that great breakdown of all of it.
I don't think there is a straight piece, it may be a straight line, But it's all lies down that straight line.
Darren Beattie, founder of revolver.news.
I'm Jim Hanson.
We will be back with more America First Radio after the break.
Thanks for watching.
There's no point in interrupting him.
Everything he's saying, I can pretend it's really important that I interject brilliant thoughts for myself.
You know, but when a guy like that is just nailing it... Oh, yeah.
You just go, brother.
He's great at explaining it.
Yeah, and he's got all the... And it's his game!
You know, it's not like he's... Yes, he's tooting his own horn, because it's his horn.
He's the one... You know, exactly.
He wrote the score.
So, I think that was... That was fun.
Like these handful, like him, like Julie Kellen, these others, who are just hammering this stuff, and for good reason.
Yeah, and somebody has to.
And, you know, it's gonna come back to bite you.
But, you know, that's what liability insurance is for, and like I said, the best defense against liable and slander is the truth.
It's 100%.
Yeah, the moment I was convinced Ray Epps is probably a fed is when the New York Times wrote that puff piece about him.
I'm like, find any other J6-ers who's gonna have a puff piece.
Did they write it for Jacob Chansley or for, you know, any of these others?
Like, no.
Ridiculous.
And the fact that, okay, from the very start, this is the only guy anybody's seen saying Storm the Capitol.
Oh, but you know that that's not a big deal.
Yeah, it's so sketch.
All right, let me see if I can get this pole out.
There we go.
Do do do do do do do do.
Oh, then Jared. Do you want him for one segment or two?
He can do two if you want.
Greg Jarrett?
Yeah, if he'll do two.
There's a lot to talk about.
Oh yes.
What's up?
Oh, I'm doing the poll.
Should Jim talk about Gen X better than Gen Z or Gen Z worse than Gen X?
That's how you win it right there.
You guys choose.
I don't have a dog in this fight.
I just happen to be the lead dog of Gen X. I'm just, I'm in the middle.
I'm a millennial.
I'm neither generation.
Yeah, you guys got screwed, man.
Gen Z, yeah.
Gen Z is so... A friend of mine said it to me the other day.
On the one hand, she's super jealous of Gen Z when it comes to their politics because all they know of right-wing politics is Donald Trump.
Like, they don't remember Bush.
They don't remember, you know, McCain or any of that.
All they know is Donald Trump.
But then at the same time, they've got, like, TikTok and all this degenerate leftist nonsense.
Hey, when is Jared?
is he next? Or is he...
I don't know.
Thank you.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo!
It's Jim Hansen.
Alright, well that was a lively segment last time with Darren Beattie from Revolver News who literally put Ray Epps in the spotlight and what everybody saw was a guy who looks guilty as sin all of a sudden becoming the darling of our weaponized justice system and the media and everybody on the left from them politicians.
Why are they all so convinced that no one should say anything bad about Ray Epps when they've managed to say horrible things?
They have treated grannies who were busted for trespassing in Trump gear as if they were worse than the Taliban, but somehow this big clown is off limits.
Nobody's buying it.
They don't buy it.
We're not buying it.
And I just love, here's why I love this the most.
You've got the guy who for two and a half years has gone uncharged, no charges, not inciting insurrection, not being a member of a conspiracy or sedition, or even a single charge for trying to interrupt a public event, for the guy who said, go into the Capitol.
You could say, go to the Capitol.
Trump said, go to the Capitol, peacefully and patriotically protest.
Nah, that's not what Epps said.
Epps said, go into the Capitol.
I'm probably going to get arrested for this.
Because he knew what he was doing was a crime.
That's inciting a crime, at a minimum, of breaking into the Capitol.
So all of that happens, and all of a sudden he's like, ooh, no, no, we shouldn't talk about him.
Darren and Revolver News shine a light on him.
And everybody else with an above room temperature IQ manages to look at that and say, why isn't he being charged?
Now, what would be the simplest explanation for why this guy, who definitely incited crimes, to not be charged with a crime when everybody else, who even walked by the Capitol, caught, you know, a charge of sedition.
And it was not a big jump to say, it would not surprise us if he was a Fed.
So you can't sue me.
I'm just asking questions here.
I'm not saying Ray Epps is a Fed.
I'm saying if you look at the situation and conclude that Ray Epps is a Fed, that's not a stretch.
Or that he's associated with FEDRA, like Darren said.
Some sort of connectivity.
Now we get to now.
Everything's passed.
Dominion settles with FOX.
EPS is like, you know what?
I could use some money.
I mean, how much would they give?
$900 million to Dominion?
They talked about me.
I gotta be worth $9 million.
And I mean, he's a useless turd.
So it's not like he's got any marketable skills, especially at this point when all decent people know he's some flavor of scumbag.
We may not know the exact flavor.
So he says, I should sue.
And of course, he's got sleazy David Brock associated, which incidentally, David Brock, cokehead extraordinaire, and right winger turned left winger, political slime ball.
All right, people associated with him are never good.
So that's the crew that's helping him sue.
And then all of a sudden, now the Justice Department decides, you know what?
We should probably charge Ray with a crime.
Now I'm going to go out on a limb here.
I'm going to bet it's not one of the biggies.
They're not going to charge him with seditious conspiracy or inciting insurrection or interfering with the governmental functions, the counting of the electoral vote or any of that stuff.
They're not going to charge him with even a felony.
They're going to find a nice, low, little, you know, disorderly conduct kind of charge so they can say they charged him because, hey, if they charged him, he couldn't be a fed.
So literally now, in my opinion, we have the federal government helping a scumbag of some flavor, pick your flavor, to sue Fox over something he did.
Fox didn't do anything wrong here.
Fox pointed out the obvious things that all of us saw.
Now Epps is suing and he's got the justice department running PR to make him look good.
Well, you know, obviously it bolsters his case if he can say, well, I have now been charged.
Um, how dare, how could they possibly be saying these things about me?
Like it makes perfect sense that I'm some sort of fed or somehow I skated when nobody skated.
Well, The guy who dropped the pipe bomb skated.
We don't know who he is either.
But everybody they could identify, and they're still scarfing people up.
You know, they are still trying to charge people over January 6th.
Biggest operation in Justice Department history.
And now, I bet they drop a tiny little dimply little misdemeanory charge on Epps just so he can say, I was charged.
I'm not a Fed.
But hey, Fox, pay me.
You know, and we'll see if he goes after Tucker.
I hope he doesn't go after Darren.
Darren doesn't need to spend the money.
But whatever.
Darren again.
He has the truth.
We will be back after the break with more America First Radio.
So I am Jim Hansen sitting in for Dr. G, who is taking a well earned vacation.
It's alright, you got a lot of great guests on.
You want me to just say phone number in your ear, or what?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, when I got like a couple open segments ahead of me, I should be opening up the phone.
I just forget because I'm obsessed with hitting the number.
Don't worry about it.
It's fine.
We can play music.
Just go short if you have to.
But if you want, when you come back right now, just do the phone number.
That'll get calls usually.
I will do that.
Top of the segment.
A lot of times people will wait because they think there's guests coming up.
But if you say that you're going to take calls now, then they'll call in.
Well, I will tell them to call in because I love talking to people.
Oh, all right.
It's just the first time you've ever guest hosted without Slickter as a segment.
Holy crap.
I think he might have once before.
Yeah, Kurt was gone one time, but it's rare.
We got that, we got an agreement.
We got a mutually assured destruction guest agreement.
I think there was one time you guest hosted two days back-to-back and I think that's what that was.
You had Kurt on one day.
Is he away today or what?
He's uh, yeah, he's traveling.
That last, the last time you hosted and he was on and he was sick.
Like that was still one of the funniest things.
And then we're dogging him.
That was the most fun was dogging him in the break.
In the break he comes on Skype and you're like, dude, you look like shit.
You know what I need to do?
I need to pull that out and post that.
He was funnier when he was, he's funny always, but he's funnier even when he's ordinary like that.
Yeah, yeah, because he's too, if he's too manic, it's not, sometimes it's super, but also him as crotchety, sickly Kurt was hilarious.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because he was pissed at the world.
Kurt Schlichter, Pissed at the World.
That sounds like a great title for a sitcom.
So he's going to be here sometime... In D.C.?
Yeah, in the first week of September.
Oh, nice!
And so what we're going to try and set up is both him and me in here as guests with Seb.
So keep that in mind.
I'll get you dates.
Oh, yeah.
But that would just be fun.
A whole hour of that.
Yeah, we'll do like the... There you go.
Yeah, we'll do the warlord hour.
Oh, if that could be like the manhood hour, like both of them, or something like that, that'd be dope.
Like we'll arm wrestle.
A three-way arm wrestle.
How will that even work?
I don't know how that works.
That's so great.
That's so jokes.
It turns gay at some point, though.
You get too many dudes arm wrestling and all of a sudden... monkey box.
Oh, I forgot about that.
That was a thing for like five minutes and then they realized... It's back!
The science is undeniable that it was a gay thing.
I know, we can't stop talking about that.
Stop talking about that.
How come the only people catching this are gay?
Alright.
Biology is a social construct, don't you know?
Tell that to the disease.
Where are we?
342?
This is the D segment.
How long is it?
Eight minutes.
Eight minutes.
I need something to talk about.
Fuck.
You always enjoy talking about Ukraine, so if you want to maybe stress that out.
I think I beat Ukraine to death.
How about 2024 then, perhaps?
Yeah, we'll talk a little bit about the candidates.
I'll give my breakdown.
That's what I'll do.
Sounds like a plan.
Since Tucker's actually giving them a vivisection.
Giving Vivec a vivisection.
Haley's next.
Oh, apparently there just now is someone on stage getting ready to introduce, I think.
Yeah.
Ahem.
Ahem.
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Well, hey, I want to talk to you guys.
I'm going to do a little presidential candidate breakdown.
But anything you guys want to talk about, I'm willing to break that up.
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since Tucker is is busy destroying candidates I'm still wondering is he
gonna vivisect Vivek Ramaswamy I think they'll get along.
We were talking about that.
They're pretty simpatico.
And all right, I'll start with Vivek.
This dude is sharp.
He's got game.
The only thing I don't like about him is he seems completely manufactured as a candidate.
Like, if you were going to, let's lab grow a candidate.
You know, you're going to grow a super smart guy with business who's got all the right things and he's articulate.
And he may be genuine.
I don't know enough about it.
All right.
So I don't want to I don't want to dog him.
He's got traction.
He pulls up around 10% sometimes, you know, which the Ron DeSantis camp's going, whoa.
So I think he is he is important to the race for one reason.
He may be the best and most articulate speaker about the policies that America first needs.
He does a tremendous job of hitting those things.
And so I think we got to have somebody like that.
Somebody has to be able to dig down and explain it, and not get off track, not turn too hyperbolic about it or anything else.
So I am glad we have Vivek Ramaswamy in, and who knows?
What's it going to be maybe?
Treasury secretary, FTC chairman, I don't know.
Who knows?
He could get a job.
He's getting some good recognition of his name.
He's probably got a book to sell.
Everybody's got a book to sell.
So all of those things are a good reason to go ahead and run a race.
You know you're not going to win.
Because there's two people.
Who was it?
George Will, I guess Eric told me in the prep, was saying that, or maybe it was Jeff, but whatever.
Was George Will said someone other than Trump or DeSantis is going to be the candidate?
No, George, go lay down to take a nap.
No one but Trump or DeSantis has a prayer.
And right now, you know, we're way too far out to tell.
But Trump is looking strong.
He always has.
He has been the presumptive nominee.
from the start.
It's going to take something to knock him off.
So I think what we have is those two.
And then we have the running for other reasons candidates who are, OK, I don't blame them.
You know, Mike Pence just got his butt kicked by Tucker.
He may he should probably drop out after that.
I mean, that was embarrassingly bad.
And I mean, what is what is Pence?
Pence was on the ticket Because people worried Trump was a little too crazy.
They're like, okay, if Trump's a little too crazy, what if we had a very calm, you know, pastor at the church-like guy who's never done anything wrong, you know, who will enable all of us to sleep well at night?
As the VP?
Okay, and he brings a nice, solid Midwestern background, you know?
I mean, there was no reason to do that.
On the Warlord show with Kurt Schlichter, I said, anybody who hates Mike Pence is working too hard.
There's just nothing there to hate.
So that also means there's just nothing there to love enough to want him to be president.
We're not at the point where we need that much.
We don't need that much of a safety net.
So we'll see.
I don't think he has a chance in the world to do any of this.
I think Nikki Haley might be up on stage with Tucker right now, and I think that may generate some quality clips, because she's got some dumb ideas.
She is a classic establishment, straddle the line, you know, try and please everybody kind of candidate who, you know, she's never, she, on the surface, if you said, wow, you know, she's a former governor.
She's got executive experience.
She's got a little bit extra melanin.
She happens to be a person of color.
You know, she's got all of these intangibles that should make her a good candidate.
And yet they don't.
They don't.
And part of it is because she's a squish.
When she tries to take a difficult or an edgy position, it's so obviously manufactured that nobody buys it.
There's no fire in there.
And I think on our side, at least on the Republican side, especially in the primary, you got to show something, you know, you got to show you're a fighter, you're somebody, you're going to take it to the streets.
Because the reason this became the party of Trump was because we were sick of, let's say, the party of Pence and Haley, who, you know, they're not going to fight, you know, from Jump Street, When you walk into a room with those two, no fights are going to happen.
There will be zero animosity.
There will be no antagonistic behavior or anything.
So, you know, I don't know.
I don't know if Chris Christie's at this thing, but who cares?
The only thing Chris Christie brings is the opposite of Haley and Pence.
If Chris Christie's in the room, You know the buffet will be a wasteland because he will destroy that, but you also know somebody's going to take some verbal abuse.
And good!
That's entertaining.
But in the end, is that enough to put you over the hump?
Never has been.
I mean, come on, he's governor of New Jersey, which I believe is a state if it's not a mafia stronghold.
But whatever it is, and get mad at me, Jersey.
Come at me, bro.
Chris Christie just is a non-candidate.
He's not even running for vice president.
He's running because he doesn't have any other marketable skills.
And he can raise money and stay in nice hotels and have people say nice things about him.
And that's really all he's got.
And, you know, who cares?
I understand that the Republican Party will hold these.
It's how we do things, OK?
But it would be—and maybe it's not bad, you know, that we have these distractions from the main bout.
You know, maybe we should have like mini cage matches.
You know, like, like, put Nikki Haley and Chris Christie in a cage together.
I don't know.
You know, do something else before we get to the actual, you know, battle royale, which is Trump to Santas.
And we're going to find out, you know, when, when the early, all, all of this garbage now means nothing because it's political junkies like us who are watching.
America's busy.
America is at the lake with their kids.
You know, they're at soccer camp.
They're on vacation visiting their family.
They are not doing this.
Those of us who like to play this game, we obsess about it and we think it matters.
Oh, but right now this is happening and this guy said this and it's going to be the last thing.
You know, the last word on this will be his dumb statement saying Mike Pence said it's not my concern.
Well, I mean, for Pence, it's not the last thing, because he was never a thing at all.
He was going nowhere.
So I think, you know, let's enjoy this for what it is.
It's a chance to play politics for those of us who do that as a hobby.
But let's not pretend this is real and these things matter, because until we've got a couple states under our belt, You know, and they're actually fighting it out for delegates and votes.
The rest of this is just games we play.
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There's no one listening to the show.
Eh, that's alright.
We have a job to do.
Oh, I gotta do some... I should read some gun stuff.
That's next hour, right, Alex?
Yeah, but I got three reads, right?
Yeah, but they're all on the second hour.
They're all on the second hour.
So you can do an AMAC if you want.
I'll do an Association of... No, I'm doing that, like, Do we like them?
AMAC?
They're good guys.
They're like AARP, but not left-wing commies?
AARP, yeah.
You can do with this segment if you want us to knock it out.
out.
All right.
Hey, cut the mic for a sec.
All right.
We're done telling secrets.
Let the Rumble chat wonder.
What were they talking about?
The world will never know.
Yeah, OK, Haley's not on stage yet.
It's still Glenn Beck and other commentators just talking.
It's been a while.
What are they doing?
I don't know.
Do they not know?
Blaze is a professional organization.
They should know how to do this.
Oh, they have Kerry Lake on their panel right now.
That's interesting.
Yeah, I'm wondering where Haley is.
I'm genuinely not surprised.
Maybe she ran.
If they're scared, yeah, they see what Tucker just did.
She saw Tucker kick the crap out of Mike Pence and she's like, I ain't going up there!
It's literally that meme of the Grim Reaper going door-to-door-to-door.
It's like, you're next, you're next, Nikki.
Oh, man.
I would not be surprised if DeSantis bails.
No.
I mean, he already bailed out of CPAC and then the TPUSA thing.
He's already there.
Yeah, if you're there, you can't believe.
Oh, Nikki Haley's walking up on stage now.
Alright, yeah.
I can understand why DeSantis isn't going to TPUSA, alright?
Do you really want a bunch of, you know, young punks being egged on by Benny Johnson to call you names?
I thought Benny Johnson likes DeSantis?
Does he?
Yeah, he's supposed to be Santa Claus.
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Let's take Glenn from Phoenix.
Yes, sir.
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There are a lot of people calling in about The Sound of Freedom, and a lot of people are wondering or they're speculating as to why the left hates this movie, and I'm going to give you the correct answer.
So we as a society, and I'll give you the example here, when a high school teacher, a male, a straight male, Um, has sex with like a 14 or 15 year old, he gets thrown in jail.
And we as a society, we don't accept that at all.
We say that that's not acceptable, you're gonna get thrown in jail, right?
And so, the sound of freedom, what the left hates is they're exposing, it exposes some of theirs.
Let me give you the example.
When a little girl is trafficked, she's trafficked to men, right?
But I've never ever heard of a situation where little boys are trafficked to 20, 30, 40 year old women.
So, if little boys are being trafficked to men, it would seem logical that these men are homosexual.
And they don't want to lump any of their group, any LGBT group, with the trafficking of children.
So I always ask Democrats, well, when little boys are trafficked, they're not trafficked.
I've never heard of an incident where little boys are trafficked to 20, 30, 40-year-old women.
That's a fair point.
I don't know what the stats on that are, but I can tell you, I agree with you that the reason the left is attacking this movie is because it shines a light on too many of their friends, whatever the persuasion.
Hollywood, pervert.
Period.
You know, whatever flavor of perversion you want, Hollywood has it.
That's what they have.
That's who they are.
That is their entire raison d'etre, is to take the musings and noodlings of the deranged perverts and turn them into something they call culture.
And I hope we manage to progress past that and build our own better culture.
Because theirs is filth and garbage.
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Well hey, we got a caller in L.A., and I just, I love L.A.
So I want to see what Brent has to talk about this time.
Hi Jim, great talking to you again.
You know, I'm wondering if the Republicans will finally get serious about the true Democrat coup on January 6th and ask the fake fraud FBI Ray some other questions, like coming from... I'm just going back to Nick Searcy's brilliant documentary from 2021 called Capital Punishment.
And I want to know more, you know, Ray Epps is a nice start, but what about John Sullivan, the BLM Antifa instigator that was on site?
Little weasel.
Yeah, and how about Michael Byrd's cold-blooded murder of Ashley Babbitt and Dr. Simone Gold's door being kicked in by the FBI without any reason?
And what about why Nancy Pelosi refused to have Trump's 20,000 National Guards on site?
It just, there are so many questions, and here's the problem I have.
I think all too often our Republican representatives in their oversight roles never manage to get coordinated, because with five minutes or so to talk, they all want to get their little bit done, and so consequently we never get a coherent path through any of those things.
We get a surface look at it, the left deflects and lies, and then all of a sudden we're lost again.
You know, so I wish just for a second all of the Republicans on whatever the next hearing is would say, let's get in a room.
What is the most vulnerable point of whoever we're talking to?
You know, say it's one of the social media weasels.
What do we all want to get?
And let's line our questions up so they form a logical path from here to there that shows something and get this guy on the record having to either admit or deny A crime or misprision of something.
Whatever.
And they never do that.
They all want to do their own thing.
Hey, Jeff, do we have the clip for DEI yet?
Okay, all right.
What I want to mention is there's a couple things going on coming up.
We're going to talk with Greg Jarrett about just exactly the topic Brent brought up.
How the government has just managed, not just on January 6th, January 6th may be the most egregious abuse of power.
In our history, that the government has actually focused directly the powers against citizens in a way that sends them to prison.
You know, we're not just talking about now, OK, well, it's the IRS and I might get a fine.
No, we've sent people to prison on charges that are vastly overcharged.
In a situation where they can't get a fair trial in DC, so if they go to trial, they're going to lose.
If they don't go to trial, they end up having to plead to charges that are way over what they ever should have had to.
And you've got all of these things going on, and we have yet to find any coherent way to push back.
So Greg Jarrett's been on that for a long time.
He is just an assassin on topics related to the Department of Justice and the rest of the permanent bureaucracy security assassination squad.
One thing, though, I think, you know, on the list of things that I like that came out of Congress this week, there were two things.
One, Senator Rand Paul introduced a bill where he is going to make it, you know, at least try to make it a crime for the federal government to coordinate with the tech companies to censor protected speech.
Now you might think, well I'm not most of this audience, but some people might think that that's already in there, why that's the essence of the First Amendment.
And yet somehow we had the federal government, large numbers of branches, it's not like it's just one agency.
There were like eight or ten agencies, and the intelligence agencies, We're going ahead and presenting to the social media companies accounts, posts, and issues that they wanted squashed.
And basically at that point, you know, oh, gee, I'm, you know, Yole Roth at Twitter.
Of course I'm going to do it.
First of all, I agree with them.
And these are issues that we share because they were all leftist supported issues.
But then the other thing they did is you've got, you know, if for some reason Yole Roth didn't want to do that, You've got the power of the federal government standing right there in Platt.
It's an 800-pound gorilla emailing you saying, um, excuse me, Mr. Twitter employee, if you could find some time in your busy schedule, would you mind taking a look at this tweet over here that said mean things about vaccines?
We think it's nasty and we think, you know, that you should take a look at it.
Okay, now does that say you, Twitter, take that down?
No.
But that's not how this works.
You don't have to directly do that.
Can a normal person look at that and say, is that the federal government pressuring a social media company to take an action?
And the answer is, of course it is.
Of course it is.
And they did.
So Rand Paul, you know, there's also this lawsuit that Missouri and Louisiana, the attorneys general, brought against Twitter and some of the other criminals and the Biden administration for doing all this.
That's where this, you know, the evidence about this came out of.
The proof that they were doing this, multiple federal agencies on multiple issues were pressuring the social media companies to censor American citizens.
So now the judge in that case said, I've looked at this and I'm shocked.
I'm literally stunned by the amount of badness that they did and issued an injunction against the Biden administration saying you can't meet with these social media companies to discuss these tweets and accounts and other things that you want taken down.
And then, of course, all of a sudden, what about all the terrorist cases and all that?
And the judge had literally taken care of that, saying, this doesn't apply to terrorist cases and things like that.
So they still hollered about it.
But now Rand Paul, one of the good guys, one of the few Congress people I respect, introduced a bill.
Going ahead and making this an actual crime to do it with penalties, which is what's so often missing.
You know, there's so many things that they will do in their abuse of power, and there's no recourse.
You know, what are you gonna do?
You gonna get them fired?
That's almost impossible with federal employees.
If they're high enough up, are you gonna impeach them?
Maybe, but that's a whole rigmarole.
Not that we shouldn't be impeaching him.
I want to see Wray and Mayorkas and Garland at a minimum.
I think I passed Biden.
I don't think there's any point in impeaching Biden because he's eventually going to get rolled out of there in a wheelchair and taken off to Rehoboth Beach.
All right, so that was good news.
All right, that was one piece of good news, and we'll see where it goes.
You know, I mean, if it gets out of the Senate, which it probably won't, and gets the House, it might have a chance.
But there's no way Biden's signing it.
It's his team who's doing it.
He's like, oh boy, here's a bill that would punish my friends for doing what I want them to do, cheating and violating the Constitution.
I find it unlikely That Joe Biden will sign that bill.
But good on Rand Paul for introducing the legislation.
That's all he can do.
You know, he's in the minority.
He can't make it happen, but he can make them stop it and hopefully get a vote.
Mitch McConnell, he better get a vote.
You better fight for a vote.
One other good thing that happened was the House passed out the National Defense Authorization Act.
And yeah, there's garbage galore, and of course there's more money for my good friend Zelensky.
There had to be.
But there's also a couple other good things, one of which is Representative Jim Banks managed to get an amendment into that bill.
That goes ahead and stops diversity, equity and inclusion operations at the Pentagon.
Now I'll tell you one thing I saw a quote this week from the Secretary of the Army saying that she believed.
She, this non-warrior who is now running the United States Army, thinks that having a warrior caste where multiple people, you know, multiple generations from the same family join the army is a bad thing.
And we shouldn't have a military that has a warrior caste.
We should have a military that better represents the United States and looks like all parts of the United States.
Because somehow that's going to win wars.
You know what wins wars?
Warriors win wars.
And the kind of families that do that are the ones who win wars.
In my family, my dad, two tours in Vietnam, my uncle, Vietnam.
I served.
My brother served.
My brother-in-law served.
My nephew served.
My wife has more combat deployments than most people who've done anything.
She's a paratrooper, fourth bird in the desert storm.
There is nothing wrong with having a warrior cast.
Somebody has to do it, and it should be if you're running a military whose job is war, or better yet, deterring war, instead of having sweetness and light and the milk of human kindness running through the veins of a bunch of people wearing camouflage.
You might want to have a collection of people who actually freeze the blood and send shivers down the spines of our enemies so they don't want to fight us.
But hey, what do I know?
It's not like I'm one of these whiz-bang generals who's won all the wars we've won since...
When?
When was the last war we won?
I'm curious.
You call it Desert Storm, technically a victory by the rules.
Past that, kind of hard-pressed to see how you jag-offs are doing any good for us.
Knock it off.
OK, after the break, we are going to be talking with Greg Jarrett about the abuses of state power and what we can do to shut them down.
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And now here's somebody on Rumble.
Media matters if they have any Ability at all to play this game should have that clip, right, from the rumble chat.
Jim Hansen says he loves cocaine.
The Bidens, man.
Do you want to come in with the Trump cut then, talking about it, to set it up?
It's kind of funny.
Sure.
Yeah, play it.
Let's hear it.
I don't doubt that it's funny.
Go ahead.
What is your reaction when you see cocaine in the White House?
Can you even believe that's possible?
Well, you saw I put out a truth.
I know most of your people aren't truth, because I think truth is better than anything out there.
But I put out a truth.
It's, in my opinion, it's Hunter and probably Joe.
Because, you know, you watch Snow at the beginning of his speech, and he's got a little life.
Not much, but he's got a little life.
By the end of the speech, he's a disaster.
He can't even find his way off the stage.
So, there's something going on there, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was for both of them.
I think it's for both of them, but that's my opinion.
The Bidens, man, putting the white in White House.
Wow.
Nice.
Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.
Yeah, well let's do that.
We can get Secret Service out of the way first, then.
And then we'll go to the bigger problems.
Okay.
So you're still going to do... You want to come in with that cut, or do you want to do car read first, and then tee up the cut?
It's so complicated, man.
Making these... I need to do the read, because otherwise... Right.
So yeah, let's open with the read.
And then... And then actually, let me... It's up to you.
What's his book again?
Trial of the Century.
I'm not going to tell you.
Just be ready.
I could go either way.
Who knows?
He's wild.
He's out of control.
It's like two-faced flipping a coin.
You know the funny thing is about cocaine.
Since we're talking about cocaine, I have a good buddy who had a wicked case of PTSD and kind of went off the rails when he came back and literally was in a Lamborghini, rented, snorting coke off the ass of a hooker.
Now, unlike Hunter Biden, he didn't take pictures.
He didn't film it, yeah.
That's the craziest thing.
Why would you film any of that?
Well, I mean, what's it cost him?
Nothing.
He thinks there's going to be a Netflix documentary about him, that he decided to document his whole life.
You know, there will be.
I'm sure there's at least one in production right now.
On Netflix?
With the Obamas on the board?
That's the thing.
That's the thing.
Okay.
Oh, 40 seconds.
He's on the line.
Okay.
I'll be ready with either element.
Do we, we got the Coke one and we got... The other one is Kirby on the DEI.
Oh yeah, I don't think we need that one.
Okay.
Kirby's not funny.
Right.
Do you need any of the other clips while you're doing my interview?
I... I don't think so.
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OK, we're going to be joined now by Greg Jarrett, who's a legal and political analyst for Fox News Channel and also author of the book, The Trial of the Century, which is about the Scopes Monkey Trial.
And Greg, I just got to tell you, we all knew that monkey did it, didn't we?
We knew he was guilty.
He killed that woman.
You know, this was the greatest free speech battle in American history, and yet most people are unaware of it, which is why I wrote the book.
I found the Original trial transcript in the dusty archives of the courthouse in Tennessee.
And that's what the book is based on.
Well, and thank you for doing that, because it's one of the greatest battles over how we deal with difficult issues.
Evolution.
You're not having a more complicated issue.
Are we going to hide it?
Is religion going to dictate?
Is free speech going to dictate?
And it was two of the smartest people in the country fighting it out, you know, in a courtroom.
It was brilliant stuff.
And one destroyed the other.
I mean, his intellect and his ability in front of a judge and jury was unrivaled.
And he did something astounding.
He put the prosecutor, William Jennings Bryan, on the witness stand and he utterly destroyed and broke the man so much so that Ryan laid down for a nap and never woke up.
It's an astonishing story.
Well, I commend it to everybody because Trial of the Century by Greg Jarrett reminds us that we have important issues that are protected by the Constitution.
And it's Second Amendment hour.
Second Amendment may protect the rest, but the reason we have the Second Amendment is so stuff like the First Amendment survives.
That's right.
Well said.
All right.
Well, thank you.
I want to talk with you, though, about the abuses of the Constitution by our state security apparatus and our Justice Department.
And there have been some tremendously telling revelations about the abuse.
I was talking last segment about the Missouri and Louisiana case where there is now an injunction stopping the Biden administration from outsourcing censorship to the social media companies.
Yeah, I mean, the United States Supreme Court long ago said that the government cannot get others what the Constitution prohibits the government from doing itself.
You know, it is censorship by proxy.
And so, you know, the example here is the most infamous one, where the FBI pressured and cajoled and coerced social media companies into censoring and suppressing the laptop story.
You're right about the judge who issued the injunction.
He said this was an Orwellian ministry of truth of the FBI, the most massive attack on free speech in United States history, and then, you know, you watch Merrick, excuse me, Christopher Wray, the FBI director on Wednesday, and he denied it all.
And how can you have the unmitigated gall to sit there—I guess because they don't get punished, which is what we need to get to—but to go ahead and lie about something that is now in court records?
You know, as one thing, a lot of this came out—first of all, the lawsuits were filed beforehand.
The Missouri and Louisiana lawsuit was filed a while ago.
But when Elon Musk bought Twitter and released a lot of the information about the direct coordinations, Yeah, and he's ignoring the testimony of his own FBI agent, who told Congress that, yeah, we did this.
and HHS and DHS, everybody was sending over censorship requests. And now Ray's just going
to sit there and say, nah, we didn't do that. Yeah. And he's ignoring the testimony of his
own FBI agent who told Congress that, yeah, we did this.
And we alerted people ahead of time of a, you know, a hack and leak operation, the Hunter
Biden related to Hunter Biden.
And then of course, when the laptop story came out, they censored it.
They suppressed it.
And Ray simply denies it.
His reasoning was, well, we didn't really pressure them.
Well, sure they did.
Right.
Listen to the testimony.
And not only that, the FBI failed to alert social media companies that the laptop story was real, because they knew it was.
They authenticated it a year earlier.
When they got a hold of it pursuant to a subpoena.
And that's the painful part.
My company did a pretty deep dive into the, we mapped the network of people involved with suppression, you know, from where the stories broke and who started the Russian disinformation lie and all of these things.
And it was painful to see all of the, you know, the full web of conspiracy to influence a U.S.
election and the fact that it was successful at some level And the fact that these people now are still in even higher positions of power in the Biden administration.
Look, several years ago, I argued that it's time to dismantle the FBI.
And by that, I mean, don't get rid of the 38,000 rank and file personnel who do a fine job.
No, I'm talking about the Hoover building, the seventh floor.
Get rid of the entire management regime and begin with, you know, Christopher Wray, the
director, as Matt Gates so pointedly said during the hearing on Wednesday, the FBI agents
deserve better than you.
I couldn't have put it better myself.
Yeah, Wray didn't like that very much.
That's one thing.
Matt Gaetz is an assassin.
He will stick the knife right into your front as you're sitting there looking at it.
And good on him, because too many people don't want to go ahead and make enemies like that.
And you can't blame him when you're talking about the director of the FBI.
So is there any chance of that?
I mean, is there a chance if we get control of the executive branch that we can do some, not just pruning, but pulling out by the roots of the weeds in the swamp?
As it always is in a constitutional republic based on democracy, it's up to the people.
The people decide, and they do so at the ballot box, and they'll do it in the next election.
And, you know, if they select a candidate who vows to demolish, you know, the Washington insiders that are horribly biased and that operate, you know, the FBI building, you know, then I think that's the only way that there's going to be change.
So it's always up to the people.
Well, and the people need to go ahead and decide that's what they want.
I think part of the problem is that they've got such good media running air cover for them that every time one of these situations happens and it gets exposed, and we have a case where the courts issue these injunctions, you get major media outlets Spinning it the same way they spun the Hunter laptop story to tell you this is not you.
These are not the droids you were looking for.
You know, this is not a story of actual government corruption.
Greg, after the break, I want to talk with you about the Secret Service and some of the fun, the high quality of their investigative capabilities, I think.
We're talking with Greg Jarrett.
Author of Trial of the Century about the Scopes Monkey trial, which I just I hope you will take a look at because it's just a great example of U.S.
democracy in action.
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All right.
Well, that was fun.
Let's beat up on another government agency.
Yeah, I mean, the Secret Service.
I mean, that is so laughable, their investigation.
And, you know, it has so many holes in it, but we'll take a whack at it.
Well, I mean, the fun part is, and for me, it's a double-edged sword.
I like that they don't care how bad their excuses are.
None of them anymore.
It's like, you know, we're just not even going to try.
You know, we've been getting away with this for so long, and we don't respect the right's ability to do anything about it.
And so they're just, whatever.
Yeah, we did it.
Yeah, I know.
You know, remember, this is the same secret service that intervene in the Hunter Biden gun case in 2018, you know, suddenly showing up trying to confiscate the purchase paperwork from the gun store owner, probably so they could just make it all vanish and he wouldn't give it up.
Oh, they weren't gonna hide that to cover for Hunter.
They would never do that.
Well, the funny thing is they weren't even providing protection back then for Joe Biden and his family.
So they just on their own, hey, we got to protect our favorite candidate.
Goodness of our hearts, you know.
It's painful the, I mean, the incestuously corrupt nature of it.
You know, I mean, that's really it.
It's easy to say we need to tear it out.
And I wish.
One of the main reasons I think it would be tremendous fun for Trump to win is because I think if nothing else, he would unleash some people.
You familiar with the bobs from office space?
No, I'm not.
The movie Office Space has got these two characters that come in as kind of like corporate representatives who are asking all the employees, so would you tell me what it is you do here?
Explain to me what you do here?
And then they're just firing people, you know?
Oh yeah.
And so Kurt Schlichter and I have volunteered.
The only job I'll take in a Trump administration or any administration is I'll empty the Pentagon.
You know, I only live a mile or two from there, you know.
I walk down every day and I will empty one ring a day until we get it down to a manageable level.
Yeah.
Well, I'd empty most of the DOJ in Washington as well as the FBI and, you know, I'd throw in a few other agencies on top of that.
And we'd be doing a public good.
You know, that's just it.
You could do it randomly.
You could decimate the bureaucracy and you'd start the next day a better place.
Oh yeah, you could.
Absolutely.
It's one of those things.
There's a fear.
And I think when Trump was in his transition period, when he was first elected, we were talking to them about who to bring in for national security and who to push out.
And the problem was we couldn't convince them that an empty chair was better, even if you can't fill it, than an enemy sitting in that chair.
And so they kept a bunch of people in.
DOJ, same thing.
Yeah, well, it's a problem with a guy who'd never spent any time in Washington, didn't know anybody, and, you know, he relied on the wrong people.
Yeah, yeah, didn't go swimmingly well.
We'll see.
We'll see what happens this time around.
It's going to be entertaining.
Well, he's wifed up, that's for sure.
Yeah, well, I mean, come on.
You've got to learn some lessons from that.
That was painful to watch.
The hard way.
20 seconds.
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The trial of the century, he dug out the transcripts, wiped the dust off them out of the back, and shows what Great minds can do in support of the founding principles of this country.
So Trial of the Century is the book.
But Greg, I want to talk to you this time about one of our premier law enforcement agencies, an agency that can stop any threat to the American president, no matter what it is.
They have eyes everywhere, and unfortunately, they don't seem to be able to find Yeah, you know, Jim, what is your reaction when you see?
I mean, the Secret Service account of their investigation is ludicrous.
It's inconceivable that there were no fingerprints on the baggie of coke.
I mean, that kind of plastic Is a magnet for the moisture and oil that fingers contain, not to mention DNA.
You touch it and your impression sticks and it stays there, especially in warm weather.
So I did a little experiment.
I walked into the kitchen, I grabbed a Ziploc bag out of the box and I touched it a couple of times and you hold it up to the light.
Sure enough, I found four of my own fingerprints.
And if you dusted it for prints, you will also find latent fingerprints.
Wait a minute, are you outing yourself here?
My baggie is for leftover food.
Okay.
But the other part is we're supposed to believe there's no video evidence.
That's absurd.
The White House has more cameras than Hollywood movie studios.
Every inch is covered with surveillance technology 24-7, and yet There's nothing at all?
That's also absurd.
Yeah, you know, and it's one of those situations where everybody knows that it was something bad or they would have told us who it was because, like you said, they saw it on the camera.
So they're hiding something.
And in this case, what they're hiding is Hunter Biden with Occam's razor cutting lines somewhere in the White House.
And whether it's him or not, it's one of those things where, OK, can we prove it was him?
No.
But can the Secret Service?
Well, they've shown a propensity, as you mentioned in the break, to cover for him On firearms charges, why wouldn't they be covering for him and Joe on a much more serious charge now?
Well, and also the Secret Service keeps shifting the cocaine's location.
The original site is the one that's most reliable, Jim.
The library below the family residence.
Why?
Because that's where the hazmat team was directed to go when the bag was first discovered.
And now, 11 days later, it's magically migrated to a busier area where there just happened to be no cameras?
No.
Well, you know, they migrated a couple times.
Yeah, migrated a couple times.
And I think that may be that's why they call it Bolivian marching powder.
Right?
Right.
And, you know, it's beyond suspicious that the Secret Service closed the case so quickly.
They refused to allow a more competent agency to step in.
I mean, their specialty is not investigations like this.
It's protecting the president.
And in that, obviously they failed.
Could have been anthrax or some other deadly contagion.
So, you know, this reeks of a whitewash and a cover up.
And is this just another example of the lack of faith we can have now in what used to be our premier security and law enforcement agencies?
Yeah, I mean, it's consistent with everything in the Biden administration.
People like Merrick Garland and David Weiss and, you know, even Christopher Wray, they're running a collective protection racket to insulate Joe Biden and his family.
Just look at the sweetheart deal they were able to get for Hunter Biden that nobody else would ever get.
Well, I think that seems to be coming under scrutiny again.
I'm not sure whether it's related to the fact that Hunter or whoever embarrassed the Biden White House.
But it sounds like the judge is going to relook that before he signs off on it.
And we'll see.
Maybe they actually treat him good.
But Greg Jarrett, he is a Fox legal and political analyst and also the author of a great book, Trial of the Century, which I read it again, like I said, it is an example of how our democracy and justice system should work when smart people run it.
Thanks, Greg.
Jim, my pleasure.
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Well, I'm joined in this celebration of gunness by Katie Poynter-Bainey, Managing Director of Government Affairs for the United States Concealed Carry Association.
Welcome to the show, Katie.
Thanks for having me.
So I want to talk guns and girls and women and guns and why all of that is a good idea.
And I have a personal I want to open and indulge myself in a story because the first date I had with my wife, who is a retired lieutenant colonel, former paratrooper and all around badass.
She tells me, I've got a new gun that I've never shot.
And she says, you're a big special forces weapons guy.
You know, maybe we should go to the range and you could give me a few pointers.
And then she twirled her.
And the first thing I asked is like, what kind of gun?
And she said, well, it's a Sig Sauer.
I'm like, OK, good start.
You have good taste in weapons.
And we go to the range.
And she says, okay, well, you know, here's the gun, and it's a double-action only, so there's nothing to operating it, you know?
I mean, basically, you just put a magazine in and pull the trigger.
I said, let's send a target downrange, you fire a magazine, and then we'll take a look.
So she loads it, puts a magazine in.
She goes, pew-pew-pew-pew-pew-pew-pew-pew-pew-pew, drops the magazine, switches hands, reloads, fires with the other hand, pew-pew-pew-pew-pew-pew-pew-pew-pew.
Drops the magazine, locks the slide back and sets the gun down.
Perfect procedure in every way!
We pull the target back and there's a nice dinner plate sized hole in the middle of it.
And I say, she looks at me and she says, so what advice would you give me?
And I said, reload.
That's all you need to do.
So I think there's an element of the idea that firearms as an equalizer for women is just one of my favorite ways to lay that out.
What's your opinion on the concept there?
Well, appreciate you having me on to get to talk about the United States Concealed Carry Association and really the millions of new gun owners who are women.
Your wife is ahead of the game, of course, former military.
What we've been seeing over the past couple of years is women who have never been involved in the firearms community purchasing their first gun.
And then going and saying, well, that isn't enough.
I need to seek out training and education in order to be a proficient, responsible gun owner.
So that means getting to the range like you and your wife, putting lead down range and continuing to hone and practice their skills.
So that's really what the United States Concealed Carry Association offers the USCCA.
We have certified instructors, over 10,000 across the country, who are teaching courses from defensive pistol use to home defense fundamentals, and they are reporting a surge in demand for women coming out, seeking out these courses and these training offerings, which is incredibly exciting for us at the USCCA.
And I commend you guys for that, because obviously my wife, she was being sincere.
You know, she actually wanted advice.
She just happened to not need it.
But most people don't.
It's not... Carrying a gun is a huge responsibility.
I mean, I tell people that when they say, you know, should I get a gun and should I carry?
I say, yes, if you're willing to practice and train.
Because carrying concealed is a pain in the butt.
You know, it is not a simple thing.
You have to do it responsibly.
You have to make sure you're not showing off the weapon.
You have to be able to draw and employ from a lot of positions.
So that's one of the things.
That's the kind of skills that you guys are helping people get.
Exactly.
It's a tremendous responsibility.
We know it is a God-given fundamental right to keep and bear arms, this right to self-defense.
But with that tremendous right comes tremendous responsibility.
And that's really what the USCCA teaches and what we're all about as a firearms training and education company.
First and foremost, we are really focused on Meeting people wherever they are on their self-defense journey.
So if you're listening to this and you are a newer gun owner, or even if you've owned a gun for 20-30 years, you need to get out, you need to practice, get to the range.
You can go to the usconcealcarry.com and find an instructor and training courses in your area.
Really, again, to just hone and up your skills.
And that is an incredible part of being a responsible gun owner.
You can't just purchase it.
You gotta get out, you gotta put lead downrange, you gotta continue to hone and practice your skills.
And again, it's just really exciting to see millions of new gun owners that are quote-unquote outside the stereotypical gun owners.
We're talking women, we're talking minority groups, because they want to take their own protection into their own hands and really be their own first responder.
That goes along with crime skyrocketing across the country and just general instability.
Women want to be able to feel safe.
They want to be able to protect themselves and their children, and the firearm is the best tool to do that.
I mean, and it's you, you can, I love the police.
I love all, you know, people who act as sheepdogs in our society.
But when you need help right now, the police are at best minutes away.
And I think I used to when I first started caring as a civilian, one of the things it made me more likely to do was to intervene in a bad situation.
Because I knew I had a Trump card to play, and so I could probably defuse things I might have stayed out of otherwise.
So it gives you a little leverage either way, even if it's not a direct saving of your life.
I'll give you an interesting statistic.
We have seen in Pennsylvania, for example, an over 600% increase in concealed carry permits.
And of that, half are women.
Nice.
Which is a really exciting development.
And then, of course, we've seen over 27 states pass some version of constitutional carry or permitless carry, which is equipping people, you know, able to carry without purchasing or going through the process of getting that permit.
It's really exciting, like you said, and it is incumbent on us, especially as women, to step up and really take responsibility for our own personal security.
Well, organizations like United States Concealed Carry are doing tremendous work.
Katie Poynter-Bainey, Managing Director of Government Affairs for that group, thanks for joining us and pointing that out.
And like she said, buy a gun, buy some ammo, and train.
I'm Jim Hanson. This is America First Radio and we'll be back after the break.
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www.americansurface.com I might join something like that.
I don't know why I thought they had canceled the insurance because I meant to ask her about
it because that always worries me.
I got a shit ton of liability insurance just because I'm a provocateur.
It's funny, I just had to fill out a questionnaire for my insurance company.
They're like, you seem to carry a lot of Business liability insurance.
And I was like, yeah.
And I mean, there was a whole list of questions.
So what do you do that makes you think people are going to sue you?
I'm like, well, I dig into their past.
I find out bad things about them.
I expose it and I cause them tremendous trouble.
I think that pisses some people off.
I've found over the years.
I've only been sued once, though.
You guys know I got sued by Clockboy, right?
Who?
Oh, the fake bomb kid.
I remember that story.
Yeah, the half a bomb kid.
It was me and Glenn Beck and Ben Shapiro and Mayor Beth Van Dyne at the time was mayor.
I was like, I think my freshman year of high school when that happened.
I remember that.
Oh, it was awesome.
Beth Van Dyne and I were on Glenn Beck's show, right?
And he asked me, so Jim, is this actually a bomb?
And I'm like, dude, it was half a bomb.
You know, I've actually taken a digital clock radio apart and made a trigger for a bomb.
So yes, this was half a bomb.
And they sued me.
And, like, my lawyer is like, um, Mr. Hanson is an expert.
He literally built a bomb trigger using the exact thing the clockboy brought to school.
I think he's allowed to say that that constitutes half a bomb.
But the problem is it cost you 50, 100 grand to get to that point.
Ah, we had a pro bono lawyer.
Oh, you did?
And we actually won lawyers fees.
So.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
Hey folks, I am Jim Hanson, and that was a fun segment.
I love gun hour.
I mean, obviously, I'm a Special Forces weapons guy.
It doesn't get much more gun than that.
But I want to bring one more thing up that Katie brought up after we cut off.
The U.S.
Concealed Carry Association offers liability insurance.
And I got to tell you, I'm going to get it.
I don't have it currently.
For some reason, I thought they had stopped offering it.
My bad.
She reminded me they do.
And it's smart.
If you carry, you know, you can you can look at Kyle Rittenhouse and find out the law is not your friend.
You know, it all depends on the situation.
I live I live in Virginia.
And the worst thing and the thing that angers me the most about this is I live in Virginia, a mile from the Pentagon.
When I have to go into Washington D.C.
where I need a gun, I can't carry one because D.C.
is a communist crap hole full of criminals, full of carjackers, full of all kinds of other bad things.
But me, a concealed carrier for most of my adult life, you know, I used to carry before 9-11 on planes because the airline pilots felt better with special forces guys using the right ammunition and whatnot who were trained acting as free air marshals.
Now, I can't cross the river to the most dangerous place in this area and I gotta put my gun away.
I find that obscene.
But I do carry where it's legal and I concern myself over what will happen if I do have to use a gun in self-defense.
You know, as I mentioned to Katie, most of the time, it's more like that equalizer that I know is there.
You know, if I see a bad situation germinating, I can either ignore it, oh, not my problem, or as a good person and as one of the sheepdogs in our society, my natural inclination, if I see someone bullying, if I see someone being violent, someone messing with a woman or a kid, whatever, I will go and, dude I'm not a small dude, I will go put my chest in the middle of it and say knock it off!
But having a weapon on my hip that I know I can draw because I've bought bullets and I've practiced, I've practiced my concealed draw, you know, because if I got a jacket on and it's buttoned, that's hard, right?
You gotta, you know, there are things you have to do.
So I recommend to all of you, if you're going to carry, make sure you're trained If you can't do it yourself, and don't assume you can because you saw The Matrix or John Wick, you know.
I'll tell you right now, that John Wick stuff is a little bit fake.
All right?
Not all of that is actually real.
But do carry, do train, and I am going to add liability insurance to mine just because I want an angry, vicious, savage lawyer like the Kurt Schlichter of firearms lawyers on my side.
If I ever do have to use a weapon.
And, you know, like I said, it doesn't matter whether you're right or wrong.
You're going to end up in the docket.
All right.
We will be back with the five o'clock hour and we'll get the results of the poll to see what one of the audience choice topics will be.
I'm Jim Hanson.
this is America First.
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you Hey folks, glad to be back.
We are in the third hour of America First, and I have decided we will spend this hour fixing the Republican Party and the messaging on the political right.
And in order to do this, I had to dig deep into the anonymous weeds for a gentleman I've known for a very long time and done some interesting things with, who works in the advertising, marketing, creative world.
He's a creative director.
And because of that, he writes and operates online under the awesome alias of Reuben von Higginbotham.
So I would like to welcome Reuben to the show, and let's talk about fixing the Republican Party.
But first off, thanks for coming.
Thanks, Jim.
It's great to be here.
And then I'm really wondering how you think we can do this in one hour when they've spent about 150 years botching it.
Yeah, they suck at a level of professionalism.
They suck like a turbo Dyson.
But let's at least get started.
So I think one of the things that I've heard you say, and you run marketing campaigns for corporations, you know, you do that Mad Men stuff.
And you've said that the Republicans not only suck at marketing, they flat don't do it.
That's right.
And actually, what I've said, and I'm happy to say it again, is I think the Republican Party has the worst marketing department in the history of marketing departments, spanning through all of time.
And I guess this maybe proves God has a sense of humor.
It's at least ironic that they've been given the greatest product of all time, individualism and freedom, the right to do And what you want to do, swing your arm so long as you don't hit someone else with a nose and all toward the pursuit of your own happiness and freedom.
What could be so hard to sell about that?
But here we are.
Well, okay, and that's true.
We do.
We're on the side of right, the left is on the side of totalitarian communism evil.
But I think one of the best descriptions of it I ever heard, and it's fairly common, it's almost a cliché now, but is that the left is giving away ice cream and the right is selling broccoli.
Now, to some extent, I think that's fair, you know, because the left, they'll lie, you know, and you can give away ice cream forever because they think someone else will pay the price.
We're the ones saying someone actually has to pay the price.
There ain't no such thing as a free dessert.
Right, but that's not necessarily where your messaging has to start.
The left does a great job of appealing to emotion, and the Republicans And I think this is a problem with conservatives in general.
I mean, just when you talk about conservative personality traits, one thing absolutely is conservatives generally believe their politics are private things.
So they're not inclined to go protest.
They're not inclined to go on LinkedIn and tell everybody about their mental health issues.
They're not inclined to, which, by the way, is a place the Republicans should absolutely be paying attention to because corporations, you know, corporate people, tech people are being shaped by those things on LinkedIn.
But it's just not a place, you know, conservatives won't talk about religion, so they believe it's fairly private.
They also, I think, take for granted that people will have a modicum of common sense.
And right now we're the United States of Emotion, so everything we do is emotional in nature.
One thing I pulled up, because I absolutely wanted to share it with you today, a friend of mine showed me a dating app, and on it it said, this woman posted, no Trumpers, I don't mind different political views, but I really hate I really mind hate, racism, ignorance, violence, and misinformation.
Tolerance.
See, now, conservatives will say tolerance, and maybe even make fun of that, and not wrong, but what I think it really says is, how many people do you know, or how many people do listeners know, who say they're Democrats but live their life as conservatives and have conservative positions?
But they have no idea that they're conservative because they just figure, well, I don't hate black people.
I don't hate gay people.
I, you know, I don't, I don't hate women.
So I must be a Democrat.
And then there you are.
And that's how you, I think that's how you get cities like Seattle where everybody feels like they, you know, they watch the same results over, which is where I am right now, by the way.
They watch the city just destroy itself.
They watch the same results over and over.
They vote for the same people to be back in there.
And the only thing I can come up with in some conversation is because, yeah, but they're not bad people.
At least they're not hateful racists.
So they've demonized.
I mean, that, I think, is the most successful thing the left has done, is to take the values of individual liberty and, you know, freedom and free market capitalism, all these things, and turn those into hate.
You know, they have marketed us, in the absence of a marketing campaign from our side, as the haters.
And okay, there are some positions that are difficult and nuanced from our side that it's difficult.
You know, the trans issue, gay rights, you know, there are a lot of things that they do a good job of demagoguing on, but they have been horrendously successful, especially in the absence of anti-counterprogramming from our team.
Absolutely.
I think the most obvious one, and you know, I remember, you know, I'm from Wisconsin, which is the origin of the bubbler, my site.
And because if anyone, any good Wisconsinite knows a bubbler is a water fountain.
And, you know, it's race, because I've been thinking for about 30 years now, when are the Republicans going to stand up and talk about their record on race?
And I think a winning strategy, or at least a piece of a winning strategy for any candidate, would be the one who calls a national speech at a serious, well-known place, monument, God, maybe even the Washington Monument, be so bold, and just talk about the history of Republicans and race.
You mentioned Wisconsin.
I mean, Wisconsin's where the Republican Party was founded as an anti-slavery party in Ripon, Wisconsin.
Absolutely.
And the entire Republican Party was founded to stop slavery.
They've been against black coded Jim Crow laws.
They've fought against anti-lynching laws.
Johnny on the Street, not necessarily politically attuned, even knows that the Ku Klux Klan was started by Democrats specifically to intimidate Republicans and keep them from voting.
You can just go down the line.
The Civil Rights Act of 1964, you know the deal.
Franklin Roosevelt, he ran with Truman, who was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, and you can just go on down the line.
And the thing is, if you gave this as a national speech, it would force the media to do their, you know what they do, they do their fact-checking
on it.
And it would force the media to go through their, you know, try and run rings through,
you know, do the mental gymnastics to figure out why fact-checking that wouldn't be true.
And it would force a lot of people to, this would be the first time a lot of Americans
would be hearing any of this. And Republicans just won't do it.
Well, and that is a failing we're going to try to help with.
All right, we're going to open up the phone lines, and we're going to keep Rubin on for a couple segments here, because we're fixing a pretty big thing.
833-33-GORKA, 833-334-6752.
We got a call from Philly, which has a wonderful race relations and low crime.
Richard in Philly, what you got for us, brother?
Good afternoon, folks.
I'll tell you something.
I have to laugh.
Really laugh.
I have a friend for over 45 years.
And we've been friends.
And in the last couple years, because I like Trump, and he went ballistic.
Called me every name under the sun.
Racist, homophobe, you name it.
It's a person I've known for over 40 years.
Knows me that well.
It's been to my weddings, been to my birthday parties.
Just suddenly like that.
As fast as you snap your fingers.
Changed and became completely opposite.
Just doesn't even talk to me.
Refuses to even acknowledge I exist, except in a derogatory manner.
I have to tell you, everything you hear about that, you hear about it on the radio, it's very true.
People find out that you are a different political viewpoint, even if they've known you for decades, and they know you're not a racist, you're not a bigot, you're open, you're open-minded, and you're willing to listen to other people.
But the moment they hear the name Trump, they completely go off the walls.
I have no explanation for it.
I'd love to know what you guys think.
Yeah, well, I think you're talking about Trump derangement syndrome, and I think that is a huge problem.
Do we have Rubin back?
Okay, bring Reuben back in.
You back in?
There's my boy.
Okay, did you hear the call?
I heard the tail end, so hopefully I'm addressing it properly, but I have a little bit different take than just Trump derangement system, which I do think is a real thing.
In fact, I think there's a new strain of it, but maybe we'll get into that later.
You know, people see something as horrible as the Holocaust in Germany and think, well, it can never happen again.
But you gotta wonder how it got there, and I don't mean to overblow this, I'm not sure we're there yet, but all of this is an attempt, you know, making conservatives out to be racists, homophobes, white supremacists now, so we're even upping the ante on racism, is an attempt to dehumanize people.
And once you dehumanize them, you can justify a lot of things, like locking up J6 Capitol visitors, you know for no reason and holding them as political
prisoners and again republican marketing is doing a horrible job because how
many people know that that's happening? Julie Kelly's doing a fantastic effort on
it and people are trying to carry that forward as much as possible but you
just don't hear enough about it. Well I think it is most definitely a failing.
All right, we're hitting the tail end of this segment.
We are talking to my co-conspirator, the alias Ruben Von Higginbotham, creative director and bon vivant.
He'll be back after the break, and we're going to talk some more about Republican messaging and why the right is unable to make our case to the American people, because we got a heck of a case to make.
I'm Jim Hanson.
This is America First.
we'll be back after the break.
Another caller as well.
There we go.
Rube.
So is it going to cut him off if we take calls?
Is that how that works?
Um, Alex?
We should have Skyped with him.
Ah, whatever.
I pressed the wrong button.
Normally he should be able to put it back.
That was total incompetence on your part.
All right.
Um, but dude, I think this is good.
And plus now you'll have a piece of collateral material to point to if you ever need to.
That was the other reason I want to do this.
I want to get some of this stuff down and turn it into a thing.
Like you talked about maybe doing a training series or whatever.
You know what I mean?
I want to, I want to start something toward that and be able to use this as a, as a piece to point to.
So let's, uh, let's poke at some stuff.
Okay.
I have that open in front of me, so I'm ready for it.
Right on.
Cool.
All right.
Well, I think let's just, let's just riff and we'll take calls.
And, uh, if you can do two more segments, that'd be good.
And then I got one to close with.
I'm going to opine on why Gen X is better than Gen Z. Is that an opinion or is that just a fact?
That's just a fact.
That's my point.
So yeah.
Does Alex need something?
Did you want to give it a try real quick?
I'm going to try to put Mike on real quick, just to test this.
Just to test to make sure.
Yeah.
Hey Mike, can we hear you?
Oh yeah, yeah, sure.
Okay, we're in the break, but we've got two callers and we're trying to make sure.
Ruben, we still got you?
Yep.
Alright, we're good to go.
Awesome.
We'll take your call after the break, Mike.
Technology, how do it work?
Is this the traditional segments, the longer opener, smaller to the half hour and then long again?
I don't know.
Dude, you tell me.
I've guest hosted this show a ton and I still have to ask.
Every segment opens.
Fortunately, there's a clock that tells me how long it is.
I run my mouth until it starts turning red.
Challenging, I'm sure.
You know, it's funny.
I did the news style show, the Newsnight show, where you're actually hosting it in a TV fashion.
And even though it's not actually different, it felt more stiff.
You know what I mean?
It felt more like I had to be exactly on this.
Whereas in the radio, I'm just like, I'll just run my cake hole until we get close.
I would like to get into this Celebrate Similarity if we can.
Somewhere in there.
Yeah, dude, that needs to come out.
Because that's a... Yeah, for sure.
Why be divisive?
Ghettoizing people has never worked.
It doesn't make sense at all.
So we went from a melting pot to tossed salad.
Don't they have a new one?
The tossed salad.
Every time they say that... Climate change?
Yeah, all I can think of is Chris Rock.
You remember that Chris Rock bit?
Yes.
Oh, my God.
It's just horrifying.
See, but they can't even get that right.
Someone should be able to make that connection.
Well, we have we have idiots and the country club cousins who bill at $500 an hour to suck.
I was just, right before this, I don't know how much time we have, but right before this I was watching Tucker Carlson do his thing with Hayley, Nicky Hayley, and they were wondering why guns are so popular.
I'd like to get into that as well.
Okay.
Well, we'll take Mike's call and then we'll go after that.
Hey, hey dude, Seb just texted me and figured out who you were.
For real?
Yeah! 10 seconds. Nice one.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest Uncle Jimbo!
It's Jim Hansen.
Yes, I am Jim Hansen, and we are talking with my good friend, creative director, Republican bon vivant, and all-around good guy, Reuben Von Higginbotham.
Hey, listen, let's take a call from Mike in Detroit, who has some comments for us.
Oh yeah, yeah.
What your guest mentioned a while ago, I never heard the Republicans, you know, mention this, but of course the Republican Party was built, was the party of ending slavery, of the Democrats were trying to extend slavery into the states and territories, and they attacked the newly elected government of the United States, Republican administration, under the Republican president, Abraham Lincoln, and I know the history of my own family, and they fought overwhelmingly to preserve the Union and end slavery.
And Republicans took 800,000 casualties, you know, dead and seriously wounded, to end slavery.
And, you know, the Democratic Party is a party of the empire of slavery, of voter suppression, lynching, the Ku Klux Klan, right up into the 1960s.
And it's like they're trying to transfer, and the Republicans allow them to transfer that guilt and responsibility onto the Republicans, which is just mind-boggling.
I never hear them fight back on that issue.
That is a great point.
And Ruben, I think we've talked about that.
You were riffing on it earlier.
How can we have no ability to take the good things we've done and turn them into positive messaging for our team?
That's, you know, and the thing is, if you wanted to go on offense, so that's one of the answers to your question, is the Republicans are constantly five steps behind and on defense.
And so the Democrats make wild assertions on things that everyone, I think a lot of conservatives actually laugh at and say, well, that'll never take hold or that'll never get traction.
And then 10, 5, 10, 20 years later, we're looking at it as a reality.
Look at so-called transgenderism, I think, is an excellent example of something that, when you first hear it, you're like, nah, that can't get traction.
But you're really underestimating the machine, the emotional marketing that the Democrats are able to do.
And so I don't think they ever thought to take on the issue of race, and it's mind-boggling to me.
I think another example of that, and I don't mean to get you off, but I think that's why the speech needs to happen.
I think that's why someone needs to speak out about it, and on a national level, because that would start the conversation, and for the first time ever, people would start hearing these things about the party.
Just don't be afraid.
Because we operate in fear.
And for a long time, it was the fear of being called a racist.
It was all these things.
They had created it.
Now that's kind of gone.
But it's still a third rail nobody wants to touch.
When why not own it?
Why are black people in the Democrat Party, which has done nothing for them, ever?
We were the ones who fought to free them from slavery.
And every step since then, the Democrats have kept them as clients in their victim status, and they're no good for it.
I would go farther, and this is what I mean by Republican marketing, and I think this is what you mean by gutsy marketing, I would go so far as to start referring to them as Democrat slaves.
Because it is a different form of slavery right now.
And it absolutely is.
That's what the welfare state, separating the family, keeping the family apart, that's another form of slavery.
Because now they're just slaves to the Democrat plantation.
They're just constant voters.
They're just reliable voters that get absolutely taken for granted.
And the shame of it is that when you're happening in a 90% voting bloc, it's almost hard to argue.
And that's what the Republicans need to be attacking and going after, is pointing this out.
And it's not like the bulk of those black people.
The activist groups have been trained in indoctrinating.
They're true believers.
They're zealots.
And then you've got the, you know, the underclass, which is unreachable and criminal and all that.
But in between those two, there used to be a powerful black middle class and there still is.
It's still there, but it's been co-opted, like you said, and reaching out to them, I think, is something where it's shameful that we're not.
The Wall Street of Oklahoma, I don't know if you're familiar with that, but it was a very wealthy area.
It was essentially the Black Wall Street.
It's a great example, and it was burned down, but it absolutely proved that there's nothing... I mean, it's absolutely possible.
And plus, then it should be integrated anyway.
There should be no black Wall Street, white Wall Street.
There should just be Wall Street.
And this is where I come off on my big... One of, I think, the biggest opportunities the Republican Party missed, which is a long list, is celebrate diversity.
Celebrate diversity is really calling out an irrelevant physical characteristic and
saying that that's what we need to go forward, not to mention just the completely non-intuitive idea that
by celebrating all the things that make us different, we're somehow going to be able to come
together.
Like, if I'm running a business, I need a team full of people who understand the goal or the mission and are all in and are all going to work toward it.
And I'm going to count on them bringing different worldviews and experiences and talents and disciplines, and those are going to make the difference.
But we all have to be united by the mission.
In America, we should be talking about Celebrate Similarity, because we all believe in freedom.
I mean, we used to.
A lot of us did anyway.
It's about freedom and opportunity and achievement.
And consequences, don't get me started on consequences, because the death of consequences doesn't help us either, but those are the things that united us.
And so Celebrate Similarity is really the way of saying all of those physical, ridiculous differences that mean nothing are exactly that.
What we celebrate is that we are all in on this dream, this opportunity for freedom, and all of the things that America could be, and that we were for so long.
And that's, no, I think you nailed, you know, I love to celebrate similarities and we need that.
But the starting point was, why are we celebrating diversity when the things that make up what they call diversity are innate characteristics that say nothing about the content of the character?
or the beliefs of the person, or their effort, or their abilities, or anything they bring positive to the table for that team of people you mentioned.
So they celebrate things that are meaningless in the larger scheme of things in the American way.
And your goal is to get us to celebrate the things that make us similar, regardless of those innate characteristics.
When we are a divided country, the Democrat Party wins.
By the way, I'm going to catch myself on this, because I think one of the mistakes conservatives also make is talking about Democrats, which means all those conservatives who are self-identifying as Democrats now get lumped in with the people that we're actually talking about and chastising.
I think you've got to be really careful about it, because it's really Democrat leadership.
It's Democrat politicians.
And then the people who follow them aren't necessarily all dyed in the wool.
I mean, maybe I'm just optimistic, but through my travels, and I have a lot of liberal Democrat friends, I don't know why, maybe I just think they're more fun.
Maybe that's a different problem with conservative marketing.
But, and they all will tell you the same thing.
They'll all just tell you all these things they believe and think and the responsibility
and accountability and it's just like, you're not a Democrat at all.
But they all go back to, but my heart is not filled with hate.
And this has been the power of the Democrats branding conservatives with no challenge whatsoever.
And I think when we come back, I'd like to talk about that more if we can.
Let us do, we are down to the bottom of the hour.
We got 30 minutes more of America First Radio.
And if you wanna help us.
Fix the Republican Party.
Give us a call.
This is Jim Hansen.
We're doing America First Radio.
We're talking with my good friend Reuben Von Higginbotham.
Check him out at Twitter at TheBubbler.co.
And his substack and other things I will put out in a tweet after this.
He writes good stuff.
Stuff you should read.
Good ideas for our team.
One more segment with him after the break.
All right. I think we're making progress, dude.
That is hilarious that Seb figured out who you were.
Sorry, I didn't mean to take us into the break.
I don't know what came over me.
Dude, how did you know?
I'm looking at the clock.
What clock?
My clock.
So you just figured there was a 5.30 break?
That's funny.
I mean, because there is, but it's not right.
I didn't mean to kick you off.
I mean, I was going to have to have you shut up otherwise.
So that's helpful.
I always said, now, here's what I want.
And they still haven't done it because these people don't fucking care what I think.
I think the guest when we do Skype should have a countdown clock, too.
You know?
Because, I mean, some guests are good at getting their points said.
Some guests are just catching enough air to keep going until somebody breaks in and makes them shut up.
Yeah.
I think it's cool to take callers.
I mean, you know I've never done this before, so this is all... It's not hard.
This is all pretty sweet for me.
No, but I'm very thankful that you're giving me the chance.
Well, I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
I want your ideas in play.
I've been saying that for a while.
And I consider this, especially the way we're doing it here, this is like sitting around a table at CPAC, you know?
And people come up and ask questions and sit down and we talk with them for a while.
Yeah.
Well, so how did he figure out it was me and is he okay with that?
He just thinks he's smart for figuring it out.
Your voice, you have a distinctive voice, dude.
Yeah, I sound like Kermit the Frog.
Okay, a little bit.
Whatever it is, your voice is distinctive enough.
And then, you know, the funny thing is that, I don't know what you did AI'd the picture, but it looks enough like you.
You know, I mean, there's elements where it doesn't look like you at all.
But it's there.
You did a good job of kind of, you know, making a The problem is I only did one.
I need, like, now, like, you know, at the barbecue, at the pool.
Right, right.
Reuben in action.
Well, that should be easier now, because you did that a while ago.
You've had that one for a long time.
I did it a while ago.
I'm going to have to, I have to give that to something, to an engine now, and see what I can do with it.
Yeah.
Hey, I'm going to be spinning up a video AI capability.
So if you know, I need that capability.
If you know someone who can do it, Let me know.
If not, I gotta find somebody and I'll let you play.
I got a guy and he's totally down with the cause.
Okay.
That's what I need.
Cause this is for... I don't know if he can technically do this or not, but he absolutely, he's the guy that really kind of introduced me to AI and trained me in on it.
So I know he knows the space.
I just don't know if he knows how to work and create the space.
Okay.
Well, let's, uh, let's talk offline.
This, this is that same, uh, thing I was telling you about.
Okay.
Sorry, go ahead.
I was going to say, I would like to introduce the sinister stupid thing.
That's what I was kind of talking about going out.
Okay.
I'll just, I'll throw it back.
We're going to take a caller and then after that, we'll just maneuver it towards that.
And that'll probably fill up the next segment.
What were you saying, Eric?
Friends of mine who are still keeping an eye on it say Vivek did pretty well on that stage.
All right.
You're not because Tucker's not going to attack him and he's too sharp to fail.
Yeah.
You know, he's not going to say something like that's not my concern.
Yeah.
Mike Pence.
He's got my vote.
I'd do Vivek.
I would do Vivek.
I could I could do President Vivek.
Yeah, why not? He'd be less than he because even if he does a tenth of the things he claims it'd be better
All right You
Welcome back to America first with our very special guest uncle Jimbo a
It's Jim Hanson.
All right.
We are back.
We've been talking about how to fix Republican Party, Republican, not the party, but the messaging at a bare minimum, which is awful.
And we're taking some calls with my buddy, Ruben Von Higginbotham, not his real name.
Let's talk to Jane in California.
What's up?
Hi.
So two things really quickly.
Years ago, I was at my friend's swearing in for her citizenship.
She's Israeli, and she became an American citizen.
There were thousands of people in the Los Angeles Convention Center being sworn in.
The minute they came out, there were Democratic Party representatives all over them, signing them up to vote Democratic.
There were no Republican people.
Anywhere.
It drove me nuts.
Number two, I was just at a July 4th parade in Napa and there was a float with the Democratic Party of Napa.
No Republicans.
There's got to be Republicans around.
I know there are.
I'm one.
But No presence.
They don't show themselves anywhere.
You gotta show the flag.
Those are both great points, Jane.
Alright, alright, Reuben.
I mean, obviously.
We don't fight.
We're not there.
We're not even in the fight far too many places.
I thought the Republican Party was actually looking for the light switch in California.
It's good to know there's a few still left.
There's people there who definitely are down with the cause, and it's just such a big state and there's so many Dems.
So we're talking about conservative Republican marketing, whichever word you want to use for it, and this to me is another huge missed opportunity.
You know, we allow illegals to come in, and without any recourse or consequence whatsoever, There are a lot of legalized immigrants, people who came to this country the right way, who are living here, who resent the heck.
Out of the fact that these people just get to come in and be there right away.
And the Republicans should be a constant stream of putting these people out there, talking about why they came here, what it was about America.
Because there's another thing.
First of all, I think there's some resentment that they didn't have to go through the process.
And you know, there's lawyers and expenses to it as well when you're doing it the right way.
For sure.
And time.
It takes time.
But the other thing is that a lot of these people have left oppressive countries that did exactly what we're doing now.
And they're the canaries.
They're the first people that are saying, this is the stuff I left.
You guys don't even understand the dangerous road you're on right now.
The Republicans can make a massive campaign out of that.
That would be a very powerful and emotional It's just an empty warehouse.
and it's like it doesn't occur to them. I don't know if they even have a
marketing department. I might have been wrong. They may not have the worst
marketing department in history. They may just not have one.
It's just an empty warehouse. Let's take a call from Greg in Chandler, Arizona.
Hi guys.
Yeah, hi there.
What's crazy is everything you guys have been talking about for the past 45 minutes, there's not one person in the Republican Party that could have iterated any of that in the past 25, 30 years, going back to Reagan.
I mean, Newt Gingrich was probably the closest, but other than that, has there ever been a will?
We've noticed now over the past few years what the unit party really is.
So was there ever really a will to create that distinction?
I don't think McConnell could do it if he had a gun to his head.
No, Ryan?
Chose not to.
No, those guys are politicians, and that's the problem.
You have to have politicians in those positions, but those politicians should stand for something.
Reagan had a message.
There was a Reagan revolution.
Can we have another revolution, Reuben?
Well, you know, the caller mentioned the Uniparty, and I'm glad to hear that, because I think, yes, you could have another revolution, and I think you could have a revolution and unify the country to the extent that's ever possible, because there's always going to be the other side.
And this is what Donald Trump, I think, kind of did almost without knowing he was doing it.
I mean, he's not stupid, he knew he was doing it.
I think that the candidate who dives in and runs against government corruption in this next election is going to be the winner.
And I know I'm optimistic because of various voting tactics and strategies that maybe are different things.
But if that were all evil, or it is evil, if it was all even is what I meant to say, Then I think that that's the unifying message.
You know, DeSantis is kind of doing it, but he's not articulating it that way.
Trump never articulates it that way, but he's now really doing it because they've gone after him so hard.
I think he's starting to actually make that the message.
And Vivek has been doing it as well, for that matter.
But the country can see that these politicians making $150,000 a year are all walking away millionaires with resorts.
And they're all starting to give very public speeches at things like the World Economic Forum about what kind of control they should have on society and what people need to give up.
Let's go ahead, and you're going to stay for one more segment, I've decided.
I don't know if you know that.
Okay.
Because we're not done yet.
So we're talking with my good buddy Ruben Von alias Higginbotham, and I'm Jim Hanson.
We'll be back with more America First after the break.
What was your strategic stupidity?
What was that?
Or what was the... What's that?
You mentioned something.
It wasn't strategic stupidity, but it was something.
Oh, Sinister or Stupid?
Okay.
That's the brand.
That to me is a great brand.
And I want to give a couple examples all fresh out of Seattle.
Okay.
All right.
I can tie that together pretty nicely and keep it brief.
Cool.
Well done, dude.
It's funny.
I haven't been able to get a collar on all day.
All of a sudden, you're on, and phones are lit up.
I'm a magnet, man.
Dude, this has been fun.
Well, because nobody ever talks about it.
It's unique.
I know.
I know.
And I have agreed with you on that, but now I think we've got enough people who want to play that we can do something with this.
All right.
So how long is this next one, Eric?
This is the D segment, so it's eight minutes long.
Eight minutes, okay.
All right.
I'll watch and see if I can time that out.
Yeah, from the jump.
Yeah, let's sinister, stupid, I like, and we'll get whatever.
We'll take one more call and then go from there.
I'll set it up well.
You'll be happy.
Aww, you're the best, man.
Oh, so I'm not sure when we're coming out to Seattle.
It's probably going to be closer to September, but I'll let you know.
Oh, yeah, that would be awesome.
Yeah, because that's all.
It's funny.
Sam had visited Seattle probably five times and she used to love to say, I love Seattle.
It never rains.
Really?
She was there September.
Every time she would go, she would go in September, which is the perfect month.
So anyhow.
That is the perfect month.
It's always hot and sunny.
Yeah, exactly.
And I think we'll be out there.
But I don't have a date yet.
We're test flying.
I bought a bunch of stuff for the Sprinter van.
So I got a new power distribution system and some batteries and an air conditioner so I could sleep at night and a refrigerator.
So now it's technically, it's not an RV, but it's more of a sleepable thing.
And we're going to test it out and go, we're going to a cat show, dude.
I would love to do that.
You and me at a cat show?
Yeah.
It'll be better than that.
We're going to breed them.
Are you really?
Yeah.
You remember Lily?
Uh, vaguely.
Was Lily there?
Had Lily died when you came to visit?
I can't remember.
But I've heard, I think, you know what, I might be thinking, I remember because you've spoken out, but I don't, I don't remember.
The beautiful white cat.
So she's a rag doll.
And so now we're going to breed rag dolls in our basement.
Cause we got that, we got like a basement apartment with like three, two bedrooms and a kitchen and everything.
So Sam's turning it into the cattery.
I'm going to call it the cat house.
And she approved that.
Oh, well, I'm not surprised by that at all.
Yeah, no, she's a savage beast.
Alright, 30 seconds out.
I beat you to it, Eric.
Only this time.
I don't need you guys.
I could produce this show by myself.
I'd just forget to do all the reads and I'd never know what's going on.
Nothing would happen right, but I could do it.
Ah.
I produced the warlords. I forgot how to handle them.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hanson.
All right.
Well, we're going to continue our quest to fix messaging for the political right.
And we're taking your calls and discussing with my good buddy, Reuben Von Higginbotham.
Let's talk to Eric from San Jose.
What's up, brother?
Hey there.
How you doing?
All right.
Good.
I noted what the previous caller had spoken about.
That is, that Republicans don't tend to fight.
In my opinion, dare I mix religious and politics, is that congressmen and senators are oftentimes heavily influenced on the right by their religious background, which is oftentimes Judeo-Christian or otherwise, but quite conservative and kitchen table values, which includes the golden rule, and that's treat others the way that you should be treated.
However, When you're in a republic, which theoretically is to represent the greatest number from basically the way the elephant on that one person, it's kind of difficult to represent an angry public that basically wants you to fight
And basically you're sitting there trying to just get along with the other side.
Alright, now that's one of my favorite ones because here's, you nailed it.
The problem we have is they are fighting by a set of rules and that no longer resemble anything like the values you're talking about.
So the golden rule and do unto others and, you know, act in a decent way, that's out the window for the left.
And they've been kicking the crap out of it with us for decades.
And our team sits there and tries to sit on the moral high ground.
Oh, we will not, you know, get in the mud and do all those kind of things and loses.
If you're going to lose, we can't afford that.
So, Ruben, how do we play the game that no longer has those rules without getting ourselves just slimed as much?
I think it's a big question, and I'm glad, because one of the problems I've had as well is the Republican Party has to take the personalities out of it.
My goodness, if they keep saying Bidenomics, what's the Democrat Party going to do?
They'll drop Biden in a heartbeat, and now people can say it was Biden's ideas that didn't work.
It's Democrat economics.
It's Democrat policies.
That's it.
And it's exactly why I think we miss it, because we've gotta stop talking about the personalities
and start talking about the policies and people who want to do these things.
And of course you should tie them to them.
But it doesn't make it personal anymore.
And that's how you can fight it while still staying true to those values, I think.
You know, there's a phrase, you can't fight for heaven using the tools of hell.
And you can stick to this by just talking about the policies
and what it's doing to kids.
You could talk about so-called transgenderism and the effect it's having
on our entire generation of children without mentioning Joe Biden or.
Watch his face, the luggage thief.
Or anybody like that.
Sam Britton.
Right.
You know, you can do that without talking about those people at all.
Then you can tie them back to them.
So then you do it more out of sorrow than anger.
It's not that I'm attacking this person.
It's that the policies this person represents are damaging, demonstrably, the most vulnerable among us.
And that's where your emotion and positivity.
I think, Jim, you opened this entire hour by talking about how Democrats give things away in our Santa Clause.
But this is how conservatism, this is how freedom gives to people because it gives you the opportunity for happiness,
real, true, earned happiness.
And, and this is an example of that.
And when you, and I think, you know, good example.
So I'm in Seattle right now.
And one of the things we do in Seattle, you know, Amazon and Microsoft hired a ton of people.
So traffic is crazy.
So what are the things they will do?
Well, if we have a four lane road in the middle of the city, let's make it one lane.
That'll be a good solution.
So we have an enormous drug problem, fentanyl, heroin, and what's the Democrat solution for that?
Well, we should legalize it and give it, give them more and give it to them for free.
And you could just go down the line and it makes you wonder after a while, like, are they sinister or are they just stupid?
And I think that that's You know, as much as the Democrats have branded conservatives, the Republicans should be working to brand Democrats with that question.
Everybody who hears a Democrat position on anything should be asking the question, are they stupid or are they sinister?
Are they trying to ruin this or are they just...
Or they just don't know what to do.
But either way, it's a great choice, because either choice says, whatever it is, they shouldn't
be here.
It's bad.
And take defund the police.
Oh, what a great idea.
Let's defund the police so that we don't put people in jail, but then the criminals go
ahead and destroy the communities of people who you're supposedly protecting.
That's an ad campaign they should be running.
And it's net for us.
People who don't live in the state of Washington think it's a joke when people say, we've decided not to enforce laws.
We've absolutely decided that.
We've hamstrung our police.
Our police don't want to work.
You can't pay them enough.
You've got counties now offering huge bonuses to try and get police officers to work.
But why would you?
Right.
And again, that's their solution to crime.
The solution to crime is, oh, redefine it as not a crime.
Or blame society for the fact that these people were forced into a life of crime as if they had no agency of their own.
And that's another thing.
You know, the Democrats remove agency from all of their client victim groups, and we should offer them agency to gain the American dream.
Come to our side and we won't treat you like a victim group.
We'll treat you like someone who can achieve everything that every one of the rest of us has.
You want to know why Democrats came up with Celebrate Diversity?
Because it is a celebration of their strategy.
We need to divide everybody.
It's the only way.
It's divide and conquer.
It's absolutely the only way to take this over.
Well, and that's part of it.
You know, they separate into identity groups.
Each identity group generates grievances against themselves, and then they use those to gather power and spoils.
The problem is they can't put those back into coherent whole and create a community.
And I think one of the solutions to this, we've been talking about marketing, but we haven't talked a lot of tactics and there's not much time.
But one strategy, I think, is it's a kind of an axiom that the best time to advertise is during a recession.
Since the Republicans don't own the media, they don't own the culture, and they have no way of getting their message out, they need to invest and start advertising on social media, on video, on the internet, but on TV as well.
They need to start advertising right now.
Little 30-second commercials, like just news articles.
How many people do you think have seen the Hunter Biden text?
the head of the air right now out of an election season when everybody's not
be sensitized to election advertising it'd be the you'd be competing with nobody
you'd own that area that segment and you would get attention get people talking you would
basically just creating little thirty second one minute news slot
throughout the day on you know We gotta do it.
I gotta jump now.
Find Ruben von Higgenbotham at thebubbler.co on Twitter, thebubbler.substack.com.
And I'm Jim Hanson.
We'll be back after the break with the last segment of this week's America First.
You there, dude?
I am.
That was a really, really productive set of segments.
I appreciate it, man.
You're a pro.
And now I'm not a virgin anymore.
See?
Now you're a radio personality.
You are an official influencer in the Republican Party.
So thanks, man.
I'll let you know when I'm coming out, and let's talk next week about the secret squirrel shit.
That was so fun, and I'm so thankful you gave me the chance.
Thanks, Jim.
That was really awesome.
Well, dude, I get to talk to you, and I want more people to hear this stuff.
You could tell by the engagement we got from the callers.
It was a good thing.
So enjoy your weekend, and let's talk Tuesday or Wednesday.
Right on.
Well, thanks.
All right, man.
Bye.
All right.
See ya.
Yeah, I'm watching the Blaze's stream on YouTube of this thing.
I'm watching on mute so I can pay attention to the show, but the chat seems to be hating DeSantis.
They're all spamming crap like, you know, Trump 2024.
Like, DeSantis sounds like a Karen.
He has a nasally voice.
This is a Blaze, mind you, so it's not exactly like this is Breitbart or something.
You would think they'd lean more towards the Sans, but no, they seem to hate him.
But I'm willing to bet that there was an opportunity to attack, you know what I mean?
And that Tucker hasn't gone for it yet?
Well, no, that the kind of people who do that would take opportunity, whether they're Blaze or whatever.
Yeah, nothing there is about what he said.
Yeah, it's all people taking advantage of it.
I'm seeing some comments saying apparently he's touting his military service, and people are like, dude, you were a jag.
Like I'm seeing that in the chat, but Oh, he's hitting them on ukraine now
One minute Hey, Eric, can you, or I don't know if you're the one who does it, but can you guys get me the rumble or the stream portion of my talk with Ruben?
Oh, um, yeah.
Well, hang on.
How exactly do you want that?
I want the raw video.
If you could cut it up and put it up as a segment, that would be great.
I can do that.
It'll take a little time, but I can get it to you sometime tonight.
I don't need it tonight.
I just need it.
If it goes up on the America First Rumble channel, that'd be great, but then I want to cut some clips out of it.
Okay, um... I can work on it sometime this weekend.
I just want to have the whole thing so I can pick the best part.
I can work on it sometime this weekend.
Yeah, and dude, like I said, it's not time sensitive.
I just want the raw footage.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
Alright, it's been a rollicking three hours.
I think we got some good stuff done.
I love guest hosting.
It happens just seldom enough that I can come with a full range of grievances to air.
So I appreciate you guys participating and letting me vent and listening to some good guests.
I did kind of set up a cheater poll because there's a segment I keep trying to get in the poll when I let the readers choose or the listeners choose what the segment is.
But I want to do why Gen X is better than Gen Z. Now I'm gonna guess there's a fair contingent of us Gen X folks listening right now because we're us.
We're in charge right now.
And I think we are literally the last great American generation because we're the last generation got the full benefit of living a life that was the American dream.
You learned in school the truths that this nation was founded on without a liberal focus.
You were given the opportunity to have a better life than your parents because, you know, they have lived their lives in a responsible way that enabled them to give you that.
The entire country had not lost its mind and gone woke and stupid.
You know, the left had started what they were doing, their fundamental transformation, but it hadn't come to play yet.
And then you look at Gen Z, which is the first generation that was fully indoctrinated into this system.
Now, the millennials, I'll admit, they got screwed.
You know, they were kind of stuck between this, not part of the greatest last generation and not the new fully woke generation.
They're kind of the just screwed over generation.
But Gen Z now is this absurd collection of fully indoctrinated social justice warrior wankers who seem to think that somehow they hold a moral high ground they've done not a single thing to earn.
And let me tell you, we got handed a better deal than they did, okay?
I will admit that.
But we also got handed the tools to make it better ourselves and the responsibility to know that that's what we were supposed to do.
The Gen Z have come to their ability now to look at the world and they think the world owes them something.
And I can tell you right now, the world owes you nothing but air and opportunity.
And guess what?
You have to make something of that.
I made something of my life from nothing, joined the army when I was 18 years old after getting five incompletes at the University of Wisconsin.
But I did that, and then I recovered from it.
And I've been up and down since, and I knew that that was on me.
Gen Z, You believe that the world owes you something and the rest of us should get out of your way and let it give it to you.
And that just ain't the way it's gonna be.
So hey, Seb's on vacation.
I think you're going to have a lot of guest host action.
And he's going to get some rest, or not, knowing him.
But I've enjoyed spending some time with you guys, as always.
I'm going to have a great weekend.
You guys live life.
It's summer.
Enjoy.
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