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June 26, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Why I don't believe the Russia coup fake news

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	Welcome, friends.
	That was, of course, the 45th President of the United States at a Lincoln Day dinner in Michigan.
	We had to beep something out there, although it was the sentence that got the greatest applause of the evening.
	But of course, he's absolutely right.
	He went a little bit off teleprompter and said, none of this!
	None of this would be happening if I weren't the leader of the opposition, the man who has the capacity to unseat the current incumbent in the White House.
	That's why they're raiding his home.
	That's why they arrested him recently.
	Yes, that's what an indictment means.
	They actually arrested the 45th President of the United States.
	We have so much for you from that event and much, much more.
	This is America First.
	And it's great to be back in the saddle.
	I had a crazy weekend.
	Thank you, Bob France, for filling in on Friday.
	You did a great job.
	I flew to the UK to see My friends, the Trigonometry Podcast hosts, and my best friend from school.
	I've known him since I was 10 years old, 42 years ago.
	We had a whirlwind tour of our old haunts, but it's great to be back.
	And of course I land in London after an eight-hour flight, switch on my phone, and Mr. G says, What's going on in Russia?
	And I said, I don't know.
	I've been watching movies.
	Why would I know what's going on in Russia?
	But now it's time to answer that question.
	Allegedly, there was an attempted coup.
	By somebody called Prigozhin, the head of the private military contracting firm Wagner.
	Can we stop calling it Wagner, okay?
	It's not a 19th century German composer.
	It's a bunch of bloodthirsty fix-it mercenaries for Putin, who are running around Africa, the Middle East, and Ukraine doing things that Well, let's just say the Geneva Conventions don't theoretically allow real soldiers to do.
	And on Friday, they decided, Putin's old news and he has to be replaced.
	Or did they?
	They moved their troops to the Moscow Oblast, to the county in which the capital is located, and then suddenly, After capturing, apparently, two towns and some regular military headquarters, decided to, well, call it a day, you know, 40 hours later.
	Coups off, guys!
	Back to the barracks.
	Or was it back to the barracks?
	Apparently now we're waiting.
	Putin is about to make another speech.
	He made a very short little statement at the weekend after the fighting stopped.
	He's about to make another one.
	But apparently Prigozhin and the rest of the Wagner mercenary band, all 25,000 of them, are going to camp out in Byelorussia where their dictator Lukashenko has given them asylum.
	Now, what's the problem with this story?
	We have so much more to discuss, and we have some incredible guests for you.
	We're going to have the head of Russia analysis for the Defense Intelligence Agency, Rebecca Koffler, who literally wrote the book, Putin's Playbook, with us momentarily.
	But first, let's look at the large muscle movements of this story, the big picture.
	The Russian Armed Forces officially have 1.2 million men in uniform.
	With another 2 million reservists.
	That's 3 million.
	3 million soldiers.
	As I mentioned, the Wagner Group is 25,000.
	25,000 who've been fighting for over a year in Ukraine and are pretty strung out!
	Especially after the Bahmut siege.
	Why did any of this happen?
	Why did 25,000 men think they could take on 3 million?
	Or did they?
	Well, first it goes back to the siege of Bahmut.
	Brygogin, the former restaurateur and chef... I'm not joking.
	If you don't believe me, look it up.
	The former, they say he was a hot dog stand owner.
	I don't know about that, but you can see photographs of him in a chef's outfit.
	He was a caterer.
	The head of this organization was quite vocal in the last few months about how the Russian military and the Ministry of Defense were not supporting his fighters against the Ukrainians in Bahmut.
	In fact, he reported on being fired upon that his forces had been attacked after they ran into a minefield that the Russian regular military had laid in Ukraine.
	And when they complained, they were assaulted by the Russian military.
	That was his excuse to say the Minister of Defence and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Gerasimov, have to be removed!
	And we're coming to Moscow to do it!
	Until they changed their minds and turned around.
	Now, why does this stink to high heaven?
	A couple of things.
	Number one, Putin needs this organization.
	He needs people who are not in the formal military train of command, who can skirt the Geneva Conventions, who can commit atrocities and are deniable.
	Secondly, How are you going to take on 3 million soldiers with 25,000, even if your guys are battle-hardened veterans?
	And then thirdly, in all his statements about Moscow and the corruption, why did Prigozhin never mention Putin?
	He once mentioned the old grandpa who's losing it, but then he denied that was Putin.
	If you're trying to execute a coup, wouldn't you start by saying the president is the problem?
	Fishy, right?
	And then perhaps most suspicious of all is where he's hiding.
	For those unaware with the region, Belarusia He's a real dictatorship.
	Lukashenko is a thug, a murderer, who's even more unsubtle than Putin.
	And he is Putin's man.
	The president of Byelorussia, he just lives to support Putin.
	If your bosom buddies with the man who they just tried to remove Why would you offer asylum to the person who tried to remove him?
	Rule number one of warfare.
	Every single report from the battlefield, every initial report, is wrong.
	Don't believe it.
	Yes, it's news.
	But you have to scratch beneath the surface and look a little bit deeper.
	Is this a cover for the forces of the Wagner Group to reassemble north of Kiev in Byelorussia and then re-invade Ukraine from the north?
	That's a very plausible scenario.
	Is it a way For Putin, is this fake coup a way for him to root out those who don't like him?
	Who said, yeah, we're behind you, Prigozhin, and then have them shot?
	Yeah, that's a likely scenario.
	But was this a real coup by an enemy of Putin's?
	No, I don't buy for a millisecond, and neither should you.
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	Yes?
	Which of the Mission Impossible movies did you watch on the plane?
	I watched Fallout, and it was good!
	They say that's the best one.
	It's a total unicorn movie series, and the first couple are not great.
	No, the first one's great!
	People didn't like the characterization of the John Voight character, because that was like an OG character.
	Well, yeah, that was wrong.
	But they say it gets better with each movie.
	I don't know which number the fallout was, but dude... That's the most recent one.
	It is?
	Yeah, the one with Henry Cavill, right?
	Yeah, that's the most recent one.
	The motorbike racing, the stunts... He's a loony!
	I think Tom Cruise is a loony, but it was... Oh, and when he's hanging under the helicopter... It was just... Oh, yes.
	Cavill was pretty good.
	Oh yeah, as a villain you wouldn't think.
	I think the next one comes out, is it this month or next month?
	Soon.
	I'm definitely going to go see that.
	So good.
	Because he was very wooden, or maybe the writing was bad, in Man from U.N.C.L.E.
	Right, well most people said that was just Cavill's attempt at auditioning for James Bond.
	The second attempt, at least.
	She's not responding to any of my texts, because I'm trying to get her Skype name.
	Yeah, she had to take her daughter to the doctor's today.
	Let me try... Her phone was off.
	I just tried to call it.
	But we all said she was having trouble with Skype.
	We can also connect with her through Quicklink.
	Oh, wow.
	Which John emailed her just now, right?
	Did you send the email?
	Are you sending the email now?
	Two minutes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Alright, so we did...
	Yeah, when she gets the email, she takes it through a couple steps and it should pop up.
	Alright.
	Is there an advantage to QuickLink over Skype?
	John?
	The Zoom?
	Trying to put a mic on.
	I think it's definitely better than Zoom, but he's putting his mic on real quick.
	90 seconds.
	We have a little bit more control over some of the settings on QuickLink.
	Oh, really?
	We can adjust it if we need to.
	Well, like cropping it or just... No, no, even just some of like the resolution settings and then just the speed settings too, so if like they are maybe on a connection that's not so good, we can dial our connection down a little bit.
	Interesting.
	So yeah.
	70.
	I don't think there's as much latency issues too as compared to when we connect with Comrex either.
	You mean delay?
	Delay, audio delay.
	I got a title in mind for that monologue and or Chris.
	Monologue.
	Why I don't buy the Russian coup story.
	And then Chris.
	That's a good angle for Chris.
	Something about the fake Feds would be interesting.
	The Feds, yeah.
	Hunter Biden and the fake feds.
	Nice.
	Nice.
	30 seconds.
	Come in with...
	30 seconds.
	This is the final battle.
	With you at my side, we will demolish the deep state.
	We will expel the warmongers from our government.
	We will drive out the globalists.
	We will cast out the communists, Marxists, and fascists.
	And we will throw off the sick political class that hates our country.
	We will rout the fake news media.
	And we will defeat crooked Joe Biden.
	We will liberate America from these villains once and for all.
	That's why they have to take him out.
	That's why they have to put him in a prison cell, or worse, again, at the Michigan Lincoln Day Dinner.
	President Trump's commitment to liberate you and me from the communists and the fascists, that is what they have become.
	Is it all starting to crack?
	Why was Hunter Biden and Joe Biden, why were they hiding out at Camp David at the weekend, allegedly with their attorneys?
	Are they having to strategize about the impending plea deal?
	Is the judge gonna smack it down and say, no, Hunter, you go to prison?
	Well, I don't know about that, but the heat has been turned up And we have to pay credit to my Newsmax colleague, James Rosen.
	I will be hosting Chris Plant's show tonight.
	He's on vacation.
	What is that?
	Vacation?
	I'll be hosting his show 9 o'clock tonight on Newsmax, The Wright Squad, and tomorrow.
	Don't miss it.
	And I'll be trying to get James Rosen on my Newsmax show this weekend.
	But he brought the goods.
	About a certain...
	...text message, an encrypted one, that Hunter Biden sent to somebody in China, and he read it to Karine Jean-Pierre in the White House.
	Cut 6.
	...your statements from that podium.
	You've stated... ...correct.
	We're going to play Karine Jean-Pierre, but we need to hear James read the text of the message to John Kirby, who has a... how shall I put it?
	Rather unprofessional reaction to James reading the text.
	This is cut seven.
	Go ahead.
	The House Ways and Means Committee yesterday released documents, their Authenticity Nowhere challenge.
	That included a July 2017 WhatsApp message sent by Hunter Biden to Henry Zhao, a Chinese Communist Party official, which stated in its entirety, and I quote, I am sitting here with my father.
	And we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled.
	Tell the director that I would like to resolve this now, before it gets out of hand, and now means tonight.
	And Z, if I get a call or a text from anyone involved in this other than you, Zhang, or the chairman, I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me, and every person he knows, and my ability to forever hold a grudge, that you will regret not following my direction.
	I am sitting here waiting for the call with my father."
	So just a couple of questions about this.
	First, does this not undermine the president's claim during the 2020 campaign and the reaffirmations of that claim by his two press secretaries since then that he never once discussed his son's overseas business dealings with him?
	No, and I'm not going to comment further on this.
	James, James, let me just, let me save you some, let me save, Let me save you some breath if you're gonna ask about this.
	I am not addressing... I know you do. More than I'd like you to have.
	I am not going to address this issue from this podium. I'm just not going to do it.
	I'm not going to do it.
	Where was the President on this?
	Thank you. Thanks guys. Have a great weekend.
	That's why that man should never have worn a naval uniform, let alone the new uniform of a Vice Admiral.
	He's a coward.
	You're a coward, Kabul Kirby!
	Walking away from the podium when somebody's asking you a question about a piece of evidence that has been provided in court about the president's son extorting money from a communist Chinese official.
	Let's just look at the text of that message.
	I mean, it really is like that of some crummy organized crime novel.
	You have not fulfilled your commitment.
	We will hold a grudge and you will regret it.
	Now why is Hunter Biden saying, not fulfilled your commitment?
	What are those weasel words?
	We know what we're talking about.
	Fulfilled your commitment.
	What?
	To wash the Mustang?
	The Stingray?
	The Corvette?
	No, we know what it is.
	To not fulfill your commitment.
	To send the five million dollars to me and the five million dollars to my dad.
	And my father's sitting with me?
	What is that?
	That's extortion!
	Is the left finally throwing them under the bus?
	Then we have Corinne Jean-Pierre likewise being asked tough questions.
	Cut six.
	What I will say is, nothing has changed.
	Nothing has changed.
	And I will leave it there.
	that the president stands by his comment from the 2020 campaign that he never once discussed
	his son's overseas business dealings with his son.
	And you stood at that podium and you reaffirmed that.
	Do you stand by your reaffirmation?
	What I will say is nothing has changed.
	Nothing has changed.
	And I will leave it there.
	Anything else, I will refer you to the White House counsel.
	I just answered the question.
	You just asked me, does my statement change?
	I just told you nothing has changed.
	That's answering the question.
	Go ahead.
	Stephen, I'm calling on your colleague right now.
	Go ahead.
	Thank you.
	To follow up on my colleague, is there anything that you can say with regard to this text message and what the President's son was Alleging.
	Was the President there or not?
	I would refer you to my colleagues at the White House Council.
	They have addressed this, and I refer you to them.
	Go ahead.
	Kareen, have you spoken to the President about this?
	Have you asked him whether he was there with his son on July 30th?
	This is not a conversation that I've had with the President.
	Again, I would refer you to the White House Council.
	Do you plan to have that conversation with the President?
	No.
	I think things are getting a little bit spicy for the Bidens and for his team.
	Are they throwing him under the bus?
	Let's hear from you, 833-33 Gorka, 833-334-6752 on that or the fake coup in Russia.
	833-334-6752 on that or the fake coup in Russia.
	Let's go to Phil in Philly, line one.
	Yo, Dr. G, good afternoon.
	We don't think that the Wagner general was stupid enough to sign his own death warrant to go to Belarus, because Putin can get anybody.
	He can get anybody.
	But what we think Is that when he got that, he was probably contacted by the inner circle saying, you know, what are you going to do when you get to red squares?
	You'll get, yo, Adrian, what are you going to do?
	Chill out.
	Give us a little time.
	The coup is in op.
	We're moving forward with the coup.
	You're going to be the next president.
	This is what we think's happening.
	And we're also hoping that General Michael Flynn's watching this with an eagle eye.
	When you say we, who's we?
	Our little listening group here that we love listening to here in Philly.
	So you actually believe that Prigozhin thought he could take down the Russian army with 25,000 guys?
	I don't think they would have fired on him.
	Why?
	Because I think they're tired of Putin.
	I think they're tired of... Okay, stop.
	What do you base that on?
	What do you base that, because that's a bold statement, that three million people are tired of Putin and they're prepared to get rid of him?
	Well, when he went into the town, they were cheering him and not one Russian put up a fight.
	They were cheering him when he went into, what was it called, Rudokon or something like that?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But hang on a second.
	If you don't have weapons and a bunch of mercenaries run into your town, are you going to try and stop them?
	And he gets 600 miles from Moscow?
	Yeah, and then suddenly turns around.
	All right, we will continue the discussion.
	Thank you to you and your team, Phil.
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	45 seconds Bye.
	Thank you.
	You can put the mics up.
	Yeah, they're on.
	Well, yeah, but the screen isn't.
	They were off for a moment.
	There we go.
	There we go, 30 seconds.
	That fucks Chiron.
	I know, it's amazing.
	Amazing.
	I think somebody else thought of that idea before.
	Indeed.
	Actually.
	Hello, my name is Admiral Rachel Levine.
	And I have the honor of being the Assistant Secretary for Health at the United States
	Department of Health and Human Services.
	Happy Pride!
	Happy Pride Month, and actually, let's declare it a Summer of Pride!
	Happy Summer of Pride!
	Get me a bucket!
	Richard Levine.
	God, you are such an ugly woman.
	Well, you're not a woman.
	You're a man in a skirt.
	Now it's gonna be, what, Pride Summer?
	Eric, is there gonna be Pride Year next?
	What do you think?
	I don't know if decent people in this country will be able to stand a whole year of Pride.
	Oh my gosh.
	Nice music though, Alex, from Russia with love.
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	Alright, Russia!
	What really happened?
	Short of getting Putin on the phone, There is no better guest than the person who just, you know, was Mrs. Russia at the D.I.A., briefed everybody who was anybody in the U.S.
	government.
	She's the author of Putin's Playbook, a good friend of the show, Rebecca Koffler.
	Welcome back to America First.
	I'm so delighted to be here with you and your audience, Deb.
	All right, so I'm kind of amused by these stories of Putin ran away, he flew away, he was almost taken down, and I was on a Twitter space, a 24-hour long Twitter space, it was insane, while I was in the UK, where all of these people who know nothing about Russia, nothing about strategy, were trying to convince me that Prigozhin, the guy with maybe 25,000 fighters, was going to take Moscow when Napoleon and Hitler had failed.
	Please give us your response to the events of the last 72 hours in Russia.
	Exactly, Sam.
	You're 100% correct.
	It is absurd to think that Prigozhin would even think that it is possible to do that.
	Putin's Rosgvardiya alone, which is the national guard created in 2016 specifically, With the goal of squashing any kind of rebellion.
	They have 340,000 men.
	And that's not even counting the SVR, the GRU, the FSB, the NVD.
	I mean, are we supposed to believe that Prigozhin is an idiot or he's suicidal?
	This man has built an empire, a multimillion dollar empire of a catering business.
	Plus, he is running the Internet Research Agency, which is the cover company for Putin's doctrine of election interference to destabilize societies.
	specific president, right, but to destabilize the country.
	Yes.
	And the Wagner group is one of the top mercenary forces in the world with contracts all over.
	We expect that this man would just do that and be acting this irrationally.
	No, it's President Biden who is irrational.
	He's in played by Putin.
	This was a ruse.
	This was a false flag operation.
	There's a special doctrine that I described in my book that underpins that operation,
	reflects the control.
	I can tell your audience, whatever.
	We'll talk about that, but first things first.
	What is the potential goal here?
	One theory I've heard floated is that they've moved Prigozhin and his troops into Byelorussia, which is a perfect place from where to attack Ukraine from the north.
	What do you think?
	Exactly, so that is correct.
	So look what just happened right under our noses.
	This is what I call the art of Putin's fake coup to oust himself.
	Prigozhin, who is, again, the leader of the world's most vicious and most effective mercenary force, he is now in Belarus within a striking distance from Kiev, and the critical supply routes Threatening NATO's borders.
	Remember, Lukashenko, who just miraculously brokered this deal, right, just in time, was just the recipient of Putin's gift of tactical nukes.
	So, Prigozhin plus nukes, threatening NATO, that is the outcome.
	There was a talk of Prigozhin opening the second front to complete that war in Ukraine that Putin desperately needs
	to finalize because his election is coming up.
	Can you stay for just one more quick segment, Rebecca?
	Yeah.
	All right, follow her right now, Rebecca0132, that's R-E-B-E-K-A-H.
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	You're listening to America First with Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump.
	Welcome back, dear friends.
	We've got back-to-back guests.
	It's one of those Mondays.
	It's a crazy day.
	I've got one more question for the former expert on Russia for the Defense Intelligence Agency who literally wrote the book Putin's Playbook.
	Follow Rebecca Koffler right now on Twitter at Rebecca01.
	Rebecca, you know, all of this talk of coups and revolutions and yadda yadda yadda.
	There's one big piece people don't seem to think about.
	Is there any indigenous opposition to the president?
	Because as far as I know, in the last 20 years he's managed to imprison, kill or poison anybody who has any effective power against him.
	Exactly.
	This is Putin's assassination playbook, right, called the wet affairs that he consistently and always deploys against his opponent.
	I mean, look what happened to Navalny.
	Look what happened to Karamurza.
	He either exiles them No, at this point, there is no viable opposition that could remove Putin from power.
	They flee, or he poisons them, he throws them out a window, and when I say he, obviously
	he hires, you know, the hitmen who do that.
	Now, at this point, there is no viable opposition that could remove Putin from power.
	But also remember, Sebastian, if, let's say, Putin is somehow removed from power, even
	a worse person, somebody like Prigozhin, vicious, is going to assume the reigns of Russia.
	It's because the Russians prefer a strong...
	It's like Yeltsin left, and then what do we get?
	We get Putin!
	So people don't think these things through.
	Will you come back for a longer discussion later in the week?
	Absolutely, I will be delighted to, Dr. Gawker.
	All right, Putin's playbook is the book and there's another book behind her about some chap called Bannon called Always the Rebel by somebody called Koffler as well.
	Maybe they're related.
	Check them both out.
	Bannon always the rebel and Putin's playbook.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	All right, we have a new guest joining us right now from a company that I think maybe Hunter Biden should have thought of using.
	It's a satellitephonestore.com.
	He's Chris Hall.
	He is the spokesman for the satellite phone store.
	Chris, you've got a product that many people, given recent events in America, may be interested in checking out.
	Will you talk to us about what they can find at sat123.com and why satellite phones are a little bit better than regular cell phones, Chris?
	Sebastian, yes, they really are.
	And the one reason is this, is that satellite phones, such as this one here, the Iridium 955, This works directly off satellites.
	It doesn't require a cell phone tower.
	So, if the cell phone towers are down or you're out of range of a cell tower, you can turn on your satellite phone and you can send a text message, receive a text message, make a call, receive a call.
	Doesn't matter where you are.
	Sebastian, only 7% of the Earth is covered by Cell service.
	I read that.
	I read that and I couldn't believe it.
	So you are now confirming 7% of the earth is covered by cell phones?
	And then what about satellite phones?
	100%.
	All you need to be able to do is to be able to see the sky, because you have again a direct connection up to the satellite.
	That's how you make or receive calls.
	So as long as you can see the sky, you can make or receive a call.
	Whether you're in the middle of the ocean, The middle of Afghanistan or the middle of downtown Denver, Sebastian, where my cell phone does not do very well, actually, on a normal day.
	All right, so who's buying them?
	Because, you know, I remember when satellite phones were the playthings of, you know, adventurers, explorers, billionaires and, you know, special forces.
	Can anybody get one now?
	Well, yeah, when they first came out back in the 90s, if you can believe it, they were really a rich man's toy.
	Like you said, they cost 10, 20.
	$30,000 each and you're looking at $20 to $30 a minute.
	That's obviously not affordable to most people.
	But at Sat123.com, we've got them today free with activation.
	So you can get a $1,500 phone for free with activation on a 24-month plan.
	It's $99 a month and you get 100 minutes a month for that.
	And we're also throwing a free Garmin Forerunner 45 watch, a GPS watch as well.
	So this watch communicates with your cell phone and just gives you your text messages.
	So it's kind of like the Apple Watch, but those things are pretty pricey.
	So you get a free cell phone, a free watch with activation, and you will never be out of cell service again.
	And look, Sebastian, these are the same phones that the U.S.
	military uses.
	All the brave men and women who serve our country We'll be familiar with these because out there in the sandbox, this is what they're using not only to call home, but the US military is using these for their war operations.
	I want everybody to go to sat123.com right now.
	That's sat123.com.
	I want everybody to go to sat123.com right now.
	That's sat123.com.
	The phone number is 941-955-1020.
	And one thing that you kind of very quickly skipped over at the beginning that needs repeating.
	I remember after 9-11, unless you had the PTT kind of press, the kind of quick messaging service that BlackBerry's had, On the day of 9-11, you couldn't make a phone call in New York or the vicinity, and even in DC, it started to, you know, break down because it was just overloaded.
	The cell phone towers were physically overloaded.
	When there's an emergency, when there's a crisis, does the same thing happen to satellite phones, Chris?
	No, it doesn't, because there just aren't that many of them out there, Sebastian, so you don't have the problem.
	A cell tower can usually take Around 500 simultaneous calls maximum.
	And of course, when you have a disaster, or when you had that horrific shooting in Las Vegas, you had thousands of people trying to get on their cell phone to make a call for help, and their calls were being rejected.
	So even if you have active cell towers, and you have an emergency or crisis, you may not be able to send or receive a call.
	And these are life-saving calls, obviously.
	So a satellite phone, the satellite phone network does not get jammed up like that.
	There's just not enough phones to do it.
	You know, they don't make millions of these a year.
	They make a couple of hundred thousand.
	That's it.
	So we actually ran out last year.
	I'm going to say something I don't think I've ever said on my show before, because usually I try something out and then I say, yeah, relief factor works for me.
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	I think today I'm going to get your cell phone after this call or your sat phone number.
	And I think I'm going to buy a couple of phones for my family, because this is important.
	I remember what happened after 9-11.
	And I want to be able to contact people and communicate for my family and with my family in the worst circumstances.
	Right, it's thesatellitephonestore.com, but go to sat123.com, sat123.com today, or call 941-955-1020.
	Thank you Chris, stay on the line.
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	Yeah, the chat was wondering.
	They were asking if it was maybe an Australian accent.
	No, it could have been Australian, but I think it's just British.
	It's been, like, buggered by American.
	Do you want to do that Patreon mobile embed here?
	I will do one here, yes.
	Titles, then, for Koffler and Chris.
	Yeah, so you'll edit that.
	You'll separate those out, right?
	Yeah, of course.
	We're supposed to believe... Oh no, we'll do it in the break.
	Okay.
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	That's pretty intriguing, isn't it?
	That satellite phone offer?
	Yes, but I saw you were excited to get it.
	I was going to let you know you can't get Twitter, though, on the satellite phones.
	What?
	Not even Truth Social?
	I mean, that's got to be your biggest thing on the phone, right?
	Twitter?
	Oh, gosh, you know me too well.
	Alright, in the meantime, we will be keeping our regular cell phones, but please tell me that your cell phone isn't making money for the left.
	It's that simple!
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	Tom, welcome to America First.
	Hello Dr. Gorka.
	Hey.
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	With 45, we thrived to stay alive.
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	Thank you, Tom.
	We'll go to your calls, Jerry and Judy, at the top of the hour.
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	Nobody listened to us.
	It's too late.
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	LSU out!
	All those parents together shouting stop grooming our kids and what is a t-shirt they're wearing?
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	Ready Thank you.
	Just when you thought the government would stop trying to take over more of our health care, there's a new sneaky bill working its way through the U.S.
	Senate led by radical socialist Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont.
	So, I am urgently asking you to support the Council for Citizens Against Government Waste to stop the Senate from passing the Sanders Bill S1339.
	S1339. It would raise...
	It would raise the price of prescription drugs by making it harder for pharmacy
	benefit managers to continue to save an average of $1,000 per year
	for 275 million Americans just like you.
	Bernie's bill is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
	It will not lower prescription drug prices and it will get him closer to his goal to create a socialist healthcare system here in America.
	But you and I can stop Bernie Sanders.
	Just go to www.LowerMyDrugPrices.com and add your name to thousands who are standing up and saying you don't want more government interference in healthcare.
	But you must hurry!
	The Sanders bill will come up for a vote in only a few weeks.
	Go to lowermydrugprices.com yes yes
	Has she had her on?
	Um, sorry, say that again?
	Yes, but only if she checks out.
	Check her out first.
	Why everyone should have a satellite phone.
	You're crazy if you believe the...
	Of course... No.
	No one should believe the Russian coup story.
	You're crazy if you believe the Russian coup story.
	...
	🎵Music🎵 Let me just, you know, I'm not going to go into the details
	of this. I'm going to go A lot of times, you'll have, you'll have, and it doesn't work very well with him.
	How tough is it to take away a property from an elderly woman?
	Let me talk.
	Quiet.
	How tough is it?
	A lot of times, a lot of times, that's all of his donors and special interests out there.
	That's what it is.
	And by the way, let me just tell you, we need the tickets.
	You can't get them.
	You know who has the tickets?
	I'm talking about to the television audience.
	Donors, special interests, the people that are putting up the money.
	The RNC told us we have all donors in the audience and the reason they're not loving me The reason they're not loving me is I don't want their money.
	I'm going to do the right thing for the American public.
	I don't want their money.
	I don't need their money.
	And I'm the only one up here that can say that.
	I forgot about that clip.
	That was President Trump on the debate stage with Jeb Bush at an event where the Trump campaign couldn't even invite their guests.
	Why?
	Because the RNC had all their big donors already there with their special interests and that's why they were booing the president.
	When he told the truth about the establishment, an establishment that is typified by a certain former governor of New Jersey.
	Mr. G, Howie Carr is pretty much a rhino, right?
	I think so, yeah.
	I mean, he's the media guy.
	Didn't he come from CNN?
	Oh, did he?
	Didn't he do the show before Stelter?
	Wasn't that him?
	Oh, that could be.
	Anyway, he kind of none again lets it slip what he really thinks about President Trump.
	And he had Chris Christie on his show at the weekend and I guess Chris Christie's a little bit jealous of our show here at America First.
	Let me show you.
	We've got the receipts.
	Cut one!
	Why is he going on his Sebastian Gorka's podcast and spending a bunch of time on me?
	I'm inside his head, Howie.
	And that's what I mean by having him on the run.
	That's the first step in getting in to him and showing everybody, plainly and clearly, that he's unfit to lead this country.
	I'm sorry, Fox, but they shouldn't use the word.
	The chyron at the bottom underneath the interview was Chris Christie in slugfest with Trump.
	When you've got Chris Christie on the camera, you really shouldn't use the word slug, should you, Jeff?
	Not the best.
	Not the best.
	What do you think that's all about?
	Is he jealous that President Trump comes on our show?
	First of all, it's a radio show, not a podcast.
	They try to diminish it, but it's some podcast all the time.
	No, I think he's just sick.
	I think Trump's in his head.
	Well, that's what I was going to ask.
	Do we really think Chris Christie... I mean, could Chris Christie fit in anybody's head?
	No, that's tough.
	That's tough to do.
	That is tough.
	All right.
	Let's just play that again.
	That's too much fun.
	Play that again, Guy, please.
	Why is he going on his Sebastian Gorka's podcast and spending a bunch of time on me?
	I'm inside his head, Howie.
	And that's what I mean by having him on the run.
	That's the first step in getting in to him and showing everybody, plainly and clearly, that he's unfit to lead this country.
	That's the first step in getting in to him.
	Eric, what does he even mean, that's the first step in getting in to him?
	I don't know, I mean... Wait, what is this?
	For Christy of all people to talk about, oh, getting into, like, a political circle or a position of power, he wishes.
	He was so close to being, what, like, Chief of Staff, I guess?
	Well, that's what he says!
	That's what he says.
	Either way, he missed out on being on the inside, and you can tell it's been eating away at him ever since.
	He can't stand it.
	No, no, it's eating away at him slowly, right?
	Slowly.
	Okay, we have an absolutely full call board.
	I know it's the top of the show, but I think we better take some calls.
	Waiting very patiently in Brooklyn.
	You know who she is.
	Judy, line three.
	Hey!
	Hey!
	Listen, I want you to know Chris Christie's nickname is Shamu the Whale.
	No, no, no, it's Krispy Kris.
	Krispy Kreme.
	Krispy Kreme Kris.
	Shamu the Whale.
	They're both good.
	We could use both of those.
	But hang on, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	I know.
	I absolutely forbid that because whales are nice.
	There you go.
	But you know what?
	We're talking about size now.
	We're talking about size, okay?
	You started it.
	You called him a whale.
	It's a nickname here in New York.
	Hello!
	Hello!
	Do you know something?
	He's telling everyone to get off the beach.
	Get off the beach, everyone!
	And then he's the only one sitting on the beach in the big... Please, look, I haven't had lunch yet.
	Are you trying to just destroy my appetite by reminding me of that photograph of him on that chair on the beach?
	So let me destroy your epithet a little bit more.
	American communists.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	I love what Trump was saying.
	American communists.
	To me, it's like an oxymoron.
	American communists?
	There's nothing American about communists.
	Can we start by getting rid of John Brennan?
	And Bernie Saunders is not a socialist.
	He's a diehard American communist.
	He's a commie.
	And you know what?
	You know what?
	Can we get rid of Joe Biden?
	Because he, I was told, was part of the American Communist Party decades ago.
	Guess what?
	I'm not surprised.
	And Obama too, and a few others we could get rid of.
	But by the way, can we get rid of the corrupt media?
	Could we?
	They say nothing.
	When it comes to Biden corruption news, everything is like sealed.
	Nothing.
	ABC, NBC, CNN, whatever.
	They don't talk about it.
	It's like unbelievable.
	What do you mean, Judy, by getting rid of them?
	What does that mean, Judy from Brooklyn?
	Well, you know what?
	I don't know.
	Don't be naughty.
	I can't say on the air.
	By the way, that guy Chris, I kind of thought he was a bit of an Australian accent, but not quite.
	I knew there was something off.
	He's actually, it turns out, he's actually from Suffolk.
	He's from England.
	Well, I've got news for you.
	What?
	I don't like the Australian accent.
	That's why I... You know what's worse than not liking the Australian accent, Judy?
	I'll tell you what's worse.
	You grew up in Australia, didn't you?
	Yes, I did.
	What's worse than not liking Australia?
	It's being born in England, as I was, and then people meeting me for the first time, hearing me speak and say, Oh, are you from Australia or South Africa?
	That really pisses me off.
	Well, I want to tell you something.
	I love the British accent.
	I love your accent.
	I do not like the Aussie.
	I don't like the Eastern accent.
	I do like the American accent.
	That's why by the time I got off the boat, because I came by boat, I sounded like I was on a Canadian boat.
	I sounded exactly like them, except I had the vocabulary of an English person.
	Well, you're a chameleon, Judy, and we love the fact that you, too, are an American like me now.
	God bless you.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First, and I've got a relative who's listening to me in California, and she just texted me.
	She said, congratulations!
	With four exclamation marks.
	That comment from Krispy Kreme Kris is a huge compliment.
	I'll take it.
	Thank you, Auntie.
	Enough said.
	Let's go to your calls.
	So many people out there.
	Let's go to California.
	Wendy!
	Hello!
	Well, hi, Zeb.
	It's not Zeb.
	It's Seb.
	With an S. Seb.
	Thank you.
	Oh, did I do it with a C?
	You did it with a Z, like Zebediah.
	Oh, that's just lazy lips.
	Sorry.
	No lazy lips on this show.
	This is national radio.
	Thank you very much.
	Okay, I apologize.
	Thank you.
	So, I'm thinking that all of a sudden they found this extra money.
	Mind you, the left is always a step ahead, right?
	Yeah.
	So they found this extra money, the whole blowing up of the submarine didn't last long.
	Yep.
	I believe, and that's why it's so weird that this military group that does all this stuff goes in, oops, and then exits.
	I do believe that the strategy to make something good is to, like you said, put themselves
	on the North Side or whatever.
	But I believe, since we're still buying stuff from Russia...
	What do you mean, buying stuff from Russia?
	Oil and stuff like that.
	Yeah, go on.
	Okay, that the Sleepy Creepy in the White House is so bought by everyone that this was
	just another wag the dog and that's where that extra money went to.
	Well, I've heard this a lot this weekend, and I don't understand why people come up with these conspiracy theories with no evidence.
	The money didn't disappear.
	The money was actually found.
	It didn't go anywhere.
	They found an extra six billion dollars.
	It didn't disappear.
	It's the opposite.
	It was unaccounted for and found.
	And on top of that, are you seriously saying five people were killed in a submarine to, what, distract America?
	No, I'm just saying that that distraction didn't last long.
	But hang on, hang on, why are you calling it a distraction?
	Are you saying it didn't happen or it was planned?
	No, I'm just saying that whatever the media has that isn't outing the corruption, that was just, that was cake, that was extra frosting.
	That this thing that's going on now is reckless.
	But do you have any evidence connecting the six billion dollars to Prigozhin and to the Wagner Group?
	Well, no.
	That's the problem, my dear.
	Let's not do that.
	Let us conservatives stick to the evidence and let's let the crazy leftists be the conspiracy theorists.
	Please, guys.
	Come on.
	We're better than they are.
	Thank you, Wendy.
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	SebGolgasto.com I am loving that like the whole submarine thing did draw
	like dredge up some pun intended like titanic conspiracy theories
	Like, that nutjob, that Alex Jones wannabe in Georgia Stu Peters.
	Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I've heard of that guy, Stu Peters.
	didn't see the Titanic right it was sank by a bomb because they're rich people on
	board who opposed the creation of the Federal Reserve yeah yeah yeah and he
	had a guy and to interview to just talk about it further as his guest he had a
	Google whistleblower on to talk about the Titanic I'm like really I've heard
	of that guy Stu Peters who is he total nutjob again he basically is an Alex
	Jones wannabe he spoke at Fuentes his conference the one that yeah yeah he was
	Right after she got off the stage, he accused her of being involved in child sex trafficking.
	They say he was drunk on stage, like literally drunk on that stage.
	So, no, total whack job.
	Whack job!
	He makes Alex Jones look sane, let's put it that way.
	Oh, can you get a clip or promo b-roll of the movie?
	Nefarious, we're gonna need that.
	The only thing I could find was a trailer.
	Is that alright?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Alright, we're gonna get that.
	Alright, awesome.
	And we have John on the line.
	Three minutes.
	Hey guys!
	Hello!
	Can you get centered here?
	Hello!
	Happy Monday.
	Let me get centered right.
	Happy Monday.
	I think I'm there.
	Okay, here we go.
	Good.
	Alright.
	How are you?
	I am good.
	I'm just posting your multi-year government plot.
	Yeah.
	Let me get... All of government effort to tip the scale of the election.
	There's no doubt about it now.
	It's not even in dispute.
	No.
	And some of the media is starting to cover it a little bit.
	Right, that's my first question to you.
	I'm going to ask you whether that means something to you.
	I predicted this about a month ago.
	It's because I'm seeing it behind the scenes.
	I'm getting contacted by a lot of mainstream reporters.
	Where was that event with Biden, Jeff?
	He just stepped out to go get the cut.
	Oh, and I'm going to use cut 13 here.
	I'm going to tee it up, though.
	You'll tee up cut 13.
	For John.
	Alrighty.
	How are things, buddy?
	Good.
	Busy.
	Busy, busy, busy, busy.
	I got so many different things going on, but I want to give you a call tonight.
	I want to ask you about someone.
	I'm thinking of hiring.
	I just want to get your temperature, so I'll give you a call.
	So how about before 7 or after 9?
	Okay, I'll call you right at like 6-10 once I get off air.
	Oh, perfect.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Thank you.
	I really value your opinion on this one.
	Totally, totally, totally, totally.
	Good, good, good.
	I wish we could get you on there.
	I'm hosting tomorrow night as well.
	I wish we could have you as one of the guests.
	I know.
	I keep getting boxed out.
	I love everything you do.
	Too kind.
	Alright, I've posted it on Twitter.
	I'm now going to post it on Facebook.
	Super.
	And then we can talk about it.
	Alright.
	Love it.
	Oh, I didn't mention Just The News.
	Just The News.
	Oh, thank you.
	Got it.
	Is it somebody I know who you're hiring?
	I hope so.
	That's why I want to pick your brain.
	Okay, good.
	My pillow.
	My pillow?
	Okay, all right.
	Oh, I could hire Megalinda.
	Oh, no, no, you weren't talking about hiring.
	Never mind.
	Okay, sorry.
	Yeah, I was, I was.
	All right.
	All right.
	All right, 30 seconds.
	Thank you.
	T-Up cut 13.
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	It's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	I was in London at the weekend and it wasn't cheeseburgers, it was fish and chips and man was it good.
	Oh dear.
	And I had a doner kebab with chilli sauce.
	Took me back to the good old days.
	Enough of that, we've got work to do.
	A moment from the John Durham testimony last week that, well, you won't hear it in the legacy-lying media.
	Just 13 seconds from the irrepressible Matt Gaetz Man, did he unload both barrels.
	He surely did.
	Cut 13.
	This whole thing was an op, Mr. Durham.
	This wasn't like a bumbling, fumbling FBI that couldn't get FISA straight.
	They ran an op.
	So who put Mifsud in play?
	You don't know, do you?
	I do not know that.
	How is that possible?
	The guy who's disappeared, Mifsud, who was the person who went up to George Papadopoulos and said, I know Putin.
	I can introduce you to his niece.
	It was all a lie, of course.
	Even the woman he introduced him to had no connections to Putin.
	And you're supposed to investigate it as special counsel?
	And you don't even know where he is?
	It's all a cover-up.
	Let's talk to a man who's been speaking truth for the last seven years about all of this.
	He's the creator, the founder, the editor-in-chief of justthenews.com.
	John Solomon.
	Happy Monday.
	Happy Monday, good to be with you.
	That was deserved, wasn't it, from Matt Gaetz, what he said to special counsel Durham?
	Listen, the idea that there was an op going on is exactly right.
	There was an op, and it was one that started in the Hillary Clinton campaign.
	It involved a whole-of-government approach.
	It is still going on today.
	The effort to protect Joe Biden, and even into the last few months, that the IRS agent shows that the op of the United States government putting its thumb on the scale.
	So Matt Gaetz has that part right.
	I think right after that clip, John Durham went back to say, hey, there's some things I can't talk about that are in a classified section of the report.
	I think he knows a few things about Mifsud.
	That's not very comforting to us, because we don't know it.
	So it doesn't matter that he wrote it in some classified section of a memo or learned about it in a classified setting.
	But I do think that Mifsud is there.
	Whatever the case is, Mifsud's approach to George Papadopoulos results in the opening of Crossfire Hurricane, because it's that allegation That's planted in his head that then goes to Downer, the Australian diplomat, who then goes to the FBI.
	And oh, by the way, Downer is very close to the Hillary Clinton campaign.
	Anybody surprised by that?
	No, we're not.
	Not only that, when he was the Foreign Secretary, he gave a million Australian... 25.
	25 million.
	25.
	That was my story at the Hill a long time ago.
	He gave it to the Clinton Foundation, right?
	He is.
	He's total friends with the Clintons, from start to finish.
	This originated with Democrats, and to this day, the Democrats are still deceiving us.
	In a couple of weeks, I'm going to make some documents available.
	We're going to take a look at how well the impeachment testimony of 2019-2020 fares, now that we have the government documents.
	I know you know the answer already, because we knew at the time we weren't being told the truth.
	We continue to get lied to, whether it's the 51 agents, whether it's the FBI that won't share documents with their own IRS colleagues that would have made Hunter Biden in bigger trouble, whether it's US attorney's offices, which blocked both prosecutions and search warrants.
	The government, a whole of government operation has been going on.
	to put the weight of the government on the scale of our elections.
	And it's been done to both protect Donald Trump and to sell your dirty up Donald,
	I'm sorry, to protect Joe Biden and to sell your dirty up Donald Trump.
	It's no longer in dispute.
	The evidence is playing out there.
	And here's the amazing thing.
	Despite a media blackout, a majority of Americans in the Harvard-Harris
	Caps poll this past weekend said that they believe the government is interfering in the election.
	That tells you something.
	Even with a blockade, Americans have figured it out.
	Right.
	I've put it at the top of my Twitter, my Truth Social, my Facebook, both of them right now.
	It's the latest piece from John.
	It's called, With New Evidence, Congress Unmasks a Multi-Year Government Plot to Protect Biden and to Solid Trump.
	Guys, just please Follow John J. Solomon Reports, bookmark JustinNews.com because this is the guy who's been correct on this for years now.
	Now, I've played this cut already, but it's really important because I need you to react to whether this is indicative of some watershed, of something changing.
	So this is Friday.
	My Newsmax colleague, also a real journalist, one of the few left, James Rosen, an absolute Straight, straight, straight shooter who reads this encrypted text message from Hunter Biden to this Chinese contact.
	Let's just put it like that.
	And then John Kirby's reaction.
	Play cut seven, please.
	The House Ways and Means Committee yesterday released documents, their Authenticity Nowhere Challenge.
	That included a July 2017 WhatsApp message sent by Hunter Biden to Henry Zhao, a Chinese Communist Party official, which stated in its entirety, and I quote, I am sitting here with my father.
	And we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled.
	Tell the director that I would like to resolve this now, before it gets out of hand, and now means tonight.
	And Z, if I get a call or a text from anyone involved in this other than you, Zhang, or the chairman, I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me, and every person he knows, and my ability to forever hold a grudge, that you will regret not following my direction.
	I am sitting here waiting for the call with my father."
	So just a couple of questions about this.
	First, does this not undermine the president's claim during the 2020 campaign and the reaffirmations of that claim by his two press secretaries since then that he never once discussed his son's overseas business dealings with him?
	No, and I'm not going to comment further on this.
	James, James, let me just, let me save you some, let me save, Let me save you some breath.
	If you're going to ask about this, I am not addressing... I know you do.
	More than I'd like you to have.
	I am not going to address this issue from this podium.
	I'm just not going to do it.
	I'm not going to do it.
	Thanks, guys.
	Have a great weekend.
	Picks up his folder and walks away.
	Picks up his ball and walks away with the ball.
	John, the fact that CNN, CNN, later this weekend, also read the full text out on air.
	You know these guys the best!
	Are they finally doing some journalism?
	I might have said to you about six, eight, ten, twelve weeks ago, maybe about three months ago, Mainstream news media began reaching out to me, the same ones that called me a conspiracy theorist in 19 for reporting the same stuff then.
	And they answer, you got it right, we were a little bit wrong, help us get on the right track.
	And I've been working behind the scenes with several major news organizations to just help them understand the facts.
	They'll come to whatever conclusion they want.
	The CBS story with the IRS whistleblower was a collaboration with Just News.
	Here's something else that's really important.
	There's a second piece of evidence a lot of reporters missed in the documents released by the House Ways and Means Committee.
	It's just as devastating as that text message.
	It is an eyewitness account from one of Joe Biden's close friends, Rob Walker.
	He sits between.
	And Rob Walker says, I was in a meeting.
	I was in a meeting where Joe Biden attended with Hunter and the same CEFC officials, the Chinese energy company, And yes, the current president and the former vice president, he did attend a meeting.
	He did.
	He was part of the effort to shake the Chinese down for money.
	Now, just think about that.
	A close friend is willing to admit that.
	Imagine how many more admissions we're going to get.
	Now, I'm going to point everybody to a very important person.
	Keep your eye on mid-July.
	I think that's... We've got 20 seconds left.
	Who's the important person?
	It's going to be Devin Archer.
	He's looking like he may cooperate.
	Everyone should keep an eye on that man.
	He has a lot of truth to tell.
	I don't know how this man does it after what they did to him.
	He's actually helping fake journalists to do their job.
	That's why we love John Solomon.
	Jay Solomon reports Just The News, not noise, every weekday and also justthenews.com.
	God bless you, John.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	Your call is next here.
	833-33-Gawker.
	Stay on this channel.
	Alright, title for that one?
	Something about Hunter, or maybe the Kirby thing?
	How I know the legacy media changed their mind on Biden.
	Mm hmm.
	Thanks.
	Sorry?
	Two and a half minutes.
	So many cuts.
	You still have some Trump cuts.
	I do?
	Well, let's see.
	Which ones did we play?
	Oh, what?
	Two we haven't.
	Levine we played.
	Karine we played.
	Kirby we played.
	Played nine again.
	Nine.
	There's no doubt in my mind that Loretta Lynch and Jim Comey were wrong in not prosecuting Hillary Clinton.
	I don't think the way you fix the justice system is then to say anybody in a similar circumstance going forward gets a pass.
	I just don't think that's the way you fix the system by relying upon precedence from people who are so obviously wrong.
	Did you listen to the whole... Oh, where's he gone?
	He's still cutting up, I think, that trailer.
	For a date.
	D. 80 seconds.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	Hmm.
	What?
	Someone posted a picture from the aftermath of that little chopper tour that Sanus just did on the border.
	Yeah.
	Like, next to the... I guess that's the fox guy, Bill... Magooon, or... Or, I guess the guy... Magoon.
	Yeah.
	He's so much shorter than him, too, to Sanus's like... Really?
	Yeah, let me send you the tweet.
	Was he wearing his Cuban heels?
	Unveil evil in nefarious... He is wearing mom jeans, that's for sure.
	He's pulling the Mitt Romney.
	He does like his mom jeans.
	That's another side of like a Republican candidate who just doesn't get it.
	Ha ha ha!
	Oh, dude.
	Ten seconds.
	Knock.
	Knee deep in the swamp.
	First place in your hearts.
	America first with Dr. G. Well, we cracked it about 20 seconds ago.
	Eric helped us out.
	If you want to know how to identify a rhino, a Republican candidate, they wear mom jeans.
	Right, Eric?
	It has to be the thing.
	I mean, from Romney to DeSantis, it's a telltale pattern.
	Yeah, and where's DeSantis today?
	Where did he go?
	He's doing a little helicopter tour over the southern border to make it look like he's in charge or something.
	Do you know what he said, Eric?
	He said if he becomes president, Ron DeSantis said he's going to build a wall.
	I've heard that before.
	Who said that?
	Build the wall?
	I think it was the guy who came down an escalator in 2015.
	You mean my old boss?
	Yeah, yeah, the greatest president in modern history.
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	Oh, while we're talking about Ron DeSantis, here's President Trump in Michigan at the weekend again.
	Cut to...
	Ron DeSantis opposed my China tariffs very strongly And simply put, he's...
	Is it something to do with his donors?
	Like Ken Griffin?
	Interesting question.
	We will continue.
	for workers in America and successfully fought, successfully like nobody has ever
	fought so successfully. Why would Ron DeSantis try to prevent President
	Trump's tariffs against China? Is it something to do with his donors like Ken
	Griffin? Interesting question. We will continue. Let's go to Klaus in
	California, line four.
	Hey Dr. King, give me a second here.
	I'm trying to get into the conference room.
	Speaking of... Are you escaping from some work commitment?
	Are you in a meeting right now, Klaus?
	No, sir.
	Just a break.
	Just a quick break from my cubicle.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	What's your comment?
	What's your question?
	Any excuse to get off work for you, Dr. G. All right.
	So, speaking of...
	wall I have an idea for a t-shirt yes and that would be have a have a sketch of a schoolhouse and have the words hey groomers leave them kids alone and then on top of the school head on top of the school hang on I'm writing this one down this one's good hang on hang on go ahead get on top of the schoolhouse Have an American First flag as the conquering flag of our school systems.
	Dude, that's superb.
	That's superb.
	I don't know if you have any of my books.
	Stay on the line.
	Hey, groomers, leave our kids alone.
	I love that.
	He gets to choose one of my books, whichever one he doesn't have.
	Stay on the line because that is a superb idea.
	Absolutely excellent.
	Let's go to Steve in California.
	Yeah.
	Hello Steve.
	Are you there?
	Steve, you're up!
	Wait.
	No, I can't wait.
	This is live radio.
	There are millions of people listening, Steve.
	No?
	You were there last year.
	No, I wasn't there last year.
	I think you're confusing me with somebody else.
	Don't do that.
	Jerry, New Jersey, line one.
	I got three, I got several things we're gonna go over.
	No, you're not going to go through several things, Jerry.
	I'll give you two, Jerry.
	You're obsessed with the number three.
	Today, the number is two.
	Number one, if people look at the history of the two parties, when they were found in 1828, they were the party of evil then and they're still the party now.
	They were the ones who basically split the country in two.
	Number one, they're the party of Jim Crow, the party of the Klan.
	And things haven't changed that much, that's number one.
	They're just following through.
	Okay, and the second thing that's tough to choose, what angers me, even though I'm not Christian, I'm Jewish, but what's going on in the Catholic Church over there in Europe is an absolute disgrace, and it's an absolute shame, and that Pope ought to be ashamed of himself.
	Well, you've got to understand the context.
	He was formed by the church influences in Latin America, the home of liberation theology, which was just another veiled form of communism.
	So, it's no surprise we're seeing what we're seeing coming out of the Vatican, whether it's pronouncements on homosexuality, the climate, or marriage for divorcees.
	You know where that's coming from.
	It's not God.
	It's politics.
	And I say that as a cradle Catholic.
	Thank you, Jerry.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First coming to you from just outside the insalubrious, fetid, rank, malodorous, noisome, it's not noisy, it's a noisome swab, that is Washington, D.C.
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	Bye.
	Bye.
	Alright, so he plays Edward, which is one of the main characters in the movie.
	It's the guy on Death Row.
	Yeah, and I got the trailer.
	Or part of it.
	Alright, show me the trailer.
	Wait 40 seconds, it's B-roll.
	Execution scheduled for 11 p.m.
	Did you want me to do it as a clip because it makes sense?
	Oh, hang on a second. Okay, give me a second I thought it was b-roll. All right
	Play back one go Sorry
	Execution scheduled for 11 p.m. He's trying to convince us he's gone insane
	And therefore incapable being executed I Need you to prove he's faking it Edwards
	I'm gonna ask you some questions.
	I'm not Edward.
	I'm a demon.
	Demons aren't really a thing.
	What happened to Edward?
	We owned him.
	We?
	He's a master manipulator.
	You have your head so twisted around you think you're the killer.
	Mic's off.
	Mic off.
	Oh.
	I need you to prove he's faking it.
	Edward?
	I'm gonna ask you some questions.
	I'm not Edward.
	I'm a demon.
	Demons aren't really a thing.
	What happened to Edward?
	We own him.
	He's a master manipulator.
	You have your head so twisted around, you think you're the killer.
	There is such a dearth of good things to watch in the movie theaters streaming at home.
	When you hear all of your friends rave about a film, you need to see that film.
	Or even better, you need to get its star on your show.
	And I'm very excited to do exactly that.
	That's just a little teaser of the movie Nefarious, which is a blockbuster at the moment.
	And the man who plays Nefarious is with us right now.
	Sean Patrick Flannery!
	Welcome to America First!
	Pleasure to be here, sir.
	Thanks for having me.
	Alright, I want to talk about the movie.
	Everybody out there should write down whoisnefarious.com.
	They should follow Sean Patrick Flannery at Sean Flannery for one reason alone.
	I don't know if you can see this if you're watching us.
	So I have his Wikipedia entry and I'm at the filmography thing.
	Just pay attention if you're listening on radio.
	This is going to be hard to do, but you know, the pause should probably tell you.
	This is the list of the things this guy has acted in.
	Ignoring TV, including the young Indiana Jones.
	You, Mr. Flannery, you've been in more than 60 movies.
	That's incredible.
	What are you, like 80 years old?
	85, you know.
	You look good!
	You look good!
	Thank you.
	You know, I always make a joke with my friends.
	I say, you know, I've made a career out of making films that nobody sees.
	You know, I'm very lucky.
	I haven't had to get a real job in 30-something years, so I'm grateful.
	I hope it never changes, because I know what a real job is.
	I've had plenty of them, and this is not one of them.
	So, grateful to be here.
	Well, you've done all kinds of things.
	You've been a race driver, black belt, jiu-jitsu martial artist.
	You're the star of this movie, or the anti-star of this movie.
	I don't want to give it away, but what is this movie about, and why did you agree to play such a dark role, Mr. Flannery?
	Well, I met Chuck and Carrie.
	Chuck and Carrie, Chuck Conzelman, Carrie Solomon, they wrote and directed God's Not Dead, they did Unplanned, but in 2004 they did a film called The Insatiable, and they hired me to act in their film.
	I had a wonderful time with them.
	I realized we were cut from the same cloth, and I told them at the culmination of the film, I said, guys, I would do a Froot Loops commercial with y'all.
	And about two years ago, today, they called me and they said, Flannery, what are you doing?
	I said, nothing.
	How are you guys doing?
	They said, well, we got a Froot Loops commercial.
	And I said, put me in, coach.
	And that's how it happened.
	They sent me the script.
	I read it.
	I had a conversation with my wife about it.
	Because, you know, dipping your toes into that pond is something that, you know, can affect your career.
	But my values, my morals, my ethics are what they are.
	I knew it was never an option.
	It's something I'm incredibly proud of.
	I'm grateful to have been invited to be a part of it.
	I think it's one of the most important films I've ever had the opportunity to make.
	I hope it's one thing that one day my kids can go, my dad did that.
	When you say putting your toe in that pool, what is that pool you're referring to that other people don't put their toe into?
	You know, anything that, you know, goes in conflict with the woke culture.
	Certainly, you know, anything that is Christian that is outwardly Christian.
	Anything that places some common Hollywoodities in a negative light, which there are a number of those in the film.
	But I certainly, you know, it's something that I want my kids to see someday.
	They certainly haven't seen it at this point, but one day I want them to see it and go, wow, that's what daddy stood for.
	And hopefully they think I did a good job.
	Hollywoodities.
	I like that, Hollywoodities.
	Let me run a theory past you that maybe, hopefully, you'll agree with.
	So, my wife and I fell upon a Schwarzenegger movie last week we've never seen before.
	It's called The End of Days.
	And it's Arnold basically fighting the devil.
	And unusually, spoilers, he dies at the end.
	He sacrifices himself to save the female squeeze.
	And it was tough.
	I mean, it was tough because the person, Gabriel Byrne, playing the devil, plays him very well.
	I mean, it is hard to watch.
	And my take with all of these types of movies is, Omen, the original Omen, is one of my favorite movies and I saw it as a child and it shook me.
	And my take is this, I will watch movies about Satan and the devil If they communicate that he's real.
	If it's just a horror movie, I'm not interested.
	But if it's a well-made, well-written movie, where they are communicating to the audience, you know what?
	The Prince of Darkness is real.
	You need to take him seriously.
	I approve of that.
	Is that another reason why you did Nefarious, Sean?
	Yeah, well, I mean, the film, it follows the teachings of Christianity, top to bottom.
	Arguably more authentically than anything I've ever read or seen before.
	So, absolutely.
	It's categorized as a horror film.
	It's not a horror film in any stretch of the imagination.
	Any some more avenue than a gunfight is scary.
	When you see a movie about two people, you know, a bank heist, and there's guns, that's scary.
	But, because people are dying, that's scary.
	But it's not... Nefarious is not a horror film for horror's sake.
	It's a psychological thriller, if you will, because it's a man placed between two things that he believes are objective truths.
	And one rears its ugly head in his day-to-day life, and another comes out to prove that what he sees on a daily basis might be the epitome of evil.
	You know, Satan incarnate.
	And the film, Top to Bottom, follows the teachings of Christianity, wholeheartedly.
	And I didn't do it specifically for a message, but it's something that I clearly, wholeheartedly believe in.
	And I think it's timely.
	I think in a moment where society seems to be I think even five years ago society was circling the drain.
	Now I think it's pretty close to tipping into the drain.
	So it's a scary time.
	If there ever is a time to make people wake up and look and consider something a bit different, something that's actually really foreign to people now, the fact that what this is and who you're speaking to, that seems to be a foreign idea.
	We're out of time.
	We're up against the heartbreak, but stay on the line.
	I've got a question for you in the commercials.
	The link is whoisnefarious.com.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker and we've been talking to its star, Sean Patrick Flannery.
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	You You
	you Can't handle the truth?
	Is reality just too much?
	There's always NPR.
	I hear they have tote bags.
	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	Dang nabbit!
	I'm gonna have to keep my phone ringer on while we're on the air.
	That's offensive, right?
	Jeff had a really good idea while I was interviewing Mr. Flannery.
	That guy's like a wicked black belt jujitsu guy.
	What was your question that I should have asked him?
	Oh, who's gonna win, Elon Musk or Zuckerberg, in the cage match?
	Yeah, but you know what the answer to that is, right?
	What's that?
	Zuckerberg is like a little stick insect.
	He's like a little weenie.
	Yeah, but he's been training, supposedly.
	He won a match.
	Eric, who's gonna win it?
	I really, really hope Elon pulls off the win, and I think he will.
	Alex?
	Elon's got mass.
	Zuck has skill.
	To quote the Soviet generals, mass has a quality all of its own.
	Guy, who's gonna win?
	Elon or Zucks?
	I think Elon seems to be bulkier.
	Heavier, taller and stronger.
	Yeah, it's like it's like these movies today where, you know, the 70 pound woman, you know, knocks out the 300 pound bad guy.
	And you just even my wife goes, Oh, are you kidding me?
	I don't care if you're a triple black belt.
	A 300 pound guy is not going to get thrown by Lauren Bobert.
	That's why Lauren Bobert does what?
	She packs heat.
	That's right.
	Remember what she said?
	After Robert O'Rourke, Beto, you're not coming after my guns.
	Alright, so how did we get here?
	To this insane situation?
	The left, incompetent at everything.
	Well, because of ideology.
	Do you want to understand why we have inflation?
	Why the borders open?
	Why war in Ukraine?
	Why Afghanistan deserted?
	Even, even watch the interview of the CEO of the submarine company.
	Why that happened?
	Here's the answer in 22 seconds.
	This is Corinne Jean-Pierre explaining who works in the White House.
	Cut 11.
	The cabinet is a majority people of color for the first time in history.
	The cabinet is a majority female for the first time in history.
	A majority of White House senior staff identify as female.
	40% of White House senior staff identify as part of the racially diverse communities.
	And a record seven assistants to the president are openly LGBTQ+.
	So, again, this is something that the president prides himself on.
	I missed something there.
	Hey Jeff, did you cut out the bit where she said, and they are also qualified for their jobs?
	No, that's what I was thinking.
	It's also 100% incompetent for the first time in history.
	I love the bit Eric caught it where she said, and we have 70% of them identify as women, right?
	Not our women!
	Identify as women.
	That's why we are where we are today, and that's why we need to get my old boss back in the White House.
	In the meantime, let's stop the insanity.
	Let's have a little bit of the manhood hour with a rather unusual guest, one of the smartest guys out there.
	Stay tuned.
	Thanks for watching.
	Stay safe.
	you you
	Thank you for watching!
	you the
	welcome their friends to the manhood our where we analyze we do a
	estimate of the situation the battleground the assault from the left
	on the classic values we hold so dear in our civilization expressly the assault on masculinity and it's related as
	well the attempt to negate to nullify womanhood as well
	This guest I think you're going to enjoy this.
	He's a regular guest on Matters Cultural and Political, but we've invited him for the deep dive on the Manhood Hour.
	None other than Razor Fist.
	Welcome to the Manhood Hour, Razor.
	Godspeed, I am glad to be here, and it's a subject near and dear to my heart!
	Well, I thought, you know, this kind of just came to me, you know, because we love to get your topical analysis, but you have such great historic perspective that I thought, wow, yeah, let's get him on this special that we do every Monday.
	So let's talk about that historic perspective first.
	Given that You know, this comes and goes, the self-hatred of the elites, great civilizations that seem to sabotage themselves from the inside.
	Put where we are right now with Dylan Mulvaney et al.
	and, you know, the rise of the turfs and everything else.
	How bad is this situation?
	Is this just a cyclical one or is it really bad when we see the ideological assault on manhood?
	It does feel a little bit late-stage Republic, don't it?
	I don't know about that.
	I remember when...
	Men were too busy having balls to shave them, but it's gotten pretty, pretty bad now.
	It seems like in 2023, between the drag shows and the protests against Ron DeSantis' perfectly common sense actions in the state of Florida, about the only way you can separate the men from the boys is with a crowbar, which is pretty alarming as well.
	And I feel, frankly, like This really is a lot of these actions, really.
	Not just the normalization of children being in close proximity of grown men dressed like women and such.
	I feel like a lot of it is really not so much to propagandize.
	I've explained this before.
	I think it was Solzhenitsyn who said, you know, we know they are lying, they know they're lying, and yet still they're lying.
	The purpose really, I think, is demoralization.
	It's not I made a video called The True Purpose of Propaganda, and I truly do hold to this.
	It's not so much to persuade.
	The true purpose of propaganda is to make you feel alone.
	To make you feel as if everyone else in the world accepts this lie as truth, and here you are as this lone reed bending against the wind.
	It's meant to isolate and prevent any possible political resistance from forming.
	I honestly think that's really what it comes down to.
	What is it?
	Who is that KGB defector whose video from the 80s is...
	Uri Besmanov.
	Yeah, so Uri Besmanov talks about, you know, this is the role of propaganda to fracture and make the society you're targeting feel atomized.
	And on top of that we have, you know, we have the effects of COVID and, you know, lock yourself behind your closed doors, live on social media.
	What is... So, to atomize, I get it.
	To make us feel like we're alone.
	But what is the end state?
	I mean, you have such a keen political sense, raise a fist.
	Is it really the destruction of the society in which they live?
	Because, you know, the Cold War, I'm a child of the Cold War.
	The Cold War is really easy because it's them over there.
	They want to destroy us, right?
	But we're talking about people here.
	We're talking about politicians who hate the country they lead.
	We're talking about You know, teachers who are teaching their charges that they are the problem if they have the wrong skin color.
	So is the end state anarchy?
	Or is it using chaos to acquire and maintain power?
	How self-destructive are these people?
	It really is the latter.
	At the end of the day, it's It is the destabilization of the society, the destabilization thereby of any conceivable resistance, for the accretion of power.
	It presents them with an opportunity in order to replace whatever the organizing principle was.
	You already see it, unfortunately, on the right.
	There's a book that was released by one of the people on the traditional Catholic right, and I have no problem with Catholics at all, but there has been this increasing tendency to believe that, well, if the left are employing this strong central state, then the right need to display the self-same attribute.
	And of course, the problem with that is that you're really just handing the keys to the opposition at that point, because You look at population and demographic figures.
	If you employ that, you're ultimately just going to hand the country over to the other side, because you're never going to have the electoral majorities in a lot of places in order to do that.
	Not getting, I think, a lot of these people that the Founding Fathers did not found America as a majoritarian regime, right?
	If they could have honestly established the country and safeguarded liberty, Without giving anyone the vote, I truly believe, from the writings of the Founding Fathers, a lot of them would, right?
	It really is about safeguarding liberty.
	So, given that you're so intimate with what they're doing, and the various permutations of this ideology from the Frankfurt School to Alinsky to BLM, What is the locus of power in a military sense?
	If we have to ask the question, what is the center of gravity in that Clausewitzian sense?
	For all of this, what is it?
	Is it the unnamed Inheritors of the Frankfurt School?
	Is it the social media gurus in Palo Alto?
	Is it the teacher training colleges?
	If you had to identify the thing that must be destroyed first politically for us to have a chance to claw back classic concepts of Western civilization, what is that one epicenter?
	First and foremost, and I believe that's why some of the most Fierce battles that have raged in the last several years have been in bizarre, seemingly non-sequitur quarters, such as entertainment, is actually the bread of the circuses.
	That's the first.
	They have to abolish any means of escape.
	This is why I made several videos, Don't Cry About the Culture, Become the Culture, Don't Complain About the... Because this is something that Antonio Gremski realized, and even Vladimir Lenin Realized.
	Gramsci realized from an Italian prison, I believe he was imprisoned by the fascists, a communist activist, and he was really the guy who was sort of the organizing force for a lot of the cultural revolution rhetoric and the so-called long march through the institutions.
	And his realization in Lenin's, I suppose, several years before that was, okay, Marx kind of lied, or he just didn't see the whole picture.
	The problem is not that... Capitalism is not going to kill itself, in other words.
	Because basically, people are distracted.
	People have an escape.
	As long as there's an escape hatch... They have the... What was the phrase?
	The false consciousness, right?
	Yes.
	So, as long as they're not constantly engaged with the struggle, then they're always going to have that escape hatch, and we won't be able to nail them to the wall, and we'll never be able to seize the levers of power.
	Capitalism will never collapse.
	And so what you're seeing right now is really a combination of assaults on a number of fronts, some more effective than others.
	You know, you destabilize, I guess, finance to some degree through what?
	ESG.
	And even ESG is somewhat financially compromised at this point.
	Some of the big ESG funds are losing money.
	Right.
	But the whole point really is you have to keep people constantly engaged with the struggle.
	And I think, you know, a lot of people who say we're way too locked into politics and so forth today, what they're really complaining about is everyone's locked into the struggle.
	And I think that's by design.
	I think a lot of people have an interest in keeping people constantly engaged in the political struggle, as it were, but keeping those lines of escape blocked off.
	Yeah.
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	Razor, this is one of my favorite questions because we have such a massive variation of answers.
	Some people said, well, many who were blessed said, well, it was my father.
	Others said it was heroes in Tom Clancy novels or, you know, we've had former SEALs say it was my, you know, training sergeant, my training officer at BUDS or what have you.
	For you, in your understanding, Of what it is to be a man.
	Who taught you the most?
	Where did you find the inspiration to say, yeah, that's what I want to be.
	My father was definitely a guiding light in that regard.
	I don't want to diminish his role.
	But as far as, like, the rugged, roll-up-your-sleeves masculinity kind of thing, you know, my father was a little bit more of an artist.
	He's a minister.
	He's not as, um... Why am I not surprised that Razorfist's dad is a preacher and a minister?
	Why am I not surprised?
	Music minister, but all the same, he has preached.
	But regardless, really the kind of guiding light in that sense was really more so my grandfather, who was... he sounded like Johnny Cash.
	I mean, his voice sounds exactly like Johnny Cash.
	Smoked like a chimney, drank to excess far too much, former race car driver.
	Wow!
	Yeah, and yet...
	Every time you would need him, he would... Most people would characterize him from the outside as a drunk, as being self-indulgent, but he would always be there.
	Whenever the family needed him for any reason.
	Oh, the roof needs to be done.
	Okay.
	Oh, we need to go fix the power over here.
	Oh, this outlet's got to be... He would be there in Two Shakes of a Lamb's Tale, and you almost didn't even have to ask.
	It was like he had a spider sense.
	He would instantly know.
	He was locked in there for every single thing.
	Worked hard.
	You know, when grandchildren had travails or whatever, he instantly stepped in and interceded.
	It was just...
	That to me was kind of the guidepost.
	He had all kinds of defects of character, no shortage of them.
	But as far as a guidepost for a man, that to me was a big one.
	And when he passed away, I simply tweeted, here lies a man on my Twitter.
	What was his name?
	Let's salute him.
	What was your grandfather's name?
	Paul.
	It was Paul.
	All right.
	Grandfather Paul.
	When he wasn't racing cars and fixing roofs, what was he doing for a living?
	I'm curious.
	He worked in a... I believe he was a mechanic towards the end.
	Yeah, he worked in like a warehouse.
	He was like an odd job guy.
	He was one of those guys, but he made good money somehow doing it.
	He'd work in warehouses and did machine shop stuff, and he was one of those guys, right?
	So talk to us about, let's put some words, let's put some adjectives, some characteristics on what you learned from him.
	So in addition to dependability, what other characteristics for you are the non-negotiables for being a man?
	What is Razorfist's definition of being a man?
	What kind of things do you have to be in addition to dependable like your grandfather?
	Yeah, I think more than dependable.
	Also, there's also an element of this is traditionally associated with females really, but like intuitive in a way.
	If he recognized that you wanted something or something was important to you, you would be alarmed at how he would just have immediate and ready recall of it and sense that it was something important to you, and that led to the reliability, really, in a lot of cases.
	Crazy thing that happened years ago as a small child.
	Again, he was in the family, considered the drunk or whatever, indulgent, And I had a band recital in elementary school, and, you know, I expect my other grandmother, waspy English grandmother, to be there, and I expect this one to be there, and that one to be there, and I look up and I see him just sitting there.
	I hadn't even told him, right?
	And this is the kind of thing that you would get.
	You would just mention something offhandedly and never think he would even remember it, and months later, through the haze of smoke and booze, he would somehow immediately recall it, and he would be there.
	Unbelievable.
	Just a gunslinger.
	That's fascinating.
	I haven't heard that before.
	The sense of, you know, the sixth sense, the intuition that we do associate with, you know, more the nurturing feminine.
	Anything else?
	You know, if we take Grandpa Paul out of the equation, when you think about what's lacking or what they're assaulting, what are the characteristics?
	Because I think you've got a graphic novel coming out soon.
	Tell us about the graphic novel.
	Oh yes, the Ghost of the Badlands.
	That's, you know, look, growing up in Arizona in the desert, westerns were a big thing out here at one time.
	Not so much anymore now that it's all californicated and gentrified.
	But we're bringing it back.
	It's sort of a gothic western in the vein of High Plains Drifter or Pale Rider.
	Tell us something about the Badlands and what a man has to be in the Ghost of the Badlands.
	Oh yes.
	Well, I mean, the frontier spirit, the idea that In the absence of a law, in the absence that the story is set in a time when Arizona is a mere territory and there isn't formal law in large sections of it.
	And so a man has to recognize that there's an organizing principle beyond the law.
	That there's an order, there's a way of things, and that if you as a man follow through on your end and hold others to that standard, they will rise to that standard and you will as well.
	Long before laws existed, long before there were cities, there were communities.
	You see that in Deadwood, you see that in Rome in the time of Nero, you see that anytime there's an absence of law and plenty of people with a profit motive, you will see the establishment of a community.
	Are we talking about an internalization and an expression of a code?
	That there must be a code?
	Yeah, if you want to call it the frontier spirit, the trailblazer, whatever, those are the kind of men and the kind of people who built America during the frontier period, during the early colonial period.
	These are people who were fighting with the elements as much as one another, and the natives in some cases, mother nature.
	And so with all of those vagaries, you had to be rigorously specific about your morality and how you expected to be treated.
	If you expect it not to be taken advantage of immediately, right?
	That to me is really like of the essence of American masculinity, as it were.
	That's the sort of spirit that built America, as it were.
	Check it out.
	It's closed now because they raised far too much money.
	They raised 700% of what they wanted to raise on the Indiegogo for the book, the graphic novel.
	But there's a little video if you go to Indiegogo and plug in Ghost of the Badlands.
	I'm very impressed.
	I can't wait for it to come out to celebrate those values, the unwritten code.
	What is the launch date?
	Raise a fist.
	It is going to be, well, tentatively, it's going to be in the fall.
	The artist is here in Arizona right now doing research.
	He's actually going to all these Old West towns because he's from New Jersey.
	He's never been out here.
	So he's going to all these places and his mind is being blown by all of these Old West ghost towns and such.
	Fabulous.
	That's what we're doing right now.
	It looks like it's going to be fall and probably be shipping in the winter.
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	When it comes to rugged individualism, when it comes to the idea that, you know, the frontier spirit, the pioneer spirit, talk to me about how concerned you are Raise a fist with what we've witnessed here in America in the last three years.
	So, I chose America.
	I wasn't blessed to be born here.
	I'm a naturalized citizen.
	And I still think it's the greatest nation on God's green earth.
	We've got to work hard to reclaim it.
	But what happened under COVID was like a punch to the gut.
	That, you know, little fascists like Fauci said, close down your private business if you're not Amazon, right?
	And then Walmart.
	And then Americans complied.
	Except for, you know, a gym owner in New Jersey, a restauranteur in California.
	Tens of thousands of Americans said, you know, we don't need to feed our families.
	We're going to shut down.
	How did that happen in America?
	Where did that pioneer spirit of courage, of valor, go for two years under COVID?
	Yeah, it's alarming.
	I think it's the ghost of a period that, ironically, was headed up by a guy who fancied himself a rugged individualist and a rugged outdoorsman, and in some ways was.
	And that would be Theodore Roosevelt, who had a lot of great and admirable qualities as a president, but was a statist, and part of the, definitely, spearhead of the progressive era.
	And you saw the beginnings of When there's some great travail that afflicts all, we need daddy government to come and fix it.
	And unfortunately, that would ultimately lead to...
	Interference in the economy at the beginning of, you know, a recession that could have just been a recession, but wound up being a little thing we know called the Great Depression after the government got involved, was beginning to recover on its own.
	And then all the laws that had been passed to address the Great Depression came into effect because there's a bit of a delay and suddenly, oh, we had a depression.
	You see this again and again, when people are affected by some sort of... This actually happened incidentally in the heart of the progressive era, as you know, the Spanish flu.
	Right.
	And the measures to deal with the Spanish flu, there was a brief period there where it was the delight of the American press to, during the heart of COVID, compare what was going on to the measures taken during the Spanish flu.
	Oh, but they did this.
	They shut down this sports season.
	They shut down You notice those reports tended to trickle off a little bit as the months wore on because, spoiler alert, the Spanish flu measures only lasted a few months.
	It wasn't even like, it was maybe a year, maybe a little bit longer than that.
	But honestly, like, it was pretty quick when everybody stopped wearing masks and so forth.
	You see this again.
	It's sort of the ghost of the progressive era, unfortunately.
	A period where we handed over an unprecedented amount of personal liberty and autonomy Do you think it would happen again if there's like a COVID-24?
	Do you think people would just genuflect at the altar of big government?
	I worry that they've taken—if it happened too immediately after this one, I worry that people are too soured on the governmental response to comply en masse.
	I think there would be in the major cities, in the deep blue, those cities,
	I think you would have automatic compliance in large numbers.
	But honestly, in the hinterland and the most of the country, I really don't see it happening.
	Because the government's credibility and the CDC's credibility, to say nothing of the WHO,
	is shot.
	It is Swiss cheese.
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	Okay, so I'm going to ask you at the end, it's usually my last question to our guests, but I ask them whether they're pessimists or optimists when it comes to what we're witnessing, or whether they go long or short on America and on our civilization.
	But let's talk about some of the positive things.
	We've got, I think, up to $14 billion that Target has lost.
	Bud Light has gone from the third most popular beer in the world to, you know, people won't even wash their cars with it.
	So there seems to be a pushback against the insanity, the most radical forms of the assault on manhood and femininity.
	However, I'm very curious for your input on this question.
	Jordan Peterson has done a great service, and it's clear by, you know, the tens of millions of books he's sold on, you know, clean your room, take your responsibility, stand up straight, that he's filling a need for a role model that young men aren't getting anywhere else.
	However, I see that as an initial step.
	It's like a baby step.
	We need to go to phase two of this.
	What does phase two look like in terms of the reassertion?
	I mean, I look at my son who's graduated college a year ago, and the stories he told me of the way handsome men Have to walk around on eggshells in college just in case some woman changes their mind about what happened last night.
	You're just destroying the relationship between male and female.
	Where do we go next?
	What's the next phase in trying to redress the balance, Razor?
	I think it redresses itself in a lot of ways.
	You're already seeing a little bit of A lot of the institutions that imposed a lot of these have,
	as I just mentioned, exhausted a lot of credibility. You see less observation of these things. I've
	never seen before so much pushback For Pride Month.
	The last several, you know, little turns of the wheel, right?
	Pride Month was pretty well adhered to, but now not so much.
	And I mean, let's be real, do we really need an entire month to celebrate Anything at all.
	The anniversary of this country barely gets a single evening.
	I have to celebrate a stranger's choice of orifice for an entire month.
	And I think people are getting keen to that, honestly.
	And you're starting to see that.
	The capacity that people are beginning to demonstrate to be able to question Some of these things is pretty incredible.
	Although, again, we have to be careful that we don't play into sort of the destabilization tactic a little bit.
	I explain that because, you know, I think you're absolutely right.
	I mean, I look at kids apparently spontaneously in a high school in Massachusetts say, you know, my pronouns are USA.
	I'm not doing this transgender garbage.
	Kids in Massachusetts?
	That's a good sign.
	But talk to us about the destabilization ploy.
	Well yeah, so a good example of this is, and I think even Yuri Beshmanov talked about this a little bit, is sometimes they'll present you with something hoping that there's pushback because that keeps everybody off balance, right?
	The point is to get you to question.
	For example, I can't decide which holiday is faker, Juneteenth or Toyotathon, right?
	And the whole point, really, is to get people to question their history, to constantly not really have a strong basis upon which to be.
	And of course, the problem is there is objective truth in this world, and we do need to understand that objective truth.
	So I do think, by way of your point, I think the next step really is, okay, there is a truth, whatever you want to say, you know, Monday is Monday, Tuesday is Tuesday, At some point, we need to replace that questioning with, okay, here's the actual truth here.
	Because otherwise, you wind up with Juneteenth celebrations in Chicago.
	I don't know if you saw that sort of ordeal.
	Yes, we did.
	We did 20 people shorter at one event.
	Not in one weekend, at one event.
	No, they said they expected thousands.
	I didn't realize they just meant the body count.
	So, you know, on the destabilization point and the gaslighting, I always point out to people, you know, RT, which is, you know, Russia Today, which is literally funded by the Kremlin, the tagline for that channel, it's very interesting, the tagline for RT is, question more.
	Not, here are the answers.
	Not, we will provide you the facts.
	No, we just want you to screw with your head.
	Just keep asking questions.
	No certitude.
	That's propaganda.
	That's Yuri Bezmenov.
	If you had to write, if you were tasked by President Trump as the next Secretary of Education before we get rid of the department, what is the curriculum?
	What are the two or three Non-negotiable things that must be taught to the 10-year-old boys, the 12-year-old boys.
	How do we start to teach them what it means to be a man?
	Where would you begin with that curriculum?
	Motorhead studies.
	No.
	No, I would say... Watch Cobra every night, right?
	Stallone 101.
	No, I think a really important part of the curriculum... I actually did a whole video about this called, um, What We Can Learn From Marcus Tullius Cicero.
	Because Cicero is considered, like, an orator.
	He's a quote machine today.
	It's one of my favorite historical figures, but one of his big contributions to America through people like George Mason and all the founding fathers who idolized Cicero was, he was their conception of what education is supposed to be.
	He was sort of, if you want to call it a Renaissance man, he was the guy who who believed that education should teach you not so much specific facts to memorize, but how to think, how to use your cognitive capacity.
	And so I would advocate a completely different education system.
	I would advocate a return to the Ciceronian education system, which we used to have in this country.
	But all around the time we had a public education system, that kind of went away.
	Well, that was the point.
	That wasn't kind of went away.
	That was the point of Dewey and everybody else, wasn't it?
	Yeah.
	No, no, absolutely.
	And so that I think would be number one.
	And number two, and this is something that doesn't get taught.
	It's really germane to my points about the frontier period and how communities are built versus how cities can be established from the top down, but can't really thrive.
	Look at California City, California for a ready examination of that phenomenon.
	But Civics.
	We used to teach civics in school.
	We don't teach civics anymore.
	People don't even realize how their government is structured or how much power they have to act on a local level and how that actually filters up at the top.
	You're the second person to say this when I asked for specific curricular ideas and they just said, go back to basics, the classics, Cicero and civics.
	Although I have to say there's only one guest I have on my show and I've had thousands.
	Who in the same two minutes can quote Stallone and Cicero.
	And that's why we love Razorfist.
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	Okay, last question.
	When you look at everything that's happened in the last 20 years, the instantiation, the implementation of Gramscian long march through the institutions, the capturing of the culture, everything except talk radio, can you remain an optimist for America and for Western civilization?
	Where are you mentally when you look at where we're at?
	I'm—no, I'm not a pessimist.
	I can have an element of the realist.
	I would prefer to frame it that way sometimes.
	But for the most part, I'm optimistic.
	And most of that is because I believe a lot of people's realization can pivot.
	And we've seen more and more of that in recent years.
	More than I've ever seen before in my lifetime, and I, believe it or not, have been covering politics for a long, long time.
	I started out doing political radio in 2003, so it's been a long time that I've been aware of these things.
	I have seen more people question long-held suppositions about the world and about their worldview.
	I've seen more of that questioning occur in the last five to six years
	as a result of just people witnessing things happening.
	Again, you have to arrive at the realization though.
	I talked previously on one of our previous appearances about how the Republican Party
	really is the 19th century liberal party.
	It's like, it's statist at its core.
	And until Trump supporters recognized that like, you are Hogan's heroes, and traditional Republican leadership are Colonel Clink, You will fail to effect an escape from their uniquely odious brand of starchy 19th century statism.
	This is a takeover of the party in a lot of ways.
	And these realizations, though, can turn on a dime, and that's where the optimism comes from, honestly.
	Wow.
	Stallone, Cicero, and Hogan's Heroes.
	Only here on The Manhood Hour with RazörFist.
	Absolutely superb.
	All right, let's celebrate his analysis.
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	I can't wait for its release.
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	Every single one of them I found edifying.
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