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He's not too old.
You know, his age.
I think they do the age thing because I'm four or five years behind.
They say, this is a way of getting Trump.
Let's call him up.
But there's something wrong.
I saw his answer today on television about whether or not he was going to run to a very nice guy named Al Roker.
I mean, you can't get a softer question than that.
That was a long answer, talking about the eggs and the this and that.
Look, I don't think he can.
I don't think he can.
I wonder if you agree.
I just had an idea.
Eric, let's make a poll on our website.
Do you agree with President Trump?
There's no way.
Biden can run in 2024.
Yes or no?
You can tell us as well.
The phone number here is 833-33 Gawker.
Welcome to America First with me your host Sebastian Gawker.
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Sound off on the topics of the day.
The viral video interview from the BBC of Elon Musk.
I watched the whole thing.
It was a Twitter space as well for about An hour plus.
And did he destroy them?
Oh yes, he did.
I'll share with you my own experience with the BBC over the weekend.
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That was from an interview at Mar-a-Lago that Tucker did with President Trump.
I do believe there's going to be more from that interview.
But he's right.
There's something wrong with the man who's just gone to Ireland.
Here's a little example of just how wrong it is.
This is Biden talking about the Oval Office being on Capitol Hill.
Cut 13.
As a matter of fact, as you walk into my office in the Oval Office in the United States Capitol, Excuse me?
Just play that again.
You gotta pay attention, guys.
Listen to this cut and then tell me what is going on. - As a matter of fact, as you walk into my office in the Oval Office in the United States Capitol. - My office, the Oval Office in the United States Capitol.
I know I'm an immigrant, but I did work in the White House, and it's not on Capitol Hill.
This guy is utterly, utterly senile.
How do you make Tucker Carlson happy during an interview?
It's very easy.
You talk about certain pipelines that were blown up.
I don't think I've seen Tucker this happy in a long, long time, especially with President Trump's response to who blew it up.
Let's play that cut.
Do you have that cut, Eric?
Let's do it.
Who blew up the Nord Stream pipeline?
I don't want to get our country in trouble, so I won't answer it.
But I can tell you who it wasn't, was Russia.
How about when they blamed Russia, you know?
They said Russia blew up their own pipeline.
You got a kick out of that one too.
It wasn't Russia.
Pretty diplomatic answer for a man who's supposed to be crazy.
All right.
But at least we can say what?
Hey, Jeff, can we at least say that Tucker's now back on the Trump train after those texts were revealed with the Dominion case?
There was about three or four of the intros and outros that he had that he was very happy with the interview, and that was the best one.
That's the happiest he was.
So do we believe him now?
Is he back?
Because those texts that he wrote about President Trump after January 6th, what do we think?
Do we think he's faking it or he's back?
That was a very tough time, I'll just say.
I think he's back.
Alright, okay, good.
The truth is, I always get asked, what would President Trump do now with regards to Putin and Ukraine?
That's when I laugh.
Why?
Because he wouldn't have invaded!
If there hadn't been 81 million mailed out ballots, you know that Putin... We killed 300 of his Wagner Group mercenaries in Syria.
He didn't even hold a press conference.
Here's President Trump on the situation with Putin and Ukraine cut sex.
You talked to Putin about Ukraine.
What did you say to him?
I could see that he loved it.
And I said... He loved Ukraine?
He considers it to be a part I mean, look, I was the worst thing that ever happened to him.
I closed up his pipeline.
You never heard the words Nord Stream 2 until I came along.
Nord Stream 2 was their pipeline.
And I had a great relationship with him, but it was very tough because they had a fake Russia investigation.
And I told him, and he told me, he said, it's very hard for us to deal, don't you think?
I said, very hard, because we have a fake investigation that turned out to be a fake for two years that went on, and we could have done very well with Russia.
They have great minerals, they have great things that we want, we could have, and they need the money and they need other things.
But that interfered.
That was a terrible thing.
That was actually a treasonous thing to do.
Those people should have been arrested.
They made it up.
They made up a problem with Russia that didn't exist.
Now they've all admitted it didn't exist.
It was just on to the next one.
That's such an interesting point.
Nobody has ever discussed the last six years and the whole Russia collusion manufactured hoax from that angle.
Look, we don't like Putin.
He's a murderous thug.
But this is a nation with 11 time zones, it's of strategic import, and it's one of the five members of the UN Security Council that has nuclear weapons.
What did the left do with the Steele dossier and with everything else?
They actually generated geopolitical tension at the highest level between our two nations.
When you make a decision to lie about a candidate and then an incumbent president being an asset of one of our adversaries, what kind of moral compass do you have?
Whether it's China, whether it's Iran, whether it's ISIS, you're actually threatening America by Messing with geopolitics.
Skewing the chessboard.
Wow!
Incredible analysis.
I think I might have to write about that.
But let's talk about domestic politics.
Let's talk about the most important thing, given the events in Manhattan.
Can't believe that was last week.
Eric, that was last Tuesday, wasn't it?
That is correct.
It feels like a lifetime.
It feels like it was a month ago.
That's incredible.
The most important part of Tucker's interview is this very short response from my former boss, President Trump.
This is cut for.
Is there anything they could throw at you legally that would convince you to drop out of the race?
If you get convicted in this case in New York, would you drop out?
No, I'd never drop out.
No, I'd never drop out.
It's not my thing.
I wouldn't do it.
There's nothing, nothing they can throw at President Trump.
He's never going to drop out because that's just not his thing.
They've tried for seven years from the Billy Bush tapes through Crossfire, Hurricane, Impeachment 1, Impeachment 2, the Raid on Mar-a-Lago, the January 6th Committee, Alvin Bragg, Southern District of New York, on and on and on.
And they failed.
So tough luck to those who think they can stop a man who has fought and won for more than 50 years.
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Can you give me line two?
Yeah, hi, who's this?
Hello?
Line 2?
Who are you talking to, dipshit?
Wow, you're such a coward.
You're calling up and insulting me.
You wouldn't do it to my face, you little shithead, would you?
Oh, I would too, you fat fucking coward.
Come on then, you know where I am.
Come find me.
Come find me, big boy, if your mama lets you out of the house.
Come find me.
I'm ready for you, you and all your skirt-wearing friends.
Come on, do it.
Do it.
Do it.
Oh man, just do it.
You and me.
You and me.
Bring all of your Snowfrake friends.
You don't have a pair of balls between you.
Oh, I'm not the one who called up.
I'm not the one who insulted the host of a national show.
You're such a little scaredy cat.
All you've got is a telephone.
Oh, you're so brave.
Did your mummy dial the phone number for you?
Oh, I'm gonna cry now.
Oh my gosh, my mommy wants her phone back.
Go away, you sad little pathetic non-man.
Goodbye.
Womp womp.
That was great.
He's the guy that's so smart that He called Jim Hansen and said he wasn't in the military.
Then he called back with a different name and I told him first.
He said Jim wasn't in the military?
No, so then for an hour and 15 minutes I kept him on hold until he told me he was coming to the next segment and waited for the entire show.
I thought that was the guy who claimed Jim was like a deep state operative or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He said Jim was a deep state operative.
Yeah, yeah.
Something along those lines.
Like deep state... Hey, have fun.
Keep it, keep it.
No, tell him we'll take him in the next block.
Title for the monologue and for the... Looks like Tucker's back on the Trump train.
Someone in the chat said, Tucker's in the dining car of the Trump train.
And then for Yan, what's a good title for Yan?
Something China related China's plan the hundredth anniversary thing you mentioned the Yeah.
China's 100-year plan for America.
It's an incredible story he has, too.
Oh, it's crazy to be an evolutionary biologist.
Yeah, and then the disease, and now I'm calling out China.
What an origin story.
I know, he really should write it up.
All right, we've got Kyle on Skype, right?
Oh, can you play for me 14 and 15?
14?
Yeah.
It is beyond the pale, Sean, for the FBI to be going into any church in America and trying to spy on Americans.
And now we know that's exactly what they were doing.
They are infiltrating churches.
They are trying to spy on us.
They regard churches, apparently, as the enemy and church-going Americans as akin to terrorists.
And yeah, the Attorney General sat right there and told me No, we don't do that.
And now we know they do, in fact, target churches.
Alright, ten seconds.
We have them on the line real quick.
Right.
Can we get an audio check real quick?
Yeah, audio check.
One, two, three.
Yeah, we're good.
That's very good.
All right, 10 seconds.
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Hey Seb, thanks so much.
Are you in a new studio?
I'm in a new space.
Yeah, I moved to Texas.
All my AR-15s are in a case.
They're off on my left, but I got at least a dozen over there.
All right, well, I like the way you used to have them as decorations behind you, so I might have to talk to your interior decorator after we get off.
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Let's get serious.
We have Just shocking news.
I mean just utterly shocking news.
If it weren't bad enough that pro-life activists are being raided by the FBI, that as you shared with us the hashtag EDU threat tag for parents who spoke up at school board meetings, now we have this information from Senator Josh Hawley.
Cut 14.
It is beyond the pale, Sean, for the FBI to be going into any church in America and trying to spy on Americans.
And now we know that's exactly what they were doing.
They are infiltrating churches.
They are trying to spy on us.
They regard churches, apparently, as the enemy, and church-going Americans as akin to terrorists.
And yeah, the Attorney General sat right there and told me, no, we don't do that.
And now we know they do, in fact, target churches.
So unpack this for us.
A few weeks ago we had the memo out of the FBI in Richmond talking about looking at Catholics who go to traditional mass as potential domestic terrorists.
And now, is it true, Kyle, that we have information that the FBI is trying to develop informants inside Catholic church communities?
Yeah, I think we do.
There's two sort of pieces to this.
Number one is the Intel product that I was able to release and was able to write about it, Uncover DC, and kind of put out the actual document.
And then the second is what we've seen is this 18 pages of, we haven't seen them, but they're redacted documents coming in from Jim Jordan's office where they are basically seeing that there was an authorized operation to go in and infiltrate the church.
Here's where I think it gets really interesting, because I went back after reading what Jordan's people have put out, And I did another analysis.
I did a deep dive with another intelligence professional who's got, you know, two and a half decades worth of time in the Intel community.
When we read over that Intel product again, I think what it says is that not only did they have sort of an undercover or an unannounced person from the FBI inside one of the Richmond churches.
I think it was actually the author of the document.
The intel analyst who actually authored that document was in fact a fairly young, within the last two years hired by the FBI, graduate of Georgetown University.
And as you'll know, a Jesuit university with a leftist bent in his case.
The way he's writing is obviously very influenced by sort of the The academic environment of the day, but his inside baseball knowledge is very sophisticated about the Catholic Church, and so it sounds like it's somebody with an axe to grind.
And between me and the gentleman that I was analyzing it, we've determined that it has all the hallmarks.
Of an inside job written by the actual analyst, particularly the fact that he thinks it doesn't require any additional or alternative analysis.
I mean, you know, when you're doing intelligence, you never have like a smoking gun.
It's never 100% clear.
It's always high degree of confidence.
And that's not the way this is written.
This is written like someone who wrote it is the person who's doing the analysis and has all the information right in front of them that they need.
So kind of dumb question, naive question.
How does this happen?
How on earth does this happen?
I mean, the FBI should operate based upon real threats.
What are we talking about here, Carl?
What is this, in fact?
I think this is mission creep.
I think this is what happens when you take an entity that brings on the domestic intelligence mission after 9-11.
That was the job that the FBI managed to saddle itself with and not really knowing how to do so.
And they've emulated some of the worst ideas of our intelligence services when they're operating domestically.
And what they have essentially done is they have run out of international terrorism to go after.
You know, our U.S.
military brought the fight to those people in the places where they were.
They tied them up and they occupied them.
The government pivoted towards a thing called a homegrown violent extremist, which is going to be people living domestically that have a foreign ideology.
And then when they ran out of those people, because they did a good job on that as well and actually started manufacturing cases in some ways, Um, they started looking for domestic terrorists and there's a short supply of people in the United States that want to do violence against people in the United States.
It's not a big, a big number of people.
So you have to ever expand the definition.
They started with white supremacists because nobody loves that.
Um, then they were able to go to this militia violent extremist movement, which is sort of a made up thought.
And then they've pivoted to this anti-government, anti-authority group, which they made up out of whole cloth, essentially, and this is your types that are coming out of January 6th, and I think you'll find that they're going back to white supremacy.
They're going back to the well by claiming that Catholics who are radical, they're trying to, you know, carve off a small section of Catholicism by saying that these people are essentially the enemy.
This is a cult-like part of Catholicism, so they're not really Catholics.
But even if there is a cult-like part of Catholicism, the first thing the special agent in charge says, or the assistant, or deputy director, I don't care where it is, the JTTF, What Catholic thread are we talking about?
Which Catholic group or subcult shot up a school in Nashville?
Which subcatholic cult group went into a bank in Louisville and killed five people?
I mean, wouldn't the first thing be, what the hell are you talking about?
It should be, but that's not where we're at right now.
And as you know, in your experience with, you know, a lot of people call it the deep state, I like to call it the administrative state, is that most of these people have ceded God for government, and they sort of worship at the altar of the government taking over and being the thing that provides for all of your needs, and many of us don't believe that.
So, you know, Catholicism would be ground zero for that sort of fight, and I think people that are traditional Muslims and people that are also Jewish would have the same sort of problems with it.
So it's carving off a fringe group.
I mean, they've been infiltrating churches and mosques for a very long time.
There's a Supreme Court lawsuit that was settled after 11 years, last year, showing that the FBI was going into mosques, and some of that stuff may have been justified, and a lot of it probably wasn't, because they were trying to meet metrics.
But we've had a domestic jihadi threat from, you know, Jihadi Jane on down, but this is what?
Based on what?
Nothing!
This is a will-o'-the-wisp.
This doesn't exist.
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So you moved.
You moved to Texas?
Yeah, we did.
We moved to Liberty Hill, of all places.
That's a good name, right?
Nice!
Very nice.
Very nice.
I don't think there... I can actually walk out of my front door and touch a cow in less than 10 minutes on foot, so I feel like that's a good thing.
That is good for the soul, my friend.
Good for the soul.
Definitely so.
And you're not going to have a whole lot of radical Antifa types coming out into this part of the world.
This is a no-go zone for them.
This story just...
You know, it's not because I'm a Catholic, it's just... I hope the FBI gets sued into the ground, I mean, honestly.
It's interesting, because you haven't heard anything about this kid getting disciplined, right?
That's the thing that I think is so wild.
It's not like they said, look, this guy was a problem, he's been re-educated, or he's going to go back into training, we're going to give him a constitutional law class, because obviously he doesn't understand what the First Amendment means.
Right.
You know, instead what they did is they just said, we're retracting this document, and it's appalling, and we're researching how it happened.
Right.
It happened because you're hiring leftists.
You're hiring Kids who are leftists that just got out of college and they're given a ton of leash.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know if you want to pivot to this.
Do you know that there is, uh, there's no American flag in the human resources division at the FBI in the headquarters building?
Oh, we can do that.
Absolutely.
There's a trans flag and there is a, uh, there's a rainbow flag.
The progress flag, right?
With the triangles, like the black and brown stripes, or is this just a regular rainbow flag?
Just a straight rainbow flag.
Yeah.
This is, uh, you know, when the FBI is gay pride, And again, isn't Biden Catholic?
Like, don't you think?
No, of course not.
Nominally.
You can't be pro-abortion Catholic.
No, right.
Correct.
Two minutes.
It's just wild that that's the route that they've gone.
We did an expose in Daily Caller that kind of came out very quickly and disappeared as quickly, but there was a 52-page slide deck of radical gender ideology indoctrination that the Bureau mandated in April of 21.
And they wanted everybody to go out and take this thing, and it got such bad reviews on the internal virtual academy system that they actually pulled it and scrubbed it, but not before one of my people screenshotted every bit of it.
So I've got all 52 pages of the slide deck.
Can you send me that article?
Oh yeah, sure.
Thank you.
It's got all kinds of pictures of agents, you know, marching in gay pride parades, holding FBI rainbow flags and all this other kind of nonsense.
I mean, it's crazy talk.
They're telling how to use pronouns properly for the transgender agents, and there is at least one good, apparently a very attractive female at the Washington field office who goes by the name Max Montana and uses he-him pronouns in the men's locker room, which, you know, that's every man's fear is that some hot girl is going to come in and pretend to be a dude and hang out inside the men's locker room.
Oh my gosh.
It's pretty funny.
So they literally gave my badge to a tranny.
45 seconds.
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Yeah.
Oh, come in with, um... Come in with 15, then I'll do my pillow.
Come in with 15, then my pillow.
All right.
Attorney General, are you cultivating sources and spies in Latin mass parishes and other Catholic parishes around the country?
The Justice Department does not do that.
It does not do investigations based on religion.
How many informants do you have in Catholic churches across America?
I don't know, and I don't believe we have any informants aimed at Catholic churches.
We have a rule against investigations based on First Amendment activity, and Catholic churches are obviously First Amendment activity.
But I don't know the specific answer to your question.
You don't know the specifics of anything, it seems.
The Attorney General who runs the DOJ, under which the FBI is found, can't answer the question as to whether there are FBI assets, covert assets, in Catholic churches in America.
Senator Josh Hawley Failing to get answers from Merrick Garland.
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America.
I think it indicates the state of affairs for these types of political appointees.
And there's the people that I speak to say that Merrick Garland is not running DOJ.
And I think that would be probably a very clean assessment.
It's got to be Lisa Monaco, right?
That's right.
Yep.
And Lee Loftus in the administrative end of things.
They're pushing an agenda from the White House.
But at the end of the day, they've been there for years.
That's what they do.
They work their way up the ranks.
That's what the administrative state does.
Chris Wray actually sort of famously dropped the veil on accident when he was speaking to Brett Baier on Fox the other day.
And what he said was, I have oversight of the FBI.
I think that's actually an accurate statement.
It's probably the most accurate statement.
The director is saying he doesn't direct.
He has oversight?
He just oversees it.
And he, in his own words, and he said this to people inside the Bureau, he says, you know, I don't want to be bubble-wrapped from the real employees of the FBI, but in fact he is.
And so those are his descriptions, that he has oversight and he's bubble-wrapped away from the day-to-day operations.
I think what's really important to note is that in the questioner, the question that Senator Howley put out there, he asks about informants.
And that word is generally associated with confidential human sources.
That's the way the Bureau calls them.
But that's a very specific thing.
And what we're talking about in our conversation just a few moments ago is essentially talking about what we would call UCEs, or undercover employees.
And those are a different thing.
Which means you're actually a Fed.
Yeah, you're a W-2 employee of the federal government.
It's very important that we are very specific when we have these question sessions with these officials as they do oversight.
They have to be precise with their language because you're only talking to attorneys, essentially.
I mean, you're dealing with people who are litigious and they're going to try to dance around the topic by not telling you the truth.
And maybe they don't have any informants because all the informants are actually professional W-2 employees.
That's a big difference.
It's legal.
The American people won't see the difference.
No, it's the classic, you know, D.C.
language game.
You don't use exactly the right word and then I can deny all knowledge.
We've got a minute left with you, Carl.
In the break you said something quite, I guess it's not surprising, but quite shocking about a certain office inside the Bureau.
Yeah, so the FBI's Human Resource Division is out of DC in the Hoover Building, and they don't have an American flag on their wall.
They actually have a pride flag, a gay pride flag, so that's a rainbow flag up on the wall.
And that sort of thing goes along with what I've been starting to realize.
The FBI is actually a trans intelligence agency.
It started off as a law enforcement agency.
They transitioned to an intel agency, but they kept the bulge, kind of like Dylan Mulvaney did, except the bulge is a badge and a gun.
So they have those arrest authorities, but they are doing intelligence work, and that's a lot of the danger of what we're seeing right now.
And I just want to make sure, so there's no American flag at the Human Resources Department at the FBI building, the Hoover building, but there's a trans flag and I would presume next to the trans flag there's the yellow and white Vatican City papal flag to represent all the Catholics in the Bureau, correct?
Right?
And maybe a Ukrainian flag too.
That's what we got going on there.
I mean, they beclown themselves as they do this stuff.
It's obvious to those sitting on the outside if they had the information and most of them don't.
So that's what me and the Suspendables do.
Yeah, him and the Suspendables.
We have to take back control.
We have to win the election and we have to take back the FBI brick by brick.
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Agents inside the Catholic Church.
What do you keep saying to that guy, Jeff?
Nothing, he just keeps hanging up.
When you pick up, he hangs up.
He knows he ain't getting on no more.
Poor little boy.
Play me Cut 9.
Cut 9.
Oh, do we have any?
I want the tanks, I want the planes, I want everything.
And a couple of them fought me on it.
Like Milley.
He said, sir, I think it's cheaper to leave the equipment behind.
I said, let me ask you, we have a plane that costs a hundred million dollars.
It's sitting there.
All it needs is a tank of gas.
Right?
Give me a little jet fuel.
We'll fly it to Pakistan or any place else, or we'll fly it directly home.
You say it's cheaper to leave a hundred million dollar plane.
Sir, I think overall it's cheaper.
These are idiots we're dealing with.
They left $85 billion worth of equipment.
They left our American citizens behind.
70 seconds.
Tell me when you've got the BBC thing.
I got the full one now.
It's from a reel.
It took forever, but I gotta cut it down.
I can probably get it by next segment.
These reels take forever to...
Yeah.
Come in with cut seven.
Coming with cut seven, no liner.
How much of it do you want?
Like a minute?
A minute or less, just when you can see how biased he is.
Okay.
So you have a problem?
You got this crazy world that's blowing up, and the United States has absolutely no say, and Macron, who's a friend of mine, is over with China, kissing his ass, okay, in China.
I said, France is now going to China.
You take a look at Saudi Arabia.
Look at what happened.
They're great people.
They wanted to help us.
He goes over and gets a fist pump.
You know what a fist pump means?
Don't shake my hand because your hand's dirty.
That's what a fist pump is.
They got it.
They were so insulted.
Do you understand that?
Yes.
Oh, I don't want to shake your hand.
Let's go fist pump.
It's remarkable.
I mean, we're more than two years in, but it didn't take two years.
It was far less than two years.
For a safe world, a world in which we'd signed multiple, multiple peace treaties in the Middle East.
The Abraham Accords.
We'd crushed ISIS in just five months.
Getting the lawyers out of the way and allowing our special operators and Green Berets to do their job, which is to kill our enemies.
We'd even been, I was there in Singapore, we'd had that Amazing summit.
He actually walked into the DMZ without a security detail.
President Trump crossed into the demilitarized zone with the head of the Hermit Kingdom.
NATO was revitalized.
Members were finally paying their fair share.
And now, France?
The head of government?
He's making deals with, he's hanging out with the head of the biggest communist nation in the world.
It's truly remarkable.
President Trump continued.
Cut five.
I often say, they said to me the other day, one of your fellow journalists said, who's the biggest problem, sir?
Is it China?
Could it be Russia?
Could it be North Korea?
No, I said the biggest problem is from within.
It's these sick, radical people from within.
Because we can handle, if we're smart, we can handle Russia, China.
I did.
I took in billions and billions, hundreds of billions of dollars from China.
No other president took in anything.
And they respected me.
He's the same thing, you know.
I told him, you can't go into Taiwan.
You can't.
You can't do it.
I won't tell you exactly what I said, but it was something that probably a lot of people wouldn't like if they heard it.
But it was very tough.
Don't go into Taiwan.
If you do, we're going to have problems.
Other than that, we're going to be great relationship.
We're going to have a great relationship.
And he said to me, when I said we're going to do something, if he goes in, no, no, no, you wouldn't do it.
I'll do that.
I swear I'll do that.
And he didn't believe me, but he believed me 10%.
The same thing with Putin.
I said I was going to do something really nasty.
If he goes into Ukraine, he said, no, no, you're not going to do that.
I said, I will.
And he didn't believe me either, but he believed me 10%.
And the 10%, you never heard talk about going into Ukraine.
You never heard talk about going into Taiwan.
Until I was no longer there.
Now, what a mess the world is in.
What a mess.
Now that's the art of the deal.
You talk straight, behind closed doors, none of the flowery diplomatic stuff, and then all you need, it's the art of the deal, all you need is 10%, 10% lack of surety in the mind of the bad guys.
Is he going to drop 52 cruise missiles on my head, like we did with that Syrian Air Force base after they were going to use chemical weapons for a second time against civilians when we were in the White House?
That's all you need, a unit less, 5%.
5%.
They don't know exactly just how tough you are.
All you need.
Let's go to your calls.
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Ben in Denver, line one.
Hey, Dr. Gorka.
Great show as always.
Thank you.
Hey, Trump's interview last night.
I loved those tall tales.
They were hysterical.
And then I thought the way he praised all of the world's autocrats Kind of like the way a bunch of 12-year-old girls swoon over Harry Styles.
I thought that was fantastic.
Don't you agree?
He didn't say that.
He said they were intelligent.
Why are you being a propagandist, Ben?
Are you working for the mainstream legacy-lying media?
He said they're intelligent, which is what they are, because they have played Biden Like the senile crooked old fiddle he is.
So why?
Why do you call into a show to lie to three million people who know you're a liar, Ben?
Why do you do that?
Speaking of lying, do you think the Dominion lawsuit is going to change the way you have to do business?
You'll actually have to tell people the truth?
What have I lied about, Ben?
Give me one example.
I've been doing this for four years now.
I'll give you 30 seconds of dead air.
Answer me.
One thing I've lied about, you hack.
I'm timing you.
There's not enough time.
There's not enough!
You can't give me one!
You can't give me one!
Who's the little high school girl now?
You call up here, you cast aspersions on my honor and whether I'm telling the truth, and you sad little sack of human excrement can't give me one example?
Do you know that if you look up the word failure in the Webster's Dictionary, it's got a photograph of you?
You just proved my point.
You're just another hack.
I gave you a perfect opportunity.
Millions of people listening live and you couldn't give me one example.
Ben, I love you because you have made the case for me and everyone who supports President Trump.
You have nothing, absolutely nothing.
Ben, Thank you.
God bless you, and we will pray for your rotten black soul.
Goodbye.
Jeff, where do you find these people?
Did- was that- was that- was that actually a ringer?
Did you pay him to say that?
No, but he- what he said was pretty stupid anyway that he's gonna say, so I was hoping he was gonna say that too.
But the fact that I said, give me one!
Give me one!
And he couldn't do it!
And he had the time.
You're going to give him the time, too.
That's the best part.
I was prepared on radio, which probably would have got me in trouble, to have 30 seconds of utter dead air across the nation from the Pacific to the Atlantic.
And he couldn't.
Jeff, if that guy rings back, we're going to do an interview with him because that is golden.
That is who the Democrat voter is.
Oh, you're a liar!
You lie, lie, lie, lie, lie!
Okay, give me one example.
I can't.
Dude, Ben, or whatever your lying name is, thank you.
You just made my case for me.
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Hey, why don't you have a job? why don't you have a job?
All right.
I have a job.
Why don't you have a real job?
You just talk crap on the radio and lie all the time.
Nobody could call me again and again and again like a sad sack who's been jilted by his girlfriend and keeps calling her up.
You don't have a job.
You've got nothing, dude.
You're living in your mum's basement eating Hot Pockets.
Did they fire you from the last job or did you just walk away?
What?
No, I'm the guy that you hung up on before.
Dude!
Dude, you're the guy who keeps ringing back like you're an obsessed ex-girlfriend.
You're very funny.
We are going to hang up on you, but keep ringing back because Jeff loves to hang up on you.
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What's that?
Edith.
What did Edith want?
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All right.
Come in with...
Cut heavy day today.
Cut 12.
Have you noticed all the libs, everything is the Dominion lawsuit?
Do you realize that's in jury selection right now?
They act like they want it.
What is that?
What is it about?
Because it's simple.
Here's what they do.
The mainstream media is covering it and they're just picking whatever they want out and throwing it out there.
But it hasn't even come to trial yet.
Well, they're acting like it's a victory because it forced, like, Fox to, like, shut up about it.
Like, you're not allowed to talk about it anymore.
So, like, oh, that's victory, basically.
30 seconds.
Oh, man.
Oh, man. man.
I don't have an issue with Ron DeSantis.
I'm just a gut player, and just my gut instincts about him is that he's very practiced and he's very rehearsed.
And that's all I've said.
I haven't really given a reason.
I haven't been able to eloquently state what you have just so brilliantly stated right there about Ron DeSantis.
I loved him as a governor.
I said if I lived in Florida, I'd be voting for Ron DeSantis.
I think he's done a good job as a governor, but I don't trust him on the world stage.
I say I don't trust him to be America first on policies.
And I do feel that he is beholden to his political consultants, and he's beholden, more importantly, to the donor class.
Now that's interesting.
That's Candace Owens being interviewed by Vivek Ramaswamy.
By the way, Jeff, let's reach out to Mar-a-Lago.
We need to get President Trump back.
So much to discuss with him.
But on that interview, I mean, Candace has been a bit quiet since the whole Kanye thing.
How significant is that, what she said about DeSantis, Jeff?
What do you think?
I don't think it's just her.
There's a lot of people that have kind of been on the fence or were pro-DeSantis the last couple of weeks that are starting to come back to Trump.
Yeah.
Eric, what do you think of that?
Are you surprised she did that?
Because she was kind of, like, very quiet for the last few months.
Yeah, being quiet was kind of interesting, but ultimately for her to come out and say it this way, I think, and to say it so definitively and so simply and straightforwardly, I think that is a huge deal.
And she's right, especially as we said, DeSantis flip-flopped not too long ago on the whole Russia-Ukraine thing.
How can we trust him on the world stage?
But it's more than that.
Did you catch the second half of that?
It's not just the lack of credentials on foreign policy and national security.
The fact that she doesn't trust him to be America first.
Isn't that interesting?
I think that's true.
And I agree completely.
There's only one candidate running who is truly America first.
So we all know who that is.
What about Tim Scott has announced what his exploratory committee, right?
Which basically means he's running, I guess.
Yeah.
Jeff, is that important?
I think it kind of goes back to what the Candace says.
Talk about practice and rehearse.
That is Tim Scott.
And I think Trump has really blown that up for a lot of people on our side.
People don't want that anymore.
Even the people in Congress, you look at the people that are fighters, the people like... It's people like Matt Gaetz, it's Jim Jordan that are just going off and talking normal.
Right.
And what did you say today?
What did Tim Scott do before he became a politician?
He sold insurance.
I think he still owns it.
It's Tim Scott Allstate.
Wow, that's fascinating.
Guys, tell us what you think.
Tim, Scott, Candace, Owens.
Why?
Here's the real question.
Why isn't Ron DeSantis announced?
You very quietly had the Statehouse change the Constitution of Florida so he can stay governor and run for another office.
So what's he waiting for?
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But would you not have liked to have known during the last presidential election in 2016 that there were these claims from Stormy Daniels and others against him and that Donald Trump was paying via his lawyer, the allegation is, money to try to keep her quiet?
Would you not have, as a voter, liked to have known that?
So I'm not going to play the BBC's games, number one.
It's not a game, it's a question.
Would you like to have known that information as a voter?
Ask a question and let me answer or don't invite me on your show.
Are we clear, Robert?
Well, are you going to answer the question?
No, you don't get to do this.
You don't get to badger me.
I'm not in a court of law and you're not the prosecution.
I'm your guest.
So behave like a host.
Number one, they're not felonies.
They are misdemeanors.
In a court of law, a business misstatement on a record is a misdemeanor.
This is a travesty that they have been trumped up in some... You made that point, but my question was, would you like to have known that as a voter?
Because you misstated it.
Once more, you said they're felonies.
I am going to correct you.
I'm also going to correct you to say that Alvin Bragg campaigned after he got a million dollars from a foundation George Soros funded.
Jen, is that you?
Hello!
Hi, can you hear us?
I was just being a creeper.
We could hear like a faint, like a wind or something.
I said, well, I said hello early on, but then there was the BBC thing.
And so I was like, oh, they don't hear me.
No, it's fine.
We tried to call you on Skype.
It answered and then it said Salem is online or offline.
Try it again.
- Hi, Jeff. - Two minutes.
I just did an interview.
It just wrapped right now and I came running in here.
I look like I need a hairbrush.
Eric, it's not on the front page anymore.
It's like gone.
But it was there under podcast and now it's not there. - Thank you.
Okay.
You see me?
Oh, connecting.
Yeah!
There we got you now.
Don't worry.
So what's going on?
We're going to be together Friday.
You guys excited already?
Yep, Friday.
Looking forward to that.
Is that Creepy Jen?
That's me.
I was creeping on you guys.
I heard you.
I was hiding out, just listening in.
All right, we're going to have some media analysis because you are now not just my West Coast correspondent, you are my media analyst.
I love this.
Let's go.
All right.
I need all the titles and all the social media followers.
You're just going to have to have a very big business card.
All right, let's talk about Whole Foods, homeless encampments in Beverly Hills.
What else?
Oh, there's a good one.
We've got a new Republican in the race for a Feinstein seat, so a Republican, which is good.
Eric Earley is in.
Oh, he is in.
Officially, so that's a good one.
Okay.
And what else has been happening around here?
Gosh, we spent so much time talking about Trump today.
That interview with Tucker was great, wasn't it?
We'll do some media analysis of that as well.
Yeah.
And coming up with a BBC cut.
Yep.
All righty.
And then Elon.
We'll do Elon after that.
We'll do Elon after that.
We'll do Elon after that.
We'll do Elon after that.
Would you not have, as a voter, liked to have known that?
So I'm not going to play the BBC's games, number one.
It's not a game, it's a question.
Would you like to have known that information as a voter?
Ask a question and let me answer or don't invite me on your show.
Are we clear, Robert?
Well, are you going to answer the question?
No, you don't get to do this.
You don't get to badger me.
I'm not in a court of law and you're not the prosecution.
I'm your guest.
So behave like a host.
Number one, they're not felonies.
They are misdemeanors.
In a court of law, a business misstatement on a record is a misdemeanor.
This is a travesty that they have been trumped up in some... You made that point, but my question was, would you like to have known that as a voter?
Because you misstated it.
Once more, you said they're felonies.
I am going to correct you.
I'm also going to correct you to say that Alvin Bragg campaigned after he got a million dollars from a foundation George Soros funded.
That was me last weekend on the BBC World Service, a show I'm probably not going to get invited back to.
I thought I'd share it with you, given what Elon Musk did with a flamethrower to the BBC yesterday.
She's usually our West Coast warrior princess, she always is that, but I need her to do some media analysis right now.
Jennifer Horne, welcome back to America First!
Thank you and well done.
You need to teach a master class.
I want you and Elon Musk to go work with all the talking heads out there because this is what the media needs when they start going crazy and think that they can badger you and make up false claims and, you know, be the fake news media that they are.
Look, I think that's a fabulous idea because I think we have very different styles.
If you listen to the whole Elon Musk interview yesterday, he was like, he killed With a stiletto knife that the interviewer didn't even realize he had pulled out of his boot.
Me, it's more like, you know, an A-10, you know, from the air with 30mm cannons.
But it had to be done!
I did it twice last weekend with the London Broadcasting Corporation and the BBC.
They just...
They just opened the kimono and they showed themselves for who they were.
We've got to talk President Trump, we've got to talk California.
First things first, follow this lady at crntalk.com, at Jennifer Horne on Twitter.
But let's talk about Elon.
So I was somebody, a buddy, you know who you are, Jack.
I was already asleep and he said, you've got to get on.
There's like 3 million people listening to this Twitter space right now with Elon.
It had been a long day.
So I listened to the whole thing.
Did you listen to the whole thing today?
I did not listen to the whole thing.
I've only seen bits and pieces.
It was a busy day today, but we talked about it a lot on the radio show.
All right.
So let's play the best part because this interviewer who, this is the BBC's interviewer.
What do you mean?
initiated the interview.
He did it on his iPhone so he could broadcast it on Twitter spaces to literally millions of people live.
And he's constantly trying to badger Elon Musk to say, you're bad.
You took over Twitter and it became hate filled.
Let's just listen.
It's just too delicious.
Cut then.
What do you mean to describe a hateful thing?
Yeah.
I mean, you know, just content that will solicit a reaction, something that may include something that is slightly racist or slightly sexist, those kinds of those kinds of things.
So you think if something is slightly sexist, it should be banned?
No, I'm not saying anything.
I'm just curious.
I'm trying to understand what you mean by hateful content.
And I'm asking for specific examples.
And you just said that if something is slightly sexist, that's hateful content.
Does that mean that it should be banned?
Well, you've asked me whether my feed, whether it's got less or more.
I'd say it's got slightly more.
That's what I'm asking for examples.
Can you name one example?
You can't name a single example?
Honestly, I don't...
You can't name a single example.
I'll tell you why, because I don't actually use that for you feed anymore, because I just don't particularly like it.
Actually, a lot of people are quite similar.
I only look at my followers.
Well, hang on a second.
You said you've seen more hateful content, but you can't name a single example, not even one.
I'm not sure I've used that feed for the last three or four weeks.
Well, then how did you see that hateful content?
Because I've been using Twitter since you've taken it over for the last six months.
Okay, so then you must have at some point seen, for you, hateful content.
I'm asking for one example.
Right.
You can't give a single one.
And I'm saying... Then I say so that you don't know what you're talking about.
Really?
Yes, because you can't give a single example of hateful content, not even one tweet, and yet you claimed that the hateful content was high.
That's a false.
You just lied.
No, what I claim was there are many organisations that say that that kind of information is on the rise.
Give me one example.
Right, and if you look at something like the Strategic Dialogue Institute in the UK, they will say that.
Look, people will say all sorts of nonsense.
I'm literally asking for a single example and you can't name one.
Right.
And as I already said, I don't use that feed.
But how would you know?
I don't think this is getting anywhere.
You literally said you experienced more hateful content and then couldn't name a single example.
Right.
And as I said, that's absurd.
I haven't actually looked at that feed.
Then how would you know there's hateful content?
Because I'm saying that's what I saw a few weeks ago.
I can't give you an exact example.
Let's move on.
We only have a certain amount of time.
So Jen, he says, I'm seeing hateful content on my feed on Twitter that I don't use.
Tell me what it is.
I haven't used it.
Well, are you seeing it?
Are you not seeing it?
And then he posts the interview on his Twitter feed!
As he's talking, he's actually on his Twitter feed posting the interview.
And my favorite is, let's move on.
Does anybody else watch this?
I'm very empathetic.
So even people that are disgusting like that, my hands start to sweat for him.
I just want him to go, stop, just move away, get out of there, run.
It's so awful.
But what I said on the morning show this morning, Is that anybody – I live in California, we do the show to California – anybody in California who goes, gosh, how do I talk to my liberal friends?
I hear it all the time in speaking engagements.
How do I talk to my liberal friends?
Watch Elon Musk today.
Yes.
This is all you have to do.
This has been my advice for years.
Because I can't do that.
I mean, he was like ice.
But all you have to do is ask them the question back, right?
Hillary Clinton.
I'm all about Hillary Clinton.
Okay, what's your favorite thing that Hillary Clinton's ever done?
And then you step back and you wait.
And just wait.
Don't say anything.
Don't force the moment.
Just let them try to come up with it.
Or my favorite.
Well, Donald Trump's a criminal.
Really?
What crimes has he committed?
He's a racist.
What has he said that's racist?
They can never come up with it.
Were you listening to my show 20 minutes ago?
I was not.
Were you just saying that?
No, but somebody slipped through the net.
I think Jeff did it on purpose.
Uh oh.
We had somebody say, well, you're a liar!
And I said, okay, which you shouldn't do on national radio.
I said, I'm going to give dead air across the nation.
I'm going to give you 30 seconds to come up with one thing I've lied about in the last four years.
I love it.
And he said, he actually said, I don't have the time.
Right.
And I just said, dude, thank you.
We love you.
Love you.
Prove my point.
You say you're a liar.
Give me one thing.
I can't.
Sorry.
Yep.
I can't do it.
They never can.
Because they talk in platitudes on the left, right?
They come up with all these crazy things.
Talking points.
Talking points and nobody has anything to back it up.
They don't bring the meat.
If someone came to me and said, well, why do you like Trump so much?
I could say, do you have an hour?
Let's sit down and I'll tell you why.
And I'll go through every reason why I like Donald Trump.
But the left cannot do this because they just are full of these hot air lies.
And by the way, let's talk about Twitter.
Nothing has changed on Twitter.
Twitter has had bullies 15, like five years ago there were bullies on Twitter.
There are still bullies on Twitter today.
That's just a fact of life.
The only thing that has changed on Twitter is that conservatives are no longer having their speech suppressed for posting their thoughts about COVID or about an investigation that was fake into Donald Trump.
So it's not changed.
And if we talk about hate speech, who's really good at filling social media with hate speech?
Oh, it is the left all the time.
I mean, Mike, all the time.
And by the way, I will stand up for speech that I don't like from despicable people like that reporter or from AOC or you name the person.
I will stand up, even though I don't like what they say, for their right to say it, because that is what makes our country great.
And people should be kissing Elon Musk's ring because he has brought some free speech back to social media.
I don't know where Elon Musk is going to go politically.
All I know is that I can applaud him today for not only shutting down the people who are trying to attack him on the left, but for also just returning to a sense of normalcy where people are allowed to have differing opinions, where it's not all about homogenized thought.
I don't know if you heard, and this is now you got me going.
There were these two transgender activists.
I don't even remember their names.
You've got 30 seconds.
Should we save this?
One of that – we can save it.
We'll come back with it.
It's too good.
But it fits along this storyline about homogenized thought.
All right.
We will save it.
That's called a teaser.
We're going to hook you.
We're going to hook you with that.
That was James Clayton of the BBC.
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That's the guy.
Oh, Mike.
That's the guy who beat the DCCC chairman in New York.
Mike Lawler?
Who is he?
So the DCCC, Sean Patrick Maloney I think was his name, was up for re-election and in a huge upset he ended up losing the general election to this guy, the Republican.
Why?
No clue.
I mean, that's a good question.
I mean, redistricting definitely didn't help him.
I think the district became a little more friendly.
You know, the funniest thing about the interview, apart from what Elon did, if you listen to the whole thing, Jen, is he's about 40 minutes in and you're interviewing Richest guy in the world.
One of the most powerful.
Hottest topic.
And the guy says three times, well, I'm done.
I'm out of questions.
And he actually says, this is probably the first time ever the interviewer is going to leave the interviewee.
How ridiculous.
Yeah.
Can you imagine?
You've got Elon Musk there, right?
And Elon decides to then take questions from the randos on Twitter spaces.
It was hilarious.
He took questions!
I have to watch the whole thing through.
I actually spent the morning in my free time, I was watching through the whole Trump thing with Tucker.
But I did, we played the clip, we played a little shorter version of what you just played.
And what stuns me is watching that reporter's face, just how uncomfortable he was.
If you are going into an interview with Elon Musk and you're not Like a seasoned professional.
You get your questions ready ahead of time.
He looked totally like he was going in there with the gotcha question and he expected a totally different result.
And he got Elon'd.
And it's just great.
You got Elon in a stupid t-shirt just sitting there like with his arms folded going, okay, now what?
I mean, the guy was just... Right.
Oh, it was terrible.
How embarrassing.
But you know, what Gino was saying today, it's because most journalists are just really stupid.
Yeah.
And they're going in there for the gotcha questions, and they're used to people letting them getcha, you know, and you don't let them get you, and he doesn't let them get him.
Too much fun.
It's great.
You read so many articles from mainstream outlets where they make the most basic grammatical mistakes ever, and it's like, you guys went to school for this stuff?
There was one journalist from, I want to say NBC, I could be wrong, who tweeted a picture of those three Tennessee insurrectionists walking into their expulsion boat, Arm and arm.
She wrote it out as arm and arm.
Arm and arm.
Are you joking me?
Also, gotta love who Cavuto has on right now.
Who's on?
The woman who was Prime Minister for like 15 days.
Oh, Liz Truss.
Why are they dusting her off?
She's in DC today.
Can you play me Cut 9?
Cut 9.
Trump.
Go ahead.
I want the tanks.
I want the planes.
I want everything.
And a couple of them fought me on it.
Like Millie.
He said, sir, I think it's cheaper to leave the equipment behind.
I said, let me ask you, we have a plane that costs $100 million.
It's sitting there.
All it needs is a tank of gas.
Cut 11.
Hang on.
Yeah.
For the past seven years, the neocon media establishment's been telling you that Donald Trump is a dangerous lunatic.
In two years in office, Joe Biden has brought the world to the brink of nuclear holocaust.
Who's the dangerous lunatic?
And they're lecturing you about global warming.
That's fun.
Coming with that.
Come with 11 Tucker.
Do you think that he didn't like saying that?
Well, at least he's back on the Trump train now.
There you go.
Oh, is it Israel 60?
It's 60, right?
Right, Israel.
Alex says yes.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, okay. okay.
For the past seven years, the neocon media establishment's been telling you that Donald Trump is a dangerous lunatic.
In two years in office, Joe Biden has brought the world to the brink of nuclear holocaust.
Who's the dangerous lunatic?
And they're lecturing you about global warming.
It's like Tucker's back on the Trump train!
We shall analyze momentarily, but first things first.
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We've got to talk California sooner or later but looks like Tucker's back on the Trump train, Jen.
He does.
I'm happy to have him all back on.
You know, it seems like people fell off for a second, but I'm happy to welcome them all back to our lovely train that is just going to pound its way into Washington, D.C., back into the White House.
If you didn't watch that interview between President Trump and Tucker Carlson, I would urge you to do that, especially if you think you're on the fence between maybe DeSantis or another candidate and Donald Trump.
Yeah.
That interview was so on point, so on message, and especially when it comes to foreign policy, which you realize is on a trajectory downward fast.
The United States, and this pains me to say because I don't care who's sitting in the White House, I always want our country to win.
We are no longer the top dog on this globe.
We are giving that up to China and we're doing it by the minute.
What you said is so crucial.
I'm going to tweet that out.
I'm going to credit you.
If you have any questions, if you're on the fence, watch the interview and then just ask yourself who you would trust more With the security of America, given the current situation.
That's beautifully put, Jen.
That's why you're a regular.
Follow her right now, at Jennifer Horn, host of The Morning Answer, AM 870, AM 590.
All right, we've got to talk about California!
We never end up spending enough time in California.
Where do you get your cheesy comestibles?
Are you a fan of Whole Foods?
You know what?
They call it Whole Paycheck.
I do like Whole Foods.
It used to, I'll be honest, it used to make me nervous because you had like a lot of yoga-y type people inside of Whole Foods.
You'd see things, but I don't know.
Now I like Whole Foods and I know Amazon is not quite a conservative place, but I love the fact that you can get Whole Foods delivered to your door now through Amazon.
Yeah, but you're going to have to in San Francisco, right?
Yeah, and now in San Francisco there'll be no choice.
I don't even know if they can get delivery.
Whole Foods, the story this week that has made national headlines, there was a Whole Foods that was brought into the neighborhood because people were asking for it.
You know there are a lot of yoga types in San Francisco that wanted that Whole Foods.
One year ago, just a year ago.
Just a year ago, this opens up in Market Street, which is the main drive through San Francisco.
And within a year, this store has had to close.
Not because it wasn't doing great business, it was, but because of the homeless crisis, because of the crime, which are now many times going hand in hand.
They had people going into their bathrooms.
There would be pipes and syringes left behind and littered on the floor.
You'd have homeless people trying to go in and rest inside the Whole Foods, driving out customers.
You would have people going in and stealing.
you know, every single day, taking things and running out.
And so finally, Whole Foods said, gosh, we wanted to be here.
We'd like to come back.
But San Francisco is so untenable for us.
It's unlivable.
It's undoable.
We're out of here.
And they closed up and they moved out.
And sadly said, it's been getting a lot of attention because it's Whole Foods and it's San Francisco.
But this is happening to businesses all throughout California because they're letting the crime and the homelessness run rampant.
And they're not doing anything about it.
We had last week, thankfully, an agenda item that was pulled from the Board of Supervisors in Los Angeles that would literally say if anybody was arrested and would have been charged with a crime that carried Under $50,000 in bail.
And keep in mind, it's pretty much no cash bail now in California.
You have to like murder someone to get bail.
Those people would just be caught and released.
How is that good for business?
How is that good for people living here when you were lifting up career criminals to get caught and then let right back out?
But that's not the point.
That's not the point.
The criminal is the victim.
That's the whole point.
It's ideological.
However, given the news out of Los Angeles, do you think this is all going to change?
This is from the Daily Mail, of course, that homeless encampments are springing up on Beverly Hills.
If the people of Beverly Hills You know, Obama's buddies, Biden's buddies.
They could probably have a different attitude to all of this, don't you think?
You know, sometimes that's true.
When this kind of stuff goes into high-end communities, it's amazing that the problems start to go away.
And so we'll see what happens.
But the only beacon of hope, I think, for the people of Beverly Hills is that they have their own police department, which may go in and actually enforce the rules that you cannot live on the streets.
With or without Eddie Murphy?
With Eddie Murphy, of course.
He was Beverly Hills Cop.
We just reviewed that movie!
I heard that!
Alright, last thing we want to squeeze in.
We've got, is it true, a Republican running for Feinstein seat?
Yeah, finally.
It looked like conservatives were going to have to make a tough choice.
Adam Schiff, Barbara Lee, or Katie Porter, all members of Congress in California.
I was literally going to maybe throw myself off of a building had I not had someone to vote for.
But Eric Earley, who has run for office before, he challenged Adam Schiff for Congress before he lost.
He's been on your show, hasn't he?
He is on my show quite often and is a friend.
And he's run for Attorney General before.
He is a fighter.
He's a patriot.
He is not afraid to be connected as a Trump supporter in California, which a lot of Republican politicians are.
And he threw his hat in the ring.
And here's where the beacon of hope comes for Eric Earley.
You have these three Democrats, particularly.
There are 15 people in the race, but really the three primary Democrats are going to shred each other apart.
Barbara Lee is going to play the black female card.
Katie Porter is going to play the The hysterical, the world is ending card.
Exactly.
And Adam Schiff is going to play the I take down Donald Trump card.
So you're going to have all three of them going at each other.
And maybe because we have a jungle primary, that means that Eric Earley might be able to slide through if no other Republican jumps in.
Really?
Isn't this like shifty shifts?
Aren't they just like going to hand it to him?
Well, I think that you have Democrats sharing votes, and that will be the thing that Eric will need to get into at least the general.
So we'll see if there's a chance that a Republican can actually get into the general if the Democrats all share votes.
It's a possibility.
I do think odds on favorite, and I hate to say it, is that Adam Schiff does seem to have the most support at this point in California.
Man, I don't like it.
If I had to choose, Barbara Lee is at least older, so you have less time with her, for mother nature's sake.
The idea that Schiff is a senator just blows my mind.
Senator Schiff, can you, ugh.
All right, we're out of time.
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He's a friend.
I think there's little to no chance that you're going to get him into that position, but you've got to play to win, right?
So at least I do think there's a chance that the other will be stripping away their votes and so he might be able to get it into the general, which would be the best case scenario.
When did they make it like a jungle thingy?
Oh gosh, probably five, eight years ago.
Wow.
But that's the worst thing, is when you have two Democrats.
So no Republican was really getting in because they didn't think there was a chance, but hopefully they'll all go after each other and peel away votes.
Right.
That's the goal.
Now, I have a question for you.
Do you know who Paul Bois from Breitbart?
Who?
Who?
Paul Bois.
B-O-I-S.
Yeah, B-O-I-S.
No, no.
I see his name a lot.
Why?
He just made a film, and I had him on the air today, and he said, could you give my information to Sebastian Gorka's show to see if he would be interested in promoting it?
He's working in conjunction with Breitbart on the film.
Yeah, what's the film about?
A Catholic priest – he's Catholic, by the way, so he's pro-Catholic – but a Catholic priest who starts getting this idea to take people's confessions and use them to blackmail his rich parishioners or something like that.
What?
Yeah, and he made it for – it's low budget.
He made it for like $10,000.
But I haven't watched it yet.
I had him on today as a favor to a friend, and he's a nice guy.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll just send Jeff the info and then if you guys are interested, we'll reach out to him.
Is he right for Breitbart?
He does, I've seen his name.
He does the films as Paul Roland, that's his director's name, but yeah.
So I'll just send you the info if you guys are interested.
How was the interview?
Oh, he's good.
He's good.
He's fun.
Plus you can ask him about current events and stuff because he's with Breitbart.
Yeah, sure.
Good.
No, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Cool.
All right.
Well, I hope you have a good... Oh, no, you're not doing anything good on Friday.
I hope that you have an OK time on Friday.
No, it'll be fine.
It'll be fine.
But thanks a lot.
And I will see you boys Friday.
You can mention it once at the top of the show that I'm at a memorial service and then that's it.
Yeah.
Just say that you're out.
OK.
All right.
Well, thank you, guys.
All right.
Thanks a lot, Jen.
Bye.
Okay, bye.
OK.
Shoot.
Yeah.
If I had to pick between those three, I'd probably vote for Barbara Lee.
As much as I hate to say it.
Ph.D.
Thanks.
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Yeah, I'm sure.
Lots of stuff comes and goes on a rumble.
And again, like, War Room starts at 5.
The thumbnail's fixed, too.
Yeah.
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I have to go to a memorial service later this week, but I wasn't meant to be in the studio yesterday.
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Given what happened, I'm not going to give out their names because of the political ramifications to both of these young men.
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Yeah, this is Ryan Badger.
I was calling in because I was reading up on the leaks on the Pentagon the other day.
Yeah.
And one thing that striked me odd is that we're funding Egypt, but yet Egypt wanted to send rockets to Russia.
Egypt wanted to sell hundreds of rockets to Russia, yeah.
Yeah, and we're funding Ukraine.
So we're funding indirectly and directly, we're funding both sides of the war basically.
It's just crazy.
We're basically a puppet master in the war.
You know?
Yeah, I don't think anybody's a puppet master who works for Joe Biden.
But it tells you, it tells you the geopolitical situation right now.
Absolutely, Ryan, that we have, you know, I guarantee you one thing, we've been giving huge amounts of military aid and economic aid to Egypt for decades now, Democrat and Republican administrations.
But I guarantee you this one thing, that that never would have happened.
if it were President Trump in the White House, the idea that we keep Egypt safe with the economic aid we give to that regime, to President Sisi's regime, the idea that there would be a war in Europe and they would be providing arms to the the idea that there would be a war in Europe and they would be providing arms to the invading
But with Biden in the White House, of course, there are no consequences for doing this, for really, in economic and military terms, betraying the national interests of the nation that keeps you alive.
But again, of course, Ryan, there wouldn't be a war in Ukraine.
If President Trump were back in the White House.
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Welcome back to America First.
Hey, Seb, thanks for having me.
We have to talk about the state of the U.S.
economy, but first things first, I remember back in the aughts, the end of the nineties in the aughts, everybody was so excited about BRICS, the rising power of Brazil and Russia and India and China.
Things aren't going too well for Russia, not sure Brazil's too hot either.
They don't have a currency that is as recognized or as stable as the US dollar.
Why is this topic now 20 years later back on the menu and should we be afraid?
No, I don't think so.
Last time we talked about all of China's top 10 trading partners are our supposed best friends.
But with Macron shaking the hands of Xi Jinping today, there is a realignment.
And so we got to figure that out.
But we're still the global superpower and China's got problems of its own.
And then, as we said before, also India is the only one I'm nervous about.
They're rational, though, and they they have severe issues and China is a threat to them.
So I don't see them being buddies moving forward.
All right.
You have allayed my fears.
However, that is not the case with the Fed.
However, in the break, you said, it's not interest rates.
We're moving on to the next crisis.
Explain what our millions of listeners should be aware of right now.
Yeah, well, the Federal Reserve ruined our economy in 08, and they've ruined it the last 10 years with 0% interest rates.
They totally distorted the entire economy.
And so that was bad enough.
Then they jacked up rates, which they had to do because of inflation.
And so now the interest rate went from zero to, you know, 4 or 5 percent over the last six months.
And the banks were not prepared for this at all.
And so now the IMF, all the leading, Rubini, all the leading economists that have forecasted prior severe downturns, ...are saying the Federal Reserve System has lost control of interest rates and now it's all about credit, meaning banks.
They're very nervous.
A couple of the big players came out yesterday and said we cannot keep raising rates even .25 because they know what's coming.
And so they'll couch it on the left.
Explain for the average American what a credit crisis can develop into.
Yeah, well, a credit crisis is where the banks don't have enough equity on hand, right?
They haven't invested properly with their own assets.
And so if everyone doesn't run on the bank, they don't have any money, and they go bankrupt.
And that's SBB, that's what happened.
Two or three other major banks, and they solved it, right?
They threw in $600 billion in liquidity that day.
The Fed was actually turning around to go in the right direction, but then that day they just goosed it again.
And that's why you see the stock market still kind of going up a little bit.
It's the craziest thing, but it does make perfect sense.
When the Fed prints that much money to solve the credit crisis, they're just deferring it to another day.
They're just pushing it down the road.
And it's coming at us, and you can see it in the rest of the world, right?
That China now is having problems with the IMF because all the poor countries are defaulting on them.
So you always see the credit crisis happen first internationally with the weaker countries and then here with the weaker firms.
And these, you know, ghost companies.
But it will hit our major firms and it will be a severe challenge coming up, probably in a few more months after that $600 billion wears off.
That is, however, something that can be solved.
But what about a far deeper problem?
The hole you mentioned recently, I think it was last week in the Wall Street Journal.
That's something that's going to be far harder to fix, correct?
Yeah, economics and politics are all downstream from culture.
And of course, the culture is downstream in the West from the Judeo-Christian religious tradition.
And there's two variables that are highly correlated in religious life and patriotism.
And they're both roughly down from 70% to the high 30s, right?
That's a 30% decline in five years in religiosity and love of country patriotism.
And of course, we know there's issues there with millennials and the young folks, but it's deeper.
The Max Weber Protestant work ethic and the Catholic doctrines on subsidiarity are all at stake.
Because we're losing the faithfulness.
You don't get all the other fruits from that if you don't have the faith in the first place.
And so we're in some deep troubles right now.
All right.
However, there's one we need to lessen.
My producer very wisely texted me.
He's listening to our interview because he's got like radars while he's working.
He said, get Professor Bratt to calm people down on the impending collapse of the dollar.
It's not going to collapse tomorrow, right Dave?
No, no, no.
The dollar, it's just simple, right?
Where would you invest your hard-earned money?
Would you put it in Brazil?
I don't think so.
Or China?
Or Russia?
I mean, can we have some common sense, please?
Right, right.
And Europe is falling apart.
And so, right, our economy is a sham.
But it's less of a sham than the rest of the world by far, right?
And American ingenuity can get us out of this, but we got a steep penalty to pay for the misbehavior, our misbehavior for the past two decades under the leftists.
It reminds me, as a professor, you'll appreciate this, it reminds me of that, probably the second or third most off-quoted aphorism from the great Winston Churchill, whose mother was American, by the way.
Can we just remember he was half American, who said, democracy, the worst of all systems, except all the other ones.
That's the same as the dollar, right?
All the others.
Yeah, and unfortunately we're losing track of even democracy.
Yes.
You see this central bank digital currencies and a surveillance state.
Okay, write that down, Jeff.
The next topic we're going to discuss with a good professor is the digital dollar because that is scary.
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Man, we packed it in there.
Four topics in one segment.
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Elon Musk's utter...
What should we call it?
Stealth destruction?
What should we call it?
Elon Musk's ultimate humiliation of the BBC.
The ultimate humiliation of the BBC.
Stop.
Thank you, Elon Musk.
Elon Musk goes Ben Shapiro.
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No, I know.
That's the same Ben Shapiro destroys.
Destroys, yeah.
Ben Shapiro destroys Ben Shapiro.
They didn't leave Twitter, they're probably just... NPR?
Really?
That'd be interesting.
That's what it says, yeah, they've left.
Then they'll come back, like, remember CBS did that for the weekend?
Yes, for the weekend.
Jim Acosta and everyone was gonna leave Twitter, yeah.
We haven't played Eleven, have we?
What's Eleven?
The Touker.
We have not played that one yet, no.
Come in with that.
with cut 11,
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No liner. No liner. No liner. LUNATIC.
In two years in office, Joe Biden has brought the world to the brink of nuclear holocaust.
Who's the dangerous lunatic?
And they're lecturing you about global warming.
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Let's go to Fred in LA, line one.
Fred, you're up!
Yeah, I'm driving.
Just hang on a sec.
Alright, so anyways, I think you're delusional.
Russia's winning the war in Ukraine right now.
They're not advancing at this moment because Ukraine is just one big mud pit, and you can't move heavy equipment in the mud.
It'll just sink five feet, six feet deep, and you'll get stuck there.
So what Putin is doing is he's using Bakhmut as a cauldron, and he knows that Zelensky has to win Bakhmut in order to keep soliciting funds from the West.
So Zelensky is sending troops in.
Yeah, just like Kiev was going to fall in three days.
Do you know what the casualty figures for the Russian Federation are, Fred?
When Bakhmut Bakhmut is going to fall in a couple of weeks, maybe a couple of months.
Yeah, just like Kiev was going to fall in three days.
Do you know what the casualty figures for the Russian Federation are, Fred?
Go ahead.
Repeat yourself, please.
Do you know what the casualty figures are for the Russian Federation in the last 13 months?
Yeah, you don't know either, because all the lies we're getting from the Western media have proven to be false.
The reason that he didn't attack CRM initially... Why did the Russian Federation, after four months, have to activate general mobilization if they're winning, Fred?
You know, you understand that Putin didn't want to attack.
He had to attack.
What the hell are you talking about?
Putin's been giving speeches about Ukraine's lack of legitimacy for 21 years.
You're the one peddling propaganda.
Are you getting cash straight from Moscow?
You do know he's been talking about Ukraine's illegitimacy for 21 years, Fred.
What the hell are you talking about?
You know that Putin has built 20,000 churches Oh yeah, because KGB colonels love Jesus Christ.
Stop smoking Hunter Biden's crack pipe, you Russian propagandist.
Next up, one-on-one here with a very special guest.
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We very rarely do this with people who are in the industry, but I know you've had this feeling once where You may not have physically met the person or spent many, many nights with them around a campfire or grown up with them, but you instantly connect.
That's not the case with my next guest.
I have no idea who he is, but his name is Jersey Joe and he really is.
He's my Italian brother from another mother, Joe Piscopo.
Welcome to America First One-on-One.
It's great to see you, Doctor.
Yeah, we did.
It's amazing.
We first met in the hallways of AM 970.
I think we just kind of clicked.
You're a fun guy.
I mean, you know, there's so much crazy, serious news, but it's nice to see you have a great sense of humor, my friend.
Right, I had to do that.
That was just too irresistible.
But, you know, I'm a regular guest on your show.
I don't usually have fellow radio hosts for our one-on-one deep dives, but there's so much that you can share with our millions of listeners across the nation.
I think we had to do this.
So first things first, let's find out a little bit about this man.
I can tell you he doesn't know how to spell jersey.
He spells it with a Z.
So follow him on Twitter at J-R-Z-Y, Jersey Joe Piscopo.
His website is JoePiscopo.us.
But you haven't always been a radio guy, so for those who are unfamiliar with your Hollywood years and then your comedic stardom on SNL, will you give us a kind of encapsulated, you know, life to date?
How did you get to being on AM 970 in New York and what did you do before that, Joe?
You know, when I went to college, I went to a little school in Jacksonville.
I couldn't get in anywhere else.
I was the worst student in the state of New Jersey, you know.
So my father, God rest his soul, said, look, there's a school that will accept you.
It's in Jacksonville, Florida.
It's a little school called Jones College, and they had radio stations.
They had four radio stations.
And right then, I fell in love with radio.
There was an AM, there was a 100,000 watt FM station, where I did, and this was when I was in college, I was the disc jockey, six to midnight, doing beautiful music.
In the last 15 minutes, you've heard Bata Bati, and raindrops keep falling on my head.
That was my... Hang on, hang on, hang on.
You had a six hour shift, Joe?
Oh man, I'll tell you what, they used to put us into eight hour shifts, seven hour shifts, you know?
So yes, it was six to midnight.
I'd go to school all day and I'd hang right there in the studio and we had turntables.
I'm far too young.
What is this turntable you speak of, Christopher?
I gotta tell you this story.
I'm gonna interrupt you.
I went into a gun store to buy a gun and this young girl behind the counter, this is in the Commonwealth here in Virginia, we started talking about music and I mentioned, yeah I have that or I had that CD.
Do you know what this girl said to me?
She must have been about 25.
She said, Oh, CDs.
No, no, no, no.
No, I said I had that.
I said I had that album to the owner.
I said I had that album.
And this girl says, 25 year old, she says, album?
Do you mean those really big black CDs?
I felt old, dude.
I felt old.
Hey, nothing better than vinyl, baby.
And I'm telling you now, and I'll tell you how we got to, you know, on AM 970, but we do a Sundays with Sinatra show across town with our friend over at WABC in New York.
And we play Frank Sinatra music.
I'm telling you, the 25 year olds, the Gen Zs, everybody's listening to that.
And now they're just discovering vinyl.
But I was back there doing six hour shift.
And long story short, I worked at every kind of radio station you could work at.
And I said, I got to go home to Jersey and I got to try this this entertainment thing.
So I went to the improvisation show.
This was 1976 in February.
Where were you?
You were six years old, right?
Oh, my gosh.
You know what?
I was 22 or something.
I mean, honestly, I was just a kid out of college.
I went in.
I said, I heard there's audition night.
So I drove in from Jersey to 44th and 9th.
This was Hell's Kitchen.
This is when New York was even worse than it is now.
And it was, like, a tough area.
And I went in there on a Sunday night for audition night.
I drove in.
I had my Oldsmobile Cutlass, I remember, you know?
And I'm coming down, like, 9th Avenue.
And I looked.
Tim, there must have been 400 people lined up out the door waiting to audition.
And I looked, and I just kept going right back into Lincoln Tunnel, went back to Jersey, man.
I totally chickened out.
Wow.
But the next day, I came in.
And I tell you what, I hung in there.
We used to get there noon to get a number to go on stage at 830 at the Improvisation, where there was Rodney Dagenfield, where Richard Pryor would come in, Robin Williams was coming in.
But back in the day, Jerry Seinfeld.
I was in the generation after Larry David.
Larry was there.
It was like It was when comedy was rock and roll.
Have you done stand-up locally before?
No!
No, man!
I'm not a stand-up.
I just wanted to go on stage, have somebody say, hey, that guy's castable, and then do a third, fourth lead in an hour episodic.
You know, my goal was never that high.
I never wanted to be like a star.
So that's exactly what happened.
I had my first agent.
Marvin Starkman.
I remember he got me in commercials.
So I did Dr. Pepper.
I did Buick commercials.
I did all kinds of commercials with a guy named Bob Giroldi, director.
I remember all these names.
And I did it very well.
And I was making a really nice living just doing some stand up, but mostly Doing acting parts, bit parts, in commercials.
You can make a great living.
And from there, we went on to Saturday Night Live.
Wow.
Absolutely incredible.
I think we've got a photograph of Joe from those years in Saturday Night Live.
Look at that young, young man.
All right.
So we've got the story.
We've got you in college doing the six hour, seven hour, eight hour shifts on the radio.
We've got you doing your first dive in deep in front of an audience.
And then, how on earth do you get to movies, SNL, and then your amazing morning radio show?
Oh, thank you.
Thank you, Doc.
We went from the improv.
I heard that the original cast was leaving Saturday Night Live.
That's Gilda Radner.
That's Chevy Chase.
That's John Belushi.
That's Billy Murray.
My hero, Danny Aykroyd.
And they were looking for a cast to replace the original Saturday Night Live, and I wanted nothing to do about it.
NBC did a go-round of all the comedy clubs.
They never picked anybody.
I got a call from a friend who was writing on SNL, on the new SNL.
He got a writing job.
He told Gene Domanian, producer at the time, you gotta see Joe Piscopo.
He does impressions.
I would do impressions.
I was doing the Frank Sinatra impression.
On stage, I would do Tom Snyder.
Remember Tom Snyder said the day was great and I would do all of that on the stage.
So they brought me to NBC.
I went up to the 17th floor.
I did an in-studio kind of audition.
For Gene Domania, she said, OK, you know what?
We're going to put you on tape.
We're going to put you on tape.
Come in this day.
So I bypassed a lot of auditions, but I went in.
I got down to like the last few hundred and I went into what was David Letterman's studio in the 6A, I believe it was, at NBC.
And I just riffed on Cameron.
Now, I was so cocky back then.
I was young, number one.
Number two, who wants to replace the original cast of Saturday Night Live?
But I did the old man, Mr. Sinatra.
I did all the impressions.
They laughed.
They liked it.
They hired me as a utility guy.
They needed somebody to do the impressions.
Right there, they hired me.
And so we went in.
And if I could cut to, we did about 10 shows on SNL.
Gilbert Gottfried was in the cast.
There was some great, great comedy.
Gilly!
I came up with Gilly at the Comedy Club.
Then, as we were casting the show, about to mount the show on the air, I walked up to the 17th floor one day, and someone said, I want you to meet a kid from Long Island Comedy Clubs.
I was in New York City Comedy Clubs.
We didn't know the Long Island Comedy Clubs at the time.
I walked in, and there's a young kid sitting down.
And they said, Joe, I want you to meet Eddie Murphy.
Like that.
And I sat with this young kid who was 19 years old, 19 years old.
And I immediately talked about connection.
You were gracious enough to make the introduction.
The connect with Eddie, the laughing.
We just joked around.
What are we doing here?
We just hit it off.
Then, check this out, please, if I may.
They, we did an audition, Eddie and I together, did the Richard Pryor, Chevy Chase audition.
It was word association, where, you know, where Chevy would say something, and then Pryor would react to it, and it got to honky, and it got to dead honky, all that, and I don't, I can't even tell you now, on your show, Doc, because it was so politically incorrect.
Eddie and I did that sketch in front of the producer and the staff of the new Saturday Night Live.
And as I was doing the sketch, I said to myself, this guy is the next Fryer.
It was Eddie.
And the rest is history, and literally two days ago we just reviewed the OG Beverly Hills Cop.
That's how Joe met Eddie Murphy.
So much more to say, but first things first.
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We live together in perfect harmony.
Side by side on the... Stevie, Stevie, hold on, Stevie.
Now, something tells me that this is more than a song about playing the piano.
Uh, Frank, it's about racial equality and unity of all people.
Well, uh, I don't understand.
When I think ebony, I think of a magazine that most people do not buy.
And when I think of ivory, I think of a soap that floats.
Ebony and Ivory are the black and white keys on the piano, Frank.
All right, Stevie, I know that.
You know that.
But it's too artsy for the public, kibish?
Now, I talked to the master, Sammy Kahn, and Sammy is a marvelous, marvelous songwriter.
No offense, Steve.
And Sammy thinks we should go with something like chocolate and vanilla.
Or how about this?
Life is an Eskimo pie.
Why don't we take a bite?
Yeah, I'm afraid that might be a bit offensive to some people.
Hey, who cares what the Eskimos think?
They don't buy records, huh?
Yeah, when SNL was funny and a skit you couldn't do today, just the way he says Eskimo pie, I think that's all blue eyes.
Dude, was that really you or was that Frank Sinatra in a better wig?
Oh man, you couldn't do it now, my brother.
You know, I tell you what, And we did that sketch, and I remember the great Sammy Kahn, one of Mr. Sinatra's great lyricists and composers, was watching that.
And we just had so much fun.
We ripped it up.
It was a reckless abandon.
We were allowed to do whatever we wanted.
We had a censor, Dr. Gorka said, we had a censor, an NBC censor, I remember the guy's name, Jim Henry, We took it to the limit.
But even with that sensor, we would push it over the top.
You couldn't do half the stuff now that we did on SNL back then.
And it's just, I just having fun.
We were just fun and laughing like that.
And if I can, Seth, I got to tell you, when When we were gonna put Eddie Murphy in the show We all went on a campaign to the producers at NBC to put Eddie in the show After we he and I did our edition.
They thought he was too edgy.
They said oh, he's too edgy He could be too offensive and and we said no This is the next greatest star that you're ever gonna see and sure enough Eddie went in We did a one-on-one.
I did the sports guy.
Hello again, everybody Joe Piscopo live Saturday night sports We'll talk a little bit about what it means to be a successful comedian and the whole Eddie and the improv phenomena.
And he ripped it up, man.
And like you said, the rest is history.
So I was just so grateful we had that freedom.
We'll talk a little bit about what it means to be a successful comedian and the whole Eddie and the improv phenomena.
But I've got to ask you, I mean, we've got this image of what you do on Sundays and how you celebrate Frank Sinatra, the music of Frank Sinatra, I'm just going to stop for a second.
Why?
Why was he so unique?
Because he doesn't fit into the classic, you know, mold of the crooner.
He wasn't the classic look.
He wasn't, you know, the teenybob heartthrob.
His delivery emotionally, the voice was everything for me.
You know him far better than anyone else because you pay tribute to him every week.
Talk to us a little bit about Sinatra and why, to this day, across every spectrum, age group, demographic, he just still has that, like Elvis, he just has that grip on us.
That's right.
Exactly.
You just described it because he wasn't a, like a, he didn't have the movie star looks.
Think about it.
He just had a, he was a guy.
He was a guy's guy when alpha males were okay to be alpha male.
And he was a guy and he had swagger and he owned it.
And as I study him more and more on that Sundays with Sinatra show, I could see, and I go down and I could hear in his voice, he would take a song and there, herein lies Why people still find him, I think, so appealing.
He performed a play.
He took that three minutes of a song and it became an epic piece of theater.
And when you hear it, every nuance of every lyric, he would caress it and feel it in his heart and in his soul.
It was like, it was like, I love the way you put that, it's like, and Tom Jones did this a little bit as well, but you know with racier, more upbeat music, but each song was delivered like a three minute opera.
That's exactly right.
And he knew that.
And he never ever sold out the lyrics ever on any song.
He would do pop songs, hip songs.
Like this week we're gonna do, we're down in Nashville.
The Sinatra family's opening up a Sinatra bar and lounge in Nashville.
So we're gonna go help open it up down there with Trishie Yearwood.
And I gotta tell ya, then I start Googling Frank Sinatra country songs.
He did some country, I swear he did country songs!
He did, by the time he got to Phoenix, he did some Chris Christopherson, you know?
He did a lot of those songs.
Nobody wins!
You know?
It was fabulous!
He could do anything he wanted to do.
And you've got your finger on the pulse of the Sinatra community with your Sunday show dedicated to Frank.
How popular is he now?
Give us some idea, because you must get the feedback.
How popular is he now, decades after he left us?
Yeah, it's pretty amazing.
Just the last week I did a show dedicated to Japan because we have a contingent of Japanese listeners.
Mr. Sanaka loved Japan.
He was there, performed there three times.
And I'll tell you what, I get social media feedback from 30-somethings, from 20-somethings.
They want that.
They want that.
And the mainstream media is not going to understand that.
They want to dress up.
They want to be cool.
They want to be like Mr. Sinatra and Dean Martin.
They want to be Sammy Davis.
They like that whole era.
And they embrace it now.
And what's amazing to me is, to your point about Mr. S making those three-minute songs, really, just like a little opera, a little play that young folks get it.
Because you know why?
They said, no one's doing it now.
No one can tell.
There's no, and beyond that, this thing about the cool, I mean, just the, not being that classic, you know, he's no Clark Gable, he's no Humphrey Bogart, but he's the epitome of cool and just, Joe, just the Rat Pack.
I mean, where's the rat?
They try to do their Ocean's Whatever 13 today and it's like a photocopy of a document that's been photocopied 30 times.
It's like, guys, you're not even close.
You know, whether it's goofy Sammy Davis Jr., whether it's, you know, Peter, whether it's Frank, these guys were a breed unto themselves.
And it's people like Joe that keeps the flame alive.
You've got to listen to him every Sunday.
His attributes to Frank Sinatra.
The website we can get lots of information is JoePiscopo.us.
And follow him right now on social media at Jersey with a Z. Jersey Joe Piscopo.
That's J-R-Z-Y Joe Piscopo on Twitter.
Listen to him every morning.
He's got the morning shift.
I don't know how he does that.
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Come in with cut 20, please.
What can you get for $6,110 these days?
You could get about three-quarters of a Toyota Cressida.
About four-fifths of a VW Dasher.
About three-quarters of a Datsun 810.
About two-thirds of an Audi 5000.
Or all of a full-size Buick LeSabre.
Which, incidentally, offers an EPA-estimated 18 miles per gallon.
Buick LeSabre.
What $6,110 buys these days...
When cars were very ugly, but if anybody could sell them, it was Jersey Joe Piscopo.
Joe, getting into ads, whether it's Dr Pepper, Buick, dude, you must, I don't know why you work today, because if you had the residuals on those ads, you would just like sitting on, you know, on your private island in, you know, you know, drinking Mai Tais, am I right?
Have you been living high since the 70s?
I gotta tell you, I made more money early on from those ads.
They were national.
They went national.
Every time they played, they made residuals.
I did Dr. Pepper, you know?
I actually sang and danced.
I'm a pepper, he's a pepper, she's a pepper, we're a pepper.
Wouldn't you like to be a pepper, too?
I'm dancing!
I'm that intelligent!
I'll tell you, it was so much fun.
We did a Schlitz beer ad.
We did so many ads.
I gotta tell you, though, as I After Saturday Night Live, I remember it was Miller Lite asked me to do some commercials, and again, I coupled up with a guy that I started out with, Bob Giroldi, the director, and we had a whole series of Miller Lite ads that we did that were fun.
Commercials rock, Seb, they really do.
Even now, when we do the Relief Factor ads, The fact that it's one of the great products out there, and honestly, we think will keep everybody out of pain, but we love Relief Factor, we love Balance of Nature, and when we do those ads, you know, it's just a lot of fun to do.
We'll talk about Relief Factor in a second, but I got a glimpse into your prior life because, you know, what was it, like six months ago?
The great Dr. Mixon and the team at Relief Factor flew me from where I am in the swamp To Seattle to film two 60 second commercials for Relief Factor.
So they paid for me to fly across America.
There we go.
That's the ad.
I was in a studio.
I was in a local park and I arrived there and I'm like, Who are all these people?
What's going on here?
I have a daily radio show for three hours and we have four guys, four guys that make us happen for three hours and I get to this studio.
Joe and you were there but this is the first time I'd ever done a commercial in studio.
I sat there waiting to put the makeup on and I counted 42 people.
42.
When I got to the park with Wyatt the Stunt Dog to film the Relief Factor ad, they had a trailer for my makeup.
And I'm going, what?
I'm not Russell.
I know I look as handsome or even more than Russell Crowe.
This is a 60-second ad, Joe.
This stuff is insane.
And you had a person come up to you and say, we're ready for you now, Dr. Berman.
You know, you had that guy, man.
You had that guy.
I mean, we are so fortunate to be with the good folks at Relief Factor.
And when they do it, they do it right.
But it blew my mind.
I mean, I don't know how many people do your three hour radio show.
I'm sure it's similar to mine, but it's not 42 people for an hour.
No, no.
Matter of fact, this is funny because I come up from the entertainment industry, from all the bad that you just described.
So when I say to our boss, Mr. Crowley in New York, hey, can I get a couple more guys for this?
And he goes, no.
You can't.
It's like, that's it.
You've got one guy already.
What do you want?
Exactly right.
You know, but I thought, you know, I have to tell you, too, on those really fact read state of the art completely.
You know that.
How about the LED system that they have?
Incredible.
Was that wild?
Said you walk in, you walk in and And they go like, well, where is the location?
No, they build the location.
Oh, whatever you want, whether it's a garage, whether it's a beach.
They did a mansion for me when I advertised their sleep product.
And then I'm not going to say it on air.
And then I asked them, so how much does it cost to rent this LED screen?
Man alive.
It's some serious simoleons.
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I'm just getting so distracted.
You keep mentioning things.
I quickly, while you're talking, I look them up on YouTube.
I send them to my guys to process it.
They get the clip ready and then we surprise you.
We've got one more surprise left for you.
But let's talk about serious stuff.
Let's talk about the fact that you keep New York and Jersey sane for three hours a day.
God bless you.
Let's talk about what happened recently in Manhattan.
This is the Soros-funded district attorney who Recently charged my former boss on 34 spurious accounts which have all expired five years ago due to the statute of limitations.
And then at the press conference, a journalist from the mainstream media performed an act of random journalism.
Play cut.
In my remarks, I mentioned a couple of laws, which I will highlight again now.
The first is New York State election law, which makes it a crime to conspire to promote a candidacy by unlawful means.
I further indicated a number of unlawful means, including more additional false statements, including statements that were planned to be made to tax authorities.
I also noted the federal election law cap on contribution limits.
But why weren't those crimes charged?
Why wasn't he charged with those crimes?
I'm not going to go into our delivery process on what was brought.
The charges that were brought were the ones that were brought.
The evidence in the law is the basis for those decisions.
So in that press conference, he said two things that were just mind-blowing.
He said, I don't have to mention the crimes that were committed, the felonies were committed.
I don't have to mention them, which is like totally Stalin-esque.
And then he also said that he doesn't have to, we will not ignore serious crimes in Manhattan.
Joe, talk to us about serious crimes in Manhattan in the last three years.
When I came up like we were just talking about in New York in the late 70s before Mayor Giuliani became mayor, it was, you used to have to double up to go across.
Larry David and I would have to double up, for example, to go to get a sandwich at a place.
Right, meaning you'd go in pairs, right?
You couldn't survive if you didn't.
It was as simple as that in New York.
We're right back, and by the way, and you couldn't go from the comedy clubs In midtown to down to the village without taking a buddy with you.
It was that dangerous.
We're right back where we started.
And now for this guy and I'm tell I speak on behalf of Democrats, independents, libertarians, Republicans.
All of us were appalled at what Alvin Bragg did because this is it in a nutshell.
If you're a criminal and you stick a gun in someone's face and you don't pull the trigger, you stick a gun in a bodega owner, a hard working bodega owner.
And then if you don't, and they catch you, that you know what?
Bragg would get that charge down from a felony, that to a misdemeanor, and that guy would be back on the street again.
It's a cyclical problem in New York.
New York can't get its mojo back because of Alvin Bragg.
You know, even the mayor, like him or not, he's trying.
Now, even Governor Hochul now is saying, we can't let these criminals back on the streets.
Why?
Because you're talking about it, Seb.
I'm talking about it every morning.
You can't.
There's got to be consequences.
It's why we have all these shootings.
These guys are running rampant.
And Bragg and all these Soros-funded DAs, exactly what you said, are bringing down and slowly crumbling all the great big cities.
And I can't figure it out.
So when he goes after Donald Trump, you know, everybody, Democrats, The far left woke socialists, even they said there's nothing there.
This guy is going to lose and he's going to lose big time.
But why do the Democrats still vote Democrat in New York?
Can you help?
Can you help me out?
Yes.
Yes.
Thank you.
Because I talk about it on my radio show on AM 970 every morning.
I was, I'm a former lifelong Democrat.
For my whole life, I was a blue dog Democrat from JFK.
I was a Reagan Democrat.
It was Ronald Reagan, meeting Ronald Reagan.
It really changed my mindset politically.
But I was a Democrat.
I couldn't even say the word Republican.
I couldn't say it, man.
I would just go in and I would just blindly vote Democrat, blindly vote.
But when you, we work, and the great job you do on the radio, Which we all love.
And me following all the great folks at Salem, like Mike Gallagher and all our buddies at Dennis Brager.
You have to do your homework on this network.
You have to layer back, triple check.
I'm exhausted.
It's like doing a term paper every morning.
You gotta look and look and look.
And when you see how flagrant People like this guy, Alvin Bragg, and how wrong they are.
And we know how to stop the crime.
We know how to bring back the economy.
We know how to keep the borders secure.
We know how to keep our people safe, my children safe, in school.
We know it.
Why?
We study it relentlessly every single morning.
But the nerve and the gall, and I'm watching my language, of this guy, Alvin Bragg, inexcusable.
And everybody knows it.
Everybody knows it.
He made, I'll tell you what, he made you and I, and the rest of us who stick up in this gay country, look pretty darn good.
Because that guy's not going to get anything out of Donald Trump.
I got news for you.
Yeah, so you walk the line because you are in New York, but you tell the truth.
Let me ask you, broadcasting as you do from AM 970 and with the audience that you have, this decision by Bragg, isn't this the dumbest thing the radicals have done when it comes to the popularity of my former boss?
Yes.
And just if I have 30 seconds, if I may.
Because people go, oh Joe, oh God, now Joe's a Trump guy, he's a conservative, he's on Salem.
Hey, hey, he's a lifelong Democrat.
I know Donald Trump, and I... Who was a Democrat until 2015, please, guys, who was the talk of the town, who was doing cameos in movies, who was loved by SNL, who was, you know, making donations to the Clintons.
The guy was a Democrat.
His only sin was to become a Republican.
And every non-profit that needed Melania and Donald to show up, particularly New Jersey, when he first went to Bedminster, he was there every single time.
You couldn't get anybody warmer than Melania.
And I've known Donald from day one.
Donald from day one.
That's gotta be 40 years.
I worked for him in Atlantic City.
Hey, let me tell you, he would send the private jet.
He'd bring you down.
He would treat you like a king.
And sometimes when you bump in your career and things aren't going good, I remember this distinctly and I'll never forget this.
Because when I went down to the Taj, I went in, it was one of those down times, and I got the word from his executive, Dennis Gomes, anything Joe needs.
You don't forget those things.
That's him.
That's him.
You know, people don't understand.
And then when you go and close doors in the Secret Service, put your phone in and you go, you know, you see this man who remembers your family, every worker that worked for him.
He knows everything about those workers.
My wife.
was a presidential appointee, but she worked at DHS, the Department of Homeland Security, not the White House.
She met President Trump twice at the Christmas party.
Twice, okay?
To take the photograph.
I went to see the president for my third book, The War on America's Soul, and I walk into the Oval, I haven't even sat down, and he looks up and he says, How's Katie?
And you go, what?
How many people does he meet in a day?
How many tens of hundreds of thousands has he met in the last 50 years?
But he remembers my wife's name.
It's insane.
We're talking to Jersey Joe Piscopo.
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I am master of the ancient art of karate, kung fu, and the Chinese triple.
No!
But what about socializing?
I always reach for a cold Miller Lite.
Lite tastes great.
Lite less filling, too.
Hey, anybody want a pepperoni?
Ain't you proud, Bird?
Only one Lite reader.
Miller Lite.
I don't know who did the special effects for that ad, but that bodysuit you had on, those muscles, those are very impressive, Joe.
I worked out.
I did a three-month fast workout.
That's really you, right?
Yeah, oh yeah.
Dude, that was like, you look stronger than Bruce Lee.
I'm telling you what, I trained, it was so hard, I dieted, I trained, and I had Pete Browning, and I remember, again, we had a lot of guys that, Bob Giroldi shot that commercial, but I had to work, and it was what it was, and man, I gotta tell you, back in the day, Oh man, I don't think Dylan Mulvaney is going to be doing an ad like that for Bud Light any time soon.
But he's probably very jealous.
I think he probably can't slice a pizza with a karate chop like you can.
You're absolutely right, but that's when beer commercials were beer commercials.
And when they were fun!
Come on, it's fun!
And I'm sure even Bruce Lee would have thought it was fun.
Guys, if you're just listening to this show, I'm sorry, after we're finished, after we're done, we'll be done in two minutes, You gotta go to YouTube and put in Miller Lite Bruce Lee Piscopo ad.
Watch it.
It will blow your mind and it will remind you of the good times we lived in.
On that note, gotta ask you, because you're one of us.
You're a happy warrior.
What you do every day on AM 970, The Answer, is crucial to the sanity of millions of people.
Tell us why you're an optimist and why you're a happy warrior, Joe.
Well, it's in the name of my father and my dear mother.
You know, my mother, God bless her.
She listens every single morning.
You know, I think that's the impetus of my drive.
And my father was a captain in the United States Army Air Corps in the Second World War.
He would sit and tell me how great this country was.
And as I look over in my office here, Sam, and I see pictures of my grandfather, my great-grandfather, all my people, if I may, that came from Italy to this country.
They learned the language.
They learned the laws.
They learned How great America was.
And my dad would tell me how proud they were to come to the great America.
In the name of my dad, in the name of my mom, it is my responsibility to maintain and continue that legacy.
And it upsets me terribly when I see them try to tear down this beautiful country.
It's a great country, we're good people, and good will always prevail over evil.
It's a beautiful, beautiful message.
Couldn't have been put better.
He's got an Italian flag behind him and he's got an American Stars and Stripes on the bookshelf as well.
God bless you, Joe Piscopo, for everything you do.
You're an inspiration to so many.
We've got to save not just Manhattan and Jersey, we've got to save this nation.
Every single one of our millions of listeners has a role to play.
Don't just listen to Joe.
Don't just, you know, enjoy His celebration of Frank Sinatra on a Sunday.
Get engaged.
If every single one of you listening gets politically engaged, I don't care if it's the local school library board, then we will be that shiny, bright city on a hill again.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
You've been listening to America First One-on-One.
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