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	Welcome, dear friends.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	I had a cut I requested be played.
	It was Hank Johnson yesterday.
	The hearings, it's a great idea.
	Let's remind you of what the left looks like.
	This is the Judiciary Committee in New York, a city that is suffering immensely.
	Do we have that cut, Eric?
	The Republican witnesses who have used their time to criticize District Attorney Bragg ...has served as props in a MAGA Broadway production.
	The real purpose in coming to New York City... Can we have order?
	The real purpose in coming to New York City... Gentlemen, we'll suspend.
	Gentlemen, we'll suspend.
	Stop the clock.
	Gentlemen, we'll suspend.
	Quite remarkable, because New York isn't exactly a Republican stronghold.
	But the turning point, I think, has been arrived at.
	If anyone continues, then we're going to have to escort some people out.
	Please don't talk down to us witnesses, please.
	Quite remarkable, because New York isn't exactly a Republican stronghold.
	But the turning point, I think, has been arrived at.
	For the left, the talking points have been issued.
	The day after, today, we have Morning Joe, we have the mainstream lying legacy media, continue to actually parrot what the Democrats on that committee were saying in New York, a city that has been ravaged by crime under the current mayor, the former mayor, the new police chief.
	This is cut 10.
	The talking points have been issued.
	Yeah, it was a travesty, a sham, a circus.
	And as Mara said, it was not particularly effective because it could have been the basement committee hearing room on Capitol Hill for all the visuals we got from it.
	It's ridiculous, actually.
	I don't think it had any particular impact on Alvin Bragg.
	And these stunts basically are what this House majority can do.
	Stunt.
	A circus.
	What is he talking about?
	He's talking about the Judiciary Committee of Congress.
	The most powerful oversight body we have in America to look into issues of crime, law enforcement, police, and why are they in New York?
	What makes it a stunt, Eugene?
	What makes it a circus?
	Ask a New Yorker what it's like after sundown to use the subway, to walk down a street where the lamppost, the street lighting has gone out.
	Ask a bodega owner who emigrated here
	tried to carve out a living for himself who defends himself against people who are trying to rob him and then kill him and the same Alvin Bragg who just recently indicted the former president of the United States on 34 spurious charges the statute of limitations for which have already expired five and six years ago that
	District Attorney charged that bodega owner with murder.
	After that, I think it was two weeks ago, garage worker, shot at, wounded by a thief, tussles with him, grabs the gun, shoots his attacker with the attacker's gun, kills him, survives, And is charged with murder.
	Now, we made a big story out of it.
	The non-legacy media kicked up a fuss.
	And that man finally walked free.
	But stop and ask yourself, what is this entity?
	Whether it's the Democrat members of Congress in that committee, whether it's their aliases in the mainstream media like Eugene Robinson, Whether it's a person with immense power, almost life and death power, because you get charged with murder, you go away for 20 years if you're a conservative, might as well be dead.
	So whether it's a district attorney with life and death power, what are they saying to you?
	And not just to Republicans, not just to conservatives, but to Democrats as well.
	To the citizens of the city of New York.
	That they have no moral core.
	At the beginning of the Cold War, a seminal document was written by a very intelligent diplomat called George Kennan.
	George Kennan was serving in the US Embassy in Moscow after World War II.
	He received a request, interestingly, not from the State Department, but from the Treasury Department, To try and explain to the government in DC what's going on in Moscow.
	Uncle Joe, Joe Stalin, he helped us beat the Nazis.
	He was quote-unquote our friend.
	Uncle Joe!
	Our ally!
	Why is he acting the way he is?
	Why is he encroaching upon Berlin?
	Why is he threatening the use of force against us and our troops?
	George Kennan, who studied Russia, who understood the Soviet Union, sat down and wrote something called the Long Telegram, a classified analysis for the government back in Washington, explaining what they need to know about the Kremlin, about Stalin, about communism.
	It was the beginning of our strategy that would evolve under Paul Nietzsche, Under numerous precedents to follow of containment.
	And perhaps one of the clearest, most important moments in that telegram that you can now read.
	It's been declassified and I used it for years to teach case studies on grand strategy to my offices and my students.
	Kennan said the following.
	You need to understand what the word truth means in the Soviet Union.
	Truth is not immutable.
	It isn't carved in stone.
	It isn't eternal.
	Truth is what serves the interest of the party, of the political elite.
	If the sky is blue on Tuesday, but we wish to say that it is purple on Wednesday, even though it's still blue, Then the sky is purple.
	If that is an advantage, if that is useful to the party, truth is that which has most utility to those in power.
	I would put it to you, we're not living, at least not yet, in the Soviet Union with gulags and the KGB, although the FBI is doing a pretty good bloody impression.
	The truth is just as irrelevant to the Democrats as it was to Stalin's Politburo.
	The truth about New York isn't political.
	It's a hellhole.
	If you're an Asian, you can't walk down the street safely unless you're buff and 300 pounds.
	If you're a woman, you're not safe to walk the streets after dark in numerous parts of New York.
	Does the Democrat Party care?
	No.
	They couldn't give a damn about you.
	Why?
	Well, they just told you.
	It's a stunt.
	Trying to get to the bottom of what's happening in New York?
	It's just a circus!
	Why?
	Because it threatens their monopoly of power in strongholds for the Democrat Party, like New York.
	I want you to be clear.
	If you're a Democrat who's accidentally tuned in, the Democrat Party doesn't give a damn about you.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	Greetings.
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	Cut 12 for this.
	Cut 12?
	I have that Senator Debbie Stabenow when she was laughing about gas prices because she just bought an electric vehicle.
	Oh, good.
	Cut 13, actually, because cut 12 is Kamala.
	Yeah, I got it.
	Oh, I remember this.
	Do you guys not hear that I wanted to come in with Hank?
	I didn't hear that, no.
	No, I heard you ask for it, but I didn't hear you say come in with it.
	All right.
	Okay.
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	That's one thing.
	That's bad enough.
	But what about arrogance?
	What about the idea that they're special?
	A person who probably could do a very good impression of Marie Antoinette is Senator Debbie Stabenow.
	Now, for you who are watching, look at this woman's face.
	And tell me just how derisive and dripping in contempt she is for anybody who can't afford a Tesla electric vehicle.
	And she's so happy that she doesn't have to buy gasoline.
	Senator Stabenow.
	On the issue of gas prices, after waiting for a long time to have enough chips in this country to finally get my electric vehicle.
	I got it and drove it from Michigan to here this last weekend and went by every single gas station.
	It didn't matter how high it was.
	And so I'm looking forward to the opportunity for us to move to vehicles that aren't going to be dependent on the whims of the oil companies and the international markets.
	Yeah, because it's just so easy.
	Just buy one of those $70,000 Teslas and there are charging stations everywhere.
	Oh, there aren't?
	Oh, you're just a poor little pleb living in rural America.
	Are we going to survive the push, the mandates for electric vehicles?
	Let's talk to the person behind the Car Coach Reports.
	Lauren Fix, welcome back to America First.
	Well, thanks for having me back.
	So you've been very active of late.
	You've talked about these new mandates.
	I'm going to ask a naive question.
	When you're not living in a big city, you're rich, you've got charging stations.
	I get that.
	But if you're a plumber, if you're a woodworker, if you're in construction, you're living in the wilds of South Dakota, isn't this insane, Lauren?
	It makes no sense for most of the country.
	This is not about anything more than trying to get you to move out of where you are, move into that 15-minute city that they're working on, and be reliant on them with electric stoves, electric dryers, because you're not going to have a job.
	They're going to control literally everything that you do, and they're going to tell you when you need to do something.
	That's the ultimate goal.
	Explain, because some of our listeners may not be familiar with it.
	It's a new concept.
	What is this 15-minute cities you just mentioned?
	Oh, this is the climate crusaders goal.
	They want to tell you it's about electric cars, but once you get into the 15 minute city where everything you need is 15 minutes away, mass transit, you could walk and ride a bike.
	You don't need your electric car.
	We've drawn you in like the Pied Piper.
	Buy the electric car.
	Oh no, you actually don't need the electric car.
	We're just going to take care of you and everything you're going to need is going to be within this walled city.
	Sounds like a prison to me.
	Sounds like a really bad movie.
	I would say that's like Logan's run.
	It's kind of what they're thinking.
	All right, so I just want to cut to the chase.
	You are in this industry.
	You write the Car Coach Reports.
	You've got to follow this lady right now.
	If you're a gasoline head, a petrol head like me, it's Lauren Fix on Twitter.
	LaurenFixCarCoachReports.com.
	Can we win this battle?
	Because if the elite ...are happy driving around in their super expensive electric cars or getting chauffeured in their gasoline SUVs.
	Can we resist?
	What does the future look like?
	What has to happen for sanity to prevail?
	Well something happened yesterday, and no one's covering it, but I am posting a story on it on Friday.
	China is planning to ban rare earth exports to the U.S.
	Wow.
	That is huge.
	I saw one little blip on it, did some deeper dive, and all I can find is that China plans to say they're going to Squeeze the U.S.
	and the world by limiting the magnets.
	But people will go, magnets, whatever.
	Yeah, well, you know what?
	You can't run an electric motor without it.
	So there are two rare earth minerals.
	They're neodymium, and there's another one I can't even say, because it's a Latin name.
	But the bottom line is, if they reduce that, we're in trouble.
	So where do we get our minerals right now?
	Well, mostly from China, because they own us.
	But they also get some from Canada, and they also get some from a country in Brazil that is owned by China.
	How convenient!
	Because they own 80% of the mine.
	This is ridiculous.
	So now we're, oh, let's shut down the pipelines.
	Let's not drill.
	We want to reduce all oil and gas and go to wind and solar, which is absolutely ridiculous.
	We can supply only 18% of what we need.
	That's it.
	18%.
	To prove it, look what happened in Texas when they had a snowstorm.
	That's exactly what happened.
	And so that is a problem.
	There is no base load power, which is natural gas and coal.
	They don't want nuclear power plants, which would be an answer, but it's not incentivized.
	And that's why you're seeing everybody going to this electric battery push.
	And don't let anyone convince you, by the way, the truth is only 5.8% of sales are electric.
	That's it.
	5.8% of it's going to be like 15 million vehicles this year, maybe 16 million Japan production.
	Interesting.
	The word is, if we go with electric cars and we listen to their new mandated push which says they want 67% of cars to be electric by 2050.
	Totally not possible.
	The grid can't support it.
	Manufacturers will go out of business.
	You are absolutely asking for a disaster to happen.
	I'm going to tell you what's going to happen.
	China's going to put the squeeze on us and they're going to own the whole auto industry because we're not going to be able to keep our companies alive here in the U.S.
	If we're relying 100% on electric, which nobody makes a profit on!
	Yeah, we're going to unpack that more.
	My next question in the next segment is going to be what we do about it.
	What the average American person, voter, taxpayer, car driver can do about it.
	In the meantime, follow her at laurenfixcarcoachreports.com.
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	Lauren, let's stay on this EV jag because I really think that these lunatics really believe that everybody must have one and that it will work.
	It won't work.
	I mean, when California, California recently said, don't charge your car at night because everybody's got the AC on and we, California doesn't have enough electricity.
	How is this going to work on a national scale?
	Oh, I've got even better numbers for you, because I know you love this.
	Across the full United States, there's only 130,000 charging stations.
	That's it!
	Right.
	And that means one charging station for 10,000 cars.
	That's not going to work.
	So I'm not saying the cars are bad, because the cars are pretty impressive.
	Let's just face it, they are cool.
	But the charging infrastructure is horrid at best.
	And in California, you've got 2.8 chargers for 10,000 cars.
	That's impossible.
	So because of this, they're having a problem with infrastructure.
	And this is what the government says, you should charge at home.
	Okay, well, hold on a second.
	Not everybody has a garage.
	30% of the homes in the United States don't have garages at all.
	Well, you could just have like a super long cable from your apartment on the, you know, on the 12th floor.
	Just wind it down the staircase out onto the street, right?
	Right.
	I used to live on the 10th floor apartment in New York City on the Upper West Side.
	Let me tell you, throwing a cord out the window was not going to fly.
	The super would have probably destroyed me for doing that.
	But it doesn't make sense.
	So they'll go, we'll go to a charging station.
	Well, how many charging stations have you been to that aren't working?
	And that's something else I learned this past week, is that all the companies that install these charging stations cost about a million dollars for a level two charger.
	So you own a gas station.
	They say, all right, we'll comply.
	We'll put in a charging station.
	And it costs a million dollars.
	Something happens.
	Someone backs into it.
	Sorry, they don't come and fix it.
	That's on you to get it fixed.
	And in addition, it's up to you to pay for the electricity.
	So how do you recoup that?
	It'll take you 20 years.
	But forget that.
	Filling a car up takes five minutes.
	To charge an electric car, you've got to sit in it and wait.
	No, don't sit in it, actually.
	There's magnetic fields on the fast chargers.
	Even the people that make them, and I will leave their names out, have told me, do not sit in the car.
	If you get a fast charger, get out of the vehicle, go to the mall, go to the store, leave the vehicle, something.
	Because there's going to be health issues down the road, and this is something I'm waiting to hear, and I'm going to go, really?
	Like, don't build your house next to gigantic charging stations, but it's okay to sleep with your family in the car.
	while all this electricity is being transported into it.
	Not why.
	Remember, don't put your phone at your ear.
	It's dangerous.
	Right.
	But it's okay.
	You can sit on 2,000 of them while they're being charged.
	Not good.
	I know I'm being a bit obvious here, but it's meant to be a vehicle to provide you mobility.
	But you have to wait for it to charge and you can't even stay in it while it's charging.
	There's a problem with this picture.
	Well, you shouldn't.
	Well, yeah, if you don't want to grow an extra head.
	Lauren, you were saying in the break... That's your arm, right?
	Right.
	Well, that could be handy.
	You were saying in the break that you've read the new news about EVs.
	Tell us what you saw.
	Okay, so I've got the list.
	I went through all the qualifiers.
	One, a bill must be built in the U.S., so that gives you $3,750.
	The other $3,750 totaling $7,500 of potential tax credit is the battery has to have 40% of the materials or built here in the U.S.
	of potential tax credit is the battery has to have 40% of the materials or built here in the U.S.
	That's as of this year, 2023.
	In 2024, that percentage goes to 50, 60, 70, 80%.
	And by 2027, model year, three years from now, if it's not 90 percent from the U.S., it doesn't qualify.
	So what does qualify?
	20 vehicles.
	That's it.
	20.
	And they're mostly like the Chrysler Pacifica, the Jeep Wranglers, the Ford F-150 Lightning, the Mach-E.
	There's a few of the plug-ins, like the Cadillac Lyric, but if the vehicle's over $80,000, sorry, it's out.
	If you make more than $200,000 each or $400,000 as a couple, sorry, you don't get it.
	So there's a lot of new qualifiers.
	Only the Tesla Model 3 Standard Range And the Model Y all-wheel drive, and the Model Y Performance.
	Otherwise, none of the Teslas.
	So this is crazy.
	A couple of Stellantis vehicles, but for the most part, Hyundai, Kia, who make great electric vehicles, that have won World Car of the Year awards, like the Ioniq 5 and the Ioniq 6, not eligible.
	So they're hoping to get it to the company, and that company will then pass it along to you in a lease.
	Don't buy these electric cars.
	Lease them if you're gonna buy one.
	Sounds like a scam to me.
	Find out more at LaurenFix on Twitter.
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	I'm still left as the mainstream media had enough.
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	All right, we have some scary headlines.
	Of course, we have almost two years left of the incumbent regime.
	Individuals who know how to sign backs of checks, not the fronts of checks.
	We have Jamie Dimon, CEO of JP Morgan, say the following.
	There are risks of even more bank failures.
	How does that affect your investments?
	How does that affect your retirement?
	What should you be looking at if you have a portfolio?
	I rely upon an individual, a company, Key City Capital, and we're going to talk to their chief client officer right now.
	Stephen Patterson, are you there?
	Stephen!
	Very garbly!
	I hope he's not on a non-Patriot mobile phone.
	Stephen!
	Hi, Dr. Corker.
	How are you today?
	Good, good, good, good.
	That's much better.
	You had us worried there for a moment.
	So, every day it looks as if wherever you turn, there are disturbing headlines about the state of the economy, real estate, the dollar, the Fed.
	What is your advice to people who just want to have a little bit of security?
	You know, there are uncertain economic times in front of us right now.
	We have a Federal Reserve that's a bit runaway with interest rate hikes as we currently see them going up faster than we may have ever seen them in the history of the United States.
	You know, we have banking uncertainty that we haven't seen since 2008.
	There's a number of mysteries here, and so, you know, what we like to think through is, how do we get into cash-flowing, value-holding assets?
	That's a really interesting phrase.
	Cash-flowing.
	What does that apply to?
	Yeah, you know, there are certain commodities that that would certainly link to.
	Rental real estate certainly comes to mind when you look at things that are cash flowing, right?
	So there's a there's a monthly payment that comes with it.
	We like things that have some type of tax structure, tax advantage to it.
	which we also find in rental real estate.
	And we like things that have a value, gold, precious metals, items like that that have an intrinsic value in an up or down economy.
	When we can find those types of assets in uncertain times like this, they seem to make a lot of sense.
	Right, so what does Key City Capital do?
	If people are concerned, they look at the Feds, the interest rate, inflation, what can you do to help?
	Yeah, well we focus our assets in multi-family real estate, so apartment complexes, In the sunbelt states, states that are seeing tremendous growth, states that are seeing business relocation, those are the cities and states that we want to operate in.
	And we look for medium to large apartment complexes that have a monthly return in the collection of rent.
	With an upside of appreciation over time.
	That's what we try to find.
	And how does what we've witnessed, because again it seems to be every few weeks there's a question, is the Fed going to do something?
	Will they raise interest rates?
	Will their raise be enough?
	Is it timed correctly?
	Is it too late?
	How do those events, how do interest rate changes affect what you're providing?
	Yeah, really, it's a challenging landscape, and we're doing something that people probably haven't even heard of since the 80s.
	We're buying assumable notes.
	Uh, notes that were, you know, the, the seller, uh, we assume their notes.
	So, you know, they bought a property four and five years ago at three, three and a half percent interest.
	So we're assuming the note that they have, uh, so that we can avoid 6%, uh, commercial rates, 7% commercial rates in this rising interest rate environment.
	However, in this rising interest rate environment, it's also making home ownership all the more troublesome.
	For individuals looking to leave a rental property.
	So our demand is higher than we've ever seen it.
	And what about inflation?
	What does it do to your business model?
	Well, if you think about it, in an inflationary environment, the price of the projects is rising.
	So by buying an asset, such as an apartment complex, as the economy is inflated, so does the value of that property.
	So it keeps pace rather nicely.
	The other thing that it does, and we've all been seeing this over the last few years, is how fast rental rates have gone up.
	You know, Washington, D.C., I think, led the nation last year, 22 percent increase in rents.
	Right.
	And so just as inflation's eight, nine.
	You're the expert, okay?
	That's why I want my listeners to go to Key City Capital.
	your dollar keep pace with the current economy.
	See, look, I'm not the expert.
	You're the expert, okay?
	That's why I want my listeners to go to Key City Capital.
	But I look at what I witness here in DC, the nation's capital, and you know, office space is empty, right?
	Because COVID, because teleworking.
	But even if you have a disastrous situation like COVID, Stephen, people still need somewhere to live.
	So that's why it's such a good investment.
	It is.
	It is.
	And you know, and let's contrast that with what you just said.
	Because you're exactly right.
	And I want to differentiate that for the listeners.
	COVID changed the work landscape, for better or worse, probably permanently.
	The work from home, The Skype, Zoom model is here.
	Commercial real estate is taking a beating.
	It truly is.
	But what you said, the multi-family occupancy real estate, that's golden.
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	Wow, where'd that hour go?
	Vimeo or Rumble for that one?
	Vimeo.
	Okie dokes.
	Singin' for the Trigger guys.
	Really simple, but something like, is comedy dead?
	What do we think?
	Let's have a vote.
	It's pretty simple, I know.
	John, is comedy dead?
	Would that get your eyeballs?
	No?
	Oh, he thinks it's not dead.
	No, the question is, as a title for the hour we did.
	Alright, Guy, what do you think?
	You can say no.
	I like it.
	I like it.
	He's not gonna... Eric's not gonna hit you.
	It's alright.
	Alex?
	I am closest to him, but yes.
	No.
	Your name isn't Alex, Geoff.
	I know, but we have a time crime.
	I'd like something a little more serious.
	It seemed like a sincere talk.
	Fine.
	You've got three minutes.
	You've got three minutes.
	Constitution, America first!
	All right, we haven't played many cuts.
	We haven't even had any callers.
	The number is 833-33-GORKA.
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	Where did that hour go?
	We've got to have a cut, Jeff.
	What do you think we should play?
	Is it CNBC giving Hakeem Jeffries a hard time?
	Or should we have Ron DeSantis threatening prison for Disney?
	You choose.
	Well, he is the head of the Republican Party, Ron DeSantis, so we've got to play him.
	Oh, sorry.
	I will tug my cap.
	Yes, of course.
	The governor of Florida has got an interesting idea.
	Cut three!
	Come to think of it, now people are like, well, there's, what should we do with this land?
	And so, you know, it's like, OK, kids, I mean, people have said, you know, maybe, maybe have another, maybe create a state park, maybe try to do more amusement parks.
	Someone even said, like, maybe you need another state prison.
	Who knows?
	I mean, I just think that the possibilities are endless.
	A prison next to Disney.
	Are you impressed with the governor, Eric?
	It sounds like a great idea in theory, but I can't help but say that just sounds like, at the end of the day, another one of his stunts.
	Jeff, the leader of the Republican Party, what do you think of his idea?
	I've been very critical of Ron, but Ron kind of always knows what to do or what to say.
	This last two weeks with Disney, it's falling apart.
	He doesn't know what to do.
	He doesn't know what to say.
	He doesn't know how to fight back, because he's been running this whole thing for a year, one of his things.
	I took on Disney.
	No, he didn't.
	They outsmarted him.
	Now he doesn't know what to do.
	Yeah, they did with that vote that was put through just that deal just before the vote.
	It looks like they outsmarted him, but it's okay.
	He's getting on the question of transgenderism and Bud Light.
	This is a cut for Playcut.
	Bud Light, gotta get your take on the boycott.
	So you just brought up Anheuser-Busch, Bud Light's getting hit as hard as I've ever seen it.
	Why would you want to drink Bud Light?
	I mean, like, honestly, that's like them rubbing our faces in it.
	And it's like these companies that do this, if they never have any response, they're just going to keep doing it.
	So if you as a consumer are like, yeah, they're basically, and I mean, it's such a fraud with what they're doing with that.
	Like, yeah, they're doing that, but I'm just going to keep drinking it anyways.
	Well, then they're just going to keep doing it.
	So I think we have power as consumers to make our voice heard.
	And not on every company because sometimes conservative consumers aren't going to make a dent in some companies.
	This one is one.
	If you don't have conservative beer drinkers, you're going to feel that.
	And so, you know, I think it's a righteous, I think it's a righteous thing.
	That was my video.
	That was my Instagram video at the end of me throwing my Bud Light in the trash.
	Betty Johnson, you do not have my permission.
	That's copyright.
	How dare you?
	Honestly!
	Jeff, are you happy with Ron now after that interview about boycotting Bud Light?
	Why was it in a car?
	What was the reason for that?
	How do I know?
	What am I?
	Ron DeSantis' campaign manager?
	Well, your video is in there.
	You're part of the content.
	Hang on, this is the question.
	Why was it in a car that was stationary?
	Maybe it's an EV.
	Maybe that's why.
	Maybe they ran out of battery power.
	That is the question.
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	No, no.
	I need to talk to him.
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	I need the, uh, the name of, uh, who we used to book the president.
	Who replaced Molly?
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	But it is that time of the week where we check in with one of your favorites, former head of the Hollinger Group, a justice reform advocate, historian of really quite some renown, the author of Donald J. Trump, A President Like No Other, Lord Conrad Black.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Thank you, Sebastian.
	Now, as somebody who ran a global media empire, I would love to get your response to the, well, it's a national security leak, the likes of which we probably haven't seen since the Pentagon Papers, given the amount of information, literally hundreds of top-secret documents leaked by this Massachusetts Airmen, National Guards Airmen,
	Some people on the right, who I have excoriated on social media, call this individual a hero and a whistleblower for quote-unquote revealing the truth about Ukraine.
	Your measure?
	I would completely disagree with that view.
	The thing that shocks me the most is that a 21-year-old National Guardsman gets access to this sort of thing.
	I mean, at least in the Ellsberg papers case, he was an intimate of the Uh, on the staff of the then National Security Advisor, Henry Kissinger, and he'd had an association directly with Vietnam for a long time, and his material was about a subject he himself knew a good deal about, and he was a reasonably senior person.
	He was, in my opinion, dishonorable, and in some respects deranged in what he did, but he was a different level of activity and expertise to a 21-year-old guardsman, National Guardsman, who doesn't know anything particularly about what he's revealing.
	And I think that's where the greatest crisis is.
	Now, I think the attempt of what I would have to call kind of paleo-conservative isolationists who think that we should just cut and run in Ukraine and, in effect, give Russia an open door, after all this, give Russia an open door, after all this, to win that war by virtue of not supplying the Ukrainians.
	I think all of that is shameful.
	And in fairness to the accused, IN THE STATE.
	Indiscreet person.
	I don't think he intended that.
	I think he was inexcusably dishonest in stealing the information and reckless and negligent in releasing it.
	But I don't think he was trying to accomplish a goal like that, where Ellsberg was trying to bring a unilateral and dishonorable end to the Vietnam War.
	Lay hands on this as ammunition for an argument that we should cut and run in Ukraine.
	It just confirms to me that some of these people, who in many other respects we agree with on the right, have taken leave of their senses.
	Now, as somebody who had to make decisions about coverage from the media organs you controlled on both sides of the Atlantic, there's something strange to this story.
	I have my take, and I'd be curious of yours, that A, number one, a twenty-one-year-old reservist who has access to this level of even human intelligence reporting.
	Very strange.
	And also, number two, the way it's being purposed that he was on a chat room with about two dozen of his friends who were into the same computer games.
	The whole thing reeks of either A story we're not being told the full details of, or just the most gross levels of rank incompetence when it comes to the securing of some of the most precious information that the US government has control over.
	Do you have any suppositions as to Whether we're not seeing the full story and whether there's something more nefarious going on.
	Yeah, I agree with you that it's either one or the other.
	I mean, either the whole thing is a setup for some.
	Yeah.
	One hesitates to get into such dark conspiracies, but to start generating momentum behind a true, you know, a cut and run scenario.
	And the other is that there's absolutely nothing particularly diabolical going on, merely rank and almost unheard of incompetence in terms of controlling confidential material.
	I mean, in the last analysis, if the governments of the world can't have confidence in conducting secret discussions on legitimate points of mutual interest, With the government of the United States, it's going to be practically impossible to conduct any foreign policy at all.
	Now obviously we won't get to that, but I think we want to know what really happened here, just as we want to know, and I'm not making an exact comparison between them, what really happened in that leak of the abortion decision at the Supreme Court.
	I mean, why haven't they identified the person who did it by now?
	That is a very, very good question.
	We're talking to Lord Conrad M. Black on Twitter.
	ConradMBlack.com is the website.
	Your latest piece in the New York Sun is about the war in Ukraine.
	Let me ask an overarching question.
	Before this scandalous story broke, was there not a danger that Ukraine was becoming rapidly the forgotten war and wasn't gaining the requisite attention?
	Do you mean requisite attention from the standpoint of those who want to get out of it quickly?
	No, I mean just in terms of coverage.
	I mean, we are having a shooting war with tanks and bombers in Europe, and it doesn't seem to have received the attention it was receiving, say, six months ago, nine months ago.
	Were we in danger of not paying the requisite attention to it?
	I have to say, I think that was in some ways a good thing, because as long as we're not focused on it that much, it makes it harder for those who want to leave Ukraine in the lurch to make their case.
	It's when we're pounding every day what the cost of this is.
	Focusing on the human damage within Ukraine, which is terrible, of course, but nine-tenths of the country is not affected by it from day to day.
	I mean, I'm not making light of it.
	All wars are hell, you know, as General Sherman famously said.
	But I think a downplaying of coverage of it makes it harder for those who want to leave before we can get a respectable end to it.
	It makes it harder for them to make their case.
	If the American public are
	Watching every day horror film from Ukraine, civilians being attacked, schools and hospitals and so forth, and are being reminded every night of how much it is costing the United States in particular to supply the Ukrainians, then the pressure to, comparatively speaking, disarm the Ukrainians opposite the Russians who've invaded them,
	But you used the phrase in your latest article, give war a chance.
	not being bombarded by it, then the Ukrainians have a better chance of doing their best in the long-awaited offensive.
	But I mean, I hope, by the way, that they do well in the offensive.
	But after that, we get some real momentum towards peace, because that war should not go on too much longer.
	But you use the phrase in your latest article, give war a chance.
	It seems as if both sides are committed for the long haul.
	Well, at least they're committed to see how it goes this spring.
	I mean, it seems to me that Putin has basically said, oh, I'll accept less than what I set out to get.
	I wanted to take back all Ukraine.
	I'm obviously not going to do that.
	So I'll accept a first bite of the cherry, at least.
	And he's laying claim to the places he claims to have annexed to Russia.
	And they had these completely spurious referendums with, you know, 95 percent votes for federal union.
	It's just nonsense, you know, the kind we're used to from the old communist elections.
	But and the Ukrainians are taking the position they want their entire country back.
	Now, I wish them well, but I don't think, as a practical matter, you can push the Russians out of what they've taken.
	You may be able to push them back a little bit.
	But, I mean, at that point, I think the greater interest of the West, and the U.S.
	in particular, is to end the war with Ukraine getting 75% of what it wanted, an absolutely unambiguous
	Guaranteed by all parties of its borders, albeit slightly reduced borders, and an assistance package from the world to put them back on their feet, and an assurance of membership in the EU as long as they demonstrate that they're not running corrupt, ludicrous governments that do nothing but steal money, which is what, unfortunately, they've had for most of their time as an independent country.
	And then Russia, for its part, then no longer has to cling to China like Olympus, And it's free to drift back towards the West, because Russia has more in common with us in the West than it does with China.
	And we don't want to lose Russia permanently to China.
	We will be discussing the whole third hour with the chief former Defense Intelligence Agency officer for Russia one-on-one.
	You don't want to miss it.
	In the meantime, we're talking to Lord Conrad Black.
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	How do you think it's going this week?
	I mean, my impression is that these people saying that, well, it's a, you know, the Republicans rally behind Trump when he's accused, but that'll settle down and, you know, people will see the danger of choosing a guy who's got these legal problems.
	My theory for what it's worth is, and I want to see if you think I'm talking through my hat here, Yes, the public, a large part of the public, even people who don't much care for Trump, are so appalled with this abuse of the justice system as just an arm of the Democratic Party to smear and immobilize another candidate from the other side, that the alarm at that will outpace
	reservations about Trump and that they're actually helping him.
	And not only that, it's not a one-off.
	That sentiment will be echoed if anything happens in Georgia and in D.C.
	So it's the most...
	Because those will be almost disperious.
	I mean, it's just nonsense.
	It's the most astrategic thing they can do.
	Hang on, stand by.
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	Is reality just too much?
	There's always NPR.
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	Just plug in my name Sebastian Gawker leave us a five-star review and share the links with your friends We are back with Lord Conrad Black the author most recently of Donald J. Trump a president like no other He has written a recent piece for the New York Sun on Ukraine what I have deemed perhaps to potentially be a forgotten war but no longer with the The Air National Guardsman's massive leak of classified documents.
	I want to talk about the race here.
	I want to talk about what's happening to President Trump, Lord Black.
	But one thing that your articles left me cogitating over.
	Can anything of this magnitude, such as a shooting war on the continent of Europe, be settled at all without robust leadership from the White House?
	It makes it a lot more difficult.
	The fact is that obviously the United States holds the key to this because the more they supply Ukraine, the harder and less sustainable it becomes for Russia.
	And the closer Russia gets to the point where in order to avoid a complete disaster, they need a general mobilization, which would be terribly onerous for them and extremely unpopular.
	And on the other hand, of course, if the United States starts to short supplies to Ukraine, they would quite soon find themselves with both hands tied behind their back and resistless against the Russian assault.
	The U.S. holds the Trump, not to make a pun, the Trump card.
	And how they play it is terribly important.
	And the logical thing is to allow the Russians...
	To retire without a total humiliation, but with a clear, absolutely unambiguous determination that henceforth there's no question about the independence and right to independence of Ukraine.
	It is indeed an independent country whose revised frontiers are guaranteed by Russia and NATO and the other neighbors, Belarus and Moldova, who might act as puppets of Russia.
	And not phony guarantees like we've given them before, such as when they, along with Belarus and Kazakhstan, surrendered the nuclear weapons they inherited from the USSR.
	And in those circumstances, Ukraine gets most of what it wanted.
	Russia gets enough not to be totally humiliated, so it can come back from being really joined at the hip junior partner, sort of Mussolini to Xi Jinping's Hitler, you know, a kind of very second-rate you know, a kind of very second-rate ally of an overbearing master, which China would be.
	I mean, the Russians will not enjoy being a junior ally of China very much.
	But at this present point that Putin has got them into it, It's the best they can do.
	And we want Russia in the Western world.
	We don't want to alienate them forever.
	We want them with us and not as essentially an adjunct to a China whom we regard quite rightly with suspicion.
	And no one regards China with more suspicion than Russia does.
	But it's the only port in the storm for them right now.
	Strange bedfellows.
	Let's turn our azimuth towards home to domestic issues here in the United States.
	The Judiciary Committee of Congress held a session in New York looking into what Bragg, the Manhattan DA, was doing and the unfettered crime in that city.
	And there was a reaction from veteran – I don't know what to call him.
	I'll be polite.
	I'll be charitable – journalist Eugene Robinson who had this to say about a congressional hearing happening in New York.
	Cut 10. - Yeah, it was a travesty, a sham, a circus.
	And as Mara said, it was not particularly effective because it could have been the basement committee hearing room on Capitol Hill for all the visuals we got from it.
	It's ridiculous, actually.
	I don't think it had any particular impact on Alvin Bragg.
	And these stunts basically are what this House majority can do.
	So Jim Jordan deciding to hold a judiciary hearing in New York is a stunt but what Alvin Bragg did isn't Lord Black?
	It's just the usual scandalous hypocrisy you get from the 90 percent rabidly anti-Trump national political media.
	It's just what you say.
	I mean, everything Trump does is a crime.
	Hillary Clinton destroys 33,000 subpoenaed emails.
	Ho-hum.
	Nothing.
	You know, Alvin Bragg produces a torqued up, stale dated misdemeanor, which in a proper trial with an impartial jury probably couldn't get a conviction on anyway, but winds it up into which in a proper trial with an impartial jury probably couldn't get a conviction on anyway, but winds it up into a crime because it
	But a crime which he won't tell us the nature of.
	Yeah, this is just a contortion of a demented imagination.
	And people on the left purport to take this seriously.
	I mean, you note that the Democrats couldn't get any reputable lawyer or legal expert to actually take it seriously.
	Nobody.
	I mean, Alan Dershowitz and Jonathan Turley are not Trump supporters, and they don't vote for him.
	And they would not vote for him if he ran again.
	But, you know, they were unequivocal in saying this is just nonsense.
	And there is no reason to believe that the reenactment of the invasion of Normandy to allow prurient FBI agents to rummage through millennia's underwear looking for evidence of violent, you know, violations of the Espionage Act is going to be any better.
	And as for, you know, 10 words to Raffensperger saying, you know, can't you find 10,000 votes constituting A crime in your dreams, you know?
	You know, I mean, it doesn't.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He's the author of numerous works of presidential history amongst others.
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	Perfect!
	Very good, very good.
	Well, look, I think he's looking pretty good, and I think he's... I mean, you see a lot more of him than I do, but... Am I right that he's downplaying the bombast?
	Yes.
	And playing the sort of serious, sober...
	This is a danger to the country.
	If we're just going to pitch out the rules of criminal procedure and allow one side to use the prosecution service to torment and harass the other side, we're not going to be a constitutional democracy anymore.
	And I think if he can just put that message out without being too histrionic about it, he wins.
	But am I being too... Well look, 20 months is a long time in politics.
	But right now, he's in the right direction, he's delivering the right content at the right frequency and the right pitch.
	The big issue, the unknown, the pig in the poke, is free and fair election.
	That's the question.
	And the RNC isn't being tough enough on it.
	We've got local actors, local state houses cleaning things up, but there's a long way to go to make sure we actually have a fair election.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, but I mean, at least the Georgia system that cheated in the last time has been reformed.
	Yes, yes.
	Some good things have been happening.
	Yeah.
	Well, at the least, He's got to get his legal team in order to challenge at once everywhere on the real constitutional issues, not Giuliani going around with one voter claiming he's been cheated.
	I mean, you're not going to overturn any elections with that.
	Yeah, no, no.
	But you know, the responsibility isn't the president's or Rudy's.
	It's really the institutional GOP.
	That's where the biggest weakness is right now.
	Well, as the party chairman, having got a bit of a scare in the last election, she picked up her game of it.
	Not that I have seen.
	Not that I have seen.
	Maybe behind the scenes, but the clock is ticking.
	Yeah.
	Well, you're right.
	They've got to do it.
	They've got to compete.
	Yep.
	All right.
	Thank you, Conrad.
	You've got the email for the new PA, and then I'll write you a separate one for Jordan.
	Splendid.
	Thanks so much.
	All right.
	God bless.
	Bye-bye.
	Bye-bye.
	All righty.
	Title for that one?
	Something about Ukraine, I imagine that was the broader topic.
	Yes.
	Title of his article would be a bit... What was... It was give war a chance.
	That'd be a bit interesting.
	One minute.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	The... What do we call it?
	It's not... The leaker.
	What are they calling it in the press?
	They're not using his name.
	The Dripper.
	They're calling him, what are they saying?
	What's his name?
	Oh, his name is... Jack the Dripper, they're saying.
	No.
	That's for the New York Post.
	But what are the headlines saying?
	What are they calling him?
	Pentagon Leaker.
	Oh, Pentagon Leaker?
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Um, the Pentagon Leaker story stinks.
	Is that good?
	Leaker story stinks.
	I think it makes sense.
	Is that good, Geoff?
	Is that good?
	Sure.
	Sure.
	Alright.
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	Let's go to Orlando.
	Sam, welcome to America First.
	Sir, thank you so much.
	Look forward to seeing you on the beautiful day before my birthday.
	Oh, are you going to be at the Inland Empire or where are you going to be?
	You know what?
	I'm going to be at the Seminole Harley.
	Oh, yes, the Harley... Sorry, the best place to have an event so far in my life is a... I told your butt last time.
	Harley Davidson?
	I know you wanted one, but I can only get me and my son one.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, that's not very nice of you.
	Don't I deserve a motorbike?
	Now listen, me and you both know.
	What?
	Gold is the only thing to invest in.
	Buy, buy, buy.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Gold and ammunition.
	I would say ammunition is a pretty good thing.
	Well yes, ammunition is definitely because you can use the gold for the point.
	So I like that.
	That's good.
	So at the same time, dirt is dirt cheap.
	So, the comparison between gold and dirt don't come nowhere near.
	But that's not why you called.
	Why did you call, Sam?
	What do you want to talk about?
	I called because you have a Puppet Master.
	And a Puppet Master runs all the puppets.
	The Puppet Master is the ones that know that we've been being ran by nothing but a bunch of puppets.
	They took him over.
	Pinocchio took over the old man.
	Well, now Trump came in and showed, no, the only way these puppets can move is if I move them.
	Don DeSantis, or not Don, but Ron DeSantis, cannot be.
	He's only a puppet.
	He does not know how to be a puppet master.
	He's never been taught that.
	He's always been told through his Navy, through his college, through any of his education, he's always been a follower.
	He's never been a freaking leader.
	Donald Trump got a 10 million freaking dollar loan and paid it right back to his father.
	Now that's a freaking leader.
	Now who's the puppet master then, as you're alleging, for the governor of Florida?
	Donald J. Trump.
	Sam, Sam, when I'm talking, you stop, okay?
	Let's have a conversation.
	Who is the puppet master for the governor of Florida?
	Donald J. Trump.
	Is the puppet master Ron DeSantis?
	Listen, what I'm saying is, you have to be a puppet master to run the country.
	I know, but you said... I'm trying to follow your logic, and you've got to be clear here, okay?
	You're saying the governor of Florida is a puppet.
	Alright, who's moving the strings?
	They would make Jerusalem... Okay, Sam, you're losing me, Sam.
	You're going off on tangents, okay?
	I'm going to ask you one more time.
	Who is the governor of Florida's puppet master, if he's a puppet?
	Ron DeSantis can never be Donald Trump and we've all said... Oh, Sam!
	Look, you're back in class, the teacher's asking a question, answer the question set, not another question, okay?
	Who, if he's a puppet, who's the puppet master for the governor of Florida?
	Again, The leader is Joe Biden, so now he's the puppet master, and all these rhinos are following a criminal warlord that's about to get us all killed.
	All right, I think we're having a communications problem here.
	I look forward to seeing you, my friend, at the Harley-Davidson dealership for our local station event where I met all kinds of amazing people.
	I mean Gene DeSantis, not Ron DeSantis, Gene DeSantis, who's been making the best holsters for concealed carry use since the 1970s.
	I never thought I'd meet the guy.
	I read about him in magazines.
	He was there.
	So are some very good cigar purveyors as well.
	And then lots of motorbikes!
	More motorbikes than you can shake a stick at.
	We will continue the discussion with Sam in person because I think we might have been on different frequencies there.
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	Oh, I wonder why the court case was delayed by 24 I wonder why the court case was delayed by 24 hours.
	Alright, coming in with breaking news, Mr. Alex.
	What do you think that means?
	Like, who wins in that settlement?
	What do you mean who wins?
	Fox sells, gives everything, all the money they can.
	No, I...
	I think it's good that they did that.
	No, I agree.
	You know how much the brand of Fox would have been damaged if there was daily coverage of Tucker Carlson's texts and everything else?
	No, it's not only that.
	The only people that are covering this are the media, and they're just leaking everything out that looks bad for Fox.
	CNN and MSNBC, they're making this entire election fight was about Dominion, which was about 2%.
	Yes, correct.
	And even Fox didn't even talk about it very much.
	Yes.
	I mean, the last couple weeks they've been hammering this over and over again.
	It looks bad for people who don't pay attention to it.
	For Trump.
	Right, right.
	So now it's a dead story.
	Yeah, everything's going to be sealed.
	For weeks, all the leaks.
	That is fascinating.
	Laminated!
	I can only imagine how much.
	I bet you not much at all.
	I bet it is.
	What do you think?
	I have no idea.
	What damages were they demanding originally?
	1.6 billion.
	1.6 billion?
	Which was ridiculous.
	How much did Bill O'Reilly, the woman who took Bill O'Reilly?
	50 million.
	50 million.
	A couple hundred million.
	I don't... I think probably between 100 and 200.
	But they haven't lost any business off of it.
	It doesn't matter.
	The damage is what would have been done in court.
	Why are you laughing, Manu?
	I just think it's funny, because like Geoff said, the Dominion thing was such a small part of it, but they successfully, once again, they took, like, basically a lie and made it the truth.
	Like the media as a whole, like this idea that, oh, it's all about Dominion, it was all about Dominion.
	Who even talked about Dominion on Fox?
	I can remember back to it.
	It went on for maybe a week, if not a couple days, and this is the network that had Neil Cavuto flashing away, oh, Trump's talking about election fraud.
	You know how many times they did that?
	They did that multiple times.
	There was only one person that hit it a bunch.
	Can you play me 12?
	12? 12!
	You know, I think that when we think about the SBA, it's about small businesses, but entrepreneurs are also small businesses.
	I've started to use the two phrases together because we don't want to leave anyone out because they're the same kind of people.
	They actually are the same people.
	Well, well, well, what happened this week?
	Oh yeah, they postponed the Dominion lawsuit against Fox.
	The court suspended it for a day.
	And what is the breaking news right now, Mr. G?
	What did you just hear on the wire?
	Fox News has settled its lawsuit with Dominion.
	Isn't that interesting?
	And we had a little argument in the break.
	You think they gave... I think they gave Dominion a lot of money.
	You don't?
	No, I don't think so.
	But hang on, how much did Bill O'Reilly have to shell out from Fox's money for that woman who accused him of... Altogether, I think it was $50 million.
	Okay, that's one gropey grope, you know.
	Yes.
	$50 million.
	You don't think Dominion got more than that?
	No.
	Eric?
	It's hard to say.
	Like you said, Mr. G has some pretty solid political instincts, so I can kind of see his side of the argument there, that it could have been...
	Probably more than O'Reilly, but considering what they were originally asking for, it was probably significantly less.
	And why is this important, Mr. G?
	Because they have been hammering now the last few weeks, they're pretty good at getting things mainstream, that they're tying it into Dominion, which was about 2% of the election fight.
	Not talked about very much, but that was the entire thing.
	So now this story is dead.
	Exactly.
	And it served their purpose for the left.
	They got all their leaks out there from the pre-trial, and now it's sealed so they can say, we have no idea.
	What Fox was trying to cover up, how much money they had to pay.
	Yeah, that was so predictable.
	All right, breaking news.
	Let's get back to your calls, but first things first.
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	You know, I think people are missing the point in the sense that the people that are talking about IT technology becoming sentient and taking on a... Hold on, hold on.
	Let's listen to him.
	This is Elon Musk talking about artificial intelligence.
	He sounds rather afraid, Mike.
	This is cut six.
	What's happening is they're training the AI to lie.
	Yes.
	It's bad.
	To lie.
	That's exactly right.
	And to withhold information.
	To lie and, yes.
	Yeah, exactly.
	To either comment on some things, not comment on other things, but not to say what the data actually demands that it say.
	Exactly.
	So, Mike, why is this important?
	Well, oh, you know, the thing about it is, I'm more worried about who controls it in the near future and what their agenda is.
	And another interesting thing, I know you'll like this because you like Blade Runner, but if it was to evolve, you've got the Terminator, who stays a machine, and the Blade Runner, who actually You're mixing franchises there, my friend.
	You're mixing Terminator with Blade Runner.
	Nexus 6 is not the T-series of robot.
	But carry on.
	Well, you know, I'm looking at the Dems that are already drooling over this technology.
	You know, they want to put forth a bunch of new regulations, and you know what those regulations would be geared to do?
	They're controlling this new technology.
	I mean, it's really obvious, like the New Green Deal, they're going to, quote unquote, save the world.
	Well, it's all about power.
	You're absolutely right when it comes to that.
	Whether it's the Green New Deal or anything else, or these new laws about internet, it is absolutely all about power.
	Thank you, Mike.
	Tom, Atlanta, line three.
	Hey, Sebastian.
	Hey.
	Hey, so two things.
	I'll try to get to the main point, and then we can discuss if you have time.
	First is, I just drove by a giant American flag, and it made me think Hang on, where are you?
	Are you in Atlanta?
	Is that where you saw the flag?
	Yes, sir.
	Beautiful.
	Well, north of Atlanta.
	Carry on.
	I used the American flag outside of business.
	Anyway, it made me think of who do I want to see in the White House during the 250th birthday party of the United States of America, Seb?
	Who do I want to see and who sure as hell do I not want to see?
	In the White House.
	And that motivates me to no end, sir.
	That is a beautiful, beautiful thought.
	All right, that's the first thing.
	Carry on.
	Okay, the second thing was the earlier caller talking about the commercial real estate catastrophe upon us or whatever you want to call it.
	People need homes, but offices are empty, especially because of COVID.
	And therein lies the opportunity, sir.
	Let's make these Commercial places to the extent possible with apprentice programs or whatever to turn some of those into homes or apartments or condos or whatever.
	It's sitting there, low-hanging fruit.
	I know there's some, you know, zoning and this and that, but I mean, these people have to be convincible in government that are going to make those decisions that Yes, we need these buildings occupied.
	Yes, even for Habitat for Humanity is wonderful.
	What about for our veterans, Tom?
	Thank you!
	Right?
	I mean, just take it and run with it, sir.
	Yeah.
	There's all kinds of possibilities.
	I can't tell you where I live, right?
	So, you know, outside the nation's capital, just driving past these absolutely huge, enormous buildings that are empty because everybody's working from home.
	Thank you, Tom.
	God bless.
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	I don't believe that number.
	Even if it's half of that!
	I don't believe that number.
	It doesn't matter!
	It's gotta be, okay, half of that.
	Who got it right?
	Who was closer?
	That's what the lawyer said.
	First of all, when have you ever heard of a settlement where it's public?
	I was gonna say, yeah, isn't it supposed to be in private?
	Jeffy, Jeffy, Jeffy.
	It's Deadline Hollywood reporting it, first of all.
	Alright.
	I still don't believe that number.
	Eric, who do you believe?
	What's the number?
	I didn't see it.
	787 million.
	Why wouldn't you just go to trial at that point?
	Because there was billions they were talking about.
	That's about half of what they were asking for.
	Look, they make $4 billion a year.
	Dominion, I guarantee you, is not even worth the entire company's $700 million.
	Yeah, that's... Totally.
	But you've got to... What is it?
	Lost business or something they were suing for?
	It's got to be something that...
	If anything, they gained a business out of it.
	I bet you that number's not going to be real in a day or two.
	You think it's going to be lower?
	You usually never know.
	Well, yeah, that's the idea with the settlement most of the time.
	That's unbelievable that they paid them.
	So now you believe it?
	If they did, I think it's unbelievable.
	Eric, whose side are you on?
	You're better off going to trial than fighting an appeal for years and years and years.
	Right.
	Unless, unless what they have is very embarrassing.
	That's what I think it is more, too.
	The media fallout.
	The media fallout.
	America first.
	This can't be the last segment of the second hour, Eric.
	What's going on?
	Hey, time flies when you're having fun, right?
	It sure does, it sure does.
	Reports aren't confirmed, and Jeff refuses to believe them if they are confirmed, that Fox News is paying Dominion $787 million.
	Wowza, wowza, wowza.
	All right, let's have some fun now.
	Another amazing piece of sagacious wisdom deployed from the cackler Kamala Harris.
	It's a doozy.
	Cut 12.
	You know, I think that when we think about the SBA, it's about small businesses, but entrepreneurs are also small businesses.
	I've started to use the two phrases together, because we don't want to leave anyone out, because they're the same kind of people, they actually are the same people.
	Hang on, stop the presses.
	Entrepreneurs and small business... Eric?
	I'm 52 years old.
	I thought small businesses were like the government.
	I'm struggling even.
	I'm speechless.
	I can't even understand what she was saying if I'm being completely honest with you.
	But she's saying that small businesses are also entrepreneurs.
	Isn't that incredible?
	When she finds a certain word that she just discovered, she loves playing around with it non-stop for the next few days.
	So I think she came across the word entrepreneurs and now she really, really likes it.
	Geoff, I'm really struggling here.
	Could she be as stupid as AOC?
	Well, not only that, the entire campaign against Romney was the binders full of women, and then when he said corporations are people.
	Remember that was repeated over and over and over again?
	She really is stupid, isn't she?
	I'm trying to figure this one.
	I don't remember this before she became vice president.
	No!
	That's what's unbelievable to me.
	Well, maybe she just kept her mouth shut.
	Let's go to another amazing woman.
	This is Kathy Griffin, who Wants everybody to be sorry for her.
	Cut it!
	Whatever, you can laugh or whatever, but I've been diagnosed with complex PTSD and um...
	It's they call it an extreme case.
	So I'm I would love to hear from you guys about those of you that have.
	Yeah, I'll feed the dogs like that helps me to get up and feed the dogs.
	Anyway, I'd love to hear from you guys about depression or anxiety or stuff like that.
	How you cope.
	If any of you know my story, you'll understand that this this really started for me about five and a half years ago.
	Link, you know the cancer didn't help.
	Wink.
	Maybe she wouldn't have PTSD if she didn't hold up bloodied, mannequin-severed heads of President Trump.
	What do you think?
	Maybe that would help?
	Kathy, you want us to feel sorry for you?
	Nah.
	Not happening.
	Not here.
	Not in America First Land.
	MAGALAND!
	What's really going on in Ukraine with Russia?
	We're going to have the former chief Russia officer from the Defense Intelligence Agency.
	You don't want to go anywhere.
	America first.
	Funny music.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	Would you?
	Who's Randy?
	No.
	No. No. Find it. Find it. Find it. Do do do do do. No media, right?
	No, I thought they moved it.
	Ha ha!
	Ha ha!
	Ready, Alex?
	We'll be back with the lads from Trigonometry after these messages.
	Stay with us for more from Constantin Kissin and Francis Foster here on America First.
	You're listening to America First with me, Sebastian Gorka, and the lads from Trigonometry.
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	Welcome back to America First 101 with the lads from Trigonometry.
	Mana mana.
	The Russian tactic is primitive.
	They burn down and destroy everything they see.
	They send thugs to the frontlines.
	They send convicts to the war.
	They threw everything against us, similar to the other tyranny, which is in the Battle of the Bulge.
	Through everything it had against the free world, just like the brave American soldiers which held their lines and fought back Hitler's forces during the Christmas of 1944, brave Ukrainian soldiers are doing the same to Putin's forces this Christmas.
	I do believe that's the first time ever, I think I'm historically accurate, in saying someone in a sweatshirt addressed the joint session of Congress.
	The embattled President of Ukraine, very gravely deep voice for a short guy, he has led his country in an incredible 14th month fight against an invading force.
	What is the reality today?
	Does he have a chance to maintain independence?
	How does it connect to the breaking news of the last few days of a Massachusetts Air National Guard individual releasing top secret information to members on his Discord chat room?
	Let's talk to one person whose opinion and analysis Thank you very much, sir.
	when it comes to all of these issues.
	She literally wrote the book.
	It's called Putin's Playbook.
	Former Defense Intelligence Agency officer for Russia, Rebecca Koffler.
	Welcome back in studio.
	Thank you very much, sir.
	It's such a pleasure to be here with you and your audience.
	I don't think we have enough time.
	I don't think an hour is long enough.
	But I've got a long list of questions I've been preparing to ask you.
	For those who missed our previous discussions, just briefly say where you came from originally, where you were born, and then what you ended up doing for the U.S.
	government.
	Sure.
	I was born and raised in the former Soviet Union, the country that no longer exists.
	And it was killed by socialism, the same kind of system that Biden and his apparatchiks wants to bring here into my adopted homeland.
	My mother raised me to go to America because my parents were anti-communist.
	They wanted me to go to the country that is the country of freedom, justice, and opportunity.
	So I came in 1989, and after the September 11th terrorist attacks, I wanted to go into the intelligence community and serve my beautiful adopted homeland because I'm patriotic, I want to help the country, and I served in the intelligence community with the DIA, Defense Intelligence Agency, which is a counterpart to CIA, military counterpart to CIA.
	It's the DOD's intelligence gathering entity.
	Right.
	So what we do is we track our foreign adversaries' military doctrines and strategies and military capabilities and try to assess their intention, whether, you know, it's Russia and, you know, if Putin is going to attack Ukraine, which I actually predicted, as you know, in this book, Putin's Playbook, or whether it's China we're trying to assess.
	Will China go to war and try to secure control over Taiwan?
	And so these are the kinds of things that we do.
	And then after I left the intelligence community, I wrote the book, Putin's Playbook.
	With rather good timing, unfortunately.
	I'm curious, I haven't asked you this before, but as somebody who hailed from the Soviet Union, How were you looked at?
	How were you received inside the U.S.
	intelligence community?
	Was that a very positive thing in terms of your knowledge or was there suspicion?
	What was it like for you as a former citizen of the Soviet Union to be an intelligence officer working against the Russian Federation?
	It varied.
	It took me seven years to get into the intelligence community.
	Yes, seven.
	And I got five job offers from every possible three-letter agency, you know, CIA, NSA, FBI.
	Before the D.I.A.
	Finally, D.I.A.
	was the one that was able to get me through the system.
	Because remember, it's so much easier to get someone through the system if you're born in the United States.
	To get a clearance.
	To get a clearance.
	If you don't speak the foreign language, if you've never been outside of the country.
	If you've got one relative outside America, everything changes.
	Exactly.
	But the negative impact of this type of philosophy is that there are a lot of people who are not qualified for their jobs.
	They can get a clearance easily, but they don't have the qualifications.
	Exactly.
	But the truth is, intelligence does not come in English, right?
	It comes in the original... Strange!
	They don't speak English in the Kremlin.
	It's so weird.
	Imagine that.
	I really have so many questions I want to ask you.
	What was it like once you got in, once you filled out your SF-86, got your clearance?
	Was it as you expected?
	Was it better?
	Was it a disappointment?
	What was it like once you were inside the puzzle palace?
	Right.
	So it was both.
	It was amazing and frustrating.
	It was amazing because it's the best job you can ever have.
	You know, it's so rewarding to be able to, you know, read and get your eyes on super, you know, super duper top secret and above intelligence so that you can interpret it and so you can help our country, you know, protect it from threats.
	What was frustrating to me is the amount of bureaucracy Oh my goodness, and instead of like actually delivering on the mission, all of the apparatchiks I call them, the bureaucrats.
	The American apparatchiks.
	The American apparatchiks.
	They're just like the Soviet apparatchiks.
	They want to follow the rules instead of doing the stupidest rules.
	No innovation.
	Inertia, if you've got a new idea, that's a threat, that's a problem.
	Exactly.
	I called it after five years in the Defense Department and then my time in the White House, my phrase for it, Rebecca, is the tyranny of mediocrity.
	Yes.
	Being mediocre and just keeping your head down is the priority.
	That's what... Actually being challenging, Coming up with new ideas.
	No, no, no.
	That's a threat to the nomenclature, to the apparatchiks.
	Exactly.
	That's exactly my experience, Seb.
	In fact, so my first few years, I shot up very, you know, fast, very high into GS-14 high, you know, level.
	I briefed the White House, the Obama's White House National Security Council.
	I briefed NORTHCOM, EUCOM, STRATCOM.
	The regional commands.
	Exactly.
	The four stars, right?
	My level of clearance was such that if I went in to brief, let's say, a UCOM commander or a NORTHCOM commander or a SHARCOM commander, his deputy could not be in the briefing.
	Pretty exclusive briefings.
	Right.
	So, at the same time, we were able to downgrade some of the stuff.
	So, I was able to brief NATO, you know, 28 countries at that time, you know, the defence ministers.
	At a slightly lower level.
	Right, slightly, right?
	A lower level.
	But I briefed them in the run-up to Putin's invasion of Crimea, right?
	And so, that just shows to you that we knew about the Russian threat.
	This is not a surprise.
	It's not a surprise at all.
	And Biden was the vice president at that time.
	What was the reception in the Obama administration when he was saying, Oh, look, Putin has said, you know, 10 years ago, Ukraine has no right to exist.
	Five years ago, the Baltic states are illegitimate.
	What was the reaction from the, you know, the policy decision makers?
	Right.
	And they didn't want to hear it.
	And not only that, not only Putin said that, we have highly, highly sensitive, you know, top secret, way, way, way above intelligence that confirms what Putin says.
	So their intelligence from inside, so source is there.
	So it's not just a speech he gives on May Day.
	It's confirmation of what their intentions are.
	It's communication intercepts, right?
	Signals of intelligence.
	Both from satellites and through cyber.
	We had exquisite intelligence in Russia.
	But they didn't want to hear you.
	They didn't want to hear that.
	And then along comes Biden, the president.
	Four years of peace and tranquility when we're in the White House.
	Along comes Biden, the surrender of Afghanistan.
	I can see it, I can imagine it now.
	13 warfighters murdered by ISIS, the people clinging off the planes as we surrender Bagram, and I can just see Vlad in the Kremlin saying, OK guys, start the engines of the tanks.
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	All right, come in with the Biden cut.
	Actually, Yeah, coming with the Biden Cup.
	Mm-mm.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So I think what you're going to see is that Russia will be held accountable if it invades.
	And it depends on what it does.
	It's one thing if it's a minor incursion and then we end up having to fight about what to do and not do, etc.
	Unbelievable.
	Truly, truly stunning.
	That was before the invasion.
	That's the commander-in-chief here in America saying our response instead of saying no invasion of Ukraine is permissible because you're not allowed to do that not allowed to invade other countries and steal their territory that was a taboo that was put in place after World War two instead of saying no it's all wrong we have the head of state of America saying
	Well, it depends what level of incursion we're talking about, which is probably why, Rebecca, to this day, a Russian, a British friend of mine confirmed to me today that they are still using the phrase special military operation in Russia and say, oh, no, this isn't a war.
	This is just a special military thing because, oh, no, no, bombing maternity clinics is not a war.
	Well, I'll ask you what the effect of a statement like that is in the Kremlin when Biden says that, how dangerous that is.
	But first, let's put you back in your cubicle, back in your office at DIA.
	Can you give us a sit rep, a situation report of the last 14 months?
	Because Surprisingly, Ukraine has done quite well.
	So, give us your analysis of the war to date, briefly, in terms of Ukrainian performance and Russian performance.
	Well, Ukraine has outperformed all expectations, right?
	The majority of intelligence analysts, actually myself included, expected Russia to run over Ukraine in a matter of, you know, a couple of weeks, right?
	And that did not happen.
	And a lot of it has something to do with President Zelensky, I believe, because he has inspired his fighters.
	He is, you know, he's an actor, right?
	And he brought all of his charisma and his talent.
	His communication skills.
	Communication skills, both to galvanize his own people, both the military guys, the troops, And also the civilians, but most importantly, you know, the Western camp.
	The United States and most European countries, especially the British, have been able to provide the level of support that no one expected, right?
	So we have provided tremendous amount of weaponry, you know, not just like the night vision goggles and blankets, right?
	Blankets of Obama.
	- And the MREs, but real stuff, right?
	We're talking stingers, javelins, and all the way to our Patriot missile defense system that the Russians actually consider as a strategic level system.
	You know, tanks, right?
	Who would have a thought?
	So that made a difference.
	That changed the battlefield dynamics completely for Ukraine.
	The Russians, on the other hand, with all their strategic know-how, because they've spent decades developing a strategy, not just targeting the battlefield, but also targeting the rest of the world, the population of the United States and Europe, That is the single line convoys.
	That if you hit the guy in the front and in the back, everybody else can be killed one by one.
	that strategic press, that was tactical incompetence that no one anticipated. - That is these single line convoys, that if you hit the guy in the front and in the back, everybody else can be killed one by one.
	I mean, just rule number one, do not have a tank convoy in a single line. - Right.
	They didn't also, they didn't anticipate that Elon Musk, you know, would let Ukrainian use Starlink.
	I mean, these space assets that support warfighting, that right now, and everything depends on that, right?
	Navigation, targeting, precision strike, missile warning, so the Ukrainians were able to benefit from that.
	We also provided real-time intelligence to them.
	So, at this point, the war isn't in a quagmire, right?
	It's a war of attrition.
	And because of the way that the two countries' populations, you know, Russia outmatches Ukraine.
	143 million vis-a-vis 43 million.
	Putin does not care about lives, right?
	It's the meat grinder effect.
	The meat grinder, totally.
	And the Russians have plenty of flesh to throw in that meat grinder.
	And that's how they won wars historically.
	Will that work again?
	Well, it depends on what we mean by will that work.
	Well, can he...
	Can he use the meat grinder without generating serious amounts of domestic tension?
	Because you remember in Afghanistan, after about six or seven years of invasion, the grandmothers started protesting at the funerals of the privates who were being brought home.
	Now, that was the Soviet Union, and they could kind of ignore that, but only so much.
	So, there is no organized opposition, but is the meat grinder strategy as easy today for the Kremlin to use as it was under the Soviet Union?
	It's not as easy, because under the Soviet Union, Well, let's just focus, it doesn't matter what it was, let's just focus on Russia right now.
	Putin is vicious.
	He's an assassin, right?
	This is why you see today, you know, Karamurza, Vladimir Karamurza, was just, you know, given 25 years, right, in prison.
	In a way, it's actually testimony to Karamurza's Significance.
	Work.
	Significance.
	Explain who he is.
	He's a vocal, you know, Putin's critic.
	Has been for years.
	He is opposition.
	He actually has both Russian and British passports.
	His family actually resides in the United States.
	And he was poisoned.
	You know, poison, remember, is the standard Russian spycraft tool.
	Polonium.
	Polonium, or Novichok, the weapons-grade chemical that the Skripals were poisoned with, and so the same thing.
	And unfortunately, the FBI dropped the case on Karamurza when he was poisoned, because it led up all the way into the Kremlin.
	But the reason I'm mentioning this guy is to demonstrate how Putin has weaponized The Russian law to neutralize opposition.
	All right, we have to talk about that, because sadly there might be some similarities to what's happening here in America.
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	All right, we're going to hold that thought for a second about weaponization of intelligence and law enforcement.
	I've got some questions that my good friend Konstantin Kissin provided for me, who's born in the Soviet Union.
	His wife is Ukrainian, visited Ukraine a lot.
	He says, Ask Rebecca, if there is to be an end to this at some point, what are the conditions Putin could agree to and survive in the Kremlin?
	Because he has Crimea.
	He's got to break away quote-unquote republics.
	There's other territories and Bukha and everything else that he wants to maintain control over.
	Is there a settlement that he could agree to which is short of controlling all of Ukraine?
	So that's a tough one, Seb.
	A couple of months ago I would have said that Putin could settle for the roughly 18-20% territory that he has captured, right?
	So what he's captured, he'd be happy with that?
	Plus Crimea, obviously, right?
	So that's what my intelligence analysis told me at that point.
	As long as we recognize those territories as Russian, which we probably would never do, because it just would embolden every damn totalitarian out there to just chop off another country.
	America gave in, so, oh, I'll do it too.
	I'll take Taiwan.
	Right, right.
	But regardless, that's what my assessment was, he would have accepted.
	At this point, I believe that he is just benefiting from maintaining this war indefinitely, waging this strategy of attrition, relentless attrition of manpower, because he has been able to relentless attrition of manpower, because he has been able to galvanize and to form an entire anti-U.S. and anti-Western coalition, China, Iran, North Korea, and they are willing to help Putin
	Iran, North Korea, and they are willing to help Putin militarily.
	And as long as he continues this war, right, Xi Jinping is happy because we are hyper-focused on Ukraine.
	Xi Jinping and his military strategists have assessed that we are not capable of prosecuting a two-theater war.
	Which for decades was American strategic basis, that we must be able, as the world's superpower, to prosecute a two-front, two-theater war.
	And now you're saying that under Biden, we've lost that.
	Yes, absolutely, because look at General Milley.
	I mean, he's been trying to make US the world's leader in gender pronouns, right?
	In the workers' military.
	But it's okay, because he's very smart, because he told us that Kiev would fall in three days.
	Right.
	So we know that Millie's qualified.
	Millie has been a disaster for U.S.
	military.
	I mean, he presided over the disastrous withdrawal out of Afghanistan.
	I prefer surrender.
	Surrender, you know.
	I mean, he surrendered, what, $85 or $95 billion worth of high-tech, top-secret equipment, military hardware, that Taliban has their hands now on, and Putin has negotiated to get some of that weaponry out.
	I mean, you can't make this stuff up.
	The level of strategic incompetence in this administration, whether it's national security apparatus or the rest of the government, is stunning.
	With nobody getting fined.
	Nobody getting fired.
	Let alone resigning.
	Exactly.
	And these are all Obama 2.0 team, right?
	It's the same people who are trying... The Jake Sullivan's, the Lisa Monaco's are all actually Obama's people.
	Yes, yes.
	They were the ones who were trying to be friends with Putin.
	When we were telling them Putin wants to reconstitute the Soviet Union, right?
	He wants to attack Ukraine.
	They were telling me, I burst them as I just told you.
	So you're in the DIA and the reaction was?
	The reaction was, no, no, no.
	They're not going to do that.
	And we're not planning to go to war with Russia, so why are you telling us about preparing for war?
	I'm like, well, you are not planning to go to war.
	But Putin says that you might want to listen.
	I think it was Trotsky who said that you may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.
	Exactly.
	So if your enemy wants to be Militant.
	It doesn't matter whether you don't want to be.
	Exactly.
	And Biden was the VP at that time.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	No, no, no.
	He was the point man for Ukraine.
	Let's just add that.
	Exactly.
	The point man for American Foreign policy with regards to Ukraine, who, remember, said to Ukraine, to the then government in Kiev, if you don't fire your chief prosecutor, I will hold up the $1 billion of US tax credits.
	And he boasted about, and son of a gun, six hours later, they fired the chief prosecutor, who just by the way, you know, a little pecan factoid of history, was the same chief prosecutor who was investigating Burisma, the company that was paying his son, Hunter Biden, $83,000 a month.
	But it's just a coincidence, we're talking to Rebecca Koffler, the author of Putin's playbook, follow her right now, Rebecca0132 on Truth Social and Twitter.
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	Alright, I've got so many things I want to talk about.
	Alright, two more things.
	The words conservative and left-wing don't kind of work in Russia, really.
	I'll just say hardliners.
	My friend was saying there are hardliners to the right of Putin who are saying he's weak.
	These are people like the former Donbass Minister of Defense, Igor Gerkin, who says he's got to declare war.
	None of this, you know, limited military action.
	And they're criticizing Putin from the right.
	Is this significant?
	Is this controlled opposition?
	Is there any threat domestically to Putin or has he put in prison and killed anybody who is a serious threat?
	Two points on that.
	First, I don't believe there's a serious threat to Putin, because there's quite a bit of, you know, a long list of things that one needs to do before, between, like, saying, OK, we're going to overthrow Putin, right, and actually executing things.
	And one of those includes staying alive.
	It's staying alive, exactly.
	Because remember, Putin has collected for years dossiers on each person that's around him.
	As a former KGB officer.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	So, of course.
	And so he knows where all the bodies are buried.
	Number two.
	The circle around him is extremely small, and they're under constant surveillance, right?
	It's through SORM.
	There's the technical surveillance system that monitors 24-7.
	There are emails, there are phone calls.
	Like, it's very difficult to stage, to plan, and then execute a coup.
	Without him fighting out.
	Without him fighting out, right.
	Without him fighting out, right.
	There's also, like, he still enjoys 79% approval rating, which means only 20% of people, you know, are against him and against his policy.
	There's also, like, he still enjoys 79% approval rating, which means only 20% of people, you know, are against him and against his policy.
	With that few people, you can't really stage a massive, you know, resistant movement.
	And plus, on top of that, he has intimidated, he's put the fear of God into everybody.
	You know, he poisoned Navalny, he poisoned, you know, Karamurzyk, Skorpaz, Kotarkovsky in prison.
	Like, and people who are advising him, like Patrushev, he's even a worse, you know, killer, if you will, than Putin, because he's the guy that presided over those Moscow apartment bombings.
	That actually propelled Putin to the presidency.
	To the presidency, exactly.
	When the secret services actually killed Russians in Russia and blamed the Chechens.
	Exactly.
	And then on the second point, you said about the hardliners, right?
	Yes, who criticized him from the extreme.
	Exactly.
	I don't believe that is genuine, Seb.
	I believe this is also staged by Putin.
	To give him an excuse.
	Exactly.
	Because how are you saying this stuff on social media and staying alive?
	Exactly.
	You'd be dead already.
	I hear all the time how Wagner group, you know, proportions, criticizes.
	And all of a sudden Russian media picks it up.
	No, it's just not.
	Because there's no such a thing as free media in Russia.
	So as long as you read it, that means Putin approved it.
	So it's not a genuine opposition.
	Let's go back to whether the war can end in Ukraine.
	So he has the meat grinder effect.
	There's no domestic resistance to him or possible one that has a chance.
	What is the end state that he could settle for?
	If this goes on for 10 years, Zelensky, you know, maintains control.
	They keep fighting.
	The West keeps supporting them.
	Is there a deal he could agree to that would be face-saving, or would he look like a loser domestically?
	Could he say, OK, Donbass, Crimea, these are ours, and this is new Russia.
	And I end the war?
	Or is that impossible for a KGB colonel who's been saying for 20 years Ukraine has no right to exist?
	So what he is banking on is that the West will lose interest and patience with Ukraine.
	And eventually, you know, the Ukrainian people will be just so exhausted from all of these hardships.
	I mean, remember, there's lack of water, electricity in big part of Ukraine, right?
	Fortunately, the winter time is over, but there was no heat.
	And so that's what he is banking on, and eventually he just wants this conflict to turn into a frozen conflict, similar to what we already have, you know.
	Like South Ossetia and Nagorno-Karabakh.
	Exactly.
	Right, right, right.
	And then everybody will forget about it, and he will de facto control, continue to control the Donbas and the Crimea, and then he can spin it through his propaganda machine to his people as a victory, and You know, and if we were to recognize those parts, or even some of the countries were to recognize, then he would completely, you know, look victorious.
	Yeah, remember, it's two different realities, what we're experiencing and what the Russian people are hearing on TV and through all of the social media.
	Because they don't have access to what we do.
	No.
	Right, right.
	My gosh, I still have to talk about... All right, so many things.
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	It would be remiss of me before I ask my last question to get your take on this Massachusetts Air National Guard airman that leaked allegedly hundreds of classified documents to his Gamer Buddies Discord chat room.
	uh I'll give you one reaction I had, or two, one technical and one political.
	My first reaction is, so-called conservatives After the arrest, labeling him a hero and a whistleblower, and I told them that's not the definition of a whistleblower.
	A whistleblower is someone who sees corruption and gives what he sees the evidence of corruption to Congress, to a newspaper, to tell the American people whatever it's about.
	Massacres in Vietnam, Watergate, the conventional wisdoms, but sharing Top secret information to 20 guys on your video game chat room.
	It's not about the public interest.
	It's about showing off.
	So it's not about heroism or whistleblowing.
	So that's my first, my reaction.
	I'd be curious for yours.
	And the second thing is people say, Oh, look!
	We've been lied to about what's happened in Ukraine.
	There are special forces there, and Ukraine is much weaker than we've been told.
	And I have to remind people, just because it's on a map that says top secret, or a document that says top secret, doesn't mean it's necessarily correct.
	Intelligence isn't magic.
	You know that intelligence has a subjective element.
	There are facts and you interpret what you are seeing.
	Just because a statement about the strength of Ukraine or X, Y and Z is in a document doesn't mean it's gospel.
	So your reaction to the events of the last four days?
	Well, first of all, this guy obviously is a criminal.
	I mean, he disclosed such sensitive intelligence.
	Some of the briefings were top secret, SI, which means comes from signals, dash G. You know what that means?
	HCS, that's human, right?
	That means that someone... Human assets.
	It's human assets that if that person or people were to be discovered, they're going to be executed, okay?
	Next, foreign government, FGI, foreign government information.
	That means that our relationships with whoever provided that intelligence is going to be constrained.
	They're going to think twice before they share that intelligence with us, right?
	No foreign, you also know what that means.
	Only US citizens with clearances can see it.
	So it's irresponsible.
	The guy's clearly sick.
	There's an issue with him if he thought it was okay to disclose.
	Because when we read into that information, especially the HCS, it's very clearly written that Disclosure means death to that elimination is the word that they use, right?
	And so, so that's number one.
	There's no question.
	He's not a hero of any kind or a whistleblower.
	The second thing about the difference between what you see in the intelligence reports and how you interpret it.
	Yes, there are raw reports, right?
	Raw intelligence in this Fintel finished intelligence.
	So whatever comes in, Through all these various channels, whether it's imagery from the satellite, communication intercepts, you know, foreign leaders or military officers, what else, you know, cyber, whatever, everything comes in, and then as an analyst, you put it all together, and you provide a report, whether it's, you know, a President PDB, the Presidential Daily Brief,
	Or an individual report, so there's a subjective element to it that an analyst, you know, added and packaged it.
	This is the data, what could this mean?
	And sometimes there's a big disagreement, you know, between the agencies, between the analysts.
	This is why they have all these footnotes that, you know, this is the analyst's An analysis, but agency X does not concur.
	Agency C says no, we interpret this differently.
	So this is what James Jesus Angleton, this is why he called intelligence a wilderness of mirrors.
	It's not mathematics.
	It's not Euclidean physics or maths.
	It is an art form as much as it is anything else.
	All right, last question I need to ask you.
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	Is your recent piece for that fabulous website, it is The Federalist.
	I want to talk to you about my former boss.
	You said in the article, or the headline of the article, is that there's only one person, only one U.S.
	leader Vladimir Putin actually fears.
	Who is that, Rebecca?
	Donald J. Trump, our 45th president of the United States.
	And maybe 47th.
	And maybe and hopefully our 47th.
	I mean, look, right now America is burning during the Biden administration.
	The Russians are grabbing, you know, U.S.
	citizens, you know, like the reporter Ivan Gershkovich.
	China, Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, right?
	They are joining forces right now.
	Biden is basically pushing all of the adversaries together and allies away.
	And so-- - Why did Putin do nothing for four years? - Because he feared Trump.
	It's very, very simple.
	No, Trump never called him any, you know, the killer and all of these other things that Biden... But this is all virtue signaling that Biden is doing.
	And Putin is not afraid of words.
	He's afraid of action.
	So, President Trump did five specific things that put the fear of God into Putin because he realized that Trump understands Putin's strategy.
	And he's struck at the heart of, with all of these things.
	Give me some examples.
	Yes.
	He developed the space force that countered Russia's space warfare doctrine.
	And I want to read to you the quote that President Trump said, because some of the leftists, they basically, you know, say this stuff how President Trump is not smart and this and that.
	Listen to this.
	President Trump said that space let me, space is becoming the world's newest warfighting domain.
	Okay?
	And he was able to explain that.
	And he stood up the Space Force in order to counter Putin's doctrine because what does Space Force do?
	It protects our own satellites on which we depended.
	And the Russians understood that we're dependent on those.
	And they developed the capability to strike at those vulnerabilities.
	Well, President Trump stood up our Space Force.
	That is going to develop capability and is developing right now capability, counter space weapons that is going to target Russian constellation and therefore hold Russian assets at risk.
	That negates Putin's strategy.
	And another one, supremely important aspect of what President Trump did, he authorized the development of low-yield tactical nuclear warhead, a sea-launched nuclear cruise missile for our own forces, right?
	And that negated Putin's escalate-to-de-escalate strategy that President Trump described in his national security strategy.
	The minute that Biden comes to power, he cancels that program.
	So Putin... Which makes our nuclear arsenal irrelevant because all we have is strategic weapons which can only be used if there's a worldwide conflagration.
	Exactly.
	Putin is saying, well, we could use low-threshold tactical nukes.
	America can't respond because they don't have them.
	Well, Donald Trump said, well, we should have them too.
	Exactly!
	Donald Trump said... To cancel it out!
	To cancel it out, to have the battlefield capability.
	Because we're not going to wait until, you know, Putin launches the World War III, which is pretty much what Biden said.
	Oh, we have, you know, we're afraid of nuclear armageddon, right?
	Why are you afraid?
	It's because you don't have the battlefield capability to counter-strike Putin's capability.
	It's a mess.
	So this is why Putin is afraid, right?
	That's why we need this man back in the White House.
	As I said when I was serving as his deputy, I stole a phrase from the Marine Corps to explain what we were doing in the White House.
	America under President Trump, no better friend, no worse enemy.
	Last thing, as we were prepping for today's show, you said something about the recent events in Manhattan.
	You were born in the Soviet Union.
	You understand the weaponization of the national security state.
	Is it an exaggeration to say that we're witnessing that develop here in America?
	No, it's not an exaggeration.
	I'm frightened with what's going on, Seb.
	It's basically what I see right now is the leftists are using Putin's playbook to target President Trump and neutralize his 2024 campaign.
	That's classic interference in U.S.
	elections.
	This is what the Russians and the Chinese do.
	And now the leftists, the American Bolsheviks, they're using Putin's playbook.
	Khodorkovsky being arrested on a tax evasion charge and being given a 20-year sentence as the most powerful oligarch with political pretensions who created a political party.
	How is that different, him being arrested by Putin's thugs, than President Trump being charged by Alvin Bragg on spurious Business misstatements.
	What's the difference?
	It's not different at all.
	This is exactly what they're doing.
	They're using the Soviet playbook and it's a very dangerous precedent because if that is done, then the Republic and if that, God forbid, removes President Trump from running in 2024, Then next time around, the Republicans are going to say, hmm, what prevents us from doing that today?
	And it's going to spiral out of control.
	And it's going to basically slide.
	We're going to be sliding towards totalitarianism.
	Without a revolution, without violence on the streets, it would have been done by the political elite behind closed doors.
	And then we see the results, whether you're a pro-life preacher in Philadelphia, Or whether you're the former President of the United States.
	Okay, I could do this for hours more, but I just want to make sure everybody is following this lady, Rebecca0132.
	That's R-E-B-E-K-A-H, Rebecca0132.
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