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May 24, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka
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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: DeSantis thinks Elon can save him
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So, I'm going to go ahead and get started.
Let's say a Musk comes out and says, I don't think we should have a president above the age of 69.
Okay, seven years old.
Rogan.
Hey, you know, DeSantis more than Trump, right?
Some of these guys.
How much influence today with the social, you're seeing Trump being on Nelk Boys and you know, 10 million views and this is a younger audience that you're appealing to that you go into places like that.
How much influence do the right endorsements have in a presidential election?
Like if Musk said, I'm team DeSantis 100% and let's just say he gave I don't know, let's pick a number.
50 million, 100 million dollars.
Okay, to a pack.
And I'm going DeSantis.
Or I'm going Trump.
Vice, how much influence does a person like that have?
If I could answer that, I would not be sitting here.
I would be, you know, flying my helicopter around tropical islands with my kids.
You know, that is the question.
Do you think Trump should debate the other guys on the Republican side?
You know what?
One of the things I'm very grateful to President Trump for, apart from hiring me, is do you remember how fun politics was?
He made politics fun again.
Those primaries were awesome.
I mean, I would love to see 30 people on the primary debate stage.
It's like, you know, WWF.
Let's do it.
Bring it.
And you think he would welcome that?
Yeah, he loves that stuff!
That's the part I agree with.
Because a lot of people are saying the fact that Trump's not going to do, you know, the debates and all that.
I think he's looking forward to it.
Because for him, you ever seen him being roasted?
You know, what is that when they do the roast and Snoop gets up there and all these guys are roasting him.
The gridiron.
And he just sits there and he takes it.
You know, most people are not brave enough to be roasted.
I actually think he is a roaster.
And I think a natural roaster.
I think he can't wait to roast.
All these guys on the right with the debate.
But, going back to the question.
Yeah.
Going back to the question.
You still haven't answered it.
No, because I don't think I... It's just your opinion.
I'm not looking for a factual statement.
I would be super excited if Elon said, yeah, Trump's the guy.
But I don't think it really makes a difference.
I don't think people walk in to the ballot box and say, yeah, I'm voting for Ron.
But I agree.
But I don't disagree.
But here's the question.
I don't disagree if anybody endorses Trump, meaning The Trump vote, no one cares if you endorse him.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
But what matters is to DeSantis.
Oh, DeSantis.
So if a Musk says, I'm DeSantis and here's 50, 100 million bucks, how big of an endorsement is that for DeSantis?
I'll give you my answer.
Please.
It's irrelevant.
Well, there you have it.
That's where I was yesterday.
Thank you to Bob France for standing in.
He said something to me earlier today by text that my team were great.
I don't know why people say that.
Welcome to America First.
That was a little bit of mentalism there by Patrick David, the host of the podcast I went to be on for two hours yesterday asking me about DeSantis and Elon Musk were allegedly in about 2 hours and 40 minutes there's gonna be a Twitter space where DeSantis announces with Elon Musk hosting the Twitter space breaking news is that the FEC have received a filing from the DeSantis campaign and I've been chewing over this with the greatest minds in politics all morning and I want to get the man who has the best kind of political funny bone in the business we call him Mr. G and he's in
Welcome in studio, Jeff.
Great to be here.
It's great to walk all the way over here.
How was the commute?
Was it good?
It was easy.
Alright, so let's unpack this for a minute.
We're going to talk about it with a buddy, raise a fist, later today in the third hour.
We're going to talk to Andy Sarabian, my former White House colleague.
But first things first, Twitter.
Twitter, you know me, I'm an addict.
Yes.
You didn't have to be that quick.
Even he's got an account.
But it is, it's an elitist platform for people in the media and for people in politics.
And also, Twitter Space is audio.
There's no video clips you can make from it.
What do you think of this idea that this is where he's making the announcement and not at some big rally or not on some video?
It's not actually, I don't think it's that bad of an idea.
I think it's not the fact, I understand there's not videos, not that type of stuff, you're not going to have the crowd.
But I think the point is not that it's on Twitter, it's the fact that Elon Musk is hosting it.
I think that's good, he thinks that's going to give him a little bit of a bump.
Right, right.
I think that this is more important for Elon than it is for Ron.
Absolutely, 100%.
Because he needs to bring people to this platform he's acquired.
And he loves the Twitter spaces.
As soon as he got the platform, he started the Twitter spaces, the Twitter files.
He's trying to bring people in this way.
I think it's 100% more Elon wanting DeSantis to make this announcement on Twitter.
Are you excited that the announcement is happening?
No, I am glad.
I'm glad that it's finally here.
We've been talking about it for six months.
Yeah, we have.
Anything else with regards to... Why did it take so long, Geoff?
This is weird because we've been joking about this every day that, oh yeah, it's this week he says he's going to announce.
Oh no, it's this week he's going to announce.
What took him so long?
This is the whole inside game, the inside baseball, the politics that the whole DeSantis camp thinks that a lot of the country doesn't pay attention to.
Think about what he did the last six weeks.
All these things that he's doing in the legislative session.
He thought that that was going to translate.
Look, this is miniature.
He's doing everything that Trump would do, but he's doing it more.
He's getting it done.
He thought that that was going to carry them in the polls.
And that's made no impact at all.
No.
All right.
Let's get one clip.
Your reaction to this.
This is someone I've never heard of.
Allegedly he was a donor to the Trump campaign previously.
He's a rich, rich guy called Hal Lambert.
Of course he's invited onto Fox now to say what?
Cut six.
Play cut.
That we want to unite the country, and we can't have name-calling.
We've got to move to, you know, an adult conversation on real issues, and I think DeSantis brings that to the table.
If you look at a DeSantis versus Biden, I mean, it's a very stark contrast.
It's the next generation moving forward, and I think that's what the American people are ultimately going to decide that they want to have.
I just don't think we want to see a Biden-Trump re-election battle, and I think Donald Trump should drop out of the race, quite frankly.
For the better of the country, I think he should drop out of the race.
Well, yeah, that's not gonna happen, Mr. Lambert, founder of Point Bridge Capital.
Of course, that was on the Cavuto show, but this idea...
No more name-calling, and we need a new generation.
Your reaction? When do donors go on TV, Jeff?
And drop out when a guy's up 40 points to his nearest competitor.
It makes zero sense whatsoever.
And the one thing that's going to be trouble for Ron is all these polls.
Forget about that he's up 30 or 40.
Trump's in the higher 50s to 60 points.
He's been around for seven years.
By now you've made up your mind with Trump.
Everything they've thrown at him in the last seven years, if you haven't gotten off the Trump bandwagon now... If they haven't pushed you off, it's not going to happen.
It's not going to happen now.
So there's not even enough votes to get if he gets all the undecideds or the other candidates.
Bingo.
Nailed it.
All right, let's go back in time.
I found this earlier today.
This is from the 1990s on the Larry King show, just to tell you, just to show to you how Donald Trump has been on message for 30 years about America.
Cut 12.
Why aren't these countries, these wealthy money machines paying us for the defense of their freedom and their nations?
The concept of America financing and paying and losing lives for countries that won't even allow us to use their ships, and these are the countries that in 24 hours they'd be wiped off the face of the earth if it weren't for America, it's ridiculous.
We don't give anything to our farmers, the homeless are all over the streets of the major cities, the sick and the problems, and yet we'll give billions of dollars in defending countries that have five times more money than we can ever hope to have.
This country shouldn't be raising taxes, we ought to be lowering taxes.
If you look at the payments that we're making to NATO, they're totally disproportionate with everybody else's, and it's ridiculous.
This country is busted.
And it's busted because we're doing things that we shouldn't be doing.
If we had business ability in this country, we'd be making lots of profit, so-called surplus.
That money could be going to defend our homeless and our poor and our sick and our farmers.
Wow!
Did you hear that?
From national security, whose defenses we're paying for, who we're not helping here in America.
That's the man.
You know it is.
But we're going to have a great primary and it's going to be fun.
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Of course.
Does Gaudi have a show now?
I thought he always did, didn't he?
No.
No, no, no.
He has a Sunday night show, but he's been... He did one of the weeks, I think, for Tucker.
It might be this week.
Oh, let's see some of the cuts.
Cut four.
Cut four.
And five.
He's calling us.
Democrat. He's calling us. Okay. America that Donald Trump is not going to beat come election
day. Look, that great blue wall that they talked about so many times that Donald Trump
destroyed in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and Michigan. That's going to come down again
because they've seen the draconian policies of the Biden administration and what they've
done to promote once again, these wars across America and lose our standing across the world.
Here's cut five. I don't think DeSantis can beat Joe Biden.
As a matter of fact, I know he can't beat Joe Biden because I think that the MAGA movement, the America First movement, is so turned off by what they've seen from him and the people who are surrounding DeSantis that I'm not sure that they would vote for him in a general.
I hate to say that, but I'm concerned about us beating Biden.
And I know for a fact that Donald J. Trump can beat Joe Biden.
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It's harder to find more MAGA, more America First individuals than the next two clips I'm going to play for you.
One is Corey Lewandowski, the man who invited me to Trump Tower June 2015 to meet candidate Trump, to prep him for the National Security GOP debates.
And then Carrie Lake, who's just a MAGA monster, America's first warrior princess.
Their reaction to what's going to happen in a couple of hours.
Cut 4, Corey.
There is no Democrat in America that Donald Trump is not going to beat come election day.
Look, that great blue wall that they talked about so many times that Donald Trump destroyed in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and Michigan, that's going to come down again because they've seen the draconian policies of the Biden administration and what they've done to promote, once again, these wars across America and lose our standing across the world.
Right, no Democrat can beat President Trump.
What about our side?
Carrie Lake, cut five.
I don't think DeSantis can beat Joe Biden.
As a matter of fact, I know he can't beat Joe Biden.
Because I think that the MAGA movement, the America First movement, is so turned off by what they've seen from him and the people who are surrounding DeSantis that I'm not sure that they would vote for him in a general.
I hate to say that, but I'm concerned about us beating Biden.
And I know for a fact that Donald J. Trump can beat Joe Biden.
Is she right about DeSantis?
Is he right about President Trump?
Let's ask one of the minds I respect the most when it comes to domestic politics.
We shared an office space in the White House.
Addie Sarabian!
It's been too long!
Welcome back to America First!
Thanks so much for having me on this big day today, Seb.
Yeah, are you excited about what's going to happen in a couple of hours?
Well, I'm less excited about that and a lot more excited about the reaction to that that will probably be coming
from our From our old friend. I don't know if he's in Bedminster or
Mar-a-Lago right now, but I'm sure we can expect some fireworks
To get lit off once DeSantis You know officially officially jumped in this thing with
his event later today Let's talk about the event because you made some amazing
I chewed your ear for about half an hour earlier today and you made some amazing
Observations which of course is what I expected from you about doing it on Twitter spaces
Isn't that a strange choice if you're trying to talk to as many people from all across America as possible?
Well, a couple of things.
One, it's very clear to me That DeSantis is trying to do something different because him and his campaign realized that they need a pop.
I mean, he's been crashing in the polls.
I don't know that I've ever seen such a dramatic crash in the polls in such a short period of time.
I mean, even today, there was a poll out of CNN of all places.
And in March, CNN actually had DeSantis leading President Trump by two points.
When they pulled it?
Well, the poll that came out today shows President Trump leading DeSantis by, I think, 27 points.
That is a 29-point swing.
So my point is, it's very clear that his team recognizes that they need to try to do something different to get some sort of pop with this announcement.
But what I question is whether the idea of doing a Twitter space is actually the type of outside-the-box thinking that will get them anywhere.
One, we are talking about a medium that's not even video-oriented.
It's an audio space.
So local news, cable news, they're not going to be able to grab it.
Or just people who support him can't take a video clip and put it on Instagram.
Exactly.
And then you get to the problem that Twitter, as far as big social networks go, is actually very, very small.
There's also been studies done showing that the user base of Twitter is very left-leaning.
There aren't a lot of conservatives on Twitter, so the amount of people who even have a Twitter account in this country is estimated at 50 million.
That's nothing in a country of 300 million people.
To put it in perspective, I think Newsmax is in more households than that.
I think Newsmax is probably in, like, 60 or 70 million households.
So, to me, it's a very strange choice.
I think he also very much risks getting overshadowed by elon musk look like you are not the fascinating guy
that is part of the reason why they wanted to use him for that because they
know don't draw eyeballs but i don't know if you've got
i'm a whole lot more interesting hearing what you want to have to pay them what
ron at the fact that you're watching the press And when you're a part of the presidential campaign, that's
a real problem.
Yeah, and also it's live.
Elon's going to ask questions.
The people on the Twitter spaces will allegedly get to ask questions and that could be very,
very risky.
We're talking to Andy Sarabian, my dear colleague from the White House, a Republican strategist.
Follow him at Sarabies on Twitter.
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Andy, we've got like a minute and a half left.
What is the possible answer for that massive drop of more than 20 points?
I look at his reaction to the Alvin Bragg indictment, which was really dishonorable, and I look at his complete 180 on Ukraine in the space of about three days.
Am I missing something?
Yeah, I actually think you're missing something a little bit more fundamental.
Ron DeSantis gained popularity among Republican voters because for three years he tied himself to Donald Trump.
Republican voters think it's Ron DeSantis because they viewed him as a warrior for Donald Trump.
But the moment it became clear, the moment it became clear that Ron DeSantis is actually now the foil of Donald Trump, the guy trying to destroy the MAGA movement, the guy trying to take Trump down, Just as the radical left is trying to put him in jail, that's
when you started seeing the numbers drop.
I think this is a fundamental problem for DeSantis' campaign.
He needs to win over all the never-Trumpers in the party, which is a small slice, while
also winning over pro-Trump voters.
That's an impossible coalition to hold, in my opinion.
See, I knew he had an answer and I knew it would be superb.
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Let's enjoy Bayhart's such a fool. I'm going to play a little bit of Bayhart's. I'm going
I don't even understand what that lady's talking about.
She's never walked a day in my shoes or Tim Scott's shoes or anybody else that's black in this country.
All she's doing is running her mouth so she can keep her paycheck on The View.
Period.
That's what's going on.
And if you think I'm wrong, Joy, bring me on the show and let's get into it and we can do it live on The View.
But that being said, I'm sick of these people.
What was he reacting to, Jeff?
What did she say yesterday?
It's the Florida Travel Ban, the NAACP.
Yeah, she said that blacks are suffering in Florida, right?
She said something, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, next.
Oh, can you see the call screen?
Yes.
Yeah.
...leading the way.
You never had to worry about whether the bill would pass.
She said she had the votes.
She had the votes every time.
She had the votes so many life-changing pieces of legislation.
She helped rescue the economy in the Great Depression.
Oh my God, did he actually say that?
Yep.
He actually said that?
He was trying to say the Great Recession, because that's what Obama used to call it.
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You're not educating sh**.
This is f****** propaganda.
What are you going to do, like anti-trans next, or something in the next?
I mean, no, we're talking about abortion.
This is b******.
This is violent.
You're triggering my feelings.
I'm sorry about that.
No, you're not, because you can't even have a f****** baby.
And you don't even know what that is.
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Get this s*** out of here, man.
F*** this shit.
France played that on the show yesterday, too.
Did you see her with the machete?
I saw that fit!
That's the same one?
Yeah!
The same woman!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Without the dyed grey dreadlocks.
I'd love to again.
Because that was back in May.
Yeah, it's resurfaced.
There's a girl standing behind the table too, but she only goes for the guy, for obvious reasons.
And she's a bigot, because she said a man can't have a baby.
Cut, 13.
She's a gentleman, she went after the boy, not the girl.
This is the worst graduation of my life.
This is a campaign speech.
Isn't this crazy, Jeff?
But do you have regrets about the withdrawal from Afghanistan?
I support the President's decision.
Do you have regrets about their withdrawal?
Can you tell me what topic 2 is?
I can't read it on the call screen.
Just wants to know why the GOP hasn't done anything about the 83,000 IRS agents.
Okay.
And then 3 is?
3 wants to know if you're going to attack Mark Levin now because he says he's supposedly supporting DeSantis.
Just because he's having DeSantis on his show today.
Good.
Titles Cut a block was yeah Jeff on and Sanis. What's a good title
for that?
Mmm... something else.
Something to the point of like, yo, everyone who knows that they're gonna vote for Trump is gonna vote for him.
B, Andy, why DeSantis has plummeted in the polls.
The real reason DeSantis is cratering.
The real reason DeSantis is cratering.
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Let's go to your calls, Glenn in Arizona.
Welcome, Glenn.
Yes, sir.
So, Mark Levin is going to have DeSantis on today.
Mark Levin was a huge Trump supporter.
Another person, I'll give you an example, is Ken Cuccinelli.
You used to have him on your show.
He was a big Trump supporter.
And now he's on the, I believe it's called the Never Back Down Pack for Ron DeSantis.
Correct.
And all I'm saying is, there are people that, even myself, I was a big Trump supporter.
And my question for you is, Are you going to start attacking these people that have a different perspective for the primary?
No, because I'm not a communist or a fascist.
Are you, Glenn?
I believe.
I believe in primaries and I believe in people having the right to their own opinion.
Do you not believe in that, Glenn?
No, I do, but... So why are you asking a stupid question?
Why would I attack Mark Levin where last week, last week, he had President Trump on his show for an hour and he said, this is the most amazing interview I've ever done.
We actually played the clip here.
Did you not listen to that, Glenn?
Why are you asking stupid questions in front of three and a half million people making yourself look stupid?
Why would I attack Mark Levin after he said this is the greatest interview of my life just because he's having Ron DeSantis on his show?
What a dumb question, Glenn.
Okay, thank you.
Goodbye.
Let's go to Deborah, North Carolina.
Hey, I'm a first-time caller.
Welcome!
I love your show.
Thank you.
I love your show.
Listen, every day, if I can, here's what I want to say.
I want to say, yes, I'm a Trump person, and yes, I can't wait for our president to get back in there and be a real president.
Also, I want to say that instead of hiring 80,000 IRS agents, Biden, I hope you hear this, hire 80,000 processors for these people that come across the border and hire retired attorneys to be arbitration judges.
Yeah, well, that's pointless because they don't... I met an immigration judge last year, Deborah, And I'd never met an immigration judge before in my life.
It was at a friend's party.
And I said, what's it like to be an immigration judge right now?
And he said, pointless.
Because I'm told to rubber stamp every illegal that comes into my court.
So Debra, you're making it sound as if Biden wants to fix things.
He doesn't want to fix things.
He wants 20, 30 million illegals in America.
Why are you thinking that he has good faith?
No, he doesn't have good faith.
Not at all.
But it's an idea he needs to look at and process.
But why would he do that if he wants to destroy America, Deborah?
He's trying to win the election again.
Hang on.
He hates America.
Why would he want to protect America?
I know he does.
Then why would I even waste my breath on suggesting something to him that would make America safer?
He hates America.
Anything you suggest to him, he's not going to listen.
It goes right into the trash can.
Right, so what's the point?
Let's just crush them at the election.
Well, yeah, I'm going to, all I can.
No, it's not all you can.
You can run for local election like my wife did and won, won on Saturday for her local community center board after the drag queen story hour for children so infuriated her.
It's not just voting, Deborah.
I'm trying to be very clear.
Every week on this show, if you're not engaged actively in politics, all three and a half million of you listening, you're on the side of the Democrats.
It's not about voting every two years.
It's not about writing a check for the local candidate.
It's about you being part of the solution, Debra.
Will you do that?
I try to be.
I try to be.
I try to tell people.
Good.
Dr. Gorka, I'm almost 72 years old.
Doesn't matter!
That's 72 years young!
Stay on the line.
First-time caller, you deserve a signed copy of Defeating Jihad.
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The last two weeks, all the polls show the opposite of what they've been saying.
Yep.
There's three polls that have Trump plus seven and DeSantis tied.
Well, remember what Barris revealed?
Mm-hmm.
That the white suburban women are coming back to Trump.
Yes, he's plus three now.
Yeah, Trump's plus three with them.
Some are pointing out that that could be because DeSantis just passed out, like, what, a six-week abortion ban bill?
I don't think they follow politics that closely.
You don't think so?
I still think half the country doesn't know who DeSantis is.
Back in February, it was 42% recognized him by a picture.
And it was 60% name recognition.
Again, and I was saying this yesterday, even if you go down just the first four primary states, Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Nevada, there's no path for DeSantis to win those four.
Trump wins all four of those easily, and then DeSantis has no momentum.
PhD.
Oh my gosh, there's a video of a guy putting on one of the tuckable swimsuits in Target as a joke.
As a joke?
Oh, it's that lunatic!
Alex Stein?
Alex Stein!
I just, I knew that's who you were talking about!
I swear that guy has mental issues.
Chrissy Mayer was the first one I think who kind of pointed it out and made it go viral when she went into Target and just pointed it out in a video.
I do like Alex Stein.
He's nuts, but he's... No, he's a psycho.
I mean, his expressions when people are spitting on him and beating him up, he's not normal.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
It's clown world in a nutshell.
He just smiles as the world burns.
Yeah.
A man doesn't react like that.
Time for the monologue with Jeff.
Yeah, so with Jeff, what was the most important thing?
Solomon's phone, by the way.
All right, so let's... Oh, what do we know?
Oh, actually, hold on.
He has a spot now.
He can change his code.
Oh, crap.
Oh, okay.
Something like... The point about how voters have made up their minds already about... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was the most important point.
The truth about Trump 2024.
Everyone has already decided.
Mm-hmm That's something to people point out like oh the Santa's
one so big in Florida Just remind them.
The rest of the United States is not like Florida.
What on earth is line 5?
P-sig at what?
Geoff.
It's because there's different... It's...
On the side of the US Congress.
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I don't know how... I know Nancy Pelosi isn't a spring chicken, but she... I don't think she was around during the Great Depression, but Joe Biden thinks she was.
Listen to what he just said.
Cut 10!
With Nancy leading the way, you never had to worry about whether the bill would pass.
She said she had the votes.
She had the votes every time.
She had to vote so many life-changing pieces of legislation.
She helped rescue the economy in the Great Depression.
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I call fake news.
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Are you still at the NRB?
Where are you, John Solomon?
We are.
I'm in Orlando, Florida at the National Religious Broadcasters Conference.
It's been an amazing week here, Seb.
So much passion to save this country, so much passion to go find truth and get it in front of the American people.
It's been an invigorating week, and I'm on the set right here at NRB.
Have you been to the NRB before?
I have.
I've been to several of them.
I've never seen an energy... By the way, the size is enormous.
I think over 4,000 people.
One of the largest NRB conferences I've ever been to.
Enormous energy.
And I'll tell you one of the things a lot of people are talking about, a lot of pastors here, there is a determination for Republicans to win not only the day of vote, but the early vote.
Everybody here is talking about it.
Everyone's oaring in the same direction.
They're going to have a different approach to the 2024 election.
I'm pretty sure of that.
Well, President Trump has said that, that in those states where we can't fix it so it's an election day, we have to be as organized as the Democrats.
You had him on your show recently.
Newsmaker, interviewer, headline here.
Let me just read what he said, or what he said on your show.
Trump vows to reduce abortions through incentivized adoptions.
Fascinating.
And says the Roe reversal gives pro-life movement an upper hand.
Now, you have the best connections in DC, in the media world.
Everybody has to follow you at Jay Solomon Reports.
I'm hearing conflicting takes about this year and next year's election.
As a pro-life conservative, a Catholic myself, I think the issue of abortion is kind of done and dusted.
Nobody expected this victory 50 years after this abysmal decision.
It's gone back to the states where it should be.
It should be the states.
They get to decide on this issue.
Some others are telling me, oh, this is the real Achilles heel of the GOP or of the Republicans or President Trump.
The abortion issue will be used to smack them over the head.
What are you hearing?
I don't buy that.
What are you sensing about this issue in the elections?
Well, listen, Democrats are going to try to use it because they can't run on Joe Biden's record, right?
They can't run on the economy.
It's a disaster.
Security because the border is bad.
So they're going to try to demagogue on the issue of abortion and try to suggest to women that Republicans, conservatives don't care about them and want to take away abortion from them.
Each state's going to do what each state's going to do.
And I think that's what made the interview with President Trump so remarkable to me.
He put a very big idea on the table.
John Kennedy gave us the Peace Corps, right?
Bill Clinton gave us the Job Corps.
Donald Trump wants to create the parent score.
He wants to get thousands upon thousands of parents pre-approved and trained and ready to be ready parents, adoptive parents, and then create tax incentives on both sides so that a mother struggling to decide whether to abort their child or keep their child and give it up, hit him or her up for adoption, that she'd have an option.
She'd have some financial sustenance.
She might get a tax break.
For taking your child to term and giving it to a loving family and then the other side to increase the tax incentives already available for parents so that more parents step into the void and we save children.
Hungary didn't change any of its laws but over the last several years they've been able to reduce abortion a lot.
What Donald Trump says is, listen, the states are going to do what the states are going to do.
As president, if I get put back in the White House, I can reduce abortion just like I made Roe v. Wade go away.
Amazing, amazing idea, the Parents Corps.
John, let's flip topics.
You've been covering the whistleblowers.
We had one of them on the show for an hour last week, one of the brave whistleblowers from the FBI.
And the expectation was from our guests that at least our testimony will make others consider telling the truth and being whistleblowers.
Now it turns out there's another IRS whistleblower with regards to Hunter Biden.
What is your expectation for the coming months?
Could we see a trend, a pattern of more people saying enough with the corruption?
Yes, listen, I think there are agents who don't feel it's worth wearing the badge if they can't enforce the law evenly and honestly.
They don't look at the person, they look at the crime.
And we knew there was a supervisory senior IRS agent, and when I broke that story, I reported there were others who were going to support his story.
One of those others, a subordinate IRS agent working as a criminal agent below the supervisory agent, he too has come forward saying, listen, for more than two years, FBI and IRS agents have been prevented from following the normal investigative techniques that we use to investigate tax evasion because it was Hunter Biden.
And every time we went to the IRS director for help or IRS supervisors, we got none.
We were left on an island.
We're not allowed to be doing our job.
Now you have two of those whistleblowers.
The more senior one, the one that we broke a month ago, he's going to testify as early as Friday behind closed doors with the House Ways and Means Committee.
When the committee votes his testimony out, the American public are going to see what I know from my reporting.
This is a very serious, serious obstruction of an investigation.
You've got to follow this guy.
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President Trump's... um... um... I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
President Trump's... um... President Trump's plan to save babies from abortion.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, and also title for... For what?
Oh, The Fist of Razors.
Oh, The Fist of Razors.
What was the best point he made about the samples?
There's so many good points.
Yeah.
What should it be?
Come on, Eric, help me out.
I just do the interviews.
There was one point he made that you really liked.
What was it about?
Oh, yeah!
Yeah, yeah, near the end.
What was that?
No, it wasn't the nicknames.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
He was talking about the mail-in ballots, right?
Yeah.
There was a point he made about Trump.
It makes it easier for them to steal or something like that.
No, it was something to do with Trump.
It was something about how Trump beats DeSantis.
Oh, come on, guys.
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Antoinette, line one.
Hey, Dr. G, I know it's not Thursday, but listen, the key thing you said yesterday on that amazing interview on PBD's podcast, and this is what divides the men from the boys, President Trump is loyal.
The census is not loyal.
And that was the key thing, in my opinion, which you said at the end in that interview on that podcast.
Because I'll tell you what, President Trump got Roe versus Wade changed
due to the Supreme Court, those justices.
And with all these other things that's going on, that is key.
And you really won't go Republicans.
You wishy-washy Republicans.
DeSantis is crap.
You gotta go with Trump.
Antoinette, you're a genius.
With your permission, I'm going to tweet exactly that.
President Trump is loyal.
DeSantis isn't.
It is a matter of honor.
Beautifully put.
Let's go to our other super fan, Judy Brooklyn, line five.
I don't know, Anton, that was great.
And I want to tell you, remember Keith?
Keith really fired me up.
Talk about loyalty.
I believe in loyalty.
She's right 100%.
I have three questions.
You don't have three questions.
You have two questions.
You got 70 seconds, my dear.
All right, here we go.
So, is there a special help for evil people, like the January 6th prosecution judges that Julie was talking about, or what happened to, I think his name is Garrett O'Boyle you had on?
Is there a special help for them?
Are they not afraid?
Second question, tell me something, are there any transgenders in the animal kingdom?
You science denier!
You bigot, Judy!
How dare you speak the truth!
I have one more, one more.
John Durham, remember you keep asking, what took him so long?
Well, according to Judge Napolitano, who I'm not a fan of, but I think he now turned around.
No, he turned around.
I think he's a Trump supporter.
He said he deliberately took his time because he wanted the statute of limitations to expire because these establishment people... We have an answer for that.
We have an answer for that.
It's called conspiracy, but he may be right.
Oh, superb job, both of you, Antoinette, Judy.
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One of the, um, fun Pierce Brosnan James Bonds, the opening title credits trying to ape Morris Binder's classic classic Bond opening title sequences, and of course the redoubtable Tina Turner, singing GoldenEye.
May she rest in peace, lost today at 83 years old.
One of the last of the greats, that's all I need to say about her.
Let's discuss that and so much more with my friend across the nation, trying to save California every single day, co-hosting the Morning Answer, Jennifer Horne!
Are you a fan of Tina?
Oh, something you may not know, Seb, is that I used to perform to Tina Turner.
What?
Yeah, usually two shows on the weekends for my parents in my living room, little grade school Jen.
I had a three-act, well, sometimes I throw in a little Janet Jackson at the end, but I had a core.
And my opening song was Borderline by Madonna, where I'd actually put a scarf on the ground and jump back and forth over the borderline scarf.
Hang on, hang on, I need to know.
I'm going to interrupt you now.
Yeah.
Are you making this up just for me?
Are you kidding?
No way!
I would perform every weekend for my parents in the living room.
And I was an only child, so, you know... Well, all the best people are.
Absolutely.
And so they would, you know, I'd sell them tickets.
They'd come and sit on the couch.
You sold your parents tickets?
I'm a capitalist, of course.
How much was a ticket to one of your Tina Turner shows?
Usually a quarter or so.
Not bad.
Not bad.
And you know what?
I'd probably still charge about a quarter for the same routine.
Inflation hasn't hit my performance, so it would open up with Borderline.
Song number two, and I had the full choreographed routine and the high ponytail was What's Love Got to Do With It by my girl Tina Turner.
Wow.
And then the big finish.
Because she was my all time favorite, Cindy Lauper, Girls Just Want to Have Fun.
And that was, you know, I was on tour for months in my own living room.
But I loved in that is serious, by the way, that's not a lie.
But I loved Tina Turner.
And I think I loved and grew to respect her even more after watching her life story, seeing her life story, because as a kid, you were totally unaware of it.
But to see the scope of her talent, and what she overcame, she had a beautiful life filled with success, but she had a lot To deal with.
Tough life.
Tough life.
Now, you know, I'm not a musician.
I played around with the saxophone as a kid.
But, you know, I was in the choir at the Catholic Boys' School as a child.
She's not a Freddie Mercury in terms of, you know, range and whatever.
A lot of her singing was more shouting than anything else.
But there was a power there.
There was a certain raw magnetism that I think separated her from the rest.
You know, I think there were a lot of female singers who were very sweet.
Yeah.
And they were very soft.
And Tina Turner was one of the first kind of rocky, even though she did it more in the pop and the soul genre, she was a rocky singer.
And I think she paved the way for many women to get into rock and roll and to find a voice.
I think she was incredibly talented.
I mean, you have to think of Aretha Franklin.
You think of Patti LaBelle.
You think of Tina Turner.
I don't know.
I'm very soft to Tina because I think she was extremely Fun, extremely talented.
She had great style.
No one can ever forget that spiky hair and the leather dresses.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Come on.
It's the steel dress from Mad Max.
The steel bikini.
That's the one.
I'm going to watch Mad Max be on Thunderdome tonight.
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We've got to talk about it.
I don't know why it's such a big deal.
It's like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh.
In a couple of hours the governor of Florida is going to announce, we've been analyzing it for the last hour, we're going to analyze it with our good buddy Razorfist on the one-on-one in the third hour.
Your reaction firstly to Twitter spaces at Elon?
Well, if you listened to the morning answer this morning about 6 a.m., I jumped right in.
If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound?
No.
I like to think of myself as a little savvy.
I've never been on Twitter spaces.
I can't imagine.
And this just tells me that there are people giving Ron DeSantis really bad advice right now.
The comms team is not the top draw.
I'm sorry.
And this is it.
Look, I think I, like you, believe that everybody who wants to jump into the race should.
I bristle with Ron DeSantis because I think he's got people in his ear blowing up his ego when he could finish his role as governor and then maybe make a deal with Trump, become a member of the administration, go on to run for president another four years.
But clearly people are in his ear saying, your time's now, Ron, you must jump in.
You're the guy, Ron.
You're the guy.
You're the only one.
So now he's coming in and he's announcing in a way that I think makes Tim Scott's announcement look really exciting.
And I'm not saying that to be mean to Tim Scott, because I actually really, I mean, I don't agree with 100% of what Tim Scott says, but I think that he's a good man.
Stop, stop, stop, stop.
I'm curious.
What is it you don't agree with, Tim?
Well, no, I think he's gotten a little squishy from time to time.
He turned on Trump a little bit.
I don't always agree with Tim Scott.
He could be an interesting veep.
Yes, I would.
And by the way, when he first started showing political ambition, I threw that out there saying, I think a Trump-Scott ticket would be phenomenal.
And it seems like they get along and that there's some respect there for each other.
That's great.
But he's exciting by comparison to DeSantis on Twitter spaces.
So I have this feeling that the reason DeSantis went, and I'll use air quotes here, outside of the box with Twitter spaces, which is audio only, not video, and then he's going to do a radio interview, and then he's going to go on with Trey Gowdy on Fox News, no offense to Trey.
Why not offend him?
He's a bloody failure after Benghazi.
This is not exactly your exciting announcement.
Hang on, hang on.
It's not exactly MAGA.
It's not exactly MAGA.
If you're America First, if you want to take on the mantle of the man who made you governor, sorry, Trey Gowdy on Fox?
in touch with a spot that everyone is boycotting. Elon Musk is you know making all the right enemies
but he's not exactly you know Seb Gawker or Dan Bongino or you know he's not exactly you know
Jennifer Horne. Even more than that Elon this is brilliant for Elon Musk. Yes. People are actually
talking about Twitter spaces. I don't fault him in this at all but I do question who's in Ron's ear
saying now's the time to jump in and number two you should do it on Twitter.
But here's my theory.
And I hate to give free advice to people, but if I were Ron DeSantis' campaign manager, which I'm not, but if I were, I would say, Ron, you are this governor of Florida.
You crow about all your successes here.
People love what you've done in Florida.
Go someplace in Florida, have a rally, show your skills, and bring your people in.
But you know what I think, Sam?
What?
I think he's afraid.
I think he's afraid to do a rally a la Tim Scott.
Tim Scott's rally looked pretty dang good.
Why was he afraid?
Because I think he would either not pull people, because even people in Florida, if you look at polling, are supporting Trump over DeSantis.
He may not pull anybody.
And if he does, I think there's a very good chance he could be afraid that Trump supporters would get in and ruin his rally with MAGA Trump chants.
And I think he is weaning out on this.
I think he's a little weeny.
I don't think he wants to take the risk of a live crowd.
Ron, are you a little weenie?
We need to know, Ron.
Don't you think?
Are you a little weenie?
Look, here is the thing that my former White House colleague Andy Sarabian pointed out to me, who is literally one of the smartest political minds in America today.
And I didn't even think about it because I still don't see myself as a media guy.
I'm a national security guy who's been blessed by the good Lord to have this show and the Newsmax show.
And the first thing you said to me is, His campaign, and even his supporters, even his surrogates, can't even make video clips of the announcement because there's not going to be any video!
I mean, how stupid are you?
This is amazingly true.
And by the way, and there's no hit on Mark Levin, who I'm so excited gets the interview with Rhonda Sanders, and good for him, he should talk to everybody.
But the fact is, you don't have video, you don't have vibrant clips, you don't have what you want people to start sharing immediately to gain momentum.
And by the way, a loud and live crowd will do that for you.
He could have been at the Florida State House.
He could have been in front of a school.
He could have been in Disney World saying, I'm challenging the mouse.
He could have been anywhere that would have brought some excitement.
He could have had a pay-per-view MMA fight with Mickey the Mouse in a cage.
I just think he is afraid that Trump supporters would either try to ruin it or that no one would show because there was a friendly crowd for Tim Scott.
We never got to see how big it was, but no one in politics can compare to the crowd size of Donald Trump.
Great analysis.
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Is he afraid?
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Well, does he have a little weenie?
It's Ron and Weenie.
Is Ron a weenie?
Is meatball Ron also a weenie?
There you go!
That's it!
I like meatball Ron.
Some people said, ew, that's offensive.
I'm like, oh, that's funny.
I don't understand.
What's the reference?
I think maybe because he's Italian.
It's an Italian last name.
Yeah.
If you're like on Jersey Shore, they would call all the people meatballs, like you're a little meatball.
So, maybe.
Not that I've ever seen Jersey Shore, of course.
Never.
All right.
We've got to talk Dodgers.
Yeah.
We got to talk.
Breaking my heart.
I'm going to play cut 13 at the top, but I'll tee it up.
What else?
What else?
How much of a stud is your wife?
Oh my gosh!
I am just so proud.
Thank you!
She texted me on Saturday and I was like, I was so excited.
I'm so proud of her.
She was awesome.
And they were so afraid of us this year, they didn't even run against us.
That's how afraid they were.
I think it was great she ran as that little threesome.
I think that's a great idea.
Yes, that's how you do it.
Today's her first thing, first session.
Oh, that's fun.
They jump you right into work.
I know, I know.
Busy bees.
That's supposed to be like a three-month transition period.
Right.
We've got to get rid of that garbage.
Three-month transitions.
Insane.
Totally insane.
The UK can do it in three days.
We have three months.
It's nuts.
If that.
All right.
Well, they have to hide all the bodies, you know, before the new guy can come in.
They have to remove all the W's from the keyboards.
That's right.
OK.
The whistleblower we've discussed.
We're going to do that.
Oh, Target.
We've got to talk.
Let's talk Target, Dodgers, Sam Brinton, DeSantis we've done, PBD we've done.
That's a lot for a nine minute segment.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We can do it.
Have we worked out what I said with Razor?
I still can't.
I'm still doing other editing.
I haven't had a chance to review it yet.
What do you mean?
I mean, seriously, are there not two of you?
Come on.
Get busy.
He works hard and he thinks that's an excuse.
You're taking too much time to breathe.
He works hard and he thinks that's an excuse.
I know.
I know.
Please.
No crying.
No crying in baseball.
I got up at three o'clock this morning.
What about you?
God, I haven't gotten up at three o'clock in a long time, and I've done it every day this week.
Why?
It hurts, because I was filling in on that show that I used to do this week, just a few days to help someone out.
Yeah, I really like sleeping into 4.30.
I'm a slacker now.
Oh my gosh, I could not do your job.
Oh please, you never sleep.
You're like the boss.
No, but mornings, I like my slow mornings.
What's your normal wake-up time?
It depends.
Today it was seven.
Okay, that's very sensible.
But when you go to sleep at two, it's not.
Not sensible.
No.
See, I would naturally be a night person if I could be.
Oh really?
Oh yeah.
I get so much done.
My brain switches on at nine o'clock.
Yeah.
It's really, I mean, it's strange.
I've always been like that.
Right, I'm going to tee up 13 and we've got what here?
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We are back with the one and only Jennifer Horne, my Salem colleague, the
person who keeps Los Angeles and California sane.
Follow her at Jennifer Horne on Twitter right now.
What do you think of social media?
Are you on it too much like me?
You're on it a lot.
I need to be on it more, actually.
You know, I get so distracted with other things, so my concerted effort is to do more social media.
You have a life.
That's the difference.
I have a lot of work.
I don't have a life.
You work.
That's not true.
You're the hardest person in radio.
But sometimes, you know, it actually has a benefit.
Rarely, but sometimes it does.
This was sent to me.
So do you remember Howard University, like 10 days ago, where Biden said, the biggest threat to America is white supremacy, despite not being able to talk about, you know, what the white supremacist threat is.
There were students at this historic black college in the audience who filmed in real time their reaction to the Biden commencement speech.
And it's golden.
Fabulous.
Cut 13.
This is the worst graduation of my life.
This is a campaign speech.
A campaign speech.
You got this white man here, Howard.
What is going on?
I would have given a better speech.
I did give a better speech at my high school graduation.
My high school graduation.
I'm disappointed.
Howard, you disappointed us.
Tremendous.
Today I had Michael Jordan.
We could have somebody who actually did something good for... Something good for the black community.
You feel me?
They're in their gowns, they're in their caps, they're saying, I gave a better speech in high school!
Howard, you have disappointed us.
That's just golden, isn't it?
It was golden.
And you heard the woman say, how about Beyonce?
And then they started making other suggestions.
They wanted LeBron James, and they wanted Michael Jordan.
We've got this old white guy doing a campaign speech.
Thanks a lot, Howard.
All right, just had to share that with you.
Well, he's the president.
You'd think they'd be happier.
I know.
Yesterday I had a guest host in.
I was traveling, and Bob Franz spent about three hours talking about the Dodgers.
Jennifer, got to be close to your heart.
Talk to us about this disgusting team.
He should have called me.
Well, I can't call him disgusting.
You have to understand something.
Born and bred.
I mean, the first verse, I heard two voices.
I heard my mom's voice, my dad's voice, and the third voice was Vin Scully.
I am a Dodger fan through and through.
I love the team.
I watch the games.
I bleed Dodger blue.
So imagine.
And this is a team, by the way, that normally honors police officers, veterans in every game.
This is about as non-woke a team as you can find.
So the idea that they're promoting blasphemous assaults on Christianity, do you still love them?
No, and this is what's killing me.
I'm having a very, very sad week because, if you haven't heard, the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence are a group of individuals who are pretty unsightly.
They dress as nuns, they dress as priests, and they carry on.
Now, they call themselves a charitable group, and we actually dug into them on The Morning Answer.
They give to some good causes, they give to some bad causes.
What makes me furious is that the Dodgers invite them not just to come to LGBTQ night, but they are going to give them a Community Hero Award.
The Dodgers then listen to their fans, who by the way are primarily Hispanic, and I would venture to say probably definitely Catholic, more Catholics than our You know, transgender activists in the Dodger crowd, right?
And so they listen to their fans and they uninvite them.
Well, then the mayor of Anaheim gets involved in this.
Not a lot of people are talking about nationally.
The mayor of Anaheim, who is a known leftist, gets involved and says, well, if the Dodgers won't take you, we'll invite you to the Angel game for Pride Night.
And.
The owner of the Angels, by the way, very conservative, so that went nowhere.
But that was enough pressure for the Dodgers then to say, you know what, we made a mistake and now we're going to have these people back again.
And so what makes me mad, first of all, why we have to be so dang divisive to be inclusive.
Because you can't tell me that there is another religion where it would be acceptable for people dressed like that to wear religious garb.
You can't tell me that people dressed like that wearing a yarmulke or a turban on their head would not have people going over the moon apoplectic.
It seems that Catholics are the only group that somehow can be discriminated against and everybody just laughs and yucks it off.
So I'm really disappointed in the Dodgers, but I also have to say that they're marketing people.
I know some of them personally.
I know some of their team management.
This is not surprising.
All right.
So is there any coming back from this or do we just chuck them in the garbage?
You know, I'm going to be really interested to see how they handle it on Pride Night.
I don't know.
It's unclear to me if they're going to give them an award.
I don't know.
The spectacle is that for inclusivity, we divide people and discriminate.
And I don't see how that is a positive message.
And I really hope that the Dodger fans, who I believe are probably at least 50 percent Hispanic and Catholic, most likely, are going to say, hey, enough is enough and actually push back and either boycott that night or make it clear to the team that this is OK.
Because I don't think it should be a reflection on the team.
This needs to be a question about why we are demanding woke politics in every aspect of life, including baseball.
All right, guys.
You heard it here.
If you're a Dodgers fan, let's boycott them.
Follow this lady's lead.
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I think people like the Dodgers too much, but I do think that there will probably be
be pushed back that night.
Do you know how ridiculous this is?
I told you how California is a feather alert for lost Indians.
Do you know what they did on Hispanic Pride Night at Dodger Stadium?
They gave out ponchos.
Oh, come on.
How offensive is that?
I mean, it's just, this is what I mean.
Like, in an effort to find inclusivity, they are dividing and stereotyping and discriminating.
It's nuts.
The idea that, you know, these comms teams... Well, the marketing guy is the trouble.
So look up the marketing guy.
He used to work at KFI, KBC.
He's a radio guy.
And I think his strong feelings are showing through.
How did Judge Jeanine do?
Oh, she was great.
Good.
I love her, though.
I think she's fun to talk to, and I don't know.
I'm a fan of hers.
I think she's good.
Does she have a new book, or what was it?
Yeah.
OK.
It's about saving the country from the left.
You know, something around.
I'm just kidding.
It's something along those lines, basically how they're using crime and disruption to take over the country, so how to save the republic from that.
But she was great.
She's always fun.
Good.
I'm glad to see that.
All right.
Well, you guys, we missed you yesterday.
I know.
I know.
Sorry.
I'm all I was traveling.
And I just last minute and then I said the wrong thing in the email.
So anyway, you understood what I was trying to say.
Oh, you just said you were traveling couldn't be on but I said, can do today instead of Oh, yeah, no, I got that.
And then you saw me and I said travel staff.
People always give me hell for my typos on social media and I always say the same thing.
Don't you have something more important to text me about?
Exactly.
And secondly, it proves I'm not a bot.
Roll with it.
Right.
It's human.
And my problem is either I'm using voice and it hears me wrong or I hit the wrong button and I press send so fast that, you know.
My issue is I got fat fingers and I never re-read it.
But no, I understand.
I got the communique.
It was fine.
It was like our own special code.
Thank you.
Just like when I said...
you you
you Have you seen the latest news?
Target is going balls out for keeping your balls in.
The retail giant is now selling women's bathing suits that are tuck friendly for ladies with penises.
I know, who knew this was in such high demand?
And I always thought shrinkage would solve this problem.
But I guess I didn't realize all these years how many women were suffering in silence.
Wow.
So, pictures and videos of these junk tuckers have gone viral.
Junk tuckers?
Spreading like monkey pox at a pride parade.
You know, I love Greg.
He's one of the handful of decent people left at Fox.
I'm not sure I would have turned this story into a comedy skit or a routine.
If you missed it, have you been under a rock for the last 24 hours?
Target has decided to go one better than Bud Light.
Hold my beer!
I can piss off more customers than you can!
In their children's section, for Pride Month, they have pride clothing, including for little girls, quote-unquote, swimsuits that the label says are designed for tucking, tucking of your genitalia, meaning if you're a little boy, you can pretend to be a girl by tucking between your legs.
Turns out this line of clothing comes from the UK from a company run by a woman who has posted online that she's a Satanist.
Don't believe me?
Look it up.
Target... You're on the wrong side.
We've had enough.
But it's not just the private sector.
The government is out of control.
Earlier today I received a text from America First Legal as the result of a FOIA lawsuit.
New revelations about the State Department and we're delighted to have with us from America First Legal their counsel Michael Ding.
Michael, welcome to America First.
Thank you, Dr. Norka.
Happy to be here with you today.
All right, so we've seen, thanks to the Twitter files and other revelations from Judicial Watch and elsewhere, John Solomon, etc., the government working hand-in-glove with social media to censor, to target private individuals.
Tell us about this FOIA lawsuit and what you have revealed today.
Well, this FOIA lawsuit on behalf of America First Legal is directed towards the State Department and specifically regarding documents from their Global Engagement Center.
As you mentioned, there's been great reporting coming out recently about the Global Engagement Center, which until recently hasn't really been well talked about.
But, you know, as these documents show, and we've released over 500 pages of documents so far, The State Department and the Global Engagement Center works hand-in-glove with an entire international so-called international fact-checking network to more or less impose its talking points and propaganda through the world and including with the U.S.
audience.
Let me just read a couple of the findings.
You can find them on my Twitter feed right now.
So the State Department, the GEC part of the State Department, coordinated with a global cartel of quote-unquote independent fact-checkers led by the Poynter Institute for Media Studies And the fact-checking network, members of this international network, received initial funding from the State Department-funded National Endowment for Democracy, the Omidyar Network, Google, Facebook, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and the George Soros Open Society.
Why is this problematic, Michael?
Well, as we've all seen in the past few years, the so-called fact-checkers Haven't done a great job looking out for our interests.
And they're certainly oppressive to free speech.
But even more troubling is, you know, their so-called independence certainly comes into question at the very least based on who they're funded by.
And you listed off a few names there.
And the disturbing thing there is they don't even try to hide it.
Some of the spinoff groups that they started are also funded by the same players.
The Soros Open Society Foundations, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundations, big tech companies, and of course, unfortunately for us, taxpayer dollars through State Department grants.
And the point here is that these aren't fact-checkers in any way, shape, or form.
These are political organizations that are making political statements about those they don't like and those they do not want to have a say in the public discourse.
Michael Ding, counselor for the America First Legal.
Please, right now, all of our millions of listeners go to AFlegal.org, see the revelations.
They are utterly shocking.
We have to get you or one of your colleagues back for a longer discussion.
That's AFlegal.org.
But in the meantime, thank you for telling us the truth about what the State Department is doing against us with our own money.
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The FBI!
I worked with them for years.
I trained thousands of their agents, of their intelligence analysts, their SOS support staff, to do what?
To fight terrorists.
To investigate crimes.
To catch spies.
Not to do this.
Play Cut 16.
Yeah, sure.
My name's Ashley Roberts and this is Kathleen Brown.
We're both with the FBI.
Okay.
We just need to speak with her regarding some information that was sent in to us.
Okay.
Well, she doesn't live here.
Oh, okay.
So, I mean, she's my daughter, but this isn't her residence currently.
Okay.
Do you mind giving us her residence or her phone number by chance?
Yeah.
Hold on just a second.
Sure.
She's not in any trouble.
She's not in any trouble.
That's why Feds are knocking on her door, flashing their badges.
Who is she?
Is she a mastermind criminal?
Is she head of a cartel?
Is she an international terrorist?
Or a super spy from North Korea?
Well, let's ask her.
Because she's on the line right now.
Elise Ketch!
Welcome to America First!
Thank you.
So there's three big missions of the FBI.
Catching terrorists, catching spies, and catching kidnappers and those who commit federal crimes.
Which of those baskets do you fall into, just by the way?
I wouldn't say I fit into any of them.
So what are they doing at your mother's house?
Why were the feds knocking on your mom's door?
I don't know.
It's nothing related to me as far as I know.
I haven't committed federal crimes.
I don't think I'm a domestic terrorist, but has the FBI labeled me as that because I'm Catholic, because I'm pro-life, because I'm leftist?
I don't know.
All right, so let's talk about who you are for a second.
At university, you were on the Dean's Diversity Board.
You have appeared and published on Fox News.
Vice!
Not a lot of guests we have on this show have written for Vice.
The Daily Signal, we love The Daily Signal, especially Margaret Oolahan.
But also, you're a content creator for something called the Progressive Anti-Abortion Uprising.
What is that, Elise?
We're a coalition of mostly left-leaning pro-lifers.
We believe abortion is murder and we're going to act like it, but we also stand for a lot of things that The conservative side usually doesn't stand for, like, Black Lives Matter.
We're very pro-LGBT.
So we're a home for all the people who also believe that abortion is murder, but they don't feel like they have a space in the current pro-life.
All right, you got to help me here.
I spent years in college studying philosophy and theology.
I'm a cradle Catholic.
I'm pro-life, but I'm a conservative.
I used to work in the Trump White House.
I have this national show right now.
How is a progressive Pro BLM leftists pro life.
Can you help me with that?
Because the left is, you know, they celebrate Margaret Sanger.
They give, you know, eugenicist Margaret Sanger awards to Hillary Clinton.
They celebrate Planned Parenthood.
So help me out here.
Yeah, I'm not saying I align with the Democratic Party, that's a different story, but as far as aligning with the left, I think that we value all life and we value giving a voice to the little guy, but that's exactly what the left isn't doing right now by completely devaluing prenatal people and treating them literally like garbage and throwing them into the sewer system and in the In the trash or burning them for electricity in Baltimore.
That's a fun story too.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
All right.
I'm going to get your phone number.
We're going to talk about that offline because I need to learn about burning babies for power in Baltimore.
And I love this phrase, prenatal people.
That is absolutely fascinating.
All right.
Just as a human being, I want to know, and I want to have you back for a longer discussion because What the Feds are doing to innocent Americans is an outrage.
They are a political police force.
That's why this is the second most popular thing on our website right now.
It is the FBI t-shirt, but this time it stands for Federal Bureau of Intimidation.
I think I'm going to have to send you one, so stay on the line.
But just one last question for you, Elyse.
We're talking to Elyse Ketch.
You can follow her right now at Antipersonhood. That's at Antipersonhood and P-A-U-N-O-W.
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What's it like to be on the left, whether you're a Democrat or not is irrelevant.
What's it like for you to be on the left and be pro-life?
How are you treated?
I mean, I'm extremely isolated.
When I first came out very openly as pro-life among my leftist friends, I lost a lot of them.
A lot of people just blocked me, stopped speaking to me.
A couple people confronted me and later learned my views and said, okay, you're not as bad as I thought you would be.
I definitely challenge stereotypes.
So, in some ways, it's a very exciting life to live and in other ways, it's extremely alienating.
Yeah.
Honestly, last question.
Do you have any idea why the Feds are coming after you?
What are they trying to intimidate you?
Why are you on their radar screen?
I'm just curious.
So one of my colleagues, Lauren Handy, is currently being prosecuted by the federal government for allegedly breaking the FACE Act, the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act.
Um, and so I believe that they've tagged her as a domestic terrorist and so now I'm associated with that.
Even though all I do is, like, I do sidewalk counseling for women who are in crisis and trying to get into abortion clinics.
I try to help them choose other options.
I do do protests that are pretty loud and I agitate sometimes.
Um, I just got arrested, uh, like, a month ago, like, uh, two months ago.
For doing a protest where we blocked the street, but nothing that's a federal crime.
You didn't burn any federal courthouses down or loot any Louis Vuittons?
Absolutely didn't.
Nope.
Maybe that's what you should have done because then they would have treated you like a hero.
What I want to say is God bless you and your friend.
We should get her on the show as well.
In the meantime, follow this individual at AntiquePersonhood.
Will you come back on the show for a longer chat?
Oh, absolutely.
All right, stay on the line.
I want to talk to you in the break.
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Welcome back, dear friends.
Eric!
Were you a little nervous about that interview with that progressive?
The truth, truth, truth.
That was only, I think, like the third or second time maybe we've had a definitely left-wing person on the show.
So yeah, I was a little nervous.
How did it go?
I think that went really, really well.
I think, Geoff, I think we should have it back for a one-on-one.
What do you think?
I think it was interesting.
We should do that.
I think if we can reach out to people like that on big issues who are on the left, that could be very, very fruitful.
Alex, what do you think?
Yeah, good point.
Yeah.
Thank you kindly.
Let's do it!
I think she's in the vicinity of our studio, so let's have her in studio.
All right, gotta touch the story before we go to raise a fist.
There's Shalene Rodriguez, NYC professor, who's not exactly like Elise Ketch.
In her college, she went up to a table of young, innocent students who were pro-life, had a little table of pro-life leaflets, and this is what she did.
You're not educating s**t. This is s**t propaganda.
What are you gonna do, like anti-trans men?
You don't think it's a mess?
This is s**t. This is violent.
You're tripping my students.
I'm sorry about that.
No, you're not.
Because you can't even have a s**tty baby.
So you don't even know what that is.
You don't even know what this is.
Get this s**t out of here.
Get this s**t.
She assaulted that display.
She threw the laptop across the table that belonged to the students.
And then afterwards, when a journalist... Jeff, who was the journalist?
I think it was New York Post, right?
Who knocked on her door?
Yeah, it was New York Post.
I shouldn't laugh, really.
New York Post journalist follows up on the story.
This happened back in May.
Knocks on her door.
And then what does the teacher do, Eric?
Did you see what the teacher did?
She takes out a full-size machete and holds it up to his throat.
Actually pressed it against his throat, the journalist's throat.
Because the left, they're not violent.
They're just normal.
They're not extremists.
Because they come out of their homes and put machetes against the throat.
Could you imagine if a pro-lifer did that?
With a little knife.
I don't know, with a potato peeler.
Not a machete is the good news.
She was on paid leave, but as of the photographs of what she did to that New York Post reporter, Professor Shaleen Rodriguez is professor no more.
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Of course this year Are you excited?
I guess in 60 minutes it's gonna happen!
Do you believe it?
How many times has the governor of Florida cried wolf?
How many times in the recent two months have we been told, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's coming, next Monday, it's coming?
Well, yesterday, Elon said, it's official, it's happening on my platform.
What does it all mean?
Who cares?
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I'm apoplectic.
I can't believe it.
It's finally going to happen.
But do you?
But do you believe it?
Do you believe it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you believe it?
I think we both have to do the Ron Paul it's happening thing.
What is it?
Happy hands?
Clappy hands?
Right.
Jazz hands.
Thank you.
Jazz hands.
Oh my gosh.
All right.
Let's get serious.
We're going to talk about all the ramifications.
What it means for 2024.
Why on earth he took so long to do it?
But first things first, we've been talking about this all day with some of the best minds, my colleagues from the White House, my team here at America First.
I've got to get your take.
You're a knowledgeable guy, you know technology, you're into computer games, content provision on new platforms and so forth.
This idea of Twitter, look, I'm a little bit of a geek, not much of a geek, I'm a social media addict, hours every day on those devilish diabolic platforms.
But at the end of the day, and tell me if I'm crazy here, raise a fist, Twitter It's an elitist tool for people who are in the media or do politics.
And also, the dumbest thing of all, it's an audio platform at the moment, which means you can't repost video clips of the announcement.
So give me your take about... I like Elon, he's making all the right enemies, but is this the smartest strategic communications decision of a presidential campaign?
Right.
Personally, I prefer Truth Social.
Far superior.
But anyway.
That's pretty good.
That's not as good as Sean Farish, but that's a pretty good impersonation.
It had to be my favorite moment of the town hall, personally.
I love how he managed to get the plug for the platform.
Brilliant.
And so effortlessly.
So effortlessly.
Exactly.
I don't, I look, I think, You can clearly see that Elon Musk is attempting to create a video and apparently audio with the Spaces function, which I have yet to use.
But the Spaces function is probably a lot more popular at the moment than their attempts To hone in on YouTube's market, which is that that's really where Elon is focused.
He was making some noise not so long ago about acquiring YouTube, but actually I think he realized, hey, wait a minute.
First off, that would be almost as overpriced as what I paid for.
Sorry, overpaid for Twitter.
Uh, and number two, we already have the video infrastructure, so I think we'll just, we'll go ahead and stick with our platform, and we'll try and sort of hone in on their market, uh, naturally.
I think that's really what Stunts like to thought.
If you listen, I've been on a couple of Twitter spaces with him, with Elon, He is determined to turn Twitter, which he's going to rename into X or Z or whatever, he wants it to be the universal app.
He wants it to be Amazon, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Netflix.
So from a purely business perspective, this announcement in 44 minutes is far more important for Elon than it is for DeSantis because it's driving people to the platform.
Indeed.
Yeah, that's really what this stunt is about at the end of the day.
I mean, I think you can kind of see through this.
It's very much for DeSantis.
It's been a really weird bit of Political calculus.
Because it's like, I think step one in attempting to turn around a primary campaign that I think we can all admit was somewhat flagging.
He started out as a presumptive frontrunner, became kind of a distant runner-up, and he has just faded for about five to six months consistently.
But step one in turning that around is admitting that you have a campaign that generally is The first brick on the road, I think.
It's good he's apparently going to be taking care of that, but it's been such a weird bit of political calculus.
I'm not sure even what he's been thinking.
I know somebody in his campaign was recently fired, correct?
Like there was a prominent advisor.
that he recently parted ways with so maybe that accounts for it but it's just so bizarre that he's kind of been sitting here on the sidelines when everybody knows you don't just get a 200 million dollar war chest from Mitch McConnell and company and then sit on it Just so you can sit around.
You don't go on national book tours and as the governor of Florida go to Japan and then when you're asked at the press conference are you going to declare and he goes ha ha ha ha Wouldn't you like to know?
I mean, the word you used is bizarre, and it is bizarre.
Why have we been waiting?
I mean, they even changed the Constitution of Florida over a month ago so an incumbent governor can now run for another office.
Do you have any supposition as to why he's not prepared?
Why he's locked himself into this half-pregnant situation for so long?
If I wanted to be uncharitable and somewhat conspiratorial, I'd say maybe he was wondering if the sort of the New York prosecution, the political prosecution, was going to provide some manner of political kill shot.
But, you know, that's assuming he could even have known that that was going to come down then or that his campaign was tipped off there.
I prefer instead to be a little bit more generous and say he's just been kind of waiting for the moment.
And DeSantis does have a superpower.
I've mentioned it in the past on this show.
He has a remarkable ability to read the room.
I think, though, sometimes when it's not immediately apparent that, OK, the room is ready for this, we're going to dive in head first, sometimes you just have to get off the pot and you can go from being shrewd to just appearing inactive and indecisive.
That can be a problem.
Bill Clinton kind of had this problem sometimes.
Sometimes he would read the polls, read the room, and immediately react.
And other times, he would sit around reading way too many polls, he would wait way too long to act, and he would appear a lame-duck president.
Obama, same problem.
What was the phrase?
Analysis paralysis?
Yes, absolutely.
I think Ron DeSantis has a weapons-grade version of that.
We all knew it from day one.
DeSantis is gonna run, and I guess that means Chris Christie is going to walk.
I'm sorry, can you waddle for president?
I'm not sure.
We'll talk about the rest of the lineup momentarily, but the big question now is, and my buddy Dan Bongino was ruminating on this today on his program where he was analyzing the upcoming announcement, Literally, the life and death question for DeSantis is whether he goes after President Trump or hands off.
And the fact is, anybody who, as Dan put it, anyone who's gone after Trump in the last, you know, 20 years has lost.
So I don't think he can control himself.
I don't think DeSantis can control himself.
And whether it's during the campaign or the debate stage, he's going to try and go for the king and he's not going to kill him.
Yeah, I think that's kind of predestined at this point.
I honestly think the best thing you could hope for.
I do not begrudge him running for president.
Totally fine with that.
In fact, I think it might even help him in the long run, even if he loses.
But that's only because of what we talked about in our last appearance, which I stand by.
Trump If he has a superpower, it's being able to lob the most vile, acrimonious verbiage at his opponent.
And then, when it's all done, and all the spray tan is settled, he picks up his opponent off the mat and he dusts him off.
And he plays Kingmaker with them.
Yeah.
Ted Cruz, prior to being treated like Princess Cruz in 2016, was a very different political animal.
Afterward, he grew the beard.
He went Super Saiyan.
He grew 10 sizes.
And a lot of that was because of the kind of soft endorsement he got from Trump after that.
And it's amazing.
You can say, oh, if they hit each other too hard, it'll hurt them both.
But I think people forget Just how vile the attacks got in 2016 in that primary.
Ted Cruz's people were printing naked flyers of Melania in Utah to get him to lose that president.
I mean, it got really, really vicious.
And yet, when it was all said and done, what did Trump do?
Up!
Let bygones be bygones.
And he actually helped elevate Cruz.
As somebody who's worked for the man in the Oval Office in the White House, I couldn't do that.
I could never do what he did.
Showing that grace after the pitched battle in the arena.
He's a bigger man than I am.
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I had a guest host on the show yesterday.
Good guy.
He's clearly in the DeSantis camp.
And that's OK.
You know, it's America.
I want to have a primary.
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But guess what?
I'm supporting and I'm voting for President Trump.
I'll tell you why.
There's one very special reason.
And there's also a very special reason why Ron DeSantis Yeah, he's suffering from what I call a honor deficit.
What do I mean by that?
Here's a clip from the press conference he held the Monday after the leak, the felonious leak, of the indictments of President Trump by Alvin Bragg out of Manhattan.
And the first thing he said is he made a jibe about Stormy Daniels.
Play cut.
You're talking about this situation with, and look, I don't know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some type of alleged affair.
I just, I can't speak to that.
I can't speak to that, but I'm going to repeat that phrase again.
Hush money to a porn star!
No, it's an NDA, a non-disclosure agreement.
I signed a non-disclosure agreement with President Trump when I became his advisor in the campaign.
That's dirty.
That's ungentlemanly.
But it gets worse.
Remember, he's the governor of Florida.
In the same press conference, he said the following.
We are not involved in this, won't be involved in this.
I have no interest in getting involved in some type of manufactured circus by some Soros DA.
Okay?
He's trying to do a political spectacle.
He's trying to virtue signal for his base.
I've got real issues I got to deal with here in the state of Florida.
We're obviously shutting down CBDC, which is important.
We've got so many things pending in front of the legislature.
I've got to spend my time on issues that actually matter to people.
I can't spend my time worrying about things of that nature.
So we're not going to be involved in it in any way.
I'm not interested.
I'm not getting involved.
Well, that means you're not honorable.
Because you happen to be the governor of the state in which the individual resides.
Yeah, Mar-a-Lago is in Florida!
Governor DeSantis, get a map out!
And B, you're a former government prosecutor.
Actually, you're a former JAG who wore a uniform as a government prosecutor and you don't have an opinion?
Raise a fist.
Tell me if I'm being too harsh.
These are not honourable stances to take after the announcement of the garbage 47 non-felony felonies levied against President Trump.
I think that was the beginning, in a lot of ways, of this precipitous downfall over, you know, a five, six month period.
Because he was sitting, he was in the catbird seat for a nice little while, and assumed to be a really strong rival to Trump in the primaries, and it has just been a constant fade.
Ever since, I just saw a matchup where, you know, his big strength and obviously the angle that he's going to hit, I think one of the reasons for that miscalculated response is because he had the prefab talking point of kind of a return to normalcy, right?
Right.
I'm going to be more competitive in the general election than Trump because I'll be returned to normalcy guy.
He's already kind of got that built in.
You can see where he's sort of building to that.
But it's like you see these polls now where I saw a head-to-head where who could actually win the election and DeSantis actually lost a point.
That's the poll that just came out yesterday, right?
In the normal head-to-head, he's actually got one point more than in the guy who can actually beat Biden poll.
Amazing from the same polling firm, no less.
That right there is a self-inflicted wound.
That's exactly what that is.
A narrative and it It suggests that you are positioning yourself as something that you are not behaving as.
And I think when you say you're going to be, I'm going to be here fighting for Florida citizens while conveniently ignoring that Trump is a resident of Florida.
You obviously are going to have that problem.
Yeah, that is an issue.
You mentioned previously this superpower President Trump has of, you know, being a real brawler, and then when he's won, being gracious to the people he brawled with.
I find it hard to imagine, but tell me if I'm wrong, could you imagine if we have a primary, President Trump wins like he did in 2016, and he wins the general.
Could you imagine the governor of Florida in a Trump administration?
It's odd.
It kind of depends on how entrenched he was.
Look, he was part of the Paul Ryan coalition in Congress prior to this.
That's his prehistory in politics, or at least prehistory prior to being governor.
If he allows that to be the look in the primaries, number one, he loses even worse than he is in some of the polls right now.
And number two, it makes it kind of inextricable for him.
He winds up having to be the Never Trump guy.
And that's a problem.
That's a bad look.
That's where Evan McMullin went.
That way lies Joe Walsh.
We don't want to go down that road.
We like DeSantis.
Let's not go down that particular road, shall we?
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We have a list.
I think Eric has given me all the entrants.
So President Trump, as of what?
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Talk to us about this panoply of possible candidates.
Yeah, isn't that kind of like Nigel Farage announcing a run in America or something?
Like what in the world is going on there?
I don't know about you, but I'm just glad Chris Christie is running for any reason at all.
I don't know.
I don't know about that one.
Can we just stop here?
Can we just stop and get real?
I just want to be vicious and close out.
Chris Christie is one of, and I don't mean the fact that he looks literally like Jabba the Hutt, he is one of the most morally reprehensible individual, the turpitude level max individuals in politics today.
I find him vomitous.
Why would he be running?
Any idea?
Well, he wants to strike while the iron is hot, obviously.
I mean, that career is headed nowhere but to the limit.
I honestly think, as baffling as this is, I honestly think if you remember when Trump clearly was not supposed to win the nomination in 2016, and you had that moment, where it looked like Chris Christie was behind him reliving NOM flashbacks, right?
That whole look was 100% because Chris Christie was trying to future-proof himself for the inevitable takedown by the Establishmentarian and, you know, the entire Trump phenomenon.
I honestly think that's what brought us here.
It brought us Full circle, right?
Long, long trip.
Of course, you have to take two trains and a bus to get on his good side.
But Chris, at the end of the day, I think... Maybe I'm just old-fashioned.
I worked for President Trump, and unless I saw him do something against America, Or he did something dishonorable to me.
I would never, never go against him.
And any boss.
Any boss I worked for.
If they were patriots and they didn't do me or my family wrong.
Chris Christie ran the stinking transition team for President Trump.
These people have no moral... Am I just old-fashioned or do Americans see this man for who he is?
He opposed Trump early on, then kind of managed to sort of ingratiate himself enough to be part of that transition.
You could always see him maneuvering though.
I mean, even me from afar as a layman could see that this man was maneuvering in the way that he was trying to keep his toes in two separate poles.
He was trying to keep buddy-buddy with the establishmentarians because that's ultimately his clan, as it were.
And he was trying, in the meantime, okay, Trump is the power, who knows, maybe he builds something and then I'll have an in there.
It's the old, it's the old, it's always sunny in Philadelphia meme.
I'm playing both sides, so that way I never lose, right?
That's literally, I think, what his sort of mental calculus was.
It's just amazing how a guy that calculating can calculate so incorrectly, so habitually.
Are you excited by anybody?
There's only one person I'm really interested in and that's Vivek.
I think he's a real political neophyte, but I could see him as the kind of new Jared Kushner, as their kind of head of innovations and trade.
Anybody excite you?
I agree with you on Vivek.
Every time I've seen him, he seems sort of more articulate.
He seems to have his thing together.
He makes some really, really interesting points, and the way that he articulates them is—it's really impressive, because if you were to word some of these things the wrong way, it would sound like you were wearing a white hood with a burning cross behind you.
And he manages to word them in such a way that they sound completely practical and normal.
And as a child of immigrants, I think he's not an immigrant, I think he's a child of immigrants, he clearly loves this country.
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Razör, I think polling is like phrenology.
I think it's like alchemy.
It's fake.
It's not a science, especially if it's based on phone calls, because people don't answer their phones today.
I think it's lies, mostly.
It's meant to shape the battle scene, the battleground, not actually give you an impression of it.
There's one guy I like, who I trust more than the others, and that's Rich Barris.
Yeah, me too.
Yeah, the People's Pundit.
He said this on my show today.
It's one of those moments of, boo!
Oh yeah, that's right.
That's, you know, St.
Paul on the road to Damascus.
He said, the only question that really matters is Trump versus Biden.
It's like going back to Reagan versus Carter.
Remember what Reagan said.
Ask yourself one question.
Are you better off than you were four years ago?
That's the election in 1979 and next year it's going to be the same question.
How is Biden done?
And how were you doing under Trump?
Is that an oversimplification?
We've got these candidates jumping in.
We're going to have other candidates.
Give us your take.
Well, he makes the, Richard Barris I've seen make this point, and I think he's correct, that only one, we can talk about all the field of candidates, all the primary, and how everybody matches up against Biden, but the truth is none of them have the argument that Trump has, the secret weapon that Trump has, and that is the I told you so argument.
Those words have decimated entire presidential fields in the past.
And only Trump has that weapon in his back pocket.
And you look no further than RFK Jr.
currently pulling down, what, 30% support among Democrats?
With his massive, massive political CV.
His decades of political work.
Exactly.
And of course, if the roles were reversed, you know that the Democrats never would hold a primary.
Right.
If Obama had not gotten a second term, they wouldn't even go through this dog and pony show.
Trump is going to have to fight.
And by the way, I think he'll be better for it.
He rises to the occasion in that instance.
But you can clearly see the double standard.
I mean, you'll never get Biden into a debate.
The only way to get Biden into a primary is if you put the word school at the end.
That is how Biden operates.
That's how Democrats operate.
And they only ever operate that way.
And two quick questions I want to squeeze in.
We've only got you for a few more minutes and then the last segment of the show.
On that issue, the idea that the DNC are going to run with this, as Dan my buddy Bongino calls him, rotten bag of oatmeal.
It blows my mind, but basically he's the incumbent so they can't get rid of him.
Unless Jill tells him to resign, correct?
Yeah, and every single time he declares his intent to run again, you notice suddenly the Hunter Biden laptop is legit.
Suddenly.
They'll confirm something that's damaging to him, right?
Because it's like his party's way and the media's way and the establishment's way of saying, it's been swell, Joe.
No need to run again.
So are they going to run with him?
I've got to ask you, are they going to run with this rotten bag of oatmeal?
They may have no choice.
It may literally be that bad.
Their bench may be that shallow.
Which is kind of a staggering statement, to be honest.
When you see this guy at that Navy class cussing him out, you know, months ago, you know what I mean?
Like, what, do you kiss a Girl Scout with that mouth, Joe?
My goodness.
This is supposed to be the President of the United States.
This is the front- Hush, boy!
Hush, boy!
Right?
All right, let's get to the big question for our side, for the good guys.
I'm kind of fed up with a putative conservative saying he better stop talking about 2020 because nobody wants to talk about 2020.
Here's my issue.
If we don't have secure elections and free elections and fair elections, Then what's the point?
So what's the, what's Razorfist?
What is the razor wire he's got to walk in terms of referencing the last election and making sure that this one isn't stolen?
I think you have to—this is a case where it would benefit to hyperfocus in on exactly what occurred in 2020 looked like.
I warned, for the record, ahead of the 2020 election about—I actually did a video called Mail-in Ballots are BS.
And this was months and months and months before the election, and I warned Based on the 2018 primaries and the shenanigans that happened in the senatorial race between Kyrsten Sinema and Martha McSally here in Arizona, what 2020 was very likely going to look like.
And unfortunately, it appeared as advertised.
So I think you have to define, you have to defang the The narrative that they throw out there of you being a conspiracy theorist of, oh, it has to be this vast calculated conspiracy theory.
No, no, it really doesn't.
You really just have to make the laws lax enough in the right place.
Richard Barris, incidentally, who you referenced earlier, made a really, really good point.
Actually, I think it might have been Robert Barnes who does a show with him.
And he said, you know, in some neighborhoods you can leave your door unlocked and leave a nice flat screen TV in the living room and leave your door hanging wide open even and go out to get some cigarettes and when you come back your TV will still be here.
Right.
But in other neighborhoods Not so much, right?
And really, all they really did ahead of 2020 was open the door and unlock it and leave all the windows gaping open and hang a great big neon sign saying, steal the TV.
It didn't require a vast conspiracy.
They just had to slacken the security and the laws a little bit.
And knowing what the system is and the incentives of those involved, They knew what the next act was going to be.
If you focus on that, I think you defang the conspiratorial narrative.
Right.
So, I'm going to ask you to unpack that and reword that in a way that millions of Americans will understand.
I think you're right there, but we need to do some Stratcom on it.
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Alright, let's go back to the political analysis.
45, can he become 47?
God willing.
can he become 47 God willing? With regards to 2020, what is the messaging about 2020?
You don't want to look like sour grapes or broken record or, you know, scratch record, but it's an issue.
So if you were whispering in the ear of his comm team, the president, what would you say to him about the next, you know, year worth of messaging?
Pretty simple.
You'd want at least as much security on your vote as you do on your library card.
You know, something like that.
It's as simple as that.
I mean, no other country does it this way.
Mexico.
Mexico has more security.
They have voter ID in Mexico, for crying out loud.
You know, Obama spent how many years talking about the European model, and we don't look to their election security procedures?
Other people in other countries.
Left, right and center scratch their heads at how we conduct our elections.
It's ridiculous.
It's like just we fling wide the doors and absolutely anybody can come in and vote.
And of course, the founding fathers The Founding Fathers reading their writings, especially Federalists and the Anti-Federalist papers, it is clear that for some of them, they had something approaching contempt for the concept of voting.
And if they could have safeguarded liberty without allowing anyone to vote, they would have done it.
So it was kind of important for them that when people actually voted, they took it really, really seriously and had a stake in the outcome.
Yeah.
Signing people the same day up to vote and then having zero security procedures for said vote?
Slightly contrary to the Founders and Feds.
Just slightly contrary to their intent.
I did a two-hour interview yesterday on the Patrick Bet-David podcast and I made exactly this point.
I said there's more than a billion people in India.
They have voter ID.
Mexico is in the midst of a domestic insurgency with the cartels.
They have voter ID.
I think America that put men on the moon six times can do it.
And the host said, uh, the Trump campaign better make two clips out of what you just said and play it at the rallies.
It's not much more complicated than that.
If India can do it.
If Mexico can do it, the fact that we don't, yeah, that's got nothing to do with technology.
It's got to do with stealing elections.
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