Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Tucker Carlson leaves; are there any conservatives left at Fox?
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Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I would say two things that are, I think we're thinking about.
The first is, as you look around and you see so many people break under the strain, under the downward pressure of whatever this is that we're going through, and you look with disdain and sadness as you see people you know become quizlings, you see them revealed as cowards, you see them going along with the new new thing, which is clearly a poisonous thing, a silly thing.
You know, saying things you know they don't believe because they want to keep their jobs.
If there's a single person in this room who hasn't seen that through George Floyd and COVID and the Ukraine war, raise your hand.
Oh, nobody?
Right.
You all know what I'm talking about.
And you're so disappointed in people.
You know, you are.
And you realize that the herd instinct is maybe the strongest instinct.
I mean, it may be stronger than the hunger and sex instincts, actually.
The instinct, which again is inherent, to be like everybody else and not to be cast out of the group, not to be shunned, that's a very strong impulse in all of us from birth.
And it takes over, unfortunately, in moments like this, and it's harnessed, in fact, by bad people in moments like this, to produce uniformity.
And you see people going along with this, and you lose respect for them.
And that's certainly happened to me at scale over the past three years.
I'm not mad at people, I'm just sad.
I'm disappointed.
How could you go along with this?
You know it's not true, but you're saying it anyway?
Really?
You're putting your pronouns in your email?
You're ridiculous.
You know, but no one else thinks it's ridiculous.
Oh no, it's the pronouns in the email!
What does that even mean?
What does that even mean?
That is the last speech given by someone called Tucker Carlson before he left Fox News this morning.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
I'm your host for America First.
Welcome.
Mondays can often be a slow news day.
Eric, do you think we'll have problems knowing what to talk about today?
Not on this Monday.
It's great this news broke right just a couple hours before the show started.
And so many news items broke this morning just before this show started.
That was Tucker Carlson addressing the Heritage Foundation's 50th Anniversary Gala Dinner.
I was there with my beautiful wife, Katie, in a room with 2,500 of my closest friends.
It was the Heritage Foundation's Biggest event ever.
My wife walked away afterwards and said, how do you serve 2,500 filet mignon steaks at the same time?
I don't know, but the gay lord knows how to do it.
And Tucker was the speaker, the keynote.
And that's a little clip.
I've posted the whole speech, all 26 minutes of it, on all my social media platforms.
Look for Seb Gawker, Sebastian Gawker, everywhere where there is social media, except YouTube, because they're a bunch of fascists.
And watch it after the show, after 6 o'clock Eastern.
Let's talk about the news that happened since Tucker gave that speech on Friday.
He's gone.
He's left Fox News.
Now, first things first, please.
I can't tell you how peculiar it is to have friends, followers, listeners, viewers, text me, DM me about... Oh my gosh!
I can't believe it!
I had one lovely lady I know who said, we're melting down here.
As a conservative.
Why?
Whatever the internal shenanigans there, whether he resigned or was fired, let's be clear, Dan Bongino, who left Fox a week ago, he left them.
He told me three weeks ago, you know, confidentially, he's leaving because Fox is where he doesn't want to be.
And they're getting possessive, controlling, and he's out of there.
I think that's probably what happened with Tucker.
It's not what happened with Don Lemon.
Don Lemon, we found out just a few moments ago, was fired from CNN this morning.
And they didn't even tell him that he was fired.
That's a case of getting rid of dead wood.
But Fox, it's different.
As I just tweeted out, Tucker Carlson and the conservative movement are very fortunate today.
Why?
Well, it begins with calling Arizona early for Biden.
Since that moment in the 2020 election, Fox has decided to vote with its feet, with its coverage, with its censorship, with its firing of great patriots.
My Salem colleague, Trish Reagan, my friend Lou Dobbs, and others, they have gone establishment.
A conservative entity that hosted the likes of Sean Hannity and Tucker went establishment.
I left there even before the 2020 election.
Why?
Because Fox wanted to own me.
I'll give you a little bit of inside baseball.
I had a Fox contributors contract before I joined the Trump administration.
And I'm grateful to the people who made that happen.
You know who you are.
It's one of the reasons my first book, Defeating Jihad, became a New York Times bestseller.
Thanks to people like Sean.
Then I suspended my contract when I went into the White House.
Because that's not appropriate.
When I left the White House, I was rehired as a contributor to Fox.
And I did that for a while.
I did it for two years, exactly.
And then when it was time to negotiate, I said, thanks, but no thanks.
I think I was probably the first guy to walk away from that kind of deal, and I think I shocked them.
In the New York headquarters.
Because I said, no, you can't own my podcast rights.
You can't ban me from doing interviews on foreign networks like I do with the BBC, with Talk TV, with GB News.
No, you can't control me.
I'm not your puppet.
Thanks, but no thanks!
And I left them there.
Soon after, thanks to Chris Ruddy and others, Elliot Jacobson, I moved to Newsmax, where I'm very happy not being just a contributor, but having a weekly show every Sunday night.
Dan decided to do the same thing.
Tucker may have decided to do the same thing, but whether he was fired, pushed out, or left, man, he's lucky, and so are we.
As I just tweeted, Tucker Carlson is now free of the Murdochs!
Tucker Carlson is now free of Paul Ryan on the board at Fox.
Don't worry for him.
He can do it, Joe Rogan.
He's got millions of followers.
It's the most successful cable TV show in America.
He'll do just fine.
And he won't be under the thumb of the rhinos.
Jeff, you think, in the big scheme of things, this doesn't even make a big dent in Magga or America First, correct?
Well, no, I don't think so.
No, I mean, Tucker's gonna leave, he's gonna go somewhere else.
I don't think that he's being pushed out by Fox News or anything.
I think they just didn't come to terms, or whatever it was.
And the future of Fox?
I still think it's gonna be pretty well.
I mean, they're basically, it's kind of, I know it's going soft, it's kind of anti-Democrat now.
Their audience isn't really going to flip, I think, the podcast or whatever.
But that's because of the demo.
That's because, you know, the average viewer is like in their late 60s.
Yeah, I think for at least the next few years, Fox will be fine.
Five years and then who knows, right?
Yeah, might have some issues then.
Might have some issues.
OK, guys, if you're conservative, it's a good day.
Tucker's free and Lemon is fired.
And Lemon, he's not building anything.
He's not going to create a podcast anybody's listening to.
So have the right perspective.
MAGA moves on and is stronger than ever and Fox is a dying brand.
So much more to discuss.
We've got DeSantis in Italy making some very weird statements.
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Explosive details of the Transgender mass killer from Nashville.
Roy Epps is giving a puff piece interview by 60 minutes.
My former boss President Trump on Mark Levin for an hour.
AOC wants to date Tucker Carlson.
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Wow, we're going to have fun today.
Let's see.
Give me two seconds.
Give me 2, 6, and 7 in full, please.
Okay, so you said you were in touch with hundreds, but there are about 16,000 or so people who have to get out of this country.
You're not able to get in touch with all of them, right?
Don, I want to push back on this idea that there are 16,000 Americans who want to get out.
We don't have firm estimates of the exact number of American citizens who are in Sudan.
They don't have to register with us.
Sorry, go to 5, 6, 7.
He's got a rock star status right now.
He came to Texas.
The largest campaign fundraisers for the Republican Party in Houston and in Dallas in history, raising over a million dollars each.
Biggest fundraiser in the history of the New Hampshire Republican Party this past week.
And better to make mistakes and start correcting those mistakes earlier rather than later.
AND I THINK THAT'S A And talking with you is really the most impressive conversation I've had.
Number one, there's very few people who could sit there and speak the way you do from subject to subject to subject to subject.
If people would let you speak and actually listen to you.
While you have the enormous pressure on your shoulders of these grand juries and other things going on, and you still are able to do it.
That is absolutely remarkable.
And as you go through the history of your presidency, and I read these letters in this book, it was a phenomenal presidency.
Alright, next.
Phenomenal presidency.
He's obsessed with me.
Going to any means possible to destroy my life.
And our lives.
Why?
To shift blame on somebody else.
If you look at it, Fox News, Marjorie Taylor Greene.
All right, thanks.
Ted Cruz.
All right, the mic's off.
Thank you.
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California California Institute of Technology He's obsessed with me.
He's going to any means possible to destroy my life and our lives.
Why?
To shift blame on somebody else.
If you look at it, Fox News, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Ted Cruz, Gates, they're all telling us before this thing that it was stolen.
So you tell me, who has more impact on people, them or me?
Mr. G, that's not Ray Epps.
It doesn't look like him at all.
Has he had plans?
Is he in the Witness Protection Program?
I don't recognize him.
He does have a beard.
Now, I have never seen a beard, though, change someone's appearance so much.
I would have no idea if I ran into him that that was Ray Epps.
And how come 60 Minutes interviewed him and didn't ask him how he magically disappeared off the FBI Most Wanted list?
Well, he was, because of all the death threats that he had and all that type of stuff, he had to go into hiding.
That's what it was about.
Oh, that's so nice of the FBI, because they're always so nice to people who wear MAGA hats.
Oh my gosh, he doesn't like Tucker Carlson.
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All right, so much to discuss with our first guest of the day, the lady who broke the original laptop from hell story when she was at some Some kind of new newspaper.
Who founded it?
Oh yeah, Alexander Hamilton.
It's called the New York Post.
He's now politics editor for Breitbart.com.
Emma Jo Morris.
It's been a while.
Hey, thank you so much for having me on.
I have missed you.
It's been a while.
We were glad to have you back.
Now let's just tee things up.
The recent revelations of the 51, my friend Chris Plant calls them the felonious 51 intelligence operatives, former CIA directors.
Just a reminder from the presidential campaign what the future president said about the Hunter Biden laptop, his son's confirmed laptops.
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There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what this he's accusing me of is a Russian plant.
They have said that this is has all the four, five former heads of the CIA, both parties say what he's saying is a bunch of garbage.
Nobody believes it except his and his good friend Rudy Giuliani.
You mean the laptop is now another Russia, Russia, Russia hoax?
That's exactly Is this where you're going?
This is where he's going!
Yeah, that's a moment that could have changed history forever if President Trump, like Dan Bonge just suggested, pulled out the receipt from the store that said, yeah, here's your son's signature on the deposit form.
Tell us if, you know, somebody's been under a rock for the last week, Emma Jo Morris, what do we now know about that letter saying, oh, it's Russian disinformation, that's not Hunter's laptop?
Well, right.
So that was obviously absurd the day that it published.
And actually, the day that it published, when I saw that, I knew that we were right on target.
Because as we've seen, from the day that Trump won the election, if they have nothing to say, if they have no justification, if the security state essentially has been humiliated, they pivot to saying that it's Putin, actually.
And if you believe it, then you are working for Putin or whatever.
So, you know, from day one, that was just absolutely absurd and insulting to the intelligence of the American people.
But then what we found out this week was that not only was this spun up out of thin air by the CIA, but it was spun up out of thin air by the CIA at the behest of Anthony Blinken.
Who at the time was a senior member of the campaign and is now obviously the Secretary of State.
So he's fallen up after this stunt, which I suppose... And let's break it down.
Let's be specific.
So who coordinated with Blinken to collect the signatures of these 50 apparatchiks who were working on behalf of the Biden campaign?
Oh, good question.
I mean, that's a question for Congress to ask.
And actually, you know, I can tell you on this show, I've been in touch with members of the weaponization of government committee.
Actually, just today I was texting with some of those guys.
And I was told that they won't even need to subpoena Blinken because so much more is coming.
What?
We don't know yet.
Yeah.
That's breaking news on this show, Salem News.
So the fact...
So the fact that the acting director of the CIA, Mike Morrell, let's be clear here, collaborated with the foreign policy advisor of the Biden campaign, Antony Blinken, who then would be rewarded with the post of being the Secretary of State, they literally colluded to make this
Russian-style, you know, Izvestia, Pravda-style disinformation letter to destroy the story you had broken.
That fact that we now know because Mike Morrell gave sworn testimony to the committee.
You've heard from Capitol Hill that that's just the tip of the iceberg in terms of revelations?
That's correct.
That's right.
That's right.
And honestly, listen, I mean, do you blame a campaign operative for trying to help his boss win the election?
That's literally his job.
Okay.
I think that the part that's so repulsive about this is that, A, the CIA was a willing participant in the campaign, apparently, and then that Politico became a participant in the campaign, apparently.
And that is the part that is so pernicious.
Yeah.
That's shocking that the CIA did that.
How about this one?
If you just take a step back, wherever you stand on the war in Ukraine and Russia and Putin, think about what these people did.
These are career intelligence officers.
Some of them are former directors of the CIA who are prepared to falsify a story about Russian actions in a presidential campaign that didn't happen, saying a nation with 11 time zones and 5,000 nuclear warheads, we can just lie about what they're doing in America.
From my perspective as a foreign policy geek, that's even worse, Amateur!
Oh, it's terrifying.
It's absolutely terrifying.
And we realized this with the Twitter files, right?
It's like, well, what's the job of the CIA?
The CIA is basically employed to go to foreign countries and to shape public opinion, have wars, have coups, gather intelligence in order to create an environment where it is most favorable to United States interests.
Yeah.
What happened in 2020?
Well, the CIA turned inward.
and performed a similar operation that they would perform anywhere in the Middle East or in Eastern Europe.
And they did it in the United States of America.
Bingo.
And what they did was they, instead of, you know, American interests, what does that mean in this case?
It means security state interests.
And what does that mean?
It means something antithetical to the interests of the American people and their civil liberties.
Let's talk about how the rest of the media has behaved since that letter was signed by 51 members of the intelligence community, former and acting.
We're talking to Emma Jo Morris.
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We'll be back with Emma Jo in a second.
Hi, who's this? who's this?
Good, hanging in there.
I got your email.
Sorry, I played phone tag with Christine last week and I'm sure she's out this afternoon so I wanted to get a hold of you.
Do you have a few minutes now?
You're playing phone tag with who?
Excellent.
Well, hey, thanks for reaching out to me.
Hang on.
Hang on.
Answer the question.
You played phone tag.
Stop talking!
You played phone tag with who?
Hey!
Hey!
Do you have ears?
I'm asking you a question.
Who did you say you were playing phone tag with?
Okay, get rid of him.
Get rid of him.
What was that, Jeff?
I'm sure it was a prank specifically.
No, I don't even think he knew he was talking to you because I feel like he was talking to somebody else on a different line and didn't even realize it.
Was it like a robocall thing?
No.
He was normal, but I just didn't feel like he was going to say something.
It was just weird about it.
But that, I don't feel like... I think he was talking to somebody else just now.
Alright, I think we need videos of budgerigars on miniature skateboards.
Don't we need birds on skateboards?
I do like birds.
But is it a real bird, Eric?
The question is, is this, on a sca- look, look.
Is it a deepfake?
Look at that, look at that.
Skating, skating budgerigars.
That's, that's pretty great.
You can't go wrong with birds, man.
But are birds real?
That's the question.
Oh, that's, I mean, yeah, whether or not it comes down to, you know, are they, are they government plants, or are they, uh... Are they surveillance vessels?
They're drones, they're drones.
To Oprah Winfrey.
What have I not seen?
Oh, Oprah, give me, hang on, hang on, hang on. - This is cut eight? - Yeah, give me eight. - To Oprah Winfrey, she writes you three letters that you have in the book.
She adores you.
She writes, only a king knows how to treat a queen.
You being the king, she being the queen.
She would visit you at Mar-a-Lago often.
And now she says, well, that was 20 years ago.
What do you make of that?
Well, I haven't changed.
And my views haven't changed very much.
I think I've been pretty consistent over the years.
We want security.
We want a great country.
We want a strong military.
We want borders.
And we want good elections.
and education and housing and everything.
I certainly haven't changed very much.
I think the thing that changes, I ran for office, she actually says in one of her letters, I think somewhat kiddingly, but we should run together what a team would be. - And give me 13. - Make no mistake about it.
The hard right anti-choice MAGA wing in this country will keep working and working and working to take away all women's rights.
But we will fight it and fight it and fight it.
Lee Zeldin just endorsed Trump.
I saw it, he just sent it to me.
Let's try and get him on.
All right.
Mics are on.
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Apparently at TuckerCarlson.com, according to Mr. G, I can't read it right now.
I'm live on air.
Millions of you listening.
There's a pretty strong indication of he's starting his own thing.
And it's going to be big.
I'm excited.
I'll give you the details.
But we've got to go back to our guest.
Dan, Diana, Klaus, Judy, Antoinette, don't go anywhere.
We've got to talk to Emma Jo now.
Emma Jo Morris, a politics editor for Breitbart.com.
Emma Jo, why did you become a journalist?
Um, because I like to tell people what's going on, I like to be in the loop, and I like to actually, you know, feel like I'm doing something for this country in some small way.
So, you didn't do it to become a liar, and you wanted to tell the truth, and if you screwed up, would you admit it?
Yeah, well, I would probably not be working, so I'd be admitting it and muttering, you know, on some corner in New York City.
You'd be telling Alex, please don't fire me.
All right, Emma Jo, your reaction as a journalist, we now know The letter of the 51 Intel operatives was instigated by the Biden campaign and the CIA.
It was all a lie.
It distorted an election, maybe stole an election.
Forget about, you know, Dominion and stuffed ballot boxes.
That by itself is reason enough to say that election was skewed.
We now know that.
This is a fact.
We've got sworn depositions.
What has the mainstream media done?
I mean, maybe I missed it.
Maybe, you know, doing the radio show and the TV show, I'm just too busy.
Have the rest of your colleagues in the mainstream media said, oopsie, we're sorry?
Well, so this is the thing, like they're caught in a really tough spot.
Because what happened when Natasha Bertrand and Politico published originally that article about the 51 former intelligence officials say it's Russian disinformation.
They go ahead and obediently crib the story.
And they create this mainstream narrative that the laptop from hell reporting is Russian disinformation.
Where did that come from?
It came from the Democratic Party, the Biden campaign and the CIA.
Now, if they come forward and say, Oh, I'm so sorry, I did.
Well, it's like, wait, what did I what did I do?
What am I apologizing for?
I am apologizing for taking totally uncritically just just something vomited out of the CIA and publishing it as Bible.
What is my job as a journalist?
It's to do literally the exact opposite of that, right?
It's to be critical of power centers, of political parties, and definitely not to just automatically parrot what comes from people who are literally professional liars and manipulators, which is spies.
So they're in a really embarrassing position because they have to take accountability for this.
They have to take responsibility for it.
They are admitting that they And nothing's occurred, has it?
at their job, but that they had people voting for president under false pretenses at the behest of the CIA.
It's more than an editor's note.
It's a damning admission.
And nothing's occurred, has it?
Have I missed anything?
Well, no, so of course not.
And even now to this day, you know, I think we've been on the show talking about this together in the past, actually, where to this day, like, they will report on material from the Laptop from Hell without acknowledging their past reporting that the Laptop from Hell is Russian disinformation.
So they'll just say, oh, we have this email.
We verified this email.
Here's what it says.
But it's as if they've just memory hold.
They're reporting from when it actually mattered before people were going to vote that, oh yeah, by the way, this is from the same laptop that shows that the person who you were going to be voting for for president that we were supposed to be reporting on is actually, you know, has the CCP as a patron.
Yeah.
Is there anybody in the establishment under the usual mastheads that That you're impressed with, or you respect, because I look at the guys that, you know, they're leftists, I look at the Barry Weiss's and the Matt Taibbi's, and even those that have a conscience of sorts, they have to jump ship as well!
Yeah, well, that's it.
I mean, there's like a couple names that kind of come to mind.
You know, I like Catherine Herridge.
I think CBS News does her dirty sometimes.
But I think as a journalist, she is straight.
She really tries.
And she really tries to bring newsworthy and true information.
And she's honest.
And she's in legacy media, fine.
Aside from, I can't really think of actually anybody that I can respect in that industry.
I'm not talking about alternative media.
You know, Carrie White counts as, and she's a Democrat, I don't agree with her, I don't think on anything.
But in terms of legacy, Katherine Harrod is kind of the only one that I can think of.
So telling, and of course she was Fox for years.
When she left Fox, I was like, Catherine, what are you doing?
We've been talking to Emma Jo Morris.
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Do we have to record any of these?
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and title for Mike as well.
Can, can, can the can the social media senses be stopped?
Preferences, Jeff?
Kind of wherever you want to go.
Okay.
Can you play me the full Phil Jackson cut 11?
Jackson cut 11.
Do you still watch a lot of basketball?
No, I don't.
Tell me about that.
And did you stop immediately from the time you stopped coaching?
No, I didn't.
I watched some of the game evolve and decided, and they went into the lockout year and they did something that was kind of wanky.
They did a bubble down in Orlando and all the teams that could qualify went down there and stayed down there.
No audience.
And they had things on their back like, you know, Justice and, yeah, I made a little funny thing like, You know, Justice just went to the basket and Equal Opportunity just knocked him down.
And somebody had another name for a guy who has a jersey in the back of a jersey.
He had some other slogan.
So my grandkids thought that was pretty funny to play up those names.
So I couldn't watch that.
And the Lakers won, actually.
They won that year.
Do you feel like it just made little of the game?
Like it made it like a sideshow?
What do you think it was that turned you off?
Well, it was... They even had slogans on the floor.
On the baseline.
Did he actually say wanky?
A little bit wanky?
He did, yes.
I caught that.
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Let's go down the numbers, down the line.
Dan, line one, New Jersey.
Hello?
Hey, what's going on, Dr. Gruca?
I met you in Bucks County at the centrifuge when you were there with Dr. Gregory.
My comment is, Tucker is, I mean, well, first of all, my comment is I want Tucker to get the 8 o'clock hour on Newsmax.
So I can just switch over to Newsmax.
I mean, I watch a little bit.
You should be watching Newsmax already, my friend, but I already, I've been in touch with... I'm sad, I'm sad Spicer left.
Yeah, I already watch it.
We watch... Good.
Good.
I immediately told the President Newsmax, I hope you're getting busy today, so we shall see.
Anything else you'd like to say or share with us, Dan?
Well, no, a lot of other people got a call, too.
I just want to, well, the one thing I'd like to ask you is, from now on, if I see or get you on the phone, can I call you Seabass?
Like Devin Nunes?
What do you think, Jeff?
Shall we allow callers to call me Seabass?
I like when Nunes does it.
And that's not what I'm asking, Jeff.
Pay attention.
Are we allowing callers and listeners to call me CBad?
I like that.
Alright, you have permission, Dan.
Mr. G has given you permission.
Let's go to Diana, line 2, Salt Lake City.
Hi, Sebastian.
I agree.
It's a good day for Mega with Tucker.
And a good day for your dogs, by the sound of it.
Oh gosh, I can't believe that he did that.
Oh my gosh, can I just say, I got news just now, Diana.
After 12 years, I think it is, 11 years.
The MAGA movement has lost Otto.
Otto, the most famous dog in America, Dennis Prager and Sue Prager's dog, has passed on to the Elysian Greenfields.
So, Otto, you will be missed.
You will be missed.
But otherwise, you think it's a good day for MAGA, Diana?
I think it's a good day for MAGA that Tucker left.
That's the first thing I thought when I said, oh thank God, because I haven't watched Fox since the 2020 election.
I can't tell you the last time.
I'll watch clips of Tucker on social media, but I won't watch Fox.
I'm sorry.
I love Martin, Maria Bartiromo, Greg's a great guy, Jesse Waters.
Who else is there?
I tweeted this out, Diana.
How many Patriots are left at Fox?
That's it.
That's the question, right?
I mean, I don't mean the cameraman and the, you know, the boom operators.
I mean the people in front of the camera.
It's just a handful.
Good day for MAGA.
Thank you, Diana.
Let's go to California.
Somewhere in that big state is Klaus.
Line three.
Yeah, rest in peace, great auto.
I was pretty crushed when I heard that name.
So you already knew?
Yeah, I knew.
And I told Dennis that, hey, Prager, you should erect a bronze sculpture of Otto like Grapefriars Bobby and Deborah.
Yes!
Balto in Central Park!
You're right, I've seen that.
Yeah, there should be a bronze statue of Otto.
What a great idea.
What brings you to our show today, Klaus?
Well, um, quickly, in light of what happened to Tucker, yeah, he's gonna be okay.
Yes.
He's gonna make his own thing.
Yes.
Oh, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
Klaus, let me interrupt you right now.
I haven't even asked Eric to make a buffer of it.
This is, if you go on Tucker's website right now, this is what, this is what you see.
Jeff just found this.
You see this massive message pop up.
Text Tucker to 44055 to sign up.
Klaus, he's building something already.
Awesome.
Could you repeat that text line a couple of times throughout the show?
Because I got another thing to text.
I know you got a few seconds, but okay.
The National Association of Broadcasters made an announcement that AM radios Right, we mentioned that last week, so go to the National Association of Broadcasters to protect AM radio.
We discussed the story about them trying to take AM radios out of new cars, especially Ford.
Also, tuckercarlson.com.
So guys, MAGA is doing just fine, but you've got to get engaged.
Let's go to line 4, Judy in Brooklyn!
Hey, how much time do I have?
How are you, Dr. Gorka?
More than usual.
More than usual.
Fire away.
Listen, you are Dr. Gorka, okay?
Allegedly?
This has been alleged?
You know, you are not Seb.
You're not Seba whatever.
Not Seabass?
I'm not Seabass?
No.
That's for a fish.
That's for a fish.
No.
Listen, by the way, talking about Devin Nunes, Devin Nunes said possibly 95% of all media are corrupt, okay?
So that's that.
And while we're on corruption, which I'm not calling about, but I'll stick in, the inspection division of the IRS are equally corrupt.
Trust me, they are.
I believe you.
So that's another thing.
But I'm calling any woman who votes Democrat is a traitor, and I'll tell you why.
I'm calling about the sports bill that was put forth from the House for the Republicans this week in the House.
Remember that one?
Yes.
Yes?
Okay.
So here is my point, okay?
Anyone who's fair-minded and have half a brain and some common sense would agree that women and biological men should not be competing together.
There's no competition.
It's just so... Of course!
Sports should be respected and honored, okay?
So here's my point.
Every single Democrat voted against the Common Sense Bill, in lockstep.
And Hasheem Jeffries said, this is a non-issue.
Oh really, this is a non-issue?
This is a tremendous issue.
This party is the party that embraces perversion, and they're pro-criminal, and they're corrupt, And I can't understand how anyone would vote for Biden or the Democrats and the women.
They should be, I don't know why, they should be on strike, these women.
That's an ancient Greek, that's an idea from an ancient Greek play, the women go on strike.
Just you wait, just you wait, Judy, until you hear what Chuck Schumer says about MAGA Americans and women's rights.
It will blow your mind.
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He puts, I've tried calling and texting Tucker Carlson for comment on his departure.
Like, he's gonna respond to him.
That's too funny.
Poor Sue.
She's crying about Otto.
Hi, what's your name?
Where are you calling from?
What day of the week is May 21st?
21st?
Let's see here.
29th is a Monday.
That's Memorial Day.
So a week prior to that is the 22nd.
So it's a Sunday.
Oh, interesting.
I have an invitation potentially to New York for a conservative event in New York.
Is it with the YRs?
No.
No, it's from a very surprising organization.
Did you check out Boris's restaurant?
I did not.
I told my wife and she said, nope, everything is fully booked.
We're all organized.
It's like every 15 minutes.
It's quite a busy weekend.
Quite a busy weekend.
Oh, play me cut nine quickly. - No.
Nine.
We didn't have anybody killed in the last 18 months.
I spoke to Abdul, the leader.
We had nobody killed.
Everybody understood.
And we were going to get out with dignity and strength.
Instead, I think it was the most embarrassing... Come in with 13.
Come in with 13.
Come in with 13 Schumer, no liner.
Yep.
Make no mistake about it.
The hard right anti-choice MAGA wing in this country will keep working and working and working to take away all women's rights.
But we will fight it and fight it and fight it.
Yeah, because we're the ones who support Leah Thomas, right?
Will Thomas, right Eric?
Yeah, clearly we're the anti-women.
We're the anti-women.
Yeah, let's talk to Tara Reid and the Kopechny family about the war on women.
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It's not Thursday.
I'm confused.
Antoinette, California.
Hey, Dr. G. You'll always be my Dr. G. I can't handle that other name because of what he wants to call you.
Anyway, Dr. G, this is super important.
I'm not a fish, Antoinette.
I'm not a fish.
I know you're not.
I'm confused.
I'm confused.
And I like Chilean, I like Chilean sea bass and that's a bit of a mouthful, Chilean sea bass.
It is good though, the Chilean bass is very good.
So, the reason I'm calling Dr. G, there were a group of us talking till 4 in the morning your time, tomorrow at the Orange County supervisor meeting.
And this is coming up.
We need a lot of people there tomorrow.
For those in California, Orange County, there's two items on the agenda.
Hang on, hang on.
So where do they go and what time?
Let's start with that.
Okay.
400 West Civic Center Drive in Santa Ana, California.
Number two, they go to the administration building on the first floor where the supervisors have the board meetings.
And the time, 930 in the morning if you want to talk, but if you just be there physically, this is going to be item number 42, item number 43, and I'm going to go to item 43 first.
There's a gentleman by the name of Bob Page.
He's the head of the register of voters in Orange County.
What their board is listening about, and we need a lot of people there, number one, we're proposing one-day voting, paper ballots, ID to vote, and that the votes take place, that they count them in the precincts here in Orange County.
Because you know we're fighters here, Dr. G. Oh yes.
Mega fighters.
And then Item number 42 is an interesting one.
You got 20 seconds before the end of the hour.
Gotta be quick.
The federal government wants Orange County to open up an office for the illegal immigrants and give them all these grand benefits for them crossing our border illegally.
Please be there tomorrow, or be square, or at least pray for us that we get the point across.
Alright, one more time, one more time.
The address and the time.
400 West Civic Center Drive, Santa Ana, 930 in the morning.
And talking with you is really the most impressive conversation I've had.
Number one, there's very few people who could sit there and speak the way you do from subject to subject to subject to subject.
If people would let you speak and actually listen to you, while you have the enormous pressure on your shoulders of these grand juries and other things going on, and you still are able to do it.
That is absolutely remarkable.
And as you go through the history of your presidency, and I read these letters in this book, it was a phenomenal presidency.
Phenomenal presidency.
And The reason you don't get the credit that you deserve is because perhaps that's going to be up to history.
Well, well, well, that's Mark Levin, a clip from his hour-long interview with President Trump.
Mr. G, I think Mark's back on the Trump train, don't you?
I don't think he was ever off of the Trump train.
Were there a couple of moments where he said nice things about DeSantis?
Oh, if I had to guess, I would say he is going to support DeSantis over Trump.
However, he is always- Hang on, hang on.
After what he just said, that that was the best conversation I've ever had in my life?
Yes, I still think- What?!
If you listen to him, he's very, very, very, very pro-DeSantis.
He's been this for the last few months.
He almost hints around it.
But hang on, he'd never say about Ron, this is the most amazing conversation I've ever had in my 60 years, right?
Well, but he'll also say that DeSantis would be an excellent president and go on this all the time.
Every time there's this Trump-DeSantis feud, he's always defending DeSantis.
He doesn't rip Trump.
He's not an anti-Trump guy.
And he's always defending Trump, everything that's happened to him.
But I can guarantee you he would support DeSantis over Trump.
Wow, I'm surprised.
I'm surprised you say that.
Even after this?
Even after Ron DeSantis did this in Japan?
This is the weird... Jeff, is this the weirdest thing he's ever done in politics?
It is.
It's a shame for people that aren't watching it right now, so they can't see it.
We've posted the video.
It's just his facial expression and just his response.
This is DeSantis in Japan on his trip right now.
Cut three.
Governor Bolton, you've fallen behind Trump.
Any thoughts on that?
I'm not a candidate, so we'll see if and when that changes.
He does a bobblehead impression.
Ah, I'm not a candidate.
I mean, but Eric, why would you be traveling the nation on a book tour and then going to Japan?
What is he doing?
He just really, really wants to sell that book.
Maybe he has a Japanese audience.
I don't know.
All right.
Well, one person who thinks he's a rock star, and I'm not joking, and man, is this the kiss of death.
It's Karl Rove.
Karl Rove, cut five.
He's got a rock star status right now.
He came to Texas, the largest campaign fundraisers for the Republican Party in Houston and in Dallas in history, raising over a million dollars each.
Biggest fundraiser in the history of the New Hampshire Republican Party this past week.
And better to make mistakes and start correcting those mistakes earlier rather than later.
Wouldn't you want, if you were running as a Republican, Jeff, wouldn't you want Karl Rove not to endorse you?
Exactly, and it looks how out of touch it is.
It's this 2004 style of campaigning.
Going around breaking fundraising records in counties, getting all these endorsements from low-level politicians, meeting with delegates.
Things that don't win anymore.
Well, not only that...
If you want to be the people's voice, you don't brag about how much money you're raising.
Exactly, at big fundraisers.
Fundraising record breakers.
Who cares?
Yeah, and if you don't want to be establishment, you shouldn't talk about it, even if it's true!
But that's who Karl Rove is.
He is utterly de-established.
And we'll go to your calls in a second, but I want to read to you the latest.
This is from Media Eye, Joe Paolo.
According to a new poll out Sunday from NBC News, yes, NBC News, not Rasmussen, not Breitbart, 70% of Americans do not want Biden to run for a second term.
Only 26% are willing to support him.
And what's happening tomorrow, Eric?
Allegedly, what is happening tomorrow?
Allegedly, the current incumbent of the White House is going to announce his re-election bid, question mark.
As 70% of people don't want him to run.
How much of a big deal, Eric, do you think it is that we have this person who's on Fox right now, Robert Kennedy Jr., who allegedly has 14% of the support already in the Democrats?
Is that a spoiler?
Potentially.
And I think it is due entirely to name recognition.
He is, of course, the son of Robert F. Kennedy.
That alone should get him a little more bump than most other also-ran Democrats would get.
But does it matter?
It depends.
I mean, I think it all comes down to if they actually let these people on a debate stage with Biden, which they never will let that happen.
But if that were to happen, it could be a game changer.
They won't let that happen.
Let's go to your calls.
Line one waiting patiently in Philly.
Nick, happy Monday.
Hello, doctor.
How are you?
Good.
I just had one comment.
A new name for Fox News.
It should be called Fox Light.
Fox, oh my gosh, you're a genius.
You just reminded me of something.
Thank you, Nick.
This is a buddy of mine, Joel Fisher, just tweeted this.
And he has a rather good Twitter game.
Very simple, two sentence.
Oh, there it is.
Everybody can see it.
Bud Light, nobody can destroy a company as quickly as we can.
Fox News, hold my beer.
You know what would have been better, Eric, if it said, hold my light beer.
Right?
Hold my bud light.
Hold my bud light.
Alright, nice.
Mike, California, line 2.
Hi, Dr. G. I hope you had a good weekend.
Yeah, very busy.
Very busy, thank you.
What's your question?
What's your comment?
First off, may I offer this?
Dr. Gorka, you're a gargantuan of righteous, kinetic attitude, and I'm glad you're on our side.
I appreciate that.
It's not always kinetic, but I appreciate that.
That's very kind.
Two quick questions.
I need your advice.
Number one, do you think this will change Tucker's relationship with Kevin McCarthy and the exposure of the January 6th films?
And two, What is up with Susan Rice stepping down?
Oh my gosh, that's the other... This Monday is insane.
Thank you, Mike, for reminding me.
Look, I actually tweeted this out about 20 minutes ago.
I said, now that you're free of the Murdochs... Let me just, so I get it right.
Tucker is now free of the Murdochs and Paul Ryan.
America wants all the January 6 footage.
Will you release it, Tucker Carlson?
I've already got 33,000 engagements on that, so it looks like people are really, really psyched.
Look, Mike, Allegedly, he's taken his producer with him.
So Tucker's leaving Fox with his production team.
So he's got to have that footage.
God willing, he's not going to put it behind a paywall, but he's going to release it.
So we'll see.
Give him a couple of days to settle down.
Let the dust settle.
But hopefully he will do the right thing.
Did you have another question?
Yeah, what do you think is the story with Susan Rice?
Oh, Susan Rice!
Yeah, I think she can't support him anymore, so the most powerful... Inside the White House there are two positions that are really the apex of power, and they're unusual because neither of them is Senate-confirmed.
There's the National Security Advisor, And there's the chairman of the Domestic Policy Council.
The real power behind the throne when it comes to what's happening domestically has been Ambassador Susan Rice.
And the big news today is that she's leaving the administration.
So I guess, Mike, she's had it with working for a senile old man.
And she realizes that the ship is sinking and she has to run.
Great questions.
Thank you, Mike.
Stay on the line.
Let's give Mike a signed copy of Defeating Jihad.
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Brian, Georgia, line three.
Hey, you dovetailed into what I was going to say.
I also have a T-shirt idea.
Yeah, go ahead.
When they said that the majority of people didn't want Biden to run because of his age...
What about his fecklessness and his communist leanings?
What about his senility, Brian?
His senility, yes.
Well, that could go with age.
But I mean, even when he was a young man, he was an idiot.
Yeah, that's true.
Maybe they're just being polite.
What's your t-shirt idea?
Okay, you got a picture of Hunter and Joe Biden.
Above the picture, it says, I was wrong.
And below the picture, it says there is such a thing as white Privilege.
Oh, that's good.
I like that.
I like that.
Thank you, Brian.
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to a speech in your life.
Remember Trump was that...
It's a video statement he's releasing tomorrow.
In Orlando, it was like 20,000 people.
Remember we went to it?
I know, I just met somebody this weekend who was at that event with us.
Oh, really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I spoke to Abdul, the leader.
We had nobody killed.
Everybody understood.
And we were going to get out with dignity and strength.
Instead, I think it was the most embarrassing period, the way we withdrew.
Not the fact that we withdrew, the way we withdrew from Afghanistan.
And I think Putin actually saw that, and he probably got a little more ambition, frankly.
Yep.
Putin saw our surrender under Biden in Afghanistan and he got a little bit more ambition.
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But geopolitics, the wheels of geopolitics do not stop turning.
And let's consult with one of the best, the man who teaches us what we need to know about matters in Asia, especially in Beijing.
He is the author of The Great U.S.-China Tech War.
You can follow him at Gordon G. Chang.
Gordon, welcome back to America First.
Thank you so much, Seb.
I want you to explain for us this story that's been boiling for years now, that kind of surfaced when it comes to the secret police stations in America.
But before we get to that, the news on all the TV screens is the thousands of Americans trapped in Sudan, the fourth embassy this administration is having to desert and shut down.
This is noticed.
By our enemies, is it not?
And there are interconnected aspects of whatever's happening in Sudan, in Brazil, in Saudi Arabia.
Can you put this into a broader context for us?
Seb, during our lifetimes, and maybe in the history of our Republic, we have never seen such a rapid collapse of America standing in the world.
And this is really stunning when we're talking about Saudi Arabia, or Brazil, or France, and now Sudan.
Sudan is complicated, but really what you've got is a civil war which has started.
And we've got to remember that it is Russia's Wagner Group, the mercenaries that have been fueling this war.
And the question that everyone's got to ask is, look, Putin doesn't have the money to cause problems in Sudan.
So who's paying the Wagner Group?
Who's supplying them with weapons?
And I bet you it's going to be China, is the answer to that.
So really what this is, is not just America evacuating an embassy.
This is the collapse and basically Russia and China seizing another country.
And by the way, if you look at the map, Sudan borders the Red Sea.
That means that if Russia and China control Sudan, which is a real possibility, They can then block traffic through the Suez Canal.
Yeah.
Massively important.
Gordon, tell us about what There are many conventional wisdoms about the last 15 months, how Putin messed up, he should have been far more successful in Ukraine, therefore Beijing is thinking twice about its maneuvers in the region.
Does Beijing really pause for thought because of what Moscow does, or does it not see itself as the premier actor in the world?
Well, certainly China sees itself as the premier actor.
And we know that because on March 22, when Xi Jinping was bidding farewell to Vladimir Putin in Moscow, after their 40th in-person chat, Xi Jinping said, quote, change is coming that hasn't happened in 100 years.
And we are driving this change together.
Now, the translation of that is that China is the boss of the world and the US is no longer a factor.
And Xi Jinping has been acting like that.
So, for instance, that that spy balloon that transversed our country.
I mean, that shows utter disrespect for the United States and for President Biden.
So we know what the Chinese are saying.
We know what they're thinking.
They're making very fast moves.
They're about to grab another country out from under Biden.
And the question is, where is the president of the United States?
I just need to make sure I heard you correctly.
Did you just say the 40th?
Visit between Xi and Putin?
Yes, the 40th visit between the two of them as leaders.
Incredible.
It shows you the closeness of it.
Xi Jinping has met Biden in person as president once.
That was last November.
Stunning.
The website is Gordon Chang.
The Twitter is GordonGChang.
Gordon, we've got a couple of minutes left.
Can you unravel this seemingly absurd, surreal story that there are Chinese secret police stations on US soil?
A gross violation of our sovereignty.
And the American people should be asking, why would the Chinese feel that they could open up a formal police station in violation of all their treaty obligations to the U.S., the Vienna Convention on Diplomacy?
And the reason is that for decades, American presidents have allowed Chinese consular officials and Ministry of State security agents to engage in acts that not only violate our sovereignty, many of them were just criminal.
And when we caught them, we let them go.
So I think the Chinese felt that they might as well just open up a police station.
Now, it's not just the one in New York that closed a couple months ago.
It is also six more according to reporting from the New York Post and Safeguard Defenders, which is the Spanish based NGO.
And the issue the American people need to ask is, Why didn't we hear about these additional police stations from the FBI and from the President of the United States?
And what should happen now with regards to these police stations, Gordon?
We should obviously close them.
We should imprison or expel the personnel involved in this.
We should confiscate the properties because these properties have been used in a crime.
And we should be closing China's consulates in the U.S.
because we have to impose some costs.
And, unfortunately, the Biden administration is not willing to impose costs on them.
Yeah.
The website is Gordon Chang, the Twitter is GordonGChang, and the book is The Great US-China Tech War.
Thank you, Gordon.
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- The Kirby thing must have been yesterday, right?
It was Don Lemon.
No, it was this morning.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Wow.
That's beautiful.
Wow, wow, wow.
It had to be because that stuff didn't come out until like Saturday night that they were in evacuation.
Yeah, I guess.
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Kill the mics, Alex.
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He's a great guy.
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Listen to him.
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It does not feel like it, but it is.
And I'm having callers having to remind me about big stories like Ambassador Rice leaving the White House.
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Let's go to Steve in Atlanta.
Steve, welcome to America First.
Hey, do you think Tucker still has Possession of the Jan 6 videos.
Absolutely.
Let's all pray he shows them.
chosen.
Oh, absolutely.
Well, why would it be conditional?
I mean, Kevin McCarthy gave them to him.
I don't think it was a conditional deposit of those records.
And we'll see in the next few days.
I'm sure a lot of people are asked that question, just like I did on Twitter about two hours ago.
And I'm sure Tucker will respond.
If he doesn't respond, Steve, I think we know the answer.
Let's go to Randy in Knoxville, line two.
Hey, Dr. Gorka, I have a list of some other people I'd like to see taken off of the news media so we're not tortured by them.
Well, you don't have to take them off, you just don't have to switch them on, but tell me the names.
Number one would be Joe and Mika, because they cheated on each other's spouses in the workplace and their home records, much less the stuff that they call people like, you know, me and you.
Yeah, not nice people.
And don't forget, of course, the intern that somehow died in his office when he was a congressman as well.
Oh, that's right.
I remember that.
They'd have to get rid of all of those people from The View.
Who else?
You know, I've been doubling up on my relief factor, which by the way, thank you for sending me a package.
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But I think it's actually relieving irritation when I listen to Hugh Hewitt first thing in the morning.
Oh, what has he done now?
Tell me what my colleague has done.
Oh, you know, he's just, God love him.
He's a nice guy and all, Dr. Gorka, but I mean, he is Salem News' in-house swamp creature.
He's just such an establishment guy.
He loves Chris Christie.
You know, he was talking about how he likes Mitt Mitt Romney.
It's just, you know, he's an establishment guy and hey, it's a free country, it's America, he can be that way, but he beats you over the head with it.
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Jeff, what do you think of Randy's call?
Should we have Hugh on to debate his love of establishment figures like Romney and Christie?
It's always good to get some information from the other side, why they like him.
Oh, good.
OK, let's do that.
Thank you, Randy.
Let me give you some good news.
Not as effective as Relief Factor, but here's some from Matt Boyle at Breitbart NBC poll.
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That should make you feel better as well.
Let's go to Jerry, New Jersey, line four.
Well, I wanted to say, it seems like Fox, at least, uh, you know, I used to be a regular watcher, but I've almost a hundred, I mean, I was 80% at Newsfax.
Now I'm a hundred percent because they've been moving so far left.
I noticed about six months ago, they had about four Democrats.
And when they had a rare Republican, he was nothing more than a Rhino Republican name only.
Yes.
That's point one point two.
I wanted to make is I'm glad the, uh, I'm glad Jordan and the other guy, Comer, are getting into this, and it looks like finally we may get some justice, and it's long past due.
I don't think we'll get justice because the committees don't have the power to indict people, but at least we'll get more information, Jerry.
Yeah, and another thing I would do, though we're on a different subject, I would basically foreclose on every single thing the Chinese own in our country and basically delist every damn one of their stocks and send them packing.
Yeah, the idea that we have entities under the control of the CCP, the Communist Party of China, that are owning, for example, land in America, Or companies that we know have stolen national security secrets that are allowed to function in this state.
Or that we have Chinese nationals, this isn't classified, you can look it up, who are working today in some of the most sensitive research facilities in America.
That's not right.
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You being the king, she being the queen.
She would visit you at Mar-a-Lago often.
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Could you imagine if in 2024 President Trump's running mate had been Oprah or would be Oprah?
Wow.
The thing that changes, I ran for office.
She actually says in one of her letters, I think somewhat kiddingly, but we should run together what a team would be.
Could you imagine if in 2024, President Trump's running mate had been Oprah or would be Oprah?
Wow.
Let's President Trump talk to Mark Levin about his book, where he shares some of his correspondence that he's received with a lot of people who loved him.
Who, well, like Oprah Winfrey said, you're my king to my queen, who I guess only liked him as long as he was a Democrat.
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Let's go to Michael somewhere in California.
Hello.
Yes, you're up.
I'm sorry.
Give me off the speaker here.
First of all, constructive criticism.
Yes.
More from you, sir.
And I respect the hell out of you.
But to suggest that Susan Rice is stepping away from Biden because of his decisions, he makes no decisions.
You and I both know that.
He is run by Obama's people.
I don't think I use the phrase his decisions.
She's stepping away from him because he's disastrous in terms of running for a second term, but carry on.
Okay, but it's her decisions and the minions of... Yeah, I actually said that she's the force behind the curtain.
That's what I said, which is the opposite of his decisions.
All right, second of all, how come we cannot subpoena Hunter And get him before the committee.
This has gone on way too long.
Yeah.
No, I agree.
I agree.
There should be absolutely no reason why anyone that is deemed to be corrupt, deemed to be threatening the national security of America, shouldn't be subpoenaed.
So, Michael, here's the challenge.
Congressman Comer.
Chairman Jordan.
What are you going to do?
Are you going to subpoena the key individual in all of this?
Because, as you said, Michael, it's not Joe who's making the decisions.
It's not Joe in the boardroom at Burisma or with the National Bank of Communist China.
It's Hunter.
It's Hunter and, you know, the likes of Tony Bobulinski who knows.
So, Michael, I think you've put the challenge out there and the question is a good one.
Now, look, Emma-Jo Morris, what, an hour ago said on this show Much, much bigger is coming down the pike when it comes to the laptop from hell.
And that's based upon her discussions on Capitol Hill.
We'll see if she's correct or whether they were just blowing smoke at her on Capitol Hill.
But OK, guys, if you're serious, Freedom Caucus, if you're serious, Jim and James, subpoena Hunter Biden.
Good job.
Yeah, thank you, Michael.
Stay on the line.
Let's give Michael a signed copy of Defeating Jihad.
All right, I'm going to do something a little bit different now, because I don't do sports.
I don't understand sports.
I can talk about rugby and stuff like that, but allegedly there's somebody called Phil Jackson, and my producer, I think he knows who he is, and he might think this is important.
So, Jeff, are you ready to tee this up?
Yeah, this is Phil Jackson.
He's probably the most popular famous coach in NBA history.
Right, but it's not exactly a rip-roaringly exciting cut, but it's important... He's a little older now, he always talks slow anyway.
Okay, but it's important what he says, right?
Exactly.
Alright, let's listen to this.
This is Phil Jackson from NBA Coach who, well, he's got an opinion about the NBA.
Cut 11!
Do you still watch a lot of basketball?
No, I don't.
Tell me about that.
And did you stop immediately from the time you stopped coaching?
No, I didn't.
I watched some of the game evolve and decided, and they went into the lockout year and they did something that was kind of wanky.
They did a bubble down in Orlando and all the teams that could qualify went down there and stayed down there.
No audience.
And they had things on their back like, you know, justice and yeah, I made a little funny thing like, You know, Justice just went to the basket and Equal Opportunity just knocked him down.
And somebody had another name for a guy who has a jersey in the back of a jersey.
He had some other slogan.
So my grandkids thought that was pretty funny to play up those names.
So I couldn't watch that.
And the Lakers won, actually.
They won that year.
Do you feel like it just made little of the game, like a side show?
What do you think it was that turned you off?
They even had slogans on the floor, on the baseline.
It was catering.
It was trying to cater to an audience or trying to bring a certain audience in to play.
And they didn't know it was turning other people off, you know?
People want to see sports as non-political.
I get the feeling, Jeff, we hear these like every couple of months.
Somebody big will say this.
Does it make a difference?
I think it does.
First of all, you know the guy too.
I always thought he was like a weirdo kind of hippie guy.
His nickname is the Zen Master.
He's all into meditation and this type of stuff.
So some guy like this is being turned off by it.
What do you think the average person is thinking now?
Right.
But are they going to vote with their feet and, you know, cancel their subscriptions or not go to the games?
That's the question, right?
Yeah, but every person that does this helps.
Yeah, that's true.
Alright, thank you for broadening my horizons.
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Do you think media organizations or social media platforms should be accountable for the role for being platforms for incitement?
I believe that when it comes to broadcast television, like Fox News, these are subject to To federal law, federal regulation, in terms of what's allowed on air and what isn't.
And when you look at what Tucker Carlson and some of these other folks on Fox do, it is very, very clearly incitement of violence.
Very clearly incitement of violence.
And that is the line that I think we have to be willing to contend with.
That is such, if you're not watching us, you see Jen Psaki sitting on a chair in front of Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez and it's the beautiful summation of why the media is not the media.
You've got a Democrat member of Congress being asked questions by who?
The former White House press secretary.
That's as if I was pretending to be a journalist.
I'm not a journalist and how dare you?
How dare anyone ever call me a journalist?
I'm a conservative, former Trump official, who is a radio talk show host and TV show host.
I don't do journalism.
I do commentary.
But that's supposed to be some kind of journalistic question.
And by the way, she said four times, I bet she thinks she got Tucker Carlson fired with that interview.
That Tucker Carlson incited to violence.
Eric, I know you like Tucker Carlson.
Can you think of one instance?
One instance where, at a private event, at a conference, at a speech like Heritage or TV, where Tucker Carlson incited anyone to violence?
Well, again, in their worldview, criticism is violence.
You know, words are violence.
Words are violence.
If you dare criticize, you know, Fauci or criticize anybody that, you know, by creating a little caricature of Fauci as a saint, You're clearly calling for people to kill him in their mindset.
It's shocking.
It's absolutely shocking.
I get the feeling more and more that these people are actually given talking points.
This incitement to violence, drag, the left have been going on.
It's like the threat analysis of the FBI, that now you have to surveil and work your way into Catholic communities, especially those that listen to the Latin mass.
BLM and Antifa actually do rights.
Transgender mass killers, four of them in recent years.
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And then toasted with an extra little slice of cheese added on top.
I mean, there's like triple layers of cheese.
I mean, we're showing the opening scenes here.
I mean, on the beach.
I mean, it is just so cheesy.
With Elizabeth Shue rolling the ball over there.
Dude, it is cheese on cheese.
It is grand fromage.
Yeah, except, except, I don't think what you really realize about this is that at the time, I don't think it would have been perceived that way.
No.
I think part of the reason that it's so cheesy today, we look at it, we think it's so ridiculous today, is because this movie set a standard that would be then copied and perfected over the years.
Like today, you would never see a film which is just this kind of underdog story.
And that's it.
You would see this as a sub story.
You would see this as a secondary character, something like this.
There would be a primary story.
And then the secondary story would be this guy getting bullied at the school.
And he's got to face his bullies by the end of the film.
That would be a secondary story or even a tertiary story.
And the reason you don't see that as the primary story much anymore is because this movie did it so well.
That it was then repeated and copied a thousand times since then.
And it's become cliché.
It's become cheesy.
But I think at the time, I don't think it was considered cheesy.
I think it was just a very, very well produced picture.
And is it exclusively a kids movie?
Oh no, I don't think so.
Really?
No, I don't think so.
I was listing all the movies from 1984 that were about kids, about high school kids.
Obviously, Karate Kid was about high school kids.
Red Dawn, Gremlins, Nightmare on Elm Street, Sixteen Candles, Footloose, The Neverending Story, The Last Starfighter.
They had this thing about high school age kids, junior high age kids, that age, Uh, in movies.
In 1984, it was just... It was just, uh, saturated with these kinds of films.
And I think that there is something about that time of life...
That whether you're an adult or you're a child or you're at that age already, probably being a high school student is the only age that you would be bored with a movie about high school students, right?
If you're a kid, you look up to that age and you say, oh, I kind of can't wait until I'm in high school and I can be cool like these cool kids in high school.
And if you're an adult, you look back fondly and you say, I remember those days being in high school.
So I think every age could enjoy a film set in a high school setting.
And given that there are so, or there were so many movies with an underdog theme or an under theme, why was this one, I mean this one made so much money domestically, internationally, why do you think this one resonated?
I think there was something at the time, but I've thought about this actually quite a bit in this most recent viewing.
Part of it is the nature of what was at stake for Daniel San.
It's really a low-stakes movie when you think about it, because he's a high school student getting bullied.
What's he fighting for?
His integrity?
Who cares?
But what they've done is they brought in Elizabeth Shue, right?
Elizabeth Shue is this supposed to be a high school student.
She looks like she's 20.
She looks like she's, you know, like 10 years older than him.
Do you know the respective ages of Shue and Ralph Macchio?
I think she's younger than he is, isn't she?
So guess how old he was.
I mean, in this movie, he looks like he could be like, you know, 16.
Do you know how old he was in this movie?
If you told me he was 14, I'd believe you.
Watching that clip there.
He's 23.
Yeah, it's wild.
She, who looks like, you know, she's in college, she was 21!
And here's the amazing thing about that, right?
Okay, so that's crazy to think about if you watch the film and you think it, but it was kind of brilliant casting, despite their ages, because The whole time, you think, there's no way that this chick is gonna do this.
I mean, this is the thing!
Come on, is it brilliant casting?
She is so above his league.
Come on.
Yeah, out of his league.
Well, that's why.
And they do make note of that.
Her friends are like, I don't know what she sees in that guy, right?
Everybody's like that.
The parents, everybody's like that.
So they do recognize that in the film, that this is weird, right?
Right.
But, If you think about it, if you're an ordinary guy, because he's an average Joe at best, right?
He's an average guy, maybe leaning a little toward dorky or, you know, but she likes him for whatever reason she likes him.
And this is kind of the average guy's dream that a girl that's way out of his league will fall for him.
So this guy's got this one in a million shot at being with this girl.
And he realizes it and throughout the film, he has, he does not have the confidence to stick with her.
He's like, he's almost like at the point of breaking up with her because he's just, he recognizes that she's way out of his league.
Well, he does when he thinks he's been betrayed, when he thinks that she's back with Johnny, right?
Yeah, he can't contemplate the reality that exists here.
So winning this tournament isn't really about ending the bullying, although it is about that, obviously.
But it's really about him gaining the confidence and the recognition by his peers to feel that it is acceptable for him to date this girl that's way out of his league.
And every guy's kind of dealt with this where he needs to man up and he needs to be the guy that he needs to be for his wife or his girlfriend or whoever it is.
And in this particular case, in order to make himself have the confidence to be able to be with this girl that he is like the girl of his dreams, he's got to win this tournament.
So it raises the stakes to that level.
But also, it's just a very human movie.
You know, it just showcases humanity really well.
No, utterly.
You know, when he gets beaten up, you know, you're feeling the punches.
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All right, let's do a little bit of grape action.
Walk on the road.
Walk right side, safe.
Walk left side, safe.
Walk middle, sooner or later, get squished, just like grape.
Here, karate, same thing.
Either you karate do, yes, or karate do, no.
You karate do, guess so.
Just like grape.
Understand?
Yeah, I understand.
Just like Greep.
Let's talk about these two actors.
The lead and the supporting actor.
Pat Morita actually got an Academy Award nomination for this movie.
A guy who'd been known... Oh, I didn't... Did I...?
All phony.
His accent is phony.
But he does such a great job.
I mean, it's really masterful.
And, like I said, they picked the best guy for Daniel really because he does have that touch of awkwardness that I think makes him very relatable.
These days, they want to cast you as either, like, Asperger's level nerdy or they want to cast, you know, the hero as like, you know, certainly better than anyone else ever in the history of the world.
And it's probably going to be a black lesbian, but she's going to be amazing.
Some kind of genius, you know, but but back in the 80s, they realized, you know, what the best person to play the lead in most movies is the average guy.
Let's bring in somebody who's average.
She's got a little bit of problems.
But here was the magic about this that I don't think really people recognized at the time, but looking back, I think people recognize a little bit more.
I certainly did watching this time.
This is actually a father and son movie.
Of course.
This is a movie, because you think of it as like Obi-Wan Kenobi or even Yoda, right?
There's obviously hints of that.
When I was a kid, that's kind of how I viewed it.
But looking back, I realize Daniel did not have a father.
Yeah, you're watching, you're watching the, what is it, five minute opening as they leave New Jersey that you have a really high aerial shot of this crummy part of New Jersey and you can't even see who's in the car.
You can hear them talking about the trip and it's going to be great and then they drop, you know, beautiful scenes of America driving across the desert And then, you know, they get out in California and they want to see the swimming pool and she's babbling on about the palm trees.
And then you realize nobody else gets out of the car.
There's no siblings.
There's no father.
So where's the father figure?
Yeah, yeah.
And it's funny because you wouldn't see a film like this today because it's become so polarized between Republicans and Democrats.
Democrats will say, You know, it's the best thing in the world to be a single mother.
It's the best thing in the world to raise your kid without a father.
And Republicans say, no, look at the statistics.
You grow up without a father, you end up messed up.
And this is a perfect father figure for Daniel because he is a man who lost his wife and son.
Right.
So he is a man who needs a son.
And Daniel's a son who needs a father.
And they come together and It works out absolutely beautifully, and they really picked the right actors for this, and it does feel like they really care about themselves.
They care about themselves.
They care about each other.
When Ralph is angry, like that scene where he gets beat up for the third time, pushed off the edge of the track, falls down with his bicycle, and he's throwing his bike into the dumpster.
That kid's, I mean, you think that, you know, he's had it, he's never gonna fit in.
And then Merida, I mean, this is a guy, we've got the black and white photographs from Happy Days, another show that I used to watch as a kid in England.
This is a guy who's known for stand-up comedy and comedy shows.
I mean, I think it's season five of Happy Days.
He buys the Happy Days diner, there he is with Richie.
And Ralph Cunningham, there he is with the Fonz.
And this is a guy who, They didn't even want to hire because associated with... He was... He had a part in Sanford and Sons, okay?
And then he comes in... Have you seen interviews with him before he died?
Have you seen interviews with Maria?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's like this guy was an actor because it's nothing like Miyagi.
I mean, except for one thing.
He had serious issues with alcohol and he, you know, he died with, you know, complications of, you know, issues to do with alcohol.
But this... And it's such an understated performance.
Very often, he's not even looking.
I know for actors, allegedly, you want to act off somebody else.
It's the reaction to your fellow actor.
Most of the time, when he's with Daniel, he doesn't even look Daniel in the face.
He, like, looks at his bonsai, looks at whatever he's fixing, and he's just understated with his accent.
I mean, he deserved to get that Oscar that he was nominated for.
Yeah, I think you're right.
I mean, I've mentioned this on the show before.
This is a technique of acting that I often talk to my fellow actors who are struggling.
I'm like, you know, don't look too much at your fellow actor.
You can in an intense scene, but if it's a casual scene, people don't typically just stare at each other the whole time they're talking.
You know, you're like looking at something else and you'll glance over at your friend or something like that.
Or if you are saying something important or having a conversation in which you have to maintain eye contact, Occasionally you want to look away.
Very rarely do people just stare at you all the time.
They'll say, you know, to answer a question, they'll hear the question, they'll look away for a second, and then they'll answer, because they'll give a thoughtful answer, right?
Because they have to look away for a second to think.
And so these little techniques are very helpful for people, because there's so many actors that are just terrible.
This film has very few of those actors.
This film is full of absolutely fantastic actors, one of whom is a friend of mine.
I actually became very good friends with one of the Cobra Kai over the years.
No way!
Which one?
Was it Buddy Bag?
Who was it?
No, I never met that guy.
His name's Tony Odell.
He's the Cobra Kai you see the least on screen and has no lines, and he often jokes about that.
And he's actually really good buddies with one of the other Cobra Kai's whose name I can't remember.
But they go on vacations together still to this day, and they're still good friends.
friends and everything like that.
Johnny, the guy who played Johnny, says they were a very, very tight outfit.
I got just one question for Chris.
Have you ever caught a fly with a chopstick?
For me, this was a seminal scene.
Of course, it's completely made up.
But, you know, millions of people were trying to catch flies with chopsticks.
Let's play this very short clip.
Man who catch fly with chopsticks accomplish anything.
You ever catch one?
Thank you.
Not yet.
Could I try?
If we see Hey hey hey Hey, Mr. Miyagi, look!
Look.
You begin a lock.
Look.
You beginner luck.
Fess up, Chris, did you ever try that?
I never, I don't think I ever tried to catch a fly with chopsticks, no, but I, you know, this is such a perfect example of why this film is so good, is these little moments of humanity.
Like, you know that this happened, this is such a father and son moment, or a teacher and student moment, where, you know, genuinely the adult would be like, Well, hell.
You know, like, you know, genuinely the adult would be irritated that the child, the student, was able to do it better than they were.
Uh, and it's fantastic.
This guy's above it all.
He's almost this sort of, like, exotic, bizarrely, almost mystical character.
And then Daniel-san can do this thing that he can't.
He's like, This is bullcrap.
It's perfect.
It's realistic.
It's real.
And there's so many scenes like that in this film.
It's real, but it's also got that touch of fun.
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All right, let's play that seminal part.
It is the definitive moment apart from the end of the tournament.
It's how you wax a car Miyagi style.
Wax on, right hand.
Wax off, left hand.
Wax on, wax off.
Breathe in through nose, out the mouth.
Wax on.
Wax off.
Don't forget to breathe.
Very important.
Wax on.
Wax off.
It's Sam and Ol, but there's only one problem with that, Chris.
Nobody waxes their car like that.
Or paints their fence.
Or paints their fence.
No, no, of course it's nonsense, and I don't think that this would even be an effective way to teach karate.
Hey!
Don't destroy the whole movie!
But listen, listen.
This whole concept and the reveal as what he was actually teaching him the entire time.
These were all lessons in how to do these karate moves.
This was part of the reason why this was such a big film.
That reveal was so profound, people were blown away.
And they believed it!
Oh, and I think a lot of people did believe.
A lot of people joined karate because of this movie.
It's a big movement in America.
But, you know, my mother... This is one of the few films I was permitted to watch.
I watched a lot of films I was not permitted to watch when I was a kid.
This is one of the ones I was actually allowed to watch.
And part of the reason is because my mom, I think she read some articles.
She was very wary of anti-Christian stuff in movies when I was a kid.
But this film, somebody had written an article where they perceived these lessons by Miyagi as something like the Christian journey.
Oftentimes, tragedy strikes us, or we're going through some kind of a trial or a difficult time in life, and we don't know why.
And only later on do we realize that this moment has actually totally prepared us for something else that we needed to do in our lives.
And so Mr. Miyagi's lessons, in my mom's mind, were sort of like God teaching us, Christians or religious people, you know, how to I like that.
deal with certain things or how to be a better person and so she really appreciated that metaphor and so she really liked Karate Kid I don't think the writers had anything like that intended no but you can look at it it you can look at it that way I think yeah let's uh I like that I'm not surprised because of course you often perceive that things um prepared you for a moment in time that you didn't realize or you didn't think were preparing you for anything specifically let's do the reveal because it is you know a core to the popularity of this movie
after all the chores he's getting angry he says you're using me like a slave and then Mr. Miyagi reveals the truth show me in the house say say Lock wrist.
Side, side.
Side, side.
Show me wax on, wax off.
That's!
That's!
That's when all the kids said, hey, that's cool.
I want to do that.
Right, Chris?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because it's like, it's absurd on a couple of levels.
One, I don't think that this would actually be effective.
But two, he doesn't just, OK, you can block this if you do this move.
You can block this if you do this move.
He goes very quickly into all kinds of different angles and punches and kicks.
And he blocks everything perfectly.
And it's like, holy smokes, what a genius lesson, you know?
I think, correct me if I'm wrong because you are in the industry, I think that is what is called movie magic.
Yeah, yeah.
No, it's very fakey if you really want to break it down.
But if you watch it in the movie theater in the 1980s for the first time, you're not thinking too much about it and you just love it.
That moment was huge.
And like I said, because this stuff has been imitated so many times, we probably look at it today as a little bit cheesy.
But you know what?
Such care was taken in the details of making this film that I think you can dismiss all the cheese and you can still enjoy the film, I think.
And I think it's like so many of the films that we've We've looked at here at Making Movies Great Again it's like Beverly Hills Cop that is the first cop movie where the cops aren't doer and you know super serious or you know Dirty Harry's they're actually fun they're engaging there's a little bit of Laurel and Hardy to it this is the first movie where it's not Bruce Lee
you know cutting people up with his his hands it's it's that father and son journey it's that boy coming of age with martial arts thrown in i don't think is there anything prior to this that came even close to being successful in the genre didn't this create a genre Oh yeah, I think so.
And you know what?
I think that people kind of tired of this after a while.
The average guy doing something kind of extraordinary.
Like I said, it then became the nerdy guy doing something extraordinary.
Or they went back to like the cool thing, Rambo type or something like that.
Right, right, right.
Which also has its place and I think is fantastic.
But both of those, the nerdy guy doing something great, also a fantastic way to do things.
But this in particular, this sort of average guy, you know, part of it, I think maybe this is kind of a weird connection, but I think like just thinking about this now, part of this has to do with like the straight white male as like the enemy of the people, right?
Like the left has decided the straight white male is pure evil.
And for whatever it is, 20, 30 years, the straight white male has been sort of the standard everyman.
In movies, sort of average guy, and so with the demonization of the straight white male may have come the demonization of the average guy.
Well, look at the remake, what happened to ethnicities in the remake of this movie, right?
I think you nailed it.
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All right, what do we have left, Eric, in terms of sound?
Uh, the Miyagi family.
Oh, the Miyagi family.
Okay, come in with that.
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So I did a bit of a break.
I did a bit of research as I do for all of our movies, Chris, and there are those who say this scene is the most important scene, not in terms of fun, but in terms of the depth of the story.
that Daniel comes to his teacher Miyagi's home, finds him drunk, reminiscing over his dead wife who died in an internment camp, the Manzanar internment camp where the Japanese were held under a Democrat administration.
Just history there.
Sorry, guys.
And finds his Congressional Medal of Honor in a box.
He goes to bed drunk.
He helps get him to bed drunk.
And then he walks out of the room and then remembers to turn around and show respect.
And as you do on the tatami, on the dojo floor as you're about to go into combat, he salutes by bowing to his sensei, to his master.
What do you think of that assessment that this is the emotional center of the movie?
Not the fight scenes, not the being beaten up, not the, you know, Elizabeth's shoe scenes, but this part.
Yeah, I mean, as a kid I probably wouldn't have paid much attention to this at all.
But if you, in hindsight, looking at this, it is the heart of the movie.
And even if you're not paying attention to it, you do recognize that there is this love that this boy and this man have.
And it's like, it's very much a father and son connection.
And this solidifies, this moment solidifies that.
Because the moment you realize he lost his son, you know, He's sort of his adopted boy at this point, right?
And so, you know, that love between a son and a father is so critical in society and life.
And this film pays respect to that.
And I absolutely love that.
There's a lot about this film, like you said, that's cheesy, and also very dated, very 80s.
You know, it's something that gives me a lot of nostalgia to watch.
But this scene and many of the scenes like this are really timeless.
Timeless.
And anybody can watch it.
Appreciate it, I think.
Let's talk about some of the other performances.
We've got Johnny, the evil, evil member of the Cobra Kai.
We've got his sensei, Martin Cove.
Martin Cove, who I actually like.
I mean, I used to watch Cagney and Lacey religiously.
He was Detective Izbecki, one of the funny, funny guys out of Cagney and Lacey.
Of course, we've got his photograph.
He's come back with Cobra Kai right now.
And then we have the rest of the cast, Elizabeth Shue.
Talk to us a little bit about the supporting actors.
Yeah, I feel like they cast everybody 20 years older than Daniel, I realize.
They really did their best to make him the underdog.
I mean, everybody else here is better looking, cooler, whatever.
They got, what's his name?
My buddy, who's, like I said, one of my friends is in this film, he didn't have a ton of lines, but one guy was Steve McQueen's son.
No way!
He's one of the Cobra Kai?
Yeah, I think he ended up going to prison or something.
He kind of had a messed up life.
But he's the guy that, in the locker room, comes after Johnny and he's got his eyes like this, you know?
He's like real crazed.
Just in the tournament?
Right before the tournament?
Right before the tournament.
He's got his hair clearly dyed blonde.
He's clearly got brown hair.
But yeah, that guy's terrifying.
Totally.
You're a kid.
In the 80s, they had this weird thing where And Johnny, he's like twice the size of Johnny.
You know what I mean?
He's a perfect villain for him.
He's such a cool looking dude.
He looks like Iceman from Top Gun.
Totally.
And neither of them had done karate.
Neither Daniel or Johnny.
But the actor who played Johnny was actually a wrestler.
Was a high school wrestler.
Oh, is that right?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, he looks like he's athletic, he looks like a badass.
Daniel Sanberry looks like he could lift up a 30-pound weight, you know?
And they got these two pitted against each other, so he's a serious underdog.
And, you know, in the 80s they had this thing, I mentioned it before on the show, even if you were in high school and you were dealing with bullies, they made it like a life-threatening thing.
Where you genuinely thought, you know, we saw that scene open up where they, where Johnny kicks into the fence.
He doesn't just kick that, that sign.
He, it explodes.
Like he absolutely obliterates that sign.
Like if he would have hit Daniel-san in the head, if Miyagi hadn't saved his life.
That guy's brains would be all over that fence, you know?
I mean, like, they were out for blood.
Back to the future, same thing.
You really felt like Marty was going to die.
Chris, no mercy.
No mercy.
No mercy.
On the one hand, we have balance.
On the other hand, no mercy, Cobra Kai.
Sweep the leg, Chris!
Sweep the leg, that's right.
What about Elizabeth Shue?
Ah, I was in love with Elizabeth Shue as a kid.
Oh my gosh, wasn't everybody?
She was my dream girl.
Yeah, yeah.
She was perfect.
She was perfect.
She was a little bit short.
Well, yeah, in hindsight, when I was a little boy, I was like five when I saw this movie.
I don't think she seemed a little bit short to me.
I was just enamored with her.
She was in a lot of movies in the 80s.
It wasn't just this one.
Yes.
Back to the Future 3, or Back to the Future 2, then The Saint, all kinds of stuff.
That's right.
Eventually she was in The Saint.
There was a movie called Adventures in Babysitting, a total flop, nobody liked it.
But I loved it because a little of the shoe was in it.
I didn't care about the plot or anything.
I was just like, ah!
A little boy, I was in love.
I think that people don't realize that little kids, little boys, Can be girl crazy as much as teenage boys, you know?
And then what about the other star of the movie, the 47 Ford Coupe?
Oh yeah, I mean... When the sensei says, here's your birthday present, pick one of my classic cars.
What kid doesn't want to have that birthday choice?
I know.
Yeah, no, I mean, I'm kind of jealous that that Daniel said, OK, yeah, he's missing a father.
He's got this surrogate father figure with Mr. Miyagi.
It's a kind of a sad situation.
You're broke and everything.
But like my mom drove a station wagon when I was a kid, you know, we were pretty much broke as well.
And I never got a frickin' Uh, you know, antique car for my 16th birthday.
I'm like, to this day, I'm still looking at Daniel Sondra.
I'm jealous.
By the way, by the way, in an interview I watched with Ralph Macchio, he still has the original 47.
He bought it.
And he still has the 47 Ford Coupe.
Well, you've got a beautiful Mustang.
I got a 66 Mustang that I literally stole and it's my baby.
I drive a 2022 and a 1966 OG Pony, but that 47 is one of the stars of the Karate Kid.
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We've got the beautiful training montage in the sea, getting ready to practice the crane kick.
Really annoyed that I never put two and two together, that Highlander stole the B-A-L-A-N-C-E balance scene from this movie when Miyagi's fishing in the little skiff and then he rocks the boat and chucks Daniel-san.
over the side that that's exactly what Sean Connery would do two years later with Christophe Lambert.
But this is iconic 80s.
I mean, these montages, Chris, if your 80s movie didn't have a training montage, it wasn't an 80s movie.
Am I right?
Yeah.
I mean, Daniel-san was the best around.
That was a reference to one of the songs.
Anyway, look, this movie, it was so 80s, it's so 80s that if you like anything 80s, this is a must watch.
I mean, it's perfect.
I mean, the very first scene, when they're pulling out with that station wagon, and my mother had a very similar station wagon.
Of course, my mother's had the wood paneling on the side.
Well, of course, but here's the thing.
As an immigrant, I gotta fact check you here, Chris.
Yeah.
Because she stalls the car about four times in the movie, puts it in, even tells Elizabeth Shue, put it in second and then pop it when we push it.
And I'm thinking, who the hell made manual station wagons?
It's a manual, yeah.
I mean, this is a little bit of a, you know, I found the problem with this movie.
Nobody made manual station wagons.
That's true.
That's true, but nobody cares.
They're just illustrating the fact that they're poor is basically what it was.
But you know what's, like, they're always trying to produce projects, movies, TV shows today that are set in the 80s.
It's a popular trend today.
It's been this way for maybe 5, 10 years now.
Yes.
They love the 80s.
And I appreciate that.
I respect that.
I like the 80s.
I like the look and feel.
I like what they're trying to do there.
But they always get it wrong.
And you know who got it right was Stranger Things.
Well, in the beginning, in the first two seasons.
In the first season.
Then it went woke.
Yeah, then it went woke.
But in the first season anyway, they got Stranger Things right.
And what I mean by that is that when you were middle class or lower middle class in the 80s, you didn't have a lot of stuff that was from the 80s.
Almost all your stuff was from the 70s.
Yes!
And so, like, when they're moving into their house and stuff, and the mom's taking out the Tupperware because they're too broke to have actual dishes and stuff like that, I was like, oh yeah, my mom had that same Tupperware, you know.
And in Stranger Things, you look at the couch, the floral pattern on the couch, it's very late 70s, you know, because you'd get it from Goodwill or you'd get it from, you know, secondhand store, or you'd get it from your relatives or something like that.
All your furniture was from the 70s.
So the early 80s, and actually the guy who's judging this final tournament, Uh, has this very, like the announcer, has this very 70s look.
He's got these big lapels, the big hair.
This looks very 70s.
Well, who is this guy?
Who is he?
He's Pat E. Johnson.
He's actually the fight choreographer for the whole movie.
He's the guy who told the- Oh, you're talking about the ref.
I'm talking about the guy with the mic.
Oh, oh, the guy with the mic, with like a bad toupee.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now, this guy's got a 70s mustache, but they had that in the 80s as well.
And look at Miyagi's shirt.
I mean, look at the collar and the lapels.
I mean, that is, you know, that is 60s, 70s, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And, of course, this was filmed in the 80s.
So, of course, they're just trying to make it look as naturalistic and realistic as they possibly can.
Miyagi's probably an old-fashioned guy, so he's still got that 70s look that was fashionable still for older folks.
And in the modern age, they forget that.
They forget that they've got to put in the American historical fashions as well as the current fashion.
They just look through.
And so, you know, it's strange that things got it right.
They don't get it right often.
And if you want to really feel like what the 80s was like, watch this movie.
All right, if I ever make a movie, you will be my prop master, so we will not be making those mistakes.
Okay, let's talk about a little bit of the origins, a little bit of background to the movie.
It's actually semi-autobiographical.
The story is based on the life of the screenwriter, Robert Kamen, who at age 17 was beaten up by a gang of bullies at the New York World's Fair.
He then began to teach himself martial arts and eventually ended up
to study the okinawan gojo ru karate underneath a japanese teacher who didn't speak english and whose name was miyagi so there you go that's the origins let's talk about a bit of the um the possibilities other people who are considered to be in the movie uh ali they considered demi more and helen hunt that would have been interesting and did you find out who they were thinking to play daniel san
I've never, I've not looked into that, no.
Okay, how about this?
Sean Penn, Charlie Sheen, Robert Downey Jr.
and Nick Cage, Chris!
It would have been a bit of a different movie with Nick Cage.
No, not as good.
None of those choices would have been as good.
I'm not saying that any of the quality of the actors are... They needed somebody who had this appeal, who didn't look strong, who looked not just not strong, not athletic.
He doesn't even seem athletic.
He's a string bean.
He's a string bean.
He's smaller than everybody else.
He's half the size of Johnny.
And yeah, this is this is this guy's moment.
Another choice instead of Johnny, the actor they chose for Johnny, this Zabka.
Do you know who they were considering from the Back to the Future OG movie?
Crispin Glover.
Wow.
I don't know.
I mean, he's a pretty good actor.
Well, that would have been interesting.
Yeah, I don't think that would have worked.
I don't think that would have worked.
All right.
Let's talk about the legacy.
Two more movies, a cartoon show, then a remake with Jackie Chan, Cobra Kai.
Nothing comes close to the original.
The remake is... I can't tell you anything about the remake.
Utterly forgettable.
Cobra Kai was a good attempt, at least, for the first two seasons, correct?
Oh yeah, yeah.
I mean, I enjoyed the first season.
I watched it.
I was actually super stoked.
There was a little cheese, but again, that was okay because they were trying to make it funny.
It was a very funny first season.
It was kind of joking around.
There was this show called The Big Bang Theory, and I never saw this show, but it was a very popular show.
Probably everybody that's listening has seen this show.
And at least I think it was Big Bang Theory.
Yes.
It was one of these shows.
On the show, they had a character... No, no, it wasn't Big Bang Theory.
It was something else.
But anyway, it doesn't matter.
One of these shows that I didn't watch that was popular.
And one of the characters had a theory that Johnny was the hero.
Johnny was actually the hero of Karate Kid because Daniel's son steals his girlfriend.
You know, and then, and then, like, you know, constantly, like, giving him trouble, you know, spraying him with water in the bathroom.
He lists all these things.
He's like, Daniel was the bully.
Johnny was the hero of that movie.
This is just like the people, all the theories that say the Empire are the good guys and the rebels in Star Wars are terrorists.
Right?
Right, right.
Oh, it was a show called, uh, How I Met Your Mother was the show.
Okay.
Okay, so on this show, How I Met Your Mother, this is the theory on the show, and it's kind of a funny, jokey thing.
Well, somebody, I guess, got that in their head, like, oh, that would be a funny show to see what happened to Johnny, and he sees himself as the, the, the victim.
Oh, the victim.
Yeah, he sees himself as, yeah, and that, that, Daniel was the bad guy.
And so they made this into the show, and the whole first season's hilarious.
You watch the whole first season, you're like, this is so funny.
And then they go into the second season, it gets a little bit more, they take themselves more seriously.
Third season, it gets more and more woke, takes itself more and more seriously, and I kind of stopped watching it.
I've heard it's still a great show.
I should probably You know, watch the later seasons.
But yeah, I only watched the first two seasons.
The first season of Cobra Kai was actually excellent and a really good show.
Real good follow-up to this film.
A little cheesy, but I think it's worth watching.
We're watching the end scene, the tournament.
The director had, you know, 20 cameras hidden all over the set here.
All kinds of angles and amazing... Wow, like a special effects shot.
That's how they do special effects shots.
They get like 20 cameras.
Yeah, yeah.
He had them hidden all over this tournament area.
Johnny's mother was in the audience and was crying because she said, my son's really nice.
He's not that evil.
So she was crying through the tournament.
And they had the amazing, if you watch the movie again, guys, if you're enjoying our review, Pay attention to when they walk into the arena, because the boom shot is one of the epic boom shots of all time.
It's one cut.
Check that out.
Now this, this is the weird thing about the movie.
The sudden ending.
Johnny comes up, suddenly says, I love you, you're great, whatever.
And then he picks up the trophy, and boom!
Credits!
The end is just too sudden.
Did you find that?
You want to know why that happened?
Yes!
I got the inside scoop on that, so...
At least this is the rumor, this is what I've heard.
Originally they shot it with Daniel-san being carried off and Johnny says, you're alright Daniel.
And obviously Daniel and his girlfriend.
But the film's not really about Daniel and his girlfriend.
That's a critical part of the story.
You don't care as much about the tournament except for he's got to save this relationship because he feels too inferior to date this chick.
It's the ancillary issue.
The girlfriend is the ancillary to him and Miyagi.
Yes, critical but ancillary.
But him and Miyagi, this relationship is critical.
And they forgot to shoot Miyagi having a moment with Daniel-san at the end of the film.
And they played it for audiences.
They did a test screening.
And the audiences are like, we love this movie, but what happens to Miyagi?
Like, he just gets carried away and Miyagi gets left behind in the gym?
This is not cool.
So they came back, they brought Miyagi back, the actor that plays Miyagi, they brought him back, and they said, can you shoot one more thing?
And they just shot him doing this.
Yeah, it was, when I saw that last night, I was like, that is not a very piece of subtle acting, Mr. Morita, because he kind of, he's been very subtle, understated for two hours and three minutes, and then he goes, He nods at the camera.
It's supposed to be this connection between Daniel and Miyagi at the very end.
They needed to get that moment.
That's why they shot that.
That's why that exists.
As a satisfying conclusion to their story.
Alright, I always feel like you never do any homework for these discussions, but you always teach me something.
You always teach me something.
Alright, I think we forgot to give a score to the last movie, didn't we?
Did we forget?
Oh, no, no.
We gave a score.
We gave a score.
Are you sure?
No, no, no.
Maybe we didn't.
Maybe we didn't.
No, no, no.
We did it for Beverly Hills Cop.
We didn't do it for Dune.
So before we score here, we've got to do, out of 10, how many sandworms do you give Dune?
And remember, and you can preface it, because up to now, we've been doing, you are doing how much to enjoy out of 10.
I've been doing how good a movie it is in toto.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
You do how good of a movie.
I do it how a modern audience would enjoy it if they've never seen it and they go back and watch it.
All right.
At 3.5, 3.5.
For Dune?
Yeah.
You bar steward.
All right.
I'll give it, I'll give it a six and a half sandworms.
All right.
For this one, we're going to do, um, what shall we do?
Chopsticks.
How many chopsticks out of 10 for Karate Kid?
10 out of 10.
Whoa!
Ten out of ten!
Alright.
This is one of the great classics.
People will love this if they go watch it.
In terms of great movies, I give this six and a half.
Alright, good.
Same as doing.
Same as doing, exactly.
Next movie.
Next movie.
Oh my gosh, I gotta run.
I'm gonna let you choose.
No, no, no.
You're supposed to choose.
I'm going to give two choices and you get to choose between them.
All right?
Okay, go for it.
Because we did Dino De Laurentiis, Dune, another Dino classic, Flash Gordon, or one of my top favorites ever, the second Star Trek movie, The Wrath of Khan.
Do we do Flash?
Let's do Wrath of Khan.
I love, I want to see Flash, but I've never seen it before, so I gotta prepare for that.
Next time it is the Wrath of Khan.
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