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May 23, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka

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Bob Frantz LIVE: DeSantis joins the fray

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	Thank you for joining us on America First with today's very special guest host, Cleveland's own Bob France.
	And the battle has been well and thusly joined.
	Welcome, patriots, to America First.
	I am Bob France, live in Cleveland, Ohio, the pain-free ReliefFactor.com studios of AM 1420.
	The answer, that's my home base.
	And wow, this was not how I was planning to start the show.
	Less than an hour ago, we got confirmation that the battle has indeed been joined.
	The announcement of the announcement has been made.
	Tomorrow, Governor Ron DeSantis, highly popular, extraordinarily successful in his last election in Florida, which wasn't that long ago, is ready to make his entry into the presidential primary field.
	He has announced he's going to do this tomorrow, and he's going to do it on social media.
	He's going to do it, not with a big old ballroom full of people, I don't know, but I do know that it's going to be broadcast live on Twitter Spaces.
	He's going to be with Elon Musk.
	Ron DeSantis, who of course has long been rumored to be in this, I think a lot of his travel schedule is proven as he goes to various places around the country, even some overseas trips to talk to some foreign dignitaries, has indicated that he's Prepping for an announcement, and now we know when it's going to happen.
	It's going to be happening tomorrow, I think they said around 6 p.m.
	on Twitter Spaces.
	Ron DeSantis, the Governor of Florida, will enter the fray.
	Now, if you ask President Trump and President Trump's team, and if you ask President Trump's PACs and SuperPACs, who have been running ads since, I want to say, February, attack ads against Ron DeSantis, he's already been in the race.
	He wasn't, but he was, because everybody knew that it was coming, and so now it's going to be, as I say, well and thusly joined.
	Ron DeSantis will get a chance to actually talk about the presidency and talk about the primary field, talk about the frontrunner, the former president, number 45, Donald J. Trump.
	He has neglected to do so almost.
	At every turn he has refused to engage in the back and forth.
	He has dropped a line or two here and there where he could, but certainly hasn't done anything on the attack mode that he has received.
	And now it's on.
	It's game on.
	And this comes a day after it was also game on with Tim Scott.
	I like Tim Scott a lot.
	I like Ron DeSantis a lot.
	I like Donald Trump a lot.
	I like the depth of the GOP field a lot.
	I like the fact that we've got a host of people who would run this country in an extraordinarily better way, more successful, more America first, honestly, than anything the Democrats could throw up there.
	Whether they drag the rotting carcass of Joe Biden up there for re-election or not, I don't care what they have behind him.
	The giggling, moronic fool that is the Vice President of the United States?
	Please.
	Gavin Newsom, leader of one of the most pathetically failed states in the Union, where they are hemorrhaging residents because they're leaving California and they're going to red states like Texas and like Florida.
	Give me a break.
	I mean, I look over there.
	What else do they have?
	Is Pete Buttigieg going to come to the rescue?
	It doesn't matter.
	They're not even going to allow a primary fight to take place.
	They're not going to allow a debate.
	The DNC will not put Joe Biden on a debate stage where his record can be challenged.
	Where his record can be exposed not just by, potentially, the moderators of such a debate, but by Robert Kennedy.
	Or any of the others that might throw their hat into this ring to see if they can take Skeletor out of play.
	He's going to have the nomination.
	And that's all they have to offer.
	And I look at what we have with a former president with a track record of success.
	A phenomenal governor with a track record of success.
	A phenomenal senator with all of the boxes checked.
	And unlike the Democrats, they're not racial identity boxes.
	It's professionalism.
	It's experience.
	It's knowledge.
	It's ideas.
	It's platforms.
	And of course I speak of Tim Scott.
	I can't say the same things about some of the others who have put their names into this thing.
	People like Asa Hutchinson, people like Nikki Haley.
	I think Nikki Haley is running solely for the vice presidential spot.
	And I don't think it would be a terrible idea for President Trump, if he is the nominee, to choose a female vice president to get him out of the hot water he's in with a lot of middle class female voters.
	But I think that's what Nikki Haley is there for.
	Who am I missing?
	Is anybody I'm missing yet?
	By the way, this is kind of interesting.
	This also popped up literally this afternoon, a half an hour ago.
	Glenn Youngkin, who had originally said, nope, not going to do it in 2024, but the Virginia governor is now, according to Breitbart, Republican Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin is reconsidering, is the word they're using, a bid for the White House in the 2024 election.
	Okay, they're quoting Axios.
	As Breitbart News reported, no, Youngkin told Wall Street Journal editor-at-large Gerard Baker when asked if he would be dusting off his signature fleece vest he became known for during a successful gubernatorial campaign.
	Instead, Youngkin's plans to focus on the state he was elected to lead.
	I'm going to be working in Virginia this year, he added.
	However, Junkin is now, quote, reconsidering a presidential run, says a top source close to the Virginia governor, to Axios.
	Quote, he's reconsidering, he'd be in his own lane, he's not never Trump, and he's not Trump-lite.
	And I think obviously that's a slam at DeSantis, because a lot of people consider Ron DeSantis Trump-lite with the policies.
	A top Virginia Republican strategist told the outlet there are serious discussions happening on re-engaging in the presidential race.
	So there you go.
	It is going to be a very deep field.
	It is already a very deep field.
	It is going to be, I think, a phenomenal primary if there is allowed to be a primary that includes the frontrunner.
	Because much like the Democrats are not going to allow Joe Biden to stand up there and defend an absolutely horrific record on inflation, on energy, on military, on foreign policy, on immigration and the open southern border.
	They won't do it.
	Joe Biden will not take a debate stage against Bobby Kennedy and have to actually answer those questions.
	But much like that, President Trump has indicated, I'm not getting on a debate stage with these people.
	They don't deserve a spot next to me.
	That's a paraphrase, of course, but he has basically said, why would I get on a debate stage?
	I'm basically running for re-election.
	I've already won.
	I won in 2016, and I really won again in 2020.
	This is nobody's race but mine.
	Why should I get up there?
	So, I hope that's not the case.
	I really, really do.
	I think President Trump has a phenomenal record on which to run, but I think he's got some questions that have to be answered, too.
	I think Ron DeSantis has put together an extraordinary case that he could be the nominee that could beat Joe Biden.
	I think maybe a Glenn Youngkin, a Tim Scott, they're upstarts.
	There's a couple of other names.
	Vivek Ramaswamy.
	Uh, is in this thing.
	Larry Elder, our former colleague on Salem Radio, is in it.
	I love Larry so much.
	I would love to see Larry have a huge role.
	But you know, that's an uphill climb.
	That's a massive uphill climb to get to the level of where some of these other individuals are.
	Not just in the polls, but in the entire fundraising aspect and so forth.
	I really think that this big field deserves to be heard on debate stages, not just on attack campaign ads.
	And I would very much like to see how President Trump stacked up next to Ron DeSantis, next to Tim Scott, next to Glenn Youngkin if he's going to do this thing, Nikki Haley and on down the line.
	This is going to be a great conversation today.
	I welcome you to join us.
	It's 833-33-GORKA.
	You know the number now.
	833-33-46-752.
	I want to hear from you at the very start about this.
	We're going to talk about some other things today besides presidential politics, I promise.
	We're going to get into the debt ceiling.
	In fact, Congressman Bob Good is going to join us in about 20 minutes or so, 25 minutes or so.
	In hour number three, we're going to talk to Horace Cooper, chairman of the Project 21 National Advisory Board.
	about the NAACP's bizarre attack on Florida as being a terrorist state that is unsafe for people of color.
	That, of course, is just an attack on Ron DeSantis, too.
	So I welcome you.
	Join us.
	What are your thoughts on DeSantis coming in?
	What are your thoughts on Tim Scott coming in yesterday?
	Obviously, President Trump has greeted each of those two contenders in different manners.
	I want to talk to you about it.
	I want to listen to you about it.
	833-33-GORKA.
	I'm Bob France, in for Dr. G on America First.
	Stay here.
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	Now let's get back to the show with Bob Frantz.
	You know, I was going to start the show.
	Thank you, Dr. G. Bob Frantz, live in Cleveland, Ohio, TheReliefFactor.com Studios, AM 1420, The Answer.
	By the way, I've got to get better at this.
	I'm so bad at social media.
	It's just not my thing.
	I'm on Twitter at FrantzRants, F-R-A-N-T-Z Rants, R-A-N-T-Z, all the same way.
	Frantz Rants on Twitter.
	There, I've said it.
	I was going to start the show today.
	By talking about this extraordinary thing that the Los Angeles Dodgers have done.
	They are allowing a gay drag group, or troop if you will, that imitates Muslim clerics.
	Hijabs, but sexualized hijabs.
	And they do this very bizarre performance, and the Dodgers invited them to join them on the field for their Pride Day thing that's coming up in the month of Groom.
	You do realize that the months have been changed, right?
	There is January, February, March, April, May, Groom, July, August, September, October.
	You did know there was a change.
	I've officially declared the month of June to be the month of Groom.
	Somebody decided to give an entire month to celebrate people's sexual proclivities, orientations, desires, identifications, and so forth.
	An entire month.
	Why?
	I have no idea.
	But as part of that LGBTQ nod to this radical hate movement, and that's exactly what the LGBTQ-men has become, they have become a hate group, they have become bullies, and if you do not acquiesce to their demands and do what they say, call them what they want to be called, identify them as what they want to be identified, even if it is complete nonsense, You get attacked.
	You get phobed.
	You get ismed.
	You get cancelled.
	So this is part of what's happening.
	And it's all, of course, in an attempt to groom the younger generation to become a part of this strange, bizarre, deviant political lifestyle.
	And it is political as much as it is anything else.
	It's political and it's sexual anyway.
	The Dodgers had originally invited this group of drag Muslim clerics to the event.
	And then, after this was complained about by Muslims, the Dodgers said, OK, they're not invited.
	They're not going to come.
	We don't want to offend anybody's religion here.
	But then, after the LGBT group complained some more, they relented and they switched back to their original position.
	Now, they're allowing this radical group, this anti-Muslim group that dresses in drag and promotes all kinds of very deviant things, to come back out there on Pride Night.
	And they don't care what the Muslim community says about that.
	What do you think of that?
	And if you think that's bizarre and that's insane, because you're not allowed to do that to Muslims, you're not allowed to show bigotry toward religions like Islam.
	that this is a crazy story, you'd be right, because it's not.
	They would never allow a group of drag queens posing as Muslim clerics to appear at a Pride Night event on a Major League Baseball field, but they have no problem whatsoever doing it to Catholics.
	They have no problem doing it to Catholics.
	Christians and Catholics open freaking season on you.
	On me.
	I'm one of them.
	So what they can do is they can dress up a bunch of bearded freak guys in sexualized nun type of costumes with full face makeup and all kinds of other crap wearing holy rosaries around their necks while they drag do drag show dances.
	The group is called the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.
	They were originally invited to be a part of this ridiculous, non-sensible pride night that the Dodgers are doing and that so many other organizations are going to be doing during the Month of Groom.
	And they again, as I kind of said in my lead up, they were told, okay, no, we're not going to have them because that's a little too offensive.
	But then the LGBTQ people came out and screamed a bloody murder at the Dodgers.
	So the Dodgers said, okay, you guys can come and we're really sorry for not, for thinking for a moment that we should not have you out there.
	We're really sorry for that.
	Now, now, The fact that they are more concerned with the feelings of radical extremist drag show dancers and LGBTQ trans-identifying people over the largest religious
	affiliation in America, the Christian religion, and the Catholic Church.
	They care more about the feelings of the drag queens dressing as nuns than they do Catholics all over America.
	They're coming back out.
	And I want to shine a spotlight for a moment on Florida Senator Marco Rubio, because Marco Rubio did a phenomenal thing here.
	Once he found out that they were going to be allowing the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, as they're called, to perform and to be on the field and mock Christianity and mock Catholicism and mock Catholic nuns, women who devote their entire lives to serving and helping their fellow man, being mocked in such ways by men in these costumes.
	Marco Rubio wrote a letter to Major League Baseball.
	And I want to quote just a little bit of it from a press release that Marco Rubio, the senator from Florida, sent out.
	In June, the L.A.
	Dodgers... I'm sorry, let's call it the correct month.
	In Groom, the L.A.
	Dodgers plan to give a Community Hero Award to an anti-Catholic group of activist drag queen performers.
	The L.A.
	chapter of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, and you can just marinate in that name for
	a moment.
	Perpetual Indulgence features men dressed like Catholic nuns who mock the faith with
	the motto, Go forth and sin no more.
	That is of course a complete take off and a mockery of words of Christ, Go forth and
	sin no more.
	Senator Marco Rubio sent a letter to baseball commissioner Rob Manford questioning whether the league is inclusive and welcoming.
	Not to drag queens, not to the LGBTQ lifestyle advocates, but to Christians.
	Quote from the letter.
	The sisters are men who dress in lewd imitation of Roman Catholic nuns.
	The group's motto, go and sin some more, is a perversion of Jesus' command to go and sin no more.
	The group's Easter ceremony I have a hard time even reading this.
	They mock Easter.
	They mock the risen Christ.
	Their Easter ceremony features children's programming followed by a drag show where the adult performers dress in blasphemous imitations of Jesus and Mother Mary.
	The group hosts pub crawls that mock the various stations of the cross.
	And even the Eucharist, the sacrament that unites more than one billion Catholics around the world.
	Do you believe the LA Dodgers are being inclusive and welcoming to everybody by giving an award to a group of gay and transgender drag performers that intentionally mocks and degrades Christians, not only Christians but nuns, who devote their lives to serving others?
	End quote.
	Senator Rubio is standing up for all of us with this, but there need to be a lot more of us standing up as well.
	If you are listening to me in California right now, if you have any, if you're a Dodger fan, do you own Dodger season tickets?
	You need to make your voice heard to the L.A.
	Dodgers and to Major League Baseball in general.
	We're not done with this, not by a long shot.
	But we do have a timeout coming.
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	Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
	Thank you, Dr. G, and I want to remind people about children of prisoners and how they start out their life with several strikes against them.
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	Okay, let's dive into this.
	I've got a couple of topics on the table at the moment, but we do have a guest coming up too.
	We're going to talk about debt ceiling in a bit with Congressman Bob Good.
	But I want you to answer these questions and be patient as we work our way through.
	Two questions.
	Number one, now that you do see Ron DeSantis entering tomorrow, Tim Scott entered yesterday, I ran down the list of other challengers for Donald Trump's throne.
	Clearly, according to the polls, he's far and away the frontrunner.
	Do any of the others stand a chance, and do you like the idea of any of the others Aside from President Trump, even if you are a President Trump supporter first and foremost, do any of the others excite you about if that guy or girl or lady wins the nomination?
	I'll be very excited and I'll work very hard.
	I'm going to support the nominee no matter who it is, and I'm going to campaign for them on air every day for the next 12 months or 15 months or whatever it turns out to be as much as I possibly can to make sure that we defeat the Marxists.
	But I want to know how you feel about it now that Ron DeSantis is getting in, and you have Tim Scott, and of course, President Trump.
	I think those are maybe the three biggest names in the race right now.
	And then, there's the question of the Dodgers.
	If you are a baseball fan, do you plan to support... I mean, we can approach this a couple of ways.
	To anybody listening to us in California right now, particularly if you're a Dodgers fan, Are you good with this?
	Are you good with bringing people who mock Christian, Catholic nuns in drag outfits and mock the suffering of Christ, mock the risen Christ?
	Is that welcoming?
	Is that inclusive?
	Valuing the I read many, many messages on Twitter before we came on the air today with people saying, I've been a lifelong Dodgers fan.
	I'm done.
	No more.
	Not another nickel.
	I will never buy another ticket.
	I will not patronize them.
	I will not buy a Dodger blue hat.
	the feelings of the Christian community.
	I read many, many messages on Twitter before we came on the air today with people saying,
	I've been a lifelong Dodgers fan, I'm done.
	No more.
	Not another nickel.
	I will never buy another ticket.
	I will not patronize them.
	I will not buy a Dodger blue hat.
	Nothing.
	If the Bud Light experience taught these companies anything, you wouldn't know it from their
	reactions.
	Bud Light, if you did not know, has just acknowledged that they will be buying back thousands upon thousands of cases of unsold Bud Light because they've expired on the store shelves.
	Nobody's buying it.
	They're down some 25% in sales.
	Beer is sitting there on the shelves and expiring.
	They've got to buy it back.
	It's costing them, Lord knows how many, untold millions of tens or hundreds of millions of dollars.
	You would think that might be a lesson to Adidas.
	You would think that might be a lesson to Target.
	You would think that might be a lesson to the Los Angeles Dodgers, Major League Baseball, or any of these other corporations that go this direction, but no.
	They continue to push the issue.
	And it's my view that we need to push back.
	So I want to know what you're going to do if you're a baseball fan, if you're a Dodger fan.
	You don't even have to be in California.
	You don't even have to be in Los Angeles to answer that question.
	Because you ought to do what Marco Rubio did.
	Marco Rubio didn't write a letter to the Dodgers and say, hey, why are you doing this?
	Are you sure you want to do this?
	Are you sure you want to humiliate and mock Christians and Catholics around the world with this nonsense?
	He sent it to baseball.
	Commissioner Rob Manfred.
	What will you do?
	So I want to hit those two topics.
	We've got a different topic coming up here with Congressman Bob Good, who's going to join us to talk about the debt ceiling on our southern border and why it is, Brandon.
	By the way, if you're watching on the Salem News Channel or subgorka.com or the Rumble Channel, yes, I am flexing the Let's Go Brandon t-shirt.
	So that's how I feel about the entire thing.
	I welcome your thoughts.
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	Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
	Thank you, Dr. G. It is 17 minutes before the top of the hour.
	We're back to the culture wars that we did not start, but we absolutely must win in just a bit.
	The baseball nonsense, the trans attack on nuns, and even more.
	But let's talk about another war that's going on right now, and that is the war over America's debt.
	President Biden and Speaker Kevin McCarthy have met again.
	I think the best that we could get out of Kevin McCarthy was that the tone was better.
	It was a little bit less contentious than it was before, but according to virtually all the reports we're getting from Capitol Hill right now, they are nowhere near coming to an agreement.
	So joining us now to discuss is Congressman Bob Good from Virginia.
	He is on the House Budget Committee and he's also a member of the Freedom Caucus.
	Oh, he's not there.
	Oh, I apologize.
	I thought he was on the line.
	So we're going to be talking to Congressman Good here in just a moment about this.
	One of the things that you need to know, and one of the things that I'll ask Congressman Good about, by the way, is when you hear Joe Biden and the Democrats talking about the 14th Amendment, that we can do this without Congress, that Biden can do this without Congress, that we can use the 14th Amendment.
	They absolutely cannot.
	And when you break down the language of the 14th Amendment, I'm told we do have Congressman Bob Goode on the line now.
	We'll talk about this with him.
	You'll see that they absolutely cannot do this.
	They have to involve Congress in any deal to raise the debt ceiling and, of course, to cut spending.
	Congressman Bob Goode from Virginia joins us now, after all, on AM 1420, The Answer.
	Congressman, thank you for the time.
	How are you, sir?
	Great to be with you.
	Thanks for having me, Bob.
	Doing well.
	Hope you are.
	I am as well.
	I'm a regular.
	That's D.C.
	for you.
	No, I understand.
	I understand.
	You know, I do a weekly interview with Jim Jordan, of course, who helped found the Freedom Caucus, of which you are a member.
	So, I love that, and I love the great work that you guys do.
	Congressman, I want to talk about a couple of things.
	Debt ceiling fight, and then talk a little bit about our poorest southern border.
	Tell me your understanding of this claim that Joe Biden has made, and so have some on the left, that they can invoke, or that he can invoke, unilaterally, the 14th Amendment in Raising the debt ceiling to avoid default on our debt.
	They cannot do that.
	As you know, the 14th Amendment says the validity of the public debt in the United States authorized by law shall not be questioned.
	It's not authorized by law unless we raise the debt ceiling to allow that money to be spent.
	The President knows that he doesn't have the authority to do it.
	That's why he has said he didn't have the authority to do it.
	That's why other Democrat leaders, including even Secretary Yellen, have said that they know they don't have the authority to do that.
	This is just a desperate attempt to try to deflect from his responsibility to ensure that we don't suffer any consequence from a failure to raise the debt limit.
	As you know, the House has been responsible, the Senate and the White House have been M.I.A.
	But we passed a good bill, and the Senate needs to pass it, and the President needs to sign it.
	Yeah, it is really astounding that people, you know, that the left, I guess, think that they can just go ahead and say the 14th Amendment says this can't be questioned, but here's the Constitution, Article 1, Section 9, Clause 7.
	The clause states, no money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in consequence of appropriations made by law.
	That means lawmakers, that means Congress, that means you.
	This is not something that the President can do from the executive side, so he needs to negotiate here.
	What do you think the message is when they're sitting there in their one-on-one meetings, Kevin McCarthy and Joe Biden?
	Is he literally telling Speaker McCarthy that there's not a nickel of overage that we have that we can't afford to cut spending on?
	Well, the fact is Dems, as you know, don't want to cut any spending.
	They are addicted to spending.
	And both parties are complicit in us getting the $32 trillion national debt.
	Democrats are better at it than we do.
	And they are more reckless and more excessive in their spending.
	But this new Republican majority is actually committed to doing what the voters elected us to do.
	We ran on balancing the budget.
	We ran on restoring fiscal stability to the country.
	The American people gave us the majority in the House, and we are going to stand strong, enforce cuts,
	enforce reforms, because we will surely have a default.
	If we continue on the current path, we will get to a point where we can no longer sell our debt,
	we can no longer borrow, we can no longer make our interest payments,
	and that will cause the catastrophe that many are dishonestly, or frankly, just misguidingly,
	or inaccurately saying that's going to happen if we don't raise the debt limit.
	There's not going to be a default from that.
	There will be a default someday if we don't fix the track that we're on and cut our spending and put us on some reforms to get us to balance.
	Yeah, of that there is no doubt.
	We're talking with Congressman Bob Good from Virginia.
	He is a member of the Freedom Caucus.
	He's also on the House Budget GOP Committee.
	So, Congressman Good, when we talk about default, every time we have one of these showdowns, about raising the debt limit and cutting spending, There's a question of who will be responsible or held responsible or viewed as responsible if we don't get it done and we do go into default.
	The Democrats feel like they always have that advantage because they always control the media.
	The media carries their water, they carry their messaging.
	And if we were to not get a deal done and we were to go into default, he's pretty confident that the Republicans would shoulder the blame for that.
	How do we counter that?
	I think it's different this time because the American people recognize they cannot continue what's been happening.
	They're suffering under the massive inflation.
	They realize this inflation has caused the grocery prices.
	These bad policies have caused the housing prices.
	Interest rates have been risen in a futile attempt.
	to combat the high inflation that's caused by the spending.
	The American people recognize we cannot do that.
	That's why, overwhelmingly, it's 80% who either say they do not want the debt ceiling raised or they only want it in return for or in accordance with cuts in spending and reforms to put us on a path of fiscal responsibility.
	Only 20% of the country agrees with Joe Biden's policy of, hey, we just should raise the debt limit without having any kind of cuts or reforms in place.
	So it's overwhelmingly for the Republicans in the House.
	And I think the other part of it is because we did our job.
	The White House and the Senate were on the sidelines.
	They were MIA.
	And we took 90 days to come together as a House majority and do what we on the Republican side did not want to do, which was to raise the debt ceiling.
	Most Republicans that are currently in the House have never voted to raise the debt ceiling, but we responsibly addressed it with meaningful cuts and reforms.
	All of which are reasonable, all of which make sense to the American people, none of which the Democrats can defend being against, and that's why they have lied about what's in the bill, because they cannot defend being against what really is in the bill.
	Congressman, good, take me to the border for a moment if you could.
	I love the fact that, I'm going to say this directly, I love the fact that they have migrants sleeping in the halls in police stations in Chicago.
	I love that Eric Adams is saying, no more, we can't handle anymore.
	Every left-wing mayor and every left-wing governor that's complaining that this is no longer just a border state problem, that it's their problem too, it inspires them, or at least it ought to, to go to the source of the problem.
	To go to Joe Biden and go to the White House and say, do something about this.
	You know, there's not one thing you can point to where Joe Biden has not made the country worse, has not harmed the country, has not damaged the country because of his policies.
	And nowhere is that more evident or more explicit than with the border, with 7 million illegals having invaded our country with the help of this administration.
	With the support and the facilitation of this... Congressman Goode, I've got a hard break here.
	I apologize for the interruption.
	If you can hang on to finish your thought on the other side of this break, that would be fantastic.
	We're talking with Congressman Bob Good on America First.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	Bye.
	I'm Seb Gawker.
	Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
	Thanks, Dr. G. We are six minutes in front of the top of the hour.
	We continue now with Congressman Bob Good from Virginia.
	Congressman, we had to cut you off there in the middle of your response on the border, but some of the humanitarian crises that we are seeing now that are no longer just on the southern border, but being brought up into cities and communities.
	In fact, Eric Adams says, spread them equally or with equity all throughout the United States.
	Your thought on that, sir.
	Well, this administration, which has done irreparable harm to the country, you know, if they secure the border tomorrow, only time will tell, with 1.5 million criminal gotaways, those who don't want the free healthcare, the free social services, the free travel, the free education, all the accommodations that we're giving to these illegals who are invading our country for economic reasons, most of them, Then you've got the 1.5 million criminal gotaways who don't want all of that, and they're here with criminal backgrounds, terrorist ties, trafficking drugs and humans across the country.
	Irreparable harm has been done.
	But to your point, the question, this administration has hid this from the country best they could.
	They've never cared about the harm being done.
	All they've cared about is the optics.
	They didn't want the American people to know about it.
	That's why they fly in the dark at night.
	That's why they try to hide the flight reports, because they don't want the American people to know.
	But it's gotten to a level where it's getting more increasingly difficult for it not to be hidden.
	And thankfully for these governors who have been shipping these to blue cities and blue states to try to expose it and to try to share the misery, quite frankly, Not just for the illegals who are here, but also for the Americans who are overtaxed and our resources that are overexhausted, and we just cannot continue to do what this president has been doing to this country.
	Yeah, well, you know, as part of hiding it, that's one of the reasons why he won't go down.
	He will not go down there and actually show us what's going on, neither will Kamala Harris, because the cameras follow, and you're right, then the American people see what's really happening.
	Big news happened right before we came on the air today.
	Governor Ron DeSantis made it official that he's going to make it official, an announcement of an announcement, that tomorrow at 6 p.m.
	on Twitter Space is Governor DeSantis is going to enter the fray.
	What does this race look like to you now?
	Well, you know, I'm a big supporter of President Trump, best president of my lifetime, but I've endorsed Governor DeSantis because of what he has done in Florida.
	I believe he has the best chance to win in 24 I believe that what he has done for Florida needs to be taken across the nation.
	Here's a state that was purple with the hanging chads 20 years ago, and the way that he has fought every battle in his state, won by 20 points after winning by half a point four years ago.
	Just what he did to address COVID, the way that he opened up his state courageously, ended the lockdowns and the shutdowns, fought back against the mask mandates, the vaccine mandates.
	The way he's fought against the corporate wokeism there, the way he's fought for concealed carry, the way he signed a six-week heartbeat bill there in Florida, I think he's demonstrated his conservative credentials, his willingness to fight, he doesn't back down, and he's got a leadership that we need.
	Congressman, super quick before we have to end our segment here, he goes into this fight down 37 points in most of the polls.
	Well, there's a reason why all the attack ads are against him, and there's a reason why he's still talked about as the primary contender Along with President Trump for the nomination, because everybody knows what he's done in Florida.
	He's a formidable candidate.
	And now that he's announced, or he does announce here, I think you're going to see those poll numbers begin to tighten quite a bit.
	Especially in the battleground states, by the way.
	That's right.
	And that's what he's hanging his hat on.
	There's no doubt about it.
	The battleground states, not a national popular vote.
	That's very well said.
	Congressman Bob Good, Virginia, joining us.
	I'm Bob France in for Dr. G on America First, Hour Two coming up.
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	So as we begin our number two, I want to kind of refresh the two big topics we had going before I spoke with Congressman Bob Good.
	Ron DeSantis is in now.
	The battle has been joined.
	You just heard Congressman Bob Good.
	He said he is a huge supporter of Donald Trump, that Donald Trump was the best president he has seen in his lifetime.
	But he is endorsing Ron DeSantis.
	I wonder how many other former Trump voters who still love him and who will still support him if he is the nominee are in that camp.
	I do know that there's an interesting story Uh, that I saw earlier this morning, over 100 former Trump administration officials, people who worked for him, have, uh, decided to back and endorse Ron DeSantis for president.
	And perhaps that's why President Trump has been so vicious in his attacks on Ron DeSantis.
	Really since, uh, back in February, you started to see some attack ads being run.
	Saw a lot more than that on Truth Social.
	But if you look back at the way things have gone, President Trump clearly has seen Ron DeSantis as his biggest threat, and now DeSantis is going to make his announcement tomorrow.
	We found that out before the show started, that tomorrow at 6 o'clock.
	And a little inside baseball here.
	Sometimes, and I've always said this in my 25 years in radio, Sometimes the best radio happens off the radio, the conversations off the air.
	And I was just discussing with Jeff and Eric, and I think Alex was in there, and we were just talking about what you think of the announcement format.
	Ron DeSantis, according to the report, is going to make his announcement tomorrow at 6 p.m.
	on Twitter Spaces with Elon Musk.
	It's a non-traditional, it's not what Tim Scott did yesterday, getting in front of a crowd of raucous supporters and making a speech which, by the way...
	was so on point.
	His tone and his remarks yesterday, I love Tim Scott a lot.
	He is another rising star, like Ron DeSantis in this Republican party and in this conservative movement.
	But anyway, Ron DeSantis isn't going to do the same style of announcement.
	He's going to do it on Twitter space, he's going to do it with Elon Musk, and he's going to reach obviously a very vast Twitter crowd.
	I wonder, two things about that.
	Number one, whether or not it's to curry favor and support from Elon Musk, who is a He's a darling of conservatives, because what did he do?
	He did what he said he was going to do when he threatened to buy Twitter.
	He said he was going to buy Twitter, spend forty-what?
	Forty-four million dollars.
	A billion dollars.
	No, what was it?
	How much did he spend on Twitter now?
	I can't remember now.
	But whatever that amount was, he said he would spend that money and return the platform to a platform of free speech.
	And the left went crazy and said, oh, that means you're going to allow hate speech, you're going to allow n-bombs to fly, and you're going to allow anti-Semitism, and that's not what he meant at all.
	But he wasn't going to censor people or have his moderator censor people for daring to question the COVID narrative, or question the LGBTQ narrative, or the argument, or question any of the science of climate change.
	He wasn't going to do that.
	And that speaks to people who are conservative believers in the First Amendment.
	I happen to be the National Communications Director for a very important organization, in my view, called CFFS, Citizens for Free Speech.
	Our founder and Executive Director is Patrick Wood.
	And Elon Musk became a very, very big champion of ours, and we of him.
	And so conservatives who believe in free speech love Elon Musk for that.
	And thus, maybe Ron DeSantis' play here is to capitalize on conservative love for free speech.
	I'm going to do this thing with Elon on his platform, Twitter Spaces, and then capitalize a little bit.
	The second thing that's possibly going on here is that maybe Elon Musk has taken a very thinly veiled shot at Trump.
	Because Trump refuses to go back on Twitter, even though he's been reinstated now by Musk, after his lifetime ban from the previous ownership.
	But he's staying on Truth Social, calls it far superior to Twitter and so on and so forth.
	So maybe it's Ron DeSantis saying, you know, it's game on now.
	You're going to keep on your Truth Social.
	I'm going to go on the largest platform in the world, Twitter, which I think is actually not.
	It's still second to Facebook, but I'm going to do mine over here.
	You do yours over there.
	So I want your thoughts now that DeSantis is in.
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	I want to go to Don calling us from Los Angeles on America First with Dr. G. Hey, it's Bob in for Dr. G. Go right ahead, Don.
	Hi, Bob.
	Great job filling in.
	I really love it so far.
	Great show.
	Thank you.
	You know, being out here in L.A., well, I know you're going through the woke baseball blues in Cleveland.
	You know, the Guardians used to be the Indians, and they caved in to wokeness.
	Now, out here, I mean, this goes much beyond that.
	This is absolute blasphemy.
	Yes, it is.
	This is mocking the Lord, mocking God, mocking Jesus.
	It's just beyond the pale.
	And the worst thing isn't them.
	The worst thing is the Dodgers first pulled their invitation And then, under pressure, reinstated it.
	They're the most groveling, craven cowards as possible to conceive.
	I'm disgusted.
	I'm old enough.
	I'm old enough, Bob.
	I remember when the Dodgers came to town.
	I was in kindergarten.
	You know, we used to see the games out at the old L.A.
	Coliseum.
	They hadn't even built Dodgers Stadium.
	And this hurts.
	This really hurts.
	I mean, Vin Scully and Tommy Lasorda were devout, lifelong Catholics.
	They've got to be rolling in their graves.
	Jesus wept.
	Jesus wept.
	Yeah, no question.
	No question.
	I completely concur, Don.
	I appreciate your call and your passion.
	And you're right, it is blasphemous.
	And you know what the left would say, and what the Dodgers would say is, well, what if we don't believe in Jesus?
	It's not our place to try to decide how we run our things on your beliefs.
	Maybe we're not Christians.
	Okay, fine.
	Well, you know what I'm not?
	I'm not a Muslim.
	Know what else I'm not?
	I'm not a Jew.
	But I would not wantonly take my brand and associate it with being anti-Semitic or anti-Islam.
	I wouldn't do that.
	Now, I am anti-radical extremist Islam for obvious reasons.
	Look what happened on 9-11 and look what happened in many other cases.
	But I still wouldn't support a baseball team as I kind of did a little play acting at the start of the show today.
	And I said, you know, the Dodgers have invited a bunch of drag performers dressed as Muslim clerics and, you know, men dressed in women's hijabs and, you know, and their religious garb to mock them.
	I wouldn't approve of that.
	And I'm not a Muslim.
	I wouldn't approve of doing something anti-Semitic.
	And I'm not a Jew.
	I'm a Christian.
	Why is the only religion in America that is okay to mock Christianity!
	Why is it okay to spit in the faces, proverbially, spit in the faces of millions upon millions upon millions of Christians in the United States of America and, quite frankly, Catholics around the world?
	A Catholic nun is a revered, respected figure in the church.
	They devote their lives to serving and helping other people.
	They devote their lives to God.
	You don't have to believe in God to respect that.
	You don't have to believe in Christianity or Christ rising from the dead to respect that and to say that baseball and teams should not mock it in such horrific ways.
	And if you did not hear me earlier in the broadcast about this, Marco Rubio highlighted some of the things that this group, which is called the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, this is the drag group of men who mock Catholic nuns and that are going to be given an award, a community hero award from the LA Dodgers.
	This is some of the things that they do.
	They host pub crawls.
	You know what that means, where you're going from pub to pub and having a drink at each of, you know, however many different places?
	They do it while mocking the Stations of the Cross, which of course chronicle the suffering and the passion of Christ.
	They do that to mock Catholics.
	They also have a drag show that they perform at Easter.
	That features children's programming to get the kids involved, followed by a drag show where the adult performers dress in blasphemous imitations of Jesus and Mary.
	Their motto is, go and sin some more.
	Mocking Jesus' command to go and sin no more.
	And it just goes on and on and on, all of the horrific mockery of this religion.
	And there's no other religion in the world that this would be okay to do it to.
	Why are we always targets?
	I fail to understand.
	Don, I thank you for that.
	Staying in California, Mike, you are on America First with Dr. G. Bob Frantz sitting in.
	Fire away, Mike.
	Oh, hi.
	How are you?
	Good, sir.
	What's on your mind?
	I'm glad.
	I just want to comment just a moment on the issue with the Dodgers.
	I personally am not intending to go to any further games, and I'm wondering what the Dodgers would Say if the fans said, I'll go to your game if you have the players dress up like the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence are dressing up.
	Yeah, it would of course be, you know, ludicrous to think of such a thing, but so is this.
	Thank you for the call.
	Mike, I appreciate that.
	Yeah, and I'm going to tell you what, I don't want to hear any more what-ifs.
	Truthfully, what I want to hear from Dodger fans in Los Angeles is that you're never going to another game, you're never giving them another nickel, you're never buying another Dodger blue hat.
	Because I can tell you this, I haven't watched an inning of a Guardians game ever since they got rid of Chief Wahoo and the Cleveland Indians.
	Stand up for yourself.
	We'll be right back.
	Thanks for watching.
	I'm Seb Gawker.
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	It's 22 minutes past the hour.
	Bob Franz sitting in for Dr. G on America First.
	We appreciate you being here.
	Phone lines are open at 833-33-GORKA.
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	We're talking about the Dodgers and why it is that Christians and Catholics are open
	season for targeting on them, but no other religion would face such things.
	No one.
	No one would approve of such things.
	Are there anti-Semitics in America and around the world?
	Of course there are!
	But anybody who hears anti-Semitic behavior or language or events or mockery calls it out as such, and it is roundly ridiculed and stopped.
	But when it's Catholics, we're going to give a community hero award to a bunch of drag queens who dress up like nuns and mock Jesus Christ, his passion, his death, his rising, his mother.
	It's just Catholics and Christians don't matter, I guess.
	Listen, that's one of the reasons why I want you to listen to this.
	And if you're watching on SebGorka.com or Rumble.com or on the Salem News Channel, I want you to watch this cut.
	This is a New York City college professor.
	I believe the college is Hunter College in New York City.
	Her name is Shelene Rodriguez.
	And I want you to listen, and if you're watching the show today, watch this.
	This is exactly what I'm talking about.
	There's a pro-life table that is set up on the campus in one of the community buildings there at this college, and there's some pro-life kids there who are manning the table.
	It just has a bunch of flyers and informational stuff about pro-life, and one can imagine That the pro-lifers are probably religious, probably Christian, probably Catholic.
	Not for sure, but they may be just some non-denomination of Christianity that believes in life.
	But the pro-life message, they stand there behind a table and this happens.
	Video cut three.
	You're not educating st. This is st propaganda.
	What are you going to do, like anti-trans now?
	Is that what you're going to do next?
	I mean, no, we're talking about abortion.
	This is s**t. This is violent.
	You're triggering my students.
	I'm sorry about that.
	No, you're not.
	Because you can't even have a s**tty baby.
	So you don't even know what that is.
	You don't even know what this is.
	Get this s**t out of here.
	Get this s**t.
	So, for those who didn't see it, if you're only listening on your radio, this professor stood there and verbally assaulted the two presumably Christian, but not guaranteed, presumably Christian pro-lifers and declared that their table and their flyers promoting pro-life causes was violence.
	Because it triggers, quote, her students.
	She said that the table and the flyers and the existence of the pro-lifers on that campus was violence.
	And then she proceeded to commit violence.
	She flipped their laptop off of the table and wrecked all of their display and then stormed away.
	My point is this.
	The repercussions of her actions were very, very minimal.
	Hunter College released a statement that condemned her behavior and her attitude and what she did there, and said she has been, quote, appropriately disciplined, but she's still there.
	And I would submit to you that if that was a religious display set up by any other religion in the world, and I don't care if it's Islam, I don't care if it's Judaism, I don't care if it's Hinduism, I don't care what it is, Anybody who would attack a display like that and behave in such a way would be fired on the spot.
	But they're not.
	Because this is a pro-life display, presumably almost guaranteed to be set up by Christians.
	Christians don't count.
	That's the message that we are coming to in this culture war that continues at the baseball stadium.
	at the college community center, whatever you want to call student union center, they
	just don't count.
	We'll go back to the phones.
	We're going to go to, how about Zastain in California?
	A lot of California calls today and that's fine.
	Zachary, I'm not sure what part of California, but you're on America First.
	Bob Franz sitting in for Dr. Gorka.
	Fire away, Zach.
	Good afternoon.
	Thank you for speaking the truth.
	And I want to speak on the latest perpetual whatever they are.
	Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.
	Indulgence, that's the word I was making.
	I mean, just even put religion aside.
	Put religion and Christianity aside.
	We're talking drag queens.
	And you mentioned earlier that they have kids shows, events for kids before that, and then they immediately have a drag show afterwards.
	We're parading this in front of our children?
	And then you're going to put it up on national television in a stadium that I've had a lot of childhood memories on.
	If there's any Dodger fans that are true to their parents and their Christian beliefs, they will hit them where it hurts.
	Money talks.
	Boycott everything Dodger.
	Don't go to a single game.
	Sell your season ticket.
	Don't go, because if anything's going to reach out to the owners of the Dodgers, it's money.
	And if we want to prevent this event from happening on June 16th, I guarantee you, if the stands are empty between now and June 16th, I guarantee they will probably come back on this and re-uninvite them.
	Well, typically speaking, you're right.
	Money does talk, and money is what drives most of the decisions of these corporations, including the Dodgers, including Major League Baseball.
	And I thank you for your phone calls, Zachary.
	Great stuff.
	I hope that is exactly what happens.
	I don't have a whole lot of faith, though.
	I don't have a whole lot of faith in it.
	I don't know how the Dodgers are doing this year.
	Are they good?
	Are they any good?
	I don't know.
	I stopped watching baseball.
	Just like I stopped watching the NBA.
	Go woke, go broke.
	And I meant it.
	And I don't watch baseball.
	The Cleveland Indians had a playoff run last year.
	I didn't watch an inning because they stopped calling them Indians and started calling them Guardians.
	And I won't do it.
	I won't play their woke games.
	So if the Dodgers are doing, but the reality is, my point to that was, there were a whole lot of people who were just Indians fans who were angry about the Guardians but went to the games because they were doing well.
	So my suspicion is if the Dodgers are any good, and I don't know if they are or not, they're probably going to have a lot of people saying, I don't care what they do to the Catholic nuns and how they mock them, we're going to the games, the Dodgers are winning.
	Money talks, and unfortunately not enough people are willing to walk that walk.
	We'll be right back.
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	i'm not sure what this is, but it's a good game.
	I'm Seb Gawker.
	Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
	Thirty-three minutes past the hour.
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	We were just talking off the air again.
	Sometimes the best radio happens off the radio.
	And, um, I can't remember if it was Eric or Jeff who said, uh, you know, uh, that maybe the answer here is that there'll be some players who stand up, Christian or Catholic players for the Dodgers who will stand up and say, I'm not doing this.
	And it was brought up that some of the hockey players did, albeit not Americans, but there were some hockey players who refused to wear the warmup pride sweaters and use the rainbows colored sticks for warmups before their hockey games during their NHL pride nights.
	Hell, by the way, does every sports league have to do something to acknowledge people who like to sleep with people who are like them?
	I don't care!
	If you want to be L or G or B or whatever, go ahead.
	Why do I have to celebrate your sexual proclivities?
	I don't care if you're a guy who likes to sleep with other guys.
	I don't care if you're a girl who likes to sleep with other girls.
	I don't care if you're going in between.
	And I don't care if you have gender dysphoria.
	When is... I'm getting off to a tangent here, which I tend to do sometimes.
	When is split personality night at the ball yard?
	When is that?
	When is split personality night?
	When is multiple personality night, where somebody thinks they're four different people?
	If you can have the LGBT night to celebrate trans people who are boys who think they're girls, or girls who think they're boys, or boys and girls who think they're neither, they're non-binary, they're a little bit of each.
	Well, if they can do all of those weird, bizarre concoctions, then what about multiple personality disorder people?
	Their dysphoria or their disorder is no less important than the sexualized ones.
	When are they going to have those things?
	When is anorexia bulimia night?
	When is that happening?
	At the yard?
	They can do the gender dysphoria night, which is what the LGBTQ nonsense is.
	If they can do gender dysphoria night, why aren't... Because what that is, is when a person who is a male in their brain looks at their body and says, it's wrong!
	It's the wrong body!
	I need to be a different sex.
	And then they go and get bodily mutilation to make that happen.
	Well, in bulimia and anorexia, you have people, usually girls, usually pre-teen girls or teenage girls, who look at their body and say, It's fat!
	It's so fat!
	I'm so fat!
	I can't eat!
	I gotta purge!
	I gotta throw up everything I eat!
	It's a disorder!
	Their body isn't fat, but that's how they see it!
	And you know what we don't do?
	When a doctor, if somebody comes to them and they say, I'm just fat and I need to find out a way how to lose weight, and the doctor looks at them and they're so skinny that you can count their ribs, they say, no, you're not.
	We need to deal with this psychological impairment that you have that makes you think that you're fat.
	You're not.
	But when it comes to the, hey, I really think my body is wrong, it should be female, they go to the doctor and the doctor says, let's go!
	Let's book you a time and go cut off your breasts.
	Let's book you a time and go cut off your penis.
	Let's just do it.
	Why do we celebrate gender dysphoria at a ball yard, but not anorexia bulimia?
	Am I being extreme right now?
	You're damned right I am.
	But it is extreme.
	The situation is.
	So the LA Dodgers, going back to the point I was making, on Pride night on the NHL games, a bunch of players said, we're not doing it.
	And they took the attacks from the bullies in the LGBTQ community who says, if you don't celebrate us, if you don't march in our parade, wear our rainbows, celebrate our sexual lifestyles, then we're going to cancel you.
	So off the air we were just talking about it.
	Are there any baseball heroes left?
	Are there any Christians or Catholics who are going to look at the Dodgers and say, I'm not going to go out and play a game after they go out there and mock my faith dressed as nuns, hairy men dressed in lewd mockeries of nuns' outfits.
	They're holy.
	They're clothes.
	Is there anybody going to be willing to do that?
	And I was talking about this off the air.
	I remember when I used to do Sports Radio for a Living.
	We talked about this every year on Yom Kippur.
	That there were Jewish players who would not play a baseball game because it was a holy day of rest, they weren't allowed to work, whatever you call it, so they weren't allowed to play on this holy day, and they didn't.
	Are there any Catholics or Christians that have that kind of commitment to their faith that say, we will not play if you're going to invite These bizarre people to come in here and mock our faith and mock Catholics and mock Catholic nuns and do such egregiously blasphemous things.
	Are there any players who will be willing to do that?
	We had a caller who said, Dodger fans shouldn't go to the games.
	He's right.
	But there won't be any games to go to if the players will take a stand on this.
	And I hope there is a national movement to stop this nonsense, because you're going to see it all throughout the month of Groom.
	The entire month of Groom, we are going to see nothing but these pride displays in communities, at baseball games, at all kinds of other things.
	And if we don't step up and say enough is enough, well, we're going to be the ones who lose this culture war.
	I'll be back.
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	All right, thank you, Dr. G. It's 16 minutes before the top of the hour.
	Bob France sitting in for The Good Doctor on America First, live in Cleveland, Ohio, TheReliefFactor.com studios.
	We welcome you at 833-33-GORKA, 833-46-752.
	We're going to go to Brent, Line 5 in Los Angeles.
	Brent, welcome to the show.
	Go right ahead.
	God bless you, Bob.
	You know, as a Jew, I demand that the degenerate Dodgers go back to New York and take their satanic sisters of perpetual pedophilia with them, because not only do they demand to terrorize and rape children, Catholics, Christians, and Jews, Their demonic desire is to destroy America's beautiful and patriotic pastime, baseball, and the Democrat-Marxist blueprint to shred American society is being turbocharged by their trans-totalitarian demons.
	You know, it's interesting that you use the word demons on this, Brent, and thank you for the call.
	I appreciate it, because there's a companion story to the Dodger story that we've been discussing involving Target, the everything store Target, or whatever you want to call the retail store.
	Target, as you know, went left and went woke a long time ago by allowing males into female restrooms and so forth.
	Target has taken themselves to another level here.
	And again, it makes you wonder, did Bud Light not teach anyone anything?
	And Bud Light is suffering and hemorrhaging money still because of the boycott, which was never really even an organized boycott, just a whole bunch of people saying, not buying that crap anymore after they went with their trans cans.
	But Target, in reading from The Federalist now, has furthered its commitment to advancing radical gender ideology by partnering with a Satan supporter who has called for the eradication of anyone who disagrees with the mutilation of children to supply transgender-themed merchandise to Target's Pride collection.
	Let me say that again.
	When you said demonic, you weren't kidding.
	The recent collaboration between Target and the UK-based brand called Abpralen, and its designer named Eric, a self-proclaimed gay trans man, which I guess means woman.
	Featuring a sweatshirt emblazoned with a cure transphobia not trans people ribbon, a rainbow UFO tote bag that states too queer for here, and a pink we belong everywhere fanny pack.
	Being able to transition brings with it euphoria, comfort, self-love, and perhaps most importantly hope, Eric wrote in his Instagram post promoting a quote, transitioning saves lives image.
	What he didn't mention is the irreversible damage that gender experiments yield, such as sexual dysfunction, infertility, cardiac events, endometrial cancer, infections, and more.
	But, more importantly, this individual is known for his pro-Satanic or Satanist advocacy.
	He is defending his products as just drawing pictures, but he has a long history of producing and selling goods that elevate Satan and transgenderism in the same breath.
	One quick glance at the designer's website that is partnering with Target stores shows dozens of designs featuring satanic and sacrilegious symbols such as pentagrams, Satan Respects Pronouns t-shirts, and Gay as Hell stickers along with stained glass windows covered up by trans bodies are holy.
	So for me, Satan is hope, compassion, equality, and love, wrote this target partner.
	So naturally, Satan respects pronouns.
	He loves all LGBTQ people.
	I went with a variation of Baphomet for this design, a deity who themself is a mixture of genders, ideas, beings, and existences.
	They reject binary stereotypes and expectations.
	Perfect.
	Anyway, it's a long way of saying, you're right, when you talk about this movement, not everybody in it, but much of where it is headed is indeed demonic.
	And I cannot wait to see what happens with Target here.
	Will Bud Light teach them a lesson, or will Bud Light boycotters teach them that kind of a lesson?
	We're going to go to Kentucky.
	Matthew, you are on America First with Dr. G. Go right ahead.
	Yeah.
	All this conversation reminds me of something I experienced when I was in Canada in college back in the early 90s.
	Matthew, I'm having a real hard time hearing you, buddy.
	I don't know if you're on a speaker or a Bluetooth or something, but can we try that out a better way?
	I'm on the cell phone.
	Sorry.
	That's all right.
	Give it a shot.
	Go ahead.
	This reminds me of nothing but incrementalism that I saw back in college in the 90s in Canada.
	Back then, I went to a college and they had a support gay and lesbian day on Friday in January.
	And you supported them by wearing jeans.
	So all the guys in my dorm were like, who's got pants?
	Who's got khakis?
	Who's got shorts?
	So in the middle of January in Canada, we were wearing shorts and khakis because we're not going to support you by just wearing jeans, what we wear every day.
	And it's been 30, 35 years of incrementalism.
	Whittling us down on all these little things.
	First you wear jeans to support us.
	Now you come to a baseball game to support us.
	Tomorrow it's something else.
	I can't go back 35 years the way you just did, but thank you for the call, Matthew.
	But certainly it is incrementalism.
	We said this when Obergefell was decided.
	We said this when same-sex marriage was being pushed and pushed, and people said this is
	just the first step on what is going to become a very slippery slope down toward radicalism
	and down toward everything we're seeing right now, where you cannot turn around without
	having LGBTQ-themed agendas shoved right in your face.
	And if you don't acknowledge and salute, you are going to be canceled.
	So you're right, it is incrementalism, and we'll be right back.
	Thank you for joining us.
	We'll be right back.
	Thank you.
	I'm Seb Gorka.
	Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
	Yeah, just got some good news.
	Sitting in for Dr. G live here in Cleveland, Ohio, the ReliefFactor.com studios.
	Tony Bruno, legendary sports broadcaster and host.
	Tony Bruno in what I'm told is now semi-retirement.
	Gonna join us to talk about this Dodger story and about baseball and about why it is we can't get the woke crap out of our sports.
	Somebody asked me a long time ago why I was such a sports nut.
	Because I started out my career in sports radio 26 years ago now.
	And I did sports radio for a very long time.
	I worked in the National Football League.
	And I said, because I hate life.
	That's the reason I love sports.
	I hate life.
	All of the politics, all of the economic turmoil and the travails and everything that we are all dealing with on a regular basis now.
	Sports was my escape.
	I loved it.
	I was able to concentrate on games and arguments about who is better and all of this kind of stuff.
	And, you know, this is a great way to escape real life.
	Well, now people who want to escape real life by going to the sports, you can't.
	Can't go to a game without getting beaten over the head with politics and with culture wars and with LGBTQ nonsense.
	So anyway, Tony Bruno is going to talk about that.
	He's going to talk about what he thinks should happen here with this Dodgers situation.
	I'll ask him about the NHL and all of the wokeness in the NBA and even more.
	That's coming up right after the top of the hour.
	I want to squeeze a call in here from Joe in Orange County on Line 1.
	Joe, Bob France sitting in for Dr. G. Fire away.
	Yes, I was saying that the lawyers should get involved on the conservative side.
	I believe that the Dodgers flip-flopped because they were threatened with a lawsuit.
	They never get threatened with lawsuits from the conservatives.
	We just take it on the chin and keep going on.
	We've got to start fighting back.
	It's hate speech, what they're doing.
	If it was us doing it against them, mocking the transgender and all that, we'd be prosecuted for hate speech.
	Oh my gosh!
	You're so right!
	That's such a great point.
	I hadn't even thought about it, Joe.
	I mean, you know, why don't we pursue the hate speech angle here when it comes to at least what they're doing to the Catholics by mocking the nuns in such a way?
	Because you're right.
	If there were—and thank you for the call, my friend—if there were a group of Big strong heavily bearded manly men putting on tights and tutus and going out and dancing around the baseball field mocking gayness or mocking the stereotype of the you know the you know the
	There's some words you can say, some words you can't.
	I don't want to risk it here, but the reputation that used to go as a stereotype with being gay, if they were to dress in such ways, flop their wrists and use high voices and the old stereotypical thing about homosexuality, if they were to go out there and mock the LGBTQ community by acting that way, you better believe they would be charged with hate speech.
	You better believe they would be cancelled.
	But now the LGBTQ people get to go out there and mock our faith and our Christianity, our Catholicism, Catholic nuns, and there's no repercussions for that?
	There's no charges of hate speech?
	That's a great point you just made.
	Thank you for that great call.
	I'm Bob Franson for Dr. G, Hour 3 coming up.
	you you
	Hour number three underway now here on America First.
	Bob Frantz in for Dr. G live in the ReliefFactor.com studios of AM 1420 The Answer here in Cleveland, Ohio.
	Listen to me 9 to noon every day at WHKRadio.com if you are so inclined.
	We've been talking about this Dodger story all day long.
	And this could not be more perfectly timed.
	Somebody shared it with me on Twitter.
	The Babylon Bee's latest tweet and story from 4.50 p.m.
	this afternoon.
	Dodgers summon Satan to throw out first pitch at Pride Night.
	It could not be better.
	That is what I love about the B. That is what we all love about the B. So, since we're talking about the Dodgers, and since we're talking about wokeism invading all of our sports and taking away our sanctuary from all of this crap, what do you say we welcome one of the legends of sports talk radio to the program?
	I don't know how many years he was doing sports talk radio before he kind of semi-retired.
	He now hosts on NoFilter.net Fridays at 7 o'clock.
	He is the legendary Tony Bruno, joining us now on America First with Dr. G. Tony B., how are you?
	Well, let me check, Bob.
	Beautiful, man.
	Just beautiful.
	That's what I wanted to hear.
	That's exactly what I needed to hear.
	Tony, I've been a fan for a long time, as you well know.
	I really appreciate you semi-coming out of retirement to talk to us on broadcast radio.
	How's the no-filter thing doing for you in retirement?
	It's doing great.
	It was put together by a group of prominent athletes who were cancelled.
	Jeremy Roenick, the great hockey player, he was cancelled because he went on a podcast and was goofing off when they asked about his wife and a female co-host having a threesome on vacation.
	NBC got rid of him and then they got rid of hockey after they got rid of him.
	Coincidentally.
	And then Eric Burns, who was a former great baseball player, as you know, and out in the Bay Area, played for the Oakland A's and played for the Arizona Diamondbacks.
	These guys were canceled from the job because their opinions weren't even political, for the most part.
	Yet somehow, because somebody complained about them, they had to be removed from their jobs.
	And that's the world we live in now, as you well know.
	So just to kind of bring this around, The Barn here, Jeremy Rohnert got fired for talking about, in jest, a threesome with his wife and a female co-worker.
	And that's objectionable.
	That's not political.
	It's just offensive.
	The idea of it is offensive.
	The Los Angeles Dodgers can parade out there on their Pride Night sometime in the month of Groom.
	I call June Groom.
	In the month of Groom, they're going to parade, among others, a group called the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence who dress like Catholic nuns.
	Lewd, sexualized versions of Catholic nuns outfits to mock Christianity and Catholicism.
	This is done by one of the franchises in Major League Baseball, Tony Bruno, and that's okay.
	That's not offensive.
	No, it's not.
	I'm, you know, poor Tommy Lasorda, late great Tommy Lasorda, good friend of mine, a Philly area guy for many, many years, and talk about a guy who, and remember, they were doing this.
	They've been doing Pride Week and Pride Month now forever, and I'm now renouncing June as my birthday month.
	So now, as a Gemini, I am pronouncing myself.
	I want my birth month changed from June.
	I'll pick a different month.
	I just won't acknowledge my... I'm joking, obviously.
	The bottom line is this.
	I'm not!
	I changed the months.
	There's January, February, March, April, May, Groom, July, August, September, October, whenever.
	I call it the month of Groom, because that's what they do.
	It's a month of grooming children into a bizarre, deviant lifestyle.
	That's what it is.
	Sorry, I'm not sorry.
	No, it's not.
	They're not grooming just in the month of June.
	They take the entire month to remind everybody why people are tired of people who have a
	different lifestyle, having to be acceptable of it and having to accept that their children
	should transition into what they really are when they don't know what they really are,
	and many of them don't until they're in their 20s.
	Some don't know who they are until they're in their 30s.
	So that's the outrage here.
	I don't care about Pride Week.
	I don't care who does.
	You remember in Philadelphia, where I'm from, now I'm living in Southwest Florida, and I was driving around today.
	I wanted to check to see if there was any diversity inclusion issues down here.
	And I looked around and I saw children of all different colors playing together in a schoolyard as I drove by.
	And then I saw the story about, you know, living in Florida.
	I saw the story about, you know, how the NAACP wants to ban people because Florida is not diverse or inclusive, which is totally absurd if anybody has been here.
	And so that's the problem.
	And again, I don't care, but here's the biggest part, Bob.
	It's the real outrage.
	So they announced that they were going to have these, and these nuns have been doing this, these dudes have been doing this for decades.
	You know, I worked in San Francisco.
	I never lived there, but I lived in L.A.
	and I worked in San Francisco for 17 years.
	On Sports Talk Radio there with Gary Radnich, and I used to do a fun segment every morning, and we always used to have fun.
	We could have fun talking about different things that were peculiar or things that weren't normal and most people didn't agree with, but we had fun talking about it and discussing it.
	So when the Dodgers announced that they were going to bring these guys in, and they're guys, let's be honest, they're not women, they're men dressed up as women.
	So they're not even pretending that they're women, they're just guys.
	You know, who mock religion, and that's fine.
	If you want to mock religion, I'll tell you one thing they won't have at Dodger Stadium with the great Dodger in the sky.
	They will not have a bunch of gay Muslims walking on the field at, uh, guys dressed in Mohammed outfits.
	You think they would do that?
	They would allow that if somebody said, hey, listen.
	And there are gay Muslims.
	You know, they don't live in countries where they get thrown off of roofs, at least.
	If somebody went out there and said, hey, I represent gay Muslims, do you think the Dodgers would allow that?
	Do you think there'd be any outrage from the people who are, the people who say you can't, the people whose lives are threatened for even acknowledging the Prophet Muhammad?
	Yet the Catholic Church, and here's the biggest outrage to me, Bob, is the fact that they pulled these guys out after a response from the Catholic Church.
	by the way you know in boss angeles or anywhere in this country in this world
	the dodger fan base is primarily heavily including the players are primarily
	hispanics who are catholic by nature
	Their main religion, most Hispanics who go to Dodger Stadium, and regular people who go to Dodger Stadium, are either Catholics or Christians.
	So, they complained, and the Dodgers buckled under.
	Then, because the gay community now has the ultimate power to just go in there and say, how dare you not allow guys dressed as nuns go out there and, as you said, parade on the field for Pride Night.
	That's okay.
	So, in fact, that's the thing with the Dodgers thing.
	It's really ridiculous.
	Once there was outcry from season ticket holders and the Hispanic community talking about diversity, inclusion, and equity, they don't care.
	Once they got a couple of gay groups to get outraged, then they did an about-face and said, yeah, yeah, you know, we're wrong.
	We're sorry.
	We shouldn't have done this.
	That's the cowardice of the media and the sports world when they are afraid Now, let's be honest.
	Gay people watch sports.
	I don't care about gay people or whether they're Dodger fans or Phillies fans.
	That's not the biggest issue.
	The biggest issue is when you kowtow to a certain group who claim that they're not allowed to live their lives in this country.
	You know, I grew up in the 60s and I had great... I had gay friends.
	I was a great friend of a local Philly kid who became the first biggest transsexual in the United States.
	Rachel Harlow.
	And he had a club, and we were friends, and he would ride around with me.
	It was beautiful.
	He wanted to be a woman, and he became a woman back in the 60s.
	Fast forward 50 years later, and now they're acting as if gay people aren't accepted by anyone.
	It's absurd!
	It is.
	It is every bit of that.
	Great minds think alike.
	I did the same Muslim comparison you did at the top of the show today, and you're spot on about that.
	But aside from the gay thing or the LGBTQ thing, Tony Bruno is our guest, by the way, here on America First with Dr. G. Just wokeism in sports.
	People used to use sports as their relief from all of this stuff, from politics, from inflation, from this and that.
	You know, I go and watch the game with my buddies or with my wife or whatever, my family, have a beer, have a dog and watch a game and not be, you know, subjected to all this stuff.
	Tony, we can't get away from it now.
	It doesn't matter where we go, what we want to watch, it is brought and it is smashed into our faces.
	Exactly.
	And as you know, you've listened to me over my 50 years in radio, you know, I've always approached sports with humor.
	You know, obviously if there's tragedy in sports, you know, I'm smart enough and experienced enough to address tragedy.
	Because it's tragedy.
	But when you're having fun talking about sports, and that's when I was canceled for the last time, when I was on SiriusXM during the pandemic, I was hired to be on SiriusXM because there was no sports.
	And they hired me, and I've been on there many, many different occasions, whether I was with ESPN or Fox or Sporting News.
	So I always was on sports on Sirius XM or satellite radio through my various positions
	in sports.
	They hired me during the pandemic and then I was joking when the NBA had the bubble down
	there in Orlando.
	I was joking about the LeBron James situation where he was seen reading the first page of
	numerous books while he was trying to show the media how learned he is.
	And again, I don't hate LeBron James, I don't care what he reads, but if you're reading
	the first page of every book, I wasn't the first person who saw this and I jokingly said
	on the air, LeBron James, trying to tell everybody that he's learned and he reads all the time
	in the bubble.
	And I said, you know...
	Does anybody think LeBron James reads that many books?
	I asked him about the book that he was reading at the current time, and he said, oh, I hadn't gotten to that point yet.
	So I jokingly said on the air, which I've done in my entire career, you know, do you think LeBron James actually reads?
	And so then some guy at Deadspin, who I've never heard of, and it's a company that was killed and then brought back, He took off on me and then he got me cancelled, accusing me of saying that all NBA players can't read.
	Can't read.
	Yeah, you knew it was coming there.
	Tony, I got the heart out here, my friend.
	It's so great to hear your voice again.
	the great Tony Bruno joining us on America First with Dr. G.
	We'll be back.
	Thank you.
	Welcome to America First.
	you you
	you if you want we can go off on that and talk about the
	I'm Seb Gorka, nice to meet you.
	I'm Seb Gawker.
	Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
	Boy, we are just rolling right along on this Tuesday edition of America First.
	It's 20 minutes past the hour.
	Thanks for being with us.
	Bob France, indeed, live in the relieffactor.com studios of AM 1420, The Answer.
	That's home base for me, that's here in Cleveland, Ohio.
	From Tony Bruno and talking about wokeism in sports, now we go to one of the more bizarre stories I've heard in some time.
	We know why it was done, we know what the intention was, but it's still bizarre.
	The NAACP announced a travel advisory warning people of color and people who are LGBTQ oriented to avoid travel to the state of Florida.
	Florida is not welcoming.
	It's not hospitable.
	It's not a safe place.
	One TV commentator said it's a terrorist state for people of color.
	Joining us now to react to that is Horace Cooper, chairman of the Project 21 National Advisory Board.
	Mr. Cooper, good to have you on the program.
	How are you, sir?
	Thanks so much for having me on today.
	So, I didn't know that.
	You know, my good friend Peter Kursonow, who's the longest-serving member of the United States Civil Rights Commission.
	Rights Commission, yes.
	Yeah, I had him on my local program this morning, and he was off last week traveling, and I said, Pete, I'm just so glad you made it back, because did you go to Florida?
	I'm told that's a terrorist state for guys like you now.
	Peter Kursonow's a black man.
	Did you go to Florida?
	So, I mean, Horace Cooper, can you tell me, is it safe for blacks in Florida these days?
	Well, Peter Kersnow is a good friend of mine also, so it tells me that you traffic in the right crowd.
	I heard this news, and I have to say, I'm now wondering, are we supposed to get a new underground railroad so that we can rescue black Americans from Florida?
	The data shows that that's going to be a very, very difficult task.
	Black Americans are entering Florida at faster rates than the white population.
	In fact, Florida is the number one destination for small businesses operated by black Americans.
	The state sets a record for visitors of all stripes who go there.
	And so to find out that what the NAACP is alerting us, and by the way, The chairman of the board happily resides in the state of Florida.
	I mean, this is all so disconcerting to hear that this danger has just sort of crept up on us the way that it has.
	Or alternatively, this is just a grift on the part of race hustlers.
	Well, or it is just simply a shot across the bow in advance of what everybody knew was coming.
	Now we know it's specifically coming tomorrow, which is the announcement of Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, for the presidency.
	That's coming tomorrow night, but everybody knew it was coming this week.
	So was it just more of a political... I think Governor DeSantis' office called it a stunt.
	Was it just more of a political stunt saying, that guy that's about to announce for president, you know, he runs a terrorist state that is unsafe for black and brown people, ergo he is not electable?
	Okay, so let's refresh our terms.
	Grifters seek compensation for the things that they are undertaking.
	They don't do them because they are meritorious.
	They don't do them because they bring value.
	In fact, they often use deception and they often use techniques to Deceived people are to mislead people.
	So yes, the timing of this announcement pairs with the announcement of Governor DeSantis' run for president, but the grifters know that they have to rely upon the wokesters and the progressives to fund them.
	And they will tell whatever lie and whatever manipulation is needed In order to maintain their ability to keep their lovely house in Florida, to keep their kids in private schools, and to be able to leave lovely Florida to go to Aspen for special conferences.
	The Grifters aren't concerned at all about black Americans, people of color, or even the LGBTQ community.
	Horace Cooper is the chairman of the Project 21 National Advisory Book, also an author.
	This book put y'all back in chains.
	I know that sounds familiar.
	I don't know where I heard that before.
	How Joe Biden's policies hurt black Americans by Horace Cooper coming out on the 4th of July.
	Tell me about that title.
	I know I've heard it before somewhere, but with a different tone.
	But when Vice President Biden was assisting Barack Obama in getting reelected, he showed
	up in Virginia and said that the policies of his Republican opponent and those of conservatives
	in general would, quote, put y'all back in chains.
	There was absolutely, if there's anything to know about Mr.
	Romney, it's not that he's provocative.
	This is the most milquetoast of people to ever have run for president, in no way edgy.
	And yet Joe Biden, like he has often done, is more than willing to manipulate on the
	basis of race.
	You may recall that just last week he spoke at Howard University, and he repeated a lie
	about America and that his administration has been pushing that white supremacy is the
	greatest threat facing America.
	There's no evidence for this.
	There's no data for this.
	But it certainly serves his purposes.
	Just like when he said in 2020, if you don't vote for me, you ain't black.
	He is happy to divide Americans on racial lines as a way to achieve his political ends.
	My book's purpose is just to show how bad the policies of Joe Biden have actually affected black Americans, and they have been hurt mightily, even as this country has suffered overall as a result of his policies.
	Horace Cooper is our guest.
	There's so much, first of all, grist for the mill there, but let's hit that last part first.
	Not only have Biden's policies been extraordinarily negative for African Americans and for people of color, they stand in stark contrast To the state of Florida that the NAACP is now bashing because they hate Ron DeSantis and they fear Ron DeSantis.
	The state of Florida, I saw some statistics earlier today, African Americans thrive in Florida so much more so than the national average when it comes to testing scores for students, when it comes to unemployment rates, when it comes to income, when it comes to promotion and so forth.
	African Americans thrive, people of color in general thrive in Florida compared to the national average, and yet it's Biden that is sitting here saying that it's Republicans that are the greatest threat, and whites that are the greatest threat to African Americans in America.
	Yeah, it's a great idea that they have.
	And that is, who are you going to believe?
	Them or your lying eyes?
	Unemployment is at one of the lowest rates for black Americans in the state of Florida.
	Under former President Trump, and here's a hint, my first book is How Trump is Making Black America Great Again.
	That came out in 2020.
	Under President Trump, record numbers of black Americans were hired.
	They bought vehicles.
	They got their kids, their uncle, their nephew, off their couch and into their own places.
	Record numbers of black Americans succeeded.
	And they did so while the rest of the country was achieving.
	It's under Joe Biden, blacks are hurt, and so is the rest of America.
	He has the reverse Midas touch.
	So very well said.
	That's why we asked him to come on, Horace Cooper, chairman of the Project 21 National Advisory Board.
	Get that book when it comes out on July 4th.
	Put y'all back in chains.
	A Joe Biden special about how Joe Biden's policies hurt black Americans.
	Thank you, Horace Cooper.
	I'm Bob France in for Dr. G back after this.
	Thanks for watching.
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	Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
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	Bob Frantz sitting in for Dr. G. Twenty-six minutes left in the broadcast.
	I want to spend some time in these last 26 minutes talking about the big news that started the show today.
	It was just before we came on the air we found out that Governor Ron DeSantis makes it official tomorrow.
	The Florida governor, enormously popular in his state.
	He won the state of Florida in 2022 by numbers never, ever before achieved by a Republican
	in that state.
	He won 56 percent of the Hispanic vote in Florida.
	He won Dade County, Florida, things no Republican has ever done.
	He won by 1.8 million votes in this after just squeaking by in 2018 when he first became
	governor.
	He came in and dominated the state in good ways for four years and was elected by a landslide.
	It's an extraordinary thing.
	And now he's running for president.
	And we know that Donald Trump is afraid of that challenge.
	We know that's the one guy he is worried about, because you can tell by the way he talks about him.
	I want your thoughts on that.
	You know, we started this show talking about that, and then the Dodgers story, and we've just been pretty much pro-baseball discussion ever since.
	But in this last segment or two of the show, I want to know.
	If you're a Trump supporter, how do you feel about the DeSantis entry into the race?
	If you're a DeSantis supporter, do you think he can make up that gap that there is in the primary polling right now?
	How do you feel about that race now, that it has Trump and DeSantis as of tomorrow?
	Tim Scott is in.
	Nikki Haley is in.
	Vivek Ramaswamy is in.
	Larry Elder is in.
	Asa Hutchinson is in.
	Most of these people don't have much of a shot, but Ron DeSantis is clearly the biggest threat to Donald Trump.
	I want your thoughts.
	833-33-GORKA, 833-46752.
	But on the baseball story, we'll go to Linda on Line 1 in New Jersey.
	Let's talk about mocking Christians and Catholics from the Los Angeles Dodgers.
	Linda, go right ahead.
	Hi.
	Yes, my husband was born in Brooklyn.
	Hasn't lived there for a long time.
	But anyway, he has been an avid Dodgers fan ever since he was a little boy.
	So he is, I mean, Dodgers play.
	He wears a Dodgers shirt, his hat, the whole bit.
	And when this happened, he's out of town right now.
	When he called me, he said, you know, oh, good.
	They're not going to bow down to this.
	And then they reversed.
	So he's furious.
	So that's the end of that.
	I mean, when, when it all started with the kneeling and the football, I mean, that's just, you know, he started watching soccer.
	I mean, it's just, it's crazy.
	It's crazy.
	And I, one of the callers said something about, you know, we need to start doing these things where we take lawsuits, you know, because they're attacking Christianity and, and, um, Catholicism and every other religion.
	So, I think they're right.
	We really need to do something about this because it just continues and it's gotten worse and worse.
	It has.
	And I'm so glad to hear your husband, you know, the team that he's been associated with and a fan of for so long, that he was willing and had the courage to drop them.
	Because that is exactly what has to happen.
	Again, money speaks to these corporations.
	And Linda, thank you for the phone call there in New Jersey.
	Money speaks.
	Money spoke to Bud Light.
	How quickly did they fire that ad agency and the executive within Anheuser-Busch that put that trans campaign together?
	Because money spoke, and your husband is doing the right thing, and we need millions of fans to do the same thing.
	Listen, it's not easy.
	I've been a sports guy my entire life.
	Football first, basketball and baseball pretty much tied for second.
	Those have been my sports.
	I'm not a soccer fan, hockey a little bit, but mostly when Gretzky used to play.
	I did sports radio for a long time in my career before I moved over to doing news talk and political talk.
	And I can tell you this, it was very, very hard for me not to watch the Indians in the playoffs last year.
	But guess what?
	Since they took the name Indians off the jersey in a nod to wokeism and they became the guardians, the traffic statues, I stopped.
	I'm not watching.
	Same thing with the NBA.
	I have not watched the NBA since they went woke, really since the summer of 2020, and they started allowing the players to wear their warm-ups with all of this, you know, left-wing slogans on their warm-ups and so forth.
	It's hard, but it's what we have to do if we want to make change.
	right back after this.
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	I want to go back to the phones at 833-33-Gorka.
	Super quick though, just to answer two questions from DMs that I'm receiving.
	People who are watching, if you're watching the broadcast instead of listening to it on the radio, if you're watching at SebGorka.com or on Rumble.com, Or on the Salem News Channel.
	Some people are asking, what's on your shirt?
	What's on your shirt?
	Because they can see I'm wearing a t-shirt underneath my blazer.
	And I'll be happy to show you.
	Let me back up a little bit into camera range here.
	But as you can see, you better believe I am, when I go on national radio, I will rep anytime I can, Let's Go Brandon.
	Because that is exactly how we all have to approach this coming campaign.
	I don't care who you back, but it's gotta be anybody other than Joe Brandon.
	Let's Go Brandon is exactly what this t-shirt says.
	The second one is, somebody asked me on a DM, why do you say Trump is afraid of DeSantis?
	And the reason should be obvious.
	He has been campaigning against DeSantis for like five months now with attack ads, attack speeches, and so forth.
	Nobody else has gotten that treatment, including what really brings this home is yesterday, President Trump greeted Senator Tim Scott's entry into the Republican primary race with a warm embrace.
	He said, and this is on Truth Social, quote, Good luck to Senator Tim Scott in entering the Republican presidential primary race.
	It's rapidly loading up with lots of people, and Tim is a big step up from Ron DeSantimonious, who is totally unelectable.
	I got Opportunity Zones done with Tim, a big deal that has been highly successful.
	Good luck, Tim!
	Now, if you're asking, what does that mean?
	What am I saying?
	Well, here's what I'm saying.
	I'm stating the obvious.
	President Trump endorsed Tim Scott for Senate.
	President Trump says that if I endorse you and you run against me, that's disloyal.
	But he's not calling Senator Scott disloyal.
	He's welcoming him to the race and saying, let's go.
	Good luck.
	He endorsed Ron DeSantis, and Ron DeSantis even hadn't made his announcement yet.
	That's coming tomorrow, but there was noise that he was going to run in 2024.
	And President Trump went out of his way to say that was disloyal, because I endorsed him for governor, and now you want to run against me and take my job?
	You remember when he said this quote multiple times?
	When I hear that he might run, I consider that very disloyal.
	But it's not about loyalty.
	To me it is.
	It's always about loyalty, but for a lot of people it's not about that.
	That's what he said about Ron DeSantis.
	It's disloyal for me to support him with an endorsement, and for him to then want to run against me.
	Well, here's Tim Scott.
	President Trump endorsed him.
	And Tim Scott now says, I want your job, I want to run against you, I want to win the nomination against you, and President Trump says, come on into the race, good luck!
	If that's not an indication that President Trump, it's not about loyalty,
	it's he's concerned that DeSantis' popularity and his growth in Florida from a 0.8 percent,
	or whatever it was, win in 2018 to a massive 1.8 million vote, massive super majority
	win in 2022 because of the work he did that.
	Ron DeSantis has opened a lot of eyes.
	He has made a lot of people believers in his anti-woke policies.
	He will not back down to Disney.
	He will not back down to the woke mob when it comes to their branding of his remodeling of the education in Florida as being the don't say gay bill and all this other stuff.
	He has just proven to be a conservative warrior at every step of the way.
	And President Trump knows that's going to carry a lot of weight with people.
	So when I say afraid of him, I don't mean that in a literal sense, but he knows that there's one real legitimate threat to him in this potential primary fight.
	It's not Tim Scott.
	That's why he says, welcome aboard.
	It's not Nikki Haley.
	Hey, come on in.
	It's not Asa Hutchinson.
	It's not Larry Elder or Vivek Ramaswamy or anybody else.
	Because the more people there are in the I-don't-want-Trump vote to split the I-don't-want-Trump votes, the better it is for President Trump.
	But the one guy that might be a tough thing to deal with here is Ron DeSantis.
	And that's why he has just savaged him and attacked him at every turn.
	And it turns a lot of people off.
	If he had approached Ron DeSantis the same way he approached Tim Scott, you know what I believe?
	I believe it would have gone better for President Trump.
	I really do.
	If he said, hey, Ron DeSantis is doing a great job in Florida.
	He's going to be a great leader at the national level one day.
	Not yet.
	Because he's not ready yet.
	I'm better.
	And we're going to make America great again with my second term.
	But good luck, Ron DeSantis.
	If he had approached it that way, I promise you, he'd win over a lot more fans.
	Who might be supportive of DeSantis, but when you savage him and call him unelectable, DeSanctimonious, you know, Meatball Ron, and all the other derogatory things he has said, I think that's going to lead to a lot more problems than he really wants to have to deal with.
	So Ron DeSantis is going to be in as of tomorrow at about 6 p.m.
	And by the way, the Trump campaign has responded, as I said.
	They're mocking him for doing the announcement on Twitter, as opposed to a grand event the way President Trump did.
	And it's on now.
	DeSantis on Twitter, Trump on Truth Social, and away we go.
	I still welcome your thoughts right after this.
	Thank you.
	you you
	you I'm Seb Gorka. Now let's get back to the show with Bob
	France.
	All right, final segment.
	Thank you, Dr. G, for letting me sit in.
	Dr. G's been traveling today.
	By the way, he will be back live tomorrow on America First.
	I want to wrap this last segment with a rapid fire.
	As many calls as we can get in to tell me whether or not you are for DeSantis now that he officially enters tomorrow, or if you are still in President Trump's camp.
	Try to keep your comments to 20 seconds or so so that I can get everybody in as quickly as we can.
	We're going to start out on line one.
	George is from my hometown here in Cleveland.
	George, fire away.
	Hi, Bob.
	Thank you for taking my call.
	I'm an America First supporter all the way.
	Trump has been our standard bearer up until this point, because he said the things that everybody thought, but that no politician had the guts to say.
	However, I feel like DeSantis is a better standard bearer now for the America First movement, because he is fighting the culture wars.
	He is fighting against wokeism and winning.
	He has won Florida by 19 points.
	DeSantis has given us a blueprint for conservative victories nationwide.
	We can defeat Biden.
	That's a popular theme.
	I've heard a lot of people saying that.
	Thank you for the call, George.
	He has laid a blueprint.
	So you were, and still are, for America First, but a new standard-bearer.
	And I think that's a popular theme for DeSantis supporters who say, look, I'm still for America First policies, but we need a new guy.
	Let's see, Randy in Knoxville, Tennessee.
	My daughter's going to be there in August, starting law school at UT.
	Randy, welcome.
	Go ahead, sir.
	Hey, yes sir, thank you, it's a great place here.
	The people who are funding DeSantis, Ken Griffin, the same multi-billionaire that funded Obama, funded John McCain, Bob, you better look out who's pulling the strings on this guy.
	And yesterday, DeSantis said, I have not yet Begun to fight.
	I mean, dude, this is 2023.
	You think you're John Paul Jones because you were in the Navy?
	Give me a break.
	Is that all you got?
	I do like, I do love, I do love, and thank you for the call, my friend.
	I do love his service, by the way, and I love his experience in that regard.
	By the way, Ken Griffin is somebody that backed President Trump.
	You said he backed Obama.
	He also backed President Trump.
	The same people you're talking about that you're worried about funding Ron DeSantis, many of them backed President Trump last time around, and the last two times around.
	There's an article in the Washington Times you should read about some of the big buck donors who backed President Trump, who have now taken their money and said it's going behind DeSantis.
	So if you complain that, hey, he's going to be bought by wealthy donors, well, these same wealthy donors backed President Trump last time around, so we've got to be careful there.
	Randy, thank you.
	Let's go to Matt in San Antonio.
	Matt, you're on the air.
	Go right ahead.
	Hey, thank you, sir.
	I'll tell you what, I was a supporter of Trump, but I'm also an America First, and I do not see how he can win, even if he is the nominee.
	They found 81 million votes against that guy in 2020.
	They'll find 100 million votes against him in 2024, because they have perfected a way to make it happen.
	That's why they want Trump and DeSantis to battle it out so that way they split the vote and it'll be even easier.
	Matt, I appreciate your call and your opinion and everybody else's.
	Those I did not get on the air, I apologize.
	But you can call Dr. G back tomorrow and continue this conversation.
	I know he'll be ready for you.
	Thanks everyone for letting me be a part of the day.

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