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March 22, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka
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Jim Hanson LIVE: The Rise of the Warlords
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And the reason Seb is introducing his special guest host, Jim Hansen, is because he's down at Fort Bragg, at my old stomping grounds, at the United States Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School.
And you know what that means.
He's dropping some knowledge, which is good.
They can use it.
Well look, there's a lot going on.
I was reliably informed that Donald Trump was going to be perp-walked, frog-marched, shackled, and thrown into Rikers prison because of his heinous crimes against the Republic.
And I'm waiting for the footage of that.
Hold on a second.
They chickened out?
They chickened out and sent the grand jury home.
They did not bring them in today, but they did tell them to come back tomorrow.
And I'm interested because I think everybody in America has a stake in this.
The left has the wrong stake in it.
They don't care what Trump did or did not do.
They just want to throw him in jail.
They want to arrest him.
They want to read that headline and have it there for the rest of time memorial.
that says Trump indicted, Trump arrested.
And then they want that picture of him in handcuffs, which apparently he said he wants too.
And I understand because he is being unfairly treated as he has been since he declared himself a candidate for president, became a candidate, got the nomination, ran for office, was president, and left office.
They have been unfairly abusing state power to attack Donald Trump, and it's a disgrace.
Now, whether or not this Alvin Bragg, you know, Soros prosecutor, scumbag, donut muncher, he looks a lot like Malcolm Nance, which is kind of sad, because you got a Ukraine war poser and you got a guy who Soros paid to get in office, But even he may not be dumb enough to try and go through the contortions he's going through to invent charges to get those headlines they want.
And who knows?
If they actually indict him, it would be in New York, and you can say, maybe there are enough New Yorkers who love Trump, they get one on the jury, he doesn't get convicted.
I'm not sure I'd want to roll those dice.
For the same reason that all the J6ers are taking pleas, too many of them having to, because they don't want to try a D.C.
jury, I'm not sure I would really want to try a Manhattan jury against my freedom.
I don't know what the actual penalty could be for paying off a hooker.
I don't know what that is.
How long do you do in jail?
Do you go to Leavenworth and make small rocks out of big rocks because you paid off a hooker?
And let's talk about that for a second.
I call her a hooker.
I don't think porn star is fair.
Just because you screw on video for money, you're a star?
You're not a star.
You're a hooker.
And I think calling them a star is unfair.
So I just call her a hooker.
She's selling sex for money.
I don't even care if he slept with her or not.
But he paid her.
And guess what?
That's not illegal.
It's not illegal.
And just because he was running for office near the time he made the payment does not make it illegal.
And I don't want to get into the, did he make it?
Did his lawyer make it?
That's legal garbage.
What we're talking about here, and the principle as to whether or not this was an illegal, it was a campaign finance violation, is if he only did it to affect his standing in an election.
Well, guess what?
Donald Trump, man that he is, is probably not the first time he's paid somebody off for something like that.
He has not had the most exemplary social life across time.
He is not, you know, the moral leader of the country.
Okay?
If he pays her off in the way he might have paid off anyone who was going to ruin his reputation as a TV star, as a businessman, in any way he might normally have done that outside of the fact that he was running for office, that makes it Not criminal.
That makes it legal.
You can do that.
You're allowed to pay off hookers to protect your own reputation.
And just because that may happen to help you in an election doesn't automatically make it a campaign finance violation.
So they literally have no case.
But what they have is that deep seated, I mean, pathological desire to try and punish Donald Trump.
I mean, I'll be honest.
I think a lot of the Ukraine war mania that has spread across the left is not because they like war.
They don't.
But they let Putin be a stand in for Trump.
So they literally are willing to take us toward World War Three because they can bomb Putin.
And feel good because in their minds they just put Trump's hair on him and treat him like he's the same thing.
So they don't care whether it was good.
They have been literally and I think Donald Trump had an unprecedented term from the campaign through his time in office through now.
long campaign of abuse against him during that whole time frame that no one else has even come close to having.
No one has been unfairly maligned, improperly attacked, you know, had conspiracies to lie about him that involved the media, the deep state, Democrat operatives.
All of these people worked together to lie and try to bust him for things The bulk of which he didn't do.
And it's not like, like I said, he's not an exemplary individual, either morally.
His business ethics, maybe not 100% above board.
Okay, so what?
What he did though, is he had the audacity to beat the left at their own game.
He told them to pound sand.
He told them, I don't care.
I'm gonna do what I told the people I'm gonna do, and none of your attacks are gonna stop me.
Now they slowed him down.
I think if we look back at what Trump could have done if he had not been the victim of the most shameless campaign of abuse in U.S.
presidential history, what could he have gotten accomplished?
And I'm not saying he made plenty of mistakes on his own.
He had bad people in, he was unprepared for a lot of things that went on.
But he had the opportunity to do so much more and it was derailed by the fact that he had to spend probably 50% of his time dealing with garbage attacks by scumbags who knew, they knew that what they were doing was wrong, was a lie, was false, and they did it anyhow.
So, here we go again.
Same as it ever was, you know?
I mean, we're in a Talking Heads song here.
And I think, at this point, we're going to find out.
Obviously, you've got the New York case.
You've also got the garbage case in Georgia, which is...
If not as weak, maybe weaker.
I mean, it's right there.
They don't have anything on him.
He did not illegally try to influence the election in Georgia.
He told them, I think your election was garbage.
We think that there were this many fraudulent votes, and you need to find us 11,000 of them, because that's the margin of victory.
He would have liked to see them find all 400,000-some that he believed were fraudulently put into the counts.
But he said, I only need $11,000, so I don't care after that.
That's not a crime.
But again, we're going to find out.
Do they have the audacity?
Are they shameless enough to go ahead and drop an indictment there?
Because one way or another, in the same way that they were willing to take a phone call about corruption in Ukraine, which we now are confirmed Joe Biden was deeply involved with, and ask them about that and impeach him over it, Well, they will definitely, somebody is going to indict Trump before this primary season is over.
It's just a question of which one of their losers is going to do it.
And they all have to worry.
The guy in New York may be in trouble because if he didn't turn over all of the exculpatory evidence he may have access to, he could actually be in trouble.
So we'll see what happens.
The bottom line is Trump is going to, there will be a headline somewhere before the end of the primary season that says Trump arrested because the left demands that.
And that is a perversion of the American justicism.
It's even a perversion of our perverted political system.
So I wish that was not the case, but it is.
And now the question we have is, are we going to fight back hard enough to win, to push some of these people out, and to make the liars, cheats, and frauds who are involved in doing this pay?
I sure hope we are, because I'm mad about it, and I hope you are too.
Coming up next after the break, we're going to talk with Gordon Chang, who is the go-to guy to find out what the Chinese communists are up to.
Pro tip, spoiler, it's no good.
Back after the break.
All right.
How goes it, Rumblers?
Hey.
Hey, let's do this.
Let's do what we do.
We do this when I guest host.
So I'm asking the Rumble chat to rumble and chat and go crazy.
Do what you do.
Give me something to talk about in the third hour.
And then we'll get it tweeted out.
It's gonna come from my account this time.
At Jim Hansen DC.
Yep.
And the other thing to look at too, I guess I'll wait, but for you Rumble Chat people, since you can do this after the show, go to my at jimhansondc and that's where the episode of the Warlords podcast is.
But Kurt Schlichter will be on and oh, look at that!
That's nice.
It kind of looks like maybe there's a fire.
Like maybe DC's burning in the background.
That's what I was going there with the background.
I didn't want to do actual flames because I'm subtle.
Now that's one thing I'm well known for is my subtlety.
So we didn't want to do actual flames.
But, you know, it's got that color scheme.
Metaphorical.
Your guess is on the line.
All right.
You want the mics on for him or off?
Yeah, let's put them on.
Mics are on.
Hey Jim, how are you?
No, I don't have any currencies.
Hey, Gordon.
Hey, Jim.
How are you?
I am well.
It's been too long.
And just so you know, we are live streaming.
So no state secrets of our stuff we're doing here.
Not that I think we have any at this point.
No, I don't have any clearances.
If you could mention my Twitter handle.
Let me make sure.
Is it just at Gordon Chang?
Gordon G Chang.
At Gordon G Chang.
I will make sure and tell people to follow you because they should.
Dude, I wish you weren't so in demand right now, but I don't think that's going to change.
Well, yeah, I know.
That's not a good sign.
Awful as that is, I think we both know that that's meant in a good way to you and a bad way to the country, because there's nothing making me happy going on in our dealings with the CCP.
Yeah, no, I know.
This is really bad, actually.
Well, I think step one is doing what we're doing here.
Identify the problem.
Fixing it.
That's the downside of not having control of the executive branch.
They're going to do more dumb stuff.
Oh, it's really bad, actually.
All right.
Well, we will dig into that for sure.
And I will get your tweet.
Do you have a book current or you want me to... Just the coming collapse of China.
When?
Give me a T. Give me some hope.
That's hope.
Absolutely true.
go well we'll uh we'll see if we can make it a little bit more hopeful because i think i uh i remain hopeful that they are still more not facade because i don't i think there's a lot behind the you know the the front they put up but i still think there's less than people believe and that's important absolutely true absolutely true all right well we're about 30 seconds out and uh
Let's have some fun.
Yeah, thank you so much.
All right.
You can't go left.
That's a three-way entrance.
All right, Mike's off.
All right, Mike's Mike's off.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
Hey folks, happy to be sitting in Seb's chair while he's down at Fort Bragg talking to our special operators.
But I am actually happy and sad to be joined by Gordon Chang, because the fact that he's joining us is a sign that, once again, China is doing things that we're doing badly to counter.
I want to make sure you follow him on Twitter, at Gordon G. Chang, and his book, The Coming Collapse of China, cannot come soon enough.
Welcome to the show, Gordon.
Thank you so much, Jim.
Well, look, I think there's plenty.
I want to start off in the less obvious of the two really bad things that happened recently.
But China managed to get a deal done between our enemy Iran and our somewhat ally, the Saudis.
for a rejuvenation of diplomatic ties between those two countries.
This is barely two years after the Trump administration managed to get a couple Gulf Arab states to sign deals with the Israelis to increase relations.
Have we really flipped that far that the U.S.
is no longer a power broker in the Middle East and the Chinese are there too?
Yes.
Actually, America's Middle East policy under the Trump years was like the best since FDR.
But Biden's is clearly the worst ever.
And we're seeing that because, as you mentioned, Saudi Arabia was a firm friend of the United States, was supporting our efforts.
We had the Abraham Accords, which President Trump should have won the Nobel Prize for, and what Biden has done is he's reversed all that progress in the matter of a couple months.
He did that by trying to isolate the Saudis, and this is not a very good story for the United States.
No, and the sad thing is it's a sign of the entire kind of what I call the cringing capitulation model of foreign policy that Obama started.
You know, the idea that America is not the indispensable nation, that we are not in some way the one who should be pushing global policy, but that we should be following the lead of others.
And I think they're in some ways happy to let the Chinese do that.
Well, you know, there's a lot to that because both China is a supporter of Iran and the Biden administration.
So Biden is helping China foreign policy in the Middle East, even though most of Chinese foreign policy in the Middle East is directed against the United States.
You just can't make this stuff up.
One of the things that's been going on long enough that I think people forget, China has done a brilliant job with the Belt and Road Initiative and their predatory financing for tyrants around the world, their buying up of resources, especially things that are vital to high tech manufacturing.
And we allowed a lot of that to happen.
You know, Trump actually started putting some slowdown to Chinese expansion.
But overall, we as a country have done far too little to stop them from becoming potentially the preeminent global superpower.
Yes.
And Biden, by being weak, has opened the door to China.
And not only in the Middle East, but also Biden's terrible policy in Afghanistan let Vladimir Putin think that he can invade Ukraine with impunity.
So, you know, you've got a war in Ukraine that would have never occurred in the Trump era.
And now we've got Xi and Putin slapping backs, you know, taking long walks through giant halls to get great photo opportunities.
But more importantly, probably outlining the peace deal that the Chinese are going to broker between Russia and Ukraine, rather than the US.
Is that something you see as a possibility?
Yeah, I think that China's peacemaking efforts are not going to be successful with regard to Ukraine and Russia for a number of reasons.
One of them is that China is not seen as an honest broker by Ukraine, but also because the Iranians and the Saudis felt that they had some interest in a deal I think at this moment, Ukraine feels it must fight to eject Russia, and Russia thinks that it must annex Ukraine.
So that's a zero-sum contest that neither Ukraine nor Russia really wants to settle.
So I think China's vision is going to come a proper.
Well, and as long as the Biden administration, through their public policy, is saying things like, "We do not support a ceasefire." You know, we are going to back the Ukrainians all the way.
And now you do you think the Russians are actually looking to annex Ukraine or just potentially Donbass and Crimea?
You know, the Russian speaking provinces, they hold Crimea, which they've held since 2014.
Isn't that a deal that that might be?
Obviously, the Ukrainians don't want it, but I don't know that they can count on support forever, can they?
Well, you know, that's a great point.
Yeah, nobody can count on support forever.
And clearly, Biden is just trying to manage the situation rather than obtain a victory.
And the question is, which power is weaker, Russia or Ukraine?
And there's a lot of learning about that.
But the point right now, I think, is that Russia will take what it can get.
If it can get only the Donbass and other parts of Ukraine, they'll settle for that.
But if they think they can get it all, I think that that's what they're going for.
Because that was the reason why they had that full-scale invasion.
So do you think Xi went then more for the foreign policy leadership coup as opposed to a chance to actually make a deal?
Or, I mean, there is some back, you know, backroom dealing as far as financial transactions, you know, energy deals and other things that they're doing with the Russians.
The Chinese are supporting Russia's ability to prosecute this war, basically, at some level, right?
Absolutely.
It's all in.
And it's not just the elevated commodity purchases, which are effectively financing the war.
China opened up its financial system to sanction Russian institutions.
It's putting its diplomats in the service of the Kremlin.
Its propaganda is all in on Russia.
And there's been lethal assistance from the very first moments of this war.
So, yeah, China is the reason why Russia is still able to fight.
Take out China and probably Russia has to withdraw from all of Ukraine.
Is there some sort of larger alliance that they may sign?
Is there a deal to be made or is it just going to be, you know, a little bit of shuttle diplomacy or something similar to that by Xi?
I don't see an alliance.
China does not feel it needs to ally formally with any party.
It's only got one formal alliance, that's with North Korea, and it's somewhat embarrassed about that.
So I don't see a formal alliance with Russia, but effectively they are partners, they're very close, they're working hand in hand.
So it's like a London alliance.
Matter of fact, China and Russia are closer As on an ad hoc basis than we are with some of our formal treaty partners.
Which is horrifying, and I guess it's an idea.
So we don't have to actually worry about a dragon bear treaty, but the dragon bear partnership, you know, as an ad hoc thing is legit and likely to continue.
Absolutely.
You know, a lot of very smart people in New York and Washington will say that China and Russia will never be able to have an enduring partnership.
And I can agree with that.
But I don't care about Moscow and Beijing in the 2050s or the 2060s.
I care about what these guys are doing right now.
And right now, they are taking apart the world, in part because Biden isn't stopping them.
And he hasn't shown any ability to lead on any foreign policy issue, I guess unless you count retreating as leadership.
And like I said, I think that's part of the concept.
I think the Obama idea of cringing capitulation has been the only way he believes that America should act.
Well, listen, we've got to take a break, but after that I want to come back with Gordon Chang.
Follow him, Gordon G. Chang, on Twitter.
And I want to talk about the other thing that the Ukraine war is pointing out.
There's a little island not too far from China that has a big stake in how that all turns out.
I'm Jim Hanson.
We're doing America First Radio after the break.
Mic's on.
All right.
Three and a half minutes.
When do you want to do that food for the poor? - Sure.
This is a short one.
This next segment, right?
Yeah.
You want to do it in D?
Um, D is Sean.
No, I'm gonna do it at the end.
I'm gonna... E?
Alright.
Yeah.
Beginning of the E segment.
Yeah, but do remind me because I don't want to cut Sean short because we're gonna, we got some beatings to give out.
Now that definitely makes sense.
Um, what other reads were there, Alex, besides food?
We got, uh... Consumer Research and Israel.
And one Israel.
Okay, yeah, that works out quite nicely.
So Seb sent me a picture from Bragg.
Bragg, I saw that.
He sent that in the group chat as well.
Good times.
Well, I told him he should go get a picture by Bronze Bruce, which is the other statue.
You guys familiar with Bronze Bruce?
I do not know this story.
You have to Google, if you just Google Bronze Bruce, they put up a statue, and this was literally back in the late 80s, at the Special Warfare Center School at Bragg, and it's a Green Beret dude with a You know, he's got an M16 and he's got his beret on, but he is so gay looking.
And I don't know how to say, he's got his hand out, you know, with his left hand kind of cocked in a very fruity way.
And he's got the rifle on his hip, you know, kind of pointing up in the air.
He instantly was designated as Bronze Bruce, you know, and he has been forever.
And I was like, you need to get a picture over there.
And he sends one by the cooler statue that's not quite so bad, because I think he knew what I was going to do.
Oh man, two minutes.
I will always use that against you.
I love statues so much.
I mean, they can be fun, but... But if they're not done right... Well, the whole idea is, how does that make it past... I mean, how many people does it take to get a statue approved and then posted on a military post?
Some of whom had to be special forces guys, you know?
They were high-ranking officers, but you didn't see that?
Nobody else saw that?
And then the second it drops in public, everyone's like, that's pretty gay.
Gay.
I mean, is he gay?
How about that new MLK statue they unveiled that looks like... Right?
Like, what even was that?
I'm like, this is modern art, man, in a nutshell.
I don't get it.
And they can't have that excuse for the one at Bragg, because it's a realistic.
You know, it's not stylized at all.
It's just stylized in a way.
It's fabulously stylized.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, okay?
There are gay berets, but... It's just, you gotta wonder.
Oh, man.
Alright, one minute. 40 seconds. 30. one minute. 40 seconds. 30.
30 seconds.
Mike's off, gentlemen.
Thank you.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
Yes, I am Jim Hansen.
You can find me at jimhansendc on Twitter and you can find my guest Gordon Chang at gordongchang on Twitter and you should follow him because he is an indispensable analyst right now because we got Chinese communist problems and they're not getting better.
You should also check out his book, The Coming Collapse of China, which cannot come and collapse soon enough for my liking.
Gordon, we talked a little bit about Chinese ascendancy in Middle East affairs and obviously their partnership with the Russians and what they're doing in Ukraine, but the 800-pound gorilla in anytime we have to talk about their ambitions is the island of Taiwan, and whether or not does the
Long nature of the war in Ukraine and our large commitment of military, you know, hardware and everything else, make them at least consider the idea that we might not have the appetite to defend Taiwan if they made a move.
You know, that's a really important point you make.
Well, first of all, we're bleeding munitions, which we should use in East Asia instead of the western part of the Eurasian landmass in Ukraine.
But also, it's a question of signals.
And what Biden is signaling is he's not looking for victory.
He's looking to manage the situation in Ukraine.
And that says to Xi Jinping that the United States doesn't have will.
So, unfortunately, it is somewhat of a green light for the Chinese to say, well, let's go after Taiwan.
And this is something that I think that the Biden team doesn't understand.
They make some very short-term decisions.
All presidents do this, but Biden does it more than others.
Short-term decisions, and they don't understand the consequence that it has on other bad actors.
Especially other bad actors who have a long and well-known ability to play the long war.
You know, for us, a long cycle is 24 hours of the news.
You know, we don't do strategy in the United States.
We do tactics and reaction.
And the problem, like you said, is it's not even just that it signals the weakness and the lack of, I guess, fortitude in our foreign policy and our national security.
That's the fact.
That is literally, you know, if they made the move, I worry that we wouldn't do it.
Now, I think that would be a very, very ugly situation because we'd have to have some response.
But it also means that there's a chance if they could run the table quickly that we never got there in a way to stop it.
Yes.
And I think Xi Jinping right now is extremely arrogant.
The words that he said when saying goodbye to Putin a few hours ago indicated that Xi Jinping thinks that he's running the world.
And I'm not saying he's right, but whether he's right or wrong almost doesn't matter, because it matters what he actually thinks, because that's what's going to motivate him to act or not act.
And unfortunately right now he thinks that the United States is done and that he can invade Taiwan or even take on the United States and not suffer any cost.
So that is the critical fact at the moment.
Do you think there's any chance?
I mean, they're constantly floating the idea of replacing the dollar as the reserve currency of the world.
Obviously, we got bank issues going on and our economy is not doing that great.
Is there a chance they can make any kind of a play in the short term to take advantage of that?
Can get a little bit of advantage, Jim, but not much, because the problem is the Chinese currency is not convertible on the capital account, and it's barely convertible on the current account.
So nobody long-term wants to hold that currency.
Now, there are a lot of other reasons why you don't want to hold renminbi, but that is the critical one.
So yeah, China can huff and puff, but people don't want to hold a weak currency such as the Chinese one, where they just can't convert it.
And the scary thing is, as fragile as our economy may be, it's still much better.
So what's a good move Biden could make?
What could he do right now to at least show China we have some level of seriousness?
Well, first of all, win in Ukraine.
And we can do that because Russia right now, first of all, Ukraine has the advantage on the battlefield.
Let's help them win.
We help them win.
We take down Russia.
That makes Xi Jinping think, oh my gosh, the Americans really are strong.
I better not invade Taiwan or some other neighbor.
So that's the first thing.
The second thing is, you know, Biden can actually avoid a war in Taiwan by getting behind his desk, having the television cameras there, and Biden say, we will defend Taiwan and we will impose severe costs on China should you ever try to do anything.
That makes the Chinese think twice.
You know, if I can go on just for a second.
Very short second.
Yeah, Trump talked about this, and this is how he stopped the Chinese and the Russians, by making it appear unpredictable, and that he might actually go in and do things.
You know, I was going to say when you said Biden should do that, I said that sounds a lot like a president who's no longer in office.
Gordon Chang, author of The Coming Collapse of China, a book you should read and you should follow him on Twitter at Gordon G Chang because he has more of this important information.
I'm Jim Hansen.
This is America First Radio.
We'll be back in a minute.
All right, mic's on.
There we go.
Yep.
All right.
Jeff just walked in, so we're gonna get Sean on the line right quick.
Alright, come on. come on.
Alright, come on.
And we have him on.
Don't tell him the mics are live.
I was hoping I could catch him saying something stupid.
You're busted.
What's up, Sean?
Not much.
How are you doing?
I am well.
How about yourself?
Doing well.
Getting over a cold, so I apologize in advance for sounding like I got Kleenex stuffed up my nose.
No, but it gives you a nice little rumble.
Maybe a little more baritone.
Nice.
You know, so there you go.
Rumble for rumble.
Yeah, I feel better when I have a sore throat and I'm talking because I sound a little manlier.
I can actually sing along to Johnny Cash tunes while I'm sick.
Oh, there you go.
That's worth doing.
It's worth doing anytime.
There we go.
So how's the homestead, dude?
I love the pictures.
I'm jealous because I don't have land.
You know, I've got four-tenths of an acre.
Oh, it's glorious.
And my plan one day is to escape off into the woods and never return.
Just like Grizzly Adams or somebody walk off.
Yeah, I'm just gonna become one with nature.
You know, that's I hate to be the one to break it to you.
But that's overrated.
There's no electricity.
There's no hot water.
You know what I mean?
There's a lot of downside to that.
So that's true.
True.
I can't do it, dude.
My wife keeps saying, we should go camping, and I laugh.
I'm like, no, I don't think that's going to happen.
Hey, a little Johnny Cash for us.
That's going to be our bump-in.
That's never a bad idea.
You can't go wrong.
All right.
All right.
Well, dude, you got anything you want to do besides Cornyn?
We'll start there.
Yeah, I mean, we got the crazy Trump indictment, which might or might not happen, but seems inevitable.
Are you doing one or two segments with us?
I don't know.
What do you want?
I'll take as much Sean as I can get, man.
Yeah, do two.
Okay.
If that's the case, then I should do the read now, shouldn't I?
Yeah, probably.
Radio people, tell me to be smart.
This is food we're talking about, right?
Yeah, I'll do food now.
Yeah, all right.
25 seconds. 25 seconds.
25 seconds. 25 seconds. 25 seconds.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
It certainly is.
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Now, I want to bring in a man who I love.
Sean Davis.
And I mean love in the most deepest man-to-man kind of way.
Sean Davis, co-founder of The Federalist.
And brother, I heard someone talking bad about you on the Twitters.
And I think it was this Senator Cornyn guy from Texas who was hell-bent on running us into World War III by backing Zelensky with everything he wants, and you pointed out maybe that's not the greatest idea, and he called you Neville Chamberlain?
Well, I think the most interesting aspect of that is that we had a senator who was actually able to make a historical reference.
So props to him.
It's probably the only one he knows.
Right, right.
It's on his list of one.
But we should give a little head tap for that.
Yeah, he went after me, called me an appeaser and a Nazi sympathizer, compared me to former British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, for suggesting, how dare I, that maybe just giving buckets of money to Ukraine forever isn't actually in America's national security interest, that maybe what's that maybe just giving buckets of money to Ukraine forever isn't actually in America's national security interest, that maybe what's happening over there is a dispute that Europe needs to figure out, and that maybe we're actually making ourselves a lot less safe by putting all of our eggs in that basket, spending and that maybe we're actually making ourselves a lot less safe by putting all of our eggs in that basket, spending hundreds
I think I am both amused and horrified along with you, and I think it's the lack of ability to see what U.S. strategic interests actually are.
It's easy to hate Putin.
He's a horrible guy.
He's a tyrant.
He's a war criminal.
All the things they say about him are true.
But that does not mean that we should do everything we can as a country to defeat him.
And I think that's different than stopping the war in Ukraine.
Why don't we work on stopping it as opposed to this mad, you know, rush to try and defeat Putin?
Well, I think you're exactly right.
And it's worth noting, you know, this week is the 20th anniversary of the launch of the Iraq war, which, in my opinion, was a disaster.
We did a very, very poor job of figuring out what our actual mission was there.
If it was to get rid of Saddam Hussein, they should have gone in there, done it, and got out.
But instead, you know, we still have troops there.
It's been 20 years, and we still have troops there.
And it's just fascinating to me that in that Twitter exchange, it was started by Korden attacking Ron DeSantis for being skeptical of the Ukraine mission and using the exact same propaganda that was used on us back in 2002.
We've got to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here.
Okay, is Putin suddenly planning like an amphibious attack, an aerosol on America that I'm unaware of?
Dude can't even handle Ukraine.
So the idea that John Cornyn, 20 years after the launch of the disastrous war in Iraq, which cost us untold blood and treasure, that he would use that same propaganda and not even understand it in trying to launch a new, potentially World War III, in Asia and Europe, we truly potentially World War III, in Asia and Europe, we truly are led by idiots.
They have no understanding of what's at stake here, and it just boggles my mind.
Yeah, and you can give Zelensky credit, and maybe an extra Y for his name.
I'm up to four Ys when I use his name now, because I just think he's that important and impressive a guy.
But at least he pays attention to our propaganda and knew how to talk to the American people, saying, fight him there or here.
But Putin got all his new toys blown up in the opening of this war.
You know, that's just it.
He's down there literally importing 1950s era tanks to fight the war in Ukraine right now from Russia.
I don't think he's much of a threat to even Lichtenstein, let alone us.
You're right.
And the big risk to us, there's two.
There's an economic risk and there's the national security risk.
So, John Cornyn and people who haven't read a book in who knows how long, they constantly look at everything like World War II.
They're always the good guys.
Their enemies are always Hitler.
If we have to have a 20th century historical analog here, it's not World War II.
It's World War I. Now, recall that the whole world kind of stumbled and bumbled and sleepwalked into that after Austria-Hungary goes and annexes Serbia.
The Serbian separatists don't like that.
So a bunch of them get together.
and they assassinate the heir apparent of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire.
So what does that lead to?
It leads to Britain declaring war against Germany, and Germany declaring war against Russia because Russia's view to be allied was served.
And suddenly, because of this territorial dispute you have in the middle of that region, the entire world is now embroiled in a war.
And it's so similar now, except the much bigger difference is these people all have nukes.
Yeah, oh, people forget.
Russia has nukes.
Yeah, I know.
And people, I was arguing with Jim Carrafano today on Twitter again, that he said Putin has exhausted his run of atrocities.
I'm like, Putin hasn't even opened up his atrocity cupboard yet.
You know, yes, he has committed horrible things, but he hasn't gone all the way yet.
You know, your World War I reference, aside from being a great historical lesson, and I appreciate that, because it is pretty apt.
I hadn't thought of it in exactly those terms.
But they are doing trench warfare.
They are literally in trench right now over in the Russian-speaking provinces and lobbing stuff at each other and playing snipers, just like we're watching, you know, all quiet on the Western Front again.
Well, hey, Sean Davis, co-founder of The Federalist.
Follow him on Twitter at SeanMDAV.
And he'll be back after the break because I want to talk about Trump.
I'm pretty sure they said they were going to arrest him and I think they might be chickening out.
We'll be back.
I'm Jim Hanson.
This is America First Radio.
Okay.
Yeah, you can never go wrong with Johnny Cash.
He just puts me in a good mood.
So good.
You know, I mean, there's just nothing about a Johnny Cash song that doesn't make you want to be an American and probably breaking some rules, you know what I mean?
Everything I like about this country is embodied in his music.
God bless him.
We need to bring back outlaw country.
Yeah, man.
That's because country now is half woke.
Punk country?
Pop country.
Pop country.
It's woke pop.
It's kind of lame.
They're not quite outlaw, but I like the Americana music that's coming out.
A lot of it, you know, kind of roots type stuff.
It's not as overproduced as country.
You know what I mean?
It's singer-songwriters and small bands and acoustic instruments and that kind of stuff.
I can dig that.
I like that.
I like rockabilly, bluegrass, the old stuff.
stuff did you ever see this mike judge did a series called uh i think it's back of the tour bus have you ever seen it's oh my god all right you got to find it i'll get i'll find a link and send it to you he did he found old or musicians back in the days when musicians were interesting and got them and their bands and their people to give interviews to him about the crazy crap they were doing you know i mean the wild stuff the back of the tour bus stuff i think that's what it's called back of the tour bus
and then he animated it in the beavis and butthead style amazing and he's got your so you got the original people talking but animated versions of them doing all the crazy things they're telling stories about Okay, yeah.
Send that to me.
I mean, he did Outlaw Country.
He did Waylon Jennings and Willie and all those guys.
He did like Rick James.
He did Parliament Funkadelic.
And he literally got all these guys to bust the seal on the real stories of the partying and the stuff they were doing.
But yeah, the Outlaw Country one, it's awesome.
Okay, yeah.
You can send that to me.
I have to watch that.
Oh, you will just laugh your ass.
It's one of those late night.
Everybody went to bed and you're like, I'm not going to bed yet.
I'm going to do something wrong.
So, inject myself with the kind of things I wish I still did.
Now I just tell stories about it.
I need an animated version of me telling my stories.
Oh, goodness gracious.
That's not a bad idea.
So, there Jimbo was, knee deep and hand grenade pins.
Right?
You know that.
I do that one.
Dude, I can do that one for like almost two minutes straight before I have to take a break from the intro to that.
Jim killed ten guys with a grenade before it exploded.
Oh Thank
you.
America first with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
Yes, I am Jim Hansen, and my guest is Sean Davis, co-founder of the Federalist.
Hey Sean, we were talking about the Russians and all that kind of stuff, and I actually think there's a piece of Senator Corden's critique of you that you missed.
He finally dumped the beans on who funds the Federalist.
Oh yeah, who is it?
Putin.
I knew it!
I knew you were a Putin stooge, dude.
Everyone knows that.
Well, now it's a fact.
But, dude, let's jump.
Let's jump quick and have a chat.
What do you think they're going to do with the potential indictment and arrest in New York?
Are they going to chicken out or are they going to cuff and stuff him?
I haven't heard that rhyming combo before.
That's a good one.
I think they're going to indict him.
This, to me, is the Political Democrat version of Chekhov's gun that says you can't have a gun in a play in Act One if it's not going to go off by the end of the play.
You can't dangle Trump getting arrested in front of these Democrats who are just deranged by Trump and not arrest Trump.
So I could be wrong.
It's happened before.
I think they're going to go through with it.
They're just trying to figure out their timing.
Interesting.
Okay.
And Trump kind of threw him a curveball by laying it out there, which that's what he's good at.
He's good at both counterpunching and also throwing the first punch and making it look like a counterpunch.
So now he also said, you think he's going to go in and get that picture with the handcuffs on and try and be the full-on martyr?
I have no idea.
I don't really understand how that process works.
But what I will say is everyone wants to talk about the Trump angle here.
Trump and Trump and Trump.
I find this horrifying for reasons that have nothing to do with Trump or whether you like him or whether you hate him.
The Democrats, the left in this country, has declared an all-out war on their political enemies.
You can see it in the J6 stuff.
You saw it in the Russian collusion hoax.
You saw it in how they have tried to go and disbar attorneys who worked for Trump.
They said things they didn't like.
They're not stopping with Donald Trump here.
It's not like they're going to arrest him and say, OK, guys, we won.
The war's over.
You can go back to it.
This is just the appetizer here.
We're not even to the entree yet.
They would like to do this to all of us, and I hope everyone realizes that and understands what's at stake here, because it's not Donald Trump.
It's our own existence as a democratic republic where we have rule of law, and that's clearly going down the tubes right now.
I wish you were wrong, but that's something you most definitely are not wrong about.
They have thrown the rulebook out.
I think our buddy Kurt Schlichter, who's going to be on later, always says, I don't care what rules you want to play by, but let's just get them on the table, because you're not going to like it when we start playing by those rules, too.
And I think it's time and we're going to have to do that.
Thank you, Sean Davis, co-founder of The Federalist, not funded by Putin, at SeanMDAV on Twitter.
And read The Federalist.
There's great stuff there.
Join their community.
Do all of it because they are part of the quality of our conservative media.
Thanks for joining us, Sean.
All right, it's Jim Hansen sitting in for Dr. G, who's down at Fort Bragg talking to the troopies.
And we'll be back after the break and actually after a little bit of news for you folks with my good buddy and co-founder of the Warlords podcast, Kurt Schlichter.
Wow.
Thank you.
This hour of America First starts right now on Salem News Channel.
This hour of America First is a production of the United States.
You get what you always want.
Me and Colonel Schlichter tearing it up.
We're going to announce a new show that the world will be blessed with called The Warlords, and we're going to talk about the rest of the news of the day.
The doctor is in America First with Dr. Sebastian Gorka on Salem News Channel, the antidote to the mainstream media.
All right.
I'm just gonna go downstairs.
Lock the dogs up so they can't F everything up.
Thank you.
All right, mecks on. mecks on.
Hello, Colonel K.
Hey, how's it going?
It's going good.
About two and a half minutes here.
Mike's alive on a rumble.
Sounds good.
Jim's sitting down and he'll put his headphones on in just a moment.
Got my weird looking jacket and shirt.
Wearing a peach shirt with a light blue jacket.
Virginia colors.
The show wore a yellow shirt.
Looks like Easter in the South.
Alright, two minutes.
We have them on the line.
Oh, still putting headphones in.
There we go.
I need to be smart enough to put a left and right on my...
That always annoys me so much, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It takes me way too long to figure it out.
Ha!
There's the man himself!
There he is.
Hey player, how's it going?
Oh dude, we're having too much fun.
Hold on.
I just fronted Sean Davis out for taking money from Putin to fund the Federalist.
Oh yeah?
Yeah, we all knew it.
Yeah, all the pieces fit.
Hold on, I'm trying to Face myself here, hold on.
All right.
That's pretty good.
Minute 70.
Okay, hold on.
That's a little shark-skinny jacket, man.
I know, right?
Is it a Mafia hit you got later?
Yes.
Yes.
I got a massage later, man.
Wow.
As soon as I'm done with my media hits, I'm gonna go get rubbed by a spring.
Nice.
Dude, when you told me I had to worry about flooding last night, I was like, that sounds like bullshit.
And then I went and checked the news.
And literally Sam's like, we're running an SUV now.
And I'm like, we should rent a Zodiac.
It's what we should run.
40 seconds.
Can't flood California.
It's special boat service.
Hey, Eric, just you're just gonna play that as B roll when I'm into this, right?
Yes, sir.
All right.
I'll intro Kurt and then I can start playing it, yep.
And I have the still image as well, when you want to use it at some point.
The title cards.
20 seconds.
Is he doing a read or what is it?
No, it's for the podcast.
Welcome back to America
First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo, a...
It's Jim Hansen.
I am absolutely Jim Hansen, and I am also the East Coast Warlord.
And that's going to become important because I'm about to introduce the West Coast Warlord, my good friend and co-conspirator, Kurt Schlichter.
Welcome to the show, buddy.
Hey!
Welcome!
We are Between Us.
We cover the nation with our power and potency.
Isn't that awesome?
And the reason that's important is because we just, last night, dropped the premiere episode of what is going to become the greatest podcast in the history of Earth.
It is called...
The Warlords.
And Kurt, the reason that this podcast is launched and is so vital is because the world needs our wisdom, especially America.
Without us, they're going to just continue to flounder and fail.
A lot of these people are lost souls in a sea of mediocrity, bobbing up and down, sometimes dog paddling, struggling for air.
We are the life preserver for manhood.
Well, we're going to generate taglines.
Hey, now there's a guy on the screen who looks a lot like me.
That scared me.
But dude, I think the thing is, we wanted to do something that was not just more, you know, talking heads jabbering about news of the day.
We're taking it one level deeper and worrying and at least highlighting how this is affecting our culture.
But more importantly, how are we going to fix it?
Exactly.
There's some hands-on stuff here.
For instance, look, a lot of guys in our age grew up, and knowledge was passed down, whether it was from fathers, or big brothers, or uncles, or even out on the street.
Well, kids don't go out on the street anymore, Jim.
They're sitting in their room playing the video machine.
And watching cheesy pornography.
Somebody's got to tell these guys how to live.
How do you get girls?
How do you get a job?
How do you not have your life go off the rails?
What can you do to make yourself a better person?
As opposed to, you know, struggling on your back like a cockroach you just got sprayed with rain.
And fortunately, for America, we're here!
And we are riding to the rescue.
We are running up the black flag.
We are putting the cutlass between our teeth.
And we are going to start boarding the woke ships.
And then we're going to sink them.
We're going to steal their women.
We're going to steal their booty.
We're going to rape, loot, kill.
Well, we're not going to rape.
We're going to loot and pillage.
Got to watch those.
Look, I'm down with the pillaging cart.
There you go.
Our pilot episode, we talk about woken up, but it's not more complaints about how stupid wokeness is.
We've established that.
What do you do about it?
How do you live?
And how do you prosper in a woke society?
We give you some advice.
Then we move on to, well, the ladies.
How do you deal with women?
Now, there are a lot of guys that, don't you hate?
You watch these guys.
They either never kissed a girl or they're with some like, mediocre growth treats them like crap and they're taking it.
They're doormats.
They're losers.
They don't know how to establish a decent relationship with a high-value woman.
They're just failures.
And then we talk about something I find very, very important.
Culture.
Particularly, one of the things we're going to explore is some of the movies that you need to know to be a complete man.
The first one is Caddyshack, but I'm sure we'll be hitting things like Zulu and Animal House and the Dirty Dozen as time goes on.
Apocalypse Now.
I've got an idea for Apocalypse Now.
We'll get Amanda in here.
Amanda needs to come over.
She's been waiting to come watch it.
We had fun down at the National Conservatism Conference.
She hosted an event where she took her dad's movie, and I'm going to forget the name of it now, the one where Sean Connery was a Berber.
Oh yeah, Wind in the Lion!
Wind in the Lion!
Thank you for saving me from that.
She actually did a commentary and we all watched the movie together.
And it was so fantastic because she's so much fun and such a good person.
So what I want to do is I want to have her over to the house and watch Apocalypse Now in Atmos and then have her comment on the whole thing.
So we'll work that out.
But that's the point.
There's so much good stuff that so eclipses the lameness now.
And I think there needs to be a revitalization of that.
There's nothing wrong with American men that can't be fixed and American women and American culture.
There is something wrong with the people running those things right now.
And we aim to fix that.
Exactly.
And we're also amusing.
We're highly amusing.
We're funny.
You crack me up, I crack you up, we crack us up.
Yeah, look, this isn't a baton death march of fat clichés and stupid platitudes, okay?
The only thing it's missing is some beers, whether alcoholic or non-alcoholic.
You can drink wine because you're in California.
I think that's actually legal.
Aren't men allowed to drink wine in California?
They're not in most civilized places.
I may or may not have a little bit of wine over there.
You've been to my house.
You have a lot.
You have a nice collection.
It's well stocked.
With steak too, which I think is another thing.
And then we'll talk about that.
We will talk about the manly arts of dry aging meat.
We will talk about cooking.
We will talk about hacking things with axes.
All of the things that used to just be common, as you mentioned, in American culture and in the ability of men to go ahead and act like men.
There's nothing wrong with that.
We're going to bring it back.
It should be encouraged.
And it's going to be fun.
And I don't think anybody else is doing it.
I mean, there are plenty of podcasts out there, which we listen to, that talk about politics all the time.
This one, politics is, of course, there because it's part of things.
But it's about life.
It's about living.
It's about testosterone.
And it's, I mean, the people who normally end up talking about how men should be manly, and especially, you know, the dude bros who are giving dating advice and all that kind of crap, they're losers, all right?
To the extent they have any success with women, they have success with low-esteem women with no brains and no quality, and they're teaching dudes how to be jerks.
You know what?
That's not the way to be a quality man.
And being a quality man is how you get a woman, all right?
They can tell.
Well, look, you must make yourself a high-value man.
You don't make yourself a high-value man by being a loser.
You don't make yourself a high-value man by being a guy who's going to get arrested for something real as opposed to invented.
And there's a lot of guys out there who've got a little bit of money, got a little bit of time, maybe they've worked out a little bit.
And they're going to clean up on the mediocre girls.
OK.
If that's your scene, you don't need us.
But if you're wondering, gosh, how does this stuff work?
Well, look, we have a proven crack record of success.
Our success is out there.
Anybody can check out our resume.
Because we're public figures.
And the nice thing is... Go ahead.
If you want a little of the K or J magic, well, we're sharing the secrets.
And that's what you can look for.
And I think the fun thing is, I'm going to go ahead and mention now that since I'm sitting in a Salem studio, I'm talking to a town hall contributor, anyone from those organizations who is interested in this, you are the ones who should be pushing this because this is the kind of content that is going to drive your audiences to the next level.
We put it out on Twitter last night and the response was very, very positive.
People were just looking at it going, wow, I'm never going to miss an episode.
So, you know, and you look at some of the podcasts out there that are kind of successful and you're thinking, yeah, I don't know.
We got a little something, a little more than, oh my God, did you put enough seasoning on your chicken?
Hey.
There's, there's a little more.
We're going to go chicken hunting.
You know, one of the things I want to do, I want to go, I want to take people on a cow hunt.
Because I don't think people understand how difficult it is to stalk and kill the American cow.
We'll hunt the Wiley Angus, you know, the Hereford.
Oh, if they had a chance, they'd take us out.
See, they're savages.
People don't get it.
So we'll find out.
We'll teach you how to stalk, hunt, kill, dress, and dry age the American cow.
Yeah, there's lots of little tactics, techniques, and procedures out there.
Look, I'm older than dirt, man.
I've been around forever.
I mean, I'm not Biden old.
I'm pretty frosty.
And I know some things.
And I have a proven track record of success.
And I want to share my proven track record of success with you!
And the nice thing is we will be interactive because we recognize we are not the only brilliant, good-looking, entertaining, funny, awesome, potentates out there.
We realize that the audience is a fount of useful knowledge and so we will be asking.
And what we'll try and do is we can announce things beforehand and ask people for their advice and information and input.
So it will be an interactive thing.
We will bloviate and pontificate because we earned the right.
But so will you.
And that's it.
All right.
Well, hey, we're talking with Kurt Schlichter, author of the Kelly Turnbull series, Inferno, as you see by his head.
And he's working on Overlord, the next one.
But get Inferno now.
Get prepared for Overlord.
Follow him on Twitter at Kurt Schlichter.
And we'll be back after the break to talk about Whether or not Donald Trump should actually be put in the stocks on the National Mall.
I think that's a legitimate thing.
This is Jim Hanson.
We're doing America First Radio.
We're doing America First Radio.
When we popped the podcast last night, actually, I went and listened to it again.
I think we were too nice!
I swear to God, I think we were actually very informative and there was ribbing and there was stuff, but I think we need to go ahead and add, I don't know, a cutlass section or something where we just are shredding something because I didn't think we were mean enough.
You know, when we become the voice of reason and moderation, and everybody says something about society.
That's one of my favorite things about when you and I are either guests and hosts on either side, whether you're hosting or I'm hosting, is you actually tend to be slightly more outrageous than me.
And that's rare, man.
That's a rare occasion when I can be, oh, Jim's going to be the voice of reason.
Sam looks at me, my wife, and she goes, you're the voice of reason.
Yeah, that's not great.
You offer me that though, man.
I think it's good.
Look, I'm very excited about this project.
Once we find a home, we're going to attract a lot of viewers.
You're starting to break up.
Is something changing?
Or is it the NSA coming down on you?
Probably the NSA.
Ah, there you're back.
Alright.
Probably the NSA.
I'm still trying to get over this shirt.
I was wearing a pink-colored shirt today.
That is, uh... But, see, the shininess of your Mafia-style jacket is distracting.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, the jacket's all Joe Pesci.
Yeah.
I was looking, and I was like, I usually try to wear some piece of camouflage when I do this, and I have yet to bust out.
I've got the camouflage corduroy jacket.
Oh, jeez.
I know.
It's beautiful.
It's woodland, so it's old school.
I went and got a couple of blazers because I'm going to a resort for a little bit.
Resort wear.
And I look like that annoying guy.
The most annoying things ever, I could wear them because I love them.
Dude, there's something about a resort where you should be right on that fine edge of Rodney Dangerfield or Chevy Chase.
Who are you going to be?
Which is another thing we cover in the podcast.
Exactly.
I want to be a little too loud, a little too annoying.
But I have the benefit of keeping people from talking to me.
They'll assume that I'm an annoying person and leave me alone.
Well, you scare off the people, yeah.
You'll scare off the crowd that you don't want just bothering you.
And you want to be right there on the edge of the people who are serving it think you're funny, because you're busting people's balls, but you're not causing them real trouble.
You're just annoying people they wish they could annoy.
That's a nice hat.
Does it come with a suit?
Oh, dude, the dinner scene.
Come on, Rodney at the dinner scene.
Are you going to eat your fat?
Shut up, Spalding!
You'll get nothing in like it.
All right, should we jump into some Trump?
I want to talk a little Trump with you, man.
Yeah, let's talk about Trump.
Because I love Trump.
Give me a second.
Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen.
Amen.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
Darn tootin', it's Jim Hansen, and I am back with the other Warlord of the Warlords podcast, Kurt Schlichter.
Follow him on Twitter at Kurt Schlichter, with multiple H's, and get the Kelly Turnbull book, Inferno, before he finishes Overlord, in which Kelly Turnbull hijacks a rocket ship and colonizes Mars to beat Elon Musk to the punch.
Did you know that, Kurt?
Not yet.
I hacked your computer and I inserted those chapters into your draft manuscript.
And then I alerted Elon.
I know.
And then I alerted Elon.
So you should be expecting a call anytime soon.
But look, dude, there's craziness going on.
And I want to talk about whether or not Donald Trump should be arrested, because I think he's not going to be.
I think they're going to chicken out.
What's your what's your overall feeling about Mr. Bragg in New York?
Well, look, I still think they'll probably indict him on this manifestly fraudulent and unbelievably destructive and lawless claim that ignores things like the law and statute of limitations.
And you're a lawyer.
You're actually a blood-sucking parasite lawyer, which was funny in the comments on the podcast.
That was one of the things people said.
He may be a blood-sucking parasitical lawyer, but he's funny.
And I was like, hey, stop encouraging it, you know?
Yes.
But you got a point.
This is illegal, and they're going to do it anyway, you think.
Just real quick, Sean Davis made a point where he said he considers this Chekhov's gun.
You can't have a gun in the first act of the play and then not shoot it.
Now, aside from the fact that that's way too literary a reference for me, and I had to actually Google it while he was telling me, but you think that's it?
Because they've been talking about it so much, they either do it or the left loses their mind?
Well look, I keep thinking, is Chekhov going to cap Sulu?
See, that's the kind of reference I can deal with!
Chekhov's gun!
That's Russian literature, man!
Four words in the house!
No, I mean, they've raised the hopes, and then Monday this Costello guy goes in, he's Michael Cohen's former lawyer, got a waiver of attorney-client privilege in writing.
How dumb do you have to be to give that to your lawyer to talk smack about you?
I think he probably had to do it as part of the federal plea bargain.
Because Ed Sue gave it to Costco.
So he signed a document saying I can say whatever I want.
Okay.
I have things to say.
Little lawyer advice.
Don't ever do that.
No, no, no.
Never talk to the cops either when they first come up to you.
Don't talk to them because it doesn't matter if you're innocent.
Don't talk to them.
Ask for your lawyer.
Officer, I'm very upset by what seems to be happening.
I'm going to assert my rights, and I want to consult with my attorney.
Please stop questioning me, and maybe we'll be able to discuss things at an appropriate time.
But no more questions, please.
I'm not making any statements.
Okay, so now that we've established that Cohen is an idiot and signed a stupid paper, what did Costello say that mattered about that?
Costco basically said he is a complete liar about everything, including the basic facts he testified to, to the grand jury.
Now, grand jury's in there, and it's here in the testimony.
But the hit on grand jury is that they will indict a ham sandwich.
And the simple fact is, in a regular case, they don't give exculpatory evidence.
Now it appears there's a bunch of exculpatory evidence that they didn't present.
And that becomes a problem that's not a real problem in a normal criminal case.
It's a problem here because it's a political case.
Now you have a political case that's being made with no attempt to provide exculpatory evidence, which a grand jury doesn't have a right to see, but it's not a normal legal case.
It's a political case.
And that becomes a political problem.
So is it a legal problem, though, for Bragg?
I mean, can he so he's not in any concern about prosecutorial abuse.
He didn't have to do it.
He's just now in trouble because he didn't do it because it's really sleazy.
Exactly.
He doesn't have to make the defense case.
But when you make it a political issue, normal people are like, What do you mean you only put in evidence that hurt him, and you had other evidence that would exonerate him?
That doesn't make any sense.
You kept evidence from them that their main witness was lying to them?
The grand jurors, I mean?
I mean, that doesn't work well.
Even a lot of liberal people are kind of like, you know, I don't like Trump, but that doesn't sound right.
And it isn't right.
Why did Costello get in there?
How did he get in there?
Is this the big donut-eater?
The donut-eating district attorney?
They thought they were smart.
They thought they were geniuses.
Oh, we're going to bring in Cohen's lawyer, and he's going to back up everything Cohen says.
He's got a waiver.
He can say what he wants.
And they bring him in and he's like, and they were trying not to let him, according to what he said on talker, they were trying not to let him get to the stuffed and hard.
And he just ignored their question.
You know, this guy lied to me all the time.
He was totally lying about everything.
And you know, you're the, you're the examining, you know, DA doctor.
Isn't that the other rule?
Never ask a question you don't know the answer to never bring on a witness who you don't know what they're going to say.
Yes.
You, you, you try not to do that.
Um, You also don't want to bring in a witness who's simply going to provide devastating information and isn't going to wait until you ask him a question that draws it out.
That sounds like fun.
I mean, I kind of hope to be in that position one time and be saying, okay, here's all the stuff no one's supposed to say, but I'm going to say anyhow.
And wait until the other judge is going to throw me in for contempt though, right?
Well, there's no judge.
It's just the DA and the grand jurors.
It's not a regular proceeding.
So you have the lawyer there going, uh, did you know Mr. Cohen?
Why, yes, I knew Mr. Cohen.
And he lied about everything.
He was constantly lying and said he wanted to do anything he had to do, no matter what, to avoid jail.
And you're the DA and you're like, stop doing that.
I didn't bring you in here to remind everybody what a scumbag my main witness is.
Exactly.
Well, I think we're going to find out.
I think the Chekhov's ham sandwich, whatever.
That's a great mixed metaphor.
Chekhov's ham sandwich demands that they go ahead and indict him.
But we'll see, because that's due to come.
What about, though, is the conventional wisdom right that this helps Trump in the general because all of a sudden he's the victim?
I don't think it helps him.
I think it gives him a short bounce.
As people sympathize with him.
He deserves sympathy.
This is a travesty.
I don't know if it helps him in the long run.
Well, I think the long run for now is the primary season.
And I think the question is, does the abuse of power against him outweigh the idea that people may be sick of a president who's got drama following everywhere he goes?
They may very well be.
They may very well be.
Well, I think that's something we're going to have to find out.
Now, did DeSantis—I actually thought DeSantis was a little funny when he does the whole, well, I don't know, I don't have a whole lot of experience paying off hookers, you know, when he made that comment.
I mean, come on, as much as Trump calls him Meatball and DeSanctimonious, I thought that was a decent shot back.
Yeah, well, look, you throw a punch, you don't get to set the rules about him punching you back.
And Trump lit the fire.
I don't understand the idea that somehow he gets to set the... Now you gotta stop!
Right.
It doesn't work that way.
No, it doesn't.
But it's fun.
And I think the more these guys engage, the more entertaining it's gonna be.
And I'm past the point where I think either one of them has to be nice.
Go ahead and throw your punches, guys, and we'll let the people vote and we'll have a candidate to nominate.
I'll call a primary.
Kurt Schlichter, author of We'll Be Back, a real book, author of Inferno, a very entertaining book in the Kelly Turnbull series, and at Kurt Schlichter on Twitter, also co-host of the greatest podcast, The Warlords.
I'm Jim Hanson.
We'll be back after the break with more America First.
I had to cancel Newsmouth.
Oh, here's Newsmax, finally calling when I told them they could.
All right, dude.
Have fun.
Bye.
Later.
All righty.
I think we could make, like, watching me and Kurt for 30 minutes at a time a punishment for leftists.
Oh, of course.
Can you imagine that?
That's just one of those.
Like the Clockwork Orange treatment.
Take their eyes open.
Yeah, right?
First time I did see that movie, I actually enjoyed it way more than I thought I would.
It's brilliant.
I mean, it's just a brilliant movie.
Seb didn't like it, but I said, honestly, I consider it the single most Shakespearean thing I'd ever seen outside of Shakespeare himself.
Everything, like the dialogue, just the way they talk.
I love it.
I enjoy it.
It was an alien universe that was perfectly believable and the stylized way it went down, the whole thing.
It's one of my favorites.
Malcolm McDowell is just perfect.
Yeah.
Yep.
Kick him in the yawbles if you got any yawbles.
Kicking the guy to the canal.
I just love that.
Right?
It's so good.
His own guy.
What movie is that?
Clockwork Orange.
I love that Geoff hates every good movie.
I hate sci-fi.
With a passion.
Is that technically a sci-fi movie?
It sounds like it.
It's futuristic.
Seb keeps making the joke that when we want to show something Geoff doesn't like to see, we'll give him the Clockwork Orange treatment.
So he keeps making that joke.
So that's probably why Geoff doesn't like the idea of the movie.
Has he had the treatment yet?
The Ludovico treatment?
Ludovico, yeah.
I'm cured!
Praise God!
He wasn't cured!
Garthik wasn't cured!
No, that movie's just fun.
So good.
Out for a bit of the old ultraviolence.
And what's so stinking about it?
All right.
Yeah.
90 seconds.
I'm on my own in 90 seconds.
This is the C segment.
Six minutes.
You want to do another read here?
I should definitely do a read and I have it.
I should do.
Could do food and then maybe do like one of the two.
Like Consumers of Israel in the E segment.
OK, because I got no guests till next hour, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
This hour is for the rest.
This half hour is me.
All right.
I'll do food again.
All right.
80 seconds.
And I got the phones open if you want to give out the number.
OK.
Yeah, because we got half an hour.
Let's chat.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, the third hour.
rent.
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I want to jump back into the Trump DeSantis thing.
All right.
I have been, I guess, entertained and, you know, kind of mildly annoyed by the idea that we can't have a primary and everyone just needs to go ahead and accept a coronation for Donald Trump.
And I opened the show by pointing out how I think he was maligned, cheated, and abused by the system, by the deep state, by everyone, from the start of his campaign, through his presidency, through today and going forward.
I think he deserved better.
We deserved better.
And in a perfect world, I think another term as president for him, he earned the right to finish what he never got a chance to do in his first term.
He did.
I believe that with my heart.
I also think that's not how we do things.
OK, and we're not going to change things just because of that.
We can't just say, well, OK, this is going to be the the Donald Trump exemption to our political primary process.
No.
What we need to do right now is not look at whether this is fair to the Donald.
We need to look at who can beat the likely Democrat nominee.
I think it's going to be Gavin Newsom.
Could be anyone.
We can hope it's Kamala Harris, in which case I think we could run, you know, a dead squirrel from the side of the road and probably prevail.
But since there's a good chance it's going to be a good politician like Newsom, and since a lot of things have changed since Trump was last in office, I think we need to look at the available slate of candidates, ignore almost all of them, and cut it down to Trump and DeSantis, and let them battle it out.
I think we can do that.
We're big kids.
Now I think Trump's still likely to win.
He is the definitive favorite.
But that doesn't mean we don't say, let's find out if enough people can get behind DeSantis.
Because I've said it before, the problem for Donald Trump is everyone has made up their mind about him.
No one is going to change their mind and say, oh, you know what?
I really didn't know Donald Trump.
Now I heard his stump speech again and I've changed my mind.
Ain't gonna happen.
So we've got established camps.
The question is, how many people does Trump bring to the table for our side?
How many people does he drive away from our side who are not going to vote for him?
I don't know.
But I think that's why we have a primary, is to find out how people react when they see someone who was essentially a protege.
Yes, Trump put DeSantis in power.
He would not have been as good as he was and as successful absent the nod from the Donald.
But that doesn't mean that he's now, you know, Donald's toy for the rest of the time.
All right.
Trump is legitimate in his own right.
So is DeSantis.
He's done very well.
And he's not a globalist.
He's not any of the crap people are saying, regardless of who backs him.
He is still an America first guy.
I believe that.
If you don't believe that.
Hey, it's America.
You make up your own mind.
But I want to see them battle it out.
I want to see them, you know, take shots at the dwarfs who will come and challenge both of them.
But I think we can do that safely.
And I'll tell you right now, I will back whoever gets the nomination with every fiber of my existence because we can't afford to lose.
Right?
Alright, we'll be back after the break.
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back after the break mic's on Ah!
Alright.
Well, this is flying by.
It always does.
I know.
It always does.
Wow, you moved the chair.
Huh?
Oh.
Oh, the guest chair.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like closer.
It's slowly.
It's like a horror movie.
It's like a gaslighting thing.
It's just gonna get slowly closer and closer until he's closer and reaches out and chokes me.
The chair.
Could be.
All right.
Three minutes.
Is today Wednesday?
Yes, it is.
Good, good, good.
Halfway point of the week.
So, we're going out to California for my wife's getting inducted into her high school Hall of Fame, right?
That's right.
Bakersfield, you said?
Yeah.
And I'm talking to Kurt last night.
He's like, have you checked the weather lately?
I'm like, what?
He's like, yeah, it's flooded.
I'm like, it's a desert.
What do you mean it's flooded?
He's like, it's flooded.
And then I looked and it literally, he's like, I'm not sure you're going to be able to get there.
Yeah, it's the most anti-California weather ever in like every region.
It's awesome.
And the best thing is, you know, they're always whining, oh, we have a drought, oh, climate change is killing us, we'll never have the snowpack we did.
And this year they've got the biggest snowpack in California that they've had since like 1862.
And they're worried it's going to flood through like June because you know what they didn't do?
They passed a bunch of money to go ahead and build bigger reservoirs and do everything like this, but they didn't spend it because they they're like, oh, well, we're never going to have rain again, you know, because Greta Thunberg said it's never going to rain again and we're all going to die.
So they didn't build the reservoirs.
So they're literally now that all this water is just gushing across the state of California, it's all going in the ocean.
They're not filling anything.
And so when we have, when the weather changes again, and there's not as much rain for a while, they're not gonna have all that water, because they didn't build the reservoirs, because they're idiots.
That's what started this damn mess is they wasted so much irrigation water to flush this endangered little microscopic species of fish out to the ocean, rather than let the farmers use it to grow our food!
And yeah, that's why when Trump went to California in 2016 and famously in his rally near Fresno, he said, oh, what's happening?
This isn't really a drought.
Everyone was like, oh, he's denying climate change!
But my friends and farmers in the area are like, no, he's correct in that a drought is a natural occurrence.
This is a man-made disaster.
So it's not a drought.
And I mean, you can go ahead and say it.
We got too many people and too much farming going on in one area that doesn't naturally have a ton of water.
You know, so I mean, there's plenty.
That's man-made too.
Yeah, one minute.
I remember going to school in Santa Barbara and, yeah, mentioning just kind of offhand at one point to other students.
I'm like, yeah, there's a drought.
They're like, wait, what drought?
There's no drought.
We're right by the ocean.
What are you talking about?
Right by the ocean?
I'm going to go ahead and weigh in as a climatologist.
You can't drink ocean water, and it's no better than Brondo for growing crops.
There was a tornado in LA.
See?
That's good news.
41 minutes ago.
Good.
God is paying attention.
More.
Hey, we got an LA guy.
First call I'm gonna take is from LA.
25 seconds.
Ask him about the tornado.
I'm gonna.
I'm going to open.
Thank you.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hanson.
Welcome back to America First Radio.
I'm sitting in for Dr. G, who is at Fort Bragg, which is awesome.
We're going to take some calls now, and I want to talk to Brent in L.A.
And Brent, I've got to ask, I heard during the break there was just a tornado in Los Angeles.
Did you hear about that?
Well, I heard about it, but I've just been dog paddling here waiting to talk to you.
Well, good.
Well, I'm glad to get you out of the shallow, and Kirk tries to teach people how to stay alive in those situations.
What you got?
Yeah, well, I wanted, like the despicable blackmailer, Stormy Democrat, who was excessively paid not to go public with a bald-faced lie that President Trump would ever have sex with a third-rate prostitute.
I'm even more disgusted with the duplicitous DeSantis, who hasn't the guts or morals to fight for truth, our Constitution, or American justice, even if he detests Trump.
It has never been about Trump.
It is about America.
It's about character, the Constitution, and leadership, which I think DeSantis now lacks.
Hey, Brent, I just want to compliment you on the quality of that rant.
Because it wasn't a question, and I don't mind.
I don't mind, you know, people say, oh, you didn't ask a question.
I don't care if you ask a question.
That was just great commentary.
You had alliteration.
You know, it was well done.
You had dramatic effect.
And it was good.
So I think you made the most important point about all of us.
It's not about Trump.
What they're doing it to Trump, and it's fair to say it's unfair to Trump, but you hit it right on the head when you say it's more important that they're doing it to an American citizen, an American president, and they're doing it to our system.
They're doing it to our ability to actually be able to enjoy the fruits of the freest country in the world.
So thank you for that.
Watch out for the tornado.
Keep dog paddling.
And thank you for that highly prepared and quality rant again.
Well, I want to jump now, let's jump to Mike in Detroit, Rock City.
What you got for me?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Well, whoever runs—the Democrats are going to use the same strategy.
They're going to dehumanize and demonize whoever runs like they are doing to half the country.
It's a strategy they've been using since 2016, where then they can say, well, there's no rules.
The unjustified means we don't have—these people are so horrible that the unjustified means we can do whatever we have to do to defeat these people.
And, you know, they've been doing that forever and it shows you that if you took the constituencies, that they have no agenda, I mean, that would be acceptable to the American people.
If you took all the constituencies out from under the umbrella of the Democratic Party and you marched them out one by one, the vast majority of Americans would reject them out of hand.
They'd recoil in horror.
I mean, that's the thing.
I think you're exactly right.
They run a negative campaign and they attack our people.
And like you said, there are no rules in their book.
But here's the thing.
And as my buddy Kurt says, I don't care what your rules are.
Let's just lay those on the table.
And if you want to pick the rules, you guys aren't going to like it when we start playing by the same set of rules.
Because I tell you what, we have not been.
You know, we've been letting them get away with murder, letting them do all this.
Have we been doing SWAT raids, you know, on people like they've done to people on the right for minor crimes, definitely non-violent crimes?
No, we have not.
Maybe it's time to do that.
Maybe we run up and have, you know, Steven Seagal drive an armored personnel carrier through some Democrat's house and wake his people up and scarf him up.
Hey, I love it.
I love Tennessee.
Coming up from the Atlanta area, this is a breath of sunshine for me.
It's fantastic.
Andy in Knoxville.
My parents used to live in Knoxville.
Great city.
Hey, I love it.
I love Tennessee.
Coming up from the Atlanta area, this is a breath of sunshine for me.
It's fantastic.
I got two things, Jim.
One is you keep saying it doesn't matter who's backing DeSantis with their money.
You know, Dr. Gorka's told us all that that Ken Griffin, who was the biggest bundler for Obama, he funded John McCain's campaign.
And when somebody gives you millions and millions of dollars, Jim, I figure that they're going to want something for it.
So I think it does matter.
And then the only other thing, and I'm asking because I want to ask a question, what you think What I think is the biggest character flaw in people is being an ingrate, showing ingratitude.
And I think DeSantis having himself saved, his political career saved by Trump, and then running against him right after that, I think it's The epitome of being an ingrate.
He ought to sit back and show a little respect and a little gratitude to President Trump for pulling him out of the fire.
OK, I think those are both excellent points, because number one, millions of dollars does change people's minds.
We'll find out, you know, if DeSantis at some point starts changing his policies in a way that that makes him no longer a fighter that he's been in Florida.
You know, I will have to revise my opinion.
And you're right, taking money makes that a legitimate question to ask about will DeSantis change.
Up till now, he's only gotten more savage about being a counter-woke fighter, you know, a member of the counter-woke counter-attack.
So I take that as a fair thing.
And on the ingrate side, I think that's legitimate too, but I think politics is just too frangible and dangerous a game.
Because if you look at it, DeSantis is never going to come off a better high than the crushing victory he won for re-election.
He just dominated.
And in politics, if you've got to wait four plus years past that, You may never be there again.
You may have a scandal in your administration.
You know, you may have any of the economy may turn down.
Something bad could happen.
Another pandemic.
And you never again have that opportunity.
So I think it's fair to say that he he owes something to Trump.
He does.
Trump helped him.
And I don't think he would have.
You know, it was a very tight race.
He would not have won unless Trump backed him.
And he does owe him for that.
I'm not sure in politics you can make the claim that you have to step aside then and miss what may be the only legit opportunity you get.
But we're going to find out.
I think he's definitely running.
And I think we're going to have a battle royale, a cage match with the Donald and I don't know.
We need a guy.
I can't call him the meatball because I like to say it.
I think he's a good guy.
But it's between those two.
You know, the other ones will be there as kind of croutons in the giant salad.
And we're going to find out how it goes.
I think either one of them is someone I would be very happy with as a president to replace Joe Biden.
Now, that being said, I would be happy, again, with that dead squirrel roadkill.
Sitting in the Oval Office and someone else pushing the buttons behind instead of Biden.
All right.
We'll be back after the break with more America First.
We're going to keep taking calls because that's kind of fun.
This is Jim Hansen sitting in for Dr. Gorka.
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The Warlords podcast is pinned there.
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We'll be back after the break.
Just because you like it?
Yeah.
All right.
Because Jonathan Davis, lead singer for Korn, he's from Bakersfield.
He went to the Crosstown High School from my wife.
She knew of him because he had a band that played around town.
But yeah, he's still got a recording studio at his house in Bakersfield.
Yeah.
Closest I got is that Steve Perry is actually from my hometown.
Wow.
Like, arguably the most famous person to come from my hometown.
Apparently Brian Head Welch is a Christian now.
Really?
That's fun.
I love that you mentioned Steven Seagal, of all people, by the way.
I recently did go down that rabbit hole.
I found that video, the most hated man in Hollywood.
Like, exposing all of his lies.
He's such a muppet.
In the time that Jean-Claude Van Damme challenged him to a fight and he ran away like a little bitch.
Because he knew he would lose.
Yeah, you know, it's kind of funny.
What's that show?
They've got a show about John Claude.
It's like a parody.
There was a movie he did that poked fun of himself, I think.
Yeah, but I think it's a series.
Maybe it's a movie.
It's like John Claude Van Johnson or something.
I don't know, where he makes fun of himself.
Yeah, it was a movie called JCVD, which I mean, that's pretty obvious why those initials were used.
No, I caught just like one episode of it somewhere on a streaming service.
And I was like, okay, that's funny for about 15 minutes.
Oh yeah, it is John Claude Van Johnson, you're right.
That's actually what it's called.
It's alright, so anybody who wants to see it, it's worth 15 minutes.
And then find something better to do.
Is it better than Steven Seagal, Law Man?
You know, because one's an actual attempted parody and the other is just a caricature of a decent human being, so it's kind of hard to say.
Oh, man.
All right, well.
Ooh, we got a full board of callers.
As we usually do, yep.
I need to do a quick read, though, don't I?
If you want, yeah.
Either Consumer or Israel, whichever.
Otherwise, I'm doing both of them next hour and a food.
And a food, yeah.
I would go ahead and knock it out now then.
30 seconds.
We can do that quick 30 Israel.
Okay.
30 Israel.
Yep.
All right.
30 is real.
Yep.
All right.
20 seconds. 20 seconds.
20 seconds.
It's Jim Hanson.
And I am a simple man, for those of you who can hear the music, in both the mocking and the figurative and literal.
Well hey, traveling to the Holy Land is truly one of the amazing trips.
Being able to walk in the same steps that Jesus did is just an overwhelming and powerful experience you will never forget.
Trust me, go visit Israel.
For more information, go to holyland.israel.travel.
Israel, exactly like nowhere else.
All right, well, we've been talking about so many things, and I always love when we get the American First audience involved, so I want to jump in and talk to Sam in Orlando.
What's the mouse up to down there?
Did DeSantis kick his butt?
No, DeSantis is going to be DeSantis, and that's fine.
He's a human being.
Everybody's an individual.
But let's go to something very important.
God and Satan.
Truman had to make, our great president, Harry Truman, had to make a decision on to rid Satan from the time period we were living in during that time.
I'm sorry, I'm driving.
I'm enraging.
So at the same time, you have Putin, you have China, you have all these other countries.
Take Trump, put him in the governor's office, DeSantis, goes as his VP, announced to the world that Trump is now back in power.
Biden is getting under arrest.
And Putin will pull out immediately.
China will get back in his ports.
Korea, you're not going to hear another thing out of them.
All right.
So what, your plan, you want a Trump DeSantis ticket?
I'll be honest.
I would take...
But I'm telling you what the world is.
I would take a Trump DeSantis ticket because I think that would be dynamite.
You know, I'm not sure the two of them want to do that.
I'm not sure either one of them wants to do it.
But I think for the country, that would be a fine one.
And I would go ahead and jump on that in a heartbeat.
Let's jump to Ron in Philly.
What you got, Ron?
Hello, am I on?
You are.
Oh, sorry about that.
I'm just curious as to where is Adam Schiff and the rest of his gang with the impeachment hearings?
We had an alleged quid pro quo on a phone call and they spent two years on that.
Is there no suspicion of any kind of quid pro quo?
No doubt.
That's hypocrisy.
That's what they do.
That's hypocrisy.
That's their stock and trade.
Where's the outrage?
I'm just curious.
The left is really showing their true colors when this all comes out.
Oh, no doubt.
That's hypocrisy.
That's what they do.
That's hypocrisy.
That's their stock in trade.
They can make something up to try and attack Donald Trump, as I point out in the opening.
Virtually every charge against him from Jump Street has been garbage.
And you're absolutely right.
The Bidens got paid.
It's the family business.
Selling access to Joe is the Biden family business.
And I hope that the House Oversight Committee is busy preparing their questions now that they've got that information, because they've got the receipts.
I'm Jim Hanson.
Time for you guys to get some news.
Then we'll be back after the break and do some more
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This is America First and I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
Hey, folks, good to be back doing America First Radio.
And I'm happy to be joined in studio by Horace Cooper, who is chairman of Project 21 at the National Center for Public Policy Research and who has a book that I can't wait to read coming out that's Put Y'all Back in Chains, How Biden's Policies Hurt Black America.
Now, obviously, you're referencing the quote from back when he was doing one of these, I will I will feel y'all's pain and speaking in a dialect.
But what's the book actually about?
So in 2012, while running for re-election with Barack Obama, what did Joe Biden say?
He went to a predominantly black group and said, if the Republicans win, they'll put y'all back in chains.
He told Charlemagne the God that if you don't vote for him, you ain't black.
Now, I have this book that's coming out on the 4th of July and its sole purpose is to remind people that the very progressive policies that this man pursues devastate black America.
Now they hurt the country.
But they devastate black America.
How can you say that?
I have been informed reliably my entire life that the left loves black people and they want to help them and that everything they do is designed to make the world better for black people.
You're telling me that their policies don't work?
So there's two facts here.
Their policies don't work.
But there's two facts here.
Progressives need 80% or better of the black vote in order to stay in power.
If they don't get nationwide 80% of the black vote, you see problems.
You can't win the presidential race.
You can't win the governor's race in New Jersey.
You can't even win a statewide race in Pennsylvania.
You can't win in Wisconsin.
You actually can't win statewide in Illinois.
You need 80% of the black vote.
And there has been a coordinated effort on the part of the left to scare Black America instead of coming up with an election policy program that might be interesting, might be useful, might be effective.
Nope!
We're just going to scare.
Now, second data point is this.
The high water point for Black America's vote for the left was 2008.
94% of black America went wild and crazy in 2008.
But here's something the mainstream media doesn't tell us.
In 2012, when Barack Obama was re-elected, he became the first president, not black president, first president re-elected in a hundred years who received fewer black votes the second time than the first.
George W. Bush received more black votes the second time than the first.
Richard Nixon received more black votes the second time than the first.
Ronald Reagan received more black votes the second time than the first.
I know that's obviously counterintuitive, but is it just that people recognized that Barack Obama's policies didn't actually help them, that it was all rhetoric?
Oh my God, that's beautiful.
And drilling down even more, and you'll find this in my book, since 2008, the percentage of black Americans voting for the left has dropped every year.
That's 10, that's 12, that's 14, that's 16, that's 18, that's 20, and also in 2022.
In fact, yes, our friends in the mainstream media don't tell you this.
In fact...
There has become a growing gender gap within black America.
I know where you're going there.
Black men are voting far more like white men than any other group in America.
And if in 2022, black men and black women had voted the same, i.e.
they voted like black men did, What you would have seen is about a 30 seat gain in the House of Representatives.
Instead of Fetterman, who doesn't know he's a senator, having gotten elected, you would have seen a Republican win that state.
What do you attribute that to?
Because if I was going to just not having dug into that data, I would say that men overall have seen a backlash.
Yes.
- Yes. - You know, there's been a change, and let's be clear.
Men had it way too good for way too long and cheated and abused the system.
So it was fair to have some pushback.
But I think, like it always does, the pendulum swang too far.
- Do you mean 150 years ago?
- Yeah. - Because in a growing, thriving economic society, everybody has to contribute or we all suffer.
People don't point this out about segregation.
Segregation created poverty for all the people in the areas where it happened.
Not just blacks, for all the people.
If you made dresses Or you ran a dry cleaning service.
Or you sold cars.
And if there was a policy, like when my grandfather was a kid, no you can't buy Cadillac, you can't buy this dress shop.
That dress shop owner suffered.
I need to sell 30 dresses this month.
But I can't sell any to blacks, so I'm only going to sell 22 dresses this month.
My great uncle, when he was told he couldn't buy a Cadillac in the state of Texas, he took a train up to Chicago, Illinois and went to a dealer there.
So if you're a dealer in Texas and you're not allowed to sell as many Cadillacs as there are buyers, guess what?
You don't prosper.
It's not just the people who are by their race who were denied.
Everyone is harmed.
And now economists are saying that one of the reasons that the South Has grown and thrived as much as it does and is in fact the growing engine of America is because it's a place where anybody can go and operate and have opportunity.
but during segregation it was the opposite of that and that's why houses in the south were on average smaller incomes in the south were on average smaller all across the board when the government limits your ability to let whoever brings talent to the table you all suffer so could we see then
Black men, and hopefully black women, seeing opportunity outside of Democrat-run cities.
Because that's part of it, is you've got this idea that you've got black communities there, large populations, but there's no opportunity because the policies of the Democrats have driven them down so far that they can't do anything.
Are they going to then, in the way that a lot of the rest of us have seen a tribalization, a left and right tribalization, not a black and white tribalization, can we at least hope that that is one aspect?
Because I would love to have productive black people of any kind in Republican errands.
We're increasingly seeing an America of have-nots.
And have nots.
We have these elites on the coast.
They're overwhelmingly white, but more importantly, they are elites who do not share the values of the nation at large.
And many black men are looking around and asking, why is it that you're getting to push through policies that take away my hope and my dreams?
Why can't I build my own house?
Why can't I subdivide this lot and put two houses here?
One for mom and dad and one for me and my family.
It's because leftist policies say, oh no, we're going to have to have a minimum of a three acre, four acre lot here because we don't want all of this to collapse.
Well, who can afford that?
High income people.
Our president, Mr. Biden, also wants you to either be an employee, most likely unionize, Or a person who receives a check.
There's a world of difference between those two.
God bless you!
You want to go join a union?
Go join a union.
You want to be an employee?
Go be an employee.
But if you want to start your own affair, you want the gig economy is disproportionately operated.
Look at the data.
I'm not making this up.
I'm telling you what the census data shows.
And it shows black men are overrepresented 6.9% of the economy and about 19% of the gig economy.
But what does the Biden administration want to do?
Crush the ability for you to be your own boss.
You need to be someone's employee, or boy, as the president would say.
We are talking with Horace Cooper, chairman of Project 21 at the National Center for Public Policy Research, and he's got a book coming out on the 4th of July, Put Y'all Back in Chains, How Biden's Policies Hurt Black America.
I'm Jim Hanson.
We're going to talk some more about how to make this, how to make the Republican Party more welcoming and America a better place.
Because I don't care what color you are.
I care whether you're a good person.
That's what really matters.
Back after the break.
And that's, I guess, I'm constantly hopeful because I don't think you can destroy what we have.
But we're close.
You're working on it.
Working to crush it.
But there's also a counterattack coming that I've, over the past five years, because I think my wife used to always talk about things have to get bad enough that it affects normal people.
Yes.
Because there's people like us who are obsessed with this and we do it every day.
Yeah, we follow it all the time.
Exactly.
You know, we're immersed in it and can't get out of it.
And we assume that everything we see affects normal people.
And they're just busy getting the kids to soccer practice.
They're not.
They maybe catch a headline here, this there, but they don't pay attention to that.
They know whether they're prosperous or not.
And that's why we always talk about, it's about economy.
And it always ends up at some level, do I feel more or less hopeful?
And money is the prime driver of that, and opportunity.
So will you guess what my first book was?
How Trump is Making Black America Great Again.
And it's all about pickup trucks in the driveway.
Okay.
It's all about new houses.
It's all about savings accounts.
I just let people... I go and look at the data.
If you don't like data, this is kind of boring.
But if you're interested in data, what you see is a whole different world than the one people have been telling us to see.
You know, I think there's a...
The idea that systemic racism stops black people from succeeding, I think is a lie.
It's, but it's been very effective.
Yes.
That's, that's the one to me.
Cause all they take all disparate outcome and they say, that's, these are the only reasons for it.
You can have systemic racism, white supremacy, pick one.
Yes.
You know, if you have a flavor of the day, but it overlooks the fact that there are a ton of black people who are doing well.
Why are they doing well?
Right, right.
And it also overlooks the fact that there are a ton of non-white people that struggle.
Exactly.
Why doesn't their struggle have value?
Why is their setback not something of consideration?
When I talk to groups, sometimes I go to these inner-city groups and I talk to them and I say, When the alarm rings at 6 a.m.
or 545, do you think white people go, oh my gosh, I'm so happy it's 545 a.m.
I know I was up till one, but I'm so happy to get out of the bed.
Everybody finds that a challenge.
And I think there's a, I guess I hope that there's an understanding now that the opportunity can still be there.
Even if it's hidden under that veneer where they say it's not there.
Because you can look over and see, well, I know that guy.
I went to school with him.
Yeah.
Why does he have a pickup truck in his driveway?
Yeah, exactly.
And my life sucks.
What's really insidious is every group, every person has struggles and has setbacks.
What the left has done very good is say, when you're having that, I can't explain why.
And an amazing thing my mother, God rest her soul, did when I was a kid.
She said, if you end up having a problem, it's your fault.
Look in the mirror.
Don't come calling me and saying this and this and this.
It's your fault.
And guess what?
Sometimes it really wasn't.
But because I didn't...
But because I didn't know what to do.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
Hey folks, Jim Hansen.
I am sitting in for Seb.
I want you to go to Twitter, at Jim Hansen DC.
Check out the Warlords podcast, the premiere episode, because it's money.
But I want to get back to talking about money and prosperity and security and how a life can be improved in this country.
What makes it better?
Is it the government or is it you?
And we're talking with Horace Cooper, who is chairman of Project 21 at the National Center for Public Policy Research.
I think we talked in the in the break here about how systemic racism gets blamed for whether or not black people succeed in this instance.
And I think it is overshadowed in a lot of cases, the fact that in far too many cases, it's people responsible for their own stuff.
Now, I'm not saying that systemic racism doesn't exist.
I'm saying that the idea that it's responsible for all disparate outcomes for the black community is, as we discussed, a lie.
But what do we do about that?
How do we overcome that belief and get people to look at opportunity rather than whether they're being held down?
Alright, so first thing I do want to push back a little bit.
Okay.
The idea that a few people that are so ashamed of their thoughts they have to hide behind a white cloak that's got a cone head on it are in some way affecting the outcomes of millions of other people who don't share their ideas and values is ridiculous.
The Ku Klux Klan does not decide who gets admitted to community college, to undergraduate state schools, or even to our elite institutions.
The Ku Klux Klan doesn't run Coca-Cola.
It doesn't run IBM.
It doesn't run Facebook.
The Klan and the corny people behind them have no impact.
If you want to go and work at Facebook, or if you want to go and work for Microsoft, and you're nine years old, let me tell you what I recommend that you do.
Math!
Science.
Learn to code.
You, absolutely!
And you control that.
Let me tell you something.
If you're the smartest and you're the brightest, you look around.
The folks who really are interested in acquiring talent, they're looking for you.
So, I want to say this.
Merely because there are some people in America or on this planet who don't like me or who don't like you, that's no excuse for what ended up happening with your life.
Personal agency is what are you doing?
What are your mom and dad doing?
It is clearly the case that a mother and a father who are paired for a decade or longer end up producing and creating wealth.
And the children that are formed when living in that have a huge advantage over those that don't.
What the Klan or what someone who doesn't know you and doesn't think you're the smartest or the brightest think about you is absolutely irrelevant.
Personal agency.
In America, this is the place, whether you're black, white, brown, whatever you might be, If you have an idea of something you want to accomplish, America is the place to do that.
And to be born black in America is to be the biggest lottery winner for a black person anywhere on planet Earth.
There's pretty much nobody Emigrating away.
Right!
To say, no, I really need to do this elsewhere.
Okay.
So I think your point though, especially, you know, the number one indicator for childhood success is a two parent household.
Yes.
And that's a, that's a pathology in the black community.
And I think that's a deep hard issue.
Government policy that pays people, rewards people.
Now the abortion, one of the things that I point out in my earlier book, how Trump is making black America great again, his pro-life stance.
if abortion on demand, which disproportionately affects blacks.
People do not realize this.
Black Americans are only 13% of the population.
They're more than 40% of those who are aborted.
If black America had its population devastated in a way that racist Margaret Sanger could only dream of.
Founder of Planned Parenthood was basically a believer that you wanted to weed out undesirables and thought that poor people and in that case, since there were a lot of poor black people, black people needed abortions to do that.
Horrifying.
Black Americans would not today be the number three largest ethnic group in America.
Black Americans would be a number two.
That would come with the political clout.
Now, there's an example I want to give you.
Black Americans are not number two in the state of California.
They're not number three in the state of California.
Hispanics are number two.
Asians are number three.
Black Americans are number four.
There is talk about what the political possibilities in California are.
Well let me tell you what, when you're in the number four ethnic group, you move to the back of the political bus.
That's coming for Black America nationwide.
The progressive policies of unlimited immigration, of job destruction, and wild payments that give you the distraction.
Don't pick up new skills.
Don't become self-sufficient.
Have destroyed black America in the state of California.
That's coming nationwide.
They want clients for the welfare state or whatever flavor of that you want to be.
They need people to be dependent on that.
So what's your, you know, we got two minutes.
What's your recipe for success if the Republicans want to appeal to those people who want that prosperity and security?
So I'm not interested in partisanship, I'm interested in America.
And in America, this is a place of great opportunity.
During Donald Trump's presidency, more blacks got new pickup trucks in their front yard or their driveway.
More blacks got their nephew, their son, their grandson off the couch and into their own apartments.
More black Americans went on their first vacation in a 10-year period.
Under Obama, we invented staycation.
I'm broke, I got some time off, but I can't go anywhere.
More black Americans see the prosperity that just happened, and it is accelerating along with the large number of black Americans who are on social media saying many of the same things that I am saying.
We're going to get that number really quick, under 80%.
In the next four to six years, that number is just going to keep dropping.
And when it reaches 65, it will be devastating for the progressives.
When only 65% of black America is voting for them, they can't get elected dog catcher.
And they should not get elected dog catcher because even the dogs suffer under that regime.
You can't name a Democrat-run city that any person would choose to live in if they didn't need to.
Horace Cooper, Project 21 chairman, National Center for Public Policy Research, look for his book coming out July 4th, Put Y'all Back in Chains, a Joe Biden quote, How Biden's Policies Hurt Black Americans.
And let's find people who have policies that help.
Black Americans and all Americans.
Pleasure talking with you, Howard Horst.
Thank you.
Back after the break.
I saw you for a good, like a cartoon double take, like for a good five seconds.
I saw it on the thing, I'm like, that's not a, that's a fucking real, is it, that's, but it's not, it's a dummy, right?
It's rubber, yeah, it's rubber.
Yeah, yeah, that's why I had to look at it twice, I was like, that's good, but no, I used to have one like that, that we used on Waterborne mission training.
Yeah.
Because you didn't want to get your real gun nasty.
Oh, that's funny.
Alright, you got me, you did.
I'm kind of impressed you went for two hours just not noticing.
Gradually Seb will add new things to the set over time.
I'm real good at missing the obvious because I've got my mind focused on certain things and everything else is blanked out.
Well, there's just so much stuff in the studio on Seb's side already.
That's true.
When he adds that Space Marine gun to your right, people don't even see it for a while.
What's the Nikon doing?
Yukon Cornelius is on one of the top shelves for some reason.
From Rudolph?
Yeah, Yukon Cornelius.
He's very top right shelf, Alex, in the wide shot.
I've had a tough year.
I've got...
The past four or five years I've had a giant, inflatable, abominable snowman that I put on the roof of my house.
I've got flat roofs because we've got like a modern house.
So my garage has like a flat spot and I put him up there and I had like the eight-foot version and then windstorm shredded him.
Oh, no!
And then I bought, I thought I bought a replacement, but I ended up getting the 12-foot version.
Oh, good God!
I know, dude!
It was outrageous!
And then I got him up there, right?
And I had to fill a bunch of sandbags to hold it down, because I can't stake him in the ground, because he's on my roof, right?
And it's like, you know, a flat roof.
So I got all those things on there.
I got him tied to trees and all this shit.
And then we have a windstorm, and it wiped him out.
So now I don't know what I'm going to do.
Wind seems to be a problem in this area.
Apparently it's not good for my holiday designs.
Because I've got for Halloween, I've got two giant, like a Tyrannosaurus Rex skeleton.
Ha!
Nice.
Yeah, and it's awesome.
It's got a little baby coming out of an egg and it's like a... Oh, that's good.
I think he's about eight feet, right?
A giant T-Rex.
And then what I did is I took Motorcycle tail lights.
One minute.
And I embedded those in his eye sockets.
Oh, that's good.
Right?
So he's got actual laser eyes and he has.
It's awesome.
I'll show you a picture.
All you need is like a sound box to play like the roar from Jurassic Park.
There is.
No, there is.
He's got a sound box and he roars.
That's great.
I know.
People in my neighborhood wait for that because the kids love it.
You know, they love the dinosaurs.
This is C. Yeah, you want to do one more read here?
I will do the... Final food, or you could do consumers and save food for later.
Yeah, we'll do consumers.
And then I'm going to talk to the phone people.
The people.
Yep, 30 seconds.
The muricans.
America. America.
America. America. America.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
Hey folks, glad to be back.
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Hey, listen, I want to get back to Merca, the American First audience, and let's talk to Ricky in California.
What you got for me, buddy?
Hi there.
You know, I wanted to talk a little bit about George Soros and his influence in America and just get people to understand it's not just politics, it's business as well.
Back in 2004, there was a real estate development in Chicago that needed money to complete the building.
And the developer borrowed $160 million from George Soros.
And that developer was Donald Trump.
And that development was Trump Tower of Chicago.
And if you don't believe me, you can look it up.
Just do a Google search on Trump Tower of Chicago and George Soros, and you'll see that he's got $160 million in Trump Tower.
But do you think somehow that changed Trump's policies in some way?
Do you think he became a globalist?
I think he's got a pretty solid record as being anti-globalist.
Money is one thing.
Money is fungible, but I don't think that changed Trump's policies.
No.
What I think it exposes is that all this George Soros talk that he's talking right now is just another grift because he's cavorting with another billionaire when he needs money.
What he's all about is what makes money for Donald Trump.
And his agreement was Well, okay, alright, that's fine.
I get it, I get it.
The details don't interest me as much as that, but I think it's a fair point to say, and we talked about it with DeSantis, you take money from people, you have some sort of relationship, and you are influenced by it, and I think that's fair.
Alright, I want to hear from Dave in Columbus.
Hey, thank you so much for taking my call.
My gosh, you guys are better during the breaks than you are live.
That's the way it should be.
I'm like Steven Seagal.
I'm like, wow, dinosaurs?
So anyway, here's what we got.
I love the fact that you're basically setting up the idea that instead of being basically just simply crowned, that President Trump wouldn't get to show his chops in debating or having a pretty good little fight with Ron DeSantis, if it comes down to that, which I'm guessing it will.
I mean, that's how Trump demonstrated who he was.
And anybody who's scared that that's going to steal Trump's thunder probably wasn't paying attention for a long time.
That's a great point because, I mean, during the debates in 2016, that's where he shined.
That was where he—and I think Kurt also says this a lot—he needs to work on his chops.
There's new things to argue about.
If you're just talking, if you're just preaching to the converted at rallies, then you're not working on what works, what doesn't work, where are my weak spots.
Yeah, and the concern I've got, it's kind of like, is the electoral college.
You guys just had a great segment on black America and blacks voting.
I teach, well, I teach folks who are not currently able to walk the earth freely, let's put it that way, they're behind bars, and I've taught inner city.
I've been a white guy most of my life, but I've worked in pretty much almost all black environments.
And the unfortunate thing is that if you're in county X, You could vote any way you want to, but if you've got a corrupt county like, say, Allegheny County in Pennsylvania or Philadelphia County or Franklin County here in Ohio, It doesn't matter how you vote because the person counting the vote makes it go the way they want.
Unfortunately, Jim, I hate to cut you off, but we got commercials coming.
So I think you're making some good points about where we got to work and what we got to do and appreciate your call.
I am Jim Hanson.
We will be back after the break with more America first radio.
This is the D segment.
We've got two segments left.
And again, one more food to do, and then that's it for reads.
And this is a nice long one, so I should do the food now.
Yep, alrighty.
I'll do the food, and then I'm clear.
I never use Jeff's clip, though.
He works so hard.
I know he slaves to do those.
It takes hours to produce one clip.
Very long, 28 seconds.
No, but I want that because... Yep, I have it.
I had a take on that that I meant to say last night and I forgot.
Anyhow, whatever.
Why would you even say that though?
Even if that's what you believe?
Because they're backing Zelensky.
They want to derail any chance at peace, because they're going to go all the way.
They think they can push Putin out of Donbass.
And I think if they can, it's at a price none of us want to pay.
What is the motivation?
Is it to get Putin?
Is it for money for their military-industrial complex buddies?
Well, there's an element, I mean, you know, it's easy to say it's a military-industrial complex, and they do have a lot of clout.
And, God, can you imagine?
I wish I had just bought Raytheon stock at the start of this, because I never thought it was going to go this long.
You know, I would have.
I would have gone heavy on Raytheon stock, because just the resupply, you know, of what they're putting orders in for now is stunning.
But I think, again, I think it's this twisted idea that by punching back at Putin, They're actually getting out their aggression against Trump.
Yeah.
That's a pathology.
You know, he is.
You really think it's that simple?
I think that's part of it.
I think that's too much of a part of it.
And I think obviously, you know, there's there's other reasons.
But why are all these people who've never backed a war for any reason?
You know, all of a sudden, immediately becoming warmongering, kill them all, let God sort them out, you know?
That's the beautiful thing.
We just had the 20th anniversary of the start of the Iraq war, and look how the sides have completely flipped 20 years later.
I love it.
And the difference is, our side actually learned a lesson.
We're like, holy crap!
That was stupid!
We got lied to.
We got cheated.
We tried a bunch of things that didn't work.
We tried nation building in places that weren't ever nations.
Wasted trillions.
And basically blew all of our global power by showing that we were a paper tiger.
Got crushed politically for it, too.
A friend of mine said that realistically, going into the 2000s, even post 9-11, the right was on the right track.
Wow.
Wow.
I've never really thought about it that way.
and everything, you know, Christian culture and everything.
And then the Iraq war just completely ruined that.
Because what is a greater countercultural cause than being anti-war?
Wow.
That – I've never really thought about it that way.
That is a horrifying thing that I'm going to have to now burn some brain cycles on because I think there's a very deep, deep truth in there somewhere.
Like, we could have gone away with the Afghanistan war.
I mean, post 9-11, the hunt for Bin Laden, but we're wrong.
Yeah, get out.
Okay, Afghanistan was easy.
You go in, you topple the Taliban, right?
You hit whatever villages and flatten them that were the most supportive of them.
And then you carpet bomb the rest of the country with leaflets that say, don't fucking make us come back.
And you're gone.
Yep.
That's it.
But then a rock, and effortlessly, quickly, too, it was exposed.
One, it was built on a lie, the whole WMD thing.
And two, very quickly, it was obvious.
What's this got to do with 9-11 again?
Oh, nothing.
Oh, sorry.
My mistake.
It was Bush taking care of what should have happened before.
With his daddy, yeah.
I hate when they're right.
You know?
It's painful, but the left is right.
Alright, I'm doing food.
Yeah, final food here.
10 seconds.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
It is Jim Hansen, and I am happy to be sitting in for Seb.
He is down at Fort Bragg training the special operators.
Listen, I want to encourage you to go to Twitter.
Whether you normally go there or not, I don't care.
It's a silly place, I understand.
But right now if you go to at jim hansen dc the pinned tweet at the top of that is the premiere episode of what is now the preeminent podcast on the planet the warlords with myself and kurt schlichter and this is something you're going to want to get in early on because then you can tell people i was there when they were talking about caddyshack I mean, seriously, that was way old school, Warlords, when we are famous beyond our beat.
So enjoy that, because there's going to be more, and we promise it will be wicked pithy and fun.
But now let's talk about something that is helpful.
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Alright, we've talked about a lot of stuff, but I want to get back to the war in Ukraine, and more importantly, America as a warring nation.
Because I think we've been sucking at it, is the politest way I could say anything about it.
World War II, we have not been anywhere near as good at deciding what wars to fight and fighting and prosecuting them in a successful manner as the preeminent nation on this planet demands.
We have failed.
And I think our most our recent batch of wars and the one we are essentially conducting via proxy in Ukraine is just another example of wars where we don't have a strategic defined goal and we don't have a plan to achieve that goal and we don't prosecute it in a way that's likely to achieve any goal that we can be happy about.
So I want to play right now a clip from the idiot spokesman for the DoD John Kirby.
So if they call for a ceasefire, you believe Ukraine should and will reject that?
Yes, we do.
And we would reject it as well.
We think that that's an unacceptable outcome right now.
Obviously, we want the fighting to stop.
We want the war to be over.
And as I said, it could end today if Mr. Putin would do the right thing.
But to call for a ceasefire right now basically ratifies what they've been able to grab inside Ukraine and gives them time and space to prepare for future operations.
And that's just not going to be acceptable.
Shut up.
All right, here's the problem.
Right now, we essentially, and I mentioned this before, we've got World War I. We've got trench warfare.
They're dug in trenches right now.
And the areas that Putin occupies are the Russian-speaking ones right on his border that he's been working to take and that have more or less had some affinity to Russia.
He's already had Crimea since 2014 and historically on and off.
Let's not even go through all the changes to the map in that area.
This is not a contiguous nation that's existed since the dawn of time.
The maps in Europe have been redrawn so many times that cartography was a main occupation forever.
But what we've got is a situation where the people prosecuting this war in the United States, and yes, it is our war, don't know what they want or have decided that defeating Putin in a way that they want to is a goal they're willing to risk World War III to achieve, and I'm stunned by that.
I want Putin to lose, but I think he already has, and that's where I disagree.
And Seb and I aren't on the exact same page on this.
I think Putin lost when he lost his expeditionary army in the early days of this war.
He invaded on too many axes, he did a bunch of things wrong, and all his stuff got blown up, and now he's got no ability to kill anybody in the rest of Europe.
But he's not going to go out a punk and lose to a guy who used to do music videos in stiletto heels.
Zelinsky, why, why, why, why, why, why, why?
He's not going to do it.
Putin's not going to be that guy.
You have to take that into account.
All right.
We can want to defeat Putin.
We can want the value you get from defeating Putin.
But if you defeat Putin or get him close to the point where he thinks defeat is imminent, he's not going to be that footnote in the Russian history books.
Take that legitimately into account.
And we're not capable of it.
We're fighting a war.
We talked a little bit about this in the break.
We're fighting a war where Putin's a proxy for Trump for too many people.
All these people who were never going to war is the worst thing the Iraq war is bad all these other wars were bad are now the ones with Ukrainian flags who are willing to have all of our blood and treasure and everything pushed well maybe not our blood yet but they would to go ahead and support this Ill-guided idea that you can defeat Vlad Putin and actually take him out.
It ain't gonna happen.
Now, we're gonna find out, unfortunately, because I don't think the Biden administration is capable of learning from mistakes like we who were in favor of the Iraq war, and I was, Learn from that mistake, like we who thought Afghanistan should have been over in 30 days, with a good topple the Taliban, bomb the places who were supporting the Taliban, and then carpet bomb the rest of that country with leaflets saying, don't make us come back again, you won't like it.
We didn't figure that out.
And we stayed for 20 years.
We still got troops in Iraq.
20 years later, what are we doing?
We need to figure out what U.S.
strategic interests are and not fight wars that don't serve them.
The war in Ukraine does not.
We got one more segment of America First Radio.
We'll be back after the break and wrap this all up.
Can you hear me?
Yes, we can.
So, there's a Chiron up on Fox that says Blockbuster comeback?
Bankrupt video rental chain teases return?
No.
What do you do if you're Blockbuster?
Do you stream?
Are they just going to be a streaming site?
Is that it?
They're going to be?
I mean, why not?
I mean, it's never going to be the same, though, man.
All right, but now hold on, all right?
If Blockbuster could somehow have the same array of movies as a streaming service that they had for rental, I'd do it out of nostalgia, and because screw Netflix and screw everybody else, you know?
It's not like... I hate every... I hate... I pay for Netflix, right?
Because there's a few good shows I want to watch.
Sure, yeah.
I mean, isn't that already kind of... The streaming bubble's already kind of burst at this point.
Like, I think it's... For nostalgia purposes, sure, but like, would it last long-term?
It would seem like a nice surge right at the beginning, I think, but...
Well, the question is, are they going to go?
If they go at Netflix, and if they've got people behind them to back them and go against Netflix and do all that, I'd back them on nostalgia and of hatred for the other services.
Yeah, I'm not against the idea.
It is, yeah.
Blockbuster, man.
That's funny.
That is so nostalgia.
I miss Blockbuster so much.
That was kind of like the more retro version.
You know, the shopping cart dilemma, right?
Like, are you like a psychopath who will not return the shopping cart when you're done with it?
Or will you be a good citizen and return it by getting a reward?
Blockbuster was the same way.
Are you a psychopath who will not rewind the tape before you return it?
You had to rewind.
It made you a decent human being.
It really did.
See, and we've lost that.
People would not do that now.
Oh yeah.
All the tapes would be unrewound.
There is that one blockbuster that's left, and I think Oregon?
Or is it Washington State?
I can't remember people talking about it.
The last blockbuster.
God.
All of this is making me so stout.
Everything.
The old school McDonald's, the way McDonald's used to look with the red arch roof.
And now there's these grey ugly block buildings.
I know.
They look just completely HOA compliant.
God.
Never forget what they took from us.
90s aesthetics, man.
You know what I didn't get?
I didn't get a damn shamrock shake.
That's a little sad.
The things that really ruined my day.
The original, like, soda cups with, like, the white cups with, like, the kind of bluish streak, the design.
How do I describe it?
Was it a McDonald's cup or was that just, like, a general, like... How do I describe it?
It was the symbol of the 90s.
I think Eric's on drugs.
- Hey, you talk like someone that's dying. - Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
Hey folks, we're going to wrap it up.
This is the final segment.
And I feel like I should do some Green Beret stuff just in honor of Seb, you know, being down at Fort Bragg.
But instead, I'm going to talk about the 80s and the 90s.
Because I am, and I have noted this before on this show, I am the lead dog of Generation X. The greatest, the last greatest generation.
Because we are the last generation that actually realized the American dream of a life better than our parents, which it always was.
You were supposed to work hard and delay gratification and do those things, and your children would grow up to have a better life than you.
And Generation X is the last one that actually lived that.
Now, we also lived, like, Party animals.
I mean, the 80s, for those of you who were not alive, I was.
And the movies, they're real.
I was there.
It was that good.
It was that fun.
The music was great.
We partied like rock stars.
We did everything.
You know, I don't know why they call it Generation X. I never really have paid attention.
But the X Games, which came out of it, are all the, you know, this wicked, crazy skateboarding and bike flips and snowboarding.
We invented skydiving craziness and wingsuits and rock climbing without ropes.
I did all that stuff.
It was fun.
And I think there's something, and it's part of the reason Kurt and I started the Warlords podcast, is we feel bad.
You know, I don't feel bad because I got mine.
All right.
I lived.
I've got nothing but stories to tell for the rest of my life.
And somehow I lived.
I'm surprised.
Because when I tell the stories, like one, I was at Fort Huachuca.
19 years old, me and my buddy climbed a 200-foot waterfall.
It was partly dry.
It's Arizona, Fort Huachuca, so there was a trickle coming down the middle.
200-foot sheer rock face, no ropes, and we each had a Boda bag full of Boone's Farm Tickle Pink wine that we drank on the way up.
All right, that's the 80s right there.
You want to know why Gen X rocks?
It's because we free climbed waterfalls with Boda bags full of Tickle Pick.
Nobody does that anymore.
These people, you know, they do, they have a granola bar.
They don't know how to party.
So we need, and this is what we're providing as a service, and why I'm asking you one last time to go to at Jim Hansen DC.
And find the pinned tweet there.
Watch the podcast, The Warlords.
It's a view of things to come and how we're going to help bring back the greatness that I remember and that I want all of you to again experience, and more importantly, to pass on to the coming generations.
Because we don't have to go out like punks.
We don't have to be fundamentally transformed into non-player characters in a woke game that sucks.
I'm not going to do that.
All right?
We're going to win.
We're going to be the team that wins on Call of Duty or whatever your shooter game of choice is.
We dominate.
So it's been fun.
I always enjoy getting to come here and air my issues with this audience.
I love the America First audience.
You people are fantastic.
I look forward to doing it again.
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