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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: The subversion of the American military

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	Thank you.
	Congressman, I do.
	Thank you, and I yield back.
	The gentleman yields, and now I recognize the gentlelady from Georgia, Ms.
	Green.
	That was quite entertaining from someone that had a sexual relationship with a Chinese spy, and everyone knows it.
	I move to take our words down.
	Completely inappropriate.
	Yeah, stand by just a second while we research the rule.
	Give me just a second.
	A motion has been made.
	The gentleman will, the committee will suspend and the gentleman will state the words that he wishes taken down.
	Everything that the gentlelady from Georgia has said.
	No, you need to be more specific.
	The accusations of an affair with a Chinese spy.
	Those are engaging in personalities, and those words should be taken down, and the gentlelady should not be able to speak anymore in this hearing.
	The chair recognizes the gentlelady from Georgia and asks if she would like to retract those words.
	No, I will not.
	Oh dear.
	Mr. G, we like MTG now, right?
	I like that.
	That's the right answer.
	She's finally back on committee.
	Greetings, dear friends.
	Welcome to America First.
	Marjorie Taylor Greene on the Judiciary Committee.
	They had... What's his name?
	They had... Was that Judiciary or Homeland?
	I think that was probably Homeland because Mayorkas was the man in the hot seat.
	And Smallwell asked him some stupid questions about a tweet.
	And then Marjorie Taylor Greene says, yeah, but you had sex with a Chinese spy.
	And did you hear what Goldman said?
	Representative Daniel Goldman from New York.
	He said, strike those words from the record and prevent her from saying anything more.
	Man, what a little fascist.
	That's an elected member of Congress.
	You don't get to decide whether she speaks or not.
	You gotta ban her from speaking.
	But what's the problem?
	She told the truth!
	Yes!
	Eric Swalwell!
	Okay, look.
	Look, it's very easy.
	Eric, try this.
	Go on CNN or, well, try to go on something that more people listen to than, you know, Don Lemon's mum.
	Just go on a big show like this radio show and say these words.
	Say after me.
	I have never had sex with a Chinese spy.
	It's weird he can't say... Eric, why do you think he can't say that?
	Why do you think Eric Swalwell can't say these very short sentences like, I've never had sex with a Chinese spy?
	Because even he has enough of maybe a shred of conscience to know that would be a lie.
	Well, if he said it, and finally we get the photographs, maybe they're on Hunter's laptop as well, he'd be in even bigger trouble than he already is, because he did have sex with a Chinese spy.
	Alright.
	Let's start with a buddy of mine.
	I've been texting back and forth this morning because Dan Bongino is leaving Fox.
	He told me about three weeks ago.
	Shhh!
	Don't tell anybody.
	I've got some big plans.
	Do people like the behind the scenes stuff?
	I think they do.
	Dan left Fox because of the same reason I left Fox.
	I left Fox, what, three years ago?
	Four years ago?
	Three years ago, I think.
	I think I was probably the first person to voluntarily leave a very nice contract at Fox.
	I was renewing it and they wanted complete and utter control over me.
	Utter control.
	And I said, uh, no, no.
	I have a radio show.
	I have a podcast.
	You can't own me simply because you think you want to.
	Not at all.
	So I walked away from them and I think it shocked them.
	Dan Bongino made the decision to leave Fox for very similar reasons.
	But let's put up the headlines.
	Let's put up first, this is the Daily Beast.
	The Daily Beast cheat sheet.
	What does it say?
	Fox News parts way with MAGA blowhard Dan Bongino.
	Oh dear, oh dear, Daily Beast.
	Fox News isn't part ways with?
	Dan Bongino!
	Parted waves.
	No, go back.
	Go back.
	I need that.
	I need that next one.
	Have I talked about it yet?
	No, I haven't talked about it.
	Dan decided.
	And then the Drudge Report.
	Oh my gosh, do you remember, do you remember, Eric, when the Drudge Report was important?
	A long time ago.
	And it was like everybody, left and right, I mean, if you were looking for breaking news like Monica Lewinsky and Clinton, the first thing you checked was the Drudge Report.
	They've gone TDS.
	And of course, what have they put on their front page?
	What was this, Jeff?
	This is what, like, an hour ago on the Drudge Report?
	Yeah, I think it's about an hour ago, correct?
	Yeah.
	So this is the front page.
	They've picked an awful photograph of Dan because it's not about journalism, right?
	It's about ad-hoc minimum tax.
	And what's the headline on Drudge?
	Bongino fired at Foxt.
	Who's next?
	Well, nobody because he wasn't fired.
	He walked away.
	He didn't renew his contract.
	This has not been a good week for Fox.
	700 plus million, million, 700 million dollars in a Dominion settlement.
	And then they've still got Smartmatic out there.
	And people, I think, I think Dan's, I think they're vying, they, they, Knock each other off every now and again.
	I think Dan and, what, Shapiro, probably?
	They're the number one podcast in America.
	When it comes to political podcasts.
	Dan Bongino got fired.
	Why?
	Because Fox doesn't need the money after shelling out 700 million dollars?
	It's a joke.
	The MAGA voices are in ascendance.
	We are winning.
	And the less-than-MAGA, well, they're having problems.
	And President Trump has issued a little video talking about the person that so many would like to anoint in his stead, who he is now beating by 15 points in the polls.
	God's heaven!
	This is just out.
	I guess that Ron DeSantis is not quite as popular in Florida as people thought.
	I assume, among other things, that they don't want their Social Security cut or their Medicare cut.
	Can't do that, Ron.
	Can't do that, Ron.
	He's now at 47%.
	He is by far the most popular person on the right.
	And everybody knows if you want the presidency, it's going to be that man.
	45 turns into 47.
	I want you to sound off on the stories of the day.
	MTG, Eric Swalwell, Dan Bongino, so much to discuss.
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	Hello, who's this?
	You come to talk off the air so you don't have to be called out for your lies.
	Is that what you do?
	No, you're such a pea-brained little shit.
	I don't want to bore my listeners.
	No, dude, you're on there lying about everything, dude.
	Really?
	You couldn't give me one example last time.
	Try again.
	Give me one example, dude.
	Dude, you lied about your fucking education.
	You have a fake doctor.
	That's why you're a DRG.
	Your fucking paper that you wrote is laughable.
	You are a joke.
	That's what you called up on?
	Dude, I have three and a half million listeners, a national radio show, TV show.
	You gotta try harder.
	I know you're a failure in life.
	What have you achieved in life?
	What have you achieved?
	What have you achieved in life?
	Answer the question.
	If you're a failure, if you're a failure, you can admit it.
	If you're not a failure, tell me what you've achieved.
	Tell me one thing you've achieved.
	Tell me what you've achieved.
	Dude!
	shit about your show because I can call up anytime I want and you answer the phone.
	No, because this is fun.
	I love making your blood pressure.
	What have you achieved in life?
	Give what?
	I have no idea what you're talking about, cut boy.
	I have no idea what you're talking about.
	No idea what you're talking about.
	Hey, what have you done?
	Seriously, what have you done?
	Hey, stop.
	Just calm down.
	Calm down.
	Act like an adult.
	Act like an adult.
	Take a deep breath.
	What have you done in your life?
	Give me an example of one thing you've done in your life.
	Okay, goodbye.
	Bye bye.
	You couldn't.
	Bye bye.
	Bye bye.
	He really just randomly threw an Ali Alexander for no reason whatsoever.
	Like, who?
	God, that was so bad.
	Why is his phone registered in a woman's name?
	It probably literally is his mother's phone.
	Probably.
	Oh, that's hilarious.
	Oh, if he calls back, ask him if it really is his mother's phone.
	Is that him?
	Yeah, ask him if it's his mother's phone.
	America First, what's your name?
	I don't know, is this Barbara's phone?
	Why are you silent?
	Is that your phone?
	Oh, he got him!
	He got him!
	He said yes it is.
	Oh, that's embarrassing.
	It's Barbara's phone.
	Get out of here.
	Get the heck out of here.
	That was great.
	Alright, um, titles.
	Um... Dan Bongino tells Fox where to stick it.
	He should sue Drudge because the article he links to doesn't say he was fired either.
	I know, that's exactly what Drudge does.
	But usually they're somewhat part of it or something in there.
	I know.
	But no, that.
	Thank you.
	You're listening to Dr. Sebastian Gorka, a man who's taken down Eastern European governments with just the sound of his voice.
	What is that guy's name?
	He calls in on Barbara's phone.
	What does he call himself?
	I don't know.
	I know it's Barbara's kid.
	I know that.
	But he has a different name every time.
	So why does a liberal have to use his mom's phone to call him?
	I mean, that's like, that's embarrassing.
	Eric, your take on Barbara's son calling in and being very, very childish.
	That's the greatest thing ever, because the joke always is, oh, you must be calling to give your mother her phone back, but this time that was actually- It's true!
	It's true!
	He thinks we can't look up phone numbers.
	Dude, please, take some kind of blood pressure medicine, okay?
	And give your mommy her phone back.
	Sorry, the Rumble guys get to see that stuff if you're listening.
	It's probably better that you weren't hearing what that man had to say.
	All right, I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	All right, Byron Donald's one of the first.
	What are we up to now, Eric?
	We've got like, what, six or seven senators and what, like a dozen reps who've endorsed President Trump.
	It's a lot.
	I heard it's over 40 representatives who endorsed him.
	40?
	I think so, yeah.
	Oh my gosh.
	All right.
	Well, Byron Donald's is one of the first, which is very interesting because he's in Florida, where DeSantis is the governor.
	And he was on CNN with another show host who was Another guest who is very, very angry looking.
	And Byron makes it clear, very clear, why he's endorsing and voting for my former boss, President Trump.
	Cut 9!
	I remember Hillary Clinton once said in a debate in 2016 that if Donald Trump became President of the United States, we would be on the precipice of World War III.
	Well, that never happened.
	As a matter of fact, the world got a lot safer.
	If anybody's got us on the precipice, it's Joe Biden.
	So if you ask me a decision between Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis, what I'm looking for is somebody who can come in day one and get America back on track.
	Donald Trump has done it once, he can do it again.
	And I would ask all Americans, you have President Trump, you have President Biden.
	They've both done the job.
	The question is, who did it better?
	We know the answer to that one.
	I think that's it.
	I think that's the campaign ad, isn't it, Eric?
	Two questions.
	Who did it better?
	Biden or President Trump?
	It's very easy, isn't it?
	Yeah, who did it better?
	And then the answer to that, of course, is nobody did it better.
	That sounds like a Bond song.
	Nobody did it better.
	Let's go to Kim.
	Let's go to your calls in Arizona.
	833-333-GORKA.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	Kim, welcome to America First.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	Thanks for having me.
	I'm out here in Arizona and I would love nothing more than a second Trump presidency.
	However, I do not see any kind of pathway for him winning Arizona.
	And there's just too many coalitions here in Arizona that there is absolutely zero chance of him winning in the general election.
	What does that mean?
	Too many coalitions?
	I don't know what that means.
	Explain.
	So you have the McCain people, you have the pro-choice Republicans.
	We have a lot of pro-choice Republicans here.
	They will never vote for Trump.
	There tend to be one issue that way.
	I mean, we just elected Hobbs.
	That should tell you something about where everything is.
	No, no, no.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	You believe that was an above-board election?
	No, no, no.
	Come on.
	You said elected Hobbs?
	Be that as it may.
	No, no, no.
	It's not be that as it may.
	That's the whole point.
	It's not the be that as it may.
	I know.
	I'm a pragmatist, though.
	And I will vote for Trump in any general election on any ticket that he is.
	I will always vote for Trump in the general.
	However, we have the pro-choice Republicans.
	We have a swath of pastors in our state that are very woke.
	Well then you have to out-mobilize the people who want.
	You have to out-mobilize the people who don't like killing babies.
	Are you involved?
	Are you out there knocking on doors?
	Are you running for a local position?
	I am out there.
	I am not running for a local position.
	Because where I am, we have great people.
	Andy Biggs is my guy.
	We have everybody in my state.
	So why are you so defeatist?
	Why do you think you just throw away Arizona?
	Because I want to win the general, and I just know the way things stand right now, no matter how passionate we are, no matter how many people we get out there, we're just It's going to be the pro-choice Republicans.
	They said the same thing in 2015.
	I understand, and that was one of the happiest political... Right, so why are you falling for a negative attitude?
	If we could do it in 2015, why can't we do it now?
	Well, whoever is on the ticket, I will go out... Right, so I don't get the point of your call.
	If you're saying you're supporting him anyway, why are you calling up?
	Because I don't see a path for President Trump to win the general here in Arizona.
	But okay, if you're voting for him anyway, why are you calling up?
	Because I guess I'm frustrated about... Well, change it.
	Change the reality.
	Don't get frustrated.
	If you're committed to America First, if you're going to vote for President Trump, don't get frustrated and waste four minutes on a national show.
	Get out there and change Arizona.
	It's very simple.
	Thank you, Kim.
	David, also in Arizona.
	Hey, buddy.
	Hey, Sebastian.
	How are you doing?
	Good, good, good, good.
	Have you given up on Arizona?
	No.
	Oh no.
	Good!
	Absolutely not.
	It's a red state and it always will be.
	What brings you to our shores today?
	Alright, I have a suggestion for some merch.
	Ooh, go ahead.
	I think it will surpass all sales in the Gawker store.
	Alright.
	And it'll top the FBI t-shirt and mug.
	Ooh, that's a high bar.
	Okay, David, that is a very high bar.
	What is your suggestion for the Seb Gawker store merch?
	Okay, it's either a CD or a download every year.
	Of all these conversations that come in from people like Barbra's phone and you shooting them down, you knocking them down.
	Oh that's sneaky.
	You mean all the stuff I do off air with the loser libs?
	Yeah, they're fantastic, Sebastian.
	They crack me up.
	You know, I don't know what my higher-ups would think.
	It would have to be X-rated.
	You know, I actually like that, David.
	How did you come by that?
	I don't think anybody's ever done that, have they?
	No, you get producer Jeff to compile the best calls.
	He'd love that.
	Yeah, I know it's extra work.
	You might have to pay him overtime, Sebastian.
	You get him the best calls and just put it out there.
	I think it'll be a seller.
	All right.
	Dude, I'm going to have to do some behind-the-scenes negotiation, but I love that.
	The complete meltdowns of all the crazy libs on one download, one big file.
	I love it.
	That's why we have the best listeners like David and the best callers.
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	Alex, mic's on.
	49 members of the House have endorsed Trump.
	And how many Senators?
	Nine.
	That is great.
	And apparently four more members of Congress from Florida are about to announce their endorsement for Trump.
	Who says that?
	Time Magazine has it that two of them, Gus Bilirakis and Carlos Gimenez, are going to endorse him.
	And then Kat Kamek also has an announcement soon, as does Brian Mast.
	All from Florida.
	Come in with a dab on Gino, but I'm going to pot it down after about 30.
	All right, cut two.
	You'll pot it down after a bit.
	Oh, title for the Commissioner.
	I wrote something down.
	What did I write down?
	Never apologize for being a man.
	Very good.
	Play me cut six again.
	Cut six.
	What you have, we have a thousand billionaires in America.
	Know the average tax rate they pay?
	Eight.
	E-I-G-H percent.
	Eight percent.
	Is that the same day from Arizona, back on line one?
	No.
	- Okay. - Jeff's awesome, yeah.
	Patriot Supply.
	Mm-hmm.
	After the cut.
	Yeah, after the cut.
	Play me 13 again.
	13.
	An IRS supervisory special agent, our reporting is, is now claiming to have information about alleged mishandling and political interference in the ongoing criminal probe of Hunter Biden.
	That person is seeking whistleblower protection to share information with Congress, according to this letter obtained by CNN.
	Our Sarah Murray just gave our viewers that reporting, and I just wonder if the White House has a comment.
	Right now, as you know, we've been very clear to not comment on anything related to any type of investigation.
	So that is something that we have been very, very diligent about and referring that to the Department of Justice.
	And 10, please.
	Ten.
	What we are seeing is the outgrowth of Fox and other right-wing media's constant message that people who don't look like you or worship like you are out to get you.
	And when you combine that with a country that has more guns in civilian hands than any other on earth, and NRA-backed laws that encourage people to use them, well, no wonder we can't even ring someone's doorbell anymore.
	Solomon's gonna be phoned, by the way.
	Okay.
	Yep.
	Coming in with cuts to Bongino to be potted down.
	One minute. 30 seconds.
	Councilman Titus, this guy wants to know what topics you want to talk tomorrow.
	Um... The Leaker.
	Yep.
	Thank you.
	You start messing with my kids.
	Peace.
	It's game time.
	You understand?
	Yeah.
	You think you saw an electoral tsunami on Tuesday?
	There won't be a Democrat left standing in office in 2022.
	You start screwing around with my kids.
	I can take a lot, Rachel.
	I know you've got a lot of kids yourself, and you love your kids.
	Me and you have been friends for a long time.
	You start toying with Mama Bear and Papa Bear.
	I'm telling you right now, it's game time.
	We are not playing around.
	A sample of our buddy Dan Bongino.
	He brings the fire every single day.
	I think he does like four, four and a half hours of radio and podcasting every single day.
	But now he doesn't have to do anything for Fox.
	We're excited.
	Fox is in trouble, but it was going to happen sooner or later after they called, after they called Arizona early.
	Well, you know, that's what happens when you show yourself for who you really are.
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	All right.
	Is everybody calling in from Arizona?
	What's going on?
	And it's another Dave!
	Line one!
	Happy Warrior.
	Dittos from Maricopa County, sir.
	Good to talk to you.
	Greetings.
	So what's your take about Arizona?
	Well, we're looking for a call to action.
	A couple weeks ago, they threw one of our legislators out of the House of Representatives.
	46 traitors to the country.
	The Constitution voted out Liz Hare.
	So we had a rally for her on Monday when they nominated three candidates to replace her.
	Of course, she got the most votes because she's the people's choice.
	So what I'm calling for, if you can help us out, is We need to flood the zone with the Board of Supervisors here in the state of Arizona.
	Tell me the background story.
	So for what reason, what was the justification they used for throwing her out?
	She invited some members to speak, members of the population to speak at a joint session of the Senate and the House of Representatives.
	There was an investigator there who brought up that there were some mortgages that looked like they could have been fraudulently signed.
	And it looks like the money leads back to the Mexican Sinaloa cartel.
	And it's got fingers all over the United States.
	What's that got to do with her and the Assembly?
	I don't understand.
	What have mortgages got to do with the people she invited to address the Senate?
	It was just a potential avenue of election fraud that potentially people were Sure, I got a much nicer idea for you.
	It's mad.
	because they were being paid off.
	- Okay, I'm not familiar with any of the details.
	Stay on the line.
	Jeff, get the details and we will look into it.
	Again, Arizona, this is crazy.
	Mike, Phoenix, line two.
	- Sure, I got my merch idea for you.
	- Yeah.
	- It's mad.
	So you take a white shirt and I surrender, put on in black a Prius and a tank.
	You put Putin's head coming out of the tank with the sights of the tank set on the Prius, and you put Biden's head on the Prius.
	Now the warden is going to say, ha ha ha, I got you now, wabbit.
	OK, I'm not sure that will be a big seller.
	What is the point you're trying to make with Priuses and tanks?
	The fuel against electric.
	Okay... And our idiot president against the Soviet Union.
	Alright, let me think about that.
	Thank you, Mike.
	Let's go to... Oh my gosh!
	Is it Thursday?
	I do believe it is!
	Antoinette, California!
	Hey hey, Dr. G!
	We're never gonna give up here, us guys with I Am For The Voice of California!
	You know, how do you always have the energy you have, Antoinette?
	I'm a hot Latina.
	What can I say other than being American?
	But do I have to say it like that?
	Do I have to say Latina?
	Latina, of course, my love.
	Of course.
	Listen, you as an alpha male and Jan Von Geno as another alpha male, hallelujah for you guys that have guts.
	I am so excited with the news.
	Dan said, keep it secret, keep it secret, but I'm going to tell those guys where to stick it.
	I've got some very exciting plans and he's going to announce them imminently, but man alive.
	It's not a good week for Fox, is it Antoinette?
	No, it's not.
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	It was weird.
	There was a hearing about drug cartels.
	It was experts that were working on other cases in states.
	And it was about an hour long hearing.
	It was real in Arizona.
	It blew up on Twitter.
	What has it got to do with mortgages?
	Nobody wrote about it.
	How they've been getting fraudulent mortgages with money laundering and stuff.
	Oh, interesting.
	And they tried linking it back to Katie Hobbs.
	Yeah, I'm reading on Wikipedia like one witness that this woman, Liz Harris, called.
	Like, tried to claim, oh, Katie Hobbs, the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, a bunch of judges in Maricopa County, they're all in on it, they all took payments from the Sinaloa cartel.
	So, basically the entire legislature was like, yeah, you called this crazy lady here to make these allegations, so we're just gonna kick you out.
	Hold on, I watched it, I don't think it was crazy.
	Really?
	I'm shocked that this wasn't news.
	Really?
	Did you have any proof?
	Does that article you sent me have the video?
	No, but I'll find it on Twitter.
	These are people that were working on The money laundering in other states and stuff that they brought in.
	It's very strange to me.
	I look at Katie Hobbs and she doesn't strike me as a woman who would be doing drug deals with a Sinaloa cartel.
	She's bought like 12 houses in the last 10 years, which is a little strange, but I don't know.
	Send me the video if you find it.
	90 seconds.
	This is Solomon.
	Oh, we need the article.
	I'll send you the article.
	My pillow.
	So...
	Yes.
	Hello.
	Can you -- One minute.
	Okay.
	What committee was that?
	Do we know?
	The committee?
	Oh, the MTG thing?
	Yeah.
	Because she's not on Judiciary.
	I think Swallow is... I want to say Intelligence.
	Oh, no.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	No, that's right.
	He got kicked off Intelligence.
	Right, right, right.
	Let's see.
	It was the Homeland Security meeting.
	Homeland Security.
	Good.
	Yep.
	That makes sense.
	30 seconds.
	Oh, do you have a topic in mind for a war room tonight?
	Yes.
	Um...
	All right.
	On the side of the U.S.
	Constitution.
	America first.
	You know who else is on the side of the U.S. Constitution?
	That's why he's being harassed by the left and even the FBI.
	Do you remember when they stopped him and took his phone?
	Yeah, of course.
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	Let's go to Sally in Cleveland.
	Greetings, Sally.
	Hi, Sebastian.
	We were looking forward to hearing more details about the January 6th prisoners beyond the initial sound bites, because so many people's lives were destroyed, and people's lives were just, their civil rights were abridged, and the one gentleman committed suicide, and all these people that were ushered in there, and then
	Didn't even do any vandalism, and then we're jailed.
	And it's silence.
	You know, we haven't heard any more details other than what we already knew.
	Well, look, it's perfect timing.
	I don't know if somebody told you behind the scenes, but this Sunday we will be getting an update from the attorney who is helping numerous of the January 6th families.
	I think last time we spoke it was 14 families he's helping.
	So Joseph McBride will be on my Sunday show on Newsmax, as will Be the producers.
	If you haven't seen it, if you want more information, Sally, it's out there.
	You've got to dig, dig, dig and dig.
	So you should watch Shame of a Nation, which is the film about the January 6th persecution, which was made by Jack Smith and Mandy Del Rio.
	They'll be my guests along with Joseph McBride.
	Joseph McBride's website is a place where you can support the families.
	You can go to his website.
	McBrideLawNYC.com.
	You can choose amongst the families who are being persecuted and support them through his website.
	That's McBrideLawNYC.com.
	And beyond that, of course, Sally.
	Eric, where do we go for news on Journey to the Sixth?
	Who's the lady who's got it all?
	Julie Kelly of American Greatness.
	Julie Kelly.
	So, Sally, it's out there.
	You've just got to listen to our guest, Julie Kelly, who goes to the courtrooms, listens to the trials, wrote the book on January the 6th.
	You follow her writings at AmericanGreatness and Greatness.com.
	Sally, the information's out there.
	You've just got to dig for it a little.
	I applaud her, and that's wonderful, but it doesn't get the huge mainstream coverage that it should be.
	Well, it never will get the mainstream coverage, because they're liars who work for the Democrats.
	You're right, but I was hoping Tucker would do a little more with it.
	Well, so was everyone, and I think somebody had some words with Tucker because he didn't release 40,000 hours worth of footage like we expected.
	So yeah, I think that's why Fox is collapsing, and that's why great patriots like Dan Bongino are leaving.
	But thank you for the call, Sally.
	God bless.
	Let's go to Larry, Salt Lake City.
	Yeah, I got a new name for Bud Light.
	Tranny Fluid.
	Oh my gosh!
	Oh my gosh.
	Stay on the line.
	Let's give our buddy Larry the War for America soil.
	If he doesn't have that, he can pick something else.
	Tranny fluid.
	For those who actually know how a car works.
	Transmission fluid.
	Anybody over the age of 30.
	That is genius, Larry.
	I'm actually writing that down.
	I love it.
	Larry, I'm going to credit you when I tweet that out.
	Superb, superb, superb.
	Brent in Los Angeles, thank you for being so patient.
	Dittos, great broadcaster Gorka!
	Greetings, my friend.
	What would you like to discuss?
	Well, I'm so proud of Dan Bongino and you for walking away from those skanky, stormy Democrats at the once great but now fake Fox Network.
	It's so sad.
	Go ahead, sorry.
	Yeah, and once again, Fox punked out on America as the backstabbers they proved themselves to be in 2020 when they were the first to call the election for CCP Joe.
	And I trust Mike Lindell and Rudy Giuliani 1,000 times more than Fox.
	And I was praying for the trial to take down the Dominion Democrats, and Fox crushed it.
	But now for their protection, we need to extricate our assets, Tucker Carlson, Greg Gutfeld, and Jesse Waters, before they accidentally suicide themselves.
	Hang on.
	Maria Bartiromo.
	Oh, okay.
	There's others as well.
	Yeah, she's on Fox Business.
	Ah, that was superb.
	I don't think you've done one of your recitations for us with the word extirpate before.
	That's who Brent is.
	God bless.
	Superb.
	Yes, absolutely, Fox.
	Well, you know, they just destroyed themselves.
	Antoinette is back!
	Did I cut you off too soon, Antoinette?
	You did, you little rascal!
	Well, come on!
	I've got the flipping full core board!
	We need some democracy!
	I know we love each other, but come on!
	Okay, listen, and this is very important.
	Yes.
	700 South Tustin Avenue.
	Yes.
	The Planned Parenthood, we've discovered at that particular one, Tustin Orange is doing the live abortions as well as the transgender surgeries.
	What?
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	They're doing transgender surgeries at a Planned Parenthood?
	Either the hormones and the surgeries, or just the hormones and surgeries elsewhere, but we know they're doing the live, live abortions.
	So, is this inside information?
	How did you find out?
	Don't reveal any names, I'm just curious.
	We won't, but we've had certain people participate and go in there to pretend.
	Can I say that?
	Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So you've got some very brave ladies.
	Yes, yes.
	So, and here's the other disgusting thing, because we're here, we were there today and Sundays, but here's the other horrible thing.
	The A, B, B, no.
	Assembly Bill 1314.
	There's this stupid Democrat in Torrance.
	He refused to hold the hearing.
	AB 1314 was going to give the teachers an opportunity to let the parents know about the transgender child.
	The little ones?
	Well, this stupid Democrat All right, we've got 10 seconds left.
	What is your message to your listeners in California and across the country?
	Please guys, pray for all these babies that are being killed and call Torrance, this assembly bill, assembly guy.
	310 area code, 375-0691.
	10 area code, 375-0691.
	How dare he takes away parental discretion.
	What's his name?
	What's his name again?
	Give us the name of the representative.
	He's Japanese.
	M-U-R-A-T-S-U-C-H-I.
	He's terrible!
	Thank you for the update, Antoinette.
	Thank you for the update.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	- Okay, let's do cut 11 and 12. - 11. - Nobody ever gets canceled for being too woke.
	So you can say the craziest thing, like, men can have babies, and then nobody'll, even though people are thinking, well that's kind of nuts, nobody'll say it.
	They'll just fall in line.
	Oh yeah, yeah, exactly.
	That's what I've always thought, men can have babies, sure.
	I saw a dude who was glowing yesterday, you know.
	I mean, it's, and that's the problem.
	And it's totally insane!
	Cowardice.
	Don't hear no, because you know my saying?
	I eat no for breakfast.
	We like that.
	Yes.
	Oh, dear.
	Yeah.
	Why was that lady rocking back?
	I know, it's like an animal in a cage.
	What was that?
	Your camera, your shot looks so much better now, Alex.
	With the sticker?
	Yeah!
	Instead of that big black thing taking up the whole screen.
	Good call.
	Want to come in with something or no?
	Uh.
	Nobody ever gets canceled for being too woke.
	So you can say the craziest thing, like, men can have babies, and then nobody'll, even though people are thinking, well that's kind of nuts, nobody'll say it.
	They'll just fall in line.
	Oh yeah, yeah, exactly.
	That's what I've always thought, men can have babies, sure.
	I saw a dude who was glowing yesterday, you know.
	I mean, it's, and that's the problem.
	And it's totally insane!
	Cowardice.
	That's Bill Maher, big lefty.
	Jeff, when he does something sensible like that and says, oh, you can't ever be too woke and it's just insane, does it matter?
	Maybe a little bit.
	Really?
	I think it matters when you look at people in the middle, though.
	Even Bill Maher, he's been talking about this for the last year and a half, how out of control the left has gotten.
	Yeah.
	Eric, what do you think?
	Does it matter?
	I agree.
	I think it does matter.
	He does represent this contingent of people on the left who haven't gone full-blown leftist yet.
	You know, liberals instead of leftists, as it were.
	So I think it is important.
	Interesting.
	All right, let's go to Fort Lauderdale.
	Derek, line three.
	Hey, Dr. G. Great show, as always.
	Thank you.
	What brings you to our show today?
	What's your question?
	What's your comment?
	Yeah, I'm concerned with those recent shootings that The Biden crime family and his administration, they're going to use this to crack down on our Second Amendment rights.
	And I don't know when the Democrats, when are they going to get through their thick skulls that guns don't kill people, people kill people.
	Never.
	And if you look at all, and if you look at all three of these shootings, I mean, with that guy in Kansas City, if he didn't have a gun, He probably would have taken his cell phone and thrown it at the kid and possibly killed him.
	So you think disarming the population like they did in Nazi Germany was good, right Derek?
	No, I'm saying that... No, no, no.
	Just try for a second to be an adult.
	Try for a second to be an adult.
	When the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany in their first edict disarmed the citizens of that country, you agree with that, but which one are you?
	A fascist or a communist, Derek?
	Just choose one.
	I want three and a half million people to know that Derek and Fort Lauderdale is either a fascist or a Nazi.
	Be a man, fess up, grow a pair of balls and tell me which one are you.
	A fascist or a Nazi?
	Okay, thank you, Derek.
	Goodbye.
	Goodbye.
	Alright.
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	I really don't know what to say, guys.
	Well, I'll say welcome back.
	This news broke about 27 minutes ago.
	Daily Mail is reporting it.
	New York Post is reporting it.
	I'm just going to read it.
	It's super short.
	It's like a paragraph.
	Criminal charges against Alec Baldwin over the fatal shooting on the set of his movie Rust have been dropped.
	Let me read that again.
	Criminal charges against Alec Baldwin who pointed a gun at Halnia Hutchins and pulled the trigger and killed her on the set of his movie Rust have been dropped.
	Baldwin 65 was charged with involuntary manslaughter over the October 21st, 2021 shooting of the 45-year-old cinematographer Hanya Hutchins on the New Mexico set of the Western movie.
	After a prop pistol he was using.
	It's not a prop pistol.
	You can't kill somebody with a prop pistol.
	It's a real pistol.
	If it fired a bullet, it's a real pistol.
	He was using, for a scene, fired a real bullet.
	Well, the gun didn't fire a bullet.
	Really, New York Post?
	I know you've got a little bit of Trump dementia right now, New York Post.
	Yeah, New York Post.
	But seriously, that's the sentence you wrote?
	That she was killed after a prop pistol he was using for a scene fired a real bullet?
	That's interesting.
	How did the pistol decide to fire a bullet?
	Is it a sentient being?
	Baldwin had always maintained his innocence and pleaded not guilty to the charges brought by the Santa Fe District Attorney.
	In a statement to the New York Post, Alec Baldwin's lawyers, Luke Nickas and Alex Spiro said, that's weird, why has he got two Greek lawyers?
	That's unusual.
	Quote, we are pleased with the decision to dismiss the case against Alec Baldwin and we encourage a proper investigation.
	Why?
	Because there'll be another, there'll be somebody on a grassy knoll With a rifle?
	Who did it?
	A proper investigation into the facts and circumstances of this tragic accident.
	No, you were an ass and you pointed a gun at a human being and you pulled the trigger.
	That's what happened.
	Last sentence is perhaps the most bizarre.
	Wow.
	Especially if you find out what the dead woman's husband has demanded.
	I'll tell you that in a second.
	Filming for the movie is due to resume in Montana this week.
	Well, isn't that interesting?
	Yeah, one of the most perverse aspects of all... I mean, look, it doesn't get more perverse than literally getting away with murder or getting away with manslaughter, pointing a gun at a human being, pulling the trigger and having charges dropped.
	But, you know, Democrat privilege, am I right?
	The settlement prior to this, dropping of the criminal charges, Between the dead woman's family and Alec Baldwin's production company, if you don't, you won't believe me, but it's okay.
	You can check it for yourself.
	The widower, the husband of the dead DP, director of photography, he demanded, in addition to a cash settlement, to be made a producer of the film.
	The mere fact they want to finish the film after somebody was killed on the set is bad enough, but then you're the surviving husband?
	And you want to get an accredited name on a movie that led to the death of your wife?
	What kind of man does that?
	What kind of world are we living in?
	So, left wing.
	Arch left-wing individual who's a nasty piece of work.
	Do you remember those voicemails?
	Jeff, do you remember those voicemails between Baldwin and his daughter that were leaked?
	Yeah, I remember those.
	Not a good guy.
	A psycho.
	Yeah.
	The language he uses about his own daughter.
	If you don't believe me again, please look it up online.
	Listen.
	Well, yeah.
	If you have a certain strong constitution, listen to them.
	The language he used with his own daughter.
	This is a bad person.
	Bad, bad person.
	He plays with a gun, doesn't make sure it's safe, points it.
	Why would you need to be pointing it at a human being?
	Either you're pointing it at the camera or you're pointing it away from the camera.
	Why would you need to point it to somebody who's not on the screen?
	It's not an adversary in the scene because she's not a part of the cast.
	He's actively pointing it at somebody who's on set, who's not an actor, and he pulls the stinking trigger.
	And he walks.
	Nothing.
	No manslaughter.
	Nothing.
	No involuntary homicide.
	Nothing.
	But if you put your feet on the desk of Nancy Pelosi's office, you're kept in prison for 19 months.
	You're given a felony rap sheet.
	If you're Jacob Chansley, who He puts a funny hat on and is escorted through the Capitol.
	At one time, if you see the video, peacefully escorted by nine, you can count them, nine officers of the Capitol Police Force.
	He gets 41 months in prison.
	Can we just stop?
	Take a photograph of this America.
	Alec Baldwin kills a woman.
	Nothing.
	Jacob Chansley walks through Capitol Hill with a police escort, gets 41 months in prison.
	It's not over.
	It's not dire.
	This isn't exactly Mao's China yet or Hitler's Germany.
	But just those two examples, Alec Baldwin, Jacob Chansley.
	We have no justice system in America.
	If Mark Howe can have his home raided on a misdemeanor assault charge that has been dropped by a district court four months previously when he was protecting his 12-year-old son from a lunatic pro-murderer Planned Parenthood activist, he can have his house raided, be arrested by members of the FBI in full battle rattle with body armor and loaded M4s in front of his seven children.
	For what?
	A misdemeanor that was dismissed?
	But you can actually end a human life, consciously.
	He didn't murder her, I don't think.
	I don't think, I mean, who knows, but he didn't set out that day, with malice aforethought, to murder that woman.
	But after he pulled that trigger, her life was extinguished.
	All the memories, the emotions, the relationships, all the people who loved her.
	She ceased to exist on this plane of existence.
	That man who did that.
	It's been a tough year and a half for him.
	Yeah, you know, having to hide in his luxury apartments and mansions.
	But he walked.
	We have to change this.
	And it only changes when we demand change.
	When we get involved, when we change the system back to what it was, should be, and what our founders deemed it to be.
	Not equity, but equality.
	Equality before the law, in front of a lady justice who is blindfolded.
	It's up to us.
	It's up to you.
	We must be politically engaged, every single one of you.
	Must be running for local office.
	Must be going to the school board meetings.
	Must be making sure your voice is heard in demonstrations against abuse like this.
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	That's S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A store.com Then the movie comes out and it just bombs anyway.
	The fact that they're going to make the movie is just mind-blowing.
	They almost always seem to get movies made even with whatever happens.
	I mean, the Twilight Zone movie still got made after that.
	Worst accident in cinema history.
	He just landed.
	That was the issue with Solomon.
	He wants to come on today.
	He was on a plane.
	We've got more now.
	Unless you want to do more for just one segment?
	No, no, no.
	While he's trying to get off a plane.
	No, no, no.
	Tomorrow.
	Okay.
	Three minutes.
	All right.
	What have we got?
	We've got... I'm gonna play Cut 14.
	All right.
	Come in with... Which one's... Oh, Karine Jean-Pierre.
	All right.
	Cut 13.
	Okay.
	Come in with 13 for liner.
	Three minutes.
	In that case...
	In that case, don't.
	I'll just do Israel, then I'll tee up Steve.
	Israel, then you'll tee up Cut14.
	No, no, no.
	No, no.
	I won't use... Oh, yes, Cut14.
	I'll tee it up, but after I've introduced him.
	Got it.
	I emailed you that Vimeo link you requested.
	Thank you.
	here.
	What was the third topic I said I said Bongino, Teixeira, and... For tonight?
	Yeah, well... Oh, it was gonna be that Just News story about the IRS and Hunter Biden.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Teixeira.
	Oh, there's Art Del Cueto on Cavuto's show.
	Who's that?
	It's with the Border Patrol.
	Art Del Cueto.
	We've had him on the show before.
	Or is he, like, with one of the unions?
	I don't remember him.
	When was that?
	I've never seen him before.
	We've had him on the show before, Geoff.
	No!
	No.
	No?
	Him?
	Maybe one of our guest hosts did.
	You're thinking of Brandon Judd.
	No, I'm pretty sure we've had him.
	Not while I was here.
	I remember every guest we've ever had in five years.
	Who was the first guest?
	Do you remember?
	The very first guest?
	Me!
	No.
	John Batchelor.
	Oh, don't break my heart.
	Do you know what the second guest was?
	- Who? - Cleveland.
	- You're welcome. - You're welcome.
	- You're welcome.
	Thank you.
	- Knee deep in the swamp.
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	Well, that just happened to me today.
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	There's like a gaggle of millionaires outside Capitol Hill saying, we're too rich.
	Millionaires should be taxed much more.
	Socialism is great.
	And somebody said, yeah, that's a great idea.
	Um, but it's not who you expect.
	Cut 14!
	Hi, um, thank you, by the way, for doing this and it's incredibly patriotic what you're talking about in terms of being willing to pay more taxes.
	I think, Myron, you started out this press conference by saying you want to pay more taxes.
	And so, uh, I represent a group called the Committee to Unleash Prosperity And we have these pledges.
	How many of you are millionaires here?
	I know you are.
	A number of you.
	We're hoping that each one of you will sign this pledge, which says that you will pay a 90% tax, just as you're endorsing today, because you say it's your patriotic duty to do so.
	And so I'm hoping that each one of you will sign this pledge that says, I'm willing to pay a 90% tax, because it's your, as you said, it's your patriotic... Let me understand, you're going to do that individually?
	Yeah, let's get people, I've got pens, let's sign these, you know, so we can solve the problem.
	No, we want, you all said that you wanted to pay, you said you wanted to pay more taxes.
	No, no, no, you said you want to pay more taxes, so don't you think it's your duty, I'm sorry, don't you think it's your patriotic duty to pay more taxes if you're saying that?
	But you all are millionaires.
	Because you guys are millionaires and you're saying you don't want to pay more.
	Wait, you do or you don't want to pay more taxes?
	Why?
	Yes, it's disingenuous to say.
	Why?
	Voluntary change, the law, is going to make a structural difference.
	But you all can make a huge difference.
	That's the Tax the Rich rally being interrupted by a new face of a little troublemaker.
	I love it.
	He's the author of Trumponomics, Govzilla, and he's, well, I don't know, he's just so fun.
	Stephen Moore!
	Welcome back to America First!
	What were you doing?
	Whose idea was that?
	I love it!
	Hi, Sebastian.
	Well, I'm going right to Hollywood from here, okay?
	I just got so annoyed by this idea of all these self-righteous millionaires.
	By the way, that woman I'm confused.
	None of them signed your document to voluntarily pay 90% of their income.
	I don't get it.
	Why not?
	disney big republican conservative yeah and i bet his uh he's growing in his grave to see how liberal his granddaughter is but i'm confused none of them signed your document to voluntarily pay 90 of their income to this what i don't get it why not if being a millionaire is so bad why didn't they sign your paper yeah exactly why Why don't they pay it?
	And then they said, well, you know, it doesn't work voluntarily.
	And I'm thinking, you know, wait a minute.
	We have millions of Americans now and throughout history who voluntarily serve their country in the military.
	I think you have yourself, Sebastian.
	And people who serve in the military don't say, well, I sign up if the other guy signs up.
	They do it because they think That it is going to serve our country.
	Let me just jump in here.
	So I served in the British Army and I was a DoD civilian here in America.
	But one of the things my producer said is everyone he saw and could identify in that video, there's an interesting connection.
	Like the Disney lady, they all inherited their wealth.
	Not all of them, but many of them.
	But isn't that interesting?
	It's true.
	And, you know, the fact is, you know, Abigail Disney, she made her money the old-fashioned way.
	She inherited it.
	And these are, you know, people like Abigail Disney don't know anything about how to create jobs.
	She's never created a job.
	Her grandfather sure did.
	He was a genius, one of the greatest Americans that ever lived.
	And, you know, this is not uncommon, by the way.
	Look at the Rockefeller heirs right now.
	The Rockefeller heirs are against oil and gas.
	How stupid is that?
	Do they know where their money came from?
	All right, so tell us, explain for us why you decided to do that, because I've never seen you do it.
	I've seen you give speeches, go on Fox, come on this show.
	What possessed you to do that?
	Because I think this, that kind of action is massively powerful, because that's looking at the emperor and saying, you're naked.
	That's bursting the bubble of propaganda.
	I think we need more of it.
	How come you did that?
	Well, because I've confronted these folks before on a one-on-one situation on TV shows, and they've always said no.
	But at first, they sanctimoniously say they want to pay more taxes.
	I said, oh, great!
	That's wonderful!
	Pay it!
	You know, oh, well, I'm not going to pay the more taxes.
	I want the other guy to pay more taxes.
	I say that we shouldn't call these people the patriotic millionaires.
	We should call them the patriotic millionaires.
	By the way, the other people who you could see in the background in that shot were people like, you know, members of the squad, the House squad, and every one of the speakers was just talking about a left-wing liberal redistribute income.
	They weren't talking about how to create income.
	They were talking about how to redistribute it.
	And one of the points I made to them when I was talking privately is, wait a minute, a 90% tax rate is not patriotic, Sebastian.
	A 90% tax rate would kill our country.
	It would destroy all wealth creation.
	I got to talk about, I have some British friends who've been visiting me all week, and they've both decided, they've been traveling the country, they have a very successful podcast, and they've decided to move to America for many reasons.
	But one of them, Steve, they said was, We have hit the ceiling with a moderately successful enterprise.
	And the more money we make, the more we will be penalized.
	And we have no incentive to build and hire more people for our company, because we'll be penalized for being successful.
	But I guess, you know, if you've inherited the money, it makes no difference.
	Stay with us.
	I've got big questions for you about what's happening on Capitol Hill.
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	Stephen, This Kevin McCarthy plan for responsibly raising the debt limit.
	And then this CNBC survey that a record 69% of people hold negative views about the economy.
	Yes.
	Good, good, good.
	I mean, I'm very much in favor of the McCarthy plan.
	I think it's a stroke of genius.
	It's not everything I wanted, but it has a lot of the stuff that I asked for at the beginning of the year.
	So you can explain what's good about it?
	Yeah.
	Good, good, good, good.
	It's going to be interesting.
	I mean, I think McCarthy can get 218 votes.
	Then you send it over to, you know, Chuckie Schumer and let's see what they do with it.
	You know, I'm a hardliner.
	You know, I think that this is outrageous.
	I mean, did you see Biden's press conference the other day?
	I mean, he talked about, you know, he keeps talking about uniting the country.
	It was just basically slamming the Republicans like in a hissy fit.
	Oh, the Republicans just want to cut taxes for the rich and they want to slash the social safety net.
	No sign of any Olive branch whatsoever.
	So screw him.
	If he's not going to negotiate, we should pass our own bill and then say it's it's we passed the bill.
	If you don't want to do it, fine.
	Right.
	Actually, let's do that.
	Let's come in with Biden.
	Let's come in with cut five, Eric.
	Cut five.
	All right.
	No liner.
	My pillow.
	Thank you.
	Are you going to the Heritage event tonight?
	Yeah.
	Are you?
	Yeah.
	We'll see you there.
	Yeah, I'll see you there, too.
	I'm going to get there a little late, but I'll be there.
	Maybe I can hitch a ride with you.
	You can, you can.
	It's just a reception, right?
	It's Mount Vernon, isn't it?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Very cool.
	Two minutes.
	Two minutes.
	90 seconds.
	Oh!
	Who did you do that with?
	Was that with Unleashed Prosperity?
	That little Gonzo thing?
	It was?
	Yeah.
	It was genius.
	Response to what we got on that was enormous.
	We've already had like 400,000 views on that video.
	When was that event?
	It was... What's today?
	Thursday.
	It was Tuesday morning.
	Superb.
	They were, the best thing about it was these, all their jaws just dropped.
	They didn't have anything to say.
	Oh, that guy's face?
	The big guy at the podium?
	He's like, what?
	What?
	So good.
	It's delicious.
	We need, we need more of that.
	More of that.
	60 seconds.
	Have you got a good picture of the next guest, Eric?
	Uh, yes, I do.
	Okay, good.
	45. 30. 30.
	30. 30. 30. 30. 30. 30. 30. 30. 30. 30. 30. 30.
	We've created more than 12,000 brand new jobs in two years.
	That's more than any president of the American industry has created in four years.
	So, no president in history has created more than 12,000 jobs in four years.
	I just need a fact check on that.
	I think I know who I can ask.
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	So, Stephen Moore, you must be impressed.
	12,000 jobs in two years!
	Yeah, Sebastian, that's how many jobs that Donald Trump created every day.
	But it's, you know, I listen to that.
	We kind of laugh at it.
	This guy is thinking about running for president for re-election.
	Can you imagine four more years of this?
	Well, he should talk to the American people because there's actually a CNBC survey.
	69% of those polled had a negative view of the economy both now and in the future, which is the highest proportion in the survey's 17 years, Stephen.
	Yeah, I mean, Americans aren't feeling the love.
	And, you know, we do have a strong jobs market right now, but I think there's a hoarse sense that Americans have that there's something fundamentally wrong with our country right now.
	I mean, when you add six trillion, that's trillion, not billion, not thousand, six trillion dollars of new debt in two years, when you have inflation that's you know, runaway inflation that we haven't had in 40 years, when you've got a border out of control, when you're surrendering your energy leadership, I could go on and on.
	People sort of realize, even if they're Democrats, hey, this doesn't make a lot of sense and that this story won't end well.
	You know what?
	They're right.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Talk to us about our side of the aisle.
	You're with the Heritage Foundation.
	You've got to follow this man right now at Stephen Moore on Twitter, author of Govzilla and Trumponomics.
	We have this report from the Daily Wire.
	Kevin McCarthy unveils plan to, quote, responsibly raise the debt limit.
	Shouldn't we be lowering the debt limit, Stephen?
	Well, I'd love to see that happen.
	I mean, we're $31 trillion in debt.
	And as you know that under Biden, you know, we're up, we're headed to $50 trillion by the next decade, which would be, you know, a financial catastrophe for the country.
	This is exactly what I was talking about, why Americans It just in their gut, they get it, that this is entirely wrong.
	So I feel very strongly that we cannot just basically raise the credit card limit, which is what Biden wants to do.
	Just give me an unlimited credit card.
	I mean, come on.
	If you went into a bank and just said, give me an unlimited credit card, they would throw you out on your, on your hitches.
	So by what, you know, and I don't always agree with Kevin McCarthy.
	I've had some run-ins with them, but I think he's exactly right here.
	Let's put in place some financial new standards.
	Let's get the debt down and then we'll raise the debt ceiling.
	Can you be specific without getting into too many details?
	What is it that you like about Kevin's plan?
	Okay.
	He wants to restrain spending growth to 1%, which is probably too high for me, but it's better than the 10% increase that we've had under Biden.
	Number two, he wants to defund the 87,000,000 new IRS agents, right?
	Yeah.
	So he wants to get rid of that funding.
	- 87,000 new IRS agents, right? - Yeah, so he wants to get rid of that funding.
	He wants to claw back $300 billion, Sebastian, of unspent COVID money.
	Now, if we didn't spend it, what the Democrats want to use that as a piggy bank to spend more money.
	No, give it back to the taxpayers.
	It's not like we have all this extra money.
	And then he wants to have, oh, the other one is he wants to prohibit the president from unilaterally forgiving billions and billions of dollars of student loan payments.
	And I'm for all of those things.
	I don't know how you stand on it.
	No, I like those.
	I like those.
	Does this have a chance?
	Does this have a shot?
	What's the reality?
	Yeah, here's what I think should be done because that speech that Biden gave what was yesterday or the day before was in your face.
	He said, I'm not negotiating with these Republicans.
	All they want to do is cut taxes for the rich and slash.
	You know, the safety net and kill kittens.
	I mean, it was an unbelievable speech.
	And so what McCarthy should do is he should pass this bill.
	I hope they get the 218 votes.
	Send it over to Chuckie Schumer and send it over to Biden and say, we passed the debt ceiling extension.
	We've done it.
	Here are the conditions.
	We're not going to talk.
	If you're not going to talk about it anymore, we're not going to talk about it anymore.
	But it's abolished in your court right now.
	I think that's exactly the right thing.
	I love it.
	No more Mr. Nice Guy.
	Let's call their bluff.
	Stephen, do more of that stuff.
	Very quickly, very quickly.
	Yeah.
	Biden has spent six trillion dollars in two years.
	Republicans didn't vote for that.
	Why should they vote for the debt ceiling increase if they are not responsible for that debt?
	Sounds like sense to me.
	In the meantime, keep doing more of that guerrilla journalism because that was superb.
	At Stephen Moore, I'll see you later tonight, you know what I mean?
	I think we're going to be at the same party, the Heritage Foundation.
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	I met somebody at CPAC.
	CPAC feels like months and months ago, who I said, we need to get you on the show.
	I found out a buddy of mine was giving him some strategic advice.
	And we're delighted to have him from the great state of Ohio.
	It says on his bio, he's a husband, a father, a grandfather, a businessman, who's grateful to God for his parents bringing him to America.
	And he's doing something very interesting now.
	Bernie Moreno, welcome to America First.
	Thank you for having me, Dr. Gorka.
	Where did your parents come from?
	So I was born in Columbia, South America, and my mom and dad brought me, my six brothers and sister, to America when I was a kid.
	And what crazy thing have you just decided to do as a successful businessman?
	So after spending my entire adult life building a great business, selling it, and attaining more success than I ever thought possible, I made the decision to run for the United States Senate because I'm sick of political insiders, our political class from both parties, selling us out, not getting things done, and giving us an insanely dysfunctional and bankrupt government.
	Alright, you're from Ohio.
	Have you spoken to J.D.
	Vance?
	Have you spoken to President Trump?
	Tell us how your campaign's going.
	Well, J.D.' 's a good friend.
	He's been very supportive, very helpful.
	So, again, we talk quite often.
	Again, just a good friend.
	President Trump put out a very nice post on True Social last week encouraging me to run and saying that it'd be hard to beat, which I appreciate very much.
	Good.
	All right.
	So tell us why they should back you in Ohio.
	Well, I think if you want a career politician, a professional politician, I'm not your person.
	But if you want an outsider, somebody with a proven track record of success that knows how to get things done, that's me.
	And I'm going to go down there and do something novel, Dr. Corker.
	I'm going to go down there to actually serve my country and not myself.
	Because I wasn't born here.
	I can't be president of the United States.
	You dealt with plenty of senators, and they all think they should be president.
	I won't.
	Hang on, hang on.
	There's like two exceptions.
	The rest of them I refuse to have on my show.
	Exactly because of what you just said, Bernie.
	Because every stinking one of them thinks they're a future president, and they're not.
	There's a lot of... If you win, you know you'll be surrounded by, you know, 97 egos.
	Yeah, that's okay.
	I'm used to that in business.
	You know, I sold Rolls Royces in Cleveland.
	I had a dealership that sold those kinds of cars, so it's okay.
	But you know what?
	I'm going to go down there to provide a different voice, again, an outsider's perspective, and look at my peers and say, why don't we do something novel?
	Let's just serve the people Alright.
	put us here and do the things that we said we were going to do.
	You know, that's what President Trump did.
	That's why people in Ohio love him so much.
	He actually did the things he said he was going to do.
	All right.
	Tell us some of the issues that are close to your heart, what you're going to try and push if you actually win and you end up in the Senate.
	Well, the number one issue for everybody in America is inflation.
	Your previous host, who's a great, great man, I respect a lot of what he says, pointed out.
	I mean, we can't keep spending money at this rate.
	I mean, we're basically bankrupt already.
	We have to turn this all around.
	I'd go further.
	I think we should not only get Biden to commit not to forgive student debt, but we should call back the American Rescue Spent money that hasn't been spent, the infrastructure money that hasn't been spent, the PPP money that hasn't been spent, the Inflation Reduction Act money that hasn't been spent.
	We've got to get our fiscal house in order.
	We've got to stop sending billions and billions of dollars to foreign countries.
	You can't pay your neighbor's bills when you're broke.
	It's not a complicated concept.
	That's number one for me.
	We have to unleash American energy.
	That's how we drive inflation down.
	We've got to be investing in fossil fuel production here in America.
	We should be going to Guyana and developing the oil that we just discovered there with American companies.
	We've got to seal our southern border.
	I find it personally offensive as somebody who followed a very rigorous process to become a legal U.S.
	citizen to see what our leaders are doing.
	Honestly, it's treasonous what's going on down there.
	We've got to declare the drug cartels, terrorist organizations, wipe them off the face of the earth, and we have to make certain that we don't have World War III in Eastern Europe.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I like the way you started it because it's a recognition that you're not one of the other 96 who just goes to the Senate if he wins and then thinks that this is your stepping stone to the presidency.
	The fact that, you know, as a fellow immigrant, as am I, you immediately said, I can't be president so I'm going to go there to work.
	The website is BernieMarino.com.
	Last message for those that you wish to convince why they should choose you?
	Well again, I think you have to decide whether you think DC is broken or not.
	If you think DC is great the way it is, I'm not your person.
	If you think DC is broken, The only way to change it, and you know this first-hand, Dr. Corker, you live there.
	You have to change the kinds of people we send there.
	We need outsiders.
	We need business people.
	We need to send people who know how to get things done.
	That's me.
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	Don't hear no, because you know my saying?
	I eat no for breakfast.
	That's a cackler.
	Eric, what does that mean?
	She must be very hungry by midday.
	Yeah, the only thing I can think of is that's her way of saying, like, oh, I never say no, except she always says, she gets out of saying no by just laughing hysterically.
	At the beginning of the sentence it said, when I hear no, I eat no.
	It doesn't make sense.
	Is she cognitively challenged like her boss?
	This is the lady.
	Do you remember, Jeff, what was it?
	He said, like Obama says, the three letter word, J-O-B-S.
	Do you remember that?
	Yes, I remember that thing.
	Right.
	So here's the update of the three letter word, J-O-B-S.
	Where was this, Jeff?
	This was at some event recently?
	Yeah, this was highlighting his economic achievements.
	I think it was Maryland, but not sure.
	Okay, so this is more Biden math.
	Just listen to how he spells the word eight.
	Cut six.
	What you have, we have a thousand billionaires in America.
	You know the average tax rate they pay?
	Eight.
	E-I-G-H percent.
	Eight percent.
	E-I-G-H percent.
	It's incredible.
	But it's not just the senile people, it's not just the imbeciles like Kamala.
	This is Biden's Secretary of Education, Cardona, who's being asked, how does the administration, whether it's HHS, whether it's education, how does the administration define the word woman?
	He's not too sharp either.
	This is cut for!
	Can you please define for me what is a woman?
	Our focus at the department is to provide equal access to students.
	What does HHS say the definition of a woman is?
	I lead the Department of Education and my job is to make sure that all students have access to public education which includes co-curricular activities.
	So you're not going to answer my question?
	Do you see how he can't actually answer the question?
	But it's not just the president, or the vice president, or a member of the cabinet.
	Let's go down to city level.
	Jeff, you think the mayor-elect of Chicago could possibly be worse than Lori Lightfoot?
	Oh, he's going to be.
	I feel bad for the city, but I'm looking forward to the sound clips and kind of watching to see what happens.
	You think he's going to make for good radio?
	Yes.
	All right, this is mayor-elect Brandon Johnson on the riots.
	In Chicago, cut 8.
	Look, demonizing children is wrong.
	We have to keep them safe as well.
	Have you ever taught middle school?
	I have.
	Have you ever raised young people?
	Do you understand the risk that young people take just because they're young?
	Do you know that home plate is at the bottom of my stairs?
	I found that out when my son was sliding down those stairs trying to score.
	They're young.
	Sometimes they make silly decisions.
	They do.
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	Thank you.
	but they're not coming after me, they're coming after you.
	I'm just standing in their way, and I always will stand in their way.
	Truly remarkable.
	He fought for us for four years and he's prepared to do it again.
	Whether it's impeachment one, impeachment two, the Russia hoax, the Mueller probe.
	Whether it's the raid of Mar-a-Lago and now the indictment by a politically financed and motivated district attorney out of Manhattan.
	President Trump is standing in the gap for us.
	It's not about him.
	It's about the 73 million Americans that voted for him.
	A man who enjoys his trust, who worked with him at the highest level in the Trump administration, is a regular supporter, a regular guest here, whose geopolitical analysis we value so very, very highly.
	He's also a colleague of mine at Newsmax, former Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Robert Wilkie.
	Welcome in studio.
	I don't know what to call you.
	Secretary?
	Colonel?
	Double Colonel?
	What should I call you?
	There are two titles in American politics that are permanent.
	Ambassador.
	Yeah.
	You never retire.
	And commissioned officer in the military.
	Because you don't get retired.
	Colonel.
	You get reduced duty pay.
	You don't get retired pay.
	But you know, the President said something there, and I'm going to quote one of the philosophers of the left, Mr. Maher.
	He said, when President Trump says, they're after you, he said, the left does not understand the power that that simple phrase has for the average American.
	Well, for me, I mean, to talk politics for a second, The 2016 campaign was utterly sui generis.
	Think about it.
	A man who'd never run for political office runs for president and wins the first time.
	That's never happened before.
	But for me, of course this is debatable, but there is one moment where for me he won the election.
	And it's the RNC convention where he was in a crowd and he said, what's her slogan for her campaign?
	I'm with her.
	And he looked in the camera and he said, I'm with you.
	He took that, you know, cult of personality that sadly the left has become and then said, no, no, America is about the mandate of the people.
	I'm just one guy.
	I'm here for you.
	For me, that's when he won it.
	I think that's right.
	And we don't understand The cult of the left and the personalities, JFK, RFK, B.H.O.
	and now, I don't think there's a cult for Mr. O. Mr. Biden.
	He can get more than six people at his events.
	All right, let's talk about... I want to talk about what it was like working for the president.
	I was just a humble deputy assistant.
	You're a cabinet member, but you've done so many amazing things in the military, in the Pentagon.
	But you did have a request, and we like to give in to our special guests' requests.
	The last seven days in presidential politics, in national security... International affairs.
	You and I talked many months ago about the slobbering media when Biden came in and they said that the professionals were in charge.
	Yeah, the adults are back.
	The Ivy League is back.
	Forget the fact that Joe couldn't get into.
	Barely got into the University of Delaware.
	But hang on, he got two degrees at the top of his class with full scholarship.
	Exactly.
	And didn't go to the Naval Academy because the financial burden on his family would be too great.
	Now for those of you who don't know the underlying theme there... We're just making stuff up.
	That he said.
	Yeah.
	You get paid to go to the Naval Academy.
	So the professionals are in charge.
	Let me tell you what's happened in one week with the professionals in charge.
	The president of the largest country in South America, a president that our president has slavishly cultivated.
	A leftist of traditional South American now says that he and the dictator of China are joined at the hip to create a new world order.
	That's in our backyard.
	The Wagner Group, the oft-mentioned Wagner Group, is close to toppling the government of Sudan, the third largest country in Africa.
	The Prime Minister of India, whom Donald Trump cultivated and forged a deep friendship and alliance with the world's largest democracy, and the counterbalance to China in that part of the world.
	He's warning this administration that the Chinese are setting up listening posts and bases around the Bay of Bengal.
	Modi is.
	They've infiltrated the government of Myanmar.
	And Saudi, when President Trump left, and it's something you worked on when you were there, the Saudis were on the cusp of recognizing Israel.
	That would have been a cataclysmic event following other nations from Morocco across to Oman.
	They're meeting with Hamas now.
	They are cutting a deal with Russia for oil transfers to get Russian oil to the market.
	They've abandoned an alliance with the United States that goes back 70 years.
	But remember, the professionals are in charge.
	And this is just one week.
	of disasters.
	And last thing, it reminds me of something that I saw as a child.
	I had the privilege of growing up amongst heroes.
	On Fort Bragg?
	On Fort Bragg.
	My father was a senior officer in the 82nd Airborne Division.
	In fact, the colonel who lived across the street from us was one of the hostages taken in Tehran.
	There's a barracks complex named after him at Fort Bragg, Colonel Jerry Holland.
	When the hostages were taken about two weeks, three weeks after, somebody put up a massive billboard on Bragg Boulevard that said, Iran, let our people go.
	And I was in 10th grade.
	And even then, I thought, that's what we've become.
	That's embarrassing.
	You've got the most decorated of all units in the armed forces, the All-American Division.
	And we're sort of a helpless giant.
	And I think we're lower than that now, because at least Mr. Carter—God bless him in his last days—had enough of a backbone to say, I was wrong.
	And he began a military buildup that President Reagan used, the B-1 bomber, Abrams tank, Minuteman III.
	And to his credit, he did that.
	But there's no epiphany coming from this crowd.
	Well, can I just stop?
	I mean, I didn't want to get to those issues so quickly, but you brought us there.
	It's a perennial question for me because, look, Carter was a former boomer.
	He was a nuclear submarine officer.
	He was a Rickover child.
	Right, Rickover guy.
	And his The paucity of his results geopolitically were not a function truly of ideology in the sense of hating America.
	Exactly.
	It was incompetence.
	It was just getting stuff wrong.
	That's right.
	What we have today is a witch's brew of both arrogance, incompetence, and ideological hatred for the nation which you are meant to represent.
	That's a far worse position to be in.
	Absolutely.
	That ties into something that I did this week.
	I was privileged to be in Fayetteville, North Carolina and help swear in 90 young people into the armed forces.
	High school students.
	Beautiful.
	I talked to recruiters.
	Now Fayetteville would be a very fertile recruiting ground.
	I mean, it sits at Fort Bragg.
	Fayette-Nam.
	You know, 40% of the entire United States Marine Corps is an hour away.
	Yeah.
	And they were telling me they're struggling in North Carolina now because parents don't want their children to be part of a military led by this crowd.
	They've seen Afghanistan.
	Many of them have memories of Saigon.
	And they don't want them to be in an organization that views their upward mobility in the military on the basis of sexual preference or race.
	And I heard that from Army recruiters, Navy, even the Coast Guard recruiters.
	Wow.
	And that is a destructive path that we are on that will take a drastic action from the next president on day one to signal enough is enough because it's eating away at us.
	And, you know, the thing about the military ethos, And these people don't understand because they're professors and protesters and pundits who have no real world experience other than some Princeton debating society, which is the acme of their achievement.
	Look at our national security adviser.
	That the military is the ultimate leveler in society.
	It really doesn't matter what you look like.
	Like professional athletics, if you perform, you're accepted.
	But to do this, and I'll just anticipate something you're going to ask me, as the former Undersecretary of Defense for Readiness.
	The U.S.
	Army doesn't even have a physical fitness test.
	What it passes for now is 10 push-ups and 10 sit-ups.
	But let me tell you how insidious that is.
	So let me use my father.
	Commands in airborne units at Fort Bragg.
	Because of the nature of the fight, and you know this from your British experience, these men are very different from the average soldier in that everything they're going to use to fight, they're going to put on their backs and jump out of a plane.
	So the physical requirements are more demanding than a conventional unit.
	This White House, this Department of the Army says, no, no, Colonel, you cannot, in the name of equity, impose higher physical standards than what you're given by the Department of the Army.
	Despite the mission being far more strenuous.
	And that ethic that goes with wearing that red beret.
	It is frightening to see what has happened in just a few years.
	Well, look, it's just another example of the denial of truth.
	If you think a man can become a woman, a woman can become a man, then how much you have to carry on your back jumping out of a plane is irrelevant because that's an objective fact.
	We're talking to former Secretary of Veterans Affairs in the Trump administration, Senior Strategist for Newsmax.
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	That's So I think what you're going to see is that Russia will be held accountable if it invades.
	And it depends on what it does.
	It's one thing if it's a minor incursion and then we end up having to fight about what to do and not do, etc.
	With a Russian-Brit friend of mine who's married to a Ukrainian, who shocked me, because he translates all the Putin speeches into English and posts them, he said, Putin today, 14 months later, is still using the phrase special military operation, not war.
	He's doing that exactly because of that speech by Biden, saying, well, we probably won't do anything if it's just a limited incursion.
	This is, for me, Secretary Wilkie, is proof of ranking competence.
	There wouldn't be no war in Ukraine were it not for the surrender of Afghanistan.
	This is analogous for me to 1990 when our ambassador in Iraq told Saddam Hussein when it came up in conversation, oh, the Kuwait problem?
	We deem that to be a domestic issue.
	A domestic issue which he took as a green light to invade another country.
	There is a connection, is there not?
	And Kim Il-sung did the same when Dean Rusk Yes.
	An Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian Affairs said the same thing.
	And the next thing we know, Harry Truman's looking at a massive invasion coming across that parallel.
	I don't know if you get this all the time.
	I do.
	People always ask me, what would President Trump do now if he were in office?
	And I laugh.
	I chortle.
	I say, there wouldn't be a war.
	He wouldn't need to do anything.
	Absolutely.
	And that is the proper predicate.
	President Trump, it was interesting watching him.
	And I say this with all respect, and I've said this to him.
	You and I have spent a lifetime in one world.
	We're in the world, we were born in khaki diapers.
	And we've studied this.
	We've studied the people who have made a difference, not only in foreign affairs, but in military affairs.
	He hasn't done that.
	He's a real estate businessman.
	But he instinctively knew a couple of things.
	One, strength begets retreat on the other side.
	And unpredictability.
	Puts question marks in the heads of bad guys.
	And Putin was in his box.
	The one time he came out of his box, he lost 300 little green men in the Syrian desert.
	They evaporated.
	Xi was not moving or threatening Taiwan.
	He understood that there was somebody who was going to punch back if he got out of his lane.
	The other thing that we had was... Can I just stop you there for a second?
	Because I don't know what your first meeting with the boss was like, but for me it was remarkable because I didn't know him.
	I'd been informally, my wife and I, advising the Cruz campaign.
	And I get a phone call from Corey Lewandowski.
	Would you come and visit Mr. Trump in the summer of June of 2015?
	And I said, OK.
	And I flew to New York.
	It was just me and Corey in his office in Trump Tower.
	And it was the most unexpected blue sky discussion I've had with a person of prominence with no military background.
	Because we spoke for about 40 minutes on a gamut of subjects from the Civil War to ISIS to the utility of nuclear weapons with a man who clearly was very interested in these issues.
	And if you listen to what he said about China for the last 40 years, I mean, on Oprah Winfrey's show in the 80s, this isn't a neophyte real estate guy.
	This is a guy who has a passion for these issues and understands realpolitik and force.
	So, I had a similar experience.
	Mine was in August.
	I got on the Acela and went up to Trump Towers.
	And the mission was to explain military nomenclature.
	Brigades, divisions, squadrons, fleets.
	And that's a five minute conversation.
	And it got it got much broader.
	And the questions were what had Obama Biden done to hurt the armed forces of the United States?
	And I gave the same answer that I would give now, the destruction of meritocracy, the lowering of standards, and the appearance for all, well the focus for the armed forces.
	In training that has absolutely nothing to do with deterring, defeating and surviving an enemy.
	Which is the job of the... Which is the job.
	We had the climate change and... Pronouns.
	Pronouns.
	The whole thing started with them.
	The President eliminated those very fast.
	And we saw recruiting tick up.
	We saw the filling of the Pentagon's coffers.
	We had, for the first time in many years, actually, a plan to restore the United States Navy to its place as the shield of the Republic.
	And I say that with reverence.
	If there is a fight with China, it's not going to be with the 82nd Airborne.
	Floating in on Beijing, it's going to be in the water, under the water and in the air.
	This administration doesn't even have an official overseas shipbuilding.
	We have approached the number that gives us the smallest Navy since 1938.
	And it'll be another year or so before when quantity overwhelms quality.
	and on this watch.
	And you concur that it was, look, he's been saying it for 22 years, that Ukraine is illegitimate, Poland's illegitimate, the Balts are illegitimate.
	But Putin took action when he did, after he saw what happened in Afghanistan.
	Yeah.
	And you are a better student of this than I am.
	But if you had people in this White House who understood that war and the discussion of war is essential to Russian DNA.
	Yeah.
	The lies that they tell around it, that Nevsky, Ivan the Terrible saved Western civilization.
	Nevsky saved him from the Mongols.
	Well, the Mongols beat the Russians just as quickly as they beat everybody else, but they tell you that.
	And that they have been at constant war with the West for the preservation of orthodox society.
	Which is strange if you're a KGB colonel.
	And his hero, Joseph Stalin, who's only surpassed in the annals of mass murder by the current regime in Beijing.
	Yeah.
	The regime in Beijing, which the currently White House incumbent son has had...
	Deep and broad dealings for years.
	It's strange how the then Vice President Sun can come back from Beijing with a 1.4 billion dollar deal from the National Bank of Communist China.
	A deal that not even JPMorgan could get.
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	Before we move on to another topic, can we just stay on the issue of Ukraine for a second in terms of the leaker, Jack Teixeira?
	Now, I'll give you my bugbear, my bet noire.
	On Saturday, I saw this tweet from a prominent conservative.
	Influencer.
	Saying, this man is a hero and a whistleblower.
	And I immediately tweeted, then you don't know the definition of a whistleblower.
	A whistleblower sees corruption in an administration and tells requisite authorities about it and gets whistleblower protection.
	In the loosest definition of the word, they give it to a media outlet to tell the public.
	Although that's not quite a whistleblower.
	This guy didn't give the documents to Jim Jordan or Matt Gaetz or Bright Butt or Newsmax.
	He gave it to his 26 gamer buddies.
	Can you talk to us about this case?
	Stooge in Intelligence Malfeasance says the characteristics have never changed.
	Some get a sexual gratification.
	They get that reward.
	Some, money.
	And we've certainly seen that in history.
	And others, it's a self-esteem thing.
	Or it's like for the Cambridge Five, it's true believers, they're communists.
	Yes, Burgess and Phil, who infiltrated the highest levels of British intelligence, and Buckingham Palace.
	That's what this guy is.
	But it's a deeper issue for me in that, and let me just say, It is not unusual.
	I've been a reserve intelligence officer.
	It's not unusual to have a 19-year-old yeoman in the Navy or a tech pumping this stuff out.
	Just because of his age, age is not a function in access.
	It's not.
	What does disturb me is that this Pentagon, this DNI, this CIA knows that, for instance, the Wagner Group infiltrates these chat groups.
	They have algorithms, and if they see the word secret, or they see the word military or plans, they'll get people in these chat groups, and voila!
	They have access, and they cultivate guys like this.
	The fact that the Secretary of Defense said last week that he was just hearing about this, Tells you a couple things.
	One, the dysfunction.
	The incompetence.
	The Secretary of Defense doesn't run the Department of Defense.
	He's a nice guy.
	It's run out of the White House.
	That's the Democrat executive model.
	It's run by people like Sullivan.
	And that could tell you everything you need to know.
	But the fact that he didn't know it, And that there were no alerts says a lot.
	And we know they're infiltrating these groups.
	And I'm pretty sure they're in somebody's net in the intelligence community.
	But we're not doing enough to.
	And the best descriptor for this individual, I call him just an egotistical punk.
	Sure, he's a punk.
	He's a punk, yeah.
	He had a lot of guys who were inside their parents' basement.
	Yeah, and he wanted to impress.
	And that was the self-esteem act.
	He wanted to impress.
	It doesn't mean what's going on in Ukraine is being done well or accurately or the Biden regime isn't lying to you, but that's not what we're talking about.
	We're talking about The first thing in philosophy, in problem-solving, in medicine, you've got to use words accurately.
	You must diagnose with precision.
	Otherwise, your remedy will have no effect.
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	On the issue of critical race theory, etc., I'll obviously have to get much smarter on whatever the theory is.
	But I do think it's important, actually, for those of us in uniform to be open-minded and be widely read.
	And the United States Military Academy is a university.
	And it is important that we train and we understand.
	And I want to understand white rage.
	And I'm white.
	And I want to understand it.
	There's a Shakespearean phrase, cuckold, that comes to mind.
	There's also the word traitor when you think about his relations with General Li in the People's Liberation Army of China.
	But even just, let me just for one moment vent, Secretary Wilkie, Colonel Wilkie, that sentence in and of itself, not only is the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs a disgrace to the oversized army uniform he wears, he actually said there, I don't know what critical race theory is, but I like that it's being taught at West Point.
	I mean, that is actually a moron statement.
	But let's finish out this sentence, what he didn't say.
	I like the fact that critical race theory is being taught at West Point.
	And by the way, Congressman, you can graduate from the Military Academy without taking one course in military history.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	I didn't know.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	It is no longer required.
	But this kind of nonsense is now being imposed on all ranks.
	And by the way, let's also finish the response to what General Milley said, and I've known General Milley a long time.
	He said, I'm not a communist, but I read Mao.
	Well, you read Mao to understand how the enemy is thinking.
	You don't read Mao to figure out how to run your armed forces.
	Yeah, because this is, again, an example of being an imbecile.
	It's not a nuanced difference to teach something because it is bad and dangerous or to teach it because you agree with it ideologically and you want to implement it.
	These are two universes.
	Absolutely.
	Let me say one other thing.
	Yes.
	And you've mentioned this.
	You're one of the few who talk about it.
	When you and I talk about readiness and recruitment, first of all, I'd much rather have one or two fit guys than have to carry ten who aren't fit, but they put them in under the guise of equity.
	Equity, right.
	There's a much deeper issue here.
	When you hear the statistics and sometimes the numbers are 4%, sometimes the numbers 1% of the American high school population being fit for military service.
	That is probably the scariest statistic that I know of.
	Why?
	Because we have eliminated in most high schools and junior high schools the sense of competition.
	Physical education, games that require winning and losing, and eliminating that because somebody might not be able to participate.
	But on top of that, the inculcation of our youth that, in the words of our president, this country has so many irredeemable problems.
	and an irredeemable past.
	These are the words that the Chinese foreign minister fired at Mr. Blinken. - In Anchorage. - In Anchorage, and Blinken couldn't say a thing other than we have to get better.
	To a country that's murdered 100 million people since He was, you know, dumbstruck because the Communist Chinese diplomat was using Democrat and BLM talking points back at our Secretary of State and he just sat there and took it.
	I could rattle off your curriculum vitae, your resume, but let me just mention for those who aren't familiar, former Assistant Secretary of Defense for Legislative Affairs, Undersecretary of Defense for Personnel, and readiness, then Secretary of the Veterans Affairs for the Trump administration.
	What happens that, God willing, President Trump's back in the White House, We have a real leader back in the White House.
	What happens day one to fix your expertise?
	You've served your reservists, served with honor in the Air Force, in the Navy.
	When it comes to getting us back to a place where we can protect America, what has to happen day one when it comes to readiness?
	What do you have to say to the President?
	And how long does it take to get us back to a modicum of safety?
	Well, we rely on the fact that the military is at heart a pretty resilient outfit.
	You tell people what's expected and nine times out of ten they're going to do it.
	President Trump has already signaled what he's going to do on day one.
	The executive order comes down and every DEI facilitator is They're gone and that stuff stops.
	And the talk about the inculcation of climate change nonsense on our troops is gone as well.
	I restore the physical fitness standards as they existed when President Trump was in office, day one.
	And we put in place the mechanism for what I would call a wartime footing in terms of spending and priorities.
	Wartime footing.
	Ronald Reagan came in.
	We were on our back foot.
	We were spending, until this administration, the lowest percentage of GDP on our defense since the end of World War II.
	He changed that.
	We need to get back up to 6%.
	We do need to put ships in the shipyards because this deterrence is going to depend on a Navy Marine Corps team plus the Air Force.
	And then we go out and we tell the parents, your children are going to be trained in a way that makes them not only America's great deterrent, but they're going to be able to survive on the battlefield.
	One thing this crowd got rid of.
	I was in charge of the Close Combat Lethality Task Force.
	How do we survive?
	How do Marines and paratroopers survive?
	Those few in American military service who are actually engaged with the enemy, this administration got rid of.
	Well, of course.
	And very briefly, if these decisions are taken day one, to get back to a modicum of functionality would take how long?
	It'll take a few months, but the other thing that will send a shiver, you start bringing in people like, as General Marshall did.
	When Roosevelt elevates him to the top, he gets rid of the dead weight.
	Of course, he's been keeping tabs on everybody from Lieutenant Colonel Eisenhower to Colonel Patton.
	He had the list.
	And all of a sudden these young people are brought in.
	We've got to get people out of the Pentagon, in the field, and bring the people in the field here.
	People who have not spent their careers pouring martinis at the White House.
	Yeah, bingo.
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	I am disgruntled.
	I am dissatisfied, Secretary Wilkie, Colonel Wilkie.
	You have disappointed me once more because I feel like I've been talking for three minutes and the hour is up.
	We could do this for many, many more hours.
	Let's wrap it up with, of all the things said in the last hour and unsaid, from wokeness in the military, to the Wagner Group, to what have you, what keeps you most awake at night?
	China.
	China?
	China.
	And tangentially, actually I should say, China would not keep me awake at night if you were at the National Security Council and Trump was in the Oval Office.
	So I should say the fact that we've got two more years of this.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	Two more years of incompetence on a cosmic scale.
	And there's nothing redeeming coming.
	With the pool that this crowd takes its talent from.
	And I will quote a great Marine, Bing West.
	Mm-hmm.
	Great warrior from Vietnam, and I won't use the individual he was pointing this to, but in his most recent article he talks about the leadership of the Department of Defense and the White House and says they are platitudes without conviction.
	That's very good.
	And I think that probably says it all.
	Platitudes Without Conviction.
	You know what else says it all?
	I think we have the title for this segment given from what the Secretary just said.
	Cosmic Incompetence.
	I haven't heard that before, but I like it.
	We are living in an age where those who run the country not only hate it, it's the most perverse thing in Western civilization, the history of Western civilization, that those who have the power hate the nation over which they have the power.
	They are also cosmically incompetent.
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