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They know that we can defeat them.
They know that we will defeat them.
But they're not coming after me, they're coming after you.
I'm just standing in their way.
And I always will stand in their way.
Maybe we have to make that the new addition to our open here on America First, at least for the next 20, 21 months, because it's just a statement of fact.
Greetings.
Welcome, dear friends, to America First with me, your host, Sebastian Gawker.
That was President Trump's announcement, the video he posted on Truth Social after the first initial felonious leaks from the office of District Attorney Alvin Bragg in Manhattan.
When we heard that the first time ever in history a former president and current leader of the opposition would be charged with a crime.
A crime that we know now did not occur.
34 instances of a putative misdemeanor.
That with some spurious, made-up, hypothetical, alchemical concept of legal theory that has never been applied before, they have tried to turn into 34 felonies, stating that a misstatement of a business record to cover another crime is a felony.
But they won't tell you what that crime is, because there was no crime.
Just as there was no crime in having any connection with Russia during the presidential campaign, or the Trump administration in which I served.
Just as there was no crime when the president took classified documents to his Secret Service secured home, just as there was no crime during Impeachment 1 or Impeachment 2, just as there was no crime when President Trump held a rally on January 6 and told his supporters to march peacefully and patriotically to the Capitol in the hopes that the then President of the Senate
The Vice President, Mike Pence, would exercise his constitutional rights and to send the results from four battleground states that had strangely, very suspiciously, been reversed in the period of just a few hours overnight back to those states for further investigation and verification.
President Trump has committed no crime.
Ever.
The trouble is, you committed a crime.
You voted for him.
How dare you?
There is a unitary political elite in this country that doesn't give a damn about you.
If you're not part of their anointed circle of individuals, then you don't matter.
You're exploitable.
Whatever your demographic, wherever you came from, wherever you sit in the socio-economic ladder of life, you're just a pawn.
You're just a tool.
And if you work for a living, if you have calloused hands, if you leave your boots outside when you come home at night and have work clothes that are dirty every day because you do a real job, you are beneath contempt.
If you build something every day, if you fix something, if you drive something, if you run machinery, then you're a nobody.
You're a peon.
You are to be looked down upon.
If you don't live in a fancy apartment and do your work from home or from the nearest Starbucks on their Wi-Fi, Then you don't matter.
If you don't live in one of the bi-coastal big cities, if you're not from LA, if you're not from New York or Boston, San Francisco, you might as well not exist.
Except for one thing.
You need to pay your taxes.
And you've got to vote for the only party that they care for.
The party that has been radicalized in the last 40 years.
A party that doesn't care about America, our sovereignty, doesn't care about future generations, doesn't care about the truth, doesn't care about the vulnerable, be they the aged in old people's homes who are sent there to die by governors like Andrew Cuomo, doesn't care about the most precious thing in the world,
Which is an unborn child.
In fact, the abortion industry is deemed to be of great utility for the targeting of black America, for keeping black populations under control.
As that now notorious billboard sign in New York once stated, and it's just an empirical statement of numerical data, The most dangerous place in New York for a black child is in her mother's womb.
Whether you can make tens, hundreds of millions from the abortion industry, not just the abortion industry, that is of course locating Planned Parenthood clinics, rather centers of mass murder, close and inside black communities,
Or whether it's the tens and hundreds of millions of dollars made by just saying this sentence out loud, even if we now know it to be true, is hard to do.
Making all that money from the wholesale selling of the body parts of fetuses, of the unborn Or whether it is the targeting of those who have been born.
But, as teenagers, with hormones coursing through their body, in many cases being on the spectrum, being autistic, confused about who they are and how they relate to those around them, especially those of the opposite sex, those children can be targeted.
First by a teacher separating them from their parents, just like a sexual predator, like a pedophile does.
Then by taking them to drag queen story hour.
And then eventually telling them, oh, your problems, your confusion, it'll all be solved if we change your gender.
Here, take this pill.
Here, prepare yourself for this surgery.
Let's remove fully functioning sexual organs.
Let's make you sterile irreversibly for the rest of your life.
Let's give you drugs that are used to castrate sexual predators in prison.
Let's destroy you forever.
So by the time you have gone through with your transition surgery, which won't change your chromosomal makeup, if you're a boy, you'll die a man.
If you're a girl, you'll die a woman.
But it won't solve anything.
In fact, it will lead to up to 50% of those who go through with the quote-unquote transition trying to kill themselves.
But hey, Boston Children's Hospital, they made millions of dollars just last week from these surgeries all across the nation.
It's big, big business.
It's not about him.
It's not about my former boss, President Trump.
It's about you.
If you love America.
If you believe in the truth.
If you want to protect the elderly, the unborn, and young children.
What are you doing about it?
What are you politically doing about it?
Just listening to this show?
Because that won't cut it.
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We have Mr. Solomon on Skype.
Hey guys, how are you?
Good!
Just did a spontaneous monologue.
Oh good, you saw the latest news of Bragg suing Jordan?
Yeah, I know.
I've got a scoop coming out tonight that I think people will be interested in.
The federal funds that were used to fund the Trump investigation.
So I can tease that on your show today.
Good.
Can we talk about the National Archives piece you sent me and then you could tease that?
Sure.
Absolutely.
Something doesn't add up with our story right now.
I did enjoy the original Ocean's Eleven more than the remake.
Oh, like a million percent.
Yeah.
Even though it's not a happy ending, certainly, compared to the remake.
Right.
Alright, 80 seconds.
There's a probably lit John.
Alright, Mr. Fixit.
Any better?
Mr. Fixit.
Perfect.
Yeah, looks great.
Alright.
There's one dead to the right, but I think we'll be okay.
Yeah, we'll be fine.
Alright, we got 60 seconds.
Very good, thank you.
Oh, and I gotta mention, I'm gonna mention the visits by Hunter Biden's business partner to the White House.
Oh yeah, that's something we did a couple years ago.
Somehow, Fox resurrected it.
They're catching up to all my reporting from a year ago.
It just takes them like a year.
Yeah.
Well, a year ago, they weren't willing to even acknowledge that it was a story.
Story.
Yeah, now they're on it.
Then it'll take them five minutes to call Arizona for Biden.
Oh, yeah.
Ouch.
Exactly.
Ouch.
That's funny.
Oh, you've got the images of my, uh, filtered Twitters?
Uh, yeah, the censored, the cens- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The tweets of you mentioning they're censoring and then the original pictures.
Yeah, I'm going to mention those with John.
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He runs one of the most reliable news outlets on the planet.
It's called justinews.com, and he's got some news for us.
John Solomon, welcome back to America First.
Great to be with you, Sam.
Let's have a little bit of fun in addition to what you sent me this morning.
Why does it take even establishment conservative media a year to report what you reported 12 months ago?
We have the headline, Fox News, Hunter Biden's business partners and assistants visited the White House over 80 times when Biden was vice president.
I think you reported this a while back, didn't you, John?
We have, yeah.
We looked up a lot of them.
They may have had a few new ones today, but we've had a vast majority of them.
And the truth of the matter is Hunter Biden's business associates were basically going in and out of a revolving door at the White House.
Everything about this smacks of a pay-to-play influence peddling scheme.
You have access to the White House.
You meet them.
We had Blue Star who was trying to help.
It was a Blue Star strategy.
He's trying to help Hunter Biden resolve his Ukraine problems.
And they're in the White House meeting with the vice president just before the vice president goes to Ukraine.
There's another one who's now cooperating with James Comer's investigation, who was handling both Joe Biden's taxes and Hunter Biden's taxes at the same time.
Eric Schwerwin.
He's in and out of the White House.
We know the business partner that got Hunter Biden his job at Burisma, Devin Archer, he was meeting with the vice president.
In fact, he meets with the vice president the day before Hunter Biden lands his job.
All those business partners had carte blanche access to the vice president and his staff.
Because what Hunter Biden was selling was the influence of his name.
Remember that famous email, when the Chinese come bearing the gifts of the big three-carat diamond and millions of dollars of cash, and he says, they're not interested in my skill set, they're interested in my last name.
Hunter Biden knew he was selling his last name.
And when we have, we've played the video repeatedly, we have the current incumbent of the White House saying, I never discussed business with my son Hunter Biden.
Look, no joking aside, I know that the cheeseburgers in the Navy mess in the White House were really good, but I don't think Hunter Biden's business partners were going to the White House 80 times for cheeseburgers.
No, I think that's right.
And, you know, one possibility is that they did a lot of the business so that Hunter Biden wouldn't.
Hunter Biden opened the door.
They could go in and do the business without them doing it.
We know that Hunter Biden's associates were lobbying the State Department.
We got that on the record.
Eventually, they had to register belatedly for the fact that they had those contacts at the State Department.
There's no doubt that Hunter Biden and his team had carte blanche access all throughout the Obama years.
And it raises the question, what sort of access do they have now?
Yeah, what kind of access do they have now that the former vice president is now the chief executive?
All right, received early this morning from John.
It's literally at the top of my Twitter feed, my Facebook feeds as well.
We have not just what Alvin Bragg is doing in Manhattan, but the overarching, the The Mar-a-Lago raid-related classified document story.
Here's the headline from Justin News.
Internal memos call into question National Archives' narrative to Congress on Trump documents.
What's the latest, John?
Well, for the longest time, the National Archives has been telling members of Congress, the House Intelligence Committee, House Judiciary Committee, House Oversight Committee, we don't have anything to share with you.
We don't want to testify.
We don't want to give you documents.
Because we dropped out of the investigation of Donald Trump on February 9th of 2022.
That's been their line.
It's been told to Democrats and Republicans alike.
There's just one problem with it.
There's been recent FOIAs released that really debunk that timeline.
You can see in April of 2022, two months after NARA said they weren't involved anymore, they get a request from the White House, hey, give special access to the FBI to go look at the first 15 boxes that Donald Trump returned from Mar-a-Lago.
Well, that means you're involved in the investigation.
Months later, August of 2022, it's clear that NARA is asking, hey, get us the file number for all the work we did on the FBI.
I need to take a look at it.
And they're saying, you mean about the 15 boxes?
Yeah, I need to do that.
They were mortified when I broke a story saying that the Biden White House had been involved with the archives and trying to get Donald Trump investigated.
There's all this panic around that time.
Those emails are out there.
They clearly were engaging and discussing and assisting the FBI investigation long after they claimed they dropped out, and that's their own document showing that.
Several members of Congress, Comer and Jordan among them, are likely to begin asking questions in the next couple days about that.
Alright, you can read it on Facebook, Truth Social, my Twitter feed, it's right there.
Don't forget to follow John as well at J. Solomon Reports.
Every time you come on the show, almost every time, you say you might have something to tease, give us a little indication of the next story you're going to break.
Well, as you mentioned, Alvin Bragg, just a little while ago, sued Jim Jordan saying, you don't belong in my business.
There's no congressional interest in investigating why I went after Donald Trump, what I did, why my prosecutors were leaking in books and in news media.
Well, we're going to be able to show that there's a very clear angle that Alvin Bragg has given Congress to investigate.
At least $5,000 of civil asset forfeiture money received by the Manhattan District Attorney's Office from the federal government through the asset forfeiture program was used to pursue some of the cases against Donald Trump.
Why is that significant?
That is a direct oversight matter for Jim Jordan.
It's not one that the courts are going to look lightly at.
Hey, use federal funds for a state investigation.
Of course Jim Jordan can look at that.
I think that's good.
We're going to lay out the details a little bit more about what we know about that, why it's important, what comes next from it in the next 24 hours.
But as you read Alvin Bragg's lawsuit, which just came out, keep in mind he may have made a mistake by using those federal funds.
It opens the door for Congress to say, we want to monitor your money.
That's what we do.
Power of the purse!
Now given how you've monitored these issues for decades now, what do you think is going to happen in the standoff between Jim Jordan and Bragg?
So Jordan fired the first shot, Bragg is now countersuing.
Do you think a DA in Manhattan can just ignore Congress and not appear if he's subpoenaed?
He's gonna try, and then we'll find out if the Justice Department that had no problem prosecuting Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon has a problem prosecuting a Democrat.
It's gonna work its way through the court system.
What Alvin Bragg did today was slow this down for months, and it's clear that he's alarmed that Congress is looking at certain issues.
They're probably over some target that he's worried about, and that's why he doesn't want to let those communications out.
But this is going to get slowed down.
It's going to be weeks or months in the court, much like what happened in the battles between the January 6th committee and different witnesses.
The good news for Jim Jordan is the courts have been pretty affirmative of the right of a Congress committee to do investigations.
Even if there's a prosecution going on simultaneously, that's going to benefit Jim Jordan.
All right.
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Let's go to Jared in Philadelphia.
Jared, welcome.
Hey, how's it going?
Just wanted to know how you're coping.
How thirsty are you now that you can't drink your precious Bud Light?
Well, I haven't drunk an alcohol since my parents died in 2003, so I'm doing just fine, Jared.
Why did you have Bud Light to pour out then?
Did you go buy a six-pack?
No, because the best friend of mine drinks it, and I'm a good host.
Don't you give your guests what they like to drink, or are you a bad host, Jared?
So what is now the new manly drink that you're allowed to serve?
And why did you throw it out?
Why?
Because transgenderism is a plague on this nation and Western civilization that leads to children being scarred and sterilized for life.
Why do you like to abuse children, Jared?
Explain that to me.
Do you believe in circumcision?
Do you believe in circumcision?
Because that is unnecessary medical violation.
Well, uh, I'm not Jewish.
Nobody in my family is circumcised.
So why were you obsessed with my family?
It's not about minors having their perfectly functioning sexual organs removed.
You know what circumcision is, right?
You still have a penis after you're circumcised.
Are you that stupid, Jared?
Get off my show!
Let's go to Don, Los Angeles.
Uh, Dr. G, the rolling thunder of... Common sense!
Let's just say, let's try common sense.
Yes, Dr. G, whatever happened to man and woman getting together, having a family, going to church, loving their country?
I guess we have to apologize for that now.
I guess we're... Well, you know, Don, that is... You say it with irony or sarcasm, but, you know, you've really hit the nail on the head.
Think about that.
The left now takes offense at a man and a woman who have a family, raise children, go to church, and love America.
That's where we've arrived at.
Don, what you just said tells you exactly how sick and perverted the left have become.
Don, you nailed it.
You know, it's so true, Dr. G. I mean, your monologue, man, knocked it out of the park.
It's like, we have to step back from the forest, you know, step back to see the forest for the tree.
When we look how far we've sunk in such a short time, it's just really frightening.
But real quick, I wanted to touch on Ukraine real fast.
Yeah.
Just real fast.
I don't want us to get... I support Ukraine.
I support the war effort.
I think it's money well spent.
Obviously, they're winning.
If they're wasting the money and it was going to the wrong hands... If they were losing, it would be another problem.
Yeah.
My problem is I'm afraid the Democrats are pursuing a Vietnam-Afghanistan type strategy where we pour in tons of resources Tons of wealth, tons of weaponry, but they don't have a strategy.
I want to know, what's the strategy for victory?
What does victory look like?
Oh, Don, Don, Don, do not, do not hold your breath.
They have no strategy.
The only reason they started taking action beyond any surreptitious things they wanted to do with their, you know, crooked Ukrainian contacts through the Bidens is because Britain embarrassed them.
Don, look at the documents that have been leaked.
I mean, look, look, I'm not going to mention, you know, the details of the numbers because I still have my clearance.
But if you look at the leaked documents, we see that the UK that has a fractional capacity to watch what which we do in terms of expeditionary and special forces capabilities, they have made a threefold commitment to Ukraine in comparison to us.
They only acted because they were bloody embarrassed.
So I'm sorry to say, tell you, Don, The clowns, the amateurs, the arrogant ideologues in the White House, they have no idea what they're doing.
But thank you for reminding us what the left has become.
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But there's a new documentary series out that talks to everything that is so timely at the moment when it comes to the Second Amendment and gun rights in America.
And we have with us the host of this new product or this new documentary series.
It's called Firearms and Freedoms.
Ammunition for debate.
James Saccomano, welcome to America First.
Thanks so much for having me, Sebastian.
It's great to be here.
How are you?
Good.
I'm always good.
I love doing what I do, and especially when I meet people who are going to educate others on a thing that I love, which is the first civil right, the civil right that makes all others possible.
So tell us about this project, this multi-part series that people can watch at firearmsandfreedoms.com and why you're doing it because I've done this before.
It takes a lot of time and a lot of money.
So tell us about your project and what motivated you.
The motivation was kind of simple.
Jeff Hayes Films, who's producing this, created it.
Jeff, the initial thing, he simply stumbled across one of those statistics about how many times crime is stopped by a lawfully caring person in this country.
And the numbers are staggering, you know, depending which statistic you look at.
The low end's over half a million, the high end's two million.
That's per year.
My buddy, AWR Hawkins at Breitbart, who's kept an eye on this, he's one of the few people who documents this year on year.
You know, the average, James, and you know this, but I want our millions of listeners to know, is more than a million instances every year of a law-abiding citizen saving lives and neutralizing a threat with their concealed carry weapon.
Indeed.
And so Jeff saw that and immediately went to, okay, this story is being censored, so let's look at it.
So he asked me if I would be willing to join, and I jumped all over it.
I'm a firm constitutionalist.
And so we went from there, from that little nugget, and really the first thing I thought we should show is, who is the American gun owner?
Like, what does the American gun owner look like?
And that was really interesting.
The diversity in the gun community is, it's everywhere.
Yeah, and in the last few years, thanks to COVID, we kept track of these details.
So we have over 100,000 gun owners in America, but at least 25-30 million new gun owners in just the last few years.
So what is the goal of the film series?
Because I think it's more of a, what, a reasoned discussion you want to have.
This isn't some kind of rah-rah, you know, Second Amendment, NRA product.
It's a little bit different.
Yeah, very much so.
There's enough division out there in every topic.
What we really wanted to do was just look at the gun owner side.
There's over 100 million gun owners in this country.
They deserve a voice.
So let's talk to them and let's get their viewpoint and get it out there.
And we spoke to Victims of crimes, victims of domestic abuse.
We've spoke to heroes who have stopped crimes.
We've spoke to lobbyists, police officers, military, people in local governments and state governments.
And had discussions about what's going on in the gun debate.
What is the truth?
You know, a lot of statistics gets thrown out there, particularly after a shooting.
And so let's get to the bottom of it.
Let's look at the real data.
You know, we've recently had a shooting.
Anytime there's a school shooting, it's about as emotional as it gets.
And everybody's putting out what's feel-good legislation, you know.
They want to put out new gun restrictions without really looking at what is the problem.
And what did you find with regards to gun restrictions?
I mean, the most obvious thing I always say is, which criminal or which psychotic is going to respect the sign that says gun-free zone?
Well, that's the obvious thing.
I mean, 94% of mass shootings have happened in gun-free zones.
The criminals aren't going to obey.
That's why they're criminals.
So all the gun legislation does is limit the law-abiding citizen in their ability to defend themselves and their family.
And And the statistics bear that out where you've got some of the most restrictive gun laws.
You know, Illinois, for example, really strict gun laws.
Chicago, it's in the news every day.
It's a war zone.
Yeah, it's absolutely shocking.
You just look at an average weekend in Chicago.
It's between 50 and 70 people shot on an average weekend and 10, 12, 15 people who are killed.
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So, yeah, I was wondering, why does it seem that everything the left is involved with or trying to promote seems to point towards population control or decrease?
Yeah, that's a very good question.
Whether it's abortion, whether it's the sterilization of children, whether it's all of the green new deals, control on what we're allowed to eat.
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You know why it is, Ted?
Disarming the citizens, drug overdoses, the masks, the vast machines, the side effects.
The whole nine yards.
It points in one direction.
Yeah, you know why it is, Ted.
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Yes, sir?
The piece I have from you, it's the draft version, but I presume it's already run or it's imminently going to... It was out yesterday.
Yesterday, perfect.
Okay, good.
I'm going to pull one quote from it and then we will discuss.
Where do you stand on the threat to Taiwan?
Here's one of the few areas where I part company with my friend Henry Kissinger.
I think we have to, I mean, his view, and Mr. Nixon's, was that Mao Zedong said, look, we won't think of that seriously for a hundred years, so let's leave it the way it is.
And Henry's view is just stop talking about it and it won't be a problem.
I think that, and partly because of the weakness of the Biden administration, the Chinese clearly are onto a new Good.
a new mode of operation here and really are rattling the windows.
I give Biden credit for this.
In his defense authorization bill, he stated directly, and I haven't walked it back, that if Taiwan would attack, the U.S. would intervene directly.
And I support that.
We absolutely have to draw the line.
So if you'll indulge me, I'm going to play a cut from Mark Levin from his Sunday show on China.
And then we'll take it from there.
And then we'll discuss your article in the second segment.
Yeah.
Sebastian, when we're finished, would you just have Half a minute in private?
Yeah, I have three minutes between segments.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'll just need half a minute.
Yeah, sure.
Standby.
All right, guys, so I'll tee up Levin, come in, and then I'll indicate when you can slowly start teeing it down.
Yep, teeing up cut three, 40 seconds.
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Mr. G, quick question.
You're a radio pro.
You've been doing it for much, much longer than I have.
Why is it that so few of us conservative hosts quote or play cuts from other conservative hosts?
I've always wondered that.
I think that they don't like it when someone else comes up with a good point or something.
Some do that.
So it's like an ego thing?
That's what I think.
Alright, well, I don't suffer from that.
I love my fellow hosts, not just on Salem, but elsewhere, whether it's Chris Plant, Larry O'Connor, whether it's great names like Mark Levin, and of course, We have constant cuts from Rush Limbaugh.
Dan Bongino I listen to every day.
Here's the great one, not on his radio show, but on his weekend TV show.
And wow, he's pretty clear about the threat we face from Asia.
Cut three.
We need to prepare for war against China.
I don't mean go to war.
I don't mean initiate a war.
But they are preparing for war.
We are completely unprepared as a nation psychologically.
We are completely unprepared economically and immigration-wise in securing our border.
Our military is not prepared in the sense that they're pushing this woke ideology.
Our military budgets do not reflect the threats that we are facing in the world around us.
I want to say it again, so the backbenchers regurgitate it.
We must prepare for war against China.
Not because we want war, not because we're going to cause war, but because they want war.
That's the point.
Not because we want war, but because they want war.
Is he right?
Let's dissect with our regular guest for all matters presidential history, strategy, domestic politics, Lord Conrad Black.
Welcome back to America First.
Thank you very much, Sebastian.
Always a pleasure.
So I think it's apocryphal.
I don't think anybody's found it quoted officially in any, you know, ComSomal, Politburo document.
But Trotsky is affiliated with the phrase, you may not be interested in war, but war's interested in you.
Your take on Mark Levin's warning that China's serious and the weekend's events of the nine warships, the dozens of military aircraft that flew into Taiwanese airspace.
I think it's a good question.
I agree with him apart from one thing.
Certainly I agree that the United States has to make a radical change in the way it's conducting foreign policy and has to make it clear to everybody That it is not a country to be trifled with.
The spirit of deterrence which President Roosevelt promised on his war message the day after Pearl Harbor to impose and make clear, so that, as he put it, this form of treachery never again endangers us, that is starting to lapse, and Afghanistan was a big part of it.
All of that I agree with Mark Levin.
But I don't think that China wants war with the U.S.
What China wants is victory without war.
It wants the fruit of war without war.
The non-kinetic victory.
Yeah, but on the other hand, I believe that his policy prescription is exactly the right one.
You know, the old Roman saying, If you want peace, prepare for war.
And the Chinese have to understand that beyond a certain point, including if they attempt, pardon me, reunification by force, which it was agreed in the Shanghai communique in 1972 with Mr. Nixon would not be done, that if they attempt that, they will face a war that they should not be confident about the outcome of.
And I think that has to be done, and I agree with what he said.
The generals are a joke.
The chairman of the Joint Chiefs predicted for the world a Russian victory within two weeks occupying all of Ukraine.
They're chiefly concerned with woke nonsense and self-accusations, institutional self-accusations of racism, which are rubbish.
And not, you know, he defined as a Sputnik moment the fact But the senior military hierarchy, including himself, failed to keep pace with China and Russia in hypersonic weapons, and cannot now, in fact, give an adequate defense for the Nimitz-class aircraft carriers.
We have a spectacle of failure in the Pentagon, and American military power is not respected the way it needs to be, and should be.
I've been a great supporter of giving aid to Ukraine.
But if you're going to do that, you've got to make sure that you replenish your own supplies.
So you've got the inventories of weapons and ammunition necessary, munitions, to respond to a threat.
And my fear is we aren't there.
And furthermore, the oil reserve is running down.
We don't want the Navy running out of fuel.
And let's talk about the significance of the actions of the PLA over the weekend.
That, yes, you know, incursions are par for the course.
We had the spy satellite, the balloon, traversing all of the United States.
But to have nine battleships, to have literally scores of military aircraft under the guise of a military exercise, which is exactly what Putin did when he amassed his troops along the Ukrainian border, How concerned are you that this is a ratcheting up, at least in terms of the propaganda message that Beijing is sending to America and the world and Australia and Japan and everybody else?
I'm very concerned, but as that, as a propaganda message, I mean, my analysis for what it's worth, but it is based on a fair amount of research, and particularly reading people who really are experts on the subject, is that invading Taiwan would be a very hazardous business.
I mean, you'd need at least half a million men, they'd be out in blue water for four times the distance that The Western Allies were crossing, you know, Americans, British and Canadians crossing to Normandy in 1944 when we had absolute superiority of air and sea, which China would not have.
And that would be dangerous.
Now, on the other hand, a program of an embargo and harassment and that sort of thing, I think they might be more tempted by that, and that would be harder to deal with, but it could be dealt with.
And the comparison of, I mean, you wrote the book, Donald J. Trump, a president like no other amongst your other presidential histories on Nixon and FDR.
Just give us your sense of how those antithetical to the Western way of doing business, Well, I am afraid that the second speaks for itself.
looked at the 40 how our enemies looked at the 45th president of the united states and the measure they have taken of the current incumbent uh well i i am afraid that the the second is speaks for itself i mean the conduct of the russians and the chinese and the north koreans and the iranians and some of our so-called allies including turkey all of that is so outrageous
it makes it quite clear that they don't take this administration seriously I don't think anyone believes that the United States is not a very great and powerful country.
It's like Napoleon's comment about an army of lions led by a lamb.
It's a great nation, but it has no leadership right now.
In the case of President Trump, I think, again, the facts of what happened in those four years also speak for themselves.
There was a drastic diminution in the provocations from North Korea.
Iran was absolutely starved for money to help Hezbollah, Houthi, and Hamas, the terrorist organizations in the Middle East, and was really almost on its knees.
Relations with Russia, much to the irritation of the Democrats, were not particularly friendly, but they were clearly understood mutually.
And in the case of China, all talk of China surpassing the United States ended approximately two days after President Trump was inaugurated, and we haven't heard it again until his successor came in.
They knew they were dealing with a man of strength that wouldn't pop off and dispatch vast forces to the ends of the earth.
in a way that was not clearly in the national interest of the United States.
But they knew that where the declared legitimate interest of America and its allies were involved, he would stand firm and the force that he could bring to the party would be irresistible.
So, I mean, he was a young man.
You mentioned that I wrote about Mr. Nixon and President Roosevelt also.
They were all deterrence presidents.
They all knew that America had to define its goals clearly, make sure they were defensible to American moral public opinion.
They were the national interest, they were the moral interest, and then they would be defended to the uttermost.
President Roosevelt's remark on the day after Pearl Harbor.
And that's the secret to peace.
Deterrence.
Civis pacem, para bellum, as the ancient Romans said.
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Ever forgetting Finland into NATO. - Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Did you ever think in our lifetime that would happen?
I didn't, because I, you know, I knew that during the Cold War, they sort of had their arrangement with the USSR, that they would be neutral, and then... Well, and the whole model of, you know, Finland-ization.
I mean, the whole model.
Right.
And then, After the cold war, I didn't see what the point would be for them to do it, but it only becomes something that they thought necessary or advisable because We gave Putin the wrong impression about trying to reclaim and rebuild the former USSR.
Yeah, it's incredible, the idea that we have the Finns inside the fold and then soon the Swedes.
And the Swedes astound me even more, if you remember Olaf Palme and so on.
Yes, oh my gosh, absolutely, on his bicycle.
Strange days we live in.
Disconcerting, but as Mr. Churchill said, Tense, but not unhopeful.
Alright, Eric, I'm going to tee up, oh sorry, I'm going to do the Israel read, then I'm going to tee up Cut 6, and then we're going to go to Lord Black's latest article.
And then we'll chat when the segment's done.
Sebastian, who was that guy you ran at the beginning of the last segment?
Mark Levin.
Oh, it was him!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was Mark Levin's Sunday show on Fox.
No, no, but I mean, before that, the guy who said he thought, he didn't know why people didn't, you know, conservative commentators didn't quote each other.
Oh, oh, oh, no, that's my producer, Jeff.
Oh I'm sorry, okay.
I ask on air his assistance and my team now and again.
Sorry, Jeff's been doing radio much longer than I have.
And I noticed that conservatives really don't quote each other or play cuts from each other.
And it's like, really, we should be in it together.
Yeah, maybe on air.
In writing we often do.
No, but not on air.
Yeah, I think that's right.
I don't know why.
I think it's just a competition at the end of the day.
I do, but it's really, you know, it's one team.
Yeah, but we're all in it together.
We're all on the same side.
Right, right.
I think half the people that hear a good soundbite then say it themselves.
Well, there's a lot of borrowing and stealing going on, that's for sure.
Do you want the phones open now?
Uh, where are we?
Hang on, what have we got here?
Lamb can't do it today, so we're open.
Who can't?
Lamb.
Oh, okay, yeah, sure.
It's also been said, conservatism, of course, is just a more individualistic ideology.
You know, obviously, liberalism is more about, you know, Of course.
Collectivism, so naturally breeds.
Yeah, no, that's true.
I mean, the left does nothing but repeat each other, but, you know, they're just a bunch of performing seals.
Yeah, it's truly a hive mind.
Yeah.
It really is.
When they use the same phrase on every TV show.
It's like last week with Bragg.
It was just the same bloody phrase on every show.
It was as if they had a script.
Did you read Victor's piece?
It was out on Real Clear today.
No, I haven't read it.
Play America.
It's brilliant.
I do recommend it.
On real clear?
Even by his high standards, it's very good.
The one he wrote last week.
That was brilliant too.
It was absolutely superb.
We went through it line by line on the show.
It was just amazing.
Yeah, I mean, I have a smaller space to write than he does, but I've tried to make the same points, but I'm not saying I made them as well as he did.
Standby.
His was masterful.
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So funny we're chatting in the break with the team with our esteemed regular guest.
Why conservatives don't quote each other at least not so much on radio shows.
I love it here.
If I hear something good from a brother I'm gonna play you the cut.
I'm gonna give them full credit.
And Lord Black has just done so in the break.
He said Victor Davis Hanson has written another barnstormer in real clear politics.
We'll find it.
I'll put it up on all my social media.
We discussed his last piece.
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Let's tee it up with a cut from somebody who allegedly was a Republican, worked in the Bush, the younger Bush's administration.
This is Nicole Wallace with her take on her erstwhile party.
Cut six.
You know, the corruption of the party that you and I were a part of is also a story that gets short shrifted.
We sanitize that too.
It's corrupt from the top to the bottom, from east to west.
Not one Republican condemned the Tennessee Republican majority for what they did.
Not one Republican who thought that bringing democracy to Iraq or Afghanistan would make our country safer, which was, I know it's unpopular, but that was the position of Mitch McConnell and every elected Republican.
Not one of them is interested in doing a single goddamn thing to protect democracy here in America.
So the threat to democracy in America, we are a republic by the way, Nicole, is from the right, from the GOP.
One of your concluding sentences in your latest piece is, now one of the two protagonists must win, the Democrats or the Republicans.
And for the sake of all the goals identified by President Trump's opponents, particularly the preservation of the Constitution and the integrity of the American political system, it is Donald Trump that must prevail.
How, how can we have just two so utterly diametrically opposed diagnoses of the situation?
Well, that, I admit, is a challenging question and it mystifies me.
But I think the answer is it's one of these things that didn't start where it is now.
And, you know, it's just escalated and developed the kind of momentum of its own.
But in a word, if I may, The fact that Trump...
astounded the world, and particularly the American political community, by defeating the bipartisan establishment, the kind of consensus, the Bush, Romney, McCain, with the Democrats, but Washington run entirely by Democrats, all the civil, everything, 95% of it as elections show, run by the Democrats, and the country moving slowly to the left,
Trump saw, and was almost the only prominent person who did, that there was a great deal of discontent.
Approximately the lower half of the population in income, irrespective of ethnic group or pigmentation, were dissatisfied and felt that the other half were getting more than their fair share.
And he tapped into that, and it so shocked the establishment That they have been prepared to do anything to stop and destroy him.
And so what we have now is everyone knows that they invented and corrupted the National Intelligence Agencies and the FBI and the Justice Department to promote the notion that Trump was colluding with a foreign power to rig the 2016 election.
We know they did it.
We know they knew it.
We know they signed the false affidavit supporting outrageous intrusions and telephone intercepts on the Trump campaign and Trump transition team.
We know that the first impeachment was completely spurious, that they went to unheard of length to deny the existence of any possible concern about the probity of the current president's family's finances, when in fact a grand jury had already had carriage of this subject for a year.
Yes.
They have now indicted him on what a moron with an IQ in single figures could see is a spurious torquing up and contortion of stale-dated demeanors to try and represent the former president and current leader of the opposition and leading in the polls.
as a felon.
And this is all unprecedented, and it is so monstrously unconstitutional that it is, in fact, precisely the threat to democracy that they claim, including from that airhead Nicole Wallace a minute ago, Trump is doing, that Trump represents.
They're claiming he's a menace to constitutional government, and, in fact, they have put the Constitution to the shredder in their sociopathic and psychotic attempt to destroy him.
Now we only have two minutes left, but in what you described and what President Trump ascertained and then represented to a lot of working-class Americans and led to his success, what is your estimate right now in percentage terms or in terms of fraction?
How much of the GOP, the Grand Old Party, now reflects that new America First mandate?
How much has it been transformed by his presidency?
I think 70-80%.
He's taken them out of the old proverbial country clubs.
The country clubs should still vote for him.
it's hard to judge, but I think 70 to 80 percent.
I mean, he's taken them out of the old proverbial country clubs.
Yes.
I mean, the country clubs should still vote for him.
You know, he's a low tax man, but he's taken the support from there and planted it soundly in the working class and the lower to middle class.
But also, I think those who don't like him in the Republican Party are almost all of them now of the view that they have to support him.
He has been attacked so illegally and outrageously, I think as the polls indicate, the Republican Party has rallied to him And it's also, as the polls are also starting to show, shaken loose a number of sensible Democrats.
As I've said on this program before, the two old guardrails of the system ultimately were, the courts will not overturn an apparent presidential decision, and you don't indict ex-presidents.
And when the Democrats ran through that guardrail last week, they were asking for trouble and they're going to get it.
It's incredible to think that was just a week ago.
Oh my gosh, how incredible.
No longer the club solely of the country club set, the drivers of Mercedes and BMW.
I tend to agree.
It has been changed for the good.
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I'm not even going to use his former rank.
He's a little bit miffed about these secret documents that were leaked on social media about what's going on in Ukraine.
And you can see his Stalinist tendencies just crept out.
Cut eight.
Again, without confirming the validity of the documents, this is information that has no business in the public domain.
It has no business, if you don't mind me saying, on the front pages of newspapers or on television.
It is not intended for public consumption, and it should not be out there.
Hey, Eric, should I do that every sentence?
Should I do that like he does on the podium?
Should I do that every day?
It clearly, you know, emphasizes the importance of what you're saying.
If you're not pounding the desk with every word, people won't understand how serious you are.
Right, and I can't be lying.
And I just love, did you hear the logic?
Did you hear the logic of what he said?
Without confirming the validity, please don't publish it!
Meaning it's true, you cretin.
Why would you say, hey, I'm not going to say it's true.
But please don't publish it!
God, he's such a disgusting.
What a bag of filth.
Human filth you are.
Alright, let's go to your cause.
Waiting so patiently in Los Angeles.
Didn't we have him on yesterday, Jeff?
Is he allowed to come twice in two days?
I apologize, God.
He was on, that naughty, naughty man.
Brent from Los Angeles.
Yeah, I apologize, godly child protector Gorka.
But I just needed to respond to your anti-semitic democrat caller who demonically compared circumcision to... Yeah, what was that about?
So transgenderism removes a boy's penis and fills him full of estrogen.
If you talk about a girl quote-unquote transitioning, which is impossible, you remove Fully functioning, healthy breasts, and you create a fake penis that will never ever function properly.
But I guess, Brent, that's exactly the same as circumcision!
Well, see, they're full of nothing but lies.
And circumcision, it has been proven medically healthy and holy for 3,000 years.
Well, God knew what he was doing, right?
When you're in the middle of the desert, it might help you out a little bit.
Yes, and transmutilation has been proven medically horrific and hateful, like the medicine of Joseph Mengele and Tony Fauci.
And I'm thinking, during Easter and Passover, evil Democrats are inexcusably assisted by Christians and Jews who unwittingly are speaking in their language of Luciferian lies.
And we have to be honest and use true and moral words, such as trans-Satanism or trans-sociopathy.
I like that.
I like that trans sadism.
But Brent, don't you think that caller thought he was so clever by talking about circumcision?
He thinks he's such a clever boy.
The devil is like that.
The devil is very clever.
And we have to also say, for the few authentically lost and abused who suffer from a transdelusional psychiatric disorder, we must love them and care for them and protect them from the demonic doctors who only lead to their destruction.
Yeah, I got into a DM.
A direct message battle last night for far too long with some crazy lib who was trying to send me his lecture notes from college about how transgenderism is real and blah blah blah XXY chromosomes and I said dude You can send me all the slides from your left-wing professor, but the fact is there is no mental condition.
Body dysmorphia is in the DSM.
It is a mental condition.
There is no mental condition that we quote-unquote affirm.
We don't tell 70-pound anorexics to keep vomiting because they're fat.
Why do we, because they think they're fat, we shouldn't be doing that with these people who in a large proportion are autistic and who are being targeted by absolutely demonic adults who are separating them from their children.
It is like sexual predators.
God bless you Brent!
We'll let him call in maybe one more time this week.
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Mic's on, Alex.
Okay.
Okay.
Where is it?
I can't find my...
Oh, I just need a title for black.
Hmm...
Hmm...
Um... Black.
Something about the weakness of the millies and whatnot.
Tie to China.
China wants war, but a different kind of war.
Hmm.
What does it even look like if you have simultaneously war in Ukraine and Taiwan?
What does it look like?
I mean, like, isn't that basically, like, the World Wars kind of got started because before we knew it, it was, like, on multiple fronts.
We're just suddenly, like, major wars with catastrophic implications happening at the same time.
Well, all through the, after the Gulf War, all defense planning in America was that we should be able to fight two major theater wars.
So that's always been the plan, that two different parts of the world, we should be able to fight two wars, like Europe and the Middle East at the same time.
So that's nothing new.
The problem is now we have a woke military.
All right, I've got to read some break.
Do we have a serious breaking news liner?
With breaking news here, Sebastian Gorka?
I know it's somewhere.
Can you come in with that, Alex?
Yes.
Thanks.
One minute.
Oh, and then for the E block, I need the what is best in life from Conan.
I think I have the video cut of that, let me check.
Good.
What is best in life?
Ah, you're sure of that, right?
Ah, Man Emilius tweeted it today.
Alright.
Today is the 11th of April.
You'll need that for the E block.
Yes.
Yes.
I've got it right here.
By Jove, I think she's God yet.
Thank you.
With breaking news, here's Sebastian Gorka.
This is just down the flipping road.
One of our good friends and guests has sent me breaking news.
Robbery suspect barricaded inside Arlington Bank with hostages.
This was just less than an hour ago.
An armed robbery was reported at a bank in the Clarendon area Tuesday afternoon, according to Arlington County Police Department.
An armed robbery was reported Tuesday afternoon around 3.20.
Police said they are investigating an armed robbery in the 3100 block of Washington Boulevard in Arlington near the intersection with Wilson Boulevard.
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Alright guys.
You need to be serious about your responsibilities in life as a man.
As the head of your household.
And you have to make sure that every adult and everyone who is capable of safely using a firearm
is capable of doing so if they have the motive skills that you know ninety five percent of human beings do and if they have the the spiritual fortitude to use force when necessary to save innocent lives every single one of them needs to be trained my children have been taught to shoot from the moment they could safely hold a twenty-two and shoot with it accurately
My son built his own AR-15 from parts we bought at the gun show at home at the age of 15.
I learned how to shoot in the military, but before I learned to shoot in the military, my father trained me.
As a former political prisoner in a communist prison, I was told in the UK before I came to America, before I lived with the Second Amendment as a civil right, That you, you, you are the final guarantor of your freedom.
And that means that you should also be prepared to use deadly force when your life or the life of your loved ones is threatened.
You heard our interview earlier today.
More than 90% of mass shootings occur in so-called gun-free zones.
Schools, shopping malls, office blocks, Just imagine any one of those instances, even in yesterday's attack in Louisville.
It took three minutes for the police to arrive.
God bless the police and God bless that officer, Officer Wilt, who's in the ICU with a gunshot to the head, who had only been on the force for 10 days.
But in three minutes, you can kill five people and shoot another eight.
What if one person in that bank, one person in that meeting room, in that conference room, had been licensed and trained to carry a weapon?
Before that individual pulled his rifle out of whatever concealment duffel bag he had, before he could shoulder that weapon, if that individual were close enough and proficient enough, that threat would have been neutralized and he would have been sent to hell instantly.
And lives, multiple lives, would have been saved.
And Officer Wilt wouldn't be on a respirator now, clinging for life as brave doctors attend to his brain injury from that rifle round to the cranium.
This is the most important thing you can do outside of instilling The God-fearing values I know you hold because you listen to this show into your children.
The most important thing you can do is to be prepared to protect the vulnerable.
My son said to me recently and he's in his twenties now and it kind of the depth of his wisdom just so impresses me every time we have these long discussions.
He said to me one of the most useful things you taught me dad is boundaries.
And when force is justified, and when force isn't justified.
That's why, you know, roughhousing is important.
That's why allowing boys to be boys is utterly essential.
Because you have to be clear when you're having fun, when you're wrestling on the ground with your kids, and when force is inappropriate.
When you're not allowed to use force against a girl or a woman.
And when force is utterly justified.
Scariest moment in my life was when I saw my father react to somebody who threatened the safety of my mother and myself as a young boy.
It was like a light switch was flicked.
And my dad, who was a happy-go-lucky individual, always wicked sense of humor, a twinkle in his eye, great bon vivant, he became a warrior.
Within microseconds, he switched.
He became a bear.
He became a berserker.
He became a knight who was going to protect me, a child, and my mother from the threat we faced.
That's your job!
Right now, as you're listening, take a piece of paper and write down these words.
I will protect my family.
I will train to be able to protect my family.
I will teach my family, my loved ones, how to protect myself.
Because evil exists and walks the earth.
And within minutes Of this studio, right now, there is a hostage situation in a bank that could have been ended very quickly by somebody like me who was in the bank, licensed to carry, saw the threat, engaged and killed the person who was threatening innocent men and women.
Take your responsibilities seriously.
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Write it down now.
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I will train to be able to protect my family.
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And then I'm going to do first the good guy with a gun and then the Trump flag.
Good guy with gun, and then, okay, so coming with Conan.
Yep.
And then the- And then I'll do the, I'll do the, the, the car, firearms.
And the special gun, the Trump one gun.
Yep, and then I'll take Randy's call.
That guy was arrested, by the way.
Okay, good.
Guess who had it first.
Who?
Daily Mail.
Oh my god!
How?
How?
They use AI for the breaking news.
They have to.
It's called, yeah.
Do you work for them, Alex?
I think he's right.
They're so quick.
It's called Data Miner.
It's a local bank robbery in Arlington.
That's insane.
It's called Data Miner.
Why don't you implement that here for subgorka.com?
I think it's like $15,000 for a subscription.
Wow.
Well, they can afford it.
He's 79 years old today, Milius.
Wow.
Anybody injured, Geoff?
Do you know?
I don't think so.
It didn't mention it.
Amanda says you should either watch the documentary about him as tribute or watch your favorite Milius movie tonight.
Thank you.
We won again!
This is good.
But what is best in life?
The open steppe.
Fleet horse.
Falcons at your wrist.
The wind in your hair.
Wrong!
Conan, what is best in life?
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of your women.
That is good.
That is good.
Why do we always play that cut?
Because we love it!
And we love John Milius!
And Eric, what's the special reason?
From Amanda Milius herself on Twitter, today is the birthday of, as she calls him, the OG, John Milius.
The OG.
General Milius, we salute you.
79 today.
Superb.
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Let's go to Randy Knoxville waiting patiently.
Line one.
Dr. Gorka.
Yeah.
Yes, sir.
Oh, by the way, the bank robber, latest update, has been arrested.
So God bless local Arlington law enforcement.
Sorry, carry on, my friend.
Oh, yes, sir.
Hey, I was just showing my wife her proper grip on our 1930s model Colt, the Woodsman.
Oh, a 22 caliber Woodsman?
That's a classic.
It's great.
It was her grandfather's.
It's a family heirloom.
Beautiful.
We were just looking through it.
She looks, and talk about beautiful, she looks beautiful holding it.
She's right there in the living room.
All right, you've got a minute.
What else do you want to talk about apart from the correct grip for your wife's Colt Woodsman 22 caliber semi-automatic?
Thanks, Dr. Gorka.
I'm a house painter.
You mean you work for a living?
Yes, sir.
I climb ladders and I do a lot of exterior when it's cold.
It's interior.
But I was up on a 40 foot ladder all this most of this week doing this architectural feature.
We've got this great lake in Tennessee here.
I find, over the years, I've been doing this as a tradesman.
You've got 30 seconds, Randy.
You've got to get to the punchline.
Yes, sir.
The liberals are the ones that look down their nose at guys like me.
Yes.
And they're the ones who will try to jam you at the end of the job, play games.
The conservatives are the ones that appreciate it and say, man, you did a good job, dude.
Wow, I'd hate to climb that 40-foot ladder.
I appreciate what you did.
Here, let me give you a gratuity as a matter of fact.
Yes.
How's your back from climbing all those ladders?
Man, I do my stretching and my exercise.
Is it good?
I'm going to be 59.
Is it good?
Is your back okay or can I send you some Relief Factor?
Absolutely.
All right, stay on the line Randy.
Big bag of Relief Factor going your way.
Next up, we're going to have fun making movies great again.
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She walks in a mine.
Impressive.
Most impressive.
See anything you people wouldn't believe.
You want to talk to God. - Let's go see him together.
Are you sure it's Victor Maitland you want?
Oh yes, Victor Maitland, the gray-haired gentleman, very dark-skinned, Capricorn.
Victor.
Um, well why don't you give me the message and I'll take it to him.
Okay, I guess I can do that.
Um, tell Victor that Ramon, the fella he met about a week ago, tell him that Ramon went to the clinic today and I found out that I have, um, Cripple Simplex 10.
And I think Victor should go check himself out with his physician to make sure everything is fine before things start falling off on the man.
Oh, perhaps you better tell him that.
Herbis Simplex!
Nobody wants Herbis Simplex 10!
Especially if you caught it from Ramone.
I think that's one of my favorite moments with so many to choose from from a movie chosen by my co-hosts.
We are here to make movies great again.
I'm Sebastian Gawker and we are joined as ever by Mr. Reagan.
Chris Coles!
Beverly Hills Cop!
OG!
Why did you pick this movie?
I love it!
Why did you pick this movie?
Let me just say, I think this may be my favorite movie that we've done so far.
And it's not because it's necessarily the best movie that we've done so far, but the reason is because I think it's the movie that I've seen the least often since I was a kid.
I think probably it's been the movie that the longest amount of time has passed since I've actually watched it, and I kind of forgot how good it was.
You know that it's a legend sort of intellectually in your head, right?
You know it's this legendary film.
But it doesn't have a sequel like, you know, Ghostbusters does recently.
You know, it hasn't been in the news like Back to the Future has recently.
You know, a lot of these films are kind of still in the public consciousness.
For whatever reason, Beverly Hills Cop seems to have faded into obscurity, and I'm not really sure why, but it really is a masterpiece.
It's fantastic.
This movie, although you look at these opening scenes in Detroit, yeah it's dated, you look at the vehicles, the cop cars, the cruisers, yeah this is a movie from 1984, but nevertheless, my word, I have to agree with you, this is just such a fun film to watch and of course It's the first movie that had Eddie Murphy in a title role.
Really, this is the one that propelled him to international stardom.
Yeah, he was in trading places before this.
He was in 48 hours before this.
But this was really... Okay, this may be a horrible thing to say, but I think this may be the pinnacle of Eddie Murphy ever in history.
And it's not to say that his later work wasn't phenomenal.
It was.
I mean, he was a very successful guy all of his life.
But this film, there's just something about this movie in particular, even better than the second one.
The second one's iconic with the, uh, with the jacket and everything like that.
But man, this movie is just so dang good.
And you are right to say that it is a bit dated, but I actually think that's a lot of its charm.
This movie came out in, what was it?
1984?
1984.
And, you know, that synthesized Axl F, Axl Foley music.
Harold Faltermeyer, the synthesizer.
Just, I mean, it's so iconic, and it creates this, I don't know, this sensibility, this mise-en-scene, as they say in the film world, film criticism world, that is just so perfectly 1984, and I think that it inspired a lot of the different films that we got in the 1980s.
It created a lot of the feel of what cinema became in the 1980s, because it was just so dang cool.
Yeah, and as with several of the movies we've already reviewed here on Making Movies Great Again, it's kind of a groundbreaking movie in and of itself, a kind of category buster.
And I don't know how much behind-the-scenes stuff you watched.
I watched a couple of behind-the-scenes making-ofs and then interviews years later with the principals.
And Murphy makes this interesting point that before this, Any cop movie, you know, whether it's Dirty Harry, whether it's The French Connection, the cops were serious, were doer.
This is where, and you see this with, you know, Taggart and with, you know, the Judge Reinhold character.
They're actually human beings.
They're real.
And also, they're fun.
You can imagine going out with these guys for a laugh, and it's not somebody who's going to instantly plug a bad guy full of holes a la Charles Bronson.
This is a new kind of funner cop movie.
Oh yeah, yeah.
And it's so much fun.
And in fact, I mean, we'll probably get to this later, but there was at one point another actor that was going to play Axel Foley.
There were multiple.
There were multiple other actors.
We will get to those in the latter half of the movie.
Um, let's talk about some of the other actors in the cast already because it's such a big cast.
Let's talk about, I, I love Ronnie Cox.
We've got Ronnie Cox is the Lieutenant.
We've got an amazing, amazing villain, Steven Burkoff, Judge Reinhold.
We've got John Ashton, uh, talk to us.
Oh my gosh.
Tiny, tiny piece, but I love this guy.
Paul Reiser is one of Axel F's cop buddies in Detroit.
I mean, like he begged, he begged to be in this movie and they gave him what about like six lines Yeah, at the very beginning, and he does a good job as a sort of like nebbish friend that, you know, doesn't want to get his buddy in trouble.
Let me read some of the movies from 1984, because this movie had some stiff competition that year.
We had Indiana Jones Temple of Doom, we had Ghostbusters, which we covered a couple weeks ago, Gremlins, Karate Kid, Red Dawn, which we've also covered, Terminator, Romancing the Stone, Footloose, Nightmare on Elm Street, 16 Candles, The Neverending Story, Splash, Revenge of the Nerds, Police Academy, The Last Starfighter, Star Trek III, and Conan the Destroyer.
And that's not all of the hit movies that year. - That's all 1984. - That's all 1984, and that's not even all of them.
I didn't write down all of them because there's so many.
I didn't want to waste the entire episode just reading off the names of movies from 1984.
This year was so epic, and I think really set the tone for what movies would be for the rest of the time.
And this movie in particular, really, at the end of the day, it all comes down to Eddie Murphy.
If it weren't for Eddie Murphy, I don't know how successful this film would have been.
Eddie Murphy really is the heart and soul and the cool and everything that this film is.
It's resting on Eddie Murphy's shoulders, I think.
I think, you know...
But also, if you watch the interviews of the actors, one of the key things about this, apparently Breast, the guy who, Martin Breast, the director, he is a multi-multi, you know, he takes, you know, dozens of takes.
He's one of these people that takes dozens of takes.
One of the key things he did was improv.
And it wasn't just Eddie.
It was, you know, the principles were improv-ing, right?
Whether it's Taggart or Willie, these guys were just zinging off each other And it worked, right?
I mean, yeah, you know, I'm probably overstating the case that it was it was purely Eddie Murphy.
I'm just thinking like the the feeling that we get from the film is very much influenced by who Eddie Murphy is.
You're probably right because every every performance is so good.
Everybody is so funny.
I think one of the first moments that I really laughed out loud whilst watching this back He's just been arrested.
He's looking around the cop car that he's been arrested in.
He's got these two Ken dolls driving him to the police station.
And he looks around the cop car and he goes, this is the cleanest cop car I have ever been in.
He's like, this is cleaner than my apartment.
And I just start laughing out loud, and I'm pretty sure that must have been improv, because the way he's saying it, it doesn't sound scripted to me, you know?
It sounds improvised.
And so, I don't know how much of the script was improvised, but it definitely worked, whatever they were doing.
If you watch the scene after the strip club, And you see Eddie talk about, you've got, these aren't cops, these are super cops, they need capes.
You see Ashton, Ashton actually bends his head down and grabs his mouth because he's gonna corpse through the whole thing.
He couldn't look at the camera because that was improv and Murphy was making it up and he was about to burst.
In fact the director ruined so many takes because he's on the jib and he's laughing and he's jiggling the camera up and down.
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All right, you know which cut, Eric.
You know, this is the cleanest and nicest police car I've ever been in in my life. .
This thing's nicer than my apartment.
You mentioned it, and of course we have it ready.
A little bit of background information.
The director, the casting chief as well, said we want to have all the cops that he interacts with in LA look like male models, you know, with the bleached, you know, blonde hair.
And all the ones in Detroit, we want to have Look like real grungy Detroit cops, which is interesting because the guy who chews him out, the guy who plays his lieutenant, who wants to fire him, especially after the beginning.
Did you look into who that individual was, Chris?
I've seen him in other films, I don't know who he is now.
Yeah, he played in a couple of other films, but when he was asked, so basically the directors, the scouting crew, went to Detroit, because it was filmed in Detroit and LA, and they went to the police department, to one of the headquarters in Detroit, and they saw this guy in the distance called Gil Hill.
Gil Hill, who plays Axel F's boss, was the chief of homicide in the Detroit movie.
No!
Oh yeah!
I had no idea!
And somehow, I have no idea how, he got permission for this mini cameo while he's the chief of homicide.
That's amazing.
He does two more movies and then runs for mayor of Detroit.
Wow.
Wow.
Did he win?
He did not.
He was, he was, he was a Democrat beaten by another Democrat.
But I mean, these are the kinds of things I'm not sure you'd see in Hollywood today.
No, I don't.
I mean, maybe sometimes that that is a pretty good story.
Maybe somebody like Sylvester Stallone was making a movie.
He might do something like that, but that's pretty intense.
You know, let me talk for a second about Race.
About the racial aspect of this film.
Yes.
Because when I was a little boy, I was probably, I don't know how old I was, I was four when this movie came out.
I probably saw it when I was six or seven or something like that.
And it never occurred to me, I never really thought about the fact that Eddie Murphy's black.
Now they had considered bringing in a lot of different actors.
And their first choice for Axel Foley was not necessarily a black actor.
But they bring in this black actor, they set it in Detroit, they bring in a black chief, whatever.
And I think that says a lot about the 1980s versus today.
If they made a show today, and they brought in black actors for the main character, and especially if the script clearly wasn't written for a black actor, I would be annoyed by that.
And the reason I would be annoyed by that is because I know why they did it.
They would have done it for woke virtue signaling points with, you know, a leftist audience with their leftist friends so they could go to their cocktail parties and say how woke they are and how they hire such diverse crew and things like that.
In the 1980s they didn't do it for that reason.
In the 1980s they brought in Eddie Murphy because Eddie Murphy was the best guy for the job and it totally reads through into the film.
You don't think about that fact at all and I never even thought about that until watching it back this time and just thinking about the contrast between how I perceived films in the 80s and how I perceived films now.
Now they fit they they cast things because of Demographics?
Back then, they'd cast things because it was the best guy for the job.
Yeah.
Today, if there was, you know, a black casting decision or a black lead, then it would be what?
It would be tokenism.
It would be for political reasons back then.
And look, look at the backstory.
So here we have the backstory.
Let's talk about some of the other people who were... This script was around Hollywood for about seven years before it was actually greenlit.
And let's talk about some of the choices of who was going to play Axel F. Go ahead, Chris.
Okay, well, the biggest one was, of course, the great Sylvester Stallone.
Yes!
He was going to play Axelot, and he wanted to make this movie into something far more serious.
Uh, and I mean, obviously everybody involved in the project was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
This is not a serious, you know, this is a comedy.
This is not going to be like a dangerous film.
You got to have this cute little wink with the blonde here in the car.
You know what I mean?
You have to, everything has to have a wink to it.
Everything has to be a bit of fun.
Yes.
No, but you know what?
I think this is my theory.
I think that Sylvester Sloan looked back on this film and said he missed out on something.
I think in his mind he thought he missed out on something, not doing the comedic version.
Because he did end up doing the serious version of Beverly Hills Cop, which was called Cobra.
He made his own film called Cobra.
Right.
So this is... Go ahead.
Well, I think that he felt like he missed out on doing the comedic Beverly Hills Cop version, and he realized it was a great film, so then he went ahead and he did a film called Demolition Man, which was a much lighter film, but very similar to Beverly Hills Cop when you think about it.
A movie which, if you watch it now...
has predicted a lot of the things that we now see as wokeness if you have if you don't remember demolition man if you thought it was you know wasn't funny watch it now and you will think that it was the script was written by nostradamus so here here's the development history of this movie so uh the people they consider didn't offer it to but they considered for axel foley al pacino and james khan They offered it to Mickey Rourke.
They paid him $400,000 not to do any movies and keep him on ice.
That expired and he said, guys, I'm going to keep your money, but goodbye.
Then they offered it to Harrison Ford.
He refused.
Harrison Ford.
And along comes Stallone.
And Stallone Well, like he does with many things.
He just rewrote the whole script.
He wanted to quadruple the budget.
The end scene would have been him driving, playing chicken in a Maserati with an 18-wheeler.
They said, we've only got 12 million dollars.
We can't make this movie.
And they finally placated him and they said, okay, we'll make a movie where you're like, you know, firing machine guns and cleaning it, you know, the city up.
But it's going to be a different movie.
That was Cobra.
I think we have the poster of Cobra.
A very different movie, not with a lot of humor in it.
And then they pick this guy.
But as you said, Chris, this wasn't a political decision.
This wasn't because he was black.
It's because they wanted somebody who was funny, who could play this, and also could play off, you know, the characters of the two cops in LA, in Beverly Hills, who are supposed to be, you know, babysitting him.
And that was, that was, you know, a witty repartee.
It was a back and forth.
You couldn't have, you couldn't have Taggart and Willie playing off Uh, Stallone?
It just wouldn't have worked, would it?
I can't imagine it.
I mean, I suppose you could.
I can't, I can't imagine it.
And you know what's really great about this?
You're talking about how Demolition Man kind of is, almost predicts what the world we live in today.
This film has a little bit of that as well.
I feel like this film is sort of inadvertently anti-woke.
You know, he goes to the police station, the Beverly Hills police station, after having been arrested.
And Taggart, you know, punches him in the stomach.
They get into this tussle, punches him in the stomach.
This sort of rough cop thing that you would expect to see in like the 1970s cop stuff.
Cop TV shows, cop movies.
And the captain comes out and he says to Eddie Murphy, would you like to press charges against this man?
And Eddie Murphy's like, what the heck are you even talking about, right?
And you can kind of get the sense that he's like, we do everything by the book here in Beverly Hills.
And you get the sense that they've gone too far with this idea of doing everything by the book and trying to protect the criminal.
And it wasn't necessarily because they wanted to protect the criminal in this particular film.
It was because they wanted to do everything perfectly by the book.
But nowadays you have real prosecutors in real life that will go easier on a suspect than on a cop, on the villain rather than the hero.
And it's not because they're trying to do things by the book.
It's because they have this bizarre sympathy for criminals now, especially like criminals of color because of racial equity or social justice or whatever they want to call it.
And so this film I think is really a beautifully anti-woke film, but I don't think necessarily on purpose, just sort of incidentally so.
And a film that, of course, I think you'll agree could not be made today, just the clip of Ramon, the Ramon scene we opened with.
Would not be made today.
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All right, let's come in with ordering pizza.
All right.
I thought you guys forgot I was done.
I was getting hungry.
I've never been to a cell that had a phone in it.
Can I stay for a while because I ordered some pizza?
Somebody eat it.
I'm sorry.
It's just like this.
A seemingly throwaway line.
But for me, that's comic genius.
That he says, I've never seen a prison cell with a pizza.
Can I stay here?
Because I've or with a telephone.
Can I stay here?
Because I've ordered pizza.
I mean, that's the genius of Eddie Murphy.
Yeah, and that really feels like it was an improvised moment.
And especially when he's walking away from the cop and he says, eh, it's alright, somebody eat it.
You know?
You gotta have headphones on to get that, you know?
It's almost like he throws the line away.
And this whole Serge thing... Oh my gosh!
Talk to me about Serge with his twist of lemon.
So this guy becomes this character, Balky, I think his name is, on a TV show here in America, became a huge hit.
I think, I don't remember what it was called, but it was a big hit.
But this guy's, whatever it is, flamboyantly gay Beverly Hills guy.
In the 1980s, it was such a spot-on impression of the kind of guy that you would imagine would work at an art gallery in Beverly Hills.
You didn't really know this guy in real life, but he did it so brilliantly, you thought, okay, yes, definitely this is that guy.
Whoever that guy is in Beverly Hills, this is him.
And he's like, "How much is this?" And he says, "Oh, it's $130,000 or whatever, this piece of art." And he says, "Get out of here." And he goes, "No, I will not get out of here.
I am serious." And I sold it yesterday.
Yeah, and I sold it yesterday.
And the way he just presents that, I don't, I've never seen anybody do such a ridiculous character so authentically and so perfect.
I mean, it's a perfect performance.
And there's a lot of that in this film.
And like you said, they couldn't do it today because this is a little bit of a send-up of the homosexual of the 1980s.
And you can't make fun of the gays now.
You couldn't make fun of a trans character now, but in the 1980s you could.
And it's really funny.
It's really great.
Well, let's give credit to him.
This is the comedian Bronson Pinchot, or Pinchot, who was in several movies.
He was in Risky Business, After Hours, but I think the sitcom you're referring to is Perfect Strangers that he was in for many, many years.
And he really wanted to do this part.
And then he went in to read for it, and he just did this outrageous accent, and he said, I wanted to do that classic Beverly Hills accent, where you don't know whether the guy's Israeli or French, you have no idea where he's coming from, but he's a flamer, and the director fell off the chair.
He was sitting on a sofa, and he just doubled over, listening to this accent, and said, OK, sold.
And the sad thing is, there was another character actor, In the store, there were two people meant to be in that scene, and the director says to the other guy, I'm sorry, Bronson's just gonna eat the scenery here, so we're just gonna have to, like, let you go.
That's brilliant directing, you know, just being able to figure out, this guy's a star, this guy's going to steal the scene no matter who's in it.
I better just, like, put the spotlight on him and let him do his thing.
That is brilliant.
And actually, the interplay between Eddie Murphy and him is just like, it's very naturalistic.
You feel like there's a cop from Detroit talking to a Beverly Hills art dealer, you know what I mean?
All right, talk to me about, um, the Laurel and Hardy.
They're actually modeled on Laurel and Hardy, or an old bickering couple.
Taggart and Rosewood are essential to this, an essential part of this movie, aren't they, Chris?
Yeah, yeah, and you know, Rosewood is great because, you know, what's his name?
Judge?
Judge Reinhold is his name?
My buddy and I were talking about this film the other night and he called him Justice Reinhold.
And I'm like, oh, he's got a promotion.
Yeah, Judge Reinhold.
Judge Reinhold is...
So, he's so gentle, like the way he speaks is so gentle, right?
He's perfect for what this is supposed to be, which is a Beverly Hills cop who's like a Beverly Hills detective, and he's too nice.
He's too nice of a guy.
He plays by the rules too closely, and therefore, it inhibits his ability to actually do his job.
Taggart is a kind of old-school cop, but he also is so hell-bent on following the rules exactly that it inhibits his ability to do the job.
And what's kind of funny about this movie, I don't know if it's a good thing, but by the end of the film, even the chief, and this is almost like the moral of the story, right?
The chief, or not, he's not the chief, he's the whatever.
Lieutenant.
Second lieutenant.
the lieutenant actually lies to the chief to his face in front of all the guys and you can see for the first time this lieutenant has loosened up he's unbuttoned one of his buttons and he's strayed slightly from the path of doing everything exactly by the book because at the end of the day and and i say this about christianity as well as a good christian man You can't always follow the rules.
Occasionally you have to break the rules.
I'm not necessarily advocating people go out and break the law or anything like that.
But if the rules are actually immoral, sometimes you have to step away from the rules and do what's right, as opposed to what the rules tell you to do.
And that's sort of the moral of this film.
And I think it's incredibly effective.
You have this guy coming in from Detroit.
He's not necessarily a rule follower.
He's a troublemaker.
Nobody likes him.
And then he wins everybody over at the end.
In fact, it's kind of a Pollyanna story.
And the fact is that, as you just illustrated, So many characters have actually arcs.
It's not just the lead.
You know, Taggart and Rosewood have arcs.
The lieutenant, Lieutenant Bogomil, has an arc as well, which is, at the end, he's going to be a little bit more loosey-goosey in the interests of justice.
So, you know, just the fact that little supporting actors, multiple ones, have arcs tells you the genius here.
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Let's talk about Stephen Birkhoff.
Now, Stephen Birkhoff is a British actor.
For some reason, Hollywood loves people with a British accent when it comes to playing villains.
I have many, many times been offered by those who don't have the power to do so to be the next Bond villain.
Miss Broccoli, I'm available.
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But Stephen Birkhoff, who kind of is known for having invented a very aggressive style of theatre in the UK.
It's called actually, colloquially, In Your Face Theatre.
A bit of a Brechtian kind of guy.
He ends up in Hollywood, he did this, then he was the evil Soviet commander in Rambo 2.
Him and his henchmen, I tell ya, pretty good casting, don't you think?
Especially the henchman who kills Axel's buddy in Detroit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mike Ehrmantraut from Breaking Bad.
I don't know if you watch Breaking Bad.
I consider it one of the greatest shows ever made.
Michael Ehrmantraut, one of the scariest henchmen.
Seriously?
Well, he's not really a henchman in Breaking Bad, but he's this, I don't know, he's like a hitman or something.
I mean, we get his backstory later in Better Call Saul, but In this show, he's a very young man, but he still looks pretty dang old.
I don't know how he managed to do that, but yeah, he has this sort of gravitas to him.
And then your guy, whose name fails me... Uh, Burkoff.
Stephen Burkoff.
Burkoff.
Stephen Burkoff.
I mean, as soon as you see him in this movie, and this is pretty early on in the film, Uh Axel Foley is a good detective and he just he knows I gotta get right in this guy's face I gotta shake things up I gotta I gotta introduce myself and let him know I'm on his on his tail here and looking into him and you get a sense of this guy and he has got the visage The Visage, I don't know what the word is, how to pronounce that.
He seems very much to me like a Bond villain.
And actually he was in a Bond movie.
He was?
Who was he?
Yeah, yeah, he played the, again, evil Soviet officer against Roger Moore's Octopussy.
He's the guy that smuggles the nuclear bomb into the circus in Berlin.
So he, you know, he even did a Bond movie as a villain.
Maybe that's why I remember him as a Bond villain.
He seems very Bond villain-y.
Like, he's got, he's definitely has that presence where you think, this guy's scary.
And this moment we're watching right now, Axel Foley throw Mike Ehrmantraut over a table.
Into the buffet?
Into the buffet, yeah.
And he's like covered in cake and stuff and he looks absolutely ridiculous.
But I mean, despite that looking ridiculous, you're kind of scared of him still.
Because at the very beginning of this film, he walks into Axel Foley's apartment building, he knocks out Axel, and he just shoots his buddy in the head.
Just shoots him right in the head.
And it is a kind of a brutal scene.
It's a pretty vicious scene.
And you think, so for the whole film, and it's brilliant to do that at the beginning, because throughout the rest of the film, you really think Axel Foley's in trouble.
Like, this guy could be killed any minute now.
Despite the jokes, despite the cool hit music, you think, this is a serious situation.
And in the 80s, they were very good about that.
When I watched Karate Kid as a child, Even though it was just high school bullies, I genuinely felt like these bullies were going to kill Daniel-san if they ever caught him.
And they had this thing in the 1980s, even if it was like a high school movie, You really had to feel like the hero was risking his life with everything that he did.
And they really sell it here with Axel.
You really think that his life is in danger the whole film.
Which I have to say, I'm not a writer.
You're a writer, an actor.
I think it's really remarkable I wouldn't even know where to begin how to combine comedy and and you know tense murder detective storyline which is what it is I mean that that murder at the beginning that's like that could be straight out of Breaking Bad and then the rest of the movie you've got funny things interspliced with serious things it's a very fine line but they work it they they walk it beautifully
Yeah, and I'm not really sure why they can't seem to do that stuff anymore these days.
My sense is that they really have just decided that they're going to tailor everything that they're doing to this very small percentage of the population, which is this very woke radical left audience where they say, okay, you know, we've got to have, we've got to be very sensitive to the trans community.
We've got to be very sensitive to the gay community.
We've got to be very sensitive to the gender non-binary community, whatever that is.
And they, they have failed to really create the kind of sense of adventure, you know, in the real world, there are certain things in the real world that are intimidating, frightening, concerning, whatever it is.
And you can, or, or thrilling or funny or whatever.
If you don't recognize the real world for what it is, if you live in some kind of fantasy bubble that isn't actually in Congress with what the real world actually is, you're never going to be able to write something funny.
You're never going to be able to write something scary.
You're never going to be able to write something intense, because everybody's going to watch and say, that doesn't make sense.
And in the 1980s, they had a real good sense of what reality was.
They were very down to earth, very practical, pragmatic.
Today, I think their heads are up in the sky and they're just trying to, you know, work out how to virtue signal how much they care about, you know, trans rights or something.
And the whole movie falls apart because of that.
And he used the phrase, in Congress with...
Correctly.
Correctly.
I'm impressed.
That's why he's Mr. Reagan.
Let's, um, talking of balancing the comedy, I love the scene.
I was obsessed with this as a kid.
Can you really stop a car by shoving a banana up the tailpipe?
Let's show the photograph of the man who is known, and you can actually, don't ask me how I know, let's show a photograph of the man who is known in the credits as Banana Man!
Because, did you recognize who the Banana Man is, Chris?
Oh, this is a Wayans brother, yeah?
Yeah!
Damon Wayans!
This has got to be the first part he ever did.
Again, a piece of script writing I don't think you'd get away with now today because it's a little bit on the nose when it comes to his imputed sexuality.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, there were three moments, I think, in this movie where they do a little bit of a send-up of, like, homosexuality.
It's so good here.
The Wayne's character, also, just excellent.
Very, very funny.
And the banana thing.
You know, I seem to vaguely remember in the 80s, there was a kind of A slew of these mischievous crimes where people would shove bananas up tailpipes.
And I think it was because of this movie.
This movie, unfortunately, caused a lot of people's engines a lot of trouble because kids would push bananas up tailpipes.
And I remember as a kid, that was like a big deal.
I remember people all talking about it after seeing this movie, even though I was too young to really know what was going on.
I do remember that.
And it's amazing to me.
Like today, I've talked about this in previous episodes.
Today, you just don't have the cultural impact from a film like this.
I think the closest thing recently would be something like Squid Game.
But all you can say about Squid Game is that everybody watched it, right?
Everybody went, oh, Squid Game is a great show on Netflix.
Everybody's got to see it.
So everybody went and saw Squid Game, and then everybody kind of moved on to their regular life or on to the next thing.
This movie had such a cultural impact.
It was everywhere.
You'd watch the music videos for the three songs that were big songs from this movie on MTV.
You'd listen to them on the radio.
There was promotional tie-ins with all kinds of products.
You'd wear the t-shirt.
I mean, the cultural impact of Beverly Hills Cop cannot be overstated.
It just took the country.
Almost in the same way that Ghostbusters did.
I think this may have beaten Ghostbusters, at least in the domestic box office.
Well, yeah, we'll talk about its amazing success after release in a moment.
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Comedy in the midst of, you know, Uzis being fired fully automatic.
The closing 20 minutes at Victor Maitland's house is Fabulous!
It's action, it's funny, it's also hilarity.
They improv'd Taggart being unable to climb the wall as Rosewood is trying to give him a leg up.
I mean, just absolutely hilarious.
At this point, I want to do what I do usually, which is nerd out on the guns here.
We'll show Eddie Murphy with a gun I have been in love with.
There you go, the Browning Hi-Power, a classic.
uh invented issued 1935 i used it in the british army that's where i became familiar with it you can see me without my beard that's me with the browning high power today i love the gun today an absolute classic and i got to cut my teeth on it in the british army many many moons ago yes that is indeed me uh if you are into firearms you could check out the browning high power uh chris what a brilliant finale oh yeah yeah yeah and that and
And those little jokes, you know what's actually kind of a shame?
Whenever I review these movies and talk to you about these movies, I always think, how can a person today enjoy this film?
Like, how much will they enjoy this film?
Right?
And when we started our rating system last week, I told you that was basically my criteria of how I'm going to rate it.
I'm not going to rate it how much I enjoy it, I'm going to rate it how much I think a person today, not having seen this film or being too familiar with 80s films, will be able to enjoy it.
And one of the things that I think is a bit of a shame is that there are certain jokes that have kind of become cliche, but that you don't realize that at the time they were quite innovative.
And the audience would have just burst out laughing at, uh, if you do that again, I'll shoot you myself.
Like everybody in the theater would have just died.
Yeah.
At the time.
But that joke has kind of been overdone now.
Yes.
Like, everybody went, oh, I'm gonna copy that.
That's genius.
Like, I would put a joke like that in a movie that I would write today to, you know, as a kind of a quick gag.
As a callback.
As a callback.
Yeah.
Or a little, just a little joke.
Right.
Just to throw in.
And nobody would get that it came from Beverly Hills Cop because people just don't remember.
And then if they see Beverly Hills Cop, they'd think, oh, that's kind of a stale joke maybe.
But I just loved seeing that again, and a lot of the jokes in this film may- it's hard for me to be able to judge, but I still think that it works.
Just because maybe the delivery is so good, and the actors are so good, despite the fact that it may be an overplayed joke, it's still very funny.
I mean, this scene!
Look at this scene!
This is hilarious!
Just these guys trying to climb over the wall, it's just cut by- this fat guy's balancing- Because they're serious cops!
They're the serious ones.
That's why that works.
Yes!
They're the serious ones.
That's why that works so well.
All right.
We wanted to talk about the success.
$13 million to make.
I mean, literally nothing.
$13 million to make.
And I think Eddie's slice of that was $3 million.
Grossed $234 million.
$234 million.
Number one at the box office for 13 weeks.
R-rated movie.
Third in history only to The Godfather and The Exorcist.
Not bad for 13 million, right?
Yeah, and I think it was the biggest selling movie in the United States that year.
It was only because of international sales that I think that Ghostbusters beat it.
You wanted to talk a little bit about the ending.
This is, you know, it's an interesting ending because it's not really like a twist or anything like that.
It's a very straightforward progression.
They get into this mansion.
They have the shootout.
They kill a few guys that are shooting at them, obviously.
And then he's able to kill this Maitland guy.
And what's great is, I think his boss, the lieutenant, ends up showing up, right?
Bogomil and Eddie Murphy kill Maitland at the same time.
That's it.
Yeah, that's it.
And it's actually a really beautiful moment, because it's the moment when the guy that I suppose hates him the most, because he's the most straight-laced guy on the entire force, he's the guy that enforces all that straight-laced stuff.
Uh, and Eddie Murphy, who's this sort of thorn in his side the whole time, they both together take the guy out, and then at the very end, when Eddie Murphy's going to be in big trouble, they're all probably going to lose their jobs because they did not do anything by the book here, uh, the lieutenant goes ahead and, as I said before, he makes up this wild story.
Cockamamie story.
Yeah, to just to get them all out of this, and he tells the chief, and the chief looks at him, of course he doesn't buy it, and then he looks at He looks at one of his other guys and he says, OK, I know this guy will tell me the truth.
And he says, OK, what's the real story?
And he says, that's the real story, boss.
And he goes, OK, I guess you guys all deserve a comment, you know, commendations then.
And they're like, yeah, I guess so.
And he just takes off, you know, and that's a great line.
It's subtle, but it's a great line from the really straight laced chief to Lieutenant Bogomil, who's been on Foley's ass for an hour and a half.
He says, the chief says, Is that what really happened, Lieutenant?
Yeah.
And Bogomil says, that's the report I'm filing.
I mean, just this beautiful kind of, maybe it didn't happen, but that's what you're getting from me, boss.
And by the way, guys, if you want to have fun, a little bit of very strange church history and heresy, look up the word Bogomil after the show, because it's a very unusual name that has a lot to do with Funny medieval shenanigans in Western Europe.
Alright, we have our rating system that we have deployed for the last three movies.
This week it is bananas.
Out of ten, how many bananas are you giving Beverly Hills Cop, Mr. Coles?
Well, as I said before, the way that I rate these is how well a modernize is gonna like it if they're not familiar with 80s films.
I gotta give this a 10 out of 10.
I think people are going to absolutely love this movie.
It's just so cool, it's so funny, and it's just really well done.
It's probably not, I wouldn't say it's my favorite 80s film, but I do think it's right up there.
I think people will absolutely love this movie.
Alright, I cannot agree with my friend because that's boring.
I will be grading, not in, he grades in terms of modern audience enjoying it.
I'm doing a more holistic The way I'm gonna grade from now on is grading out of 10 in comparison to the other great movies of the 80s.
So, based upon that scale for me, Dr. G, I'm gonna give this an 8.
Okay, okay, that's a reasonable score.
In comparison to the other great 80s movies, this is up there.
Well, we did establish, we did establish, we both think Raiders is 10 out of 10 for sure.
Totally.
So that's the sort of like empire level that we're going at.
Totally.
Yep.
This is a very different film.
This is a very different film.
It's a little bit hard to judge against some of the other great films of the 80s.
But in terms of enjoyment, I completely concur.
All right, are you ready for the next one, Mr. Coles?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I've been looking forward to this.
I want to know what we're doing next.
All right.
I decided this this morning with my son, who's a big fan of the novel, the series of novels upon which this big film was based.
You know me.
I'm a science fiction nerd.
You better get ready to sit.
I'm so curious.
I have no idea where we're going with this.
You better get ready to sit down for a good two plus hours because we're going to watch.
No comedy here, no bananas in tailpipes.
The OG Dune movie.
Are you ready?
Oh, okay!
Alright?
Dune!
Alright?
Dune, I will say, I will say, I actually have never seen this movie.
Are you j- Like, not even a- Not even a scene.
I've seen none of it.
I've never seen a bit of it.
You're going to come to this completely fresh.
I'm going to come as a geek who's watched it, I don't know, you know, 40 times already.
So next week, get ready guys, make time, get the popcorn ready, get the candies, the milk duds and everything else.
It's going to be dune.
All right.
God bless you, everyone.
I hope you had a superb, superb Easter weekend.
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