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May 25, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: This livestream works, unlike DeSantis' Twitter Space

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	♪♪ Ron DeSantis clearly steps into the race in the number two slot, but it's a distant number two.
	And what Ron DeSantis does not have at this point is a fanatically loyal base of people who are as fanatically loyal to him as they are to Donald Trump.
	Trump's base is unmovable.
	In fact, Trump's base is growing.
	And in large part, the more the media and the government, but that's now become all one, the more they try to discredit And we find out about the lies and the criminal activity they've done to him and against him, I think the stronger it makes him.
	And there are many of us who would say, if we let the media and the government destroy Donald Trump's cannabis-y, then do we not think they'll do the same thing to any other Republicans?
	It's a very simple observation and he's right.
	I like Governor Huckabee.
	I've always liked him.
	But every time I see him, I like him a little bit more.
	That was the former governor talking about the big announcement, which wasn't really big because everybody knew he was going to run.
	But it was different, first time ever, that somebody has gone on social media to make that announcement, and it was strange.
	I'm going to try and analyze it, objectively, as former strategist to President Trump.
	Hey, Mr. G.
	Am I pretty objective?
	Would you say I'm pretty objective?
	I would say so, yes.
	All right.
	If I say something in the next nine minutes that is too subjective, just whisper in my ear or get Eric to whisper in my ear.
	So here's the issue with Last9.
	Number one, as we said already, it's an audio-only platform.
	Yes, Elon Musk is going to, allegedly, build Twitter into this universal app that will be a combination of where you buy everything, it's going to be your Amazon.com, where you go for social media news like Twitter, like Facebook, it's going to be the replacement to YouTube where you have video postings, where you have articles like Substack, but it is still not that.
	You can't post live videos in the way that you can on other platforms.
	Twitter space is huge.
	I mean, last night we had what, you know?
	Huge audience for the Twitter space, but it kept crashing.
	He didn't actually come online until about 30 minutes in.
	And it's audio.
	If you're launching a campaign, you've got to make it so people can make clips of it.
	Your campaign staff, your supporters, your media surrogates.
	You can't do that if it's audio.
	And then secondly, if you're running for the highest position in the nation, actually in the world, You should sound a little bit excited about it.
	And this is what Ron DeSantis sounded like last night.
	Cut to.
	Well, I am running for President of the United States to lead our great American combat.
	Look, we know our country's going in the wrong direction.
	We see it with our eyes.
	And we feel it in our bones.
	Our southern borders collapse.
	Drugs are pouring into the country.
	Our cities are being hollowed out by spiking crime.
	The federal government's making it harder for the average family to make ends meet and to attain and maintain a middle class lifestyle.
	And our president Well, he lacks vigor, flounders in the face of our nation's challenges, and he takes his cues from the woke mob.
	I don't think it has to be this way.
	American decline is not inevitable.
	It is a choice.
	And we should choose a new direction, a path that will lead to American revitalization.
	As soon as I heard those opening remarks, And I saw what my former colleague at Breitbart, Raheem Kassam, who'll be on the show momentarily, said.
	I couldn't have agreed more.
	Raheem posted a tweet saying he's reading an op-ed.
	And that's what it sounded like.
	It reads like a teleprompter script, like an opinion piece that's going to be put in the Wall Street Journal.
	There needs to be passion.
	Why I'm doing this?
	Why I'm leaving Florida?
	Why I want to run for the presidency?
	Why I'm taking on the left?
	And the other thing isn't, correct me if I'm wrong Jeff, I don't think President Trump was mentioned once on that Twitter space.
	No, not at all.
	And a lot of people are saying he's kind of pretending that he's not running against Trump.
	But that's who he's got to defeat in the primary.
	By a lot.
	Because he's down by a lot.
	Yeah, and you don't mention him.
	Again, for me, that's not a tactical issue.
	That's an honor issue.
	Well, I don't know.
	The whole thing has been different.
	deciding that they're just gonna ignore Trump. I don't know why they think he's
	gonna attack him less maybe but it makes zero sense to me.
	But at some point doesn't he have to say something about President Trump?
	Well I don't know the whole thing has been different. See I even when he
	announced last night in the Twitter spaces I didn't think it was that bad of an idea
	because he's been getting killed with personality and all this type of stuff
	so I thought he would come on like an actual Twitter space where it's
	conversation.
	Just go back and forth like a normal person.
	And then he did the opposite of that.
	It's just, as they like to talk about Trump with the unforced errors all the time, this guy has been committing them left and right the last six weeks.
	And they actually called this a debate.
	I mean, I've been on lots of Twitter spaces with crazy libs going back and forth.
	That's a little spicy sometimes.
	Even when they signed off, the guy who was running it for Elon said, DeSantis actually said it as well, said, and I really enjoyed this debate.
	What debate, Eric?
	Oh, I guess their debate was with the Twitter servers, apparently.
	That was their biggest debate.
	With the Twitter servers.
	This is the level of debate.
	So there's a radio host out there who works, I think he works for The Blaze as well, called Steve Dees, who is, you know, doesn't like President Trump.
	He's clearly on DeSantis' side.
	This is one of the questions on the Twitter space that was meant to be for anybody to challenge this person.
	Cut 13.
	A question is a follow-up to you, Governor, on this very issue with immigration.
	We have heard a lot over the years.
	Lock her up.
	Drain the swamp.
	Gonna build a beautiful wall.
	Mexico's gonna pay for it.
	And crowds cheered.
	And everybody loved it.
	And brands got built.
	And nothing got done.
	What is the bottom line assurance that you can make to the people that are listening right now, all over the world, and all over the country, that you can actually do the agenda that you just articulated, when others tweeted about it and talked about it, but then couldn't actually follow through?
	It's a great question.
	That is like the, why are you so great question.
	Why are you so great, Governor DeSantis?
	And to Dease, Dees, that was like a little girl in the Clicket High School.
	And you have the temerity, as a radio host, to say, a brand was built but nothing was done.
	I called somebody out for saying the same thing on the Twitter space I went on afterwards, which was a huge one.
	I mean, it was a really big one.
	Not as big as the Santas, but big.
	And this one actually worked.
	To say nothing was done.
	You're a hack.
	You're a liar.
	Biggest economy in the history of mankind.
	Immigration.
	A trickle.
	Illegal immigration.
	The caliphate of ISIS destroyed.
	Lowest unemployment for minorities since record-keeping began.
	Lowest unemployment for women since the 1960s.
	Russia under control.
	Iran under control.
	Little Kim under control.
	No results?
	This is the problem.
	I don't mind having a primary.
	The more the merrier.
	But we need honest people.
	You want to be better than President Trump?
	You're not going to do it by lying about the four years of his presidency.
	And you're not going to take out the king without talking about the king.
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	but then you heard he wants to do it with trump vivid He gave an interview yesterday or the day before basically rescinding his endorsement for DeSantis.
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	Oh, it could have been Dan Bishop.
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	experienced in the past.
	There was multiple steps that were slow-walked at the direction of this Department of Justice.
	Had you ever encountered that before?
	I have not, no.
	These deviations from normal process, and each and every time, it seemed to always benefit the subject.
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	helped make Brexit possible. He's now the founder, the editor-in-chief of the National Pulse and I
	think he was listening to a certain Twitter space yesterday.
	Rahim Kassam, it's been a minute, welcome back to America First. Thank you for having me. All
	right so I popped up on my feed immediately as I was trying to collect my thoughts about
	this Twitter space.
	You tweeted it out.
	It was absolutely bloody perfect.
	Oh my lord, DeSantis is just reading from an op-ed on this Twitter space launch.
	Number one, it's an audio space.
	Number two, it was like so dry.
	Is this the worst presidential launch in American presidential history?
	I mean, it's up there.
	It's definitely up there.
	I've said for some weeks now that the people around DeSantis, you know, you've got to park what you think about the man and the candidate for a second because what you're talking about is the campaign and the campaign strategy.
	And more often than not, it's scarcely the principle that actually develops the day-to-day strategy.
	Meaning it's really the guy at the top.
	Correct.
	And so you've got to look around DeSantis at the moment, and I've said for weeks and weeks, the people around him have been committing campaign malpractice for months now.
	Explain.
	They're missing open goals, they're scoring own goals, they are really It just seems to me amateurs at this.
	And I know some of them, and I've worked with some of them, and let me tell you something, I wouldn't hire any of them.
	Perfectly nice people, but I wouldn't hire any of them.
	And what you saw last night was the culmination of, I think, a thought process that we know is, in a phrase, trying to be too clever by half, right?
	They think they can sort of, you know, we're going to be trendy and cool and disintermediate and hang out with Billionaires at the Four Seasons, and then billionaires on Twitter Space, and then they'll go on Billionaire Fox News, you know, Murdoch's channel, and it just doesn't work.
	And it literally doesn't work, right?
	Last night you saw, yes, hundreds of thousands of people were trying to enter that stream.
	But if you think about it, when you do a full-blown campaign launch, you get tens of millions of eyeballs across all the networks and across all of everywhere that carries it.
	So they opted for a smaller audience Still flubbed it, and on the back end all they've got is negative headlines off this.
	If DeSantis doesn't fire some of those people from that campaign after this flub, then what would he do in government?
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Such a good point.
	All right, let's just cut to the chase.
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	We hear this.
	Address this one thing for me.
	It's like straight out of the DNC talking point shop.
	I hear it all the time from people who are allegedly Republicans.
	They could be bots.
	I don't know.
	It's like, he can win the primary, but Trump can't win the general.
	What's your response to that level of analysis, Rahim?
	The people who believe that have never run any sort of campaign ever.
	Yes, the campaign staff might use it as a talking point, but believe me, some of them still call me and they tell me they don't believe it.
	And they don't believe it because it's not true.
	Elections are not won, you know, by having necessarily the, I don't know, cookie cutter candidate, right?
	Elections are won at a very microscopic level.
	They're won in towns and counties in certain states, Where it can be 2,000 or 20,000 votes that need flipping in any given county to make that work.
	Their macro-level addiction to this talking point tells you that they've never actually done the nuts and bolts of campaigning.
	The nuts and bolts of campaigning actually involve going out there and talking to real people and interacting with them in places that you might not feel comfortable because you're not from there and you don't know your surroundings and you haven't come across this type of person before and you don't know what motivates them and you don't know what their kids are interested in.
	You don't know what they're learning.
	At school, and it's this arrogance, it's arrogance to suggest that, you know, a voter can be told at this stage, by the way, that they are not going to consider any other candidate, you know, other than theirs.
	I think it's patronizing.
	I also happen to think it's wildly false.
	They happen to think it's wildly false.
	And the other thing about that talking point is this.
	You know, Donald Trump goes up in front of crowds of thousands, tens of thousands, in the pouring rain,
	in the snow, in the wind.
	I've been at all of these rallies.
	You know, in the hot burning sun, and he talks to ordinary people,
	and he lures ordinary people in just with his charm, his affability, his charisma.
	The complete counterpoint of a campaign that we saw yesterday, right?
	Hold up with your big dollar donors in the Four Seasons, hold up with your big dollar donors on Twitter spaces,
	and hold up in the studio for your big dollar media backers.
	You couldn't paint an anti-populist campaign better than this one.
	So why is Mr. I'm-Just-Trump-But-Better running an anti-populist campaign?
	And people see that.
	It doesn't stack up in their minds.
	Right.
	I'm going to tweet that out in the break.
	I'm going to credit you.
	I'm going to tag you.
	Brilliant summary, of course, because it's Rahim.
	This is the anti-populist campaign.
	I've got one more question to ask you.
	We're out of time.
	Stay on.
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	Well, that's superb.
	One thing I didn't get time for.
	So, he needs to fire some of his team.
	What's the one thing that Mar-a-Lago needs to do differently or more of?
	If you had to say one thing.
	Yeah, I'd put him out there more right now.
	At rallies or at retail stuff like buying the pizzas and the burgers?
	No, I think stick to where he's the most comfortable.
	It's rallies, it's on the stage, it's giving the speeches.
	And then the other talking point that's so hackneyed is, you've got to stop talking about 2020, you've got to look forward.
	What's your response to that talking point?
	Well look, I think the response to that was our original response after 2020, right?
	Which is if you don't fix elections, you're never going to win an election again.
	I hope the other side recognizes that.
	I hope every Republican candidate understands that.
	If they don't, what are they even doing in the race, right?
	Might as well run as a Democrat if they want the status quo.
	The other part of it is, you know, there's a way to do it where it's non-grievance.
	There's a way to do it where it's restoration.
	This is encompassed within MAGA.
	It's make America great again, and elections count in that.
	No, I love that.
	Non-restoration, not grievance.
	That's perfect.
	All right, dude, you give me some stuff to tweet out.
	I'm going to tag you.
	That was excellent, buddy.
	Got it.
	Keep crushing it.
	All right.
	Absolutely.
	Thanks.
	Yes, brother.
	Not non... Not grievance.
	Restoration.
	Right.
	OK.
	Oh, did you get my text about 4?
	He wanted to talk to you offline.
	Uh, which one?
	Four.
	Oh, okay.
	Turn the mics off.
	Okay, turn the mics off.
	Give me four.
	I'm going to be a little bit more aggressive.
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	Let's go to Atlanta, line three.
	Hello?
	Is that Ron?
	Yes, it is.
	All right.
	What's your comment?
	What's your question?
	Well, my comment is, I really wish that Trump would be more welcoming to DeSantis joining the group.
	I think a healthy primary should be welcomed by everybody, and I really feel like... You know only one person can win a primary, right, Ron?
	Yes, of course, doctor, and I love your show, and I have voted for Trump twice.
	He's got my vote again.
	If he wins the primary, 100%.
	But I feel like, up to a degree, he never has a positive message about the future.
	He did have his ten cities that he wanted to build.
	I love that.
	Well, clearly you haven't been listening to his rallies lately.
	No, sir.
	I listen to every rally.
	Well, that's not true.
	He talks about the future.
	He talks about getting America back to where it should be.
	He even did that when he announced from Mar-a-Lago in November.
	So I suggest you keep watching those campaigns and take off whichever goggles you are filtering them through.
	Thank you, my friend.
	David Phoenix, Line One.
	Hey, Dr. Gorka.
	I know you're a big movie fan, but, you know, this whole thing with DeSantis being in the race is absolutely ridiculous.
	You have these spineless conservatives.
	So, I wanted to give you a little bit of an analogy, if you recall.
	In Godfather, when Michael took over, and what did he say to Tom Hagen?
	He said, Hagen, you're out.
	Right?
	Right.
	He said, and why am I out?
	And what did they say?
	Things are going to get a little bit messy.
	Right?
	And what's interesting is that at the time, when you watch Godfather for the first time, you don't really understand why Hagen is out.
	You know there's a dynamic between Michael and Tom Hagen, but at the end of the day, the point is that war is what's needed.
	And when I mean war, we need Trump to go in for the last four years.
	The reality is there's a war coming.
	fed BS by all these spineless conservatives and all of these you know
	sheep you know obviously wolf in cheap clothing telling him to run the reality
	is there's a war coming the only man that's fit is Trump DeSantis is gonna
	wait and let him get involved like Hagan did in Godfather 2 Yeah, because you're right, David.
	The four years between 24 and 28, it's going to be messy because of the levels of corruption that have built themselves, inveigled themselves into federal government, from the IRS to the DOJ to the FBI to the CIA.
	It's got to be somebody who has nothing to lose, somebody who can't be re-elected because they've already served four terms, and it's got to be a bulldozer with a flamethrower welded on the top.
	President Trump's team had a response to DeSantis' Twitter space yesterday.
	It made Eric very happy because it's rather amusing.
	Cut one!
	Let's go.
	That I'm proud to be an American.
	And I won't forget the men who died.
	We are kind of melting the servers.
	And I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free.
	...to freedom, and he's willing to put his money where his mouth is,
	upset the narrative he's involved in, imposed on us by our government.
	Who gave that right to me? Can I gladly stand up?
	Have Governor DeSantis make this a...
	USA! USA! USA!
	We're just trying to get it going.
	Just a very factual comparison side by side of President Trump in November at Mar-a-Lago announcing the power of the audience, the reaction of the audience, the theme tune of the rallies, and then the first 30 minutes spliced in there of yesterday's Twitter Space, non-functioning, echoing, melting down whatever servers they couldn't access or didn't have the capacity.
	It's a very simple demonstration.
	If you can't even Have an effective launch?
	Why should you be trusted to be president?
	President Trump has been president for four years.
	But you can't even launch a campaign?
	That's embarrassing.
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	There was someone who tweeted, like, a little poll on, like, when do you think DeSantis will drop out?
	The options like, after Iowa, after New Hampshire, after Super Tuesday.
	I quote tweeted it and said, after he loses the Florida primary.
	Oh, can you put a poll up on the site?
	Can you turn that up, please, guy?
	What's up?
	Did DeSantis' Twitter launch convince you to support him?
	Oh, that's the poll, okay.
	Yeah.
	Alright.
	Do we have Bernie up?
	Oh, he's calling back.
	Bad connection issues.
	Are you doing an embed here?
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	Somebody I trust implicitly.
	Somebody I've worked with in the White House said that we have to have the next guest on my show.
	And as a result, I'm delighted to do so.
	He is running for the U.S.
	Senate.
	His name is Bernie Marino.
	Bernie, welcome to America First!
	Well, thank you for having me, Dr. Gorka.
	So you're a very successful businessman, as I understand it.
	Why on earth would you want to run for the Senate out of Ohio?
	Are you crazy?
	Well, anybody who's a business person or entrepreneur has a little bit of crazy in them.
	That's part of the DNA.
	But the reality is, Dr. Gorka, as you well know, our choice is either to get into the fight or to let the country loose on this radical left agenda that we're seeing them take over.
	And I, for one, as somebody who came to this country legally from Bogota, Colombia, This country gave me every opportunity in the world to succeed, and I can't sit by and watch this country go down the drain.
	And it's going down the drain because we have career politicians, people who are insiders, who have no record of accomplishment, who've never been accountable for anything, that go down to Washington D.C.
	and are destroying our country.
	I'm not going to let them do that.
	Alright, you're a legal immigrant to this nation.
	Tell us your story.
	What did you build here by the sweat of your brow in America?
	So about 18 years ago, I got a phone call from a car company that said they had one of their worst performing dealerships in the country.
	It was in the west side of Cleveland.
	I sold every possession I had in my life.
	I took the largest loans I could possibly take.
	In fact, my mom even let me mortgage our home, as long as she charged me a spread, by the way, to be able to buy this dealership.
	And I bought that little dealership, turned it into one of the largest dealer groups in the country.
	I took it from selling four cars a month to a company that sold 20,000 cars a year.
	And we did really well, employed a lot of people.
	I sold that business over the last four years.
	I started a technology company that's really innovative, which uses blockchain technology to make car titles digital, and just sold my stake in that company, because I believe if you go to D.C., you shouldn't have any conflicts of interest or entanglement.
	The Biden family doesn't agree with you there.
	They think getting checks from the Chinese, the Russians and the Ukrainians and the Romanians, that's fine.
	Why is it, you understand America, but help me out, there's a very successful businessman who's now running for the Senate out of Ohio, BernieMoreno.com, that's BernieMoreno.com.
	Why do so many CEOs think that politics doesn't matter and that what they've built can't be taken away from them?
	Well, they're starting to wake up to that.
	So I actually had a great breakfast for business leaders here in Cincinnati this morning, and that exact topic, Dr. Gorka, came up.
	And a time where business leaders just said, hey, we're only going to focus on our business, especially private business owners.
	Those days are over, because at the end of the day, this entire system is being taken away from us.
	This idea that we can build something through hard work, through dedication, through perseverance, Your reaction as an immigrant to what we've witnessed on the border in the last two years?
	is being stripped away from the left and there's more and more business owners,
	especially of small and medium-sized businesses, that are really waking up to their responsibility
	to get engaged. Your reaction as an immigrant to what we've witnessed on the border in the
	last two years, what do you think of the Biden open border policy? Oh, it's disgusting.
	It's an assault.
	It's an insult to everybody who followed the process, who came here illegally.
	The idea that the Mexican drug cartels are the ones determining who comes into this country or not is insane.
	We have all kinds of backdoor amnesty deals being made at the border in the millions of people, you know, 5 million people since Biden's become president.
	It's just a travesty.
	It's one of the main motivators that's made me run for office.
	Because, as you know, Dr. Gorka, this isn't just Democrats that are allowing this.
	This is Democrats and some Republicans that are allowing this.
	And it's totally and completely treasonous and unacceptable.
	Yeah.
	There are even some governors who are not prepared to do what is necessary.
	Republican governors who could be doing much, much more.
	The website is BernieMoreno.com.
	Follow him on Twitter as well, at Bernie Moreno.
	What is your message right now?
	You're talking to about 3.5 million people across the country, people in Ohio as well.
	But what is your message to them?
	Why should they support you in your race for the U.S.
	Senate?
	It's simple.
	If you want a career politician and insider, that's not me.
	If you want somebody who's an outsider to the system, somebody who's going to go down there to massively change DC, somebody who has a track record of accomplishment, that understands accountability, understands having to make trade-offs, and that is doing this for public service.
	This country has given me more riches than I would have ever imagined.
	I have a great and wonderful life, but this is my opportunity to serve my country.
	And because I wasn't born here, Dr. Gorka, I can never be President of the United States, which will be my superpower.
	I'll be the one out of 100 senators that isn't visualizing themselves living in the White House.
	I'm going to go down there to serve the state of Ohio and serve America to make this country better.
	That's funny.
	What is it, Jeff?
	We only allow two senators on the show, right?
	Is it two or three?
	Blackburn and Vance.
	Vance, right.
	And the only reason I do that is because all the rest of them think they're gonna be president, and I find it so arrogant!
	This guy can't be president!
	That's another reason to vote for him.
	You got my support buddy, BernieMoreno.com and at Bernie Moreno, this is America First, your calls next.
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	I mean, such a great thing to do as an American running for the American presidency.
	When even Fox doesn't like... That might have been worse than the Twitter spaces.
	was pretty bad yeah title for that the one
	I'm running for the Senate because I can't be president.
	Is that silly?
	That's great.
	Or shall we say, I'm an immigrant and what Biden's doing at the border is a disgrace.
	I like that.
	Yeah, that's good.
	Yeah, you're right.
	It was Dan Bishop I was watching, not Kennedy.
	Why did I mix those two up?
	That's weird.
	Did-did-did-did-did-did.
	What else?
	What else?
	It's just... And yeah, as I've said before, like, this is all revealing the true colors of so many people in the conservative sphere.
	But Rahim's analysis was so good.
	I mean, he's just... the people around him, the fact he listens to them, it's just... They don't understand anything outside of politics.
	No.
	That's the group that it's... They don't understand Americans.
	It doesn't matter, they won't even get it.
	Even if you tried to teach it to them.
	It's occurred to me too.
	DeSantis is largely outsourcing his messaging to these influencers.
	These Cardillos and Pedro Gonzaleses.
	It's all the stuff he's afraid to say.
	Exactly.
	It's a typical politician.
	Yes.
	But then you got Trump.
	He's very much.
	The most awesome pipes in Doc Radio.
	Sebastian Gorka.
	Yours aren't too shabby either, Deep Voice Dave.
	We're going to go to your calls, but I want to know what all of you think about last night and the big announcement that we all knew was coming.
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	Let's go to Chuck in Richmond, line two.
	Hey, Dr. G. Yeah, that Twitter thing with DeSantis last night, if I didn't know any better, I thought that was a Saturday Night Live sketch.
	It was ridiculous.
	Wasn't very impressive, was it, Chuck?
	No, not at all.
	But the only thing that has me concerned about President Trump And his running and his time and everything is... How will he do his rallies over Zoom from a jail cell if he just got gang raped that morning?
	Do you think he'd have a problem doing it?
	Well, you know, it's people like you who fantasize about gang rape.
	Why are you a pervert, Chuck?
	Why do you even think about gang rape?
	Is that your fantasy, Chuck?
	Would you like to be raped in prison?
	Go to hell, you sad little...
	Hello, it's Lois.
	And I'm so glad to be able to speak with you.
	I really admire you.
	But what I called for was DeSantis.
	Does he not have a Republican Senate?
	And a Republican House of Representatives in Florida.
	Well, he changed the Constitution of Florida to make sure he could run for the presidency.
	Why are you asking?
	Because what's he going to do if he gets to D.C.
	and he's got to face all those Democrats in the Senate and the House?
	It doesn't matter.
	It's all about ego, Lois.
	Well, I'm not I'm not really a fan of his for president.
	I think he's way too early.
	I am a firm Trump supporter.
	By the way, I am going to vote for Bernie Marino when we get the chance.
	Good!
	God bless him.
	But I do think that this is just not his time.
	I don't think, I really don't think that he has what it takes to face Yeah, I think he doesn't even want to do what needs to be done.
	That's the biggest problem.
	There's only one person in America who can serve one term.
	That's President Trump.
	He doesn't need to get re-elected, doesn't have to worry about getting re-elected.
	He can bring a flamethrower to the corruption in the swamp.
	Ron DeSantis, none of the others would risk not being re-elected.
	You're absolutely right.
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	Welcome back to America First!
	Thank you so much, Dr. Gorka.
	It's great to be back with you.
	All right, so much to discuss in terms of what the new House looks like, how much work is being done, the insanity of the left, another 18 months of the Biden administration.
	But I've got to get your take, because we've been talking about it for a whole hour now here on America First.
	The big announcement last night, did it meet your expectations?
	Are you excited for a big field of candidates for the presidential primaries?
	You know, I mean, they worked the Twitter space, got it up and going.
	It was kind of interesting.
	Most of the questions were more directed at Elon Musk.
	Maybe he should have been announcing his run for presidency.
	But there was certainly a lot of talk just thanking him for purchasing Twitter and what he's doing to take a stand for free speech.
	But Governor DeSantis announced that he's running for president, and I have endorsed President Trump.
	I will continue to endorse President Trump.
	There's no president that I could point to that has a track record like President Trump does.
	His policies were right for our country.
	Everything was going so much better when he was in office.
	And it's been a complete disaster with Joe Biden there in the White House, our new resident of the United States.
	And I think that Governor DeSantis has done a fantastic job administratively in Florida.
	And he needs to keep Florida great and continue to govern that state and govern it well.
	That's what he was elected to do.
	So I am backing President Trump for 2024 in that election.
	And I think it's going to be a really interesting primary.
	Yeah, I like that.
	I'm going to use that with your permission.
	Not president, but resident of the United States for the current incumbent.
	Are you satisfied?
	We had that four days of intense negotiations.
	Now we have the new speaker.
	We have new investigations, weaponization of government, investigation of the Biden crime cartel.
	As a real America first, are you satisfied with the last few months of performance by your fellow colleagues in the Republican Party?
	Yeah, well, I think Speaker McCarthy has done a really great job so far.
	But I always want to be more aggressive.
	I think we should be issuing even more subpoenas than we currently are.
	We've issued tens of them.
	We need to issue hundreds.
	And I want to really take this two years to expose All of the corruption that's been taking place in this woke and weaponized federal government.
	And this is our opportunity to do exactly that.
	So I want to be more aggressive when it comes to hearings and the witnesses that we are bringing in to testify before Congress.
	And I think we can be more aggressive with how we use our floor time.
	This week, we should have been using the floor time to debate things that we want seen in the debt ceiling increased negotiations.
	We should have been taking those pieces individually and bringing them as legislation to the floor
	so we could have that time of debate and really explain to the American people
	why we want to defund the 87,000 IRS agents, why we want to claw back the $60 billion
	in unspent COVID funds, and why we want all of these other things
	that we are currently demanding, going back to fiscal 2022 levels,
	pre-COVID spending levels, this is really important.
	And so I would have liked to have seen more strategy on the House floor this week,
	but nevertheless, we are still moving forward in these negotiations.
	The House, we've done our part to increase the debt ceiling, not something that I wanted to do by any means.
	But if we can take $500 billion in student loan bailouts and rescind that, then, you know, I'll take that as a victory.
	But if Joe Biden or the senators are going to come back and want More time added to this debt ceiling increase or more spending, then I'm going to demand that we have more cuts and even start demanding things like H.R.
	2, our border security bill, added to that list.
	Let's talk about that.
	In the meantime, make sure you follow this lady at Lauren Bobert.
	The website is lauren4colorado.com, the third congressional district's representative.
	So we have at least six million illegals that we know of, that we know of.
	We have the weaponization of the federal government, not just the 248,000 illegal queries of US citizens by the FISA system, by the intelligence community.
	We have the The breaking news early today that the founder of the Oath Keepers, who didn't hurt anybody, didn't assault anybody, didn't even enter Congress on January 6th, gets 18 years in prison with a terrorism enhancement.
	I have to ask you this.
	Can you talk to your Democrat colleagues?
	Because it seems as if they're fine with police state tactics.
	They're fine with, you know, burying the Hunter Biden investigation at the IRS.
	There is no political weaponization.
	They're not prepared to actually implement.
	They tell me 30, 40 years ago you could talk to Democrats on Capitol Hill, have a beer with them on Friday night.
	It seems as if you're a representative, you're a citizen politician, but you're having to deal with true extremists who happen to be members of Congress.
	You're exactly right.
	The Democrats have shown how extreme they are, and it's very hard to have a conversation with someone who is supporting these policies that are currently destroying our country, that just want to spend more money.
	And if they don't get to spend the money, and if we demand tax cuts, then they're going to take it to the streets and threaten to riot.
	If they want open border policies and amnesty, and skyrocketing inflation and to kill our energy industry,
	which is really a national security threat to us and to our allies, and so much more.
	It's very hard to have a conversation with them because they're not living in reality.
	And how do you debate something that's not reality?
	All of this is a fantasy land, a utopian, that they've created and want to live in,
	but that place is a police state place.
	This is a place where crime is high, where fentanyl is flowing into our country, where children are dying.
	Tens of thousands of children who've come over the southern border have gone missing.
	This is a State where the president, um, you know, he, he reads from a teleprompter and can't even get halfway through the lines without, um, stumbling and getting off course.
	And this is a man that they're praising and supporting.
	And, you know, maybe if these just pumped up enough and they got his eyes dilated just right, uh, you know, he can read what's on the screen, but even then it's a mess and you got the vice president who just cackles.
	All of this is, is nonsense.
	It is extreme.
	And I wouldn't call it a failure.
	I think that what we're seeing is the Democrats' success story.
	This is what they have wanted.
	This was their intent, was to break down the systems, to cause chaos, and to watch it implode so then they can move forward with their narrative, their communism that they have been pushing for all of these years.
	Yeah, the simple question is, would you do anything differently if your goal were to destroy America?
	The answer is no.
	We're talking to Lauren Bobbitt, Congresswoman Bobbitt from Colorado's 3rd Congressional District.
	Last minute with you.
	My wife, who hates politics because she's sane, Ran for public office, won her position last Saturday.
	You rocketed to fame as a citizen who took on Beto Robert O'Rourke.
	Now you are a citizen politician.
	What do you say to all of the people in Colorado, all of your supporters in America who may be toying with the idea of doing what you did, but they're put off by the radical crazies you have to deal with every day?
	Yes, so the radical crazies, that's the easy part.
	It's really kind of simple to expose their hypocrisy and just how extreme they are.
	But we need everyone stepping up in some capacity, speaking out, talking to neighbors, Getting involved in local races and local offices.
	But no, no matter what you do, we do live in a society where there's going to be consequences and there's going to be sacrifices that you'll have to make.
	I believe that our country is worth it.
	I believe that freedom for our children and our children's children is worth the sacrifices that are made, the blowbacks that may come your way.
	And I've never regretted taking a stand For what I know is right, for the Constitution, for freedom and liberty, and to make sure that everyone lives in this land of opportunity and has the potential to flourish here rather than be dictated by a tyrannical government.
	So for me, those sacrifices, it's just part of it, and I'm happy to stand and serve.
	The American people, and I'm so happy for your wife, but we need so many more people to stand up.
	We need more.
	The simple question is, if not you, who?
	If not now, when?
	You know the answer.
	It's you, and it's now.
	God bless you, Congresswoman Bobut.
	Follow her at laurenbobut, laurenforcolorado.com.
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	What kind of mood are you in?
	Well, I mean, that was quite a night last night, we'll just put it that way.
	So, uh, what a disaster, uh, by the DeSantis team's launch.
	I mean, they've been prepping for this, apparently, for months and months and months, and... I mean, they blew it, right?
	Like, I mean, it's, like, this was supposed to be their big moment of them getting in the race and showing that they're supposedly ready to govern the country, and that they're ready to go out there and win, and they're ready to go out...
	I mean, I don't even know if failure to launch is an apt description of it.
	I think that might not be accurate.
	I don't even know if they even got to the launch pad, right?
	I mean, talk about a total disaster from the DeSantis team, and this coincides with months and months of significant double-digit drops in the polls.
	historic levels of drop-off and support.
	I've never seen anything like it.
	And remember, I covered Jeb Bush in 2016.
	I've covered Tim Pawlenty in 2012.
	So I've never seen anything like this.
	I covered Scott Walker in 2016, too.
	I mean, it's like all the worst parts of all these failed campaigns kind of smushed together into one, and they blew it on their first day.
	I don't know if they're going to be able to course correct.
	There is a lot of time between now and Iowa, but it ain't looking good right now for the governor of Florida, and it's looking very good for President Trump, who is the clear and convincing frontrunner in the 2024 Republican field, no doubt about it.
	And, I mean, in the immediate aftermath of last night, today, we've seen polls come out of Iowa.
	President Trump has a 42% lead in Iowa.
	42% he's at 62.
	I mean this is unheard of, right?
	Like he's got major 30 points or more national leads in most major polls.
	There's been four or five in the last couple of days that have come out.
	He's got leads in every single state that has been polled recently.
	Most of them are double digits.
	I think the only one where he wasn't double digits was Georgia and it was like nine points or eight or nine points or something like that.
	So it's just... In your mind, you've rattled off all those figures.
	It's kind of strange to... When you're 30 to 40 points behind, what kind of logic would make you want to even launch a campaign?
	I'm kind of... I'm puzzled.
	I don't understand it, right?
	Like, again, the pathway and the case and whatnot, we haven't seen them make a clear case as to why.
	Now again, I want to put all the proper caveats here.
	There's a lot of time we've seen candidates like, I mean, John McCain was the comeback kid in 2008, right?
	Like, so you never know if John DeSantis is able to do the comeback kid like John McCain type of a thing, but at this stage, I don't see it, right?
	Like, I'm not seeing a clear and convincing case from them.
	They're not doing an effective job.
	Look at all the people that they did stuff with last night, right?
	They did Trey Gowdy, who's one of the worst establishment Republicans on Fox News. And they went to Fox News instead of Newsmax.
	Right. And not instead of Newsmax or any other conservative outlets. They didn't do any
	interview with Breitbart. They did one with Mark Levin, who's great. Like, I like Mark Levin a
	lot. Okay, fine. But then they did, previous to that, they had all these people
	coming and going on their Twitter spaces thing. But all of them are people that have said openly
	they're going to support DeSantis.
	They aren't doing anything to get to independent minded people on the right or to try to convince
	Trump people to come over and vote for them. And if that's their plan, then they're going
	to be stuck with their 12%. Right? And so the fact is, is that how are you going to
	win a national campaign?
	You need to be able to put together majorities first in the Republican primaries and caucuses and then in the general election.
	We're not seeing that's kind of a strategy yet from Governor DeSantis.
	Maybe we do later.
	I don't know.
	But right now they've got a serious problem and there's no evidence that they understand that or that they're willing to course correct.
	And to your point, it was billed even by DeSantis himself as a debate.
	Now I've been on dozens and dozens of Twitter spaces, you know, with thousands of people on the left and the right, and there was nothing that was even close to a debate yesterday.
	It was sycophants that were asking the questions and the fact that Elon Musk at the end said,
	you know, we want to do these with President Trump, with Vivek Ramaswamy, it wasn't even
	an endorsement by Elon of the governor of Florida.
	Right.
	But also all the other people that they brought into the universe and had questions from during
	this whole thing, they've all like publicly said they're voting for him.
	Like they've endorsed him.
	Right.
	Like, you know, the Saks guy, Dana Lash, etc.
	So all he's doing is taking yes men questions from sycophantic people.
	That's not free speech.
	That's not an open exchange of ideas, right?
	So kudos to Elon for trying to host a major thing.
	And I hope that other people try that kind of a thing with Twitter and whatnot.
	And I hope that he continues trying to make Twitter An open platform and better than it was in the previous days, but in the censorship and whatnot.
	But the fact is that this was not... I mean, first off, the other thing is that them trying to say that, oh, we crashed the internet.
	That's such a lie.
	Three weeks earlier, a few weeks earlier, Elon Musk had three million people listening to his BBC thing on the exact same technology.
	Yes.
	Nonsense.
	Horse crap.
	I'm calling BS on that one.
	That's a lie from the DeSantis team that's reeling from after months and months and months of a beatdown.
	Look, here's the deal.
	Donors, major players, influencers, senators, congressmen, they're all watching this saying maybe we were right to question whether or not he was ready, right?
	And so there's a whole ton of different people out there that maybe we're going to support him, that are either going for other people or holding back for now.
	And it's only going to continue to get worse unless they change their ways.
	And right now, not seeing the evidence that they're willing to do that.
	So, you know, look, I do think that he's been a positive governor for Florida.
	I think that the policies that he's done in Tallahassee are great.
	But we're not seeing the steps taken necessary to demonstrate that he is running a serious campaign for the White House at this time.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And on top of that, that you do it on a platform that's audio only and doesn't let you do video clips.
	None of it makes sense.
	I wonder if anybody's going to get fired in Tallahassee.
	We're talking to the Bureau Chief for Washington, D.C.
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	One more thing dr. G. Yeah, you see this did you see this story from axios this morning?
	Apparently, DeSantis added fake fighter jets to his campaign launch video.
	Are you kidding?
	It's unbelievable, right?
	Can you send that to me now?
	I'm sending it to you right now, yeah.
	I just saw this just now.
	I was just like, wow, this is unreal.
	That's almost as good as the DNC conference, the DNC video where they had Belgian jets on the American whatever.
	Oh yeah, no, but they like literally just put in fake planes on top of the video and sound too.
	Yeah.
	Oh my gosh, that's hilarious.
	And after his supporters unironically said the TopGov video was cool.
	Yeah.
	Remember that?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Three minutes.
	That's hilarious.
	Let's watch the video.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Two and a half minutes Oh my gosh, that's hilarious
	Peace.
	That is hilarious.
	Wow.
	Alright, gonna have to repost that.
	I know it's Axios, but still.
	Yeah, I hate those guys.
	I'm not going to do a link, I'm just going to do a screenshot.
	I hate those guys.
	BrightBot should buy Axios.
	Maybe.
	They're pretty expensive.
	Isn't it Steve Jobs' wife?
	Ex-wife or something?
	Yeah, she bought it.
	She bought it for like billions of dollars or something.
	So, I don't know.
	It was a lot of money, I know that.
	Is that Australian guy still there?
	Swan?
	Nah, he's in the New York Times now.
	Oh, he is?
	Yep.
	Interesting.
	Yep.
	Swan's a good dude as far as the establishment media goes.
	Yeah, but he's still part of it.
	Right, right, right.
	He's a good dude as far as they go.
	I've got way worse problems with the establisher media than...
	Oh yeah.
	Yeah.
	All right, so I'm going to use Chip Roy here.
	Oh, play me cut six.
	Cut six.
	Because Kevin McCarthy is going to the White House without a majority of his caucus.
	He does not have what is necessary to negotiate.
	And for any question about what anybody would settle for, he has responsibility to concede.
	So if he wants any Democratic support, he has to come to the table.
	And we have seen him over and over again say that he will not negotiate, that they are engaged in hostage-taking, not negotiation.
	Extortion, not conversation.
	There's that talking point again, hostage-taking.
	Yeah, but when do you ever see her at the podium with leadership that shows they're losing, that they need to get her to message it?
	Right, right, right.
	They are losing like you have no idea.
	We'll discuss that.
	I've got a lot of stuff that hasn't been reported.
	I talked to some of the negotiators.
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	He's Matt Boyle.
	Matt Shiproy.
	Massive disappointment.
	And saying stuff that's just counterfactual or, if you want to be impolite, dumb.
	Cut 4.
	And Governor DeSantis was here, and he helped start the Freedom Caucus, the same Freedom Caucus that Byron and I are part of, standing up to the establishment.
	And now in Florida, he's doing the hard work of standing up for the people there.
	And Disney, he took on Disney, the 800-pound gorilla in Florida, when everybody said he shouldn't.
	And by doing that, he's demonstrating that he can stand up for parents, stand up for families, stand up for hard-working Americans that are getting run over by the corporate establishment.
	And the corporate establishment are the ones that The establishment hates Twitter spaces.
	I'm sorry, you're in the media, you live it every single day.
	Not only was the technology bad and crashed, Twitter is tiny in comparison to Facebook.
	It's definitely not a rally, and it's also the platform for the elitists, for the media, and for the political junkies.
	What is this man talking about, Matt?
	Yeah, look, he's clearly in the tank for DeSantis.
	He endorsed DeSantis months ago.
	Look, I like Chip Roy on a lot of things.
	Other times, he digs in on stuff like this.
	It is what it is, right?
	It's embarrassing.
	I know, and I feel bad for the guy, honestly.
	He's done a lot of good things over the course of his career.
	He was Ted Cruz's chief of staff in the Senate.
	I remember being in behind the scenes conservative groups with Chip Roy back before he was in
	Congress.
	So he's a good guy.
	Sometimes he's wrong.
	It happens.
	But digging in like this, let's talk about people digging in.
	The debt ceiling.
	They've rolled out AOC to try and gin up the base and get support for the Democrats.
	That's not a good sign.
	What is your prediction?
	What's the latest you're hearing?
	Is this going to be guns at dawn?
	Is this going to be a Mexican standoff?
	What's the latest?
	Yeah, so look, what we're hearing right now is that Speaker McCarthy is about to roll the White House, right?
	So there could be a deal announced perhaps as soon as tonight, but ideally, possibly by the end of the week, if not early next week.
	And some of the key things I can tell you from my sources, I've talked to people involved in the negotiations, here's where things are at.
	The White House originally tried to offer, because they knew they were losing, they tried
	to offer a freeze on spending at current levels in exchange for raising the debt ceiling.
	Speaker McCarthy said, no dice, no.
	We're going for deep spending cuts.
	So I don't know the exact number of what we're talking about, but they are going to cut spending
	and it's going to be big.
	It's going to be tens of, if not hundreds of billions of dollars below current levels,
	which is causing the inflation, by the way, the high levels of spending.
	So that's a big thing.
	Secondly, I've been told that the final deal McCarthy is insisting will include cuts to
	the Inflation Reduction Act, adding the IRS agents.
	So they're going to cut the IRS agents.
	Thirdly, the final deal will include, and this is in there, it's going to include the rescission of the extra unspent COVID money.
	So they're going to pull all the un-spent COVID money back and that's going to happen.
	And then thirdly, or fourthly, I guess, I'm running down a list of things here, but anyway, point is, next thing is, no tax increases.
	There will not be tax increases.
	That is another loss for the Democrats.
	They were trying to push for tax increases or revenue increases.
	That's not happening.
	But the question is, is the White House going to cave?
	Yes.
	So it looks like the White House is going to agree to all of this stuff.
	And then the next and final big thing, and this is even bigger than all the other things, they're going to have new work requirements for welfare and entitlement programs.
	sure on how that's gonna shake out but that's gonna be in there as well and and
	so it looks like that there that's what the final deal is gonna look like now
	look some of the conservatives people like Chip Roy people like that are
	probably not gonna vote for this in the end because they're they're gonna be
	opposed to it in principle that's fine but I do think that directly
	contradicting AOC you're going to see that the final deal will have well more
	than a majority of the House Republican conference in support of this plan
	And it will be because Kevin McCarthy went in there and actually used the leverage that the Republicans have and rolled the White House, and everybody underestimated the Speaker and the House Republican Conference earlier this year when they thought they didn't have the juice to be able to pass the Republican-led plan.
	That passage, that plan set this up.
	It really forced their hand.
	Now again, we know we're not going to get everything we wanted and it's not going to have everything in the plan, but if it has all that stuff, this is a massive win.
	Huge, huge.
	So glad I asked.
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	Uh, we're trying to get on?
	Yeah.
	Marcus Allen DeSantis website selling DeSantis broke the internet mugs
	and t-shirts I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	And then it says next, the deep state corporate media and woke indoctrination.
	He loves using the word woke.
	He's like, Oh my gosh, it's every other sentence with him.
	I noticed that yesterday.
	Exactly.
	So yeah, he's overkilling it.
	Yeah.
	I'd love to know what he did as a Jag.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Plotted his plan to run for Congress, then Governor.
	Again, I love that bit where he told Bowling, it's like, oh, I'm an executive guy, I only want to be in a position where I can do things, and he ran for Senate in 2016.
	Oh, play cut eight.
	Cut eight.
	If you put your customers last, don't cry when you become the Bud Light of retail.
	Who at Target thought it was a good idea, and they've since pulled the clothing, thought it was a good idea to put a Satanist clothing line in their store?
	I'm surprised you said that on Fox.
	Uh, yeah.
	Come in with that.
	Let's cut eight.
	Oh, title for Boyle.
	Give me one.
	Something about DeSantis, like, DeSantis' team blew it or something like that?
	Yep.
	Good.
	I'm sending you an image that I'm going to...
	you can just put on once I start talking after the Kali cut.
	after the haircut.
	I'm going to do a little bit of a more advanced haircut.
	If you put your customers last, don't cry when you become the bud light of retail.
	Who at Target thought it was a good idea, and they've since pulled the clothing, thought it was a good idea to put a Satanist clothing line in their store?
	They haven't, uh, Kaylee, pulled the clothing.
	They've moved it to another part of the store in most cases, but nevertheless...
	It is a culture war, but I tweeted this out earlier today.
	This thing, marketing.
	You know, you've got to be a marketer.
	I just wrote this.
	Must be so hard to do marketing.
	I mean, you'd have to know not to tell Bud Light that a transvestite isn't manly.
	You'd have to tell the Dodgers that anti-Catholic blasphemers shouldn't be celebrated at a ball game.
	And, as a marketer, you should tell Target that selling transgender children's swimsuits designed by Satanists is a bad idea.
	I mean, seriously, how much of an idiot are you?
	Or maybe you're not an idiot.
	You're an ideologue.
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	She's been waiting so patiently.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Antoinette, California.
	Welcome, my friend.
	This is the Latina XX.
	Dr. G, I am the woman, but here's the thing on DeSantis first.
	Is it soup yet?
	There used to be a commercial about soup, and DeSantis just blew it totally.
	So hang on, just tell me, why did he blow it for you?
	Because he was so damn slow.
	There was this commercial here years ago.
	It was called, and the kids and the people, everybody was waiting.
	It was called, Is It Soup Yet?
	Right.
	We have been waiting and waiting and waiting.
	What?
	Boy, did he mess up yesterday.
	But why?
	But why?
	Tell me why.
	Because he didn't really come out strong.
	Yeah.
	He didn't come out with his pitch to America.
	Yes!
	The man has no loyalty, period.
	This is the big issue.
	Somebody on the Twitter space I was on afterwards said, you know, it's about loyalty and it said loyalty?
	Loyalty?
	How is Ron DeSantis loyal?
	The man who wouldn't be president, who wouldn't be governor without the president, the man who basically stabbed him in the back on the Monday press conference after the Alvin Bragg indictments were leaked, that's not loyalty.
	President Trump understands loyalty.
	Antoinette, updates on your rallies?
	Wonderful.
	Today, a young girl, we were at the Tustin Orange Planned Parenthood because they're doing more abortions there.
	It was so damn busy this morning.
	It was disgusting.
	But one of the girls came out to us.
	We gave her the information, and she's going to go to the clinic.
	She doesn't have to worry about anything, and she's going to keep the baby.
	She wouldn't tell us her name, but oh my God, Dr. G, we were so happy and excited.
	And if we can get more people to come and be with us or pray with us, Thursdays and Sundays at the Tustin Orange Planned Parenthood.
	It was magnificent today, Dr. G. What time?
	What time?
	What time?
	On Sundays, it's going to be noon to 2 this Sunday.
	On Thursdays, from 9 to 11 in the morning.
	Okay?
	Amazing.
	You saved another life.
	God bless you.
	Voice for the voiceless, Antoinette.
	Thank you.
	Keep doing what you do.
	Let's go to Mike in Detroit, line 2.
	Oh yeah, Dr. Gorka, yeah.
	It's kind of like the idea of the eyes on the prize, you know.
	Democrats are good at dividing and conquering, you know, and all the rest of it, but right before our eyes we have the Dems, the deep state mainstream media.
	You know, they're deconstructing our nation before our very eyes.
	Now, who is going to deal with them?
	As far as I'm concerned, the uncompromising President Trump.
	I mean, he is the person to do that.
	And all you have to do is watch.
	And if you want to be enlightened, watch the weaponization hearing
	and the contrast between the carnival constituency of the Democratic Party and the whistleblowers.
	You know, that's all you need to know.
	You know, and keep focused.
	You know, that's what I think, you know?
	Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
	I'm gonna have one of those brave whistleblowers on my Newsmax show this Sunday 7 p.m.
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	Let's go to Joe, line 3, Illinois.
	Dr. J. Yes.
	Donald Trump is our top gun.
	I am his wingman.
	You are his wingman.
	When he walks into a rally, the whole place lights up.
	Yeah.
	He has Moxie.
	And as far as DeSantis goes, kind of a dud.
	Who's excited about that announcement?
	Right?
	I don't think anybody heard it.
	I know I didn't hear it.
	And Twitter?
	Twitter?
	Are your parents on Twitter, Joe?
	Because mine aren't.
	Well, both my parents are in heaven.
	Oh, God bless them.
	God bless them.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But, you know, DeSantis is like maybe a first-round draft choice, you know.
	But if he'd been smart about it ten months ago, eight months ago, he could have come on in, supported President Trump, thanked him for the governorship, and he could have been a member of the cabinet.
	Joe, he's blown it.
	There it is.
	He's blown it.
	There it is, yeah.
	Right?
	He could have been a V, he could have been, you know, he's a former JAG, he could have been, you know, he could have been the Attorney General, but now, although President Trump does have a superpower, one of our guests mentioned it on the show, President Trump could forgive and forget.
	Does Ron have a future in national politics, Joe?
	I believe he might, but I don't like the people that he's surrounded himself with.
	You know, the former Bushies.
	That's so important.
	When you're surrounded by former Bushies, when Karl Rove's your biggest buddy, and when Ken Griffin, the billionaire bundler for Obama, is one of your donors, very, very strange.
	God bless you, Joe.
	God bless your parents in heaven.
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	If you have a cell phone, please, please tell me your cell phone isn't connected to one of the big cell phone companies because they're just as woke as Target.
	Yeah, no, they are.
	They're left-wing.
	They've given millions of dollars to those murderers at Planned Parenthood.
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	You know it makes sense.
	Thank you.
	Yes, sir.
	When did the Chick-fil-A materialize into the room?
	What?!
	I didn't even realize I was there.
	Who has Chick-fil-A?
	The guy hiding behind the computer screen right now.
	He always brings in yummy food.
	He does it on purpose.
	Alex... No, no cap.
	When did you get that?
	What did you say?
	No cap?
	No cap.
	It's a Zoomer phrase.
	What does that even mean?
	Like, no joke, be serious.
	Why don't you just say no joke then?
	What does cap mean?
	I'm trying to be like... I need a subtitle on the screen to figure out what you're saying.
	But what does cap mean?
	What?
	Urban lingo.
	But what does cap mean?
	That one is?
	I don't even know.
	Eric's pretty urban.
	I'm secretly an urban street fighter.
	One minute.
	For real, for real.
	No, Alex, I wanna- I'm gonna guess it was DoorDash or Uber Eats.
	I don't know.
	I couldn't comprehend using those services.
	I have to go in and get my food.
	I'm just- I don't feel comfortable with like- Oh yeah, a stranger's gonna deliver your food for you.
	Unless it's pizza.
	It's part of the pizza culture.
	But otherwise- Cause they what, might poison you, Eric?
	I don't know, you never know.
	It could be the people on bikes.
	If you, like, order an Uber Eats and see that the person is delivering you food on a bike, you know that food's gonna be ice cold.
	Cut!
	Come in with 10.
	Wait till you have an infant and can't leave the house.
	Cut 10!
	Yep, coming in with cut 10.
	Cut 10, 20 seconds.
	Music.
	Music.
	The problem with Ron DeSanctimonious is that he needs a personality transplant, and those are not yet available.
	Almost all congressmen and women that served with him and knew him well supported me.
	Some of them, surprisingly so, because of their relationship with Ron.
	I would say that when it comes to lack of personality, Ron would be in a class with Asa Hutchinson, and that's not good.
	I don't know where I was.
	I somehow missed that clip.
	And when Jeff mentioned it to me, I thought, no, no, that's a deep fake.
	Somebody made that.
	Are we going to see more of that, Jeff, in the future?
	What do you think?
	I love it.
	And even when he says afterwards, he goes, and unfortunately, those aren't available yet.
	It's just classic Trump.
	Personality transplants, just in case you're wondering, are not available yet.
	That's his challenge for the scientists, apart from listening to all the swarm creatures.
	Personality!
	Nobody's excited about it.
	And he didn't do anything to change our minds about that last night.
	All right, somebody who'll never have a personality because she's as thick as a plank.
	Karine Jean-Pierre.
	It's not an easy name to pronounce.
	I had to learn it because he was a cabinet member and I worked in the White House.
	It's Mnuchin.
	Mnuchin, Mnuchin, Mnuchin, Mnuchin.
	He's a cabinet member of the Trump administration.
	She's never heard his name before.
	What did she call him?
	Cut nine.
	Stephen, Stephen.
	Munchkin?
	Munchkin?
	Jeff.
	She repeated it.
	We know it's amazing.
	It's not like this was someone under Bush.
	It was only a couple years ago.
	It just proves she doesn't really follow the news or anything.
	But it means she's just stupid.
	Exactly.
	But how does any grown-up, I mean maybe a three-year-old, would believe a human being could have the last name Munchkin?
	This is the White House Press Secretary, Jeff.
	And then she keeps going with it, yep.
	Says it again.
	And then she repeats it.
	I'm sorry, it's just too good.
	Just play it again.
	Play it again, Eric.
	Steven, Steven, um, Munchkin, Munchkin.
	And she actually says, and this, she points her finger, and she goes, and this time I'm going to get it right.
	And she says it again.
	Munchkin!
	Munchkin!
	Oh dear lord, dear lord.
	This is the peculiarity of the situation we find ourselves in.
	That we are assaulted day in day out by ideological extremists, radicals who hate America, and half of them are also clinical imbeciles.
	As the Chinese curse goes, may you live in interesting times.
	And we are!
	And it's going to get even more interesting in the next year and a half.
	You've got to stay here every single day at America First.
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	Yeah, because she has two mothers.
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	I'm curious how that works biologically, but we shall move on to the actual question of
	how this affects all men and the fighting force included in the United States with the
	perfect guest for that, a man who has served our nation in the uniforms of two different
	services, who has risen to the heights of the Department of Defense and then to be a
	member of the cabinet of the Thank you sir.
	It's good to be here.
	of Veterans Affairs. He is the Senior Strategist for Newsmax.
	My good friend, Robert Wilkie.
	Secretary Wilkie, welcome back in the studio.
	Thank you. Thank you, sir. It's good to be here. May I ask for an indulgence right off
	the bat?
	Well, since it's you, of course.
	Many of your viewers and listeners will remember Secretary Rumsfeld.
	And he had a habit.
	He had unknown unknowns.
	He had a habit of sending out what were known as snowflakes.
	Little messages that he dictated to us throughout the department.
	Now, this one was not directed to me, but I came across it today.
	It's March 1st, 2005, and it's actually addressed to my predecessor as the Assistant Secretary for Legislative Affairs.
	And the subject is Senator Biden.
	And Rumsfeld gets right to the heart of the matter.
	He says, please see if you can come up with some kind of a plan that you think would be useful with respect to Senator Biden, if there is such a thing.
	Is that a real Robson?
	This is a and it is unclassified.
	It has the stamp on it.
	Wow.
	You may have it.
	I have not heard this one.
	Can you come up for a plan for Senator Biden if there is such a thing?
	All right.
	Oh, it says yes for official use only unclassified.
	That's right.
	It has had the stamp of approval.
	And, you know, that snowflake actually has a much deeper meaning because Senator Biden would come into the Pentagon and say he's scheduled for an hour.
	Not with Rumsfeld, because Rumsfeld would have thrown him out, but with general officers.
	And he would talk for 58 of those minutes.
	When he's coming to the D.O.D.
	for a briefing, he talks about how bad their tactics are.
	It was a remarkable thing to watch.
	And we see that same hubris, arrogance, but arrogance built on ignorance that informs the national security team led by Mr. Biden.
	And the sad thing is, you pointed out so many times, we have two more years of this.
	Yeah.
	And I'm very worried, because even with Mr. Trump doing so well, it's still two years away.
	Yes.
	And I don't think Xi Jinping has a lot of time.
	To make his move?
	To make his move.
	His economy is worsening.
	He's hitched his star to the Putin wagon, which is collapsing as we speak.
	The Ukrainians, without having an air force, just destroyed about a third of Russia's force in Ukraine in one day.
	And the drone and rocket attacks on Kiev are a sign of weakness, I would say.
	I think so.
	And the hard men in Beijing were used to the steady progress of Deng Xiaoping and his successors.
	They're very cautious, as Chinese history dictates that they be.
	So they can't be too happy with what's going on.
	And I think the only redemptive path for the current president, dictator of China, is to make that kind of move on Taiwan because he knows that if the man from Mar-a-Lago returns, that's not going to happen.
	I like that.
	The man from Mar-a-Lago.
	Somebody should write a book with that title.
	I'm going to write that down just in case.
	All right, we are here.
	We can talk strategy, and we will talk a little bit of strategy and geopolitics for hours with our supporter here, our regular guest.
	But we've invited him for this episode of the Manhood Hour because he knows what manhood really looks like.
	He's seen what warrior class looks like, and he's been responsible for securing America in the Pentagon, the man in charge of readiness of our personnel across the armed forces.
	So let's begin.
	I just showed an advertisement, a campaign ad, where a A female private spends 90% of the commercial for the U.S.
	Army talking about fighting for justice for her lesbian mothers and then puts on a uniform at the end.
	How bad is the assault on manhood in our civilization?
	Well, it is pervasive.
	It's pervasive at every level of our culture.
	And the effects, if you want to see the effects, go to Chicago, go to New York, go to Los Angeles.
	And what do I mean by that?
	In the darkest days of segregation, the African-American family was whole.
	The emphasis was on education and making sure you are never what that man over there thinks you are.
	When the Civil Rights Act was signed by President Johnson, 18% of black children in America grew up in a single-parent house.
	Today, it's reaching 81%.
	The downstream effects of eliminating that masculine figure in these families is what you see on the streets.
	Lawlessness, the inability of society in the form of schools or what have you.
	To corral that, the disintegration of the public edifice of education, and the notion that in America, for every right, you had a corresponding responsibility.
	Now, what you just showed in the military side is, let's start with what the military is not.
	Civilian standards of fairness do not apply in our business.
	Well, this is really important.
	I want us to hold on this for a second.
	Because there is this idea that the left, the dominant cultural influences are trying to sell that the military is just like anything else and that we can impose upon it external standards that have nothing to do with defeating an enemy, with wartime.
	It's as if they're taking the armed forces out of context and the mission that they're meant there to achieve.
	So let's hold on that point for a second.
	We're talking to former Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie.
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	Secretary, you are making the point that the armed services are different, are they not?
	There are standards there that are not reflected elsewhere.
	Absolutely.
	And what you just saw was a play to convince people that the armed forces are social justice
	warriors devoted to changing the ethos of America.
	and we'll see you next time.
	Because America's the problem.
	Because America's the problem, and we know with the Secretary of State and the National Security Advisor, we never hear from the Secretary of Defense, and this President, that they actually believe that.
	But let's talk about what the military is.
	You've done it, I've done it.
	Not to the extent that people like my father did it.
	Who was your father?
	Well, my father, senior officer in the 82nd Airborne Division.
	I believe you'll find he was one of the most decorated artillerymen to come out of Vietnam.
	And very badly wounded.
	And very badly wounded.
	Huge man, 6'2", 240.
	After being wounded in Cambodia, we didn't see him for a year.
	When we did see him, he weighed 125 pounds.
	Wow.
	A huge man for his day.
	But let's talk about what the military is.
	Please.
	It's the great leveler in society.
	And I want to turn the civil rights thing back on them.
	So, and I said this in testimony once in one of my confirmation hearings because I was being attacked for praising Robert E. Lee and what have you in my past, which until this administration was not something that anyone thought twice about.
	But I remember when my father had command in the 82nd, the only time he didn't leave the home at two o'clock in the morning was on Thursdays when the sergeant would pick him up and take him to the commander's conference.
	So this is in the 70s at Fort Bragg.
	His sergeant was black, but he was taking him to a meeting with the commanding general of the most decorated of all American combat unions, who was also black.
	And that happens because it's the army.
	It's the army.
	It is the leveler.
	If you perform, you're accepted.
	But let me tell you... And what year would that have been?
	Let's be clear.
	That would have been 1975.
	So this is the 70s.
	In the South.
	In the South, in Bragg.
	The commanding general of the 82nd Airborne Division was Roscoe Robbins.
	But he probably wasn't a homosexual, so he's not a justice warrior.
	Yeah, so let me tell you what they've done.
	General Mattis asked me to convene what he called the Close Combat Lethality Task Force.
	To make it harder to get into the infantry and the Marine Corps.
	Paratroopers of the Army.
	Because only a small percentage of even those in the military can qualify.
	But our goal was survivability in combat.
	Because 95% of the casualties occur within a mile of the enemy.
	Of the enemy, yeah.
	That's where people die.
	This isn't Midway.
	This isn't the Battle of Britain.
	And what Madison and I saw was the diminution of standards in order, in the name of equity, which is what the Obama people had done.
	Which made people vulnerable.
	Vulnerable, exactly.
	You water down those standards and you put people's lives at risk.
	This administration got rid of it.
	Because it wasn't fair?
	It wasn't fair.
	We now have a Secretary of the Air Force who says that promotions now must have a racial element to them.
	The same applies for the Navy, and we hear that from the Army.
	Secretary, the demands of combat, as Churchill described, are intractable demands.
	If you don't have the highest physical fitness standards and you deny basic biology.
	You pay a price.
	You're going to get people killed.
	We actually saw that just with the diminution of standards after we stood down in World War II.
	There's something that many in your audience will know in studying the Truman administration, Task Force Smith, which was an element of the 1st Infantry Division.
	They'd been the occupiers in Japan.
	When North Korea came across the Parallel, they threw them in.
	They'd been garrisoned.
	They hadn't done any regular physical activity.
	Their weapons didn't work.
	And it was a disaster.
	The same at Kasserine Pass, when the United States Army first went up against the Afrika Korps and were slaughtered because those standards were haphazard.
	There are legitimate biological differences.
	You can't refute science.
	Well, it's physics.
	It's physics.
	And if somebody's wounded and you can't pick them up.
	So let me tell you what they've done at the Navy's basic trainings up at Great Lakes.
	It used to be to pass the test.
	You've seen in the movies the Navy steel litters that they use.
	You'd have one guy at one end, one guy at the other.
	Well, you can't do that with a large number of females.
	So now the requirement's two on each side.
	Oh my gosh.
	But guess what?
	You can't get them through the passageways on the ship, because two on each side won't do.
	Won't fit.
	And there have been things like that.
	These are the small things that matter.
	You know, the passageway on a ship is not negotiable.
	If you've been hit, if you've got wounded men, you can't say, okay, well, you're too weak, you're a woman, you can't lift that person up, they can just die, or we're just going to expand the passageway.
	This is why you are invaluable as a guest, because you can translate it into realities that everyone can understand.
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	Secretary Wilkie, you have such an expansive knowledge of history, this next question I think you could really help us with.
	If you had to identify the source of the assault on manhood ideologically, there's so many places to choose from, whether it's academe, Hollywood, whether it is the teacher training colleges, the Frankfurt School.
	In a Clausewitzian sense, if we had to identify the center of gravity For this assault, this, you know, who invented toxic masculinity, where would you place the pin on the map for that center of gravity for the origins of the assault?
	Let me tell you where the center of the assault is being made.
	The armed forces of the United States are considered by the left to be the last bastion.
	Traditionally, it's been the one place that they have not been able to crack.
	If they crack the very meaning of being a soldier.
	Then they crack the last element in society where duty, honor, service before self.
	Love of country.
	Love of country.
	That's where the focus is.
	And it's been coming for a long time.
	It really began to creep up in the Clinton years.
	It certainly accelerated under Obama.
	And now it's just a typhoon.
	I'll give you an example.
	The Special Operations Community, that's a very unique part of the military.
	The standards are exacting.
	And this is no offense to the individual who was named, but the Army Special Operations Command just named a new sergeant major.
	A woman.
	She's never been engaged in a gunfight, never been in a position to defend a position.
	Now why is that important?
	And she's had a fine career in support roles, but how does she relate to those special forces soldiers, the rangers?
	And as Orwell said, we sleep soundly at night because rough men kick down doors in the morning.
	And that's what we get away with and that's where we're headed.
	Now I'm not denying and Mattis wouldn't either.
	Mattis was hard over on all of these issues.
	The ability of of women to excel in the cockpit.
	Things that they have naturally that just make them better.
	So that's one.
	But the left won't allow you to say, well, if that's the case.
	But we won't accept this other thing, where people who look like my father
	do the job better because of their ability to sustain punishment.
	And that's what this is.
	This is all about survivability.
	It's not about equal opportunity.
	Equal opportunity gets people killed.
	It gets people killed.
	And we've seen that.
	We've seen that happen.
	Well, let's think.
	And you and I have talked about this.
	The current Secretary of the Army, as Senator Cotton has exposed, is very fine with physical fitness standards that say you do 10 push-ups, 10 sit-ups, and walk or trot a mile.
	That is and then the other thing is they've now said that if you as an officer fail a physical fitness test That doesn't reflect on your record the same for e8 and above that's Seniors and CEOs that's no longer a standard in the name of equity So how can you fight if you're not fit?
	That's exactly right.
	It's a very simple question.
	How can you fight if you're not fit?
	This is The Manhood Hour.
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	All right, Secretary Wilkie, this is one of my most fun questions on the Manhood Hour.
	For most men, if they're lucky, the answer should be their father.
	For some, we've had, you know, former SEALs say it was fictional characters like Tom Clancy.
	Others have said, my football coach in high school.
	Who, for you, defined your understanding of what it means to be a man?
	Well, certainly the people I grew up around in Fort Bragg.
	And why did that come home to me?
	And I've said this to you before.
	In elementary school, when one of my classmates was called to the principal's office, there was always a chance that there was bad news from Southeast Asia.
	And I saw the sacrifices.
	Those men, and it goes from Creighton Abrams down to my father.
	I kept a picture of Creighton Abrams in my office at the VA and also at the Pentagon.
	The physical toll that that took on them in constant combat for years at a time.
	Never questioning where they were going.
	And then, if you're going to look at the popular culture, I just went to the John Wayne Museum at Fort Worth.
	How is it?
	It's wonderful.
	The Wayne family didn't want it in California.
	And they put it right in the heart of Trump country in Fort Worth.
	And you see through the progression of this museum, and it's not a Hollywood wax museum type museum, it's about this man's beliefs.
	And you see through the letters and the pictures, devotion to country.
	The things that he embodied, or Jimmy Stewart, those are the people I grew up with.
	I had my head patted by Audie Murphy when I was a child.
	The only thing we had in common was that we have the same middle name that we never use, Leon.
	That was your connection to Audie Murphy.
	But he was there, and my mother of course said, well you see him in the western movies.
	A man like that who was rejected by the Marine Corps, rejected by the Army Air Corps.
	Little fella.
	Yeah, another big guy.
	5'3".
	Right.
	And what he was able to accomplish.
	Saving his fellow soldiers.
	Again and again.
	And again and again.
	Those are the people that I grew up around and I saw on a daily basis.
	They didn't have medals that said I was just alive.
	You didn't have those big rolls of medals like Mark Milley?
	You know it's funny, I was talking to a Marine about this today.
	Our soldiers now look like junior ROTC students.
	With medals going up, or North Korean officers.
	North Korean officers. North Korean corporals. Yeah. And look, I mean, look, look at that.
	He's got a literal jigsaw.
	He's got a 5 inch by 5 inch rainbow flag jigsaw.
	George C. Marshall.
	One row.
	Dwight Eisenhower.
	One row.
	Now Patton had those, but every one of those was either being shot or shooting at someone.
	But those were the people.
	Let's just remind the world what we have today.
	Let's put up an admiral who has never served on a ship or never fired a gun in anger, who actually pretends that he's a woman who wears a skirt.
	This is Richard Levine.
	This is Biden's America.
	This is the embodiment of the war.
	on masculinity and then and then as we discussed I think the last time you're on the show the idea that the US Navy now has a drag queen who is recruiting for people to join the Navy as he's wearing a dress as he's being seen filmed in and out of uniform And I asked you last time, the UCMJ, the legal system for those in the armed services, they show in this recruiting ad him doing a sexually explicit drag show on a U.S.
	naval ship.
	What is the penalty for that?
	Well, the commander would be relieved.
	If that were a strip show, President Biden would get involved for the attack on women.
	Women, right.
	The toxic masculinity.
	That's right.
	And then we have this, which does make a mockery.
	And we see that now in the competitions.
	Britain here.
	Everything that we were told to believe as a result of the 60s revolution.
	It's now been stood on its head.
	But where are the feminists?
	Women are being cancelled, literally.
	A man can call himself Leah, crush the dreams of thousands of swimmers who are actual female high school athletes, and you're negating womanhood.
	Only two questions left.
	If we're to redress this problem, if there is to be a counter, What are the bare minimum?
	What things do have to be taught to the next generation?
	You think of a curriculum for, you know, the 10-year-old, 12-year-old boys today in America.
	What is the bare minimum they must be taught when it comes to manhood?
	So, you are so right.
	First of all, we need the restoration not only of civics and history, but we need the restoration of physical education.
	We are creating a generation of couch potatoes because someone has decided it might not be fair if you're faster than I am.
	Right.
	Or if you're stronger than I am.
	Again, the negation of natural law.
	And excellence.
	And excellence.
	For the military, if there is another Trump administration, I would expect on day one The elimination of all what I call discrimination and indoctrination, DEI.
	The DEI lectures.
	All of that.
	That's right.
	And a restoration of the physical fitness standards that existed prior to Biden.
	If I were administrator, I wouldn't care how many people failed.
	And this could be done in a matter of days.
	Just like that.
	At the academies.
	Restore the centrality of the services, ethics, service history, military history.
	It's no longer required at West Point.
	Military history.
	But you have to take CRT West Point was famous for two things, military history and engineering.
	Right.
	That was it.
	Right.
	And we need to take a fundamental look at that.
	So.
	All right.
	That is a discussion that we will continue and hopefully this individual will be responsible for making it happen inside the five sided playpen.
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	Alright, last question. On all of these issues, we started with that absurd, obscene advertisement,
	that propagandizing advertisement for the U.S. Army.
	Army.
	We've shown pictures of utter disgraces, treasonous officers like Milley.
	Then we have drag queens in the U.S.
	Navy.
	Are you an optimist or a pessimist when it comes to our capacity to redress the balance and restore manhood?
	The one thing about America has been its resiliency in our history.
	I mean, Bismarck said that God does three things.
	He protects fools, drunkards in the United States.
	But I think the time for correction is getting much shorter.
	Because this is not... The military is the...
	The end of this process.
	Yes.
	I mean, this stuff starts in kindergarten and elementary school and high school.
	But we had better get ourselves in order or there will be tragedies.
	Just look at what Putin has done.
	He's sending people who've been in uniform for two weeks into a fight against an army that's been trained primarily by the British.
	And by the finest soldiers in the United Kingdom.
	And they're getting slaughtered.
	I mean, his offensive, which began three months ago, four months ago, there's 200,000 casualties.
	And what's the common denominator with those soldiers?
	They're poorly trained.
	They're physically unfit.
	And what happens?
	And they're dying by the bucketful.
	This is what it leads to.
	It leads to disaster on the battlefield.
	But everybody has a role to play.
	Every listener, every viewer right now has a role to play in the restoration.
	Yes.
	And they can do it at the ballot box.
	They can do it at the school board.
	But Nixon's silent majority.
	And people think he was talking about civil rights.
	He wasn't.
	He was talking about standing up for the nation.
	Yeah.
	Irrespective of skin color.
	Absolutely.
	He was talking about patriotism.
	He was talking about people going into the streets to oppose those who were carrying communist flags up and down the streets of New York and Washington.
	Or burning the American flag.
	Or burning the American flag.
	The great silent majority.
	They're still out there.
	But you shouldn't be silent any longer.
	I could continue this for hours and we will have him back in studio because he is one of our regular guests.
	Newsmax's senior strategist, former Secretary of Veterans Affairs and hopefully future cabinet member.
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