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THAT WERE BROUGHT INTO WUHAN All of that weighs heavily into making assessments at some confidence level that a lab leak was the origin for this pandemic.
Former acting director of national intelligence, former congressman Ratcliffe saying, yep, pretty much a slam dunk.
COVID came from the lab.
Welcome, dear friends.
Greetings.
Happy Wednesday.
It is a Delightful day, at least meteorologically, in the nation's capital.
Gentlemen, can you put on the camera for the production room so I can see you from my ensconced Jewish studio?
Because I'd like to ask Jeff, Mr. G, is he there?
Yeah, he's here.
Mr. G, where shall we begin?
Because you've given me such a multiplicity, a cornucopia of cuts and stories for today.
Should we start with Senator Federman?
That's who I was going to say.
It's his big triumphant return.
All right, let's do a little bit of a juxtaposition.
If you have social media, you saw him.
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He got out of his black SUV in a hoodie and basketball shirts wearing trainers on the steps of Capitol Hill.
I don't think anybody has ever done that as a senator in the history of the Senate.
I'm sorry.
Pay respect to those who sent you there, you schlub.
This is the weird video that he posted prior to coming back to work and after hiding out at Walter Reed.
Senator!
Oh, that sounds so weird.
Senator John Fetterman, cut six.
Hey everybody, it's me, Senator John Fetterman, and I just want you to know that I'm back and I'm feeling great, 100%.
And, you know, during my time during the hospital, the fringy fringies really came up with a conspiracy that I have a body double.
And I just want you to know that is just crazy.
That's not true.
And I mean, you know, dude, John, what event am I supposed to be doing this afternoon?
Dude, really?
Is that supposed to be funny?
Why does he say fed a man?
It's Federman, isn't it?
Eric, your reaction to that video?
That, oh, I mean, I thought it was just bad enough the audio quality, that he's in this echoey room with no mic or anything, but then that very end there, like, with the song and everything, and Fringy Fringy!
What is Fringy Fringy?
Have I missed some new terminology, Eric?
Fringy Fringy?
He definitely came up with that one on his own, and he thinks it's the greatest thing ever.
Now, that's the video he released from his basement, or whatever it was, with a very sloppy edit of him coming through the door, so there's two of them, I guess.
Bada-boom.
That's a joke.
And here he is.
Jeff, is this today?
This hearing video?
Yeah, it was today.
Wow, we get the freshest stuff for you guys.
He put on a suit, or they had one stapled to him.
He's reading.
He's reading from a prepared statement.
This is the man who just said on Instagram, I'm back and I'm 100%!
Cut 13.
I call to this hearing of the U.S.
Senate Subcommittee on Food and Nutrition, Specialty Crops, Organics, and Research to order.
We need to come together and stop playing political games with Americans' access to food.
Americans like Chair, about Cory Jork from the town of Northeast in Pennsylvania.
Tells me that his victim was skimming, which was when somebody stole money and he relied from its snap EBT.
Mr. Jor is not the first Pennsylvanian I've heard this from.
I fear he won't be the last.
Eric, what did he say?
What was that about?
I, uh, something about food, I think?
Because he really enunciated the word food at the beginning of his script, I don't know.
But he said, he mentioned a guy's name?
Skimming?
EBT?
Jeff, did you understand what that was?
I don't know, skimming, maybe it was the wife at the race of swimming pools.
Or something like that.
If you missed that, his wife thinks swimming is racist.
Yeah, Federman's wife thinks swimming is racist.
All right, that's too much fun.
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All right, let's talk about what's happening on Capitol Hill.
We have Senate hearings with Alejandro Mayorkas, the man who is meant to defend us, to keep our borders secure, and to make sure that bad things and bad people don't come into this country.
Senator Ron Johnson, well, he just read Mayorkas the Riot Act.
Cut to!
You are failing miserably.
Four to five million people, 1.4 million unknown gotaways.
We have no idea who those people are, what kind of security they risk.
You're not giving me any stats whatsoever in terms of the number of people that are human trafficked, how many young girls are sex trafficked.
You don't have a clue.
You wouldn't even answer how many dead bodies, which is very well documented, at the border.
Do you not care?
Do you not have just an ounce of human compassion for what your open border policy, the type of human depredations it is causing?
You just sit there looking with a blank look on your face.
And you're saying it's a priority.
If it's a priority, how did we let four to five million people in this country, in a little more than two years, four to five million people The population of 20 to almost 30 states, and you're saying this is a priority?
Mr. Secretary, you ought to resign.
And Mayorkas just sits there, blank-faced, but it continues.
This is Senator Josh Hawley telling the truth.
I look forward to discussing this issue further because you are misstating the facts so terribly.
I am reading you the facts from articles in the news and your usual modus operandi is what you're doing again today was just to deny, deny, deny.
Why have you permitted 345,000 children to come into this country unaccompanied?
Why have you permitted thousands of them to be abused and exploited?
Senator, what we do is we enforce the law, but let me just say this.
But you're not!
It is stunning to me, stunning, to hear you say that the prior administration reunited children with their parents.
Oh, I see.
So this is their fault?
So you're not going to take any responsibility?
For the indentured servitude and exploitation of children that is happening on your watch a moment ago, you were crowing about the fact that you treated children so well, and yet we find tens of thousands of children who are forced to work as slaves because of your policies, and you turn around and blame a prior administration.
Mr. Secretary, this is par for the course for you.
You do it every time you appear before this committee.
You do it every time you appear before Congress.
I, for one, am sick and tired of it, and thousands of children are in physical danger.
Danger!
Because of what you are doing.
But they don't care.
Paul is exactly right.
People are being raped, killed, endangered every single day and they're thousands or tens of thousands.
Democrats don't give a damn.
Because, well, it's about power.
It's about votes.
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Help us out here because there's some stories that pop into the media Totally out of left field.
And most people have no idea how to react.
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And the one that's been around for the last few days is people being arrested in America because the Communist Chinese government is running police stations on US soil.
Help us out, Natalie.
What is this all about?
Well, this story, unfortunately, doesn't just come out of left field.
It's a perfect example of how deep Chinese Communist Party infiltration in the United States goes.
And it's not just the New York story that people may have heard about.
The FBI arrested two Chinese nationals for operating what they say is a police station in Manhattan.
But other reports Indicate that there are dozens of these either secret or de facto police stations operating across the country.
Even in states like Nebraska and Minnesota, they have it in cities like San Francisco, and people may remember the debacle that went down at the Houston consulate under the Trump administration, where the Chinese embassy was burning documents, burning papers.
But what's really important here, and what the signal, not the noise is with this story, is that these Can I just interrupt you for a second?
Because that's the right way.
Everybody says Chinese police stations.
They're not police stations.
They're not, you know, finding your lost kitty cat.
They are secret police stations.
They are covert stations for secret police, right?
We have to be specific here, Natalie, correct?
Of course.
So they masquerade under the pretense of police stations because they're part of the Chinese Ministry of Public Security, but they have no enforcement agencies.
They're not conducting law enforcement operations to make sure that within Chinatowns or Chinese communities that safety is prioritized or sacrosanct.
Frankly, they do the exact opposite, particularly with the diaspora communities.
People who used to live in China who fled communist China living in the United States, they set up these sort of proxy outlets.
to be able to track individuals who are engaging and speaking out against the Chinese Communist Party.
But they also use it, again, like I was saying, these entities are under the auspices of what's called the United Front Work Department, which really is the center point, the key, I would say, angle of attack, really the center, the focus of the Chinese Communist Party's foreign influence operations.
People who are familiar with the work that I did at the National Poll, even what I cover on War Room, which has to do with these, again, massive elaborate foreign influence campaigns targeting Western media, journalists, academics.
This is the main hub whereby these tactics, these operations emanate from out of Beijing.
So this is basically just sort of another extension of foreign influence operation happening here on American soil.
Do we have any sense of what it is they're doing here?
Who they're targeting?
What is the mission statement of these underground secret police installations?
So their primary target, at least with what has been reported, is, like I said, the Chinese diaspora community.
So these are Chinese Americans who are, of course, some of the most vocal supporters of President Trump, because they understand the threat that communism poses.
But these are the people who are engaging And a lot of activism, whether it's about the origins of COVID, just speaking out against the Chinese Communist Party, daring to defy what is that brutal authoritarian totalitarian regime, which, of course, their entire credibility and their right to rule rests on the notion that the Chinese people feel like they can't get away with criticizing them.
And frankly, this story proves that because the Chinese Communist Party is able to set up these, you know, proxy surveillance And really just kind of areas whereby they can control Chinese Americans embedded here in the United States.
It's a testament to how far their grasp over American society is.
I'm not exactly sure in terms of what Americans are on their radar.
Like I said, the United Front Work Department likes to make contact and engage with elite Americans.
like I said, the journalist types, media types, the politicians, academic types, through another offshoot of the United Front War Department.
But that's the kind of umbrella organization that oversees these police.
We have to get you back for a longer discussion.
But one thing that's related, a quick, quick answer, please.
We had these Confucian Institutes on campuses in America that were pumping Chinese Communist propaganda into the schools, into the high schools.
There's been some work to undermine those.
Where are we at?
I know sometimes they reinvented themselves under another name.
When it comes to soft propaganda, what's the reality right now, Natalie?
Yeah, the soft propaganda battle was waged all the way at the kindergarten level here in American classes.
Fortunately, the Confucius Institutes on the collegiate level have, for the most part, been disbanded.
The Chinese Communist Party has sort of tried to rebrand their new initiative.
But what the sad part is, even though it's not operating under the names of Confucius Institutes, a lot of these universities, many of whom are led by academics who have, again, taken these trips to China from these United Front Department-linked groups, They're still taking Chinese cash.
It's just more under the table.
So the propaganda war weighs on.
All right.
In the meantime, listen to her.
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With that, who's that other chap?
What's his name?
Stephen K. Bannon.
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Natalie.
Chinese secret police units in America.
And then, for Will Care, what was the most interesting what was the most interesting thing?
I mean, I know you want to incorporate the phrase... I know, but I'm trying to think, because I like it, but I'm not sure it'll get maximum whatever.
I mean, dunking on Millie is probably a nice change of pace, because Ukraine was a big portion of it, but we talked about it at the time.
Yeah.
Mark Milley and...
And the subversion of the American military.
Nice alliteration.
Yeah.
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Oh yeah, Instant Reaper.
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They'll have to send a shorter script.
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Line one, North Carolina.
John.
Ah, come on, South Carolina.
Get it straight, please.
Alright, alright, alright.
Jeff, Jeff, you know there's two Carolinas in America, right Jeff?
No, it doesn't.
That's a lie.
It doesn't say anything.
It says a white box now.
I lived there for six years, I know that.
Okay.
Alright, I deny all culpability because I can.
Carry on.
You threw me completely off my game.
My opening line was supposed to be... I don't believe that for a second!
I don't think an artillery shell exploding in the atmosphere above your head would throw you off your game, my friend.
Well, you might be right on that, but let me throw this one at you.
Have you ever noticed how much Xi Jinping sounds like a bullet ricochet?
Listen, I want to make you some money first.
You know who Anton LaVey is, right?
She's in.
Bing!
That's how he introduces him.
She's in.
Bing!
I came up with it independently.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I always do that.
Listen, I want to make you some money first.
Yes, yes.
You know who Anton LaVey is, right?
Who?
Anton LaVey, the founder of the Satanic Church.
I'm glad I don't, but I know the British guy.
I'm shocked that you don't know that.
I would recognize his face, but carry on.
Well, all you have to do is look at John Fetterman's face and you see... Oh, yes!
That's the whole point.
But he was a smaller guy.
A smaller guy, but still close up.
They look exactly alike.
Are you saying they're related, John?
I am not saying any such thing, particularly after a New York Times versus Sullivan decision was sold out.
Yeah, isn't that going to be interesting?
So, I guess the left... Let me give you the quick one on this one before I get to what I'm calling on.
We've got Phil, Don, Judy and Sean waiting.
Carry on.
Yeah, okay.
What's the difference between Anton LaVey and John Fetterman?
Underneath it, you've got pictures of both of them, and underneath it, it says, only the devil knows.
Good one.
Deep.
I love it.
Thank you, John.
Do you remember the line that says, no brag, just fact?
from the Guns of Will Sonnet.
Do you ever remember hearing that?
No brag, just fact?
No, I do not.
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It's under the Guns of Will Sonnet.
He said it a lot.
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Okay, we will check it out.
Thank you, John.
Got to move on.
Phil in Philly, line two.
Hey, Dr. G.
It's been a while.
How are we doing, Phil?
Good.
Listen, I know you heard about Chris Christie, you know, downplaying and lambasting Governor DeSantis about, you know, Disney.
Give him a break.
Look, in Jersey right now, Governor Phil Murphy has a complete gender inequality curriculum that went into play this year from kindergarten through high school.
I mean, these people are into so much into sexualizing our children.
They're Froot Loops.
Christie and Murphy.
They're Froot Loops.
I just can't make sense of it.
These Jersey guys... But it's okay, Phil, because, you know, the latest reports have it that Christie's going to run for president, and he's got such a chance, don't you think?
Unbelievable.
You know, someday, Dr. G, we're off topic here right now.
I know Budweiser messed up really bad, but if Biden was behind that dude with his hands on his shoulders and snipping his hair from the back, I would have bought 20 cases of them and gave them out as Christmas presents.
Thank you, Phil.
God bless.
Let's go to our buddy in Los Angeles, Don, line three.
Dr. G, what a day, what a day.
Do you use some kind of electronic voice changer?
That cannot be natural.
You have such a mellifluous, melodious low voice.
It's just awe-inspiring.
It's just the Shakespearean training, Dr. G, which is why I call.
I was so impressed by your, you know, Commentary on Dune, the original Dune.
Oh, you liked it?
I thought it was a bit Shakespearean.
Did you like the OG Dune?
Yeah, I mean, the only problem with it is, you know, it's like cutting War and Peace down to a hundred pages, you know, when you butcher it like that.
But I mean, but everything that came out of it was so incredible.
And just quickly, I wanted to give credit out to the ladies, you know, Francesca Annis and Sian Phillips.
You know, these marvelous Shakespearean actresses, they hardly did any movie work.
No, you're absolutely right.
Annis did a little bit of TV work in the UK, and Sean Phillips was famous from the Roman serial, I, Claudius, from when I was a kid.
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I still need to watch Karate Kid.
Is Holman confirmed?
That's locked in.
Jeff says yes.
Good, good.
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Oh, that one with, like, six women?
Uh, that one that Mike Knowles was on recently?
Yes, yes.
Yeah, what's your alternative, Klaus?
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To have those young women on one podcast.
Let him pick whatever he wants on the website.
Uh, Judy!
Brooklyn!
Line 4.
Stop laughing at me.
Why do you answer the phone by laughing at me?
That is just so disrespectful, Judy from Brooklyn.
You know what?
I'm not laughing at you.
I'm laughing because I'm so happy that you welcome me so nicely all the time.
I love it.
Well, of course.
Aren't you like the number one fan amongst many number one fans?
You've got two million and plus fans for sure.
Oh, I'm absolutely a fan of yours.
You know that.
Come on.
Thank you.
What brings you to our lovely show today?
Knowing that, I think you should be in the Radio Hall of Fame.
You deserve to be in the Radio Hall of Fame.
Hey, I'm still a spring chicken.
I'm only 52.
Give me some time.
It takes decades for big names to get in there.
And look, I worked for Trump, so I'm never getting in there.
But thank you.
I appreciate it.
That's not true.
That's not true.
It is true.
I worked for President Trump.
It is true.
It is true.
No, no.
Even though you're conservative, you can get in there.
But let me, let me digress.
I don't want to digress.
You know what?
Judy doesn't want to digress.
That is the biggest fib I have ever heard.
Your middle name is digress.
Judy digress from Brooklyn.
You know what?
You're laughing because I have something.
Okay.
First, I'm going to go with this.
I am so disappointed in the Fox News caving in to the Dominion machine.
Bunch of garbage people own it, because I'll tell you why.
Whatever I know, because, you know, they could have gone to court.
They could have challenged them.
They could have exposed these machines.
They could have had them inspected, which they've never allowed anyone to do.
This is a huge, huge problem.
And I think Dan Bongino, I had to stop listening to him to prep for the show, he said he is Dedicating basically all three hours of his show and his daily podcast to this issue because the ramifications of what Fox did are going to ripple through the whole industry, Judy.
Right, right.
Yes, and it makes Dominion Machines look like they're terrific.
Yes, it makes them look like they won.
Yeah, and listen, from what I know, they're from China, and Venezuela, Maduro, they put them up there in Venezuela, when Maduro, the communist, got propped up, okay?
And I understand that Rudy Giuliani did actually was able to infect one of those machines when he was going through that whole thing.
And those machines are computers.
They're basically computers.
They can be programmed and they probably can be hacked.
I don't trust... Hang on, hang on.
It's not, it's not that they can probably be hacked.
Before President Trump became president, the left did a documentary.
Very hard to find now.
I think it's an HBO doc.
Jeff, do you remember what that name of that documentary was?
Eric knows.
I don't remember the name, but I do remember what you're talking about, that they talked about... Right, and it had everybody.
It had, who's the crazy senator who said, oh, would you like a beer to her husband?
Elizabeth Warren was in it.
They went, Judy, they went to eBay, and they bought one of the newest Dominion machines, and they took it to the annual Cyber Hacker Conference, and it was hacked within 30 minutes.
There you go.
And this is the left.
This isn't a Newsmax documentary.
This isn't Fox.
This is a left-wing documentary that was saying, oh, you can't use these machines because the Republicans will steal the election.
They did a whole film about it.
Yes.
It's unbelievable.
It's so hypocritical.
And so I'm so upset.
I don't know why.
You know, I think George Soros is a bit of a partner in Fox News.
And I don't know what that angle is, but something is off over there.
George Soros?
I'm not sure about that.
We'll have to look into that.
I think I would be surprised.
Maybe he has interest in an investment company that has Some kind of Sharon Fox, but no, I mean, no, no.
The Murdoch Empire, I think, would probably stay far away from George Soros.
But you never know, because we are living in the age of the Uniparty.
Thank you, Judy.
I don't deviate from Brooklyn.
Sean, stay on the line.
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It was called Kill Chain.
Kill Chain!
That's it.
Was it HBO?
It was HBO, and I've got this headline here from FastCompany.com in March of 2020, quote, HBO's new Kill Chain documentary will terrify you about American election security.
Yeah, I still don't know why Fox did that with it.
Why they did what?
Settled.
And for that much money.
Because the case was for 1.5 billion.
That was like half.
Yeah, they got like half of what they were going for.
They got off with half.
The only thing I don't get why they didn't do it is because of all the discovery.
I mean, Dominion had a crappy, forget the fraud stuff, they had a crappy voting system.
Their machinery is garbage.
And it would have had to have been, you know, revealed in discovery.
But someone was saying in a civil case, too, all the negative stuff on Fox is already out there.
Because it all comes out in depositions before.
No, no, no.
There's no way Dominion gave out everything.
Why would they?
You don't have to.
Unless you go to court, you don't have to.
They would have used that behind closed doors, you know, in the settlement, right?
If you don't pay now, you know, this is what we're going to let out in court.
It's amazing that Dan dedicated the whole show to that today.
All right, we'll have fun with stealthy with Jen.
Play me five again, quickly, just a bit of it.
Yep.
We are now at a point where officially most officers are paid more than a teacher with a master's degree serving these same kids involved in these same incidents.
Come in with 10.
Come in with 10.
And if we pass the budget I'm proposing, we'll lower spending way beyond that just in the first...
We're going to lower the spending by $168 billion just because of the way we've changed Medicare.
I mean, excuse me, prescription drug costs.
160 or 600.
Medicaid or prescription drugs.
He's only the president.
He can't literally read a teleprompter.
Who's worse?
He or Federman?
You'll have to flip a coin on that one.
Let's get a show on New York City!
Line 5.
Dr. Gorka, I think I got the musical nexus there that your producer put in there.
Was that either a few dollars more or a fistful of dollars?
It seems very appropriate for this administration.
It does indeed.
It does indeed.
What are you calling about, my friend?
Well, today, sir, I thought I would give a little bit of St.
Paul.
The Book of Romans seems to be so appropriate for what's going on today.
The latter portion of Romans 1, 24, it says, Therefore God gave over ...in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.
They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshipped and served created things rather than the Creator, who is forever praised.
Amen.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lust.
Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.
In the same way that men also abandoned natural relations with women who were inflamed with lust for one another, men committed shameful acts with other men and received in themselves the due penalty for this error.
Yeah.
You know, it goes on and on and on.
And honestly, I think it would be a great slogan for Trump or for, you know, the Republicans.
You could just show, put the health minister, put him up there, put that person who was stealing the luggage, you know, and just read from the Book of Romans.
What happens is our history, you know, as we know, the themes of history repeat themselves.
But I really believe that this country mirrors Israel.
And if you look at the chosen people, look at the Bible and see how they fell away from God and God punished them and he handed them over to their enemies.
And that's what you're seeing today.
No, no, I cannot agree with that.
Then you don't understand the covenant with Jesus.
Our God is not a God of punishment that it was the Old Testament.
He's not punishing us.
We are choosing this way of perversion.
Let's be very clear, Sean.
Jesus is the Son of God who took our sins upon himself voluntarily to establish a new covenant.
This isn't the God of the ancient Old Testament with Sodom and Gomorrah and Pillars of Salt.
It's us.
Don't blame God for the wickedness.
Blame ourselves.
It is the corrupt, fallen men and women who are the cause of these perversions and the mutilation of children.
So, yeah, Romans, beautiful reading.
Thank you so much, Sean.
But you nailed it when it comes to the fact that this is diabolical.
The devil is in the hearts of these men and women and they are mutilating children.
We need to stop them and stand up to them.
Thank you, Sean.
Bringing us back, we don't talk about the Good Book enough here.
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Best coffee is Illy.
That's a fact.
And she gave me the can and I just dumped it over some ice and in my big green cup.
So what was it a can of?
Was it like a cup?
Illy.
It was just cold brew.
Cold brew.
Black cold brew.
Do you drink Illy with Nutella?
What?
Don't you like the Nutella?
Do I?
No, Seb, obviously.
Oh, you like Nutella?
Oh, you like Nutella.
You know the best way?
Oh, hang on, hang on.
Not a big Nutella person.
Oi!
Stop!
I don't need it.
You're fired!
I like peanut butter.
Don't you like chocolate?
I do.
You know what?
I think I should probably revisit Nutella.
It's just the one time I had it was in Paris, in Crepes, and I just remember not loving it there, so I haven't tried it since.
I'm not going to talk to you for the next two segments.
For the next two segments?
That'll be so boring.
I'm not talking to you.
Tell me what's good about it.
It's chocolate and hazelnut, right?
Yeah, but it's really chocolate.
Okay, well then I would like it.
That's too hazelnutty and it's watered down.
Two seconds.
Here's looking at you, snowflake.
America first.
I'm in a huff.
I'm in a sulk for the next 19 plus 9 minutes.
I have people I work with, people who I used to respect, who say they don't like Nutella.
How dare they?
How dare they?
My producer says he doesn't like Nutella?
And my West Coast warrior princess, erstwhile, erstwhile West Coast warrior princess, putative princess, she doesn't like it either.
Is this true?
Can it be true, Jennifer Horne?
You know, I said that I would give it a try.
The last time I had Nutella was when I was in France, and it was years ago.
And I had it on the street with a crepe, and I just wasn't a big fan of the whole experience.
So I will try it again.
I just was kind of turned off, so I hadn't tried it.
But I love peanut butter.
Peanut butter is great.
Although you're saying this is more chocolatey hazelnut, right?
So everybody says it's a hazelnut spread.
That's propaganda.
It's a lie.
I think the jar may have been introduced to a hazelnut sometime in the history.
It's not a hazelnut.
It's like chocolate!
It's pure stinking chocolate and it's delightful.
It crepes on toast on a spoon.
But here's the best thing.
Okay, do you like chocolate?
Uh-huh, of course.
OK.
So this is what you do.
Don't tell anybody.
OK.
All right.
You get the really big one that has the wide mouth so you can put really big spoons in it.
And you put the jar in the fridge.
Oh, get it cold.
Is that the secret?
It slightly gets hard, but you can like scrape it and ooh, and it melts in your mouth.
And it's just, I'm sorry.
Now we know birthday gifts from now on, guys.
It's cheap.
You just have to get him some Nutella.
That's it.
It's the chocolate spread of the gods.
All right, let's get back to work.
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I am so excited.
You're going to see me a week from Saturday at the Unite i.e.
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And for all of our friends in California, if you have not yet gotten your tickets, do not wait.
Do not sleep on this.
Listen to this lineup.
Are you ready?
First of all, Dr. Sebastian Gorka, our big star.
First of all, Jen and Grant.
Okay, fine.
I'll be there.
Thank you.
Grant Stinchfield will be there.
Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
Officer Brandon Tatum, probably at that point maybe declared presidential candidate Larry Elder.
No, he's going to declare it on the day, right there.
Well, I think it's going to be real close, so it might be kind of fun, exciting.
Assemblyman Bill Asale, former L.A.
County Sheriff Alex Villanueva, current Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco, current Riverside DA Mike Hestron, Pastor Jack Hibbs, Stephen Moore, our chief economist, he does it, I know he visits with you all the time, Seb, and Ken Timmerman.
It is going to be an exciting, huge lineup, an entire afternoon.
AM590.info to get your tickets.
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And Dennis Prager won't be there, so I'm going to get all the cigars.
That's right.
You get all the cigars.
It's official.
It's official.
Yeah, I don't think Officer... Does Officer Tatum smoke a cigar?
Yes, he does.
Don't worry.
You got the in with me.
I'll hide all the cigars and I'll bring it to you.
Are we going to have an 80s trivia fast round at the end?
Lightning round?
Absolutely.
You want to do that?
We can revisit it.
I think we might have to.
What happened to the sheriff?
Did he lose his position?
Villanueva?
Well, you know, he's so interesting to talk to now because he is pulling no punches.
He is telling you everything you want to know about the corruption in L.A.
County.
He lost to Robert Luna.
Now, on election night, he was ahead by, I think, six, seven points and ended up losing by about 12 because we all know these These long, like three week election periods never do well for people that come out against the establishment.
So he is out.
The Board of Supervisors also put a measure on the ballot that says if they lose faith in the sheriff, even though it's an elected position, they can fire him at any time.
So essentially, now the sheriff of L.A.
County, because of this last election cycle, has to be a puppet for the L.A.
County Board of Supervisors.
But hang on.
I don't know this other guy.
Never heard of him.
Robert Luna.
And Villanueva, I mean, he was like a communications maven, and he was always in the press.
How on earth did he lose?
Yeah, because he had the unions come out against him.
He's actually a Democrat, but he supported law enforcement.
Much of what he did was for common sense and reducing crime.
He was the first person to sign on the recall of George Gascon.
And he'll tell the story, and he'll probably do it at Unite.ie, about how he was the darling of the Democrat Party.
And as soon as he started doing his job, they left him hanging and they got behind Robert Luna for the election.
The unions got behind him.
They dumped a ton of money into his campaign.
And there you go.
So what is he going to do in the future?
I presume he's not going to disappear.
He is not.
He's looking at some options right now.
I actually just had dinner with him last week, and he's thinking about either getting more public, maybe doing something in the communications, radio, TV stuff, or he's thinking about maybe running again, whether it's for some higher office in California in the next couple of years or something else.
All right.
I've got a whole pile of things I want to talk to you about.
There's lots of articles.
Jeff just sent me a sad story about Home Depot employee being shot and killed in California.
But I want to talk industry with you for a second because, you know, I learned so much from you when it comes to radio and you are the hardest working person in radio right now.
Colleagues at townhall.com, Matt Vesper, did you see this story?
Are Democrats and car makers colluding to end conservative talk radio?
Oh yeah, a hundred percent.
So you read the article, it's at townhall.com, but for example Ford, and they're not the only one, Ford are going to kill all the AM receivers in their cars.
Is this a big... Look, I only listen to AM if there's some problem with the FM transmitter, right?
That's the only reason I do, but I know rural areas may be a little different.
Are they trying to take down conservatives because we control talk radio?
You know, I'm so glad that the media is actually, the conservative media is actually picking up on this.
This is something I've been screaming about on my show in Los Angeles for a long time because, as you know, Gavin Newsom wants to put all of us in electric vehicles by 2035.
What electric vehicles have in common with Ford is that none of them have AM radios.
And that puts us out of, that puts us out of business.
You know, the station that I'm on in Los Angeles, both stations are AM stations, AM 870, AM 590.
Much of talk radio is on the AM band still.
And so it's quite disturbing that Gavin Newsom made this push.
And I've been kind of going, wait a second here.
Can't be my mistake, right, that these electric cars don't have AM ratings.
And then when Ford came out and said that they're eliminating AM from their cars, you've got to blow the whistle on this one.
Where is the NAB, the National Association of Broadcasters, they're meeting this week?
They're right now.
They're meeting right now.
Right.
This should absolutely be the top initiative.
And I don't know if you saw, but somebody very big who owns WABC in New York has decided that he is going to start an effort to try to save AM radio.
Is that John Katsimatidis?
Yeah.
Because he knows that this is the future of all of our businesses and it could be gone in four or five years.
You have to wonder what really is at stake.
Is it about eliminating the A.M.
band?
Is it about going someplace different?
Is it about software updates?
Or is it about the added benefit of silencing conservative speech?
So you are actually worried?
I actually am.
I really am.
I don't think it's good for our business.
Now, I do think that our business is evolving quickly.
Our business is going to, you know, Amazon and Google devices and podcasting and streaming and such.
And I think that we, as an industry, need to be doing a good job to keep up with the new technology and the times.
But I don't think that we should just give up on AM radio.
We need to be fighting and talking about this all the time.
I'd love to see the figures or some kind of map of the nation.
Do you have any sense of the numbers of people who rely upon AM and not FM?
I guarantee you, I don't know about relying, because I believe that probably those are pretty low numbers, relying on AM radio.
But I will tell you that the bulk of talk radio programming, conservative talk radio, I would say probably 92%, maybe a little bit less than that, of our talk radio medium is on AM radio.
Let me ask Jeff, because Jeff wasn't so worried.
You don't think this AM story is a big deal like Jen does?
No, because you can get into FM.
In the last 15 years, just about every major sports station has switched over from AM to FM.
But we're talking about political talk.
I know, but I'm saying a lot of the FM stations that are just the pure music are starting to become cheaper to buy.
So, I think that some of these AM stations will start switching over to FM.
It happened in sports in almost every single major city.
You're less worried.
Yes.
I think it depends on, I mean, you look at some of these big radio conglomerates and, you know, it's a struggle to stay in business and to stay relevant.
So to say, well, we're just going to go out and buy some stations, I think that's difficult.
Now, there are a lot of stations that will have, you know, they'll have the digital lineup as well.
So you have FM channel, which will have then digital sub channels.
So there is a possibility that AM radio could move there if some of these radio station groups have FM in the marketplace.
I don't love it.
I don't love any time that they're trying to silence us.
I mean, I listen to radio all the time and podcasts all the time, but when you're driving, that's when you want it.
That's when you want talk radio.
That's right.
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What should we talk about?
We've got some cuts of Stelty saying how amazing he is.
We've got Arnold and his fake pothole.
Oh that was funny.
Karen Bass did her budget with the homeless and I went and did a deep dive on how much money LA's actually spent on the homeless crisis for very little result.
For like a thousand houses they spent like billions of dollars.
Or we could talk about the 1.4 million dollar toilet in San Francisco.
I do love that.
That's one that actually, doesn't it like automatically flush?
It's like in the middle of the city.
That's a good one.
Let's do, let's do, let's do a bit of stealthy.
A bit of Arnold.
And I love that they're, the Dianne Feinstein stuff has been so funny too.
What is she like clinging on for dead?
She's like 422.
But you know what?
They're trying to force her out, and it is hysterical that they've got Joe Biden in the White House while they try to force her out.
It's like... Can you play cut eight, please?
There will be no repeat of the Arizona race call.
Telling the truth is too risky.
The GOP-ers who used to be responsible party officials are cowering to Trump.
Key election boards are, to borrow a word, rigged.
The country is on pins and needles.
Landlords board up downtown windows.
Maybe looting starts.
Shooting starts.
I'm not saying that all of this will happen, but I'm saying it could.
It already did.
And also, it's pretty clear- I'm saying it could.
I was just going to say, Jen, I think it's obvious they want to force Feinstein out because then Newsom gets to appoint a successor who then has- Totally, they want to put in Barbara Lee.
How do you do that with Fetterman today, too?
Wouldn't he be pushed out before?
Did you see his speech today?
It was like ramble sitting.
Yeah, we played it.
And that's a bill he sponsored, supposedly, when he was in the hospital.
Yeah, right.
You said they want Barbara Lee, Jen?
Well, Gavin Newsom promised.
So Ro Khanna is the one who's leading the fight to get her out.
And Ro Khanna is running Barbara Lee's campaign now because he decided not to run himself.
And Newsom is on record promising that he would appoint a black woman.
The connection is that she would have the inside track.
Because then, like, Pelosi and all them endorse Schiff, though.
Of course.
Yeah.
And it would be, but it would be really hard for Newsom to explain picking Schiff when he promised to appoint a black woman.
I love when they box themselves into a corner with this identity politics nonsense.
And it happens to them every time, but they never learn.
Yep.
As long as it's not Katie Porter, she's the worst, I think.
How about the mashed potatoes on the husband's head?
I didn't see that.
You didn't see that?
Oh my god, Katie Porter has been accused by her ex-husband of putting a bowl of steaming hot potatoes over his bald head.
Wow.
Didn't she threaten to take his cell phone away or something?
Yeah, she said, you're too blanking stupid to have this cell phone, and she took it away from him.
But it all fits her brand.
Yeah.
I don't believe anything.
Oh, but it's fun though.
Isn't it Jeff?
Come on.
PhD.
I'm in a shouty mood today.
Shouting.
I feel like doing an auction.
Why'd you have some Nutella?
It's too oily.
It's very oily.
You are such a complainy whiny little girl.
It's a chocolate in name only.
It's too oily.
Chocolate in name only.
15. 15.
News and talk radio is still really popular, even in the Internet age.
What you are about to hear them say is mind-boggling.
Here's looking at you, Snowflake.
America First.
Dude, it doesn't take much to boggle your mind, little stealthy boy.
The Nutella Wars continue here on America First.
I will never surrender.
Nutella is the food of the gods.
But I can't eat too much of it.
Why?
Cause I love how I look after my PhD weight loss.
Dr. Ashley Lucas is a miracle worker.
42 pounds after 20 years of trying to lose the weight.
My wife Katie lost 36 and she's ecstatic.
Do you have a little bit too much around the middle?
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We will have a ceasefire in the Nutella Wars for the meantime.
We will get back to the news with our darling West Coast Warrior Princess, Jennifer Horne, who we will be on the same stage very, very soon.
Where do we begin?
Let's talk about... Oh, let's have some fun with Stealthy Boy!
So...
Stelter was back on TV and he was talking about how amazing the place was that fired him.
It's a little embarrassing, a little cringy.
Cut seven.
Do you think you represented the kind of opinion, particularly from the left, that Chris Licht wanted to distance himself from?
Because I think that's why he ended up letting you go.
Well, I'm just going to let you say it then.
Yeah.
I think we were doing really fantastic journalism at CNN for the nine years that I was there.
I also think Fox News really enjoyed making me a target and making, you know, using horrible names about me and all that sort of stuff that happens in the cable news wars.
I appreciate that shows like yours rise above that.
I was an excellent journalist and it's all Fox News' fault.
They enjoyed making me into a target.
And I think they enjoyed seeing me leave CNN.
I was an excellent journalist and it's all Fox News' fault.
Do you believe him, Jen?
Not to believe him.
And could there be more of a beta male on this planet?
I do not know.
I think he wins the award for that.
He made himself a target with all of the ridiculousness.
And I love how people try to vilify conservative media.
You know, we take what you say there, Brian, and we might just make people pay attention to it because you get away with it at places like CNN.
So you get called out.
Let's do that.
Let's do that right now.
I asked Jeff to find the most absurd cut he could, and that was hard.
There will be no repeat of the Arizona race call.
Telling the truth is too risky.
The GOPers, who used to be responsible party officials, are cowering to Trump.
before the election.
And it's rather amusing.
Cut eight.
There will be no repeat of the Arizona race call.
Telling the truth is too risky.
The GOPers who used to be responsible party officials are cowering to Trump.
Key election boards are, to borrow, rigged.
Or borrow word.
Rigged.
The country is on pins and needles.
Landlords board up downtown windows.
Maybe looting starts, shooting starts.
I'm not saying that all of this will happen, but I'm saying it could.
So this is what makes him a journalist.
He talks about the Republicans doing the looting and the shooting, Jen.
Yeah, that's not quite what we do.
No, I think he might have it backwards.
And I also think it's really interesting that he's questioning why he was let go from CNN when he's talking about fake results to an election that hasn't happened yet.
I mean, if you want to know why you're not there, Brian, you probably have to look in the mirror and say, you know, maybe it's not a great idea to say that businesses are boarded up after the 20th.
Give me a break.
I mean, we have enough real stuff to cover in the news.
We don't need him making things up.
But it's CNN, or it was CNN for him.
That's what they do.
Right.
Let's move from fake news to fake potholes.
The screw your freedom former governor of California has been caught doing something rather embarrassing, has he not?
This is my favorite story.
I don't know, probably of the year because you've got a couple of characters involved that are just fun to make fun of.
And that is the governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger.
And then you have, of course, the LADWP, which is our Department of Water and Power.
So apparently, according to Arnold, He said that there was a pesky pothole that was out in front of his house and that he and his neighbors were really upset about it and the city had just left it and they weren't coming back to fix it.
So he went out there, of course, camera in hand, so he could put it up on social media to show people that he was doing the right thing and that he was filling the pothole.
Well, CBS, our local CBS affiliate, comes out and says, wait a second here.
And they were told, by the way, to their credit, they were told by the LADWP, that what he filled was actually not a pothole.
It was actually a service trench.
And then it had set back their work, I guess, for several weeks.
Well, Schwarzenegger comes out and he goes, oh, no, no.
And that was delicious, right?
We go to town making fun of Schwarzenegger for filling it a service trench.
But then it comes out that the LADWP actually wasn't being honest, that it was a service trench, but that they really did leave it behind.
And so Schwarzenegger, I guess, filling it in.
I don't know if it just made them embarrassed that they got called out, but the whole story is just is goofy and delicious.
And it just shows just how crazy Los Angeles is, where these holes just sit in the middle of the street for months and months and months and months.
And we pay so much to live here.
It's goofy and delicious, just like Nutella.
Exactly.
Just like that.
If that's your favorite story, I have to know where this ranks.
I still can't believe it.
The headline from Hot Air.
San Francisco brought the cost down of a single public toilet to From 1.7 million dollars to 1.4.
That's not true, right?
It can't be real.
That's amazing.
I mean, think about that.
Cost-cutting budget consciousness.
One toilet.
Really, we're doing God's work here in California.
1.7 million down to 1.4 million.
Have you seen this toilet, Seb?
I think so.
Describe it.
Does it have like a helicopter pad and a sauna on it or what?
A bidet for everybody, for all those people in San Francisco.
So they put in this public toilet that's supposed to, I guess, keep people kind of moving.
It's supposed to stay clean.
It looks very robotic in the middle of the street.
But like everything else in San Francisco, why California or why San Francisco would think a good investment would be to dump a bunch of money into a public restroom in the city of San Francisco when everything is going to pot.
I mean, come on.
San Francisco is it's decimated now.
It is not the beautiful city that it once was.
You've got crime and drugs.
You've got all kinds of things on the streets.
And they put in this $1.4 million toilet that is supposed to be like self flushing and all that.
Just bring in an Andy Gump.
I think it's it.
Let's just save some money here.
But do people, again I find myself asking this question quite often with you, are the people of California, aren't they enraged when they hear stuff like this?
I wish.
You know, I don't know if the people of San Francisco have said this is ridiculous, but the amount of spending that this government does, like on ludicrous stuff.
I was telling you a little bit off the air this week, our mayor released our budget and I was looking at the budget and I saw that 10% of the budget is going to the homeless crisis.
I thought, well, that's kind of weird.
We just raised our sales tax to build these houses.
Do you know what the average cost per tiny home that was built by Los Angeles is?
No. $800,000.
So spending a million dollars on a toilet, it seems like just par for the course.
I mean, think about that.
And it's because they give all of these contracts to people that help support them and these NGOs, these non-governmental organizations, who don't have any experience.
Insane.
But we're going to do something about it.
We're going to be there next Saturday with a whole panoply of conservative rock stars.
And Jen and Grant are going to be the hosts.
At a million dollar toilet.
Really?
No, that's fake news.
That's fake news.
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Nutella.
I'm gonna try it.
This illy coffee is delicious.
I'm like a convert now.
Good stuff.
I'll try the Nutella.
And I have to read something to you.
Yeah.
Because Dan Dan, our producer man, Dan Dan, the producer man, on The Morning Answer is obviously board-opping for KRLA right now.
He says, if you can tell Dr. G that that was an amazing transition into the PhD weight loss spot.
I, you know, sometimes, sometimes, you know, it works.
I have to tell you something.
I was talking to my buddies from the UK who were here who were on the show.
I still cringe when I have to do embeds.
You know why?
I grew up on radio.
You know me.
From age 6, I was listening to radio.
And in England, never in the history of mankind has a host read a commercial.
It's never happened.
Really?
You're not allowed.
The host is the host, and then somebody is paid to do the read.
Wow.
So it feels weird to you?
I mean, I still feel weird.
When I came here, and I remember the first day I tuned in to Mark Levin, and I heard him do an embed, I thought, what?
Did the ad guy get killed?
Did the guy die?
I mean, what's going on?
I'm still getting used to it four years later.
But sometimes you have that help of the Nutella.
There you go.
You just got props from Daniel who listens very, very carefully.
Thank you, Dan Dan.
All right.
See you soon.
Okay, see you soon.
See you next Saturday and talk next week.
Bye guys.
Bye.
All righty.
Title for that one.
Something about Nutella and iced coffee.
The nut, the America first Nutella wars.
I'm over here like Swiss chocolate.
I'm neutral because I just As long as you don't like dark chocolate.
I'm not a fan.
It's too... It's too... It's too... Guy, what kind of chocolate do you like?
I like all kinds of chocolate.
But do you like dark chocolate?
Not particularly.
Well, then you don't like all chocolate.
What do you think about white chocolate?
I like white chocolate.
Okay.
I like white chocolate.
Can you block?
One thing I would like to share is the taste of Nutella is a taste from heaven.
It is!
You're absolutely right!
Promote that man!
It is.
Nutella is a taste from heaven.
Fudge is a death trap, though, because it's so good, but if you have too much of it, you will feel sick.
I can't eat fudge.
Fudge, for me, is like... It's just pure... It's like eating a bar of sugar.
Yes!
My wife, Kaylee, loves it.
I don't get it.
It's like sucking on a big piece of sugar.
I loved it as a kid.
There was this amazing mint chocolate fudge in the coastal town we would go to all the time.
Oh, it was just like a taste of heaven.
It was so good.
Even as a little kid, I'm like, yeah, this is not good for me.
One minute.
We're talking about important things today.
Important things.
Chocolate Wars Culper 777 in the chat says white chocolate is not chocolate and it's racist Dear, oh dear, oh dear.
We have triggered somebody!
I like white chocolate better than dark chocolate.
I don't know if that makes me racist.
But it depends which white chocolate.
Some white chocolates don't have enough flavor.
Some white chocolates don't have enough flavor.
Dr. G is ready for anything on America First. - I know.
I like that.
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Jazz it up a little bit.
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I want to just cover a couple of stories before we get to your calls.
Don't go anywhere.
Ray, Randy, Victor and Chad.
Interesting, interesting and disappointing as well.
A poll from The Economist, YouGov, finds that one third of society say that the transgender acceptance has gone too far.
That figure should be far higher.
However, when it comes to Twitter and transgender insanity, Eric, you've written a piece that's rather interesting, is it not?
Mr. Musk has changed policy at Twitter.
Yep, Elon is coming through for us once again.
As of Tuesday, Twitter made modifications to its Hateful Conduct Policy, which previously banned users from deadnaming trans people or misgendering them.
For those who aren't familiar, deadnaming is when you use a person's real name.
It shouldn't be called deadname, it should be called realnaming.
So, you know, you don't call her Jenna, you call him Bruce Jenna, right?
What does he call himself?
Caitlyn, right?
Bruce calls himself Caitlyn Jenner.
Right, so deadnaming would be calling him Bruce.
Well, no, no, no.
Now you're allowed to call them by their true name.
What do you think of this?
It's pretty significant, no?
I think it's a huge deal, yeah.
I mean, Musk promised he was going to move Twitter more in a pro-free speech direction, and there's nothing more important right now, I mean, in terms of free speech, than this battle that says, like, no, if you simply use the wrong pronoun, kids will be punished in school, you could face criminal charges in some countries for it.
It's ridiculous.
Yeah, absolutely.
Alright, good stuff.
Thank you for that update.
Good news and bad news.
Let's go to Livermore.
Line one.
Ray.
Hey, Dr. G. Hey.
Can you hear me?
I can.
Hey, I called about the AM radio, but I gotta put this in real quick.
Gin was filling in for you last week.
Yes, on Friday when I went and had to go to a memorial service, yep.
I forgot to ask you a question.
Or I wanted to ask her a question.
And maybe you can do this for me.
Can you ask her to introduce me to Captain Kirk?
Because I'd sure like to meet him too.
Dude.
Is that all?
Is that all you want?
That's all.
Just the small things.
Why do I have to be the middle man?
Why aren't you calling her show?
Well, it was busy.
When she was on earlier, it was busy.
I would have asked her directly.
When I see her next weekend, I'll whisper in her ear.
Yeah, I love it.
So, AM Radio, I'm listening to you on a Sony Walkman that's attached to my belt.
Hang on, hang on.
I need to know, because I love old tech, what is the vintage of your Sony Walkman, Ray?
Oh gosh, it's called an M. What is it called?
So it's an OG one.
If it's an M series, it's like the 80s or 90s.
Yeah, yeah.
And I occasionally find them online used for 20 or 30 bucks and I buy them every time I see them.
Is it a radio only or does it have an old tape deck?
Nope, this one's just AM FM and I got another model that has the weather.
You can punch weather.
You are so cool, dude.
You are a man after my own heart.
So for you, this is a big deal with the threat to AM.
I'm in earthquake country and we get EBS and emergency broadcast systems over it and we need redundant systems.
Dr. G, I have landlines.
They call them copper wire.
No, I do too.
I demanded when we moved to our new house, I said I want a bloody copper wire line because what happens when cell service goes down?
That's right.
And the routing... Now, here's the problem, and I want to say to the listeners, this is very important.
When you route your whole life through your phone, when that phone is gone, stolen or lost, you've lost everything, so you need redundant systems.
Don't put your whole life through your phone.
And AM radio, when it's forced through apps and phones and online services, guess what?
They can throttle you, Dr. G. Well, look, hang on, hang on.
That's the whole point with the digital dollar.
Right?
If your money is just bits and dots, right, and bites, they can shut it down whenever they want.
There you go.
And I've got one more point.
You've got 20 seconds.
Very good.
The guy who did this spot before you took over was a guy named Michael Medved.
He had a day once a month called Conspiracy Day.
And he would let people call in with the wildest ideas and then he would swat them down one by one.
Really?
I've heard you do this before also.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Medved did that once a month.
Yeah, on full moon.
I love it.
People will call in.
Yeah, it was a wonderful, fun day.
Oh, love it.
And my conspiracy day with solar panels, when Barack Obama was putting solar panels on everybody's houses, it's destroying AM radio in all of those homes, Dr. G. That's my conspiracy theory.
All right, dude.
I love it.
I might have to see if we can revivify, resurrect that.
In the meantime, I thank you, Ray.
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Sorry, Rumble listeners.
Yeah, no mics are on.
Oh, we'll have them off when he calls in.
There we go.
Nice.
DC42 in the chat can tell you guys which song that was.
Why do you have to apologize to the Rumble listeners?
Because they couldn't hear the music.
Why?
It's wrong!
It's Radio Gaga from Queen, the greatest band known to man.
I'm curious about your thoughts on that.
Is Queen's greatness almost entirely due to Freddie Mercury or are the other band members also?
No, 84.5% is Freddie.
And then Brian May is one of the greatest guitarists known to man.
I give him about 12 percent.
Okay.
And then Roger Deakin and you know Taylor are pretty good.
But no it is it is like 90 percent.
Watch the Live Aid.
It's funny we were discussing this yesterday.
Watch the Live Aid performance and then do a search on what Elton John said to the Rolling Stones behind the scenes.
He said He stormed into the dressing room and he screamed, they're stealing the whole show.
Everybody who existed back then, The Stones, The Who, David Bowie, Elton John performed on that day.
Who do they only talk about now?
Queen.
The only band they talk about is Queen because he stood there and he had 70,000 people in the palm of his hand for an hour.
Drenched in sweat with like multiple glasses of beer on the piano.
And nobody can touch him.
Nobody.
The crazy boy from Zanzibar.
That's why, again, I like Pink Floyd because all their talents are distributed a little more equally.
I mean, you know, Gilmore is an amazing guitarist.
Mason is great on the drums.
And of course, Waters, again, a psychopath, but also a musical genius.
So, yeah.
Yeah, no, Queen, Freddie... Freddie is, you know, the ultimate showman.
Ultimate showman.
And that's why I'm really pissed that they've got this new guy.
He's not answering.
We're responding.
Is he responding?
No.
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We'll put it down near the end.
This is Senator Hawley in front of Mayorkas, the Secretary of Homeland Security, and he brings it and it's about time.
Cut three.
I look forward to discussing this issue further because you are misstating the facts so terribly.
I am reading you the facts from articles in the news and your usual modus operandi is what you're doing again today was just to deny, deny, deny.
Why have you permitted 345,000 children to come into this country unaccompanied?
Why have you permitted thousands of them to be abused and exploited?
Senator, what we do is we enforce the law, but let me just say this.
But you're not!
It is stunning to me, stunning, to hear you say that the prior administration reunited children with their parents.
Oh, I see.
So this is their fault?
You're not going to take any responsibility?
For the indentured servitude and exploitation of children that is happening on your watch a moment ago, you were crowing about the fact that you treated children so well, and yet we find tens of thousands of children who are forced to work as slaves because of your policies, and you turn around and blame a prior administration.
Mr. Secretary, this is par for the course for you.
You do it every time you appear before this committee.
You do it every time you appear before Congress.
I, for one, am sick and tired of it, and thousands of children are in physical danger.
Danger!
Because of what you are doing.
He brought the heat, and God bless Senator Hawley.
A man who was responsible for the prior system, that was saving children.
Well, let's just introduce him.
Former director of ICE, a good friend of America First, Tom Holman.
Welcome back.
Thanks for having me, son.
There's nothing that more can be said.
I mean, let me just ask you the obvious question.
Alejandro Mayorkas, he knows what he's doing to those women and children, doesn't he, Tom?
He absolutely does.
Look, he didn't want to talk about family separation.
Let me make something clear.
It was called zero tolerance.
We want to prosecute parents in the hopes that they'll stop smuggling their children, putting their children in the hands of criminal cartels.
And so it wasn't about separation.
It was about General Towson.
Guess what?
What no one's talking about is that it was effective.
Within 30 days, crossings were down nearly 40%.
Now, no one wants to see a family separated.
But he's talking about, you know, what, 2,500 total prosecutions for the separations.
There's been almost 300,000 children separated from their families that come across this border.
This administration says if you cross the border, you're a child.
You won't be sent back to Title 42.
You won't be sent back to your country.
You are in.
And we're going to put you in the ORR, we're going to put you in a nice facility, and we're going to deliver you, deliver you to your parents or sponsors, Who hired a criminal organization to bring you into the country?
You know, someone needs to explain to me how that's better.
To put your child in the hands of a criminal cartel to be smuggled across the river or through the desert.
What is the magnitude?
You're talking to millions of people right now, live across the country, who aren't all living along the border.
What is the size?
What is the magnitude?
Forget the fentanyl deaths that come afterwards, but just the magnitude of the human suffering caused by Mallorcas and Biden having open borders.
Give them an idea.
Look, we've had approximately 1,700 migrants.
Have died on your soil.
That is a record by far.
Nothing even close.
1700 migrants.
If you're drunk in the river, died in the desert, abandoned and later died.
And these what we know about said these are ones we've actually found, right?
I was in Brooks County Jail.
We're going to show up down.
They said they're lucky to find one out of four because by the time I find they're usually eaten or separated by animals and the people are drawn river.
Sometimes you never find them.
So a record number of migrants have died under Joe bite.
A record number of Americans have died from fentanyl poisoning because the open border and the fentanyl is coming across the border.
A record number of sex trafficking cases of women and children.
In other trafficking cases, we've had at least six investigations where children were found.
For one example, children are smuggled across the border, working in a meatpacking plant, cleaning up entrails at the Midnight Ships in Ocasio and getting paid nothing.
The tragedy, a record number of American deaths, a record number of migrant deaths.
A record number of known suspected terrorists entering our country across the southwest border.
The cartels are making a record amount of money.
There's no, there's no upside in this at all.
The tragedy, this is, and let me tell you something, with 171 known suspected terrorists being arrested, 1.4 million gotaways from 171 different countries, some of those countries sponsor terrorism.
If you don't take a single one of that 1.4, We've got a minute left.
We need you back at DHS, back at ICE.
We need President Trump back in the White House.
idiot.
This is the biggest national security failure in the history of this nation.
I hate saying that.
Someday we're going to find out it's gonna be a bad day for America just how many got in.
We've got a minute left.
We need you back at DHS, back at ICE.
We need President Trump back in the White House.
Is there anything that the Senate and the House could do in the meantime?
Well first of all I was with the president last night and we had the same conversation He comes back, I come back.
We'll lock the border down in 90 days.
I was with him last night over dinner.
And what's the Senate House going to do?
They're going to impeach Mayorkas.
Get a backbone and impeach the man.
You impeach President Trump for making a phone call, but you're now going to impeach Secretary Mayorkas for lying under oath numerous times, committing perjury in front of the American people.
And what he's done is borderline treasonous.
Record number of Americans have died from drug overdoses from the borders open.
Record number of migrants have died.
Just under 300,000 children were smuggled into the country by criminal cartels.
He hasn't earned the right to be impeached for ignoring the law.
Not only ignoring the law, violating the law.
We've sued him eight different times.
I've written affidavits for Arizona, Florida, Missouri.
We're 8-0.
And judges have said, not only is this secretary violating the law, he needs to be held accountable to these laws.
Impeach the man, he deserves it.
I didn't know when we invited you on that you were talking to the boss last night.
So glad that you are planning with him.
We need you back to secure the border.
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Mayorkas in the title will probably be something that gets eyeballs, just to roast him again.
Thank you. .
Mayorkas is responsible for their deaths.
Wow, this is funny.
I didn't even know that.
What?
Kyle Serafin's dad was the chief negotiator for the Waco siege.
Interesting.
Very interesting.
Did you watch the Netflix documentary about the Boston bombing?
No, I watched the Waco one.
I watched the Waco one.
Is the Boston bombing one new?
Yeah, it came out last week.
And?
It's alright.
The first one they spend a bunch of time about how everyone jumps to conclusions that it was like Islamic terrorism.
But basically that's what it was.
Which is unbelievable, yeah.
It defers to the government, right?
The Boston, like, chief of police, him versus the FBI guy, they were totally at odds the whole time.
And why?
What did the Boston police chief say?
Everything right, and the FBI guy was a typical FBI guy that had no idea.
Like, didn't want to release the pictures and all that stuff, and... some other things, too.
I was in high school, but I remember it.
I was in high school, but I remember it.
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I actually went to the nab.org website and found a handful of articles talking about how Americans depend on AM radio.
Didn't really get specifically into conservative broadcasters, but there was a link to another website called wearebroadcasters.com where they do have a petition that you can sign that will go out to your local state officials.
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Hey, Sebastian.
I depend a lot on AM radio in general because I'm blind and that's where I get all my communications.
I turned it into a hobby of DXing, where I look for distant stations and it's fun to see what I can find on AM and FM.
What is DXing, trying to find the furthest AM station?
Pardon?
What is DXing?
That's looking for distant stations.
Wow.
My favorite all-time catch was I pulled in an FM station from Newfoundland a few years back.
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Hey, I was watching the ship that we sent in the Taiwan Strait the other day, the guided missile destroyer Milius.
Yes.
It made me think, that's not named after John Milius.
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We sit on this side of the house because we know that the way to improve the world is to work, is to create, it is to build.
And the problem with woke culture is that it's trained too many young minds like yours.
I remember the debate club.
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One man who has done his most for exactly that purpose is the person you just heard at the Oxford Union in a speech, a short speech, that actually they talk a lot about viral clips.
This one became viral and he is half of an amazing duo of podcasters, the best podcast Outside of America.
It's called Trigonometry.
Konstantin Kissy and Francis Foster.
Welcome back in studio.
It's good to be back.
It's good to be back.
Seb, thank you for having us.
This is like the US tour return.
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We're back and better than ever.
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All right, so much to discuss.
Don't know how we're going to squeeze it into the next hour.
First things first, that viral video where you took on wokeism.
How many views has it had by now?
It's hard to say.
Somewhere between 100 and 200 million views, I think, across all platforms.
Why?
Because I think we are not used to hearing adults tell children or young people the truth and we've become a society that's very uncomfortable with that.
I also think we've become a society that, you know, we chastise each other and we talk at each other.
I was talking to them and trying to engage them in thinking about these things rationally and logically.
Uh, instead of having a meltdown and screaming and shouting and just being outraged.
And again, I don't think we see a lot of that.
So I think the attempt to persuade is what made people interested in seeing that.
All right, you can find the full speech at the top of my Twitter, Facebook feeds.
Please watch it if you haven't.
We'll discuss.
More of what Constantine has done recently, especially the paperback version of his first book.
But for those who are not familiar with my buddies, it really is a superb podcast, the likes of which you won't find anywhere else.
And maybe it has to do with your background, because you're not the average TV, radio, podcasting hosts.
Talk to us a little bit about your background.
What did you do before you were a podcaster, Francis?
So I was on the comedy circuit for 12 years.
I was also a school teacher.
I taught secondary theatre.
And then I retrained and became a primary school teacher for six years.
So that gave me a real grounding and a real insight into real life.
You know, because most comedians, they don't experience real life.
They go into comedy and then they're in the world of club comedy, the comedy circuit, where it's awash with progressive, ultra-liberal politics, which has nothing really to do with real life or the ordinary lives of most people.
So why did you decide to leave that?
I mean, that is a career track and most people work for decades with minimal success, but it's a lifestyle driving from gig to gig to gig, the clubs.
You guys tore off that, decided to have a YouTube show with an interesting name, Trigonometry with two G's.
How did that come about?
Um, because, well, number one is that comedy ceased to be a meritocracy.
I remember in 2016, I went to the Edinburgh Festival, now 2016 in the Edinburgh Festival.
Which is a huge cultural festival, one of the biggest in the world.
Yeah, absolutely.
It is the biggest in the world.
And it was post-Brexit, post-Trump.
And I remember just walking around and watching shows and then reading the reviews to the shows and going, this doesn't correspond.
The people who are being talked about as the next big thing It doesn't make any sense.
You were seeing the shows, and then what you were reading in the reviews did not gel.
Yeah, it did not gel, it did not correspond, and then that's the point where I understood that we weren't living in a meritocracy in the comedy industry.
It was far more important your identity and your political views than the content of your content, shall we just say.
And to follow the prescribed menu.
Yes, and you had to follow the prescribed opinions, and you had to espouse the correct view of the world.
And if you didn't, then you simply wouldn't progress.
You would be doing fine on the club circuit, but if you wanted a breakthrough to TV, to radio, to make a name for yourself, to have your own audience through the mainstream industry, that simply wasn't going to happen.
So you launched Trigonometry and then there was a moment where, with your bloody-mindedness, Constantine, you made big news nationally.
What was that triggering moment that got attention to you and the podcast?
Well, what happened was, shortly after we started the show, I was invited to do a comedy gig at a college, a small college in London.
And they said that in order to perform... By the way, they asked me to raise money for charity and they sent me a contract saying we have a zero-tolerance policy on racism, sexism, classism, ageism, ableism, homophobia, biphobia, transphobia, xenophobia, islamophobia, anti-religion... No, this is now a skit.
It became a skit, pretty much.
But these are the things they listed?
Anti-atheism.
And it also said that all jokes must be respectful and kind.
This was in writing?
This is in writing.
And you can't perform a comedy act unless you acquiesce?
Unless you sign this.
What did you do?
And I just turned it down.
I tweeted about it to what was about a thousand people at the time.
And I think people were so shocked by what happened that it went super viral.
And it went viral on the day in our country when the Prime Minister, the leader of the country, was nearly removed from office by her own party.
That would be the equivalent of the Democrats impeaching, nearly impeaching Joe Biden right now.
And the second biggest story on CNN and Fox.
About a comedian.
Is some idiot comedian no one's ever heard of from some tiny little college not doing the gig.
So it showed us at the time that massive numbers of people now are concerned about what they can and can't say in the public space.
And I talk about it in the book, all the research shows.
Oh, did you see that?
The book.
All right, let's put it up here.
He is so good.
He's almost American.
Smooth.
It's Constantine Kissin.
An amazing book.
I was given the hard copy issue.
It is an immigrant's love letter to the West.
Just out in paperback.
Highly, highly recommend it.
For the same reason the Oxford Union debate was so useful.
That it kind of talks to those who don't need to be convinced that we're on the right side.
It's not for the quiet.
It's those who are in the middle.
Okay, sorry, I was interrupting you.
This thing goes viral the same day that the Prime Minister's also removed.
And I'm gonna jump straight forward because we've been talking for, I don't know, like...
30 hours already.
You arrived a few days ago, late dinners, chats over cigars, and it seemed as if even the name of the podcast indicates that this is about anti-wokery, right?
This idea of triggered.
However, I get the sense that you've been doing this now for five years, and it's more than just the woke problem, or you're tired of the woke problem.
Well, that was never actually our intention.
I can see why people think... Well, the name would indicate it.
But this is where the misunderstanding comes in, because for us, you've got to remember, we were working in a very progressive comedy industry, and the name is actually a trigger warning in itself.
What we're trying to say is, you may find this offensive.
You may find our discussions difficult, but that is the point of Okay.
So rather than this being about triggering the libs of the snowflakes, we never use those terms, we try to create a space where we can discuss very difficult things to discuss that people find genuinely challenging and they can't, you know, we live in a world now where people struggle to hear arguments they don't agree with.
Right.
And that was always the intention behind it.
I understand why people misunderstand it as we see it, but we were always Of course.
Look, let's be clear.
Wokeness is dangerous.
It's damaging.
It's stupid.
It's counterproductive.
It doesn't help the very people it claims to help, including minorities and immigrants like me.
I'm a first-generation immigrant into the UK.
It is bad.
But I also think the reaction can go too far as well.
And that's why we try to bring people together by talking about difficult and controversial issues in a way that people can hear.
And what is the line you introduce the show with every time you're here to do what?
Talk to...
Honest conversations with fascinating people.
Honest conversations with fascinating people.
So, a breadth.
I mean, the breadth, the span of people you have is so heterogeneous.
Yes.
So, for example, we will talk to everyone from a former UFC welterweight contender for the title, to a neuroscientist, to economists, to political analysts, to journalists, to comedians.
Because what we're interested in, Seb, is talking to people Who are honest, who have integrity, and have a slightly different way of viewing the world.
That can add to our own knowledge.
Primarily, this started because we wanted to find out what was really going on in our country.
And it started with Brexit.
Because the moment Brexit happened, We were fed the narrative, this is stupid, thick, white, ignorant, racist people.
Old racist people, old white men in particular.
And I remember listening to the narrative and thinking, this doesn't make sense.
My mother is a Latin American immigrant, came to the UK 40 years ago, she voted Brexit.
My father is a working class guy from the north of England who married a woman of colour, even though I hate that term, in the 70s when it was neither fashionable nor cool, and in fact wasn't accepted.
Yet he voted Brexit.
So there was something far more interesting happening here than the simplistic narrative that we were being fed.
And that's what led to the start of the show.
The skit about his mom voting for Brexit is one of Francis' best.
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I'm going to flip topics around a little bit, guys, so I'll do Russia a little bit later on.
No, sorry, I'm going to do the Chappelle stuff later on.
I'll do the Russia stuff now.
Now, one of the other things that you have established a kind of side career on of late, sadly, because of the events of the last 14 months, Konstantin, is helping people understand what's going on in Russia and in Ukraine.
Because you were born in the Soviet Union, correct?
I was.
And you're married to someone from Ukraine.
And my mom is Ukrainian, too.
And you have family in Ukraine.
And in Russia.
And in Russia.
So you become a commentator on these issues, and one of the most useful things you do is, which is like rule number one, you read the statements in Russian that are coming out of, for example, the Kremlin.
You tell people, there might be a spin to the left, there might be a spin to the right, but this is what Putin said, let's listen to that.
What is, perhaps, give us a couple of things that are least well understood about the 14 months that we've witnessed.
Whether it's the reality in Kiev, whether it's who Vladimir Putin is, what are the most incorrect conventional wisdoms that you have been trying to correct as a person from Russia with family in the Ukraine?
Well, I think one of the things that I've been concerned about is that people in the West don't seem to understand that cultures are different.
And so they look at what Russia is doing and they imagine themselves in that position and they think, well, this is what would make me invade a neighbouring country.
And so they have to make up things like, you know, Putin was provoked, Ukrainians are Nazis, and all this stuff, to make themselves understand what's actually happening, because they can't conceive of an imperialist expansionist country like Russia.
And a guy who's been in power, by the way, Seb, as you know, since 1999, right?
So he sees himself as a successor to Peter the Great, the man who built Russia as an empire.
I'm not a Democrat.
Surprisingly so.
And so, the thing that people, I think, don't understand is that it's quite possible for people in other parts of the world to think, you know, it is to my personal benefit, to my glory, it is in my interest to do this.
To use violence against innocent people.
Exactly.
If it fulfills my personal ambitions and those of the country.
Because Russia is seeking, among other things, to control the Black Sea.
That's why it wanted Crimea in the first place.
And expansion into Ukraine is essentially a rebuilding of the Russian Empire.
And there's absolutely no doubt.
I mean, Vladimir Putin has made it clear time and time again that Ukraine is a country that should not exist.
It's illegitimate, according to him.
Yeah, and it was Russian lands given away by weak men, and so on and so forth.
So I think one of the mistakes people make is that they don't realize that people in different parts of the world think differently to them about these issues.
Yeah, this is the first thing I always used to tell to any audience from the intelligence community.
One of the biggest problems you have as an American intelligence analyst is mirror imaging.
You think Americans do something like this, therefore that Pashtun tribesman in Afghanistan is going to do the same way.
No.
Cultures matter.
Fascinating conversations offline in the last couple of days about conspiracy theories and you were saying some very interesting things Francis Help me out here share a little summary of what we were discussing in terms of why we have this Rampant conspiracy theory Well, number one is, and this is particularly true in the UK, we don't teach critical thinking skills in the UK.
savior of Christianity.
There seems to be a dearth of critical thought on left and right.
Why are people so incapable of asking good questions and just instead they glom on to some spurious crazy ideas?
Well, number one is, and this is particularly true in the UK, we don't teach critical thinking skills in the UK.
We don't teach critical thinking skills to children.
It's something that we consider unimportant, particularly in the UK when it comes to educating children.
We teach to test, so it's very much spoon feeding.
Teach somebody to pass the test.
Exactly.
So you spoon feed information to kids, you make sure that they cram as much as possible, they go into the test, they regurgitate said opinions, they get an A, A style, B or whatever it is.
The school looks great, the kid then moves on happy as Larry.
You know, you go, "Well, what's the problem with that?" Well, there's a very real problem with that because you're not teaching children to investigate.
You're not teaching children to criticize, and most importantly, you're not teaching children to think for themselves.
That child will become an adult, and when that child becomes an adult, that is going to be a very real problem.
Because when they get information that is false or biased, they don't have the skills to investigate it for themselves and come to their own mind.
And then there's the second part of it, Seb, which is in the world of social media, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, we're all becoming far more narcissistic because social media is all about yourself.
It's focusing on yourself, your experiences.
And people who agree with you.
And people who agree with you.
And you create an echo chamber.
And when you become narcissistic, if you think about Conspiracy theories.
It's a form of narcissism.
Yeah, explain that.
You made that point.
Explain that.
Well, because the conspiracy theorist goes, everything that's happening in the world, people don't get it.
People don't understand.
But actually, I'm the person who understands.
I'm the person.
I'm special.
I'm special.
I'm able to see through all the nonsense, all the rhetoric, and get to the very core of this.
And you sheeple, you don't understand.
Yeah, that's very good.
And this isn't an excuse, Constantine, but when it comes to these conspiracy theories on the left and right, how much is it an understandable consequence of not skepticism but cynicism from the Gulf War on down?
That, you know, we've been lied to incessantly by our governments for at least 20 years, so if something is reported, it's got to be a lie.
Well, I had a thread on Twitter go super viral during COVID, which I've made into a chapter in the book in which I talk about this.
And look, you can go back to the Gulf War, but I don't think we were quite in the place then that we are now.
I think it's been since 2016 because, you know, we talked earlier about Brexit or Donald Trump.
When you have these lies rammed down your throat day in, day out, and look, at some point you believe them.
For example, the Russia collusion stuff.
I will be honest with you.
When I was on the comedy circuit, I had a great routine.
But did you believe it?
I did at the time.
I did at the time.
I had this joke about how an American said to me, Russians don't understand democracy.
And I went, got Trump elected, didn't we?
But now we know that was complete nonsense.
So if you buy into something as passionately as people did in many of these things, and then it later turns out, and look at what we saw during COVID.
I mean, lie after lie after lie.
And it's admittedly difficult for people to retain their sanity and critical thinking.
And so now we've got to a position where far too many people, for my liking, believe that the way to determine what is true is to turn on the TV, look at what they're saying, and believe that whatever they're saying, the opposite of that is the truth.
That's not how reality works.
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It's an intriguing title, your book, Sunday Times Bestseller, now out as paperback.
Why did you sit down and write an immigrants' love letter to the West, Constantine?
Someone should.
Someone should defend the West.
Someone should say that while we are being told, particularly by progressives, that we live in one of the most evil, intolerant, bigoted, prejudiced societies in the history of humanity, actually the opposite is true.
We live in one of the safest, wealthiest, most prosperous, most tolerant, most inclusive, most diverse, whatever words you want to throw at it.
We score on those metrics extraordinarily well.
If you compare it to the country that I come from, Russia, we're doing incredibly well.
But it's not just Russia.
I mean, look around.
Where are these, you know, people talk about how America has this institutional racist stain.
And look, there are problems of racism in this country, in the UK, everywhere.
But where are these paradises?
And why don't these people ever move there?
That's what I wonder because I made the choice and my parents made the choice for me to send me to a country that they thought was better.
And if I don't like the UK, maybe I'll move to America.
But is that the secret?
That it's, you know, people like me, like you, who choose to live in America, in the UK, the Dinesh D'Souza's of the world, who celebrate the reality?
Why does it have to be an immigrant?
I mean, let me ask you.
I mean, you were born in the UK, right?
But your mother's an immigrant.
Why do people who've never understood what other countries are like, why do they not leave?
If you believe that you're living in a systemically racist nation, Why do you stay?
How do they believe this stuff?
Well, I'll tell you why and how they believe this stuff.
It's two words.
It's Western privilege.
When you grew up in the West, you grew up in the United States, you grew up in the UK, you don't realise how good you've got it.
You don't realise that actually all the amazing opportunities are open to you.
You don't realise how lucky you are to live in a country that is safe, where if something happens to you there is a police force that will actually investigate the crimes.
You don't know what it's like to live in a country where you don't have freedom of speech, where if you criticise the government at one o'clock in the morning there might very well be a knock on the door and then it's the luck of the dice whether you'll ever be seen again.
Can I just push back in one sense?
As somebody who was born in the UK, I look back to the history of the UK and I don't see in the 20s, the 30s, the 40s, the 50s, let's stop at the 60s, People who've never travelled anywhere, didn't have passports, were born there, hating their country or calling it racist.
Something changed.
Why is it the 20-somethings?
We reward people for screaming about... So the value system of what we reward changed?
Yeah, right now we have weaponized empathy is what I call it.
So if I complain as an immigrant or a dark-skinned person and I say this country is terrible, look, if I say to you I'm suffering, you as an empathetic person will empathize with that and we have a class of people who make money by complaining about things and profiting from them.
When they're absolutely fine.
Yeah.
They're not actually suffering.
Well, of course.
Of course.
And one of the things you notice is, certainly, I don't know what the case is in America, but in the UK, a lot of these people are extraordinarily privileged.
We have a woman who's, I think, the daughter of a Nigerian prince, goes on TV every day complaining about, you know, it's a clown show.
It absolutely is.
And I'll give you an example.
You're talking about that generation.
That's the generation of my grandfather.
My grandfather was born in the 20s.
He had to leave school at 14 because he came from a poor working class family.
He needed to go and leave school in order to work.
He was very academically gifted.
But that simply wasn't an option for him.
It was either work or his family didn't need.
So he went, so he did that.
Then what happened?
Well, then it became the 30s, the Great Depression.
My grandad told stories about going to look for a job in Liverpool Dock.
So you'd turn up at Liverpool Dock and there'd be hundreds of men there at the gate.
The foreman would come out and say, you, you and you, the rest of you, expletive off.
And that was it.
And you had no work, and you couldn't eat.
And then, when you started to get a little bit ahead, you started to get your foot on the ladder, it's 1939.
And we all know what happened in 1939.
So you had something to compare reality to.
Of course.
Of course.
And you have all that hardship.
And my grandfather, who was a master joiner, he was a high-level carpenter, was working on the Mosquito aircraft.
So he was building Mosquito airplanes that were built out of wood.
So he was working.
But then, It came to a point where he was reading about what was happening in Nazi Germany, what the Nazis were doing, and he said, I can't countenance this anymore.
It would be a dereliction of duty for me to not volunteer, even though... Hang on, he's building the warplanes?
Yeah.
And he said, that's not enough.
It's not enough.
So what did you do?
So he volunteered.
And he volunteered and then he went to fight.
He fought all the way from the top of Italy, all the way to the bottom.
And then he went to fight in North Africa under Montgomery as a desert rat.
And that's the calibre of the man.
And I never saw him complain.
I never saw him moan.
I never saw him complain about how difficult life was.
He never talked about the war, funnily enough.
They really did.
And when you look at that generation and everything he went through, and you see our generation, it pales in comparison.
Well, you know, if they have bad Wi-Fi... I think you might have to write a book there.
Constanzen led the way, now it's your turn.
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What is it about foreigners?
And look, I love my pets.
I love my dogs.
But some nations take that affection a little bit too far.
And Francis, well, he's discussed it in only the way he can.
Some people wonder why we voted Brexit.
Some people say it was racism.
Others say it was a protest vote.
But the real reason we voted for Brexit is because of things like This.
I would have expected this type of thing off the French.
You're into that kind of thing.
Never trust a group of people who would eat something that you'd find in a neighbor's pond.
And you know this bill was created, draft, and approved by men.
There isn't a single woman in the history of existence who's looked out in a field and thought to herself, I wonder what it's like to sleep with a goat.
I think that is a statement of empirical historic fact.
For those of you who are listening and not watching, that was the headline about Spain decriminalizing very affectionate relationships with animals, and that is an example of some of Frances' superb reels, Instagram posts.
You've got to follow my friends Constantine Kissin and Frances Foster on social media and listen to their podcast Trigonometry.
You guys, you're the only stand-up comedians I know, and I'm honored to count you as my friends.
Comedy's dead, isn't it?
I mean, on both sides of the Atlantic.
I look at the stuff I grew up watching.
On YouTube, I am now watching reruns or, you know, recordings of the stuff I watched in the 70s and 80s.
Morecambe and Wise, the two Ronnies.
And then I look at headlines here in America.
It's no better over here.
We've got Probably the greatest comic mind in America today.
We've got Dave Chappelle, who has multiple shows cancelled because he's accused of transphobia.
And then here, Duke Ellington High School, just a few miles from the studio, one of the most prestigious Schools in the nation that focuses on the arts of which Chappelle is actually a graduate They were going to name one of the buildings after Chappelle and he went back there to give a speech and now of course That isn't happening.
So What do we do about it is it is it salvageable Tommy Francis how bad is it in the UK and Look, it's pretty bad in the UK.
So the BBC have cancelled all their satirical programmes apart from one.
And people, comedians, will say, well look, this is because the Tory government are doing this, this is them trying to silence comedians, etc, etc.
It's not.
It's because comedy is so biased now, it's only done from a left-wing perspective.
May I just add, you can be a left-wing comedian and be very funny.
But the problem is, if you're only attacking a particular topic from one perspective, then your jokes become predictable.
And when your jokes become predictable, it means they're not funny.
And that has happened again and again and again.
And ratings have absolutely plummeted.
And as a result, they're having to cut all these programs.
But it's It's online where the real comedy is, where things are starting to flourish.
It's online with people's podcasts, with the reels, because that's where people are more likely to be free.
You can be much freer online than you can ever hope to be in the writing room of a mainstream broadcaster like the BBC.
Is it completely free online?
What is the way out of this?
Will there be a backlash?
What about the comedy clubs?
Well, the comedy clubs in the UK is difficult.
Actually, you know, I know that there are examples that we could find in this country, but broadly speaking, speaking to other comics here, you guys are doing much better.
It's better.
It's free.
Much, much, much better.
But when somebody of Chappelle's caliber makes a joke about his transgender friend, who's a personal friend of his, And then he's cancelled.
Well, he's not, though, is he?
Because he's still on Netflix, he's still selling... Well, alright, two of his shows are cancelled.
Yeah, but Dave Chappelle will get over it, I think, you know what I mean?
He'll be fine.
So I think you guys, you know, look, we always have to be vigilant, of course.
We don't want comedians' shows being pulled because they have the wrong opinions, quote-unquote.
But I think, actually, you guys in this country should be pretty proud of the fact that, you know, you have the First Amendment, and as I always say, much more important than the First Amendment is the culture around the First Amendment, the idea that people are free to speak their mind.
In the UK, much more difficult, and I agree with you, with Francis, online, that's the way out.
So as long as big tech don't start to crack down on things, on comedians doing different things online, then that is, to me, the solution.
Are you getting a good response?
Because I'm enjoying these new things you're doing, the reels.
Are you getting resonance?
Yeah, absolutely getting resonance.
I did one on Madonna that got about a million views.
It's just about to hit a million views on Facebook.
Prince Harry went viral.
And these clips do very well.
But you know what?
It's frustrating for me because I get messages from people that I know and they say, I love this.
It made me laugh so much.
You know, I shared it in a WhatsApp group.
I'm not going to retweet it though.
So sharing it to a safe group.
A closed group.
I mean the whole point of comedy is to be rebellious.
It's to stand out there.
Whether the establishment is left or right.
It's to throw spears at both sides.
Of course, that is entirely the point of comedy.
So there's this very famous case in the UK where Nicola Sturgeon, the former First Minister of Scotland, wanted to put, and actually put, a two-time male rapist in a women's prison.
I need you to repeat this because most of our American viewers and listeners will not believe this.
This is a guy who raped two women and then he got to the courtroom and suddenly had a lot of gender dysphoria.
So, raped two women that we know of and then put on a wig and a pink blouse and said that he's a woman.
Pink leggings.
Pink leggings, sorry.
And said he's a woman.
This is what we call prison onset gender dysphoria.
Very rapid.
And then what happened with Scotland?
And then obviously people got very upset about it, there was a back and forth, there was a public outcry and going, this is nonsense and eventually common sense.
Because he wants to end up in a female prison, that's the issue.
Of course, because he's a woman.
Obviously.
He wanted to be in a women's prison where he belongs, Seb.
But anyway, on one of our Raw shows, we spent eight minutes, because our Raw shows are completely improvised, We spent about eight to ten minutes talking about this issue, and that video's got hundreds and hundreds of thousands of views.
Because when you see real comedy that you don't see on TV, people want that.
People are hungry for that.
So while, of course, you know, we always have to make sure that we push back against this culture, the reality is we have to say, for us, it's brilliant.
Because when no one else is calling this stuff out... Well, when the emperor is naked, somebody has to call it out.
And we get to be those guys.
Long may it continue.
Long may the insanity continue until we crush them all.
So, it was remiss of me, the lads have the regular show with amazing interview subjects, the whole panoply.
You think of a subject, you think of a profession, they will have interviewed them.
And then Thursdays and Fridays, or is it Thursday, Friday and Saturday?
Thursday, Friday, Saturday, when we're not on a big tour of America.
When they're not with me having cigars, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, they have the live raw shows where there might be a little bit of adult beverage involved to lubricate the humor and it is very, very good.
A little spicy, but it's good.
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I don't know why I feel this.
Maybe it's an inaccurate assessment, but I think there are some topics you may have become tired of because you've done so much analysis of them.
But I want to Run something by you that I run by a lot of my guests like Posey Parker and others that have been on the show.
For me of all the issues out there.
That could be the wake-up call for people who are born in a Western country to understand the threat or just how insanely politicized and radical the left has become.
For me, the uber red pill is the transgender movement.
Why?
Because you don't have to be political You just have to have a daughter who wants to be, you know, a high school, college athlete.
And you say, hang on, that's a man who's competing against him.
And there's a man with a penis walking into the girls' changing room.
That's wrong.
Am I being, am I putting too much hope on this one issue being the Damascene moment?
Where do you stand on trans?
Is it more important than the other issues?
I mean, look, there are a lot of issues.
I'm not sure about more important or less important, but I will say this.
It's because it's very important because it involves children.
Yes.
And when you have doctors and medical professionals giving children as young as 12, if not even younger, hormones and treatments that are going to negatively impact their life and reduce their life expectancy.
And sterilize.
Yeah, and sterilize them and the quality of their life.
Let us be absolutely blunt and clear about it.
That is child abuse.
That is child abuse.
Because when I was a teacher, we had safeguarding training.
And if I knew that there was a person doing this to a child who I was in loco parentis of, which means I'm in the role of the parent when they are in my school.
Temporarily.
Yeah, temporarily.
I would report them to the authorities.
Because this is unforgivable.
How important is this issue?
To me, I actually think it is the most important issue.
And I've said from day one that this would be the issue that broke intersectionality and broke wokeness.
Because, look, all of us recognize that society is unequal.
All of us recognize that there are some racist people.
All of us recognize that women are not always treated equally as they should be.
And so we can always kind of go along when someone says, well, it's a race.
Okay, you can sort of go with it.
But once you start messing with people's children, once you start putting male rapists in women's prisons, I mean, that's where you lose not just people who are into this issue, you lose everybody, pretty much.
So I thought this was the most important thing from the beginning.
And it's not just on the practical level, even though that's obviously the most important thing.
I think, Seb, the truth is that The reason this matters so much is it is the logical conclusion of the erosion of the concept of truth itself.
When you say a man can be a woman by means of an incantation, abracadabra woman, you know, that is insanity, that is madness.
And when you get to that point, I think a lot of people will be woken up by this.
And, as you know, in the UK, not that the problem is dealt with by any stretch, but we are making some progress on this.
We saw the shutting down of the Tavistock Clinic.
The big central transgender clinic.
Exactly.
A lot of whistleblowers are now coming out.
We're seeing court cases about this and, as you know, there will be a wave of detransitioners now who are suing doctors and other professionals who put them in that position.
So, I think that will be the issue that breaks all of this, actually.
And just to clarify, when you're talking about the most important issue...
This is of course very important, but to me this goes back to freedom of speech.
When people feel that they can't voice their opinions freely without being censored, without having their freedoms curtailed, without losing their job, this is what happens.
Well, and when they're being mandated to say things.
Yes, exactly.
This is what happens.
We end up in this lunacy where our own children are being damaged.
Now, this is your second trip in the United States.
You're doing all kinds of amazing things, interviewing incredible guests.
You're talking about your book, Constantine and Immigrant's Love Letter to the West.
I think you've fallen in love with America.
I look forward to the day when you both move here.
But until then, you're talking to about three and a half million people right now, live on the radio, and then we have all the other social media followers.
Why is it you do what you do?
Because you both Literally walked away from a profession and triggered your colleagues to detest you because of your commitment to what you saw as the truth.
So explain to millions of people right now why you did that.
Why did we do that?
Because the truth is the most important thing.
Because to live a life without integrity is not living.
If you are not living with integrity, if you are not being honest with yourself, then you are living a shadow of a life.
And the reality is, is that we're all going to die.
Every single last one of us.
I'm reading a book by an author called Hubert Selby Jr.
and he talks about, in the foreword to his book, He, I think it was tuberculosis, and this was in the 40s, and he nearly died.
And he said, as I was lying on my bed, I realised that I was going to die.
But that wasn't what worried me.
What worried me was the fact that I had never really lived.
And I didn't want to be one of those people who went through life buttoning their mouth, buttoning their bottom lip, and not saying what they thought and felt, and living a life that was secondary and not true to myself.
God bless.
For me, there's also an element of defiance in all of it as well, because the reason comedians hate us is not only because we refuse to bow down to wokeness, it's also because we're successful.
And every time, every 10,000 new subscribers we get, I have a little moment when I think about those people and laugh.
And we like winding people up.
I can't remember who said it, but it was a wise individual.
A life well lived is the best revenge.
All right, I'm gonna turn the tables on you.
In the last 60 seconds we have left, it's the question you always ask your guests.
What is the most important thing we're not talking about, Francis Foster?
The one thing that we're not talking about as a society that we really should be, Seb, is the effect that lockdown has had on our children, both psychologically, emotionally, and educationally, and what is going to happen to that generation.
In 20 years' time.
In 20, 40, 60 years' time.
It's unpleasant and we do not want to admit to ourselves what we have done to that generation.
Constantin, most important question we're not talking about.
Similar but different in the sense that I think it's the fact that people aren't having enough children and the depopulation risk of our country is essentially not reproducing enough.
We brainwashed ourselves to believe that the planet is going to burn down in three years or whatever it is and as a result of that I think young people in particular, you know, you probably see the scenes out of our country where these idiots are throwing themselves In front of ambulances and throwing soup on paintings and so on.
We need to teach children and young people that they have a stake in the future and the way to deal with that is to have more people who are going to come up with more solutions.
And that to me is actually a very American attitude.
The fix it mindset.
That's what we need more of.
Invest in the future and if you have kids, you're going to fix the future.
The book available right now in paperback is Constance Kissing's An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West.
The podcast Top of my list for international podcasts is Trigonometry.
Follow them.
They also have a substack, Konstantin Dars.
They have locals as well.
Trigonometry locals.
Look that up.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
You've been listening to America First one-on-one.
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