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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Fascist Fauci gets a golden parachute at Georgetown

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	♪♪ ♪♪
	It's Wednesday, isn't it?
	Slow news days, usually.
	Middle of the week.
	Well, not today.
	Greetings, dear friends.
	Here are some of the things we will be covering.
	The golden parachute given to that little fascist Fauci at Georgetown University.
	You won't be surprised, or maybe you will, at the...
	The topic they left out of his resume on the website and the announcement.
	It has to do with something that came out of China.
	Begins with the letter C. I'll let you think about that one.
	The latest from the IRS whistleblowers.
	Six new witnesses concerning the Swamps attempt to shut down the investigation of the president's son, Hunter Biden.
	Latest news from Bud Light.
	It looks like maybe there were some personnel consequences for losing, what is it now, 15 billion dollars for supporting the transgender radicals.
	Then we have John Bolton embarrassing himself as usual.
	And the latest new encrypted WhatsApp message from Hunter Biden detailing his corrupt dealings.
	Well, so much to discuss.
	Perhaps the most interesting thing is this.
	I used to have a colleague at Fox called Catherine Herridge.
	Old school investigative journalist.
	Her office was like a tsunami of paper.
	There wasn't a place you could put a coffee cup down.
	Even one of these natty LGBTQ coffee cups.
	Do you have one of these?
	It says, let's get Biden to quit on that.
	Pride Month is almost over!
	You better order it now!
	You couldn't put a coffee cup down, well yeah, SebGawkerStore.com, go and check it out, in her office because she had piles of paper and congressional reports and yellow notepads full of her scribbles.
	Well, she, um, she left.
	Fox to work for what was it CBS kind of shocked all of us it's like really what CBS that's like lying legacy media why did I mean Fox since then has gone downhill but maybe she saw the tea leaves anyway this whole thing about the tape recording of President Trump talking about the Iranian war plan Mark Milley had drawn up Here's a very interesting little tweet about that document and the Iranian war plan from Katherine Herridge.
	Multiple sources have previously told CBS News defense attorneys, meaning President Trump's defense attorneys, We're not certain the classified memo in question was ever recovered from Mar-a-Lago and returned to the government.
	According to an unnamed senior DOJ official, what does this mean?
	Quote, in a way it might be analogous to try and prove a murder case without a body.
	Isn't that interesting?
	The document President Trump was supposed to have shown somebody who wasn't supposed to see it.
	They don't have it!
	After they raided his home.
	How do they not have it after they raided his home at gunpoint?
	This tweet was retweeted with commentary from Brian Cates of Draw and Strike.
	Follow the Twitter account at Draw and Strike.
	Let me translate for you.
	Does the Jack Smith Special Counsel's Office or the National Archives have in its possession at this time the Iran memo being discussed on the leaked audio tape?
	Trump's lawyers.
	Uh, we have no idea.
	They never specifically asked for that document.
	Again, let me point out, even though the transcript of the Bedminster meeting audio tape appears in the Trump 39 count indictment, none of the 39 counts mention a classified document or other classified documents being illegally possessed or displayed at Trump's Bedminster resort.
	If the Iran memo was a key issue in the upcoming trial, if it was going to be introduced into evidence and shown to the jury, they would have already seized it by now and charged Trump for displaying it.
	Now, I know this is technical, guys.
	I get it.
	I get it.
	But it's huge!
	It means what?
	The thing they want to accuse him of doing, they don't even have the proof that the document exists.
	They have nothing to quote Al Capone from a certain movie.
	All right, that's one thing.
	Take your logical hat off for a second and put your political hat on.
	I was talking to Will Witt earlier today.
	Good guy, good guy.
	Former Prager University alum.
	And he made a point in a video he showed me, that I'll share on my social media accounts, that we have to wake up.
	The good guys who believe in the Constitution, believe in the rule of law, have to wake up and stop making good faith arguments, like the one I just made.
	This is a logical argument, okay?
	Like the ones I've been making concerning the fact that the only thing that regulates presidential records is the 1978 Presidential Records Act, which is a civil act, not a criminal act.
	Therefore, the president cannot be charged with any felonies.
	Period!
	End of story!
	Or the other good faith argument.
	The case against the president breaches the client-attorney barrier.
	It breaks the client-attorney barrier with evidence from attorneys being used against President Trump.
	As such, it should be jettisoned day one of the hearing of the trial.
	But those are logical good faith arguments.
	And in fact, they're all bloody irrelevant, every single one of them.
	Why?
	Because the other side's not going to suddenly surrender, oh you got us, nicely argued council.
	They want to destroy him.
	They want to put him in prison, or worse, and they want to destroy every single one of you if you dare to go against them.
	This isn't about logic or the debating society, this is about Full-on annihilation.
	If the other side wants to annihilate you, if believes that you're a white supremacist, you're a Nazi, you're a descendant of slave owners, then there is no reasoned response.
	The only thing we can do is to utterly and completely crush them.
	Politically, they must cease to exist at the next election.
	We must so wipe the face of the earth politically with these people that if they ever recover and resuscitate themselves, they do so in a way In which they recognize that they have to play by the rules.
	No more ripping up the Constitution.
	No more raiding the homes of pro-life preachers because they dare to be pro-life.
	No more spying on parents at school board meetings because they want their kids to go back to school without wearing a mask.
	They will not arrive at those conclusions.
	They will never respect all that is sacred.
	They will never respect law and order and the U.S.
	Constitution unless they are utterly and completely destroyed in a political match.
	That match is the next election.
	I ask you now, what on God's green earth are you doing to make that happen?
	Because if you're not, don't tune into this radio show because you're on their side.
	I don't want to hear another, they're going to win, I'm not going to vote again.
	Then you are a cuckold.
	You are a coward.
	And you are un-American because you're not prepared to do what it takes to politically win.
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	We've only just begun.
	♪♪ Alex.
	In the rumble chat, user tmcb76 says, can we send a copy of this monologue to Speaker McCarthy?
	He needs to stop thinking logically and start acting like Seb describes.
	Oh, I like that.
	Thank you, buddy.
	Thank you.
	Post that.
	Time to destroy the Democrats.
	Yup.
	And title for Lee?
	Oh, so much.
	What was it you said at the very end there?
	The positive thing he said?
	We were blessed to live in this time or something like that?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Kind of an optimistic note, but I get it.
	Uh-huh.
	Hey, it's Jeff, this is Rastafari.
	Uh, he talks in the commercial break, just so you know, we're live on the Rumble, the commercial break side.
	I don't know how President Trump does it.
	Alright, mics are on and we have him on the line.
	Mr. Homan.
	What's going on?
	Hey, I missed you at Bedminster.
	Hey, I couldn't get there.
	Oh, right.
	How you doing?
	I'm busy, man.
	I'm in Arizona right now.
	I'll invite you to Bedminster tomorrow for Kerry Lake book signing.
	I can't make that either, man.
	I'm traveling like a sunbitch.
	Oh, she's having a book event tomorrow?
	Yeah, Bedminster, yeah.
	Good.
	Alright, I'm going to ask you about... Thank you for saying what you said about DeSantis.
	I don't know, he's trying to attack the President on being weak on the border?
	It's crazy.
	It's ridiculous.
	Now, Ken Cuccinelli's working with his team, so Ken's dealing with that shit.
	Yeah, he's such a backstabber.
	Well, I told Ken, I called Ken up and said, well, you know, I saw you gave a comment on DeSantis' comment, but Ken could have done more, so Ken, let me say this.
	Yeah, totally, totally.
	All right, we're going to be live in 70 seconds.
	Did that mean you failed?
	Because I should have done more?
	What did he say?
	That's not what I mean, Thomas.
	That's exactly what you mean.
	So if this falls on you, so you want to go that way, then I'll say, look, he may be right, but if he's right, he's
	a failure.
	Yeah, totally, totally.
	All right, we're going to be live in 70 seconds.
	Stand by.
	All right, you got it.
	All right.
	Can you play the cut seven again?
	Seven.
	We talked about Kamala earlier.
	She is the Border Czarina.
	How would you rate her performance as Border Czarina?
	So she wasn't Border Czar.
	She was talking about immigration and she went into the root causes of migration, particularly from the Northern Triangle and Central America.
	So she wasn't Border Czar.
	I don't agree with that characterization.
	Whatever you want to call it.
	So he disagrees with Biden?
	Yeah, he does.
	You want to use that here?
	Yeah, I will.
	I just want to send you an article to make into a... PhD.
	Thank you.
	That's right.
	Here, I'm texting it to you now.
	Uh-huh.
	Well, this interview is not Newsmax, right?
	No, no, no, no, no.
	I'm just using a clip from Newsmax.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Don't worry, don't worry.
	Are you with them now?
	Yeah.
	Well, congratulations.
	Thank you.
	A man.
	A legend.
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	Alright I was hosting my buddy Chris Plant's show yesterday on Newsmax, the
	Right Squad, and it got a little bit spicy with the one Democrat on the panel
	who, I guess he doesn't like reality, he didn't want to believe that the Vice
	President is the point person, is the Bordasar for Biden.
	Jason Nichols was having none of it.
	Cut seven.
	We talked about Kamala earlier.
	She is the Border Czarina.
	How would you rate her performance as Border Czarina?
	So she wasn't Border Czar.
	She was talking about immigration and she went into the root causes of migration, particularly from the Northern Triangle and Central America.
	So she wasn't Border Czar.
	I don't agree with that characterization.
	Whatever you want to call it.
	Is he dead naming her, calling her Borda Czar?
	A Czar is a man and she's a woman.
	Woman.
	It's Borda Czarina.
	Jason Nicholson.
	No, no, no.
	It got even spicier.
	We'll show you that later.
	But let's stay on the issue of the Borda.
	Let's talk to the man who kept us safe for years.
	In fact, for decades inside DHS, inside ICE.
	He's a patriot and a truth teller.
	Tom Holman.
	Welcome back to America First.
	So, I'm confused.
	Why would a Democrat not want to admit that Kamala Harris is in charge of the border, Tom?
	Because there's a huge barrier. And I know she quoted, you know, she looked at the underlying reasons for the
	migration.
	And I've said this many times, she's just got to walk down the hall to the Biden office. There's the underlying reason.
	Right, explain to us what the underlying reasons are for six million illegals.
	Because they purposely unsecured the most secure border they ever had.
	They're back to catch release.
	People are crossing the border to be released every day.
	And look, they say the border number's down.
	Let me be clear on this.
	The border numbers aren't down.
	They're just moving those who usually enter illegally between the points of entry, and they're pushing them to the port of entry illegally, which they'll lose the court when it gets to court.
	Well, I looked at numbers the other day.
	Here's the numbers.
	They got 11 ports of entry have been identified.
	They got a quota of 550 per day at each port of entry.
	That's 6,000.
	And July 1st, it's going to go to 600 days.
	So we're well over 6,000 to bring in an illegal port of entry.
	We're still arresting about 3,500 between the ports of entry.
	OK, so that's almost 10,000 a day.
	We got away with over 1,000 a day.
	There are over 10,000 illegal aliens entering this country every day.
	The difference is, over half of them, they're being moved into the United States by the Biden administration.
	Right, so the way I explain it is they're talking about drops in migration simply because they've changed the labels.
	And they've pre-cleared these people with the government apps, with everything else.
	They're basically relabeling illegals.
	Isn't that correct?
	Absolutely.
	And if you look at the numbers, how many of these people I've shown up at the ICE office to be processed?
	And these are people coming from all over the planet, correct?
	They say that Oklahoma was, you know, in the triangle, in the hemisphere, looking at the root causes.
	of these people that are releasing the United States are in the wind. We don't know where
	the hell they are.
	And these are people coming from all over the planet, correct? They say that Oklahomala
	was in the triangle, in the hemisphere, looking at the root causes. But these people are coming
	from everywhere, Tom.
	171 different countries, and many of these countries are responsible for terror.
	That don't scare the hell out of everybody.
	Alright, so let's talk about how this is affecting politics in the presidential candidacy race.
	I saw a very good interview with you recently.
	What is your response to the governor of Florida saying that President Trump wasn't serious on immigration and he'd be much tougher?
	Well, again, I worked for six presidents, starting with Ronald Reagan.
	No one did more than President Trump.
	Illegal immigration was down 82%.
	Illegal immigration at a 45-year low.
	What President Trump did was unprecedented.
	He built 465 miles of wall.
	DeSantis hasn't built a single inch.
	So, I don't know how you attack a president who's a game-changer, who saved lives on the border, gave us the most secure border in my lifetime.
	No, he can keep talking the talk, but President Trump walked the walk and he proved himself.
	And for someone to come out and say to the president, it's just sad.
	This guy's all beat.
	And plus, the other day I seen his press conference in Texas.
	He's supporting every one of Trump's policies.
	Look, if there's such a thing as stealing somebody's thunder, he wants to claim all these policies that are actually Trump's policies.
	All right, so here's the big question.
	get a guy credit for it. If you want to tell the policies such as remain in
	Mexico and build in the wall, credit the guy who came up with the policies, credit the guy
	who implemented policies, credit the guy who had unprecedented success with these
	policies. All right so here's the big question we've only got time for one
	more Tom and it's the one that I think is the toughest question of all.
	If President Trump wins, if we do our part, if we can get people like you and Mark Morgan and the good guys back in the administration, not Ken Cuccinelli, we don't need any backstabbers, but if we get the good guys back, I know you can fix this overnight because you put in place all the things you did for President Trump, but what on earth can we legally do with the by then, I don't know, 10, 12, 15 million illegal aliens who've been let in?
	Can we do anything about them, Tom Homan?
	Oh look, let me say this, for the millions of people this administration is releasing into the United States lately, my message to them, don't get too comfortable.
	So the legal tools exist to manage millions of people's deportation.
	you and we'll deport you. That is due process. All the leftists are demanding due process,
	due process. They got a right to see a judge. Okay, they do.
	But you know what? We all have a right to execute the final orders of that judge. So don't
	get too comfortable. The next administration will be looking for you. So the legal tools
	exist to manage millions of people's deportation. It can be done, Tom? Look, can we
	arrest 20 men?
	Probably not.
	But what we do, we look for as many as we can, one at a time.
	And also, we pass E-Verify.
	We make it impossible for them to get a job here illegally.
	We stop giving them benefits like welfare and social services.
	We say them to United States citizens, those who pay taxes, right?
	We can make her uncomfortable for them, and that will work.
	But we can't do it unless there's a consequence, unless there's a deterrent.
	And none of them, none of them get amnesty, none of them get DACA, none of them get... We cannot reward legal behavior because if we reward legal behavior, it's just going to keep coming.
	Rewarding legal behavior stops for the Trump administration.
	Well, we need you back there.
	God willing, you will be.
	He's the former Director for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the author of Defend the Border and Save Lives.
	Thank you, Tom Homan.
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	Mic's on!
	Mike's on. Oh, count to five, please. Five. Five. Five.
	Five. Five. Five. Five. Five. Five.
	Oh, hang on, that's the wrong one.
	Here we go, I got it, I got it.
	It's the one before six.
	But there's been blowback.
	That was yesterday's five.
	And who are the libs blaming?
	They're not mad at the guys running around naked in front of kids, they're mad at us for noticing the guys running around naked in front of kids.
	George Takai, aka Sulu and nothing else, said, Even if there were no naked guys on bikes this year, the right would find pictures or generate them and push the same agenda anyway.
	So you got that?
	If those guys weren't naked in front of kids, you'd just make up the story that they were anyway.
	So who cares if it's actually real?
	Well, that's quite a defense.
	Officer, we're gonna preempt your false accusation by actually committing the crime you accuse us of.
	Sorry, Sulu.
	We're not the side that has to make up hoaxes all the time.
	That's your side.
	That was good.
	I'm sending you two articles for the Key City guy as buffers, please.
	Yep.
	Uh, what else do we have?
	Oh, nine, please.
	Nine.
	I'm a whistleblower lawyer.
	This guy is not a whistleblower.
	A whistleblower goes within the agency, follows the procedure, says something wrong has happened.
	This guy is just a complainer with maybe a political axe to grind or maybe just a professional.
	Well, he was granted whistleblower status by the Republican-led Ways and Means Committee.
	That's why we called him that.
	Normally, I defer and I just say agent or officer.
	I agree, although they're in a great sort of Orwellian run of calling anything, you know, they want to expunge the impeachment.
	All I'm saying is a whistleblower means someone who reports malfeasance in the agency, goes all through the process, is rebuffed.
	This guy is a, you know, has a political grievance, or maybe a professional one, but he's just one guy, he didn't go through any process, there's no corroboration, and it's implausible.
	That's my brief reaction.
	Harry, that's why we're so glad we have you and your expertise.
	I really appreciate it.
	And, Vaughn, it's invaluable to have you here, knowing Donald Trump the way you do.
	Thank you.
	That's just their new line.
	Oh, they're not whistleblowers.
	Like, that's the new line to go with now.
	Amazing.
	Amazing.
	Obviously, the Watergate guys just had an axe to grind with Nixon.
	Right.
	Cut three.
	Thank you.
	It's really important for Democrats to take him seriously.
	You know, there can be a tendency, I see sometimes, for people on the Democratic side to say, well, look, sure, you know, the Republicans will nominate him, the Republicans are a mess, but we'll be able to beat him in a general.
	And that is playing with fire, and it's a risk we can't take.
	So I think it's really important for Everyone to look at the threat that he poses apart from from party ideology and and realize it's something that we have to take very seriously and we've got to stand against.
	All right, I'm gonna use that.
	Got three here, all right.
	How's your mother-in-law doing, Jeff?
	Thank you, Jeff.
	You You
	Making sense out of today's nonsense. Here's dr. Sebastian Gorka
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	Um, Help me out here, Eric.
	Liz Cheney, ex-Congresswoman, right?
	What party?
	I'm pretty sure she's the same party as her father, the former Vice President of the Republican Party.
	Okay, so she's got, she had the letter R behind her name.
	Alright.
	That's what I thought.
	But it doesn't make any sense because she said this at the Aspen Institute.
	Play cut.
	It's really important for Democrats to take him seriously.
	You know, there can be a tendency, I see sometimes, for people on the Democratic side to say, well, look, sure, you know, the Republicans will nominate him.
	The Republicans are a mess.
	But we'll be able to beat him in a general.
	And that is playing with fire.
	And it's a risk we can't take.
	So I think it's really important for Jeff, help me out.
	Why is somebody who was a Republican Congresswoman until yesterday giving advice to the Democrats at a public event?
	Because she knows that he's probably going to win.
	very seriously and we've got to stand against.
	Jeff help me out, why is somebody who was a Republican Congresswoman until yesterday
	giving advice to the Democrats at a public event?
	Because she knows that he's probably going to win.
	And why is, why, this is when suddenly the curtain gets ripped apart.
	Why is the American people choosing President Trump again?
	Why is that quote-unquote a threat?
	I think it's more kind of what she's saying is more of a wake-up call because their whole plan to end Trump is not working.
	It's backfiring.
	They thought they're gonna end him with January 6th, that it was gonna make it so bad that he couldn't run again.
	Then they thought the indictments are gonna work every single thing that they were doing.
	His poll numbers are going up.
	That's what I think this is.
	This is a call that it's not working.
	Okay, but to use the word threat means that the majority of American people choosing the president is bad.
	That's kind of been their whole campaign, is just to stir up fear.
	You know, the ultra-MAGA extremists, all that thing.
	It's always that he's a threat.
	That's what Brennan says all of them, all the time.
	I guess they have massive disdain for the will of the people upon which this nation was built.
	All right, let's go to your calls.
	Thank you, Jeff.
	Thank you, Eric.
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	All right, what's your question?
	We've got less than a minute.
	Fire away.
	Yes, sir.
	I was listening to Andrew McCarthy, this never-Trumper that people admire for some reason.
	National Review.
	I grew up with William F. Buckley.
	I loved him.
	He's turning over his grave with all these clowns that run that show now.
	He wrote this thing about Obama with classified info back years ago, said there's nothing you can do, he's the president, if he's got it, it's within the law, you can't prosecute him, and now he's changing his tune and saying, oh no, with Trump, he's in a whole world of trouble.
	Yeah, you know, he's contradicting himself, making himself look like the All right, look, I'm greatly disappointed in Andy McCarthy.
	Stay on the line.
	I want you to tell Jeff I hadn't seen him defend Obama on classified documents, and if you can give us the reference, I need to read that.
	Thank you, Randy.
	Thank you for reminding me about the spirit of the old country.
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	But first things first, just when you thought the government would stop trying to take over more of your health care, there's a new sneaky bill working its way through the U.S.
	Senate led by that crazy commie Bernie Sanders of Vermont.
	So I'm asking you to support the Council for Citizens Against Government Waste to stop the Senate from passing the Sanders bill.
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	It is incredible, absolutely stunning, that they are actually touting Bidenomics.
	Yes, the White House is using the phrase Bidenomics, given everything we have witnessed in the last two years.
	I'm not sure that's something you should be proud of.
	Let's look at the latest developments with our good friends from Key City Capital.
	Stephen Patterson is on deck.
	Stephen, welcome back to America First.
	We've got this news from the Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell.
	It seems to be indicating that, quote, More restrictions are coming, including the possibility of rate hikes in consecutive meetings of the Fed.
	So, one after another.
	Talk about what this means for the average American and why, as a result, real estate will be affected.
	Yeah, I know.
	I think that he's made it very clear that he sees two more rate hikes coming this year.
	They paused in June.
	We were glad to see that to see if there was any lagging effects from the previous 10 consecutive increases.
	But I think a quarter point is due in June and most likely a quarter point in August, given the data as it stands right now.
	Is this a little too little too late?
	How does this affect the market?
	What is your expectation?
	You are the true experts at KeyCity.
	No, I think that they're trying to play catch-up.
	There has been so much unnecessary government spending.
	This is the price for $32 trillion of debt.
	People often say, well, they've spent, you know, Congress has spent this money.
	Oh, well, we needed, you know, we needed COVID relief.
	And now, well, we needed this relief.
	Well, this is the, this is the tax that comes with that type of government spending.
	And it affects every one of us.
	Every time we go to the grocery store, every time we go get a bank loan, every time we use the credit card, you're going to pay for it with a higher interest rate.
	We're talking to Stephen Patterson, Chief Client Officer for Key City Capital.
	It's keycitycapital.com.
	The second story is from CNBC and it talks about the increased demand for mortgages which is driven by the sales for new homes.
	This just means, does it not Stephen, that real estate and especially rental properties are more attractive than ever in terms of investment.
	Absolutely.
	When you see these rate increases going up right now, the average 30-year mortgage, 6.75%.
	That's a number we haven't seen in decades.
	When those numbers are like that, it is putting people needing rental real estate.
	It is a demand.
	And being able to position your portfolio to take advantage of those rate increases, those rental rate increases, And how the growth of those properties is tracking right now is where Key City Capital comes in to help you.
	Now, in these uncertain times when everybody's just waiting for the next shooter drop on Wall Street or for the next rate hike, talk to us about what you can offer, what Key City Capital is doing and why it's pretty much open to anybody who just wants a little bit of stability and some secured income.
	That's right.
	You know, when you think about rental real estate, you're thinking about an apartment complex.
	You're thinking about a single family unit.
	That's a hard asset.
	That hard asset appreciates over time.
	But what makes rental real estate particularly attractive is the cash flow.
	Monthly rent is being collected and that rent is distributed out to our clients.
	We're buying 50 to 100 million dollar apartment complexes and we then cash flow those to you on a quarterly basis with an 8% preferred rate of return.
	Wow!
	And how much of a headache is it?
	How much of a, you know, is your investor, your client having to go in there to fix a broken AC?
	Talk to us about what it means.
	No, and that's the beauty of it.
	I've talked to people all the time that said, I've always had an interest in real estate or maybe they owned real estate at one point in time and they got out of it because they were tired of the 2 a.m.
	phone call that the hot water heater wasn't working or the roof was leaking.
	Our investors are in a completely passive environment, meaning we handle all the problems and they collect the check.
	And do you have to be Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg to be a client of Key City Capital?
	Absolutely not.
	All you have to be is a patriot that is looking for a stable asset class that takes you out of the hustle and bustle of the everyday Wall Street nightmare and gives you an opportunity to not only help people that need a place to live, but to help your portfolio grow against this Biden inflation.
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	That's the current encounter of the White House trying to explain what happened in Pennsylvania just a few weeks ago.
	Unbelievable.
	Fox is now having a panel on Fox interns discussing COVID protocols in the office.
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	Yes, so my question is this.
	We've been told that when these businessmen out of China, there's no such thing as a businessman.
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	So we do know now that Hunter Biden threatened these people.
	So is all this Chinese aggression, is that retaliation?
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	So the Chinese have been threatened.
	You think the balloon and the warships could all be about Hunter?
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	he said if he does leave it wouldn't be until at least September.
	He'd stay as long as we can.
	Destiny, hello, hello.
	Hello, hello!
	Hi, Jen!
	How goes it?
	Hello!
	You look tremendous today.
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	Jeff keep an eye on Sky. It's my hair okay?
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	Your hair looks gorgeous.
	Thank you.
	So what's going on around there?
	Dr. G is telling us about Hungarian liquor.
	Hungarian liquor?
	Ask him if they have Slivowitz in Hungarian liquor stores.
	Say it again?
	What's it called?
	Slivowitz.
	Test test test. One, two, one.
	1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	Slivovitz.
	We can hear you.
	Can you hear us?
	We can hear you.
	Awesome.
	Shot looks good.
	Good.
	Yeah, Slivowitz is like a plum liqueur that they make in the Czech Republic that is high potency.
	Like, I think they make up for heaters during the winter, whistleblowers.
	It is intense.
	No problem.
	90.
	So what else is happening?
	Well, it's Wednesday.
	It's half way through the week.
	Hello!
	Okay, do you know Slivowitz?
	Of course, of course.
	Thank you.
	I heard you're talking about Hungarian liquor.
	That's plum, right?
	That's plum.
	That's right.
	I just told the boys that's what they use in lieu of heaters in the Czech Republic.
	During the winter.
	Of course.
	Just drink Slivowitz and you don't need it.
	You can run your jet fighters on it too.
	That's right.
	It's very multifunctional.
	All right.
	We're going to have fun?
	I hope so.
	What do you mean?
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	That's not the Jennifer Horn I know.
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	What are you having most fun on today?
	What topic got people calling in?
	Well, oh, we've got California now getting rid of the gas tax and wanting to implement a mileage tax since they're pushing everyone to electric vehicles.
	Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
	That's a fun one.
	We've still got a lot going on with the parents who are, you know, all ginned up about the transgender curriculum.
	We had some fun with the Hunter Biden text messages today.
	Oh, we haven't even discussed that.
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	Jennifer, how the dickens are you doing?
	I am doing great.
	I am ready to go.
	I'm wearing my red today.
	I am preparing for the 4th of July.
	This time of year makes me feel patriotic, as does the fall of the Biden crime dynasty.
	So it's all very exciting.
	What will you be drinking?
	We were talking about alcohol in the break, the national spirit of Hungary, Unikum.
	You were mentioning Slivovitz from the Czech Republic.
	I just realized that this year actually My gosh, this month, so we're almost past it, is the 20th.
	Is that possible?
	2003.
	Oh my gosh.
	The 20th anniversary that I and my muse, my wife Katie, stopped drinking.
	20 years, huh?
	20?
	I know, I stopped when I was 10.
	You know, on behalf of all Americans, I thank you for leaving more for the rest of us.
	Oh, there you go!
	I'm making the pie bigger by sacrificing my units, my daily units, I'm making the pie bigger.
	All right, what's your, I know it's not Bud Light, what is your tip of choice going to be on the 4th?
	You know, OK, so it's funny.
	I think most people in their 20s, you can do just about anything like not these days.
	I can do vodka usually, but mostly wine.
	That's kind of like that's kind of the jam for me.
	You know, the thing I regret.
	That I would never drink again if I were drinking.
	Yeah.
	Because it's evil.
	Tequila.
	I know.
	It's just wrong.
	All the regrets in my life have usually come as a result of tequila.
	What is it about it?
	I don't know.
	I think there's a devil inside the bottle or something.
	It's something.
	It's like no other alcohol ever.
	You try, I mean, it's like a couple of shots of tequila and like all of a sudden you are just, I don't know, a country music song in action.
	I don't know.
	It's very bizarre.
	But no, we were talking about Slivowitz because when I came on, the first thing I always say is, what's going on?
	How's it going?
	And I heard Seb is in the control room talking about Hungarian liquor.
	And I went, wait a second, because, you know, you're my, you're my Hungarian brother.
	I'm your Czech sister.
	Yes.
	We're nearby each other, right?
	Yeah.
	As far as Slivowitz goes.
	And so when I was in the Czech Republic in 2015, I did a full tour of the Slivowitz factory and learned all about Slivowitz.
	And boy oh boy, if you want to get rid of heating during the winter months, just take a little Slivowitz.
	It'll warm you right up.
	As you mentioned, it'll fuel your jets.
	It'll do pretty much anything.
	Jet fighters, four-ton trucks, you can clean your guns with it, whatever you need.
	That plum brandy is a multifarious liquid.
	It absolutely is.
	You can breathe fire if you're interested in developing your special human trick, I think.
	But yeah, I don't know.
	This 4th of July, I'll be working in between.
	I know that's a surprise.
	I'll be working Monday and Wednesday.
	So I think it might just be maybe a nice glass of white wine.
	How about that?
	What do you like?
	Do you like a dry Chardonnay?
	What do you prefer?
	Well, you know I'm a sommelier.
	Did you know this?
	I know you and your father are pretty professional when it comes to the juice of the grape.
	Yes, we have a pen.
	We've been through the classes, all that stuff.
	My very favorite white wine is a Viognier.
	I like a Sauvignon Blanc.
	Chardonnay is okay, too.
	I'm definitely more of a dry, non-sweet wine girl.
	I like it nice and dry.
	For summer red wines, I'd recommend a nice Grenache, maybe a Pinot Noir.
	You are a pro.
	You're talking about stuff I've never heard of.
	So, a couple of weeks ago, my best buddy who lives in North Carolina came up to Virginia and he's a very successful self-made man, built his own company with his brother, sold it for millions.
	You know what he's doing now?
	He spent the last two years studying, what do you call it, the art of vineyards.
	Vin culture.
	Yeah, viniculture.
	So he went to the community college just for fun and he now knows how to do it all.
	He can talk to you about pH balances, fertilizers, blah, blah, blah.
	And we went wine tasting in Virginia.
	And I did, my wife just sat there and kind of gave me the kind of stink eye.
	And I did the, you know, drink it, spit it out into the bucket.
	It was fun!
	That's actually, that's the pro way to do it, by the way.
	You know, my dad judges the L.A.
	International Wine Competition, and they have to taste like a hundred wines in a sitting to award ribbons and stuff.
	And the only way you can do it is if you swish and spit.
	That's actually the professional way.
	I know, you know, us dumb Americans are like, Drink every little bit and don't waste a drop.
	But you're actually supposed to do that and it is a lot of fun.
	The reason I got into wine anyway is the history that comes with it.
	There are such amazing stories that come from wine and like the grapes from across the street.
	I mean two of the same grape grown across the street from each other can taste totally different.
	And how some people, he was telling me, how some people can actually taste the difference.
	Yeah, no, I mean, that is what we did during Psalm training is I had to take a sip of wine and I was doing this actually at Disney because I was able to sit a class that Disney employees had to go through and I had to spit all my wine into a Mickey Mouse cup, which was super hot.
	And I actually had to stand up.
	I tasted a white wine, which was not my strong suit.
	I was a red wine drinker at the time.
	And I stood up, and I identified this Viognier from Santa Barbara County, 2007.
	That's crazy.
	It's insane.
	And some of the people who are really talented that become master sommeliers, they, man, every wine is fair game.
	And they have to name what it is, where it came from.
	Have you been watching the TV show Drops of God?
	I've never seen it.
	What?
	I've been watching Jury Duty.
	Oh my gosh.
	It's an Apple product, I think.
	It's funky because it's filmed in Japan and France, and it's trilingual.
	The actress speaks French and English and Japanese, and it's about a woman who was brought up by the most famous wine collector in the world who dies and then leaves his $80 million worth of wine collection to her and his favorite students, but they have to have a competition to see who wins it.
	It's actually quite good.
	What is it called?
	Drops of God.
	Drops?
	Okay, I know what that is.
	And you have to work out the big reveal, which gets the prize as to winning the cellar, is what Drops of God actually refers to.
	Drops of God, okay.
	I'm gonna check this out.
	I thought you were the culture vulture.
	I thought you were always ingesting the latest.
	I try.
	I try.
	But sometimes, you know, sometimes that stuff gets past me.
	But this is wine!
	This is a show about wine!
	I'm going to start it because I'm almost done.
	So when I was on jury duty about a month ago, which I called here, I called to America First while I was on jury duty.
	Someone recommended the show Jury Duty to me because I had such a crazy experience and it was so nutty.
	Is that like a drama or what?
	Is that a reality TV?
	What is it?
	This is why I have to tell you.
	So I was like, I want to write a TV show about what I just saw and what I went through because there's something there with all the weird people you're coupled with, right?
	And so I was kind of saying that to people and they said, well, Jen, there's already a show called Jury Duty.
	It is about one guy who gets picked and he thinks he's just doing a documentary about serving jury, but he's put with all of these other people who are actors, including the judge, the defendant, the plaintiff, and he doesn't know.
	Now, I'm on the reveal episode.
	I can't wait to see what he does when he reacts, but they put him in these crazy situations.
	And this is true, right?
	This is a real guy who didn't know.
	He didn't know.
	They picked him out of Craigslist.
	They said, you know, you get $1,000 to make a documentary about being on jury duty, and he applied along with a few thousand other people.
	They picked him.
	It's in the Huntington Park Court in L.A., and they put him through this civil trial, and they end up sequestering them, which would never happen during a civil trial.
	It's been very funny to watch, and I'm interested to see how the experiment ends.
	That's where I am at the last episode.
	Well, just tune in to our radio show to get your latest TV recommendations.
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	Jury duty and drops of God.
	We will continue maybe with some movie recommendations or your favorite video games next.
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	I'll say this.
	There are times where Donald Trump has called people disloyal, and I really didn't like it.
	When he called American Jews disloyal, I thought it was anti-Semitic.
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	You don't get to say that.
	A man whose grandchildren are Jewish.
	You don't get to say that on the show.
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	I just did.
	Don't do that.
	His children are Jewish.
	His daughter converted.
	Okay, I didn't say that.
	He didn't say anything about unloyal Jewish people.
	That's what he said.
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	Look it up.
	Stick on the topic.
	Look it up.
	Look it up.
	Stick on the topic.
	Look it up.
	Fatality.
	Un-freaking-believable.
	Where did they even get this stuff?
	I love your other two.
	I don't know who they were, but they both put their face down, and I'm sitting here going like this.
	No, come on!
	I've got a Marine on my right who's not saying anything.
	Who was that?
	That was Mark, it was?
	And why did he put his head down?
	He's a warrior, for crying out loud.
	Oh, he texted me afterwards, like an hour later as I was getting in my car saying, good for you doing that.
	Okay, thanks for the backup, Mark.
	Okay, that is the most... where did they get this crap?
	Because the president said, Democrats who are Jewish are being disloyal voting for the Democrat Party because they hate Israel and America.
	And then Jason says, uh, uh, he called American Jews disloyal.
	It's so scuzzy.
	Come on.
	Oh my God.
	I swear, if I had a dollar for every lie that was spun about something Trump said... Oh my gosh, we'd be creases.
	We'd be rolling in it.
	We would be rolling in dough.
	Because, you know, my mom would come up with these every once in a while.
	Well, you know your guys.
	It's like... Can you think of a normal lefty we could have on that show that I can tell Chris to hire?
	A normal lefty.
	Who you could debate with, but wouldn't do in public.
	Oh, you know who would be fun, actually, in all seriousness, is Sheriff Villanueva.
	Oh, yes!
	Because he's a registered Democrat, but he's not whacked out.
	Yeah, but he'd have to move to D.C.
	Yeah, he would not do that.
	What's he doing now?
	He's doing a show at CRN with us.
	It's great.
	Congrats.
	How often?
	Every day.
	Just for an hour, but he's really, he's really good.
	And he's coming out of his shell and just, he's been great.
	He picked it right up.
	He loves radio.
	Oh, great.
	Great.
	Yeah, no, he's, he's good.
	And he's really taken on these woke issues as well.
	Like all of the, you know, he went to the Dodger protest.
	Wow.
	He's been, yeah, no, he's been really out there.
	All right, I'm going to show you that clip.
	We might talk a little bit of Hunter Biden and then I might squeeze in a question about some place called California.
	We've got a plan.
	We've always got a plan.
	Do we have a plan?
	Do we ever have a plan here, Eric?
	Uh, isn't that the whole point of radio is to just kind of wing it?
	Yeah.
	I always start thinking I have a plan and then it never, but it's always better when you have no plan.
	As they say, every plan lasts as long as first contact with the enemy.
	I just like to think of the Austin Powers line.
	I do!
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	Jennifer Horne, hardest working person in radio that I know.
	You used to do a radio show with like four people, right?
	Yes, I did.
	Yes.
	Including little Benji Ben Shapiro.
	Ben Shapiro, Alicia Krauss, Brian Whitman, and myself, yes.
	All in one room around a very small table.
	Did it ever get really spicy?
	Yeah, well, you know, OK, so it was always spicy.
	Brian was our liberal.
	But Ben and I would fight in the early days about President Trump because he was a never Trumper.
	And I was.
	He still is a never Trumper.
	OK.
	I think so.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, I was a Trump person.
	I was all into Scott Walker until the escalator ride.
	And the escalator ride happened.
	And from the moment that started, it's like a light switch.
	And I was a Trump girl.
	I don't know if it was as spicy as what you did with Benji, but here's what happened last night on Newsmax.
	I was hosting my buddy Chris Plant's show, The Right Squad, and we have a token liberal there as well, you know, just to make it a little bit more interesting.
	Jason Nichols.
	He just went there and I wasn't going to let him slime and smear and calumny my former boss.
	He accused the president of calling Jewish Americans unloyal.
	Let's just play the cut.
	I'll say this.
	There are times where Donald Trump has called people disloyal and I really didn't like it.
	When he called American Jews disloyal, I thought it was anti-Semitic.
	Excuse me, stop it.
	With Ron DeSantis, he had a point.
	With Ron DeSantis, he had a point.
	Stop, Jason.
	You don't get to say that.
	A man whose grandchildren are Jewish.
	You don't get to say that on the show.
	Oh, I just did.
	No, it's a lie.
	I just did.
	Don't do that.
	His children are Jewish.
	His daughter converted.
	Okay, I didn't say anything.
	He didn't say anything about unloyal Jewish people.
	That's what he said.
	You're not going to say that.
	Okay.
	No.
	Look it up.
	Stick on the topic.
	Look it up.
	Stick on the topic.
	Look it up.
	Give me your take as a communications professional on that little clip.
	First of all, I love you so much.
	Second of all, what I cannot stand is that people come on and they spin these crazy things that they say President Trump has said and the left media goes, oh yeah, he said all these horrific things and they're based in nothing.
	So I applaud you.
	for stopping it where it needed to be stopped to correct the record.
	Because what happens is they just repeat these lies that they say President Trump said
	and he's never said anything.
	But the repetition almost makes it fact in people's minds so that even people on our side of the aisle, Seb, start to
	believe, well, President Trump says all these terrible things.
	No, the leftist media says these crazy things and we believe them.
	So I'm so happy that you stopped.
	Stopped it in its tracks because we need to make sure that we're correcting the record on this stuff because saying that American Jews are disloyal, that's disgusting.
	Nobody's going to support that and President Trump never said it in that context.
	But let's just break it down because it's an amazing case study in how they do this on the left.
	President Trump said the following.
	Jewish Democrats are disloyal for voting for a Democrat party that hates Israel and hates America.
	He didn't say Jewish Americans.
	He said if you're a Democrat, you're disloyal to America.
	And Israel if you vote for the Democrat party that hates both of those nations.
	And then they do this little sleight of hand.
	Oh!
	He said Jewish Americans are disloyal!
	When he said the opposite!
	He said the opposite!
	And also again...
	He's the guy who moved the embassy to Jerusalem, recognized Jerusalem, whose grandchildren are Jewish, whose daughter converted to Judaism.
	So it's a classic study of the underhanded tactics that they use every single day.
	And just like Himmler, just like Goebbels, they believe if you repeat it often enough, Jennifer, then people will think it's true.
	Well, and this is exactly going back to that point.
	And shame on us on the right for not being better stewards of the truth.
	Because I can't tell you, when I go out to speaking engagements or talk to my listeners that I'm so blessed to be with every single morning, a lot of them, when they have concerns about President Trump, it's not ever About what he did when he was president.
	It's not not about his policies.
	It's always, well, he says mean things.
	He says this.
	It's because in media on the right, we don't do enough of what you just did, which is correcting the record.
	We let the repetition happen.
	And then all of a sudden, people believe fake things.
	Right.
	And so then they think that President Trump is saying these crazy things.
	When in context, what the president said was absolutely what a large chunk of people believe.
	Yeah.
	So we have to do a better job stopping it.
	This is the party of AOC, of Rashida Tlaib, of the BDS movement, of people saying what?
	Of Ilhan Omar saying, it's all about the Benjamins.
	This is the Democrat party.
	They hate Israel.
	They're anti-Semitic.
	That's exactly right.
	And I'll tell you another little story to just bounce on the end of this.
	How many of those heads are exploding today when that story came out that Donald Trump is the only one who has no link to owning slaves in this country?
	All right, we didn't even cover that.
	We've got two minutes left.
	This is a great, great story.
	When I saw it, I thought it was the Babylon Bee.
	Tell of all of our list is this incredible story.
	It is so funny.
	As someone whose mom grew up in the South, I just want to put places on her car windshield.
	But of all the presidents in history, the only one who has a family that wasn't linked to slavery in this country is Donald Trump.
	Now, do you think that makes people absolutely nuts?
	Because I do.
	But don't forget Kamala.
	Don't forget Kamala's great granddad.
	Own slaves!
	Everybody, everybody in the line has had a link to slavery except for Donald Trump and the story came out and of course you would think that maybe that might make it to the mainstream news media but no way you can only find it like on Breitbart and conservative media outlets.
	Absolutely superb.
	And we didn't even talk about California.
	We might have to bump her up to two times a week.
	But no, she works too hard for that.
	And I think she might be launching a new podcast soon with somebody I know.
	In the meantime, we love you too.
	Jennifer Horne, co-host of the Morning Arts with Jen and Grant.
	Follow her at Jennifer Horne right now.
	CRNtalk.com as well.
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	So what happened after?
	That's what I want to know.
	Nothing.
	We rolled into the next segment.
	And did you ever talk to the guy again?
	To him?
	No, I refused to say goodnight to him.
	Good.
	So he just stood up and left.
	Well, at the end of the show, I just went off, wiped off my makeup.
	Mark Morgan said nothing, and then texted me 10 minutes later.
	And that was it.
	I love it.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Mark Morgan, I love.
	I just can't believe they were both looking down.
	Dude, if you're six foot two marine who agrees with me, then jump in the trench.
	And just, yeah, at least shake your head and make some eye contact.
	Oh my God, that was too good.
	Well, have fun.
	Are you going to do it again tonight?
	No, I did it yesterday and the day before.
	They wanted me all week and I've got a fundraiser for a candidate tomorrow.
	I've got a dinner with my doctor tonight.
	So I said two days is all you get.
	And they don't pay you anything.
	This is the thing.
	They pay me nothing.
	Yeah, so it's a freebie.
	Zip.
	Yeah, just do the two days.
	And I hear you're a single guy this week.
	I am!
	Until Thursday, Katie and Julia were on Nantucket.
	They were having fun.
	They were having a crazy storm, though.
	When I was talking to her yesterday, it was all breaking up the phone line and everything.
	So they're having some kind of gnarly storm.
	They had mice drama.
	Dead mice drama.
	Oh no.
	It's like you do realize there's a difference between men and women just when it comes to mice.
	Oh yeah.
	Can we like be clear that I'm getting desperate phone calls about dead mice.
	It's like it's a mouse.
	Okay, and it's dead.
	See, that's better to me than a live mouse.
	Well, actually, it was first, it had its head trapped between the fireplace and the wall and was squealing, and then they found it dead the next morning.
	But she had to get in bed, at 25, she had to get in bed with my wife because of a dead mouse?
	That's hysterical.
	Remember that for the wedding.
	Just always remember that for the wedding.
	There's a difference between men and women.
	There are, that's for sure.
	All right, have a good one.
	Happy Fourth, you guys.
	It was.
	Okay, bye Why communist why conservatives don't do what you did last
	night?
	You You
	You You
	You .
	Yep.
	Where are you from?
	No!
	Where are you from?
	How are you involved?
	How are you involved?
	How are you involved with your son?
	Alright, we've got to get this audio...
	Jeff, I'm sending it to you.
	I know it's noisy but it's really important.
	Nope.
	I'm sorry.
	You're not.
	I'm sorry.
	You're not.
	you You're listening to America First with Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump.
	That was super fun.
	I don't think we talked about California, did we, Eric?
	Not one whit.
	Maybe we could use a little break from California every now and then.
	What?
	I thought you were from California?
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	We'll share that with you as soon as it's ready, it's literally just happened.
	Okay, here's the message, I've got it in front of me, this is the WhatsApp message Hunter Biden sent to one of these crooked colleagues.
	I'm tired of this, Kevin.
	I can make $5 million in salary from any law firm in America.
	If you think it's about money, it's not.
	The Bidens... This is Hunter Biden.
	The Bidens are the best at doing exactly what the chairman wants from this partnership.
	Please, let's not quibble over peanuts.
	Hmm, millions of dollars are peanuts to Hunter Biden.
	And the Bidens, not me, not Hunter Biden, the Bidens, the family, the cartel, are the best at doing exactly what the chairman wants.
	Okay, wow, that's impressive.
	That only took us a couple of minutes.
	We have the audio.
	Now I'll reiterate it afterwards because it is so noisy.
	A journalist asks Biden about whether he was in the room like Hunter wrote in the previous text message during the shakedown.
	Listen to his response.
	Play cut.
	President Biden, how involved were you in your son's Chinese shakedown text message?
	Were you sitting there?
	Were you involved?
	Were you involved?
	No!
	Could this be the beginning of the end?
	The question asked by the journalist as the rotors are turning on Marine One.
	How involved were you in your son's Chinese shakedown text message?
	Were you sitting there like he said?
	Were you involved?
	And he smiles and he says no I wasn't and then he gets really angry and he says NO!
	Gosh, God willing, something good is going to happen.
	All right, let's go to your calls.
	Line one, Steve, Arizona.
	Hello, Sebastian.
	It's Steve, the Budapest mug guy.
	Oh, yes, the beautiful mug from the embassy.
	It is in my green room as we speak.
	Indeed.
	I'm glad you're getting good use out of it.
	Well, as you know, I'm both Jewish and Israeli.
	During the four years that Trump was in office, we conservative Jews, or Jews on the right is a better way of saying it, we used to tell a very cynical joke.
	What's the difference between a typical American Jew and Donald Trump?
	Donald Trump has Jewish grandchildren.
	Oh my gosh, Steve, that is very good.
	That is very good.
	So help me explain this, because I've got a lot of Orthodox Jewish friends, and the figures are out there that more than 90-92% of Orthodox, you know, traditional Jews in America voted for President Trump.
	Why, to go to the clip we played of, you know, Jason Nichols, you know, smearing the president, why do secular or non-Orthodox Jewish Americans vote for the Democrat Party that hates Israel?
	I have a ready-made answer for you, and the answer is courtesy both Michael Medved and Dennis Prager.
	Yes.
	And that is, when the Jews came to America, things were so good that they exchanged their Judaism for liberalism, secularism, humanitarianism.
	So they want to fit in with the rest of the atheists and the secular leftists.
	That's exactly it.
	All right, stay on the line, Steve.
	We're out of time, but I want to chat with you in the break.
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	now 800-500-8384 reliefactor.com that's 800-500-8384 reliefactor.com ...and the wanting to fit in but when you see after a few
	decades that the Democrat Party is actually anti-Israel celebrates the likes of Rashida
	Tlaib and Ilhan Omar why doesn't that allow the liberal secular Jews to say we're
	not going to support the Democrats?
	There is a theory, and I would love to have it proven, And the theory is that Jews are secretly guilty about being successful and fighting back.
	And up until 1967, the Six-Day War, American Jews, even the liberal ones, were staunchly pro-Israel.
	But when Israel struck back and won astounding military victories, That's when they started to feel guilt.
	Like, this isn't really us.
	But why?
	Because Israel defeated the Arabs?
	You know, I'm going to be honest with you, Seb.
	A much better person to answer that question is Dennis.
	Yeah.
	No, I'll ask Dennis.
	I'll ask Dennis.
	No, but I really appreciate you taking the time.
	You have my books, right?
	Actually, I don't.
	Stay on the line.
	We'll get you all three of them.
	All right?
	Stay on the line and we'll have them signed and sent to you.
	All right?
	Sebastian, real quickly, may I make a suggestion for bumper music for Second Amendment?
	Yeah, quickly.
	We've got 30 seconds.
	Go ahead.
	Tommy Gun by The Clash.
	Tommy Gun by The Clash.
	All right.
	I'll check it out.
	Thank you, buddy.
	Stay on the line.
	Thank you, Seb.
	Bye, Ben.
	Bye.
	Listen to him.
	He's with us.
	What is Kirstie Noem doing these stupid ads for, dressed up as a plumber and then a dental technician?
	Have you seen these, Jeff?
	Yeah, I actually don't think they're that bad.
	I think the ads are stupid, but I know what they're doing.
	Well, I know what they're doing, but she's the flipping governor.
	I know.
	She's trying to just advertise the fact that you don't have to pay state income tax to a certain rate and all this stuff.
	But pretending to be a dental hygienist?
	Well, yes, because the economy's just so great, she's got to fill in there.
	That's what she's trying to portray.
	I thought it was like a double.
	I thought it was somebody pretending to be her.
	Then I realized yesterday, no, that's actually the governor.
	Pathetic.
	I don't like it.
	Alright, what I do love is our callers.
	Guys, I mean, every day it's a knockout, but just the intelligence, just the wit and the ability of our callers to just cut to the heart of the issue.
	I love you guys all.
	You are amazing.
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	Okay, what else did I want to do today?
	I've read the I've read out the text message.
	We've got Greg Gutfeld's great cut.
	How much time have we got?
	We've got some time.
	Let's play Greg who has a superb take on the perverted Pride Month participants.
	But there's been blowback.
	And who are the Libs blaming?
	They're not mad at the guys running around naked in front of kids.
	They're mad at us for noticing the guys running around naked in front of kids.
	George Takai, aka Sulu and nothing else, said, Even if there were no naked guys on bikes this year, the right would find pictures or generate them and push the same agenda anyway.
	So you got that?
	If those guys weren't naked in front of kids, you'd just make up the story that they were anyway.
	So who cares if it's actually real?
	Well, that's quite a defense.
	Officer, we're going to preempt your false accusation by actually committing the crime you accuse us of.
	Sorry, Sulu.
	We're not the side that has to make up hoaxes all the time.
	That's your side.
	What a great logic.
	Oh, by the way, Sulu, George Takai, known as Sulu and nothing else.
	This is their defense.
	It's like the story, what is this?
	Was it CBS, Eric?
	Who did the story that we're queer, we're here and we're coming for your kids is a chant that's been used by homosexuals for decades.
	Who wrote that up?
	That's NBC.
	So what does that mean?
	If they're trying to say, well, they've been using it for decades, it means they've been grooming kids for decades.
	And I love that their argument is to basically say, oh, grooming is OK, because they've always been saying that they're doing it.
	Yeah, it's fine.
	It's not a problem.
	They're so desperate.
	Why?
	Because they are losing.
	All right, let's go to line two, Rick, Phoenix, Arizona.
	Hi, Seb.
	Thanks for taking my call.
	Sure.
	Listen, following up on your and Jennifer's conversation on getting the truth out, I'd like to make a suggestion that whenever the accusations and the attacks against Trump are being reported or discussed, that the host play the audio of Rachel Maddow's interview with Chuck Schumer Where he pulls back the curtain and says, uh, if you attack the intelligence agency... Oh yeah, we've used that many, many times, Rick.
	Many, many times.
	If you come after the intelligence community, they've got seven ways from Sunday.
	Used it a lot.
	It is one of the most chilling things any politician in an ostensibly free nation has ever said.
	I completely agree.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	God bless you.
	Thank you.
	Let's go to Illinois.
	Joe, line three.
	Dr. G, yeah.
	The Biden ship is sinking.
	Why would you ever have to come to Chicago to try to prop up your poll ratings?
	And what's up with the hypersonic missiles in Cuba that he allowed?
	Are we going to have to put up Patriot missile batteries in Miami and D.C.
	now?
	Well, only if you care about America.
	I think he's owned by the Chinese, myself.
	Oh come on, seriously, just one thing, one Avenger, you take your son to Beijing on Air Force Two when you're Vice President, Hunter Biden tells the Secret Service not to escort him in China, to not follow him and protect him so he can get up with his shady business dealings, and comes back home and gets a 1.4 billion Billion dollar deal from the National Bank of Communist China.
	Of course he's in the pocket.
	Of course he is.
	God bless you, Joe.
	Let's go to Mike Detroit.
	Oh yeah, Dr. Bill.
	You know, one thing... Are you on a speakerphone?
	Oh yeah, I'm sorry.
	Wait a minute.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Rule number one.
	Even if you're waiting, The second I say, Hi Joe, or Hi Jim, please switch off the speakerphone.
	Okay.
	I promised at the top of the show, this is incredible.
	This is from Georgetown University.
	This is actually the statement.
	One, two, three, four.
	Oh my gosh.
	Five pages.
	Five pages for an announcement for a new hire.
	You know who it is?
	Yeah.
	It's that diminutive little fascist.
	Anthony Fauci!
	I guess making $416,000 a year for decades wasn't enough.
	Now, after his retirement, he will serve.
	as the Distinguished University Professor in the School of Medicine's Department of Medicine.
	Why does the School of Medicine have a Department of Medicine?
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	I'm a little bit confused.
	And the weirdest thing about the statement is it kind of doesn't talk about one thing.
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	What thing do you think it doesn't talk about?
	It begins with C, it rhymes with OVID, and ends with the word 19.
	Really weird, isn't it?
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	All right, we gotta squeeze it in before the one-on-one.
	Brave man, IRS whistleblower Gary Shapley... Well, he's got the receipts on Hunter.
	Cut to...
	If this was any other person, they likely would have already served their sentence.
	Gary Shapley was a lead IRS supervisory agent in Operation Sportsman, the investigation into Hunter Biden.
	Shapley said he uncovered conduct that warranted more serious charges.
	There were personal expenses that were taken as business expenses.
	Prostitutes, sex club memberships.
	Hotel rooms for purported drug dealers.
	How much did Hunter Biden owe in taxes?
	So from 2014 to 2019, it was $2.2 million.
	The back taxes were paid off.
	And last week, the Trump-appointed U.S.
	attorney in Delaware, David Weiss, reached an agreement with Hunter Biden.
	The president's son would admit to a firearm charge and plead guilty for his failure to pay taxes.
	If a judge signs off, the deal means no jail time.
	Testimony we have just released details a lack of U.S.
	Attorney independence.
	And Shapley told lawmakers that U.S.
	Attorney Weiss was blocked from bringing stronger charges.
	But U.S.
	Attorney General Merrick Garland said last week that Weiss was not.
	I'm saying he was given complete authority to make all decisions on his own.
	I documented exactly what happened and it doesn't seem to match what the Attorney General or the U.S.
	Attorney are saying today.
	Shapley provided lawmakers this contemporaneous email he wrote after an October meeting last year.
	Shapley says Weiss told him the opposite, that Weiss is not the deciding person on whether charges are filed.
	It was just shocking to me.
	Shapley, who is still working for the IRS, told us that even before President Biden took office, he was directed to avoid leads involving Hunter's father.
	There are certain Investigative steps we weren't allowed to take that could have led us to President Biden.
	And you wanted to take them.
	We needed to take them.
	And you weren't allowed to take them.
	That's correct.
	So the youth attorney, who's supposed to make the decision as to whether to charge onto Biden, didn't have the capacity to do so.
	Because the head of the DOJ was protecting the President's son.
	Watergate?
	Really?
	I mean, that's nothing.
	That's child's play.
	The Department of Justice politically protecting the President's family from facing justice in America?
	We've only just begun, dear friends.
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	I can't believe we're in the month, we're in the year here at the White House and I'm not a conservative and you can't
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	What did you say, Eric?
	That's so pathetic.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, sure, it's just a...
	Is that all of it or are you gonna have to run it down?
	Off the run down.
	Okay.
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	And does it have to be 30?
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	First one-on-one Former member of the Trump administration, a man who's going to help us untangle the, what is it Churchill called it, an enigma wrapped in a mystery that is Russia today.
	The last three days, four days in geopolitical news.
	A man who made sure that our US troops are ready to go to war and then served our veterans.
	A man who's worn the cloth of the Republic.
	Former Secretary for Veterans Affairs, Robert Wilkie.
	Welcome in studio.
	Good to see you.
	We have so much to cover.
	There's nothing happening.
	No, boring!
	Let's talk about our hobbies.
	Let's talk about our hobbies, which happen to be national security.
	That's exactly right.
	Let's talk about that.
	We'll talk about this amazing article.
	It's up on the America First Policy Institute's website.
	It's about a topic close to my heart, and that is, of course, Fort Bragg.
	It is no more signs on Bragg Boulevard.
	But first, let's talk about the topics of the day.
	Let's just do a little bit of a history lesson.
	We are supposed to believe that a ragtag group of mercenaries numbering 25,000 at their peak were supposed to be able to achieve something at the weekend that not even Hitler or Napoleon achieved, which is to take Moscow.
	Will you give us your analysis on the Wagner group, Prigozhin, the news yesterday of Putin pardoning everybody involved in the coup?
	As I've always said on this show, all initial reports from the battlefield are false.
	Not a pinch of salt, a bucket of salt is required.
	What are the things that we should understand already?
	Well, I was in the bucket of salt category and then I looked back at Russian history and I said, well, let's use a pinch of salt here.
	There are many things that a dictator can do.
	He can be a degenerate.
	He can be an economic illiterate.
	He can be a murderer.
	But a dictator who passes himself off as the protector of holy Russia can't afford to be humiliated in front of his own people.
	And whether this was a deal or not, the facade has been broken in the sense that you have someone who had access to all of the Unfiltered social media outlets saying that the invasion was a fraud, that the Ukrainians and NATO are no threat, and our boys are being massacred.
	That is a message.
	And the other thing that the media doesn't understand and has not been reporting on, is that the powers that be in Russia, such as they are, are already starting to line up.
	And what I mean by that is Gazprom is creating its own private army, Aeroflot.
	The national airline.
	Right.
	The five or ten largest companies in Russia are building armies a la Pragosha.
	Which means they see the cracks.
	And look at Russian history, and you know this actually better than I do.
	One assault usually means that there will be a cascading effect.
	Yeltsin didn't survive.
	Gorbachev did not survive.
	Khrushchev did not survive.
	Kerensky didn't survive.
	I sort of look at this as 1905 when Father Peter went out to the streets of, I think that was his name, of St.
	Petersburg to ask the Tsar for the blessings for the poor and was cut down by Cossacks even though he was an okrana, a secret police.
	Secret police, right.
	Operative, which lends itself to your analysis.
	Russian history is replete with these characters.
	Yeah, nothing is as it seems on the surface.
	Right.
	But I do think that Putin has lost his patina of invincibility, his patina of being the great genius, the strategic genius.
	And we just saw today, you and I were just talking about it, that the Ukrainians have now begun to retake Yes, please.
	You showed with me from the British Daily Telegraph.
	Shocking story.
	Explain, because it's not regarding territory captured in the last year.
	What have the Ukrainians achieved?
	They are moving on Donetsk, which was taken by Putin in 2014 under the eyes of Obama-Biden.
	2014.
	The Ukrainians, let's be clear here, have recaptured territory taken by Putin Eight years ago.
	And they are pouring into the gap left by Wagner.
	Let me just mention something about Wagner that I think has missed most analysts.
	The hardcore Wagner criminals are really in Africa, Syria, and Venezuela.
	These are the guys who were Russian special forces, Kremlin guards.
	They're out raping and rampaging, particularly through Africa.
	Taking over gold mines, copper mines, silver mines.
	What you had in Ukraine with Wagner were the convicts.
	And if anybody thought that this was some kind of freedom march, let me tell you how Prigozhin executes those who fall out of favor with him or those who desert.
	They don't line them up in front of a wall and shoot them.
	They have teams of men with sledgehammers.
	And that's how they dispose of the malcontents.
	This guy is a vicious gangster, amongst vicious gangsters.
	But I do think that the facade is beginning to crack.
	And I want to say something that Senator Kennedy said today, and all credit to him because we hear too many voices, particularly in the Republican Party, about almost echoing George McGovern in 72, come home America.
	Kennedy said now's the time to give them everything they need to finish off the Russian army.
	And I think you see the morale continuing to crumble.
	By the way, and there's no doubt that Wagner, even in its depleted state with its convicts, we know because the British have confirmed it.
	So the Poles, they shot down one of Russian Army's two command and control aircraft.
	They shot down more Russian aircraft in one day than the Russians have lost any day in the war.
	And then what about this idea, or this very suspicious part of the whole last few days, that not only Prigozhin, but his mercenaries are being given amnesty or asylum in Byelorussia.
	Byelorussia being a satrapy of Moscow, the closest nation to Moscow of the former Soviet Union.
	And not only that, if you look at the map, and people don't look at maps anymore, geographies.
	It's dead.
	The battle for Ukraine has been mostly in the south.
	Mariupol trying to landlock the nation.
	Kiev has survived so far.
	But if you look at where Belorussia is, Belorussia is to the north of Ukraine.
	The border is very close to Kiev.
	So how about this idea?
	That this is maskirovka, it's a distraction, to put all of the forces of Wagner north of Ukraine, so that after everybody's pardoned, and after everybody's had a nice bit of R&R, rest and recuperation, resupply lines through Byelorussia, they attack from the north.
	What do you think of that?
	Well, let me tell you why I think there is a lot of truth in what you say.
	And I think this is lost on Millie and the rest of the political generals.
	You mean the general of the Joint Chiefs who said Kiev would fall in 72 hours?
	Yes, that one.
	Who dresses like a North Korean corporal with all of the medals.
	With all the shrapnel on his chest, as we say in the British army.
	So what have the Ukrainians been doing in the best British tradition?
	They have been conducting shaping operations along the front.
	They have been operating with actual battalions of Russian deserters.
	Russians who want no part of Putin.
	They've been attacking into Belarus, drawing more and more Russian fighters to the north.
	Because on any given day, the road is open to Minsk.
	And I think what you say has a great deal of plausibility because they're throwing too many of their soldiers in, which then allows for areas like Donetsk and Crimea to become threatened, which we are seeing today as they advance on Donetsk.
	The Ukrainians have been very good at this, and you talk about that just to the incompetence of the American media, Well, we'll talk about that and also the people who are talking about nuclear war is upon us.
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	Secretary Wilkie, you know my background.
	I served for three years in the British Territorial Army in a military intelligence unit.
	Then I came to the United States.
	And I worked teaching our military.
	Here's a photograph of me with a few devil dogs, just a handful of them, at Quantico.
	Oh, sorry, this is the Air Force, just a handful of Air Force officers.
	Then we had Quantico, very smart-looking Marines.
	This is the senior enlisted course.
	And then Fort Bragg, where I still maintain a relationship with the school that makes Green Berets, that is the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare School and Center, where I'm honored to still be an instructor.
	And then the last thing is a sign, a historic sign from that selfsame base you know so well, established in 1918 as the U.S.
	Field Artillery Training Center.
	Name for North Carolina native Braxton Bragg, Lieutenant Colonel.
	You have been giving a speech across the nation, recently in North Carolina.
	It's available at the America First Policy Institute's website.
	Will you talk to us about what you have written here, No More Signs on Bragg Boulevard and why this is important?
	So there's two parts to the speech.
	The first part is the no more signs on Bragg Boulevard.
	It has to do with something that hit me in my youth.
	When the hostages were taken, my father was the G-3, the operator.
	H-79, the Iranian hostages.
	Right, of 18th Airborne Corps, which at that time was just the 82nd Airborne and the 101st Airborne.
	Colonel who lived across the street, Colonel Jerry Holland, happened to be in Iran on November 4th.
	And he was taken.
	Now this is toward the end of the Carter presidency.
	The Cubans are rampaging through Africa.
	The Soviets are about to invade Afghanistan.
	About to invade.
	Christmas.
	Christmas Day.
	And we have Mr. Peanut in the White House.
	God bless him in his current condition.
	A submariner!
	A nice man.
	A nice man.
	And we were impotent.
	And a sign went up on Bragg Boulevard, right outside the entrance to Fort Bragg, where at that time they had the statue of Iron Mike, who's the eternal airborne soldier with his Thompson submachine gun at the bulge.
	Waiting.
	He's the guy.
	It represents the fellow who's standing there with that Thompson submachine gun.
	The Germans are coming, and the officer says, what the hell are you doing?
	And the sergeant says, I'm the 82nd Airborne, and this is as far as the bastards are going.
	Wow.
	That kind of strength, that fortitude, the sense of purpose.
	A sign went up, said, Iran, let our people go.
	And I had to pass that every day going to school.
	And even then I was aware because of where I grew up and people I was growing up around.
	That's what we had come to under Mr. Carter.
	We were mendicants begging the theocratic fanatics to let our soldiers in.
	How did that affect?
	I mean, you're going to school, but if you're in uniform, if you're serving there, and you see this sign, let our hostages go, and we're a superpower?
	A superpower, in the case of the All-American Division, the most decorated of all combat units.
	In both the Army and the Marine Corps.
	Men who had seen Saigon fall and could not believe that we were facing another situation in just four years time.
	And what I say about No More Bragg Boulevard signs is that we're on a pathway to that.
	We have the smallest defense budget since 1946.
	And the reason that was small is that we demobilized almost 15 million people.
	And Truman said, I've got to return to a peacetime social welfare state.
	Our military is now being divided into racial, sexual, and ethnic categories.
	We have the most politicized senior officer corps in the history of this country.
	I mean, we've gone, Dr. Gorka, from George C. Marshall saying, I live only to serve the Republic To the current chairman of the Joint Chiefs reading Black Lives Matter talking points in front of a congressional committee.
	Saying critical race theory.
	Actually saying, I don't know what it is, but I'm glad it's being taught at West Point.
	Right.
	And then they come back and say, well, we're not doing those things.
	So let me give you a couple of examples.
	Yeah.
	And I'll just use the military accounts.
	At West Point, you can now get, at minimum, a minor in diversity studies.
	You can replace military and American history with sex and civilizations, racial inequality through the ages.
	Those are the stories.
	At the Air Force Academy, on your first day, you were watching a film produced by Black Lives Matter.
	The Naval Academy superintendent, who seems to think that we are living in George Wallace's Alabama of 1960 and not the America of 2023, requires all of them to carry with them a racist checklist where they have to check off how they are fighting, and I'll quote him, ableism, whatever that means, sexism and racism in our ranks.
	Not how we're fighting our enemies.
	That's exactly right.
	My point in the speech is, why would you want to defend a country where the leaders are so openly hostile to the very meaning of the nation?
	And I saw that play out again at Fort Bragg, the Secretary of the Army who also says there's no wokeness.
	She visited Bragg before they changed the name, and you would expect her to comment on the readiness of Special Operations Command, the JFK School.
	By the way, we're talking about politically correct name changes.
	That was the first one.
	Under Jimmy Carter, he changed the name, which is John F. Kennedy School for Special Warfare, to the John F. Kennedy School for Military Assistance because it was less heroic.
	And as soon as Caspar Weinberger got in as SecDef for Reagan, he switched it back.
	So she gets down there and instead of commenting on the readiness and She issues a statement saying that she's at Fort Bragg and she is honored that Fort Bragg is leading the world in fighting climate change.
	Now that's good for General of the Army Greta Thunberg.
	Yeah.
	It's good for a military that doesn't want to fight wars and wants to, I don't know... Social justice warriors.
	Yes, social justice warriors who want to celebrate the cult that is transgenderism.
	I'm going to ask Our special guest next.
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	Yeah.
	How did this, what is the genesis?
	So I became a DOD employee, a Defense Department employee, as a foreigner, which is why America is amazing.
	I was a green card holder.
	2008, we moved here from Europe.
	I became a professor, I was teaching Irregular Warfare and Counterterrorism at Fort McNair, the oldest base in America.
	The one where, and I actually have a photograph of it in one of the buildings, where the Lincoln assassin conspirators were hanged.
	And it's hanged, by the way, it's not hung.
	Were hanged.
	That's how old this base is.
	And I was teaching 05s, 06s, and then some one-stars.
	And even back then in 2008, there's something called Capstone.
	This is the mandatory course you go through if you're becoming a general in America.
	And I would see these politically flavored statements being made of people Wanting to please politicians and civil servants as opposed to being military professionals.
	You have such an experience serving in two of our armed services, then at the highest levels in the Pentagon and then at the VA administration.
	Can you identify, is there a moment in time where it began and who was the key engineer of all this?
	Well, let me talk about something that came from someone you admired very much.
	Roger Scruton, the great British philosopher, really the brain behind Mrs. Thatcher.
	Scruton identified this disease that we see in the military as the culture of repudiation.
	The repudiation of tradition, of truth, of those things that make America unique, the West unique.
	He was talking about the U.S.
	and Great Britain.
	And that this has infected all levels of society.
	So the military is part of this move.
	On a practical level, I think it really began unknowingly in the Reagan administration.
	Really?
	But I'll tell you how it did it.
	After the failure in Grenada, and it was a failure in that you spent tens of thousands of troops to get a Cuban corporal's guard.
	We killed more of our own people than we killed Cubans.
	They needed to reform the way officers were developed.
	And it was called the Goldwater-Nichols Act.
	Correct.
	And it postured that once you hit kernel 06, instead of being at Fort Bragg or Fort Bragg, or you were familiar with, my father was familiar with, that you could have an entire career on one street.
	Yeah.
	Just change the beret color.
	Right.
	It said you had to spend...
	You had to do joint service in other joint billets.
	In the Pentagon, in Washington.
	Pouring martinis at the White House.
	That began the erosion, I think, of the apolitical officer core.
	Because you were expected to become a political animal in DC.
	Yes.
	And, look, Eisenhower served in DC.
	not long.
	Marshall did.
	All of them did.
	But that was that was a tertiary thing in their careers.
	And it wasn't.
	In fact, it was seen as not a good thing in your career.
	You want to be with troops.
	Right.
	And then under Clinton, we began to see this culture of repudiation infect all levels of government.
	I'm going to have a question.
	This is fascinating.
	I never thought that we'd bring up Roger Scruton in this discussion on politicized military, but it makes me think of something I saw recently in a movie theater.
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	I hadn't even connected it to what's – I was looking at it far more as a political
	thing, but I think your quoting of scrutiny is absolutely on target, that the politicization
	of the flag officer corps is a function of repudiation of everything we hold to be dear.
	And one of the things...
	that struck me.
	So, I don't know if you've seen it.
	Have you seen the new Top Gun movie?
	No, I have not.
	So, I highly recommend it because it's not a political film.
	It has all hue of American in it.
	You know, there's a master sergeant who's black, there's a Hispanic fighter pilot who's female, but it's irrelevant to the story what the color of their skin is.
	By the way, you've just hit on the key.
	I'm sorry.
	Let me just say... It shouldn't be complicated.
	It is not complicated.
	America's military is the great leveler in society.
	If you perform, you're accepted.
	Right.
	Just like professionals.
	The only thing that matters is performance.
	Absolutely.
	Combat effectiveness.
	Absolutely.
	And you were the man responsible for that, so I'm going to ask you that.
	So, I was away.
	I was with my best friend and his wife and my wife.
	We were in the country.
	And it came out, what was it, like six months ago?
	It was a holiday weekend.
	And I went with my buddy to watch this film.
	I love the original.
	It's cheesy, but it's fun.
	And I think, you know, the recruitment to the U.S.
	Navy, you know, sevenfold increased after the original one.
	And I'm halfway through the movie, and suddenly this bolt from the blue, I realize why this movie is so gripping and what it's really about. And it had
	nothing to do with politics. It wasn't about President Trump or repudiating Biden or Republican or
	Democrat. This film, and I strongly recommend all of our viewers and listeners, was about one thing.
	Excellence. Just excellence.
	There was no, you know, waving the flag, but of course underneath was the understanding, this is what we do in America.
	We are about excellence.
	The people who go to this school that is colloquially called Top Gun, the weapons school, they're there because they're excellent.
	And they're there because they are there to fight for our nation and protect that excellence.
	So, and of course it goes on to what make, you know, $3 billion in four weeks or something.
	This is what you're talking about, isn't it?
	This is what Scruton's talking about.
	That what we celebrate is excellence.
	And the military is the pinnacle of that.
	And now we're supposed to celebrate skin color and male admirals wearing skirts, Secretary.
	And equity gets people killed.
	Could you expand on that?
	Because equality is not equity.
	Let me give you an example.
	The Congress is now telling the Army you've gone too far in lax physical fitness standards.
	But basically there aren't any.
	There aren't any.
	So this defense authorization bill says you're going back to the Trump standards.
	Good.
	Now the Democrats would never say the Trump standards, but it's the Trump standards.
	Under this Secretary of the Army, if you command, say, a battalion in the 82nd, you cannot impose upon your troops a physical fitness standard higher than the lowest rung of the ladder that is the army.
	So an elite unit that is meant to jump out of planes with 90 pounds of equipment?
	On.
	Because in the name of equity, it might not be fair.
	That will get people killed.
	They want a fair fight.
	Fair fights get people killed.
	Well, war is always fair, isn't it?
	I mean, from the Trojan horse on, it's always been fair.
	That's right.
	And so you see this, you see the Secretary of the Air Force say, now we're going to include race in our promotion and assignment decisions.
	Stan McChrystal was fired because Rolling Stone reported that he made a joke About Joe Biden.
	Right.
	Obama fired him.
	Last time we talked, there was an Air Force Lieutenant General who got in front of a Pride event at the Pentagon and assaulted the laws of 26, 27 of the individual states as being racist, as being anti-LGBTQ.
	I'm not going to work to support a country like that.
	In the old days, first of all, that would have never entered anybody's mind.
	But if you had the temerity to do that, you would have been fired.
	I mean, MacArthur was fired for doing something like that.
	Truman, regardless of what you think about MacArthur, when a general says, I'm not bound by the words of a temporary occupant of the White House, a soldier's not bound by that.
	There are consequences for that.
	There are consequences.
	Particularly when the man from Missouri is in the White House.
	Let me ask you a tough question.
	We don't rehearse any of our interviews.
	We don't clear talking points with our guests.
	It's not what we do here on America First.
	This may be a question you don't want to answer.
	Before you became Secretary, you were the man in the five-sided playpen who was responsible for readiness.
	You are the chief official in the U.S.
	government responsible for our armed forces being able to close with and destroy our enemies.
	If we had to go to war today, in a real war, not low-intensity conflict, but a real war that involves,
	you know, carrier groups, landings by air, by sea, how worried would you be of our capacity?
	Very.
	And you don't need me to say it.
	I think your wife's former place of work did a pretty good job in saying that we're at best marginal.
	That's the Air Force's recent report.
	For 2022, for the Air Force and the Navy.
	Let me give you those quick statistics.
	The Chinese have 110 naval shipyards.
	We have 20 shipyards, four of which build naval vessels.
	The maintenance on our nuclear submarine fleet would occupy all of our shipyards for the next 30 years.
	We would go at China with aging F-15s and F-16s that came on the design board in the 1970s, came on in the 80s and 90s.
	We don't have enough fifth generation fighters.
	China now can outnumber us In the Pacific.
	And in the meantime, we are spending billions and billions of dollars on climate change, inculcating our troops about climate change and pronouns, destroying our physical fitness standards.
	And we are starting to look at the Pentagon like something that you would have found in Honduras, Nicaragua, and Guatemala.
	I'm going to ask you next and finally what we do about it.
	You're listening to former Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Newsmax's Senior National Security Strategist, Robert Wilkie.
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	I talk regularly to Mark Morgan, to Tom Homan, who are responsible for the national sovereignty of the nation, for securing the borders under President Trump.
	I asked them, how long would it take to fix things?
	They said, uh, overnight.
	We just reinstate all the requirements, all the regulations under the Trump administration, and we would decimate.
	Well, decimate's the wrong word.
	People don't understand.
	That only means 10%.
	We would 90%, 99% cut down the illegal traffic across the border.
	Let me ask you that question, God willing, if we get our former boss back into the White House, if we do what it takes, all Americans, to get him back there.
	Is it fixable?
	Is the military fixable?
	And how long would it take?
	We can get rid of all of the DEI, all of the nonsense.
	All the political stuff?
	All the political stuff overnight.
	The next Secretary of Defense, the next president, have to seriously consider changing out the general officer leadership.
	My suggestion, and tell me if you agree or not, is if any senior officer signed off on the diversity, equity, garbage, they have to be cashiered.
	Let me tell you what's happening.
	Being the political animals that many of these generals are, what I've noticed is that the pronouncements coming from senior leaders about Pride Month, for instance, they're being handled by senior enlisted.
	They're passing the buck.
	They're passing the buck.
	Wow.
	And they're trotting out the Sergeant Major or the Chief Petty Officer.
	I saw the Sergeant Major at Bragg who sounded off about two weeks ago.
	And now the Sergeant Major of the Army.
	Oh yes, of the Army.
	Sorry, correction, of the Army.
	That's despicable!
	That's what I'm seeing.
	That's despicable!
	But we have to reinstate our physical fitness standards.
	We have to clean up the military academies.
	But there's a bigger issue.
	There is a bigger issue.
	And it goes all the way back to kindergarten and elementary school.
	What I talked about, the culture of repudiation.
	Teaching our history.
	Teaching people that common courtesy is really the only, the be-all and end-all in all of our lives.
	But this nation is special.
	It is worth defending.
	You're not going to be able to recruit Americans to defend America if they don't love America.
	So it's Civics 101.
	That's right.
	But it can be done, Secretary?
	It can be done.
	It can be done.
	It must be done.
	It has to be done or we're done because this is not the sclerotic Soviet Union we're dealing with.
	As my good friend Constantine Kissin said, I think it was on the Bill Marshall of all places, he said, guess what?
	The Beijing regime, the regime in Moscow, the regime in Pyongyang, they're not teaching their kids to hate their countries.
	That's only happening here in America and the West, and it has to stop.
	The latest article, I'm going to post it on my social media from the Good Secretary, is No More Signs on Bragg Boulevard.
	It is a text of a speech he's giving across the country.
	Watch him on Newsmax.
	He will be on my show on Sunday.
	Be there.
	7pm, 10pm Eastern on Newsmax, the Gawker Reality Check.
	You've been listening to One-on-one, America first, with me Sebastian Gawker.

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